For Trace/Ping result refer here..


For extra info on iBurst, go here
Wiki Link

Kyrocera IBurst webside
Manufacturer Link

For Extra Technical eg Bandwidth Calculation & Etc go here
Technical Link

If your interested /w Izzi, you can go here and contact some agents for testing @ your location...
Izzi Agent Forum

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Verdict So far..

1. Performance of wireless varies according to ..
a, area
b, number of users per-tower
c, wireless signal

2. Best to say at the moment,
a, some users have above average performance 70%
b, some users have crap performance
c, network bandwidth issues..
d, slow refund times..

3. Service is only average at most

Continue discussion here, another thing to note is wimax is "due" to launch soon middle or maybe 3rd quarter of the year, so izzi will be in a tough field if performance isn't up to par with wimax...

please PM me any important info, that should be on the first page okie..

CHeers

This post has been edited by JinXXX: Feb 22 2008, 11:00 AM

Tested from my office

Chulan Tower, Jalan Conlay

for gaming izzit stable?

well gaming is latency/time sensitive..
i kinda doubt wireless technology is suitable for that kinda of application..

anybody got the latest ping time results ???

anyone staying in vista commanwealth using izzi?
just wanna compare what speed do u get.

ping is too high for any kind of online gaming. almost half a second of lag

later tonite i put my result from vista impiana, tmn bukit serdang.....

anybody in damnsara area using it? can tell me abt the coverage there? coz i'm gonna apply for my office.pls pm me...will really apeciate it

did i said vista commanwealth ?

you could always arrange a time for a test run. test the speed yourself. If you feel that's okay then buy it lo. If you doesn't like the speed, no harm trying it again in future.

anyone using izzi service in ampang lembah maju ? i would like to know hows the connection speed . issit stable? i hav gone through the v1 thread but i still dun get the conclusion..all i got almost in negative feedback =( coz my gf planning to subscribe wireless broadband..she ask me to suggest her and at tat moment i think of this..but after i gone through so many pages from v1 then i realize that it is kinda sux from the beginning till today.

This post has been edited by sam0919: Feb 23 2008, 05:32 PM

you've got PM sam

Here from Vista Impiana Taman Bukit Serdang

Speed from damansara perdana using Sri Pentas tower when 100% signal strength is about 300kbps during peak and can reach 400kps during non-peak.. not recommended due to their poor service...

Hi all,

New to here, but I have comments to make and queries to ask....

Comments:
1. I subscibed IZZI and mine package is the via usb package....
Bitcomet : 120kbps(max) @sunway university college condo
58kbps(max) @home near wangsa maju

*BComet running under encrpyted mode <not sure whether it affects speed or not...>

2. When I connect the modem, I get limited connectivity, got annoyed...<help perhaps??>

3. Got dc occasionally, especially when I on it for the whole night for download and RO bots...

4. Weather doesnt affects much but height is an influencial factor...<I live in 5th floor of a condo near college>

5. Slight adjustment will cause major change in speed...

6. No prob in playing Gunbound and RO but in RO lags sometimes...

7. Line speed keeps changing... <NOT EVEN CLOSE TO STABLE>

8. Surf the net while in a moving car? Think again... <OR DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!>

Queries:
1. How to get rid of the limited connectivity?

2. Where can I get my hands on the antenna? Low Yat have one?

3. Anyone can tell me the current price of PSP?

P/S: Above is all on the basis of factual events, I personally, have no intention in sabotaj act or in intention to mislead and confront any third party. And hence, not responsible in any events of suffering to anyone involved.

Regards,
williamyoon

i'm now using izzi, not worth paying RM98/month co zi'm experiencing almost the same problem as williamyoon. Saying in Cheras. Always dc. Even dc when i'm using normal surfing actvt like checking email @ gmail or yahoo. when i wan to reconnect, i have to plug out the terminal and plug in again. Otherwise i will get error message. it's troublesome. sometime connection speed is as slow as dial up modem. I'm staying at 12 floor. The agent told me d higher d better for izzi, but it's just sucks. Anybody has solution for me?

First of all, which part of Cheras are you staying at? I stay at Pandan Indah but i do not get any disconnection. p2p ain't a problem for me as the speed is more or less similiar to my previous streamyx 1Mb. The reason i terminated streamyx because is more expensive than izziyou.

I would say that most of your problem is your setting up configuration? And as for what agents told you, its true. the higher the better. but it also have to depend if the area is covered or not. Thats why, it would be best that you do a test run before purchasing it.

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Added on February 29, 2008, 12:08 amSincerely,
Eric

This post has been edited by Anodize: Feb 29 2008, 12:08 AM

Eric,

I only know of the rm38 antenna , is there any other type that is available ??? fyi i'm using the izziYou.

as for william, you are getting 120KBps or 120kbps ??? lotsa different there ... if 120KBps, that would be reaching the MAX of 1Mbps line and i would be very happy if i were u

There is actually another type... but i am not sure if its for sale. I'll have to look it up for you... keep this thread in tracked...

As for william, i believe he is getting the full 120KBps cuz the base station is some where there... 120KBps x 8 = 960 Kbps

Ok, I'm curious to know if anyone has had a similar experience as I have:

I signed up with iZZi, and during the first week, the speed was fantastic. But after the first week, my speed started dropping, to the point where it is now officially slower than what I used to get from Streamyx.

And I'm not even talking about torrents. I'm just trying to surf the web and play Scrabulous on Facebook. And I'm sitting here, twiddling my thumbs, waiting for the damned pages to load.

iZZi support has been pretty lousy. I took screenshots of my bandwidth speed tests and sent it to them nearly a month ago. Called a few times since then to follow-up, but they just keep saying that they've notified their tech people and they'll get back to me soon.

I've got 100% signal strength, and I got really good speed during my first week of subscription, so I doubt it's an issue with my location, the coverage area, or any of my network settings. Nothing has changed.

I never thought I'd encounter a broadband provider crappy enough to make me consider going back to Streamyx, but here I am.

Comments? Suggestions?

yes i oso encounter the same ting.
but i can surf website without dll torrent. then you may surf net.
wen u stop surf net then i just trigger dll torrent.

Wait, are you suggesting that it's my torrents downloading that's causing the slowdown?

I'm getting 5kb/s download on uTorrent, so I don't think it's sucking up all the bandwidth. Unless there really isn't that much bandwidth to share in the first place.

Anyway, I'll reboot, turn off uTorrent and see if there's any effect on my surfing speed.

hi eric,

thanks for your reply.
I'm staying in Taman Miharja, the apartment next to Jusco Maluri. Just get iZZi for 1 week. What do you mean by setting up configuration problems? I mention b4 that when it dc, i have to plug out the terminal, then plug in again, then only i can get connected again, if i did not plug out the terminal when it dc, and just dial like that, i will b getting the same error message as below. (sorry, don't know y i couldn't do the screencaps, so i type it out for you)

Error Connecitng to iZZI
Connecting through WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
Error 815: The braodband network connection could not be established on your computer because the remote server is not responding. This could be caused by an invalid value for the "Service NAme" field for this connection. Please contact your Internet Service Provider and inquire about the correct value for this field and update it in the Connection Properties.
If you continue to receive error messages, you can enable logging for analysis.

My question is -
a) what is the 'valid value' for the service name?
b) i now putting the terminal near window, ok, i'm getting 100% signal and d speed is ok, but after 20 min later it will dc again. Everyday I online from 8pm to 1130pm and surely get dc at least 5 times per night.

Perharps you can advice me. Coz i email d sales ppl, they just say will refer to the technician and never reply my email.
thanks.

nothing wrong with your signal. It's because your area start to have more and more izzi user. One tower support 50 users, and 24 Mbps downstream. So, if all the 50 user use the service fully (p2p or ftp for example), your max speed will drop to half. (simple math).

It happen to some of us, including me. Its only...i already fedup and let it be...as I did with streamyx before. Customer service...hmm...entahla labu.

My laptop is on the same table in the same room, but now I have difficulty getting a consistent high signal strength, compared to two weeks ago. Also, the bandwidth significantly dropped. Anyone around the Damansara Perdana area got the same problem?

Damansara perdana line had not been very stable all this while as there are other RF interruption that is built near to the base station.

If there's inteference to iZZi users, then there almost certainly will be inteference to the other telco(s)' users...

currently, to my understanding, there is only izzi using RF...thats why even during rainy season, there are no interruption on the signal. Correct me if i am wrong.

I tried really hard to understand what you've just said. So, is there or is there not RF inteference, on basis of what you've said in an earlier posting (#26)?

well... to my understanding, there is RF interference but have to confirm with the technical ppl.

Is I'm not mistaken... maybe there are some RF interference with that one use by Sri Pentas building.. and I heard izzi based tower are built at the same place too.BTW about bandwidth. it getting slow and slow now.. From my apartment at Flora Damansara, 7th floor, I only manage to get less than 300kbps only.. and the answer was very easy.. coz many people are using it already..

I also test it at my sister house at Pandan Indah, new based tower ( Feb 08 ) at 90% signal,the speed are around 600+kbps.. I'm wonder the speed if the signal was 100% huhu

This is the the test of 100% signal in Pandan Indah.

i m also a subscriber of Izzi.Currently i mostly use it at Kepong.The fact is most of the time the connection is really bad,until i cant even open one page,eg google.Before i subscribed,the salesperson said that the coverage is quite ok in Kepong but in the end this is not true.I tried to email them on this problem but no reply from them.I think i will just discontinue my subscription and ask for refund.After all,it doesnt really worth it at all.

Like i say it before. Many izzi sales person would focus on their sales. they do not care much about the feedback of their customer because its not their business. All they know is to hit their monthly target so that they could get extra cash. I do not encourage end users to buy directly without doing a test run first. Still, if anybody want to subscribe, kindly contact me.

Hi Eric,

I considering of getting an izzipro to use with my two pc. Can it use with my existing router w/modem aztech dsl3100r? Thanks

Steven

Izzipro could be used with routers but not a router modem. My suggestion would be for you to sell of that modem, buy an ethernet card so that you can link both PC together to go online using one as the main com. Else you will have to consider to buy a new router after selling your router modem.

Got one for myself, apparently signal in Wangsa Maju is super duper strong, but terribly weak in USJ 5

Cuz there is a tower in Wangsa Maju area while is USJ, the tower is at USJ 1. The distance between USJ 1 and USJ 5 is pretty far thus making the signal weaker.

U r right. RF is not interrupted by rain.


Yes. WM very very strong

BTW, i downgrded fr usb to slot d liao....n i feel slot one faster than usb...duno if its my hardware matter but surely the difference btw slot n usb is very big for me

i didn't know there is a downgrading service...
but since you feel that usb is slower than your pcmcia, i believe is your hardware that causes it.

New subscriber here, finding the speed good, although stability is a bit of an issue.

I have got two drop outs and last night speed was not as fast as it is now, I maxed out only ~60 KB/s in torrents last night, but now I'm getting ~80 KB/s. I can only hope speed will stay this way.. and the drop out issue to be resolved.

This post has been edited by BenjaminTakeyo: Mar 5 2008, 02:29 PM

if you want the line to be more stable, you could always add antenna

BenjaminTakeyo: Good luck. My torrents were rocking along at between 70 and 100KB/s when I first signed up. Now they crawl along at between 5 and 15KB/S.

And the antenna may make the line more stable, but that has no bearing on the speed itself. 100% signal and 15KB/s download speed? Seriously?

This is what I paid RM1.3k up front for?

Antenna added already from the beginning. ^^

which type?

The one attached to the izzi pro modem.

issipro for pro user wor lol

that is the thing... do you realize that there is a socket on the anetnna itself to add an additional antenna? You can add the iZZi PANL012 antenna which is 12 dB Gain. This is suitable for the izzi pro. while the omni antenna is suitable for izziyou users. If you wish to get it, do let me know.

very fast?
how bout playing d0t@? will lag?
me at taman melati

somehow, there might be lag for playing dota as the latency might that be that stable. To get a stable latency, you can try to add the antenna. it helps a lot.

heard due to the latency problem.. some ppl cannot view youtube at all..
i wanted to sign up izzi and watch TV online eh.. don't know it's really reliable or not..summore hv to pay more than RM1K lump sum...dead..

With my 100% signal and my antenna, i have no problem to do online streaming. I watch youtube very smoothly too.

Err...izziyou can share within few computer?i hear tat i can share the line to make a setting on window "sharing internet connection"...then v shud able to share the line by using usb modem..is tat truth?i m wonder the line of izziyou usb modem is long enuff to set near to bulcony while my computer is 10 meter away from the place? my hs is subscibe to izzipro nw..by the way, v nid another izzi account since our hs to many ppl share the line n make the line getting very slow...beside, i noticed tat that is only have one small corner can receive the line with quite good speed..other place all suck..hope soon to hear reply from anyone from u here:)

yes... you can use izziyou to connect through a computer and the rest of the computer just need to share it through the computer. but i wouldn't recommend it as it is slowerer that way.. and just imagine all the cable hanging around your house. It is still the best if you get another izzipro to use.
but if you wish to be different from others, you can always purchase izziyou for yourself...

well, the performance in my area in serdang also has been degraded. now most of the time i can get merely half the speed compare to the first 3 months.

well... i can't give any comments on the degrade but i would be thinking this way. which isp doesn't have its own problem during expansion? Once they had built sufficient base station around Klang Valley, i am sure everyone would be a happy user.

I can view youtube videos, just need more time to load since it always pauses a lot of times.

here is a tip for you guys... if you guys have the Qvod Player, When you want to stream or browse, quit the player and terminal. It drags your bandwidth.... Once you quit that, you will find yourself browsing very smoothly.

how about PJ area? Section 4???

you've got PM viknes36

Hi, i'm using izziyou too but my performance are really sucks cos i got 95-100% signal but the download kb max to 10 only every day. My area is in cheras tmn segar very near to tmn connaught where the base station place. I did even call to the customer support, they said they will follow up and get back to me until now more then 3 weeks i did not get any reply from them but only get extra 1 month free access only. Is usless if they give me 1 yr free acess which this sucks performance. fyi even with antena or not the performance is also the same.

Hi sieowwei, I'm having the same problem you are. It took over a month for the tech support people to give me a response, and that was only because I kept calling and calling to follow up on my complaint.

I made an appointment for their tech guy to come over to my place to test the signal, but even then, all he can do is diagnose and report back to their HQ for their network people to analyze the report log.

And they offered me two additional months' of service and I told them the exact same thing you said - what's the point of giving me another two months of shitty service? Just fscking fix my lousy connection already, or refund me my money.

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Added on March 8, 2008, 6:07 pmBtw, it seems they only have ONE tech guy who will go to users' homes to test their signal strength, network settings, etc.

Man, I really feel bad for him.

This post has been edited by kwackers: Mar 8 2008, 06:07 PM

omg... if we request for refund they are not going to pay for the full refund they will just refund 70% only cos they need to dedust for 3 month due to their t&c..

hmmm... i am not too sure regarding this as they added some months for you guys.

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Added on March 11, 2008, 8:21 amit seems like this thread is almost dead.

This post has been edited by Anodize: Mar 11 2008, 08:21 AM

i dun think i even bother to call up their centre after hearing all those you guys have experienced. maybe i'll just straightaway cancel it if the speed still sucks for the following month. no point calling them up if its due to station area overloaded. nothing they can do except for building more pipes. maybe i'll think about U-mobile surf.

actually, you should call them up... let them be more aware of the situation. They would consider to build more tower around that area upon lots of subscriber's complain

Build more tower will also get complains from peoples especially resident. Some time I felt the wireless solution always end up with nothing. Just like wat happen to webbit Jaring...

sometimes you find it funny... where comes the chicken when there is no egg?

Anodize: you have a vested interest in getting people to subscribe and to stay on board as paid subsribers. I don't mind giving companies a chance to fix their problems, but when it takes nearly a month to respond to my complaint, and as a result I am no longer entitled to 75% of my money back, then that's a big problem.

Besides, if the issue is that there are too many subscribers for the base station to handle, how long do you think it will take before they build a new one? A week? Not likely. A month? Three months? Six?

Would you put up with six months of $hitty broadband service, just on the hope that *maybe* they'll build another base station?

I wouldn't.

How long u subcribe izzi liao? Y even 75% u also cannot get back?

I subscribed in early December. It's already been longer than 3 months. I'm pissed off because I trusted their technical support to resolve this problem before now.

If they had responded promptly to my complaint when I filed it on Jan.25, then either they would have fixed my problem by now, or I would have canceled my subscription and gotten my 75% refund back.

If I cancel now, I'll only get 50%, so I might as well keep it until the end of May and cancel it within six months of subscribing.

ooo like that de....

hmmm... i have nothing to say... except, i am one happy subscriber and distributor. As for complains, perhaps you can talk to them again. They are actually nice person but only stressed out sometimes. Do you know what they are going through?

I believe if you guys had been to lowyat, you can see that there is one booth for izzi wireless broadband and there are like 15 promoters? Look at those promoters... they know no shit about customer services... what they know is to sell and sell and sell only... what they care is their commission at the end of the day but Klang valley is not even fully covered yet.. there are blind spots... and just imagine all those people with 0% signal wanted to do refund after activation. CS would be damn hectic... THere are some customer who don't even know what OS they are using and start calling them on how come cannot connect thing... i myself have a pity on the CS themselves.. but what i hope is that those ppl who call CS would be those that complains that the speed are slow and hope that they could build an extra tower nearer to their place... But to build an extra tower, they would need the agreement by the building management themselves before building it... so, those building managements sometimes delay them alot. thus making them unable to carry out their job smoothly...

I'm sorry if i had said/hurt anyone in this post. My intention is to tell ppl that they are trying their best. If you get to their office, you will understand what i mean.

by the time they are aware of the situation, i think i've already waited for months before they taking any action. They can't just expect customer to start complain only then start to build more tower. they should have a proper upgrade plan when a certain area reach its unacceptable level of users, not by waiting for complaints only upgrade ma.

...and I'm not attacking them as people. If you think I'm just hating on iZZi, it couldn't be further from the truth.

When I signed up in early December, I was so pleased with the speed that I made a point of telling all my friends to switch from Streamyx to iZZi. I even hung out at their booth in Low Yat a few times and shared my positive experience with several prospective customers.

I'm sure they have their hands full, considering their aggressive marketing and the crazy subscriber uptake they must be experiencing.

What I've been complaining about here is the quality of their customer services. Every growing service provider will have teething problems. What they can't afford to do is piss off their customers.

I've encountered several great customer service reps at iZZi by now. And I appreciated the fact that the poor tech guy came over to my place after hours. But I shouldn't have had to wait over a month, or had to call several times a week to get them to take action on my problem. That's just poor customer service.

If you're fortunate enough to get CONSISTENTLY fast speed from your iZZi connection, then of course you'd be a happy subscriber. I wish I were one too.

what can i say... Sometimes the CS would get mad too... but never the less, they would still try to resolve your problem.. The tech guy is sitting near to the CS thus if he is there to help out those CS guy, you would get answer pretty quickly...

Dang... any plan to improve it? i.e., more towers to be built in USJ area?

BTW, any one tested the connection from Bandar Puteri, Puchong?

Probably because your laptop is using USB1.1 standard?

Bandar Puteri's signal is strong. THere is a tower there itself. but i don't know which part to be exact.

the symptom is exactly like maxis hsdpa bb. Early in the morning, the result is damn good but when reach at nite it drop until 300kbps.

i have no problem for both morning and night... my guess is maybe your place have more students who whore p2p during the night times...

I AGREE WITH YOU. ONE OF THE IZZI'S SALES PEOPLE DID A DEMO AT MY OFFICE (AFTERNOON) IN LEMBAH PANTAI AND MY HOUSE (AT NIGHT) IN KEPONG, THE CONNECTION IS ONLY 20%-30% OF 1MBPS. IT TOOK ALMOST 10 MIN TO DOWNLOAD A 6 MB FILE FROM AVG'S WEBSITE AND TOOK ALMOST 20 MIN TO UPLOAD THE SAME FILE AS YAHOO ATTACHMENT. FINALLY, THE GUY SAID SORRY AND LEFT MY HOUSE.

NOW, I AM SUING STREAMYX 512KBPS ONLY, IT TOOK ME ONLY 30-45 SECONDS TO DOWNLOAD THE SAME FILE AND ABOUT 2-3 MIN TO UPLOAD AS YAHOO ATTACHMENT.

JUST BE SMART... DON;T SIMPLY TRUST SALES PEOPLE... I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND RM1200 IN ONE LUMP SUM FOR 150 TO 250KBPS BROADBAND.

iZZi not good still got so many people going for it

that is because some area, the line is very good. and some place, streamyx does not support and some wanted mobility where maxis/celcom is rather slow.

just sign up today, now still testing the speed........and vomiting blood also. After few hours of web browsing and speed testing, my place which is in KJ area only manage to get round 20% of the speed.....

Vry vry diasppointed...........

This post has been edited by madman.com: Mar 23 2008, 12:27 AM


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i wonder why people's neck is sooo hard? THey should be doing a test run first before they buy the service.

madman.com, if you read previous post (in V1) you will know that KJ area already congested.

I am from KJ too...and nothing they could done. I think iBurst hit its technology wall. I should be more aware...when I read the white paper, 24 mbps downstream limitation.....how on earth to provide 100 ppl per tower...

Now, even i smack my forehead pun...tak boleh buat apa already. Use it or ask for refund it. Sigh.

Getting 500kbps at best should be your best hope for most of the time (sometime during 4am to 5am you may get a bit higher). (less ppl use the service).

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But some area has very nice speed (limited to 1 mbps). However, eventually, they will face this kind of problem too in the near future...when more and more people subscribe this service at that area. Look at the promoter, aggressively sell this product. Funny thing is, they have any kind of answer for your limitless question. I ask one o f them at Digitmall, how much user each tower can support simultaneously, and the answer 1000. Wow...if anyone havent study iBurst whitepaper.. they will think...awesome. But the truth is....

The good side of izzi....it rarely disconnected. Only sometime, when disconnected, hard to get connected again. Need to reboot my windows...wonder why.

Anod... Even smart consumer who ask izzi representative to come to their home and test it...fall into this problem. Because, at that moment the representative test the connection, the speed seem OK. But a month or more after that...the speed drop due to excessive and over p2p user...what can we do? Some people said ask for refund....some people said...stop complaining in public domain and some people said..live with that.... the answer is yours. I have mine.

****question*****

Do anyone of you guys know how to make other people access our PC using Izzi. I have no trouble to let people access my PC as mini online game server (without hamachi), and using No-IP. But with izzi...i have no idea. Seem, the only person could access it (via http) is me.

This post has been edited by expertester: Mar 24 2008, 09:26 AM

yup.... i understand what you are trying to say expertester... and i fully agree with you.... This is all due to excessive promoter in Lowyat? But anyhow, i still do hope that ppl don't whore p2p 24/7 la ofcourse... But frankly speaking... which ISP doesn't face this bandwidth issue? i believe each and everyone suffer from that... but they will boost it up in the future... but god knows when... Even the government promises to have Wimax within half year.... i wouldn't believe whatever the government says... So far, i don't have anyproblem with izzi since i use it from November.

i thought goverment cancel the wimax licenses already??

anyone staying in desa serdang area experience connection problem last nite? no signal at all.

they do maintenence kot kevyon.

the problem with people (who did 24/7 p2p) is... they thought they already hand over a huge amount of money for the service and they must fully utilize it. That's the mentality of some customers. And it will directly hit to casual P2Per or casual http/ftp downloader.

It is more likely chicken and egg problem.

But I glad that Izzi hasn't shapping the torrent yet. Some of the legit files / software need torrent to download it. For example, WoW client from blizzard.

@kevyon6, your location is desa serdang? how is your connection at desa serdang all this while? as in talking about overall, since the day you applied for izzi. thanks

overall for the first 3 or 4 months, its been pretty good. bandwidth usually around 700kbps to 900kbps+ and even tops up at 1Mbps. For the past 1 month plus, the bandwidth is dropping to merely 300-400kbps during the night time. i guess they are getting more subscriber in this area already.



This post has been edited by kevyon6: Mar 24 2008, 02:25 PM

LOL WTFBBQSAUCE.
USJ area got hit by storm and goes back to 1997!!!
izzi FTW!

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Added on March 24, 2008, 8:12 pmwakakakakaka



This post has been edited by kev da man: Mar 24 2008, 08:12 PM

yalor... connection getting worse n worse... dunno can get back the refund or not... already paid for 1 year subscriptions fees... the CS service is good.. but the connection speed not very good.. especially these few weeks.. the most i got is 164kbps.... ridiculous!!

USJ area worse... i got last few days is 164kbps, now even worse... 36kbps... swt..

i guess i'll have to stick with izzi for awhile since i dun have land line, otherwise bye bye to wireless.

well...actually is kinda dilemma situation. bcoz although the speed is f***ing slow , but like we know the line is quite stable . And although we can only get around 10-15% of the speed that we paid for , but i found that is kinda "fast" when just do normal web surfing, and we didnt need a telephone line for that . Ofcoz everything will come to dead when we start p2p .

This post has been edited by madman.com: Mar 24 2008, 10:29 PM

Which part of USJ you living at bro?


Of course you can get back your refund if its less than a year.

Which part of USJ? USJ 1 doesn't have that problem at all...