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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V5, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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post Feb 15 2011, 11:34 PM, updated 15y ago

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V4. Please continue your discussion here.

V1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1642831
V2 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1663020
V3 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1693310
V4 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1728204

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How to differentiate AP and NIKON MALAYSIA warranty set.

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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Dec 1 2010, 10:06 AM)
Nobody answer? Nevermind, I will use my experiences and tell you. So if anyone would like to add further details or do some corrections, please do so  laugh.gif

Firstly, check the outlook for both Body and Lens, if you're happy with it, then proceed to the next stepsssss.  cool2.gif

For the Body:
1. check the Shutter Count, the lower the SC, the better it is, just like a car's milage. Google has a clearer explanation.
2. if the Body has motor and top LCD, make sure they both work well, it's sux if the motor doesn't work, it's sux if the top LCD can't light up.
3. test the Body with various memory cards, you don't want to have error while shooting, don't you? (sometimes it's the memory card that give trouble)
4. test Continuous shoot, will the shutter jam?  rclxub.gif
5. basically you'll have to test everything, every single functions and settings of the body, like ISO, pop-up flash, the condition of hot shoe, the buttons etc etc

As for the lens:
1. it's important that the rubber is still firm.
2. make sure it works on more than ONE Bodies.
3. play with aperture, the zoom if it has, play with it like a toy.
4. if the lens got dust and fungus inside, you can send it for cleaning.
5. if the contact points are dirty, gently use eraser to clean it.
6. if the lens is AF-S, make sure the motor inside is silent while auto focusing, no loud squeaky sound.

what else?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Remember, these are based on my personal experiences, correct me if I'm wrong  notworthy.gif
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Ken Rockwell facts !

Ken Rockwell is the Chuck Norris of photography

Ken Rockwell's camera has similar settings to ours, except his are: P[erfect] Av[Awesome Priority Tv[Totally Awesome Priority] M[ajestic]

Ken Rockwell doesn't color correct. He adjusts your world to match his.

Sure, Ken Rockwell deletes a bad photo or two. Other people call these Pulitzers.

Ken Rockwell doesn't adjust his DOF, he changes space-time.

Circle of confusion? You might be confused. Ken Rockwell never is.

Ken Rockwell doesn't wait for the light when he shoots a landscape - the light waits for him.

Ken Rockwell never flips his camera in portrait position, he flips the earth

Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one.

Ken Rockwell is the only person to have photographed Jesus; unfortunately he ran out of film and had to use a piece of cloth instead.

When Ken Rockwell brackets a shot, the three versions of the photo win first place in three different categories

Before Nikon or Canon releases a camera they go to Ken and they ask him to test them, the best cameras get a Nikon sticker and the less good get a Canon sticker

Once Ken tested a camera, he said I cant even put Canon on this one,thats how Pentax was born

Rockwellian policy isn't doublethink - Ken doesn't even need to think once

Ken Rockwell doesn't use flash ever since the Nagasaki incident.

Only Ken Rockwell can take pictures of Ken Rockwell; everyone else would just get their film overexposed by the light of his genius

Ken Rockwell wanted something to distract the lesser photographers, and lo, there were ducks.

Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you

Ken Rockwell's nudes were fully clothed at the time of exposure

Ken Rockwell once designed a zoom lens. You know it as the Hubble SpaceTelescope.

When Ken unpacks his CF card, it already has masterpieces on it.

Rockwell portraits are so lifelike, they have to pay taxes

On Ken Rockwell's desktop, the Trash Icon is really a link to National Geographic Magazine

Ken Rockwell spells point-and-shoot "h-a-s-s-e-l-b-l-a-d"

When Ken Rockwell went digital, National Geographic nearly went out of business because he was no longer phyically discarding photos

For every 10 shots that Ken Rockwell takes, 11 are keepers.

Ken Rockwell's digital files consist of 0's, 1's AND 2's.

Ken Rockwell never focus, everything moves into his DoF

Ken Rockwell's shots are so perfect, Adobe redesigned photoshop for him: all it consists of is a close button.

The term tripod was coined after his silhouette

Ken Rockwell never produces awful work, only work too advanced for the viewer

A certain braind of hig-end cameras was named after people noticed the quality was a lot "like a" rockwell

Ken Rockwell isn't the Chuck Norris of photography; Chuck Norris is the Ken Rockwell of martial arts.

Ken Rockwell never starts, he continues
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post Feb 15 2011, 11:38 PM

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Sexy natural vignetting yeahhh~ thumbup.gif

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Who is this? whistling.gif rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 15 2011, 11:40 PM

I was like LOL :D
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Guys, need advice. Im planning to get 70200. Its better to buy it online or walk in store. I think price offered by shashinki is good enuff. But afraid to do rm7k transaction online. Lolz
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QUOTE(hapeace @ Feb 15 2011, 11:43 PM)
Guys, need advice. Im planning to get 70200. Its better to buy it online or walk in store. I think price offered by shashinki is good enuff. But afraid to do rm7k transaction online. Lolz
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local store 6.8k
Shashinki good enough ? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 15 2011, 11:44 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Guess who's in bling bling mode yo!
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wah ... !!! didnt know general_nic so leng chai ... more please ... !!! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 15 2011, 11:49 PM)
local store 6.8k
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Omg.. Thanx thanx. Have to redo my homework. Thanx thanx
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 16 2011, 12:04 AM)
"Look at my teeth!!" laugh.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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now who is this pulak ???
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post Feb 16 2011, 12:09 AM

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Hmm, playing around with 14-24 f/2.8 biggrin.gif

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do we need to ask at counter if we want to try the lens? or they just leave it for us to try?
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QUOTE(faareast @ Feb 16 2011, 12:23 AM)
do we need to ask at counter if we want to try the lens? or they just leave it for us to try?
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Have to ask, because all of the lenses are placed in the glass cabinet with locker.
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QUOTE(faareast @ Feb 16 2011, 12:23 AM)
do we need to ask at counter if we want to try the lens? or they just leave it for us to try?
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if like that, i'll be leaving with the lenses laugh.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 16 2011, 12:04 AM)
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haha... so they keep watching laa.. scare to ask for try.. all the other customer comes with monster..
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QUOTE(faareast @ Feb 16 2011, 12:34 AM)
haha... so they keep watching laa.. scare to ask for try.. all the other customer comes with monster..
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80% customer comes in empty handed one lah sweat.gif
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Played with the 1424 a? Waa tat lens wan bring jalan2 oso I scare..front element looks so fragile..
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 16 2011, 12:35 AM)
80% customer comes in empty handed one lah sweat.gif
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Yes, like me, go there just to play play play!
Don't feel shy! They have it there to let you play! They even advertise to ask you and go there to play! laugh.gif
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True mah. Whats the point of going there to play if you yourself already have everything they have it there in the glass cabinet already. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 16 2011, 12:39 AM)
Played with the 1424 a? Waa tat lens wan bring jalan2 oso I scare..front element looks so fragile..
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Indeed. The front look of 14-24mm also looks scary enough rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 16 2011, 01:00 AM)
True mah. Whats the point of going there to play if you yourself already have everything they have it there in the glass cabinet already. tongue.gif
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200 f/2 biggrin.gif

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Feb 16 2011, 08:07 AM)
D3100 new user reporting in...
err...d3100 still didn't have battery grip huh?
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Read somewhere showing the email that Phottix grip will be available soon. Nikon doesn't do BG for their entry levels.
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Gentle reminder D3100 BG will be using IR to trigger
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Not using trigger cable? I think the D5000 used cable right?
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Feb 16 2011, 08:07 AM)
D3100 new user reporting in...
err...d3100 still didn't have battery grip huh?
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U need a BG cuz ur battery drain so fast is it?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 16 2011, 08:42 AM)
Not using trigger cable? I think the D5000 used cable right?
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IR ! smile.gif
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 16 2011, 08:44 AM)
U need a BG cuz ur battery drain so fast is it?
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For the extra grip I guess, D3000/D3100/D5000 grip is small, good to have extra size from the battery grip.

Not everyone buys BG for the extended life. I use grip on my D700 but most of the time only 1 battery at a time. Leceh to detach the grip from body to insert another battery in the body.
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Is CPL effect achievable by PP?
thinking to get CPL for my redang trip. thinking whether it is worth or not. hmm.gif
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How to PP to get CPL effect ? sweat.gif
It's actually works to reduce reflections and glare !
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 16 2011, 10:36 AM)
Is CPL effect achievable by PP?
thinking to get CPL for my redang trip. thinking whether it is worth or not. hmm.gif
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Must buy a CPL if u wanna get rid of surface water reflection. Eg shooting koi fish in pond...
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 10:50 AM)
How to PP to get CPL effect ? sweat.gif
It's actually works to reduce  reflections and glare !
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I want to get the blue sky effect. wondering whether it is achievable by pp

QUOTE(jady @ Feb 16 2011, 10:50 AM)
Must buy a CPL if u wanna get rid of surface water reflection. Eg shooting koi fish in pond...
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How about blue sky?
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u can always increase the saturation of the sky to superblue because that is just playing around with the colours.

But for other effects of the CPL like getting rid of reflections, those can't be done in PP because the CPL is actually changing the properties of the light rays before it reaches your sensor.
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Owhh.. Okay Thanks for the input. I guess I should buy CPL instead of pushing it to PP tongue.gif
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Owhh.. Okay Thanks for the input. I guess I should buy CPL instead of pushing it to PP tongue.gif
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Get a good CPL filter and a thin one if possible. Because usually when you start stacking up filters, if you use the thick ones you might get a bit of vignetting.
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B+W super thin cost around 500 !
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Get a good CPL filter and a thin one if possible. Because usually when you start stacking up filters, if you use the thick ones you might get a bit of vignetting.
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vignetting got more art feel whistling.gif
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I need help here. Anyone know if camera rental service is available in Malaysia?
My friend work in SG design firm need to rent D3X. He contacted rental shop in SG, not available for the date he want. 21th to 28th Feb this month.

So very urgent, please recommend if there is any.
Thanks!!
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 11:43 AM)
B+W super thin cost around 500 !
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Nikon one around 200+ i think...well, below 300. smile.gif

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QUOTE(jady @ Feb 16 2011, 11:54 AM)
I need help here. Anyone know if camera rental service is available in Malaysia?
My friend work in SG design firm need to rent D3X. He contacted rental shop in SG, not available for the date he want. 21th to 28th Feb this month.

So very urgent, please recommend if there is any.
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i remember there is one in LYN forum.. but cant remember the name.. u can try search in service..
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 11:43 AM)
B+W super thin cost around 500 !
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Not that high isn't? sweat.gif

I referred here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=227&t=1715740 unsure.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 16 2011, 12:17 PM)
Not that high isn't? sweat.gif

I referred here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=227&t=1715740 unsure.gif
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Those are UV only...and definitely not slim type. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(faareast @ Feb 16 2011, 12:05 PM)
i remember there is one in LYN forum.. but cant remember the name.. u can try search in service..
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edit: found a unit already hehe

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 11:43 AM)
B+W super thin cost around 500 !
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wat is de size?
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Feb 16 2011, 12:19 PM)
Those are UV only...and definitely not slim type. tongue.gif
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Yeah, UV only. XS-Pro @ 3mm not consider slim meh? unsure.gif

Please enlighten me as I'm new smile.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 16 2011, 01:03 PM)
Yeah, UV only. XS-Pro @ 3mm not consider slim meh? unsure.gif

Please enlighten me as I'm new smile.gif
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I am inquiring about CPL bro not UV tongue.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 08:46 AM)
IR ! smile.gif
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D3100 oso dun have IR receiver la, how to use IR? doh.gif
most likely using external cable trigger like D5000 la, since D3100 has d remote port
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 16 2011, 12:17 PM)
Not that high isn't? sweat.gif

I referred here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=227&t=1715740 unsure.gif
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That's UV la doh.gif
People talking about CPL

QUOTE(skycrawler @ Feb 16 2011, 12:48 PM)
wat is de size?
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77mm !

QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 16 2011, 01:16 PM)
D3100 oso dun have IR receiver la, how to use IR?  doh.gif
most likely using external cable trigger like D5000 la, since D3100 has d remote port
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remote control got ma. Using that remote IR la sleep.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 01:38 PM)
remote control got ma. Using that remote IR la sleep.gif
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err, IR not wireless meh?
that remote port is for cable remote, no?
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 16 2011, 01:12 PM)
I am inquiring about CPL bro not UV tongue.gif
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B+W CPL MRC F-Pro 77mm SGD170 brows.gif

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 16 2011, 01:41 PM)
err, IR not wireless meh?
that remote port is for cable remote, no?
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IIRC la. I saw certain brand BG using wireless remote as the trigger from BG.
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QUOTE(jady @ Feb 16 2011, 01:45 PM)
B+W CPL MRC F-Pro 77mm SGD170  brows.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 16 2011, 01:54 PM)
walawe.. very expensive lar.. let me check on LYP. hopefully I can pretty decent price for CPL filter
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Cheap thing no good, good thing not cheap whistling.gif
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gotta find the best bargain. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 16 2011, 01:12 PM)
I am inquiring about CPL bro not UV tongue.gif
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That's UV la doh.gif
People talking about CPL
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Sorry sorry... didn't notice the discussion earlier and straight away jump into conclusion tongue.gif doh.gif
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Hii...
I want to buy Battery Grip Mb-D80 for my D90...
but if i using with Ni-Mh Battery (eneloop)..
What about the performance about this grip with ni-mh battery??
anyone hv any experienced??
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I'd say, get the original battery better !
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Original expensive maa...
like me..
student..
out of budget...
hehehe....

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2011, 02:03 PM)
can see from avatar.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kakisemut @ Feb 16 2011, 02:05 PM)
Original expensive maa...
like me..
student..
out of budget...
hehehe....
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Isn't you just made the decision yourself? huh.gif

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Isn't you just made the decision yourself? huh.gif
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if not ok...
i will funding for the battery...
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QUOTE(kakisemut @ Feb 16 2011, 02:05 PM)
Original expensive maa...
like me..
student..
out of budget...
hehehe....
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Eneloop battery and the original battery diff by RM 100 only. Student can't fork out extra RM 100 ? Don't kid me
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 02:14 PM)
Eneloop battery and the original battery diff by RM 100 only. Student can't fork out extra RM 100 ? Don't kid me
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Then don't play dslr. It's an expensive toys sleep.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 16 2011, 08:42 AM)
Not using trigger cable? I think the D5000 used cable right?
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D5k BG got 2 types, one is cable type like General_Nic using, the other one is IR.

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I want to get the blue sky effect. wondering whether it is achievable by pp
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Try playing with exposure. Like -0.3 or so

QUOTE(kakisemut @ Feb 16 2011, 02:09 PM)
nope...
im just want opinion....
if not ok...
i will funding for the battery...
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I would suggest you to go for EN-EL3e battery as well. Long term investment. Eneloop batteries are "specially made" for flash brows.gif

Extra info, by using 2 EN-EL3e batteries and BG, it will use the right battery 1st until 0% then only will use the 2nd battery on the left side.
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QUOTE(kakisemut @ Feb 16 2011, 02:09 PM)
nope...
im just want opinion....
if not ok...
i will funding for the battery...
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I suggest you save your money first then get the original one , later 3rd party battery goes wrong , then dont blame the battery suck that time.

No choice just only go for 3rd party. (No choice mean no original product like BG for nikon d3100 then you have to buy 3rd party , example.)


QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 01:54 PM)
IIRC la. I saw certain brand BG using wireless remote as the trigger from BG.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 16 2011, 02:14 PM)
Eneloop battery and the original battery diff by RM 100 only. Student can't fork out extra RM 100 ? Don't kid me
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will work out but take times...

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2011, 02:18 PM)
i working also cannnot fork out extra 100  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 16 2011, 02:25 PM)
D5k BG got 2 types, one is cable type like General_Nic using, the other one is IR.

Try playing with exposure. Like -0.3 or so

I would suggest you to go for EN-EL3e battery as well. Long term investment. Eneloop batteries are "specially made" for flash  brows.gif

Extra info, by using 2 EN-EL3e batteries and BG, it will use the right battery 1st until 0% then only will use the 2nd battery on the left side.
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 16 2011, 02:27 PM)
Starting to fund for D400 !  wub.gif
I suggest you save your money first then get the original one , later 3rd party battery goes wrong , then dont blame the battery suck that time.

No choice just only go for 3rd party.  (No choice mean no original product like BG for nikon d3100 then you have to buy 3rd party , example.)
Hopefully no IR for D3100  sad.gif
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BG in D3100 totally troublesome. I think I will be in D7000 or something by then. sweat.gif
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Then don't play dslr. It's an expensive toys sleep.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2011, 02:49 PM)
but once make until skillful it can make money wor  laugh.gif
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D400??
new model??
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@aldosoesilo - Come to think of it, try using D-Lightning function for your upcoming Redang trip as well laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 16 2011, 01:58 PM)
budgeted photog here. can't help ma. hahaha..
gotta find the best bargain.  tongue.gif
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before so you need to have the skill. and skill come from experience, you need in invest on it before you can experience it. tongue.gif
Correct me if I am wrong.  tongue.gif
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also photography related to drawing which help construct bg drawing skill bla bla which angle to draw also related to film stuff bla bla blablablalblablalba laugh.gif
(but until now i still draw stick figures. blush.gif dun dare show here sweat.gif )

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QUOTE(kakisemut @ Feb 16 2011, 02:53 PM)
D400??
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or rumours?
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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 16 2011, 02:54 PM)
@aldosoesilo - Come to think of it, try using D-Lightning function for your upcoming Redang trip as well  laugh.gif
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to be honest I am not really sure about the function of D-lightning. but I always have it on. tongue.gif
Thanks for the advice anyway. I want to capture landscape this time. smile.gif

QUOTE(jady @ Feb 16 2011, 02:56 PM)
Then buy Hoya lor.. cheaper hehe
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Yeah.. thinking to get either hoya or kenko. but again depends on the price.
suppose to be ok even w/o CPL right?


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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2011, 02:59 PM)
laugh.gif  thumbup.gif

also photography related to drawing which help construct bg drawing skill bla bla which angle to draw also related to film stuff bla bla blablablalblablalba  laugh.gif
(but until now i still draw stick figures.  blush.gif  dun dare show here  sweat.gif )
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really. I don't get what are you trying to say. shakehead.gif

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waa...
which model will be replaced??
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2011, 02:49 PM)
but once make until skillful it can make money wor  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kakisemut @ Feb 16 2011, 03:02 PM)
waa...
which model will be replaced??
hmm.gif
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See whether it is a significantly comparable to d7k or not. tongue.gif
else I'd just grab D7k or stick with mine. hahaha
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 16 2011, 03:00 PM)
new upcoming model tongue.gif
to be honest I am not really sure about the function of D-lightning. but I always have it on. tongue.gif
Thanks for the advice anyway. I want to capture landscape this time.  smile.gif
Yeah.. thinking to get either hoya or kenko. but again depends on the price.
suppose to be ok even w/o CPL right?


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really. I don't get what are you trying to say.  shakehead.gif
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lol, you and I got typo, it's D-lighting, not D-lightning XD
Erm erm, not the "Active D-Lighting", there's another "D-Lighting" function icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 16 2011, 03:03 PM)
D300s  flex.gif
See whether it is a significantly comparable to d7k or not.  tongue.gif
else I'd just grab D7k or stick with mine. hahaha
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owh...
hehe...
just wait n see...
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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 16 2011, 03:05 PM)
lol, you and I got typo, it's D-lighting, not D-lightning XD
Erm erm, not the "Active D-Lighting", there's another "D-Lighting" function icon_rolleyes.gif
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hmm.gif does it mean Active D-lighting and D-lighting is two different things? mind to share some knowledge?
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really. I don't get what are you trying to say.  shakehead.gif
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i mean photography , drawing stuff , and filmtography can be related...anyway that are visual arts...

let's say when i draw a scene of street, i need perspective also ma...also had to apply rules of third bla bla... sweat.gif

lazy to explain long..
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2011, 03:20 PM)
i mean photography , drawing stuff , and filmtography can be related...anyway that are visual arts...

let's say when i draw a scene of street, i need perspective also ma...also had to apply rules of third bla bla... sweat.gif

lazy to explain long..
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 16 2011, 02:49 PM)
but once make until skillful it can make money wor  laugh.gif
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Competition is growing everyday, more and more people have DSLR and want to make money. tongue.gif

The bad part is many people are spoling the market/reputation of professionals, especially for Weddings. Weddings are important moments, but not everyone take it seriously when accepting the job. This spoils the market and image/reputation of photographers, hence why some people start to pick-up DSLR because they can do it too.

Just saying from what I've seen.

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Competition is growing everyday, more and more people have DSLR and want to make money.  tongue.gif

The bad part is many people are spoling the market/reputation of professionals, especially for Weddings. Weddings are important moments, but not everyone take it seriously when accepting the job. This spoils the market and image/reputation of photographers, hence why some people start to pick-up DSLR because they can do it too.

Just saying from what I've seen.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 16 2011, 03:42 PM)
Competition is growing everyday, more and more people have DSLR and want to make money.  tongue.gif

The bad part is many people are spoling the market/reputation of professionals, especially for Weddings. Weddings are important moments, but not everyone take it seriously when accepting the job. This spoils the market and image/reputation of photographers, hence why some people start to pick-up DSLR because they can do it too.

Just saying from what I've seen.
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Opss.. typo. sorry tongue.gif
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Check this Out on Active D-Lighting Test
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IIRC la. I saw certain brand BG using wireless remote as the trigger from BG.
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Hopefully no IR for D3100  sad.gif
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Probably cable already then, it has the socket for cable release right?
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Hye guys, wanna ask for ur opinion.

My wife n me suddenly got an invitation to go holiday to new zealand this july (winter season dat time). What lens should i bring there? Actually im funding to buy 70200 but dun think its suitable for travel right..

Or should i stick to my plan buying 70200 and start building muscles now?

Budget is around price for 70200, less then rm7k.

Thank you.
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QUOTE(hapeace @ Feb 16 2011, 05:01 PM)
Hye guys, wanna ask for ur opinion.

My wife n me suddenly got an invitation to go holiday to new zealand this july (winter season dat time). What lens should i bring there? Actually im funding to buy 70200 but dun think its suitable for travel right..

Or should i stick to my plan buying 70200 and start building muscles now?

Budget is around price for 70200, less then rm7k.

Thank you.
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carry less/lighter gear if you want to enjoy the holiday. if you want to take pics first, holiday second, by all means, get the 70200.

at least that's how i do it. carrying kilograms on your back is not fun!
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Can reconmmend any good lens to capture moving item and lanscape???Sorry i am very noob in DSLR just bought my DSLR last week
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QUOTE(Irfan2397 @ Feb 16 2011, 05:16 PM)
Can reconmmend any good lens to capture moving item and lanscape???Sorry i am very noob in DSLR just bought my DSLR last week
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Can reconmmend any good lens to capture moving item and lanscape???Sorry i am very noob in DSLR just bought my DSLR last week
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wan also explain higher (insert here) setting , get more clearer / blurry picture? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 16 2011, 09:15 AM)
For the extra grip I guess, D3000/D3100/D5000 grip is small, good to have extra size from the battery grip.

Not everyone buys BG for the extended life. I use grip on my D700 but most of the time only 1 battery at a time. Leceh to detach the grip from body to insert another battery in the body.
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Came to think of it, yes d3100 is a small camera. Hold in hands oso feels small. Even though my hands is small. Vertical shooting and extra grip maybe laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fubs @ Feb 16 2011, 05:12 PM)
carry less/lighter gear if you want to enjoy the holiday. if you want to take pics first, holiday second, by all means, get the 70200.

at least that's how i do it. carrying kilograms on your back is not fun!
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So i'll bring my d90 w BG, 11-16 for scenery and also 70200 as my all time lens right? I think i can manage that.
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QUOTE(hapeace @ Feb 16 2011, 05:01 PM)
Hye guys, wanna ask for ur opinion.

My wife n me suddenly got an invitation to go holiday to new zealand this july (winter season dat time). What lens should i bring there? Actually im funding to buy 70200 but dun think its suitable for travel right..

Or should i stick to my plan buying 70200 and start building muscles now?

Budget is around price for 70200, less then rm7k.

Thank you.
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i'll stick to wat u have for me, i think 70mm on a DX are a bit tele.
Depends wat type of shooter u r also and ur trip itenanry.
if free n easy and u have all d time to change lens and dun mind xtra weight, sure 70-200mm is good to capture high IQ images.

experience with 2 trip lugging with me atx116, 50mm & 80-200mm.
chances are...i shoot less than 10% of my photos with 80-200mm.
well, tats my case.

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 16 2011, 03:57 PM)
like i said, D3100 dun even have a IR receiver on d body grip like D3000/D60/D90, how to have IR BG?  sweat.gif
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BG in D3100 totally troublesome. I think I will be in D7000 or something by then.  sweat.gif
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Why troublesome?

I was thinking D7000 but i think i want to get D400 if there is any.
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This is called lazy to compo tongue.gif the eyes cun cun in the middle AF area tongue.gif
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This is called lazy to compo tongue.gif the eyes cun cun in the middle AF area tongue.gif
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Dont worry just buy [insert what you wanna buy here] and your picture will automatically have a good composition laugh.gif tongue.gif
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Wondering would it go even lower the next few months, hoping it would reduce to about 5500, possible?
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The cheapest I saw was 5999 by DY Divine.
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Unlikely, the price of D90 didn't drop further when D7000 came to market anyways. It already dropped before that. Nikon does things differently compared to Canon.
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If you prepare to play the waiting game then sure, also take note that when D800 came out...the price will be higher then current D700 icon_idea.gif
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Previously you mentioned you didn't notice any noise/grain even at high ISO; Now can you notice?
If still no, what about zooming in? What ISO is this?

Try using flash and you can lower the ISO and then see the difference..... but I think you already sold your flash...

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bagman bag. size similar to crumpler 7mdh

octopus bag pack . nt bad imo , but i didnt use lah
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You think it's vegetables in market price can simply drop meh ? laugh.gif
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I'm using a laptop bag I got for free from buying a game. mellow.gif
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The bag enough to fit DSLR's size? laugh.gif

QUOTE(hkenh @ Feb 16 2011, 10:35 PM)
nice sling bag the incase ari marcopoulos
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Feb 16 2011, 10:35 PM)
bagman bag. size similar to crumpler 7mdh

octopus bag pack . nt bad imo , but i didnt use lah
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yeah laptop bag disguise  brows.gif  brows.gif
so no need scare when carring camera go around.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 16 2011, 10:25 PM)
Can we talk a bit about bag here other than only body and lens? unsure.gif

Since it's Nikon fans thread, we can share what bag we used to keep our beloved DSLR in safe tongue.gif

Any recommendation for sling bags within RM100~RM200++ budget?
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I using Bagman L size.
The build quality is grade OK lah since you pay what u use.
but if u have tight budget but need plenty space of camera bags space, the bagman are consider good choice rclxms.gif

p/s: dont judge the bags by its price. sometimes, it more better that expensive one wink.gif


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p/s: dont judge the bags by its price. sometimes, it more better that expensive one wink.gif
*sometimes lah. not most of the time laugh.gif
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i used to think that. but then i tried a friend's domke bag. worth every penny i don't have cry.gif

guess we won't know how good it is until we've used it unsure.gif
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 16 2011, 08:05 PM)
dont too lazy till crop also malas
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mind to share how to crop it to make it nicer?
not lazy la bro but. don't know. hahaha

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Previously you mentioned you didn't notice any noise/grain even at high ISO; Now can you notice?
If still no, what about zooming in? What ISO is this?

Try using flash and you can lower the ISO and then see the difference..... but I think you already sold your flash...
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that is ISO 3200. pretty good I suppose. Yeah I sold of mine. Later might grab 1 again. either when phottix come out with D3100 BG or upgrade body. hahaha tongue.gif
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this is the best i can crop since u chopped out the hand already..
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At 3200 ISO its pretty good for a crop sensor.
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this is the best i can crop since u chopped out the hand already..
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if the hand is already chopped, then crop off the hand and go tighter.
this way also u get rid of the irritating guy in the background.
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if the hand is already chopped, then crop off the hand and go tighter.
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The bag enough to fit DSLR's size? laugh.gif
Let me go check it out hmm.gif
Just saw Bagman today, one of the model selling at RM150. Kinda attracting from its look smile.gif
Then if laptop tak takut lah? laugh.gif
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Haha...yeah, surprisingly enough to fit my d90 (with a smaller bag), my flash, another lens and a netbook. biggrin.gif Free bag rulz! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 16 2011, 10:25 PM)
Can we talk a bit about bag here other than only body and lens? unsure.gif

Since it's Nikon fans thread, we can share what bag we used to keep our beloved DSLR in safe tongue.gif

Any recommendation for sling bags within RM100~RM200++ budget?
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most of the time i use a lowepro passport sling, brand new around RM230, its just enough for body + 1 moderate lens.
u can put another lens in but outside the padded internal area.
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great for my eyes tonight...
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 16 2011, 11:03 PM)
mind to share how to crop it to make it nicer?
not lazy la bro but. don't know. hahaha
that is ISO 3200. pretty good I suppose. Yeah I sold of mine. Later might grab 1 again. either when phottix come out with D3100 BG or upgrade body. hahaha tongue.gif
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Not saying good or bad ISO performance, just that previously you mentioned you notice NO noise/grain and cannot tell difference with ISO 100. Now, this picture at this size, the noise/gain is noticeable and you can see it affected some of the details; Not that I'm complaining or anything, I'm just highlighting because of what you mentioned before.

As for the noise, most important is to get a properly exposed picture; If you're limited to the aperture and shutter speed, then you have no choice to increase the ISO (unless you use flash); it's better than if you underexpose, which will be worst.

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Feb 16 2011, 11:39 PM)
nice~! almost same with roy zakaria shoot. are u frens?

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RM6100 to be exact. Wait for D800 then, price of D700 will surely drop  cool.gif
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RM6020 i asked d .

Ezrasang , your fastpack bag can carry tripod along or not?


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 16 2011, 11:50 PM)
Not saying good or bad ISO performance, just that previously you mentioned you notice NO noise/grain and cannot tell difference with ISO 100. Now, this picture at this size, the noise/gain is noticeable and you can see it affected some of the details; Not that I'm complaining or anything, I'm just highlighting because of what you mentioned before.

As for the noise, most important is to get a properly exposed picture; If you're limited to the aperture and shutter speed, then you have no choice to increase the ISO (unless you use flash); it's better than if you underexpose, which will be worst.
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Ya , i can see there is NOISE even u dont zoom
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QUOTE(kakisemut @ Feb 16 2011, 11:50 PM)
nice picture bro...
great for my eyes tonight...
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nice~! almost same with roy zakaria shoot. are u frens?
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Thanks. Nope.
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Almost fool by it thinking wow sushi! laugh.gif
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RM6020 i asked d .

Ezrasang , your fastpack bag can carry tripod along or not?
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Cannot carry any tripod, no slot for it also vmad.gif mad.gif
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Cannot carry any tripod, no slot for it also  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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if got slot also, i donwan carry tripod.. very heavy leh! laugh.gif
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this is the best i can crop since u chopped out the hand already..
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I thought mine was not chopped. rclxub.gif
or you have the different version with mine? doh.gif
how come o?

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aldosoesilo : i spot a dust on ur sensor... or is it my eyes prob?
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naahhh.. left hand chopped.. better train ur eyes also.. whistling.gif

and.. PLEASE use spoiler.. its there to be use wink.gif


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drool.gif nice.... can PP it into miniature icon_idea.gif

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yummy... looks like sushi.. taste like doughnut.... price like chikenchop... rclxms.gif


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nevermind.. finished upload in flikr already..

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yummy... looks like sushi.. taste like doughnut.... price like chikenchop...  rclxms.gif

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you mean looks like D7000 , taste like D3100, price like D700s? laugh.gif
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you mean looks like D7000 , taste like D3100, price like D700s?  laugh.gif
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True! Camera gears in bag already hit 5kg, then plus laptop about 2.5kg, gosh... doh.gif
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Cannot carry any tripod, no slot for it also  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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Vertex is good but out of my budget sad.gif can put laptop and tripod


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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 12:03 AM)
RM6020 i asked d .

Ezrasang , your fastpack bag can carry tripod along or not?
Ya , i can see there is NOISE even u dont zoom
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come look for me lol for latest price..

price wont usesually drop look at D90 didnt drop even d7000 out
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Original confirm got already. 3rd party, soon perhaps?

QUOTE(mitmivec @ Feb 17 2011, 01:29 AM)
come look for me lol for latest price..

price wont usesually drop look at D90 didnt drop even d7000 out
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D7000 is not a replacement of D90 either. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 16 2011, 11:50 PM)
Not saying good or bad ISO performance, just that previously you mentioned you notice NO noise/grain and cannot tell difference with ISO 100. Now, this picture at this size, the noise/gain is noticeable and you can see it affected some of the details; Not that I'm complaining or anything, I'm just highlighting because of what you mentioned before.

As for the noise, most important is to get a properly exposed picture; If you're limited to the aperture and shutter speed, then you have no choice to increase the ISO (unless you use flash); it's better than if you underexpose, which will be worst.
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Yup.. I do realize that. previously I couldn't recognize the detail difference by ISO performance.

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naahhh.. left hand chopped.. better train ur eyes also..  whistling.gif

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Hi, i'm newbie in DSLR camera and plan to buy Nikon D3100. I need some advice before i buy it. My main use on this camera is landscape and portrait picture, hence I plan to buy 2 more lens which are

1. Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED IF AF-S DX VR Nikkor Zoom Lens
2. Nikon 35mm f/1.8G AF-S DX Lens

Do you think these lens are reasonable choices? Is external flash a necessary to have?
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Nice shot bro, looks yummy. how is the lighting of this pics?

Btw guys, im going to travel to some winter country. what is the precaution i should take as this is the first time i travel with my dslr, and also to winter country. And what is the best aperture to use for landscape shot? because i find my pictures not that sharp at F8 or F10 (HDR bracketing thou). am using Tamron 17-50mm VC.

Thanks a lot in advance!

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Nice shot bro, looks yummy. how is the lighting of this pics?

Btw guys, im going to travel to some winter country. what is the precaution i should take as this is the first time i travel with my dslr, and also to winter country. And what is the best aperture to use for landscape shot? because i find my pictures not that sharp at F8 or F10 (HDR bracketing thou). am using Tamron 17-50mm VC.

Thanks a lot in advance!

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Ive been to nami island during winter. Dat time snowy and the temperature at least -4 degree(celcius) plus the wind make it colder.. IMO, u need to bring extra batteries. During my visit there, my sony cybershot can only last 20-30 pics and the photographer who accompany us (he use dslr, cant remember what model) also change batteries of his dslr a few time.

I wonder how low temperature affect the mechanism inside the battery.
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QUOTE(Worms @ Feb 17 2011, 05:43 AM)
Hi, i'm newbie in DSLR camera and plan to buy Nikon D3100. I need some advice before i buy it. My main use on this camera is landscape and portrait picture, hence I plan to buy 2 more lens which are

1. Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED IF AF-S DX VR Nikkor Zoom Lens
2. Nikon 35mm f/1.8G AF-S DX Lens

Do you think these lens are reasonable choices? Is external flash a necessary to have?
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if u want long, get the 70-300mm VR instead, price will come up to around the same as both those lenses combined.
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During snowing time I took my dslr out to play for one whole day. Shoot2 non stop tat day oso. At the end of the day my battery still got around 1/4. No BG yah. N I don't use liveview at all, preview images sometime oni. Works well for me. In my case, I don't need any extra battery, cuz night time sampai hotel can change the battery aledi biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 17 2011, 09:07 AM)
During snowing time I took my dslr out to play for one whole day. Shoot2 non stop tat day oso. At the end of the day my battery still got around 1/4. No BG yah. N I don't use liveview at all, preview images sometime oni. Works well for me. In my case, I don't need any extra battery, cuz night time sampai hotel can change the battery aledi biggrin.gif
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for entry level body you have to play with your lcd screen. sad.gif
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for entry level body you have to play with your lcd screen. sad.gif
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hmm.gif that actually make some sense. As for higher bodies than the entry levels, we have the upper screen to alter things. So i dont really know how the entry level battery will serve ya. maybe someone can confirm this one?
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 17 2011, 09:16 AM)
hmm.gif that actually make some sense. As for higher bodies than the entry levels, we have the upper screen to alter things. So i dont really know how the entry level battery will serve ya. maybe someone can confirm this one?
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you mean begginer spec DSLR dun have view finder!? blink.gif

ya i also heard cold weather will affect battery performance a lot. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 09:19 AM)
you mean begginer spec DSLR dun have view finder!?  blink.gif
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morning nikonians,i want to ask about d300s

1)is it worth to buy it for my 2nd body?
2)what type port at the front of d300s body beside lens?(the covered with rubber)

FYI,i'm owner of d90

the way i see if i buy d7000, it would be more expensive than d300s

need y'all opinions.
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 17 2011, 09:16 AM)
hmm.gif that actually make some sense. As for higher bodies than the entry levels, we have the upper screen to alter things. So i dont really know how the entry level battery will serve ya. maybe someone can confirm this one?
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confirm the battery drained faster. especially for me. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(juruteknikmuda89 @ Feb 17 2011, 09:44 AM)
morning nikonians,i want to ask about d300s

1)is it worth to buy it for my 2nd body?
2)what type port at the front of d300s body beside lens?(the covered with rubber)

FYI,i'm owner of d90

the way i see if i buy d7000, it would be more expensive than d300s

need y'all opinions.
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people usually has different sensor format for two types of body.
1 FX and another one DX so they can get wider coverage for range as DX (range * 1.5)
for me D7k is better than D300s.
but as I love the built-in quality of D300s. I'll just wait for D400.
Hopefully it's not too expensive for my reach. tongue.gif
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d400 will coming out?
replacement for d300s?

never thought about it.
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QUOTE(juruteknikmuda89 @ Feb 17 2011, 09:44 AM)
morning nikonians,i want to ask about d300s

1)is it worth to buy it for my 2nd body?
2)what type port at the front of d300s body beside lens?(the covered with rubber)

FYI,i'm owner of d90

the way i see if i buy d7000, it would be more expensive than d300s

need y'all opinions.
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Err..I don't mean that.
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sorry i m outdated...got D70s only. sweat.gif D7000 got that?
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ya i also heard cold weather will affect battery performance a lot.  nod.gif
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So does heat  smile.gif
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XS-Pro is the slimmest right ?
And Hoya HD also can't beat slimnest of XS-Pro ?
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QUOTE(SeanLee85 @ Feb 16 2011, 10:51 PM)
Bad thgs is uk and us is out of stock(Lee Filters Digital Starter Kit ). I did find out Singapore Cathay got stock. but singapore got 7% gst, then not worth. So i try look in Malaysia, see got luck or not.
If you fly into Singapore, you can claim back the GST. Else, if you ask them to send the item out by post to you, tell them that GST should not be applicable.

Else, you can try and source Ebay.
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KTCY...u dont want to sell ur extra battery ka?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 10:02 AM)
then what is that?  laugh.gif
sorry i m outdated...got D70s only.  sweat.gif  D7000 got that?
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Dude, I seriously don't get what u r trying to say. Firstly I didn't say anything about viewfinder and suddenly u said I say that entry level bodies don't have viewfinders. I suggest u read back what I wrote. After all. If u do own a d70s, u should know what I'm talking about.

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 17 2011, 10:48 AM)
Please correct me as I abit confuse regarding B + W filter sweat.gif
XS-Pro is the slimmest right ?
And Hoya HD also can't beat slimnest of XS-Pro ?
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Not sure about the thickness of the glass myself, but the frame yes. XS-PRO's filter frame is slimmer than Hoya HD's. smile.gif
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Not sure about the thickness of the glass myself, but the frame yes. XS-PRO's filter frame is slimmer than Hoya HD's. smile.gif
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Slim might not be a good thing. You'll struggle to put on the lens cap.
Lots of pro says never use Hoya as it is overpriced and their coating is on top of the glass instead of in between.
I have no idea. But I'll go with B+W anyday.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 17 2011, 10:48 AM)
Please correct me as I abit confuse regarding B + W filter sweat.gif
XS-Pro is the slimmest right ?
And Hoya HD also can't beat slimnest of XS-Pro ?
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Frame wise yes XS-Pro is slimmer than Hoya HD.

pikipiki, I have both HD and XS-Pro on my lens, I don't think it is harder to put the cap on XS-Pro as compared to HD.
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Uhmm.. I have no knowledge when it comes to filter. so mind to share why people want slimmer filter?
I thought it is useful for lens protection. why slim ka?
isn't that thick filter good for protection?
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 11:35 AM)
Uhmm.. I have no knowledge when it comes to filter. so mind to share why people want slimmer filter?
I thought it is useful for lens protection. why slim ka?
isn't that thick filter good for protection?
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One advantage of having slimmer frame is that it prevents vignetting especially when used with wide lenses.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 17 2011, 11:32 AM)
Frame wise yes XS-Pro is slimmer than Hoya HD.

pikipiki, I have both HD and XS-Pro on my lens, I don't think it is harder to put the cap on XS-Pro as compared to HD.
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 17 2011, 11:12 AM)
Dude, I seriously don't get what u r trying to say. Firstly I didn't say anything about viewfinder and suddenly u said I say that entry level bodies don't have viewfinders. I suggest u read back what I wrote. After all. If u do own a d70s, u should know what I'm talking about.
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i thought there got another screen beside lcd screen/monitor in DSLR body? rclxub.gif

then i look at the interned camera got 2 parts can use eye to view what...1) view finder 2) monitor/LCD screen...

based from the posts above , i thought the "upper screen" is the view finder? like view cam? inside got electronic stuff can preview picture? (alternate choice to preview in LCD screen/monitor) rclxub.gif


blur blur... sweat.gif
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I suppose what Tony meant is the top LCD display on mid-upper entry DSLR bodies. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 11:49 AM)
what i read from here...

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i thought there got another screen beside lcd screen/monitor in DSLR body?  rclxub.gif

then i look at the interned camera got 2 parts can use eye to view what...1) view finder 2) monitor/LCD screen...

based from the posts above , i thought the "upper screen" is the view finder? like view cam? inside got electronic stuff can preview picture? (alternate choice to preview in LCD screen/monitor)  rclxub.gif
blur blur... sweat.gif
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It's obvious he meant the top LCD. doh.gif
Try and read or go Youtube watch about the latest dslr bro. wink.gif
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anyone from malacca here?
thinking of going down jonker street for a day or 2.
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 12:02 PM)
It's obvious he meant the top LCD.  doh.gif
Try and read or go Youtube watch about the latest dslr bro.  wink.gif
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doh.gif owh.... oh gosh i was thinking another thing...because from previous post i thought they wan preview the picture...not adjust setting... so never thought that was top lcd sweat.gif
rupa rupa nya is "adjust setting" doh.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 12:12 PM)
doh.gif owh.... oh gosh i was thinking another thing...because from previous post i thought they wan preview the picture...not adjust setting... so never thought that was top lcd sweat.gif
rupa rupa nya is "adjust setting"  doh.gif
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Yeah, because the entry-level dslr doesn't have the top LCD to change settings, in order to do so they have to rely on the screen which consume a lot of battery power.




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hi all! need a lil opinion here. i a newbie at PG, and have a basic D5000 with 18-55mm vr lens for about a year now. i think its bout time to get my lonely camera some new lens. prob is, i have no idea what to get next. with ltd budget, ive narrowed down to

vr 70-300mm
vr 55-300mm
vr 55-200mm

any suggestion/opinion on this? or alt lens that i shud get? big thanks!
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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Feb 17 2011, 11:41 AM)
One advantage of having slimmer frame is that it prevents vignetting especially when used with wide lenses.
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Woahh? for vignetting prevention only? but he price difference a lot lor. hmm.gif

QUOTE(daze @ Feb 17 2011, 12:09 PM)
anyone from malacca here?
thinking of going down jonker street for a day or 2.
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Next month. Will be there eat chicken rice ball and cendol. hahaha

QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 12:18 PM)
Yeah, because the entry-level dslr doesn't have the top LCD to change settings, in order to do so they have to rely on the screen which consume a lot of battery power.
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doesnt the entry level viewfinder show info such as shutter / aperture / iso?

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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 12:20 PM)
hi all! need a lil opinion here. i a newbie at PG, and have a basic D5000 with 18-55mm vr lens for about a year now. i think its bout time to get my lonely camera some new lens. prob is, i have no idea what to get next.  with ltd budget, ive narrowed down to

vr 70-300mm
vr 55-300mm
vr 55-200mm

any suggestion/opinion on this? or alt lens that i shud get? big thanks!
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vr 70-300mm = cant be AF since this lens doesn't have motor. this lens are AF
vr 55-300mm = new lens, improve local length and VR version, now are VRII
vr 55-200mm = old lens, if have choice, take 55-300 wink.gif

so, take 55300 rclxms.gif

p/s: correct me if worng smile.gif

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doesnt the entry level viewfinder show info such as shutter / aperture / iso?
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yeah. it does but I don't find it convenient to change the setting by looking at viewfinder.
for metering I am okay with it. tongue.gif
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Woahh? for vignetting prevention only? but he price difference a lot lor. hmm.gif
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You'll never regret getting a good filter(B+W). Less effect on IQ and much much much much much much easier to clean! laugh.gif
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how is Nikon TTL compared to nissin TTL? anyone compared this before?
Now I am started to miss VR sad.gif

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 11:49 AM)
what i read from here...

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i thought there got another screen beside lcd screen/monitor in DSLR body?  rclxub.gif

then i look at the interned camera got 2 parts can use eye to view what...1) view finder 2) monitor/LCD screen...

based from the posts above , i thought the "upper screen" is the view finder? like view cam? inside got electronic stuff can preview picture? (alternate choice to preview in LCD screen/monitor)  rclxub.gif
blur blur... sweat.gif
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u said u got d70s? That one oso got top off ma..
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 12:20 PM)
hi all! need a lil opinion here. i a newbie at PG, and have a basic D5000 with 18-55mm vr lens for about a year now. i think its bout time to get my lonely camera some new lens. prob is, i have no idea what to get next.  with ltd budget, ive narrowed down to

vr 70-300mm
vr 55-300mm
vr 55-200mm

any suggestion/opinion on this? or alt lens that i shud get? big thanks!
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70-300 all the time for me =) !

50-300mm slow focusing , you need practice more to get accurate and sharp if you wan capture wildlife and sport .

what i mean slow focusing is slower than 70-300mm

http://mansurovs.com/nikon-70-300mm-vr-review/all/1
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-55-300mm-vr-review

i was thinking to get 55-300mm last time , it is a good and affordable len but not what i want , i going to 70-300mm but of course lar 70-200mm better !


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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 17 2011, 11:32 AM)
Frame wise yes XS-Pro is slimmer than Hoya HD.

pikipiki, I have both HD and XS-Pro on my lens, I don't think it is harder to put the cap on XS-Pro as compared to HD.
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 12:33 PM)
70-300 all the time for me =) !

50-300mm slow focusing , you need practice more to get accurate and sharp if you wan capture wildlife and sport .

what i mean slow focusing is slower than 70-300mm

http://mansurovs.com/nikon-70-300mm-vr-review/all/1
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-55-300mm-vr-review

i was thinking to get 55-300mm last time , it is a good and affordable len but not what i want , i going to 70-300mm but of course lar 70-200mm better !


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err, 70300 doesn't have motor rite?
if he own d90/d7000/motor body,sure 70-300are the choice tongue.gif
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err, 70300 doesn't have motor rite?
if he own d90/d7000/motor body,sure 70-300are the choice  tongue.gif
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got AF-S -.-
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 12:33 PM)
70-300 all the time for me =) !

50-300mm slow focusing , you need practice more to get accurate and sharp if you wan capture wildlife and sport .

what i mean slow focusing is slower than 70-300mm

http://mansurovs.com/nikon-70-300mm-vr-review/all/1
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-55-300mm-vr-review

i was thinking to get 55-300mm last time , it is a good and affordable len but not what i want , i going to 70-300mm but of course lar 70-200mm better !


Added on February 17, 2011, 12:36 pm
+1  thumbup.gif
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price is too high for my lil pocket! even 70-300mm oso i need to think 3-4 times! haha! smile.gif


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got AF-S -.-
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yup!

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price is too high for my lil pocket! even 70-300mm oso i need to think 3-4 times! haha! smile.gif


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u said u got d70s? That one oso got top off ma..
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Nice shot bro, looks yummy. how is the lighting of this pics?

Btw guys, im going to travel to some winter country. what is the precaution i should take as this is the first time i travel with my dslr, and also to winter country. And what is the best aperture to use for landscape shot? because i find my pictures not that sharp at F8 or F10 (HDR bracketing thou). am using Tamron 17-50mm VC.

Thanks a lot in advance!

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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 12:44 PM)
price is too high for my lil pocket! even 70-300mm oso i need to think 3-4 times! haha! smile.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 12:45 pm

yup!
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Ohhh hahah

but you stated 70300 is one your option so i mah suggest you lo =D


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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 12:40 PM)
got AF-S -.-
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if u mean the 70300G.this lens dont have motor
if u mean the VR version,yes it have.

that why it costs more than non VR lens

FYI i owns the 70300G lens
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QUOTE(juruteknikmuda89 @ Feb 17 2011, 01:04 PM)
if u mean the 70300G.this lens dont have motor
if u mean the VR version,yes it have.

that why it costs more than non VR lens

FYI i owns the 70300G lens
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Both 70300 are G lens.
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owh.sorry..but i can assure the VR lens is much more better.i use the non VR,to be honest,i need a very2 still to capture image.if no,my image will blurry.
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Feb 17 2011, 12:25 PM)
vr 70-300mm = cant be AF since this lens doesn't have motor. this lens are AF
vr 55-300mm = new lens, improve local length and  VR version, now are VRII
vr 55-200mm = old lens, if have choice, take 55-300 wink.gif

so, take 55300 rclxms.gif

p/s: correct me if worng smile.gif
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I believe he's taking about 70-300vrII, if that's the case, skip the other 2 lens and get this instead, very good lens for the price u paid. I believe the price is around RM1800
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QUOTE(juruteknikmuda89 @ Feb 17 2011, 01:29 PM)
owh.sorry..but i can assure the VR lens is much more better.i use the non VR,to be honest,i need a very2 still to capture image.if no,my image will blurry.
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 17 2011, 01:32 PM)
I believe he's taking about 70-300vrII, if that's the case, skip the other 2 lens and get this instead, very good lens for the price u paid. I believe the price is around RM1800
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Yes, i'm suggesting the 70300 VR too. The others might as well not buy and save the money.
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 17 2011, 01:32 PM)
I believe he's taking about 70-300vrII, if that's the case, skip the other 2 lens and get this instead, very good lens for the price u paid. I believe the price is around RM1800
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yes, it will set me back bout RM1.8k, but i suppose its value for money compared to the other two lens?
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QUOTE(Worms @ Feb 17 2011, 05:43 AM)
Hi, i'm newbie in DSLR camera and plan to buy Nikon D3100. I need some advice before i buy it. My main use on this camera is landscape and portrait picture, hence I plan to buy 2 more lens which are

1. Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED IF AF-S DX VR Nikkor Zoom Lens
2. Nikon 35mm f/1.8G AF-S DX Lens

Do you think these lens are reasonable choices? Is external flash a necessary to have?
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The items you've listed above are actually great combo. However, in my opinion, why not go for 35mm and a speedlight instead, suits well for capturing portrait. As for landscape, kitlens will be sufficient. Anyhow, it's just my opinion though icon_rolleyes.gif

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morning nikonians,i want to ask about d300s

1)is it worth to buy it for my 2nd body?
2)what type port at the front of d300s body beside lens?(the covered with rubber)

FYI,i'm owner of d90

the way i see if i buy d7000, it would be more expensive than d300s

need y'all opinions.
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By comparing these 2 bodies, in my opinion, just go for D7k, body around RM3.8k whereas D300s body around RM4k. Newer technology above all... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 10:02 AM)
then what is that?  laugh.gif
sorry i m outdated...got D70s only.  sweat.gif  D7000 got that?
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He meant the top LCD. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 01:39 PM)
yes, it will set me back bout RM1.8k, but i suppose its value for money compared to the other two lens?
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The 70300VR is so so, the other two are piece of junk.
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Thanks ! XS-pro coming wink.gif
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True, the XS-Pro gold fonts suits Nikkor lens as well tongue.gif More than the white font of HD xD.
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Guy what do you guy think about 17-55mm f2.8g , it is without VR , or nikon purposely make it w/o VR because the f2.8 so we can gain more shutter speed?

Teach me thanks ! thinking to get that
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 01:51 PM)
Guy what do you guy think about 17-55mm f2.8g , it is without VR , or nikon purposely make it w/o VR because the f2.8 so we can gain more shutter speed?

Teach me thanks !  thinking to get that
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How can you gain more shutter speed without VR? VR is to help you to be able to shoot in slower shutter speed.
The most likely reason for not having the VR is because it's too heavy even without the VR.

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 01:54 PM)
How can you gain more shutter speed without VR, VR is to help you to be able to shoot in slower shutter speed.
The most likely reason for not having the VR is because it's too heavy even without the VR.
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with VR also, u r not gain shutter speed whistling.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 1:56 pmthe only i can say why there's no VR is.. the lens is OLD edi LOL

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 01:51 PM)
Guy what do you guy think about 17-55mm f2.8g , it is without VR , or nikon purposely make it w/o VR because the f2.8 so we can gain more shutter speed?

Teach me thanks !  thinking to get that
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which part of w/o VR can help you gain more shutter speed? shocking.gif shocking.gif
I think because it is announced in 2004 VR is not popular those days. Correct me if I am wrong.
therefore Nikon going to make another one with VR. yay.! again correct me if I am wrong. tongue.gif I am just guessing
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Oh no guys, don't look down on 55-200mm, it's a sharp lens for portrait. Ask ask General_Nic thumbup.gif

QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 01:51 PM)
Guy what do you guy think about 17-55mm f2.8g , it is without VR , or nikon purposely make it w/o VR because the f2.8 so we can gain more shutter speed?

Teach me thanks !  thinking to get that
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Good question, I also wanna ask, why 24-70mm f/2.8 also no VR 1... Anyhow, do consider to get 24-70, it's a FX lens with Nano coating! Whereas 17-55 is a DX lens without Nano coating. I'm just comparing the worthness in terms of price. laugh.gif (Jeez, I'm repeating these many times already sweat.gif)
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 17 2011, 01:55 PM)
with VR also, u r not gain shutter speed  whistling.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 1:56 pmthe only i can say why there's no VR is.. the lens is OLD edi LOL
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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 17 2011, 01:57 PM)
Good question, I also wanna ask, why 24-70mm f/2.8 also no VR 1... Anyhow, do consider to get 24-70, it's a FX lens with Nano coating! Whereas 17-55 is a DX lens without Nano coating. I'm just comparing the worthness in terms of price.  laugh.gif  (Jeez, I'm repeating these many times already  sweat.gif)
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Yep, no point spending so much on a DX lens, might as well upgrade to FX lens and buy a FX body.

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 01:51 PM)
Guy what do you guy think about 17-55mm f2.8g , it is without VR , or nikon purposely make it w/o VR because the f2.8 so we can gain more shutter speed?
Teach me thanks !  thinking to get that
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guys... he said izzit because the big aperture f2.8 can gain more shutter speed...
why all say without VR
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hi guys,i intend to get a nikon d7000 this weekend at lowyat. any idea what's the advantage apart of its high ISO? i heard many reviews that the nikon's parts are very expensive rather than others like sony and canon.cos i am currently using sony a33.
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17-55mm f2.8 got OOF

QUOTE(maumau @ Feb 17 2011, 02:03 PM)
guys... he said izzit because the big aperture f2.8 can gain more shutter speed...  
why all say without VR
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Haha maumau , only you can understand me lol !! hahaha

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hehe.. some of ppl here reply without read properly lol... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(maumau @ Feb 17 2011, 02:03 PM)
guys... he said izzit because the big aperture f2.8 can gain more shutter speed... 
why all say without VR
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laugh.gif bigger aperture gain longer shutter speed? What the......

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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 17 2011, 01:57 PM)
Oh no guys, don't look down on 55-200mm, it's a sharp lens for portrait. Ask ask General_Nic  thumbup.gif
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For the price, it's actually good, it's light, easy for travel and carry around, sharp too. The main drawback is it's focusing speed, but it depends what you use it for and you can learn to compensate the focusing speed by pre-focusing to shorten the focus time.

The 55-300 VR would be better with metal mount + 9 rounded aperture blades; This one have people selling sligthly below RM1K.

Anyhow, it depends what you use for and your requirements. This is s DX lens, so if you plan to upgrade to FX, you might want to consider the 70-300 VR. But if you just want a lens that is CHEAP, light, easy to carry around, the 55-200 or 55-300 would probably make do. The best is to test/try it out yourself the lens and decide.

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for cheap telephoto just get the 70300 VR

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u want more shutter speed.. u gain ISO la HAHAHA
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QUOTE(maumau @ Feb 17 2011, 02:06 PM)
hehe.. some of ppl here reply without read properly lol...  whistling.gif
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Bigger aperture to gain longer shutter speed makes no sense at all, of course we would naturally think he would meant will a lens w/o VR have any effect on shutter speed.

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:07 PM)
laugh.gif  bigger aperture gain longer shutter speed? What the......
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tats his question.... so juz answer him tat
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:01 PM)
The main purpose of VR is so that you can shoot longer shutter speed without having blur your image and also aid parkinson's disease photographer.  icon_idea.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:03 pm

Yep, no point spending so much on a DX lens, might as well upgrade to FX lens and buy a FX body.
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Really? I even saw people using 35mm 1.8 on their D3s. yeah 35mm 1.8 is a DX lens. whistling.gif

QUOTE(maumau @ Feb 17 2011, 02:03 PM)
guys... he said izzit because the big aperture f2.8 can gain more shutter speed... 
why all say without VR
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:05 PM)
17-55mm f2.8 got OOF
Haha maumau , only you can understand me lol !! hahaha
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Why he even bother about VR in the first place? moreover emphasized on it. doesn't make sense to emphasized on aperture and asking why there is no VR version. doh.gif

again bigger aperture doesn't make you achieve a longer shutter speed. smile.gif
it only makes your get more light.
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 17 2011, 02:09 PM)
u want more shutter speed.. u gain ISO la HAHAHA
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yes, but the VR is about ability to gain 3-4 f stops which is the shutter speed. You gain ISO from able to shoot longer shutter speed not the other way round.

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 17 2011, 09:16 AM)
hmm.gif that actually make some sense. As for higher bodies than the entry levels, we have the upper screen to alter things. So i dont really know how the entry level battery will serve ya. maybe someone can confirm this one?
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last time i went Paris, snap for 3 days about 800+ pics on a single charge

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Feb 17 2011, 12:25 PM)
vr 70-300mm = cant be AF since this lens doesn't have motor. this lens are AF
vr 55-300mm = new lens, improve local length and  VR version, now are VRII
vr 55-200mm = old lens, if have choice, take 55-300 wink.gif

so, take 55300 rclxms.gif

p/s: correct me if worng smile.gif
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70-300G VR got SWM, 70-300G non-VR is d 1 without motor

55-300 is better than 55-200 in almost everythg, except AF speed slower than 55-200 in low light

QUOTE(virginslayer @ Feb 17 2011, 02:04 PM)
hi guys,i intend to get a nikon d7000 this weekend at lowyat. any idea what's the advantage apart of its high ISO? i heard many reviews that the nikon's parts are very expensive rather than others like sony and canon.cos i am currently using sony a33.
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false statement
depending on which item, some r more expensive than other brands
Example, Canon 28-300L costs abt rm10k, but Nikon 28-300 costs 3.3k
Nikon 50 1.8 costs rm370-400+, but Canon 50 1.8 costs rm300
Nikon top flash model SB900 rm1600+, Canon top flash model 58EXII rm1700+, Sony top flash model around rm1500
Sony have Carl Zeiss lenses which some cost more than Nikon or Canon equivalent lenses
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:11 PM)
Really? I even saw people using 35mm 1.8 on their D3s. yeah 35mm 1.8 is a DX lens. whistling.gif
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The 35 1.8G is only bout rm780
the 17-55 cost a bomb that's why might as well buy the 24-70 and upgrade the body.

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:07 PM)
laugh.gif  bigger aperture gain longer shutter speed? What the......
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i mean is it because it make it to f2.8 so we can boost up abit shutter speed , i dont mean wide aperture can gain longer shutter speed , sweat .

lol u guy better ignore me , my english suck i dont know how to explain what i mean .



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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
last time i went Paris, snap for 3 days about 800+ pics on a single charge
70-300G VR got SWM, 70-300G non-VR is d 1 without motor

55-300 is better than 55-200 in almost everythg, except AF speed slower than 55-200 in low light
false statement
depending on which item, some r more expensive than other brands
Example, Canon 28-300L costs abt rm10k, but Nikon 28-300 costs 3.3k
Nikon 50 1.8 costs rm370-400+, but Canon 50 1.8 costs rm300
Nikon top flash model SB900 rm1600+, Canon top flash model 58EXII rm1700+, Sony top flash model around rm1500
Sony have Carl Zeiss lenses which some cost more than Nikon or Canon equivalent lenses
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explain more pls laugh.gif

Quality leh? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
last time i went Paris, snap for 3 days about 800+ pics on a single charge
70-300G VR got SWM, 70-300G non-VR is d 1 without motor

55-300 is better than 55-200 in almost everythg, except AF speed slower than 55-200 in low light
false statement
depending on which item, some r more expensive than other brands
Example, Canon 28-300L costs abt rm10k, but Nikon 28-300 costs 3.3k
Nikon 50 1.8 costs rm370-400+, but Canon 50 1.8 costs rm300
Nikon top flash model SB900 rm1600+, Canon top flash model 58EXII rm1700+, Sony top flash model around rm1500
Sony have Carl Zeiss lenses which some cost more than Nikon or Canon equivalent lenses
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Some reviews beg to difer on the 55-200 vs 55-300 from what i read elsewhere. not to sure.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/55-300mm.htm#rex

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
The 35 1.8G is only bout rm780
the 17-55 cost a bomb that's why might as well buy the 24-70 and upgrade the body.
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I even will go for 24-70 at any time as I find 17-55 range is not sufficient for me. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:19 PM)
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explain more pls laugh.gif

Quality leh? unsure.gif
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which part? lol

QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 02:20 PM)
Some reviews beg to difer on the 55-200 vs 55-300 from what i read elsewhere. not to sure.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/55-300mm.htm#rex
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he's comparing 55-200 & 55-300 with 70-300 VR?
its like heaven n earth doh.gif
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:16 PM)
Plss read what i mean

i mean is it because it make it to f2.8 so we  can boost up abit shutter speed , i dont mean wide aperture can gain longer shutter speed , sweat ,

lol u guy better ignore me , my english suck i dont know how to explain what i mean , i think maumau know i mean.
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the f2.8 generally help you to shoot in low light situation, yes if you mean boost as in reducing the shutter speed.
But why not get the 24-70 and so that next time you can use it on a FX body?
It's not worth the money IMO to spend so much on a DX lens.
there's the siggy 17-50 which is cheaper if you're looking for f2.8.


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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:20 PM)
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I even will go for 24-70 at any time as I find 17-55 range is not sufficient for me. tongue.gif
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Me too, but may be he wants to cover the wide ends too. I would never spend so much on DX.
Get the 24-70 and eat bread everyday to save for a FX body. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 02:20 PM)
Some reviews beg to difer on the 55-200 vs 55-300 from what i read elsewhere. not to sure.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/55-300mm.htm#rex
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reviews from ken rockwell?
take it with a pinch of salt.

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:23 PM)
the f2.8 generally help you to shoot in low light situation, yes if you mean boost as in reducing the shutter speed.
But why not get the 24-70 and so that next time you can use it on a FX body?
It's not worth the money IMO to spend so much on a DX lens.
there's the siggy 17-50 which is cheaper if you're looking for f2.8.


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:25 pm

Me too, but may be he wants to cover the wide ends too. I would never spend so much on DX.
Get the 24-70 and eat bread everyday to save for a FX body.  laugh.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:26 pm

reviews from ken rockwell?
take it with a pinch of salt.
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I will get 24-70mm when i got FX body but not now

ya i was thinking tamron , sigma , and nikon . wonder which is suit for DX

i need faster focus
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:23 PM)
the f2.8 generally help you to shoot in low light situation, yes if you mean boost as in reducing the shutter speed.
But why not get the 24-70 and so that next time you can use it on a FX body?
It's not worth the money IMO to spend so much on a DX lens.
there's the siggy 17-50 which is cheaper if you're looking for f2.8.


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:25 pm

Me too, but may be he wants to cover the wide ends too. I would never spend so much on DX.
Get the 24-70 and eat bread everyday to save for a FX body.  laugh.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:26 pm

reviews from ken rockwell?
take it with a pinch of salt.
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24-70 on DX body also geng lar..
no need FX if you go FX it will be almost like 17-55 perspective. tongue.gif
all my lenses are DX lenses cry.gif

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:27 PM)
I will get 24-70mm when i got FX body but not now

ya i was thinking tamron , sigma , and nikon . wonder which is suit for DX

i need faster focus
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f2.8 doesn't mean anything about focusing speed.
if you mean you want a 17-50/55 f2.8 with faster focus I think the siggy & nikon is faster than tamron.
and all three 17-50/55 is for DX.
if you got the money and you don't mind it's a DX lens then just go with the nikon. Siggy and tamron all have quality issue especially after 1 or 2 years.

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:29 PM)
24-70 on DX body also geng lar..
no need FX if you go FX it will be almost like 17-55 perspective. tongue.gif
all my lenses are DX lenses  cry.gif
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Not about the problem geng or not geng ,

is about the coverage you want and the aperture , fast len


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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:31 PM)
f2.8 doesn't mean anything about focusing speed.
if you mean you want a 17-50/55 f2.8 with faster focus I think the siggy & nikon is faster than tamron.
and all three 17-50/55 is for DX.
if you got the money and you don't mind it's a DX lens then just go with the nikon. Siggy and tamron all have quality issue especially after 1 or 2 years.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:29 PM)
24-70 on DX body also geng lar..
no need FX if you go FX it will be almost like 17-55 perspective. tongue.gif
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24 would become 36 on DX which is very tight for landscape.
it will become like 17-55 perspective but with the bigger sensor you get a lot MORE!!!
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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 17 2011, 01:57 PM)
Oh no guys, don't look down on 55-200mm, it's a sharp lens for portrait. Ask ask General_Nic  thumbup.gif

Good question, I also wanna ask, why 24-70mm f/2.8 also no VR 1... Anyhow, do consider to get 24-70, it's a FX lens with Nano coating! Whereas 17-55 is a DX lens without Nano coating. I'm just comparing the worthness in terms of price.  laugh.gif  (Jeez, I'm repeating these many times already  sweat.gif)
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which part? lol
he's comparing 55-200 & 55-300 with 70-300 VR?
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reviews from ken rockwell?
take it with a pinch of salt.
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This one confirmed kena my poison the other day already... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:32 PM)
Not about the problem geng or not geng ,

is about the coverage you want and the aperture , fast len


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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:33 PM)
24 would become 36 on DX which is very tight for landscape.
it will become like 17-55 perspective but with the bigger sensor you get a lot MORE!!!
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that's what I told u I prefer 24-70 perspective on DX. don't know if I will changed tongue.gif
Not a typical landscaper yet. tongue.gif
that's the reason I think 24-70 will serve me just fine on DX.
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QUOTE(virginslayer @ Feb 17 2011, 02:04 PM)
hi guys,i intend to get a nikon d7000 this weekend at lowyat. any idea what's the advantage apart of its high ISO? i heard many reviews that the nikon's parts are very expensive rather than others like sony and canon.cos i am currently using sony a33.
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Partially mag alloy body, dual slot SD card... And errr, not everything is more expensive than Canon and Sony, depends on items though.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:07 PM)
For the price, it's actually good, it's light, easy for travel and carry around, sharp too. The main drawback is it's focusing speed, but it depends what you use it for and you can learn to compensate the focusing speed by pre-focusing to shorten the focus time.

The 55-300 VR would be better with metal mount + 9 rounded aperture blades; This one have people selling sligthly below RM1K.

Anyhow, it depends what you use for and your requirements. This is s DX lens, so if you plan to upgrade to FX, you might want to consider the 70-300 VR. But if you just want a lens that is CHEAP, light, easy to carry around, the 55-200 or 55-300 would probably make do. The best is to test/try it out yourself the lens and decide.
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True true! 55-200 is indeed very light! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:11 PM)
Really? I even saw people using 35mm 1.8 on their D3s. yeah 35mm 1.8 is a DX lens. whistling.gif
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This one confirmed kena my poison the other day already... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 02:34 PM)
no, its 55-200 vs 55-300, he seem to have concluded that 55-300 is not far superior to 55-200. of coz he said 70-300 is far superior la, comparin diff league ma!


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oh, why is that may i know?
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and he called ppl that shoots raw and PP-people that can't shoot it right the first time
he's a nice guy but he is not a professional, just like me and you.
go read up reviews from professional instead of him.
and don't read those dpreview too all technical that doesn't mean anything, read those that actually shoot with the lens in reality.
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Right now 24-70's lens barrel is just nice to hold(go try it at nikon centre if you don't believe) tongue.gif . If it's built with VR, sure become much fatter and not sexy already. tongue.gif

Okay. The real reason behind is probably nikon thinks 24-70 is a "FX-specialized" lens, whereas all nikon FX already have awesome ISO noise performance right, therefor putting a VR in 24-70 is just "lebih" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 17 2011, 02:41 PM)
Right now 24-70's lens barrel is just nice to hold(go try it at nikon centre if you don't believe) tongue.gif . If it's built with VR, sure become much fatter and not sexy already. tongue.gif

Okay. The real reason behind is probably nikon thinks 24-70 is a "FX-specialized" lens, whereas all nikon FX already have awesome ISO noise performance right, therefor putting a VR in 24-70 is just "lebih" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 17 2011, 02:41 PM)
Right now 24-70's lens barrel is just nice to hold(go try it at nikon centre if you don't believe) tongue.gif . If it's built with VR, sure become much fatter and not sexy already. tongue.gif

Okay. The real reason behind is probably nikon thinks 24-70 is a "FX-specialized" lens, whereas all nikon FX already have awesome ISO noise performance right, therefor putting a VR in 24-70 is just "lebih" tongue.gif
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Noted !

Any one can suggest a good wide angle len on DX?
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which part? lol
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like " i heard canon parts is cheap but price drop also faster compare to nikon"? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:47 PM)
Noted !

Any one can suggest a good wide angle len on DX?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:48 PM)
general part lol...

like " i heard canon parts is cheap but price drop also faster compare to nikon"? hmm.gif
or quality vs value...

bla bla  laugh.gif

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BTW what is Nano Coating? what is it for? resistant tougher?  flex.gif  flex.gif
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Nano coating helps to reduce flare and ghosting
But on certain lens with nano still pretty weak to flare

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for cheap telephoto just get the 70300 VR
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Not really cheap, depending on budget; For some people, getting 70-300 VR, add 1K can go for 80-200 f/2.8D second hand. Difference is HUGE.

For people on budget on DX body, want a cheap telephoto, lightweight, etc. 55-200 VR or 55-300 VR can fit the bill, unless they really need the faster focusing speed. The price of 70-300 VR is almost double 55-300 VR. 55-300 VR have people selling less than 1K (last I saw is RM950).
So it depends on the person requirement, and budget. Some people, they spend more on higher end lens, then for a cheap, lightweight, they just want to spend a little as long as it can deliver the job.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 17 2011, 03:06 PM)
Not really cheap, depending on budget; For some people, getting 70-300 VR, add 1K can go for 80-200 f/2.8D second hand. Difference is HUGE.

For people on budget on DX body, want a cheap telephoto, lightweight, etc. 55-200 VR or 55-300 VR can fit the bill, unless they really need the faster focusing speed. The price of 70-300 VR is almost double 55-300 VR. 55-300 VR have people selling less than 1K (last I saw is RM950).
So it depends on the person requirement, and budget. Some people, they spend more on higher end lens, then for a cheap, lightweight, they just want to spend a little as long as it can deliver the job.
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the 80-200 has no VR which for a telephoto is kinda useless. The keep rate is just too low.
But yeah like you said, if they just wanna buy a lens that can deliver the job(telephoto) then just grap the cheaper ones if IQ is not a problem to them.
However, cheap things no good, good things not cheap. laugh.gif


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However, cheap things no good, good things not cheap.  laugh.gif
KTCY's quote which make me look to my wallet. sad.gif
and another one : You pay peanut you get monkey. tongue.gif
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KTCY's quote which make me look to my wallet. sad.gif
and another one : You pay peanut you get monkey. tongue.gif
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the 80-200 has no VR which for a telephoto is kinda useless. The keep rate is just too low.
But yeah like you said, if they just wanna buy a lens that can deliver the job(telephoto) then just grap the cheaper ones if IQ is not a problem to them.
However, cheap things no good, good things not cheap.  laugh.gif


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For which of your lens? UV or CPL?
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24mm f/1.4G !
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XS-pro UV for that lens about 290.

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^ laugh.gif just guessing the price.
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12-24 f4? or 10-24 f3.5-4.5
Bro, you strike lottery recently? laugh.gif
Can share some of your fortune?  rclxms.gif


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Nano coating helps to reduce flare and ghosting
But on certain lens with nano still pretty weak to flare
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If i got fortune i wont share out to you (i know u also joking lar so i am )

i will give all to charity =)
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If i got fortune i wont share out to you (i know u also joking lar so i am )

i will give all to charity =)
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humble talk before got.. after got?  whistling.gif  laugh.gif
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Use FX but lens is al cheapo lens ? sleep.gif
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He seems to have some deep pocket now, surely he can afford good lenses.

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After got, buy D3s D700 D3x all the gold ring 3x sb-900, one lambo one ferrari one mansion and the balance for charity.  laugh.gif


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Who? that bro?  laugh.gif
He seems to have some deep pocket now, surely he can afford good lenses.
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Haiya KTCY just say only ar , no point to anyone .

I dont have deep resources.

I wont buy ferrari lar , i m not the guy born here to enjoy my life. I will buy a good car who allow me to long drive can d.

I use my camera to learn and shoot more pics , hope can use the pic to touch ppl heart and realized something , eg, there is alot Vietnam kids who cannot afford their study fees , their study fees just only RM5. I buy camera to shoot them , the real face and the happening around the world. We are in malaysia , we should appreciate always , and if we got extra , try to spare some to the people who poorer than us.

I am looking wide-angle len because i want to learn to be photojournalist w/o salary. so i want to ask only , what i know is most of the photojournalist use wide angle to shoot their subject , use wide angle step forward to close to their subject and shoot, but most of us use the wide-angle len step back to shoot. (but also got 70200 lar )

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humble talk before got.. after got?  whistling.gif  laugh.gif
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Not humble lar.

This is what i think only.

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
The 35 1.8G is only bout rm780
the 17-55 cost a bomb that's why might as well buy the 24-70 and upgrade the body.
Errr... Buy the 24-70 AND upgrade to D700? rclxub.gif Wouldn't that break the bank?

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I even will go for 24-70 at any time as I find 17-55 range is not sufficient for me. tongue.gif
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Me too, but may be he wants to cover the wide ends too. I would never spend so much on DX.
Get the 24-70 and eat bread everyday to save for a FX body.  laugh.gif
What are you guys talking? hmm.gif Isn't 17-55 on DX equal to 25.5-82.5? That's very similar to 24-70 on FX. whistling.gif

QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:27 PM)
I will get 24-70mm when i got FX body but not now

ya i was thinking tamron , sigma , and nikon . wonder which is suit for DX

i need faster focus
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On the DX and if you happen to use the 17-55, do you see yourself using more wide end or on the tele end?

If on the wide side, perhaps you can settle for the cheaper 16-35mm f/4 which is a stop slower lens than the 24-70mm f/2.8?

QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 03:12 PM)
the 80-200 has no VR which for a telephoto is kinda useless. The keep rate is just too low.
Must a lens have VR for it to become useful? How did people shoot with Nikon when the earlier 400mm, 500mm and 600mm lenses were without telephoto but yet still delivery stunning images?

I sometimes think we rely too much on technology. With proper shooting technique, you'll have no problems getting high keep rates with the 80-200mm f/2.8.

Besides, if you're into shooting fast action sports, you'd usually shoot without VR since VR interferes slightly with the focus acquisition and the time the camera needs to lock focus. Of course VR is useful during panning but even then it's not necessary.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 17 2011, 03:53 PM)
Errr... Buy the 24-70 AND upgrade to D700?  rclxub.gif Wouldn't that break the bank?
What are you guys talking?  hmm.gif Isn't 17-55 on DX equal to 25.5-82.5? That's very similar to 24-70 on FX.  whistling.gif
On the DX and if you happen to use the 17-55, do you see yourself using more wide end or on the tele end?

If on the wide side, perhaps you can settle for the cheaper 16-35mm f/4 which is a stop slower lens than the 24-70mm f/2.8?
Must a lens have VR for it to become useful? How did people shoot with Nikon when the earlier 400mm, 500mm and 600mm lenses were without telephoto but yet still delivery stunning images?

I sometimes think we rely too much on technology. With proper shooting technique, you'll have no problems getting high keep rates with the 80-200mm f/2.8.

Besides, if you're into shooting fast action sports, you'd usually shoot without VR since VR interferes slightly with the focus acquisition and the time the camera needs to lock focus. Of course VR is useful during panning but even then it's not necessary.
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Errr... Buy the 24-70 AND upgrade to D700?  rclxub.gif Wouldn't that break the bank?
What are you guys talking?  hmm.gif Isn't 17-55 on DX equal to 25.5-82.5? That's very similar to 24-70 on FX.  whistling.gif
On the DX and if you happen to use the 17-55, do you see yourself using more wide end or on the tele end?

If on the wide side, perhaps you can settle for the cheaper 16-35mm f/4 which is a stop slower lens than the 24-70mm f/2.8?
Must a lens have VR for it to become useful? How did people shoot with Nikon when the earlier 400mm, 500mm and 600mm lenses were without telephoto but yet still delivery stunning images?

I sometimes think we rely too much on technology. With proper shooting technique, you'll have no problems getting high keep rates with the 80-200mm f/2.8.

Besides, if you're into shooting fast action sports, you'd usually shoot without VR since VR interferes slightly with the focus acquisition and the time the camera needs to lock focus. Of course VR is useful during panning but even then it's not necessary.
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1) He's talking about 24-70 on a DX body, not comparing 17-55 on DX and 24-70 on FX.
2) 16mm is not that wide for DX
2) Of course you can, but I said the keep rate is too low and it is very hard to get sharp focus especially at the longer end without VR. For example handheld shooting a bird without VR and to get a sharp pic you really need to have a hand of steel.

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 03:12 PM)
the 80-200 has no VR which for a telephoto is kinda useless. The keep rate is just too low.
But yeah like you said, if they just wanna buy a lens that can deliver the job(telephoto) then just grap the cheaper ones if IQ is not a problem to them.
However, cheap things no good, good things not cheap.  laugh.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 3:13 pm

For which of your lens? UV or CPL?
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Try it in Nikon BTS, then judge again smile.gif
Turn the VR off on 70-300 and see if you can capture steady picture, then try the 80-200mm f/2.8D smile.gif

Without VR, you need to compensate with faster shutter speed; but the weight and balance of the lens, you can break the rule a little, hold it steadily and go slightly slower shutter, you can still capture nice and sharp picture. If you use flash, you can go even slower shutter speed.
Plus, with the wide aperture, you can use faster shutter compared to the 70-300mm VR which has smaller aperture.
Image Quality is again, very much different....


QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 17 2011, 03:53 PM)
Must a lens have VR for it to become useful? How did people shoot with Nikon when the earlier 400mm, 500mm and 600mm lenses were without telephoto but yet still delivery stunning images?

I sometimes think we rely too much on technology. With proper shooting technique, you'll have no problems getting high keep rates with the 80-200mm f/2.8.

Besides, if you're into shooting fast action sports, you'd usually shoot without VR since VR interferes slightly with the focus acquisition and the time the camera needs to lock focus. Of course VR is useful during panning but even then it's not necessary.
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Agreed!
VR is nice to have; Without VR, we need to compensate with faster shutter speed and of course, proper shooting techniques. With flash, we can manage slower shutter speed as the flash can help to freeze the motion.

BUT, the 55-300mm and 70-300m is A LOT harder to shoot without VR. I suppose it's due to the weight and balance.

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 03:12 PM)
the 80-200 has no VR which for a telephoto is kinda useless. The keep rate is just too low.
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1) He's talking about 24-70 on a DX body, not comparing 17-55 on DX and 24-70 on FX.
2) 16mm is not that wide for DX
2) Of course you can, but I said the keep rate is too low and it is very hard to get sharp focus especially at the longer end without VR. For example handheld shooting a bird without VR and to get a sharp pic you really need to have a hand of steel.
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comparing 80200mm & 70300mmvr.
i have better keep rate on my 80200mm.
it depends on the condition also...VR does help but it wont do miracle la.
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shoot bird without VR. i got hand of steel???

if 16mm is not wide on DX.
what is consider wide on DX? 12mm??
and how to define an ultra wide for a DX??? 5mm??

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 03:58 PM)
2) 16mm is not that wide for DX
If bbuser91 did not complain about the 17mm end from the 17-55mm f/2.8 DX lens, why would he complain about 16mm? hmm.gif

I'm more worried that he says the 35mm end from the 16-35mm f/4 is not tele enough...

QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 03:58 PM)
2) Of course you can, but I said the keep rate is too low and it is very hard to get sharp focus especially at the longer end without VR. For example handheld shooting a bird without VR and to get a sharp pic you really need to have a hand of steel.
If you talk about birding with 500mm and 600mm f/4 lenses, you do not need a hand of steel. There is this thing called the tripod. thumbup.gif For large lenses, you'd want the full Wimberley head or the smaller Wimberley Sidekick with arca swiss clamp ballhead. When you put the lens on a solid tripod mount, you'd want to turn off VR anyways. rclxms.gif

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Sorry lah. Example shows a C lens. blush.gif
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QUOTE(daze @ Feb 17 2011, 04:41 PM)
any boutique hotel for rec around jonker street??
seems like most of them are fully booked...sleep.gif"
comparing 80200mm & 70300mmvr.
i have better keep rate on my 80200mm.
it depends on the condition also...VR does help but it wont do miracle la.

if 16mm is not wide on DX.
what is consider wide on DX? 12mm??
and how to define an ultra wide for a DX??? 5mm??
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I said it is not THAT wide, I didn't say it isn't wide.
For DX there's only few wide angle lens that is really wide. Like the 12-24 & 10-24.
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 04:45 PM)
I said it is not THAT wide, I didn't say it isn't wide.
For DX there's only few wide angle lens that is really wide. Like the 12-24 & 10-24.
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knowing I am not a landscaper yet.

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for ur info.. 18mm in DX is consider wide d...

ultrawide is around 10-12mm

for FX, 24mm consider wide.. and 16mm consider UWA d..

dont believe me? google la
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 17 2011, 04:45 PM)
If bbuser91 did not complain about the 17mm end from the 17-55mm f/2.8 DX lens, why would he complain about 16mm?  hmm.gif

I'm more worried that he says the 35mm end from the 16-35mm f/4 is not tele enough...
If you talk about birding with 500mm and 600mm f/4 lenses, you do not need a hand of steel. There is this thing called the tripod.  thumbup.gif For large lenses, you'd want the full Wimberley head or the smaller Wimberley Sidekick with arca swiss clamp ballhead. When you put the lens on a solid tripod mount, you'd want to turn off VR anyways.  rclxms.gif

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Sorry lah. Example shows a C lens.  blush.gif
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1) He's asking for wide angle lens, hence if he's buying the 17-55 of course 16mm makes very little difference.
2) Of course I know there's tripod DUH! I'm talking bout handheld telephoto shots.

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if 16mm is not wide on DX.
what is consider wide on DX? 12mm??
and how to define an ultra wide for a DX??? 5mm??
LOL

Ultra wide category is in the 10mm region on DX provided by the Sigma 10-20mm and Nikon's own 10-24mm which is 15mm equivalent on full frame. The 14-24mm f/2.8 is ultra wide on FX. The widest lens on FX is the Sigma 12-24mm f/4 if I'm not wrong.
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 17 2011, 04:50 PM)
for ur info.. 18mm in DX is consider wide d...

ultrawide is around 10-12mm

for FX, 24mm consider wide.. and 16mm consider UWA d..

dont believe me? google la
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I know, but he's asking for lens wider than 17mm, coz he's planning to buy a 17-55 and another wide angle, of course suggest something much wider than 17mm la. doh.gif


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any boutique hotel for rec around jonker street??
seems like most of them are fully booked...sleep.gif"
comparing 80200mm & 70300mmvr.
i have better keep rate on my 80200mm.
it depends on the condition also...VR does help but it wont do miracle la.
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shoot bird without VR. i got hand of steel???

if 16mm is not wide on DX.
what is consider wide on DX? 12mm??
and how to define an ultra wide for a DX??? 5mm??
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haha your bird is not even flying. doh.gif

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 04:52 PM)
I know, but he's asking for lens wider than 17mm, coz he's planning to buy a 17-55 and another wide angle, of course suggest something much wider than 17mm la.  doh.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 4:54 pm

haha your bird is not even flying.  doh.gif
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he didn't mention about 17-55 when he was asking about wide lens bro. don't believe me? check it out yourself tongue.gif

and 17mm and 16mm give a lot of difference. tongue.gif
as much as 10-11 and 12mm. nominally they aren't a lot of difference practically. yeah! icon_rolleyes.gif
just my 2 cents though you can practically ignore it. if you do mind. laugh.gif

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he didn't mention about 17-55 when he was asking about wide lens bro. don't believe me check it out yourself tongue.gif

and 17mm and 16mm give a lot of difference. tongue.gif
as much as 10-11 and 12mm. nominally they aren't a lot of difference practically. yeah!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yeah, but he seems like he made up his mind about the f2.8 in the previous post but searching for another wide angle which he says he wants to shoot really up close in the streets.

17 & 16 yes quite some significant difference but pay so much for that 1mm? Might as well get a proper DX wide angle zoom.

Anybody aware of the new patent that Nikon recently filed? The half mirror(similar to Sony's translucent mirror system) and the flash with built-in bounce system. Interesting. hmm.gif nod.gif

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haha your bird is not even flying.  doh.gif
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didnt specify flying bird or fighting bird.

flying birdman.!!! XD
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u only said shooting bird with & without VR handheld ma.
didnt specify flying bird or fighting bird.

flying birdman.!!! XD
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laugh.gif that's a flying black goku.
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Yeah, but he seems like he made up his mind about the f2.8 in the previous post but searching for another wide angle which he says he wants to shoot really up close in the streets.

17 & 16 yes quite some significant difference but pay so much for that 1mm? Might as well get a proper DX wide angle zoom.

Anybody aware of the new patent that Nikon recently filed? The half mirror(similar to Sony's translucent mirror system) and the flash with built-in bounce system. Interesting. hmm.gif  nod.gif
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conclusion...
- f2.8
- wide angle
- street photography
- DX camera

nikkor 14-24mm f2.8
tokina 11-16mm f2.8
nikkor 14mm f2.8
nikkor 20mm f2.8
nikkor 24mm f1.4
nikkor 24mm f2.8

list go on....


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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 05:21 PM)
laugh.gif that's a flying black goku.
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so picky eh..sleep.gif"

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17-55/2.8 on DX, just go get it USED.
can get for around rm3.3k, go SG can find more ppl selling them used.
the lens will obviously hold its used price pretty well even after a few yrs, so once u want to sell off to upgrade u wont lose much.

24-70 on DX is still too tight, dont even talk about landscape.
try shooting large group shots of ppl or more...difference is not like 1 step back...but as much as 3-4 steps back...and most of the time that is space u dont have.
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QUOTE(daze @ Feb 17 2011, 05:24 PM)
conclusion...
- f2.8
- wide angle
- street photography
- DX camera

nikkor 14-24mm f2.8
tokina 11-16mm f2.8
nikkor 14mm f2.8
nikkor 20mm f2.8
nikkor 24mm f1.4
nikkor 24mm f2.8

list go on....
You forgot two lenses that were already discontinued... biggrin.gif

Nikkor 18mm f/2.8
Nikkor 28mm f/1.4

Incidentally, both are precission grounded glass.
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For a standard zoom lens on DX, Nikkor 17-55G DX is a very nice lens indeed. Don't bothered about Nano Crystal Coating because a USED one is already damn cheap for it's superior performance. thumbup.gif
It helps me to cover group shots and jalan jalan all the while. I sold it not long after I have the 17-35 f/2.8D. tongue.gif
If you going to stay with DX for quite many years, just grab it. smile.gif

OR if you have more budget, can consider the superior Nikkor 17-35 f/2.8D as well. This is a FX lens so don't have to worry about selling it away when you wanna switch to FX in future. 17mm on FX is REAL WIDE already to me(lets put 14-24 aside for now), 17-35 is a very useful focal length even on FX sweat.gif

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Ive been to nami island during winter. Dat time snowy  and the temperature at least -4 degree(celcius) plus the wind make it colder.. IMO, u need to bring extra batteries. During my visit there, my sony cybershot can only last 20-30 pics and the photographer who accompany us (he use dslr, cant remember what model) also change batteries of his dslr  a few time.

I wonder how low temperature affect the mechanism inside the battery.
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Deng, this Saturday there's a cosplay competition and K-pop dance performance at Ikano. Anyone going? hmm.gif
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I would go if not for my friend's wedding. wink.gif

On a side note, anyone going to BTS next weekend ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Feb 17 2011, 08:50 PM)
I would go if not for my friend's wedding. wink.gif

On a side note, anyone going to BTS next weekend ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Feb 16 2011, 06:17 PM)
budget ?
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Not more than 1 k , is 55-200 mm good enought?is it the price for nikon 55 -200 for 700 worth it?
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D7000 or D300s?
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Feb 17 2011, 10:30 PM)
D7000 or D300s?
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D7000 or D300s?
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cool...... compatible with 70-200 rite?
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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Feb 17 2011, 11:15 PM)
cool...... compatible with 70-200 rite?
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 02:34 PM)
no, its 55-200 vs 55-300, he seem to have concluded that 55-300 is not far superior to 55-200. of coz he said 70-300 is far superior la, comparin diff league ma!
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He said nt much better, not 55-300 same as 55-200, so wat i said 55-300 better not wrong wat sweat.gif
N 55-300 got better VR, longer range, metal mount, its true its better than 55-200, but i didn say better by alot

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Not more than 1 k , is 55-200 mm good enought?is it the price for nikon 55 -200 for 700 worth it?
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Rm700 for new? Worth it!

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D7000 or D300s?
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Crap man, my group member decided to go Sekinchan to do our short film shooting both days on this weekend, I won't be able to go already cry.gif
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Hmm... I just thought about this recently and coincidentally it already being discussed here. Says...

If I ditched the kit lens and to go for 35mm f/2D with D7000 body only as my starter pack. I'll be missing out the wide capability. I don't need zoom, but wide yes.

Any recommendation for affordable wide lens other than the kit if I ditched it out? sad.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 18 2011, 12:04 AM)
Hmm... I just thought about this recently and coincidentally it already being discussed here. Says...

If I ditched the kit lens and to go for 35mm f/2D with D7000 body only as my starter pack. I'll be missing out the wide capability. I don't need zoom, but wide yes.

Any recommendation for affordable wide lens other than the kit if I ditched it out? sad.gif
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What's your budget? If you shoot outdoor and don't need very wide and low budget, you can consider 2nd hand 18-55mm VR.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 18 2011, 12:04 AM)
Hmm... I just thought about this recently and coincidentally it already being discussed here. Says...

If I ditched the kit lens and to go for 35mm f/2D with D7000 body only as my starter pack. I'll be missing out the wide capability. I don't need zoom, but wide yes.

Any recommendation for affordable wide lens other than the kit if I ditched it out? sad.gif
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tokina 116


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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 17 2011, 04:50 PM)
for ur info.. 18mm in DX is consider wide d...

ultrawide is around 10-12mm

for FX, 24mm consider wide.. and 16mm consider UWA d..

dont believe me? google la
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just recently my mind said 11mm at DX is not wide enuff haha


Added on February 18, 2011, 12:26 ampeople keep on asking about same item. why dont they just buy it and try their ownself rather then keep on asking and arguing? :blur:

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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Feb 18 2011, 12:23 AM)
tokina 116


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just recently my mind said 11mm at DX is not wide enuff haha


Added on February 18, 2011, 12:26 ampeople keep on asking about same item. why dont they just buy it and try their ownself rather then keep on asking and arguing?  :blur:
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hey bro, u hv tokina 116? if got, ok or not??? Grab nikon 10-24 or tokina 116??? of couse dont compare the price.... which one better
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 18 2011, 12:11 AM)
What's your budget? If you shoot outdoor and don't need very wide and low budget, you can consider 2nd hand 18-55mm VR.
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I'll be kinda "out" after purchasing the D7000 + 35mm f/2D. Probably look at around RM1K ~ 2K if I'm really desperate for wide. Since the kit package and body only differ RM650, should I just take and keep the kit lens or fund it up for a better wide lens? sad.gif

Anyway, what's the different between D and G lenses? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Isepunye @ Feb 18 2011, 12:23 AM)
tokina 116


Added on February 18, 2011, 12:23 am
just recently my mind said 11mm at DX is not wide enuff haha


Added on February 18, 2011, 12:26 ampeople keep on asking about same item. why dont they just buy it and try their ownself rather then keep on asking and arguing?  :blur:
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Well, whether wide enough or not is more towards individual preference. Anyway, there's a standard scaling for ultra wide and wide range. I just couldn't recall the number as the magazine I bought is with my friend now smile.gif
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70-200 DX lens meh ? doh.gif
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QUOTE(thomaskhling @ Feb 18 2011, 12:33 AM)
hey bro, u hv tokina 116? if got, ok  or not??? Grab nikon 10-24 or tokina 116??? of couse dont compare the price.... which one better
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wokeh thx sifu's hehe....planning to get it on next 2 weeks...oo ic d90 is 4 beginner yawn.gif
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QUOTE(nelprudent @ Feb 18 2011, 02:25 AM)
i'm planning on buying it but i'm on a tight budget... saw ads on mudah.my selling new one but cheapest is rm3199 and with out bag and mmc... but if i can find 3.1k with accessories (bag, mmc, screen protector, uv filter, etc) would probably grab it.. but isn't it too cheap for d90 to have such freebies? LOL
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oo yeah 1 more thing potrait lens i guess...a friend of mine using it to catched a very nice pic with blur background...how much those thing for d90?
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QUOTE(superb123 @ Feb 18 2011, 02:35 AM)
oo yeah 1 more thing potrait lens i guess...a friend of mine using it to catched a very nice pic with blur background...how much those thing for d90?
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Most basic one is 50mm f/1.8D, roughly RM370 can get already. icon_rolleyes.gif Anyway, that blurry background is known as 'bokeh' laugh.gif
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ooo bokeh...i've read a topic about 50 mm lens...what a 50mm filter for??is it wajib to have filter on 50 mm??
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Ezrazang so nice ah u. Even u r a pro oso so nice to newbies. thumbup.gif

BTW filter not wajib. To protect the front element or to give effects. But I never use filers on my 50mm
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another Q, which class does D90 belongs to? I've read on the net, some said beginner and some said mid range...
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QUOTE(superb123 @ Feb 18 2011, 02:42 AM)
ooo bokeh...i've read a topic about 50 mm lens...what a 50mm filter for??is it wajib to have filter on 50 mm??
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There are many types of filters, UV filter, CPL filter and also ND filter to... uh I suggest you google around laugh.gif And it's not compulsory to have filter. Cheap filter will end up spoiling your photos. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Ezrazang so nice ah u. Even u r a pro oso so nice to newbies. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(nelprudent @ Feb 18 2011, 02:51 AM)
another Q, which class does D90 belongs to? I've read on the net, some said beginner and some said mid range...
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If you ask me, I would say D90 stuck in between the entry level and the mid range level. Anyway, why bother about it? blink.gif

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yeah, sorry for such questions...

i'm thinking of going to LYP today to search for 3.1k d90.. but if there's none better just sit at home.. lalalala~
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QUOTE(nelprudent @ Feb 18 2011, 03:21 AM)
yeah, sorry for such questions...

i'm thinking of going to LYP today to search for 3.1k d90.. but if there's none better just sit at home.. lalalala~
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QUOTE(nelprudent @ Feb 18 2011, 03:21 AM)
yeah, sorry for such questions...

i'm thinking of going to LYP today to search for 3.1k d90.. but if there's none better just sit at home.. lalalala~
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Guys, wanna ask is there any software that can allow me to view raw file from D7000 in thumbnail view? currently i need to open one by one to view it sweat.gif

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Guys, wanna ask is there any software that can allow me to view raw file from D7000 in thumbnail view? currently i need to open one by one to view it sweat.gif

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Thumbnail in Windows explorer? Needs some plugin and only works for 32bit.

Else you can use ViewNX (Free) or Lightroom or Bridge etc for this purpose too.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 07:41 AM)
Thumbnail in Windows explorer? Needs some plugin and only works for 32bit.

Else you can use ViewNX (Free) or Lightroom or Bridge etc for this purpose too.
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Lightroom definitely can view your NEF RAW in thumbnail form. I'm using LR too.
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Lightroom definitely can view your NEF RAW in thumbnail form. I'm using LR too.
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huh ...D90 is for begginner then D3100 is what? hmm.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(nelprudent @ Feb 18 2011, 02:51 AM)
another Q, which class does D90 belongs to? I've read on the net, some said beginner and some said mid range...
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Chek wikipedia also can, you can find at bottom of the page, a table of classifications

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Contemplating to forego my nikkor 18-35 to get a 17-35 f 2.8..Is it worth the purchase?
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Hi guys. Does non-AF/AF-S lens work on DSLR. What I mean is the lens for Film SLR - will they work on Digital SLR? Sorry for my noob question.
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 12:20 PM)
hi all! need a lil opinion here. i a newbie at PG, and have a basic D5000 with 18-55mm vr lens for about a year now. i think its bout time to get my lonely camera some new lens. prob is, i have no idea what to get next.  with ltd budget, ive narrowed down to

vr 70-300mm
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vr 55-200mm

any suggestion/opinion on this? or alt lens that i shud get? big thanks!
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hi! after talkin to some friends, one of them suggested to get tamron 18-270mm instead of the 70-300mm for my D5000.

any cons with this? coz the price is thereabout, so am not so sure. pls pls pls advise. many thanks! smile.gif
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Feb 18 2011, 10:09 AM)
Hi guys. Does non-AF/AF-S lens work on DSLR. What I mean is the lens for Film SLR - will they work on Digital SLR? Sorry for my noob question.
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The easiest way to differentiate is to see from the lens, if there is a word 'AF' then it will AF on selected DSLR. Simple eh? laugh.gif Actually you're asking AF-S or AF lenses? For AF-S lenses, it will work on all DSLR automatically.

As for non-AF lenses, they still can work on DSLR, however, you need to play them manually, which includes the shutter speed and aperture (you gotta do guessing). Anyhow, do correct me if I'm wrong though, I got these info from BTS Nikon Centre. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think I kena poison aledi..tat poison is slowly killing my wallet..sob sob..its called the D3s poison sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 18 2011, 11:09 AM)
I think I kena poison aledi..tat poison is slowly killing my wallet..sob sob..its called the D3s poison sweat.gif
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So where did the D3s poison came from? Need to take note of the lens as well tongue.gif.

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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 18 2011, 10:51 AM)
The easiest way to differentiate is to see from the lens, if there is a word 'AF' then it will AF on selected DSLR. Simple eh?  laugh.gif  Actually you're asking AF-S or AF lenses? For AF-S lenses, it will work on all DSLR automatically.

As for non-AF lenses, they still can work on DSLR, however, you need to play them manually, which includes the shutter speed and aperture (you gotta do guessing). Anyhow, do correct me if I'm wrong though, I got these info from BTS Nikon Centre.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I have old lens from my dad. I ransack it from the store. A very old one but still in good condition. Those lens have no AF or AF-S lens so I want to know if it work on Nikon D3100 DSLR. If it does, I might buy it smile.gif
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Feb 18 2011, 11:18 AM)
I have old lens from my dad. I ransack it from the store. A very old one but still in good condition. Those lens have no AF or AF-S lens so I want to know if it work on Nikon D3100 DSLR. If it does, I might buy it  smile.gif
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non-AF or non AF-S lens will work on D3100 but with manual focusing.
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It will work, but you don't have metering nor auto focus. Everything is manual.
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non-AF or non AF-S lens will work on D3100 but with manual focusing.
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It will work, but you don't have metering nor auto focus. Everything is manual.
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That should be fine. I like manual focus and playing around it first before getting serious...
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Feb 18 2011, 11:23 AM)
That should be fine. I like manual focus and playing around it first before getting serious...
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Feb 18 2011, 11:18 AM)
I have old lens from my dad. I ransack it from the store. A very old one but still in good condition. Those lens have no AF or AF-S lens so I want to know if it work on Nikon D3100 DSLR. If it does, I might buy it  smile.gif
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Yes it will work, but 100% manually. If you got the patience to play, why not? brows.gif
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Yes it will work, but 100% manually. If you got the patience to play, why not?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 11:11 AM)
So where did the D3s poison came from? Need to take note of the lens as well tongue.gif.
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it came from somewhere tongue.gif nowadays I like to shoot vertical, so the idea of getting a bg is like so so oni..the other day balik from class I jalan2 camera shop saw tis used d3s..try it n I drool.gif .....yeah lenses too. I got some pretty decent ones. Not as expensive as urs for sure. The cheap 18-35 n cheap 50 1.4G..ordered the 24-70 n the kedai told me 3 weeks will sampai..till now no news yet..(or maybe haven't 3 weeks yet hmm.gif ) waoh this is bad poison sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 18 2011, 10:51 AM)
hi! after talkin to some friends, one of them suggested to get tamron 18-270mm instead of the 70-300mm for my D5000.

any cons with this? coz the price is thereabout, so am not so sure. pls pls pls advise. many thanks! smile.gif
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I won't get a tamron if i were you. photo quality for long range lens such as tamron 18-270mm won't be good. please correct me if i'm wrong.
i will prefer 70-300mm VR
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QUOTE(jady @ Feb 18 2011, 11:34 AM)
I won't get a tamron if i were you. photo quality for long range lens such as tamron 18-270mm won't be good. please correct me if i'm wrong.
i will prefer 70-300mm VR
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It's an allrounder lens. If one don't mind carrying more than one lens, then go with the 70300. The 18270 offers great versatility, but not so good iq.
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It's an allrounder lens. If one don't mind carrying more than one lens, then go with the 70300. The 18270 offers great versatility, but not so good iq.
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if all rounder. y not nikon 28-300mm ?
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if all rounder. y not nikon 28-300mm ?
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if all rounder. y not nikon 28-300mm ?
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Actually all this all rounder lens the longer end IQ is really grumble.gif
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Because it's not wide enough?  hmm.gif
Actually all this all rounder lens the longer end IQ is really  grumble.gif
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or cheaper still get nikon 28-200 tongue.gif
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I'll get Nikon 18-200mm VRII for all rounder
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 18 2011, 11:56 AM)
You play 28-300 before ?
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Yeah just a few days ago at Funan Singapore with my friends, coz the shop didn't have the stock for the 24-120 my friend was looking so he ask us to try this out which is a bit cheaper but got longer range.

And I ask him to let me try the 70-200 2.8 too. The 28-300 at 300mm indoor I have to bump up the ISO to 6400 and there's some vignetting altho the image is quite sharp. However, when I compare it with the 70-200 it's like heaven and earth. But it's okay if you're not too demanding it's a nice lens that offer pretty sharp image but it's a lil too dark sometimes thru the viewfinder especially compare to the 70-200 which is a much faster lens.

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 18 2011, 10:04 AM)
If i were u i would skip the 17-35 F/2.8 and get the 16-35 F/4VR instead, will be collecting mine this saturday  drool.gif
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 18 2011, 12:23 PM)
Yeah just a few days ago at Funan Singapore with my friends, coz the shop didn't have the stock for the 24-120 my friend was looking so he ask us to try this out which is a bit cheaper but got longer range.

And I ask him to let me try the 70-200 2.8 too. The 28-300 at 300mm indoor I have to bump up the ISO to 6400 and there's some vignetting altho the image is quite sharp. However, when I compare it with the 70-200 it's like heaven and earth. But it's okay if you're not too demanding it's a nice lens that offer pretty sharp image but it's a lil too dark sometimes thru the viewfinder especially compare to the 70-200 which is a much faster lens.
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the price tell the different yoo..
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Nikkor 28-300 is DX or FX lens?
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Nikkor 28-300 is DX or FX lens?
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FX, but can use on DX.

It's heavy tho, don't think it'll feel nice on a DX entry-level body.

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so the verdict will be 70-300mm vr instead of the 18-270mm tamron?
since both more or less same price range.
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 18 2011, 12:31 PM)
FX, but can use on DX.

It's heavy tho, don't think it'll feel nice on a DX entry-level body.
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 18 2011, 12:49 PM)
so the verdict will be 70-300mm vr instead of the 18-270mm tamron?
since both more or less same price range.
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 18 2011, 12:51 PM)
so..70-200 also dont feel nice la.. but y u all craving for it?  laugh.gif
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so..70-200 also dont feel nice la.. but y u all craving for it?  laugh.gif
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All? Lulz when I see this statement.

Drop the idea of getting that 18-270. If you need tele lens, get 70300.
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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 18 2011, 12:23 PM)
Yeah just a few days ago at Funan Singapore with my friends, coz the shop didn't have the stock for the 24-120 my friend was looking so he ask us to try this out which is a bit cheaper but got longer range.

And I ask him to let me try the 70-200 2.8 too. The 28-300 at 300mm indoor I have to bump up the ISO to 6400 and there's some vignetting altho the image is quite sharp. However, when I compare it with the 70-200 it's like heaven and earth. But it's okay if you're not too demanding it's a nice lens that offer pretty sharp image but it's a lil too dark sometimes thru the viewfinder especially compare to the 70-200 which is a much faster lens.
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28-300mm not bad la. for the IQ.
only diff is 24-120mm got N and f4 all d way.

of course cant compare to 70-200mm. same does the price tag.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 01:18 PM)
All? Lulz when I see this statement.

Drop the idea of getting that 18-270. If you need tele lens, get 70300.
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Only people that do not have 70-200 crave for it, for those who already have it we just worship it  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Once you've used good IQ lens you can never turn back... LOL.
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almost wanted to get it last time but went for Tokina 11-16 instead ... no regrets getting the Tokina ... brows.gif
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my vote goes to 70-300 VR ...

almost wanted to get it last time but went for Tokina 11-16 instead ... no regrets getting the Tokina ...    brows.gif
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my vote goes to 70-300 VR ...

almost wanted to get it last time but went for Tokina 11-16 instead ... no regrets getting the Tokina ...    brows.gif
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Wah from telephoto to WA  shocking.gif ... btw the tokina is a bit soft compared to the nikkor 1
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afs 35mm 1.4 or afs 84mm 1.4 or 24mm f1.4. thinking to get the holy grail of trinity lense
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 18 2011, 02:02 PM)
is tokina 11-16 or 12-24 better? hmm.gif
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afs 35mm 1.4 or afs 84mm 1.4 or 24mm f1.4. thinking to get the holy grail of trinity lense
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24 f/1.4, 24-70 f/2.8 , 70-200 VRII ... complete set ... thumbup.gif

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the 12-24 has a longer range & is slightly better IQ ... but the Tokina is a bang for buck lens to me cos i usually shoot at 11mm ...    whistling.gif

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Wait a sec, i thought it was the other way around? blink.gif

Unless you're talking about nikon 12-24 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(eddy230379 @ Feb 18 2011, 02:06 PM)
the 12-24 has a longer range & is slightly better IQ ... but the Tokina is a bang for buck lens to me cos i usually shoot at 11mm ...    whistling.gif


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24 f/1.4,  24-70 f/2.8 ,  70-200 VRII ... complete set ...      thumbup.gif
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but tokina doesn't AF with my D3100 right?
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QUOTE(eddy230379 @ Feb 18 2011, 02:06 PM)
the 12-24 has a longer range & is slightly better IQ ... but the Tokina is a bang for buck lens to me cos i usually shoot at 11mm ...    whistling.gif


Added on February 18, 2011, 2:07 pm

24 f/1.4,  24-70 f/2.8 ,  70-200 VRII ... complete set ...      thumbup.gif
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D3100 cannot AF with prime lens right since prime lens dun have AF...and D3100 body dun have AF too?
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D3100 cannot AF with prime lens right since prime lens dun have AF...and D3100 body dun have AF too?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 18 2011, 02:16 PM)
D3100 cannot AF with prime lens right since prime lens dun have AF...and D3100 body dun have AF too?
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D3100 cannot AF with prime lens right since prime lens dun have AF...and D3100 body dun have AF too?
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yup ... i have to agree that the Tokina is a bit soft ... but i usually use it @ f/4 & above plus the distortion is well controlled ...
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but i find it much sharper than nikkor at f4 and below wo...
maybe d nikkor i try is lemon copy?
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which prime lens you are talking about?
it will AF with AF-S lenses
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correct me if i m worng...my question is about Auto Focus only. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 18 2011, 02:22 PM)
in general gua... duno..last time discuss with friend he said in general Prime Lens dont have built in AF motor since the lens is short..and if use beginner body then had to manual foucs.  hmm.gif
correct me if i m worng...my question is about Auto Focus only.  nod.gif
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newer lenses (including prime lenses usually come with AF-S) therefore it will be able to do auto focus with entry level body.
however lens those days old old lenses. like 50mm 1.8 which doesn't come with AF-S won't be able to auto focus with entry level body as it doesn't have AF motor.
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holy ....  drool.gif
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Lol my pants are getting wet just by seeing those images  tongue.gif , but u can get even better by getting the latest 200mm F/2 VRII  drool.gif
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Bokeh wise I guess still 300mm f2.0 rawks biggrin.gif
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I wonder how heavy is that thing, must practice more muscles before getting those lens  tongue.gif ...
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The person still can handheld it at 1/160s brows.gif , very strong arms shocking.gif
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Yeah just a few days ago at Funan Singapore with my friends, coz the shop didn't have the stock for the 24-120 my friend was looking so he ask us to try this out which is a bit cheaper but got longer range.

And I ask him to let me try the 70-200 2.8 too. The 28-300 at 300mm indoor I have to bump up the ISO to 6400 and there's some vignetting altho the image is quite sharp. However, when I compare it with the 70-200 it's like heaven and earth. But it's okay if you're not too demanding it's a nice lens that offer pretty sharp image but it's a lil too dark sometimes thru the viewfinder especially compare to the 70-200 which is a much faster lens.
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Buy buy buy ! Am waiting 50mm f/1.2G too brows.gif
Then it should be good pair up between 24, 50 and 85 !
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The person still can handheld it at 1/160s  brows.gif , very strong arms  shocking.gif
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Comparing 70-200 with 28-300 sweat.gif
Of course heaven and earth la.
Buy buy buy ! Am waiting 50mm f/1.2G too brows.gif
Then it should be good pair up between 24, 50 and 85 !
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 18 2011, 12:49 PM)
so the verdict will be 70-300mm vr instead of the 18-270mm tamron?
since both more or less same price range.
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u r talking about which tamron 18-270? there's a new model came out recently. Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD http://www.tamron.com/en/photolens/di_II_a...n_one/b008.html
The reviews says it is better than the old one. This one has a new improved PZD AF motor which is said to be faster, quiter than the old version. and it is small & light too (450g).
btw, i've never tried tamron ... but i did had the same thought as u. The price of this one is ~RM2k+.

here are the review of it :
http://www.tamronlensreview.com/tamron18270pzdvcreview
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/tamron-a...ii-vc-pzd-15448

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it's time to get a monopod!  brows.gif
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 18 2011, 12:48 AM)
He said nt much better, not 55-300 same as 55-200, so wat i said 55-300 better not wrong wat  sweat.gif
N 55-300 got better VR, longer range, metal mount, its true its better than 55-200, but i didn say better by alot
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Btw is it possible to get 80200 two touch below 3k used? hmm.gif
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But once in a while u'll see ppl selling below 3k, condition so-so.
YL selling used one at 3k.
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Heading to Langkawi soon with some friends for a few days. Wondering if I should bring along my tripod?
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I was searching for this lens too a couple of months ago. Most of the sellers are selling around 3-3.5k.
But once in a while u'll see ppl selling below 3k, condition so-so.
YL selling used one at 3k.
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different class of bokeh  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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u r talking about which tamron 18-270? there's a new model came out recently. Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD http://www.tamron.com/en/photolens/di_II_a...n_one/b008.html
The reviews says it is better than the old one. This one has a new improved PZD AF motor which is said to be faster, quiter than the old version. and it is small & light too (450g).
btw, i've never tried tamron ... but i did had the same thought as u. The price of this one is ~RM2k+.

here are the review of it :
http://www.tamronlensreview.com/tamron18270pzdvcreview
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/tamron-a...ii-vc-pzd-15448

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Btw is it possible to get 80200 two touch below 3k used? hmm.gif
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got hexagonal bokeh shaped. rclxub.gif
I want it badly also never got.
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got hexagonal bokeh shaped.  rclxub.gif
I want it badly also never got.
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Added on February 18, 2011, 4:57 pmand.. its not hexagon. it's heptagon

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shashinki sold a couple of used two touch AF-D before for rm2350 and rm2450.
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always shot wide open how to get? laugh.gif


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Yeah, I suppose I would still stick back to Nikon! Hopefully i dont change my mind from now until tmr! smile.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 18 2011, 05:02 PM)
huh? got to stop down to get such effect?  icon_question.gif
sifu teach me lar.
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Stop down your aperture bro.......

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 18 2011, 05:03 PM)
LOL  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 18 2011, 05:12 PM)
Stop down your aperture bro.......
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Okay. will try.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 18 2011, 05:16 PM)
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Okay. will try.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 18 2011, 05:16 PM)
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Okay. will try.
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Lol of how to get if always shoot at wide open.

Btw, i got something to share with you , and i still rmb u want to know about the panning

Sources from Digital Photography School.
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post Feb 18 2011, 05:34 PM

I was like LOL :D
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 18 2011, 05:17 PM)
yes.. experience is the best teacher.. not me.. or other people.. hands on la bagus thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 18 2011, 05:27 PM)
Lol of how to get if always shoot at wide open.

Btw, i got something to share with you , and i still rmb u want to know about the panning

Sources from Digital Photography School.
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well.. in fact I don't always shoot at wide open bro. I've been at f8. tongue.gif
don't simply jump into the conclusion.

thanks for the share.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 18 2011, 05:34 PM)
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well.. in fact I don't always shoot at wide open bro. I've been at f8. tongue.gif
don't simply jump into the conclusion.

thanks for the share.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 18 2011, 05:00 PM)
yea, but on avg most AF-D are rm3k.

why not interested in the push pull AF-D?
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Only possible with those 6/7 blade lens. Those 9 rounded blade lens usually will give nice round bokeh even when step down.
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QUOTE(gnome @ Feb 18 2011, 05:45 PM)
Never use a push pull lens before laugh.gif
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try la.. best woo..feel like sniper laugh.gif

(but i use old 70-210 la..)
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ok, i am goin for it. 70-300mm VR it shall be! smile.gif

cheapest i can source so far is RM1750 for 70-300mm VR lens (new). If anyone happen to know of a better deal, pls lemme know.


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using the cheapest lens also can
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 18 2011, 06:25 PM)
using the cheapest lens also can
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Feb 18 2011, 01:48 PM)
N coat lens for me all the way, damn my 16-35 tomorrow only can collect .. Been waiting for almost 1 week  cry.gif
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N coat no N coat I don't really see any big differences after put on xs-pro also tongue.gif

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 18 2011, 06:25 PM)
using the cheapest lens also can
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The heptagon bokeh? I think only cheap lens can la laugh.gif . Lemme try finding if I have any shaped bokeh when I stop down my lens first...

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Camera Nikon D700
Exposure 0.01 sec (1/100)
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Focal Length 85 mm
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Camera Nikon D700
Exposure 0.01 sec (1/100)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 85 mm
ISO Speed 3200

85mm f/1.4G step down to f/2.8, no shaped bokeh because of the aperture design. These heptagon usually due to 7 blade aperture design, usually older nikkor lens have this when step down aperture. Newer and higher end nikkor lens all uses 9 rounded blade design. Take the 50mm for example, the D versus the G. 7 blade versus 9 blade.

QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 18 2011, 06:29 PM)
N coat no N coat I don't really see any big differences after put on xs-pro also tongue.gif
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What sort of differences do u mean?

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u should step down to f/16.. and see got or not tongue.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 06:36 PM)
What sort of differences do u mean?
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Ghosting and flares. smile.gif
With the filter on, indeed magically lesser compare to a naked lens. smile.gif
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u should step down to f/16.. and see got or not  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 18 2011, 06:53 PM)
Ghosting and flares. smile.gif
With the filter on, indeed magically lesser compare to a naked lens. smile.gif
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Wah, XS-Pro reduces ghost and flare? -.-... impossible la. The filter not to do that. The moment you introduce another element (the filter) you are actually degrading the image. Only differences between good versus lousy filter is, the good ones degrade lesser compared to the lousy ones.
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flares is nice what..
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 06:54 PM)
sweat.gif  doh.gif
Wah, XS-Pro reduces ghost and flare? -.-... impossible la. The filter not to do that. The moment you introduce another element (the filter) you are actually degrading the image. Only differences between good versus lousy filter is, the good ones degrade lesser compared to the lousy ones.
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Not really sure how it works myself, but from my photos those pictures taken with the filters on, I feel that they are nicer overall.
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 18 2011, 06:16 PM)
ok, i am goin for it. 70-300mm VR it shall be! smile.gif

cheapest i can source so far is RM1750 for 70-300mm VR lens (new). If anyone happen to know of a better deal, pls lemme know.
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Where you quote the price? Mind share the information with me?
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 18 2011, 06:55 PM)
flares is nice what..
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p.s. not shot with N lens nor filter =P
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Err.... nice?

QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 18 2011, 06:59 PM)
Not really sure how it works myself, but from my photos those pictures taken with the filters on, I feel that they are nicer overall.
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Could due to different tint from the filter, cause those filters gives a different tint perhaps.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 07:07 PM)
Err.... nice?
Could due to different tint from the filter, cause those filters gives a different tint perhaps.
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if u dont like, doesnt mean others too whistling.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 07:07 PM)
Err.... nice?
Could due to different tint from the filter, cause those filters gives a different tint perhaps.
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Could be...

After calculated the amount of money I saved this month plus angpow money, I might be able to grab 16-35 when I get next month's allowance already brows.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 18 2011, 07:08 PM)
if u dont like, doesnt mean others too  whistling.gif
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Didn't mention I don't like, I just asked if you think it is nice? laugh.gif

QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 18 2011, 07:16 PM)
Could be...

After calculated the amount of money I saved this month plus angpow money, I might be able to grab 16-35 when I get next month's allowance already brows.gif  whistling.gif
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1735 and 1635? shocking.gif What for have 2 lens with similar range? Or are you selling the 1735 off?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 07:19 PM)
Didn't mention I don't like, I just asked if you think it is nice?  laugh.gif
1735 and 1635?  shocking.gif What for have 2 lens with similar range? Or are you selling the 1735 off?
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17-35 have to return back to my dad from next month onwards already... bye.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 18 2011, 07:22 PM)
17-35 have to return back to my dad from next month onwards already...  bye.gif
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Its alright, in terms of optics the 1635 kicks the 1735 hard tongue.gif.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 18 2011, 05:34 PM)
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well.. in fact I don't always shoot at wide open bro. I've been at f8. tongue.gif
don't simply jump into the conclusion.

thanks for the share.
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I did not say u shoot at wide open haha

i Lol at razur statement sweat.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 07:22 PM)
Its alright, in terms of optics the 1635 kicks the 1735 hard tongue.gif.
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Haha hopefully tongue.gif
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Haha hopefully tongue.gif
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It is, the only UWA zoom better is the 1424.
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QUOTE(gnome @ Feb 18 2011, 05:45 PM)
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u should go try.
ppl say the push pull AF-D is about maybe 20% slower in focusing than the two touch AF-D.
but i doubt many can really notice it, also of cos depends what body u put it on.
of cos main reason to try it is 2nd hand can get rm1.8k tongue.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 18 2011, 07:27 PM)
It is, the only UWA zoom better is the 1424.
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That one also very very tempting, but I rather go "low profile" with 16-35. tongue.gif
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What you guy think about tamron1750mm VC ?

I dont like to use 3rd party (i did not say the 3rd party not good) but i have no choice , nikkor 1755mm out of my budget and i prefer to save the money to get 24-70mm, 24mm, FX as I need two bodies (FX and DX) one for video one for shoot

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 18 2011, 09:12 PM)
What you guy think about tamron1750mm VC ?

I dont like to use 3rd party (i did not say the 3rd party not good) but i have no choice , nikkor 1755mm out of my budget and i prefer to save the money to get 24-70mm, 24mm, FX as I need two bodies (FX and DX) one for video one for shoot
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Well, optics wise its pretty good for a lens at that price. But it is slow in AF and also hunts under low light.
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 18 2011, 07:16 PM)
Could be...

After calculated the amount of money I saved this month plus angpow money, I might be able to grab 16-35 when I get next month's allowance already brows.gif  whistling.gif
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So nice... I nid to wait till 2013 for 24mm... cry.gif

Btw, reli poisoned 99 by Sigma 50mm on FX d other day >_<
Tempting to get FX body with only 50mm instead of getting 24mm
3 nites cant sleep well d cry.gif

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