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 Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.2, Plasma, LCD & LED models.

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post Apr 5 2011, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(tsgold @ Apr 5 2011, 05:17 PM)
i find the VT quality better to V series. I was able to witness smooth difference between V and VT series when they played some move samples.
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Can you ask them to remove all those freebies like 3D glasses, 3D Bluray etc? If you do, the price differences will be even less.

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post Apr 6 2011, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 11:19 AM)
its true. Samsung has improve leap and bound from Panasonic. Furthermore, Panasonic are bogged down by
rising black issue. sad.gif
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Some prefer vivid color and others natural color. I find Samsung's color more vivid and Panasonic's more natural.
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post Apr 6 2011, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 01:55 PM)
but the links showed Samsung is more natural and Panasonic is over saturated, there were visible motion artifacts, flicker and judder effects as well.


http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html

http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html
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I am paying with my own money so I picked what my eyes picked. I especially like the color 'red' on Panasonic.

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post Apr 6 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 02:15 PM)
Red on Panasonic plasma is actually dull eventhough set to dynamic. Is it good to have duller red?
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there is cartoon type of red and natural red as in flower red. That is why kids like cartoon because their color is always deliberately made much more attractive. But we all know cartoon are not real or natural. Try this. Go look at real red flower and then go watch it on a Sony and you may know what i meant.
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post Apr 6 2011, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:48 PM)
i was watching Panasonic Plasma and Panasonic LED. Both same source showing a truck.

On plasma, I see dark blood red (dark red) - setting is dynamic. While LED show dramatic red (setting is Cinema).

The problem is, I dunno the real red of the truck is which one. I tend to believe the real red is bright red eventhough
I might be wrong.

Here is the LED version:
user posted image

Here is the Plasma version:
user posted image

Problem is, which one is real? That time is bright daylight outdoor movie.
oh, means Pana is more colorful.
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the only way to know which is correct is to have actually seen the real truck. Only by having seen the real thing can you know which TV is displaying the color correctly. And we have no way of doing that. That is why i use human skin tone and red flower as reference because we see those everyday. IMO Sony have one of the worst red because they are so unreal to my eyes.
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:27 PM)
its not a confirmation also. How you know if the tone is correct for that specific person or flower? maybe its very red leh?
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if you want to split hair then you have to spend lots me money to buy professional color measuring equipment. You want to do that? If not and you still can not roughly tell what skin tone are supposed to look like then are you sure you want to buy expensive TV because it looks like wasting money. Just buy one with the sharpness picture and ignore the color or whatever that make you happy.

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post Apr 7 2011, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:48 PM)
i was watching Panasonic Plasma and Panasonic LED. Both same source showing a truck.

On plasma, I see dark blood red (dark red) - setting is dynamic. While LED show dramatic red (setting is Cinema).

The problem is, I dunno the real red of the truck is which one. I tend to believe the real red is bright red eventhough
I might be wrong.

Here is the LED version:
user posted image

Here is the Plasma version:
user posted image

Problem is, which one is real? That time is bright daylight outdoor movie.
oh, means Pana is more colorful.
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These 2 are totally different truck so different color.



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post Apr 7 2011, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 08:48 AM)
adui... pls la... I already said its just an example... how many times I need to repeat it....  sweat.gif
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You should find a better example. You shouldn't even consider using an example of an orange and an apple.


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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 6 2011, 05:43 PM)
we actually do. in the form of colorimeter.
plasma or led or lcd or projector have to be calibrated to get good result, to make it display the colors as close to how the video are shot at.

my plasma looks horrible with the standard settings. be it in any mode.
i'm telling my friends if they don't wanna tweak the settings get an LED because that looks better out of the box.
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Drawing from my times with Hi Fi, there are 2 types of people.

One type would want the reproduction of sound (or picture) to be as close to the original as possible. These people mostly went for Solid State amplifier.

The other type couldn't care less whether the reproduced sound (or picture) is close to the original or not as long as it sounded nice. They wanted the sound to be 'nicer' than the original, sugar coated so to speak. These people mostly went for tube amplifier with it's characteristic euphoric sound on vocal.

Therefore, if a person like vivid (less natural color), that's his business. For me, I learn toward more natural color or whatever color I like (and that's why I am not thinking of calibration for now)

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post Apr 7 2011, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 09:54 AM)
ok, I rest my case. I place the picture to show u the different color. Not the model of the truck idiot.
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And this is coming from a person who think good sound means merely being loud. I suppose you like listening to jack hammer? You sure have funny taste.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1822476
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post Apr 7 2011, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:06 AM)
i merely replying to the topic in hand. So?
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Show how mature you are.

1. Comparing orange with an apple.
2. Jack hammering is good sound because it is loud rclxub.gif
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post Apr 8 2011, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 8 2011, 04:34 PM)
Penang still got stock on 42v20k. I wonder if its still a good buy at RM2,500 seeing a many new 3D display.
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Saw Samsung 51" 3D being offered at RM4500.
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post Apr 11 2011, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 10 2011, 09:27 PM)
It's slightly cheaper but not that much. I heard it's about RM2,000+ elsewhere. Anyway, your set with 2,400+ hours is close to probably one year usage. Definitely, you should return it and get a new unit.
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At 2000+ hours, tell them it should be sold at 1/2 price. Either they sell you at that price or you write to newspaper saying you are sold used goods as brand new. A win-win situation.



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post Apr 27 2011, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(abahwafi @ Apr 27 2011, 03:23 PM)
Thanks sunnyK,

I surveyed 50V20 series but it's very hard to find one.

My other option now go to Sammy FHD Plasma 5/6 series...uhh !
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Try one of those big chain store like SenHeng or something.

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post Apr 28 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(vijayakumar @ Apr 27 2011, 08:29 PM)
hi guys,

just booked at p50vt20 at 4900. The price is just for the tv without any other items ( no 3d glasses & bluray ). Also comes with 3+2 yrs warranty.

Is this a good price ?
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Grab it. Is it a Demo unit?
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post Apr 29 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 29 2011, 08:56 PM)
panasonic are clearing the stocks at heartache prices. the vt20 are sold at around RM15k+- just a couple of month before. now it's at nearly 1/3 of the price. dropped nearly 70% nod.gif
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If they drop the 65" by 70%, I will be interested in getting it

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post May 6 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(tankiasu @ May 6 2011, 08:25 AM)

I'm not a techie person, but if I'm not mistaken, you'll only really utilize the Full HD capability if you are into Blu-Rays or going to download a lot of High Def movies from the Internet, or a hardcore PS3 fella. The distance you usually sit from the TV would be a factor too. If you are seating 10 feets away from your TV,  chances are your eyes won't be able to really tell the differences between a Full HD TV and a non-FHD.

If you have the budget, just go ahead and get one I reckon tongue.gif
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HDTV and these High Definition program is a marriage made in heaven.
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post May 6 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(panafone @ May 6 2011, 11:31 AM)
Need some advise from the sifus here.

The 50u30k is selling for RM3250 and a LYN seller is selling the 42gt20k for RM3400.

Which should I choose?
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Sorry to say this but IMO, size does matter when it comes to TV.

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post May 26 2011, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(HW-Racer @ May 25 2011, 11:30 PM)
I was told by HN sales man that for Plasma TV even sitting position is near... it will not strain our eyes like LED or LCD TVs...
due to the natural colour/soft tones... not sure whether is true or not...

my sitting position is about 10 feet... i am thinking to get 50" plasma  50U30k or 50 VT20K... but afraid is too big
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That HN salesman is telling the truth. Most salesman tells rubbish.


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post May 27 2011, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ May 27 2011, 06:12 PM)
yeah I think for 10-12ft viewing, 65" is the best for FHD materials
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I want a Ferrari. I want a private yacht. I want a private airplane. I want a 102" Plasma. Only problem is, how to spend RM15K for a TV? That's some people's entire year's salary. Crazy.



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post May 29 2011, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Mickey C @ May 28 2011, 11:16 PM)

Correct... Plasma have natural skin colour, natural black and white colour... My friend he very clever one, he go to buy 55" Sony, as we know Sony no Plasma tv, so the picture is totally out. Play Astro, show lot of boxes, colour also very bright,,,,  how to watch, my eye also tired... Better don't watch..
I ABSOLUTELY can not stand watching Sony's color. They are the most fake looking amongst the other brands. Whenever I looked at some red flower on Sony, I wanted to puke. Nowhere in any garden I see red flower of that color. And my eyes wanted to cry with tears flowing down with those harsh lighting. But that's just my own opinion.



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