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 Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.2, Plasma, LCD & LED models.

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post Mar 16 2011, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 16 2011, 08:58 PM)
How about when you played it on the PC LCD monitor? Do you also see the flickering? This is to eliminate source problem.

It could be the infamous floating black issue which is noticeable when you watch it in a dim environment.

Best to call in Panasonic support to eliminate faulty hardware issues e.g. backlight.
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Does the V series plasma have this famous floating black issue?
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 17 2011, 02:39 AM)
All 2010 Panny plasma models have been reported to suffer from this. Some people can notice it clearly. Some don't.

Anfieldude did post something earlier that can alleviate the problem slightly by lowering the brightness setting. Would appreciate if he can remind us again the details.
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wow, then RM2499 42" V series still worth it? or wait for 2011 version? as far as I know, I feel that 2011 will be coming very soon. The price drop out there is huge.
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post Mar 17 2011, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(starship1 @ Mar 17 2011, 10:38 AM)
2011 higher end models may be launch later due to tsunami . my condolence and compassion to those affected.

the world still need japanese made electronics. simply better than the rest
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V series made in Japan? I guess it'll be delayed too. My condolences.
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post Mar 18 2011, 04:52 PM

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I hope they still sell 42v20 in 3 months time. sad.gif
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:09 AM

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should I buy P50v20k now? Its very tempting.... is floating black very noticeable or people just too picky?
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post Mar 21 2011, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Mar 21 2011, 10:14 AM)
mate, many have commented on the same question! You should read them.....just to simplify for you...go and get it!  rclxms.gif
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sorry... normally I read the whole thread... this time i just get lazy and ask..

Get it? I will go today
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post Mar 21 2011, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 21 2011, 12:02 PM)
depends on the price. how much can you get it for? over here lowest ive seen is 4699. if really good deal then can buy
i think i gave up liao on V5020k. From launching till now I still "cant" buy one  cry.gif
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wat price u expect for it? sweat.gif
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post Mar 21 2011, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 21 2011, 08:46 PM)
42" would be perfect for 6-7 feet viewing distance
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I'm using 40" for 6" which I think its not enough. So yeah,
42" is better. 50" will be awesome.
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post Mar 22 2011, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Mar 22 2011, 12:07 AM)
i hope you won't have to roll your eyeball so much when viewing such a big object within that distance...lol..
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hey, I dun think we have that problem watching movie in Cinema right? drool.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 22 2011, 12:23 AM)
i normally will buy the last row or 2nd last row for cinema le..
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you're probably the only person who told me that. Normally people sit in the middle so that the screen fully
envelope your vision creating the atmosphere of being inside the movie. Your movie watching experience failed
liao.

QUOTE(PoorMan @ Mar 22 2011, 03:14 AM)
It's OK through my own experience. Everyday for 2 hours since Nov2010, I've been using V20 for PS3 gaming. On weekends, straight 8-10 hours playing FF XIII. Once in a while, a bit of IR but that washes away quickly when you switch to other channels.

PS3 setting: HDMI to full range and deep colour to Auto.

HD gaming on V20 is breath taking.

Edit: Oh ... and make sure you have HT for the 5.1 surround sound and it's a real gaming experience.


Added on March 22, 2011, 3:18 am
Sure, the bigger, the better investment.

42" is minimum for full HD enjoyment at 6' viewing distance.
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PS3 some game no Full HD. Example is Uncharted 2. Sien.

I wonder how is the sound if come from 7.1 surround sound... drool.gif some more now Blu-ray movie is 7.1 liao.


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post Mar 22 2011, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 22 2011, 09:13 AM)
I did try to watch it at the middle row but I cant view the whole screen at a time and all the image are so blur. I get a full vision for last few row and I am more comfortable with it/ smile.gif

I did went to IMAX to watch 1 movies, AD2000 if not mistaken and bought the last row and still few giddy as the screen are damn big and i cannot get use to it.

my personal experience only..
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Err... we don't need to view the whole screen. The reason you see the image blur because you're trying to view everything
at the same time and cannot concentrate on the action. See the important part and blur the other so that you're fully
envelope in the movie. Relax bro. You don't miss anything without focussing in every single pixel of the movie.
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post Mar 22 2011, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 22 2011, 10:28 AM)
Panasonic Asia has not announced its lineup for 2011 as yet. I hope the ST30 that is available in the US/EU is available here and being entry level, hopefully the prices are decent.

The black levels for the ST series seems more than decent (barring black level rise) at 0.008ft/L. I have measured V20s that start at 0.006ft/L and at about 1500hrs are at 0.008ft/L. This shows that the improvements in the 2011 shd be good. With a full 3D CMS for the red, green and blue (primary colours) (this is for complete colour calibration) the ST30 shows a lot of promise.

The floating blacks (occasionally seen in the 2010 V and VT series due to low black levels) seems to be reduced or possibly eliminated (this is not confirmed but some reviewers I know seem to say that its there but much much less).

The positive comments so far are encouraging. This plus the fact that Samsung does not seem to have fixed the Cinema Smooth in its plasma range and not that great black levels on the Sammy flagship plasma for 2011 might help Panny a little.

However, the earthquake might actually slow down supply for the larger panels that are slated for later this year. Only time will tell.

I'm personnally looking forward to the 2D G series and the 3D VT30 series to see how the improvements are compared to the V20 and VT20 seen last year.
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I think the big question is, is the price same as current level of clearance price of V series? Should we
scramble to buy V series at clearance price?

Samsung price point of latest 4 series plasma show that the price is same or higher a bit than the clearance price of 2010 plasma.
Example is 43" plasma (43" and not 42" which is an upgrade) is RM1999 retail price. Can get discount some more. So it seems the
clearance price stuck with the new model of Samsung.
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(msiathot @ Mar 22 2011, 11:51 AM)
With the P42V20 now sold as low as RM2,299 and Samsung's "attractive" pricing for its HD-ready 2011 models, Panasonic Malaysia's would be hard pressed to maintain a premium price for its mainstream 2011 models if it wants to maintain its market share. Meanwhile, the V series is a great buy.

I reckon it is an expensive lesson for the folks at Panasonic Malaysia. It should have gradually lowered the V series prices (like in other mature markets) in Q4 2010 instead of dumping the prices after the 2011 line-up has been announced.


Added on March 22, 2011, 11:54 am

With the P42V20 now sold as low as RM2,299 and Samsung's "attractive" pricing for its HD-ready 2011 models, Panasonic Malaysia's would be hard pressed to maintain a premium price for its mainstream 2011 models if it wants to maintain its market share. Meanwhile, the V series is a great buy.

I reckon it is an expensive lesson for the folks at Panasonic Malaysia. It should have gradually lowered the V series prices (like in other mature markets) in Q4 2010 instead of dumping the prices after the 2011 line-up has been announced.
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LOL.. Panasonic only gradually lower the price of X series below RM2k for 42" in Q4 2010 while
other series remain same price.

Suddenly these few weeks, the V series drop so much.

Where do you see the price 42V20 at RM2299? Its still RM2.4k in Penang. How much do you get
for 50V20?
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 22 2011, 04:37 PM)
imsobloodysick's panasonic thread 42v20k only rm2299
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thanks bro...that's crazy pricing....
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post Mar 22 2011, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 22 2011, 05:02 PM)
btw his account had been suspended for 2years from now without a reason. lolz u might nid to call him or go directly to his shop
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thanks for the info... sweat.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(ckboon @ Mar 22 2011, 05:07 PM)
suspended because selling below cost?? no wonder he stop PM me after i asked him a few question..
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few minutes ago, his thread still exist. Now does not even exist. Must be some crazy things happened.
got it:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/619012

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post Mar 23 2011, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 23 2011, 12:35 PM)
user posted image

looks so so so sleek, elegant and simple!! love the square bottom stand so so much!!
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They are copying Samsung design. My Samsung 40C530 is square bottom stand also. =.=||
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post Mar 23 2011, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 23 2011, 01:02 PM)
here we go, a small peep taken from AVSforum

ST and GT have different processing.

GT and VT have dual power supplies and different processing board setups.

GT and VT are now confirmed to have different processing.

VT has a unique filter to 2011.
P/S

why you guys like square bottoms

i prefer the round one
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Why you guys prefer bottom? I prefer hanging at wall or hanging from Ceiling.
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post Mar 23 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 23 2011, 01:32 PM)
depend on the tv cabinet
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buy new tv cabinet
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post Mar 24 2011, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(tim_1335 @ Mar 24 2011, 02:00 AM)
the snow or noise is normal for plasmas. normally for a 50" tv, it's recommended to at least 2m away from the screen.

u probably won't see the snow when u're seated at this minimum viewing distance.
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really? I'm googling now for this information. I plan to watch 50" plasma in 6~7 feet range.

I thought the plasma disadvantage is just burn-in IR and high power consumption only.


Added on March 24, 2011, 9:26 amI google and found noise and snow only happened after 1 year:
http://plasmascreentelevision.net/what-is-...cal-store/.html

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