Hi kathlynn,

Thanks for your posting and the many sharings by all. Good pointers.

A couple of pointers also that you may find useful.

1. For downlights, higher wattage should not affect the plaster ceiling in anyway, whether heat or so on. However, rule of thumb is to reduce the heat generated as much as possible as not only is energy wasted through heat but this would also take a toll on your cooling in the house, if you have air conds. Not much but if you multiply the number of downlights in your house, it does add up, resulting in a higher monthly electricity consumption

2. For 1.5 or double ceiling height houses as you mentioned, you can also put higher power downlights to light from the high ceiling to the bottom floor. However, some illumination will be lost to the upper floor instead of all the illumination reaching the area where you want it to be. This can be reduce by installating more directional lights (LED type) or as those you shown in your picture. However, we recommend that the halogen bulbs should be changed to LED type as this will save you about 16 times the energy (3W led vs 50W halogen) with a slight decrease in the lighting spread only, but it does the job.

3. Do consult your lighting and energy specialist to get further advise on your reflected ceiling plan (RCP) so that the number of downlights and wattage can be determined area by area, floor by floor.

4. Most houses are generally warm white or pure white themes. You will need to decide which one you are comfortable and for which area of your house. The same goes for brightness and so on. We have may clients and what we can share is everyone has their own liking. For some its too bright and for others vice versa. You will need to know how bright do you need the lights to be.

5. Lastly, if you have the budget, always opt to go with LED lightings. The initial investment is higher but the payback will be more than what you have invested. The more you invest now, the more you will save in the long run, about 3 - 5 years time, depending on your daily usage.

We have faced many clients, everyone with their own views respectively, at the end of the day, lighting actually plays an integral role in "mooding" the house, theming concepts, modernising the look and so on and ultimately giving you the comfort after a long days work. It should be done exactly the way you want it to be.

Hope the above was useful and do email us at cennturionstareng@gmail.com should you have any further inquiries. We will be glad to assist anyway we can.

It is unfortunate that the quality of the LED light sold to you did not meet up to expectations but yes you can remove the light and rewire it to run directly to your new white light.

If possible, do avoid purchasing these sort of lightings as mentioned as they are not as yet stable and do come up with problems usually within 6 months. If you really need to change the "mood" in your house using colour changing, toning and dimming, we would strongly recommend using the LED 3528 or 5050 type which are much more reliable (not the cheap ones), suitable for recessed ceilings and other plaster ceiling designs.

By the way, you should take the light back to where you bought it from and ask for a refund, if within the warranty period. Most of the time, its the lighting shops and quick minded sales personel who are eager for business that sometimes don't understand fully and promise the heavens but in the end, its the customers who pay the price.

We're trying to change all this and ensure the customers to know the benefits, limitations and advantages before making any purchase so that they are fully aware of what to expect. After all, we all are customers and consumers also

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Added on March 14, 2011, 12:18 pmHi Kathlynn,

If we could be of assistance to you, do contact us at 012 - 389 3797 for an appointment for us to go through your queries accordingly.

We face these sort of "client dilemma' almost on a daily basis and we provide them with the necessary advise, type of lightings, where best to put what and so on. You're most welcomed to contact us or email at centurionstareng@gmail.com. Cheers.

This post has been edited by centurionstareng: Mar 14 2011, 12:18 PM

What kind of wireless setup do you have in mind. We provide wireless control etc so you are most welcomed to email us at centurionstareng@gmail.com. Thanks

If you install 1 nos of light, the brightness will really depend on you. We have customers who do use these type of plaster square ceiling lights (twin tube) and only install one light 11w, some even 8w only. But if you want to cut your monthly bills, especially if you use the light often, you may want to try LED lightings.

The cost per bulb ranges between RM55 - 65 each for a 4 - 5w LED bulb. You can expect an ROI of betweem 2 - 4 years, depending on your daily usage. LED technology is indeed a long term thing but the returns is really worth it.

If you do find it to be not as bright as you wanted, you can still add in another LED bulb. After all, 2 nos of 5w led is only 10w, compared to the comparison of 18w x 2 = 36w.

Do feel free to email us at centurionstareng@gmail.com and we can email you some pictures of the products suited for your application cheers!

No worries, none taken bro. You're absolutely right on this That's why we cannot stress more that it is VERY important to purchase from reliable suppliers.

We offer all our clients a standard 1 year warranty on any of our LED products, some 2 years depending on quantity, and some also 3 years due to bulk purchases and our warranty is one-to-one. We are also working on a 5 year warranty for offices and factories. This warranty will only be void if we investigate that the product has failed due to over voltage current, and this is usually the cause from our experience as unfortunately mostly due to "honest client mistake" (direct plugging into 240V for 12V/24V LED ).

As you do, we also feel cost is always as issue but the more you invest, the more your returns will be. We are open to discuss the warranty period with you if you decide to change to LEDs for your house, and we're confident our product will last you many many years, and save several folds of your initial investment as well

cheers bro.

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Added on March 20, 2011, 5:25 pmGood question. Brightness is a very subjective thing and thats why we always stress to go to "site" and take a look. From there, we can actually test up the various LED lights for you and let you decide how bright you want your personal space to be. This would be best.

Generally though, spacings between lightings such as downlight can range between 1.1 - 1.5m centre to centre (from on downlight to the other). We do provide on site viewings with our clients so that we can offer advise on how to best light up the area in question, so do email us at centurionstareng@gmail.com and we look forward to working on your requirements with you

Unlike a standard lighting shop, we are an engineering company strictly focusing into LEDs, solar panels and green technology. Although we do get many positive feedback that on top of having an office, we should also have a physical lighting shop for walk in customers. Well this is something we feel is too premature and may result in more confusion and frustration for the customers as LEDs are much more than what it is. Unlike standard lightings, many of our clients do consult us and retrofit their homes and we cannot simply match Btype standard lightings with Atype LEDs just like that. We strongly believe in order to provide full client satisfaction and understanding on LEDs, we need to ensure not only our products are of good quality, but they live up to our clients requirements in terms of brightness, durability, usage and pricing.

Hope the above was useful and look forward to hearing from you.



This post has been edited by centurionstareng: Mar 20 2011, 05:25 PM

Thank you very much

Hi,

We dont know of any specific regulations or technical specification for hanging items at plaster ceiling but a point to remember if you do intend to hang those hanging lights etc, you are advised to ensure that the connection is done at the structure of the ceiling board area.

It would be better if a 'hook' is installed before you go ahead with the bigger hanging lights, and do ensure the hook is securely fastened to the roof structure as well. Hope this was useful. Cheers.


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Added on April 18, 2011, 10:21 amHi,

If it's any help, normally its flourescent type 4 ft length. If you place it 1 - 2 feet away from the wall mounted tv, there might be some glare onto the tv set, depending how you place the tv and the light, as flourescent is 360 degree illumination.

By the way, have you thought of using led tubes instead?


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This post has been edited by centurionstareng: Apr 18 2011, 10:21 AM

Hi,

LED tube would be an option as well as it is brighter but more expensive. If you do decide to use LED Strip light, we have the smd5050 together with dimmer and multi-changing light functions. You can preset to almost any colour you wish

We don't understand how come they are quoting you so expensive when our high quality smd5050 is at RM420 full set (IR controller, transformer, LED strip lights). Guess they are fleecing the public

If you use only 2 meters, please bear in mind the balance 3 meters can be installed at other areas, depending on your creativity as the strip lights can be joined. Hope this info was useful to you. Cheers.


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