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 Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.2, Plasma, LCD & LED models.

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post Mar 11 2011, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 11 2011, 12:48 PM)
has there been any firmware update available from panny malaysia for our V series and wonder if HDD recording with the V is possible ?

anyone with any idea ?
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One single firmware update in Jun2010 to include Skype to VieraCast. That's it as far as I know.

USB HDD recording feature is removed from the Asian version.
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post Mar 11 2011, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 11 2011, 02:55 PM)
THANKS for the info mate

Mr Poorman

bet you must be the most intense user of the V . wonder if you have noticed any rising black . mine at less  than 1,000 hrs haven't seen any changes yet and neither have i seen any floating black as well.

how many of you use bias lighting . the LED blue strips  is just wonderful as it make the  black levels measurement like .004 MLL or better if i change the gamma to -2.4 , although got to compromise on crush of shadow details .black like charcoal. so nice
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3,313 hrs now. I suppose it has stabilised and as a non-critical casual user, I have not noticed drastic degradation in black level under normal ambience. To be sure, I would probably need to engage bro anfieldude's services again to compare against the earlier reading.

As for the bias lighting, I'm not using one yet. Blue LEDs? I thought the most neutral would be the 6500K.


Added on March 11, 2011, 6:57 pm
QUOTE(terranova @ Mar 11 2011, 06:16 PM)
Sorry, but just to clarify. The Hong Kong models comes standard with HD tuner and USB HDD recording. Thought I'd point that out.
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Ah , thanks for the correction.


Added on March 11, 2011, 9:39 pm
QUOTE(jonchoong1980 @ Mar 11 2011, 05:28 PM)
Anybody care to share experiences for the Plasma 42v20K...? Getting one soon. Any comments anyone..
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The comments are littered all over the V1 thread. Anyway, V20 is one of the better ones in the market. You can't go wrong especially with the recent price decrease.

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post Mar 12 2011, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Mar 12 2011, 04:54 PM)
i have not noticed drastic degradation in black level under normal ambience-you mean there are some small degradation

D65 is too whitish for my me. blue is cool.

freakish me. i'm so crazy about this V, i bought a 42'' for my bedroom viewing
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No, can't see any difference from when I first bought it under normal lighting. In darkness, can perceive very slight difference. The panel seems a tiny bit grayer when your eye's pupil dilate enough. Of course, it may be entirely psychological because I was looking for it.

But overall, still very happy with the black level considering the kind of abuse my family throws at it
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post Mar 16 2011, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(kenling @ Mar 16 2011, 03:41 PM)
I have a noobish question about my VIERA TH-P46X20K.

I noticed when watching movies from my pc, the backlight flickers on and off during dark scenes making the picture look horribly grey.

Is there something wrong with my TV or is there a setting I can change to make this not happen?
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How about when you played it on the PC LCD monitor? Do you also see the flickering? This is to eliminate source problem.

It could be the infamous floating black issue which is noticeable when you watch it in a dim environment.

Best to call in Panasonic support to eliminate faulty hardware issues e.g. backlight.
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post Mar 17 2011, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 16 2011, 10:20 PM)
Does the V series plasma have this famous floating black issue?
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All 2010 Panny plasma models have been reported to suffer from this. Some people can notice it clearly. Some don't.

Anfieldude did post something earlier that can alleviate the problem slightly by lowering the brightness setting. Would appreciate if he can remind us again the details.
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post Mar 18 2011, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Mar 18 2011, 07:44 PM)
rclxms.gif panasonic claimed that they have fixed both rising black + floating black defect in their 2011 series plasma

http://hdguru.com/panasonic-proclaims-high...lasma-tvs/4241/
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Not only that, the comments to the article claims the handling of 50Hz material is corrected improved as well!

Looks like 2011 Panny series have resolved most of the issues.

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post Mar 21 2011, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:10 PM)
Am looking for a samsung 32" LCD replacement for my room mostly use for gaming. However my concern is the viewing distance since right now the viewing distance for my 32" is about 6-7 feet approx.

So do you think the panny plasma 42" would be ideal for my room with about 6-7 feet viewing distance?
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42" would be perfect for 6-7 feet viewing distance

QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:45 PM)
ive just made a booking at senq miri for 42v20k at rm2999 with 3years warranty. its the only more reliable 'shop' in miri and also the cheapest u can find in miri. so guys welcome me to the family

btw, to add another 2years warranty u nid to + rm340
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Welcome to the family lol
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 21 2011, 09:13 PM)
If you are going to use it mainly for gaming, you should be aware of the burn-in, IR problem which are inherent of plasma TVs.
So, better take note if you using for gaming...
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It's OK through my own experience. Everyday for 2 hours since Nov2010, I've been using V20 for PS3 gaming. On weekends, straight 8-10 hours playing FF XIII. Once in a while, a bit of IR but that washes away quickly when you switch to other channels.

PS3 setting: HDMI to full range and deep colour to Auto.

HD gaming on V20 is breath taking.

Edit: Oh ... and make sure you have HT for the 5.1 surround sound and it's a real gaming experience.


Added on March 22, 2011, 3:18 am
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 21 2011, 09:29 PM)
I'm using 40" for 6" which I think its not enough. So yeah,
42" is better. 50" will be awesome.
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Sure, the bigger, the better investment.

42" is minimum for full HD enjoyment at 6' viewing distance.

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post Mar 22 2011, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 22 2011, 05:53 PM)
wondering... what is wrong with that to cause his account to be suspended?
Have seen some other people who promote their sales within lowyat forum
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I suppose I can see some problems. The mods can't differentiate between one trader that create multiple ids that recommend sales back to himself or have many partners (or brothers) creating ids with the aim of promoting his product (which creates an illusion of being reliable/popular and that is unethical) against bona fide recommendations from real customers.

iamsobloodysick is already well known enough in lowyat and gisella (being a brother/partner) doesn't need to do any promoting to create suspicious collaboration.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 22 2011, 09:46 PM)
will the 2D G series be comparable to the 2D V series? Let us know when you know smile.gif
like gogo2 mentioned, Im wondering too - should we go for the 2010 V now or wait for the 2011 G or S?
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If price is the most important factor, I suggest you go for the V20 now.

But if you are more interested with the better black levels, less floating/rising blacks, improved 50Hz material handling ... then you should wait for the 2011 models. The price will likely be higher at launch (> RM1-2K, more than that for the 42") unless you are willing to wait until Mar 2012 when they are clearing stocks.

The other factor is the 3D series (ST, GT and VT) pricing. Will Panny Malaysia follow the US direction to make 3D mainstream? And hence the pricing could be very mainstream as well.

Also some features available in the V20 is gone in the replacement G/GT30 (ISFccc professional settings) and only retained in the flagship VT30.
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post Mar 23 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 23 2011, 05:38 PM)
is the internet connection thing important and useful? (V series)
the 2011 models doesnt seems to have this feature except VT series
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Also useful if you can get DLNA to work for most media formats. VieraCast ... I hardly use.
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QUOTE(starship1 @ Mar 26 2011, 09:27 AM)
what are those VT20 and VT50 about ?

must be P50/VT20 which is a 50'' panel. what about the 65'' price?
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If you want 3D, then I suggest you wait for the 2011 models where the price could be much more competitive. Of course if you are just interested in Infinite Black Pro performance, then you should look for the discounted VT20.
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QUOTE(onlymac @ Mar 26 2011, 10:45 AM)
Exactly ... will have to wait and see on price, but in the meantime other than being 3D capable (personally don't care for 3D)  the VT20 has the Infinite Black Pro vs the Infinite Black panel, and it has the THX mode that the V20 lacks.  For my living room the 50" is a bit too big tho, and the P42GT20 looks to be just a stock a V20 with 3D. If the GT20 gets heavily discounted tho then it can be a good deal for anyone who wants to snap up a top set at a great price with a bit of 3D future proofing built in.

Anyone got any discount price on the P42GT20?
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As per the above replies, if you're thinking about GT20 (basically just for 3D), might as well wait for the 2011 models. The VT20, on the other hand, offers better PQ features and therefore, better value especially with the heavily discounted price.

Even when you compare GT20 to the V20, I would still go for the V20 as the 3D feature is way overpriced in 2010.
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QUOTE(onlymac @ Mar 26 2011, 02:44 PM)
Just wish I could get a "real" V20 ... can get in UK for RM3.4k with 5 year guarantee.
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Ah, yes ... all of us wish the same ... with infinite black pro, HDD recording, THX intact at that price. That would be awesome.
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DLNA is definitely not easy to configure. I've tried for several weeks and in the end, gave up. I bought a media player with networking which is easy to use for the family and it can play almost all popular formats straight out of the box.
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More interesting are the RRP for 2011 series:

3D Plasma
P65VT30K To be confirmed
P50VT30K To be confirmed
P55ST30K To be confirmed
P50ST30k To be confirmed
P42UT30K To be confirmed

2D Plasma
P50U30K RM4,499
P50X30K RM3,799
P42U30K RM2,299
P42X30K RM1,999

No Plasma S or G series (2D)??

3D LED/LCD
L37DT30K To be confirmed

2D LED/LCD
L42E30K (LED) To be confirmed
L42E3K (LED) RM3,099
L42U30K RM2,199
L32X30K (LED) RM1,999
L32C30K RM1,299
L32C3K RM1,199
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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 3 2011, 09:04 AM)
Might as well buy from outside shops then. The 50VT is now selling for RM6.5k and the 50U is selling for RM3.5k.
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Your 50U is 20K (2010 version) and not 30K.

Edit: It seems like Panny Malaysia is pushing the entry level 2D and 3D. This probably reflects on the HD content maturity in Asia at the moment.

Well, as long as the price is still fair and in line with entry level, there's not much to dwell on.

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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 4 2011, 09:36 AM)
Yea it's 50U20K, coz DannyOp is referring to the older range mah.
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Small matter but re-read DannyOp's post and you will see he specifically said 50U30K for RM3,999.
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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 01:55 PM)
but the links showed Samsung is more natural and Panasonic is over saturated, there were visible motion artifacts, flicker and judder effects as well.


http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html

http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html
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To be frank, both are flagships and both are plasmas. I would think the PQ differences would not be that significant. If it is so one-sided, there won't be fans for the other camp. The remaining factor would be reliability, after-sales service and price/performance.

Since I post here often, my preference is obvious. Enough of my personal friends who has owned Samsung LCDs/LEDs has convinced me not to buy Samsung. Go ask around for more real world feedback instead of solely relying on just PQ and technicalities alone.
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QUOTE(friexs @ Apr 10 2011, 02:38 PM)
Guys,

I just purchased a brand new L42U29K from carrefour. But when I check the on duration and turn on count, it just disappointed me. It read 2431 and count 334. Is it suppose to be like this? Or should i return back the unit to Carefour? Any idea on how i should deal with this?
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Did Carrefour offer it at a much cheaper price than market and upfront tell you that it's a used unit? If not, then I think you should return it.

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