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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V4, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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post Jan 23 2011, 03:47 AM, updated 15y ago

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V4. Please continue your discussion here.

V1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1642831
V2 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1663020
V3 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1693310

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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Dec 1 2010, 10:06 AM)
Nobody answer? Nevermind, I will use my experiences and tell you. So if anyone would like to add further details or do some corrections, please do so  laugh.gif

Firstly, check the outlook for both Body and Lens, if you're happy with it, then proceed to the next stepsssss.  cool2.gif

For the Body:
1. check the Shutter Count, the lower the SC, the better it is, just like a car's milage. Google has a clearer explanation.
2. if the Body has motor and top LCD, make sure they both work well, it's sux if the motor doesn't work, it's sux if the top LCD can't light up.
3. test the Body with various memory cards, you don't want to have error while shooting, don't you? (sometimes it's the memory card that give trouble)
4. test Continuous shoot, will the shutter jam?  rclxub.gif
5. basically you'll have to test everything, every single functions and settings of the body, like ISO, pop-up flash, the condition of hot shoe, the buttons etc etc

As for the lens:
1. it's important that the rubber is still firm.
2. make sure it works on more than ONE Bodies.
3. play with aperture, the zoom if it has, play with it like a toy.
4. if the lens got dust and fungus inside, you can send it for cleaning.
5. if the contact points are dirty, gently use eraser to clean it.
6. if the lens is AF-S, make sure the motor inside is silent while auto focusing, no loud squeaky sound.

what else?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Remember, these are based on my personal experiences, correct me if I'm wrong  notworthy.gif
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Ken Rockwell facts !

Ken Rockwell is the Chuck Norris of photography

Ken Rockwell's camera has similar settings to ours, except his are: P[erfect] Av[Awesome Priority Tv[Totally Awesome Priority] M[ajestic]

Ken Rockwell doesn't color correct. He adjusts your world to match his.

Sure, Ken Rockwell deletes a bad photo or two. Other people call these Pulitzers.

Ken Rockwell doesn't adjust his DOF, he changes space-time.

Circle of confusion? You might be confused. Ken Rockwell never is.

Ken Rockwell doesn't wait for the light when he shoots a landscape - the light waits for him.

Ken Rockwell never flips his camera in portrait position, he flips the earth

Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one.

Ken Rockwell is the only person to have photographed Jesus; unfortunately he ran out of film and had to use a piece of cloth instead.

When Ken Rockwell brackets a shot, the three versions of the photo win first place in three different categories

Before Nikon or Canon releases a camera they go to Ken and they ask him to test them, the best cameras get a Nikon sticker and the less good get a Canon sticker

Once Ken tested a camera, he said I cant even put Canon on this one,thats how Pentax was born

Rockwellian policy isn't doublethink - Ken doesn't even need to think once

Ken Rockwell doesn't use flash ever since the Nagasaki incident.

Only Ken Rockwell can take pictures of Ken Rockwell; everyone else would just get their film overexposed by the light of his genius

Ken Rockwell wanted something to distract the lesser photographers, and lo, there were ducks.

Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you

Ken Rockwell's nudes were fully clothed at the time of exposure

Ken Rockwell once designed a zoom lens. You know it as the Hubble SpaceTelescope.

When Ken unpacks his CF card, it already has masterpieces on it.

Rockwell portraits are so lifelike, they have to pay taxes

On Ken Rockwell's desktop, the Trash Icon is really a link to National Geographic Magazine

Ken Rockwell spells point-and-shoot "h-a-s-s-e-l-b-l-a-d"

When Ken Rockwell went digital, National Geographic nearly went out of business because he was no longer phyically discarding photos

For every 10 shots that Ken Rockwell takes, 11 are keepers.

Ken Rockwell's digital files consist of 0's, 1's AND 2's.

Ken Rockwell never focus, everything moves into his DoF

Ken Rockwell's shots are so perfect, Adobe redesigned photoshop for him: all it consists of is a close button.

The term tripod was coined after his silhouette

Ken Rockwell never produces awful work, only work too advanced for the viewer

A certain braind of hig-end cameras was named after people noticed the quality was a lot "like a" rockwell

Ken Rockwell isn't the Chuck Norris of photography; Chuck Norris is the Ken Rockwell of martial arts.

Ken Rockwell never starts, he continues
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D700 replacement? what is it? details? LOL
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QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 22 2011, 10:36 PM)
Lucky me then i guess as i still could get the same price as in penang road... but i prefer to buy in shopping mall cause everytime when you pay a visit to the mall you still can stop by there for just some poisons hands.gif
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Nothing beats Penang road fellow. You can poison any lens you want, any tripod, any filters laugh.gif
Basically, ANYTHING tongue.gif

QUOTE(razuryza @ Jan 23 2011, 03:50 AM)
D700 replacement? what is it? details? LOL
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post Jan 23 2011, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Jan 23 2011, 02:15 AM)
Good day!
Currently im searching new d3100 + kit for my younger sister & sb-700 for myself.
The best price I found:
D3100+kit with free gift = RM 1990
SB700 = RM 1070

so far any other places can offer better price?
Highly appreciate your input.

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Nikon is better tham canon..wohooo!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif ..then why Canon thread oledi v35 n Nikon thread still v4..still a long journey meh.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 23 2011, 09:16 AM)
Nikon is better tham canon..wohooo!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif ..then why Canon thread oledi v35 n Nikon thread still v4..still a long journey meh.. sweat.gif
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No choice, Nikon thread was combined just recently. If actually start counting with all the smaller threads around also around there tongue.gif.
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@Kent Thanks you for sharing the pictures

@Bart , you can get sb-700 at 980-990 price , that what i get

KTCY Penang Road at where? Penang which part? Lebuh Chulia there izzit?I wish to pay a visit when i back

Sorry and thank for guide me

Someone can guide me in choosing len for documentary photography?
On DX
QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 23 2011, 09:16 AM)
Nikon is better tham canon..wohooo!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif ..then why Canon thread oledi v35 n Nikon thread still v4..still a long journey meh.. sweat.gif
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Why you say Nikon is better than Canon , you cant say like this.

Although i love Nikon and will never change to Canon , but i wont say Nikon is better than Canon. Canon is a good brand ! thumbup.gif

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jz a hoya hd uv from heng's shop...
last time went for whole kl oso can't find...
luckily arrive adi...
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 23 2011, 09:43 )

Someone can guide me in choosing len for documentary photography?
On DX
Why you say Nikon is better than Canon , you cant say like this.
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Please, I need guide as well.

Currently I got 2 lenses on my list:
1. Tokina 1224 f4
2. Sigma 1020 F4-5.6

What do you guys think about this 2 lenses or any better suggestion?
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Jan 23 2011, 10:01 AM)
jz a hoya hd uv from heng's shop...
last time went for whole kl oso can't find...
luckily arrive adi...
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what size?
i just bought 52mm one , 160 ><" dunno exp or not

77mm 290

QUOTE(alvinX @ Jan 23 2011, 10:10 AM)
Please, I need guide as well.

Currently I got 2 lenses on my list:
1. Tokina 1224 f4
2. Sigma 1020 F4-5.6

What do you guys think about this 2 lenses or any better suggestion?
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More to people documentary , thanks for guiding me and alvin

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77mm about RM250.
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Has anyone been to the Nikon shop at Alamanda Putrajaya? Anything special about it.

The one at Times Square is great, the guys there let us hold and play with the cameras if you request for it.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 23 2011, 10:13 AM)
77mm about RM250.
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That is cheap ! lucky i just ask the price but bought the 52mm

at Melaka offer this price?

B+W XS-PRO and Hoya HD which one better? or i cannot compare like that?
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i get it @ Rm250...
of coz some nego lar...
heard dat B+W XS-PRO is d best...
while some said hoya hd more value for money...
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 23 2011, 10:16 AM)
That is cheap ! lucky i just ask the price but bought the 52mm

at Melaka offer this price?

B+W XS-PRO and Hoya HD which one better? or i cannot compare like that?
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I have both, I prefer the HD though cause easier to clean. Optics wise I see no differences for me.
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V4? fuhhh...

btw, did we can ask the cost of repair first? if its over my budget, can i refuse to repair? thinking to go to BTS.. is BTS nikon centre open on sunday?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 23 2011, 10:44 AM)
I have both, I prefer the HD though cause easier to clean. Optics wise I see no differences for me.
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Ya HD easier to clean . If optics no differences , i prefer Hoya HD

QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Jan 23 2011, 10:23 AM)
i get it @ Rm250...
of coz some nego lar...
heard dat B+W XS-PRO is d best...
while some said hoya hd more value for money...
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I prefer Hoya-HD

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Yet another cheongsam portrait,  laugh.gif CNY coming ma~

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Exposure  0.001 sec (1/2000)
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Focal Length  85 mm
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QUOTE(faareast @ Jan 23 2011, 11:05 AM)
V4? fuhhh...

btw, did we can ask the cost of repair first? if its over my budget, can i refuse to repair? thinking to go to BTS.. is BTS nikon centre open on sunday?
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Sure can ask the cost of repair. Just like you ask the price of an item before buy it it mah.

Operation Hours: 10am to 10pm (Monday to Sunday including Public Holidays) for BTS Nikon Centre



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D3100+kit = RM 1900
SB 700 = RM 1000

do you think it good price? planning to buy b4 CNY
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QUOTE(faareast @ Jan 23 2011, 11:05 AM)
V4? fuhhh...

btw, did we can ask the cost of repair first? if its over my budget, can i refuse to repair? thinking to go to BTS.. is BTS nikon centre open on sunday?
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if u know the prob and know what to replace.. easier la.. but if u donno.. and they must take for a look, rm20 will be imposed
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QUOTE(BaRT @ Jan 23 2011, 12:09 PM)
D3100+kit = RM 1900
SB 700 = RM 1000

do you think it good price? planning to buy b4 CNY
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SB-700 can get RM980-990

Yes Good
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Hi guys I wanted to ask something which are kinda confusing to me. I'm using D5000 and planning to get either a 35 or 50mm prime lens.

I saw in other forum says that 50mm will look like a 75mm in my camera and 35 will look like a 50mm, can anyone explain to me why? thanks
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Jan 23 2011, 07:54 AM)
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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 23 2011, 09:16 AM)
Nikon is better tham canon..wohooo!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif ..then why Canon thread oledi v35 n Nikon thread still v4..still a long journey meh.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Jan 23 2011, 01:01 PM)
Hi guys I wanted to ask something which are kinda confusing to me. I'm using D5000 and planning to get either a 35 or 50mm prime lens.

I saw in other forum says that 50mm will look like a 75mm in my camera and 35 will look like a 50mm, can anyone explain to me why? thanks
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Because D5000 not Full Frame , what len u using will have to x1.5

that y 50*1.5 approximately become 75mm lo
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anyone going to klcc today?

btw should i get a batt grip for my d3100?
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jan 23 2011, 02:11 PM)
anyone going to klcc today?

btw should i get a batt grip for my d3100?
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hai scott,
currently your owned d3100?,
mind to share how much you bought?
I planning to get one for my younger sister b4 CNY,

thanks..
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jan 23 2011, 02:11 PM)
anyone going to klcc today?

btw should i get a batt grip for my d3100?
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what is in KLCC today?
is battery grip for D3100 available?
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QUOTE(BaRT @ Jan 23 2011, 02:31 PM)
hai scott,
currently your owned d3100?,
mind to share how much you bought?
I planning to get one for my younger sister b4 CNY,

thanks..
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used. rm 1600
QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 23 2011, 02:42 PM)
what is in KLCC today?
is battery grip for D3100 available?
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world press photo in convention center

no? i think got.
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jan 23 2011, 02:46 PM)
used. rm 1600
world press photo in convention center

no? i think got.
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is world press photo a good place to snap a picture or to see a picture? ticket fee?
scotty please do inform me if you manage to get one, because I've been waiting for the grip.
Thanks in advance
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jan 23 2011, 02:46 PM)
used. rm 1600

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body only or with kit lens?
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D3100 battery grip using IR to fire vertically. It might miss if you block the IR sensor on camera body.
And only third party available./
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 23 2011, 02:57 PM)
D3100 battery grip using IR to fire vertically. It might miss if you block the IR sensor on camera body.
And only third party available./
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bro is it available?
where to get one?
any link or something? Phottix?
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Idk. But the idea is exactly the same like how D5000/D3000/D60 user using the battery grip.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 23 2011, 03:02 PM)
Idk. But the idea is exactly the same like how D5000/D3000/D60 user using the battery grip.
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Please do inform me if you found any Thanks smile.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 23 2011, 02:56 PM)
is world press photo a good place to snap a picture or to see a picture? ticket fee?
scotty please do inform me if you manage to get one, because I've been waiting for the grip.
Thanks in advance
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WPP is a good place to see photos. but klcc is a good place to snap pics.
pm me if u wanna come.

QUOTE(BaRT @ Jan 23 2011, 02:56 PM)
body only or with kit lens?
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with kit lense
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 23 2011, 02:42 PM)
what is in KLCC today?
is battery grip for D3100 available?
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Nope yet.

So far no battery grip for Nikon D3100 yet. You can get extra battery first mah , no worry.


QUOTE(BaRT @ Jan 23 2011, 02:56 PM)
body only or with kit lens?
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He said used with body+kit

1900 that you found is already good price edi.

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Please do inform me if you found any Thanks smile.gif  icon_question.gif
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KTCY means the manufactures might come out the battery grip like the battery grip for Nikon 5000/D60 , using IR

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QUOTE(scotty @ Jan 23 2011, 03:09 PM)
WPP is a good place to see photos. but klcc is a good place to snap pics.
pm me if u wanna come.
with kit lense
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I think I will skip this one bro. maybe later if we have meeting session somewhere I will come. smile.gif

QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 23 2011, 03:17 PM)
Nope yet.

So far no battery grip for Nikon D3100 yet.
He said used with body+kit

1900 that you found is already good price edi.
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Thanks for the confirmation bro.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 23 2011, 03:21 PM)
I think I will skip this one bro. maybe later if we have meeting session somewhere I will come. smile.gif
Thanks for the confirmation bro.
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If there is any , i will let you know. Haha

Go get SB-700 + extra battery + Sigma 50mm instead of getting battery grip first. Not necessary for it haha
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 23 2011, 03:22 PM)
If there is any , i will let you know. Haha

Go get SB-700 + extra battery + Sigma 50mm instead of getting battery grip first. Not necessary for it haha
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I have flash gun and I already have my superb portrait lens smile.gif
and don't think about upgrade yet. body upgrade? maybe yes.
I do find I have a problem in holding my camera vertically.
usually I couldn't hold it symmetrically vertically therefore I wish battery grip could help me on that.

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I have flash gun and I already have my superb portrait lens smile.gif
and don't think about upgrade yet. body upgrade? maybe yes.
I do find I have a problem in holding my camera vertically.
usually I could hold it symmetrically vertically therefore I wish battery grip could help me on that.
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WOW V4 really fast growing thread... nikon~~ biggrin.gif

Guys was wondering if there are any nikon shirts? Maybe someone can design for members of this thread? biggrin.gif
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if i design the shirt and print it, how many of u guys will buy it?
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QUOTE(faareast @ Jan 23 2011, 04:28 PM)
if i design the shirt and print it, how many of u guys will buy it?
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Sure u can design and print it...but what if nikon malaysia finds out? As its infringment of copyright...unless of cos u get permission first.

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It's great to see the Nikon Thread being merged

But anyway, how do you guys find the Nikon SB700? I'm thinking of getting one soon.
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Sure u can design and print it...but what if nikon malaysia finds out? As its infringment of copyright...unless of cos u get permission first.
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its not a shirt about nikon.. its about nikon LYN forumers kaki.. beside, its not official nikon shirt.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Jan 23 2011, 05:13 PM)
It's great to see the Nikon Thread being merged

But anyway, how do you guys find the Nikon SB700? I'm thinking of getting one soon.
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most of reputable shop already selling it i think
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its not a shirt about nikon.. its about nikon LYN forumers kaki.. beside, its not official nikon shirt..  doh.gif
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I guess so provided it doesnt use the nikon corporate logo...anyway i wont wear it since i also got canon and olympus cams with me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Jan 23 2011, 05:13 PM)
It's great to see the Nikon Thread being merged

But anyway, how do you guys find the Nikon SB700? I'm thinking of getting one soon.
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SB-700 GOOD ! I am going to get that one

SB-700 is lighter than SB-900
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SB700 is like a mini SB900, more or less everything the SB900 offers just smaller and less powerful. Not to mention no PC jack. But I think most people here won't use that anyways.
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jan 23 2011, 02:11 PM)
anyone going to klcc today?

btw should i get a batt grip for my d3100?
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D3100 battery grip using IR to fire vertically. It might miss if you block the IR sensor on camera body.
And only third party available./
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IINM, D3100 got a port for wired remote
3rd party brands will create a battery grip which utilize that port
similar to D5000 3rd party battery grip im using, so can half-press AF n full-press to snap
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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Jan 23 2011, 05:13 PM)
It's great to see the Nikon Thread being merged

But anyway, how do you guys find the Nikon SB700? I'm thinking of getting one soon.
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its gonna be discontinued if not mistaken.. replaced by SB900


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if i design the shirt and print it, how many of u guys will buy it?
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depends on the design haha...

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jan 23 2011, 06:08 PM)
its gonna be discontinued if not mistaken.. replaced by SB900


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depends on the design haha...
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jan 23 2011, 06:08 PM)
its gonna be discontinued if not mistaken.. replaced by SB900


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depends on the design haha...
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 23 2011, 10:31 AM)
SB-700 GOOD ! I am going to get that one

SB-700 is lighter than SB-900
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Yeah, and it only cost around RM900 bundled with so many accessories.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 23 2011, 10:43 AM)
SB700 is like a mini SB900, more or less everything the SB900 offers just smaller and less powerful. Not to mention no PC jack. But I think most people here won't use that anyways.
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Icic, that's a good thing, I've been longing for this flash for more than 3 years. I wonder if the guide number of 28 on the SB 700 vs guide number of 30 on the SB 600 is a big difference or not?
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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Jan 23 2011, 09:52 PM)
Yeah, and it only cost around RM900 bundled with so many accessories.
Icic, that's a good thing, I've been longing for this flash for more than 3 years. I wonder if the guide number of 28 on the SB 700 vs guide number of 30 on the SB 600 is a big difference or not?
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where can get RM 900?? shakehead.gif
Im planning to get it one soon...
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where can get RM 900?? shakehead.gif
Im planning to get it one soon...
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if i got budget , I would choose SB-900 over SB-700

But im on budget 1k so i choose SB-700
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where can get RM 900?? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 24 2011, 12:43 AM)
if i got budget , I would choose SB-900 over SB-700

But im on budget 1k so i choose SB-700
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also, too add on, if u're muscular, sb900. if u dont want muscle sores, sb700 or 600.
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also, too add on, if u're muscular, sb900. if u dont want muscle sores, sb700 or 600.
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jan 23 2011, 04:07 PM)
WOW V4 really fast growing thread... nikon~~ biggrin.gif

Guys was wondering if there are any nikon shirts? Maybe someone can design for members of this thread? biggrin.gif
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to make it interesting....y not try to organize a tshirt design competition for this thread... winner will get to print out their design and sell it out here. plus... we will get the best out of all design....well...its kind of win-win situation if u knw wht i mean... smile.gif
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im just wondering if the weight is all in the mind, or everyone just simply saying tongue.gif

the weights w/o batt.
sb700 360gm.
sb800 350gm.
sb900 415gm.

sb700 and sb900 diff of only 55gm = roughly weight of 2 AA batts.

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im just wondering if the weight is all in the mind, or everyone just simply saying tongue.gif

the weights w/o batt.
sb700 360gm.
sb800 350gm.
sb900 415gm.

sb700 and sb900 diff of only 55gm = roughly weight of 2 AA batts.
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Guys,

I think of getting Tamron AF 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 XR Di II to replace my D5000 kit lens AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR. Coz Tamron seems like will cover all my needs. But is it the lense got autofocus with my Nikon D5000? And is it any good the Tamron vs my kit lens. Sifu's advice needed. Thanks.
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Just noticed, SB800 lighter than SB700  shocking.gif
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It's. But it will not be the lightest if 5th battery is there tongue.gif
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V4? fuhhh...

btw, did we can ask the cost of repair first? if its over my budget, can i refuse to repair? thinking to go to BTS.. is BTS nikon centre open on sunday?
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Pay RM20 for deposit,send your lens to PJ service centre.
The receptionist will call you up when they found out the problem on the lens
You have the right to refuse the repair if the price is expensive

I think they wont close at Sunday...they set-up their centre at Times Square which is 365days no public holiday
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Wahh  900 years old
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u dare to eat?? lolx
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You know hokkien?

"Beh Chao Sui Meh"?

Sure put alot preservatives
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I have noob question.
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can some1 teach me how to get these kind of color? (Old fashioned)
will color balance solve this one? if it is can teach me how?

I heard from my friend who is very good in photography he told me if every brand has their own color tone I couldn't really get it.
so please do tell me the color difference between Nikon, Canon and Sony system. Example provided is better

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"Beh Chao Sui Meh"?

Sure put alot preservatives
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That's daging salai. How to chao sui ? doh.gif
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That's daging salai. How to chao sui ? doh.gif
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I have noob question.
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can some1 teach me how to get these kind of color? (Old fashioned)
will color balance solve this one? if it is can teach me how?

I heard from my friend who is very good in photography he told me if every brand has their own color tone I couldn't really get it.
so please do tell me the color difference between Nikon, Canon and Sony system. Example provided is better
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hmm. not sure..
for me. is Post processing method.
shoot RAW and every tone are pretty possible to achieve. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 24 2011, 10:13 AM)
I have noob question.
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can some1 teach me how to get these kind of color? (Old fashioned)
will color balance solve this one? if it is can teach me how?

I heard from my friend who is very good in photography he told me if every brand has their own color tone I couldn't really get it.
so please do tell me the color difference between Nikon, Canon and Sony system. Example provided is better
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split toning in lightroom biggrin.gif

or you can try out alienskin exposure filter in photoshop.
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That ham making company got 900 years of history and experience lah, not the ham!
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 19 2011, 07:01 AM)
Taken in RAW, color adjustment done in LR (with XMP) so its still RAW, then into Photoshop.
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so u directly opened it in photoshop from lightroom
right click on the image->export->post processing->
under 'after export' tab press 'open in adobe photoshop'?

after photoshopin save it in jpeg format,correct?



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hmm. not sure..
for me. is Post processing method.
shoot RAW and every tone are pretty possible to achieve. tongue.gif
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split toning in lightroom biggrin.gif

or you can try out alienskin exposure filter in photoshop.
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I think I need to learn more about pp.


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This got nothing to do with nikon but it just cracks me up

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Machine-gun babeh! laugh.gif

Its an ad for that 600x CF card brows.gif
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Added on January 24, 2011, 2:53 pmhe wanted to looks like edward cullen.
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Ok I'm stuck in the cam shop wondering to get a batt grip or 35mm f/1.8 and I'm able to get either one of it... What do u guys think? I'm on a tight budget recently =(
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Ok I'm stuck in the cam shop wondering to get a batt grip or 35mm f/1.8 and I'm able to get either one of it... What do u guys think? I'm on a tight budget recently =(
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35mm f1.8 of course... for me.
Batt grip is convenient only for u to take in potrait mode and better grip with bigger lens.
so go for d lens 1st and it should serve u better than another chunk of grip to u.
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QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 24 2011, 05:47 PM)
Ok I'm stuck in the cam shop wondering to get a batt grip or 35mm f/1.8 and I'm able to get either one of it... What do u guys think? I'm on a tight budget recently =(
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i think the lens will help u more in low light conditions than the grip ... so my vote is the lens first ... grip can always come later when u need it ...
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Jan 24 2011, 05:43 PM)
berangan nak jadi askar la tu  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 24 2011, 05:47 PM)
Ok I'm stuck in the cam shop wondering to get a batt grip or 35mm f/1.8 and I'm able to get either one of it... What do u guys think? I'm on a tight budget recently =(
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IMO save a bit more and get 35mm F2. Its a better lens then 35mm F1.8, seriously.
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Ok I'm stuck in the cam shop wondering to get a batt grip or 35mm f/1.8 and I'm able to get either one of it... What do u guys think? I'm on a tight budget recently =(
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QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 24 2011, 05:47 PM)
Ok I'm stuck in the cam shop wondering to get a batt grip or 35mm f/1.8 and I'm able to get either one of it... What do u guys think? I'm on a tight budget recently =(
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QUOTE(daze @ Jan 24 2011, 05:50 PM)
35mm f1.8 of course... for me.
Batt grip is convenient only for u to take in potrait mode and better grip with bigger lens.
so go for d lens 1st and it should serve u better than another chunk of grip to u.
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QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 24 2011, 05:47 PM)
Ok I'm stuck in the cam shop wondering to get a batt grip or 35mm f/1.8 and I'm able to get either one of it... What do u guys think? I'm on a tight budget recently =(
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IMO , get len first . Battery grip is just extra accesory for you and not a must since you dont have bigger len , and you are not use to balance your dslr , it just bring you convenient while shooting in portrait only and add your battery life time.
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Nic , can you share all your exp in using Sigma 50mm ? Including weight ar , focusing .

How the focusing accuracy? Consistent ?

Other who exp this len might to share your exp as well? Thanks you

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 24 2011, 07:40 PM)
@General_Nic

Nic , can you share all your exp in using Sigma 50mm ? Including weight ar , focusing .

How the focusing accuracy? Consistent ?

Other who exp this len might to share your exp as well? Thanks you
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in terms of weight it's heavy, heavier than 18-105
but i dun mind d weight
as for focusing, it depends whether u get a good copy or nt
mind not so accurate
f/2.8 above can get consistent focus result, below that start to oof easily

my D5000 back thumb grip rubber came out doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
glued back with super glue d sweat.gif

oh ya, went klcc today, d Crumpler shop closed d?! shocking.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jan 24 2011, 08:52 PM)
in terms of weight it's heavy, heavier than 18-105
but i dun mind d weight
as for focusing, it depends whether u get a good copy or nt
mind not so accurate
f/2.8 above can get consistent focus result, below that start to oof easily

my D5000 back thumb grip rubber came out  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
glued back with super glue d  sweat.gif

oh ya, went klcc today, d Crumpler shop closed d?!  shocking.gif
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How's the focussing speed of sigma 50mm compared to Nikkor's G?? That day I tested the G and then the D, wow..... the G is soooo slow compared to D!! it is omg slow if comparing side by side..... wonder how's Sigma

Juz wondering if u have a Sigma 50mm, will u still use 35mm 1.8? lol..... I thought of keeping for group photo indoor, lol.... am I crazy

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Hey Kent have u tried out 50mm f/1.8 and 35mm f/1.8? If yes I need some comments on it... Decide to get an affordable prime lens first
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jan 24 2011, 08:52 PM)
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oh ya, went klcc today, d Crumpler shop closed d?!  shocking.gif
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Crumpler KLCC shifted to Pavilion dy.

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QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 24 2011, 09:07 PM)
Hey Kent have u tried out 50mm f/1.8 and 35mm f/1.8? If yes I need some comments on it... Decide to get an affordable prime lens first
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I would say the 50mm is always a better portrait coz of the focal length. It automatically creates better bokeh..... juz my 2cents
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jan 24 2011, 08:52 PM)

oh ya, went klcc today, d Crumpler shop closed d?!  shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Kiki-Lala @ Jan 24 2011, 09:18 PM)
Crumpler KLCC shifted to Pavilion dy.
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jan 24 2011, 08:52 PM)
in terms of weight it's heavy, heavier than 18-105
but i dun mind d weight
as for focusing, it depends whether u get a good copy or nt
mind not so accurate
f/2.8 above can get consistent focus result, below that start to oof easily

my D5000 back thumb grip rubber came out  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
glued back with super glue d  sweat.gif

oh ya, went klcc today, d Crumpler shop closed d?!  shocking.gif
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Yeah im consider to get Nikkor 50mm 1.4G although i know Sigma better ><" , the bokeh and sharp lose to Sigma lo , but better consistent focusing accuracy lar . Dilemma ><"

They say if got problem send back to calibrate or use high end body to adjust.

Haiya Dilemma lo

Crumpler KLCC under renovation, maybe make it larger !

I found a seller sell little bit cheaper than crumpler shop. The seller in photomalaysia one.

QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jan 24 2011, 08:55 PM)
How's the focussing speed of sigma 50mm compared to Nikkor's G?? That day I tested the G and then the D, wow..... the G is soooo slow compared to D!! it is omg slow if comparing side by side..... wonder how's Sigma

Juz wondering if u have a Sigma 50mm, will u still use 35mm 1.8? lol..... I thought of keeping for group photo indoor, lol.... am I crazy
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Yeah i will keep 35mm for indoor while 50mm for close up shoot

QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 24 2011, 09:07 PM)
Hey Kent have u tried out 50mm f/1.8 and 35mm f/1.8? If yes I need some comments on it... Decide to get an affordable prime lens first
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Depend on you.

You can use 50 , 85 , 135 to shoot portrait lo , you can isolate your subject better due to the focal length

For 35mm, normally for me i used to be shoot environmental portrait which mean u wan shoot the subject and background together .

As a conclusion , close up shoot - 50mm and so on or environmental portrait and indoor - 35mm

That what i learn from people one lar , i just share with you what i understand. If anythings , tolong ajar me , adjust my mistake.

You try to refer to Celciuz , most of his portrait ISOLATE the subject 99 ,close up shoot, creamy and nice bokeh one , but his portrait is not environmental as the background of his subject already blur 99 , he is using 85mm 1.4g , same as 50mm in DX. I like his portrait thumbup.gif


Yes G is slower focus than D , but the quality of the bokeh will be different lo , D has busy bokeh if not mistaken.

Yes i got 35mm and i will keep it for indoor , more wider and 50mm is for full body portrait , and isolate the subject , 50mm better isolation mah if compare to 35mm and also can be used next time if next time upgrade to D700/D800

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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 25 2011, 12:35 AM)
You guys buying lens according to your needs or based on what celciuz using? blink.gif
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Jan 25 2011, 12:54 AM)
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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 25 2011, 12:35 AM)
You guys buying lens according to your needs or based on what celciuz using? blink.gif
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What make you feel that?

I tot i just giving him the idea of how 35mm and 50mm look ><" . I am not based on what celciuz using.
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Good Mornig! =)

May I know anyone using tamron 28-75? It full frame lens right?
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Yesh. FF lens wink.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 09:45 AM)
Yesh. FF lens wink.gif
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QUOTE(C.P.U @ Jan 25 2011, 09:56 AM)
Ohh Thank..  smile.gif ... This lens sharp? Dealer don't have stock for it so I unable test on it yet.. I test Tamron 17-50 not sharp enough for me..  sad.gif
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Otherwise, Nikkor 24-70 f2.8 might feed your need. smile.gif
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QUOTE(C.P.U @ Jan 25 2011, 09:56 AM)
Ohh Thank..  smile.gif ... This lens sharp? Dealer don't have stock for it so I unable test on it yet.. I test Tamron 17-50 not sharp enough for me..  sad.gif
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Sigma 24-70 HSM better wink.gif
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QUOTE(shinjun @ Jan 25 2011, 09:59 AM)
You should go for prime lenses all the way if you are so concern about sharpness.
Otherwise, Nikkor 24-70 f2.8 might feed your need. smile.gif
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I am using 2 prime 150mm sigma and 35mm nikkor.. Both is sharp lens however there is time we need a standard zoom lens.. =D
I thinking 24-70 nikkor as well but the price costly.. I am looking alternative way first..


Added on January 25, 2011, 10:09 amKTCY
Sigma 24-70 HSM - under my list too.. but price double up right? 3k right?

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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jan 24 2011, 08:55 PM)
How's the focussing speed of sigma 50mm compared to Nikkor's G?? That day I tested the G and then the D, wow..... the G is soooo slow compared to D!! it is omg slow if comparing side by side..... wonder how's Sigma

Juz wondering if u have a Sigma 50mm, will u still use 35mm 1.8? lol..... I thought of keeping for group photo indoor, lol.... am I crazy
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I will keep my 35 when I manage to grab my 50mm sigma. maybe somewhere in may.
35mm is good for walk-around lens. where 50mm is for portrait on DX. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(C.P.U @ Jan 25 2011, 10:08 AM)
I am using 2 prime 150mm sigma and 35mm nikkor.. Both is sharp lens however there is time we need a standard zoom lens.. =D
I thinking 24-70 nikkor as well but the price costly.. I am looking alternative way first..


Added on January 25, 2011, 10:09 amKTCY
Sigma 24-70 HSM - under my list too.. but price double up right? 3k right?
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2nd hand Nikkor 17-55 maybe? Pricey but it's a Nikkor ! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shinjun @ Jan 25 2011, 10:15 AM)
2nd hand Nikkor 17-55 maybe? Pricey but it's a Nikkor ! laugh.gif
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Bite the bullet and go for a Nikkor 24-70. Don't look back, enjoy the lens. laugh.gif
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IDK why I love the look of 50mm 1.8 doh.gif
I think even tough later I have 50mm 1.4 sigma or 50mm 1.2 Nikkor (If later they publish) I still want to get that legendary 50mm 1.8 Nikkor.

Sadly no AF motor on my body. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 10:24 AM)
IDK why I love the look of 50mm 1.8 doh.gif
I think even tough I have 50mm 1.4 sigma or 50mm 1.2 Nikkor (If later they publish) I still want to get that legendary 50mm 1.8 Nikkor.

Sadly no AF motor on my body. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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u always shoot on f1.4? just curious
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jan 25 2011, 10:27 AM)
u always shoot on f1.4? just curious
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nop scotty. I don't have 1.4 lens yet sad.gif
I only have 1.8 lens and I am not always shooting with 1.8 aperture

Even tough later I have 1.4 or even 1.2 Nikkor I think I still want 50mm 1.8 Nikkor.
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u won't regret getting d nikkor 24-70...
jz if u use dx body...
no wide angle onli...
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 10:13 AM)
I will keep my 35 when I manage to grab my 50mm sigma. maybe somewhere in may.
35mm is good for walk-around lens. where 50mm is for portrait on DX.  whistling.gif
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u won't regret getting d nikkor 24-70...
jz if u use dx body...
no wide angle onli...
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 10:42 AM)
Trust me. I used to have 35/2 and 50/1.4
My 1.4 been sleeping there ever since 35 is there.
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uhh? Really? what make it so?
I mean they serve different purpose isn't it?
mind to elaborate more? moreover one is 1.4 aperture and another 1 is 2 aperture. what makes you go for 2 aperture instead?
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 10:46 AM)
blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
uhh? Really? what make it so?
I mean they serve different purpose isn't it?
mind to elaborate more? moreover one is 1.4 aperture and another 1 is 2 aperture. what makes you go for 2 aperture instead?
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I find 35mm more suitable for my use. Wedding, portraiture, dining etc.
50mm too tight. If I need some background separation, my 70200 is there.
So, in the end, i sold my 50mm. Is the range, not the aperture.
Might get 24/1.4 and 50m/1.2 once i'm on FF
35mm probably on selling list after this wink.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 10:52 AM)
I find 35mm more suitable for my use. Wedding, portraiture, dining etc.
50mm too tight. If I need some background separation, my 70200 is there.
So, in the end, i sold my 50mm. Is the range, not the aperture.
Might get 24/1.4 and 50m/1.2 once i'm on FF
35mm probably on selling list after this wink.gif
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50mm perspective is very nice. thumbup.gif
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35mm f2 can focus so close one.. n bokeh very nice too.
if u r on DX 35mm more suitable for portraiture..is like 50mm on FF body..
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50mm perspective is very nice. thumbup.gif
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For me nope. I used to own 35/2 then I sold off to get 50/1.4
After that I grab back 35/2 and sell off my 50/1.4
To me, 50mm on FF yes, very nice. On DX, sorry. Too tight. Can't have what I want sad.gif

QUOTE(riz50 @ Jan 25 2011, 11:02 AM)
35mm f2 can focus so close one.. n bokeh very nice too.
if u r on DX 35mm more suitable for portraiture..is like 50mm on FF body..
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I mean 50mm on FF and 35mm on DX biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 10:52 AM)
I find 35mm more suitable for my use. Wedding, portraiture, dining etc.
50mm too tight. If I need some background separation, my 70200 is there.
So, in the end, i sold my 50mm. Is the range, not the aperture.
Might get 24/1.4 and 50m/1.2 once i'm on FF
35mm probably on selling list after this wink.gif
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Yeah I found so too.
35m is perfect for walk-around. sadly I don't have 70200 yet. =\
I haven't use 50mm lens yet. therefore I don't know about the range estimation.
Thanks for the input bro. I might place it for consideration.
anyway what is your opinion about 70200 sigma? of course it is a way behind nikkor. but do you find it is acceptable?
I know you have a good sense of lens picking therefore you even said 35mm 1.8 is a trash tongue.gif
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Sigma 70200 HSM not that bad la. Acceptable but kinda soft on wide open above 130mm (IIRC)
For the price, get 80-200 Nikkor better wink.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 11:07 AM)
I haven't use 50mm lens yet. therefore I don't know about the range estimation.
i guesss u dont have any kit lens or regular zoom lens?
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 11:12 AM)
Sigma 70200 HSM not that bad la. Acceptable but kinda soft on wide open above 130mm (IIRC)
For the price, get 80-200 Nikkor better wink.gif
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the problem is it is not an AF-S lens. so I can't enjoy the AF on my body.
or upgrading body to d90 is a good idea? Man. I am stuck! doh.gif

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i guesss u dont have any kit lens or regular zoom lens?
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I found myself always playing with the zoom and unable to stick with one particular range if I use zoom lens. therefore when I bring my 1855 out I am playing with the zoom instead of stick with one range and threat it like prime lens. doh.gif a bad habit of mine.
Next time I must try not to even touch the zooming barrel. Thanks anyway
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 11:31 AM)
the problem is it is not an AF-S lens. so I can't enjoy the AF on my body.
or upgrading body to d90 is a good idea? Man. I am stuck!  doh.gif
I found myself always playing with the zoom and unable to stick with one particular range if I use zoom lens. therefore when I bring my 1855 out I am playing with the zoom instead of stick with one range and threat it like prime lens.  doh.gif  a bad habit of mine.
Next time I must try not to even touch the zooming barrel. Thanks anyway
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80-200 got AF-S, but more expensive tongue.gif
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/80200afs.htm

if on budget, why not find used camera? D70 or D80 around RM1k.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 25 2011, 11:34 AM)
80-200 got AF-S, but more expensive tongue.gif
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/80200afs.htm

if on budget, why not find used camera? D70 or D80 around RM1k.
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I really want to upgrade to D90 but I find it is more like degrade not upgrade unless I go for d7000.
and yeah D7000 is a way out of my budget.
80-200 is almost double of sigma 70-200 price. rclxub.gif
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80-200 AFD around 2.7k can get 2 touch version already. Very nice and sharp !
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 11:43 AM)
80-200 AFD around 2.7k can get 2 touch version already. Very nice and sharp !
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Here new need almost 3.8K, used also need around 3K...


QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 10:31 AM)
nop scotty. I don't have 1.4 lens yet sad.gif
I only have 1.8 lens and I am not always shooting with 1.8 aperture

Even tough later I have 1.4 or even 1.2 Nikkor I think I still want 50mm 1.8 Nikkor.
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50mm f/1.8 AFD cost less than RM400 or half the price of 35mm f/1.8G DX.
If you want to try, can get that, but it won't autofocus on your D3100.

For me, on DX body, I still find 50mm not tele enough for nice portrait; Since you have the kit lens, try focus to 50mm and use it and see. For me, it's still not tele enough.



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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 25 2011, 08:38 AM)
What make you feel that?

I tot i just giving him the idea of how 35mm and 50mm look ><" . I am not based on what celciuz using.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 11:43 AM)
80-200 AFD around 2.7k can get 2 touch version already. Very nice and sharp !
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will D3100 auto focus with AFD lens?
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So 2nd hand around 2.7k for 2 touch.


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will D3100 auto focus with AFD lens?
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No.
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y i not able to post from flickr to here? i got the following error

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Hope this help you. I google for you dont know whether work for you or not since i dont have flickr

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If based on what celciuz using we will b dead broke..... 6k+7k+4.5k+4k =?? icon_question.gif
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^^ 50mm F1.8 is cheaper rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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^^ 50mm F1.8 is cheaper rolleyes.gif  tongue.gif

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Just get one, plus you can practice manual focus along the way
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Just get one, plus you can practice manual focus along the way
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I tried the lens on BTS when I was considering 35mm 1.8. shoot like 10 pic approx 7 of them OOF.
how can I force myself to do manual focus doh.gif
models could kill me lor.. damn bad eye I have there. rclxub.gif
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u can use the indicator in the VF ma. Once it's green, it's in focus lo.
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u can use the indicator in the VF ma. Once it's green, it's in focus lo.
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I have no idea about that. sorry noob please do tell more about it. thanks! notworthy.gif
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Lower left corner in the viewfinder, the green dot.
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Thanks for the input.
I think I owe a visit to BTS again tongue.gif
Thank you bro.
anyway another noob question. Will I have the green dot if I use Ai-S lens?
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u can use the indicator in the VF ma. Once it's green, it's in focus lo.
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it is not that easy .
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I tried with my 85mm couple of times, it was easier than I expected.
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u champion .. maner bole lawan u bro .
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Point is, it isn't as tough as you all expected. I initially thought it is impossible to MF on 85 f/1.4. But still able to eventually after I tried it myself.
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Its all about practice, im still learning myself laugh.gif
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Point is, it isn't as tough as you all expected. I initially thought it is impossible to MF on 85 f/1.4. But still able to eventually after I tried it myself.
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i never said it's impossible .. i cume ckp susah ... lagi lagi moving object .. i used FM2 and FM10 .. manual focus too. but to shot moving object is quite difficult .. unless u shoot model .. senang la .. u got time to adjust ur setting, focus ... and for me .. even i shoot in studio i pakai Auto Focus.

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Oh, that is shooting something static haha! If something moving sorry la, I think even AF would have issue if subject moves alot.
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QUOTE(cik_tak @ Jan 25 2011, 05:26 PM)
i never said it's impossible .. i cume ckp susah ... lagi lagi moving object ..  i used FM2 and FM10 .. manual focus too. but to shot moving object is quite difficult .. unless u shoot model .. senang la .. u got time to adjust ur setting, focus ...  and for me .. even i shoot in studio i pakai Auto Focus.
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Moving object use manual focus? doh.gif
makes me want to vomit. on BTS I tried it on miniature (still object) out of 10 photos 7 is OOF rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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^^ 50mm F1.8 is cheaper rolleyes.gif  tongue.gif
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I use 50mm 1.8 for Food photography in my nikon d3100 because food wont move mah easy =D

Get 50mm 1.4g lo , as if u wan to upgrade to FX soon , still applicable , good in FX

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i personally think . that instead of knowing which lens suits you .... how to use that lens .. this lens ... u better start learn composition. and learn to shoot using lighting ( studio light or speedlight )
Bokeh is nice ... but lighting will get u further .
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QUOTE(cik_tak @ Jan 25 2011, 05:44 PM)
i personally think . that instead of knowing which lens suits you .... how to use that lens .. this lens ... u better start learn composition. and learn to shoot using lighting ( studio light or speedlight )
Bokeh is nice ... but lighting will get u further .
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studio setup is very expensive bro. you need to have many speedlites. plus the other setup etc etc etc.
I do agree lighting will get you further but it is a little too much for student like me. cry.gif

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Just a little sharing for portrait photography.
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http://blog.iamnikon.com/en_GB/coolpix/the...stiti%E2%80%99/
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Hi, im really love DSLR and I want 2 buy Nikon. Now funding for Nikon D90 coz there are 3 of my frens using Nikon 1 D60 n 2 D90..so, I will choose nikon over Canon n lame alpha laugh.gif nod.gif ..Im pretty noob about dis DSLR thing, so, mind telling me wat is aperture,shutter speed n ISO? When I hav to change them?

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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 25 2011, 06:31 PM)
Hi, im really love DSLR and I want 2 buy Nikon. Now funding for Nikon D90 coz there are 3 of my frens using Nikon 1 D60 n 2 D90..so, I will choose nikon over Canon n lame alpha laugh.gif nod.gif ..Im pretty noob about dis DSLR thing, so, mind telling me wat is aperture,shutter speed n ISO? When I hav to change them?
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Please Dont say Alpha LAME. Can you produce a DSLR ? You cant right? So dont say lame.

I no offense you just want you bear in your mind , learn to respect lar. You say what camera suck lame go ahead but dont say in forum lar , later other forumer see liao later beh song start flame , then ma fan. Cari pasal betul lo you . shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 25 2011, 06:31 PM)
Hi, im really love DSLR and I want 2 buy Nikon. Now funding for Nikon D90 coz there are 3 of my frens using Nikon 1 D60 n 2 D90..so, I will choose nikon over Canon n lame alpha laugh.gif nod.gif ..Im pretty noob about dis DSLR thing, so, mind telling me wat is aperture,shutter speed n ISO? When I hav to change them?
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cant explain in 1 reply.
i'm not pro and i'm still learning myself.
but i would suggest you read up or try to understand Aperture, Shutter Speed & ISO of how they affect an outcome of a photo.
hands on and play around with them for a better understanding.

is not rocket science. there's no exact formula for you refer what setting for u to take this scene.
given the same camera, same place, same timing. each photog will have a slightly different setting.
well these are basically the technical part.

the aesthetic part...ask the other SIFU up there. smile.gif
Cheers & enjoy photography.
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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 25 2011, 06:31 PM)
Hi, im really love DSLR and I want 2 buy Nikon. Now funding for Nikon D90 coz there are 3 of my frens using Nikon 1 D60 n 2 D90..so, I will choose nikon over Canon n lame alpha laugh.gif nod.gif ..Im pretty noob about dis DSLR thing, so, mind telling me wat is aperture,shutter speed n ISO? When I hav to change them?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/311850
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 06:40 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/311850
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Hi, im really love DSLR and I want 2 buy Nikon. Now funding for Nikon D90 coz there are 3 of my frens using Nikon 1 D60 n 2 D90..so, I will choose nikon over Canon n lame alpha laugh.gif nod.gif ..Im pretty noob about dis DSLR thing, so, mind telling me wat is aperture,shutter speed n ISO? When I hav to change them?
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i learn from making love with my DSLR...thus understand it more. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 25 2011, 06:37 PM)
Oh Manual Book Got ! Read yourself.  Google unker also got

Please Dont say Alpha LAME. Can you produce a DSLR ? You cant right? So dont say lame.

I no offense you just want you bear in your mind , learn to respect lar. You say what camera suck lame go ahead but dont say in forum lar , later other forumer see liao later beh song start flame , then ma fan. Cari pasal betul lo you .  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 05:58 PM)
studio setup is very expensive bro. you need to have many speedlites. plus the other setup etc etc etc.
I do agree lighting will get you further but it is a little too much for student like me.  cry.gif
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i gave u example of lighting ... such as speedlight or studio light ... but actually u didn't realize that u got lot of light source around u... available light ... tungsten ... flourescent lamp ... and if u can buy expensive lens .. y dont u spend little on cheap lighting .. if u too depends on Bokeh .. ur picture will end up boring ... just my 2 cents opinion ..

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Jan 23 2011, 02:15 AM)
Good day!
Currently im searching new d3100 + kit for my younger sister & sb-700 for myself.
The best price I found:
D3100+kit with free gift = RM 1990
SB700 = RM 1070

so far any other places can offer better price?
Highly appreciate your input.

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QUOTE(cik_tak @ Jan 25 2011, 07:33 PM)
i gave u example of lighting ... such as speedlight or studio light ... but actually u didn't realize that u got lot of light source around u... available light ... tungsten ... flourescent lamp ...  and if u can buy expensive lens .. y dont u spend little on cheap lighting ..  if u too depends on Bokeh .. ur picture will end up boring ...  just my 2 cents opinion ..
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Very true bro. well spoken I will consider that.

QUOTE(jiroHC @ Jan 25 2011, 08:05 PM)
hi guys..im confusing type of photography..there such like nature,building,potrait, bla3.. rclxub.gif
if this pic what kind of photography..(other than bokeh)
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How durable D90 is to weather?
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How durable D90 is to weather?
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Does anyone knows what is the expected second hand price for a two years old Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8?

The lens is in mint condition, it is protected with the filter since day 1, but there's one small white mark on the lens's front element (It's on the rim of the lens, it doesn't seem to affect the image quality, I am not sure if it's removable or not)
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 25 2011, 07:39 PM)
Just bought mine at J-One at Amcorp Mall for RM 1900

D3100 + bag+ 4gb SDHC card.
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Oh, dunno dat..hehe..Wat I mean is cleaning kit or free upgrade 2 8Gb SD Card..

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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Jan 25 2011, 08:55 PM)
Does anyone knows what is the expected second hand price for a two years old Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8?

The lens is in mint condition, it is protected with the filter since day 1, but there's one small white mark on the lens's front element (It's on the rim of the lens, it doesn't seem to affect the image quality, I am not sure if it's removable or not)
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I saw 1 on garage sale for RM 3300.

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Oh, dunno dat..hehe..Wat I mean is cleaning kit or free upgrade 2 8Gb MicroSD..
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3300rm for a 24-70? man that's a steal.

usually i check photomalaysia for second hand lens price average. 24-70 is perhaps around 5krm.
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RM3k+- price mostly would be 17-55 second hand price.
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QUOTE(fubs @ Jan 25 2011, 09:14 PM)
3300rm for a 24-70? man that's a steal.

usually i check photomalaysia for second hand lens price average. 24-70 is perhaps around 5krm.
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QUOTE(Kiki-Lala @ Jan 25 2011, 09:29 PM)
RM3k+- price mostly would be 17-55 second hand price.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1637184
it is RM 3400.
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3.3k seems to be the price for a bad condition 17-55 nikkor to me. A good condition one probably go around 3.8k-4k. smile.gif


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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jan 24 2011, 08:55 PM)
How's the focussing speed of sigma 50mm compared to Nikkor's G?? That day I tested the G and then the D, wow..... the G is soooo slow compared to D!! it is omg slow if comparing side by side..... wonder how's Sigma

Juz wondering if u have a Sigma 50mm, will u still use 35mm 1.8? lol..... I thought of keeping for group photo indoor, lol.... am I crazy
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G is slower than Sigma, thats for sure

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 10:24 AM)
IDK why I love the look of 50mm 1.8 doh.gif
I think even tough later I have 50mm 1.4 sigma or 50mm 1.2 Nikkor (If later they publish) I still want to get that legendary 50mm 1.8 Nikkor.

Sadly no AF motor on my body. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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d current best Nikkor 50mm is AIS f/1.2 manual focus whistling.gif

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hi guys..im confusing type of photography..there such like nature,building,potrait, bla3.. rclxub.gif
if this pic what kind of photography..(other than bokeh)
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Abstract photography?

QUOTE(wadever @ Jan 25 2011, 08:36 PM)
How durable D90 is to weather?
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more durable than compact PnS i dare say

QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 25 2011, 09:08 PM)
Oh, dunno dat..hehe..Wat I mean is cleaning kit or free upgrade 2 8Gb MicroSD..
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cleaning kit normally those cheapo 1, worth around rm10 oni, haha
n y wan 'upgrade' to MicroSD? blink.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jan 25 2011, 09:32 PM)
G is slower than Sigma, thats for sure
d current best Nikkor 50mm is AIS f/1.2 manual focus  whistling.gif
Abstract photography?
more durable than compact PnS i dare say
cleaning kit normally those cheapo 1, worth around rm10 oni, haha
n y wan 'upgrade' to MicroSD?  blink.gif
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My fren got cleaning kit worth RM40 when he bought D90 laugh.gif .. typo, should be SD Card.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jan 25 2011, 09:32 PM)
G is slower than Sigma, thats for sure
d current best Nikkor 50mm is AIS f/1.2 manual focus  whistling.gif
Abstract photography?
more durable than compact PnS i dare say
cleaning kit normally those cheapo 1, worth around rm10 oni, haha
n y wan 'upgrade' to MicroSD?  blink.gif
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Not interested on manual focus only lens. whistling.gif
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28-70 and 24-70 is a different thing altogether sweat.gif
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That's 28 not 24 ==
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24-70 and 28-70 are different. Hope you don't mix both up yea? Besides that thread has been in GS for quite some time.
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jan 25 2011, 09:32 PM)
G is slower than Sigma, thats for sure
d current best Nikkor 50mm is AIS f/1.2 manual focus  whistling.gif
Abstract photography?
more durable than compact PnS i dare say
cleaning kit normally those cheapo 1, worth around rm10 oni, haha
n y wan 'upgrade' to MicroSD?  blink.gif
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I used the 50mm f/1.2 before... not my type of lens definitely.

Nowadays I like using cold tone biggrin.gif,

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QUOTE(fubs @ Jan 25 2011, 09:42 PM)
28-70 and 24-70 is a different thing altogether  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Beanie2304 @ Jan 25 2011, 09:43 PM)
That's 28 not 24 ==
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QUOTE(Kiki-Lala @ Jan 25 2011, 09:46 PM)
24-70 and 28-70 are different. Hope you don't mix both up yea? Besides that thread has been in GS for quite some time.
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Sorry.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 25 2011, 09:46 PM)
I used the 50mm f/1.2 before... not my type of lens definitely.

Nowadays I like using cold tone biggrin.gif,

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Dis is manual focus lens or auto focus lens?
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Confirm from his 85mm 1.4G dry.gif laugh.gif

Autofocus btw
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since we are at this topic. any diff between the two lenses? 24-70 and 28-70?
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the usual with most, if not all, lens updates: sharper, better CA control, AF-S, gelded, less vignette, more contrast (nano coat).

doesn't mean the old one wasn't any good; it's just that updates are usually better in many ways smile.gif
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QUOTE(scotty @ Jan 25 2011, 09:54 PM)
since we are at this topic. any diff between the two lenses? 24-70 and 28-70?
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If you're talking about Nikkor lens, the 2470 is the newer lens. Comes with speedy AF-S and also the nanocoat. The 28-70 on the other hand is an old lens, screw driven instead. Optics wise... I don't know, only have experience with the 2470 nanocoat.
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since we are at this topic. any diff between the two lenses? 24-70 and 28-70?
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The difference that I know is there's autofocus motor (SWM) in 24-70 if I'm not wrong.

And 24-70 is one lens that Nikon users should really buy it, it's the best lens among it's range, seriously
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2870 got AF-S so its silent. Main different other then already stated would be the size and weight, there's a reason why people call it "the beast" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 23 2011, 11:40 PM)
^^ It does help if you have a tripod (if camera shake is your concern laugh.gif)

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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 25 2011, 10:06 PM)
2870 got AF-S so its silent. Main different other then already stated would be the size and weight, there's a reason why people call it "the beast" laugh.gif
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mind to elaborate what happen with the size and weight? I don't get it.
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Am curious, does the 2870 extend when zooming?
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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 25 2011, 10:17 PM)
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was about to ask that too. so just the nano coating and 4mm focal range diff.
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one is white version, one is normal tongue.gif optical quality difference should be enough reason to buy the latest version

and if you look at the sales thread, you can see the extended part of the lens.
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was about to ask that too. so just the nano coating and 4mm focal range diff.
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Nanocoat actually improves CA and also contrast. Take for example the 85D versus the 85G, the 85G has better CA control and also contrast when wide open at f/1.4

Same goes to the 70200 VR and 70200 VRII.
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Tat day when I tested the 24-70 in BTS, I wonder why this such expensive lens will have the lens barrel move in n out so stupidly, Aiiz.... This means no weather seal??
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Its wheather sealed
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nikon never said its lenses are weather sealed. but most of us knew it from experience that the lenses can and do appear weather resistant. to what extent? well up to your luck i guess tongue.gif

i've used my camera with the 18-70mm in minor rain a couple of times without cover. no problem so far *touch wood*

the 18-70 do has this rubber thingie at the mount part though. not bad for a kit lens smile.gif
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The review on nikon 24-70mm 2.8. Can see even in minor rain can still shoot2 laugh.gif



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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 10:52 AM)
I find 35mm more suitable for my use. Wedding, portraiture, dining etc.
50mm too tight. If I need some background separation, my 70200 is there.
So, in the end, i sold my 50mm. Is the range, not the aperture.
Might get 24/1.4 and 50m/1.2 once i'm on FF
35mm probably on selling list after this wink.gif
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And you can focus using hyper focal also if you know how to.
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QUOTE(fubs @ Jan 25 2011, 10:54 PM)
nikon never said its lenses are weather sealed. but most of us knew it from experience that the lenses can and do appear weather resistant. to what extent? well up to your luck i guess tongue.gif

i've used my camera with the 18-70mm in minor rain a couple of times without cover. no problem so far *touch wood*

the 18-70 do has this rubber thingie at the mount part though. not bad for a kit lens smile.gif
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even I bring my 1855 during rain. but still works perfectly. brows.gif
weather sealed? I think for such a cheapo lens like 1855 nikon wouldn't implement that.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 11:35 PM)
even I bring my 1855 during rain. but still works perfectly.  brows.gif
weather sealed? I think for such a cheapo lens like 1855 nikon wouldn't implement that.
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Little bit of rain is fine 1, except those very heavy rain
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What to check when buying a new len? ?

I google it , but i cannot find any answers , Google showed how to check when buying "USED" len or gear


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check the glass, check the focus, using focus chart.
Check the outer, scratch etc.

Most important should be the glass. Fungus, dust etc !
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front and back focusing problem using focusing chart. sharpness <- scare you kena lemon copy.
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front and back focusing problem using focusing chart. sharpness <- scare you kena lemon copy.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 11:43 PM)
check the glass, check the focus, using focus chart.
Check the outer, scratch etc.

Most important should be the glass. Fungus, dust etc !
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Im buying nikkor len . But i dont have my DSLR here , left at hometown. ><" , i try to borrow the camera to test from the camera shop

1. Check the warranty.
2. Check the Glass (Glass inside?)
3. Check the focus
4. Using focus chart (Wonder they provided or not)
5. Check the outer
6. Check the scratch

Any more beside what KTCY and aldo said.

Thank to you two anyway
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 25 2011, 11:41 PM)
Yeah. Drizzling I still shoot. Cats and dogs, straight inside my bag. laugh.gif
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Cats & dogs sure hiding, i don't wanna get wet tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 25 2011, 11:48 PM)
Im buying nikkor len . But i dont have my DSLR here , left at hometown. ><" , i try to borrow the camera to test from the camera shop

1. Check the warranty.
2. Check the Glass (Glass inside?)
3. Check the focus
4. Using focus chart (Wonder they provided or not)
5. Check the outer
6. Check the scratch

Any more beside what KTCY and aldo said.

Thank to you two anyway
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You can check everything and find the lens in mint condition, but without your own dslr you can never know whether it is in good condition for your camera. The 'mint' condition lens might have back or front focus mount on your camera but not with the shop's. So it is not advisable to test without your very own camera when buying a lens.

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 25 2011, 11:48 PM)
Im buying nikkor len . But i dont have my DSLR here , left at hometown. ><" , i try to borrow the camera to test from the camera shop

1. Check the warranty.
2. Check the Glass (Glass inside?)
3. Check the focus
4. Using focus chart (Wonder they provided or not)
5. Check the outer
6. Check the scratch

Any more beside what KTCY and aldo said.

Thank to you two anyway
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you can get the focusing chart on google.
and I suggest you to test with your very own camera.
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 25 2011, 11:54 PM)
You can check everything and find the lens in mint condition, but without your own dslr you can never know whether it is in good condition for your camera. The 'mint' condition lens might have back or front focus mount on your camera but not with the shop's. So it is not advisable to test without your very own camera when buying a lens.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 25 2011, 11:56 PM)
you can get the focusing chart on google.
and I suggest you to test with your very own camera.
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Yeah i got a PDF focus chart but dun know how to use , i will try to read how to use . As need 45 degree and alot ><"

Alright thanks then i tell the tauke i wont get the len first bah , wait back hometown then go penang get one
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 26 2011, 12:01 AM)
Yeah i got a PDF focus chart but dun know how to use , i will try to read how to use . As need 45 degree and alot ><"

Alright thanks then i tell the tauke i wont get the len first bah , wait back hometown then go penang get one
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Do the battery test for focus too I would suggest in case you can't get the focus chart right. Battery test is easier to do and read too. Just place 3 battery side by side, then move the left battery slightly to the back and the right slightly to the front. Place your camera directly in front of the middle battery on focus on it. Either left or right battery is sharper meaning you got back or front focus. Try it out. AA battery will. nod.gif
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 26 2011, 12:18 AM)
Do the battery test for focus too I would suggest in case you can't get the focus chart right. Battery test is easier to do and read too. Just place 3 battery side by side, then move the left battery slightly to the back and the right slightly to the front. Place your camera directly in front of the middle battery on focus on it. Either left or right battery is sharper meaning you got back or front focus. Try it out. AA battery will. nod.gif
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You mean

is like

-----Battery 1--------
-------Battery 2--------
-------- Battery 3--------

am i correct illustrate what you mean?

Can do like

How if line them in 3 rows

Battery1
Battery2
Battery3


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---(batt 1)---
-------------(batt 2)---
------------------------(batt 3)---


Oops it doesnt show . LOL wait lemme edit it. Like this. LOL but slight closer as in just half out. Meaning the front of batt 1 is about parallel to the middle point of batt 2.

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Added on January 26, 2011, 1:49 amDo 5 batteries to see the result clearly. smile.gif

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I just realize that my D3100 picture control is actually rewritable. blink.gif blink.gif
I find it out when I playing with my camera and accidentally press right button.
Currently enjoying my new toy. brows.gif brows.gif
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http://focustestchart.com/chart.html

Regarding the focus chart,I've used this chart from the above mentioned website for my d7000 testing.Is there any specific chart for d7000?


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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 26 2011, 02:01 AM)
I just realize that my D3100 picture control is actually rewritable.  blink.gif  blink.gif
I find it out when I playing with my camera and accidentally press right button.
Currently enjoying my new toy.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Jan 26 2011, 03:30 AM)
even I a canon user knows that  sweat.gif

go learn more in this link it will be 15 minutes worth of your life spending time

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well... u know la people... got manual kasi buang... whistling.gif
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well... u know la people... got manual kasi buang...  whistling.gif
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Same as me, manual for readings. If still don't understand, Google and youtube it. Helps a lot! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 26 2011, 01:44 AM)
---(batt 1)---
-------------(batt 2)---
------------------------(batt 3)---
Oops it doesnt show . LOL wait lemme edit it. Like this. LOL but slight closer as in just half out. Meaning the front of batt 1 is about parallel to the middle point of batt 2.

Okay, edited.
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Added on January 26, 2011, 1:49 amDo 5 batteries to see the result clearly. smile.gif
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Thanks you very much !!

And if got focus chart , izzit a must to shoot at 45 degree at the focus test chart?

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Thanks you very much !!

And if got focus chart , izzit a must to shoot at 45 degree at the focus test chart?
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The battery test is quite accurate itself, but for more precise results, always use the focus chart and shoot at 45 degree(measure with ruler to make sure that it's really 45degree tongue.gif )
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Nikon pro level glass are all weather sealed. They do mention this part for specific products.
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No youtube access bro sad.gif
later on I will go back to this.

QUOTE(razuryza @ Jan 26 2011, 03:37 AM)
well... u know la people... got manual kasi buang...  whistling.gif
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Sorry la bro. really I go trough each main section of my manual but none of them saying if it is overwrite-able
as it you can boost the sharpness, saturation etc etc.. it will shorten the long time of PP. tongue.gif

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for the battery test, is there any specific setting to use? like aperture must be bla2... and so on?


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Sorry la bro. really I go trough each main section of my manual but none of them saying if it is overwrite-able
as it you can boost the sharpness, saturation etc etc.. it will shorten the long time of PP.  tongue.gif
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its there.... i remember i read it...

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for the battery test, is there any specific setting to use? like aperture must be bla2... and so on?


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its there.... i remember i read it...
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any review on 18-70 f/3.5-4.5 IF-ED lens? and why the lens is discontinued? please do enlighten me

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The battery test is quite accurate itself, but for more precise results, always use the focus chart and shoot at 45 degree(measure with ruler to make sure that it's really 45degree  tongue.gif )
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Hahahaha, this is what i plan to do But got other better way lar.. Can i agak agak 45 degree can d.

QUOTE(faareast @ Jan 26 2011, 10:32 AM)
for the battery test, is there any specific setting to use? like aperture must be bla2... and so on?


Added on January 26, 2011, 10:33 am

its there.... i remember i read it...
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Wide up your aperture. let say the maximum aperture is 1.8 then adjust it to f/1.8 , Which mean set ur camera to Aperture Priority mode.
Set the Autofocus system to the AF-S
Set the AF-Area mode to Single Area
Make sure your focus point is at center. I mean the red dot in viewfinder.
Metering mode , any mode will do
But betetr if you got tripod lar make it 45 degree then focus on your focus test chart.

This friday try go penang see and test how.

http://focustestchart.com/chart.html

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if u're not selling so soon i'll consider gettin it from u. cos just got a 50/1.8 from another forummer less than 2 weeks ago.

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I just upgraded from d3000 to d90 last week ..two of my friends are using d5000 and they keep telling me that their d5000 is almost same as d90.. shocking.gif

i dont really care what they say because i know what i can get from d90 than d5000..even though my friends started in photography earlier than me.. sweat.gif.. But never stop learning rclxms.gif

But i mean seriously? if compare with the picture quality and the outcome..is it really the same?
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Good day!

I just upgraded from d3000 to d90 last week ..two of my friends are using d5000 and they keep telling me that their d5000 is almost same as d90.. shocking.gif

i dont really care what they say because i know what i can get from d90 than d5000..even though my friends started in photography earlier than me..  sweat.gif.. But never stop learning rclxms.gif

But i mean seriously? if compare with the picture quality and the outcome..is it really the same?
I realised my picture taken from d90 is better than d3000 in term of sharpest and looks better using kit lens..hmm..or just because its d90  hmm.gif
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of course image quality from d90 would be better than d3000. it's a different sensor. however, d5000 and d90 are using the same sensor. so they should be the same.
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AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G,can i sue that for my d3000?how this lens??ok?
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Nikon is tough. I dropped mine too. My hood mount cracked, but mine was from shoulder level. My lens lucky didn't break phew. Now waiting for new HB-55 LOL. Old one still can use, but see liao also sian.

My D700 pop up flash there got a bit of 'battle scar' jor >(
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so means later if u want to sell the 24-70 get 50% discount? tongue.gif
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Nikon is tough. I dropped mine too. My hood mount cracked, but mine was from shoulder level. My lens lucky didn't break phew. Now waiting for new HB-55 LOL. Old one still can use, but see liao also sian.

My D700 pop up flash there got a bit of 'battle scar' jor >(
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Tough guy is tough. The same. all shoulder level. Feels bad mang. Lens hood put aside already.

Its going to be costly haha
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Hahahaha, this is what i plan to do But got other better way lar.. Can i agak agak 45 degree can d. 
Wide up your aperture. let say the maximum aperture is 1.8 then adjust it to f/1.8 , Which mean set ur camera to Aperture Priority mode.
Set the Autofocus system to the AF-S
Set the AF-Area mode to Single Area
Make sure your focus point is at center. I mean the red dot in viewfinder.
Metering mode , any mode will do
But betetr if you got tripod lar make it 45 degree then focus on your focus test chart.

This friday try go penang see and test how.

http://focustestchart.com/chart.html
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But problem with that 45 degree is that lens with maximum aperture 3.5 above give you result that is very hard to read whether there is any front or back focusing.

Also, 1.8 aperture sometimes can give you soft image thus it is even harder to tell about the focus issue.

Try to do the battery test if you find yourself unable to judge the focus problem. smile.gif

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I don't know how much your hood, mine goes for RM128 at SSK.com

Told my friend to order for me, but apparently Nikon no stock >_<
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hey sifu's' , i have some question .......

i am considering to buy a flashgun , supposedly sb600 since is it cheapest and it support most feature i wanted .... FP , CLS , etc ....

but SB600 is discontinued now , i am not sure what i should do ...

1) hunt for the remaining sb600 (not sure if the price is still on the high side since supply is low now)

2) save some and get SB700 (considering if sb600 is rm800 and sb700 is rm200 more only? )

3) save even more and get SB900 ??

i am going on travel soon , wish to have a flash gun so some moment are nt missed
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QUOTE(angelic88 @ Jan 26 2011, 02:03 PM)
hey sifu's' , i have some question .......

i am considering to buy a flashgun , supposedly sb600 since is it cheapest and it support most feature i wanted .... FP , CLS , etc ....

but SB600 is discontinued now , i am not sure what i should do ...

1) hunt for the remaining sb600 (not sure if the price is still on the high side since supply is low now)

2) save some and get SB700 (considering if sb600 is rm800 and sb700 is rm200 more only? )

3) save even more and get SB900 ??

i am going on travel soon , wish to have a flash gun so some moment are nt missed
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new sb600 still can find, price still around rm790.
used sb600 around rm600-650, if lucky some still got warranty left.
or can also look at 3rd party like nissin di622 mk2 around rm450.

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35mm i waaannnnn lol.

if u're not selling so soon i'll consider gettin it from u. cos just got a 50/1.8 from another forummer less than 2 weeks ago.
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 26 2011, 02:01 PM)
But problem with that 45 degree is that lens with maximum aperture 3.5 above give you result that is very hard to read whether there is any front or back focusing.

Also, 1.8 aperture sometimes can give you soft image thus it is even harder to tell about the focus issue.

Try to do the battery test if you find yourself unable to judge the focus problem.  smile.gif
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Alright thanks bro . Thanks alot. See this fri or sat i try to post up my test , then need you to help me judge haha blush.gif blush.gif

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AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G,can i sue that for my d3000?how this lens??ok?
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AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G,can i sue that for my d3000?how this lens??ok?
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Yes it is a good lens. It has build in motor that means it can auto focus on d3000..
It take good and sharp pictures too!
Plus it has wider angle compare to 50mm. thumbup.gif

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Eh celciuz bro, since u always do photoshoot in Melaka, I think you are the most suitable person to help me liao tongue.gif
Do you have any ideas of location in Melaka for this cosplay photoshoot at link below? Need some suggestions here thanks. notworthy.gif

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Guys, as mentioned 2 or 3 post back, to know a lens has problem or not, can use focus chart and the battery test.
How to check if the newly bought body or flash is in perfect condition then? Planning to get Nissin Di622 MarkII, but don't know how to know if there is any problem with the flashgun. Spam the flash in full power and see the recycle time? Or usually flashgun has no problem at all?
Thanks.

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Read the manual, there's one part about file number sequence. I can't recall which section it is in. It is best to leave the number running, no need to worry having duplicate file names and end up overwritting when copying to PC.
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the focus test is for the lens only or is body also matter?
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hey guys im wondering how much will a 18-105mm kit lens worth? its only a month condition 10/10...

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QUOTE(wmhafiz @ Jan 26 2011, 08:12 PM)
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No youtube access bro sad.gif
later on I will go back to this.
Sorry la bro. really I go trough each main section of my manual but none of them saying if it is overwrite-able
as it you can boost the sharpness, saturation etc etc.. it will shorten the long time of PP.  tongue.gif
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If you shoot raw, your raw file will have none of those settings applied. The first thing you will notice if you do shoot raw is... there is NO NOISE REDUCTION applied. So,... yea, you have more things to PP.


QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 26 2011, 02:01 PM)
But problem with that 45 degree is that lens with maximum aperture 3.5 above give you result that is very hard to read whether there is any front or back focusing.

Also, 1.8 aperture sometimes can give you soft image thus it is even harder to tell about the focus issue.

Try to do the battery test if you find yourself unable to judge the focus problem.  smile.gif
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Nope, the bigger the aperture, the easier to know the problem. The smaller aperture will have more in focus, covers more depth, so it's harder to tell.

If you want to do proper focus test, you will need to use tripod and do serious test to know. For basic test without tripod, you can put the camera on the table, line up the batteries, or put a book with wordings 45 degrees, etc. open to the widest aperture and focus and shoot, make sure the camera and object doesn't move. Take several shots, review the pictures and see.

Example:

-|------
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---C---

C = Camera
| = Batteries or other objects, or book/paper with words in 45 degrees


If you're handholding and shooting in f/1.4 or 1/1.8, you might not doing it properly where you or the camera might have moved just a little and the actual focus depth/plane changed when you press/release the shutter, resulting in inaccurate test.

If you have time, watch this video tutorial and how this guy test:

Part 1:


Part 2:


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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jan 27 2011, 01:04 AM)
If you shoot raw, your raw file will have none of those settings applied. The first thing you will notice if you do shoot raw is... there is NO NOISE REDUCTION applied. So,... yea, you have more things to PP.
Nope, the bigger the aperture, the easier to know the problem. The smaller aperture will have more in focus, covers more depth, so it's harder to tell.

If you want to do proper focus test, you will need to use tripod and do serious test to know. For basic test without tripod, you can put the camera on the table, line up the batteries, or put a book with wordings 45 degrees, etc. open to the widest aperture and focus and shoot, make sure the camera and object doesn't move. Take several shots, review the pictures and see.

Example:

-|------
--|----- 
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---C---

C = Camera
| = Batteries or other objects, or book/paper with words in 45 degrees
If you're handholding and shooting in f/1.4 or 1/1.8, you might not doing it properly where you or the camera might have moved just a little and the actual focus depth/plane changed when you press/release the shutter, resulting in inaccurate test.

If you have time, watch this video tutorial and how this guy test:

Part 1:


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Nope, what I mean is at the widest aperture, it is usually not the sharpest(image look soft and hazy) and mostly very hard to get the focus lock on as the DOF is too shallow. whistling.gif

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Nope, what I mean is at the widest aperture, it is usually not the sharpest(image look soft and hazy) and mostly very hard to get the focus lock on as the DOP is too shallow.  whistling.gif
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That's the point of opening to wides aperture, for the shallow depth of field so that you can easily pin point which area front or back focus problem. With small aperture, it's harder to differentiate due to the more depth of field covered.
Most people face front or back focusing problem when the aperture is wide open, because they focus on the eyes, but end up the nose or hand, etc is in focus. With smaller aperture, you hardly have such problem.

Unless you wanna do sharpness test for the lens, such as MTF chart, to find out the sharpness at each focal length for each aperture...


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That's the point of opening to wides aperture, for the shallow depth of field so that you can easily pin point which area front or back focus problem. With small aperture, it's harder to differentiate due to the more depth of field covered.
Most people face front or back focusing problem when the aperture is wide open, because they focus on the eyes, but end up the nose or hand, etc is in focus. With smaller aperture, you hardly have such problem.

Unless you wanna do sharpness test for the lens, such as MTF chart, to find out the sharpness at each focal length for each aperture...
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Haha, you still don't get it, at the widest aperture the image out of the camera is too soft and hazy(often lack of contrast too), it is too hard to judge about the focus, normally you need to go down 1 f-stop to get the image sharper so as to see the result and easily able to tell the focus issue.


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Guys, rare turtle..snapped at one of beaches in Kemaman, Terengganu..
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Wow your lens has super back focus problem laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 27 2011, 01:42 AM)
Haha, you still don't get it, at the widest aperture the image out of the camera is too soft and hazy(often lack of contrast too), it is too hard to judge about the focus, normally you need to go down 1 f-stop to get the image sharper so as to see the result and easily able to tell the focus issue.


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Wow your lens has super back focus problem laugh.gif
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You're not testing on the sharpness, but the focus, you don't gave to get tack sharp image to know. Have you seen focus chart test done with f/1.4? You don't have to get tack sharp image to know the correct results; Plus if you're on tripod or the camera is steady, the image are sharp enough. I don't know what definition or what you're looking for.
Focus test is to test which part is in focus, not which part is sharpest, unless you can't differentiate which part is out of focus and which part is in focus.

Anyway, to each his own; You may have different kind of test compared with others, but generally, if you check around, the test are usually done at widest aperture and there is nothing to do with super sharp image, or mention about how sharp it is. But then, this is just a test, you may have your own kind of test, while another person have another.
No point arguing whose test is correct, the main reason for this test is to find out whether there is any focusing problem, as in front or back focusing, where you focus on let's say the eye, but the nose gets the focus instead. Stopping down 1 stop might not have this problem because both the eye and nose might already in focus, so you wouldn't have know.

ANYWAY, this is how I tested before and what I've read on those test.
OR, as the video I posted previously, (if you actually watched it), the video did test on VARIOUS apertures. So, why stop it down 1 stop, test on widest apertures and stop it down icon_rolleyes.gif
Want to test, do proper test and extensively.

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You're not testing on the sharpness, but the focus, you don't gave to get tack sharp image to know. Have you seen focus chart test done with f/1.4? You don't have to get tack sharp image to know the correct results; Plus if you're on tripod or the camera is steady, the image are sharp enough. I don't know what definition or what you're looking for.
Focus test is to test which part is in focus, not which part is sharpest, unless you can't differentiate which part is out of focus and which part is in focus.

Anyway, to each his own; You may have different kind of test compared with others, but generally, if you check around, the test are usually done at widest aperture and there is nothing to do with super sharp image, or mention about how sharp it is. But then, this is just a test, you may have your own kind of test, while another person have another.
No point arguing whose test is correct, the main reason for this test is to find out whether there is any focusing problem, as in front or back focusing, where you focus on let's say the eye, but the nose gets the focus instead. Stopping down 1 stop might not have this problem because both the eye and nose might already in focus, so you wouldn't have know.

ANYWAY, this is how I tested before and what I've read on those test.
OR, as the video I posted previously, (if you actually watched it), the video did test on VARIOUS apertures. So, why stop it down 1 stop, test on widest apertures and stop it down  icon_rolleyes.gif
Want to test, do proper test and extensively.
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What I mean is when you put it on the widest aperture the whole image is often just blurred and too soft. When it is so, it is really hard to tell whether there is any front or back focus(as the focus point and the front and back of the points are too soft and blur to see), even the video you suggested saying so that the widest aperture has the soft image, so it is always recommend to drop 1 f-stop as to maintain the shallow DOF but have sharper image(meaning clearer result on the test chart instead of the whole image came out just blur).(and this is for the battery test and the test chart)

While your video is just looking at the diet coke bottle, it is a totally different kind of test, you can't use the minimum aperture to do the test chart as the whole chart would come out tack sharp therefore unable to tell the focus problem, while the maximum is often too soft too hence the 1 stop lower aperture to do the focus chart test and battery test.

Not to correct you or anything just my own experience as most lenses have soft image at their widest aperture and when the whole focus chart came out soft and hazy how can one tell the focus problem(back and front focus lens if shoot at the coke diet bottle would give you soft focus image while a faultless lens on the widest aperture will show a soft and hazy coke bottle too, does it mean the lens has focus problem, not really just that you need to lower down your aperture to test it), you need to at least get the focus point sharp to the extent it is distinctive enough while remaining a shallow depth of field. I know technically you should do it at the widest aperture to narrow down the DOF but no lens can avoid the soft image at their widest aperture.

And I don't mean to argue just as my own experience I find it easier to read with when lower down the aperture. icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm not here to prove anything, just wanna share my experience. smile.gif


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What I mean is when you put it on the widest aperture the whole image is often just blurred and too soft. When it is so, it is really hard to tell whether there is any front or back focus(as the focus point and the front and back of the points are too soft and blur to see), even the video you suggested saying so that the widest aperture has the soft image, so it is always recommend to drop 1 f-stop as to maintain the shallow DOF but have sharper image(meaning clearer result on the test chart instead of the whole image came out just blur).(and this is for the battery test and the test chart)

While your video is just looking at the diet coke bottle, it is a totally different kind of test, you can't use the minimum aperture to do the test chart as the whole chart would come out tack sharp therefore unable to tell the focus problem, while the maximum is often too soft too hence the 1 stop lower aperture to do the focus chart test and battery test.

Not to correct you or anything just my own experience as most lenses have soft image at their widest aperture and when the whole focus chart came out soft and hazy how can one tell the focus problem(back and front focus lens if shoot at the coke diet bottle would give you soft focus image while a faultless lens on the widest aperture will show a soft and hazy coke bottle too, does it mean the lens has focus problem, not really just that you need to lower down your aperture to test it), you need to at least get the focus point sharp to the extent it is distinctive enough while remaining a shallow depth of field. I know technically you should do it at the widest aperture to narrow down the DOF but no lens can avoid the soft image at their widest aperture.

And I don't mean to argue just as my own experience I find it easier to read with when lower down the aperture. icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm not here to prove anything, just wanna share my experience.  smile.gif
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So, if really want to test, can do as the video suggested, test at various aperture. Each lens has it's weak point at different aperture, while most can get sharper image when stop down, but some need to stop down to f/4 or f/5.6, so it's hard to judge how one determine sharpness. When I check focus, I don't pixel peep on sharpness, you don't actually not even need to zoom to tell if there is front or back focusing problem at wide apertures like f/1.4 or f/1.8, which are prime lens; how do it put it, it's pretty obvious especially on focus chart. For non-focus chart, I think it's still quite obvious as most people can tell where the focus point was on the eye, but the focus is not on the eye but on the nose. This most happen at very wide aperture like f/1.4 or f/1.8. With smaller aperture, this problem hardly persist.

Anyway, no harm to test at different apertures if one is doing the testing; better to test more than to test less. icon_rolleyes.gif

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What I mean is when you put it on the widest aperture the whole image is often just blurred and too soft. When it is so, it is really hard to tell whether there is any front or back focus(as the focus point and the front and back of the points are too soft and blur to see), even the video you suggested saying so that the widest aperture has the soft image, so it is always recommend to drop 1 f-stop as to maintain the shallow DOF but have sharper image(meaning clearer result on the test chart instead of the whole image came out just blur).(and this is for the battery test and the test chart)

While your video is just looking at the diet coke bottle, it is a totally different kind of test, you can't use the minimum aperture to do the test chart as the whole chart would come out tack sharp therefore unable to tell the focus problem, while the maximum is often too soft too hence the 1 stop lower aperture to do the focus chart test and battery test.

Not to correct you or anything just my own experience as most lenses have soft image at their widest aperture and when the whole focus chart came out soft and hazy how can one tell the focus problem(back and front focus lens if shoot at the coke diet bottle would give you soft focus image while a faultless lens on the widest aperture will show a soft and hazy coke bottle too, does it mean the lens has focus problem, not really just that you need to lower down your aperture to test it), you need to at least get the focus point sharp to the extent it is distinctive enough while remaining a shallow depth of field. I know technically you should do it at the widest aperture to narrow down the DOF but no lens can avoid the soft image at their widest aperture.

And I don't mean to argue just as my own experience I find it easier to read with when lower down the aperture. icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm not here to prove anything, just wanna share my experience.  smile.gif
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ur theory seems like messed up..

dof is like a line.. its a DEPTH... so it need to be 45 degree...

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DOF of 4.0


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drool.gif D800 D800 D800~

Let's see what Nikon has to offer, tempting enough to jump to D800 or not keke.
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drool.gif D800 D800 D800~

Let's see what Nikon has to offer, tempting enough to jump to D800 or not keke.
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Change la  laugh.gif
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drool.gif D800 D800 D800~

Let's see what Nikon has to offer, tempting enough to jump to D800 or not keke.
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The improvement will be tremendous i presume. Just look at D90 and D7000. So yesterday and today's technology differences wink.gif
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Just got D700 less than 1 month. will see what are the improvements, or else stick with D700
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Jan 27 2011, 09:12 AM)
The improvement will be tremendous i presume. Just look at D90 and D7000. So yesterday and today's technology differences  wink.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 09:24 AM)
Same here, we got it almost the same time  laugh.gif .
If it is that much, sure jump  drool.gif . But if you tell me something like D3 and D3s, I'll skip it.
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Surely better than D3s one. D7000's iso performance also stand not far away behind D3s already what, whats the point of making another camera which has the same capability like D3s already?
But dunno have to wait D4 or not 1st, because D700's engine actually came from D3 if I'm not mistaken, so can say D700 and D3 is damn similar one.

There's possibility that we might have to wait D4 then only D800 come out also. Hard to say. cry.gif
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What I mean is, if the improvement is like D90 -> D7000 then I will jump. But if it is D3 -> D3s type of improvement then I will skip it. Not saying that D800 performs like D3s lol.

D700 using exact same sensor as D3, also the same engine. That's why I didn't bother going for D3.
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pls pls D800 don come out so fast.....my D700 just 4 months nia....>.<
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pls pls D800 don come out so fast.....my D700 just 4 months nia....>.<
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 09:34 AM)
What I mean is, if the improvement is like D90 -> D7000 then I will jump. But if it is D3 -> D3s type of improvement then I will skip it. Not saying that D800 performs like D3s lol.

D700 using exact same sensor as D3, also the same engine. That's why I didn't bother going for D3.
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don't worry la...as long as sony doesn't comes out with a new body nikon won't either...unless nikon starts to make their own sensors...
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Nikon is making sensors for D700, D3s, D3 and D3100
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Just found out that D700 sensor is developed by Nikon, not Sony
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Where did this information come from?

But then again, I didn't see any 12MP FX sensor from Sony (D3 and D700). The only sensor I know using Sony is the D3x's 24.5MP (A900).
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 09:50 AM)
Where did this information come from?

But then again, I didn't see any 12MP FX sensor from Sony (D3 and D700). The only sensor I know using Sony is the D3x's 24.5MP (A900).
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here
http://nikonrumors.com/2011/01/26/the-sens...n.aspx#comments

P/S: D90 and D7000 are using Sony sensor though
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Nikon is making sensors for D700, D3s, D3 and D3100
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i think the D700 shares the same sensor as the D3 and D3s... while D3100 should share the sensor with D90...
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i think the D700 shares the same sensor as the D3 and D3s... while D3100 should share the sensor with D90...
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i think the D700 shares the same sensor as the D3 and D3s... while D3100 should share the sensor with D90...
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D3 and D3s's sensor are different. D3100 sensor is 14.2mp, D90 12mp only, how can they be the same?
D3100 using Sony NEX sensor though if not mistaken.
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i think the D700 shares the same sensor as the D3 and D3s... while D3100 should share the sensor with D90...
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Nikon doesn't "make" their own sensors. AFAIK Nikon doesn't own a fab. Nikon designs the sensors and Sony makes them. For the other sensors Nikon buys Sony's design.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 08:42 AM)
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Let's see what Nikon has to offer, tempting enough to jump to D800 or not keke.
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12mega pixel to 24 plus video recording. tempting la bro. brows.gif

QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Jan 27 2011, 09:31 AM)
Surely better than D3s one. D7000's iso performance also stand not far away behind D3s already what, whats the point of making another camera which has the same capability like D3s already?
But dunno have to wait D4 or not 1st, because D700's engine actually came from D3 if I'm not mistaken, so can say D700 and D3 is damn similar one.

There's possibility that we might have to wait D4 then only D800 come out also. Hard to say. cry.gif
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12mega pixel to 24 plus video recording. tempting la bro.  brows.gif
yeah if not mistaken the forumer (CY) said they share the same sensor.
Will nikon announce replacement of D300s as well?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jan 27 2011, 10:32 AM)
almost certainly there will be D300s repalcement soon
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Jan 27 2011, 10:32 AM)
almost certainly there will be D300s repalcement soon
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Added on January 27, 2011, 11:10 ambro IQ-wise 1855 VR and 1870 IF-ED which one is better?

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hopefully it's going to be 'high jump' like D90.  brows.gif
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Most thing from D7000 will be there. 2016, new sensor, new AF module and etc wink.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 27 2011, 11:14 AM)
Most thing from D7000 will be there. 2016, new sensor, new AF module and etc wink.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 27 2011, 11:14 AM)
Most thing from D7000 will be there. 2016, new sensor, new AF module and etc wink.gif
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AF module is the one that is interesting. Wonder what new system will Nikon introduce for their FX line up.
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guys if you have kit lens 18-55 and so happen you bought wide converter with a high price (e.g RM700) <- silly me.
and I am thinking to grab 17-50 tamron. what will you do? will you sell it 1st then use your tamron only (knowing the fact kit lens is good for wide angle) or you will keep both one for wide combo plus wide converter and another one tamron for normal purpose lens?
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Option 1, use Tamron only. I don't think you would even use the 1855 once you get the Tamron.
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If you shoot raw, your raw file will have none of those settings applied. The first thing you will notice if you do shoot raw is... there is NO NOISE REDUCTION applied. So,... yea, you have more things to PP.
Nope, the bigger the aperture, the easier to know the problem. The smaller aperture will have more in focus, covers more depth, so it's harder to tell.

If you want to do proper focus test, you will need to use tripod and do serious test to know. For basic test without tripod, you can put the camera on the table, line up the batteries, or put a book with wordings 45 degrees, etc. open to the widest aperture and focus and shoot, make sure the camera and object doesn't move. Take several shots, review the pictures and see.

Example:

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C = Camera
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If you're handholding and shooting in f/1.4 or 1/1.8, you might not doing it properly where you or the camera might have moved just a little and the actual focus depth/plane changed when you press/release the shutter, resulting in inaccurate test.

If you have time, watch this video tutorial and how this guy test:
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Glad you mentioned about this !

I never know noise reduction is not applicable when shooting in RAW.

Thanks !
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 11:41 AM)
Option 1, use Tamron only. I don't think you would even use the 1855 once you get the Tamron.
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That's what I doubt as well. but selling them is a very hard task. doh.gif
anyway CY. do you think VR in range of 17-50 is a necessity?

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Hmm, I don't have any lens with that range. My experience with 2470 does not require VR.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 11:52 AM)
Hmm, I don't have any lens with that range. My experience with 2470 does not require VR.
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Typo. I mean 17-50. Considering tamron between VC and non-VC.
since 24-70 VR is not required. I will go for non-VC instead. selling kitty yay rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 11:50 AM)
That's what I doubt as well. but selling them is a very hard task.  doh.gif
anyway CY. do you think VR in range of 17-50 is a necessity?
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Try to search dpreview forum and photomalaysia see. Some said yes some said no. Ask Kent lo he is using. =D
I see Canon thread, they got discussed about it before.

Im using D3100 , but i wont get tamron 17-50 f2.8 at least for now because i like prime ><"

For wide angle i would go for 10-24mm nikkor for non-autofocus motor

For DX like d90 i would go for tokia 11-16

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 11:41 AM)
Option 1, use Tamron only. I don't think you would even use the 1855 once you get the Tamron.
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Me too . tamron 17-50 can replace you kit len d. IMO

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 27 2011, 12:15 PM)
Try to search dpreview forum and photomalaysia see. Some said yes some said no. Ask Kent lo he is using. =D
I see Canon thread, they got discussed about it before.

Im using D3100 , but i wont get tamron 17-50 f2.8 at least for now because i like prime ><"

For wide angle i would go for 10-24mm nikkor for non-autofocus motor

For DX like d90 i would go for tokia 11-16


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Try to search dpreview forum and photomalaysia see. Some said yes some said no. Ask Kent lo he is using. =D
I see Canon thread, they got discussed about it before.

Im using D3100 , but i wont get tamron 17-50 f2.8

For wide angle i would go for 10-24mm nikkor for non-autofocus motor

For DX like d90 i would go for tokia 11-16
Me too . tamron 17-50 can replace you kit len d. IMO
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yeah I also like prime but you can't shoot only with 50mm prime don't you?
moreover budget-wise prime is far more costly.
I am waiting for kent to pop-up tongue.gif hahaha..
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 11:57 AM)
Typo. I mean 17-50. Considering tamron between VC and non-VC.
since 24-70 VR is not required. I will go for non-VC instead. selling kitty yay  rclxm9.gif
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Rumor says the VC ver has better optic quality.
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I'm using VC n I love it.... haha..... VC vs non-VC, I would juz grab the VC coz of the function, don care sharpness 1st, juz try handheld indoor without high iso, shoot on some words at distance n see flex.gif
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The D800 or whatever it is called has to have tremendous upgrade from it's predecessor D700 as rumors have it saying the Canon 5D mark3 has 28m mega pixels, less noise on high ISO, improved metering, improved AF system and accepting SD card. So Nikon may have to raise their own bars to in order to compete in the full frame business.

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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jan 27 2011, 12:34 PM)
I'm using VC n I love it.... haha..... VC vs non-VC, I would juz grab the VC coz of the function, don care sharpness 1st, juz try handheld indoor without high iso, shoot on some words at distance n see  flex.gif
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can't some1 shoot in indoor without VC? I thought bumb the ISO will do. especially you have D7000. up to ISO 6400 still good.
why even bother about VC?

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My zoom lens all has VR tongue.gif, only lens without VR is primes for me biggrin.gif.
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how about wide-angle lens?
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can't some1 shoot in indoor without VC? I thought bumb the ISO will do. especially you have D7000. up to ISO 6400 still good.
why even bother about VC?
how about wide-angle lens?
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can't some1 shoot in indoor without VC? I thought bumb the ISO will do. especially you have D7000. up to ISO 6400 still good.
why even bother about VC?
how about wide-angle lens?
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I think the problem is about the focal length. The longer the focal length, the greater the shake will affect the image and thru your viewfinder it is as if there are some earthquake going on. laugh.gif

But below 60mm I think it is still ok without any IS/VR/VC, haven't tried any telephoto lens without VR tho. whistling.gif
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Its better if you go to the shops and try the VC and Non VC lens, see which one works best for you. Different people different requirement, some need it and some dont. For me VR/VC/OS or whatever its called are always welcome.
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 27 2011, 01:07 PM)
I think the problem is about the focal length. The longer the focal length, the greater the shake will affect the image and thru your viewfinder it is as if there are some earthquake going on. laugh.gif

But below 60mm I think it is still ok without any IS/VR/VC, haven't tried any telephoto lens without VR tho.  whistling.gif
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that the reason I doubt having VC in tammy 1750 is essential as it's maximum range is only 50mm.
moreover VC version seems less sharp
http://thrillmere.com/2010/09/tamron-17-50...-vc-comparison/


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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 27 2011, 01:09 PM)
Its better if you go to the shops and try the VC and Non VC lens, see which one works best for you. Different people different requirement, some need it and some dont. For me VR/VC/OS or whatever its called are always welcome.
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thanks for the input bro. I think I will grab tammy 1750 non-VC instead. but let's see.

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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 27 2011, 01:09 PM)
Its better if you go to the shops and try the VC and Non VC lens, see which one works best for you. Different people different requirement, some need it and some dont. For me VR/VC/OS or whatever its called are always welcome.
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Try without VC above 100mm, hahahaha, earthquake! and it is super hard to focus on your subject as the view in viewfinder keep on bouncing even if you have steady hand as the long focal length magnifies the shake.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 01:11 PM)
that the reason I doubt having VC in tammy 1750 is essential as it's maximum range is only 50mm.
moreover VC version seems less sharp
http://thrillmere.com/2010/09/tamron-17-50...-vc-comparison/


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thanks for the input bro. I think I will grab tammy 1750 non-VC instead. but let's see.
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imo, if u need VC just go for it.
it may be slightly less sharp, but to most ppl if they dont compare wont notice the diff...not as if the pics going to national geographic anyway tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 27 2011, 01:13 PM)
Try without VC above 100mm, hahahaha, earthquake! and it is super hard to focus on your subject as the view in viewfinder keep on bouncing even if you have steady hand as the long focal length magnifies the shake.
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My Tokina 50-135mm doesnt have any kind of stabilization so i know the feeling first hand biggrin.gif

Summore imagine wearing a paintball mask which makes you barely see the viewfinder, its abit of a nightmare laugh.gif
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and yes u can bump to iso6400, but say for like nikon VR that can do 3-4 stops less, means at the same shutter and aperture u can use iso800...

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shooting indoor with mine sigma 28-300 without flash is a nightmare..
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shooting indoor with mine sigma 28-300 without flash is a nightmare..
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@Aldo get non VC i get VC LOL. =D

Anyway last time the len got VR meh ?? Ppl still able to shoot right ? Somemore yours range just between 17-50mm , if telephoto that different case lar

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 11:57 AM)
Typo. I mean 17-50. Considering tamron between VC and non-VC.
since 24-70 VR is not required. I will go for non-VC instead. selling kitty yay  rclxm9.gif
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Sell your kitty and get the Tamron, it's quite a vast difference having f/2.8 constant aperture and better optics. You can also consider the Sigma 18-50mm EX DC Macro, which provide some slight macro capability of 1:3 magnification, allows you to focus very very close.

As for VC, required or not, once you try you will know. Have you tested at Nikon BTS?
The 80-200mm f/2.8 is without VC, how do you think people shoot with that? The rule of thumb is to use the correct shutter speed, hold your camera properly.
You can try in Nikon BTS, with 80-200mm, at 200mm on DX, if you hold the camera properly, you will find that you can still get tack sharp images even at speed below 1/200, although you should be using ss over 1/300.

Another difference is... the lens. Try using the 55-200 or 55-300 lens, turn off VR, see how SHAKY it is, it's really bad... Then try the 70-300mm VR, turn off the VR, see how shaky it is.... You'll be thinking how can you hold it steady on those lens without VR....
Then... switch to 80-200mm.... see the difference in weight, build quality and BE AMAZED how it's not shaky compared to the lower end glass.
With FLASH, you can even go lower shutter speed as flash helps to freeze the motion a little. I've tested 1/30 @ 200mm and still get tack sharp images when viewed at 100%. The problem with such slow shutter speed is, movement may cause double vision kind of image, sort of like viewing those 3D picture without 3D glasses; this is when zoom in.

Of course, VR will help especially if you're shooting close up. Try to shoot the miniature model close up, you need to really hold it and set higher shutter speed. Close up shooting will require VR or unless you set high shutter speed but then your focusing will suffer if you're on wide aperture and you moved out of the focusing depth.
Try the 70-200mm VRII and be AMAZED what the VR can do... you can do close-up shot of the miniature and get clear and tack sharp images. I can even focus and get tack sharp image of the uncle inside the shop doing the Rotan thing, of the old lady hidden inside the hut at the padi field. Amazing... but dem the price! sweat.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 01:03 PM)
can't some1 shoot in indoor without VC? I thought bumb the ISO will do. especially you have D7000. up to ISO 6400 still good.
why even bother about VC?
how about wide-angle lens?
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VC good when doing close-up shoot as explain above. Or if you're at long focal length, you can lower your shutter speed to compensate for using lower iso in order to get the correct exposure.

Usually, try not to bump too much on the ISO unless required. But remember, getting wrongly exposed image will suffer more noise than higher ISO.
e.g. ISO800 incorrectly expose will have more noise than ISO1600 correctly exposed.
So, this also explains why some people complains that the ISO is not good, when in fact, they're not shooting right.


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IS/VC/VR/OS = useful when u ask someone to take picture of u (no tripod) ...hehe. if not ur picture blur without reason n u regretted it .. tongue.gif
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Usually when I ask someone else to take photo for me I bump ISO + shutter speed up. LOL, focusing point also enable all 51 ._.
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^^ Enable all the focus point one is very important laugh.gif
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Usually when I ask someone else to take photo for me I bump ISO + shutter speed up. LOL, focusing point also enable all 51 ._.
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Play safe. laugh.gif I the same like u except I lock the focus point to middle only.
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u need this if without VR... all for longer telephoto lenses.
so...start training or less smoking. hahahaha.

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u need this if without VR... all for longer telephoto lenses.
so...start training or less smoking. hahahaha.
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Play safe. laugh.gif I the same like u except I lock the focus point to middle only.
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Use center a few times they compose put the group at the side, but focus onto background zomg :S. Then kena shoot say why camera cannot detect -.- So usually enable all AF points. Sometimes I keep switching until sian lol, even me myself using 51AF haha. Scared my switch spoil :S.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 02:11 PM)
Use center a few times they compose put the group at the side, but focus onto background zomg :S. Then kena shoot say why camera cannot detect -.- So usually enable all AF points. Sometimes I keep switching until sian lol, even me myself using 51AF haha. Scared my switch spoil :S.
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Next time I must enable all AF points too. tongue.gif

Some people even ask me is my camera switched off? The screen shows nothing. biggrin.gif
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Haha! I got friend who goes like, why nothing on the screen? Then that time I just bought D700 don't know how to enable LV for them haha!
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QUOTE(gnome @ Jan 27 2011, 02:03 PM)
Hahaha COD player spotted! laugh.gif
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XD
how i wish i can have tat perk. built in VR
then i can consider change my focus screen into a crosshair. tongue.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 02:11 PM)
Use center a few times they compose put the group at the side, but focus onto background zomg :S. Then kena shoot say why camera cannot detect -.- So usually enable all AF points. Sometimes I keep switching until sian lol, even me myself using 51AF haha. Scared my switch spoil :S.
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i'm at lazy side...
i'm using all 51AF. lock focus to center.
focus & compose with AF-C on. tongue.gif
so i dun hav to fiddle around d setting so much.

unless i pass the DSLR to non-DSLR user.
i just tab it to AF-A focusing mode but still with all 51AF on.
at least they wont miss focus. smile.gif
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Oh using the 3D tracking? I don't use that because the non cross sensor not so accurate on my 85mm.
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hi guys,i'm still newbie with dslr.got some questions
1. does d3100 good enough for beginner like me?coz some of my fren give bad review bout it..i dont know if that the truth or the still judge d3100 based on d3000.
2.if d3100 does not good enough,can u guys recommend one below rm2500
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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Jan 27 2011, 03:22 PM)
hi guys,i'm still newbie with dslr.got some questions
1. does d3100 good enough for beginner like me?coz some of my fren give bad review bout it..i dont know if that the truth or the still judge d3100 based on d3000.
2.if d3100 does not good enough,can u guys recommend one below rm2500
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With your budget, it is good for you to go for D3100 and then get another budget flash like the nissin di-622.

Then you are good to go. smile.gif
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With your budget, it is good for you to go for D3100 and then get another budget flash like the nissin di-622.

Then you are good to go. smile.gif
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thx 4 da reply..so,is this camera has a lot of improvement in term of pics quality compared to d3000?i have read the review,but still cannot understand it.. sweat.gif
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thx 4 da reply..so,is this camera has a lot of improvement in term of pics quality compared to d3000?i have read the review,but still cannot understand it.. sweat.gif
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A lot as in which area. If for the ISO performance, yes. biggrin.gif Enough to justify for the price pay for the camera.
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thx 4 da reply..so,is this camera has a lot of improvement in term of pics quality compared to d3000?i have read the review,but still cannot understand it.. sweat.gif
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hi guys,i'm still newbie with dslr.got some questions
1. does d3100 good enough for beginner like me?coz some of my fren give bad review bout it..i dont know if that the truth or the still judge d3100 based on d3000.
2.if d3100 does not good enough,can u guys recommend one below rm2500
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i bet without vc, most of the pics would be unusable

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I awe it's ISO 6400.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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anyone experienced soft focus filter?
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Celciuz your Hoya HD got a small "v" at the middle of the glass or not ?

I dunno why mine got , or it is normal one ?

You use lenspen to clean ?


QUOTE(dacmo @ Jan 27 2011, 03:54 PM)
Actually it's quite an improvement over the D3000 which was pretty bad IMHO. But you have to judge for yourself whether it's going to be good enough for you. For RM2500, I would recommend a 2nd hand D90 kit. There should be plenty for sale these days.
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If got 2.5k , i would go for second hand D90, got built in motor , top lcd , features
No doubt , nikon d3100 is better than d3000

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Celciuz your Hoya HD got a small "v" at the middle of the glass or not ?

I dunno why mine got , or it is normal one ?

You use lenspen to clean ?
If got 2.5k , i would go for second hand D90, got built in motor , top lcd , features
No doubt , nikon d3100 is better than d3000
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Small V? what's that? My HD is just like a glass, what V ?
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Hmmm...thinking wanna got Nikon BTS to try a few lens and poison myself hmm.gif laugh.gif

or maybe to send my camera for service unsure.gif
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Hmmm...thinking wanna got Nikon BTS to try a few lens and poison myself hmm.gif  laugh.gif

or maybe to send my camera for service unsure.gif
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i tried out the 24-70, 85G & 105 Micro just 2 days back @ BTS & boy was i poisoned ... !!!

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Already played around with the 2470 since my friend own one, definitely gonna get it when i have the moolah laugh.gif

The 85mm 1.4G is too far out of my reach so no point testing tongue.gif. Thinking of trying the 60 or 105 micro and maybe 80-200mm F2.8 hmm.gif
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I knew it! everytime we said anything about 85G celciuz sure come and post a poison pic laugh.gif
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Im using D90 which has internal autofocus motor. Is it advisable to buy Nikon AF VR 80-400mm 1:4.5-5.6D?

Ill be using it for bird photography

or would it be better to get 1 of these?
Sigma APO 50-500mm F4.5-6.3 DG OS HSM
Sigma APO 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM

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Hmmm...has anyone tried using macro lens (60mm or 105mm F2.8) for portraits? hmm.gif
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Small V? what's that? My HD is just like a glass, what V ?
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I donno how to describe , i look through my glass , i not sure whether it got scratched or not , i got a small "v" symbol at the glass. I try to clean but it cannot disappear ><"

walao ... just now i go to camera shop and stare at the 85mm 1.4g N drool.gif drool.gif but i look at the price , i awake and "walk off".......


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hye there...can u all please recommend me any model as i am a newbie here...budget is around 1-2k...
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Check this

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1661126/+780

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 27 2011, 07:40 PM)
I donno how to describe , i look through my glass , i not sure whether it got scratched or not , i got a small "v" symbol at the glass. I try to clean but it cannot disappear ><"

walao ... just now i go to camera shop and stare at the 85mm 1.4g N  drool.gif  drool.gif  but i look at the price , i awake and "walk off".......


Added on January 27, 2011, 7:54 pm

Check this

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1661126/+780
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Don't think there should be a V...
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Don't think there should be a V...
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Alright thanks you. ><"


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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Jan 27 2011, 08:23 PM)
Alright thanks you. ><"
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 01:11 PM)
that the reason I doubt having VC in tammy 1750 is essential as it's maximum range is only 50mm.
moreover VC version seems less sharp
http://thrillmere.com/2010/09/tamron-17-50...-vc-comparison/


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thanks for the input bro. I think I will grab tammy 1750 non-VC instead. but let's see.
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I dare u challenge me with ur non-vc handheld indoor 50mm to shoot some products with words on it den u can see double image on yours brows.gif I can shoot at lower iso and get as sharp image, but u need to bump ur iso mayb two stops higher, so which produce cleaner image? u do the math.... don always see review, they put on tripod to do the testing, but for everyday use u don't bring ur tripod to ur dinner gathering always rite wink.gif


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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 27 2011, 02:00 PM)
Usually when I ask someone else to take photo for me I bump ISO + shutter speed up. LOL, focusing point also enable all 51 ._.
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I donno how to describe , i look through my glass , i not sure whether it got scratched or not , i got a small "v" symbol at the glass. I try to clean but it cannot disappear ><"
U really need to check properly, n I don think HD is so easily scratch summore nice shape v simbol=.=

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I dare u challenge me with ur non-vc handheld indoor 50mm to shoot some products with words on it den u can see double image on yours  brows.gif  I can shoot at lower iso and get as sharp image, but u need to bump ur iso mayb two stops higher, so which produce cleaner image? u do the math.... don always see review, they put on tripod to do the testing, but for everyday use u don't bring ur tripod to ur dinner gathering always rite  wink.gif


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Sometimes my auto focus miss ler when asking ppl to help shoot =.= sipeh sienz..... AF-A auto


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U really need to check properly, n I don think HD is so easily scratch summore nice shape v simbol=.=
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The tammy better or the sigma 17-50 f2.8? Double the price and is it worth it?
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The tammy better or the sigma 17-50 f2.8? Double the price and is it worth it?
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Ppl loves the Sigma for the silent motor, IQ wise I'm not sure, should b sharper also....
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anyone experienced soft focus filter?
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At 300mm is f/5.6? or f/6.3?  ohmy.gif
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guys, please choose between 80-200 and 70-200... and state ur reason... appreciate ur input..
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80-200 and you have plenty of cash left to get other primes.
70-200 if you think it's really that awesome and one lens can beat other primes tongue.gif
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i also would choose 80-200 since its cheaper...one day la when i get more money tongue.gif

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I will choose 70-200 n stop buying lens for 2 years, hahaa..... mayb I'm juz poisoned by the number of 70-200 icon_question.gif
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or perhaps 70-300? IQ wise?
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70-300 sorry la. Rather get 80-200
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70-300 VR is ok la, 2nd hand rm1.5k or less.
focuses faster than the 80-200...unless of cos its two touch version.
low light obviously suffers abit, but then all depends on ur needs.

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70-300 VR is ok la, 2nd hand rm1.5k or less.
focuses faster than the 80-200...unless of cos its two touch version.
low light obviously suffers abit, but then all depends on ur needs.
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I find it slow.
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Focus faster ? blink.gif
I find it slow.
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i tried both with the 80-200 one touch...
another person i know has tried 70-300VR with two touch...says almost the same.
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70-300 got one touch ?

One touch = push pull le.
And push pull 80-200 is the lousiest in 80-200 range hmm.gif
push pull cost less than 2k wink.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 27 2011, 11:32 PM)
70-300 got one touch ?

One touch = push pull le.
And push pull 80-200 is the lousiest in 80-200 range hmm.gif
push pull cost less than 2k wink.gif
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umm where did i say 70-300 got one touch?
i say i compare that with 80-200 one touch la...
now if someone somewhere will sell 80-200 AF-S for under rm3k...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 27 2011, 11:58 PM)
umm where did i say 70-300 got one touch?
i say i compare that with 80-200 one touch la...
now if someone somewhere will sell 80-200 AF-S for under rm3k...
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That's why I'm asking whether 70-300 got one touch lo. You're saying 70-300 two touch ma sleep.gif
Edit : misread

This is two touch of 80-200, AF-D
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/80200.htm

One touch 80-200, AF
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/80-200mm-f28-af.htm

And AF-S 80-200 isn't the one I'm referring to

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Sorry. Misread.
This is two touch of 80-200, AF-D
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/80200.htm
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ya i know, but still more than RM3k 2nd hand tongue.gif
got 1 guy on ftz selling the newer D version for rm3.5k...2mths old with local warranty.
pity tripod collar cannot be removed on that.

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So who's going to IT Fair tomorrow? tongue.gif

Also how much is 2nd hand 80-200mm two touch now days eh? hmm.gif
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So who's going to IT Fair tomorrow?  tongue.gif

Also how much is 2nd hand 80-200mm two touch now days eh? hmm.gif
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Which lens to buy when buying D7000?
1)kit lens 18-105mm VR
2)tamron 17-50mm f2.8 VC
3)sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 OS HSM Macro
4)others ?

looking for a good all-around lens and focal length is not a problem as I shoot mostly landscape, street photography and portrait. The Sigma 17-50 f2.8 would be better but it's out of my budget.
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Which lens to buy when buying D7000?
1)kit lens 18-105mm VR
2)tamron 17-50mm f2.8 VC
3)sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 OS HSM Macro
4)others ?

looking for a good all-around lens and focal length is not a problem as I shoot mostly landscape, street photography and portrait. The Sigma 17-50 f2.8 would be better but it's out of my budget.
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18-200 is ok for all rounder but lose IQ !

Anyway, dessert tongue.gif

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18-200 is ok for all rounder but lose IQ !
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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jan 27 2011, 08:31 PM)
I dare u challenge me with ur non-vc handheld indoor 50mm to shoot some products with words on it den u can see double image on yours  brows.gif  I can shoot at lower iso and get as sharp image, but u need to bump ur iso mayb two stops higher, so which produce cleaner image? u do the math.... don always see review, they put on tripod to do the testing, but for everyday use u don't bring ur tripod to ur dinner gathering always rite  wink.gif


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Sometimes my auto focus miss ler when asking ppl to help shoot =.= sipeh sienz..... AF-A auto


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U really need to check properly, n I don think HD is so easily scratch summore nice shape v simbol=.=
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Alright =) , see how after i clean
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got 35mmf2d of impulse buying. XD

die me.sleep.gif"
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got 35mmf2d of impulse buying. XD

die me.sleep.gif"
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how much ? brows.gif
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Almost same price like in M'sia biggrin.gif
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how much M'sia selling?

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1100 basically
today's SGD conversion rate at 1:2.38
I got mine slightly cheaper than 1100 wink.gif
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18-200 is ok for all rounder but lose IQ !

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 28 2011, 10:23 AM)
1100 basically
today's SGD conversion rate at 1:2.38
I got mine slightly cheaper than 1100 wink.gif
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oh. but i got it 2nd hand. sleep.gif"
is okay. 1 month old. just like new.
with metal hood and hoya filter. smile.gif

just start shooting and get over it. lolx.
nice prime for CNY casual outing with friends. in case i got drunk...
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post Jan 28 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(daze @ Jan 28 2011, 10:48 AM)
oh. but i got it 2nd hand. sleep.gif"
is okay. 1 month old. just like new.
with metal hood and hoya filter. smile.gif

just start shooting and get over it. lolx.
nice prime for CNY casual outing with friends. in case i got drunk...
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Still ok la with metal hood. I got free Hoya HMC but I never use tongue.gif

It's a lovely lens on DX.
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post Jan 28 2011, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(hkenh @ Jan 28 2011, 03:11 AM)
Which lens to buy when buying D7000?
1)kit lens 18-105mm VR
2)tamron 17-50mm f2.8 VC
3)sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 OS HSM Macro
4)others ?

looking for a good all-around lens and focal length is not a problem as I shoot mostly landscape, street photography and portrait. The Sigma 17-50 f2.8 would be better but it's out of my budget.
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4) Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 EX DC Macro HSM - around RM1.6K




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post Jan 28 2011, 12:28 PM

I was like LOL :D
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Tamron VC or Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 EX DC Macro HSM?
can some1 cite the + and -
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post Jan 28 2011, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 28 2011, 12:28 PM)
Tamron VC or Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 EX DC Macro HSM?
can some1 cite the + and -
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I like the IQ of Tamron but that AF sound is just shakehead.gif
and the Tamron from the reviews I read it hunts a lot in low light and that basically defeats the purpose of a fast lens.
And without OS for the sigma I think it will struggle to take good photos in low light isn't it. 17-50 f2.8 has OS but it's 1k more! laugh.gif
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post Jan 28 2011, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Jan 28 2011, 12:51 PM)
I like the IQ of Tamron but that AF sound is just  shakehead.gif
and the Tamron from the reviews I read it hunts a lot in low light and that basically defeats the purpose of a fast lens.
And without OS for the sigma I think it will struggle to take good photos in low light isn't it. 17-50 f2.8 has OS but it's 1k more! laugh.gif
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All depends on ur needs.
if u want to take pics of night scenery etc, then by all means the tamron can take all its time to hunt cos that building isnt running away.

but if u want to shoot ppl in events etc, no amt of OS/VR is going to help u...and faster focusing more important.

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