Time for Version 2.
Here's the link to V.1 thread:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1364412
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Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.2, Plasma, LCD & LED models.
Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.2, Plasma, LCD & LED models.
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Mar 9 2011, 11:38 AM, updated 13y ago
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Time for Version 2.
Here's the link to V.1 thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1364412 This post has been edited by DigitalTech: Aug 20 2013, 10:35 AM |
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Mar 9 2011, 11:57 AM
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May I know which model is the best Panasonic plasma? How much is it currently?
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Mar 9 2011, 12:04 PM
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th-p40v20k - price range RM2400-2600 (promo!!)
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Thx. What's the price for now for the 50" one? Anyone got a great deal?
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Finally a V2.
It's long overdue if compared to the rest. |
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Mar 9 2011, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Mar 9 2011, 02:26 PM) Yes I got quoted by a shop in Cheras for 4.7k. Comes with standard 2-year warranty, but no other freebies. Good deal? Yes, it is a good deal. Can I know which shop in Cheras?I got mine at RM4899 in end Jan with interest free installment from Best. It sure looks like price is trickling down as well for 50V20 anticipating new models, I guess.. |
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Mar 9 2011, 06:08 PM) Yes, it is a good deal. Can I know which shop in Cheras? The Chinese shop in Tmn Connaught facing the highway. I got mine at RM4899 in end Jan with interest free installment from Best. It sure looks like price is trickling down as well for 50V20 anticipating new models, I guess.. Yea that's what holding me back, afraid that it will drop again dramatically once the 2011 lineup is out |
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Mar 9 2011, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Mar 9 2011, 06:51 PM) The Chinese shop in Tmn Connaught facing the highway. It's a bit strange that seems like Panasonic Singapore is still making 50V20's. This is because the unit I bought is actually labeled manufactured "Jan2011" and I also saw many new stocks coming in during that time. This could mean that there is still quite good profit in this model.. Anyway, you can wait if you want but you will not know when to stop waiting because you may be attracted to the new lineup when it's out in the market later. My advice is that you just buy and start enjoying it now .. believe you know what I mean..Yea that's what holding me back, afraid that it will drop again dramatically once the 2011 lineup is out |
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Mar 9 2011, 10:41 PM
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Wow, v2, Congrats!
Is the Cheras shop next to Alliance Bank Taman Connaught? |
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Mar 9 2011, 11:57 PM
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I think I don't like about V20K is the grey color panel, it's look distracting.. If it's in black I'm sure sapu liao before the new model coming out
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Mar 10 2011, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Mar 9 2011, 09:37 PM) It's a bit strange that seems like Panasonic Singapore is still making 50V20's. This is because the unit I bought is actually labeled manufactured "Jan2011" and I also saw many new stocks coming in during that time. This could mean that there is still quite good profit in this model.. Anyway, you can wait if you want but you will not know when to stop waiting because you may be attracted to the new lineup when it's out in the market later. My advice is that you just buy and start enjoying it now .. believe you know what I mean.. Yea I know exactly what u mean. When it comes to new tech, it can be never-ending chase/wait. But thank God the price goes under 5k already, otherwise my HM sure won't give approval. Added on March 10, 2011, 12:42 am QUOTE(RayKazansky @ Mar 9 2011, 10:41 PM) Err..if I'm not mistaken it should be opposite side lah. Sorry yah, not very familiar with Cheras area.This post has been edited by tankiasu: Mar 10 2011, 12:42 AM |
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Mar 9 2011, 11:57 PM) I think I don't like about V20K is the grey color panel, it's look distracting.. If it's in black I'm sure sapu liao before the new model coming out yup agreed! I dont know why Panasonic cant design a better looking bezel for their panels. Every year the same ugly design This post has been edited by idoblu: Mar 10 2011, 08:42 AM |
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Mar 10 2011, 08:50 AM
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I say for this ugly grey bezel they should drop the price further down to RM3.5k
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Mar 10 2011, 08:54 AM
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has there been any firmware update available from panny malaysia for our V series and wonder if HDD recording with the V is possible ?
anyone with any idea ? |
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Mar 11 2011, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 11 2011, 12:48 PM) has there been any firmware update available from panny malaysia for our V series and wonder if HDD recording with the V is possible ? One single firmware update in Jun2010 to include Skype to VieraCast. That's it as far as I know. anyone with any idea ? USB HDD recording feature is removed from the Asian version. |
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Mar 11 2011, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 11 2011, 12:48 PM) has there been any firmware update available from panny malaysia for our V series and wonder if HDD recording with the V is possible ? You can actually connect the TV to the internet to perform firmware update directly. It will tell you if your TV has a newer firmware for update or not. My TV actually had a newer firmware than available from the internet when I perform the check.anyone with any idea ? I don't think Malaysia model has the HDD and recording function. Also no digital (HD) tuner unlike the Singapore model. |
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THANKS for the info mate
Mr Poorman bet you must be the most intense user of the V . wonder if you have noticed any rising black . mine at less than 1,000 hrs haven't seen any changes yet and neither have i seen any floating black as well. how many of you use bias lighting . the LED blue strips is just wonderful as it make the black levels measurement like .004 MLL or better if i change the gamma to -2.4 , although got to compromise on crush of shadow details .black like charcoal. so nice This post has been edited by sunnyK: Mar 11 2011, 02:55 PM |
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that was what i said earlier on. the v20 series is sure superb but with grey bezel really so disappointing. just make it black so simple and nice!!
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Mar 9 2011, 09:37 PM) It's a bit strange that seems like Panasonic Singapore is still making 50V20's. This is because the unit I bought is actually labeled manufactured "Jan2011" and I also saw many new stocks coming in during that time. This could mean that there is still quite good profit in this model.. Anyway, you can wait if you want but you will not know when to stop waiting because you may be attracted to the new lineup when it's out in the market later. My advice is that you just buy and start enjoying it now .. believe you know what I mean.. Panny Singapore does not make the panels, they just assemble them. Production has shifted to 2011 panel production late last year for prototypes and early this year for higher volume. The last few batches almost always come to SEA, East/West Asia and Russia mostly always. There are benefits to not getting the latest builds of an outgoing model. Different regions have different specs and almost always US and Europe receive panels (this is not only panasonic, but all) that have the tightest distribution and the tightest adherence to specs. Other regions are always in the tails of the panel distrubition. |
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Mar 11 2011, 05:28 PM
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Anybody care to share experiences for the Plasma 42v20K...? Getting one soon. Any comments anyone..
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 11 2011, 12:48 PM) has there been any firmware update available from panny malaysia for our V series and wonder if HDD recording with the V is possible ? anyone with any idea ? QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 11 2011, 02:29 PM) Sorry, but just to clarify. The Hong Kong models comes standard with HD tuner and USB HDD recording. Thought I'd point that out. |
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 11 2011, 02:55 PM) THANKS for the info mate 3,313 hrs now. I suppose it has stabilised and as a non-critical casual user, I have not noticed drastic degradation in black level under normal ambience. To be sure, I would probably need to engage bro anfieldude's services again to compare against the earlier reading.Mr Poorman bet you must be the most intense user of the V . wonder if you have noticed any rising black . mine at less than 1,000 hrs haven't seen any changes yet and neither have i seen any floating black as well. how many of you use bias lighting . the LED blue strips is just wonderful as it make the black levels measurement like .004 MLL or better if i change the gamma to -2.4 , although got to compromise on crush of shadow details .black like charcoal. so nice As for the bias lighting, I'm not using one yet. Blue LEDs? I thought the most neutral would be the 6500K. Added on March 11, 2011, 6:57 pm QUOTE(terranova @ Mar 11 2011, 06:16 PM) Sorry, but just to clarify. The Hong Kong models comes standard with HD tuner and USB HDD recording. Thought I'd point that out. Ah , thanks for the correction.Added on March 11, 2011, 9:39 pm QUOTE(jonchoong1980 @ Mar 11 2011, 05:28 PM) The comments are littered all over the V1 thread. Anyway, V20 is one of the better ones in the market. You can't go wrong especially with the recent price decrease.This post has been edited by PoorMan: Mar 11 2011, 09:39 PM |
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i have not noticed drastic degradation in black level under normal ambience-you mean there are some small degradation
D65 is too whitish for my me. blue is cool. freakish me. i'm so crazy about this V, i bought a 42'' for my bedroom viewing |
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 12 2011, 04:54 PM) i have not noticed drastic degradation in black level under normal ambience-you mean there are some small degradation No, can't see any difference from when I first bought it under normal lighting. In darkness, can perceive very slight difference. The panel seems a tiny bit grayer when your eye's pupil dilate enough. Of course, it may be entirely psychological because I was looking for it. D65 is too whitish for my me. blue is cool. freakish me. i'm so crazy about this V, i bought a 42'' for my bedroom viewing But overall, still very happy with the black level considering the kind of abuse my family throws at it |
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Mar 13 2011, 12:52 AM
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3,300 hrs in less than 10months ,it proves how reliable panasonic TV is.
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 11 2011, 05:10 PM) that was what i said earlier on. the v20 series is sure superb but with grey bezel really so disappointing. just make it black so simple and nice!! Agree. Have compared the Pana 50V against the Sammy C6500 plasma and Pana 50U. My personal view. The picture quality of the V is comparable with the Sammy. However the light grey bezel spoils the otherwise good set. Overall the 50V would be better with a black bezel. Although the 50U is reflective, it has a black bezel which looks better in my own opinion. Not to mention that it cost more then 1k cheaper. What a waste. The 50V with the grey bezel. |
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saw carrefour selling P42x20K RM1799.. good deal?
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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 14 2011, 12:25 AM) Should be quite reasonable deal provided it is not a display unit. This is HD ready and NOT Full HD.You should be able to get at this price in SS2. BTW, if you r looking for a Full HD set, Pana 42" Plasma TH-P42V20k is retailing for RM 2499. The only draw back is that this set comes in grey bezel. |
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 14 2011, 12:58 PM) Should be quite reasonable deal provided it is not a display unit. This is HD ready and NOT Full HD. actually i am looking for a plasma which is less than RM2k, with full HD (optional)You should be able to get at this price in SS2. BTW, if you r looking for a Full HD set, Pana 42" Plasma TH-P42V20k is retailing for RM 2499. The only draw back is that this set comes in grey bezel. any recommendation? |
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New models must be coming in real soon cause I see HN now selling all their demo units
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Mar 14 2011, 02:33 PM
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I wonder how's the pricing would be like for their 2011 lineup.
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Mar 14 2011, 04:45 PM
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Anyone with pricing knowledge or historical statistics care to contribute?
Else pure speculation is welcomed as well P50ST30 msrp about USD~1499 in the states and EURO~2000 across the pond This post has been edited by gdee: Mar 14 2011, 04:50 PM |
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QUOTE(gdee @ Mar 14 2011, 04:45 PM) Anyone with pricing knowledge or historical statistics care to contribute? I dont think it will be to much diff from V series starting price, int he range of RM6k? Then the price would slowly come down.... standard trend lahElse pure speculation is welcomed as well P50ST30 msrp about USD~1499 in the states and EURO~2000 across the pond |
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 14 2011, 12:58 PM) Should be quite reasonable deal provided it is not a display unit. This is HD ready and NOT Full HD. to me the bezel color is titanium and not grey and i think it looks great and a refreshing departure from the traditional black which is too common.You should be able to get at this price in SS2. BTW, if you r looking for a Full HD set, Pana 42" Plasma TH-P42V20k is retailing for RM 2499. The only draw back is that this set comes in grey bezel. |
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Mar 14 2011, 05:17 PM) I dont think it will be to much diff from V series starting price, int he range of RM6k? Then the price would slowly come down.... standard trend lah The ST, albeit a lower end of the range, is 3D capable tv compared to the V. I'd be pleasantly surprised if it starts at a V price.This post has been edited by gdee: Mar 15 2011, 01:57 PM |
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I bought panasonic LED l42d22k with a samsung DVD player for rm2750, good deal?
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I have a noobish question about my VIERA TH-P46X20K.
I noticed when watching movies from my pc, the backlight flickers on and off during dark scenes making the picture look horribly grey. Is there something wrong with my TV or is there a setting I can change to make this not happen? |
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QUOTE(kenling @ Mar 16 2011, 03:41 PM) I have a noobish question about my VIERA TH-P46X20K. How about when you played it on the PC LCD monitor? Do you also see the flickering? This is to eliminate source problem. I noticed when watching movies from my pc, the backlight flickers on and off during dark scenes making the picture look horribly grey. Is there something wrong with my TV or is there a setting I can change to make this not happen? It could be the infamous floating black issue which is noticeable when you watch it in a dim environment. Best to call in Panasonic support to eliminate faulty hardware issues e.g. backlight. |
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Been researching the Pana 42" Plasma TH-P42V20k ... saw today in Best Denki at 3499 but just see here a few posts saying you can find for RM 2499. Can anyone tell me where I can buy at the lower price. Not display model and has full warranty? Also, one more question about the V20 ... Does it have 1:1 pixel mapping?
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 16 2011, 08:58 PM) How about when you played it on the PC LCD monitor? Do you also see the flickering? This is to eliminate source problem. Thanks for the reply boss. Ruled out the source so it definitely seems like a floating black issue. Anyone else with the same model TV with this problem?It could be the infamous floating black issue which is noticeable when you watch it in a dim environment. Best to call in Panasonic support to eliminate faulty hardware issues e.g. backlight. |
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 16 2011, 08:58 PM) How about when you played it on the PC LCD monitor? Do you also see the flickering? This is to eliminate source problem. Does the V series plasma have this famous floating black issue?It could be the infamous floating black issue which is noticeable when you watch it in a dim environment. Best to call in Panasonic support to eliminate faulty hardware issues e.g. backlight. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 16 2011, 10:20 PM) All 2010 Panny plasma models have been reported to suffer from this. Some people can notice it clearly. Some don't.Anfieldude did post something earlier that can alleviate the problem slightly by lowering the brightness setting. Would appreciate if he can remind us again the details. |
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 17 2011, 02:39 AM) All 2010 Panny plasma models have been reported to suffer from this. Some people can notice it clearly. Some don't. wow, then RM2499 42" V series still worth it? or wait for 2011 version? as far as I know, I feel that 2011 will be coming very soon. The price drop out there is huge.Anfieldude did post something earlier that can alleviate the problem slightly by lowering the brightness setting. Would appreciate if he can remind us again the details. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 17 2011, 08:52 AM) wow, then RM2499 42" V series still worth it? or wait for 2011 version? as far as I know, I feel that 2011 will be coming very soon. The price drop out there is huge. 2011 higher end models may be launch later due to tsunami . my condolence and compassion to those affected. the world still need japanese made electronics. simply better than the rest |
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V series' panel made in JP.
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asked a shop around my place
42v20k price RM2480 good deal? |
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QUOTE(starship1 @ Mar 15 2011, 10:12 AM) to me the bezel color is titanium and not grey and i think it looks great and a refreshing departure from the traditional black which is too common. I sokong.... But then not everyone has the same taste i presume.... |
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what brand u all recommend now for 2k+-
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guys,
42v20k or 50U20k, which one better deal if compare spec /cost ? 42V ~rm2400, 50U ~rm3200 regards |
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will the viewing distance between you n the TV has any effect on the selection of 42" over 50"? I feel that if the distance is not too far, viewing a big screen is giving my head a spin....
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If your viewing distance is around 10ft, then 50" HDTV should be OK.
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QUOTE(wkalvin @ Mar 18 2011, 09:59 AM) guys, as a matter of fact, i just got back from senq which happens to have both the 50u and 42v side by side displaying the same content by hdmi.42v20k or 50U20k, which one better deal if compare spec /cost ? 42V ~rm2400, 50U ~rm3200 regards some kind of demo material with scenes from the dark knight in it. and since i have the bd at home (dark knight), i could say WITHOUT A DOUBT i'll choose the 42v over the 50u anyday. i'd be happy to trade the extra 8 inch for better black level. and i'd be happy to buy the cheaper, superior 42v for its anti reflective coating. but then again, i'm not buying another tv. but you are. so you're the one that's supposed to compare them side by side |
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SengQ selling V50 how much? or whats the best you have seen for this model? thanks
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 18 2011, 03:14 PM) it's not v50, it's v20. there's no v50 series.i guess you're implying the p50v20k, which in short people are referring to as 50v (50" from the vseries plasma). there's no 50v on display. and didn't bother to ask. |
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I hope they still sell 42v20 in 3 months time.
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i was wondering why 42v20k price drop so much..
is there any problem with this model?? hope someone can clarify it b4 i regret after purchase.. |
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I think it's because the 50" is a sweet spot size wise. So compared to the 42", it will have more unsold stock then it's popular bigger sized brother.. hence the higher price cut. supply & demand. The V series is a good plasma, don't worry!
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QUOTE(neb @ Mar 18 2011, 07:44 PM) http://hdguru.com/panasonic-proclaims-high...lasma-tvs/4241/ Looks like 2011 Panny series have resolved most of the issues. This post has been edited by PoorMan: Mar 18 2011, 11:36 PM |
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Saw VT50 - opened box plus 1 3D spec plus BDT300 player
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me and my fren juz paid visit to imsobloodysick shop earlier and we brought the P42V20k from him each for ourselve... nice guy wif good bargain ... hehehe...
now where is the check hour config posted earlier in V1? cant remember which page as i juz browse till pg 5x then stop... too much info to see.. anyone care to share it out xD This post has been edited by G|O: Mar 20 2011, 02:58 PM |
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I searched google using "panasonic viera servicemen menu operating hour"
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 18 2011, 03:14 PM) senq in miri 42v20 selling at 2999(3 years warranty).. left 2 pieces but they dont accept trade-in too bad. tml im gonna go check the price at panasonic dealer hope to get better deal!! |
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Latest that I saw, Pana P50V20K is selling for RM4,999 while P42V20K is RM2,499.
Quite a lots of shops does not have stock any more. If you are interested, better get them before stock runs out. 2011 model coming out very soon. The new models will not be at these prices. |
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 20 2011, 07:05 PM) Latest that I saw, Pana P50V20K is selling for RM4,999 while P42V20K is RM2,499. maybe cheaper and better? Quite a lots of shops does not have stock any more. If you are interested, better get them before stock runs out. 2011 model coming out very soon. The new models will not be at these prices. |
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P42V20K ? you can get from Joseph, Kajang, he still got stock, just bought one set from him last Sat, nice seller
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should I buy P50v20k now? Its very tempting.... is floating black very noticeable or people just too picky?
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 21 2011, 10:09 AM) should I buy P50v20k now? Its very tempting.... is floating black very noticeable or people just too picky? depends on the price. how much can you get it for? over here lowest ive seen is 4699. if really good deal then can buyi think i gave up liao on V5020k. From launching till now I still "cant" buy one This post has been edited by idoblu: Mar 21 2011, 12:04 PM |
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Mar 21 2011, 01:28 PM
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so wat the latest price for P50v20k??
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QUOTE(G|O @ Mar 20 2011, 02:57 PM) me and my fren juz paid visit to imsobloodysick shop earlier and we brought the P42V20k from him each for ourselve... nice guy wif good bargain ... hehehe... what price u get from him? i get a good price from him as well, but havent make a visit yet.now where is the check hour config posted earlier in V1? cant remember which page as i juz browse till pg 5x then stop... too much info to see.. anyone care to share it out xD |
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Am looking for a samsung 32" LCD replacement for my room mostly use for gaming. However my concern is the viewing distance since right now the viewing distance for my 32" is about 6-7 feet approx.
So do you think the panny plasma 42" would be ideal for my room with about 6-7 feet viewing distance? |
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ive just made a booking at senq miri for 42v20k at rm2999 with 3years warranty. its the only more reliable 'shop' in miri and also the cheapest u can find in miri. so guys welcome me to the family
btw, to add another 2years warranty u nid to + rm340 This post has been edited by law1777: Mar 21 2011, 05:49 PM |
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:10 PM) Am looking for a samsung 32" LCD replacement for my room mostly use for gaming. However my concern is the viewing distance since right now the viewing distance for my 32" is about 6-7 feet approx. 42" would be perfect for 6-7 feet viewing distanceSo do you think the panny plasma 42" would be ideal for my room with about 6-7 feet viewing distance? QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:45 PM) ive just made a booking at senq miri for 42v20k at rm2999 with 3years warranty. its the only more reliable 'shop' in miri and also the cheapest u can find in miri. so guys welcome me to the family Welcome to the family lolbtw, to add another 2years warranty u nid to + rm340 |
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Mar 21 2011, 06:10 PM) Am looking for a samsung 32" LCD replacement for my room mostly use for gaming. However my concern is the viewing distance since right now the viewing distance for my 32" is about 6-7 feet approx. If you are going to use it mainly for gaming, you should be aware of the burn-in, IR problem which are inherent of plasma TVs.So do you think the panny plasma 42" would be ideal for my room with about 6-7 feet viewing distance? So, better take note if you using for gaming... |
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 21 2011, 09:13 PM) If you are going to use it mainly for gaming, you should be aware of the burn-in, IR problem which are inherent of plasma TVs. meaning plasma is not suitable for gaming? So, better take note if you using for gaming... LCD/LED for gaming? hmm... gotta think twice again.. as i will used it for video and gaming.. |
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 21 2011, 09:13 PM) If you are going to use it mainly for gaming, you should be aware of the burn-in, IR problem which are inherent of plasma TVs. It's OK through my own experience. Everyday for 2 hours since Nov2010, I've been using V20 for PS3 gaming. On weekends, straight 8-10 hours playing FF XIII. Once in a while, a bit of IR but that washes away quickly when you switch to other channels. So, better take note if you using for gaming... PS3 setting: HDMI to full range and deep colour to Auto. HD gaming on V20 is breath taking. Edit: Oh ... and make sure you have HT for the 5.1 surround sound and it's a real gaming experience. Added on March 22, 2011, 3:18 am QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 21 2011, 09:29 PM) Sure, the bigger, the better investment. 42" is minimum for full HD enjoyment at 6' viewing distance. This post has been edited by PoorMan: Mar 22 2011, 03:25 AM |
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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 22 2011, 12:23 AM) you're probably the only person who told me that. Normally people sit in the middle so that the screen fullyenvelope your vision creating the atmosphere of being inside the movie. Your movie watching experience failed liao. QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 22 2011, 03:14 AM) It's OK through my own experience. Everyday for 2 hours since Nov2010, I've been using V20 for PS3 gaming. On weekends, straight 8-10 hours playing FF XIII. Once in a while, a bit of IR but that washes away quickly when you switch to other channels. PS3 some game no Full HD. Example is Uncharted 2. Sien.PS3 setting: HDMI to full range and deep colour to Auto. HD gaming on V20 is breath taking. Edit: Oh ... and make sure you have HT for the 5.1 surround sound and it's a real gaming experience. Added on March 22, 2011, 3:18 am Sure, the bigger, the better investment. 42" is minimum for full HD enjoyment at 6' viewing distance. I wonder how is the sound if come from 7.1 surround sound... |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 22 2011, 08:52 AM) you're probably the only person who told me that. Normally people sit in the middle so that the screen fully I did try to watch it at the middle row but I cant view the whole screen at a time and all the image are so blur. I get a full vision for last few row and I am more comfortable with it/ envelope your vision creating the atmosphere of being inside the movie. Your movie watching experience failed liao. PS3 some game no Full HD. Example is Uncharted 2. Sien. I wonder how is the sound if come from 7.1 surround sound... I did went to IMAX to watch 1 movies, AD2000 if not mistaken and bought the last row and still few giddy as the screen are damn big and i cannot get use to it. my personal experience only.. |
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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 22 2011, 09:13 AM) I did try to watch it at the middle row but I cant view the whole screen at a time and all the image are so blur. I get a full vision for last few row and I am more comfortable with it/ Err... we don't need to view the whole screen. The reason you see the image blur because you're trying to view everythingI did went to IMAX to watch 1 movies, AD2000 if not mistaken and bought the last row and still few giddy as the screen are damn big and i cannot get use to it. my personal experience only.. at the same time and cannot concentrate on the action. See the important part and blur the other so that you're fully envelope in the movie. Relax bro. You don't miss anything without focussing in every single pixel of the movie. |
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Panasonic Asia has not announced its lineup for 2011 as yet. I hope the ST30 that is available in the US/EU is available here and being entry level, hopefully the prices are decent. The black levels for the ST series seems more than decent (barring black level rise) at 0.008ft/L. I have measured V20s that start at 0.006ft/L and at about 1500hrs are at 0.008ft/L. This shows that the improvements in the 2011 shd be good. With a full 3D CMS for the red, green and blue (primary colours) (this is for complete colour calibration) the ST30 shows a lot of promise. The floating blacks (occasionally seen in the 2010 V and VT series due to low black levels) seems to be reduced or possibly eliminated (this is not confirmed but some reviewers I know seem to say that its there but much much less). The positive comments so far are encouraging. This plus the fact that Samsung does not seem to have fixed the Cinema Smooth in its plasma range and not that great black levels on the Sammy flagship plasma for 2011 might help Panny a little. However, the earthquake might actually slow down supply for the larger panels that are slated for later this year. Only time will tell. I'm personnally looking forward to the 2D G series and the 3D VT30 series to see how the improvements are compared to the V20 and VT20 seen last year. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 22 2011, 10:28 AM) Panasonic Asia has not announced its lineup for 2011 as yet. I hope the ST30 that is available in the US/EU is available here and being entry level, hopefully the prices are decent. I think the big question is, is the price same as current level of clearance price of V series? Should weThe black levels for the ST series seems more than decent (barring black level rise) at 0.008ft/L. I have measured V20s that start at 0.006ft/L and at about 1500hrs are at 0.008ft/L. This shows that the improvements in the 2011 shd be good. With a full 3D CMS for the red, green and blue (primary colours) (this is for complete colour calibration) the ST30 shows a lot of promise. The floating blacks (occasionally seen in the 2010 V and VT series due to low black levels) seems to be reduced or possibly eliminated (this is not confirmed but some reviewers I know seem to say that its there but much much less). The positive comments so far are encouraging. This plus the fact that Samsung does not seem to have fixed the Cinema Smooth in its plasma range and not that great black levels on the Sammy flagship plasma for 2011 might help Panny a little. However, the earthquake might actually slow down supply for the larger panels that are slated for later this year. Only time will tell. I'm personnally looking forward to the 2D G series and the 3D VT30 series to see how the improvements are compared to the V20 and VT20 seen last year. scramble to buy V series at clearance price? Samsung price point of latest 4 series plasma show that the price is same or higher a bit than the clearance price of 2010 plasma. Example is 43" plasma (43" and not 42" which is an upgrade) is RM1999 retail price. Can get discount some more. So it seems the clearance price stuck with the new model of Samsung. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 22 2011, 10:32 AM) I think the big question is, is the price same as current level of clearance price of V series? Should we With the P42V20 now sold as low as RM2,299 and Samsung's "attractive" pricing for its HD-ready 2011 models, Panasonic Malaysia's would be hard pressed to maintain a premium price for its mainstream 2011 models if it wants to maintain its market share. Meanwhile, the V series is a great buy.scramble to buy V series at clearance price? Samsung price point of latest 4 series plasma show that the price is same or higher a bit than the clearance price of 2010 plasma. Example is 43" plasma (43" and not 42" which is an upgrade) is RM1999 retail price. Can get discount some more. So it seems the clearance price stuck with the new model of Samsung. I reckon it is an expensive lesson for the folks at Panasonic Malaysia. It should have gradually lowered the V series prices (like in other mature markets) in Q4 2010 instead of dumping the prices after the 2011 line-up has been announced. Added on March 22, 2011, 11:54 am QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 22 2011, 10:32 AM) I think the big question is, is the price same as current level of clearance price of V series? Should we With the P42V20 now sold as low as RM2,299 and Samsung's "attractive" pricing for its HD-ready 2011 models, Panasonic Malaysia would be hard pressed to maintain a premium price for its mainstream 2011 models if it wants to maintain its market share. Meanwhile, the V series is a great buy.scramble to buy V series at clearance price? Samsung price point of latest 4 series plasma show that the price is same or higher a bit than the clearance price of 2010 plasma. Example is 43" plasma (43" and not 42" which is an upgrade) is RM1999 retail price. Can get discount some more. So it seems the clearance price stuck with the new model of Samsung. I reckon it is an expensive lesson for the folks at Panasonic Malaysia. It should have gradually lowered the V series prices (like in other mature markets) in Q4 2010 instead of dumping the prices after the 2011 line-up has been announced. This post has been edited by msiathot: Mar 22 2011, 11:55 AM |
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QUOTE(msiathot @ Mar 22 2011, 11:51 AM) With the P42V20 now sold as low as RM2,299 and Samsung's "attractive" pricing for its HD-ready 2011 models, Panasonic Malaysia's would be hard pressed to maintain a premium price for its mainstream 2011 models if it wants to maintain its market share. Meanwhile, the V series is a great buy. LOL.. Panasonic only gradually lower the price of X series below RM2k for 42" in Q4 2010 whileI reckon it is an expensive lesson for the folks at Panasonic Malaysia. It should have gradually lowered the V series prices (like in other mature markets) in Q4 2010 instead of dumping the prices after the 2011 line-up has been announced. Added on March 22, 2011, 11:54 am With the P42V20 now sold as low as RM2,299 and Samsung's "attractive" pricing for its HD-ready 2011 models, Panasonic Malaysia's would be hard pressed to maintain a premium price for its mainstream 2011 models if it wants to maintain its market share. Meanwhile, the V series is a great buy. I reckon it is an expensive lesson for the folks at Panasonic Malaysia. It should have gradually lowered the V series prices (like in other mature markets) in Q4 2010 instead of dumping the prices after the 2011 line-up has been announced. other series remain same price. Suddenly these few weeks, the V series drop so much. Where do you see the price 42V20 at RM2299? Its still RM2.4k in Penang. How much do you get for 50V20? |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 22 2011, 11:57 AM) LOL.. Panasonic only gradually lower the price of X series below RM2k for 42" in Q4 2010 while Just google the brand, model and lowyat.other series remain same price. Suddenly these few weeks, the V series drop so much. Where do you see the price 42V20 at RM2299? Its still RM2.4k in Penang. How much do you get for 50V20? |
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QUOTE(msiathot @ Mar 22 2011, 11:51 AM) I reckon it is an expensive lesson for the folks at Panasonic Malaysia. It should have gradually lowered the V series prices (like in other mature markets) in Q4 2010 instead of dumping the prices after the 2011 line-up has been announced. don't think the folks at panasonic got affected much by not lowering the prices of the V gradually. more income for them as the V are still popular even at non-reduced prices.an expensive lesson for the people that bought the v20 a couple of month earlier and ended up paying a premium for it. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 22 2011, 11:57 AM) LOL.. Panasonic only gradually lower the price of X series below RM2k for 42" in Q4 2010 while imsobloodysick's panasonic thread 42v20k only rm2299other series remain same price. Suddenly these few weeks, the V series drop so much. Where do you see the price 42V20 at RM2299? Its still RM2.4k in Penang. How much do you get for 50V20? |
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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 22 2011, 05:07 PM) got it: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/619012 This post has been edited by gogo2: Mar 22 2011, 05:16 PM |
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this is what he pm-ed me,
gisella Viera Enquiries [iamsobloodysick], Today, 11:04 AM Newbie Group: Junior Member Posts: 45 Status: Offline Joined: Apr 2010 Hi law, Please text/call my brother 012-3378568 for any enquiries. My brother's account was suspended because I (gisella) was said to redirect sales to his threads. We're considering moving our business out from here. Sorry for the inconvenience caused. btw he is a very reliable seller and owns a shop. many ppl bought from him directly from his shop |
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 22 2011, 06:17 PM) this is what he pm-ed me, wondering... what is wrong with that to cause his account to be suspended?gisella Viera Enquiries [iamsobloodysick], Today, 11:04 AM Newbie Group: Junior Member Posts: 45 Status: Offline Joined: Apr 2010 Hi law, Please text/call my brother 012-3378568 for any enquiries. My brother's account was suspended because I (gisella) was said to redirect sales to his threads. We're considering moving our business out from here. Sorry for the inconvenience caused. btw he is a very reliable seller and owns a shop. many ppl bought from him directly from his shop Have seen some other people who promote their sales within lowyat forum |
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 22 2011, 05:53 PM) wondering... what is wrong with that to cause his account to be suspended? I suppose I can see some problems. The mods can't differentiate between one trader that create multiple ids that recommend sales back to himself or have many partners (or brothers) creating ids with the aim of promoting his product (which creates an illusion of being reliable/popular and that is unethical) against bona fide recommendations from real customers. Have seen some other people who promote their sales within lowyat forum iamsobloodysick is already well known enough in lowyat and gisella (being a brother/partner) doesn't need to do any promoting to create suspicious collaboration. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 22 2011, 10:28 AM) Panasonic Asia has not announced its lineup for 2011 as yet. I hope the ST30 that is available in the US/EU is available here and being entry level, hopefully the prices are decent. I'm personnally looking forward to the 2D G series and the 3D VT30 series to see how the improvements are compared to the V20 and VT20 seen last year. like gogo2 mentioned, Im wondering too - should we go for the 2010 V now or wait for the 2011 G or S? This post has been edited by idoblu: Mar 22 2011, 09:48 PM |
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when will release the latest G/S series?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 22 2011, 09:46 PM) will the 2D G series be comparable to the 2D V series? Let us know when you know If price is the most important factor, I suggest you go for the V20 now.like gogo2 mentioned, Im wondering too - should we go for the 2010 V now or wait for the 2011 G or S? But if you are more interested with the better black levels, less floating/rising blacks, improved 50Hz material handling ... then you should wait for the 2011 models. The price will likely be higher at launch (> RM1-2K, more than that for the 42") unless you are willing to wait until Mar 2012 when they are clearing stocks. The other factor is the 3D series (ST, GT and VT) pricing. Will Panny Malaysia follow the US direction to make 3D mainstream? And hence the pricing could be very mainstream as well. Also some features available in the V20 is gone in the replacement G/GT30 (ISFccc professional settings) and only retained in the flagship VT30. |
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2011 G series would probably b the same price as when the V series first came out. if u dont mind about topping up 1-2k more than V series now for the 'better black levels, less floating/rising blacks, improved 50Hz material handling'. btw u shld know most of the users here are already very satisfied with the black levels on V and did not notice much floating/rising blacks
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with all this new G and V series about to be launch soon , i could feel my hands getting really itchy and my pockets about to be burn and credits cards to be pull by the magnetic swap machine.
only if the price is reasonable and affordable . the 55'' and 65'' looks really nice in new design and better black levels but this new models ain't gonna come cheap |
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here we go, a small peep taken from AVSforum
ST and GT have different processing. GT and VT have dual power supplies and different processing board setups. GT and VT are now confirmed to have different processing. VT has a unique filter to 2011. P/S why you guys like square bottoms i prefer the round one This post has been edited by sunnyK: Mar 23 2011, 01:07 PM |
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 23 2011, 01:02 PM) here we go, a small peep taken from AVSforum Why you guys prefer bottom? I prefer hanging at wall or hanging from Ceiling.ST and GT have different processing. GT and VT have dual power supplies and different processing board setups. GT and VT are now confirmed to have different processing. VT has a unique filter to 2011. P/S why you guys like square bottoms i prefer the round one |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 23 2011, 01:56 PM) kenot.took weeks of visiting nearly all furniture shops in the area (and neighbouring state) to find a cabinet that fits the huge centre speaker, avr, htpc, preamp, power amp, and stereo amp. and even after all of that, still have to do modification to make sure the cabinet have enough ventilation to avoid overheating. |
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is the internet connection thing important and useful? (V series)
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Panasonic need to bring their 3D tech to lower series. It looks like Samsung is very aggressive with 3D tech for 2011 and available from their low Series 4 all the way up. For entry level 51" (yes, xtra one inch) Full HD panel, the PS51D550 had build in 3D plus one free glasses. Price around RM 4.5k. Let's see what's Panasonic pricing strategy for 2011 model.
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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 23 2011, 06:25 PM) Panasonic need to bring their 3D tech to lower series. It looks like Samsung is very aggressive with 3D tech for 2011 and available from their low Series 4 all the way up. For entry level 51" (yes, xtra one inch) Full HD panel, the PS51D550 had build in 3D plus one free glasses. Price around RM 4.5k. Let's see what's Panasonic pricing strategy for 2011 model. I hope the ST series that is supposed to be entry level is priced the same as what the Sammy is supposed to be. This will help. |
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ok...im going to buy 42v20 tonite...
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 23 2011, 06:45 PM) I hope the ST series that is supposed to be entry level is priced the same as what the Sammy is supposed to be. This will help. Hope they can bring in 50" ST30 to around RM5k with free glasses. I always like Panny service support which is fast and no fuss. 55" below RM 6.5k would push me to consider upgrading. |
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just bought a 50u20 from iamsobloodysick. been playing it with my hdplayer on some 1080p movies but found it there's noises / snow when i went close to the scrren to check the PQ. is it normal or during breaking in time only?
by the way how to check the running hour? i've try the method from v1 but stuck at the last part where i've to hold 'mute' button for 3 sec and i can't turn it off by pressing the power button on the tv, i actually have to turn it OFF. thanks |
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Mar 24 2011, 12:45 AM) just bought a 50u20 from iamsobloodysick. been playing it with my hdplayer on some 1080p movies but found it there's noises / snow when i went close to the scrren to check the PQ. is it normal or during breaking in time only? the snow or noise is normal for plasmas. normally for a 50" tv, it's recommended to at least 2m away from the screen.by the way how to check the running hour? i've try the method from v1 but stuck at the last part where i've to hold 'mute' button for 3 sec and i can't turn it off by pressing the power button on the tv, i actually have to turn it OFF. thanks u probably won't see the snow when u're seated at this minimum viewing distance. |
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QUOTE(tim_1335 @ Mar 24 2011, 02:00 AM) the snow or noise is normal for plasmas. normally for a 50" tv, it's recommended to at least 2m away from the screen. really? I'm googling now for this information. I plan to watch 50" plasma in 6~7 feet range.u probably won't see the snow when u're seated at this minimum viewing distance. I thought the plasma disadvantage is just burn-in IR and high power consumption only. Added on March 24, 2011, 9:26 amI google and found noise and snow only happened after 1 year: http://plasmascreentelevision.net/what-is-...cal-store/.html This post has been edited by gogo2: Mar 24 2011, 09:26 AM |
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U series maybe got snow/noise if you sit too close but V series probably not noticeable. Anyway look at the picture, not the snow....
Im still in a dilemma whether to get the V50 or not. Somehow I got a gut feeling, 2011 model will be better and cheaper. With stiff competition from the Korean brands, this has got to be the case. The only thing that put me off is the 2011 high end models lineup seems to be all 3D which Im not too interested in |
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Mar 24 2011, 12:45 AM) just bought a 50u20 from iamsobloodysick. been playing it with my hdplayer on some 1080p movies but found it there's noises / snow when i went close to the scrren to check the PQ. is it normal or during breaking in time only? What do u mean by snow/noise? Is it in bright areas or dark areas? One thing to note is that when a panel is new, the phosphors are unstable due to higher drive voltages for different r,g,b sub pixels due to different half life of each colour. It typically goes away and becomes better after about 50 hrs. Pannys are known to have noisier blacks but that can be minimized with the correct brightness setting. Pannys do not have 'noise' in colours which is also why there is more banding in pannys. I don't want to go too technical on why but will add to this post later. by the way how to check the running hour? i've try the method from v1 but stuck at the last part where i've to hold 'mute' button for 3 sec and i can't turn it off by pressing the power button on the tv, i actually have to turn it OFF. thanks Pls explain ur problem and let me know ur plasma life an settings that u saw this. Something is not right. If the set is new, pls do not use vivid as it can cause what u r seeing as well. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 24 2011, 11:37 AM) What do u mean by snow/noise? Is it in bright areas or dark areas? One thing to note is that when a panel is new, the phosphors are unstable due to higher drive voltages for different r,g,b sub pixels due to different half life of each colour. It typically goes away and becomes better after about 50 hrs. Pannys are known to have noisier blacks but that can be minimized with the correct brightness setting. Pannys do not have 'noise' in colours which is also why there is more banding in pannys. I don't want to go too technical on why but will add to this post later. bro if u know how, i hope u dun mind to teach me/pm me the way to get to know my v20's total usage hours. thanks alot Pls explain ur problem and let me know ur plasma life an settings that u saw this. Something is not right. If the set is new, pls do not use vivid as it can cause what u r seeing as well. |
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it may void the warranty . just enjoy this beauty if you bought it from a reputable sellers
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perhaps, the word 'grainy' should be used to describe quintesson's problem instead of 'noise'.
maybe some people would picture 'noise' as in static on blank Tv stations. i'm pretty sure i have seen this 'grain' from all plasmas if i stand a few centimetres away from it. |
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QUOTE(tim_1335 @ Mar 24 2011, 05:27 PM) perhaps, the word 'grainy' should be used to describe quintesson's problem instead of 'noise'. tim,maybe some people would picture 'noise' as in static on blank Tv stations. i'm pretty sure i have seen this 'grain' from all plasmas if i stand a few centimetres away from it. If u r noticing it from a few inches, then its dithering. Plasma dither. However, pannys shd dither very little in colours and more in dark areas. If u move back about 2-3ft, it shd be difficult to see. If u still see it, u r probably overdriving the panel, most likely in vivid mode or very high contrast. Pioneers dither more in colours but are stable in blacks. Sammys dither but have some kind of temporal filtering that renders less on the eyes, but the filtering causes undefeatable sharpening thus the images don't look as realistic as the others. All the companies have different methods. When the company chooses to use less aggressive dithering or different algortihms, something gives. In Pannys sense, banding is the effect. |
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any news on when the 2011 plasma arriving here?
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I think this is going to be a long wait, recent tsunami in japan has caused lots of japan factories to reduce parts production
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 24 2011, 06:27 PM) tim, Oh i see...so that's the reason banding is so prevalent in my U20. I even thought the mighty VT25 and V20 don't have thisIf u r noticing it from a few inches, then its dithering. Plasma dither. However, pannys shd dither very little in colours and more in dark areas. If u move back about 2-3ft, it shd be difficult to see. If u still see it, u r probably overdriving the panel, most likely in vivid mode or very high contrast. Pioneers dither more in colours but are stable in blacks. Sammys dither but have some kind of temporal filtering that renders less on the eyes, but the filtering causes undefeatable sharpening thus the images don't look as realistic as the others. All the companies have different methods. When the company chooses to use less aggressive dithering or different algortihms, something gives. In Pannys sense, banding is the effect. all this while, i thought those bluray rips that i downloaded were too compressed or someone messed with the colours. |
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QUOTE(tim_1335 @ Mar 24 2011, 07:47 PM) Oh i see...so that's the reason banding is so prevalent in my U20. I even thought the mighty VT25 and V20 don't have this The V and the VTs have but its made worse when the image bit rate is low. There is not enuf info to reduce the banding.all this while, i thought those bluray rips that i downloaded were too compressed or someone messed with the colours. Its possible that u will see it on compressed rips as it will make it worse. Also in Astro HD/SD feeds as well, especially in faces. |
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QUOTE(neb @ Mar 24 2011, 07:00 PM) I think this is going to be a long wait, recent tsunami in japan has caused lots of japan factories to reduce parts production I believe US and EU has started to receive their initial batches. From what I've read, Panny plasmas shd not be too hard hit at least in the 1st half. The LCDs and other lines will see some issues. |
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thanks for the feedback guys.
at the moment my setting are at 'zero' or minimal level cause still in breaking-in stage. will see how it progress later. theoretically plasma PQ is the best but i found that the LCD looks much sharper, it has the feeling that the character & the background is separated, if you know what i mean. btw can anyone tell me how / steps to check the duration usage on U series, i've tried the V series method stated on V1 but got stuck at the last level no timer shows? |
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I am looking for Panasonic TH-P50V20K model and mind sharing which shop sells this model?
this model seems to be selling fast like hot cakes |
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QUOTE(tsgold @ Mar 25 2011, 05:52 PM) I am looking for Panasonic TH-P50V20K model and mind sharing which shop sells this model? U can try TBM at Old Klang Road. The last time I was there, there still hav a few units left. So, better hurry if u intend to get them...this model seems to be selling fast like hot cakes Good luck |
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 25 2011, 10:28 PM) U can try TBM at Old Klang Road. The last time I was there, there still hav a few units left. So, better hurry if u intend to get them... Anyone seeing the price slashing on the VT20's now? Was around 14,000 in Best Denki couple weeks ago ... is down to 7,500 nowGood luck |
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yup VT50 is 7500 and comes with the 3D glasses and bluray player. I think package comes with HT set as well, not sure. really good deal but double of my budget for something I dont need (3D part)
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what are those VT20 and VT50 about ?
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QUOTE(starship1 @ Mar 26 2011, 09:27 AM) what are those VT20 and VT50 about ? If you want 3D, then I suggest you wait for the 2011 models where the price could be much more competitive. Of course if you are just interested in Infinite Black Pro performance, then you should look for the discounted VT20.must be P50/VT20 which is a 50'' panel. what about the 65'' price? |
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 26 2011, 10:10 AM) If you want 3D, then I suggest you wait for the 2011 models where the price could be much more competitive. Of course if you are just interested in Infinite Black Pro performance, then you should look for the discounted VT20. Exactly ... will have to wait and see on price, but in the meantime other than being 3D capable (personally don't care for 3D) the VT20 has the Infinite Black Pro vs the Infinite Black panel, and it has the THX mode that the V20 lacks. For my living room the 50" is a bit too big tho, and the P42GT20 looks to be just a stock a V20 with 3D. If the GT20 gets heavily discounted tho then it can be a good deal for anyone who wants to snap up a top set at a great price with a bit of 3D future proofing built in.Anyone got any discount price on the P42GT20? This post has been edited by onlymac: Mar 26 2011, 10:46 AM |
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The P50VT20 can now be had for ~RM6k and the P42GT20 ~RM4k. Both comes bundle with the 3D starter kit.
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Added on March 26, 2011, 11:52 am QUOTE(onlymac @ Mar 26 2011, 10:45 AM) Exactly ... will have to wait and see on price, but in the meantime other than being 3D capable (personally don't care for 3D) the VT20 has the Infinite Black Pro vs the Infinite Black panel, and it has the THX mode that the V20 lacks. For my living room the 50" is a bit too big tho, and the P42GT20 looks to be just a stock a V20 with 3D. If the GT20 gets heavily discounted tho then it can be a good deal for anyone who wants to snap up a top set at a great price with a bit of 3D future proofing built in. The VT has fast firing phosphors if u r prone to phoshor trails and a better filter that will make viewing in a bright environment better. Post calibration the pro modes are more accurate then thx.Anyone got any discount price on the P42GT20? This post has been edited by anfieldude: Mar 26 2011, 11:58 AM |
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agreed with AD , the True Cinema mode is THX by another name and its only suitable under control ambient lighting.its too dark for my liking for daytime
after calibration should be good but wonder if the G series has the pro modes The P50VT20 can now be had for ~RM6k -if it is a new set,it's worth it with the bundles thrown in i heard the new sammy 51'' D8000 is a dissapointment at least on the black level with LCE which cannot be switch off. the new st30 looks like it may be a gem for its price and class. by the first impression of the st30,the new GT ,V and VT series may look orgasmic This post has been edited by sunnyK: Mar 26 2011, 01:00 PM |
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QUOTE(onlymac @ Mar 26 2011, 10:45 AM) Exactly ... will have to wait and see on price, but in the meantime other than being 3D capable (personally don't care for 3D) the VT20 has the Infinite Black Pro vs the Infinite Black panel, and it has the THX mode that the V20 lacks. For my living room the 50" is a bit too big tho, and the P42GT20 looks to be just a stock a V20 with 3D. If the GT20 gets heavily discounted tho then it can be a good deal for anyone who wants to snap up a top set at a great price with a bit of 3D future proofing built in. As per the above replies, if you're thinking about GT20 (basically just for 3D), might as well wait for the 2011 models. The VT20, on the other hand, offers better PQ features and therefore, better value especially with the heavily discounted price. Anyone got any discount price on the P42GT20? Even when you compare GT20 to the V20, I would still go for the V20 as the 3D feature is way overpriced in 2010. |
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 26 2011, 01:56 PM) Even when you compare GT20 to the V20, I would still go for the V20 as the 3D feature is way overpriced in 2010. Thanks for the reminder about the fast firing phosphors AD. And PM yes, thanks for the wisdom on feature/price comparison with 2011 models ... I'm with you actually, as noted I've no need or interest in a 3D capable TV right now. I was just noting to myself really that the V20 and GT20 specs are the same, the latter being the 3D capable version, not trying to teach anyone things they already know. As for the VT20, yes has all the advantages noted but even discounted the price is 3x higher than the discounted V20, so was checking for latest GT20 price (apparently RM4k). Just wish I could get a "real" V20 ... can get in UK for RM3.4k with 5 year guarantee. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 26 2011, 09:11 AM) yup VT50 is 7500 and comes with the 3D glasses and bluray player. I think package comes with HT set as well, not sure. really good deal but double of my budget for something I dont need (3D part) bro how many times do we have to tell u? there is no V50 nor VT50. they are v20/v30 and vt20/vt30.. i know u mean 50inches v20/v30/vt20/vt30 but again there is no such model as V50/VT50!! |
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there may be a V50 or VT50 but will only be release in 2013
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2013? the world might have ended already LOL
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just grab a unit of 42v from joseph..
can some teach me how to configure the unit to performance as it is? Added on March 28, 2011, 12:38 amwow ... the DLNA can play RMVB from the media server COOL!! can save up for RMVB player and get an HDMI player instead liao... This post has been edited by ckboon: Mar 28 2011, 12:38 AM |
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2011 G/S/U series fullHD plasmaTV specs comparison, I know these are from UK, are we getting the same series?
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QUOTE(panafone @ Mar 28 2011, 05:30 PM) takda pun |
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http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-t...01103191061.htm no top of the range v series for 2011 2D plasma This post has been edited by neb: Mar 28 2011, 06:43 PM |
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Mar 29 2011, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 28 2011, 12:03 AM) just grab a unit of 42v from joseph.. hi, can the DLNA access the rmvb files from my pc???can some teach me how to configure the unit to performance as it is? Added on March 28, 2011, 12:38 amwow ... the DLNA can play RMVB from the media server COOL!! can save up for RMVB player and get an HDMI player instead liao... |
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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 29 2011, 12:11 PM) i can!! but cannot use pause, fast forward/rewind... Dude, finally i understood how it works!!! the tv is actually streaming from the pc. The TV itself cannot read rmvb directly! please read this:tried to copy the rmvb to usb and 42v cant read it, but through LAN connection it's able to play http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05...-windows-7.aspx This post has been edited by bomberman: Mar 29 2011, 12:22 PM |
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hmm.... but not all files work that way, as there are some file that can be open on my PC but cannot be run on the TV.
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i'm sure pana user manual will say what media formats are supported.. it definately won't support ALL files that your PC plays..
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Mar 30 2011, 01:10 AM
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i wonder why still no latest model come out yet since the V series already discontinue? i survey some of electric shop they also said no stock already, waiting for latest model come out
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Mar 30 2011, 10:03 AM
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Maybe the supply chains got affected by the recent disasters in Japan?
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Mar 30 2011, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Mar 29 2011, 02:51 PM) i'm sure pana user manual will say what media formats are supported.. it definately won't support ALL files that your PC plays.. duh... read properlywe are talking about DLNA function, we all know panny dont support RMVB but running through DLNA enable me to watch it... that's where it come to place that i said " wonder why it cant read some of the file format". and the manual never said panny support RMVB |
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DLNA is definitely not easy to configure. I've tried for several weeks and in the end, gave up. I bought a media player with networking which is easy to use for the family and it can play almost all popular formats straight out of the box.
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my 50u20 is nearing 200 hours break-in. so can i configure the settings to what ever without worrying the IR issue? what is the best setting you guys have set / advice?
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Mar 30 2011, 08:37 PM) my 50u20 is nearing 200 hours break-in. so can i configure the settings to what ever without worrying the break-in issue? what is the best setting you guys have set / advice? My 50u is >10 months now.Game Mode Contrast 50 to 55 Brightness -3 to 2 Color 45 Sharpness 45 (If FHD movies, may lower to 30) Color Balance - Cool Vivid Color / Eco Mode / P-NR - All OFF Do not like Dynamic due to too bright. True Cinema Mode too yellowish since cannot set Color Balance via remote. |
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vincentboleh, you mean all the while you are using game mode for everything (movie + game). i noticed under game mode we can't adjust anything to fill up the whole screen there's black bar at the side. no problem kah?
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bro anfield posted some settings awhile ago for U20K.
if i still remember, his recommended setting is True cinema, contrast 70, colour 50-51, brightness 0, CATS off, sharpness all the way down to 0. of course if u can ask him to do proper calibration, that would be better than these settings. |
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Mar 30 2011, 11:34 PM) vincentboleh, you mean all the while you are using game mode for everything (movie + game). i noticed under game mode we can't adjust anything to fill up the whole screen there's black bar at the side. no problem kah? My TV default aspect is 16:9 via dynamic mode and you cannot select aspec when in Game Mode. I do not notice any black bar???I do not use TV for games, only for Astro (non-Beyond), Bluray Player & Media Player. I love this setting but it really depends on your own liking. Why not try Anfieldude's recommended setting on True Cinema Mode (Contrast 70, colour 50-51, brightness 0, CATS off, sharpness all the way down to 0) and let us know your view here. I commented on this setting where Picture is yellowish and color went back to the sixties and the dude iterated that it is up to one's liking. Only owners of this TV and eyes of the beholder can tell more................. |
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QUOTE(vincentboleh @ Mar 31 2011, 10:00 AM) My TV default aspect is 16:9 via dynamic mode and you cannot select aspec when in Game Mode. I do not notice any black bar??? vincent,I do not use TV for games, only for Astro (non-Beyond), Bluray Player & Media Player. I love this setting but it really depends on your own liking. Why not try Anfieldude's recommended setting on True Cinema Mode (Contrast 70, colour 50-51, brightness 0, CATS off, sharpness all the way down to 0) and let us know your view here. I commented on this setting where Picture is yellowish and color went back to the sixties and the dude iterated that it is up to one's liking. Only owners of this TV and eyes of the beholder can tell more................. The true cinema mode has the most accurate colours. The greyscale however is not perfect. Nor is it in any mode. Its most accurate in true cinema mode. To correct the yellowish tint u would need to go into the service menu and adjust white balance to further improve. Dynamic mode has a colour temperature of about 10K. This means that the whites are really blue tinted. Cinema (Warm) is close to 6500K, TrueCinema is closest to 6500K BTW, the 60s was known for green tinted. The True Cinema shd not send the colour to the sixties era as its the most accurate. Anything else has a wide gamut colour that is really not close to reference. Sharpness is a mix bag. If u view only HD material, I would suggest anywhere from 0 - 20. If u watch a lot of SD stuff, then u would need to bump up the sharpness to above 30 - 50. There is reference and there is preference. My comment was that if u want to bring ur display close to reference use TrueCinema, if u do not like it, its ur display, u can select whatever u feel u like. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2011, 03:18 PM) vincent, anfieldude,The true cinema mode has the most accurate colours. The greyscale however is not perfect. Nor is it in any mode. Its most accurate in true cinema mode. To correct the yellowish tint u would need to go into the service menu and adjust white balance to further improve. Dynamic mode has a colour temperature of about 10K. This means that the whites are really blue tinted. Cinema (Warm) is close to 6500K, TrueCinema is closest to 6500K BTW, the 60s was known for green tinted. The True Cinema shd not send the colour to the sixties era as its the most accurate. Anything else has a wide gamut colour that is really not close to reference. Sharpness is a mix bag. If u view only HD material, I would suggest anywhere from 0 - 20. If u watch a lot of SD stuff, then u would need to bump up the sharpness to above 30 - 50. There is reference and there is preference. My comment was that if u want to bring ur display close to reference use TrueCinema, if u do not like it, its ur display, u can select whatever u feel u like. Need your help to clarify. Suppose I set True Cinema & Normal with the same settings (the settings available in the Menu), will the PQ be the same ? From what I gather from reading this, even with the same menu settings, the PQ will be different as the settings (not available to the lay-person) have been pre-set at the factory and they are different. Right ? Thanks. |
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 1 2011, 06:16 PM) anfieldude, They will be different. Need your help to clarify. Suppose I set True Cinema & Normal with the same settings (the settings available in the Menu), will the PQ be the same ? From what I gather from reading this, even with the same menu settings, the PQ will be different as the settings (not available to the lay-person) have been pre-set at the factory and they are different. Right ? Thanks. There is some hardcoding of white balance/gamma and colour settings done for each setting. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2011, 03:18 PM) vincent, absolutely agree with AD .i love true cinema mode the most whenever i watch hollywood movies and just set ithe contrast higher if one prefer more 'color pop' effect .The true cinema mode has the most accurate colours. The greyscale however is not perfect. Nor is it in any mode. Its most accurate in true cinema mode. To correct the yellowish tint u would need to go into the service menu and adjust white balance to further improve. Dynamic mode has a colour temperature of about 10K. This means that the whites are really blue tinted. Cinema (Warm) is close to 6500K, TrueCinema is closest to 6500K BTW, the 60s was known for green tinted. The True Cinema shd not send the colour to the sixties era as its the most accurate. Anything else has a wide gamut colour that is really not close to reference. Sharpness is a mix bag. If u view only HD material, I would suggest anywhere from 0 - 20. If u watch a lot of SD stuff, then u would need to bump up the sharpness to above 30 - 50. There is reference and there is preference. My comment was that if u want to bring ur display close to reference use TrueCinema, if u do not like it, its ur display, u can select whatever u feel u like. cinema mode is brighter by default and for all types of source and feed ,it is most suitable as i believe it is a all rounder i have so often played with the modes and setting and getting really tired and finally settled for true cinema mode . gamma at 2.2 is appropriate during day watching and gamma at 2.4 really nice on controlled lighting although you will lose shadow detail but black levels is more impressive . hope panny will one day come out with more options such as with 2.3 and 2.35 gamma. This post has been edited by sunnyK: Apr 1 2011, 09:46 PM |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2011, 03:18 PM) vincent, i like this statement. The true cinema mode has the most accurate colours. The greyscale however is not perfect. Nor is it in any mode. Its most accurate in true cinema mode. To correct the yellowish tint u would need to go into the service menu and adjust white balance to further improve. Dynamic mode has a colour temperature of about 10K. This means that the whites are really blue tinted. Cinema (Warm) is close to 6500K, TrueCinema is closest to 6500K BTW, the 60s was known for green tinted. The True Cinema shd not send the colour to the sixties era as its the most accurate. Anything else has a wide gamut colour that is really not close to reference. Sharpness is a mix bag. If u view only HD material, I would suggest anywhere from 0 - 20. If u watch a lot of SD stuff, then u would need to bump up the sharpness to above 30 - 50. There is reference and there is preference. My comment was that if u want to bring ur display close to reference use TrueCinema, if u do not like it, its ur display, u can select whatever u feel u like. |
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Finally, the new product launching
QUOTE Held in the Grand Ballroom of the Genting International Convention Centre yesterday, Panasonic unveiled the expanded range of its VIERA Plasma, LED and LCD TVs for 2011 at the Panasonic Sales Convention 2011. In total, Panasonic launched 16 TVs, nine new Plasma models ranging from 42- to 64-inches, four LED LCD models and three LCD models with varying sizes from 32- to 42-inches. http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/news/view.php?id=18771&cid=5 |
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Apr 2 2011, 06:19 PM
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More interesting are the RRP for 2011 series:
3D Plasma P65VT30K To be confirmed P50VT30K To be confirmed P55ST30K To be confirmed P50ST30k To be confirmed P42UT30K To be confirmed 2D Plasma P50U30K RM4,499 P50X30K RM3,799 P42U30K RM2,299 P42X30K RM1,999 No Plasma S or G series (2D)?? 3D LED/LCD L37DT30K To be confirmed 2D LED/LCD L42E30K (LED) To be confirmed L42E3K (LED) RM3,099 L42U30K RM2,199 L32X30K (LED) RM1,999 L32C30K RM1,299 L32C3K RM1,199 |
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sorry, which one is the equivalent or a step-up model for the famous V20 series?
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 2 2011, 06:19 PM) More interesting are the RRP for 2011 series: Wow... if this is the finalized list, then there is a problem.3D Plasma P65VT30K To be confirmed P50VT30K To be confirmed P55ST30K To be confirmed P50ST30k To be confirmed P42UT30K To be confirmed 2D Plasma P50U30K RM4,499 P50X30K RM3,799 P42U30K RM2,299 P42X30K RM1,999 No Plasma S or G series (2D)?? 3D LED/LCD L37DT30K To be confirmed 2D LED/LCD L42E30K (LED) To be confirmed L42E3K (LED) RM3,099 L42U30K RM2,199 L32X30K (LED) RM1,999 L32C30K RM1,299 L32C3K RM1,199 No G and GT series. So no equivalent V series. Good thing is the RRP is pretty decent to start with. Street prices will be close to last years end of the year pricing in 2-3months. |
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so, between the U n X model which one is a better spec then the current V spec?
edited..found out here : http://motorsportchannel.com/web/2011/0331/1262.html tks.. This post has been edited by numbertwo: Apr 2 2011, 06:59 PM |
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very dissapointed there are no 55" for the VT30 series and the GT30 totally dissapear. WTH panasonic malaysia
their marketing strategies sux big time as they either go for high profit margin VT30 series or look down on us malaysian by giving us low end ST30 series |
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there's a clearance sale for the outgoing V series at this weekend's Perfect Living at PWTC. The 50in VT20 is going for RM6699 with 2 3d glasses, 3d bluray player and 3x 3d bluray movies. For lower end series the 50U30k is going for RM3999.
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Apr 3 2011, 04:32 AM) there's a clearance sale for the outgoing V series at this weekend's Perfect Living at PWTC. The 50in VT20 is going for RM6699 with 2 3d glasses, 3d bluray player and 3x 3d bluray movies. For lower end series the 50U30k is going for RM3999. Might as well buy from outside shops then. The 50VT is now selling for RM6.5k and the 50U is selling for RM3.5k. |
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Apr 2 2011, 07:10 PM) very dissapointed there are no 55" for the VT30 series and the GT30 totally dissapear. WTH panasonic malaysia I believe its an Asian wide strategy and not only Panasonic Malaysia.their marketing strategies sux big time as they either go for high profit margin VT30 series or look down on us malaysian by giving us low end ST30 series |
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really? where to get at those prices?
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 3 2011, 09:04 AM) Might as well buy from outside shops then. The 50VT is now selling for RM6.5k and the 50U is selling for RM3.5k. Your 50U is 20K (2010 version) and not 30K.Edit: It seems like Panny Malaysia is pushing the entry level 2D and 3D. This probably reflects on the HD content maturity in Asia at the moment. Well, as long as the price is still fair and in line with entry level, there's not much to dwell on. This post has been edited by PoorMan: Apr 3 2011, 11:26 AM |
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no more highend 2D plasma eh? lucky I got my V before stock runs out.
but could it be that 3D plasma price has gotten so low that it doesnt make sense to sell highend 2D plasma which price is only slightly less than its 3D equivalent? |
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Apr 3 2011, 10:34 PM
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Perfect Living at PWTC selling the new PANA LED L42E3k for Rm2799
but it is lower spec than previous L42D25, dunno when the higher spec L42E30K 120HZ LED launch in Malaysia? |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2011, 03:18 PM) vincent, According to the selection there is only cinema, thx, game, photo, dynamic, normal... what is trucinema?The true cinema mode has the most accurate colours. The greyscale however is not perfect. Nor is it in any mode. Its most accurate in true cinema mode. To correct the yellowish tint u would need to go into the service menu and adjust white balance to further improve. Dynamic mode has a colour temperature of about 10K. This means that the whites are really blue tinted. Cinema (Warm) is close to 6500K, TrueCinema is closest to 6500K BTW, the 60s was known for green tinted. The True Cinema shd not send the colour to the sixties era as its the most accurate. Anything else has a wide gamut colour that is really not close to reference. Sharpness is a mix bag. If u view only HD material, I would suggest anywhere from 0 - 20. If u watch a lot of SD stuff, then u would need to bump up the sharpness to above 30 - 50. There is reference and there is preference. My comment was that if u want to bring ur display close to reference use TrueCinema, if u do not like it, its ur display, u can select whatever u feel u like. |
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 3 2011, 10:45 AM) Your 50U is 20K (2010 version) and not 30K. Yea it's 50U20K, coz DannyOp is referring to the older range mah.Edit: It seems like Panny Malaysia is pushing the entry level 2D and 3D. This probably reflects on the HD content maturity in Asia at the moment. Well, as long as the price is still fair and in line with entry level, there's not much to dwell on. Added on April 4, 2011, 9:39 am QUOTE(DannyOP @ Apr 3 2011, 10:22 AM) Go to those Panasonic authorized dealers. I found two in Klang and another one in Cheras that offered me those prices.This post has been edited by tankiasu: Apr 4 2011, 09:39 AM |
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It looks like the 2011 models have "True Cinema" included in the entry level models as well (C series plasmas, X is higher level and I am inferring that it will have the TrueCinema mode as well)
This would mean that the colour gamut (colour points) will at last be accurate for entry level Panasonics. Also the gamma in TrueCinema mode is closer to 2.1 vs 1.8 in other modes for the entry level models. I think this is a step forward. The entry level plasma prices are very competitive and is a crowded place now. Samsungs and LGs entry level models which are similarly priced as the Panasonic models are now forcing Panasonic to include some form of accurate mode in its entry level models that are great in my opinion. I saw the Samsung D490 and D550 series. I did not have a chance to play with the remote but they almost always have a Cinema mode and a decent colour gamut in the past. |
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I recently sold of my 50" B450 sammy plasma and bought a V20 as a replacement and the difference i could tell is like heaven and earth , although i don't know for sure if the latest plamas from sammy have make improvements . the black levels,color accuracy and reproduction plus other loads of features of the V are so impressive especially if view in controlled lighting . it make me believe if one could afford a better high end TV then go for it. to me its worth the money to buy high or higher end models as we will find other ways to waste our money anyway
i recently check out the latest i think ,43" D451 sammys and i can tell the build quality could even have drop. glad to know from AD there will be a True Cinema mode and hope the pannys low-end build quality would be better than last year. it takes a little while to get use to True Cinema or THX mode and some may not like it at all as it is too dark for many but once got use to it , it's the best mode to watch movies under dim lights. |
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 4 2011, 09:51 AM) Yea I did noticed he typed 50U30K but I'm also aware that he was referring to the Panasonic booth at Perfect Livin. So I believe he was actually talking about the clearance of the outgoing models, not the new 2011 U series.Added on April 4, 2011, 12:14 pmWhen do u all think we'll be able to see those new 2011 models at Panasonic shops ya? Can't wait to check them out and see whether they are worth buying or not. Slurp! This post has been edited by tankiasu: Apr 4 2011, 12:14 PM |
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After months of research and reading V1 and V2 threads, I almost given up looking for Panasonic Plasma since P50V20K out of stocks... until Joseph made an offer of TH-P50VT20K together with HT System (without 3D player and specs), i just took it right away
I recomend serious buyers to contact iamsobloodysick (Joseph) if you are interested with Panasonic Plasma as he can workaround with your budget... now.. enjoying everybit and learning VT20 features.... This post has been edited by tsgold: Apr 4 2011, 12:25 PM |
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QUOTE(tsgold @ Apr 4 2011, 12:24 PM) After months of research and reading V1 and V2 threads, I almost given up looking for Panasonic Plasma since P50V20K out of stocks... until Joseph made an offer of TH-P50VT20K together with HT System (without 3D player and specs), i just took it right away How's the quality of this VT20 as compared to the V20? I was looking for V20 too, but now considering VT20 instead since can get bug discount.I recomend serious buyers to contact iamsobloodysick (Joseph) if you are interested with Panasonic Plasma as he can workaround with your budget... now.. enjoying everybit and learning VT20 features.... |
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anybody know if the TH-P42GT20K comes with Avatar 3D blu ray?
i tried asking a seller in garage sales but he said his model only comes with Ice Age, Coraline and a demo disc my uncle just bought the 50" model(last week) and it came free with Avatar 3D blu ray...and to my knowledge this BD is solely to be distributed with Panasonic 3DTVs/3D Bluray players..(at least for now,anyway) |
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 4 2011, 05:33 PM) anybody know if the TH-P42GT20K comes with Avatar 3D blu ray? If you buy it from a Panny authorized dealer, it should come with the Avater 3D blu ray.i tried asking a seller in garage sales but he said his model only comes with Ice Age, Coraline and a demo disc my uncle just bought the 50" model(last week) and it came free with Avatar 3D blu ray...and to my knowledge this BD is solely to be distributed with Panasonic 3DTVs/3D Bluray players..(at least for now,anyway) |
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QUOTE(gdee @ Apr 4 2011, 05:36 PM) he says his company has been distributing panasonic products for the past 30 years,definitely an authorised dealer...but still dont wanna buy then when meet up,turns out it's not there |
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I know this is rather late.
I go watch side by side: Plasma 42v20 set to Dynamic LED 42 set to Cinema And I find that plasma have real black while LED have chocolate color tint to it. Conclusion: who needs a conclusion anyway since we know Plasma is the best..lollololol |
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the Avatar 3D bluray does fetch a very high price at ebay
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any big difference between Infinite Black Pro and just Infinite Black?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 5 2011, 09:41 AM) ahh.. idoblu is considering the VT..Infinite Black Pro vs Infinite Black info |
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TH-P50V20K is it a 3d model?
within rm 2.5k whats the panasonic plasma/led/lcd i can get now? |
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Apr 5 2011, 02:29 PM) No 50V20K is a 2D model. The 3D model is 50VT20K.For RM2.5k I would recommend you to go for TH-P42V20K. I think it should be about RM2.3k now since they are clearing all 2010 models. |
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no more cheap stocks for 42'' and 50" V20
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 4 2011, 05:31 PM) How's the quality of this VT20 as compared to the V20? I was looking for V20 too, but now considering VT20 instead since can get bug discount. i find the VT quality better to V series. I was able to witness smooth difference between V and VT series when they played some move samples. |
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QUOTE(tsgold @ Apr 5 2011, 05:17 PM) i find the VT quality better to V series. I was able to witness smooth difference between V and VT series when they played some move samples. Can you ask them to remove all those freebies like 3D glasses, 3D Bluray etc? If you do, the price differences will be even less. |
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QUOTE(tsgold @ Apr 5 2011, 05:17 PM) i find the VT quality better to V series. I was able to witness smooth difference between V and VT series when they played some move samples. If that's the case then RM6.5k is a very good deal right? With that RM1.5k extra u get a Bluray player, and 3D function. Somemore you said the picture quality is better than V20K. |
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 4 2011, 06:33 PM) anybody know if the TH-P42GT20K comes with Avatar 3D blu ray? my fren bought this model at MV best denki and YES they giving 3D avatar...i tried asking a seller in garage sales but he said his model only comes with Ice Age, Coraline and a demo disc my uncle just bought the 50" model(last week) and it came free with Avatar 3D blu ray...and to my knowledge this BD is solely to be distributed with Panasonic 3DTVs/3D Bluray players..(at least for now,anyway) |
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Apr 6 2011, 11:08 AM
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the below links rated vt20=90.6 and samsung PN50C8000=94.5
http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html Is that true that Pana picture quality and performance are bad compared to Samsung series 8? |
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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 11:08 AM) the below links rated vt20=90.6 and samsung PN50C8000=94.5 its true. Samsung has improve leap and bound from Panasonic. Furthermore, Panasonic are bogged down by http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html Is that true that Pana picture quality and performance are bad compared to Samsung series 8? rising black issue. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 11:19 AM) its true. Samsung has improve leap and bound from Panasonic. Furthermore, Panasonic are bogged down by The samsungs have their own sets of problem. To watch 24p without pulldown (ie refeshing in multiples of 24Hz), u would need to enable Cinema Smooth, but that increases black levels quite a bit. The black levels are better on the larger panels only and there is some spatial processing that cannot be turned off, so its not as natural. The greyscales are quite similar, something is not quite right on the calibration done by the guys at the links provided as even I can calibrate the V20/VT20 with much lower DeltaE1976 values. They don't show gamma values, but I think Samsung does it slightly better.rising black issue. Also for the V/VT even with the black level rises, the blacks will be better on the Panasonics. The ANSI contrasts shd make a difference. Samsungs suffer line bleed quite a bit worse, the pannys slightly better. Both don't dither as much, so banding is present on both. Motion issues both have their issues, panny's 50Hz maybe slightly worse . Sammy sets have worse image retention. No display is perfect, samsung has made some improvements, but there is still room. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 11:19 AM) its true. Samsung has improve leap and bound from Panasonic. Furthermore, Panasonic are bogged down by from what i've gathered so far, the site does seem to favor everything samsungs.rising black issue. so people are suggesting to take their reviews with a pinch of salt. it's somewhat biased. |
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 6 2011, 12:36 PM) Some prefer vivid color and others natural color. I find Samsung's color more vivid and Panasonic's more natural. but the links showed Samsung is more natural and Panasonic is over saturated, there were visible motion artifacts, flicker and judder effects as well. http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html |
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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 01:55 PM) but the links showed Samsung is more natural and Panasonic is over saturated, there were visible motion artifacts, flicker and judder effects as well. Trust me on this, the sammys have their fair share of problems... If it bothers u so much, sell the VT and get the C8000.http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html |
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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 01:55 PM) but the links showed Samsung is more natural and Panasonic is over saturated, there were visible motion artifacts, flicker and judder effects as well. I am paying with my own money so I picked what my eyes picked. I especially like the color 'red' on Panasonic.http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html |
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Apr 6 2011, 02:31 PM
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hi,
Was wondering whether you guys know if there are any more 50V20k still available in the market? |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 02:15 PM) there is cartoon type of red and natural red as in flower red. That is why kids like cartoon because their color is always deliberately made much more attractive. But we all know cartoon are not real or natural. Try this. Go look at real red flower and then go watch it on a Sony and you may know what i meant. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 02:15 PM) Red can be defined in the CIE chart. Both the pannys and samsungs get red decently accurate post calibration. In actual cases if anything samsungs are slightly undersaturated. However, I doubt it would be noticeable. |
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:30 PM) there is cartoon type of red and natural red as in flower red. That is why kids like cartoon because their color is always deliberately made much more attractive. But we all know cartoon are not real or natural. Try this. Go look at real red flower and then go watch it on a Sony and you may know what i meant. i was watching Panasonic Plasma and Panasonic LED. Both same source showing a truck.On plasma, I see dark blood red (dark red) - setting is dynamic. While LED show dramatic red (setting is Cinema). The problem is, I dunno the real red of the truck is which one. I tend to believe the real red is bright red eventhough I might be wrong. Here is the LED version: Here is the Plasma version: ![]() Problem is, which one is real? That time is bright daylight outdoor movie. QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 6 2011, 03:40 PM) Red can be defined in the CIE chart. Both the pannys and samsungs get red decently accurate post calibration. In actual cases if anything samsungs are slightly undersaturated. However, I doubt it would be noticeable. oh, means Pana is more colorful.This post has been edited by gogo2: Apr 6 2011, 03:48 PM |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:48 PM) i was watching Panasonic Plasma and Panasonic LED. Both same source showing a truck. the only way to know which is correct is to have actually seen the real truck. Only by having seen the real thing can you know which TV is displaying the color correctly. And we have no way of doing that. That is why i use human skin tone and red flower as reference because we see those everyday. IMO Sony have one of the worst red because they are so unreal to my eyes.On plasma, I see dark blood red (dark red) - setting is dynamic. While LED show dramatic red (setting is Cinema). The problem is, I dunno the real red of the truck is which one. I tend to believe the real red is bright red eventhough I might be wrong. Here is the LED version: Here is the Plasma version: ![]() Problem is, which one is real? That time is bright daylight outdoor movie. oh, means Pana is more colorful. |
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:17 PM) the only way to know which is correct is to have actually seen the real truck. Only by having seen the real thing can you know which TV is displaying the color correctly. And we have no way of doing that. That is why i use human skin tone and red flower as reference because we see those everyday. IMO Sony have one of the worst red because they are so unreal to my eyes. its not a confirmation also. How you know if the tone is correct for that specific person or flower? maybe its very red leh? |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:27 PM) its not a confirmation also. How you know if the tone is correct for that specific person or flower? maybe its very red leh? Why so troublesome? Some shops have connect their TV to camera that shoot specific location of their shop. Take those oppotuanity to test your skin tone lah. Compared your skin colour with the colour of your skin in the TV. This post has been edited by low98944: Apr 6 2011, 04:35 PM |
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:34 PM) Why so troublesome? Some shops have connect their TV to camera that shoot specific location of their shop. Take those oppotuanity to test your skin tone lah. Compared your skin colour with the colour of your skin in the TV. not all shop do that ler... hehe...Added on April 6, 2011, 4:46 pmalso, if I see the camera, I'll go calibrate that camera first just in case its not the camera processing problem This post has been edited by gogo2: Apr 6 2011, 04:46 PM |
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:17 PM) the only way to know which is correct is to have actually seen the real truck. Only by having seen the real thing can you know which TV is displaying the color correctly. And we have no way of doing that. That is why i use human skin tone and red flower as reference because we see those everyday. IMO Sony have one of the worst red because they are so unreal to my eyes. we actually do. in the form of colorimeter.plasma or led or lcd or projector have to be calibrated to get good result, to make it display the colors as close to how the video are shot at. my plasma looks horrible with the standard settings. be it in any mode. i'm telling my friends if they don't wanna tweak the settings get an LED because that looks better out of the box. |
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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 6 2011, 05:43 PM) we actually do. in the form of colorimeter. Everyone have their own preference colour. You can expect everyone like the same colour tone.plasma or led or lcd or projector have to be calibrated to get good result, to make it display the colors as close to how the video are shot at. my plasma looks horrible with the standard settings. be it in any mode. i'm telling my friends if they don't wanna tweak the settings get an LED because that looks better out of the box. |
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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 01:55 PM) but the links showed Samsung is more natural and Panasonic is over saturated, there were visible motion artifacts, flicker and judder effects as well. To be frank, both are flagships and both are plasmas. I would think the PQ differences would not be that significant. If it is so one-sided, there won't be fans for the other camp. The remaining factor would be reliability, after-sales service and price/performance.http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html Since I post here often, my preference is obvious. Enough of my personal friends who has owned Samsung LCDs/LEDs has convinced me not to buy Samsung. Go ask around for more real world feedback instead of solely relying on just PQ and technicalities alone. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:27 PM) its not a confirmation also. How you know if the tone is correct for that specific person or flower? maybe its very red leh? if you want to split hair then you have to spend lots me money to buy professional color measuring equipment. You want to do that? If not and you still can not roughly tell what skin tone are supposed to look like then are you sure you want to buy expensive TV because it looks like wasting money. Just buy one with the sharpness picture and ignore the color or whatever that make you happy.This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Apr 6 2011, 09:50 PM |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:48 PM) i was watching Panasonic Plasma and Panasonic LED. Both same source showing a truck. wah...bro, same sources? On plasma, I see dark blood red (dark red) - setting is dynamic. While LED show dramatic red (setting is Cinema). The problem is, I dunno the real red of the truck is which one. I tend to believe the real red is bright red eventhough I might be wrong. Here is the LED version: Here is the Plasma version: ![]() Problem is, which one is real? That time is bright daylight outdoor movie. oh, means Pana is more colorful. misleading ppl to fall in trap.... the car model also different, sure the color shade and density are different. for me both also real, the first car is clean and yellowish shade red, the second is dirty and bluish shade red ha... This post has been edited by xenon99: Apr 6 2011, 11:30 PM |
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QUOTE(xenon99 @ Apr 6 2011, 11:26 PM) wah...bro, same sources? aiya example la... the color is what I see side by side comparison yomisleading ppl to fall in trap.... the car model also different, sure the color shade and density are different. for me both also real, the first car is clean and yellowish shade red, the second is dirty and bluish shade red ha... |
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Hi,
I own a p42x28k plasma tv and recently I'm seeing a green horizontal line going across the screen about a third of the way from the bottom. It's not very apparent normally, but in darker scenes, you can see it clearly. I'm callling Panasonic's customer service tomorrow as it's not even a year old yet, so it's still within the warranty period. Hopefully it's nothing major. Has anyone else encountered this? |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:48 PM) i was watching Panasonic Plasma and Panasonic LED. Both same source showing a truck. These 2 are totally different truck so different color.On plasma, I see dark blood red (dark red) - setting is dynamic. While LED show dramatic red (setting is Cinema). The problem is, I dunno the real red of the truck is which one. I tend to believe the real red is bright red eventhough I might be wrong. Here is the LED version: Here is the Plasma version: ![]() Problem is, which one is real? That time is bright daylight outdoor movie. oh, means Pana is more colorful. |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 08:48 AM) You should find a better example. You shouldn't even consider using an example of an orange and an apple.Added on April 7, 2011, 9:54 am QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 6 2011, 05:43 PM) we actually do. in the form of colorimeter. Drawing from my times with Hi Fi, there are 2 types of people.plasma or led or lcd or projector have to be calibrated to get good result, to make it display the colors as close to how the video are shot at. my plasma looks horrible with the standard settings. be it in any mode. i'm telling my friends if they don't wanna tweak the settings get an LED because that looks better out of the box. One type would want the reproduction of sound (or picture) to be as close to the original as possible. These people mostly went for Solid State amplifier. The other type couldn't care less whether the reproduced sound (or picture) is close to the original or not as long as it sounded nice. They wanted the sound to be 'nicer' than the original, sugar coated so to speak. These people mostly went for tube amplifier with it's characteristic euphoric sound on vocal. Therefore, if a person like vivid (less natural color), that's his business. For me, I learn toward more natural color or whatever color I like (and that's why I am not thinking of calibration for now) This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Apr 7 2011, 09:54 AM |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 09:54 AM) ok, I rest my case. I place the picture to show u the different color. Not the model of the truck idiot. And this is coming from a person who think good sound means merely being loud. I suppose you like listening to jack hammer? You sure have funny taste.http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1822476 |
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:02 AM) And this is coming from a person who think good sound means merely being loud. I suppose you like listening to jack hammer? You sure have funny taste. i merely replying to the topic in hand. So?http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1822476 |
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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 11:08 AM) the below links rated vt20=90.6 and samsung PN50C8000=94.5 Panansonic VT25 Series Posthttp://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html Is that true that Pana picture quality and performance are bad compared to Samsung series 8? Picture Mode: Custom Contrast +85 Brightness +72 Color +48 Tint 0 Sharpness 0 Color Temp WARM2 that reviewer calibration is totally unbelievable with brightness at +72 . that will totally crushed black levels and unwatchable |
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 09:13 AM) true la...haha... i said adui because its just few post back that I said its just example of color differences between LED then better to just leave it at that bro. no point in arguing with othersand plasma. Its not real pix I take from the shop. a waste of time to type for the sake of it. better fire up your movie setup and go watch something. heck even taking a nap is better than arguing on the net. |
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 7 2011, 09:45 AM) Therefore, if a person like vivid (less natural color), that's his business. For me, I learn toward more natural color or whatever color I like (and that's why I am not thinking of calibration for now) Irrespective of color, a good storyline, directing and acting are core essentials of a good movie and trust a FHD Panasonic Plasma of 2010 generations (and beyond) should do a good job in displaying FHD qualities. No fuss on those so call best / infinite Black Level as many of us do not watch TV with lights switch off (or in a dark room) to avoid eyes fatigue; do understand young people love this habit (not referring to those on projector). |
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Just got my v20.
can someone tell me the setting that recommended to use during breaking period?? my first plasma |
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QUOTE(onewan @ Apr 7 2011, 04:14 PM) Just got my v20. You can check my setting here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1825421 can someone tell me the setting that recommended to use during breaking period?? my first plasma I took me around 9days to do the controlled break-in |
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 5 2011, 05:28 PM) Can you ask them to remove all those freebies like 3D glasses, 3D Bluray etc? If you do, the price differences will be even less. Actually i did not opt any 3D stuffs as I purchase 50VT20 with Panasonic HT System. when they arrived i was suprised that the TV itself come together with 1free 3D glasses may plan to by 3D player in future but not that soon Added on April 8, 2011, 3:57 am QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 5 2011, 06:44 PM) If that's the case then RM6.5k is a very good deal right? With that RM1.5k extra u get a Bluray player, and 3D function. Somemore you said the picture quality is better than V20K. Bro you may be right but then you will need to listen sound from TV.. maybe it's me alone but i opt for HT system...basically your choise Added on April 8, 2011, 4:02 amfor those who plan to buy 50VT20, i suggest you read below article for beginers http://munchoong.livejournal.com/232257.html I had trouble figuring out how to slow down the motion as it looks everything running super fast. only once I disable Intelligence Frame Creation option, I notice difference and prefer this mode turn off.. This post has been edited by tsgold: Apr 8 2011, 04:02 AM |
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Should I go for 3 years extended warranty for VT20?
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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 8 2011, 04:13 PM) i think it standard..maybe u can try ask another Panny dealer.or try call Panasonic customer care line or refer here http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/Contents/M...asp?ContId=2550 This post has been edited by onewan: Apr 8 2011, 04:30 PM |
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Penang still got stock on 42v20k. I wonder if its still a good buy at RM2,500 seeing a many new 3D display.
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Had the 50vt20a for like a week already, very impressed with it so far. Anyone knows where can I get the extra 3D glasses and how much?
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vt20a is Oz model
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Guys,
I just purchased a brand new L42U29K from carrefour. But when I check the on duration and turn on count, it just disappointed me. It read 2431 and count 334. Is it suppose to be like this? Or should i return back the unit to Carefour? Any idea on how i should deal with this? |
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QUOTE(friexs @ Apr 10 2011, 02:38 PM) Guys, Seem like already used. Possible is display unit. Have their told you this unit is used/display unit? If not, definitely can send back to them for exchange new unit. Prove to their this is used unit.I just purchased a brand new L42U29K from carrefour. But when I check the on duration and turn on count, it just disappointed me. It read 2431 and count 334. Is it suppose to be like this? Or should i return back the unit to Carefour? Any idea on how i should deal with this? |
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QUOTE(friexs @ Apr 10 2011, 02:38 PM) Guys, Did Carrefour offer it at a much cheaper price than market and upfront tell you that it's a used unit? If not, then I think you should return it.I just purchased a brand new L42U29K from carrefour. But when I check the on duration and turn on count, it just disappointed me. It read 2431 and count 334. Is it suppose to be like this? Or should i return back the unit to Carefour? Any idea on how i should deal with this? |
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well, the price is quite attractive compare to other supermarket, does rm1729 sound good or to good to be true? its 42 inch FHD LCD TV. pls advice
Added on April 10, 2011, 7:52 pmbut, carrefour didnt tell anything about the unit condition. the salesperson didnt mention anything about the unit condition. Just assuming it suppose to be a brand new from store. Just hoping that i can exchange it under 7 day return policy. if else, i duno, maybe amuk. This post has been edited by friexs: Apr 10 2011, 07:52 PM |
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QUOTE(friexs @ Apr 10 2011, 07:42 PM) well, the price is quite attractive compare to other supermarket, does rm1729 sound good or to good to be true? its 42 inch FHD LCD TV. pls advice It's slightly cheaper but not that much. I heard it's about RM2,000+ elsewhere. Anyway, your set with 2,400+ hours is close to probably one year usage. Definitely, you should return it and get a new unit.Added on April 10, 2011, 7:52 pmbut, carrefour didnt tell anything about the unit condition. the salesperson didnt mention anything about the unit condition. Just assuming it suppose to be a brand new from store. Just hoping that i can exchange it under 7 day return policy. if else, i duno, maybe amuk. |
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 10 2011, 09:27 PM) It's slightly cheaper but not that much. I heard it's about RM2,000+ elsewhere. Anyway, your set with 2,400+ hours is close to probably one year usage. Definitely, you should return it and get a new unit. At 2000+ hours, tell them it should be sold at 1/2 price. Either they sell you at that price or you write to newspaper saying you are sold used goods as brand new. A win-win situation. |
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it must be a demo set. the buyer should be aware of it. 2400hrs has seen lots of running
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QUOTE(friexs @ Apr 10 2011, 02:38 PM) Guys, how to check the duration?I just purchased a brand new L42U29K from carrefour. But when I check the on duration and turn on count, it just disappointed me. It read 2431 and count 334. Is it suppose to be like this? Or should i return back the unit to Carefour? Any idea on how i should deal with this? i also wanna check mine. all panasonic tv can check? |
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QUOTE(ckboon @ Apr 11 2011, 09:29 AM) Posted many times on the previous version of this thread. As per usual warning when accessing service menu, DO NOT CHANGE any settings while in the service menu unless you know what you are doing. I, sure as heck, don't! CODE # Hold down the {- V} button ON THE PLASMA TV itself. Not Remote # Press the {RECALL} button on the remote control 3 times. # Wait for the Service Menu to be displayed. # Press the {2} buttons on remote to select "SRV-TOOL" and press the {OK} button to access it. # HIGHLIGHT the box on the right side of the last option: (Navigate by using the arrow buttons on the remote) _______________________________________
# Press and hold the {MUTE} button on the remote for a few seconds. TIME = Hours and Minutes of Operation. COUNT = Times the Plasma was Powered On. # To exit, switch off TV using the {POWER} button on the TV. This post has been edited by PoorMan: Apr 11 2011, 10:20 AM |
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QUOTE(panafone @ Apr 7 2011, 01:14 AM) Hi, Just an update on my p42x28k problem. The guys from Panasonic came to my house last Friday and changed something on the TV. I'm not sure what it was as I was at work and my dad was the one who handled it. The TV was still under the 2-year warranty so it was FOC.I own a p42x28k plasma tv and recently I'm seeing a green horizontal line going across the screen about a third of the way from the bottom. It's not very apparent normally, but in darker scenes, you can see it clearly. I'm callling Panasonic's customer service tomorrow as it's not even a year old yet, so it's still within the warranty period. Hopefully it's nothing major. Has anyone else encountered this? Anyway, the TV's working great now. |
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when will the new batch be available. have not seen any new models as off yesterday.
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I've seen the X30 in HN and Denki in Mid Valley since last week.
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The 42X30K is going for RM1,999. I'm sure its better, but how much better, I can't really say for sure as I've never really paid detail attention to last year X20s. I looked at it briefly during my lunch break only. Dimension wise, it's not alot slimmer then the 2010 sets.
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Apr 11 2011, 08:39 AM) just back from carefour. ask the Panasonic salesperson, he said that they only sell a brand new. if used or display set, they will put it at one clearance corner. and carrefour agree to refund back my payment. tomorrow will be the day I return it. question, what is the best buy,value for money for 42inch LCD? as my viewing room is not dark and have direct outside light, not prefer Plasma.. haish, just dreaming to own a big LCD, suddenly kena return pulak. can anyone recommend me a brand? and each brand has their advantage/ disadvantage right? issit true LG, samsung, not a really good brand? care to share? |
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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 11 2011, 10:20 AM) Posted many times on the previous version of this thread. i am using 42v20kAs per usual warning when accessing service menu, DO NOT CHANGE any settings while in the service menu unless you know what you are doing. I, sure as heck, don't! CODE # Hold down the {- V} button ON THE PLASMA TV itself. Not Remote # Press the {RECALL} button on the remote control 3 times. # Wait for the Service Menu to be displayed. # Press the {2} buttons on remote to select "SRV-TOOL" and press the {OK} button to access it. # HIGHLIGHT the box on the right side of the last option: (Navigate by using the arrow buttons on the remote) _______________________________________
# Press and hold the {MUTE} button on the remote for a few seconds. TIME = Hours and Minutes of Operation. COUNT = Times the Plasma was Powered On. # To exit, switch off TV using the {POWER} button on the TV. tried the step, it never show time and count.. i manage to go to PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 HOLD MUTE and nothing happen.... am i doing something wrong? |
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I noticed that there is a buzzing sound whenever I switch sources or before a movie is played.. is it due to hdmi or sound interfearance? Very annoying sound especially from a supposedly good model.
I also noticed this noise in my LG plasma and have to switch off the tv speakers to eliminate the buzz. However I can't find any off switch for the Panasonic. If I put mute.. the sound is still there. Any ideas how to solve this or is it a problem with the plasma? Btw its brand new out of the box and not a display set. It's the 50in Vt20 series model. Besides this, the recommended option for picture is THX but the overall seems yellowish compared to other options. Wondering why thx uses white that is yellowish? How to further fine-tune it? This post has been edited by DannyOP: Apr 12 2011, 09:45 AM |
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Apr 12 2011, 09:42 AM) I noticed that there is a buzzing sound whenever I switch sources or before a movie is played.. is it due to hdmi or sound interfearance? Very annoying sound especially from a supposedly good model. Danny,I also noticed this noise in my LG plasma and have to switch off the tv speakers to eliminate the buzz. However I can't find any off switch for the Panasonic. If I put mute.. the sound is still there. Any ideas how to solve this or is it a problem with the plasma? Btw its brand new out of the box and not a display set. It's the 50in Vt20 series model. Besides this, the recommended option for picture is THX but the overall seems yellowish compared to other options. Wondering why thx uses white that is yellowish? How to further fine-tune it? Buzzing is normal from the plasma, does it buzz more during bright sequences? There are 2 kinds of buzzing, does the buzzing seem less if u move 2/3 feet to ur right and left? If yes, then there is an accoustic anomaly due to ur seating position and the room. If not, then check to see if intensity changes with the pciture contrast during different scenes. THX out of the box is pretty good but its slightly yellow cast. To get rid of this u need to calibrate. The THX modes target a gamma of 2 which is not ideal if u view in a dim environment. Calibrate the Pro modes that are more accurate. I will let u know when I in KL next. |
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Im using my notebook for media player so maybe the intensity is too high..nevertheless I only set it to cinema mode. I will be transferring a dedicated sigma media player to the room so hopefully this will be eliminated. It doesnt buzz when I use the bundled 3d bluray player.
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NIce im getting 1 soon~!
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Apr 12 2011, 09:42 AM) I noticed that there is a buzzing sound whenever I switch sources or before a movie is played.. is it due to hdmi or sound interfearance? Very annoying sound especially from a supposedly good model. I'm using this setting. A good setting for the break-in period as well. HERE Another thing i notice on the tv is the motion judder, anyone here notice it as well? It happens on fast moving scene, where i looks like it's lagging or something.I also noticed this noise in my LG plasma and have to switch off the tv speakers to eliminate the buzz. However I can't find any off switch for the Panasonic. If I put mute.. the sound is still there. Any ideas how to solve this or is it a problem with the plasma? Btw its brand new out of the box and not a display set. It's the 50in Vt20 series model. Besides this, the recommended option for picture is THX but the overall seems yellowish compared to other options. Wondering why thx uses white that is yellowish? How to further fine-tune it? QUOTE(neb @ Apr 12 2011, 02:03 PM) Nope i did not import it, i bought it here because im staying here. I bought it for around 1300 AUD which is around RM 4K, model 50vt20a.This post has been edited by perky: Apr 13 2011, 05:31 AM |
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QUOTE(perky @ Apr 13 2011, 05:30 AM) I'm using this setting. A good setting for the break-in period as well. HERE Another thing i notice on the tv is the motion judder, anyone here notice it as well? It happens on fast moving scene, where i looks like it's lagging or something. perky,Nope i did not import it, i bought it here because im staying here. I bought it for around 1300 AUD which is around RM 4K, model 50vt20a. Do u see the motion issues with OTA stuff? 50Hz material only I suppose? If yes, its a known issue. U need to get ur settings right to minimize it. I would suggest turning on IFC to minimum, the motion issues will reduce, but u will get other artefacts. U need to select the lesser of 2 evils. |
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hey guys,
what is the best tuning/setting/calibration for TH-P42V20k? need expert help here. This post has been edited by bomberman: Apr 13 2011, 01:59 PM |
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QUOTE(bomberman @ Apr 13 2011, 01:57 PM) I don't know much about calibration but how do you define "best"? Your environment is different from others. Their best setting not necessary your best setting. Recommend you to engage anfieldude to do calibration, if can.This post has been edited by low98944: Apr 13 2011, 02:18 PM |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 13 2011, 08:25 AM) perky, OTA as in FTA stuff? Yes mostly 50hz stuff. What settings do u use on urs? How about on blu ray playback? Do u turn off 24p smoothing?Do u see the motion issues with OTA stuff? 50Hz material only I suppose? If yes, its a known issue. U need to get ur settings right to minimize it. I would suggest turning on IFC to minimum, the motion issues will reduce, but u will get other artefacts. U need to select the lesser of 2 evils. |
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Any news or info on the latest Panny Plasma TV lineup and availability?
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QUOTE(perky @ Apr 13 2011, 09:32 PM) OTA as in FTA stuff? Yes mostly 50hz stuff. What settings do u use on urs? How about on blu ray playback? Do u turn off 24p smoothing? Yeah, its a known problem with 50Hz stuff. I do not own the display but hv calibrated quite a few. 24p smoothing shd be off for proper reproduction of 24p stuff without pulldown. |
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Hi....do u guys know where i can buy TH-P42V20 around KL with best price...
in lowyat forum...sold out already thanx... |
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TH-P50V20K still got stock or not?
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QUOTE(yangkwok @ Apr 15 2011, 08:30 AM) Not sure if this model still available as I was told Panasonic stop distributing since this is 2010 model. I guess they are keen to launch 2011 models.you may want to check with iamsobloodysick. He may give you good deal with other Panasonic model. Speaking from experience, Since This hard to find, I've got good offer for P50VT20 and took it right away. else you may want to wait for 2011 models..... |
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What happens if the Plasma is not properly run in? Will it damage the panel?
Asking cause was offered a display unit cheap but I assume that it was not be run in properly... |
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QUOTE(Bishop @ Apr 15 2011, 07:25 PM) What happens if the Plasma is not properly run in? Will it damage the panel? if it's a display unit then probably it has been run-ned in too much. Asking cause was offered a display unit cheap but I assume that it was not be run in properly... think it's better not to buy a plasma display unit as it's most probably had been playing a static image over and over on the shelf. |
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Check this out from The Star.
QUOTE PETALING JAYA: Panasonic Malaysia is offering a cloud-based Internet service called Viera Connect in six of its new flat-panel Viera TV models. The new plasma models are TH-P65VT30K, TH-P50VT30K, TH-P55ST30K and TH-P50ST30K. The screen sizes of the models range from 42in to 65in. The new LED LCD models are TH-L37DT30K and TH-L42E30K. The TH-L37DT30K is a 37in model that offers 3D full HD LED technology while the TH-L42E30K is a 42in model that offers full HD LED technology. The Viera Connect service allows users to enjoy news content, social networking, health and fitness activities, games, and a variety of other applications in addition to the standard movie and television programmes. TH-L42E30K There are also plans to introduce more applications that deliver local news and sports content to Viera Connect in the future, the company said. Panasonic said Viera Connect is a major step up from the recently introduced Viera Cast, which allows Viera TV owners to utilise web applications such as Skype and YouTube on its Viera TVs. Viera Connect will also allow users to control their compatible Viera TVs from their iPhone or iPad devices via the Viera remote application. Some of the Viera Connect services available include YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Skype. The TH-L37DT30K and TH-L42E30K retails at RM4,999 and RM3,699 respectively. The pricing for the plasma models was not available at press time. source: http://techcentral.my/news/story.aspx?file...934&sec=it_news |
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Thanks for the heads up, eagle7
Updated RRP list: 3D Plasma P65VT30K To be confirmed P50VT30K To be confirmed P55ST30K To be confirmed P50ST30k To be confirmed P42UT30K To be confirmed 2D Plasma P50U30K RM4,499 P50X30K RM3,799 P42U30K RM2,299 P42X30K RM1,999 3D LED/LCD L37DT30K 2D LED/LCD L42E30K (LED) L42E3K (LED) RM3,099 L42U30K RM2,199 L32X30K (LED) RM1,999 L32C30K RM1,299 L32C3K RM1,199 |
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The new 50U30K comes with a 2,000,000:1 contrast ratio. The previous 50V20K is 5,000,000:1. Do u all think it's a significance difference?
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QUOTE(yangkwok @ Apr 15 2011, 08:30 AM) Hmm I just bought it at 6.6k+ at perfect living show at PWtc. Comes with 3D bluray player, 2 glasses and 3 bluray disc. If u can't find, I'm thinking of selling mine slightly cheaper. The size is too small for me.. Thinking of 65in version or 92in projector.This post has been edited by DannyOP: Apr 18 2011, 11:12 PM |
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Anyone knows any shops still carry P50V20K?
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thats even harder to find... I wanted the non 3d version but it was out of stock.
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i am selling my 50V20K .those interested PM me
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actually, i like the 65/VT20 and still working out on the budget and other subsidized arrangements like eating roti canai for the next one year i must admit though the 60'' GT30 or 55/VT30 is very tempting but may not be available here at all . i am getting quite obsessed with black levels figures lately but can live with the V20 which is a very good TV by itself . i have a 42" V20 as my bedroom set and watch it under controlled lighting and is always impressed with it. i have not seen any floating black or rising black on my V20 , absolutely love Panny V This post has been edited by sunnyK: Apr 19 2011, 11:08 AM |
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Any feedback/reviews on this model?
TH-L42D25K Looking to buy one. Someone offer this model for RM2299. |
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Apr 19 2011, 11:07 AM) Mr Poorman Skip one family overseas vacation for the year and you already can get the 65VT30. After that, pacify your family with some 3D Bluray movies. Or impress them with the 3D Astro Premier League soccer actually, i like the 65/VT20 and still working out on the budget and other subsidized arrangements like eating roti canai for the next one year i must admit though the 60'' GT30 or 55/VT30 is very tempting but may not be available here at all . i am getting quite obsessed with black levels figures lately but can live with the V20 which is a very good TV by itself . i have a 42" V20 as my bedroom set and watch it under controlled lighting and is always impressed with it. i have not seen any floating black or rising black on my V20 , absolutely love Panny V Agree. No regrets so far with the V20. |
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halloww guys..
im nub here. my family got this viera type TH-L32X10X,, other then watching local channel theres nothing my parents actually do with it, so i was wondering whether i can get them HD mediaplayer so that there is actually good quality HD movies that they can watch instead of off-ratio static-enabled local channels.. is this type compatible with any HDMP? it mean that i need hdmi cable to connect my viera with HDMP rite? |
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media player is capable of 1080p, can connect to any HDTV just fine via HDMI cable
it also got composite video output so you can even connect it to CRT TV, the screen quality is surprisingly good |
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QUOTE(neb @ Apr 19 2011, 10:21 PM) media player is capable of 1080p, can connect to any HDTV just fine via HDMI cable oooo i see. thanks for the info.. so i just need to get hdmi cable and HDMP. any recommendation of HDMP brands? im not really sure about the market price of HDMP? is WD HDMP TV live good for my viera? wat i mean is the feature it has and the worth of the HDMP with my spec version of viera..it also got composite video output so you can even connect it to CRT TV, the screen quality is surprisingly good |
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QUOTE(Neoborn @ Apr 19 2011, 11:02 PM) oooo i see. thanks for the info.. so i just need to get hdmi cable and HDMP. any recommendation of HDMP brands? im not really sure about the market price of HDMP? is WD HDMP TV live good for my viera? wat i mean is the feature it has and the worth of the HDMP with my spec version of viera.. You may need to do some research if you utilizing Viera Link function. Some of Media Player may distrub Viera Link due to HDMI Pin 13 (CEC Comunication Channel). Else, if you are not concern of Viera Link Functions, then you can get any Media Player since most of them support 1080P. This post has been edited by tsgold: Apr 20 2011, 01:02 PM |
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more Pana models will be launched soon as per the pana sales guys at best 1U.. anyone has any insiders?
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Apr 24 2011, 05:39 PM
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I've purchase TH-P42V20K from a retailer in petaling jaya.
The seller claims that this unit is brand new unopen box. But then, after I take this TV home, I found out that is unit had a run time of 120+ hours and 30 over counts. What you guys think? Need to voice out?? Thank you. |
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QUOTE(solitary @ Apr 24 2011, 05:39 PM) I've purchase TH-P42V20K from a retailer in petaling jaya. U shd if it bothers u. Is there any burn in on the unit?The seller claims that this unit is brand new unopen box. But then, after I take this TV home, I found out that is unit had a run time of 120+ hours and 30 over counts. What you guys think? Need to voice out?? Thank you. |
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Thinkin of getting the p50VT20 now everywhere having sale. Anyone knows if senq selling them?
Also what additional features in the 2011 model that is a significant upgrade from the 2010 model? |
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Apr 25 2011, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(Bishop @ Apr 25 2011, 12:27 AM) Thinkin of getting the p50VT20 now everywhere having sale. Anyone knows if senq selling them? R u looking specifically for a 3d Tv.. cause I notice that u quote the vt20 series. Anyway, if 3D tv, should avoid the 2010 model. 2011 model has a less crosstalk/ghosting issues. (I dont own one, but read the review from the net) Also what additional features in the 2011 model that is a significant upgrade from the 2010 model? Read it here http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-vi...0gt30_TV_review 2011 3d model for plasma, entry level ST30, mid GT30, high VT30 One of the reviewer also commented that the ST30 3d performance is better compared to VT20... in a way, if 3d is ur main criteria, can go for st30.. if want some additional function gt30.. if want more additional function vt30... Oh yeah.. heads up.. the new 2011 3d spec design is ugly... heheheh |
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Apr 25 2011, 01:09 PM
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The VT30 seems to a really full fledged display from Panasonic. 2 point + 10point greyscale 10point gamma Full 3D CMS for primary and secondary Also separate memories for 2D and 3D calibration. Black levels of 0.0035ft/L. I measured 0.005ft/L for the VT20, so its an improvement. I am looking forward to calibrating one. |
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and thats only for the 42" version . the blackk levels for the 50 to 65'' panel should be more impressive but still not expected to beat the Kuro 9 .
the VT30 is going to be very expensive but there are meant for the enthusiasts and elites. |
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Apr 25 2011, 01:35 PM) and thats only for the 42" version . the blackk levels for the 50 to 65'' panel should be more impressive but still not expected to beat the Kuro 9 . The Pannys are not known to hv better black levels on bigger displays (its the Sammys that behave that way).the VT30 is going to be very expensive but there are meant for the enthusiasts and elites. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 24 2011, 08:10 PM) it dosent bother me, because the pq is damn nice and there is no burn mark on it. If I have a new unit, do I need to conserve the unit for the first 150+ hour? And what's the best settings on this model watching blu ray?Thanks |
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Apr 26 2011, 04:10 PM
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My Panny Plasma PV80 kaput already..
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Hi All,
I'm new bie here, I just found a good deal in Penang RM2899 for Panansonic Plasma VIERA TH-P42V20K. I'm not sure wheteher this is a good price or not for today... Let me know, current market price, to prevent water fish being caught by the shop.. Regards, RubyDiamond |
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Apr 26 2011, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(DiamondRuby @ Apr 26 2011, 04:39 PM) Hi All, It was available at RM2,499 in Klang Valley. But the 42V20 is no longer available in KL and it's pretty hard to get one now. At launch, it was about RM4,300. I'm new bie here, I just found a good deal in Penang RM2899 for Panansonic Plasma VIERA TH-P42V20K. I'm not sure wheteher this is a good price or not for today... Let me know, current market price, to prevent water fish being caught by the shop.. Regards, RubyDiamond Maybe you can try your luck and negotiate down a bit. But make sure it's a new unit and not a display unit. |
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Apr 26 2011, 10:56 PM
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Apr 26 2011, 11:11 PM
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lol.. the things I read in these forums never fails to entertain me sometimes. a cat pissing on the tv is definitely a first. don't mean to laugh at ur misfortune bro eddien4, I hope the parts for your PV80 arrive soon!
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Apr 27 2011, 01:22 AM
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if you knew how the cat kencing up the TV, why didnt you stop it...?
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Apr 27 2011, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(eddien4 @ Apr 26 2011, 05:10 PM) My Panny Plasma PV80 kaput already.. how the service guy knew tat is kencing kucing but not other animal?had he taste it to confirm it? |
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Apr 27 2011, 02:19 AM
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he watch CSI ma... can test the DNA...
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Apr 27 2011, 11:27 AM
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Aiyo wait for the new 2011 Viera lineups till wanna vomit blood lor. Stillnot out yet leh.
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Apr 27 2011, 11:28 AM
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Apr 27 2011, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(DiamondRuby @ Apr 26 2011, 04:39 PM) Hi All, i got mine at RM2299 about a month ago..I'm new bie here, I just found a good deal in Penang RM2899 for Panansonic Plasma VIERA TH-P42V20K. I'm not sure wheteher this is a good price or not for today... Let me know, current market price, to prevent water fish being caught by the shop.. Regards, RubyDiamond |
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Guys, anybody has info on new FHD Plasma ? I'm looking urgently for 50in model.
TQ. |
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the new VT30 from 50inch onwards is going to cost a bomb . malaysian market destined for lower spec ST series , but still , it won't be cheap .
My guess is 3D ST series should be available next month with VT30 probably in July. the cheap X and C series PQ looks better compare to last year but build quality standard has drop a lot . every TV maker low end build quality has drop beyond recognition as competition is so stiff and congested This post has been edited by sunnyK: Apr 27 2011, 03:22 PM |
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Apr 27 2011, 03:23 PM
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Thanks sunnyK,
I surveyed 50V20 series but it's very hard to find one. My other option now go to Sammy FHD Plasma 5/6 series...uhh ! |
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QUOTE(ckboon @ Apr 27 2011, 11:49 AM) wah, luckily ask, if not I'm the fish for the shop.Added on April 27, 2011, 4:45 pm QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 26 2011, 09:12 PM) It was available at RM2,499 in Klang Valley. But the 42V20 is no longer available in KL and it's pretty hard to get one now. At launch, it was about RM4,300. Thanks for info...Maybe you can try your luck and negotiate down a bit. But make sure it's a new unit and not a display unit. Added on April 27, 2011, 7:21 pm QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 26 2011, 09:12 PM) It was available at RM2,499 in Klang Valley. But the 42V20 is no longer available in KL and it's pretty hard to get one now. At launch, it was about RM4,300. Hi All,Maybe you can try your luck and negotiate down a bit. But make sure it's a new unit and not a display unit. Do you heard any bad news on the panel. My friend told me, black color will degrate after sometime.... OMG, how to negotiate from RM2899 to RM2299, impossible... Regards, William This post has been edited by DiamondRuby: Apr 27 2011, 07:21 PM |
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hi guys,
just booked at p50vt20 at 4900. The price is just for the tv without any other items ( no 3d glasses & bluray ). Also comes with 3+2 yrs warranty. Is this a good price ? |
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QUOTE(vijayakumar @ Apr 27 2011, 08:29 PM) hi guys, that's a very good price! you guys better go flock the same shop and get all available stocks hahajust booked at p50vt20 at 4900. The price is just for the tv without any other items ( no 3d glasses & bluray ). Also comes with 3+2 yrs warranty. Is this a good price ? |
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 28 2011, 08:52 AM) But without the 3D glasses you won't be able to enjoy its 3D capability! I think its worth getting at least a pair la IMHO. get compatible 3d glasses from somewhere else. the price is dead cheap for a tv selling above RM10k just a few month before. the 2D performance is next to none. |
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i bought p50vt20 last week at harvey norman .. RM6199 including panasonic 3d combo kit (1 3d spec, 3 3d titles avatar, caroline and ice age) worth RM1500. It is not easy to get avatar 3d in the market .. it is exclusive for panasonic
the tv's come with skype, you may want to ask the salesman to demo for u .. you may want to try ur luck to see still got or not .. the price for last month is RM14999, free blu ray player + the combo 3d kit by default there is a free 3d spec come with the tv's... hence i got 2 specs .. Added on April 28, 2011, 11:25 am QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 28 2011, 11:23 AM) get compatible 3d glasses from somewhere else. the price is dead cheap for a tv selling above RM10k just a few month before. the 2D performance is next to none. i think it will be good to get the same brand .. i try samsung 3d on my panasonic tv .. you can see the difference ... somemore those 3d glass need batteries .. that used for watch the bulat one.This post has been edited by MoonRider: Apr 28 2011, 11:28 AM |
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QUOTE(MoonRider @ Apr 28 2011, 11:23 AM) i think it will be good to get the same brand .. i try samsung 3d on my panasonic tv .. you can see the difference ... somemore those 3d glass need batteries .. that used for watch the bulat one. 3d glasses are not compatible between manufacturers at the moment, but they are quirky workarounds. |
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Found 50VT20 - RM5999 at KLCC HomeDec Panasonic stand in Level 3 (3D player, 3D Bluray, 2 3d glasses and HDMI cable)
They have 42V20 as well, but not displayed. X30 and U30 on display as well. Best is - all new stock, not display Offer only up to Monday. This post has been edited by SunwayKid: Apr 29 2011, 03:51 PM |
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QUOTE(SunwayKid @ Apr 29 2011, 03:50 PM) Found 50VT20 - RM5999 at KLCC HomeDec Panasonic stand in Level 3 (3D player, 3D Bluray, 2 3d glasses and HDMI cable) confirm with 3D Player? if yes i will go to HN and ask for refundThey have 42V20 as well, but not displayed. X30 and U30 on display as well. Best is - all new stock, not display Offer only up to Monday. This post has been edited by MoonRider: Apr 29 2011, 04:57 PM |
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QUOTE(le_error404 @ Apr 29 2011, 07:51 PM) panasonic are clearing the stocks at heartache prices. the vt20 are sold at around RM15k+- just a couple of month before. now it's at nearly 1/3 of the price. dropped nearly 70% |
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QUOTE(SunwayKid @ Apr 29 2011, 03:50 PM) Found 50VT20 - RM5999 at KLCC HomeDec Panasonic stand in Level 3 (3D player, 3D Bluray, 2 3d glasses and HDMI cable) any idea how much they sell 42V20 ?They have 42V20 as well, but not displayed. X30 and U30 on display as well. Best is - all new stock, not display Offer only up to Monday. |
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50VT20 how much now ?
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I want one but dunno how to ship to KK....
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QUOTE Panasonic reports loss, plans to cut 17,000 jobs not sure if this will affect plasma prices Associated Press |
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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 30 2011, 09:01 PM) Some competitors like to use the invoice to complain to the manufacturer.I am not saying you are one but I will play no part in it. I got a good deal and I am not going to get that outlet in trouble. If you are indeed a genuine buyer, go there and check yourself. This post has been edited by SunwayKid: Apr 30 2011, 10:31 PM |
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I just bought the 50VT20K from Homedec too! The Panasonic booth there is actually by their dealer Hoe Huat Electrical. It comes with the full 3D package. I also paid for the Purchase-With-Purchase which includes an extra 3D glass and video camera for Skype. Decided not to buy the Netgear wifi dongle from them.
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QUOTE(SunwayKid @ Apr 30 2011, 10:31 PM) Some competitors like to use the invoice to complain to the manufacturer. +1I am not saying you are one but I will play no part in it. I got a good deal and I am not going to get that outlet in trouble. If you are indeed a genuine buyer, go there and check yourself. woot.. got my 50vt20k below 6k at homedec.. happy happy happy.. targeted this unit since late last year.. from rm12k+ comes with 1x bdt-300 ( http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Panasonic-DMP-BDT300 ) 3x 3d bluray titles - coraline 3d / iceage 3d / avatar 3d ( rm300+ ? ) 2x 3d panny glasses 1x hdmi cable A couple of reviews for the vt20/vt25 http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-V...sma-Review.html http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?sub...l&id=1274347515 http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-t...20100520694.htm ( they gave it reference level.. ) IMO, the vt20 design looks dated / ugly bezel.. but i guess its function over form.. However, the new vt30 looks impressive.. but it comes with a ridiculous price tag to boot. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?sub...l&id=1303892383 http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-t...01104231092.htm |
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QUOTE(narayan @ May 1 2011, 03:10 PM) +1 how much u bought?still can get this offer?woot.. got my 50vt20k below 6k at homedec.. happy happy happy.. targeted this unit since late last year.. from rm12k+ comes with 1x bdt-300 ( http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Panasonic-DMP-BDT300 ) 3x 3d bluray titles - coraline 3d / iceage 3d / avatar 3d ( rm300+ ? ) 2x 3d panny glasses 1x hdmi cable A couple of reviews for the vt20/vt25 http://www.avforums.com/review/Panasonic-V...sma-Review.html http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?sub...l&id=1274347515 http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-t...20100520694.htm ( they gave it reference level.. ) IMO, the vt20 design looks dated / ugly bezel.. but i guess its function over form.. However, the new vt30 looks impressive.. but it comes with a ridiculous price tag to boot. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?sub...l&id=1303892383 http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-t...01104231092.htm |
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Wonder what is the street price for VT30? I love the flat glass design.
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im looking Panasonic THP50V20K Plasma
my wife dont want the 3D anyone know a good deal? |
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I spent some time viewing the Panny X30 & U30 as well as the new Sammy D490, D550, D8000, D7000. These are my comments. The X30 has the TrueCinema mode as does the U30. I could not really discern any major black level differences compared to 2010 models but there might be some as this was in the showroom. The AR filters on both of these are almost non existent with the X30. Both of the sets did not have user level greyscale calibration controls The D490 was also close to the X30 but with 3D to boot. The D550 looked the same as X30. Both did not have any form of AR filter that is worth talking about. The both of them had user level 2 point greyscale controls but no CMS The D7000 and the D8000 looked extremely good. They both had 2 point and 10 point greyscale controls. They also had a complete 3D CMS. Will report more when I get to spend more time on the sets later this year. |
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Have they announce the RRP for the VT30 and ST30 for Malaysia yet? I wonder what's taking them such a long time. It would be a very interesting topic for me.
I'm betting it will go very mainstream prices for the ST30. Too bad they may not be bringing in the mid-tier GT30. Does that mean they figure Malaysian demographic to be either very entry level or enthusiast/filthy rich but no/little volume in between. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ May 2 2011, 10:04 AM) I spent some time viewing the Panny X30 & U30 as well as the new Sammy D490, D550, D8000, D7000. Meaning U30 got better anti reflective than X30? With street price of 2k for U30 and 1.7k for X30 (42"), which is the better choice? Or any other better choice than these two?These are my comments. The X30 has the TrueCinema mode as does the U30. I could not really discern any major black level differences compared to 2010 models but there might be some as this was in the showroom. The AR filters on both of these are almost non existent with the X30. Both of the sets did not have user level greyscale calibration controls The D490 was also close to the X30 but with 3D to boot. The D550 looked the same as X30. Both did not have any form of AR filter that is worth talking about. The both of them had user level 2 point greyscale controls but no CMS The D7000 and the D8000 looked extremely good. They both had 2 point and 10 point greyscale controls. They also had a complete 3D CMS. Will report more when I get to spend more time on the sets later this year. TQ |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ May 2 2011, 12:51 PM) I read that, the only problem I hv are his black level measurements, they don't jive with what a lot of others and I have measured for the VT20 and the Kuro 9G... he did used the same measuring equipment as yours Klein K-10 . i am quite surprise he measured the pioneer LX5090 having higher black levels than the VT30 if i have read the review correctly . others measured the VT30 at 0.0038 ft/L which is far above the pioneer kuro9.but i am even more surprise to learnt that the gamma for THX is factory set at 1.9/2.0 and canot be reset . i thought the THX standard for gamma is always at 2.2. panny may have buckled under pressure to please the masses for brighter looking TVs |
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any place can get LED 37" DT30 and how much the price?
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hi all sifu wanna ask
I just buy this tv http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr...t/x_plasma.html TH-P42X30K:42" (106 cm) diagonal isit a good product? I heard need to service the every 5 year isit true? inject gas for the plasma. Sorry if my question is super noob |
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QUOTE(zonan4 @ May 2 2011, 09:03 PM) hi all sifu wanna ask No need to inject any gas....I just buy this tv http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr...t/x_plasma.html TH-P42X30K:42" (106 cm) diagonal isit a good product? I heard need to service the every 5 year isit true? inject gas for the plasma. Sorry if my question is super noob |
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This is new. Need to inject gas...
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actually on the right track, plasma need gas to operate
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Thanks for the reply. Kinda worry must do some service maintainance like that....
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QUOTE(ryan3721 @ May 2 2011, 04:30 PM) Meaning U30 got better anti reflective than X30? With street price of 2k for U30 and 1.7k for X30 (42"), which is the better choice? Or any other better choice than these two? i saw the u30k plasma at midvalley, the anti reflective is better than x30, the image oso sharper because u30k is FULL HD, and i notice that u30k got "Resolution Enhancer function" for astro SD and DVD !! i will buy the u30 from a seller at kajang next week for my new house TQ http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr...t/u_plasma.html http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr...t/x_plasma.html This post has been edited by desmondchong23: May 3 2011, 02:31 PM |
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QUOTE(desmondchong23 @ May 3 2011, 02:21 PM) i saw the u30k plasma at midvalley, the anti reflective is better than x30, the image oso sharper because u30k is FULL HD, i will buy the u30 from a seller at kajang next week for my new house Odd. I checked again today, did not see any difference between X30 and U30 side by side in terms of anti reflective coating. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ May 3 2011, 02:27 PM) Odd. I checked again today, did not see any difference between X30 and U30 side by side in terms of anti reflective coating. i compared at best denki and harvey norman, best to compare is harvey norman because the environment is bright, and best denki in dim light room |
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QUOTE(desmondchong23 @ May 3 2011, 02:21 PM) i saw the u30k plasma at midvalley, the anti reflective is better than x30, the image oso sharper because u30k is FULL HD, and i notice that u30k got "Resolution Enhancer function" for astro SD and DVD !! i will buy the u30 from a seller at kajang next week for my new house What's the price you were quoted for the 50U30K?http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr...t/u_plasma.html http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr...t/x_plasma.html I got quoted RM3350 (incl delivery) for it by a seller in Shah Alam. |
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Just bought P42U30K during lunch time today. Can't wait to go home and unbox it
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from uk panasonic website, u30 series plasma tv do not have any anti-reflection filter for comparison: G30 got High Contrast Filter (AR Filter) S30 got Mono Filter |
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Went to Harvey Norman IPC to survey Panasonic plasma and really suprised by the attitude of the promoters there. Not complaining, just sharing what I thought.
1. 3-4 of them rushing to serve, something to do with commission? 2. While rushing to serve, 2 of them keep pushing each other, albeit in joking kinda way. Others just joking around. Near closing hour I guess. 3. When I show them the SD card with HD trailers I downloaded, the one who successfully grab the chance to serve me, said something like "where got ppl watch downloaded trailer one", then he show his USB harddisk with full of *ahem* HD movies and say if I buy from him he can copy all of them for me. 4. Price is higher than I found outside and not negotiable, even during promotion. Maybe I am looking at the lower range of the tv? This post has been edited by ryan3721: May 4 2011, 04:19 PM |
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Did u go to HomeDec fair last week in KLCC? I found the price to be very reasonable.
Ordered a 50vt20k. They will only deliver my unit by this Friday. Anyone have your unit delivered? |
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Heard from the Panasonic guys at HomeDec that the VT30 will be Thailand-made.
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Any comments on this LCD model L42U30K and what is the best price in the market?
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new owner of panasonic TH-P42U30K, just got it today love the panel, anyone knows where i can get a compatible USB wifi dongle to work for this panel? i check the site mention only
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Hi guys, how much is a cheapest 50" plasma available? I don't need the latest bells & whistles, just looking for a good value for money panasonic plasma.
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QUOTE(ediaikau @ May 5 2011, 09:22 PM) Hi guys, how much is a cheapest 50" plasma available? I don't need the latest bells & whistles, just looking for a good value for money panasonic plasma. Nt 100% sure, but I think the 2010's 50X30K would be the cheapest option. Now it should be selling about RM2700? The next one would be 50U30K, around RM3250. |
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ May 5 2011, 09:28 PM) Nt 100% sure, but I think the 2010's 50X30K would be the cheapest option. Now it should be selling about RM2700? The next one would be 50U30K, around RM3250. Thanks bro, any good shop to recommend?Added on May 5, 2011, 9:47 pmIs it necessary to get a full hd for plasma tv's? This post has been edited by ediaikau: May 5 2011, 09:47 PM |
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QUOTE(nicholas1007 @ May 5 2011, 03:45 PM) Wondering wat features have inside Viera Cast in Malaysia? To my knowledge should be able to. Even when you first connect the VCAST, if logs to internet to check for latest version and then downloads it.Been asking those panny salesmen, ask them if 2010 viera cast later can update / upgrade to viera connect. All of them giving me unsured answer As VCAST get more publishing licenses, it will add more intenet connections, probably some would need to be paid?....hmmm |
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QUOTE(ediaikau @ May 5 2011, 09:42 PM) Thanks bro, any good shop to recommend? You can check out Legend Hifi at SS2, PJ. Their prices are usually lower than other electrical shops, esp if you are buying multiple items from them. But some people prefer to pay a little bit premium at places like Best Denki or Harvey Norman for the peace of mind. There are also some who bought from some of the sellers/members here in LYN, but at your own risk la.Added on May 5, 2011, 9:47 pmIs it necessary to get a full hd for plasma tv's? I'm not a techie person, but if I'm not mistaken, you'll only really utilize the Full HD capability if you are into Blu-Rays or going to download a lot of High Def movies from the Internet, or a hardcore PS3 fella. The distance you usually sit from the TV would be a factor too. If you are seating 10 feets away from your TV, chances are your eyes won't be able to really tell the differences between a Full HD TV and a non-FHD. If you have the budget, just go ahead and get one I reckon |
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ May 5 2011, 09:28 PM) Nt 100% sure, but I think the 2010's 50X30K would be the cheapest option. Now it should be selling about RM2700? The next one would be 50U30K, around RM3250. Wonder where we can get price around RM3,250 for 50U30K as Best Denki is selling the model at RM4,499???If prefer non-FHD models, should look into Sammys' new plasma which comes with 3D as well; cost a bit more??? |
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ May 6 2011, 08:25 AM) I'm not a techie person, but if I'm not mistaken, you'll only really utilize the Full HD capability if you are into Blu-Rays or going to download a lot of High Def movies from the Internet, or a hardcore PS3 fella. The distance you usually sit from the TV would be a factor too. If you are seating 10 feets away from your TV, chances are your eyes won't be able to really tell the differences between a Full HD TV and a non-FHD. If you have the budget, just go ahead and get one I reckon |
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Need some advise from the sifus here.
The 50u30k is selling for RM3250 and a LYN seller is selling the 42gt20k for RM3400. Which should I choose? |
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42GT20K will have a much better AR filter. If your plasma is located in a slightly bright place, the 50U30K glass may have quite a bit of reflection which may in turn be very distracting, not to mention affect the PQ a bit.
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QUOTE(panafone @ May 6 2011, 11:31 AM) Need some advise from the sifus here. Size does matter as the joy of watching bigger screen is beyond description especially if watching full screen concerts.The 50u30k is selling for RM3250 and a LYN seller is selling the 42gt20k for RM3400. Which should I choose? 42" is way too small and for the mentioned price, I'll go for 50". Usually you upgrade from 42" to 50". I've been watching my 50u20k for a year now and do not find reflectiveness an issue. Now 50" is a bit small and still think of upgrading to a bigger screen i.e. Pana 65" / Sammy 65" where both come with 3D. Hope you do not get con by the price of RM3,250 for a 50u30k??? |
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PQ is important too . i've own a HD ready 50" before but i enjoy more the 42/V20 .
due to continuing falling prices ,there's no reason not to own a mid range to high end models from now although affordability and sitting/sleeping distance to TV screen ought to be taken into account. |
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summore 42gt20k can watch 3d, if u need this function, then shud go for this model
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QUOTE(vincentboleh @ May 6 2011, 10:13 AM) Wonder where we can get price around RM3,250 for 50U30K as Best Denki is selling the model at RM4,499??? Ops gave wrong info pulak. 50U30K at RM4250, 50X30K at RM3250 and 50X20K at RM2700. If prefer non-FHD models, should look into Sammys' new plasma which comes with 3D as well; cost a bit more??? Keke enjoyed your sarcasm though. Thanks for pointing out. ;-) Added on May 6, 2011, 6:37 pm QUOTE(vincentboleh @ May 6 2011, 02:56 PM) My parents are having this 50U20K. And I can tell you the reflective screen of this model is definitely an issue. Some members here even referred this model as the mirror tv. Maybe if u always watch tv at night and minimal lighting then it wouldn't be irritating la. Not sure whether it's true or not. But when I look at 50U30K's screen, it doesn't look that reflective anymore. Maybe Panasonic has done some improvement after receiving so many complaints about it This post has been edited by tankiasu: May 7 2011, 10:54 AM |
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Anyone know how to remove the programme number / astro HD / logo on the Display?
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I can't find also... my other lg has the white wash function.
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QUOTE(SunwayKid @ May 7 2011, 08:34 AM) Bruder, I am asking whether there is a function within the Pana plasma to remove such logos to prevent burnt in. Wow really got such feature? I thought the Astro logo comes from the source feed? Can the tv itself removes them?I recall my Sony LCD has one. I am unable to locate the function with the Pana remote. |
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This is what I see from the Operating Instruction:
Menu->Setup->Display Settings->Side Panel Increases the brightness of the side panel (Off/Low/Mid/High) The recommended setting is "High" to prevent panel "image retention" |
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just got my vt20 6 hours ago. Should I set the picture to ciname mode or true cinema mode for the 1st 200 hours
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Any news on the VT30 pricing?
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QUOTE(otnuus @ May 8 2011, 12:04 AM) This is what I see from the Operating Instruction: That function is to ensure that the entire panel is being used when AR is switched to 4:3 (black bars on the left+right edge will be become gray). This will result in a more uniform panel.Menu->Setup->Display Settings->Side Panel Increases the brightness of the side panel (Off/Low/Mid/High) The recommended setting is "High" to prevent panel "image retention" It doesn't get rid of logos/static images. |
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Thanks for the explaination.
Btw, any good recommendation of VT20K settings to share? anyone tested Skype using Viera Cast? The application loading is way too slow. The incoming call will be dropped when the application is loading. Definitely not as smooth as the demo shown on Panasonic advertisement. Other than that, the cam is good. It captures my whole living area. Auto focus is a bit slow but very good, able to capture small fineprint even from newspaper when I hold it close to the cam. |
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Just bought TH-L42E3K from Harvey Norman @ 2799 (choose harvey Norman because they accept AMEX, so i can earn points and cash back
Picture quality is awesome. However, when I plug USB HDD to play some MKV files (1080p quality), the movie terribly lagging with no sound. Later I understand that the DTS audio format is not supported on this TV. The AVCHD file also not supported despite the TV spec says supported. I might be placed the folder structure wrongly but i still need some research on that. Conclusion, I still need to invest on buying a media player to play all these downloaded video files instead of relying on TV ready functions. Haha.. purchased this TV just loving the LED and FULL HD also the simple and nice panel.. lame excuse.. |
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I planning to buy th-42X30K.. Is it got fb function by its veira link? Wat is iptv function? Apply in msia? And connectivity for WLAN wifi adapter Whr to get it? Hope expert or who been used tis model can giving some advice.. Tq
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hi all, just got a viera TH-P42GT20K wanted to ask you wheter anyone has connected their tv with a wireless adapter ? coz i asked panasonic the one the reccomend me is RM 300!! crazy expensive... anyone got try any other brand wireless adapter?
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QUOTE(nkdin_rulez @ May 11 2011, 04:52 PM) hi all, just got a viera TH-P42GT20K wanted to ask you wheter anyone has connected their tv with a wireless adapter ? coz i asked panasonic the one the reccomend me is RM 300!! crazy expensive... anyone got try any other brand wireless adapter? you won't be able to find any cheap alternatives here in Malaysia. coz normal usb wireless adaptors just wont worki tried my belkin wireless basic it didnt detect |
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netgear WNDA3100v2 is compatible with viera, it uses Broadcom BCM4323 chipset
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http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr.../vt_plasma.html
tis v series 3D plasma got free WL USB adapter and 2 pairs 3D eyewears, but not sure msia panny got free tis not.. if buy a panny adapter cost rm300.. then direct purchase tis model also not much diff.. Added on May 12, 2011, 2:20 amtis morning i did called service center, they said can ask any electrical shop for WLan usb adapter for tv.. any brand also can work. now i wonder what he said is true or not. anyway i found panny website these few model are work with th-42U tat i looking for NETGEAR WNDR3300 WNR2000 Linksys WRT120N Belkin F5D8235-4 may i know whr should i get it n roughly how much? This post has been edited by alvinwh: May 12 2011, 02:20 AM |
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QUOTE(alvinwh @ May 12 2011, 02:13 AM) http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr.../vt_plasma.html can check this topic here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1015038tis v series 3D plasma got free WL USB adapter and 2 pairs 3D eyewears, but not sure msia panny got free tis not.. if buy a panny adapter cost rm300.. then direct purchase tis model also not much diff.. Added on May 12, 2011, 2:20 amtis morning i did called service center, they said can ask any electrical shop for WLan usb adapter for tv.. any brand also can work. now i wonder what he said is true or not. anyway i found panny website these few model are work with th-42U tat i looking for NETGEAR WNDR3300 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â WNR2000 Linksys WRT120N Belkin F5D8235-4 may i know whr should i get it n roughly how much? the seller got lotsa models... bro the linksys model u gave is a router... QUOTE tankiasu Posted Today, 01:35 AM QUOTE(neb @ May 11 2011, 06:03 PM) netgear WNDA3100v2 is compatible with viera, it uses Broadcom BCM4323 chipset * How much is this Netgear dongle then? the netgear one is RM300... This post has been edited by nkdin_rulez: May 12 2011, 07:42 AM |
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QUOTE(nkdin_rulez @ May 12 2011, 07:26 PM) haha... does anyone already own one of this ? haha... it has nothing to do with the wps function on the usb adapter? however, viera TV seems to only accept broadcom based USB wifi dongle, panasonic should add in more drivers into viera TV firmware for other wifi chipset such as atheros and realtek |
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QUOTE(neb @ May 12 2011, 07:50 PM) however, viera TV seems to only accept broadcom based USB wifi dongle, panasonic should add in more drivers into viera TV firmware for other wifi chipset such as atheros and realtek yea... there is no way to upgrade the tv firmware also kan? i check the price for the belkin... its RM 145 still not cheap just to buy to try luck haha... dun work means GG |
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May 12 2011, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(nkdin_rulez @ May 12 2011, 08:03 PM) yea... there is no way to upgrade the tv firmware also kan? i check the price for the belkin... its RM 145 still not cheap just to buy to try luck haha... dun work means GG is it work? tis adapter work with any modem and router? i m using aztech router n D link modem.. |
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May 13 2011, 01:25 PM
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sitting and waiting for panny's new model ST and VT series to launch here very sian
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May 13 2011, 03:03 PM
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How do you all find the signal strength of the Panasonic remote? I have to point the remote directly to the TV to work. I know this is IR and I should point it directly to the IR sensor on the TV. But Astro decoder remote definitely have a better IR strength. I can point the remote to the ceiling or even to my back and able to work. Reason is my father put a lot of stuff on the TV cabinet and the TV just mounted a bit higher on the wall and those stuff blocks the IR line of sight if I were to press the remote on the coffee table. I have to hold the remote higher to get it work.
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May 13 2011, 03:34 PM
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15 ft no problema
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May 16 2011, 06:56 PM
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can any1 here recommend me for 40/42inch TV?
LCD or LED or Plasma better? what i have in my mind now is this == > VIERA TH-P42U30K any1 know the price for this and hows the performance? |
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May 17 2011, 12:13 AM
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hye. i just bought th-px50u20k . the problem now after 4 hours turn on the screen suddenly turn to pink colour, is this normal? because i need to turn off then on back and it back to normal.
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May 17 2011, 02:13 AM
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I've just purchase Panasonic TH-P42X30K 42" Plasma for RM 1850. But then just now saw in Lowyat, they are selling it for RM 1588, feels like i was cheated
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May 17 2011, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE(xPC12x @ May 17 2011, 12:13 AM) hye. i just bought th-px50u20k . the problem now after 4 hours turn on the screen suddenly turn to pink colour, is this normal? because i need to turn off then on back and it back to normal. I seen this too for a few occasion on 50VT20K. Can't recall how I get this. Seems like this happened after I switch around with the input source. However, this pink color screen always come from Astro Byond decoder. The color went back to normal after I reset either the TV or the Astro decoder. Not really sure if the source is causing this. |
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May 17 2011, 02:31 AM
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May 17 2011, 03:10 AM
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May 17 2011, 10:31 AM
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May 18 2011, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(nabelon @ May 17 2011, 02:13 AM) I've just purchase Panasonic TH-P42X30K 42" Plasma for RM 1850. But then just now saw in Lowyat, they are selling it for RM 1588, feels like i was cheated Yep quite a surprice also.Plasma HD Ready TH-P42X30K RM 1588.00 inclusive delivery and setting up...Super Low Price!! FOC HDMI cable ver 1.4 Why the price keep falling? |
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May 18 2011, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(ryan3721 @ May 18 2011, 11:19 AM) Yep quite a surprice also. LG LED at carrfour 2199 -.-" 42" Plasma HD Ready TH-P42X30K RM 1588.00 inclusive delivery and setting up...Super Low Price!! FOC HDMI cable ver 1.4 Why the price keep falling? too much competition i think. now ppl choose between LED and Plasma mostly... LCD ? |
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May 18 2011, 03:06 PM
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LED is also LCD lah , both using backlight technology except LED's LCD is brighter and with improvement on panels , much sharper images but less natural than Plasmas.
under controlled ambience , high end Plasmas has better detail in PQ as well. |
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May 18 2011, 11:15 PM
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any comments on the new model of Plasma TV ..
Panasonic TH-P50U30k ? what is the lowest price ? heard from Legend, the v series already obselete..... |
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May 19 2011, 10:33 AM
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i using th-42U30k, anyone know could i plug in external 2.5 hdd direct to plasma tv, i mean plug and play movie , music or pic?
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May 19 2011, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(alvinwh @ May 19 2011, 10:33 AM) i using th-42U30k, anyone know could i plug in external 2.5 hdd direct to plasma tv, i mean plug and play movie , music or pic? I think should be able to do so. Saw the sales guy at Harvey Norman demo by pluggin in his external usb hard disk with alot of "ahem" HD movies into P42U30K and the other Panasonic 42" 3D dunno what model.. both can work.. |
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May 19 2011, 01:32 PM
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Only certain file format are supported. I have tested VT with avi. Both rmvb and mkv are not supported. Better check with the particular model specifications.
Added on May 19, 2011, 1:56 pmWhats the supported resolution on the panny D-sub DB15 VGA PC input interface? I failed to get it to display in full HD. With the TV switched to PC Input, I cant find the matching audio input to run concurrently. Did panny purposely left out the audio input functionality when we use the PC input? This post has been edited by otnuus: May 19 2011, 01:56 PM |
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May 19 2011, 04:16 PM
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V series obsolete? i tot it is higher range than U series..i saw the image is pretty nice and bright.. by the way..having 50U lying at my house.
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May 19 2011, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(otnuus @ May 19 2011, 01:32 PM) Whats the supported resolution on the panny D-sub DB15 VGA PC input interface? I failed to get it to display in full HD. The supported resolutions thru VGA PC input are listed in your manual.With the TV switched to PC Input, I cant find the matching audio input to run concurrently. Did panny purposely left out the audio input functionality when we use the PC input? The VGA connection is just for video (no audio). Do you have a separate audio output port from your PC? If yes, you will need to connect this to your home theater/separate speakers. Alternatively, if your PC supports HDMI output (for both video and audio), then you should just use HDMI connection to the TV. |
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May 19 2011, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(otnuus @ May 13 2011, 03:03 PM) How do you all find the signal strength of the Panasonic remote? I have to point the remote directly to the TV to work. I know this is IR and I should point it directly to the IR sensor on the TV. But Astro decoder remote definitely have a better IR strength. I can point the remote to the ceiling or even to my back and able to work. Reason is my father put a lot of stuff on the TV cabinet and the TV just mounted a bit higher on the wall and those stuff blocks the IR line of sight if I were to press the remote on the coffee table. I have to hold the remote higher to get it work. My TV is 23 feet away, and when I point the remote 90degree away from TV, it works fine, and point to top, almost 150 degree, and it works fine |
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May 22 2011, 12:44 AM
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hi guys,
need an advice here. im thinking to get a 42' tv but dont now which to buy. im thinking p42gt20 or l42e3k. im looking for a best visual here. 3d is a plus. or should i consider any other model? welcome all comments/advise from all sifus out there.. tq |
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