Since I will be re-doing the wiring at my house, the contractor asked me to mark out the spots where I want my lights to be. Currently, the house is using flourescent lights, and I plan to switch to downlights (those embedded into the flat plaster ceiling - i do not plan to do those L Box and stuff like that, just a plain flat plaster ceiling).

I read somewhere that the rule of thumb is to have the lights 1m apart from the wall & about 1.5m - 2m apart for each light. Is there any truth to that?

Also, any recomendation on what lights to use/not to use?

I have a high ceiling living room that goes up to the 2nd floor (those who have seen the 1.5 story USJ house would know what I mean). Instead of using chandeliers, is there an alternative to iluminate my living room? Suggestions/share of experiences are very much welcome!

Many thanks in advance!

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 6 2010, 03:26 PM

hahaha....florasense light

Better for you to have a rough idea where you want lights and go through it with your contractor..

play with dialux software to do 3d simulation

@kathlynn,
You can also speak with the plaster ceiling fella and ask him for his recommendations.

if u dunwan chandelier, juz put downlight with bigger watt bulbs.

then can consider to put soft/warm light by install wall light or floor light.

btw, juz my 2 cents idea..

thank you for politely pointin out my spelling mistake!

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Added on July 6, 2010, 3:30 pm@vinluv & tinkerbel - i would discuss with my contractor, but I was tryin to do some research myself first. especially from LYN forumers whom have plenty of constructive opinions....

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Added on July 6, 2010, 3:31 pmdoes having higher watts affect the plaster ceiling board?

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 6 2010, 03:32 PM

just remember dun install it too high. later hard to change bulb.

think energy saving and environmental friendly. Use something that gives out little heat.

LED...

@kathlynn,
You're gonna need to know roughly what you want or how you want the lightings to be.

In my last experience, I sat with the plaster ceiling fella and we both came up with the design He gave some pretty valuable information

some articles that you guys may find interesting - http://www.ehow.com/way_5316740_lighting-i...iving-room.html

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Added on July 6, 2010, 5:03 pmhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/homes/design/lighting_types.shtml

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 6 2010, 05:03 PM

if u hv budget... yes, install all LED light for common lighting.

then buy other soft tone floor light / wall light

Hi,

my best advice to you - go to any of your friend house who had just renovated their house., and see for your self.. how many lighting point they installed and what type.

I've made some silly mistake by just following the ceiling contractor advice on lighting point.

When the whole house completed and i switch on all the light.! Whoaaa!! my house like a hypermarket or hotel - very the bright!! even switch off half also still over-bright.

so.., before you spend like mad following the contractor advice.. seek for yourself.. any of your friend house. and try to reduce the lighting point.

If you see the house in english movie - their lighting is very simple., and not too bright.

Now.. everytime i'm back at my house.., i'm still looking at those extravaganza light that I've installed at my house.. .. ! silly me.

Hopefully all this light will be useful one day - when i do any event or during hari-raya open house.. hhahaha..

thanks for your advise! yes, im also worried that my hse looks like its perpectually christmas or something. but worse still if its not bright enough...

may consider gettin a few dimming controller - so that can adjust to liking.....

Downlights - 4 incher or 6 incher with or without glass
Bulb - energy saving or 'coiled' looking ones or LED

Apart from those, gotta take into consideration your ceiling height.
Say standard 2800mm, you may go for 1pc downlight for every 1 meter (4 incher).

Just a guide, there's no rule. It's a matter of preference, mixing and matching.

thanks nick!~

im lookin at "spotlights" for my house too, since the wall is too high, i need to use these at the ceilings - something like this




my mom warned me against it tho, sayin tat its too "hot"... would anyone have the alt to this?

yes this is very hot light bulb, generating alot of heat. there are similar designs with different light bulb

Yea I fully agree with morpheuzneo. except my scenario is insufficient lightings! End of the day, it depends on your personal preference..do you like your house bright or dim cosy type? Personally, I prefer bright environment as I read a lot.. At my new place which I've just renovated, my contractor recommended to have only 8 downlights in my living room which I find it insufficient (18W energy saving bulbs with frosted glass cover). So I changed the bulbs the the 24W type instead of changing the downlight to 2 bulbs housing type...

what's the built up of your living room if you dont mind sharing. im considering using the dimmin control as recommended by some website. so you can create an bright or dimmer environment as you like.

if you read alot, its best to use a lamp or a floor light. better for your eyes too!

well if you use the d/light n using the light save bulb ..then u cannot use the dimmer...

if you use the with glass for th d/light so you need to be rajin lor as in 3 months time kena open up n clean the dead insect..

spiral is better light than 3 or 4 'U' bulb type...

plus the color of the light - Warm / Cool Daylight / Daylight makes the difference of the area..if not percaya then try all these type color...your wall color will look so different due to the it...

anyway..all back to personal opinion...cheers..

energy saving bulb can also do dimmer nowadays, is about twice the price of a normal energy saving bulb... It is available infact.

oh. in tat case i can use these spotlights, put in a dimmer & use energy saving bulbs! best of all worlds!

hehehe..unless yr pocket can say so.....

yikes. how much you reckon it will cost?

antzan makes a very good point up there..


1st - the type of buld. I use the standard 18w plc philip.

2nd - the colour! cool daylight will give you a flourescent type of brightness - a bit to white to my likin (read : my likin might not the same with your likin ya! )
- the daylight - for is just nice bright with a tint of yellowish.
- the warm - wargh this one - is too yellow already..! - but it depend on your liking lah.

3rd - if you use all cfl light (energy saving bulb) - there's no way you can use dimmer to the cfl. the only option is - this is what i do to the house - group the light into certain group. - means you can divide the light into sectional or you can group it into half-half.. or whatever pattern you like ler.

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for some example of how bright is my house.. after installing all the christmas light.. click below :

Akhirnya menyala! (lampu)

this blog chronicles some of my renovation work done to my house.. you can also leave a comment there.. . (but process is done deal lah! - so learn from my mistake or something that might inspired you! chewaah)

This post has been edited by morpheuzneo: Jul 7 2010, 07:20 PM

Dimmerable energy saving bulbs.

http://www.litebulbs.co.uk/category/86/dimming.aspx

Lots of them!

You can hunt for local one from houz depot in mutiara damansara too...

energy saving bulb not dimmerable, is past history now.

looking at your link above - if i use the standard 18w plc bulb and replace with this dimmerable light buld - the cost is 11 uk pound = convert to MRY = > 11 British pounds = 53.723548 Malaysian ringgits

wow.! if i had 50 light point? how much for a bulb?

the normal philips 18w plc energy saving bulb only cost me around RM4 to max RM4.50.

if using non branded - around rm2 ringgit only.

so.. does it worth it?

u are not going to have dimmerable light point all over your house are you ..

First and foremost, dont listen to any SH idea of using LED to brighten up the room. For some fancy corner visual effect or narrow corridor fine!

LED output and brightness is the worst in terms of per dollar! Also the reliability is questionable as too many china mali!

Even the GE or OSRAM can be fake also what with LED without branding.

Since you rewiring and plaster ceiling to be done, I suggest you to work out with your cont to have separate switches perhaps 1 switch for 2 downlight. When chosing down light go for 6 or 8in size. Anything smaller is useless and cant accomodate higher watts bulb.

You can chose the round vertical or Square horizontal. With the square horizontal, you can opt to 2 bulb per point. The upgrade cost is very minimal. Your wall color and furnishing can dictate the brightness so if you have twin bulb system, you can remove one when its too bright.

My living room is about 28ftx16ft. I have only 8 single down light with 18w each. The one near the wall, I have it on warm yellowish for ambience. the rest just warm white. I also have a track halogen light near another wall for ambience and mood setting each one is 30w. Because of my living/dining, I have 2 lamp shade hanging down at 18w each.

When I want it bright, I just own 4 down light and thats it. Switching on all will make it brighter than day time. My friend did the same but he was on twin bulb, ended up he have to remove one bulb each to prevent night blindness glare!

If you carefully place the downlight in your room, you can save alot in term of electricity, bulb and quantity.

I use 4pcs 6" downlight and 18w saving bulb to enough light my master bedroom. And it quite bright. The bulb last for 7-8yrs before each change.

went light shoppin this weekend, so many choices of lights, even for downlights - there's the square & circle ones, with one bulb or two...gosh.....

anyways, one of the sales person suggested that i use something like this for my high ceiling...



wonder if it will look ok with really long wires dangling from two stories high? hmmmm

yup for your downlight maybe you also can link it using the 'IC' box..e.g using the same 1 switch..on 1st..light A on..then again using the same switch other light on or both row on...walaaaaa...

chk the detail on the bulb itself..ado china mali lor..

also what theme u want it to b...cozy or bright....some color bulb makes your wall color dull...

plus chk the type of the bulb...screw or plc....spiral or u type....

chk wther your DB board can cope with amount of the lights if all on...takut trip or fire hazard..

chk the wiring also using the 2.0mm ?...takut they curi curi using the thin 1...

you can have the dimmer energy saving but all comes to the budget lor...

or you can also option using the remote light control...e.g 'TOMATO' remote control...so wisely plan your wiring...like most lighting shop do..but makes you a 'Potato Coach'..hehehe...

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wow. ok, there's a long checklist of things i need to be weary of... thanks ya!~ will keep that in mind when i go light shoppin again...

btw, jus to share, i went to Old Klang Road & notice that they price is wayyyy cheaper than the one i check in SS2 ytd... but in terms of quality wise, im am not so sure. however, for the hanging pendant light (similiar to the photo attached earlier), the one in SS2 "workmanship" more "fine".... maybe i will get the downlights from OKR & the hanging lights from ss2

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Added on July 11, 2010, 10:32 pmbtw- i have two conflicting opinions from two diff light vendors. some say use the one with choker - longer life span for the bulb. another one mention that no diff usin choker or non-choker, in fact choker more costly & inconvinient to maintain for homes..

anyone to share their experience?

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 11 2010, 10:32 PM

antzan, mind to clarify meaning of "makes you a potato coach"....

Which shops in OKR by the way?

Try check around in puchong. Than you know where is the cheapest.

Yes, choke type more longer lifespan. Mind last 7-8yrs. Most of the saving bulb spoil cause by electronic parts. Which cause by the heat.

its a figurative meaning of one who lies down & does nothing

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 12 2010, 01:37 PM

Potato Coach - kebuncitan yg meningkat like me lor...

yes..choke better ..but..all depends on u ler..plus it your d/light have glass then chances to burn more..as heat....

chk price at Avalon also...mind me not sales man avalon but some places can get cheap if u do survey...anyway i'm in melaka...so being scout around gila babe...good luck in your survey...

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Added on July 12, 2010, 1:25 pmso 1stly..you ned to determine the theme or purpose of your lighting..

then total lights needed or 'LUMEN'..then size or type

Can it be done ..Your DB can carry or not..better print picture and plot the size or the area..

then Survey time...if not wasting time n RM$ ajer....

This post has been edited by antzan: Jul 12 2010, 01:25 PM

i went to two shops. one next to alken, the other right opposite. didnt get the name of the shops tho. sorry. but if u drive pass at night, u wont miss it!

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Added on July 12, 2010, 1:41 pmmy hse kecik aje, & im gettin a new DB, so i think it can carry....

i takda theme for lighting la - as simple as "as long as boleh nampak, ok edi"

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Added on July 12, 2010, 1:45 pmbtw, this is the price i got from a few shops (on average) on square downlight

ss2 - RM30 (for 2 bulbs, excl bulbs. this is w choker)

jkl - RM10 (for 2 bulbs, excl bulbs. this is without choker)

This post has been edited by kathlynn: Jul 12 2010, 01:45 PM

chk 1st what is your height of your ceiling..as higher it goes the bigger area light shown...

anyway why need 2 light bulb in it?too bright nanti...more bulb more power..more heat generate...then if w glass chances to burn higher..plus glaring...

is pin type and screw type energy saver bulb both got choker? i'm planning to use 6" square downlight for my living hall size around 16 feet x 13 feet (use 8pcs square) will need 2 bulbs or 1 already enough?

This post has been edited by koled_anie: Jul 12 2010, 06:48 PM

i have the same question with you. some salesperson say 1 is enough, another say two.

but to be safer, if u sked, then go for two, bcoz if its too bright, u can remove one bulb...

but if u go for one, u cant add another.....

wow 8 pc too much lor...too bright...myb 6 enough...plus when do wiring ..do section 'on' by section..

if on not all light will on at 1 time...so better control of it...mine using 6" but - 1 bulb...4 unit only but i have 'L' box with T5 in it...section on - a) at sofa..b) at TV cabinate...make it cozy it needed plus 1 show downlight that have 360' degree turning just to have the centre piece light shown....area 17ft X 14ft...wall color near magnolia color..JOTUN....using the remote control..

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Added on July 12, 2010, 8:07 pmor maybe you can post your ceiling pic...for better advise...your downlight have glass?...with frosted or clear glass?...what is height of your ceiling?...

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Added on July 12, 2010, 8:08 pmplus yours is slim or the cone type?

This post has been edited by antzan: Jul 12 2010, 08:08 PM

frosted one seems better (IMHO). less glaring.... bt again, it depends!

that why..frosted ok but its blocks some light...like u said...some frosted glass have the 'Rainbow' effect..nice..mine cannot as hse 2km frm sea....so..ned to use the aluminium only...n beside 'SAWAH' windy.....plus more window opening n have sliding door at living area..'NATURAL' light...

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i tips to buy light bulb at bulk price - I go to contractor lighting supplier.

In jalan pudu got few shop behind the eletronic shop selling in bulk.

Quite cheap - can get 3.50 - 4.50 (depending on quantity you're buying) for Philips 18w PLC light.

i haven't get chance to tke the pic yet....will update it soon once available....

2day contractor gonna fix my d/light....

now i'm planning to put 5pcs downlight at the living hall (size around 16ft X 16ft) + L-Box with T5 only above TV cabinet area, ceiling height around 11ft to 12ft. i attached my downlight grid location with the square type 6" i plan to put. plan to do wiring to control:-
(1) 2 bulb side of fan + 1 bulb center of bulb (1 switch)
(2) 2 bulb on side of the centre bulb (1 switch)


any sifus here can give some comment and advice....

thanks!

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Added on July 16, 2010, 4:09 pmany sifus can help to comment on my setting?

thanks!!

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Any window or liding door?..where is your main door?...if middle d/light above sofa maybe you can change to projector light with 2 lights (360 degree turn)...then myb you can have show centre piece on the centre sofa table if all off except these light...

your front 2 d/light near tv - as 1 switch...then above sofa 1 switch..projector light - 1 switch...your L box - 1 switch...fan 1 switch..plus if u add the remote..hehehe...nice lor...you can make it cozy mozy...haiya..bestnyaaaa...just my personal opinion...peace to all...

how about this one, the yellow color is the projector light 360 but only 1 bulb each...others down light color showed the switch combination control...



any comments? is it will cozy mozy as well?? hahaha...


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ok..what color is your wall?...is there any L box?...any window?...as certain color wall does have effect upon color of the bulb...same make the wall pale ..some make it wow...

living hall guest n family hall have the partition 'Fung shui'?....location of the sofa?...

Ensure your fan using the 60" type w 5 blade...if not..haiya....

wall color something like light cream color. wat bulb color suitable 4 it? d blue color bold is L box area. sofa will be L shape opposite d l-box...

there's 1 window beside main entrance & another 1 on side of it in the living hal 4 guest....no window for family hall....

yup, will put the mighty sensa 5 on family area...kekeke...2hp aircond for family hall will be next phase reno...

for the color bulb its depend on personel like...test 1st warm type.. ..then warm white...as light color does have effect on the wall color that either bring out the color of it...

wow sensa 5..KDK....RM580/pc...A/con - take Daikin - can use the normal piping even inverter type..cheaper cost...

guys, lighting sifus..

Imagine my dining area is :
1. A triangular area
2. plaster ceiling with upturn to host the downlights.
3. Ceiling fan in the middle of the area

Will the lights throw from the downlights on 4 sides of the triangular plaster ceiling creates any shadow while we have our meals?? Please enlighten if you have any experience in placing downlights..

i think wanna put warm white 1st...d shop said still can change if not satisfy with d bulb color....hope warm white will not effect d wall color....i kinda like d slightly yellowish color...

got mine sensa 5 for only RM555, bought 1 set onli specially for my family hall (let them enjoy it . living hall & kitchen using only K14Y9-MP onli, still 5 blade. Room all use wall type...

planning to get Daikin also, but with such big area i dun think inverter will work well....what do u think....

well....check this out

Size your room correctly! A quick way to calculate aircond cooling capacity for your room is:

i. find volume of room in cubic feet - length x width x height and multiply by 6.
ii. add 500btu per person in the room to this figure.
example. 12' x 15' x 8' = 1440 cubic ft. multiply by 6 = 8640. add 500 for one person = 9140. This means the room needs an AC unit of about 9000btu/h to cool it properly.

This is very important as a unit with cooling capacity too high for your room will turn on and off frequently (when the compressor turns on, it draws A LOT OF power compared to when it is running normally, just like turning our PCs on and off frequently, you wouldn't do that right?) and unable to remove moisture from your room efficiently. A unit too low will take a long time and consume a lot of power to cool your room. So size and match your room to aircond capacity properly!

2. pay attention to the (energy efficiency rating) EER number on the unit's specification sheet. Avoid brands that do not furnish this number either on their website or product brochures. The higher the EER the more efficient it is (uses less power to do the same job as lower rated ones). To calculate EER, take the btu and divide by the unit's power input in watts. example, 9000btu/900watts = 10 EER. In general, buy units with 10 and above EER.

3. Be careful with btu/h numbers, some companies round this number up. Pay attention to the cooling capacity in kilowatts. 1 kW = 3.412 btu/h. My new SHARP is listed as 9000btu/h but on the compressor, it is listed as only 2.5kW meaning it really is only 8530btu/h with an EER of only 9.22. Bummer!

4. Inverter units are not worth the extra cost in purchase price, installation and maintenance. They will only save $$ if run continuously at temperatures around 26C or 27C and if the room is very well insulated. So if you run your aircond infrequently (only on hot days) and at 24C, it's best to just buy a normal non-inverter unit.

5. Even though units with high EER may use less power (such as the 5 star energy star panasonic models), they cost a bomb and it will take several years for you to recover the difference in cost in terms of savings unless you run it everyday for 10 or more hours per day (such as office environment). For example, even though my Sharp has a lower EER rating it is cheaper than a similar Sharp unit with high EER but costs about 300-400 more. Using a convenient excel calculator, I can save about RM50 per year based on normal usage which, in theory, means it will take 6-8 years to recover the initial cost. This does not take into account servicing costs. So decide what suits you.


anyway...it would be like in a hotel/resort feel..nice...try to have remote in also...remote i think can get for less than RM40..

gosh, havin this big headache bout lightin my kitchen. went to a couple of lighting shop & all of them gave diff opinion. varies from 4 light points to 9 light points!

im thinkin of jus doin 6... but am woried that its too much/too lil.....

sigh.

wat is ur kitchen size? wall height?

14ft by 14 ft. wall height bout 10-11ft? not so sure...

14' x 14' area 4 downlight should be enough edi....if u didnt plan to put ceiling fan then can add hang type deco lamp in centre to backup if not bright enough...

Four enough?

Someone even suggested 9 or 12.
I am not sure on what basis. How do you come up with 4 if you don’t mind me askin?

if u use 6" downlight either square or round shape it should be enough...
the hang type lamp will cover if still not enough...

my 2 cents...

yup should be enough ...your kitchen cabinate have light under it?...max 6...but u can still format it lights on in pairs...or in 3's..or 4's then 2's..on together...that will save your energy as some times u don't need to on all at once..plus then use the 21 watt bulb lor...

mine dry - 8 X 19 using only 4pc (6" - 18watt)...on squence 1 n 3..or all on using the 'IC' box..

wat color used? warm light?

Hi light experts,

My living area about 14ft X16ft, height 9-10ft. how many 6inches (square) downlight do you think require? one bulb or 2 bulbs?
plan for plain board plaster ceiling only, no Lbox, and fan in centre.
Thanks...

depends on what purpose u want it to be..cozy mozy or bright?...d/light with glass or w/out?....whats the watt bulb per d/light?...wall color?...any windows?...

prefer bright living room. and plan to have square downlight with glass cover. 1 bulb or 2 bulbs recommend for 1downlight? or one 24W bulb enough? wall colour - white, one side with 3 panel glass sliding door...
thx ya...

hmm...urs 1 almost similar 2 mine...i'm planning to put only 5pcs 6" square with 1 L-Box...haven't install yet, but planning to put onli 1 bulb 1st even i bought it with 2 bulbs. need to try 1st, if not bright enuf onli will add another 1.if oredi bright then balance will put in bedroom as i haven't bought casing yet...

if 16' x 14' 6pcs square single bulb should be enuf, backup if not bright put deco lamp in center to cover it...it can act as a deco as well....
antzan, any comments?



This post has been edited by koled_anie: Jul 20 2010, 10:27 PM

ahh...let me know the outcome after u install. will use urs a a gauge for mine!

i dunno when to do installation yet...developer haven't hand over house key yet. oredi 2 months delay.....huhuhuhu

the L box - have any T5 lights in it?...warm light should be ok...if u intend to install the d/light w glass then be 'RAJIN' lor to clean every 2 months once...plus easy to blow due to heat contain in it...plus less bright due to glass frosted..so higher watt need have..right?..but less glare..but if you use the warm white then won't be glare..no glass cheaper d/light...more bright..less power use..save RM$$$$$...

my living hall - L box with warm light in it...bright enough..so when on no need to have the all the d/light ( 1 pc/dwnlight - 18 watt - spiral) on...just like hotel ambience feel...thats why u need to plan which light on n off...so in long run save $$...feel hotel ambience..the L box also you can have it 2 color in it..hehehe...tadaaaaaa....using the 'IC' box( warm and blue color).

if wanna bright..install 21watt spiral..for info deco light usually using the warm light..more deco feel...

Anyway...my advice to u ...b4 u buy d/light..test 1st..the brightness of it...with or w/out glass...color bulb in it...all advice is up to u to follow..plus your pocket also...n 'RAJIN' to clean..

me no expert..just a guy who house alrdy 3 months delay..perhhh..so house in final stage fitting..trial n error..myb will post my living with light on for yr comment ...

Some info i posted in another thread if u guys interested

Thanks for all the advice & info

there you are..our sifu - harrychoo...

using the alu..as house nearby seaside..2km...haiyo..so no no to metal...mostly using the cool white...

Nola, not sifu, also based on recent renovation experience.

If u guys interested with cool white (i like it very much) energy saving bulb, can consider a brand called Arex, as good as GE.
Avoid Osram at all cost.

me using ' aluminious'....i think...so far ok...the amp also lower than phillip and osram..

anybody using Aletko bulb? any comments?

here my living n dinning area for your view n comment...house nearly complete..already delay 3months..


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shud take a night shoot, so can assess the brightness

my dry kitchen - using 4 pc - 6" d/light....Side picture front car porch..taken last night...tall bulb using warm white 18watt spiral type except car porch centre using e14 - warm (11watt) ...pls free comment on it...

maybe need to change the 2 bulb outside at the wall to 'Warm' color as currently it look pale.. what do you all think?...

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warm white looks better for outside...

ok.....2day my electrician call that there something wrpng w the incoming TnB power...keep tripping the ELCB...haiyaaa

Your ELCB trip if there is a shortcircuit.

TNB power shortcircuit?

hope it wont effect all d energy saving bulb....

yup lucky the technician TnB came..now all ok..only 1 bulb out..will take picture again for yr review..

some1 advice to on he DB but off all the switches...to any trip again...plus to chk on the lightning arestor...if kena 'kilat' during hujan these few days...perh nearly everyday ujan lor ...

anyone know single phase can use how many aircon?

as told by wireman that maximum running 4hp air conditioning for single phase power

ic...my house running 4hp....thinking of putting 1 more hp.......
got once fuse exploded due to 4hp + 2 water heater...

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Added on July 27, 2010, 10:53 pmat the same time...

This post has been edited by JamesPond: Jul 27 2010, 10:53 PM

does it make a difference the thickness of the wiring that you use? will it help if you use a thicker wire for those kind of electrical items?

this is not related to thickness of cable..it is the load of supply.....

if you use energy efficient a/c with low load its no problem. i am running a total of 7.5 HP all day long in my house. it's just not ever on full load so its no problem at all. can even on oven and whatnot at the same time. just have to calculate the load properly. if A/C all on full blast then probably the circuits will overload. so consider your needs in advance.

Did you upgrade your house electrical board to 60Amp circuit that need to apply to TNB?

A std house is just 30Amp circuit which not enough to take heavy load. If all your electrical run a the same time, it will blow the fuse or trip your circuit. The worst is melt your wire and caught fire.

Normally a new house will have an option to upgrade to 60Amp from 30Amp. Or already provided if the house is expensive type. If an old house, you got to check it out.

ned your comment on the color lights...Warm (car porch) and Warm White (wall light)..which 1 better..


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my opinion, keep it as per pic. more variance color looks nicer than only 1 color...



btw, like ur porch tiles design. what's d size & cost? (sorry off topic)...

yeah, i agree. combination of both is gud. love ur porch design too. share with us on tiles used/inspiration for design.

currently im also lookin to do some nice tiled featured wall for my kitchen. space bout 5ft(l)x12ft(h). wanted to jus paint it, but bcoz of some MPSJ rule or somthing, apparently you mus tile your kitchen up or something like that. sigh...

hi guys.. sidetrack.

18W Soft Warm Energy Saving Bulb (Model-EFU18E272V) (10 units)
Selling RM129

Is that cheap or just so-so?