QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 11:57 AM)
Typo. I mean 17-50. Considering tamron between VC and non-VC.
since 24-70 VR is not required. I will go for non-VC instead. selling kitty yay

Sell your kitty and get the Tamron, it's quite a vast difference having f/2.8 constant aperture and better optics. You can also consider the Sigma 18-50mm EX DC Macro, which provide some slight macro capability of 1:3 magnification, allows you to focus very very close.
As for VC, required or not, once you try you will know. Have you tested at Nikon BTS?
The 80-200mm f/2.8 is without VC, how do you think people shoot with that? The rule of thumb is to use the correct shutter speed, hold your camera properly.
You can try in Nikon BTS, with 80-200mm, at 200mm on DX, if you hold the camera properly, you will find that you can still get tack sharp images even at speed below 1/200, although you should be using ss over 1/300.
Another difference is... the lens. Try using the 55-200 or 55-300 lens, turn off VR, see how SHAKY it is, it's really bad... Then try the 70-300mm VR, turn off the VR, see how shaky it is.... You'll be thinking how can you hold it steady on those lens without VR....
Then... switch to 80-200mm.... see the difference in weight, build quality and BE AMAZED how it's not shaky compared to the lower end glass.
With FLASH, you can even go lower shutter speed as flash helps to freeze the motion a little. I've tested 1/30 @ 200mm and still get tack sharp images when viewed at 100%. The problem with such slow shutter speed is, movement may cause double vision kind of image, sort of like viewing those 3D picture without 3D glasses; this is when zoom in.
Of course, VR will help especially if you're shooting close up. Try to shoot the miniature model close up, you need to really hold it and set higher shutter speed. Close up shooting will require VR or unless you set high shutter speed but then your focusing will suffer if you're on wide aperture and you moved out of the focusing depth.
Try the 70-200mm VRII and be AMAZED what the VR can do... you can do close-up shot of the miniature and get clear and tack sharp images. I can even focus and get tack sharp image of the uncle inside the shop doing the Rotan thing, of the old lady hidden inside the hut at the padi field. Amazing... but dem the price!
QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jan 27 2011, 01:03 PM)
can't some1 shoot in indoor without VC? I thought bumb the ISO will do. especially you have D7000. up to ISO 6400 still good.
why even bother about VC?
how about wide-angle lens?
VC good when doing close-up shoot as explain above. Or if you're at long focal length, you can lower your shutter speed to compensate for using lower iso in order to get the correct exposure.
Usually, try not to bump too much on the ISO unless required. But remember, getting wrongly exposed image will suffer more noise than higher ISO.
e.g. ISO800 incorrectly expose will have more noise than ISO1600 correctly exposed.
So, this also explains why some people complains that the ISO is not good, when in fact, they're not shooting right.
This post has been edited by Andy214: Jan 27 2011, 01:59 PM