Hi Guys.
How is the working life in Singapore?
How is the expenses? Can someone share it out..Pls...
Normally how much we can save per month?
Working Life in Singapore, Please Share your value Experience
Working Life in Singapore, Please Share your value Experience
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Oct 26 2006, 01:34 AM, updated 20y ago
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Hi Guys.
How is the working life in Singapore? How is the expenses? Can someone share it out..Pls... Normally how much we can save per month? |
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Oct 26 2006, 01:57 AM
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are you working at sg? i also planning to work at sg next year, but heard my frens said sg is a "hell", not much place can go, very boring..
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Oct 26 2006, 02:06 AM
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very boring and regulated like factory even you are at home cause everyone is like that. Pub is ok if you work there and willing to fork out the $$$ and other only entertainment is cinema. that pretty much about s'pore entertaiment. but you can get good ping for online game.
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Oct 26 2006, 07:26 AM
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i really really disagree lah about singapore being boring. I worked in a shopping mall in Little India and it was one of the best time in my life. really learnt alot there. i worked in a shopping mall that is used to having malaysians work there, in fact most of the workers there are malaysian, usually SPM holders. The pay is good, they provide food, they even provide some money for rental. But since it's a shopping mall u hav to work for 12 hours or more. But c'mon lah, since u're goin down there to work, u hav to work hard to earn lah, suck it up lah, entertainment is not that important for us anymore lah.
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Oct 26 2006, 09:15 AM
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He's right, if your main goal there is to work, by all means make it your priority.
You should be worried about the pay, working conditions, working hours, living expenses, food, accommodation, job prospect etc instead of worrying about what sort of entertainment that you would get there. No offense, Just my two cents. |
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Oct 26 2006, 10:03 AM
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Uncle Lee welcome you all....
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Oct 26 2006, 10:08 AM
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It's a hell hole. Hot apartments, concrete everywhere. 7k people to a mile. If you're going there to work. Just work, get your money and come back. Or turn traitor like most of the fellas there and never come back. It's very easy to get PRs over there. They're desperate for people. I've known people working there for 3-6 months and already are PR. LOL Insane I know. |
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Oct 26 2006, 10:08 AM
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Singapore rocks Man! But you have to really be smart + hardworking to make it there. There's no excuse for poor performance. It's not malaysia government work quality!
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Oct 26 2006, 10:12 AM
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Oct 26 2006, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(wchui22061985 @ Oct 26 2006, 07:26 AM) i really really disagree lah about singapore being boring. I worked in a shopping mall in Little India and it was one of the best time in my life. really learnt alot there. i worked in a shopping mall that is used to having malaysians work there, in fact most of the workers there are malaysian, usually SPM holders. The pay is good, they provide food, they even provide some money for rental. But since it's a shopping mall u hav to work for 12 hours or more. But c'mon lah, since u're goin down there to work, u hav to work hard to earn lah, suck it up lah, entertainment is not that important for us anymore lah. QUOTE(supercolossal @ Oct 26 2006, 09:15 AM) He's right, if your main goal there is to work, by all means make it your priority. heard before work & life balance ? You should be worried about the pay, working conditions, working hours, living expenses, food, accommodation, job prospect etc instead of worrying about what sort of entertainment that you would get there. No offense, Just my two cents. |
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Oct 26 2006, 11:26 AM
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sg competiton tough le.. expenses also hella exp.. my fren at there said the life is like hell... ask me better don go there lolz..
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Oct 26 2006, 11:42 AM
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I don't see hell here, in mean sg. I've been here for around 1 month plus for a 2 months project here. I see that sg is a good place to earn especially for malaysian. If your purpose here is just to earn money, then you've found the right place.
Compare Malaysia, sg has lower living standard if you don't have commitments on house and car. With S$50 you can buy more things here compare to RM50 back in malaysia. Yeah, after earn "enough" SGD, come back malaysia and convert those SGD to a bulk money ... dun forget to treat us yam char. |
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Oct 26 2006, 11:46 AM
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singapore is a FINE .... mighty FINE country ... FINE you for everthing .... bankrupt all my moneyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oct 26 2006, 05:47 PM
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Oct 27 2006, 12:52 AM
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working life is heaven here! hohoho..the transportation and working environment is good. NO TRAFFIC JAMS and BROKEN LRTSsssss/monorails/ktmssss..
no more lrts tat stop in the middle of no where... sad to say..i miss malaysia soo much, but till they improve the transportation there...... The food is alrite if u know wer to makan its not expensive dollar to dollar.....u will be earning proly the same thing in msia... besides the rental part...everything seemed cheaper and u get to save abit. BUT!! unless u r earning more than SGD2.5k...dun bother coming coz no point after all the expenses, u will be left wif pretty much nothing. my expenses now; sgd450 = room (near town and 5 mins from mrt) sgd60-sgd80 = transport sgd200 = go back kl twice a month(lesser than this actually) sgd500 = makan Total = SGD1230 (dun forget the TAX, and mics stuffs) but basically spend around sgd1500 ....the rest can save. so if u r earning 2500, at least can save around rm2k per month or maybe lesser since shopping here is dem dem good! This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Oct 27 2006, 12:54 AM |
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Oct 27 2006, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 27 2006, 12:52 AM) working life is heaven here! hohoho..the transportation and working environment is good. NO TRAFFIC JAMS and BROKEN LRTSsssss/monorails/ktmssss.. hmm... wats ur job in sg? any idea how much software engineer get to paid in SGD? any racism issue? r we malaysian (chinese) being respected or lookdown juz as pendatang asing...no more lrts tat stop in the middle of no where... sad to say..i miss malaysia soo much, but till they improve the transportation there...... The food is alrite if u know wer to makan its not expensive dollar to dollar.....u will be earning proly the same thing in msia... besides the rental part...everything seemed cheaper and u get to save abit. BUT!! unless u r earning more than SGD2.5k...dun bother coming coz no point after all the expenses, u will be left wif pretty much nothing. my expenses now; sgd450 = room (near town and 5 mins from mrt) sgd60-sgd80 = transport sgd200 = go back kl twice a month(lesser than this actually) sgd500 = makan Total = SGD1230 (dun forget the TAX, and mics stuffs) but basically spend around sgd1500 ....the rest can save. so if u r earning 2500, at least can save around rm2k per month or maybe lesser since shopping here is dem dem good! |
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Oct 27 2006, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(Taetsu @ Oct 27 2006, 09:47 AM) hmm... wats ur job in sg? any idea how much software engineer get to paid in SGD? any racism issue? r we malaysian (chinese) being respected or lookdown juz as pendatang asing... that question no one need to ask......sg gov knows very well how chinese are treated here and still survive with hard work and determination |
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Oct 27 2006, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(Taetsu @ Oct 27 2006, 09:47 AM) hmm... wats ur job in sg? any idea how much software engineer get to paid in SGD? any racism issue? r we malaysian (chinese) being respected or lookdown juz as pendatang asing... Hmm...I m working in an IT recruitment and solutions agency as an IT recruiter. So if anybody wanna work in SG, please do send your resume to me at leeling.teo@theoptimum.net. However, we do not hire fresh grads. So once any of you guys have 1year experience and above, feel free to bomb my email with your resumes. Please do write in details about the projects you are involved in, it will help a lot in securing an interview. Most of our clients are big MNCs like Merril Lynch, Citibank, Standard Chartered, Accenture, IBM, HP, Barclays, Credit Suisse, etc.....I have no idea about racist problem...I have no prob as my company is multiracial...Indians, Pilipinos, Chinese from China, Malaysia, Singapore....the only Singaporean Chinese working in my company is very nice and frenly....humble too... But basically most of these MNCs are multiracial, will not have problems. Software engineer? Hmmm wat field? It depends on your specialization and experience.... SAP, Peoplesoft, SAS, Datawarehousing, Business Objects, Informatica, C++, DBA specialist can demand much much more than asp, .net. java......but a java person can demand more than asp, .net, vb.... In short, it depends whether u are in demand or not....if everybody is doing the same thing, they will not pay much as they can find their own people to do the job. |
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Oct 27 2006, 12:19 PM
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i used to worked in Singapore for two weeks, the life ther is pretty good ! especially the environment the is d@m secure and the ppl ther are civilized ! not like Malaysia so many "SAKAI"......
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Oct 27 2006, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 27 2006, 11:53 AM) Hmm...I m working in an IT recruitment and solutions agency as an IT recruiter. So if anybody wanna work in SG, please do send your resume to me at leeling.teo@theoptimum.net. However, we do not hire fresh grads. So once any of you guys have 1year experience and above, feel free to bomb my email with your resumes. Please do write in details about the projects you are involved in, it will help a lot in securing an interview. Most of our clients are big MNCs like Merril Lynch, Citibank, Standard Chartered, Accenture, IBM, HP, Barclays, Credit Suisse, etc..... i have sent you my resume ~ ehhee I have no idea about racist problem...I have no prob as my company is multiracial...Indians, Pilipinos, Chinese from China, Malaysia, Singapore....the only Singaporean Chinese working in my company is very nice and frenly....humble too... But basically most of these MNCs are multiracial, will not have problems. Software engineer? Hmmm wat field? It depends on your specialization and experience.... SAP, Peoplesoft, SAS, Datawarehousing, Business Objects, Informatica, C++, DBA specialist can demand much much more than asp, .net. java......but a java person can demand more than asp, .net, vb.... In short, it depends whether u are in demand or not....if everybody is doing the same thing, they will not pay much as they can find their own people to do the job. |
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Oct 27 2006, 03:19 PM
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Lee KY said before " We don't give fish, You have to catch your own fish"
Work smart and hardwork when you work in Singapore "Majulah Singapura" |
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Oct 27 2006, 09:13 PM
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how much sg tax malaysian for the salary ar?thank you
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Oct 27 2006, 11:04 PM
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Oct 28 2006, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 27 2006, 11:53 AM) Hmm…I m working in an IT recruitment and solutions agency as an IT recruiter. So if anybody wanna work in SG, please do send your resume to me at leeling.teo@theoptimum.net. However, we do not hire fresh grads. So once any of you guys have 1year experience and above, feel free to bomb my email with your resumes. Please do write in details about the projects you are involved in, it will help a lot in securing an interview. Most of our clients are big MNCs like Merril Lynch, Citibank, Standard Chartered, Accenture, IBM, HP, Barclays, Credit Suisse, etc….. keep ur email for referenceI have no idea about racist problem…I have no prob as my company is multiracial…Indians, Pilipinos, Chinese from China, Malaysia, Singapore….the only Singaporean Chinese working in my company is very nice and frenly….humble too… But basically most of these MNCs are multiracial, will not have problems. Software engineer? Hmmm wat field? It depends on your specialization and experience…. SAP, Peoplesoft, SAS, Datawarehousing, Business Objects, Informatica, C++, DBA specialist can demand much much more than asp, .net. java……but a java person can demand more than asp, .net, vb…. In short, it depends whether u are in demand or not….if everybody is doing the same thing, they will not pay much as they can find their own people to do the job. |
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Oct 29 2006, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Oct 27 2006, 11:04 PM) ermm...15% only if u work for less than haf a year in 1 year or 183days in a year meaning if u come into sg after 1st July your salary for tat year will be taxed 15% if u come in be4, it will be something like our malaysia taxation. btw...here your tax can be paid in monthly installment (and dun get me wrong, its not same as PCB) PCB, belum tax, the company oredi deducting your tax according to estimation. Here, after u declared your tax amount, you can choose to pay the amount in monthly installments. (12months) This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Oct 29 2006, 01:43 AM |
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Oct 29 2006, 05:15 AM
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 29 2006, 01:40 AM) ermm... If not high income (eg 1500), also have to be taxed by S'pore??15% only if u work for less than haf a year in 1 year or 183days in a year meaning if u come into sg after 1st July your salary for tat year will be taxed 15% if u come in be4, it will be something like our malaysia taxation. btw...here your tax can be paid in monthly installment (and dun get me wrong, its not same as PCB) PCB, belum tax, the company oredi deducting your tax according to estimation. Here, after u declared your tax amount, you can choose to pay the amount in monthly installments. (12months) |
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Oct 29 2006, 10:17 AM
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15% tax is a bit low to us. I think everage Malaysian pay 19% at least each year.
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Oct 29 2006, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Oct 29 2006, 10:17 AM) Actually it depends on your income bracket. People making RM3k per month pays around 3% of tax if I remember. 19% tax is for people who makes between 50k - 70k per month. 13% for Rm35-50k per month.Average M'sian dont earn that much. http://www.hasilnet.org.my/melayu/bm_NO2_1_1K.asp This post has been edited by luqmanz: Oct 29 2006, 01:39 PM |
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Oct 29 2006, 02:57 PM
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Yea, it's according to your income bracket. I earn close to S$3k/mo and it's just 4% (or was it 3.5%?) tax for me last year. I spend moderately and even after big ticket spending (like vacations, computer stuff and my $$$ DSLR and lens), I can save close to 50% of my earnings.
Depending on your job, it can be either hell or heaven. For me, I'm just about getting used to hell. Otherwise, the environment here is very safe and secure and public facilities and amenities are tip-top. As to sian or not, it'll depend largely on the person. Why am I here in front of my computer on a fine Sunday afternoon?? |
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Oct 29 2006, 02:59 PM
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Oct 30 2006, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 27 2006, 11:53 AM) What's the demand and offer for MCSE with MNC exp?Hmm...I m working in an IT recruitment and solutions agency as an IT recruiter. So if anybody wanna work in SG, please do send your resume to me at leeling.teo@theoptimum.net. However, we do not hire fresh grads. So once any of you guys have 1year experience and above, feel free to bomb my email with your resumes. Please do write in details about the projects you are involved in, it will help a lot in securing an interview. Most of our clients are big MNCs like Merril Lynch, Citibank, Standard Chartered, Accenture, IBM, HP, Barclays, Credit Suisse, etc..... I have no idea about racist problem...I have no prob as my company is multiracial...Indians, Pilipinos, Chinese from China, Malaysia, Singapore....the only Singaporean Chinese working in my company is very nice and frenly....humble too... But basically most of these MNCs are multiracial, will not have problems. Software engineer? Hmmm wat field? It depends on your specialization and experience.... SAP, Peoplesoft, SAS, Datawarehousing, Business Objects, Informatica, C++, DBA specialist can demand much much more than asp, .net. java......but a java person can demand more than asp, .net, vb.... In short, it depends whether u are in demand or not....if everybody is doing the same thing, they will not pay much as they can find their own people to do the job. |
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Oct 30 2006, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(xerox1234 @ Oct 30 2006, 09:25 PM) ermm.....MCSE is just another cert, it depends on wat position are u refering to. lets say, my client wants a windows support guy with MCSE certifications, then your chances of getting the job will be higher than someone who does not have MCSE Experience in MNC just made it easier to get shortlisted.... |
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Oct 31 2006, 09:43 AM
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Summary will be lonely, branded, nightlife, boring sometimes, cun chicks. Good enough for you?
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Oct 31 2006, 10:00 AM
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When I worked in Singapore back in '99-03, my tax brackets were around 8% (after obtaining PR). Now, with 15% for non-resident, that's still considered low as compare to other countries.
Most MNCs in Singapore has a very good system for performers and if you work hard and smart, you'll get promoted and opportunities for growth will be opened (regardless of racial background or nationality). For those of you who are in IT, the opportunities in Singapore are still very good (esp. if you have experience). Singapore's IT infrastructre and network is twice or three times better than the "Multimedia Corridor" that Mahathir as built. I was impressed with most of the MNCs efficiencies, structures, and organisational styles. Yeah, you don't talk too much against their government (like Malaysia anyway) but they're opening up and more aware of their citizens' needs. My 4 years assignment in Singapore landed me a job in US when the company's US branch has an opening. Looking back, I would rather pay 15% for income tax as foreigner in Singapore than what I am paying in US (31%). If opportunity arises, I may return to work in Singapore one day. This post has been edited by netfan: Oct 31 2006, 10:00 AM |
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Nov 5 2006, 02:15 PM
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hi
this is a very useful post. how is the job opportunities of a nutritionist in Singapore? thanks for any kindness replies. |
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Nov 5 2006, 11:26 PM
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Since there are so many experienced ppl here, i got a question to ask, im an experienced programmer(6 years), but the problem i have is i do not have a diploma nor a degree, but I do have microsoft certified certs, and working experience, do you think i should try my luck in sg ? or better not to do so ?
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Nov 6 2006, 04:35 PM
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@mIssfROGY
did u receive my resume ? |
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Nov 6 2006, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(Taetsu @ Oct 27 2006, 09:47 AM) hmm... wats ur job in sg? any idea how much software engineer get to paid in SGD? any racism issue? r we malaysian (chinese) being respected or lookdown juz as pendatang asing... i have to work at singapore since Jun 2006...The salary $1500 no experian at all..but so far can Survive i can save $800 to $900 per month...as long as u can manage ur money very well its ok u dun worry...so far in my work place i dun hv any problem..everyone work together malay+indian+chinese..we all like family no racism...some more my bestfriend are chinese we all weekend play badminton 2gether.. I`m malaysian and fresh grad from PTPL ampang...Diploma In Information Technology..i`m malay.. good luck to u man... |
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QUOTE(narf03 @ Nov 6 2006, 03:43 PM) Since there are so many experienced ppl here, i got a question to ask, im an experienced programmer(6 years), but the problem i have is i do not have a diploma nor a degree, but I do have microsoft certified certs, and working experience, do you think i should try my luck in sg ? or better not to do so ? never try never know...i sugest u try ur luck... good luck to u man.. |
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QUOTE(d2e_7 @ Nov 6 2006, 05:34 PM) i have to work at singapore since Jun 2006...The salary $1500 no experian at all..but so far can Survive i can save $800 to $900 per month...as long as u can manage ur money very well its ok u dun worry... I thought only Chinese interested to work in Singapore only! Sorry! no racism offence, just curious to ask so far in my work place i dun hv any problem..everyone work together malay+indian+chinese..we all like family no racism...some more my bestfriend are chinese we all weekend play badminton 2gether.. I`m malaysian and fresh grad from PTPL ampang...Diploma In Information Technology..i`m malay.. good luck to u man... This post has been edited by kb2005: Nov 7 2006, 08:13 AM |
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Nov 7 2006, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Nov 7 2006, 08:13 AM) I thought only Chinese interested to work in Singapore only! Sorry! no racism offence, just curious to ask right now people more advance and they try to fine better life for their future...It doesn't matter where I come from It doesn't matter what I do It doesn't matter what I believe in It doesn't matter how tough it may be It doesn't matter I'm ordinary It doesn't matter how different we are "One People, One Nation,One Singapore" |
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Nov 7 2006, 12:00 PM
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^ lol lol it's better to be brainwashed by singapore than by malaysia.
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Nov 7 2006, 12:13 PM
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Actually the main question that you should ask is how long you intend to work there?
Norm most ppl whom work in s'pore will have not opportunity to comeback due to wage differences and exp. Lots of my friend whom join as production engineer having this dilemma now. |
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Nov 7 2006, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Nov 7 2006, 12:13 PM) Actually the main question that you should ask is how long you intend to work there? Ya lol high salary better life n the most important thing is enjoy Working Environment..for what we come back to malaysia who dare to pay that much rite than as long as u really can make money here what for u want to go back..Norm most ppl whom work in s'pore will have not opportunity to comeback due to wage differences and exp. Lots of my friend whom join as production engineer having this dilemma now. just keep it good work n respect people and people will respect u lar.. |
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 27 2006, 12:52 AM) working life is heaven here! hohoho..the transportation and working environment is good. NO TRAFFIC JAMS and BROKEN LRTSsssss/monorails/ktmssss.. er...u dont pay yr parents? wat abt entertainment?no more lrts tat stop in the middle of no where... sad to say..i miss malaysia soo much, but till they improve the transportation there...... The food is alrite if u know wer to makan its not expensive dollar to dollar.....u will be earning proly the same thing in msia... besides the rental part...everything seemed cheaper and u get to save abit. BUT!! unless u r earning more than SGD2.5k...dun bother coming coz no point after all the expenses, u will be left wif pretty much nothing. my expenses now; sgd450 = room (near town and 5 mins from mrt) sgd60-sgd80 = transport sgd200 = go back kl twice a month(lesser than this actually) sgd500 = makan Total = SGD1230 (dun forget the TAX, and mics stuffs) but basically spend around sgd1500 ....the rest can save. so if u r earning 2500, at least can save around rm2k per month or maybe lesser since shopping here is dem dem good! btw, sgd450 for room is crazy, i can pay installment for a mid range apartment with the rent This post has been edited by eddychstu: Nov 7 2006, 12:47 PM |
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mind those who tend to work in sg,
ofcoz like others said is good pay in sg but thinking that u'll be living in sg and spend in sg for most of the time. it doesnt make any huge different. mu cousin's case: all the while he worked in sg, work hard and save hard. few years later, manage to buy a house in MALAYSIA, mind u, not sg. and now he's having this problem whereby his investment is mostly in msia, he wish to move back and work here but the pay in msia cannot support his investment. end up, work in sg but cannot enjoy the stuff that he has invested in msia, eg. house so think b4 u make any decision if u want to work in sg, money is important but not everything. especially for youngster. |
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$200 for a room (10 mins to simei MRT..)
$70 telefon bils (everyday call KL) if not less that that $40 transport (weekend lepak room play pc games or jog around) $50 makan ($2 per day) air kotak free company sponser everyday.. totol=SGD$ 360 |
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QUOTE(d2e_7 @ Nov 7 2006, 01:23 PM) $200 for a room (10 mins to simei MRT..) 0_o$70 telefon bils (everyday call KL) if not less that that $40 transport (weekend lepak room play pc games or jog around) $50 makan ($2 per day) air kotak free company sponser everyday.. totol=SGD$ 360 while the rest of above may be possible depends where u live, and where's ur company. $50 makan is a shock for me. there's no way to eat only $2 a day.... |
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Nov 7 2006, 04:20 PM) 0_o sound like only eat bread or instant noodle. while the rest of above may be possible depends where u live, and where's ur company. $50 makan is a shock for me. there's no way to eat only $2 a day.... unless his company cover his lunch else it is not possible. Because I have to pay at least SGD$3 for a plate of chicken rice. This post has been edited by say_it: Nov 7 2006, 04:48 PM |
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QUOTE(say_it @ Nov 7 2006, 04:47 PM) sound like only eat bread or instant noodle. we all normaly go school canteen lol..1 plan rice + chicken + veg + telor goreng only $1.90... unless his company cover his lunch else it is not possible. Because I have to pay at least SGD$3 for a plate of chicken rice. hv to be smart lol |
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QUOTE(eddychstu @ Nov 7 2006, 05:28 PM) hey u want me list what i eat ha..??just waste my time lar liao.. ofcourse lar i eat different dish everyday... they sell mee goreng, mee siam, mee hoon... hey do u still remember when u still in sec sch..??ur sch canteen sell what ha..??but in singapore the canteen damn clean totoly different from m`sia sch... some more i`m only 21 to so faze of food jz eat what ever hv.... if i want to enjoy food i will go JB lol...once a month i come back to kl so i will enjoy my life there... |
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QUOTE(d2e_7 @ Nov 7 2006, 12:26 PM) Ya lol high salary better life n the most important thing is enjoy Working Environment..for what we come back to malaysia who dare to pay that much rite than as long as u really can make money here what for u want to go back.. Singlish? Me bo understand ho. just keep it good work n respect people and people will respect u lar.. |
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QUOTE(d2e_7 @ Nov 7 2006, 11:48 AM) right now people more advance and they try to fine better life for their future... Are you a Malaysian or Singaporean ?It doesn't matter where I come from It doesn't matter what I do It doesn't matter what I believe in It doesn't matter how tough it may be It doesn't matter I'm ordinary It doesn't matter how different we are "One People, One Nation,One Singapore" |
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 27 2006, 12:52 AM) working life is heaven here! hohoho..the transportation and working environment is good. NO TRAFFIC JAMS and BROKEN LRTSsssss/monorails/ktmssss.. You go back KL spend so much huh?no more lrts tat stop in the middle of no where... sad to say..i miss malaysia soo much, but till they improve the transportation there...... The food is alrite if u know wer to makan its not expensive dollar to dollar.....u will be earning proly the same thing in msia... besides the rental part...everything seemed cheaper and u get to save abit. BUT!! unless u r earning more than SGD2.5k...dun bother coming coz no point after all the expenses, u will be left wif pretty much nothing. my expenses now; sgd450 = room (near town and 5 mins from mrt) sgd60-sgd80 = transport sgd200 = go back kl twice a month(lesser than this actually) sgd500 = makan Total = SGD1230 (dun forget the TAX, and mics stuffs) but basically spend around sgd1500 ....the rest can save. so if u r earning 2500, at least can save around rm2k per month or maybe lesser since shopping here is dem dem good! Whereas from Malaysia to Singapore is around RM30 by KTM train .. Hm.. one trip/ one way average 8 hours. This post has been edited by theodore_kh: Nov 8 2006, 01:31 PM |
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QUOTE(theodore_kh @ Nov 8 2006, 01:29 PM) You go back KL spend so much huh? Not really ler....actyally just SGD100....but i put SGD200 coz sometimes i travel on a more exp coach. 1 trip is around 5-6hours by bus. I love aeroline la...hehe..boleh makanWhereas from Malaysia to Singapore is around RM30 by KTM train .. Hm.. one trip/ one way average 8 hours. |
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mIssfROGY ~ no working in KLIA liao ???
suddenly goto singapore liao ah ... |
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d2e_7, I eat up S$3 worth of lunch every day on average at the normal kopitiams and canteens where I work. Compared to your S$1.90 on-average lunch, I spend only an extra of S$33 for the whole month. That's not really a big savings. Maybe you should look elsewhere to cut living expenses... one big target is your calls (back home?) to M'sia. Use more of Skype or MSN chat that's free...
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Just curious, how the tax in Spore counted? Is it like in Msia, u earn certain amount only pay tax? If so how? The website of their IRB din state anything about this
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 9 2006, 07:43 AM) Just curious, how the tax in Spore counted? Is it like in Msia, u earn certain amount only pay tax? If so how? The website of their IRB din state anything about this hahaha...finally...tax in Spore...Smart man Jasontoh!...if are working and having a cool/wonderful working life in singapore with S$ , be sure to not keep ur money in the island. What "was" yours is now Uncle Lee's Saving accounts. CPF-55 also suxs... around some edges...someone said, if we are to work in singapore...we should be hardworking and smart....well....not so true. hahaaha.... I have crossed working in Singapore and with Hong Kong....nothing proud of. Same lame chinese people there. Just to be simple....work casually as you might, but work with rules and more discipline in Singapore or Hong Kong....that is all. hope you folks find what you seek. |
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So, anyone can tell me how the income tax there like? And what is CPF-55? Is it sumthing like EPF?
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QUOTE(cjtune @ Nov 9 2006, 01:26 AM) d2e_7, I eat up S$3 worth of lunch every day on average at the normal kopitiams and canteens where I work. Compared to your S$1.90 on-average lunch, I spend only an extra of S$33 for the whole month. That's not really a big savings. Maybe you should look elsewhere to cut living expenses... one big target is your calls (back home?) to M'sia. Use more of Skype or MSN chat that's free... hey cjtune thanks...yup i think i should not call m`sia everyday lar... maybe i will use msn or ym or what ever free ones... normaly i seldom eat dinner i only eat lunch that all.. my weight only 44... |
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hi!
is it possible for us to start a business in singapore??? thanks for reply! |
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Hi people!
I have a friend whose interested to work in Singapore...My friend wanna work as cabin crew for Singapore Airline. She wants to know hows life would be if she migrate to Singapore...what she'll need...eg..uhh..like passport or whatever. My friend is 20 years old. So,what do you think about that? |
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QUOTE(silencio87 @ Nov 10 2006, 07:22 PM) Hi people! Just ask her to go and apply for SIA air stewardess job! I have a friend whose interested to work in Singapore...My friend wanna work as cabin crew for Singapore Airline. She wants to know hows life would be if she migrate to Singapore...what she'll need...eg..uhh..like passport or whatever. My friend is 20 years old. So,what do you think about that? |
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Nov 11 2006, 12:03 AM) Hmm...yea...thats what she wants but she's a Malaysian..and of course she fulfills all the requirement.....but she's got to move to Singapore or something like that?She asked me whether Malaysian got any chance to even be SIA stewardess or not though Singaporean/Malaysian can apply..but i dont know... |
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QUOTE(silencio87 @ Nov 10 2006, 07:22 PM) Hi people! If u want to get a PR u must at least work in Singapore 1 year and have to contribute wit CPF... also they want to see your SPM result (5 credit )... And depends on what skill u have they prefer technical skill or professional skill (accountant, engineering, IT )I have a friend whose interested to work in Singapore...My friend wanna work as cabin crew for Singapore Airline. She wants to know hows life would be if she migrate to Singapore...what she'll need...eg..uhh..like passport or whatever. My friend is 20 years old. So,what do you think about that? And the last thing is depends on luck... good luck to ur friend... |
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What's the benefit of becoming a PR in singapore ?
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As PR, you can buy property in Singapore i guess
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QUOTE(d2e_7 @ Nov 11 2006, 12:42 PM) If u want to get a PR u must at least work in Singapore 1 year and have to contribute wit CPF... also they want to see your SPM result (5 credit )... And depends on what skill u have they prefer technical skill or professional skill (accountant, engineering, IT ) Thanks dude!!And the last thing is depends on luck... good luck to ur friend... Will inform her about it. Im curious..if she applies as SIA stewardess..she's consider working for Singapore right...she rents an apartment there ,work as stewardess for a year and so...she can later apply for PR..right? If she migrate to Singapore..i have good reasons for going there and visit her |
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Singapore PR cannot drive cars with malaysian register plates
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Hi, just think that if the pay is S$4000. Month end how much I can get after minus of cpf and tax....pls advise.
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I'm a Johorian. I worked there for 2 years in IT and got my PR. But now come back liow. Overall, I personally think S'pore is good for earning and saving money but not a place to settle down for long term.
Come to think of it I can sing "Mari Kita" better than those S'porean. Some of them don't understand what they sing. Hahahaha..... This post has been edited by slacker: Nov 12 2006, 03:12 PM |
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Singaporean = Lifeless creature..
It's pretty obvious that working in Singapore (for Malaysian) is only for the sweet conversion rate. Other than that... sigh.... Sorry I'm pretty much a KL supporter This post has been edited by Demitri: Nov 12 2006, 04:01 PM |
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Sorry, folks...all talk and no answers...this will show you a better perspective of Singapore's employer/employee fund contribution and withdrawal/deduction...
http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Employers/Gen-Info...ri/ContriRa.htm bottom line... for money...Singapore is ok. |
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:01 PM) Sorry, folks...all talk and no answers...this will show you a better perspective of Singapore's employer/employee fund contribution and withdrawal/deduction... Yup! I agree, SIngapore is okay if we plan to earn and save money for future. Long term, better come back to Malaysia http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Employers/Gen-Info...ri/ContriRa.htm bottom line... for money...Singapore is ok. |
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Well, for me, i decided not to go Singapore because thinking to "contribute" back to Malaysia.
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QUOTE(eddychstu @ Nov 7 2006, 12:46 PM) er...u dont pay yr parents? wat abt entertainment? we r toking about sg expenses wat,.....y need to include my parents??btw, sgd450 for room is crazy, i can pay installment for a mid range apartment with the rent sgd450 for a room in city centre is not crazy wat. the room comes wif internet xs, all bills, room tv and also a weekly maid.....i dun think its expensive since it dollar to dollar in sg. In msia also like rm300 rite? but the pay sux aint it? This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Nov 13 2006, 12:36 AM |
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need anyone who has the info pls.
how is singapore paying for fresh grads in engineering?? what is the std price?? and is oil and gas paying high?? i heard is real high but i see some of u guys are saying ur pay in oil and gas industries are rather low. Need ur guys advices thx |
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If i'm not mistaken even with PR you cannot solely buy a HDB unit, you will need to co-own the unit with another PR.
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Spore is a better place to earn your salary. Standard of living is also lower than in Malaysia. Taking public transport is a breeze compare with our notRapid KL. Crime rate is also low. Never heard of snatch thief and Mat rempit over there.
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QUOTE(d2e_7 @ Nov 11 2006, 12:42 PM) If u want to get a PR u must at least work in Singapore 1 year and have to contribute wit CPF... also they want to see your SPM result (5 credit )... And depends on what skill u have they prefer technical skill or professional skill (accountant, engineering, IT ) I know of people getting PRs within a few months. About 3 months fastest -given the processing time is already 2 months... For me I took my time and still got it after 8 months (I applied on the 6th month I was there).And the last thing is depends on luck... good luck to ur friend... Not sure if that 1 year minimum working period applies to all working visa types. Is it stipulated by MOM officially? Even if not, I'll bet those with Employment Passes might be more favoured compared to the more common Working Pass or S-Passes. |
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 13 2006, 11:10 AM) Spore is a better place to earn your salary. Standard of living is also lower than in Malaysia. Taking public transport is a breeze compare with our notRapid KL. Crime rate is also low. Never heard of snatch thief and Mat rempit over there. You mean higher?COST of living, I feel, is a bit lower, dollar for ringgit. However, owning even decent property will make you servitude to the bank for a number of decades. |
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QUOTE(cjtune @ Nov 13 2006, 11:14 AM) I know of people getting PRs within a few months. About 3 months fastest -given the processing time is already 2 months... For me I took my time and still got it after 8 months (I applied on the 6th month I was there). i will apply next year..but 1 we hv to change work permit to S passes first than hv to wait is about 1 month than thay will deside ur form success or not..if can than u will countinue to apply PR if not...cannot leh..Not sure if that 1 year minimum working period applies to all working visa types. Is it stipulated by MOM officially? Even if not, I'll bet those with Employment Passes might be more favoured compared to the more common Working Pass or S-Passes. what to do... |
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if go sg just for the sweet conversion rate then why not go further like Uk or US that can earn much more higher conversion rate ?
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QUOTE(say_it @ Nov 13 2006, 07:03 PM) if go sg just for the sweet conversion rate then why not go further like Uk or US that can earn much more higher conversion rate ? never got chance to go there how to go??apply already but never get reply.. maybe no luck to work at US or UK..only got luck in singapore what to do work here lol... anyway u got any lubang to work at UK or US ha?? |
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QUOTE if go sg just for the sweet conversion rate then why not go further like Uk or US that can earn much more higher conversion rate ? US and UK too far i guess? if in singapore u can come bck more often..~! |
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QUOTE(William_Yeo @ Oct 27 2006, 12:19 PM) i used to worked in Singapore for two weeks, the life ther is pretty good ! especially the environment the is d@m secure and the ppl ther are civilized ! not like Malaysia so many "SAKAI"...... gotta agree with that.. people are much more civilized Malaysia? |
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sad to say, i hav to agree ler.... Singapore is a much more better place to stay in compared to malaysia, except for some places like in some parts of kl and putra/cyber jaya. in singapore almost everything is better there, the payrate, the price of stuff u buy, the environment, the ppl, all kinds lah. it's all so great.
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The lower crime rate would give people a peace of mind.
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working in SG ?
I studied there for 5 and worked for 2 . what is it like ? Very political , any big company whether GLC or MNC is VERY political . if you are a woman then it's ok , man esp Chinese man watch out . |
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Nov 17 2006, 02:24 AM) working in SG ? y thay all bochap ha??I studied there for 5 and worked for 2 . what is it like ? Very political , any big company whether GLC or MNC is VERY political . if you are a woman then it's ok , man esp Chinese man watch out . for me no problem ones.. as long as u know how to get long wit them sure ok.. sometimes work very chia lak..but u hv to know how to control ur mine... happy working is the most important.. |
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last time i got offer SGD4500..turn down them..coz scare to go alone there
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scared to go ? why ?
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spore sure got better lifestyle alhough those ah beng are quite materialistic lolx
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Nov 21 2006, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(ts1 @ Nov 17 2006, 03:37 PM) what a waste man...my company only pay me $1500..i also dun hv any relative n friends here..i`m alone no need to scare lar..u must be strong.. i also can help u ma.. now almost 5 month i`m here..so far no problem.. sometimes home sick lar but what to do hv to sacrificed.. |
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my uncle works there,i will say that u must just forget about spending time with ur family. u must be f***ing hard working, that is for sure
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QUOTE(hotdog @ Nov 23 2006, 01:36 PM) my uncle works there,i will say that u must just forget about spending time with ur family[ then what's the use of government campaign to promote family values?well, what to do? singapore is fast paced compared to australia. |
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90% of singaporeans like to boast of what they do and have....things are very expensive, what a sickness to work there
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it has nothing to do with the race...it's the brain
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Nov 23 2006, 11:34 PM
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Being a PR only benefits your children more. Like me, I'm WAS 2nd generation PR there. I enjoy the same school fee in govt sch like any other Singaporeans, which is like SGD14 per mth. Compared to overseas student paying SGD100 plus each mth.
BUT, in the end, for guys you have to make a decision whether to serve NS. After serving your NS, you are given a choice to take their citizenship or to remain as PR. But bear in mind, being a PR do not give you any benefit like the shares and bonus given out. And also you have to have a job to maintain your PR. By accepting the citizenship, you have to give up your Msian citizenship, and your childen will have to be Sporean and go thru NS. By not wanting to go thru NS, you have to give up your PR All of my friends will agree that serving NS is a waste of time, they rather go into Uni and get a degree. Those are my Singapore friends (I do not have any friends in Msia at all). However by not wanting to thru NS, you have to give up your PR status and somehow get blacklisted or marked by Ministry of Defence. So you see, either way you have to lose something. Staying in Singapore is great, as that is where my family and friends are, and I feel more at home, not that I dislike Msia or anything, and I am not afraid to say that I can't even sing Msia's national anthem nor speak BM, cos where you grow up and spend your best time will always be the place in your heart, but sometimes, things may not turn out to be what you want and you just have to live with it. So to all those who wants to work and settle in Singapore, you really have to think of your future. For those who just want to work and earn some $$ there, by all means if you think you can save more there. |
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Nov 25 2006, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(substance @ Nov 23 2006, 11:34 PM) Being a PR only benefits your children more. Like me, I'm WAS 2nd generation PR there. I enjoy the same school fee in govt sch like any other Singaporeans, which is like SGD14 per mth. Compared to overseas student paying SGD100 plus each mth. Hi substance, i thinking to ask for transfer to my Singapore branch office but just check with you as below 1st before decideBUT, in the end, for guys you have to make a decision whether to serve NS. After serving your NS, you are given a choice to take their citizenship or to remain as PR. But bear in mind, being a PR do not give you any benefit like the shares and bonus given out. And also you have to have a job to maintain your PR. By accepting the citizenship, you have to give up your Msian citizenship, and your childen will have to be Sporean and go thru NS. By not wanting to go thru NS, you have to give up your PR All of my friends will agree that serving NS is a waste of time, they rather go into Uni and get a degree. Those are my Singapore friends (I do not have any friends in Msia at all). However by not wanting to thru NS, you have to give up your PR status and somehow get blacklisted or marked by Ministry of Defence. So you see, either way you have to lose something. Staying in Singapore is great, as that is where my family and friends are, and I feel more at home, not that I dislike Msia or anything, and I am not afraid to say that I can't even sing Msia's national anthem nor speak BM, cos where you grow up and spend your best time will always be the place in your heart, but sometimes, things may not turn out to be what you want and you just have to live with it. So to all those who wants to work and settle in Singapore, you really have to think of your future. For those who just want to work and earn some $$ there, by all means if you think you can save more there. 1, how fast I can get a PR if I work in Singapore with salary S$4k but without degree? 2, if I get PR how much a month for my kid to join their school ( primary school ) 3, can servive ( sorry, wrong spelling ) with 4k salary with a wife with no working and 3 kid in primary school with rent HDB flat 4, how the CPF and the tax been calculate THNAKS IN ADVANCE |
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Nov 26 2006, 12:46 PM
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Hi... I wan ask anyone of you know of any job opportunities in Sg? next month I wan go Sg d... The prob is no job. accommmodation my fren can help us. but headache, no job. anyone can intro good jobs? we just wan work not long la. mayb until next year june...
+ if i start working in sg next month(dec), are we going to be taxed? |
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QUOTE(tkhoo @ Nov 25 2006, 12:27 PM) Hi substance, i thinking to ask for transfer to my Singapore branch office but just check with you as below 1st before decide Hi tkhoo, I don't think I'm in the right position to answer all your question. But 4K is enough for you to survive. Its consider as middle-income family.1, how fast I can get a PR if I work in Singapore with salary S$4k but without degree? 2, if I get PR how much a month for my kid to join their school ( primary school ) 3, can servive ( sorry, wrong spelling ) with 4k salary with a wife with no working and 3 kid in primary school with rent HDB flat 4, how the CPF and the tax been calculate THNAKS IN ADVANCE PR is subjected, as the policy changes everynow and then. The school fees for govt primary school is cheap. Like I said you will be paying the local rates. I do not know how much it is now. But its definately not a problem. I think if you require more information, you should write in to the immigration dept, they will be able to provide you all the answers. |
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Nov 27 2006, 01:32 AM
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da living standard is very high....my cousin work rm4000 a month oso not enough 2 spend there....
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Nov 27 2006, 02:27 AM
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it depent every 1 spending limit...What is enough,what is not?There are no such thing can say ENOUGH! I been working at SIN for past 5years here..so far i love M'sia and S'pore... |
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Nov 27 2006, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(ronaldlaw @ Nov 27 2006, 02:27 AM) it depent every 1 spending limit...What is enough,what is not?There are no such thing can say ENOUGH! yeh dude..me too..I been working at SIN for past 5years here..so far i love M'sia and S'pore... so far i work only 5 month.. if we know how to manage our money i think should be no problem.. but for me the problem is i`m very lonely lol maybe i`m new here or i really miss my gurl in KL |
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QUOTE(d2e_7 @ Nov 27 2006, 10:11 PM) yeh dude..me too.. Same ere...feeling home sickso far i work only 5 month.. if we know how to manage our money i think should be no problem.. but for me the problem is i`m very lonely lol maybe i`m new here or i really miss my gurl in KL For a norm person to live in comfort, SGD1500 is more than enuf to survive liaoz. Thats y i said, must earn more than SGD2500...else not worth coming here. Earn in Msia better... This post has been edited by mIssfROGY: Nov 28 2006, 12:49 AM |
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Hi guys, wanted to ask how's the work life of a programmer in Singapore? Actually i'm working as a mainframe Cobol Programmer in foreign bank here in K.L but lately been seriously considering looking for a position in Singapore. Thanks
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Nov 28 2006, 12:48 AM) Same ere...feeling home sick Haha, then might consider goin to Geylang area to seek entertainment and release tension.. For a norm person to live in comfort, SGD1500 is more than enuf to survive liaoz. Thats y i said, must earn more than SGD2500...else not worth coming here. Earn in Msia better... |
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Nov 28 2006, 12:48 AM) For a norm person to live in comfort, SGD1500 is more than enuf to survive liaoz. hmm. then u must be earning >SGD2.5kThats y i said, must earn more than SGD2500...else not worth coming here. Earn in Msia better... btw, how you guys started to work in sg? 1st day in sg, look for room first? what visa is given for job seeker? how long? thx |
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Well i'm 16. Live in Skudai JB. Think of looking for part time job after i finish my SPM next year. Any job recommendation? Btw, what is the price of suzuki hayabusa in SG? In malaysia it cost more than RM 80K++. if it cheaper might consider study very hard and get job there instead(no part-time coz can't afford superbike if work as toilet cleaner). By the way, is there any work in singapore that involve with automobile engineering, because i'm an engineer students. What is the starting salary for fresh graduate in automotive industry. I like to be engineer that enhance the vehicle performance.
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QUOTE(giasens @ Dec 29 2006, 10:22 PM) hmm. then u must be earning >SGD2.5k If you get some executive post -it's almost guaranteed that you'll earn at least S$2.5k. It's part of the requirements for the MOM to issue you an Employment Pass and Employment Pass applications (by S'porean employers) have much higher chances of getting approved than the lower-tier S-pass or Working Pass. So the more highly sought-after you are, the more you will get paid by your S'pore employer to ensure your acceptance by the MOM. Even for the Employment Pass, there are several grades (eg. P1, P2, Q1, Q2, etc.) according to how much you are to be paid. You can browse the MOM site for more details as to the duration of validity and application requirements of the various work visas/passes: www.mom.gov.sgbtw, how you guys started to work in sg? 1st day in sg, look for room first? what visa is given for job seeker? how long? thx You should start looking for places to stay about a couple of weeks before you're expected to have your working visa approved (Employment Passes can take up to 1 month for approval; not sure about the other working visas). Try www.adpost.com/sg. This is so you can have time to survey which places are best for you. Your life can be hell if stuck with the wrong housemates or landlords. Avoid landlords who have no experience renting out rooms or have bad things to say about their previous tenants. Talk to them to try and gauge their nature -the realty agents can only say good things about the landlords they are trying to match-make with you (they will ask for 0.5 month's rental from you as commission, BTW). |
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Jan 1 2007, 04:08 PM
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if the salary offered is $1400-1500, should the job be taken up? still need to rent a room, pay expenses ( food, transport ), tax and all. do you think money could be saved after deducting all these?
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QUOTE(eternalflame @ Jan 1 2007, 04:08 PM) if the salary offered is $1400-1500, should the job be taken up? still need to rent a room, pay expenses ( food, transport ), tax and all. do you think money could be saved after deducting all these? You get free wireless internet upto 512kbps in Singapore as part of the government's Wireless@SG initiative.YES FREE!Overview Wireless@SG is a wireless broadband programme developed by IDA as part of its Next Generation National Infocomm Infrastructure initiative. It will be run and developed in the next two years by three local wireless operators who will deploy a wireless broadband network in Singapore. Users can enjoy free, both in-door and outdoor seamless wireless broadband access with speeds of up to 512kbps at most public areas. The targeted users of this wireless broadband network are broadly classified as "people on the move" - people who require wireless broadband access while away from their homes, schools and offices. These include students, tourists, business travellers and enterprise users such as insurance agents and real estate agents who use widely-available and wireless-enabled devices such as notebook PCs and PDAs. Once connected, users will be able to access all Internet-based services e.g. online gaming, web surfing, instant messaging, VoIP and email. http://www.ida.gov.sg/Programmes/200610271...?getPagetype=36 You have 3 isps to choose from to register: iCell, QMax and SingTel With that you've already save on broadband every month. The only 2 things you need to worry much about are the room rentals and eating out.When it comes to facilities, Singapore is just next to Japan in Asia. Singapore is also embarking on a national broadband network which will deliver at least 100mbps initially to all its people and eventually symmetrical 1gbps when it is fully up. Next Generation National Broadband Network (Next Gen NBN) Singapore's Next Generation National Infocomm Infrastructure comprises the ultra high-speed Next Generation NBN and the pervasive Wireless Broadband Network (WBN). The Next Gen NBN will entrench Singapore's Infocomm hub status and open doors to new economic opportunities, business growth and social vibrancy for the country. Next Gen NBN will be capable of ultra high speeds of symmetric 1 Gbps or more, with initial provisioning of 100 Mbps. |
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The greatest difference between SG and MY are cars and trains. Seriously if you like driving, you'll hate SG. On the other hand if you hate driving it's not too bad. Plus you save on petrol and car payments, etc. The downside of course is that your mobility is kinda restricted to MRT / cab / foot.
SG's also pretty safe to walk around at night (in the city, Orchard and quayside area. I wouldn't know about Geylang ;p). (the salsa scene is not bad either!) |
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QUOTE(eternalflame @ Jan 1 2007, 04:08 PM) if the salary offered is $1400-1500, should the job be taken up? still need to rent a room, pay expenses ( food, transport ), tax and all. do you think money could be saved after deducting all these? Yes, this is quite a valid concern. Most M'sian low-income earners (read: blue-collar workers) prefer to work in S'pore but live in JB for this reason.You can probably live with just S$500 or even less per month in S'pore but you'll have to be very frugal and life would be quite miserable -like a uni student but without the uni subsidies and student-discounts... I'd say to live comfortably, and to afford the occasional gadget, it's more like S$800+ per month for living expenses. BTW, the island-wide free internet thingy is expected to be fully operational only be the end of next year. Right now it's just major shopping malls and near gov't offices and the city centre. |
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i was at singapore a few weeks back, drove there.
i notice it was drizzling abit but people were still walking around and jogging, i suppose they don't mind coz they're used to it becoz dependant on public transport. malaysians very pariah coz too dependant on cards, won't go out when raining. when it rains suddenly everyone will disapear. i also notice people will be walking around even dressed in their sunday's best. |
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I want to ask those JB-ians working in SG,
their passport mah kena chopped everyday? or they use chipped passport? FYI, i nvr been to sg, nor own a passport |
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Jan 2 2007, 12:36 AM
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Thou I am currently not working in SG now (used to long time ago), I feel its a great place to work and learn. Things are more serious, competitive and fair over there. The only expensive thing working tere is a place to stay, around (SGD 350-500), the rest are much more lower compared to MY, unless you are always doing the "currency exchange" thingy. With SGD100, you can actually survive more then a week. In MY, RM50 doesn't even last 1-2 days most of the time.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 1 2007, 10:57 PM) i was at singapore a few weeks back, drove there. Yeah, we don't mind if it's just light rain, and transportation is very reliable and safe.i notice it was drizzling abit but people were still walking around and jogging, i suppose they don't mind coz they're used to it becoz dependant on public transport. malaysians very pariah coz too dependant on cards, won't go out when raining. when it rains suddenly everyone will disapear. i also notice people will be walking around even dressed in their sunday's best. |
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QUOTE(starblade @ Jan 2 2007, 12:36 AM) Thou I am currently not working in SG now (used to long time ago), I feel its a great place to work and learn. Things are more serious, competitive and fair over there. The only expensive thing working tere is a place to stay, around (SGD 350-500), the rest are much more lower compared to MY, unless you are always doing the "currency exchange" thingy. With SGD100, you can actually survive more then a week. In MY, RM50 doesn't even last 1-2 days most of the time. Ya....sometimes SGD50 can last more than a week on daily expenses. |
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Jan 2 2007, 01:54 AM) A week with less than 50 is really low. Do you guys suggest me to work at Sg and travels through customs everyday? My family at JB... Too bad I would be fresh grads.. if not can ask missfrogy to help me find job.. :'( Does industrial training experience count? At here, I living at wangsa maju area here... NO matter how I safe, RM50 just not enough for a week. |
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QUOTE(littleway @ Jan 2 2007, 04:23 AM) A week with less than 50 is really low. Do you guys suggest me to work at Sg and travels through customs everyday? My family at JB... Too bad I would be fresh grads.. if not can ask missfrogy to help me find job.. :'( Does industrial training experience count? Hello DudeAt here, I living at wangsa maju area here... NO matter how I safe, RM50 just not enough for a week. On the peddling back and forth from JB to SG, it depends on your work location as well. If you are working in area like Woodland or Ang Mo Kio, it is advisable to stay put with family to cut down the cost. For the fast access to Singapore, you can always apply for the access card which work like the malaysia passport biometric system. For job hunting, it is a uphill task as you do not have a work permit on hand or Singapore Permanent Residency to help you. In order to have the work permit, you must get your potential employer to hire and sponsor for the work permit. Trust this help you. |
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QUOTE(giasens @ Jan 2 2007, 12:14 AM) I want to ask those JB-ians working in SG, No the S'pore ICA will not stamp your passport if you have a valid long-term immigrations pass like a work pass or student's pass. Now they even have a 'driver's pass' (or whatever it's called) to accomodate those ppl who frequently need to drive into S'pore to do business (like my S'pore company's chartered M'sian taxis). Their autogates only accept their own kind of pass card, and not our M'sian passport's RFID chips.their passport mah kena chopped everyday? or they use chipped passport? FYI, i nvr been to sg, nor own a passport If you need to have your passport stamped everytime you have to go to work in S'pore... you're an illegal worker. |
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QUOTE(cjtune @ Jan 2 2007, 11:37 AM) No the S'pore ICA will not stamp your passport if you have a valid long-term immigrations pass like a work pass or student's pass. Now they even have a 'driver's pass' (or whatever it's called) to accomodate those ppl who frequently need to drive into S'pore to do business (like my S'pore company's chartered M'sian taxis). Their autogates only accept their own kind of pass card, and not our M'sian passport's RFID chips. is it the same as the cash card they asked me to pat SGD10 for at the customs?If you need to have your passport stamped everytime you have to go to work in S'pore... you're an illegal worker. QUOTE(littleway @ Jan 2 2007, 04:23 AM) At here, I living at wangsa maju area here... NO matter how I safe, RM50 just not enough for a week. Blood sucking mamak will cost you almost rm10 each time you're there. Unless you each roti kosong and air kosong only lah. |
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hi guys,.,plan to work in s'pore maybe June 07...tat time i hav 1 yr + experience.
@mIssfROGY Would like to ask weather Telco line is good there? Im doing CDMA- Core Network, RF (Radio Frequency), Network Survey, Network Planning, Network Optimization and BSS field.. Everything relatad to Telco. Would Singtel or whatever telco possible to get a secure job there? Just some opinion will do. And what is the approx pay there? Thanks BS, Terence This post has been edited by terencetoo: Jan 2 2007, 02:33 PM |
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QUOTE(jeromelee1 @ Jan 2 2007, 09:50 AM) Hello Dude That means, is hardly to get company who willing to help me on getting work permit? Coz if I don't go there work, is hardly for me to get PR, since non of my family members are PR holders. On the peddling back and forth from JB to SG, it depends on your work location as well. If you are working in area like Woodland or Ang Mo Kio, it is advisable to stay put with family to cut down the cost. For the fast access to Singapore, you can always apply for the access card which work like the malaysia passport biometric system. For job hunting, it is a uphill task as you do not have a work permit on hand or Singapore Permanent Residency to help you. In order to have the work permit, you must get your potential employer to hire and sponsor for the work permit. Trust this help you. QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 2 2007, 01:59 PM) is it the same as the cash card they asked me to pat SGD10 for at the customs? Just ask for the Nasi Lemak biasa, and 1 teh tarik, it cost you arund rm2.90 at BRJ. Blood sucking mamak will cost you almost rm10 each time you're there. Unless you each roti kosong and air kosong only lah. |
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just for reconfirmation:
if i work in singapore more than half a year, i'll be paying my tax using the normal resident rate: http://www.iras.gov.sg/ESVPortal/iit/iit-s...individuals.asp which means if i got 2.5k per month that's around paying 5.5% tax right? |
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can i know what MNCs in spore that as reputable as Intel, Agilent Motorola, HP, etc like in Penang industrial zone?
where all those companies located mostly? Woodland? im from EE engineering background |
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jan 3 2007, 04:18 PM) can i know what MNCs in spore that as reputable as Intel, Agilent Motorola, HP, etc like in Penang industrial zone? Spore also has Agilent, Motorola, HP, Seagate etc... Most MNCs has branches at Spore. If not the manufacturing plant, at least a sales or hub office. And they existing at more than 1 location for eg HP, Seagate, Motorola. where all those companies located mostly? Woodland? im from EE engineering background Most mfg plants/factories located "outskirt" of Spore. West side for eg Jurong is the area where most plants/factories are. But Spore so small, everywhere is near to each other. |
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Is it difficult for graduates in IT to get a job there and ask for the employer to sponsor for the working permit application??? Most of the jobs i seen on jobstreet/jobsdb SG always restricted applicants to Singaporean/Singapore PR...Other nationalities will not be attended.
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QUOTE(guybrush @ Jan 3 2007, 05:16 PM) Is it difficult for graduates in IT to get a job there and ask for the employer to sponsor for the working permit application??? Most of the jobs i seen on jobstreet/jobsdb SG always restricted applicants to Singaporean/Singapore PR...Other nationalities will not be attended. Ask Miss Froggy...she's IT recruiter at Spore. but if u dun mind contract job, IT shall be easy to get job there. And employer usually apply work permit at their cost if they really wanna recruit u. |
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Jan 3 2007, 08:39 PM
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i'm johorian, live sumwhere consider "near" JB (around 30 minutes for car driving). I worked at sg for almost 8 months already. What i can say the main dference of 2 country is the government.
I'm not try to be discuss deep into political field. But indeed, this is the main source make everything so dference. I'm dun giv a damn on those ppl say the ppl work in sg is some sort of wad betrayers la, not love our "malaysia boleh" enuff la, bla bla bla. As every ppl got their freedom to choose a rite path for their future, since this country offer u a better offer, y dun giv it a shot? I'm not saying about sg is most great country in this world, she got some disadvantages also. nth is perfect. jux like whoever wanna work in sg, the process to get work permit, work pass, employment pass and etc (they dferentiate til quite detail) is quite troublesome. Most of da ppl may get piss off while goin through this process. Anyway, like it or not, u do need it to work in sg. For me, SG is an ideal place for me to get experiences, learn new and latest things compare to KL. Of coz, not every field may work for dis. That's y i choose SG rather then KL. so far, this is wad i wanna share wif u all, may write sumthin again when i free. For the ppl wanna come SG work, ya, u need some sum of $$ as u need pay for ur rental (deposit + 1 month rental + agency commision) if u dun have any relative live in sg. N bware that, only legal work pass holder can rent room in sg, other than that, it's consider illegal. So dun get cheated by some irresponsible agent jux wan ur $$. |
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Jan 3 2007, 08:56 PM
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how long usually does it take to settle all the working permit stuff?
usually how much money does it takes if it's a monthly SD400 room? (like u said -- deposit + 1 month rental + agency) |
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Jan 3 2007, 09:06 PM
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mostly around 2 - 3 weeks to process all da things.
1st, u get hired, then ur employee apply wadever kind of work pass for u. Then waitin for approval from the ministry of manpower, then u need go for a bodycheck (blood test for HIV and others sickness, X-ray) that will cost u around S$40++. Then after get approval in ur health situation, submit the form again to the department. then waitin their inform for u get the work pass o not. then u need go take pic (adviced that take at the place u get ur work pass) for the work pass then submit again, then around 3-4 days then can get ur work pass. Most of the employee will pay for u for the work pass, some may ask u for 50 - 50. And some crappy boss will ask u pay urself for 100%. normally, rent a room that near town area is around S$300 for a normal single room. The more far from town area, the cheaper and vice versa. if assume is 300 for a room. Then is 300 + 300 + ?? dpends the agent how charge u. Normally is fixed rate. But i cant rili remember the rate now. sorry. |
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Jan 3 2007, 10:58 PM
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ok, since i'm free now although stil stucked in the office. i post more info. hehe
Most of the ppl worry about cant speak fluent english then dun dare go sg work. Actually i can tell u dis, except u're enter a big MNC that full wif oversea colleague or the job require u to speak fluent english, other than that i dun think speak english will be a massive drawback for u to work in sg. Not every company in sg are speaking "fluent" english all da time, trust me. Ya, cant be deny that is advisable that u can speak but i dun think is jux workin in sg require u to do so. And speaking such thing, the more u speak the more fluent u wil be, so, dun b afraid, jux speak. Dun feel malu and angry when ppl try to correct ur speaking, listen and learn it. Someday after this, u wil b the ppl try to correct others. Speaking of public transport, for sure, they're lot better then malaysia. Dun b worry of wanna get a car in sg for the sake of working. Their public transport are good, wad time stated got bus, then there are those buses. Wont got wad major delay normally. Some ppl may think wad if i work in sales? need travel a lot daily. OK, there are lot n lot of cabs or taxi out there in sg. And dun worry of being "chopped" coz they only can charge according meters in their taxi. I'm not promote sg to u guys, as i also quite hate their government most of da time |
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Jan 4 2007, 12:25 AM
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Does bodycheck need to be done only in SG certified medical centre or even from JB would be accepted?
And is it means that after employer confirms you, you still need to wait about a month or more just to get your permit done? My place is around 30mins to Customs too, so usually what time you left your house to work? Thanks.. |
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Jan 4 2007, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 2 2007, 01:59 PM) No... I think you're referring to the Cashcard for paying the daily VEP fees (if you don't have the ERP device in your car) for vehicles entering S'pore.The card I'm referring to is a laminated, lime-green-coloured immigration pass card. You just need to present that card along with your passport to the S'pore immigrations officer. This is how the student/work/frequent travellers' pass is used at the S'pore checkpoint. No need to fill in the immigrations 'white card' if you have one of those long-term immigration passes. |
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QUOTE(littleway @ Jan 4 2007, 12:25 AM) Does bodycheck need to be done only in SG certified medical centre or even from JB would be accepted? Should be just the usual X-ray for TB, HIV and Hepatitis blood tests. Yes you can have those done in M'sia. And is it means that after employer confirms you, you still need to wait about a month or more just to get your permit done? Yes, even after getting the job offer, you'd still have to wait for the Ministry of Manpower's approval for your working pass, and no law-abiding S'porean or PR there will rent a place to you if you have no confirmed long-term immigration pass. Your company's HR should keep you updated of the application process of your working pass -most of the time, the HR will do it for you but I've heard of small-time S'porean employers just leaving the entire working pass application process to the candidate employee. |
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Jan 4 2007, 06:30 AM
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so I got to find work in sg while IM in malaysia or find work in sg after I gone down to sg ?
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QUOTE(cjtune @ Jan 4 2007, 02:06 AM) Should be just the usual X-ray for TB, HIV and Hepatitis blood tests. Yes you can have those done in M'sia. Ok thanks... since I stay at JB, accomodations won't be any problem. Another question is, if I quit the jobs in that company which apply work permit for me, does my work permit still valid? Or it would be cancelled upon resign? It seems that I have to be tied to one company before I able to get the PR.Yes, even after getting the job offer, you'd still have to wait for the Ministry of Manpower's approval for your working pass, and no law-abiding S'porean or PR there will rent a place to you if you have no confirmed long-term immigration pass. Your company's HR should keep you updated of the application process of your working pass -most of the time, the HR will do it for you but I've heard of small-time S'porean employers just leaving the entire working pass application process to the candidate employee. |
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Jan 4 2007, 10:30 AM
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littleway, i rent a unit in sg wif my frens, so i only go back msia when weekend. This is because my job will work til damn late most of da time so i cant rili travel between msian and sg, it wil kill me if i do tat.
Normally after u get ur work permit, u are required to work 180 days then only can quit for avoid some leceh stuff. The leceh stuff i refer is they will charge 15%(not sure) of your income if you didnt work enuff 180days in sg then quit. I also not so sure about dis regulation as some ppl did tat, but they didnt kena the charge. And the work pass is under ur employer name, so after u resign, ur work pass wil be cancel too. There's only 2 special condition: 1) U holding a new type of work pass called PEP, Profesional Employee Pass (sumthing like dis) that u can free from employer when change job but with many condition. Like ur salary mostly must over S$2,500, u're in those profesional field such as lawyer, doctor, and etc. 2) U r a PR (Permanent Resident) of sg, so u're not required to hold a work pass to work in sg. In order to get PR, it wil b a long and troublesome process. I think if any ppl wanna know dis, better google search for dis, i also not sure about some process in apply PR as i dun plan to apply for now. |
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Jan 4 2007, 10:50 AM
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If its that easy to get a job and work permit then do you think there's anymore place in Singapore for their own citizen?
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Jan 4 2007, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(alucard31 @ Jan 4 2007, 10:30 AM) 2) U r a PR (Permanent Resident) of sg, so u're not required to hold a work pass to work in sg. In order to get PR, it wil b a long and troublesome process. I think if any ppl wanna know dis, better google search for dis, i also not sure about some process in apply PR as i dun plan to apply for now. The PR is very easy to get if you have degree, your profession is in good demand and is Malaysian Chinese. (based on my assumption)Normally they will told you to wait for 3 months before the PR is approved. Most of my friends get it in 1 month time. |
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Jan 4 2007, 10:57 AM
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can i know what is the normal pay for our malaysian there for engineer around 2 yrs experience?
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jan 4 2007, 10:57 AM) 2 years experience very good pay...What type of engineer ? Your degree is from where ? Some of the engineering job need the degree recognise from PE board. Fresh grad average is $2400. for a comparison, broadband 12Mbps fees is around $71 and free 1 HP core duo 2 laptop if you sign up as new customer. |
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Jan 4 2007, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 4 2007, 11:03 AM) 2 years experience very good pay... E&E and software engineering, can do both electronic, application design, IC design or software engineer but prefer the first 3.What type of engineer ? Your degree is from where ? Some of the engineering job need the degree recognise from PE board. Fresh grad average is $2400. for a comparison, broadband 12Mbps fees is around $71 and free 1 HP core duo 2 laptop if you sign up as new customer. 2 yrs experience in application design and software engineer. my degree is from local TARC, campbell U colloboration What company u recommend that have good reputation and offer good pay and good learning culture and environment? btw, we can apply for broadband there even though we are not PR? thanks This post has been edited by harrychoo: Jan 4 2007, 11:07 AM |
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Jan 4 2007, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jan 4 2007, 11:06 AM) E&E and software engineering, can do both electronic, application design, IC design or software engineer but prefer the first 3. EEE is very high pay leh... 2 yrs experience in application design and software engineer. my degree is from local TARC, campbell U colloboration What company u recommend that have good reputation and offer good pay and good learning culture and environment? btw, we can apply for broadband there even though we are not PR? thanks I don't know what company to recommend you because I am not from EEE. I am from Civil engineering. EEE is the most highly pay among the engineering. Of course can apply for broadband, but you need to have the employment pass first. It is very good here when apply for broadband because they will give you brand new core duo HP laptop. |
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Jan 4 2007, 11:18 AM
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wat i know is -- singaporean has low birth rate, + their average age is getting older and older + their own ppl tend to migrate to other country like nz, au or ca
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Jan 4 2007, 11:18 AM) wat i know is -- singaporean has low birth rate, + their average age is getting older and older + their own ppl tend to migrate to other country like nz, au or ca Yes Spore is having low birth rate, so they encourage foreign talents. For Msian, u merely need a SPM 5 credits to land u a work pass, and subsequently can apply PR after worked there for 6 mths. If u r a degree holder, chances to get PR approval is higher. As PR, u can change any jobs without tie by the work pass employer. Can buy house with another PR at open mkt. Enjoy subsidized school fee (for dip and above - good for upgrading), subsidized medical and hospitalization fee at Spore. Shorter q at custom as u take the "citizen and resident" lane. But u'll lose your SPR status if u are jobless and hit your re-entry permit renewal date. Re-entry permit is given at max 10-years duration. Unless u are a girl and married to local man, then u could get a dependant pass... |
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Jan 4 2007, 03:25 PM
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regarding to the body check-up, if the report shows that I've health problem that needs medication, do the SG employer still will hire me?
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QUOTE(cjtune @ Jan 4 2007, 02:06 AM) Should be just the usual X-ray for TB, HIV and Hepatitis blood tests. Yes you can have those done in M'sia. No, only only those certified by MOM are allowed, or they won't even accept your medical report. So you CANNOT do it in JB.Yes, even after getting the job offer, you'd still have to wait for the Ministry of Manpower's approval for your working pass, and no law-abiding S'porean or PR there will rent a place to you if you have no confirmed long-term immigration pass. Your company's HR should keep you updated of the application process of your working pass -most of the time, the HR will do it for you but I've heard of small-time S'porean employers just leaving the entire working pass application process to the candidate employee. This post has been edited by substance: Jan 4 2007, 03:53 PM |
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Jan 4 2007, 04:42 PM
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I think if pay above S$2.5K and above, the chances of getting PR is very high. I would be seekin job as fresh grads, so normally how much is offered to fresh grads? Does they count industrial training as experience too? Hopefully can get offer....
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Jan 4 2007, 06:17 PM
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Actually the pay wont b the major consideration for them as wad i thought. Cos some of my frens manage to get PR although their pay under S$2.5k. They mostly will look at type of job u work as in sg, ur education level, working experiences...... It can say all depends on ur luck after u submit the application for PR. Some ppl can get reply in 1 month, some ppl after 3 months also no news.
Anyway sg government just cut down PR's benefit recently, so apply or not it's up to ppl work in sg. For your all information, as what i know Work Permit Holder cant apply PR. Although u got the Rambo spirit, die die wan apply, they also got the Rambo spirit, die die wont give u PR if u're work permit holder. My info might not be the latest cos sometimes they will change the regulation according to the situation. |
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Jan 4 2007, 06:20 PM
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lol...i can get free broadband wif wireless@SG
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QUOTE(giasens @ Jan 4 2007, 04:42 PM) HAHAHA...Now you know that the Streamyx will never can compete with Singapore Broadband. The max speed here is 100Mbps and Lowest is the 6Mbps. I just got the HP desktop last time... This time I going to get the laptop.. Singtel and Starhub every year also got give out laptop...Last year Singtel give out Sony Bravia LCD tv. |
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QUOTE(Jewelgal @ Jan 4 2007, 03:25 PM) regarding to the body check-up, if the report shows that I've health problem that needs medication, do the SG employer still will hire me? what is your sickness ?They are very particular about it leh... last time i got chicken pox during my Uni time here, the doctor quickly ask me back to my hometown to recuperate for 2 weeks. The doctor even write down my particular and he said send to which department already.... |
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QUOTE(alucard31 @ Jan 4 2007, 06:17 PM) Actually the pay wont b the major consideration for them as wad i thought. Cos some of my frens manage to get PR although their pay under S$2.5k. They mostly will look at type of job u work as in sg, ur education level, working experiences...... It can say all depends on ur luck after u submit the application for PR. Some ppl can get reply in 1 month, some ppl after 3 months also no news. yes, I agree with you...Anyway sg government just cut down PR's benefit recently, so apply or not it's up to ppl work in sg. For your all information, as what i know Work Permit Holder cant apply PR. Although u got the Rambo spirit, die die wan apply, they also got the Rambo spirit, die die wont give u PR if u're work permit holder. My info might not be the latest cos sometimes they will change the regulation according to the situation. My friends and I can get very fast response from them because we study here. You are right, work permit holder cannot apply for PR. Only S pass holder and above can apply for it. |
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QUOTE(littleway @ Jan 4 2007, 05:20 PM) I think if pay above S$2.5K and above, the chances of getting PR is very high. I would be seekin job as fresh grads, so normally how much is offered to fresh grads? Does they count industrial training as experience too? Hopefully can get offer.... It is not the $2.5k as the bench mark leh..... read the alucard31 post.The fresh grad pay is depend on your degree, whether it is recognise by Singapore or not. The average of fresh grad pay for the engineering field is $2.4 k. Some very good of course can get higher pay lah. |
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eurekas!! u're PR?! u lucky lad!!!
anyway, apply PR also have to c the political situation in sg, i got 1 fren apply b4 last time election, after 3 weeks get reply. hahaha So, luck rulez in PR application. anyway, eurekas u using sony which model notebook?? u bought in sg?? how much u bought it?? |
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QUOTE(alucard31 @ Jan 4 2007, 08:03 PM) eurekas!! u're PR?! u lucky lad!!! I study here mah, sure can get PR one anyway, apply PR also have to c the political situation in sg, i got 1 fren apply b4 last time election, after 3 weeks get reply. hahaha So, luck rulez in PR application. anyway, eurekas u using sony which model notebook?? u bought in sg?? how much u bought it?? You leh ? Stay where now ? My laptop bought for 2 years ago leh, VGN-A19GP bought for RM 7k++. The Sony not bad, now still can perform. Currently using the Black Imac notebook, going to redeem my HP notebook from Starhub soon |
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Wah... work permit can't get PR.. then I mah die die can't get PR?? I don't know if Campbell Certs from TARC they recognize or not... plan to work there then further upgrade...
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QUOTE(alucard31 @ Jan 4 2007, 10:30 AM) littleway, i rent a unit in sg wif my frens, so i only go back msia when weekend. This is because my job will work til damn late most of da time so i cant rili travel between msian and sg, it wil kill me if i do tat. icic... i thinks my ex-colleague is holding tht pass... no wonder she can change job so fast ... Normally after u get ur work permit, u are required to work 180 days then only can quit for avoid some leceh stuff. The leceh stuff i refer is they will charge 15%(not sure) of your income if you didnt work enuff 180days in sg then quit. I also not so sure about dis regulation as some ppl did tat, but they didnt kena the charge. And the work pass is under ur employer name, so after u resign, ur work pass wil be cancel too. There's only 2 special condition: 1) U holding a new type of work pass called PEP, Profesional Employee Pass (sumthing like dis) that u can free from employer when change job but with many condition. Like ur salary mostly must over S$2,500, u're in those profesional field such as lawyer, doctor, and etc. 2) U r a PR (Permanent Resident) of sg, so u're not required to hold a work pass to work in sg. In order to get PR, it wil b a long and troublesome process. I think if any ppl wanna know dis, better google search for dis, i also not sure about some process in apply PR as i dun plan to apply for now. just working there for few months, and now jumping to another company jor... and my another ex-colleague is following her foots steps as well... |
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QUOTE(littleway @ Jan 4 2007, 10:03 PM) Wah... work permit can't get PR.. then I mah die die can't get PR?? I don't know if Campbell Certs from TARC they recognize or not... plan to work there then further upgrade... now the rules very strict, last time SPM 5 credit can apply liao.btw sg has a good environment if you want to further study on a part time basis. but u dun need to be pr to further study right? |
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eurekas, i stay at commonwealth. I'm not study at sg. Jux come here work, learn things and gain experience only. hehe.
vin_ann, i duno about how ur ex-colleague do that, but the PEP only start on this year according sg government news. i duno whether they got change the time after that or not la, i didnt follow up the news since i not belong to that category. littleway, u can try convert ur work permit to S pass or Employment Pass after u get the work permit and work for a while. |
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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 5 2007, 12:07 AM) now the rules very strict, last time SPM 5 credit can apply liao. NO mah... plan to migrate.. btw sg has a good environment if you want to further study on a part time basis. but u dun need to be pr to further study right? If I got a degree, can I directly apply for PEP? I read from the MOM websites, PEP starts on 2007 only wor... |
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planning to work in singapore sooner or later but still need more info about which companies are good there as im quite sceptical to join a not-so-good company
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perhaps first get a job + work permit (S/Q pass) then apply for PEP later for the future job change and PR application?
isn't study in singapore alot more expensive then in malaysia? how about the idea of working in singapore, while doing distance learning with malaysia programe? duh, i'm so going to singapore! edit: post back the info provided by jeromelee from my redundant thread about SG. QUOTE 1. Is working in Singapore requires working Visa? Even if we live in Singapore, can we do like JB-er do - go thru custom every 14 days? yes you need to have a working permit and more information can be obtain at http://app.ica.gov.sg/index.asp 2. Can we bring our car there? yes you can bring your car but the monthly charges will make u think twice with all the toll charges and parking charges. Singapore is so well organize in their transportation system. Why need a car? Unless you are working in malaysia. http://www.lta.gov.sg 3. What is the other mandatory expenses other than income tax there? You can borrow the thread to ask about other countries too. Income tax is a must and it is pretty taxing depending on what working pass you obtain. Employment pass is the best and I suggest you refer to no.1. www.iras.gov.sg This post has been edited by ky_khor: Jan 5 2007, 12:42 AM |
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QUOTE(littleway @ Jan 5 2007, 12:34 AM) NO mah... plan to migrate.. 2007? now is 2007 lah....If I got a degree, can I directly apply for PEP? I read from the MOM websites, PEP starts on 2007 only wor... ok i knew a case like this, she was my ex-colleague. now she is in england liao. she got a biz degree from UK, taken in sg (TMC). she joined our company holding work permit. eventually she manage to become PR. but i am not sure whether her marriage is a factor or not (she married a PR during that period) like someone said earlier, it's ok if your pay is less than 2.5k but if u hold a degree u still have chance. but the degree must be recognised by sg govt loh |
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Jan 5 2007, 12:37 AM) perhaps first get a job + work permit (S/Q pass) then apply for PEP later for the future job change and PR application? Although SG more expensive, but nevermind... at least quality is better than any institute in JB can provide. If got company sponsor for study like my uncles company... that would be sOoOOOoOOOo nice.... OMG... when I can have this chance.. isn't study in singapore alot more expensive then in malaysia? how about the idea of working in singapore, while doing distance learning with malaysia programe? duh, i'm so going to singapore! edit: post back the info provided by jeromelee from my redundant thread about SG. |
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Jan 5 2007, 12:37 AM) perhaps first get a job + work permit (S/Q pass) then apply for PEP later for the future job change and PR application? that should be the way lah. should try to settle down 1st. right now plan this plan that worry this worry that, what if end up u cant get used to the life in sg how?isn't study in singapore alot more expensive then in malaysia? how about the idea of working in singapore, while doing distance learning with malaysia programe? duh, i'm so going to singapore! edit: post back the info provided by jeromelee from my redundant thread about SG. ofcoz it's more expensive since u r paying SGD, but the learning environment and the atmosphere here is more vibrant than JB (i am from JB, dont know KL tho). govt and most of the employers encourage this as well. for the distant learning part, can do also. but u must be discipline, and need to work harder. another risk is not sure whether your distant learning prog is recognised here. btw i knew another colleague (an engineer, diff dept, Msian also) has taken distant learning from Unitar few years back, somemore is company sponsored. |
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Jan 5 2007, 01:00 AM
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yeah unless they sponsored u. else i would rather take the distance/e-learning programme offered by KL private instituition. only need to go back to sit for certain exam few times a year.
i've been to singapore as a backpacker. fully understand how the transportation there works after my first day there. compare to KL.... i'm still lost driving my car around KL after 2 years here. |
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Jan 5 2007, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(littleway @ Jan 5 2007, 12:44 AM) Although SG more expensive, but nevermind... at least quality is better than any institute in JB can provide. If got company sponsor for study like my uncles company... that would be sOoOOOoOOOo nice.... OMG... when I can have this chance.. the atmosphere also plays a part. in sg u can see ppl reading & studying everywhere. in JB u go study in McD will kena "azapkor" only..... |
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Jan 5 2007, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(ky_khor @ Jan 5 2007, 01:00 AM) yeah unless they sponsored u. else i would rather take the distance/e-learning programme offered by KL private instituition. only need to go back to sit for certain exam few times a year. yup.... other than S$, public transport & safety are "attractive" factors also.i've been to singapore as a backpacker. fully understand how the transportation there works after my first day there. compare to KL.... i'm still lost driving my car around KL after 2 years here. public transport can bring u anywhere of the island (take times ofcoz), and u dont have to scare kena rompak when u come back late at night. |
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Jan 5 2007, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 5 2007, 12:57 AM) that should be the way lah. should try to settle down 1st. right now plan this plan that worry this worry that, what if end up u cant get used to the life in sg how? not really more expensive, they have grants. gov give out alot grants. Me, i studied in one of the college in kl.. course fee 50k+... my brother doing same course in singapore, finishing soon, after convert back to RM.. less than 20K. So it all depends where u study or what course.ofcoz it's more expensive since u r paying SGD, but the learning environment and the atmosphere here is more vibrant than JB (i am from JB, dont know KL tho). govt and most of the employers encourage this as well. for the distant learning part, can do also. but u must be discipline, and need to work harder. another risk is not sure whether your distant learning prog is recognised here. btw i knew another colleague (an engineer, diff dept, Msian also) has taken distant learning from Unitar few years back, somemore is company sponsored. anyway, life here isnt that bad, u feel safer, less stress compare to KL, everything is convenient, mrt bus.. oNly one thing to complain.. food here.. other than that.. wverythings good. |
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Jan 5 2007, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(singleguy @ Jan 5 2007, 01:10 AM) not really more expensive, they have grants. gov give out alot grants. Me, i studied in one of the college in kl.. course fee 50k+... my brother doing same course in singapore, finishing soon, after convert back to RM.. less than 20K. So it all depends where u study or what course. u brother must be in local U or Poly, right? |
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Jan 5 2007, 01:22 AM
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Noobie here. Is it difficult for graduates in mechanical engineering from university science Malaysia to ge a job in Singapore..i worked before with the local Singapore company around two months as production worker.Izzit its will help me to getting a job there easier..??what is the average price for a Malaysia's fresh graduates from mechanical field...
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Jan 5 2007, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(singleguy @ Jan 5 2007, 01:10 AM) oNly one thing to complain.. food here.. lol i'm imuned from all of the above. but i would like to have a cheap futsal court or swimming pool or gym. |
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Jan 5 2007, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(matsuolee @ Jan 5 2007, 01:22 AM) Noobie here. Is it difficult for graduates in mechanical engineering from university science Malaysia to ge a job in Singapore..i worked before with the local Singapore company around two months as production worker.Izzit its will help me to getting a job there easier..??what is the average price for a Malaysia's fresh graduates from mechanical field... now the market is good. if want to get a job here, better act quick. difficult or not? my advice is "never try never know".someone can help me ..???Thanks i dont think the experience will help. last time back in 2001 when i was taking my attachment in a mfg co (semicon industry), they offered fresh grad from UTM S$2.5k i would say it should be ard S$2k+, but maybe not all companies accept your cert. you have to try you luck. |
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 4 2007, 06:56 PM) Yeah, I heard whole island have free wireless. What is the speed ah ? 512Kbps lo.....I haven't try yet because me now using the Starhub 12Mbps internet. well, in m'sia u have to pay rm66 for this...here get free...so no complain lo... else u can pay around S$10 for 1Mbps |
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Jan 5 2007, 03:11 PM
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I worked, got my part time degree, bought a hse, married at Spore...
Now I back to KL... and realize I have hard time to adapt the life here, as had been in comfort zone for too long. So my advise is if u only out to Spore to dig gold, do not stay too long. Otherwise u'll feel lost and depress when u back here. |
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Jan 5 2007, 03:48 PM
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er...OFF TOPIC a bit...about the education...everywhere is the same... unless u'r PR or citizen if that country..ur education wil be cheaper...if u'r foreigner..then its expensive....happens in malaysia also...i asked some foreigner in my university..they pay 30k per year (if not mistaken) but i pay 12k per year only.....
anyway...back to topic... fresh grad in electronic engineering majoring in microwave and communication .....but when i search jobdb.com and jobstreet.com..very hard to find a suitable job in singapore...just wonder..with my degree..the starting pay shud be also the same?? around 2.4k?and i think my degree is regconize in singapore...i heard ppl say... anyway..am from mmu tho.. |
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Jan 5 2007, 03:48 PM) er...OFF TOPIC a bit...about the education...everywhere is the same... unless u'r PR or citizen if that country..ur education wil be cheaper...if u'r foreigner..then its expensive....happens in malaysia also...i asked some foreigner in my university..they pay 30k per year (if not mistaken) but i pay 12k per year only..... if u r PR here, government give u -80%. And the rest u can get loan. But u need to sign bond lo....anyway...back to topic... fresh grad in electronic engineering majoring in microwave and communication .....but when i search jobdb.com and jobstreet.com..very hard to find a suitable job in singapore...just wonder..with my degree..the starting pay shud be also the same?? around 2.4k?and i think my degree is regconize in singapore...i heard ppl say... anyway..am from mmu tho.. if foreigner study in mmu...they pay in USD...so much much expensive.... i would suppose enginering fresh grad would have ~2.5k gua...not really sure thou.. ya...mmu degree is recog. here(mine was mmu too |
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Jan 5 2007, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Jan 5 2007, 03:48 PM) er...OFF TOPIC a bit...about the education...everywhere is the same... unless u'r PR or citizen if that country..ur education wil be cheaper...if u'r foreigner..then its expensive....happens in malaysia also...i asked some foreigner in my university..they pay 30k per year (if not mistaken) but i pay 12k per year only..... The market rate for the fresh grad engineer here is $2.4k leh. Just for everyone benefit, what is the fresh grad market rate in Malaysia ? anyway...back to topic... fresh grad in electronic engineering majoring in microwave and communication .....but when i search jobdb.com and jobstreet.com..very hard to find a suitable job in singapore...just wonder..with my degree..the starting pay shud be also the same?? around 2.4k?and i think my degree is regconize in singapore...i heard ppl say... anyway..am from mmu tho.. Hey man, I have ask my Singaporean school mate from your field. They say don't know MMU , they asking me back is that UM. Too bad, they only know University Malaya only. maybe MMU is not well known here. I don't know whether your engineering job need recognition or not by the Professional Engineer Board. You can refer to the Professional Board webpage. http://www.peb.gov.sg/peb/html/pen.html |
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 5 2007, 06:21 PM) The market rate for the fresh grad engineer here is $2.4k leh. Just for everyone benefit, what is the fresh grad market rate in Malaysia ? i'm from mmu, and as far as i know...i have plenty of uni-mate working here without any problem about recognition. All managed to get EP without any problem wif MOM too. So no need to worry....Hey man, I have ask my Singaporean school mate from your field. They say don't know MMU , they asking me back is that UM. Too bad, they only know University Malaya only. maybe MMU is not well known here. I don't know whether your engineering job need recognition or not by the Professional Engineer Board. You can refer to the Professional Board webpage. http://www.peb.gov.sg/peb/html/pen.html btw...i'm refering to engineering & IT students from mmu..... |
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QUOTE(yihyan @ Jan 5 2007, 05:32 PM) if u r PR here, government give u -80%. And the rest u can get loan. But u need to sign bond lo.... Not PR lah....if foreigner study in mmu...they pay in USD...so much much expensive.... i would suppose enginering fresh grad would have ~2.5k gua...not really sure thou.. ya...mmu degree is recog. here(mine was mmu too Everyone accepted to study here will automatic get the 80% Tuition Grant. We no need to pay back the 80% school fees if you work here for 3 years after graduate. Unless you are super rich and reject the 80% free money, then you pay it yourself and have the freedom to back to Malaysia and work. Most of the Malaysian study here will not back to Malaysia and work, the reason they give is that the Malaysia company cannot pay as much as they earn in Singapore. |
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Jan 5 2007, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(yihyan @ Jan 5 2007, 06:29 PM) i'm from mmu, and as far as i know...i have plenty of uni-mate working here without any problem about recognition. All managed to get EP without any problem wif MOM too. So no need to worry.... yeah, good lah.btw...i'm refering to engineering & IT students from mmu..... I don't know much because I not in your field. The job I do need recognition by PE board. |
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 5 2007, 06:30 PM) Not PR lah.... No le...Everyone accepted to study here will automatic get the 80% Tuition Grant. We no need to pay back the 80% school fees if you work here for 3 years after graduate. Unless you are super rich and reject the 80% free money, then you pay it yourself and have the freedom to back to Malaysia and work. Most of the Malaysian study here will not back to Malaysia and work, the reason they give is that the Malaysia company cannot pay as much as they earn in Singapore. if u accept the discount then u need to bond for 3 yrs....and to do this, u need to be a PR. |
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Jan 6 2007, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(yihyan @ Jan 6 2007, 12:39 AM) No le... LOL....if u accept the discount then u need to bond for 3 yrs....and to do this, u need to be a PR. Where you listen from ? You listen from who ? The 80% is alot of money, for an ordinary folk from Malaysia will not able to pay all the 100% school fees on their own. Everyone come here and study will also have the tuition grant and bond. Malaysian need to bond for 3 years meanwhile the China need to bond for 5 years. What I want to say is that the tuition grant is for everyone as long their result is good enough to be accepted by NTU or NUS admission, and not just the PR only can get it leh. Why I know so much ? It is because I not hear from other people, I am gone through it leh. |
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 6 2007, 10:44 AM) LOL.... No u r wrong....Where you listen from ? You listen from who ? The 80% is alot of money, for an ordinary folk from Malaysia will not able to pay all the 100% school fees on their own. Everyone come here and study will also have the tuition grant and bond. Malaysian need to bond for 3 years meanwhile the China need to bond for 5 years. What I want to say is that the tuition grant is for everyone as long their result is good enough to be accepted by NTU or NUS admission, and not just the PR only can get it leh. Why I know so much ? It is because I not hear from other people, I am gone through it leh. they grant the 80% discount + bond not based on whether u are accepted by NTU or NUS or not..... Even if after SPM, and u enter polytechnic/ junior college u will also be given the same privilege. There is no way u can get the tuition grant + bond without being a PR. |
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So far, we're focusing on engineering and IT students, how abt students who take biz, accounts, or hotel mgt. Do they work well there too? Just curious to find out..
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QUOTE(yihyan @ Jan 6 2007, 02:39 PM) No u r wrong.... Hey my friend.they grant the 80% discount + bond not based on whether u are accepted by NTU or NUS or not..... Even if after SPM, and u enter polytechnic/ junior college u will also be given the same privilege. There is no way u can get the tuition grant + bond without being a PR. Have you study in Singapore before or not ? Yeah of course poly student also can get the tuition grant. I never say they cannot. What am I said is that everyone who come to Singapore and study for the tertiary course can get the 80% tuition grant. NO NEED PR TO GET THE TUITION GRANT.... BTW, you graduate from where ? HAVE YOU STUDY IN TERTIARY INSTITUTION HERE BEFORE ? |
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Jan 6 2007, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 6 2007, 03:34 PM) Hey my friend. i have tons of frens studying there....Have you study in Singapore before or not ? Yeah of course poly student also can get the tuition grant. I never say they cannot. What am I said is that everyone who come to Singapore and study for the tertiary course can get the 80% tuition grant. NO NEED PR TO GET THE TUITION GRANT.... BTW, you graduate from where ? HAVE YOU STUDY IN TERTIARY INSTITUTION HERE BEFORE ? of coz everyone can get...but u need to become PR.... is this simple statement so hard to understand? QUOTE What I want to say is that the tuition grant is for everyone as long their result is good enough to be accepted by NTU or NUS admission, and not just the PR only can get it leh. b4 this u said only for those who have good result...and for those who is accepted into NTU/NUS.....now u said yeah yeah poly also can... btw nothing to be proud of even if u study there This post has been edited by yihyan: Jan 6 2007, 03:45 PM |
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QUOTE(yihyan @ Jan 6 2007, 03:43 PM) i have tons of frens studying there.... I just want to say that PR is not the requirement to get the tuition grant. I don't want you to mislead other people. Please ask your friend properly whether PR is a requirement. When you are not the person who gone through it please don't claim it as the hearsay.Btw, the PR is very easy to get. If you study here, even more easier to get PR. Don't make it like so difficult to get and spoil other chance and hope to apply here. I love to encourage people to work and study in Singapore.of coz everyone can get...but u need to become PR.... is this simple statement so hard to understand? b4 this u said only for those who have good result...and for those who is accepted into NTU/NUS..... now u said yeah yeah poly also can... btw nothing to be proud of even if u study there Peace... This post has been edited by eurekas: Jan 6 2007, 04:41 PM |
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Jan 6 2007, 04:10 PM
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I gone through that stage. Last time when I come here to study, they give me tuition grant eventhough I am not PR.
If you still want to argue anymore please read the MOE website for the detail.... http://sam11.moe.gov.sg/tass/menu/index.htm |
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Jan 6 2007, 04:59 PM
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Aiyoo.. no need argue la... Once you got the offer letter from either Poly or Uni, you are automatically eligible to enjoy the grant. Is up to you to believe it... am I make myself clear?
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 6 2007, 04:06 PM) I just want to say that PR is not the requirement to get the tuition grant. I don't want you to mislead other people. Please ask your friend properly whether PR is a requirement. When you are not the person who gone through it please don't claim it as the hearsay.Btw, the PR is very easy to get. If you study here, even more easier to get PR. Don't make it like so difficult to get and spoil other chance and hope to apply here. I love to encourage people to work and study in Singapore. And I really really hope to get a job there... Peace... |
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QUOTE(littleway @ Jan 6 2007, 04:59 PM) Aiyoo.. no need argue la... Once you got the offer letter from either Poly or Uni, you are automatically eligible to enjoy the grant. Is up to you to believe it... am I make myself clear? LOL this is what I said all this while.Someone still want to argue saying how many tons of friends study here... http://sam11.moe.gov.sg/tass/menu/index.htm |
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QUOTE(Jewelgal @ Jan 6 2007, 03:25 PM) So far, we're focusing on engineering and IT students, how abt students who take biz, accounts, or hotel mgt. Do they work well there too? Just curious to find out.. My friend got a degree from Malaysia, then she took the ACCA course from Malaysia after get the degree. Now working in one of the big 4. Her pay is alot leh... More than engineer pay... |
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 6 2007, 06:18 PM) My friend got a degree from Malaysia, then she took the ACCA course from Malaysia after get the degree. Now working in one of the big 4. Her pay is alot leh... More than engineer pay... erm...she got experience in audit? if yes..how many years...or freshie??i dont think freshie will get much more higher than those only ACCA or only degree holder ler.... |
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IT Degree + 2 years part time in IT + 2 years full tine in IT
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Dear eurekas & yihyan
Technically speaking, both of you are correct. U no need to become PR to get the grant. But u have to become a PR to service your 3-years bond after you graduate. |
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QUOTE(pppooo @ Jan 5 2007, 03:11 PM) I worked, got my part time degree, bought a hse, married at Spore... Hey curious hereNow I back to KL... and realize I have hard time to adapt the life here, as had been in comfort zone for too long. So my advise is if u only out to Spore to dig gold, do not stay too long. Otherwise u'll feel lost and depress when u back here. Care to share more? Which part u can't adapt? And what do u mean by comfort zone? |
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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 8 2007, 02:46 PM) Dear eurekas & yihyan Yeah yeah...Technically speaking, both of you are correct. U no need to become PR to get the grant. But u have to become a PR to service your 3-years bond after you graduate. PR is automatically one but also need to go to ICA do some formalities. It is easier to get PR than those who come here and work with employment pass. OT abit, work permit cannot apply for PR in Singapore. If want PR, die die also want the company get S pass for you if cannot get employment pass. |
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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 8 2007, 02:50 PM) Hmm... I see... I will try... I am looking hard in the jobstreets... QUOTE(eurekas @ Jan 8 2007, 04:37 PM) Relax la... |
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Hey curious here
Care to share more? Which part u can't adapt? And what do u mean by comfort zone? [/quote] I must admit I am a lazy person thus Spore does suit me more as she provides comveniency. I can drive but I dun like to drive thus Spore public transport really helps. Eatery places are conveniently within walking distance at both working and residential places without scare of snatch or rains as most linkways are sheltered. Their banks and govt bodies services are so much efficient than KL. The scenario is they have longer q, but definitely shorter waiting/processing time compared to KL...Btw, most of the bank and govt services could be done via phone or internet. I dun need to mention Spore broadband/wireless provider as many has elaborated that...Msia Tmnet is just And...Spore is cheaper than KL in term of dollar to dollar comparison! Spore working life is quite versatile. U get to expose to multinational cultural since most companies there are Asia Pac hub. Many foreigners work there thus equal opputurnity as long as you are outstanding. Nevertheless, Spore does have their boring part. Too small the island and u'll really get bored after many weekends there. The govt is efficient but kinda like Mahathir time - one man say all...but why I care? I am not their citizen. |
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Hi buddy,
I am newbie here and I'm urgently need ur advise to sort out this problem. Recently I am thinking to change my current job to a new working environment as I have lost my passion in my current job as a software enginner in a foriegn bank with 1.5 years experiance. Now I have 2 option, 1. Get a job in MYS or 2. Look for a career in SG. Any one can let me know what is the salary range for a software enginner/programmer/software developer post in SG ? With 2 years experiance. What is the market value for software developer ? I was thinking to work in SG for 3 - 5 years. After that, depends. Thanks for ur advise ~~ This post has been edited by hanalolu: Jan 9 2007, 11:43 PM |
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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 8 2007, 02:46 PM) Dear eurekas & yihyan Would also want to correct this misconception. You do NOT need to become PR to service your 3-yr bond after graduation. The bond is just that you have to work in Singapore for 3 yrs. You can still be under Employment Pass, if you do not want to apply for PR. Technically speaking, both of you are correct. U no need to become PR to get the grant. But u have to become a PR to service your 3-years bond after you graduate. In case someone tries to debate this, I have completed my 3-yr bond, and am still on EP after 6 yrs, since I do NOT have any intention of applying for PR. |
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is it convenient to work in Jurong Island or around Alexandra Distripark area without a personal transport?
those r heavy industry area and i assume the public transport is not as good as commerce area? |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:05 PM
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Jurong Island is at another island. Transport is provided by the company hires you.
Alexandra Distripark is pretty easy to get around with public transport. |
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Jan 11 2007, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(pppooo @ Jan 8 2007, 11:02 PM) I must admit I am a lazy person thus Spore does suit me more as she provides comveniency. thanks for sharing I can drive but I dun like to drive thus Spore public transport really helps. Eatery places are conveniently within walking distance at both working and residential places without scare of snatch or rains as most linkways are sheltered. Their banks and govt bodies services are so much efficient than KL. The scenario is they have longer q, but definitely shorter waiting/processing time compared to KL...Btw, most of the bank and govt services could be done via phone or internet. I dun need to mention Spore broadband/wireless provider as many has elaborated that...Msia Tmnet is just And...Spore is cheaper than KL in term of dollar to dollar comparison! Spore working life is quite versatile. U get to expose to multinational cultural since most companies there are Asia Pac hub. Many foreigners work there thus equal opputurnity as long as you are outstanding. Nevertheless, Spore does have their boring part. Too small the island and u'll really get bored after many weekends there. The govt is efficient but kinda like Mahathir time - one man say all...but why I care? I am not their citizen. This post has been edited by magnumao: Jan 11 2007, 01:04 PM |
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QUOTE(Doltan @ Jan 9 2007, 11:45 PM) Would also want to correct this misconception. You do NOT need to become PR to service your 3-yr bond after graduation. The bond is just that you have to work in Singapore for 3 yrs. You can still be under Employment Pass, if you do not want to apply for PR. okIn case someone tries to debate this, I have completed my 3-yr bond, and am still on EP after 6 yrs, since I do NOT have any intention of applying for PR. will keep that in mind thanks a lot |
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Jan 24 2007, 11:47 PM
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Hello, no more stories from our friends working in singapore.. hehe...
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Jan 25 2007, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(Doltan @ Jan 9 2007, 11:45 PM) Would also want to correct this misconception. You do NOT need to become PR to service your 3-yr bond after graduation. The bond is just that you have to work in Singapore for 3 yrs. You can still be under Employment Pass, if you do not want to apply for PR. PR need to apply meh ?In case someone tries to debate this, I have completed my 3-yr bond, and am still on EP after 6 yrs, since I do NOT have any intention of applying for PR. They never send you a letter meh ? Before you grad from Uni they will send you a letter leh.... |
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Jan 28 2007, 10:01 PM
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i'm wonder how's the pay in SG for 3yrs experience in Java( 2 yrs specially in J2EE) and knowledge in Oracle DB and Oracle Applications.
anyone can tell me?? just wonder anyone with similar experience that working in sg can tell me... i'm just curious whether i can ask for the same salary that i got in RM when i go sg... This post has been edited by kinwah_lai: Jan 29 2007, 09:59 AM |
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Hi, guys.. i think there's 1 thing i need to clarify, as we also work for someone in sg, we rili duno how much can u get with the experiences and pro- knowledges u have.
i think such info can be collected by using jobstreet or jobsdb as they always do some report for the average salary for each year. Or some company will stated the salary they will offer for some position. I think for the people wanna know how much can they get, they can start research from here. |
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Feb 5 2007, 10:40 PM
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i hv 8 month working experian with HP singapore...
now i plan to go back m`sia for good... cannot afford lor.. what do u thing guys??i`m i continue or go back m`sia for good |
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Feb 5 2007, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 11 2007, 01:06 PM) anyone know bout SembawangCorp Marine?izzit some where around jurong island?how the working environment tere ..?Get involved with the company's interview..might be work tere as design engineer/safety engineer soon..Thanks ur all precious comments.. |
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Feb 5 2007, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(d2e_7 @ Feb 5 2007, 10:40 PM) i hv 8 month working experian with HP singapore... I thot HP Spore giving quite good package, still cant feed u?now i plan to go back m`sia for good... cannot afford lor.. what do u thing guys??i`m i continue or go back m`sia for good I have friends working there and they seem satisfied. HP Spore well known of providing extensive training to employees. It is always good to pick up more skills esp if u r still young in work force. Dun go shopping and hi-tea too often, buy clothes from the heartlander shops la. Then u can save. |
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QUOTE(matsuolee @ Feb 5 2007, 11:13 PM) anyone know bout SembawangCorp Marine?izzit some where around jurong island?how the working environment tere ..?Get involved with the company's interview..might be work tere as design engineer/safety engineer soon..Thanks ur all precious comments.. Sembawang Corp is a big company in Singapore, they have offices and factories and plants all around Singapore. I'm only familiar in Sembawang Gas, which is in Jurong Island. Public transport is bad here Jurong Island, but most companies provide transport so you shouldn't worry to much. Marine line should be in the shipping industry then, which is a huge industry in Singapore. I see super tankers everyday when I go to work and I think one of the dry-docks I see is Sembawang Marine, not sure though. But nevertheless, it should be fun on a ship Lots of Malaysian work in the oil and gas industry in Singapore. Some as labourers, blue collar and also white collar jobs. Opportunities are equal in my opinion. No such thing as favoritism unless you work in a family owned company. But work is work, Singaporeans are the 'relaks' one here since they can jump jobs easily, most Malaysians here are hardworking souls with family back home. So the general view of Malaysians by employers are quite good. They don't pay you their employer contribution in CPF if you are not PR so they actually get more value from Malaysians. PRs contribute to CPF 20% of their gross pay and employers contrubute 11% I think of your gross pay. If you think you see a lot of foreign workers in Malaysia, heh! you haven't seen Singapore yet, half the workforce are foreign workers. Going to Orchard road on Sunday feels like you are in the Philipines or some parts Bangladesh. The jam at the causeway back to Johor is downright scary after working hours when Malaysians make their way back home. Best if you net a job in a MNC, more fair and open in my opinion and the progression is better. And regarding HP, they have been voted one of the best employers in Singapore, so I don't think you should be worried if you are hired by them. This post has been edited by kidchung: Feb 6 2007, 03:16 PM |
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This article was in Singapore's Today newspaper this morning. Info about salaries of folks with poly diplomas.
Also a pdf file which contains a current report on Singapore's labour force. Very enlightening as it give good info on the sectors and attributes of workers. There's one page on avg salaries by job type (eg. mgr, professional, clerical etc. etc.) This post has been edited by seantang: Feb 6 2007, 08:23 PM Attached thumbnail(s) Attached File(s)
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Any one know how is the oil and gas industry in Singapore compare to Malaysia? And what is their big player in the industry. Thanks
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Oct 27 2006, 11:53 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by lazy_worm: Feb 10 2007, 10:55 PM |
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Feb 21 2007, 12:26 PM
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So any work in singapore for con artist?
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Feb 21 2007, 06:50 PM
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then better work in china (but not hong kong not shaghai .. not big cities in china)...
One of my friend work in Dung kun (he is six sigma black belt) .. here is the information he give me.. pay is around rm8000 to rm15000... (say production manager/QA/IT/Eegineering) Rental ( rm500 for high class fully finish studio (even equid with 26"LCD)) Transport ( rm150 for the taxi ) Food ( rm150 - rm300 .. depend where he eat.. 1 bow of beef noodles is rm2.50, 3 bottles of local beer [chin tao] is rm10) women he current salary is around rm13000 per months (including allowance) and his package including 1 return ticket to malaysia yearly.. so he claims he can save more than rm8000 per months.. (if he find a proper girl friend.. then he save at lease another rm2000) I have another friend who work in hong kong with salary rm17000... but the rental already cost him rm3500.. just a small apartment .. less than 500sf.. |
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Feb 21 2007, 06:58 PM
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wah .ur fren have any diploma or degree kar??
if no nit diploma or degree ..i aso wango china ...haha |
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Feb 22 2007, 12:48 PM
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May God Bless You,
Just wonderin' is it true that website hosting and design business is dying in Singapore? Because the students spoilt the market with S$ 50.00 per design? Can I confirm this? |
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QUOTE(Muhammad Nur Hanief @ Feb 22 2007, 12:48 PM) May God Bless You, I don't know about that, But I think website business is saturated anywhere becauseJust wonderin' is it true that website hosting and design business is dying in Singapore? Because the students spoilt the market with S$ 50.00 per design? Can I confirm this? - any college student can do it - it's quite an unspecialized skill. Find a niche in website business that is specialized. e.g High-level J2EE, Websphere. Need to be different from others. Find an edge. |
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Feb 22 2007, 06:12 PM
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wanna ask u guys opinion
i'm currently working in kl rm1.8k basic inlcuding my allowances is around 2.8k (car maintenance + petrol+hp) got a job offer from sing paying only sgd 2k (no allowances since no need to travel often) issit worth the switch? the sing job will enable me to gain more exposure n joining the line where i was originally aiming when i grad last year issit worth the switch?? This post has been edited by nicvoo: Feb 22 2007, 06:22 PM |
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Feb 22 2007, 06:12 PM) wanna ask u guys opinion Definitely the SG offer is better i'm currently working in kl rm1.8k basic inlcuding my allowances is around 2.8k (car maintenance + petrol+hp) got a job offer from sing paying only sgd 2k (no allowances since no need to travel often) issit worth the switch? the sing job will enable me to gain more exposure n joining the line where i was originally aiming when i grad last year issit worth the switch?? |
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Wah ! so many good comment.
-U are encourage to work in SG I should say. -But dun spend too much money in SG itself. -Convert the currency and spend when u return home. -If u are looking for a new life, forget it.Small place,not many places to go.I remember my freinds tend to ask each other where to go weekend.Guess what their answer ? If not shopping ,then sentosa island.If shopping, for sure is orchard road.Imagine urself, go to timesquare every weekend exclude other place such as lot 10, Sg.wang,Petaling Street.etc. but just times-square.How do u feel ? -Staying SG is good because feel very peaceful .Not like us here "mat rempit"as example for recently,20 persons with "parang" handam a wrong target (a group with 3 peoples drove a Mitsubishi car). -The con is u cannot use EPF money until u are 55 years old.There is like 24% cut of ur salary. -At first it was fun and full of excitement.However at the end, one might feel homesick.Because still ur homeland is bolehland with all the good freinds,family,family relatives,u will miss them so much.In just a few years u got boring for the life there.So,save the hard earn money by working hard there and make as much as possible for the few years,u will plan to come back to ur homeland. Good luck to those who are going there soon. Welcome back to those who are returning. This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 23 2007, 01:47 AM |
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Feb 22 2007, 06:12 PM) wanna ask u guys opinion How much you can save from SGD 2k ? i'm currently working in kl rm1.8k basic inlcuding my allowances is around 2.8k (car maintenance + petrol+hp) got a job offer from sing paying only sgd 2k (no allowances since no need to travel often) issit worth the switch? the sing job will enable me to gain more exposure n joining the line where i was originally aiming when i grad last year issit worth the switch?? How long do you need to work there before you really get the job you like ? Can you get the job that you like faster by staying in M'sia ? |
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QUOTE(darenohh @ Feb 21 2007, 06:50 PM) then better work in china (but not hong kong not shaghai .. not big cities in china)... Isn't your friend forgetting about the tiny matter of taxation in China?One of my friend work in Dung kun (he is six sigma black belt) .. here is the information he give me.. he current salary is around rm13000 per months (including allowance) and his package including 1 return ticket to malaysia yearly.. so he claims he can save more than rm8000 per months.. (if he find a proper girl friend.. then he save at lease another rm2000) Tax on foreigners is very, very heavy. Unless that RM13,000 is Net Salary after tax... your friend's not going to save RM8000 a month (after paying for a RM2000 gf). In any case, SS BBs in MNCs earn salaries of about S$7000-10000 and that's about RM16,000 to 23,000. More than enough to offset the higher std of living and still come out better. |
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QUOTE(darenohh @ Feb 23 2007, 11:43 AM) Your fellow friend in China is earning so much its because he has got great recognition in his Six Sigma skills, Black belt is the highest one could go for a cert in Six Sigma. I think he deserves to be paid that range as there are not many people who have that title, and companies like General Electrics and Motorola are the ones who prefer hiring ppl with this skills in their QC/Manufacturing plant in order to minimize the defective rates. |
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QUOTE(crystal_kit85 @ Feb 23 2007, 04:58 PM) Your fellow friend in China is earning so much its because he has got great recognition in his Six Sigma skills, Black belt is the highest one could go for a cert in Six Sigma. I think he deserves to be paid that range as there are not many people who have that title, and companies like General Electrics and Motorola are the ones who prefer hiring ppl with this skills in their QC/Manufacturing plant in order to minimize the defective rates. Actually Master BBs and Champions get paid more, much more. |
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QUOTE(Winfeel @ Feb 23 2007, 01:46 AM) Wah ! so many good comment. dude, lets say if i work in sg for 5 years, and then i want to continue working in Malaysia, how about my epf for the past 5 years, can i get it back, or say bye bye?? -U are encourage to work in SG I should say. -But dun spend too much money in SG itself. -Convert the currency and spend when u return home. -If u are looking for a new life, forget it.Small place,not many places to go.I remember my freinds tend to ask each other where to go weekend.Guess what their answer ? If not shopping ,then sentosa island.If shopping, for sure is orchard road.Imagine urself, go to timesquare every weekend exclude other place such as lot 10, Sg.wang,Petaling Street.etc. but just times-square.How do u feel ? -Staying SG is good because feel very peaceful .Not like us here "mat rempit"as example for recently,20 persons with "parang" handam a wrong target (a group with 3 peoples drove a Mitsubishi car). -The con is u cannot use EPF money until u are 55 years old.There is like 24% cut of ur salary. -At first it was fun and full of excitement.However at the end, one might feel homesick.Because still ur homeland is bolehland with all the good freinds,family,family relatives,u will miss them so much.In just a few years u got boring for the life there.So,save the hard earn money by working hard there and make as much as possible for the few years,u will plan to come back to ur homeland. Good luck to those who are going there soon. Welcome back to those who are returning. This post has been edited by rastablank: Feb 24 2007, 01:04 AM |
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QUOTE(rastablank @ Feb 24 2007, 01:02 AM) dude, lets say if i work in sg for 5 years, and then i want to continue working in Malaysia, how about my epf for the past 5 years, can i get it back, or say bye bye?? Only 2 compulsory conditions, u can withdraw the money from Singapore CPF ( Central Provident Fund ) [Malaysia is called EPF]. 1.You have to wait until ur age reach 55 and you are no more going into SG again. 2.When one passed away.The fund can be claimed by his family or family relative but better to write down the beneficiary name first.If not, an original certificate of death is needed. This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 24 2007, 01:34 AM |
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i work in kl but go to singapore to find prostitute....muahahha
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QUOTE(Winfeel @ Feb 24 2007, 01:32 AM) Only 2 compulsory conditions, u can withdraw the money from Singapore CPF ( Central Provident Fund ) thanx for the info [Malaysia is called EPF]. 1.You have to wait until ur age reach 55 and you are no more going into SG again. 2.When one passed away.The fund can be claimed by his family or family relative but better to write down the beneficiary name first.If not, an original certificate of death is needed. |
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QUOTE(Winfeel @ Feb 24 2007, 01:32 AM) Only 2 compulsory conditions, u can withdraw the money from Singapore CPF ( Central Provident Fund ) Only PRs and citizens contribute towards CPF. For foreigners, they can withdraw their CPF if they renounce their PR and leave Singapore permanently. I'm not sure if West Malaysians are still excluded from this.[Malaysia is called EPF]. 1.You have to wait until ur age reach 55 and you are no more going into SG again. 2.When one passed away.The fund can be claimed by his family or family relative but better to write down the beneficiary name first.If not, an original certificate of death is needed. Updated: From: http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Members/Gen-Info/Sch-Svc/S-and-S.htm "You can also withdraw your CPF savings if you leave Singapore and West Malaysia permanently or become permanently incapacitated." Added on February 24, 2007, 2:53 am QUOTE(rastablank @ Feb 24 2007, 02:38 AM) thanx for the info From the same site:2. What type of properties can I buy under the scheme? You can buy residential properties in Singapore that are built on freehold or leasehold land with a remaining lease of at least 30 years. However, the remaining lease must last you up to at least 80 years old. This post has been edited by seantang: Feb 24 2007, 02:53 AM |
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[quote=seantang,Feb 24 2007, 02:43 AM]
Only PRs and citizens contribute towards CPF. For foreigners, they can withdraw their CPF if they renounce their PR and leave Singapore permanently. I'm not sure if West Malaysians are still excluded from this. Updated: From: http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Members/Gen-Info/Sch-Svc/S-and-S.htm "You can also withdraw your CPF savings if you leave Singapore [b]and West Malaysia permanently or become permanently incapacitated."[/B] As highlighted,to be frank with u, not many willing to have such situation happen to them.That means not many is willing to leave Sg (Our neighbour) permanently. Okay, I just looked at my original letter from CPF Singapore.Please read carefully. You are not eligible to withdraw your CPF savings as you do not satisfy ALL the conditions listed below : [1] that you are a Malaysian citizen holding a Malaysian identity card ; [2] that you have left Singapore permanently to reside in West Malaysia; [3] that you are either : (a) 55 years old or above; or (b) below 55 years old but above 50 ,and have not worked in Singapore in the two years before your application; or (C) physically or mentally incapacitated from ever continuing in any employment or is found to be of unsound mind; [4] you do not hold a Singapore work permit. Man, how do satisfy all these requirement ? This post has been edited by Winfeel: Feb 24 2007, 01:32 PM |
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Yup that's the unfair part when it concerns Malaysians.
If you leave Singapore permanently (no PR or work permit), they should return your CPF. I reckon it's unfair they make it a condition that you have to leave Malaysia as well (??? what does this mean, give up Malaysian citizenship?) Why should Malaysians be forced to keep their CPF money in Singapore when they leave Singapore, but other nationalities are not? But it's not all gloom and doom. You can always withdraw your CPF and buy a private condo in Singapore. Over the long term, they'll appreciate like crazy as the island's population grows. And one thing the CPF has over our EPF... the CPF is not running on fumes (cashflow). Unlike the EPF, the CPF has not spent all our money supporting GLCs and funding the govt's cronies and it will not collapse if one day, its cash inflows becomes less than its cash outflows. This post has been edited by seantang: Feb 24 2007, 01:25 PM |
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I would suggest, you guys who want from information about SG working conditions and the so call regulations, please just look up Yahoo.com.sg website and search for SG Gov pages under SG only. There are tonnes of information available on line, even applying passport online and pay lesser, with leaset queue time etc ... so be more diligent, search for it. I can't give any site off hands.. but things like these I hope may help:
MOM - ministry of manpower (formerly minstry of labour) CPF - ww.cpf.gov.sg Iras - can't remember income tax MOE - minstry of education Best thing if you can find a website, can't remember what, where you can fine many of the SG Gov websites there. Any common words you can think of, just search under SG and possible to find what you want to know about SG.. that's my opinion. Imagine this, you can even find individual schools website under MOE website... As for study grants... not true PR only get it, I have students who are studying in Poly getting grants and they are not even PR. only different is, the amount is not the same between Poly & U. You are not really bonded upon completion of the course. You are only requried to remain in SG to work for 3 years, free to choose your company. Not only MYsians, my other colleagues, former students are PR now, but from China. . As for living expense, unless you are a big spender, you don't need to worry about the cost, many MYsian I've known, including those working as shop assistant are coping with the life in SG. Eat at coffeeshop, depending on where you live, you can even find a bowl of prawn noodle or chicken rice for $2.. over at my place, the food court charges $2.50 for fisball noodle. In city centre and Orchard road, the price will be around $4-5, could be $3.50, depending on where. Anyway, if you compare to KL, I definitely think its still cheaper in terms of COST of LIVING. Imagine, earning RM1500 in KL and paying some RM5-6 for a bowl of noodle and that to earning SG$1500 and paying $4-5? Cost of living can be cheaper.. although I won't say very, but at least you can lower your cost of living in SG. I used to shop in KL every year end, and surprisingly, sometimes, I do find MEGA sales items after discount are still more than what I can get in SG. Of course, these are exceptional case. But put it striaght, there are the constant sales from end of May to July (Great SG sales), not forgetting many shopping centres offering sales all year round, especially those at EXPO sales even though its clearing stock.. you still can find good buys. However, not all are clearing stock as I had managed to get some very good buy, much cheaper than the Sheng Siong in SG, well known for its so call CHEAP price for most items. My MYsian friends staying here told me, cost of living is too high in MY, some even buy stuff from SG bring back to JB rahter shop in JB. So don't worry about cost of living, I believe what you need is courage and confidnet to go over |
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Never paid RM5-6 for a bowl of noodles. Your friends are getting cheated. Singapore cheaper than Malaysia? Stop making me laugh. |
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I'm keen to work in S'pore
any spare jobs for me in IT related field my contract going to expire soon... and i'm looking for better job |
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 24 2007, 05:26 PM) Never paid RM5-6 for a bowl of noodles. Your friends are getting cheated. Singapore cheaper than Malaysia? Stop making me laugh. I am working in Singapore and these are what I found so far (Please compare digit to digit because you are earning SGD as well):- Most of the living expenses are cheaper (as others said, you can get 2~3 dollars meal easily; groceries might be 70% of the Malaysia price - RM1.00 vs SGD 0.70; clothings are cheaper even after conversion most of the times - G2000 pants for 20SGD) - Rental is more expensive (1,000 - 1,400 for 3 bedrooms HDB flat) - House/Land properties are most probably more expensive than in Malaysia cities area. - Cars are cheapers (Honda Accord is sold at <80k including COE) - Public transport around $0.66 minimum, maximum up to $1.60? - Broadband, 6.5MBPs plan at $70+ monthly. - Mobile plan, $25.20 for free 160 minutes + 100 SMS. Free IDD to Malaysia (local rate) - Public utilities bills are more expensive, forgot about the tariff. These are about money. But lifestyle wise, I would say very much depends on the personality. This post has been edited by szeping: Feb 24 2007, 09:32 PM |
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Feb 25 2007, 04:17 AM
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work in spore need apply any document ar??
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Feb 25 2007, 10:00 PM
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Whether SG is cheaper than MY, all you need is go over to work and you will see. things is cheap if you convert SG into MY when you shop in MY. Yes, but over the past 5 years shopping in MY Mall.. I am only saying as I can only compare Malls as in SG, e.g Hypermat, carrefour, Giant... You think MY stuff is cheaper? My MY relatives came stay in one of the famous expensive hotel.. his other relative commented SG things VERY EXP and I told him it is not if you stay here, earn $ here and shop here. You will have more buying power as in MY. Guess what happen on the last day before they check out fo the Hotel. It was a last minute thing and because the hotel is connected to a shopping centre, he happened walk into htis shop and found something he paid some RM300 t-shirt in KL. It beats me, what kind of t-shirt that EX .. I am not sure why they want to spend that kind of $.. rich?? My in-law told me, he bought 10pcs of the same t-shirt at $90 only and the quality is better, with more choice, just that he wanted that same piece, same design and colour. Well, you might say, its one of kind of thing.... May be because its branded, you may find it cheaper in SG than in MY, which is true for branded stuff... (generally, market niche and maturity makes alot of different)
I had been comparing prices of the few hypermart in MY against SG mart. I could not compare it with local store. Besides, many items can be cheaper during promotion at the various mart. My comparision was only based on items that I am familiar with. Except for last years, I had hardly buy anything at all since I started shopping in MY several years ago, except for holiday and something which I can't find in SG at that time. Generally, prices are cheaper by ~10-15% could be more depending on supplier. But only if you convert SG into RM, yes... I am not comparing which items is cheaper here. Perhaps you have mistaken my intention. I only said the living cost is more EXP in MY than SG. Certainly, you can define for yourself the living standard in SG as compared to MY... Apology, not mean to put down anyone here. My relatives in Batu Pahat brought me to a coffe shop.. (rather dirty by SG standard) for breakfast during one of the visit when I was back in MY, he told me that bowl of meat noodle was VERY EXP, and I asked why, because it was only RM3. Cheaper compare to SG (7 years ago). Food court (SG) selling $3.00~3.50 (average). He said, foodcourt rental charges average minimum S$5000, Batu Pahat coffeeshop charges RM500, bowl of meat noodle charges RM3 and SG also charges $3, comparing the rental, who is more EXP. SG rental is EXP, that's why charge that price, but in BP, charge same price when rental only RM500. Cost of living is EXP. I had been eating at most the shopping centre except for Jalan Lor just for myself, shopping wise, how could normal Mysian afford with that kind of salary with prices like that. This post has been edited by bbmars: Feb 25 2007, 10:04 PM |
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Feb 26 2007, 09:50 AM
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Feb 26 2007, 10:33 AM
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If you earn S$, then the food in Singapore is still cheaper than if you earn RM and stay in Malaysia. Look at the price of our roti canai, ice chinese tea, chicken rice etc.
Price increase because of petrol price, toll etc. What an excuse, as if majority Malaysian salary got increase. |
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Feb 27 2007, 01:24 PM
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Precisely my point, its the cost of living not which ever is cheaper. Imagine I wa in UK some years ago, everything was EXP to me. BUt after settling down for some months, I realise not everything is EXP over there. I can even find some items cheaper than what I can get in SG, and those items are either from China or India. Imagine a cashier working in their POUNDLAND, our so called $2 shop. You can easily get a pieces of chicken with fries for 1 pound.. Their pound is "BIGGER" in value then our dollar. Many things I can get it at less than 1 or between 2-3pound which is a lot. however, how often do you spend that kind of $$ unless you are big spend and enjoy life so much. Cetainly not for me as I was there to study... where to find so much $ to drop?
but can survivie 400pound/month. with some bit of loose cahs to spare. |
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Feb 28 2007, 05:01 PM
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how much is the apartment rental in sg?
where to find online? Added on February 28, 2007, 6:44 pmhow much is the EE salary range for 3 exp in design?(software n hard) This post has been edited by Humping^Panda: Feb 28 2007, 06:44 PM |
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Feb 28 2007, 10:35 PM
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i'm planning to work in sg soon. just want some opinion from those who have work there....do u guys stay in hometown and make frequent trips for interview? or went there rent a room and job hunting like mad?......what should i do if i wanna go to sg thru jb? i'm from kuching and it is my first time searching for work outside my hometown and a seriously consider going for it if i land a job at sg
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Mar 1 2007, 12:20 AM
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I really suggest looking into the local newspaper for positions in Singapore. If Singapore companies want to hire Malaysians, they will advertise in Malaysia. If you go to Singapore, and register yourself for the job agencies, look at newspaper everyday and such, it is even harder and more expensive. And judging from some of my friends experience when they came to Singapore to look for job. it is not easy or cheap.
Singapore newspapers job recruitment pages always indicate they are only looking for Singaporeans or Singapore PRs. Rarely do I come across a job ad in the Singapore newspaper that say "Malaysians are welcome to apply." So if you really want to work in Singapore, register for yourself in JobsDB, Jobstreet, thestaronline, and etc. and indicate you are looking for positions in Singapore. Check your local newspaper everyday for positions in Singapore, Saturday 'The Star' paper is in my opinion the best. When a company advertises in Malaysia, they are specifically looking for Malaysians and are prepared for you, things like workpermits, S-pass, medical exams (AIDS test), are all considered already when they advertised in Malaysia. Interviews are also normally conducted in Malaysia in major cities, maybe medical exam or sometimes 2nd interview is conducted in Singapore, and if it is a big company, they will re-compensate you for your travels. So far out of 8 people I know that came to Singapore to look for job while staying with me, (minimum 3 days, maximum 1 month), only 1 person found a job. And he quit 2 years later because it was a 'cina-pek' company. So think through your expenses before making a decision. If you 'die die' want to come to Singapore anyway, then it is better if you can stay somewhere for free like a relative's house or a friends place. Makan minum, if possible also if the house you are staying in provide you. If must eat outside everyday, prepare for at least SGD3 per meal. Transportation also must be considered. If friend or relative can fetch you around, even better. |
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Mar 1 2007, 09:07 AM
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i planning to work at spore on april....tell me more pls..i mean working life n the ppl around there
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Mar 1 2007, 09:49 AM
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thanks billycomeback it really helps......a few more question though...
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Mar 1 2007, 10:02 AM
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A social visit pass is valid for 14 days. That's all you need if you're trying to look for a job.
Work permit/S pass/Employment Pass is usually applied by your company on your behalf after you've been offered a job. My advice? Like billy said, try to find a job in SG here, if they're ready to hire Malaysians, they're ready to advertise in local newspaper. |
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Mar 1 2007, 06:18 PM
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Indeed Spore co. advertize at Msia newspapers to recruit but it is bare minimum. Spore newspaper The Strait Times (esp Saturday) advertize more and most of the semicon MNCs hire Malayasian as engineers. Pay more notice to those big firms for eg Seagate, HP, Motorola...or Spore GLC, the ST (Spore Technologies) group companys or Sembcorp etc. They are always recruiting and they are kind of fair in terms of package.
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Mar 1 2007, 08:45 PM
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thanks for the info.....are there any jobs that do not require PR status in Singapore?
can give some info on semicon industries there? are the pay good there?....i'm currently working in a fab environment too |
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Mar 1 2007, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 1 2007, 08:45 PM) thanks for the info.....are there any jobs that do not require PR status in Singapore? There are many that don't require PR status, because to become a PR you would need to work in Singapore first before you are able or qualify to apply for PR status. can give some info on semicon industries there? are the pay good there?....i'm currently working in a fab environment too I'm not sure about semi-con here, but to me past few years, semi-con industries shake a lot. Not sure about pay as well, but if engineer, I'm sure it would be paid well. Take my advice, go to jobstreet , click Malaysia location. Search for engineering key word under Singapore location. Whatever is being advertised on the following pages you get is targeted at Malaysians. Which means, they are recruiting Malaysians. Please look through all the pages for what post you are qualified for and what are the requirements and pay packages offered. So this way you know your market price. Other popular online job agencies are jobsdb.com, a Singapore newspaper is for Singaporeans to read and if I am the advertiser, if I want to reach the majority of Malaysian Engineers, I will advertised in Malaysia newspaper where Malaysian Engineer would have a better chance of seeing the ad. Advertisers are not stupid and blur-sotong. Companies who only advertised in Singapore newspaper to look for Malaysian engineers are either looking for PR already working in Singapore or they don't have a effective HR department which is in my opinion, not worth your time. When I said a company is ready to hire foreigners, it means they are ready to pay for your levy(fees) for work permits/s-pass etc., they are ready to send you for medical check-up in Singapore, they have a HR department that knows how to handle problems with immigration forms and will tell you exactly what to bring for your check-ups and applications. Whenever your permit is due for renewal, they will inform you 1 month before hand, and asks you to get ready all your photos and travel documents. These companies will know what they are doing and will advertise accordingly when they need. If you come to Singapore, simply ask any Tom d*** harry company to hire you and they said "yes! yes!", but don't know how to go around handling your application, wouldn't it be more troublesome for you. Companies are very careful regarding hiring foreigners because they know they will get into trouble if their procedures are suspicious. If the government in Singapore willing to jail a parish Priest for letting people without work-permits to stay in his house, you better realise how serious a message they want to send regarding foreign workers. If you are a foreigner and want to rent a house, you would need a valid work permit. To check in a hotel you need to show your passport. And your passport stamp is valid only for 2 week stay maximum. Sometime, they just give you less like 1 week or sometimes 3 days. This is up to the immigration officer chopping your passport. If your passport empty and new and you first time coming to Singapore, they might question your motives and reasons for visit and blah blah. My first time I had to show my Malaysian IC and driving license to the immigration officer. When I said I am going to start work in Singapore, they ask me for company name, company adress, my adress in Singapore, my contact number and all that. All this is what I experienced and heard from other Malaysians I know. So do your research properly, check job agencies online, and keep looking at Malaysian newspaper. Practice your interview and speaking skills, brush up on your English, learn some cultures and important dates in Singapore like National day and such so you can get ready for conversations and such. Be prepared to be bombarded by nonsense conversation from taxi drivers when they know you are Malaysian (they say they can spot a Malaysian from the way we dress.). Good luck. This post has been edited by billycomeback: Mar 1 2007, 11:32 PM |
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Mar 2 2007, 10:41 AM
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well i don't have a degree......i was thinking more of the normal kind of job like a general worker....it's kinda hard to find jobs like that in jobstreet and jobsdb...are jobs like supermarket cashier or waiter available in abundance?
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Mar 2 2007, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 2 2007, 10:41 AM) well i don't have a degree......i was thinking more of the normal kind of job like a general worker....it's kinda hard to find jobs like that in jobstreet and jobsdb...are jobs like supermarket cashier or waiter available in abundance? yes have alot because this is the job shun by Singaporean. I think you have to come to Singapore and buy the Saturday Strait Times. Saturday paper is super thick and have alot of job advertisement.Btw, you are guy or girl ? In my opinion girl is easier to get job in service sector. Maybe I wrong also. |
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QUOTE(eurekas @ Mar 2 2007, 11:08 AM) yes have alot because this is the job shun by Singaporean. I think you have to come to Singapore and buy the Saturday Strait Times. Saturday paper is super thick and have alot of job advertisement. Both Eurekas and billy are rite in job search method in Spore. Why not u try all their methods.Btw, you are guy or girl ? In my opinion girl is easier to get job in service sector. Maybe I wrong also. Singapore service line is flooded with foreigner...restaurants used to have many Msians and now China Chinese... You could also try your luck in office entry level job for eg recep, coordinator, admin. But please at least ensure you have SPM 5 credits or if better diploma. Otherwise u'll have pblm in applying work permit. |
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i'm a guy....strait times...got it.....another question though....let's just say i am called by a company in sg to come for interview...if i were to enter from jb...should i tell him that i come for "vacation"? or job hunting?....i'm kinda worried about billy line "This is up to the immigration officer chopping your passport. If your passport empty and new and you first time coming to Singapore, they might question your motives and reasons for visit and blah blah. My first time I had to show my Malaysian IC and driving license to the immigration officer. When I said I am going to start work in Singapore, they ask me for company name, company adress, my adress in Singapore, my contact number and all that." i'm a first-timer very sorry to bombard u guys with question
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my fren told me that she only spend 600 sing dolar leh.....
per month is this possible??? |
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 2 2007, 09:29 PM) i'm a guy....strait times...got it.....another question though....let's just say i am called by a company in sg to come for interview...if i were to enter from jb...should i tell him that i come for "vacation"? or job hunting?....i'm kinda worried about billy line "This is up to the immigration officer chopping your passport. If your passport empty and new and you first time coming to Singapore, they might question your motives and reasons for visit and blah blah. My first time I had to show my Malaysian IC and driving license to the immigration officer. When I said I am going to start work in Singapore, they ask me for company name, company adress, my adress in Singapore, my contact number and all that." i'm a first-timer very sorry to bombard u guys with question Just tell the truth. You there just for an interview... and maybe afterwards go shopping in Orchard Road or whatever. It's normal.BUT, if you tell them you're working in Singapore, and if you can't produce a valid work visa to show them, then they'll get very suspicious. Added on March 3, 2007, 2:28 pm QUOTE(vin_ann @ Mar 3 2007, 02:15 PM) Yes it's possible. But have to be on a tight budget. It's usually the case for students, and if they eat mostly in campus where the food prices are subsidized, and outside you can get student discounts for most of everything. This post has been edited by cjtune: Mar 3 2007, 02:28 PM |
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FYI, there is the biggest job fair in SG right now at Suntec city. Every year there will be one immediately after the release of the A level results. If you are available, do drop by to see for yourself.
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Wanna ask where should i look for job in s'pore?
Should i start searching in M'sia The Star Or go down to S'pore and find from s'pore newspaper daily. (considering accomodation not a problem)- stay in friend's house Pls help Thanks |
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Thanks idcs & eurekas : I will do that.
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i just want to noe..if work permit,does the company give u cpf as in here call epf?
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Mar 5 2007, 10:33 AM
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i am degree holder in It but dun have working experience in IT. I think i will apply job in exe admistration.
The main reason i'm goin there is- if only my hubby's interview went smooth.Yeap hubby wanna work in s'pore. So i also follow. This post has been edited by sukkimi: Mar 5 2007, 10:33 AM |
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Mar 5 2007, 10:48 AM
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Do I have to pay some fees if I were to drive into Singapore with my Malaysian registered car?
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Mar 5 2007, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(the_registered @ Mar 5 2007, 10:48 AM) Yes........... weekend is free.Added on March 5, 2007, 12:15 pm QUOTE(guest19 @ Mar 5 2007, 09:08 AM) No...Work Permit, Employment Pass also don't have CPF. Only PR and Singaporean have CPF. CPF good meh ? At the moment it cut my money every month leh, maybe in the future I will be more happy when get back the money. This post has been edited by eurekas: Mar 5 2007, 12:15 PM |
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QUOTE(the_registered @ Mar 5 2007, 06:12 PM) SGD 20 if I'm not mistaken. Motorcycle is SGD 4.Check here for details. Land Transport Authority of Singapore. Added on March 5, 2007, 7:27 pm QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 2 2007, 09:29 PM) i'm a guy....strait times...got it.....another question though....let's just say i am called by a company in sg to come for interview...if i were to enter from jb...should i tell him that i come for "vacation"? or job hunting?....i'm kinda worried about billy line "This is up to the immigration officer chopping your passport. If your passport empty and new and you first time coming to Singapore, they might question your motives and reasons for visit and blah blah. My first time I had to show my Malaysian IC and driving license to the immigration officer. When I said I am going to start work in Singapore, they ask me for company name, company adress, my adress in Singapore, my contact number and all that." i'm a first-timer very sorry to bombard u guys with question Be honest. And if they ask for which company or address, just give it to them so they know you are legit. If you try to lie and your face show, they will question you some more. There is no problem if you are honest, they are just trying to weed out trouble. If you don't have any interview and planning to go there to buy newspaper and find a job, just tell them the truth. It is much easier because I'm worried that if you tried to lie and you cannot make a straight face while lying, they might get suspicious of you and ask you more questions to probe you. Trust me, those immigration officers are trained for this and you are not. This post has been edited by billycomeback: Mar 5 2007, 07:30 PM |
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There's this telecommunication company at SG, M1, which advertised in The Star paper last saturday. I wonder if anyone who work there can advise or give some info regarding this company. And also how much is rental of one room over at SG?
Really wanna try out this job as customer service, but dunno how's life over at Singapore. Anyone who saw this ad n interested in it? |
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any "pantang" that i should know about before i go sg? how about taxation and stuff?....though i can find the info from the net but a person view suits me well
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QUOTE(sukkimi @ Mar 5 2007, 10:33 AM) i am degree holder in It but dun have working experience in IT. I think i will apply job in exe admistration. Well, competition is very tough. Most jobs(atleast 80%) required you to have atleast 2-3 years of working experience. No harm trying anyway.The main reason i'm goin there is- if only my hubby's interview went smooth.Yeap hubby wanna work in s'pore. So i also follow. |
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I may start working in Singapore mid of April. Which is the best way to do? get a room in Singapore or get an apartment in JB and use public transport to work? Put into consideration how much money do u save by renting in JB and is it stressful to do that everyday.
Another question, where do i look for room renting advertisement in Spore? i googled but it seems that it is more towards condos or apt which costs $1500. Renting rooms would be sharing with others right? or is it like japan where 1 room has everything? |
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 7 2007, 09:27 AM) any "pantang" that i should know about before i go sg? how about taxation and stuff?....though i can find the info from the net but a person view suits me well As long as u work > 180 days in a day in Spore, the income tax payable would be "normal"...and trust me, it is lower than Msia. Otherwise, it is higher. U may refer to www.iras.gov.sg for details.Only PR needs to contribute CPF. For west Msian, u can oni withdrawn your cpf after 55 years old or u sumpah will never work in Spore in your entire life. Other Misc: - dun try to bring > 1 pack cigaratte pass the Spore custom. U'll get fined or high taxed for that. - dun corrupt the cop there - If u r driving, no speeding no red lights crossing no jump q. Mobile speed track and camera is everywhere. |
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QUOTE(billycomeback @ Mar 5 2007, 07:19 PM) SGD 20 if I'm not mistaken. Motorcycle is SGD 4. hiyoo, in your white card (arrival visa cards) on the Purpose Of Entry colum Check here for details. Land Transport Authority of Singapore. Added on March 5, 2007, 7:27 pm Be honest. And if they ask for which company or address, just give it to them so they know you are legit. If you try to lie and your face show, they will question you some more. There is no problem if you are honest, they are just trying to weed out trouble. If you don't have any interview and planning to go there to buy newspaper and find a job, just tell them the truth. It is much easier because I'm worried that if you tried to lie and you cannot make a straight face while lying, they might get suspicious of you and ask you more questions to probe you. Trust me, those immigration officers are trained for this and you are not. just tick Visit Friends/Relatives or if you really don't have relatives/friends then just tick the Holiday box, they (immigration officers) hardly ask you anything about it as long as you don't bring prohibited goods into singapore eq. cigarettes, DVD, CDs' etc you're good to go |
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QUOTE(4everlove @ Mar 5 2007, 09:33 PM) There's this telecommunication company at SG, M1, which advertised in The Star paper last saturday. I wonder if anyone who work there can advise or give some info regarding this company. And also how much is rental of one room over at SG? Spore has 3 telecommunication service providers. M1 is one of them. Really wanna try out this job as customer service, but dunno how's life over at Singapore. Anyone who saw this ad n interested in it? These companies are always recruiting CS cos the turnover rate is very high. U probably will find many Msian there. Think this is a shift work. Pay shall be ard SGD2k. Rental of one room at Sg is SGD200~500 depending on locations/facilities. Those near to MRT more expensive. Spore is safe country but small and can be quite boring. But there are many activities for youngters at their community centres if u willing to open up yourself. Make new friends there and occupy yourself...dun go back hometown every weekends. If u like to read, they have libraries at most of the bigger residential areas. Registered yourself with a minimal amount and u can borrow books there. Added on March 8, 2007, 12:41 am QUOTE(pikaphebat @ Mar 7 2007, 07:27 PM) I may start working in Singapore mid of April. Which is the best way to do? get a room in Singapore or get an apartment in JB and use public transport to work? Put into consideration how much money do u save by renting in JB and is it stressful to do that everyday. It all depends. If your Spore working place is near to the checkpoint for eg Woodlands, Marsilings etc... no pblm to commute from JB everyday. I guess many Msia transporters have the commute service from JB ~ Spore daily. But be prepared for the routine tired journey and u would sacrifice some of the life style for eg u cant go dinner/shopping after works with colleagues. Life could be quite monotomous.Another question, where do i look for room renting advertisement in Spore? i googled but it seems that it is more towards condos or apt which costs $1500. Renting rooms would be sharing with others right? or is it like japan where 1 room has everything? U may check the Spore newspaper for room rent. It shd be SGD200~SGD500/room. Better location more ex. U can opt not to share with others but gotta pay higher lor. Furnished or not also depends. But Spore Ikea quite reasonable price, just go grab few cheap piece to done up your room if it is empty. Won't cost u so much. This post has been edited by pppooo: Mar 8 2007, 12:41 AM |
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if you work for cash...$$ is good for you.
if you work and meet some female,... so is very bad for you....and bad for your career... ############ just like the indonesian worker at m'sia,never have a good life if you found a bad BOSS! This post has been edited by lighching: Mar 8 2007, 02:12 PM |
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Mar 8 2007, 02:38 PM
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Is the employee needs to pay for the working permit/S pass? Or the company sponsor without deducting the salary?
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QUOTE(hooi_man @ Mar 8 2007, 02:38 PM) Is the employee needs to pay for the working permit/S pass? Or the company sponsor without deducting the salary? I think the company will pay for you.The only thing I know that the company will deduct from the salary is the CPF. I am not very sure also because I become PR after grad. Added on March 8, 2007, 3:34 pm QUOTE(lighching @ Mar 8 2007, 02:09 PM) if you work for cash...$$ is good for you. hahaha....if you work and meet some female,... so is very bad for you....and bad for your career... ############ just like the indonesian worker at m'sia,never have a good life if you found a bad BOSS! your office have alot of girls ? This post has been edited by eurekas: Mar 8 2007, 03:34 PM |
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I think the company will pay for you. The only thing I know that the company will deduct from the salary is the CPF. I am not very sure also because I become PR after grad. Added on March 8, 2007, 3:34 pm Well, my friend(a Burmese) applied job in Singapore, but have to pay $3000.00 for the S Pass. He mentioned to me that the company din't pay for him. Just want to know is there a rules to pay $3000 for foreigner? |
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Mar 8 2007, 09:40 PM
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a fren in sg recently told me that i can find a job thru an agent in sg.....if my application for the job is succesful....the company will pay the agent....is it normal? do i need to pay money to the agent? is there a "catch"?
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Mar 8 2007, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(hooi_man @ Mar 8 2007, 04:19 PM) Well, my friend(a Burmese) applied job in Singapore, but have to pay $3000.00 for the S Pass. He mentioned to me that the company din't pay for him. Just want to know is there a rules to pay $3000 for foreigner? you sure or not ?never heard b4 leh.. Added on March 8, 2007, 9:59 pm QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 8 2007, 09:40 PM) a fren in sg recently told me that i can find a job thru an agent in sg.....if my application for the job is succesful....the company will pay the agent....is it normal? do i need to pay money to the agent? is there a "catch"? If can find the job directly to the company you want to work for.If gone through agent, the agent will deduct some money from your salary. This post has been edited by eurekas: Mar 8 2007, 09:59 PM |
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Mar 8 2007, 10:25 PM
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i never heard i need to paid for the employment pass to work in singapore.. i got cousin that working in singapore, they never mention about this..
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Mar 8 2007, 10:41 PM
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Most resonable companies in Spore will pay the work permit/S pass application fee. But everywhere has rotten egg comapnies...so if the company ask u to pay for the fee, easy, dun take the job. They wont be reasonable for the package too.
Spore has many so called "agents" trying to bring in foreign workers to work in Spore...esp in construction and labour intensive sector. They claim they can secure job and guaranteed work permit/S pass for the foreigners thus ask them (usually Burmase, Chinese, Indonesian, Thai) for $$. But beware, in spore, no one can pre-guarantee work permit/S pass would be issued to u. Only Immigration and checkpoints authority (ICA) has the final say. Also employment agents at Spore will charge employer, not employee. |
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Mar 10 2007, 03:23 AM
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just wanna ask. Anyone is working at Emerio? How is it like? I may start working there soon.
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Mar 10 2007, 08:21 AM
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ic....just wanna know ...let's just say i settle down in sg already....what do i hae to do yearly? like paying tax and government obligations ?
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Mar 10 2007, 09:30 AM
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Even tho your earing in SIN$$$, cost of living is high too. many Singaporean come to M'sia to shops..things are expensive there.
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Mar 10 2007, 07:37 PM
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i dont think the living cost is high over there.. compare this, if you have rm 2000 and SGD 2000, which would be better? i am sure if you get SGD 2000 u can have more purchase power.
i've lived in japan for 5 years before, and they say the living cost is high over there.. but each month i get to buy something cool such as ipod. in Malaysia, if you want to buy ipod, u have to save up maybe up to 3 month.. personally i feel that living in Malaysia is much more expensive. |
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if you go through agents, definitely they will charge you a fee , this including Singaporeans.
How tight do you think you want to spend for daily allowances will very much depend on you. I have Malaysian friends earning 1.5K having no problems renting a room by himself. Rent a room from HDB flat, no cooking (mostly). Of course share toilet with owner ~$350, not too bad. Unless you are working in business district area, inside shopping mall or Orchard road, things will be more expensive. Places where SGtel, M1 & Starhub operate, you will have to pay hihger prices for food and necessity. Or like someone else mentioned, cross over to JB to shop over the weekend to lower you cost. It is ONLY CHEAPER in JB simply because of exchange rate of ~2.3x. but the cost of living is not necessary higher than MY as I had mentioned in my earlier post. In some some cases, certain things are in fact more costly in MY than SG ... I wonder why... Anyway, so many Malaysians had survived working in SG, don't really see a problem. If you ask me, as a Singaporean how to survive on $600/mth, I say no problem, I could possible have some surplus left ...why I so so? Because I experience it.. I am only talking about living within means with essentials and a little be extra This post has been edited by bbmars: Mar 11 2007, 01:15 AM |
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 10 2007, 08:21 AM) ic....just wanna know ...let's just say i settle down in sg already....what do i hae to do yearly? like paying tax and government obligations ? hoho...just relax and enjoy...and exchange little SGD to much more RM for your parents.Seriously, i had been in Spore many years, first few years earned too little and took part time course there (got tax rebate), no need to pay income tax. And besides income tax, I dun remember any other "obligations"... |
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Depend on which field u like to work rite? if u work as promoter ler.... sure deal wth all leng lui n leng cai..if u work as engineer, need to face different and more new things to expose lor..... if u work as tauke, then.... wat u think ler...
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Mar 11 2007, 12:19 PM
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is sg safe in ur opinion?
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Mar 11 2007, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(bbmars @ Mar 11 2007, 01:12 AM) But then how come I din pay the agent after i gotta job thru them? I'll say it depends lar. Most established agency only charge to employer.And the living cost things...aiya, those who actually working and living in Spore will know the truth. Of cos "our" (yes, I was one of them, but I come back Msia liao) purchasing power when earning SGD is much higher. Those has wrong perception usually passer-by who "heard" from someone... I would say the only few more expensive items in Spore are property, cigaratte, buatan Msia barang barang. Dove shower gel: in Spore => +/-SGD10, Msia => +/-RM20 Kopi: in Spore => +/- SGD0.80 (at kopitiam), Msia => +/- RM1.30 (at mamak) Colgate: in Spore => +/- SGD3.00, Msia => +/- RM5.00 Nokia N73: in Spore => +/- SGD600 (no contract), Msia => +/- RM1300? LCD 32": in Spore => SGD2000, Msia => RM4000? So, earning RM2000 and SGD2000 any different? Of cos! Added on March 11, 2007, 12:27 pm QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 11 2007, 12:19 PM) I walk from mrt station to my Spore home at midnite, never worry of snatch of other crimes. But of cos that doesn't mean no crime rate. But they are just low crime rate. This post has been edited by pppooo: Mar 11 2007, 12:27 PM |
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QUOTE(pikaphebat @ Mar 10 2007, 07:37 PM) i dont think the living cost is high over there.. compare this, if you have rm 2000 and SGD 2000, which would be better? i am sure if you get SGD 2000 u can have more purchase power. yaaah agreed...... me also had the expriences living abroad ...i've lived in japan for 5 years before, and they say the living cost is high over there.. but each month i get to buy something cool such as ipod. in Malaysia, if you want to buy ipod, u have to save up maybe up to 3 month.. personally i feel that living in Malaysia is much more expensive. giving the fact value dollar to dollar ... Malaysia can be expensive in some way ... but the good thing is that ... local malaysia have the "choice" so one need to balance the value of $$$ ... eg : in SG /// to survive you need a basic SG 1500.00 pr month... In JP = US 3000.00 IN TW = NT 15000.00 in HK = HKG 8000.00 in UK = UK 900.00 pound and now in local scene of Kuala Lumpur ... one may need the basic of RM1000.00 ... |
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how about PR in sg....is it easy to get?....i got a diploma in IT.....some fren say easy while some fren say very hard...which is true?
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Really depends on what you are looking at as far as living in SG is concerned. I lived in UK before and initially found everything very EXPENSIVE. However every weekend I went travelling around and get a feel of local life style and theier lower incomce group of people, where they shop, eat, etc.... In fact, I was surprised, I can even paid for things I find more expensive in SG even though the items were made in Chana. If earn your local $$, you will find the difference. My MY classmate is working here to pay his MY bank study loan. Settled down and work as a police inspector in SG... he is from Malaka.. he told me he had seen such advertismend in their local news paper.
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Cost of Living is the amount of money it costs just to live in a certain place. It includes food, housing, etc.
singaporean says sg exp , jb cheap because of the currency exchange rate. like my frenz takes SGD1000 back to hometown during CNY... by the way .... 1 question about transfer money ... let says i want to transfer RM500 everymonth for my car installment from SG, any charges for each transaction??? i bet there are maybank in sg right? |
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 11 2007, 10:01 PM) how about PR in sg....is it easy to get?....i got a diploma in IT.....some fren say easy while some fren say very hard...which is true? It shd be easy if your diploma is recognized in Spore.Added on March 12, 2007, 12:34 pm QUOTE(kinwah_lai @ Mar 12 2007, 01:14 AM) Cost of Living is the amount of money it costs just to live in a certain place. It includes food, housing, etc. Can. Go chk out at www.maybank2u.com.sgsingaporean says sg exp , jb cheap because of the currency exchange rate. like my frenz takes SGD1000 back to hometown during CNY... by the way .... 1 question about transfer money ... let says i want to transfer RM500 everymonth for my car installment from SG, any charges for each transaction??? i bet there are maybank in sg right? This post has been edited by pppooo: Mar 12 2007, 12:34 PM |
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Mar 12 2007, 08:53 PM
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Mar 12 2007, 10:36 PM
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how bout net access in sg?...is it good?....can torrent?
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Mar 12 2007, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 12 2007, 10:36 PM) better than Malaysia alot of times....here got 100mbps, u say can torrent or not ? sooner Singapore is become wireless nation. anywhere also can access already. now they are having trial run, Wireless@SG http://home.singtel.com/wirelessSG/wsg_reg1.htm if you don't want to wait , then u can sign up the M1 and online everywhere u want. Added on March 12, 2007, 11:23 pm QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 11 2007, 10:01 PM) how about PR in sg....is it easy to get?....i got a diploma in IT.....some fren say easy while some fren say very hard...which is true? very easy to get leh...got problem to get PR meh ? This post has been edited by eurekas: Mar 12 2007, 11:23 PM |
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Mar 13 2007, 10:35 PM
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i have found my dream country to live in after japan....
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Mar 13 2007, 10:46 PM
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How bout workign in singapore with a family? Since housing is so expensive, it should be more expensive than malaysia right? I mean babysitter, a nice 1200sf condo and all would probably cost a bomb. Somemore with baby and all I'm pretty sure you need a car as well. I notice most of you are calculating based on a single working person and not family.
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Sg saturday Straits time have 285 pages and only cost 80 cent. Imagine how big is the volume of it.
I try looking job in singapore too. Still hunting... |
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Singapore is the best earn $$$ place for malaysian... Ask u, got any country can got other country earn $ so easy? and the currency is good?.... that's why i say good....
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Mar 14 2007, 11:41 PM
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really can torrent?
i heard there are ppls got caught for torrent. |
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 13 2007, 10:35 PM) i have found my dream country to live in after japan.... But in Spore gotta work hard/smart. Scrap the idea of getting easy and relax job with good pay.Added on March 15, 2007, 12:09 am QUOTE(PowerDunk @ Mar 13 2007, 10:46 PM) How bout workign in singapore with a family? Since housing is so expensive, it should be more expensive than malaysia right? I mean babysitter, a nice 1200sf condo and all would probably cost a bomb. Somemore with baby and all I'm pretty sure you need a car as well. I notice most of you are calculating based on a single working person and not family. Spore is quite pro family if u r the citizen or PR. Condo at Spore cost from SGD1000~SGD5000, depending on locations. But why condo? Spore is quite safe, u dun need a guarded area. Their HDB flat is quite compatible to above average class condo in Msia without facilities, but they are cheaper at approx SGD1000 for 1200 sqf. Their public transport system is very convenient, u could easily move around with baby. Even u want to get a car, I personally feel that most people can affort the monthly installment. The killing part are on those ERP, CBD area charges and parking fee. Basically every housing area will have few child care centres for babysitting and kids. U will enjoy rebete if you r citizen or PR. I especially like their libraries that located at most big housing area. They have exclusive children section and open for borrowing of up to 4 books/card with one time off member fee at SGD10 or 20 only. Finally, most Sporean could live comfortably with combine household income of SGD5000. I dun believe Msia could achieve that. Added on March 15, 2007, 12:15 am QUOTE(kinwah_lai @ Mar 14 2007, 11:41 PM) The fellow got caught bcos he torrent and distribute to hundreds of people.If u torrent for your own, shoudn't have pblm. But be careful do not "tag along" with other's wireless account even if the stupid owner din lock it up. It is an offence in Spore and there have been 2 cases reported. This post has been edited by pppooo: Mar 15 2007, 12:15 AM |
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Mar 15 2007, 11:14 AM
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are Singaporeans fashion?.....what are their view on non-beautiful people? i'm not good looking but i just wanna know their mentality.
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 15 2007, 11:14 AM) are Singaporeans fashion?.....what are their view on non-beautiful people? i'm not good looking but i just wanna know their mentality. Shouldn't everywhere the same? It depends on interviewer. My ex-boss mentioned he hires base on his six sense... But i guess a tidy person will gain more points during first meet. |
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are singaporeans generally friendly or it real depends on person?....if possible can u list out the district in sg?.....example....ginza is tokyo high class district...
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Mar 15 2007, 08:06 PM) are singaporeans generally friendly or it real depends on person?....if possible can u list out the district in sg?.....example....ginza is tokyo high class district... no, generally Sporean is not friendly or u could say it depends on individual. For stranger, Msian is definitely more friendly. Since u r so interested to work at Spore, why not go to www.sg or www.visitsingapore.com.sg to take a glance on the info rather than ask the forumers who usually gv general comments. |
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Alternative way to cut the living expenses working in sg, maybe you can rent a house or room in jb? But that's only if you don't mind traveling between sg and jb everday, wake up early arrive home late, traffic jam etc.. But many malaysian survived in this way too, what you think?
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Mar 18 2007, 02:59 PM
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staying at JB really can save alot???
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QUOTE(dda550 @ Mar 16 2007, 07:13 PM) Alternative way to cut the living expenses working in sg, maybe you can rent a house or room in jb? But that's only if you don't mind traveling between sg and jb everday, wake up early arrive home late, traffic jam etc.. But many malaysian survived in this way too, what you think? If you're not willing to travel dwn to JB often, u can stay somewhere at the northern part of Singapore. Many Singaporeans prfer to travel dwn to JB to buy their daily expenses because it's cheap. Due to this, Singapore local shop is losing. Thus, the northern part of Singapore reduces their price to attract locals to buy their staff at Singapore instead of travelling down to JB. |
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chobi nice at singapore
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How about jobs like research officer/ assistant, laboratory officer in the field of Life Sciences in Singapore? Demanding?
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Mar 20 2007, 05:48 PM
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Calling all brothers and sisters with accounting background.
If you want to land a job in Sg, please do it fast. We need you urgently!! According to newspapers, there are 20,000 accounting and finance vacancies available here. Flip through Saturday's Recruit, around half of it is finance related. It used to be manufacturing..... Real life examples: My sister's employer (SGX listed, STI component), put up recruitment for more than a week, received only 7 applications. My employer (German MNC), wanted to hire finance staff for more than a month, today kena aeroplane. One shortlisted candidate supposed to come down and sign the offer letter, but she MIA..... There are a lot more examples, lazy to write all out.......... Added on March 20, 2007, 5:52 pm QUOTE(kinwah_lai @ Mar 18 2007, 02:59 PM) Most of the savings come from rental.In sg, S$300 give u a room. In JB, S$300 give u a house. This post has been edited by magnumao: Mar 20 2007, 05:52 PM |
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I wanna ask.
Would you prefer to travel to sg from johor or stay in sg? |
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QUOTE(zenix @ Mar 22 2007, 03:44 PM) Definitelty stay in SG. Because, if you see the jam everyday at the 2 causeway during peak hours, you will pengsan. It's normal for people who stay in JB to come to SG 2-3 hours earlier to escape the jam and have a short nap at their working place. So if they work at 8AM, most will leave their house in JB at 5AM to avoid the 6AM jam and reach their company around 6.30AM and sleep until 8AM. When they go back, it's the same thing, the finish work at SG at 5PM and reach home in JB at about 6.30-7PM. Have dinner and watch TV until 10PM and then sleep again for the next day. This is what I hear from the Malaysians workers at my place using bikes to commute everyday.Now imagine if you had to do that everyday for work. Last I heard there is about few hundred thousand Malaysians working in SG, about half commute everyday through the causeway, and there is only 2 causeway going in, and limited to 2 roads each. I've seen the worst jams of motorcycles at the causeway, its something that will numb most motorist. |
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What about IT jobs at SG? A lot of jobs also?
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I wanna ask wat is the best recruitment website for sg?
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QUOTE(billycomeback @ Mar 22 2007, 03:57 PM) Definitelty stay in SG. Because, if you see the jam everyday at the 2 causeway during peak hours, you will pengsan. It's normal for people who stay in JB to come to SG 2-3 hours earlier to escape the jam and have a short nap at their working place. So if they work at 8AM, most will leave their house in JB at 5AM to avoid the 6AM jam and reach their company around 6.30AM and sleep until 8AM. When they go back, it's the same thing, the finish work at SG at 5PM and reach home in JB at about 6.30-7PM. Have dinner and watch TV until 10PM and then sleep again for the next day. This is what I hear from the Malaysians workers at my place using bikes to commute everyday. this is not a problem if u drive to work from jb to sg Now imagine if you had to do that everyday for work. Last I heard there is about few hundred thousand Malaysians working in SG, about half commute everyday through the causeway, and there is only 2 causeway going in, and limited to 2 roads each. I've seen the worst jams of motorcycles at the causeway, its something that will numb most motorist. the traffic is much smooth, no terrible jam. |
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QUOTE(zenix @ Mar 22 2007, 03:44 PM) Depends...if u wanna be a "working machine likable life", u may live at jb. If u chose to "live and work" at Spore, pls rent a room at Spore. Besides rental, all others expenses are quite affortable in Spore. Go buy your household things at ntuc, can be on par with giant at JB after conversion. |
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guys, some job may cant let u stay at JB as well... some ppl's job need OT a lot or most of the time duno when is the exactly offtime (like my job now
sumthin not rili gd to tell u guys that bcoz of the market in sg is gd... then all the rental has been raise up as well.......... so wan find cheaper accommodation then may need sometimes to go through newspaper and etc. |
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generally, you have more buying power earning SG$. Someone said, price of items can be comparable to Gaint in JB after conversion.. but I say, gerenally its slightly higher in SG, although sometimes, it can be cheaper than MY as a whole. Some items are cheaper in SG, but generally its couple of cents or even up to 1 dollar. But do not despair, you can buy more with SG$ as compare to earning in RM... food also quite affordable depending on where you live. Of course, you can't compare prices if you are working and spending in business district and shopping malls. These places usually charge more. I work and live in a heartland HDB flat, so prices in these areas are quite all right, $2-$3 you can get some food for meal.... just some e.g. $2 food items includes Chicken rice (certain place $1, small portion of chicken that's all), fishball noodle soup, laksa, wanton noodle, etc.. $2.5 Prawn noodle (some places $2), hand mande noodle... mixed vegetable rice $2.5-$3 depending otems slected).. just to name some...
Just want to assure Malaysians, should not be any problem. I am a once a year traveller to KL and I can say, there are things you can buy in KL, but there are things I would rather buy in SG. |
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Let say i get 4k ringgit here and singapore offer me 3k singapore dollar, should i go? I am a married man, not sure if my wife can find a good job there, she have no cert.
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QUOTE(tong1774 @ Mar 27 2007, 11:57 PM) Let say i get 4k ringgit here and singapore offer me 3k singapore dollar, should i go? I am a married man, not sure if my wife can find a good job there, she have no cert. If u can survive with RM4k in Msia u can survive with SGD3k in Spore. But just gotta live modestly there.Your wife could have problem even to stay at Spore if no cert. In Spore, foreigner who has no cert = hardly has job. The only way she could stay at Spore with u is u gotta be a Spore PR, and apply her a dependant pass, subject to approval. If u dun want to be PR there, probably u wanna stay at JB with ur wife... Think twice. |
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QUOTE(pppooo @ Mar 28 2007, 01:06 PM) If u can survive with RM4k in Msia u can survive with SGD3k in Spore. But just gotta live modestly there. Thanks for the advise.Your wife could have problem even to stay at Spore if no cert. In Spore, foreigner who has no cert = hardly has job. The only way she could stay at Spore with u is u gotta be a Spore PR, and apply her a dependant pass, subject to approval. If u dun want to be PR there, probably u wanna stay at JB with ur wife... Think twice. |
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QUOTE(pppooo @ Mar 28 2007, 01:06 PM) If u can survive with RM4k in Msia u can survive with SGD3k in Spore. But just gotta live modestly there. Obviously can survive with sg3K. By reducing your living standards, you can easily do that. I just want to know, lets just say he wants to have the same living standard as Malaysia, say a car and a 1100 sf condo (since both of these make up the highest expenses) is it possible to achieve with Sg3K?Your wife could have problem even to stay at Spore if no cert. In Spore, foreigner who has no cert = hardly has job. The only way she could stay at Spore with u is u gotta be a Spore PR, and apply her a dependant pass, subject to approval. If u dun want to be PR there, probably u wanna stay at JB with ur wife... Think twice. This post has been edited by PowerDunk: Mar 29 2007, 10:19 AM |
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QUOTE(PowerDunk @ Mar 29 2007, 10:15 AM) Obviously can survive with sg3K. By reducing your living standards, you can easily do that. I just want to know, lets just say he wants to have the same living standard as Malaysia, say a car and a 1100 sf condo (since both of these make up the highest expenses) is it possible to achieve with Sg3K? I dont think so le, house is darn expensive in singapore, unless u are talking about flat, then may be its possible. |
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Get a contract to work in Singapore before but I rejected due to cannot cook at a rented house.lolx. The salary is SGP1.2K So i think it's the same if I live in KL now, Btw now got a job in KL with RM1.7K. Lucky I'm not in Singapore.
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QUOTE(Blizz-imperialx @ Mar 29 2007, 11:52 AM) Get a contract to work in Singapore before but I rejected due to cannot cook at a rented house.lolx. The salary is SGP1.2K So i think it's the same if I live in KL now, Btw now got a job in KL with RM1.7K. Lucky I'm not in Singapore. Actually life syyle in KL is much more facinating, there are some thing that are hard to find in Singapore due to their gov policy. But overall its a lot safer there. |
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Yup, except I'm sure of their safety, else is sux
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QUOTE(tong1774 @ Mar 29 2007, 11:39 AM) I dont think so le, house is darn expensive in singapore, unless u are talking about flat, then may be its possible. SGD3k with condo and car at Spore? Yes it is hard. Spore is convenience, safe and systematic. If u aim to gain more regional or global working environment, having stable and peaceful family life, Spore shall be a good choice. Otherwise, better stay at bolehland and look for other oppurtunity. |
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QUOTE(pppooo @ Mar 29 2007, 02:18 PM) SGD3k with condo and car at Spore? Yes it is hard. gee.. i kinda like the word "Bolehland"...Spore is convenience, safe and systematic. If u aim to gain more regional or global working environment, having stable and peaceful family life, Spore shall be a good choice. Otherwise, better stay at bolehland and look for other oppurtunity. |
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QUOTE(Blizz-imperialx @ Mar 29 2007, 11:52 AM) Get a contract to work in Singapore before but I rejected due to cannot cook at a rented house.lolx. The salary is SGP1.2K So i think it's the same if I live in KL now, Btw now got a job in KL with RM1.7K. Lucky I'm not in Singapore. Good. since you find a job that you like.Eh.... $1.2k ? What is the contract job ? Poly fresh grad already get $1.6k leh. Added on March 29, 2007, 7:39 pm QUOTE(Blizz-imperialx @ Mar 29 2007, 12:01 PM) you sure or not ????Added on March 29, 2007, 7:44 pm QUOTE(PowerDunk @ Mar 29 2007, 10:15 AM) Obviously can survive with sg3K. By reducing your living standards, you can easily do that. I just want to know, lets just say he wants to have the same living standard as Malaysia, say a car and a 1100 sf condo (since both of these make up the highest expenses) is it possible to achieve with Sg3K? Eh... I am earning $3.8k per month.I also don't dare to buy car. Everyday still taking mrt. I really don't understand how come so many people can afford driving nowadays in Singapore. Maybe my salary is too low to buy a car. I wonder how much they pay for the car installment, fuel and etc. per month. This post has been edited by eurekas: Mar 29 2007, 07:44 PM |
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Mar 29 2007, 10:42 PM
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Eh... I am earning $3.8k per month.
I also don't dare to buy car. Everyday still taking mrt. I really don't understand how come so many people can afford driving nowadays in Singapore. Maybe my salary is too low to buy a car. I wonder how much they pay for the car installment, fuel and etc. per month. [/quote] haha. When I was at Spore, I also earning abt your salary now and I took mrt to work, happily. But i have friends who earn 2.5k own car. It depends how u manage your expenses. Get a cheap car for eg. 1000cc hyundai getz, it's abt 40k include coe. Mthly installment abt 600~700, fuel abt 200~300. Of cos all in sgd. Eat at heartlander kopitiam cost abt 5/meal. Still got spare to shop at orchard during weekends and have occasional restaurant meals. They also live happily. But maybe not much saving so always skip our hi tea gathering. |
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let says u work in KL for 3yrs since u grad, now u got 3k for your salary..got a small kelisa and a little bit enjoy your life now ..
will you still enjoy your life like in KL after you go n work in SG with the same amount of income?? |
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QUOTE(tong1774 @ Mar 27 2007, 11:57 PM) Let say i get 4k ringgit here and singapore offer me 3k singapore dollar, should i go? I am a married man, not sure if my wife can find a good job there, she have no cert. actually if u work in SG and of cz that u r living thr, i think u should stay at KL. it's bcoz tat SG is in a high living standard. if u earn $ and spending, living thr, it wil be almost the same compare to living in Msia.Besides tat, if u r nt PR(Permanent Resident), and u jz offered a job permit, even ur wife go wif u along, she still cannot working thr (tat's SG's rules)!! so better consider carefully. bt hwever if the job has offered u a gd brightly future, y nt to hv a try!!! |
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QUOTE(kinwah_lai @ Mar 29 2007, 11:12 PM) let says u work in KL for 3yrs since u grad, now u got 3k for your salary..got a small kelisa and a little bit enjoy your life now .. Of course lar. You go singapore, income tax + expenses all rugi liao, better have a quite middle lifestyle and more importantly is always with your family and girlfriend/wife and also friends.will you still enjoy your life like in KL after you go n work in SG with the same amount of income?? |
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living in a third world country vs living in a developed country.
the choice is obvious. |
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Mar 30 2007, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Blizz-imperialx @ Mar 30 2007, 12:45 PM) Of course lar. You go singapore, income tax + expenses all rugi liao, better have a quite middle lifestyle and more importantly is always with your family and girlfriend/wife and also friends. If you earn MY3k and SGD3k, i believe u will have better life in singapore because you will have more money to spend |
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If i am working in Singapore, which bank should i choose to save my income?
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Mar 30 2007, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(Blizz-imperialx @ Mar 30 2007, 12:45 PM) Of course lar. You go singapore, income tax + expenses all rugi liao, better have a quite middle lifestyle and more importantly is always with your family and girlfriend/wife and also friends. Singapore has lower effective tax rates than Malaysia.Added on March 30, 2007, 11:10 pm QUOTE(witch @ Mar 30 2007, 09:19 PM) POSH. this is the most common bank in SG. U can get it anywhr!! That's actually POSB (Post Office Savings Bank). And it merged with DBS Bank some years back. So you can open an account with DBS or POSB, it's the same.it oso offer ATM, Deposit, and typing ur book balance mechine. This post has been edited by seantang: Mar 30 2007, 11:10 PM |
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QUOTE(witch @ Mar 30 2007, 09:19 PM) POSH. this is the most common bank in SG. U can get it anywhr!! I think you try to say POSB. it oso offer ATM, Deposit, and typing ur book balance mechine. Most of the company in Singapore bank in the salary to POSB account. If can open another bank, go for OCBC bank. Most of the time, POSB have very long queue. Meanwhile OCBC ATM seldom have very long queue and most of the mrt station also have it. |
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I'm also deciding whether to work in SG or stay behind in AUS. what u guys have to say?
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thanks a lot eveeryone. I guess I'll try OCBC. Hate long queue. |
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QUOTE(nerd nation @ Mar 30 2007, 11:51 PM) I thought most of the people who study in Aus also want to take the Aus PR.Last time some of my friends don't want come back until get their PR approve first. I heard they said, it is easier to get PR when still inside the Aus country. |
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I just start work in sg for 1 weeks. So far so good.
When u come here and go shopping, u realize alot of thing is so cheap compare to KL Must resist yourself to keep spending. This post has been edited by jimmy79: May 22 2007, 02:43 PM |
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sigh...i oso wanna work at singhapore
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May 28 2007, 08:35 AM
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you can work in sg too if you want to.
Just make the initiative to apply job and go interview in sg even it is tiring. |
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May 28 2007, 09:18 AM
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what are the chances of getting a job there?
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May 28 2007, 09:42 AM
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Depends what field but I think is not that difficult to get a job there. M e, my gf and my friends all manage to get job here.
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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ May 21 2007, 02:54 PM) I just start work in sg for 1 weeks. So far so good. It's because of the conversion of the money. When u come here and go shopping, u realize alot of thing is so cheap compare to KL Must resist yourself to keep spending. For example, you paid SG$ 20 for a shirt which sold for RM40. Logically, you would think it's cheaper. With the same amount of salary each month, your purchase power is actually quite high compared to other Malaysians. Well, just remembered that the more you earn the more you need to save. Good luck in PoreLand. |
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hi there..
I m going to work in sg next mid month. Now is in the process of applying the EP. I am a bit worried coz I still have not received any update on the EP status. Without EP I would not able to rent a room there. Is it possible to get a room in SG in last minutes? This post has been edited by mountain: May 30 2007, 11:47 AM |
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May 30 2007, 01:26 PM
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If your EP is already pending approval you will have the FIN number . So you should be able to rent any room. If not you can tell the owner you will give the FIN number once your EP approve, i think should not be a problem
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May 30 2007, 02:48 PM
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it's means that i still can rent a room although the EP is still pending? hmm... actually I am planning to go SG this weekend but I am still consider it since no news on EP... should i go ahead?
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Pending approval = approve before medical checkup. Unless after medical checkup you have AIDS or TB then you will fail.
If you have confidence your EP will approve(normally), you can get a room first. Of course you will lose the deposit u pay if you din get the EP later. |
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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ May 30 2007, 02:52 PM) Pending approval = approve before medical checkup. Unless after medical checkup you have AIDS or TB then you will fail. thanks jimmy79... If you have confidence your EP will approve(normally), you can get a room first. Of course you will lose the deposit u pay if you din get the EP later. Added on May 30, 2007, 2:59 pm QUOTE(amigo @ May 30 2007, 02:52 PM) working as process analyst...looking a room at Teluk Blangah / Tiong Bahru / Redhill / Q'town.. near to my workplace.. u have nay contact? I am a bit worried now... This post has been edited by mountain: May 30 2007, 02:59 PM |
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yup, I am in sg now. Just start working in sg not long ago
All the place you mention is quite hard and expensive to get room . Good luck you can go www.sg-house.com to try get room. Currently is hard to get a room without go through agent. btw, what is process analyst? This post has been edited by jimmy79: May 30 2007, 03:12 PM |
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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ May 30 2007, 03:08 PM) yup, I am in sg now. Just start working in sg not long ago Yeah...Jimmy have 2 meaning in his statement.....u need to find agent to find a room for you...much more convenient..u wouldn't want to end up to find a landlord which is very fierce and love violence...All the place you mention is quite hard and expensive to get room . Good luck you can go www.sg-house.com to try get room. Currently is hard to get a room without go through agent. btw, what is process analyst? anothing is....Jimmy ..u planning to tackle her ar ??? |
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really??
process analyst? the name like so glamour rite... is just sth like mkt admin |
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The place you mention SGD350 will be minimum price for a room without air cond if you are lucky enough because it is quite near to town.
Just go to sg-house.com and www.efair to check out the price. You might be want find place far a bit. dude, I have gf and my gf work in sg as well. haha |
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ok.. thanks for your info jimmy...
btw.. i also have bf liao.. but going to be LDR soon... eric84cool... u think too much already la.. hehe |
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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ May 30 2007, 03:37 PM) The place you mention SGD350 will be minimum price for a room without air cond if you are lucky enough because it is quite near to town. Just go to sg-house.com and www.efair to check out the price. You might be want find place far a bit. dude, I have gf and my gf work in sg as well. haha QUOTE(mountain @ May 30 2007, 03:42 PM) ok.. thanks for your info jimmy... okokok...my mistake ...sorry sorry..... btw.. i also have bf liao.. but going to be LDR soon... eric84cool... u think too much already la.. hehe |
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I work in west coast as IT slave.
I need to help my gf find room around commonwealth, buona vista those area. Then mountain will be my gf competitor for looking room. lol LDR hard to maintain, ask ur bf go sg as well. Mountain, where you from, if you from JB do not have to scare, the worst case travel through kastam everyday |
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who said i m going there alone.. my bf will accompany me..
eric84cool.. r u in SG too? Added on May 30, 2007, 4:03 pm QUOTE(jimmy79 @ May 30 2007, 03:55 PM) I work in west coast as IT slave. since u r looking room as well.. if there is any room nearby the place mentioned.. can u let me know a... I need to help my gf find room around commonwealth, buona vista those area. Then mountain will be my gf competitor for looking room. lol LDR hard to maintain, ask ur bf go sg as well. Mountain, where you from, if you from JB do not have to scare, the worst case travel through kastam everyday i m from KL.. my bf dun have intention to resign fm his current job now... This post has been edited by mountain: May 30 2007, 04:03 PM |
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no worries.. u will find yr lovely gal gal soon...
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So you will come sg and stay in hotel till you get room? I suggest you contact those agent straight( from the forum and newspapre) when you here since you need it so urgently. Or you can tumpang eric84cool house, i think he wun mind. haha
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hah.. stay in the hotel till get a room? i dun wan this happen...
next week is just visit only so will stay in hotel.. on fri, planning go to the new company and if possible go for medical checkup (of course if the EP has approved la).. weekend will look for the room.. then the following week will move to SG.. hopefully by the time can get a room.. i know is limited of time.. but what can I do since no news on EP |
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QUOTE(mountain @ May 30 2007, 04:16 PM) NOleh..really hard to find leh.....all the girls here are so materialistic type 1....and somemore I'm ugly and old already...QUOTE(jimmy79 @ May 30 2007, 04:20 PM) So you will come sg and stay in hotel till you get room? I suggest you contact those agent straight( from the forum and newspapre) when you here since you need it so urgently. Or you can tumpang eric84cool house, i think he wun mind. haha ehhh..don't simply offer ppl to stay in my house..I have no house here......ohh...been here for 4 months already loh......working as toilet washer...eric84cool, what is your job? you been long time in sg? |
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dun have confident with yrself.. how to get confident that gal gal will fall in luv with u???
wah.. u must be a very talent toilet washer.. Added on May 30, 2007, 4:55 pmjimmy.. since u r looking a room for yr gf... u may also try to go to yahoo sg - classified - rentals / roomate.. This post has been edited by mountain: May 30 2007, 04:55 PM |
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QUOTE(mountain @ May 30 2007, 04:52 PM) dun have confident with yrself.. how to get confident that gal gal will fall in luv with u??? they are the one who broke down my confident!!!! wah.. u must be a very talent toilet washer.. Added on May 30, 2007, 4:55 pmjimmy.. since u r looking a room for yr gf... u may also try to go to yahoo sg - classified - rentals / roomate.. |
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May 30 2007, 05:16 PM
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Can Anyone Help me i dun have SPM And PMR But I want Woking at Singapore How ar???
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To mountain and jimmy gf,
I still find the best way to look for rooms is to go to the targeted area and hunt for the ads usually paste at the lifts lobby, letter box area of the blocks. For the west area, the cheaper rooms shall be around Jurong East and Clementi area. Or u could search further up to Bukit Batok and up up up. Go get a mrt line map and pick those area near to the stations. Travel time definitely < 45 mins. Btw, I am a "seasoned" Msian who has lived in Spore for long long time. But I am at central south area. For Soon84, go chk up jobsdb.com.sg. Frankly speaking, with SPM/PMR, u wont get as many chances as the graduates. But if u dun mind to work as coordinators, clerical works at local companies, service line like restaurants, boutiques... |
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QUOTE(Soon84 @ May 30 2007, 05:16 PM) Depends on which industry you are willing to work. If you want IT line, I can say that chance is very slim, as most of them are looking for talented, experienced and with high qualifications. |
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 30 2007, 05:12 PM) find back your confident them... QUOTE(pppooo @ May 30 2007, 07:01 PM) To mountain and jimmy gf, Thanks pppooo...I still find the best way to look for rooms is to go to the targeted area and hunt for the ads usually paste at the lifts lobby, letter box area of the blocks. For the west area, the cheaper rooms shall be around Jurong East and Clementi area. Or u could search further up to Bukit Batok and up up up. Go get a mrt line map and pick those area near to the stations. Travel time definitely < 45 mins. Btw, I am a "seasoned" Msian who has lived in Spore for long long time. But I am at central south area. sound like I have to go to SG earlier to look for a room... but my bf schedule is quite pack these 2 weeks... |
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Go alone oh .. after all, you will have to live alone sooner or later. Haha. You can choose to stay or go, it's all down to you.
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sorry to tumpang this thread.
If i'm issued a Blue IC from Singapore, is this going to be valid for whole life? What is Re-entry permit going to have anything to do with the Blue IC? I'm currently a SPR. I got this status in 2002. After the issuance of this IC to me. I'm back here to M'sia until now. So, if my re-entry permit expire, I'm not a SPR anymore? I intend to go back to work. The re-entry permit is going to expire this November. What is the relationship between re-entry permit and SPR? Any idea what's the criteria for them to assess the application for renewal of re-entry permit? |
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May 31 2007, 05:25 PM
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well life in singapore is the same as life in malaysia...
btw i thk 4 all of ur info whoever wanna work in SG plz avoid 2 working in /with( Impact Audio Visual/ Impact Creative) is a bad idea if u think u juz wanna gain exp here n as a stepping stone , cuz this company got a bad n stingy boss so if u thk i m joking .... try it ur self .... |
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Jun 1 2007, 10:22 AM
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Slacker, why come back and forth Msia and Spore?
Once u got the SPR, u r SPR permanently. You could live in Spore permanently. Re-entry permit, as uggested by the name, is to allow re-enter to Spore from overseas as Sporean i.e. no embarkation form needed, and via Spore citizen lane at their checkpoint. To obtain/renew re-entry permit, one of the criteria is u need to "contribute" to Spore. Thus u need to have a job. Employer letter/cpf acct statement/income tax eval form are few of the required docs for the application/renewal. Usually if u are at work for > a year with >2k mthly salary, u shall be able to get the renew of another 5 years. For your case, if u could get a job before Nov, u'll still stand chance to get the re- entry permit renewal for shorter period, maybe 1 year. Another way, if u r a lady, go married to Spore guy and get dependent pass and u would have re-entry permit too. Here is the tricky part. SPR allows u to live in Spore permanently provided u stay in Spore forever, no stepping out of the boundary. Without re-entry permit, once u stepped out of Spore, when wanna go back to Spore, u'll lose the privillege. U'll be treated as other normal foreigners...gotta fill up embarkation, only allows 2 weeks stay bla bla bla. Conclusion, SPR is just nothing. Unless u wanna "jail" in the little island, otherwise to secure the rentry permit to have movement freedom is more important. Where I got this info? Check ICA. http://app.ica.gov.sg/index.asp |
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Jun 1 2007, 10:39 AM
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harlow mountain, u can also come sg in the morning. straight away get a chinise newspaper, there will be having a lot of room for rent ads in there.. start calling and get a room at the same day, then u can travel back at night liao.. this is wat i did last time..
anyway, if u need my help just pm me.... i got an empty room here too if u dun mind.. ofcoz i am married and wife is here too.. hahaha... Added on June 1, 2007, 11:25 am QUOTE(t0p_man @ May 30 2007, 09:12 PM) Depends on which industry you are willing to work. If you want IT line, I can say that chance is very slim, as most of them are looking for talented, experienced and with high qualifications. yeap.. true.. at least state which line u are in.. This post has been edited by deadGalaxy: Jun 1 2007, 11:25 AM |
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QUOTE(pppooo @ Jun 1 2007, 10:22 AM) Slacker, why come back and forth Msia and Spore? I came back to M'sia during the SARS epidemic. Since then, I found a job Malaysia and work until recently. So according to the info from ICA, I can go Singapore now and work there for a year and then apply for 5 or 10 years rentry permit without leaving s'pore after November 2007{temporary until i get re-entry permit}?Once u got the SPR, u r SPR permanently. You could live in Spore permanently. Re-entry permit, as uggested by the name, is to allow re-enter to Spore from overseas as Sporean i.e. no embarkation form needed, and via Spore citizen lane at their checkpoint. To obtain/renew re-entry permit, one of the criteria is u need to "contribute" to Spore. Thus u need to have a job. Employer letter/cpf acct statement/income tax eval form are few of the required docs for the application/renewal. Usually if u are at work for > a year with >2k mthly salary, u shall be able to get the renew of another 5 years. For your case, if u could get a job before Nov, u'll still stand chance to get the re- entry permit renewal for shorter period, maybe 1 year. Another way, if u r a lady, go married to Spore guy and get dependent pass and u would have re-entry permit too. Here is the tricky part. SPR allows u to live in Spore permanently provided u stay in Spore forever, no stepping out of the boundary. Without re-entry permit, once u stepped out of Spore, when wanna go back to Spore, u'll lose the privillege. U'll be treated as other normal foreigners...gotta fill up embarkation, only allows 2 weeks stay bla bla bla. Conclusion, SPR is just nothing. Unless u wanna "jail" in the little island, otherwise to secure the rentry permit to have movement freedom is more important. Where I got this info? Check ICA. http://app.ica.gov.sg/index.asp This post has been edited by slacker: Jun 1 2007, 12:38 PM |
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QUOTE(slacker @ Jun 1 2007, 12:36 PM) I came back to M'sia during the SARS epidemic. Since then, I found a job Malaysia and work until recently. So according to the info from ICA, I can go Singapore now and work there for a year and then apply for 5 or 10 years rentry permit without leaving s'pore after November 2007{temporary until i get re-entry permit}? Wow so pathethic dun want to go back home town for Chinese New Year or Hari Raya ar?U can try to apply re-entry permit at Nov when your current re-entry expire as long as u are working at Spore that time, and your employer is willing to help you with the employer letter since u could be still under probation. ICA might not gv u full 5 years re-entry but probably grant u 1 year or so. this depends on them. Then u go apply again once when it expire lar...then u could get 5 or 10 years probably. |
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Jun 2 2007, 12:24 PM
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i want go there find job anyone got clue ?
Can help me ? i don have PMR and SPM lol~! btw Thanks for the reply Peee Jay pppooo |
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huh ?
then u mean UPSR ? hm i guessed u can try ur luck at eletronics or work as technician. |
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Jun 2 2007, 04:52 PM
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they all say must have SPM lol......
anyway thanks for the reply ubsacc2004... |
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Jun 3 2007, 02:10 AM
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Yeah, last time no need but now SPM is needed to work there. I'm going to look for a job there and hoping I can find a job where there would be free transport like bus from JB to SG which I believe usually factory jobs provide these kind of stuff and wonder if anyone has any vacancy or information for it?
Also any tips and such while working there? Thanks... |
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deadgalaxy,
U have a room in singapore? Which area? Am looking for accommodation right now... pm me ur details n rate This post has been edited by chess_gal: Jun 3 2007, 02:05 PM |
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Jun 3 2007, 03:21 PM
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I forgot what its called...maybe its what you guys call SPR. Do we need a permanent S'pore citizen identity if we work there?
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Why issit so hard to get a job in SG?
Ive applied for tons of them in Jobstreet and not a single interview. |
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QUOTE(joblessnoob @ Jun 3 2007, 04:19 PM) Why issit so hard to get a job in SG? What's ur qualification? Any field that you preferred? Job street SG hardly reply to Msian candidate unless u have extensive experience. Or unless you are from Engineering back ground then ur chances are pretty much higher. Singapore is in need of technical people..Ive applied for tons of them in Jobstreet and not a single interview. Work in Msia for few years to add value to ur resume then try again. Good luck Added on June 3, 2007, 5:30 pm QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 3 2007, 03:21 PM) I forgot what its called...maybe its what you guys call SPR. Do we need a permanent S'pore citizen identity if we work there? You just need a working permit or employment pass. Ur singapore firm will do all the application for you. After a year or so, you can opt to apply to be their PR and be eligible to the CPF contribution (Msia-EPF). To non-PR, the singapore company has the right not to reimburse your portion of CPF, in that case, it would be advisable to apply as a PR so u get your CPF (13%, heard its going 17% soon.. not sure though)This post has been edited by chess_gal: Jun 3 2007, 05:30 PM |
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that's a bit more than here isn't it? I think we're on 11% EPF?
Added on June 3, 2007, 11:05 pm QUOTE(joblessnoob @ Jun 3 2007, 04:19 PM) Why issit so hard to get a job in SG? dude, are you in Malaysia now or in Singapore?Ive applied for tons of them in Jobstreet and not a single interview. This post has been edited by young_soul: Jun 3 2007, 11:05 PM |
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Yes the SIngapore CPF is Much higher than Msia. The Singapore government believes in retiring rich but surprisingly, u can still see a lot of retired people working part-time in fast-food outlet.. a very contrasting sight as compared to Msian retired ppl! You don't see them working in Msia.
SPeaking of CPF, the employees contribution is a whooping 20%. That really kills... |
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 3 2007, 11:19 PM) Yes the SIngapore CPF is Much higher than Msia. The Singapore government believes in retiring rich but surprisingly, u can still see a lot of retired people working part-time in fast-food outlet.. a very contrasting sight as compared to Msian retired ppl! You don't see them working in Msia. employee or employer? SPeaking of CPF, the employees contribution is a whooping 20%. That really kills... This post has been edited by young_soul: Jun 4 2007, 12:05 AM |
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Jun 4 2007, 12:17 AM
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Employee- 20%
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SG GOV don't believe in pension.. so need its citizen to save up more for their retirement. That's why CPF so high? true and not true. It used to be 25% for both employer and employee. Since the 1st recesion, many things had changed. Now, its 20% and I think 15% for employer.
As for the older people, few saying, which are true though, some work to past time, or as 2nd carrer. Some need to work cause not enough saving, some need to work cause used up their saving without even thinking, like my father, regret now, and working PT. Earn some $ and have some spare time to do what he likes, coach badminton (also earning some $$). Things are no longer what it used to be. Just as was reported in MY, SG too face the same problem. My father's generation don't believe in saving, also they have been struggling to just survive and making sure enough for the family to eat. where got time to save, TRUE and Not quite. depending on circumstances.... many .. cases... but so many different issues to resolve. Not forgetting, there is a lack of workers too and in certain industry, many older people are working, employed. Alsodue to high cost of living, people need to work longer. Not forgetting, the life span in SG is getting odler, ~70 as compared to the past, 55-60, so given those extra yrs, Gov had already raised the retirment age at 62, but then..... its really up to your company... |
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 4 2007, 12:17 AM) no wonder they retire rich Added on June 4, 2007, 6:31 amgot another question about transport. I heard that you have to pay S$30 per day if you bring your car over to Singapore...is this true? That's about 900 Sing dollar per month! This post has been edited by young_soul: Jun 4 2007, 06:32 AM |
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Jun 4 2007, 09:01 AM
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Singapore more favor to jobsdb compare to jobstreet.
When I am looking for job, i got none reply from jobstreet and few interview request from jobsdb application. |
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 4 2007, 01:11 AM) got another question about transport. I heard that you have to pay S$30 per day if you bring your car over to Singapore...is this true? That's about 900 Sing dollar per month! is RM40 per weekday... so better use motorcycle it cost less than tat.. |
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I went back hometown because my grandpa pass away. This week also not free, see got any agent call or not.
You no need car or motor if you stay in Singapore. They have world class public transport. This post has been edited by jimmy79: Jun 4 2007, 11:26 AM |
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hey juz wanna ask around,
if i only got a foundation cert is it very very hard to get a job in sg? i think i'm gonna stuck in my degree now. haih. |
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jun 4 2007, 11:51 AM) hey juz wanna ask around, With a degree it is already very hard to get you a job in Singapore because small firms usually won't bother to go thru the hassle of getting you an EP(EMPLOYMENT PASS).if i only got a foundation cert is it very very hard to get a job in sg? i think i'm gonna stuck in my degree now. haih. To secure better opportunity, get a degree and try again. |
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QUOTE(jimmy79 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:25 AM) just asking coz I already bought a car dun wanna just leave it here.... Added on June 4, 2007, 2:46 pmgod...I wish Malaysia was this good. Found a website called www.contactsingapore.org.sg that provides you information to basically everything you need to know about moving to Singapore. They give links to all kinds of working forms you may need, etc etc and best of all...about pets!! This post has been edited by young_soul: Jun 4 2007, 02:46 PM |
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 4 2007, 02:03 PM) just asking coz I already bought a car Or you can buy a car and use it from 7pm-7am everyday. Normal license will have the black no. plates and you can drive 24/7 while yours will be red no. plates. Save your road tax also.dun wanna just leave it here.... Added on June 4, 2007, 2:46 pmgod...I wish Malaysia was this good. Found a website called www.contactsingapore.org.sg that provides you information to basically everything you need to know about moving to Singapore. They give links to all kinds of working forms you may need, etc etc and best of all...about pets!! I rarely see any bikes on the road, except for the superbike bikers randomly. Oh yeah, all you need is the EZLink Card for riding bus and MRT/LRT. Convenient huh? It looks like this but there's alot of design for this card. Front ![]() Back ![]() |
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Jun 4 2007, 09:52 PM
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so, its like a touch n go card?
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Yes, and you even get discount if u transit within a certain time limit. It so cheap travelling in Singapore. Not like KTM in Msia, one trip already RM3. There, with SGD 4, U can go a lot of places and not just one station.. multiple trips! Sometimes just 65 cent for bus n mrt!
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help i need job at SIngapore
who can help me? |
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jun 4 2007, 10:23 PM) love this the most btw, I'm reading previous posts in this thread. Someone said that if you have a work permit, you can't apply for PR? This post has been edited by young_soul: Jun 4 2007, 11:15 PM |
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there is a lot type of permit to work in sg. If you holding Employment pass or S pass, you can apply PR without any problem. If you holding work permit only, i think need meet certain criteria before you can apply PR or cannot apply. Not sure though
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 3 2007, 05:27 PM) What's ur qualification? Any field that you preferred? Job street SG hardly reply to Msian candidate unless u have extensive experience. Or unless you are from Engineering back ground then ur chances are pretty much higher. Singapore is in need of technical people.. I have degree in electronic engineering, but my cgpa is less than 3.0Work in Msia for few years to add value to ur resume then try again. Good luck Added on June 3, 2007, 5:30 pm work experience is half year in electronic factory. I now in Australia. Will try my luck again after 2 years |
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QUOTE(joblessnoob @ Jun 5 2007, 04:44 PM) I have degree in electronic engineering, but my cgpa is less than 3.0 If you have a degree in E&E chances are pretty high. Singapore is in need of Engineer. For some reason, SIngaporean don't like to work in SIngapore and rather opt to countries like US. SO more opportunities to us!work experience is half year in electronic factory. I now in Australia. Will try my luck again after 2 years |
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mine is just below 3 now...I'm guessing that's bad
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Hmm, below 3 is a bit hard but still there is a glimpse of hope. Depends on which university you graduated from. Then again, a bit experience will definitely boost your chances. Try nevertheless, you never try, you'll never know. I have sent multiple application to singapore too. I thought small firms will be easier BUT i was wrong, none of the medium and small firms reply me. Then I try my luck with the International ones, I hit the jackpot.
They told me, small firms won't go through the hassle of getting you an EP. SO you have to apply to Big ones, cause they will be applying in bulk! |
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QUOTE(Soon84 @ Jun 4 2007, 10:49 PM) What working experience or other qualifications do you have? I would be going tomorrow for interview in those factory jobs, hoping it can be a stepping stone in sg if I got the job... maybe can try help if I get the job.This post has been edited by animemy: Jun 5 2007, 07:40 PM |
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 5 2007, 06:58 PM) Hmm, below 3 is a bit hard but still there is a glimpse of hope. Depends on which university you graduated from. Then again, a bit experience will definitely boost your chances. Try nevertheless, you never try, you'll never know. I have sent multiple application to singapore too. I thought small firms will be easier BUT i was wrong, none of the medium and small firms reply me. Then I try my luck with the International ones, I hit the jackpot. I only have 1 year experience. Not sure if that will help...They told me, small firms won't go through the hassle of getting you an EP. SO you have to apply to Big ones, cause they will be applying in bulk! What if we apply an EP ourselves? Will that increase the chances of getting a job in small/medium firm? |
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 5 2007, 07:43 PM) I only have 1 year experience. Not sure if that will help... You can't apply EP for yourself. You need to get a sponsor (firm) to apply a EP for you. If everyone applies for a EP themselves then everyone will be coming to Singapore. I think you stand pretty good chance, so try your luck.What if we apply an EP ourselves? Will that increase the chances of getting a job in small/medium firm? |
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 5 2007, 07:43 PM) I only have 1 year experience. Not sure if that will help... Hi,What if we apply an EP ourselves? Will that increase the chances of getting a job in small/medium firm? You must get a job first before you can start to apply work permit or EP. Normally Work Permit takes much shorter processing time compare to EP. My company helps me to apply for work permit and I upgrade it to EP myself. |
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ok, so I don't need to get any work permit or certificate when searching? Only apply when I get an offer is it?
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Yes, and company will apply for you so rest assure!
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1,847 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Peee Jay |
For Malaysians should be easy to get Work Permit or EP, because even Bangla working in S'pore able to get it.
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Jun 8 2007, 05:11 PM
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12 posts Joined: Nov 2006 |
i'm a master degree holder in Physics, is it possible for me to get a job in SG?i send out several resumes but no feedback at all. i now work in MNC. thanks for advise.
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Jun 8 2007, 10:19 PM
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4,540 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sing-a-poor / Kayell / Jay-Bee |
Life in Singapore quite bored for me after working there for sometimes.....facing the same building...walking the same path...meeting the same colleagues.....
actually for those who worked there for sometimes, what's your daily activities and weekend? Monday - Friday : wake up---->work----->come back----->online------>sleep Saturday or Sunday : Jogging, library, washing clothes, shopping....very sien leh... |
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Jun 8 2007, 10:24 PM
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6,866 posts Joined: Feb 2005 |
I like the feeling of ambience around 6.30PM-8.00PM where all people got back from work and rush to the local eating shops eat and stuff.
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Jun 8 2007, 10:29 PM
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4,540 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sing-a-poor / Kayell / Jay-Bee |
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Jun 9 2007, 01:13 AM
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2,032 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: BBC Studios |
isn't it the same here? Eat, work, sleep, eat, work, sleep...online...sleep
I just want a change in environment and last I went to SG for holiday...I absolutely loved the place. |
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Jun 9 2007, 01:38 AM
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1,006 posts Joined: May 2007 From: Singapore |
QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 9 2007, 01:13 AM) isn't it the same here? Eat, work, sleep, eat, work, sleep...online...sleep Before I went there, a lot of ppl told me how kiasu Singaporeans are but those that I've met along the way are pretty nice people. Thankfully haven't met any nasty ones. I just want a change in environment and last I went to SG for holiday...I absolutely loved the place. So I think, if you have the opportunity why not try something different? The reason I choose Singapore is the exchange rate. Save up some money then maybe open my own business and qualify to be one of the forummer in 'Earning >RM5K before 28yrs old thread!' (Achievable if I convert my SGD to MYR but not an apple to apple comparison) |
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Jun 9 2007, 02:47 AM
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2,032 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: BBC Studios |
haha, I really don't think I can make that much even after converting
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Jun 9 2007, 03:48 PM
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6,866 posts Joined: Feb 2005 |
I just like the ambience actually.
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Jun 12 2007, 05:49 AM
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2,032 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: BBC Studios |
a question about driving in Singapore...
1) I have a M'sian driving license...is it valid in SG? 2) If I buy a car in SG, any problems bringing it back to M'sia? |
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Jun 12 2007, 12:53 PM
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995 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Johor Bahru , Johor , Malaysia |
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