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post Sep 15 2004, 12:34 PM, updated 20y ago

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There have been way too many of these threads lately, and somehow nobody wants to ask the question in one common thread; so here is one.

Distro Home Page
Debian
Fedora
Gentoo
Knoppix
Lycoris
Mandrake
Mandriva
SlackWare
SUSE
Trustix Secure
TurboLinux
Ubuntu

Download links
Redhat 1.0 to 9.0

Additional info
Threads like which linux to choose and related stuff will be merged into this pinned thread.

Cheers

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On a side note, Theo De Raadt of the OpenBSD project will be arriving on the 1st of October for the HITB SecConf04 which will be running from October 4th to 7th at the Westin, KL.
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The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux.

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I know some of you might be annoyed with this but I'd like to buy a book on Red Hat Linux... What's the latest Red Hat + Fedora version release?

Any book you guys can recommend for beginners? SAMs or etc?
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i'm kinda non-linux user but interested to use one.... it'll be great if someone write a simple intro. yes i know its available on certain sites eg, distrowatch.com but it'll great if we can share info too.. =) hehhe
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http://www.linuxiso.org/
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post Sep 29 2004, 08:59 AM

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I've been using Xandros Desktop Standard Edition for quite sometime.

http://www.xandros.com/

the cd is bundled with PC Authority MAG ... so it's free.

but you can also use it by downloading the Open Circulation by using Bittorrent at here (free) : http://www.xandros.com/products/home/deskt...c_download.html
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if you are located inside malaysia and wants a fast download, go to www.asiaosc.org. I downloaded Mandrake 10 from there. Quite fast...Well..at least faster than the other mirrors.
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as a newbie in UNIX-based system, am i advisible to use FreeBSD? or i'll just stick with newbie driven distro such as mandrake and SUSE? suggestion needed
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actually i started off trying knoppix to see whether i like it or not... then i downloaded mandrake and still stuck in my hdd, haven't install yet. but i've tried suse 9.1 personal... not bad actually. simple to install too...
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just to inform you guys that fedora core 3 already released
check the link in first post
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I am a die hard fan of Debian and Slackware. Ocassionly I still keep in touch with FreeBSD and Fedora Core. Any Debian fans out here.
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yups, i'm a Debian fan too. although i don't contribute to it yet, i still evangelise it whenever possible smile.gif
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QUOTE(samuraiKidz @ Nov 7 2004, 05:01 PM)
as a newbie in UNIX-based system, am i advisible to use FreeBSD? or i'll just stick with newbie driven distro such as mandrake and SUSE? suggestion needed
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fbsd is easier for a lot of people who are used to DOS smile.gif plus there's a really thick manual and it's free smile.gif
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Check this site :

http://sourceforge.net/projects/winik/

This distro make by local ppl.
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i'd join the league of linux.

suse here ..
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QUOTE(debiankl @ Dec 21 2004, 01:36 PM)
I am a die hard fan of Debian and Slackware.  Ocassionly  I still keep in touch with FreeBSD and Fedora Core.  Any Debian fans out here.
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Count me in! smile.gif Been using it for quite some time, it was my main desktop OS until I got sucked into the dark side that is Mac OS X laugh.gif

Now i still run it on a spare box that is used mainly for Bittorrenting and side project development .. in the planning stages of a special project for LYN forumers! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(debiankl @ Dec 21 2004, 01:36 PM)
I am a die hard fan of Debian and Slackware.  Ocassionly  I still keep in touch with FreeBSD and Fedora Core.  Any Debian fans out here.
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Another Debian fan here. Been using it for ages.

I have downloaded and installed SUSE 9.1 Pro with KDE.
I have also downloaded Mandrake 10.1.
If anyone needs a copy, just march up to my place with a few blanks.

Just to keep up, I installed and tried Suse. Will try Mandrake next.

Anyone wants to log in to try Suse. More than happy to create some user accounts.

Sounds like a good idea!!.
People who are keen in having a look/try Linux, you can download VNC onto your windows machine. Use VNC to remote access and try Linux.



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Its great to hear tht so many ppl r interested in Linux, I'm one of them infact I'm doing a project on Linux therefore may I know where can I find any online poll tht shows the popularity between the different type of linux used in the market nowadays so tht I can create my own graph for my project ... thx for the help ... ^^

I choose SuSe , better inteface and customization.
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QUOTE(debiankl @ Dec 21 2004, 01:36 PM)
I am a die hard fan of Debian and Slackware.  Ocassionly  I still keep in touch with FreeBSD and Fedora Core.  Any Debian fans out here.
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Another Debian fans here biggrin.gif But I am currently using Knoppix modified version, I install Knoppix into my laptop and use apt-get update some of my package which follow Debian Sarge. Because I lazy to re-install my Debian Sarge thru network which spend me 3~ 4 hours to download.



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hi ... linux noob here ..
tried previous distro b4 ( red hat, suse ) but somehow i deleted them after a few tries ... maybe due to unfamiliarity to install hardware drivers in linux environment .... now i wanna tried linux again and wanna know which distro is more user friendly and maybe closed to windows environment ?


note : im very noob in linux .. sad.gif . hope this time i will like linux

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i heard that debian & redhat is the most stabil distro.......(dunno right or not),but i recommend mandrake or redhat for new user because it is user-friendly......& use virtual pc or vmware to install linux on windows platform will be better
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Here we go...

RedHat Enterprise Linux 3
Fedora Core 3
Damn Small Linux
Knoppix

These are the main ones I'm using.

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gentoo.. slackware.. fedora... knoppix... debian..

others... i don't use...
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Hey there fellas. CentOS and Ubuntu are worth a try. I use gentoo biggrin.gif

.. we're gonna have much less of those distro-picking threads from now, unless they are constructive.
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gentoo or debian imo, tedious installation, enjoy the goodness of portage and apt-get later.. thumbup.gif
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Anyone ever used CentOS? I recently talked to a System Integrator and I was informed that CentOS is a 99% clone of Red Hat Server Enterprise. Anyone would like to help me clarify if this piece of information is true or a fake?
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this is a pure newbie question. but since can't find anywhere in the forum, i'd like to ask, which distro/version is suitable for an old and slow machine? < 1.0ghz and 128mb ram. any recommendation for linux distro that will run at smoothly?


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jun 16 2005, 11:21 PM)
this is a pure newbie question. but since can't find anywhere in the forum, i'd like to ask,  which distro/version is suitable for an old and slow machine? < 1.0ghz and 128mb ram. any recommendation for linux distro that will run at smoothly?
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Hey there.
If you have a lot of patience, sure, we can run any of the distro above.
All the PC here at my site are running at the speed less than 1ghz and ram = 128 ghz, some of them are running FC3, some running Centos...
It is running quite smooth too.. I must say..

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this is my linux that i install

user posted image
FC 3 my office computer well for apache it's work fine
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SLES 9staff computer look nice izzit like windows XP
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Linspire live cd it took me 10 days download using that bittorent huh

i already try all but then i think for freebies better u guys using Suse 9.3 more friendly i did using mandriva also like linspire and what they say they want to merge with linspire yupp it's friendly also xandros i like the crossover office software very handy but then xandros that i'm used is demo version so some problem and bug for linspire good interface stable...
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what distro? so many? should i stick to FC? thanks

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I tried:
1. Red Had Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 8.0, 9.0 -> FC1, FC2, FC3, FC4
2. Gentoo
3. Slackware
4. Linspire
5. Ubuntu
6. SUSE Enterprise Server, Profesional 8.0, 9.0
7. Mandrake 8.0, 9.1, 10.0
8. TopologiLinux

Overall, i am now using Slackware

Why?
1. Simple
2. Stable and Reliabe
3. I can play MP3, watch MOVIES even in .WMV format
4. Recompile kernel easily
5. Easy software installation with simple tarball *.tgz
6. I can configure servers (TFTP, FTP, DHCP, FIREWALL, .... within minutes)
7. Good for software development.
8.Fast
9. Customizability
10. NTFS & FAT32 is enabled


What it sucks:
1. No PAM (they claim PAM to have some flaws)
2. No GRUB (LILO is only available)
3. Kernel 2.4.xx ? ( Why don't they use kernel 2.6.12.x straight? I have to compile it myself)
4. Why no Proxy Server package provided.
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Just wanted to share this small site where they help you choose waht's suitable for you.

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recommend newcomers try out liveCDs first (eg, gnoppix/ubuntu live for gnome desktops, knoppix/kanotix for kde, and elive for enlightment desktops), and make your way from there.


I see too many l33t wannabes trying to install debian from netinst without even knowing how to use the command line, much less get apt-get started...
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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 17 2005, 07:34 AM)
Hey there.
If you have a lot of patience, sure, we can run any of the distro above.
All the PC here at my site are running at the speed less than 1ghz and ram = 128 ghz, some of them are running FC3, some running Centos...
It is running quite smooth too.. I must say..
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low hardware requirement is one of the best part of unix blood platform.

i run FC4 and RH9

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no linux distro are perfect, i think most distro can't compete with commercial available os as it's just open source.
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Commercial products is no close from perfect, thats why open source was born.

Anyway I'm still sticking with Slackware for 7 years - simplicity smile.gif
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just got ubuntu with super-G wifi and most of the power management features working on my laptop. also a hack for the widescreen. took me 2 days but now i'm not a linux n00b anymore lol.
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hello, kinda noob here, but i just donwloaded FC-4 and im planning to install in on a 400mhz PC to make it a pure linux PC. got a few questions tho...

is 320MB RAM and 4GB harddisk enough to install and run the OS properly?? gonna plan to use it mainly for surfing and maybe running it as a home server.

wanna learn how to use the software as i heard its stable...thanks ya smile.gif
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QUOTE(gavan @ Sep 25 2005, 12:50 PM)
hello, kinda noob here, but i just donwloaded FC-4 and im planning to install in on a 400mhz PC to make it a pure linux PC. got a few questions tho...

is 320MB RAM and 4GB harddisk enough to install and run the OS properly?? gonna plan to use it mainly for surfing and maybe running it as a home server.

wanna learn how to use the software as i heard its stable...thanks ya :)
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i think that is more than enough unless you install all applications ..even now i'm still running FC2 on Pentium 3 192MB ram with 5GB of old hardisk. ...running on TWM env (almost 2 years already).
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QUOTE(strace @ Sep 24 2005, 09:43 AM)
Commercial products is no close from perfect, thats why open source was born.

Anyway I'm still sticking with Slackware for 7 years - simplicity smile.gif
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QUOTE(biatche @ Apr 8 2005, 01:00 PM)
Hey there fellas. CentOS and Ubuntu are worth a try. I use gentoo biggrin.gif

.. we're gonna have much less of those distro-picking threads from now, unless they are constructive.
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yup CemtOS is enterprize linux, very good, just directly clone from RHEL the different is one for free another one need to pay.

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QUOTE(mhchai45 @ Sep 23 2005, 03:38 PM)
no linux distro are perfect, i think most distro can't compete with commercial available os as it's just open source.
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friend, maybe you can check with your ISP or HSP that what system they used to provide service, expecially ISP. post back here the answers they give u, so we can know what commercial so called prefect software they used.

ohh did i smell UNIX?
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for my desktop, i use mandriva 2006 and for my laptop, i use PClinuxOS.... both distros impressed my.... smile.gif... i've been using mandriva since mandrake 7.2 till now....
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End of the day, Linux is Linux so whatever distro you're using all have pros and cons. The most notable pro of all, linux still run smooth on old moyang hardware thumbup.gif

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can i ask.. how to install windows + SUSE 9.3
i choose expert mode in pertition.
and .. wanna change that linux swap ??

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QUOTE(Navigator @ Jan 9 2006, 10:21 PM)
can i ask.. how to install windows + SUSE 9.3
i choose expert mode in pertition.
and .. wanna change that linux swap ??
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Err. I don't really get you.
What do you mean?
You mean the size of the swap?
Or.. location of the swap?

Usually the size of the swap space is double the amount of RAM. But nowadays most of us have like 1GB of RAM so double the amount of RAM is not necessary anymore.

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emm.. nvm..
i dun know la how to install in one partition

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I'm not sure about Suse 9.3. But installation for Ubuntu + Windows is pretty easy. See the installation tutorial

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I am currently using URL=http://www/pclinuxos.com]PClinuxOS[/URL]

I would say this is the best distro for Linux newbies. It just works right out of the box:
- firefox
- songs
- movies
- office suite
- bittorrrent, amule

It is a perfect windows replacement for me.

You can use the Live CD to install the distro on your computer.
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QUOTE(gmhafiz @ Mar 11 2006, 03:47 PM)
I am currently using URL=http://www/pclinuxos.com]PClinuxOS[/URL]

I would say this is the best distro for Linux newbies. It just works right out of the box:
- firefox
- songs
- movies
- office suite
- bittorrrent, amule

It is a perfect windows replacement for me.

You can use the Live CD to install the distro on your computer.
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I tried Ubuntu and PClinuxOS and I have to say PClinuxOS is a newbie friendly, the installation is easier than Windows, it worked out of the box except for DVD library which requires a bit of small effort to get it working thanks to Synaptic manager. I don't know about technical stuffs such as kernel, advantages of debian based distros and such, but I know that PClinuxOS just simply works. I greatly recommend this as windows replacement for newbies.
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I used to be following RedHat since 6.x but when it moved to FC, the cycle was too fast to keep up with. It is ok if you are experimenting, but for companies maintaining linux servers, it is a tiresome job just to keep up.

Hence, ever since FC came up, CentOS seem to be my top choice in terms of compatibility and supportability. I must say, that I still prefer Linux over commercially available Sun Solaris and HP UX because I find that you can do more with Linux. Commercial *nix OS is good in terms of vendor support. If you need to run other commercial OS such as database like Oracle, Informix, etc, commercial *nix is still the best. Of couse it will cost a bomb and are generally not for home users.
FC seems to be too experimental for production use.

I'm also impressed with FreeBSD, quite superb in terms of speed. I'm using an old box with lousy hardware specs and FreeBSD seem to run quite well. But since I still like to stick to RPMs, I reverted back to CentOS. I still think it is easier to maintain.
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for secure os;
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If interested, buy a 2nd hdd and try out more if got time. at least u don't have to regret...
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Right now (at this moment) I'm trying the PCLinuxOS Live CD .... I should say this one should fairly easy to try. It's quite 'light' also. Even the Firefox load pages faster than Firefox in Windows.... the difference is noticable.
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isit possible 2 let linux read or run window base software...like games ...
or with extension is .exe??
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then i will be very very very lag rite?
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any opinions on Novell Linux Desktop?

I've got a near-dead WIndows XP HDD, and a friend tossed me a NLD 9.0 DVD. Was thinking of jumping ship into Linux.

Any opinions? Or any other recommendations should LND is not up to it?

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i have download ubuntu linux live cd (.iso), then i burn it using nero and make it as bootable disk...but i cannot boot it using my laptop...why ha...my friend said there is diiferent way to make bootable cd for linux... can someone help me about this
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Dont burn it as bootable cd.... just burn the image as normal. Coz if i not mistaken if u burn as bootable nero will add a certain file in there to make it bootable....

Correct me if im wrong. i nvr burn bootable disc before....

Last but not least pls DO read the documentation...... most linux distro got teach you one. Not sure abt ubuntu tho.....

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jun 28 2006, 04:32 AM)
any opinions on Novell Linux Desktop?

I've got a near-dead WIndows XP HDD, and a friend tossed me a NLD 9.0 DVD. Was thinking of jumping ship into Linux.

Any opinions? Or any other recommendations should LND is not up to it?

note: *never touched linux before*
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QUOTE(mie7 @ Jul 16 2006, 05:48 PM)
i have download ubuntu linux live cd (.iso), then i burn it using nero and make it as bootable disk...but i cannot boot it using my laptop...why ha...my friend said there is diiferent way to make bootable cd for linux... can someone help me about this
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You have to change the computer boot sequence in order to run the live CD.

This is how to do it.
Insert the live CD into your CD-ROM. Restart your computer, press and hold Del key. This will bring you to a blue screen setting page (eg. Phoenix-Award BIOS CMOS Setup Utiliy). Go to Advanced BIOS Features, press Enter, go to Boot Sequence, 1st Boot Device, select CD-ROM. Press Esc, exit to the main page. Go to Save & Exit Setup. After computer restart, Ubuntu logo will appear.

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Living the Ubuntu life over here... It was a surprisingly easy shift actually, for a linux newcomer (though I'm not technically PC illiterate myself)... thumbup.gif

Smooth sailing most of the way on my semi-old-ish Fujitsu C2220 Laptop, and everything works well out of the box (except for my touchpad scroll)... But in terms of media playback, the things you'll need to install would kill if you don't have a fast and stable net connection... Feeling the heat right now, as I'm on an unstable free wifi hotspot...

Can't wait to get back to my Screamyx back home (even if its buggy, at least the DL speed's stable)... Or maybe even try the seemingly zealot generating PCLinuxOS afterwards - seems like fun, though I kinda prefer GNOME to KDE as default install... rolleyes.gif

Lets see how things work out... icon_rolleyes.gif

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which distro is best for replacing an office desktop ?
mainly for office documents and emailing only, also small and simple one...

does PClinuxOS support openoffice ?
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can anybody tell me how 2 install software in fedora core 2.

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which distro is best for replacing an office desktop ?
mainly for office documents and emailing only, also small and simple one...

does PClinuxOS support openoffice ?
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get SUSE Linux 10.1...
it looks damn great, even hav d effects of Vista Aero minus d high
hardware requirements..tried it during PIKOM Software and Services showcase
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Dev desktop: Slackware 10.1 with custom-built 2.6.15 kernel and test 2.6 kernel support packages (too lazy to build and system test latest kernel), waiting for Slackware 11

Proxy server/firewall: RedHat 6.1 (cartman) with custom-built 2.2.22 kernel and a lot of custom packages

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QUOTE(badSeed @ Aug 22 2006, 04:26 PM)
get SUSE Linux 10.1...
it looks damn great, even hav d effects of Vista Aero minus d high
hardware requirements..tried it during PIKOM Software and Services showcase
at KL Convention Center last month

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totally agree with u... i tried it yesterday... pretty nice.... but the hardware requirments shakehead.gif
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my fav distro is debian.

for surfing i use damn small linux run on virtualbox .... thumbup.gif

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EasyUbuntu is an easy to use (duh!) script that gives the Ubuntu user the most commonly requested apps, codecs, and tweaks that are not found in the base distribution - all with a few clicks of your mouse.

EasyUbuntu is so easy to use in fact, that even your grandma could be playing encrypted dvds, streaming Windows Media, and sporting the latest Nvidia or Ati drivers in minutes! And yes, EasyUbuntu is GPL.

EasyUbuntu works on (X/K)ubuntu and on all the three architectures (x86, AMD64 and PPC).

http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
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Hey dude, I am one of Debian fan...nice to meet ya....

QUOTE(nsdin @ Jan 4 2005, 01:12 PM)
Check this site :

http://sourceforge.net/projects/winik/

This distro make by local ppl.
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can anybody tell me how 2 install software in fedora core 2.
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Darth_ash, Why are you looking at Fedora Core 2?

They stopped working on that already, go work with Fedora Core 5 or 6. Also dont forget to read their website news before going further.

Then again, if you will offer me a working 256MB SDRAM (PC-133) I could tell you how its done and also maybe show it to you. icon_idea.gif

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anyone please tell me which version of linux is the best and the system requirement?
please also include the download link if it is a freeware or open source!
thanks a lot!
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google edy? if not, better u do 1st...
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Dude, I don't think Linux is for you if you have to ask this question.

Perhaps you would want to try Ubuntu, a lot of people say its the easiest distro. I've tried Fedora and Opensuse, and I have to agree that Ubuntu is very easy to use.

Perhaps another option is Knoppix. This one runs off the cd, so you don't have to install anything on your hard disk. Very good for people who never used Linux but want to try it.

Like anetwork said, just Google for the names of the distro to get to the web page.
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if u want the slimmest distro use "DSL Linux" no high spec require, can run on Pentium I wiv 32MB ram, tested wiv streamyx & work great! Can run on "Live cd" or install into hdisk drive. The best of this distro, it's cover most of old driver u need for yor old system & can run on WinXP or dual boot .

or maybe u can try "SLAX"(Gnome & KDE which is quite confusing) & "Puppy"(slight bigger than "DSL") too..

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http://eedok.voidofmind.com/linux/chooser.html

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basically just try it out, read other people's feedback. stuff like that. smile.gif

for me, after some testing i decided to go for SUSe 10.1
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choose the livecd and experience urself
i doubt there is an ultimate solution..
different distro for different user and purpose
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Ubuntu 6.10
http://www.ubuntu.com

Fedora Core 6
http://fedoraproject.org

SuSE 10.1
http://www.opensuse.org

Mandriva 2007
http://www.mandriva.com
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Doesn't anybody use Slackware???
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From now on, those "which distro to choose" threads, if left dangling somewhere in the subforum, it will be merged in here, as soon as I see one.

Encouraging the use of pinned threads.

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QUOTE(cwtien @ Oct 29 2006, 12:09 PM)
Doesn't anybody use Slackware???
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Of course there are many people using it.
What do you want to know?
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What's the different between ubuntu dvd version and cd version ?
More application ?

How do i install ubuntu with window xp ? dual boot?

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click --> Ubuntu Edgy Eft Installation

Ubuntu Guide --> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy


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QUOTE(stealer @ Nov 2 2006, 09:31 PM)
Sorry i don't quite understand... if i have 3 partition , 30GB(window xp ) , 10GB (free fat32) and 40GB (free NTSF).
If i want to install to my second partition 10GB ? how do i install ?
What is ext3 ? why do i need to allocate 100mb for New partition # ? and what is a swap partition ?
Sorry , i am totally new , just downloaded ubuntu 6.10 cd version.
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QUOTE(kingmax @ Nov 2 2006, 11:59 PM)
Sorry i don't quite understand... if i have 3 partition , 30GB(window xp ) , 10GB (free fat32) and 40GB (free NTSF).
If i want to install to my second partition 10GB ? how do i install ?
What is ext3 ? why do i need to allocate 100mb for New partition # ? and what is  a swap partition ?
Sorry , i am totally new , just downloaded ubuntu 6.10 cd version.
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The installer will prompt you for a partition to install.
ext3 is a journalling filesystem.
swap? simple definition would be virtual memory.


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I totally don't know what's the step i should do .Means , the partition #1 is a virtual memory.So how much swap size i need to allocate ? from here is 100mb , http://debianadmin.com/copper/albums/edgy/thumb_16.png .But what's the good size should be use ?
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Well, from my experience of looking in the configurations of most linux servers..
swap partition size is the double of the ram size...
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QUOTE(kons @ Nov 5 2006, 01:28 AM)
Well, from my experience of looking in the configurations of most linux servers..
swap partition size is the double of the ram size...
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So , for example if i have 512mb ram , i need to set it to 1GB swap ?
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Of course, that is correct.

Why, that did not work for you?
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Nope just doulbe confirm before i start installing.If i am having problem installing , i'll sure post around here.Sorry still need to linux.I''m get more infomation before i start using it that's why i google and ask arround.
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i used debian a lot

Debian


i combined it with ubuntu

such a great package debian have 14cds
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QUOTE(Xervice @ Dec 13 2006, 10:55 PM)
i used debian a lot

Debian
i combined it with ubuntu

such a great package debian have 14cds
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hmm.gif

great because of having 14 cds?

I guess those distro with 10000000 cds would make you drop your jaws?

Why not start telling us the reason debian is such a great package?
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i thought debian only need 2 of the cd. even 3. since when they have 14(my mistake sorry).

you will need 14 if you don't have internet connection back home. but you don't need all, probably first 2 is enough(as far as i use it, few months back). the apps can be found in repository anyway.

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Anyone tried the latest SuSE 10.2?
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If want to learn about server in linux, which distro is suitable? I am used to Win Server and Mac OS Server, but only know little about linux server, I ask some expert some said Fedora some said SuSe.. What s your suggestion?
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QUOTE(vandetta @ Dec 15 2006, 10:32 AM)
If want to learn about server in linux, which distro is suitable? I am used to Win Server and Mac OS Server, but only know little about linux server, I ask some expert some said Fedora some said SuSe.. What s your suggestion?
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Well, actually, the best way is to try it out yourself.
If you do not like that, can always reinstall other distro.
Until you have find the one which you like.
It's not that difficult, ya know.
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Yah, not difficult but to download, and to install.. will take long time.. haih.. doh.gif
Or is there any live CD for server? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(vandetta @ Dec 15 2006, 10:32 AM)
If want to learn about server in linux, which distro is suitable? I am used to Win Server and Mac OS Server, but only know little about linux server, I ask some expert some said Fedora some said SuSe.. What s your suggestion?
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very hard to suggest ... you really got to try it out yourself ... previously i used a lot of Red Hat 9 and now Red Hat has Red Hat Enterprise Linux .. but this got some licensing issue ...

So I am using CentOS which uses the same source code as Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
All of distro have different command and different style to install applications ...


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CentOS is great because we get to use RHEL without the licensing crap.

It depends on what you're gonna do with your server if you want to pick a distro, but IMHO stick with the big 2, SUSE and Red Hat if you want to learn.
It might pay off in the long run because most companies use it and you might get a job having this knowledge.
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how bout try this..
Linux Distribution Chooser
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
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QUOTE(br8 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:40 AM)
how bout try this..
Linux Distribution Chooser
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
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Very nice tools.. after go through the test, it recommend me 4 distro; uBuntu, Mandrive, Mepis and Fedora.. I might try Fedora since I've used to it than the others biggrin.gif

But Mepis also attract me..

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MEPIS Linux is a desktop Linux system that is also easy to configure as a dedicated server. It is designed for both personal and business purposes. It includes cutting-edge features such as a live/installation/recovery CD, automatic hardware configuration, NTFS partition resizing, ACPI power management, WiFi support, anti-aliased TrueType fonts, a personal firewall, KDE, and much more.
Does the Fedora Server support Wifi and Bluetooth?

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QUOTE(stealer @ Sep 25 2006, 07:34 PM)
my fav distro is debian.

for surfing i use damn small linux run on virtual pc ....  thumbup.gif
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hi dude, total open source OS, Linu/Unix super noob here.
all the while with MS, even development also all MS (.NET, SQL) blush.gif

so, i heard you talking about Virtual PC, I just installed that and the intention is to try some other OS on my virtual PC.

so far after reading the post here and there, here's the rank I got.

1. Ubuntu, SuSE, PCLinuxOS (Windows like, can install apps without much hasle)
2. Knoppix (runs off the CD)
3. DSL Linux (can run on P1, 32MB)

please advice which distro I should start with which I can get on with my life like those days when I have Windows smile.gif

I dont want to get my hand dirty under the hood yet.. appreciate your advice!

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hi guys, so I decided to go with Ubuntu..
i downloaded the ISO Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS and installed it in Virtual PC.

the ISO loaded successfully, 1st screen is looking good with the choices menu
user posted image

but after this, the image just get distorted.. nothing can be seen.
any idea why?

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QUOTE(bobtiang @ Dec 21 2006, 02:01 AM)
hi guys, so I decided to go with Ubuntu..
i downloaded the ISO Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS and installed it in Virtual PC.

but after this, the image just get distorted.. nothing can be seen.
any idea why?
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The resolution settings is wrong?
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QUOTE(bobtiang @ Dec 20 2006, 10:41 PM)
hi dude, total open source OS, Linu/Unix super noob here.
all the while with MS, even development also all MS (.NET, SQL)  blush.gif

so, i heard you talking about Virtual PC, I just installed that and the intention is to try some other OS on my virtual PC.

so far after reading the post here and there, here's the rank I got.

1. Ubuntu, SuSE, PCLinuxOS (Windows like, can install apps without much hasle)
2. Knoppix (runs off the CD)
3. DSL Linux (can run on P1, 32MB)

please advice which distro I should start with which I can get on with my life like those days when I have Windows smile.gif

I dont want to get my hand dirty under the hood yet.. appreciate your advice!
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Which Virtual PC are you using?
For linux installation, I would suggest going with VMWare.

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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 21 2006, 07:40 AM)
The resolution settings is wrong?
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I manage to get the graphic right after select
- Install in safe graphic mode

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I am using Virtual PC 2004, coz MS make it free now smile.gif
i might want to try VMWare if its something better than virtual PC.

i felt asleep last night, this morning when i woke up. the installation is done, and need a reboot. during the reboot i saw that it failed to STOP the RAID driver.
but later on it manage to boot into the OS, and I leave it to run 63 latest update.

so excited to play it around after work, err...where can i found application like MSN for Ubuntu? is there something like this? or i am asking something silly? smile.gif

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QUOTE(bobtiang @ Dec 21 2006, 10:07 AM)
I manage to get the graphic right after select
- Install in safe graphic mode

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I am using Virtual PC 2004, coz MS make it free now smile.gif
i might want to try VMWare if its something better than virtual PC.

i felt asleep last night, this morning when i woke up. the installation is done, and need a reboot. during the reboot i saw that it failed to STOP the RAID driver.
but later on it manage to boot into the OS, and I leave it to run 63 latest update.

so excited to play it around after work, err...where can i found application like MSN for Ubuntu? is there something like this? or i am asking something silly? smile.gif
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Glad you made it working.
Last time I tried Virtual PC 2004 with RHEL3 R7, it doesn't work.
Sheeesh.

Failing to RAID driver is not really an issue unless you are really utilizing raid in your drive.

MSN for Ubuntu.. Hmm.. GAIM?

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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 21 2006, 11:04 AM)
Glad you made it working.
Last time I tried Virtual PC 2004 with RHEL3 R7, it doesn't work.
Sheeesh.

Failing to RAID driver is not really an issue unless you are really utilizing raid in your drive.

MSN for Ubuntu.. Hmm.. GAIM?
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great! GAIM is cool.. AOL, Yahoo, MSN.. all in one rclxm9.gif

hi sifu out there, got a couple of question on my new installed Ubuntu Dapper Drake smile.gif
I installed it on MS Virtual Machine 2004

1. my sound device is not working, my sound card is Creative Sound Blaster ZS 2
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2. I share a folder from Ubuntu, in my host machine (WinXP), i can see ubuntu in the network place. but when i try to click on that, it prompt the login box. I enter the Ubuntu login and password. but it wont work.
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please advice, thanks a ton! newbie here.. smile.gif

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to enable file sharing with windows u need to install samba on ur ubuntu. >>Installing Samba On Ubuntu Guide
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How about using scp?
I always do that when transferring files between linux and windows.
Setting up samba is just taking too much time and it isn't worth the effort if we are just using it for file sharing, samba is meant for task like pdc or something equivalent to that.
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I don't want to mess with my harddisk which is installed with WinXP so I use a LiveUSB linux. I use PCLinuxOS 0.93a junior LiveUSB and I like it because it comes with development tools.

My onboard ethernet chip cannot be detected by SLAX/Knoppix. These distros also do not include compilers, therefore I cannot compile network driver and cannot access the internet.

PCLinuxOS also cannot detect my onboard ethernet, but PCLinuxOS 0.93a comes with compilers, I am able to compile + load the driver and now I am connected to the internet browsing with Konquerer.

The problem with PCLinuxOS 0.93a junior is bad sound and unable to shutdown/reboot. I am using a headphone to listen to mp3 song and the right part produce bad sound (left part ok). I don't have this problem when I use the mp3 player of SLAX or Knoppix.

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hi guys, thanks for the info. I will try out the long Samba installation later.
now, I want to install BT Downloader, I had downloaded the installer in something .tar.bz2

here's the simple instruction I got from the site:
1. Extract the archive.
2. Check README to ensure you have all of the required dependencies installed. Unfortunately, the configure script is not too intelligent at the moment.
3. ./configure
4. make
5. make install (as whatever user you need to be)

please advice on how this work? where is ./configure?
what is make?
sorry if this is too noob. thanks...
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QUOTE(bobtiang @ Dec 27 2006, 01:25 AM)
hi guys, thanks for the info. I will try out the long Samba installation later.
now, I want to install BT Downloader, I had downloaded the installer in something .tar.bz2

here's the simple instruction I got from the site:
1.  Extract the archive. 
2. Check README to ensure you have all of the required dependencies installed. Unfortunately, the configure script is not too intelligent at the moment.
3. ./configure
4. make 
5. make install (as whatever user you need to be)

please advice on how this work? where is ./configure?
what is make?
sorry if this is too noob. thanks...
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You just need to bunzip and untar it. (means extract it)
Check and readme file in the directory where you have extracted the contents and see if all the .so files or other dependencies has been installed.
Type ./configure in the same directory.
Type make and then make install.

This is a common compilation procedure for most Linux program..
Usually further parameters can be passed into it using ./configure command.
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 27 2006, 07:28 AM)
You just need to bunzip and untar it. (means extract it)
Check and readme file in the directory where you have extracted the contents and see if all the .so files or other dependencies has been installed.
Type ./configure in the same directory.
Type make and then make install.

This is a common compilation procedure for most Linux program..
Usually further parameters can be passed into it using ./configure command.
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hi kons, thanks for the help. unfortunately, it failed at steps 3 (Type ./configure in the same directory).
this is what I got:

admin@bob-Ubuntu:~/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for style of include used by make... none
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl.exe... no
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.

and attached is the config.log

thanks smile.gif

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QUOTE(bobtiang @ Dec 28 2006, 03:14 AM)
hi kons, thanks for the help. unfortunately, it failed at steps 3 (Type ./configure in the same directory).
this is what I got:

admin@bob-Ubuntu:~/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for style of include used by make... none
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl.exe... no
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.

and attached is the config.log

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so you did not install any c compilers?
gcc?
apt-get it.
you need that at least to be able to to run make scripts.

where's the attached config.log?
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hi Kons, i had installed the C compiler from the Synaptic packager manager. i installed the build-essential.
but still I got this... please advice:

admin@bob-Ubuntu:~/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl.exe... no
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH

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Phew.
Managed to dig up the README for 0.0.27

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Did you get all that installed?
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 29 2006, 06:20 AM)
Phew.
Managed to dig up the README for 0.0.27

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Did you get all that installed?
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Hi Kons, thanks a lot for helping out.
intltool was not install, so I had just installed it.
and the command ./configure so powerful, done damn lots of stuff..

but at the next step where I am request to type MAKE
I got this..



admin@bob-Ubuntu:~/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27$ make
Making all in man
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/man'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/man'
Making all in po
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/po'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/po'
Making all in share
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/share'
Making all in desktop
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/share/desktop'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/share/desktop'
Making all in schemas
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/share/schemas'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/share/schemas'
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/share'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/share'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/share'
Making all in src
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/src'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27/src'
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/admin/Desktop/BTDownload/gnome-btdownload-0.0.27'


the other thing, in Ubuntu rite? is there something like the address bar in Windows?
coz in Terminal windows rite, sometime I wanna go deep into some folder. i need to type in all by hand only? smile.gif

thanks in advanced again!
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Seems like the configure script did not do what it's supposed to do.
Did the configure command gave any output?
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Just got my Ubuntu, it really rox

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For the conversation above, I can see that most of use guy/gal use linux just because it is free and only for learning purposes.

Why would someone use Ubuntu? It is slowest among all Linux distro, the only good thing is it is simple to install simple to update and simple to use and also it come with all the require "packages" the we usually use. Credits? it really have everything a normal user need. Even my girlfriend can used it without any problem. Chatting, browsing, watching movie, and do office document reporting, and etc. Wonderful.

Red Hat/Fedora/Suse/Mandriva? if You have install and uses it, you should know it take up almost 8 GB. I think it is ridiculous to install every packages into your computer. Do you know that how many daemon process is running when your Red Hat/Fedora/Suse is running? There is at least 30 daemon processes you don't need it to be running, and at least 50 application that you don't need is installed in your machine when you select all application during installation.

The reason for me to use Linux is because it is fast and extremely configurable, thus i opt to use Gentoo Linux. Why Gentoo, because it is the closest distro to LFS. You have to select packages and compile it on your machine. Thus you can compile it according to your own need. It is like buying a tailor made shirt. But the installation might take up 3 hours if your internet connection is 1mB/s, and you are using a decent machine.

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Didn't know there's such board around. hehe. Distro war has been going on for ages guys. No point arguing here, my tips for newbies. In order to get used to linux environment, you'll need:

1)Patience
2)Make google.com your browser's home page.

So to start, you will need to keep your windows/other familiar os partition, in case your first linux installation doesn't work out. This is what we call "Dual Boot". Dual boot is handled by Linux programs, namely GRUB, or LILO, distro dependent. Google for it you will get countless of how-tos.

Most of the distros today make use of the Internet greatly. So you don't really have to get all the ISOs they publish(some simply go over 10 cds). My personal opinion here, you are better off starting with some 1CD installable distros, first choice would be ubuntu, or kunbutu. More or less the same, Only the softwares preinstalled are different.

By nature, most of the pc users today want something GUI, easy to use. Eventually in Linux, you're going to stuck with KDE/Gnome/xfce or any other infamous project. I'm a heavy KDE user myself.

So assume that your desktop is up, you'll have to do some configs, to make use of all of your hardwares like in windows. These are some problems I've dealt with.

1)sound. the only driver you will need is ALSA. Works with common pci/onboard sound cards. You might need to set it default in different applications but that's uncommon, everything should be preconfigured.

2)Display. Your distro will have x-windows installed for you. Xorg is the most commonly used nowadays. In xorg there will be display drivers ready for nvidia/ati cards, and other common cards of course. Those might not be your choice because generic drivers can't support screen resolutions larger than 1024X768. You need your distro propriety driver(often available in your distro software repository). Or you can just go to manufacturers' sites for linux driver. I personally play 3d games in Linux, (quake,second life, cs), so a proper driver is crucial.

These should make your Linux more or less in an usable stage. Then you need to play your favorite music. Too bad there's no winamp! Get, xmms/amarok, these will play most of your music media files. For video, Xine is your best choice. Remember to get the w32codec, that enables you to play most of the vid formats.

Other common softwares.
browser - firefox
msg-er - Gaim(this takes care of msn,icq,yahoo etc)
irc - xchat
bt - azureus
emule - amule
skype - skype linux
office suite - openoffice.org
image editing- gimp
email - thunderbird

Oh yes, get a GUI packages manager like synaptic, aptitude. I can write for days about linux, but I'm afraid this is all i can contribute for tonight. Check out my blog if you want some ideas on Debian, my only OS for life.





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I am a die hard fan of Debian and Slackware.  Ocassionly  I still keep in touch with FreeBSD and Fedora Core.  Any Debian fans out here.
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Hai, I'm using Ubuntu Dapper Drake. Gnome GUI is really fantastic. User friendly too. Now i'm using it instead of Bill's XP. But there are many things i have to learn. I'm sure we can share any info.

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QUOTE(SkinD B0y @ Jan 17 2007, 12:44 PM)
Hai, I'm using Ubuntu Dapper Drake. Gnome GUI is really fantastic. User friendly too. Now i'm using it instead of Bill's XP. But there are many things i have to learn. I'm sure we can share any info.
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I installed Dapper as well but aptitude installed KDE recently turning my Ubuntu into Kubuntu. I like the KDE applications, but I realized that I missed the Gnome GUI. Dont prefer Konqueror.
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I installed Fedora Core 6 on my hard disk because it allow me to not write to the MBR. I use NTLDR to boot dual boot FC6 with windows xp.

I like ubuntu more than FC6 because apt-get is better than yum, but the ubuntu installer can only write to the MBR, so I give up ubuntu.

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QUOTE(nsdin @ Jan 4 2005, 01:12 PM)
Check this site :

http://sourceforge.net/projects/winik/

This distro make by local ppl.
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how u know that distro is local product?
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QUOTE(tejvenim @ Jan 19 2007, 08:55 PM)
I installed Fedora Core 6 on my hard disk because it allow me to not write to the MBR. I use NTLDR to boot dual boot FC6 with windows xp.

I like ubuntu more than FC6 because apt-get is better than yum, but the ubuntu installer can only write to the MBR, so I give up ubuntu.
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I hav installed ubuntu 6.06 (dapper drake) on my XP system.no probs.it only installed grub in the MBR. nod.gif
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QUOTE(skiver @ Jan 7 2007, 04:16 AM)
Didn't know there's such board around. hehe. Distro war has been going on for ages guys. No point arguing here, my tips for newbies. In order to get used to linux environment, you'll need:

1)Patience
2)Make google.com your browser's home page.

So to start, you will need to keep your windows/other familiar os partition, in case your first linux installation doesn't work out. This is what we call "Dual Boot". Dual boot is handled by Linux programs, namely GRUB, or LILO, distro dependent. Google for it you will get countless of how-tos.

Most of the distros today make use of the Internet greatly. So you don't really have to get all the ISOs they publish(some simply go over 10 cds). My personal opinion here, you are better off starting with some 1CD installable distros, first choice would be ubuntu, or kunbutu. More or less the same, Only the softwares preinstalled are different.

By nature, most of the pc users today want something GUI, easy to use. Eventually in Linux, you're going to stuck with KDE/Gnome/xfce or any other infamous project. I'm a heavy KDE user myself.

So assume that your desktop is up, you'll have to do some configs, to make use of all of your hardwares like in windows. These are some problems I've dealt with.

1)sound. the only driver you will need is ALSA. Works with common pci/onboard sound cards. You might need to set it default in different applications but that's uncommon, everything should be preconfigured.

2)Display. Your distro will have x-windows installed for you. Xorg is the most commonly used nowadays. In xorg there will be display drivers ready for nvidia/ati cards, and other common cards of course. Those might not be your choice because generic drivers can't support screen resolutions larger than 1024X768. You need your distro propriety driver(often available in your distro software repository). Or you can just go to manufacturers' sites for linux driver. I personally play 3d games in Linux, (quake,second life, cs), so a proper driver is crucial.

These should make your Linux more or less in an usable stage. Then you need to play your favorite music. Too bad there's no winamp! Get, xmms/amarok, these will play most of your music media files. For video, Xine is your best choice. Remember to get the w32codec, that enables you to play most of the vid formats.

Other common softwares.
browser - firefox
msg-er - Gaim(this takes care of msn,icq,yahoo etc)
irc - xchat
bt - azureus
emule - amule
skype - skype linux
office suite - openoffice.org
image editing- gimp
email - thunderbird

Oh yes, get a GUI packages manager like synaptic, aptitude. I can write for days about linux, but I'm afraid this is all i can contribute for tonight. Check out my blog if you want some ideas on Debian, my only OS for life.
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what a long preview, skiver, for linux tongue.gif

ok, for a start, using linux has been somewhat cumbersome to me for all this time, im just an average joe whose windows (ori or pirate) was my loyal companion.

i wanted to learn Linux, but seeing all the codes etc etc makes me stay away from 'em.

then came my savior (my lecturer, lol biggrin.gif ) he uses Ubuntu 6.06 on his lappie...i was amazed on how he managed to live without windows.he has every alternative softwares to windows, even have WineX/Cedega installed to play half life CS sweat.gif

since then, it changes my perception on linux on being a boring, command-ish, no life OS...i would like to try other distro, but feared about the support for hardware/software...since i got all the supports from ubuntu support pages..

long live ubuntu/linux~~!!! and cedega too for being "WOW-ed" by my frens (not only win vista has WOW factor tongue.gif )
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after reading the pages of this thread, ive decided 2 use uBuntu and virtualize it first for testing purposes biggrin.gif

ivebeen playing around other Linux distros command line alot and i guess its time i venture into one with graphical interface and the abiltiy 2 do basic administration

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ill be using vmware and ill be checking it out smile.gif

this site greatly helped too

http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html

HAIL Linux

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For those who wanna cross-over from xp to linux. I'd recommend using Freespire. Seriously, it's noob-friendly. Freespire (Used to be Lindows) was my first linux. Nw i'm using fc6.
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newbie in ubuntu linux here,
i wanted to get my hands on ubuntu
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can I have XP and Ubuntu installed into the same HDD drive and select to boot which 1 from the boot menu?

How can I do that?

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QUOTE(cheewooi @ Mar 11 2007, 11:13 PM)
newbie in ubuntu linux here,
i wanted to get my hands on ubuntu
currently running XP,
can I have XP and Ubuntu installed into the same HDD drive and select to boot which 1 from the boot menu?

How can I do that?
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Sure it is possible.
But you need to define a partition for each operating system.
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Hai, may I know that the Linux ver 9 system can support SATA / SATA II drive or? Or it is just for SCSI cable?

I tried in SATA can not successfully install. Does it mean it can be only install in Server PC?

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QUOTE(riskbreaker @ Mar 19 2007, 11:01 AM)
Hai, may I know that the Linux ver 9 system can support SATA / SATA II drive or? Or it is just for SCSI cable?

I tried in SATA can not successfully install. Does it mean it can be only install in Server PC?
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It depends on the SATA chipset being used.
AFAIK, ICH5/ICH5R SATA can be detected by RH 7.3
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I'm a non-linux user and never use linux before. but now i wanna try it.
which distro of linux should i start with? TQ


Added on March 28, 2007, 8:43 pmI'm a non-linux user and never use linux before. but now i wanna try it.
which distro of linux should i start with? TQ

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Any distro would do.
Just simply pick any and just change if you don't like it.
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By the way which distro is best for office use that can communicate well with window server and microsoft file system. Thank
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Any distro would do.
Just simply pick any and just change if you don't like it.
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Ooo. ok then. If that so, maybe I should start with Ubuntu coz I just remember that a friend of mine got its cd.

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Ubuntu is an excellent distro to start out with. After all, it's called "Linux for Human Beings" and the developers are making Ubuntu as user-friendly as possible.
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Why is ppl still going towards Redhat 9 or 7.3? Those are Really old and you shouldn't be using those unless you know how to backport security packages to fit those systems.

Go with the newer ones or try ubuntu as someone suggested.

I use Gentoo. I love the CLI.

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Gosh. thanks guys! I guess i should start from now on. There's a lot of thing i need to know about linux.
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QUOTE(myjunk @ Mar 29 2007, 11:46 PM)
Why is ppl still going towards Redhat 9 or 7.3? Those are Really old and you shouldn't be using those unless you know how to backport security packages to fit those systems.

Go with the newer ones or try ubuntu as someone suggested.

I use Gentoo. I love the CLI.
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probably for specific needs. like an aodv mesh router would need a 2.4 kernel to run, so RH9 is the best bet. i myself still prefer RH9, maybe because i'm so used to it. the newer linux are just too fancy biggrin.gif . FC still has the RH feels but it boots too slow and opensSuSe(currently using) just feels weird.

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I got an old pc.. celeron900mhz 128ram, everything integrated.
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I read an article can use damnsmalllinux and boot it, then can use already.
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Apr 1 2007, 11:54 PM)
I got an old pc.. celeron900mhz 128ram, everything integrated.
Fail to install windows xp... now wanna try open source, but not much knowldege in it.
Any suggestion and necessary steps?
I read an article can use damnsmalllinux and boot it, then can use already.
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With DSL (DamnSmallLinux), there's nothing to configure in order to use.
Just burn the iso (approx 50mb) into a CD and boot from it.
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sorry guys,
i couldn't find the link to download mandriva one 2007 spring
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download

it is mentioned on the page that 1 free cd version : download and try it now, but....
where is the download link?

well, ....
it seems, the direct link isn't there... (i could be wrong)

we could find more on there page here.
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download/otherdownloads/move


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QUOTE(sleepsleep @ Apr 17 2007, 07:54 PM)
sorry guys,
i couldn't find the link to download mandriva one 2007 spring
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download

it is mentioned on the page that 1 free cd version : download and try it now, but....
where is the download link?

well, ....
it seems, the direct link isn't there... (i could be wrong)

we could find more on there page here.
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download/otherdownloads/move
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Hi there.

It is stated in the page.
SOON you will be able to download the brand new Mandriva Linux 2007 Spring!
So it's not yet released.
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i have just installed Ubuntu's Feisty fawn on my previously Ubuntu's edgy eft. for your info to those whose computer doesn't have very high spec, they can try installing Xubuntu which is a variant of Ubuntu but uses xfce desktop environment instead of gnome or any linux distro but uses xfce desktop environment for that matter.

"Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX systems. Designed for productivity, it loads and executes applications fast, while conserving system resources." - Olivier Fourdan, creator of Xfce

for those who are interested in knowing when or where their favourite linux distro is derive from can check out this Linux distro timeline by KDE.
http://kde-files.org/CONTENT/content-files...imeline-7.2.png
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QUOTE(sleepsleep @ Apr 17 2007, 07:54 PM)
sorry guys,
i couldn't find the link to download mandriva one 2007 spring
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download

it is mentioned on the page that 1 free cd version : download and try it now, but....
where is the download link?

well, ....
it seems, the direct link isn't there... (i could be wrong)

we could find more on there page here.
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download/otherdownloads/move
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it has been released.
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download/mandrivaone
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I wondering any 'open source media center' except GeexBox?
Feel like wanna turn my celeron 900 pc for just playing mp3s.
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Which distro I should install?
My requirment;

Must have Java,python,everything so when I install programes I wouldn't have problems with dependcacacies (like when i install AVG it said my distro didn't have bla,bla.

By the way my distro I use now is OPENSUSE.

And actually I want to try Debian,but I'm scared by it's 14cds but some forummer said we only need 3 CD to install Debian,so what is the function of the other 10+ cds?

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you can't get rid of dependencies absolutely.

some packages would have dependencies that's outside normal repository scope.

using package manager might be able to solve some, but not all.

however, when installing a distro, installing everything would help a bit in that.
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QUOTE(kons @ May 1 2007, 04:56 AM)
you can't get rid of dependencies absolutely.

some packages would have dependencies that's outside normal repository scope.

using package manager might be able to solve some, but not all.

however, when installing a distro, installing everything would help a bit in that.
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What you mean by everything?
But at least the bigger stuff included like pyhton(all type) and many more because my installation take about 8GB.

And for Debian,what is the function of the other 10+ cds?

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i tried RH,Fedora,Suse,Mandrake...all gud for beginner but i think it eats some memory...a bit lagg
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I agree.
But can someone please answer me why Debian have as 14 cds?
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Arch Linux, speed is comparable with Gentoo Linux, simple and easy... but it sound like Malaysia less use this distro ... it is worth a Try.
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QUOTE(kons @ May 1 2007, 04:56 AM)
you can't get rid of dependencies absolutely.

some packages would have dependencies that's outside normal repository scope.

using package manager might be able to solve some, but not all.

however, when installing a distro, installing everything would help a bit in that.
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install everything is stupid. you support to install the package that needed.
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install everything is stupid. you support to install the package that needed.
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If we want to have minimal dependencies trouble, installing everything would help a bit.

And I've never thought that installing everything is stupid if I have the hard disk space for that.
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Yes..Agreed

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QUOTE(UbuntuClient @ Jul 6 2007, 03:35 PM)
Kons, which distro that using less resource? Can suggest for me..
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Since you're an Ubuntu "client", can try the Xubuntu or Ubuntu "Alternate CD" installation.
They are using significant less resource than the original Ubuntu.

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The Alternate is for what?
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The Alternate is for what?
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The Ubuntu Alternate CD uses the text installer instead of the new GUI installer. It needs less system memory and permits advanced installs with preseeded options as well as LVM or RAID disk configurations.


Can run with minimal system specs. smile.gif
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But no GUI? Pretty hard for new guy like me..Using text only..
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But no GUI? Pretty hard for new guy like me..Using text only..
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It's only for the installer. smile.gif
Or else, you can try Xubuntu.
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I agree.
But can someone please answer me why Debian have as 14 cds?
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http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty

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Agreed with tengkurex. All CD not necessary. You need install base system only. Other application you can use apt-get.


Added on July 10, 2007, 3:11 pm
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i tried RH,Fedora,Suse,Mandrake...all gud for beginner but i think it eats some memory...a bit lagg
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Have you tried slackware or BSD? BSD using less memory but if you dont know the basic of BSD you will get headache. rclxub.gif

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Great list but do you have the list of PXE bootable OS?
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Great list but do you have the list of PXE bootable OS?
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After i reading through all the topics regarding linux, i feel like trying to install 1.. so i have a few question about linux...
I have 2 partition on my HDD, 1 partition i installed vista home premium.. the other 1 i plan to install linux..

1. can i just download the whole linux file n install it? or it need to be burned into a cd n make it bootable??
2. whats the difference among all those distro since they all r base from linux?? y some say is more simple, user friendly... etc?? is it different distro have different add-on?? how about the visual style??
3. after i installed linux, i need to install linux, i need to install another software for visual style?? cos i heard of gnome n KDE but i'm not really sure what it is actually....
4. The motherboard that i'm using now doesn't has the driver for linux.. so how??

thx for your advise... i'm really noob in linux as i haven't used nor do any of my friend is using it... so i can be quite new for me
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QUOTE(ngjx @ Aug 15 2007, 12:15 AM)
After i reading through all the topics regarding linux, i feel like trying to install 1.. so i have a few question about linux...
I have 2 partition on my HDD, 1 partition i installed vista home premium.. the other 1 i plan to install linux..

1. can i just download the whole linux file n install it? or it need to be burned into a cd n make it bootable??
2. whats the difference among all those distro since they all r base from linux?? y some say is more simple, user friendly... etc?? is it different distro have different add-on?? how about the visual style??
3. after i installed linux, i need to install linux, i need to install another software for visual style?? cos i heard of gnome n KDE but i'm not really sure what it is actually....
4. The motherboard that i'm using now doesn't has the driver for linux.. so how??

thx for your advise... i'm really noob in linux as i haven't used nor do any of my friend is using it... so i can be quite new for me
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Well, I can't say that I know a lot about linux but I'll try to help out as much as I can.
1. A rule of thumb is that Windows does not recognize linux file types and partitions. Meaning after your installation you can see part of your HD 'disappear'.
2. You answered your own question rclxms.gif The visual style is generally divided into KDE and GNOME. The visual style comes with the distribution that you install so do some research and look for the interface which you would be more comfortable with.
3. Linux drivers a basically easy to find. If you're not particularly fussy, and generic driver would work just as well.

For me I use my linux for programming purposes so it's mostly LiveCD or Red Hat Enterprise. I seldom use UBUNTU coz of the strange VI Editor (this includes PcOSLinux as well). tongue.gif

Hope this helps
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ubuntu is the best distro out there..check www.distrowatch.com and you will see ubuntu is at the top of the list..smile.gif
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how bout mandriva spring pack??
can sumone give thier opinion??
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this might be a noob question...


say if i want to experience using linux, can i install it on a pc that have other os like windows? (using diff drives)

can linux accept ntfs?
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QUOTE(kyser39099 @ Sep 7 2007, 08:18 PM)
this might be a noob question...
say if i want to experience using linux, can i install it on a pc that have other os like windows? (using diff drives)

can linux accept ntfs?
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you can install it on a pc that already has an existing os.
linux does not accept ntfs, but you can always create a new filesystem in the partition.
cheers.
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yosh.. thnx alot.. now running on ubuntu fiesty!!
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QUOTE(kons @ Sep 9 2007, 02:04 PM)
you can install it on a pc that already has an existing os.
linux does not accept ntfs, but you can always create a new filesystem in the partition.
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who says that linux doesn't accept ntfs? linux support read-only ntfs by default and you can use ntfs-3g (linux software or module) in order
to enable read-write ntfs in linux. It is stable. the common filesystem for linux is ext3 and reiser (for suse).

I'm using Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn running in my Dell Inspiron 1420 ~

In europe, they can buy Dell laptops with ubuntu ready inside. Check this out

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Dell_Inspiron_1...a_Rosa_Released

Ubuntu is one of distros that has many supports around the world. So it is easier for to get solutions if facing any problem.

The others are

Suse
Fedora Core
Debian
Slackware
Mandriva

Cheers ~
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QUOTE(zekonology @ Sep 14 2007, 11:55 PM)
who says that linux doesn't accept ntfs? linux support read-only ntfs by default and you can use ntfs-3g (linux software or module) in order
to enable read-write ntfs in linux. It is stable. the common filesystem for linux is ext3 and reiser (for suse).
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I was just trying to say, GNU/Linux can't be run on NTFS.
Of course it is possible to read/write to NTFS from Windows, even Windows can read/write ext3 nowadays.
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hey people, what about Linux Mint? it is beautiful and it just works. =)
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Hi, forumers....i been using windows all the time..... i would like to know more about linux and ubuntu.....

My 1 PC ...pentium 1 200 mhz...
My 2 PC ...pentium 2 233 mhz...
My 3 PC ...Amd 600 mhz...

what os is suitable for the above PC ??????

Thanks..
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QUOTE(Benjo @ Oct 10 2007, 12:01 PM)
Hi, forumers....i been using windows all the time..... i would like to know more about linux and ubuntu.....

My 1 PC ...pentium 1 200 mhz...
My 2 PC ...pentium 2 233 mhz...
My 3 PC ...Amd 600 mhz...

what os is suitable for the above PC ??????

Thanks..
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How about the RAM?

You can use normal desktop ubuntu if you have more than 128mb of RAM, if not, you have to look for ubuntu alternate.
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Thanks for your reply

PC1 - 64mb
PC2 - 64mb
PC3 - 256mb

where can i get ubuntu alternate

by the way .. i have ubuntu 6.06 and 7.04

tried on Pentium 233 ..but got stuck/hang .....

what is the system requirement ?

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QUOTE(Benjo @ Oct 10 2007, 01:59 PM)
Thanks for your reply

PC1 -  64mb
PC2 -  64mb
PC3 - 256mb

where can i get ubuntu alternate

by the way .. i have ubuntu 6.06 and 7.04

tried on Pentium 233 ..but got stuck/hang .....

what is the system requirement ?
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Go to ubuntu website, when you are selecting the version to download, check the box which indicate you need the "Alternate Desktop CD" version.
Normal ubuntu won't be able to run with only 64mb RAM.
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QUOTE(kons @ Sep 9 2007, 02:04 PM)
you can install it on a pc that already has an existing os.
linux does not accept ntfs, but you can always create a new filesystem in the partition.
cheers.
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I remember reading there's a driver that allows the linux to write to NTFS drives. The new Ubuntu 7.10 (out in a few days) has this installed by default (NTFS-3G).

Anyone has experience in using this?

Is there a reason why CentOS is not included in the list?
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I remember reading there's a driver that allows the linux to write to NTFS drives. The new Ubuntu 7.10 (out in a few days) has this installed by default (NTFS-3G).

Anyone has experience in using this?

Is there a reason why CentOS is not included in the list?
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I was just trying to say, GNU/Linux can't be run on NTFS.
Of course it is possible to read/write to NTFS from Windows, even Windows can read/write ext3 nowadays.
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CentOS in what list?
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Hi guys, please advise which Linux is best for Novell 4.91 ? My computer is a Pentium4 3.2Ghz machine with 1GB memory. Thanks. smile.gif





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since my ubuntu is corrupted,i wanted to try something different

which distro do you guys recommend?
Easy to use and has a huge community where you could find solutions to your problems easily.
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why it's corrupt? i recommend Linux Mint, well ubuntu 7.10 gutsy is my highest priority.

to Benjo, try Zenwalk (zenwalk.org) or using Ubuntu/Linux Mint with XFCE desktop manager. It's lightweight.
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QUOTE(kons @ Sep 9 2007, 02:04 PM)
you can install it on a pc that already has an existing os.
linux does not accept ntfs, but you can always create a new filesystem in the partition.
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Sorry, but that's wrong info... Which linux are you talking about? Almost all linux distros can read and write to NTFS anf FAT... Ubuntu, Knoppix, Mandriva, FC etc...


Added on November 26, 2007, 8:11 pm
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I was just trying to say, GNU/Linux can't be run on NTFS.
Of course it is possible to read/write to NTFS from Windows, even Windows can read/write ext3 nowadays.
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Windows can read ext3 but cannot write with explore2fs


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Hi guys, please advise which Linux is best for Novell 4.91 ? My computer is a Pentium4 3.2Ghz machine with 1GB memory. Thanks. smile.gif
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Well it depends on you (you've heard this alot I know). your computer is pretty fast so if you have a decent card, go for something nice like Kubuntu or Knoppix with a KDE environment or even Sabayon linux.


Added on November 26, 2007, 8:29 pm
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I know some of you might be annoyed with this but I'd like to buy a book on Red Hat Linux... What's the latest Red Hat + Fedora version release?

Any book you guys can recommend for beginners? SAMs or etc?
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lol you serious? Sorry, don't read books. I prefer to screw up the distro and experiment. Thats the best way to learn. I AM ROOT 1337!!! Lol jk...


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as a newbie in UNIX-based system, am i advisible to use FreeBSD? or i'll just stick with newbie driven distro such as mandrake and SUSE? suggestion needed
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No.. go for a mainstream linux distro like Mandriva. honestly the easiest distro for newbs is Mandriva. Second would be Ubuntu Gutsy... Mandriva has less support than Gutsy but far less hassle and trouble...

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if i want to ubuntu,do i need to find hardware driver like modem,wireles etc for ubuntu?
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if i want to ubuntu,do i need to find hardware driver like modem,wireles etc for ubuntu?
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No need bro, depends on your PC manufacturer. For example, my dell PC no need any extra drivers to install ubuntu. Just plug in all your hardware (e.g printer or etc) before running setup, Ubuntu will auto-detect and install drivers for you.


Added on December 10, 2007, 9:08 pmAnother new Linux distro - Vixta. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ubuntu @ Dec 10 2007, 09:08 PM)
No need bro, depends on your PC manufacturer. For example, my dell PC no need any extra drivers to install ubuntu. Just plug in all your hardware (e.g printer or etc) before running setup, Ubuntu will auto-detect and install drivers for you.


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ok thanks because i decided to install ubuntu on my intel laptop.hopefully after that all hardware will functioning well without hassle troubleshooting.
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ok thanks because i decided to install ubuntu on my intel laptop.hopefully after that all hardware will functioning well without hassle troubleshooting.
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ubuntu give me difficult to install SAP Java system into it, but if i use Fedora it working well!!!

actually i going to install a mail server on linux, which linux base you prefer?

ubuntu server?
fedora?
redhat?

and which mail server you guy prefer, hope you guy give some comment!

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QUOTE(ubuntu @ Dec 13 2007, 12:06 AM)
If you afraid Ubuntu will causing hickup with your Intel laptop, you could run the Ubuntu live CD first, try playing the sample song, short movie (already contain in live CD). If no problem with display and sound, that's mean your Ubuntu support your PC's hardware.  thumbup.gif
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try and found that my broadcom wireless did not work.tried other distro also the same.does linux support online driver searching like window?
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RedHat... I use RedHat most.... others distro didn't really touch a lot in working.
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ Dec 17 2007, 03:33 PM)
try and found that my broadcom wireless did not work.tried other distro also the same.does linux support online driver searching like window?
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Does windows online driver search ever work? tongue.gif

If you know your broadcom NIC model, just go to the vendor website and see if they release any linux drivers for it.
If not, try with ndiswrapper.
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Does windows online driver search ever work? tongue.gif

If you know your broadcom NIC model, just go to the vendor website and see if they release any linux drivers for it.
If not, try with ndiswrapper.
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ok.will try ndiswrapper.thanks
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I'm using Celeron 667 with only 256MB and a 30GB IDE Hard Disk.

I've installed Ubuntu 7.10 and it's lagging all the way. My system can't handle it. cry.gif But I manage to install Deluge just to test the speed. cry.gif

Would you guys recommend me any distro that is suitable for me. Main task is for office, web surfing, a lil' bit of movies and torrent. notworthy.gif

A few more questions bout Damn Small Linux, debiankl recommend me this, but can I install DELUGE, bittorent client in DSL?

And also share files with XP OS thruough LAN?

And how to download DSL? tongue.gif

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And how to download DSL?  tongue.gif
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http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html

Else you can try Ubuntu Alternate CD.
Have you tried it before?
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http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html

Else you can try Ubuntu Alternate CD.
Have you tried it before?
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I only used Live CD and installed it on my old rig.


Added on January 4, 2008, 9:45 amAlso, I need information regarding my questions before about Damn Small Linux. Coz, there is no point if I installed it at my old rig but can't use torrent and run movies. icon_question.gif

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i used ubuntu, fedora, opensuse for work, centos, redhat for server, knoppix for hacking...............hehehehe!
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But dsl can be run in livecd mode though.
You can always try it yourself! flex.gif
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It's a mixed up distros in 1 package...

but it turn out to be so much fun...installation is just piece of cake

http://www.pclinuxos.com/

oh btw i'm a Debian Fan - other than PCLOS i also have FC7, Debian, Knoppix, SunOS and FreeBSD...
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wut pc game we can play in linux??
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which distro is suitable for web developer and server....
my lecture recommend me to change to linux instead of window...
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if you are new to linux..u should probably use mandriva or fedora..if you are really good..then probably debian or freebsd
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newbie here. between mandriva and ubuntu, which one is easier to configure? i mean which one have the least amount of tinkering to do and just work out of the box? i had installed ubuntu both in virtual and real install, and i can't seem to get it working well. how about mandriva? does it have large collections of drivers? sorry if my questions is out of topic.
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Which 1 suitable for me?
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QUOTE(kaxhinaz @ Feb 20 2008, 12:08 AM)
newbie here. between mandriva and ubuntu, which one is easier to configure? i mean which one have the least amount of tinkering to do and just work out of the box? i had installed ubuntu both in virtual and real install, and i can't seem to get it working well. how about mandriva? does it have large collections of drivers? sorry if my questions is out of topic.
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Which 1 suitable for me?
My system is very old system
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Since U'r processor kinda at minimum level, there is not much GUI that can be run.. but u could still run Linux/Unix using the Shell (text based) command.. but U must be familiar with the *nix command.. good luck smile.gif

also u might want to look at Ubuntu, Knoppix, DSL, PCLOS and other distros that available on the line smile.gif



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try GOS..

ubuntu with Google..

i been using it for 2 days now..

www.thinkgos.com

excellent..

even with a idock.. aka macintosh..


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can play dota in linux OS? in ubuntu?
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be sure to have wine installed.. it's just simple as:

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# apt-get install wine winedoor


p/s: note thet the '#' is in the root account (bash/sh) or another method is just simply use the synaptics smile.gif
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which Linux is the best for my new comp....
running on a Intel Pentium Dual Core with 2 GB of RAM
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is Ubuntu Linux good ?
please PM me the link where to download Linux OS
recommend me the best Linux as well

Thanks


Added on April 12, 2008, 10:25 pmi want it to be user friendly, wide range of drivers compatibility
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Thanks


Added on April 12, 2008, 10:26 pmalso... able to run most windows games and apps on it...


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which Linux is the best for my new comp....
running on a Intel Pentium Dual Core with 2 GB of RAM
any suggestions ?

is Ubuntu Linux good ?
please PM me the link where to download Linux OS
recommend me the best Linux as well

Thanks


Added on April 12, 2008, 10:25 pmi want it to be user friendly, wide range of drivers compatibility
and fast....

Thanks


Added on April 12, 2008, 10:26 pmalso... able to run most windows games and apps on it...
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you may try out the ubuntu.. i just installed few day ago.. and it run no problem so far.. all hardware was auto detected..
Ubuntu

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also... able to run most windows games and apps on it...


Ubuntu is fine for a start. For Windows games, you can run em' in Linux using wine. For other apps, I suggest you try to find their equivalent open source. Eg: MS Office --> OpenOffice, Adobe Photoshop-->Gimp...and something like that. Good luck~~~

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IS that Ubuntu will offer the most eye-candies in GUI? Also is that Ubuntu the easiest Linux around?
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IS that Ubuntu will offer the most eye-candies in GUI?
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In a way, I can answer yes because Ubuntu 7.10 comes with Compiz-Fussion (desktop effect) out of the box. But, with a little tinkering, other distro can have it too. Other eye-candies (icon, theme, login screen) can be downloaded corresponded with the desktop environment (Gnome, KDE, etc)

QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 19 2008, 10:26 PM)
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From my experience, it's among the easiest Linux around biggrin.gif

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How about Linux Mint OS? I heard that they have limited Windows programs compatibility there. smile.gif
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How about Linux Mint OS? I heard that they have limited Windows programs compatibility there. smile.gif
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i wan to ask one thing..
using linux must have the internet connection?? to perfect it??
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you need internet connection for updates, else it just works fine....
It is just too easy to look for apps in ubuntu with internet connection with synaptics.
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or new user ubuntu is the hands down, the best distro

or experienced user slackware will be the best choice smile.gif
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personally i like linux, but not until it fully support the new ATi HD generation

been tryin' by all means to install ati driver but not luck.. only black screen bug anywhere.. zzZZzz
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ May 4 2008, 12:21 AM)
personally i like linux, but not until it fully support the new ATi HD generation

been tryin' by all means to install ati driver but not luck.. only black screen bug anywhere.. zzZZzz
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newbie here. between mandriva and ubuntu, which one is easier to configure? i mean which one have the least amount of tinkering to do and just work out of the box? i had installed ubuntu both in virtual and real install, and i can't seem to get it working well. how about mandriva? does it have large collections of drivers? sorry if my questions is out of topic.
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Mandriva is pretty easy to install and use. It worked right out of the box for my PC but software selection is rather limited. You can search it yourself but Linux softwares have a lot of dependencies so you got to do some work to get everything right for you. Distros like Ubuntu have a large software repository so all the softwares come in packages, you don't have to hunt for the dependency files. But Ubuntu doesn't install well on my PC but another distro, Linux Mint which is build on Ubuntu worked for me. I strongly recommend you to try Linux Mint.

Large collection of drivers? Why do you need a large collection?

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Have you tried using Envy? I used that for my Acer 1692's ATI Mobility Radeon X700.
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nope, if not mistaken, current linux kernel only can optimize 9500 & higher ati gfx but not hd series, i mean until x series.
as far ive already tried:-

- mandriva 2008 rc2
- fc 7 & 9 beta
- ubuntu 7.10 & 8.04
- opensuse 10.3 & 11.0 beta

the only works was opensuse 10.3 but it have the lagg problem.. doh.gif doh.gif

i will try with rhe later.. might got luck? laugh.gif

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I'm currently using xp to do a output file server. Would like to switch to Linux cos i heard tat Linux have better performance for input output server. Is it true ?

My current server is a dual core any recommend which Linux is suitable for this input output server ? Currently using dual gigabits LAN to provides all the clients need. (Im new to Linux)

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You mean like a Sharing Server?

Just get Debian, SuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu or something then setup Samba.
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going to install fedora on my old unused hdd .

any idea which version of fedora support driver of my old ati radeon 9600 ?
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is it i386? x86_64? i686? which architecture?
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Anyone can susgest a distro with out of the box compatibility with windows xp network n share folders? I tried using ubuntu and variants of it but it seems to always fail.
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i?86 refers to normal computer system which uses 32 bit, iX86_64 refers to a system using 64 bits and PPC is for Power PC (the previous Apple computer's processor).

Most of the distro don't support windows network n share folders natively, you'll have to install samba for linux to communicate with windows network. There are some distro which installs Samba by default.
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QUOTE(biatch0 @ Sep 15 2004, 12:34 PM)
There have been way too many of these threads lately, and somehow nobody wants to ask the question in one common thread; so here is one.

Distro Home Page
Debian
Fedora
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Mandrake
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TurboLinux
Ubuntu

Download links
Redhat 1.0 to 9.0

Additional info
Threads like which linux to choose and related stuff will be merged into this pinned thread.

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me first time linux user

going to install fedora on my old unused hdd .

any idea which version of fedora support driver of my old ati radeon 9600 ?
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ May 28 2008, 04:24 PM)
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I thought you just need samba to work with Windows regardless of the distro.
No?
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I would love windows to work with Samba but with the ubuntu 8.04 install everytime i open samba in it ubuntu tells me the sucker crashes. So i gotta first work with that.

I once got Mint 3 to work.. i could see all the files access them etc. But on reboot I can't anymore.... its freaking killing me.
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rangerred , i heard rumor that there is other application which might help for WLAN / LAN ( Share Folders) try Googling around .
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Dude I am done looking. I was looking for nearly ten days for the solution. Am not looking for another 'solution' if someone has a clear cut method just state it. Cuz all those worthless sites assume it naturally works all the damn time and don't have 'if installation fails or samba fails to start' help.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jun 2 2008, 08:39 PM)
Dude I am done looking. I was looking for nearly ten days for the solution. Am not looking for another 'solution' if someone has a clear cut method just state it. Cuz all those worthless sites assume it naturally works all the damn time and don't have 'if installation fails or samba fails to start' help.
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you can try openSUSE, a many things are out of box, like ubuntu smile.gif
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jun 2 2008, 08:39 PM)
Dude I am done looking. I was looking for nearly ten days for the solution. Am not looking for another 'solution' if someone has a clear cut method just state it. Cuz all those worthless sites assume it naturally works all the damn time and don't have 'if installation fails or samba fails to start' help.
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What seems to be the problem?
What error message did you get?

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Hi all linux sifu,

I have been working on open source php, cgi, pl and sql scipt on my windows machine and then need to upload the files to the Linux server all the times using an internet connection to get the output.

I recently purchase a new cpu. Kindly recommend me a good linux OS for my scripting without requiring me to connect the internet at home. I would like to know the output immediately on my linux machine. Once the output is working fine, I would upload the final scripting and sql to the real linux server.

Also, I would like to install vmware/ virtual pc on this linux machine as well.

I'm thinking of installing the fedora. Would fedora able to do the tasks I mention above? Hope to hear the feedback from you all. Thx.
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QUOTE(janica @ Jul 7 2008, 07:29 PM)
Hi all linux sifu,

I have been working on open source php, cgi, pl and sql scipt on my windows machine and then need to upload the files to the Linux server all the times using an internet connection to get the output.

I recently purchase a new cpu. Kindly recommend me a good linux OS for my scripting without requiring me to connect the internet at home. I would like to know the output immediately on my linux machine. Once the output is working fine, I would upload the final scripting and sql to the real linux server.

Also, I would like to install vmware/ virtual pc on this linux machine as well.

I'm thinking of installing the fedora. Would fedora able to do the tasks I mention above? Hope to hear the feedback from you all. Thx.
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Of course. You have to run vmware/xen on the Fedora.
Virtual PC is only meant for Windows platform.

Probably you would need apache to be installed in the Fedora as well.
Which SQL are you using? psql? mysql?
Either one, it's available under Fedora too.
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QUOTE(kons @ Jul 7 2008, 10:44 PM)
Of course. You have to run vmware/xen on the Fedora.
Virtual PC is only meant for Windows platform.

Probably you would need apache to be installed in the Fedora as well.
Which SQL are you using? psql? mysql?
Either one, it's available under Fedora too.
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Is the file I need to download is as follows?

ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fedora/lin...Fedora/i386/iso

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QUOTE(janica @ Jul 8 2008, 04:03 PM)
Is the file I need to download is as follows?

ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fedora/lin...Fedora/i386/iso

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The mirror seems to be down from here, for 5 days now.
Anyway, the url seems to be correct if you can access the site from there.
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The mirror seems to be down from here, for 5 days now.
Anyway, the url seems to be correct if you can access the site from there.
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Thx kons. I guess it would be better to buy the linux CD (Fedora 9) with apache as well coz the files are just too huge. Anyone have the latest version where it is 100% workable? Coz I do not want to crash my new cpu when installing the new OS from unknown source. The base is very important. Please help. Many thx
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Thx kons. I guess it would be better to buy the linux CD (Fedora 9) with apache as well coz the files are just too huge. Anyone have the latest version where it is 100% workable? Coz I do not want to crash my new cpu when installing the new OS from unknown source. The base is very important. Please help. Many thx
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It would not crash your cpu even if the iso files are corrupted, don't worry.
The installation would just freeze.
Then probably the only way is to re-install.

Or of course if you can find a reasonably priced DVD/CD, then it's good to buy too.
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not all but mostly free.................


Added on August 4, 2008, 2:13 pm
QUOTE(janica @ Jul 16 2008, 06:34 PM)
Thx kons. I guess it would be better to buy the linux CD (Fedora 9) with apache as well coz the files are just too huge. Anyone have the latest version where it is 100% workable? Coz I do not want to crash my new cpu when installing the new OS from unknown source. The base is very important. Please help. Many thx
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just go and download alternative 3.5gb one, and you have all in one cd...........................anyhow, if it is too huge for u, try ubuntu.......u can get apache installed with just simple command........

thanks!

ubuntu cd is free....................

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not all but mostly free.................


Added on August 4, 2008, 2:13 pm
just go and download alternative 3.5gb one, and you have all in one cd...........................anyhow, if it is too huge for u, try ubuntu.......u can get apache installed with just simple command........

thanks!

ubuntu cd is free....................
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I'm going to download it at the office tomorrow. Thank you so much for your recommendation. notworthy.gif
I would start using ubuntu linux soon. Cheers.
hxxp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
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ugh guys, any lightweight distro that is suitable for home user?

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ugh guys, any lightweight distro that is suitable for home user?

now using ubuntu 8.04...GNOME desktop environment really heavy nowadays for built-in grafic card PC sweat.gif
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any distro that can support as ubuntu does? like fedora core? how about its driver? so far i using ubuntu never faced with driver problems. all r recognized correctly.
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errr... sum dumb question here. does there any game for ubuntu?
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You can search for Games in Ubuntu. Go to the Add/Remove under the Application menu. You can search for games there.
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You can search for Games in Ubuntu. Go to the Add/Remove under the Application menu. You can search for games there.
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what distro have preinstalled driver 4 my compaq laptop. if doesnt, where to find the drivers
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http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
Which one should i download?
How, if I wan to make it boot from usb pen drive?
Just extract files into pendrive?

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QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 9 2008, 04:23 PM)
http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
Which one should i download?
How, if I wan to make it boot from usb pen drive?
Just extract files into pendrive?
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DSL website is selling pre-installed pen drive with DSL.. not bad.

Or else:

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/02/all-in-one-usb-dsl/
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1.Download the HP-USB Format tool and format your flash drive using the Fat or Fat32 option
2.Download the dsl-embedded.zip and extract the contents using 7-Zip to your "USB flash drive"
3.Download syslinux-3.36.zip and unzip the files to a directory called syslinux on your computer
4.From Windows click start-> run-> cmd
5.From the command window, type cd \syslinux\win32
6.Type syslinux.exe -ma X: (replace X with your USB drive letter) to make the drive bootable
7.Reboot your computer and set your system BIOS or Boot Menu to boot from the USB device. In some cases, you might also need to set the hard disk boot priority to boot from the USB stick if your BIOS lists the device as a hard drive.

I cant understand step 5 n 6.
I think i will try to use uNETbootin to do it.
They are same ,right?
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If wireless, you need to get the firmware in most cases (even if the driver is loaded at default). Some distro like Mint comes with proprietary firmware. Except Broadcom. You'll have to get it on your own. Just going to your respective distro forum and search for solution.

For graphic, most distro will have intel driver shipped. NVIDIA and ATI mostly you have to install on your own. But there are some exception also though (Sabayon, Mandriva etc)

Sound, mouse, keyboard external harddisk etc should work out of the box without installing anything. Except in some very rare cases.

Good luck in Linux-ing! biggrin.gif
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When Linux is installed, is it necessary to install GRUB?
How to remove it when I am not using LInux anymore?
Can I install Linux on externall hdd n boot from it?
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QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 27 2008, 06:20 PM)
When Linux is installed, is it necessary to install GRUB?
How to remove it when I am not using LInux anymore?
Can  I install Linux on externall hdd n boot from it?
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GRUB is the boot loader , it allows you to boot to Linux and Other OSes such as Windows

You can remove it by simply issuing the masterboot record command , whereby it would restore back Windows Boot Loader. There are tutorials on the Internet on how to restore

Yes , if your motherboard supports it.
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U mean that if my mobo support USB boot then I could continue to do it?
If GRUB is not present, can Linux be used?
I had went through some webs, and I don know exactly how to remove it.
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QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 28 2008, 06:37 PM)
I had went through some webs, and I don know exactly how to remove it.
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If you are using Windows XP, boot your XP install cd, and go into rocovery console and run this command:

fixmbr

If you are using Vista, then boot your Vista install cd. Choose "Repair My computer" at the first screen, go into CMD and run this command:

bootrec /FixMbr

Hope it helps.
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So , by default, my pc is using Windows bootloader?
Btw, are all the instalation files same for all Linux(ubuntu, fedora,debian)?

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QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 29 2008, 03:52 PM)
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What do you mean by installation file? Is it the package that those distributions include or is it the installation process?

As for installation process you really don't have to worry much. Most Linux distros are pretty easy to install nowadays. Apart from the disk partitioning part, may be a bit confusing for those who have not done it before.

If you are asking about the packages, most Linux distros come with pretty much the same package. Major differences may be in the choice of Desktop Environment. (KDE, Gnome, XFCE, etc) Other than that most basic packages should be there, only the version might be slightly different.
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I mean the installation files of software such as Opera.
Diffent distro need different or same instalation file of software?
I had decided to install on my external hdd(mobo support USB boot)
I dun have problem with partitioning(done it before).
Then, I need GRUB to boot Linux, right?
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I mean the installation files of software such as Opera.
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Depends. Some installer are distro dependent, some aren't. Example, opera packages its software into specific package for most popular distros. But if your distro is not listed you still can use the "Generic" package. It might also be possible to use, for example, Ubuntu packages on Linux Mint (based on Ubuntu). As long as the dependencies are satisfied you should have no problem installing and running the software.

Btw, you can try to get software from the openSUSE build service. It support building packages for other distros. (I don't think you can get proprietary software from there though.)

http://software.opensuse.org/search



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Then, I need GRUB to boot Linux, right?
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I personally like Ubuntu 8.10. As bug are fixed from the previous release of 8.04, it has been more and more to my likings. Try it out! U'll like it.. thumbup.gif
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Kenali Distro Linux

Linux adalah inti(kernel) sistem pengoperasian yang mirip Unix, tetapi untuk menjadikan ia persekitaran OS yg lengkap perlulah tools lain seperti pengkompil, cengkerang (shell), pengurus tetingkap (window manager) dan persekitaran desktop. Sebenarnya sistem pengoperasian ini sepatutnya dipanggil GNU/Linux, tetapi sudah menjadi kebiasaan untuk memanggilnya "Linux" sahaja.

Kita boleh membina sendiri persekitaran Linux sendiri dengan memuatturun kod sumber dari internet dan mengkompilnya sendiri (malah ada panduan untuk melakukan sedemikian di laman projek LFS - Linux From Scratch), tetapi ini memakan masa yang lama dan memerlukan kemahiran. Oleh itu, biasanya kita memasang Linux daripada koleksi yang telah dibuat oleh pihak lain, sama ada syarikat, organisasi atau individu. Koleksi perisian ini dipanggil "distribution" atau "distro" Linux.

Setiap distro akan mempunyai perisian tersendiri untuk memasang perisian yang dipanggil pengurus pakej. Antara cara pengurusan pakej yang popular ialah rpm, apt-get, pkgtool. Ada juga distro yang memasang perisian daripada kod sumber seperti gentoo dengan portage dan emerge.

Dokumentasi ini merupakan panduan yang ringkas tentang distro-distro yang boleh dipilih utk. memasang Linux.

1. Redhat

Redhat merupakan distro yang paling popular dan boleh dikatakan sinonim dengan "Linux". Ia merupakan antara distro awal yang memuatkan ciri-ciri installer mesra-pengguna. Redhat menyediakan koleksi perisian yang mantap dan terkini. Untuk perisian seperti pengkompil gcc, Redhat merupakan distro yang akan menyediakan versi yang terbaru dgn features yang terbaru. Pengurusan pakejnya ialah rpm, dan konfigurasi sistem dilakukan dengan tools mesra-pengguna yang disediakan oleh Redhat. Ini menjadikan Redhat distro yang bagus untuk desktop dan server.

2. Mandrake

Mandrake merupakan distro yag berasaskan rpm juga, dan ia mirip kpd Redhat dari segi konfigurasi sistem. Fokus Mandrake ialah "mesra pengguna" dan 'terkini", dan distro ini adalah untuk desktop. Ia kurang sesuai dijadikan server kerana kestabilannya tidak berapa mantap, kerana terdapa perisian-perisian dalam distro ini yang belum cukup stabil untuk dilaksanakan 24/7. Walau bagaimanapun, ia sesuai digunakan untuk "newbies" yang baru nak berjinak-jinak dengan Linux kerana ia ramah pengguna.

3. Debian

Debian merupakan distro yang digemari pengaturcara dan sysadmin yang menggunakan perisian "Free", kerana ia dibina atas usaha sukarelawan sepenuhnya. Ia menggunakan pengurus pakej "apt" yang sangat mudah digunakan, tetapi pemasangan untuk kali pertama mungkin agak rumit bagi "newbies". Debian menyediakan pakej yang stabil dan juga yang baru, dan pakej untuk Debian mudah didapati.


4. SuSE

SuSE merupakan distro yang juga rpm-based, dan berasal dari Jerman. Fokusnya ialah enterprise-computing, high-perfomance computing dan workstation. Jika anda membeli SuSE, anda akan mendapat dokumentasi yang sangat teliti dan lengkap. SuSE tidak menyediakan ISO, tetapi anda boleh memasangnya secara percuma menggunakan ftp. SuSE juga menyediakan persekitaran Linux untuk pemproses 64-bit baru yang berprestasi tinggi seperti ppc64, opteron dan itanium2.

5. Slackware

Slackware merupakan antara distro Linux yang terawal, dan merupakan distro yang tertua yang survive sampai hari ini. Pembangunan untuk distro ini agak perlahan, tetapi ia merupakan distro yang sangat stabil. Ia menggunakan pengurus pakej pkgtool yang ringkas dan mudah. Persekitarannya mirip kpd. BSD dan bukannya Sys V seperti Redhat atau Mandrake. Pengurusan sistem dilakukan secara "tradisional" iaitu mengedit fail konfigurasi menggunakan penunting teks. Ia sesuai untuk orang yang sudah biasa dgn sistem Unix lain, ataupun "newbies" yang ingin mempelajari Linux dengan mendalam.

6. Gentoo

Gentoo merupakan distro yang membolehkan anda configure dan customize dan optimize Linux anda semaksima yang mungkin, kerana ia memasang perisian dengan menggunakan cara kompilasi kod sumber. Ia tidak sukar seperti LFS, tetapi memakan masa yang agak lama untuk membuat semua kompilasi. Ia menggunakan sistem "portage" yang mirip kpd "ports" FreeBSD untuk menguruskan pakej.

7. Knoppix

Knoppix merupakan "Live CD" Linux yang boleh dilaksanakan terus daripada CDROM tanpa perlu dipasang. Ia sangat mudah digunakan kerana tidak perlu kpd pemasangan, tetapi ia juga boleh dipasang. Ia berasaskan Debian, dan menggunakan pengurus pakej apt.

Demikianlah senarai distro-distro yang popular pada masa kini. Terdapat ratusan lagi distro lain yang anda boleh lihat sendiri di http://www.distrowatch.com . Panduan ini hanyalah pengenalan kpd distro-distro yang popular sahaja.

Oh yer, websites:

1) Redhat - http://www.redhat.com (free ISO download utk standard edition)

2) Mandrake - http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ (free ISO download utk standard edition)

3) Debian - http://www.debian.org (free ISO download utk mana-mana supported arch)

4) SuSE - http://www.suse.com (free ftp install for standard version, no ISO)

5) Slackware - http://www.slackware.com (free ISO download utk cd pertama)

6) Gentoo - http://www.gentoo.org (free ISO download utk mana-mana supported arch)

7) Knoppix - http://www.knoppix.net/ (free ISO download)
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Guys, what distro is the best for my needs?

my daily task:
*microsoft office (openoffice's powerpoint can be opened on microsoft powerpoint? openoffice can open ms office 2007's filetype?)
*firefox
*foobar2000 for mp3 (or other player that is light and similar to foobar)
*a player that can run mkv files (high definition video 720p and 1080p)
*can support usb hsdpa huawei e220 modem
*can read ntfs partition
*kde 4

ubuntu 8.10? linux mint?

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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Nov 4 2008, 01:07 PM)
Guys, what distro is the best for my needs?

my daily task:
*microsoft office
*firefox
*foobar2000 for mp3
*a player that can run mkv files (high definition video 720p and 1080p)
*can support usb hsdpa huawei e220 modem
*can read ntfs partition

ubuntu 8.10? linux mint?
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Foobar do not support Linux.
U have to use windows emulator in order to run foobar and Windows app.
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Nov 4 2008, 01:07 PM)
Guys, what distro is the best for my needs?

my daily task:
*microsoft office (openoffice's powerpoint can be opened on microsoft powerpoint? openoffice can open ms office 2007's filetype?)
*firefox
*foobar2000 for mp3 (or other player that is light and similar to foobar)
*a player that can run mkv files (high definition video 720p and 1080p)
*can support usb hsdpa huawei e220 modem
*can read ntfs partition

ubuntu 8.10? linux mint?
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Firefox has great support for Linux, but I use opera anyway. biggrin.gif
Personally i think Amarok is good enough for my music needs, so i don't use foobar.
The ability to play multimedia files (mkv, avi, wma etc) depends on the multimedia backend and the codec available in your system, so not really an issue with player.
I'm using kaffein and mkv files play just fine.
For celcom modems (Globe surfer and blue cube) i depends in UMTSmon to connect them to internet. Should work with Huawei modem as well.
and for NTFS support, most distros comes with ntfs-3g so you can read and write to NTFS partitions.

And for microsoft office, I think Open Office's writer is good enough. But Impress(power point) is a bit impossible for me. cool2.gif In the case when i need to make nice presentation slides i'll just fire up Windows XP from VirtualBox and launce Office 2007 from there. rclxms.gif

Open office will open Microsoft Office's documents without problem. But if you wan to open OpenOffice documents in microsoft office, take a look at
"Sun ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office"


Oh, btw, did I forgot to mention I'm openSUSE user? rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(sc4bbk @ Nov 5 2008, 04:17 PM)
Firefox has great support for Linux, but I use opera anyway.  biggrin.gif
Personally i think Amarok is good enough for my music needs, so i don't use foobar.
The ability to play multimedia files (mkv, avi, wma etc) depends on the multimedia backend and the codec available in your system, so not really an issue with player.
I'm using kaffein and mkv files play just fine.
For celcom modems (Globe surfer and blue cube) i depends in UMTSmon to connect them to internet. Should work with Huawei modem as well.
and for NTFS support, most distros comes with ntfs-3g so you can read and write to NTFS partitions.

And for microsoft office, I think Open Office's writer is good enough. But Impress(power point) is a bit impossible for me.  cool2.gif  In the case when i need to make nice presentation slides i'll just fire up Windows XP from VirtualBox and launce Office 2007 from there.  rclxms.gif

Open office will open Microsoft Office's documents without problem. But if you wan to open OpenOffice documents in microsoft office, take a look at
"Sun ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office"
Oh, btw, did I forgot to mention I'm openSUSE user?  rclxm9.gif
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thanks for the tips... thumbup.gif

for you, which distro suits me best?


p/s: forgot to mention i need kde4 too tongue.gif
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thanks for the tips... thumbup.gif

for you, which distro suits me best?
p/s: forgot to mention i need kde4 too tongue.gif
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If you need KDE4, i suggest you go for Distro with KDE 4.1. Personally i think KDE4.0 is not very useble even in openSUSE. (Ppl say that they have the best KDE4 integration)

So far for the main GNU/Linux distro only Mandriva and Kubuntu officially come with KDE4.1. I installed Mandriva 2009.0 on my friend's laptop before. Quite stable. But I do not particularly like the distro bcuz of its package management & Network Configuration. I haven't tried Kubuntu 8.10 though.

If you dun need KDE4 then I'll say openSUSE 11.0 or Mint 5 (Gnome/KDE). You might need to mount NTFS partition on your own(the point & click in KDE3.5.9 has some problems) and install codecs, driver etc in openSUSE though. Mint 5 is really easy to use. Almost everything work out of the box. But i'm using openSUSE now cuz my laptop works best with it and it's really powerful.

If you wan a lot of community support then go for Ubuntu. biggrin.gif

The choice is yours biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sc4bbk @ Nov 5 2008, 08:43 PM)
If you need KDE4, i suggest you go for Distro with KDE 4.1. Personally i think KDE4.0 is not very useble even in openSUSE. (Ppl say that they have the best KDE4 integration)

So far for the main GNU/Linux distro only Mandriva and Kubuntu officially come with KDE4.1. I installed Mandriva 2009.0 on my friend's laptop before. Quite stable. But I do not particularly like the distro bcuz of its package management & Network Configuration. I haven't tried Kubuntu 8.10 though.

If you dun need KDE4 then I'll say openSUSE 11.0 or Mint 5 (Gnome/KDE). You might need to mount NTFS partition on your own(the point & click in KDE3.5.9 has some problems) and install codecs, driver etc in openSUSE though. Mint 5 is really easy to use. Almost everything work out of the box. But i'm using openSUSE now cuz my laptop works best with it and it's really powerful.

If you wan a lot of community support then go for Ubuntu.  biggrin.gif

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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

which should i go.... rclxub.gif

mint is all-rounder for beginner but no kde4.
ubuntu have abit problems with codecs and no kde4 too...
opensuse have prob with ntfs mounting..
kubuntu= same as ubuntu right(with just kde4 instead of gnome)?
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Nov 6 2008, 03:33 PM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

which should i go.... rclxub.gif

mint is all-rounder for beginner but no kde4.
ubuntu have abit problems with codecs and no kde4 too...
opensuse have prob with ntfs mounting..
kubuntu= same as ubuntu right(with just kde4 instead of gnome)?
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Why do you need KDE4 so much actually? blink.gif I think Mint's Gnome is pretty user friendly and cool at the same time.
openSUSE does has problem with point-and-click NTFS mounting. But if you learn how to do it with command line, then there is no problem.
Kubuntu you can give it a try, but I can't give comment on their latest version cuz I haven't tried it yet.
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Nov 4 2008, 01:07 PM)
*foobar2000 for mp3 (or other player that is light and similar to foobar)
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If you really want to customize your music player/manager, you can try GMusicBrowser. It's very customizable like foobar2000, but it's a little buggy at the moment because it's still in its beta.


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amarok..is rock ! heeh...great for music...im just using acs 45.1 and do minor equalizer .adjustment.. produce clean bass...
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amarok..is rock ! heeh...great for music...im just using acs 45.1 and do minor equalizer .adjustment.. produce clean bass...
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amarok..is rock ! heeh...great for music...im just using acs 45.1 and do minor equalizer .adjustment.. produce clean bass...
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amarok need KDE based linux right? how to get it working in ubuntu? i'm more into sound tweaking/adjustment than cooler interface...
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amarok need KDE based linux right? how to get it working in ubuntu? i'm more into sound tweaking/adjustment than cooler interface...
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Amarok can run on Gnome Desktop (which is Ubuntu default desktop maanager) too but if you want a KDE based Ubuntu, get Kubuntu.
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QUOTE(ayob99 @ Nov 9 2008, 10:57 PM)
Amarok can run on Gnome Desktop (which is Ubuntu default desktop maanager) too but if you want a KDE based Ubuntu, get Kubuntu.
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oh really? i thought it was for only KDE coz after i downloaded it using add/remove program, there's error when installing amarok....

now trying exaile as music player...


what's the best movie player for ubuntu? especially to play mkv high definition movies...
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oh really? i thought it was for only KDE coz after i downloaded it using add/remove program, there's error when installing amarok....

now trying exaile as music player...
what's the best movie player for ubuntu? especially to play mkv high definition movies...
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What kind of error? Didn't have problems with mine.

mkv files? Use MPlayer or VLC but make sure you got the gstreamer codecs installed.

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not sure what error... but after reboot ubuntu can install already...

i tried various players like totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, mplayer and vlc to play mkv 1080p video but all have some stutter problem during playback. Playback on the same rig but in XP was smooth. Its like the players cant maximize my cpu and gpu performance during playback of 1080p. Is there any workaround for this?
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What's wrong with 'sudo'ing? I dont see any harm there. In fact I see 'sudo' better than 'su'.

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I want to know what is the difference between KDE n GNOME?


Added on March 6, 2009, 1:27 pmBesides from here, is there anymore?
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome
Btw, can i use same packages in ubuntu n kubuntu ?

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What's wrong with 'sudo'ing? I dont see any harm there. In fact I see 'sudo' better than 'su'.
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Haha..me too have problems with using sudo. When I tested ubuntu, I really hate the need to sudo with every command. As you might have guessed, that is because I come from using redhat based linux and very used to using root user. So, I end up enabling root user in ubuntu and use root to login to my server.

Don't tell me about the security problem because redhat has been doing that for years and no problem with it. As for making mistakes using root directly? Non so far with my 8 years of using root user in linux.

The thing is, sudo might be good if you don't use command lines a lot. But when you need to type tons of commands daily, imagine the amount of time to type sudo. Let's say 1 sec to type sudo everytime. 1 day you might be typing like 100 sudo commands. That's 100 secs. You work 5 days a week, that would be 500 secs a week and 2000 secs a month.

You have wasted 2000 secs a month just to type sudo? That's 33.33 minutes.
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if i know i'm going to be doing a lot of root-y stuff i just do sudo bash. not quite sure if there's any downside to it vs su but i haven't run into any so far.
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Use 'sudo su' if you want to keep root access in BASH.
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"sudo bash" lets me use my aliases. what's the difference between that and "sudo su"?
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duno this is a right thread or not

i plan to install ubuntu on my gf's laptop which is win xp..but i worried tht ubuntu cant install ms office..any idea about it?
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You won't be able to run MS Office on Ubuntu, you can try using wine to run it but I have never tried that myself. Most Linux distros includes OpenOffice for your word processing and financial spreadsheets requirement and it is compatible with MS Office documents.


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openoffice is similar enough to ms office for me. ymmv.
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Linux Mint is the best distro I can think of for noobies. The best thing is that it guides you through installation for dual-booting with Windows and also (unlike Ubuntu) contains all the necessary drivers you will need setting it up.

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LOL. Linux mint is ubuntu remaster. There are so many ubuntu remaster out there. Mint have good comunity support. However i prefered super OS with new idea 'portable linux software'.
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wow, so many remastered version of ubuntu nowadays. Heard about Mint, new distro that has many followers and one of the tops in distrowatch.
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I feel opensuse more like windows than linux. program crash or hang will bring opensuse down.
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mint ok if u know how to disable mintmenu and bring back gnome menu.
i prefered super os (super ubuntu). gnome menu setting like fedora out-of-box.
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I tried a lot of distros before, Ubuntu, Fedora, DSL, Puppy, Sugar, Mint, and my favourite is Fedora 11.

Ubuntu is too... erm... flashy? Although the CLI is still there and all, I don't like the way its marketed, like it's a "dumbed down linux for everyone" kind of thing.

DSL is awesome, just burn or make it bootable on a small flash drive (fits on a 64MB!) and its an awesome recovery tool.

Sugar is experimental, actually for the OLPC program. Very interesting though.
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QUOTE(mimicska @ Nov 3 2009, 11:05 PM)
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Hi, I just dualbooted my Ubuntu 9.04 with Windows. The thing is, why my fonts look so weird in Firefox when surfing LYN?

Anyone knows why? Thanks.


Added on November 10, 2009, 6:05 pm^Nvm, manage to install the mttf thingy and it's nice now. Thanks.

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basicly all is same. some distro is newbie friendly, some is not. some is 'become the leader' some just normal update.

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I just installed opensuse 11.2 into my old amd barton 2500 pc... previously using ubuntu 9.10 and not happy with it although less laggy compare to 9.04.

I think ubuntu is a good start for beginner.

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QUOTE(locco81 @ Nov 20 2009, 09:12 AM)
I just installed opensuse 11.2 into my old amd barton 2500 pc... previously using ubuntu 9.10 and not happy with it although less laggy compare to 9.04.

I think ubuntu is a good start for beginner.
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yes, ubuntu is quite easy for beginner, easy to install and easy to use. You can use wubi if want to install in the windows partition, also you can request for free the cd but have to wait about 5 week la..
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yes, ubuntu is quite easy for beginner, easy to install and easy to use. You can use wubi if want to install in the windows partition, also you can request for free the cd but have to wait about 5 week la..
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What CD? You mean the liveCD? If that's what you mean, everyone can download the iso freely right?
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What CD? You mean the liveCD? If that's what you mean, everyone can download the iso freely right?
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5 week is where you requested the live cd from ubuntu, they will send for free so you have to wait about 5 week
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Owh ok. But creating your own liveCD is faster. Or even better, creating a LiveUSB. No worries of damaged CD biggrin.gif
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yup, i just thinking to create live usb for my laptop for emergency use, want to find tutorial how to create live usb
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yup, i just thinking to create live usb for my laptop for emergency use, want to find tutorial how to create live usb
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You don't have to go for tutorials if you have Ubuntu 9.04 or higher. You can use the USB Startup Disk Creator feature located in System->Administrator to create a liveUSB. Provided that your laptop can boot form CD. So, you need to check your bios whether it can boot from USB or not.

Unless you wants extra knowledge, go for the tutorials. smile.gif

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QUOTE(isolatedSH33P @ Dec 12 2009, 01:14 PM)
You don't have to go for tutorials if you have Ubuntu 9.04 or higher. You can use the USB Startup Disk Creator feature located in System->Administrator to create a liveUSB. Provided that your laptop can boot form CD. So, you need to check your bios whether it can boot from USB or not.

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thank..i just install ubuntu 9.10, haven't explore yet new feature
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hi newbie here. ive been using linux for almost a year now. loving every moment. somehow it makes computing fun again with more things to explore and dabble with

im using xubuntu, and the window manager i switch from time to time between xfce and openbox.

openbox is freaking light man. love it.
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i'm lazy. i dont want install & update & upgrade. i just want 'ready to used distro with many app preinstall'. the bigger iso size the better.

So here we go.
debian stable - oshirix
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Apr 8 2010, 10:59 AM)
i'm lazy. i dont want install & update & upgrade. i just want 'ready to used distro with many app preinstall'. the bigger iso size the better.

So here we go.
debian stable - oshirix
debian testing - epidemic
mandriva - mib live dvd
fedora - comunity fedora remix
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openSUSE x64 DVD. brows.gif
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I am still at 32bit, ok lah tu
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i like the ultima linux


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backtrack 4 final is good to use but still need to install other application to use it..the simple n easier to use is ubuntu but it make you did not feel the life of pure unix in linux user....slackware it the best for me
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hi,

if i want to boot ubuntu from usb, what is the min capacity of thumbdrive i need?

what i see is the iso files is about 700mb rite? when i tried to use the Universal USB Installer, it looks like i need 4.7gb or so....

tq
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minimum cap is 1GB, but 2GB or more is advisable (unless you'd never want to add new apps along the way)


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QUOTE(aishatosh81 @ May 12 2010, 01:27 PM)
i like the ultima linux
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Ultimate Edtion or Ultima Linux? As i know, ultima linux's last release is back on 2008, i tried it before, happy with the preload graphic drivers and codecs rclxms.gif
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MInt is the bests for my laptop...

i only tested 2 distro btw, haha, mint vs ubuntu..

and i prefer gnome over kde, since kde use quite lot of resources (maybe?)
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QUOTE(asm@m @ Jun 25 2010, 03:41 PM)
MInt is the bests for my laptop...

i only tested 2 distro btw, haha, mint vs ubuntu..

and i prefer gnome over kde, since kde use quite lot of resources (maybe?)
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Apr 8 2010, 11:59 AM)
i'm lazy. i dont want install & update & upgrade. i just want 'ready to used distro with many app preinstall'. the bigger iso size the better.

So here we go.
debian stable - oshirix
debian testing - epidemic
mandriva - mib live dvd
fedora - comunity fedora remix
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for your info,Oshirix right now using debian squeeze brows.gif
QUOTE

Squeeze is the development codename for the next version of Debian. It is the current testing distribution.

Debian/Squeeze Life cycle

    *2008-09-01 : Distribution codename announced
    *2009-07-29 : Debian want to adopt time-based release freezes, see announcement
    *2009-10-18 : DebianSqueeze development freeze should be in March 2010, see announcement.
    *2010-02-08 : The release team announced that a freeze in March is highly unlikely, see announcement


http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze
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so what ? i post on apr 8, oshirix sqeeze come out on apr 12.

I feel debian sqeeze or oshirix become bloatware. Double file size but have same app like oshirix 2009 SPE (700mb)

Now im happy with Pardus. CD install 680mb come with KDE 4.4.4, OOo, GIMP, java, smplayer, K3B, etc etc.
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Jun 26 2010, 09:22 AM)
so what ? i post on apr 8, oshirix sqeeze come out on apr 12.

I feel debian sqeeze or oshirix become bloatware. Double file size but have same app like oshirix 2009 SPE (700mb)

Now im happy with Pardus. CD install 680mb come with KDE 4.4.4, OOo, GIMP, java, smplayer, K3B, etc etc.
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oshirix seems quite large, doubled size sweat.gif

is that on KDE?
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QUOTE(GameSky @ Jun 26 2010, 08:58 AM)
oshirix seems quite large, doubled size sweat.gif

is that on KDE?
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LXDE.
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latest oshirix(debian squeeze) is about 1.5 gb
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hi all.... just made it booting OpenSUSE using usb drive.. yeay..

tried a few usb installer, but the only works for me is Mandriva Seed.

now, i can use SUSE anywhere... nice!!!

p/s - gonna try 11.3 soon smile.gif
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good. Now start your new openSUSE 11.3 RC2.
Then run mandriva seed or unetbootin.
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QUOTE(khairuls @ Jun 18 2010, 04:24 PM)
hi,

if i want to boot ubuntu from usb, what is the min capacity of thumbdrive i need?

what i see is the iso files is about 700mb rite? when i tried to use the Universal USB Installer, it looks like i need 4.7gb or so....

tq
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finally... just finished installing opensuse 11.3. after 6 month of frustration and torment on ubuntu.
welcome back home. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jul 23 2010, 11:10 PM)
finally... just finished installing opensuse 11.3. after 6 month of frustration and torment on ubuntu.
welcome back home. rclxm9.gif
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hahaha .. what's wrong with ubuntu?
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for your info,Oshirix right now using debian squeeze  brows.gif
FYI, Debian Squeeze will eventually fall into the Stable branch once Squeeze is officially released.
You'll have to edit your sources.list and change the sources from "Squeeze" to "Testing" (and maybe disable any Apt pinning you have associated with Squeeze) in order for it to remain the Testing branch indefinitely. Having said that, I don't use Oshirix, so maybe the dev has already sorted the sources for you.

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 28 2010, 02:19 PM)
FYI, Debian Squeeze will eventually fall into the Stable branch once Squeeze is officially released.
You'll have to edit your sources.list and change the sources from "Squeeze" to "Testing" (and maybe disable any Apt pinning you have associated with Squeeze) in order for it to remain the Testing branch indefinitely. Having said that, I don't use Oshirix, so maybe the dev has already sorted the sources for you.
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well, it's not released yet, right? hmm.gif
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well, it's not released yet, right?  hmm.gif
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Yes, for now Squeeze and Testing sources/repos are the same.

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how many different distributions have you used?
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how many different distributions have you used?
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Is this question for me?
If so;
I've used Linux for a decade, so I've tried quite a lot. Red Hat, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Lunar, Fedora, Cent, Arch, LFS, Caldera, Craftworks, Crux ... too many to count.... also lots of BSD variants.
Nowadays I'm too lazy for source based distros like Gentoo or Lunar, so I just stick to Debian, Slack, Arch or OpenBSD for most of my comps. I don't really have a preference, but I'm most comfortable with Aptitude, Portage or Pkg syntax (Arch's Yaourt always makes me feel tile typing 'yoghurt', for some strange reason)

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 29 2010, 08:32 PM)
Is this question for me?
If so;
I've used Linux for a decade, so I've tried quite a lot. Red Hat, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Lunar, Fedora, Cent, Arch, LFS, Caldera, Craftworks, Crux ... too many to count.... also lots of BSD variants.
Nowadays I'm too lazy for source based distros like Gentoo or Lunar, so I just stick to Debian, Slack, Arch or OpenBSD for most of my comps. I don't really have a preference, but I'm most comfortable with Aptitude, Portage or Pkg syntax (Arch's Yaourt always makes me feel tile typing 'yoghurt', for some strange reason)
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thanks for the reply,
so what the most serious Debian bug since you have been using it? sweat.gif
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thanks for the reply,
so what the most serious Debian bug since you have been using it?  sweat.gif
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Do you understand what you're asking? ... you expect me to write a whole paragraph?

Anyways, I can't pinpoint one single bug, but most problems I've had was with Xorg (mainly from Sid or Experimental sources)
My other problems/bugs are mostly Zen kernel related, so it's not directly related to Debian's development.

Short answer: Biggest bug for all Malaysians (any OS) is always TM/Streamyx. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 30 2010, 12:58 AM)
Do you understand what you're asking? ... you expect me to write a whole paragraph?

Anyways, I can't pinpoint one single bug, but most problems I've had was with Xorg (mainly from Sid or Experimental sources)
My other problems/bugs are mostly Zen kernel related, so it's not directly related to Debian's development.

Short answer: Biggest bug for all Malaysians (any OS) is always TM/Streamyx. tongue.gif
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that

it's not a bug...

it's a plague...
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that

it's not a bug...

it's a plague...
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Thank goodness I go back to S'pore next week. =P
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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 30 2010, 01:58 AM)
Do you understand what you're asking? ... you expect me to write a whole paragraph?

Anyways, I can't pinpoint one single bug, but most problems I've had was with Xorg (mainly from Sid or Experimental sources)
My other problems/bugs are mostly Zen kernel related, so it's not directly related to Debian's development.

Short answer: Biggest bug for all Malaysians (any OS) is always TM/Streamyx. tongue.gif
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haha sorry laa.. just asking a noobie question sweat.gif
well done for the Debian developers for responding so efficiently whenever serious bugs are discovered. wink.gif

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Using Ubuntu for my laptop. Really hassle free.
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is there any website that provide downloading other than ISO file... maybe like RAR or ZIP... coz at my office they block downloading ISO file... sad.gif

thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(2uk3y @ Aug 3 2010, 11:48 AM)
is there any website that provide downloading other than ISO file... maybe like RAR or ZIP... coz at my office they block downloading ISO file... sad.gif

thanks biggrin.gif
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use rapidlich free service. download iso to rapidlich server, rename, download to pc.


Added on August 4, 2010, 9:04 pmJust testing linux mint 9 KDE.
The best KDE base distro (without KDE bug like *toot*)
with latest KDE 4.4.5
Contain no puseaudio, no mono, no MSG
Good preinstall software selection
Come with synaptic, wine, java, gdebi-kde, chrome, virtualbox etc
Detect pardus linux installations fedora 13 and some debian base distro miss.
Default uuid is 500 dont know how to change to 1000
Power by ubuntu, enhanced by Mint


Added on August 7, 2010, 8:49 amoh. After using mint 9 KDE for 2 days, I switch back to pardus. Nobody perfect.

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A question to anyone who uses openSUSE.

Does anyone know whether I can install it on a hard disk without having to reformat it - if a partition out of the existing free space can be created before its installation, it would be helpful if you can link me to any how-tos. Been looking for it but I don't quite understand what needs to be done....

EDIT: Nevermind, found a solution. However I'm not too keen on doing it, maybe I'll try it some other time ._.

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 29 2010, 07:32 PM)
Is this question for me?
If so;
I've used Linux for a decade, so I've tried quite a lot. Red Hat, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Lunar, Fedora, Cent, Arch, LFS, Caldera, Craftworks, Crux ... too many to count.... also lots of BSD variants.
Nowadays I'm too lazy for source based distros like Gentoo or Lunar, so I just stick to Debian, Slack, Arch or OpenBSD for most of my comps. I don't really have a preference, but I'm most comfortable with Aptitude, Portage or Pkg syntax (Arch's Yaourt always makes me feel tile typing 'yoghurt', for some strange reason)
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wow...thats quite a distro-hopping..it's nice to have experience with many distros... notworthy.gif
just to clear things up, Yaourt is not Arch's official package manager..Pacman is. Of course you will feel _weird_ when using unofficial package. laugh.gif


For new user who wants to learn and gets your hand dirty diving into linux, try to install Slackware or Debian, these are among the oldest of the old GNU/Linux distrobutions. When you're familiar with these two..later can try to install LFS, Crux.. just to name a few..

For those who just like to try linux and use it pretty much like Windows..use Ubuntu/Fedora or any Ubuntu/Fedora derivatives.

Try to avoid Gentoo as much as you can.. laugh.gif

Take note that there's no such things as distro A is better than B vice versa...it is boils down to your preference and experience only..


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Just to repeat a question I posted in the Official Ubuntu thread:

Anyone here uses KDE 4.5 in their distro? As in upgrading your KDE into it? How's the performance? I find KWin to be lacking in performance for my laptop, which is a disappointment since I upgraded straight from 4.4.2, which handled my laptop without much problem. And yes it is a KWin-specific problem that I had to make KDE use Compiz as window manager instead; and poof the lags went away without a hitch. sad.gif

EDIT: It turns out that KWin's desktop effect "Blur" is the culprit behind this. No wonder la so slow one! rclxub.gif Now disabled, everything went good already thumbup.gif

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finally... just finished installing opensuse 11.3. after 6 month of frustration and torment on ubuntu.
welcome back home. rclxm9.gif
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review pls!!!!

downloaded few weeks ago...still don't have time to install it smile.gif)

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Opensuse 11.3 is good KDE base distro. If u never use opensuse, the installer need some trick else u will format wrong partition.

For multimedia playback, just install smplayer. It will download all releven dependency codec plus more.

One thing i dont like opensuse is software manager will preselect app i never ask to install or update. Just enable pacman repo, click ok, then it want to download adobe flash, java, etc.

Opensuse 11.3 dont have pluseaudio problem like mandriva 2010.1

I wander why it still call 11.x than opensuse 14.
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thanks for the review.... maybe i'll make times to do the installation smile.gif
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QUOTE(khairuls @ Aug 20 2010, 03:01 PM)
thanks for the review.... maybe i'll make times to do the installation smile.gif
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yooo kerul, new to opensuse don't you? For the beginning I recommend you to opt for gnome as it is much easier to configure, at least for this 11.3 version.
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Aug 18 2010, 04:05 PM)
Opensuse 11.3 is good KDE base distro. If u never use opensuse, the installer need some trick else u will format wrong partition.

For multimedia playback, just install smplayer. It will download all releven dependency codec plus more.

One thing i dont like opensuse is software manager will preselect app i never ask to install or update. Just enable pacman repo, click ok, then it want to download adobe flash, java, etc.

Opensuse 11.3 dont have pluseaudio problem like mandriva 2010.1

I wander why it still call 11.x than opensuse 14.
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i prefer VLC for multimedia.
smplayer is..uh.. i hate the way it seek based on keyframe (compared to VLC's exact time seeking).

but imho opensuse partition setup is quite 'usable' and easy to understand , compared to some other distro that try to hide most of option, making it even more confusing(especially on bootloader config). rclxub.gif

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VLC has lousy support for .mkv and h.264
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I have recently made a jump to ArchLinux, after been dabbing with Ubuntu for almost 1 year. Nothing wrong with Ubuntu, just that now I feel more comfortable using rolling release based distro, everything gets updated very quickly

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_C...r_Distributions
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VLC has lousy support for .mkv and h.264
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yes but that was the old version. too many quirks. no sound when subtitle appeared, no sub when sound os ok arrghh..

use latest beta.
dunno if they has put it on repo or not, but i did compile my own current VLC from beta source.
latest VLC run my HD h.264 with no glitch. biggrin.gif

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True here, VLC has no problem paying with mkv.
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well, what is Linux Mint "Debian" - Linux Mint Debian (201009)
i just find out here http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php
anyone has tried it ? it's should be similiar with debian squeeze?

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yes. Linux Mint Debian is debian testing base distro. U already have problem with debian. This Mint Debian more or less will have the same problem.
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Isn't Mint based on Ubuntu which in turn is based on Debian?
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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Sep 9 2010, 03:30 PM)
Isn't Mint based on Ubuntu which in turn is based on Debian?
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so some different in command line like no need to put sudo
just su
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linux mint (with number) is 100% ubuntu compatible.
linux mint debian is 100% debian testing compatible. Mint using testing repo not squeeze repo. For now squeeze and testing repo contain same thing.

When squeeze become stable, testing will get update from unstable repo. Distro with squeeze repo will stuck with same version unless security update or bug fix. This is where backport come in or comunity backport repo like used by mepis.


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why linux mint can have audio and video codec to play video, music but not ubuntu?
on ubuntu, we need to do some of apt-get update to play some media file, while on linux mint ,that not necessary,it's already comes with live packages

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QUOTE(scorps @ Sep 10 2010, 01:24 PM)
why linux mint can have audio and video codec to play video, music but not ubuntu?
on ubuntu, we need to do some of apt-get update to play some media file, while on linux mint ,that not necessary,it's already comes with live packages
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Linux Mint is a mix of free software and proprietary software, unlike Ubuntu which restricts itself to (mainly) free software. Most audio/video codecs that we know of have a proprietary license, in which we must install the necessary packages first to play them.
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All main linux distro not support proprietary restricted codec out of box. The one support proprietary restricted codec out of box is child distro (not distro by their own) or small project like PCLinuxOS, Pardus.
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I am thinking to try out Linux Mint, side by side with my current opensuse. Many reviews just too good for me to resist it.
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Hi guys. Just stumble upon this forum which I thought Linux did not exist. Anyway I've been using Ubuntu since last year. Started with Ubuntu 8.10 and now using Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx. Everything works out of the box.

Have try other Distro on another older computer but some of them couldn't recognize my USB wifi adapter which is Aztech. It uses Ralink rt73usb driver and firmware I think. So how or where do I download the source and compile it or make it work on Debian or any Linux in general.
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When we always read the top most distros like ubunto, fedora, mint or opensuse, once the great mandrake a.k.a mandriva is now dying due to financial crisis sad.gif . Back then I always admire mandrake for it's most beautiful appearance of desktop.

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The cooker community is hot these days. A lot of Mandriva employees have announced their resignation from the Mandriva company. This is occuring as following to the death of Edge-IT (subsidary of the Mandriva firm) which was employing lots of employees working around the core of the Mandriva distribution.

The rest of the stories can be read here. Same similar articles published in distrowatch as well.

The funny thing is someone has post a bug no 60936 to mandriva's bugzilla which is rated under severity critical biggrin.gif
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Description of problem:

After I installed the most recent version of Mandriva Linux, staff started to
leave the company. THe better the release and the more I use it, the more
people leave.

How reproducible:

Install Mandriva Linux ans wait for people to leave the company.

(I'd like to see this colsed as FIXED...)


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The problem with 'mandriva the company' managment is they dont care about mandriva user/comunity.
For so long malaysia not in mandriva country list.
Mandriva 2010.1 come with many KDE4 and pluseaudio bug.

The great mandriva distro will continue under unity Linux..
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well, i'm also tried fedora, linux mint, debian, ubuntu,
still i dont find the different between these distro..
urmm maybe it's because of Gnome, KDe, so it look same view..
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just tried fedora 13 yesterday... its yum package management is slooowwww.. slow as slowpoke i can say rclxub.gif
update just stuck at 20kB/s while on ubuntu/linuxmint or any debian based distro i can get 45kB/s..
and yes i know fedora can use apt-get combined with synaptic package manager, and i've done that already, but the problem comes from its sloooww repo server.lol.
so today i'm back with linuxmint 9 lxde tongue.gif

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have u install yum plug-in fasters mirror ?
in my pc, fedora will use id, in, sometime uk repo mirror.
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yup if i install that fastest mirror plugin i can get 20kB/s.. on default install only get 15kB/s.. on ubuntu/linuxmint or any debian derivatives i've already got 45kB/s without any plugin whatsoever. lol.
also yum intends to hang on my fedora. got error about some process still using it
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u will get better response if u post new topic. fedora/debian is no 2 malaysia popular distro. i use both. fedora user forum also very friendly. at least they never said "stop blaming fedora".

slow fedora repo nothing u can do. ubuntu got six official local repo. i dont know if ubuntu paid them. fedora local repo mirror no longer update.

fedora using yumex not recommend using synaptic/apt-get.


Added on September 19, 2010, 9:37 pm
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well, i'm also tried fedora, linux mint, debian, ubuntu,
still i dont find the different between these distro..
urmm maybe it's because of Gnome, KDe, so it look same view..
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Try slackware, arch, frugalware, gentoo for more linux fun.
I think BSD family even better.

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An interview with one of the Gnome 3 developers, a new word created that Gnome Shell is not sort of terminal emulator as what I thought earlier tongue.gif
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Gnome Shell with Multiple Workspaces

(Laughs) The shell in a desktop environment is the part of the desktop that deals with some core functions: launching applications, switching between windows, shutting down the computer, etc. This is obviously a term that end-users shouldn’t care much about. We’ve redesigned this part of the GNOME desktop for GNOME 3, and the name of this project is GNOME Shell. That’s why we often talk about it :-)

So what old-timers call a windowmanager and a panel?

Kind of, yes.


The rest of the contents can be read here.

btw, from the facebook I just 'unlike' the Gnome group, mana dia punya admin, tido ka? mad.gif many the get-to-rich scheme plague, KDE fb group is more active and well maintained by it's admin.

opps! doh.gif supposed to post at desktop environment notworthy.gif

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anyone know about this one ? http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=302632090975
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QUOTE(scorps @ Sep 20 2010, 05:42 PM)
from their official site here , it said

CODE
My1os can be find at any retail throughout Malaysia.


a commercial linux? lol

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just another ubuntu derivative

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QUOTE(axxer @ Sep 20 2010, 08:27 PM)
from their official site here , it said

CODE
My1os can be find at any retail throughout Malaysia.


a commercial linux? lol
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it's based on ubuntu , right? but i dont see any link to download the iso file..
maybe we must order first?
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I was wondering what kind of DE was it using until it occured to me that they're using GNOME... hahahahah. laugh.gif
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Since there are no spesel thread about opensource news in general, lemme me put some highlight about the next fate of Mandriva. Welcome Mageia, good bye Mandriva?

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Mageia – A New Linux Distribution

Paris, September 18th 2010

As you may have heard, the future of the Mandriva Linux distribution is unclear.

Most employees working on the distribution were laid off when Edge-IT was liquidated. We do not trust the plans of Mandriva SA anymore and we don't think the company (or any company) is a safe host for such a project.

Many things have happened in the past 12 years. Some were very nice: the Mandriva Linux community is quite large, motivated and experienced, the distribution remains one of the most popular and an award-winning product, easy to use and innovative. Some other events did have some really bad consequences that made people not so confident in the viability of their favourite distribution.

People working on it just do not want to be dependent on the economic fluctuations and erratic, unexplained strategic moves of the company.
The news can be read here at www.mageia.org

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mandriva the company and the distro still alive
Mandriva news by the board
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from Indonesia,
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i think it's just like Ubuntu Sabily(Muslim version )
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Ubuntu my1os BETA v1.2-8 has been release. They are looking for BETA tester. Anyone interested, do contact them via Facebook Group.
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Where to download my1os ?
The website is down for maintenance. Please check back again soon.
The beta iso is nowhere.

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Apart from my currently running opensuse 11.3, I am in the mid of downloading the ubuntu 10.10 derivative, Linux Mint 10 rc 64bit. Got another 80gb sata spare hdd to be intall into it. Just wandering if rc can be easily updated to stable release which will be out any near time.
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openSUSE 11.3 Not Good Enough ?

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QUOTE(pcbase @ Oct 19 2010, 01:42 PM)
openSUSE 11.3 Not Good Enough ?
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Good as usual, been together since 2004 rclxms.gif just want trying out something different with the new community.
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Actually O.o whats the purpose of 1 Malaysia OS development ?? Getting users to Linux @@? Malaysia should really promote Ubuntu though ^^
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Good as usual, been together since 2004  rclxms.gif just want trying out something different with the new community.
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I am in a sensed too eager trying out another distro, yesterday I managed to install linux mint 10 rc 64bit, but due to unknown reason the pc restarted whenever it tries to boot sweat.gif

And today, I am downloading Ultimate Edition 2.8 64bit, it is the latest stable release based on ubuntu 10.10. Hopefully the download can be complete before I am off to home at 6 this evening icon_rolleyes.gif
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i already installed ubuntu ultimate edition 2.7, but after all update&upgrade, still i comfortable using debian than ubuntu.. dont know why got that feelings..
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ohh syith! grub2 used by mint overrule the legacy grub used by opensuse, after removing the hdd used by mint, I am unable to boot to opensuse. Reinstalling the opensuse grub doesn't work.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Oct 21 2010, 10:37 AM)
ohh syith! grub2 used by mint overrule the legacy grub used by opensuse, after removing the hdd used by mint, I am unable to boot to opensuse. Reinstalling the opensuse grub doesn't work.
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update-grub2

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QUOTE(pcbase @ Oct 22 2010, 02:13 AM)
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os-prober
update-grub2

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Thanks, managed to repair the grub using parted magic boot cd http://partedmagic.com/ , someone gave me the wrong version which does not have the grub command... or the newer version they already stripped the grub function? hmm

Anyway, are using the Ultimate as your siggy says it? just got my Ultimate Edition 2.8 64bit, I am going to try it this evening. From the reviews this distro sounds so good rclxm9.gif
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Ultimate Edition 1.6 (hardy base) is my first the best linux distro back in year 2008. At that time not so many 'yet another ubuntu remaster' like today .

Ultimate Edition suitable for
1) new linux user who dont know what is the name of linux apps and for what.
2) user without unlimited internet broadband

Personally i dont like ultimate black thema.
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QUOTE(pcbase @ Oct 22 2010, 12:53 PM)
Ultimate Edition 1.6 (hardy base) is my first the best linux distro back in year 2008. At that time not so many 'yet another ubuntu remaster' like today .

Ultimate Edition suitable for
1) new linux user who dont know what is the name of linux apps and for what.
2) user without unlimited internet broadband

Personally i dont like ultimate black thema.
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i'm also running my notebook using Ubuntu Ultimate edition, there's lot of useful things. but i feel more comfortable by using debian testing sweat.gif
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ultimate edition so bloated. not my cup of tea. just recently using Mint Debian for desktop use. I just like the green.
for server I prefer centos or debian lenny depend on purpose and client...

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ultimate edition so bloated ?
it more like full distro.
Bro u never try PC-BSD.
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I don't have much time to install the ultimate, hopefully tomorrow I am able to do it. yup I do think Ultimate is perfect out of the box from what most of the reviews say.

Mint 10 RC, I had several tough time in trying to make the X come out. Sort of Nvidia gc does not so friendly I think. Already set sort of advices to put the parameter nomodeset, nvidia nomodeset, vesa... etc etc still x can't find my monitor, but I know the system is running at background. Maybe I need to wait for their stable release.


Added on October 24, 2010, 11:42 amJust to update the preview of Ultimate Edition 2.8 from the bootable cd, yup I agree they do bundled it with lotsa applications, which the most we no longer need to search and download again from the internet. Hassle free to find restricted codecs, it just works out of the box which will be great for linux newbies. The default theme, omg! so striking blue and it hurts my eyes haha, but they include together with tons of themes to choose with. However they too much under the shadow of ubuntu 10.10 except they add more apps and themes as a make up.

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Oct 23 2010, 01:59 PM)

Added on October 24, 2010, 11:42 amJust to update the preview of Ultimate Edition 2.8 from the bootable cd, yup I agree they do bundled it with lotsa applications, which the most we no longer need to search and download again from the internet. Hassle free to find restricted codecs, it just works out of the box which will be great for linux newbies. The default theme, omg! so striking blue and it hurts my eyes haha, but they include together with tons of themes to choose with. However they too much under the shadow of ubuntu 10.10 except they add more apps and themes as a make up.
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yeah the Gnome theme for Ubuntu ultimate edition so weird i think.. hahaha.. feel not comfortable, then switch XCFE desktop manager...
but still i running with debian squeeze.. biggrin.gif
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just playing Ultimate Edition 2.8 with virtualbox.
No KDE4, smplayer, oracle virtualbox.

using synaptic, remove all ultimate edition thema, mono-runtime, social networking shit.
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Just installed Linux Mint 10 RC into the hdd. Quite tricky to turn the x on. Just to share my initial findings, this distro not so friendly into certain nvidia gc. After the grub, no x.. screen at the saving mode. Workaround, in grub hit 'tab' and 'e', between the row of kernel parameters insert 'nomodeset' just before the 'quiet splash' and ctrl+x to reboot. In opensuse, nvidia gc by default nouveau driver will be loaded. 'nomodeset' only to be use whenever the proprietary nvidia driver to be install. The best about this distro, tons of apps is waiting for us as the repos already there compare to opensuse the repos need to be create manually. Linux mint and ubuntu are sharing the same repos.


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QUOTE(pcbase @ Oct 30 2010, 01:37 PM)
just playing Ultimate Edition 2.8 with virtualbox.
No KDE4, smplayer, oracle virtualbox.

using synaptic, remove all ultimate edition thema, mono-runtime, social networking shit.
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what's the social networking shit u mentions above? doh.gif
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 2 2010, 09:17 PM)
Just installed Linux Mint 10 RC into the hdd. Quite tricky to turn the x on. Just to share my initial findings, this distro not so friendly into certain nvidia gc. After the grub, no x.. screen at the saving mode. Workaround, in grub hit 'tab' and 'e', between the row of kernel parameters insert 'nomodeset' just before the 'quiet splash' and ctrl+x to reboot. In opensuse, nvidia gc by default nouveau driver will be loaded.  'nomodeset' only to be use whenever the proprietary nvidia driver to be install. The best about this distro, tons of apps is waiting for us as the repos already there compare to opensuse the repos need to be create manually. Linux mint and ubuntu are sharing the same repos.
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how about this code? :
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nouveau.modeset=0


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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 2 2010, 08:17 PM)
Linux mint and ubuntu are sharing the same repos.
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linux mint IS ubuntu remaster. Linux mint is not linux distro by their own.
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QUOTE(scorps @ Nov 3 2010, 10:53 AM)
how about this code? :
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did follow the suggestions by some of them either nouveau.modeset=0 (or1), nvidia.modeset=0 (or1)... neither worked. Googled further about mint and nvidia 9400gt problem, the only working solution I am getting is by insert the nomodeset just before quiet splash. With proper nvidia driver now everything just fine with correct reso 1440x900.

#fat16, noted to that. Thanks.
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Have tried Ubuntu 9.10, Mandriva 2010 and openSUSE 11.2 & found that Ubuntu 9.10 have the really useful features of KMS and GRUB2
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Maybe the lightest ever...

user posted image

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Have u all heard bout Zorin OS ? I'm currently using it now .. I'm very new to linux .. Just booted live from the CD and now i'm on it ! Effects and graphics seems cool .. LOL !!
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Nov 5 2010, 06:25 PM)
Have u all heard bout Zorin OS ? I'm currently using it now .. I'm very new to linux .. Just booted live from the CD and now i'm on it ! Effects and graphics seems cool .. LOL !!
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Zorin os? here http://zorin-os.webs.com/
well, it's look like another version of ubuntu remaster,, just like ultimate edition and etc..
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hi guys..can anyone recommend a good open source OS for me?..i want a nice appearance and good performance...i m stuck between OpenSuse and Ubuntu 10.10...

i need some opinion... biggrin.gif
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u need try yourself which distro / desktop work better for u.
How about PCLinuxOS ?

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Nov 8 2010, 09:32 AM)
hi guys..can anyone recommend a good open source OS for me?..i want a nice appearance and good performance...i m stuck between OpenSuse and Ubuntu 10.10...

i need some opinion... biggrin.gif
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Suggest you to try Ubuntu 10.10, great hardware support~
Awesome so far.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Nov 8 2010, 11:13 AM)
u need try yourself which distro / desktop work better for u.
How about PCLinuxOS ?
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PCLinuxOS got a great support by community eh?
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Suggest you to try Ubuntu 10.10, great hardware support~
Awesome so far.. tongue.gif
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ya..i m really interested in ubuntu...but i just want to know if opensuse is much nicer... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Nov 8 2010, 01:42 PM)
ya..i m really interested in ubuntu...but i just want to know if opensuse is much nicer... biggrin.gif
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currently using opensuse, niceeeee....  thumbup.gif
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OpenSUSE is really nice Linux, their interface also awesome~
How bout hardware support compare to Ubuntu?
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post Nov 9 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Nov 9 2010, 01:31 PM)
OpenSUSE is really nice Linux, their interface also awesome~
How bout hardware support compare to Ubuntu?
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dude, nowadays most hardwares are being supported by GNU/linux

the only notable difference between them are the volume of patches and hot fixes
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Thats good, nice to hear that tongue.gif
But I think I just stick with Maverick for time being~
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post Nov 9 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Nov 9 2010, 01:31 PM)
OpenSUSE is really nice Linux, their interface also awesome~
How bout hardware support compare to Ubuntu?
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Used it since from my old skool pentium 4, for several brand of mobos, few laptops, and currently running on my socket 775 + hp mini 110 netbook. At most, all drivers are included. thumbup.gif


Added on November 12, 2010, 10:03 pmwokey, just to update the latest

Linux Mint Gnome 10 "Julia" final has been released, get your copy today! thumbup.gif

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UBUNTU 10.10 is the best UBUNTU ever. Very fast distro even on old hardware... try it. Already test UBUNTU on SSD... 5 second boot... lol... amazing
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Nov 9 2010, 02:52 PM)
wokey, just to update the latest Linux Mint Gnome 10 "Julia" final has been released, get your copy today!  thumbup.gif
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which better about performance n UI...ubuntu or linux mint???
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Nov 16 2010, 03:25 PM)
which better about performance n UI...ubuntu or linux mint???
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I do not know about how does ubuntu looks alike and how it performed as I never used it. Eventhough linux Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu and their latest release 10 is based on Maverick, as I can understand the Mint team polished it by ironing out the bugs that exists in Ubuntu and that's why the are now in 3rd runner in Distrowatch.

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mint is just another ubuntu. I hate mintmenu and mint autodownload without asking my permision.
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Nov 17 2010, 09:25 AM)
mint is just another ubuntu. I hate mintmenu and mint autodownload without asking my permision.
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Menu wise should be no problem to me as the menu is similar to opensuse, but I like opensuse more as the next application tab will take me to a larger applications menu screen. Are you referring to update manager don't you? I started Mint with version 10, I never encountered any autodownload. If there are any patches or upgrades it will show only the list and up to users whether want to do the upgrade or ignoring it.

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The Update Manager
If you're not interested in receiving updates for a particular package, simply right click on it and tell the Update Manager to ignore updates for this package. The package will then be added to your "ignore" list and you won't receive any updates for it in the future. The Update Manager now also shows you the size of your selected updates, so you know how much data you're about to download.


I believed the situation is different in version 10 and upwards.
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Nov 17 2010, 10:25 AM)
mint is just another ubuntu. I hate mintmenu and mint autodownload without asking my permision.
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mint autodownload for apt-get update & upgrade? can disable?
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mint 9 KDE
First reboot after install before login, mint auto download language pack.
Then after KDE desktop come out, Mint download something ...
Mint install/remove app will remove system file without warning.
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QUOTE(fat16 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:19 PM)
mint 9 KDE
First reboot after install before login, mint auto download language pack.
Then after KDE desktop come out, Mint download something ...
Mint install/remove app will remove system file without warning.
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I see, there was auto download language pack as I am experienced it too in this 10. But just to confirm, there will be status indicator tray showing that update manager offers new patches/upgrades available but no auto download as before, 10 currently running on Gnome 2.32, KDE I think won't be far away.


Added on November 20, 2010, 12:04 pmuser posted image Added one to the crowd, Unity Linux! another distribution that took Enlightenment as their default. This is not the "Unity" that Ubuntu going to jump for their next release.

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We have another Unite17! A few sentences of the changes: brand-new exterior and interior, because I took the liberty of using the testing repositories. E17 at least not alpha, but beta - of course, there are still some annoying bugs, such as that if you want to start an application, which would need administrator rights, some incomprehensible error message appears; transparency works with minimum of memory while in use; the minimum system requirements at least PIII 900 MHz processor and at least 384 MB of RAM, OpenGL compatible graphics card; the CD image size is 2.5 GB, so it's not small; new Linux kernel (2.6.35.7), updated applications, and two new browser add-ons - Chrome TV plugin, which allows all the available Internet TV broadcast monitored, and an open-source YouTube video downloading add-on


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More to dig about them here at http://unity-linux.org/unite17_2010_02-available/


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