This is what I found:
http://hd.engadget.com/2010/01/11/panasoni...r-black-levels/

If I'm not mistaken, Panasonic Plasma is due for replacement in Q2 this year.

Hope there will be good improvement over 2009 models.

I'm still using PV80h, and still kick butt.

This post has been edited by DigitalTech: Aug 20 2013, 10:34 AM

some models in the usa are losing their black level performance over time LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE3Mp89xHOg



This post has been edited by neb: Mar 24 2010, 06:51 PM

Looks like Malaysian models are not affected.

Read already the post below by anfieldude @ Jan 22 2010, 09:49 AM)

The S10 model that is for Asian market is a different panel. Worldwide S10 was a Full HD NeoPDP panel. It was only in limited production thus after the initial production run, production ceased and moved to NeoPDP.

The X10 that is sold here, is for worldwide market. The C10 is the same panel as the X10. U do realise that the X is also almost out of stock, except with the big chain stores. This is due the stocking agreement they have with Panny Malaysia. The 720p panels were the most manufactured as it was cheap. Also the AR was pretty dismal. The G10 locally uses the same panel as the G10 worldwide minus the THX, so firmware controlled the region release.

Thanks

VT20 already released in US and review is very good and improved compared to 2009 models.

Try to search internet for more info.

Whereas for VT25, still need to wait...

This post has been edited by low98944: Mar 22 2010, 04:49 PM

Thanks neb.

That is a funny FUNNY clip.

It sure made my day!!

jitbeng,

After actually writing this, more info on the rising blacks has been uncovered. The portion that causes rising blacks in the Panny sets will also effect sets in Asia and the world over.

+1 What a funny clip, that's a alternative way to express your disappointment

wonder why panasonic stop producing s10

This post has been edited by neb: Mar 22 2010, 07:03 PM

anfieldude,

Actually it was this post below by you in the "Everything About Plasma, LCD & LED's LCD TV V5.00 How flat can it be? (Post No.436) that I wanted to show regarding the raising black level. My apology.

anfieldude@Jan 23 2010, 07:11 AM:-
I have read and talked to some calibrators in the US that the US G series (THX) has a problem where the black levels are increasing with time. It is a firmware bug and it is not clear if it being addressed correctly. The voltage adjustment mechanism is not correct and as such the black levels increase with time. However, I cannot confirm if the same issue applies for our sets as our firmware is different.

Hopefully our sets will not be affected. Only time will tell. Anyway I read that even if affected it will hardly be noticeable under normal viewing conditions.

Interesting read regarding this at:-
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-104473...l?tag=mncol;txt

Thanks

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Added on March 22, 2010, 10:15 pmS10 is 2009 model. So naturally stop production in order to produce 2010 model.

In the US S1(2009) is being replaced by S2(2010) already sometime in January 2010. But S1 is still selling there & the irony is that the 2010 model is selling cheaper than the 2009 model. So hopefully will happen here also.

Check here (US website):- http://panasonic.com/



Here S10 almost sold out or sold out. And don't know what the 2010 model will be named - S12 maybe?

I read somewhere the 2010 model will definitely come out by end of this month.

Thanks

This post has been edited by jitbeng: Mar 22 2010, 10:24 PM

lighter black is still not fixed in 2010 series, too late to change the design I guess
panasonic engineers better fix those black bug before designing 2011 series

This post has been edited by neb: Mar 22 2010, 11:35 PM

I believe Panasonic has a roadshow to unveil their 2010 models at Sunway Pyramid tomorrow. I was all set on getting the 50" G20 but in view of the Black Level issues, I'm not so sure anymore. I might be going the Sammy way..

This post has been edited by welwitchia: Mar 23 2010, 11:15 AM

Sorry guys.. does this mean the coming 2010 models of plasma have the black level issues as well? Cuz Im looking forward to owning one since i missed the s10 models (maybe a good sign huh!)..

no one is really sure about the new series' potential deteriorated black level problem unless the TVs are subjected to long term test

below is what panasonic said about their new 2010 series, no fix but modified from previous model
quoted from cnet

Can anyone confirm on the roadshow tomoro? I'm very near to sunway might drop by to have a look after work.

Yea. I saw the ad in The Star papers.

Asia's first ever 3d roadshow in Sunway Pyramid. (25-28 March 2010)

I think they are launching the new Viera 2010 models.

2010 Panasonic Flat Panel line up :

TH-L32C20K
TH-L32X20K
TH-L37X20K - RM1,999
TH-L37U20K

TH-P42X28K
TH-P42A28K
TH-L42U29K

TH-P46X20K

TH-P50X20K
TH-P50U20K


LONG WAITED 42" LED LCD TV

TH-L42D25K - RM4,999

I believe 50PX20K is Plasma? Which one is 42in plasma?

Yes... TH-L denotes LCD while TH-P is plasma

Thanks...must be getting old, wonder how i missed that....

Wow a 46in plasma....that's new from Panny...not avail in US market for X series but for asian market only?

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Mar 24 2010, 11:10 PM

Any idea how much are those 50" Plasmas?Are they 1080p?



This post has been edited by -kytz-: Mar 24 2010, 11:12 PM

I think model U should have 1080p

Ok thanks.. might go on Friday.

There's a panasonic launch tomorrow...forgot where the venue is.

Hey bro,

Any indication on price for 42" Plasma models?

Any price and availability information?

limpe will check on it today. PM u, ok boh?

+1

qoute me for plasma 50inch Full HD......

TQ Taikor HTKAKI...only interested on the P50U20k. The rest all go play far far.

No need PM can post here for all mah...sharing is caring.

yeah, also like to know about the price for new 42" plasma tv from panasonic. heard it would be cheaper than last year model. if so, that's great!

pls update once available. thanks a lot!

it is confirmed cheaper than 2009.

So to sum it up:

Asian Panasonic plasma models (both 2009 and 2010) are affected with the black level increase?

And how are the IR on these? I have read some post saying IR is bad (for example with channel logos, gaming) even though panel hours are above 1000. is this true??

I just hope panasonic bring not just 50" entry level tv, but also the mid (especially) and the high end so we can have more choice. Not like last year.....

great! awaiting for more info of the new plasma tv...

IMHO not sure for the black level issue. For US model, yes ( can read at CNET) but for Asian model - anyone read anyway regarding black issue for Asian model.

Regarding the IR issue - A lot of postings have been said on this issue, be it the good, the bad or the ugly.

I think a lot of people are so obsessed with this issue so much so they may get OCD. "Don't worry be happy" as what Bobby McFerrin sings & throwing " i give my no. so called me when you are worried..........."

For me no issue at all.

Don't worry be happy with what you bought. Enjoy it to the fullest.

Thanks

This post has been edited by jitbeng: Mar 25 2010, 01:22 PM

hey bro jitbeng,

very well said....don't worry..be happy

no more updates on the details?

the plasma still no anti-glare coating ??

I'm using Panny PV80H since 2008. My next TV will also be Panny.

So far, I'm a very satisfied customer. Still got 3 years warranty to go.

To date, not a single flaw on my tv.

Astro and bluray looks excellent on my PV80H.

I wonder how come Panasonic manage to sell their lcd at lower price compared to same model level from Sony and Samsung

my sister last year bought Panasonic 42" for rm2.8k..
dont think can get that price for branded lcd..expect from China brand

Really can't wait the pricing for the 50" plasma fullhd

let's hope it is quite reasonable

Thanks bro reddevil04.

Life is too short for us to be worrying here & there. Enjoy life to the fullest.

Today is what you worried yesterday.

Thanks

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Added on March 25, 2010, 7:37 pmGood for you bro.

Same here with my PS10K. My next TV will also be a Panny. In fact almost all my household electrical products are Panny.

Thanks



This post has been edited by jitbeng: Mar 25 2010, 07:37 PM

Waiting (and buying) for news (price) about TH-P50X20K or TH-P50U20K.

This post has been edited by stasio: Mar 25 2010, 10:39 PM

just back from sunway pyramid panasonic roadshow... watched the 3D tv... excellent!!! everyone should go and watch it...
and the price for latest X series 42'' plasma is rm2999 plus free gift...
other series is coming soon... there is also D series which is the LED TV, also very nice, but still no price...

check out the new viera page
http://www.panasonic.com.my/viera/

Will need 2-3 days that this page be complete.

still no new updates on price & spec?

the link cannot pakai one

Can you tell us what's the new features compared to 2009 model?

See post #714 here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1118588/+700 on the views regarding IR on Panasonic and Samsumg Plasma TV.

Anybody know when new models will appear in the shops?
Today in TheStar:

Panasonic unveils 16 Viera TV models
Btw,
similar models Plasma Televisions Owner's Manuals ca be DL from Aussie site:
http://www.panasonic.com.au/support/downlo...tCategoryID=109

This post has been edited by stasio: Mar 26 2010, 02:32 PM

P42X28K is not Full HD?

no its not full hd; jst hd ready.

below is the line up list; copy paste from press release.

Panasonic VIERA TV Line-up for 2010

Plasma TV
VT Series - Full HD 3D - August 2010
TH-P65VT20K
TH-P50VT20K

V Series - Full HD - April 2010
TH-P50V20K
TH-P42V20K

U Series - Full HD - April 2010
TH-P50U20K

A Series - High Definition - April 2010
TH-P42A28K

X Series - High Definition - April 2010
TH-P50X20K
TH-P46X20K
TH-P42X20K
________________________________________________________________________

LED LCD TV

D Series - Full HD - April 2010
TH-L42D25K
________________________________________________________________________

LCD TV

U Series - Full HD - April 2010
TH-L42U29K
TH-L37U20K
TH-L32U20K

X Series - High Definition - April 2010
TH-L37X20K
TH-L32X20K

C Series - High Definition - April 2010
TH-L32C20K

This post has been edited by moon*: Mar 26 2010, 06:16 PM

Cool...seems like G series no longer being offered in MY. Wonder how much V series are, for 42" and 50". Anyone has any insider news?

the link can pakai.
At the top banner, go to Products, Plasma TV.
At the bottom, Under all products, select X28K, select the tv.
Click Download Spec

http://pdfcast.org/pdf/th-p42x28k-spec

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Mar 26 2010, 08:07 PM

Any details for vt 3d is page flipping or checkerbox? Also there is a review comparing LCD 3d to plasma and conclusion is plasma is better for 3d due to less ghosting. The comparison is between samsung led 3d vs panny plasma 3d

Just came back from the Pana roadshow at Sunway. The 3d bus so crowded and this ppl are chatting inside the mini 3d cinema than enjoying the clips. Spoke to one of the SenQ sales person.. the full hd plasma coming in on april, no exact date. Anyway its a good experience with the 3d tv, everyone should try it.

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Added on March 27, 2010, 1:09 amThat means the new 2010 Plasma 42" X series is more expensive than the 2009 model which cost if I am not mistaken around RM2,500.00. X series is only HD Ready.

Expect the new 2010 42" V series which is Full HD to cost more than the 2009 Full HD S series. The 2009 model cost around RM3,000.00.
Bought mine for RM3,050.00.

Thanks

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Added on March 27, 2010, 1:26 amIn US the 2010 model came out if I am not mistaken late January 2010.

Go here:-
http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electro...000000000005702

Compare the price & specification for the 2009 & 2010. Strangely in the US the 2010 model is cheaper than the 2009 according to the website.

Thanks



This post has been edited by jitbeng: Mar 27 2010, 01:26 AM

You guys gotta see Sarah Brightman's "Shall be Done" clip in 3D.

Youtube link

Quite impressive lol

This post has been edited by PoorMan: Mar 27 2010, 03:34 AM

whats the difference between U and V series?

From where you get this price for models 2009?
Don't mix Retail and forumer price.
VIERA TH-P42X10K are still MYR 3,699.00(Retail price)!
http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/pid/7775
Btw,
models 2010 should be cheaper 10-15%

Went to Jaya Jusco One Utama Petaling Jaya 2 days ago & saw VIERA TH-P42S10K Full HD selling at RM3,999.00 with 10% discount. After discount will be RM3,600.00. I think no more stock for this model in retail shops.

TH-P42X10K which is HD Ready should be selling cheaper than the Full HD model. Did not noticed the price for this model because not interested. I think this model still got stock in retail shops & definitely selling below RM3,600.00.

Bought my TH-P42S10K from ESH (Eng Seng Heng), PJ on Christmas day last year for RM3,050.00. The TH-P42X10K is cheaper at around RM2,500.00 but not interested because not Full HD.

Thanks

This post has been edited by jitbeng: Mar 27 2010, 10:51 AM

http://www.panasonic.net/avc/viera/us2010/...son_plasma.html

Purchased TH-P42X28K for RM 2,999 during the the Sunway Road Show with free gift of Panasonic Home Theater System, digital photo frame and a luggage bag.

That TV unit will place in my bedroom. I think I got a good deal.

Congrats on your new purchase. You can never go wrong with Panny Plasma TV.

I got my 42 inch PV80H back in 2008 for RM4300.00.

This post has been edited by DigitalTech: Mar 29 2010, 11:42 AM

So far,2010 Panasonic Flat Panel line up :

TH-L32C20K
TH-L32X20K
TH-L37X20K - RM1,999
TH-L37U20K

TH-P42X28K - RM2,299
(free gift of digital photo frame and a luggage bag.)
TH-P42A28K
TH-L42U29K

TH-P46X20K

TH-P50X20K - RM3,999
(free a digital photo frame and a tower)
TH-P50U20K - RM4,899


42" LED LCD TV

TH-L42D25K - RM4,499-4,599

This post has been edited by stasio: Apr 6 2010, 02:23 PM

Nice offer from imsobloodysick:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...=imsobloodysick

I'm waiting for s20, though.

the price for plasma & lcd TVs are really dropping like no one's business

thank god i just sold my X10 last month for 2.2k
else I'll be rugi sial after the launch of new model
and thank god again I didn't buy the S10 model at RM2500 last week on impulse
else i'll be hitting my head on the wall now

with the 42" X series can go down until RM2099 (without freebies of cos), then the S series should be around RM2.5k region

can't seem to find whether it's full hd or just hd ready (or even 1024x768)
anybody knows? no result from google. i'm guessing it's 1024x768?

Have I mentioned that I bought my 42" PV80H for RM4.3k?

http://110.74.130.145/viera/pdf/plasma/TH-P42X28K.pdf

http://www.panasonic.com.my/viera/
http://pdfcast.org/pdf/th-p42x28k-spec

yes you did

there's no resolution info in the panasonic.com.my/viera page.
did found out from the pdfcast link that you gave.

thanks a lot!

In PDF:
Resolution
1,024 x 768 (16:9)

I guess all 42 non-full HD plasmas are at that rez - 1,024 x 768 (16:9).

panasonic plama sold in the usa has 5 million to 1 native contrast ratio, plasma sold over here with 2M:1 dynamic contrast ratio, are a few genarations behind

This post has been edited by neb: Mar 29 2010, 04:13 PM

Model 2010 in USA:
TC-42PX24-2,000,000:1
TC-50PX24-2,000,000:1
TC-P42C2-2,000,000:1
TC-P46C2-2,000,000:1
TC-P50C2-2,000,000:1

panasonic has acquired pioneer kuro's technology, this will enable panasonic high end plasma to have 5M:1 native contrast ratio, usa and europe models got it, hoping to get it impemented in our asian models

U will see it on the V series mostly. Some spilled over into the G series, more ar filter and glass changes.

Huh? From my calculator, 1024/768 = 1.3333 = (4:3)

i'm interested to see how's the new viera cast perform too
too bad the X series doesn't have it
after X is C series?
I suspect the C series is the one with viera cast but only HD ready, as I remember I read somewhere there's going to be 2 lines of HD ready plasmas.

'09 models are C, X, S, G in sequence as in features & pricing

'10 model starts with X or C?

This post has been edited by greyshadow: Mar 29 2010, 08:41 PM

Any new price for models 50?

This post has been edited by stasio: Mar 29 2010, 09:27 PM

Rectangular pixels...

I'm looking forward for the V series. 2 factors to consider though at this point in time:

- promotions before World Cup
- black levels degradation over a short period of time. Is it confirmed that Asian units are affected as well?

This post has been edited by PoorMan: Mar 30 2010, 08:38 PM

i am looking at V series also....but any rough estimate on the price? 2009 V series only offer 65", but 2010 V now has 42 and 50", which looks something "reachable"....

This post has been edited by pgkia: Mar 31 2010, 02:15 PM

any different between P42X28K vs s10 vs s20 vs pv80?

Official price not available yet. Sometime in Apr/May ... just in time for World Cup

Someone posted earlier 42" LED LCD D series is slightly less than RM5K. My guess is that the 42" V Series will be around the same/slightly cheaper than the D series

Anyone here with 2009 S10/G10 with more than 1000 hours can confirm if the black levels do degrade?

Check out AVSforum, many Panasonic V20 owners saying that the 2010 model have "floating black" issues.

better stick with 2009 models then, floating black is worse than rise in black for me

Compare PV80 and the current plasma, any different? Why PV80 is 4k while current plasma only 2k?

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Added on April 1, 2010, 11:25 amhow come model number of US is different from ours? in AVS forum, they talk about G25. I don't think we have such Plasma right?

This post has been edited by gogo2: Apr 1 2010, 11:25 AM

sounded like video processing algorithm, just need to wait for firmware update

by the way, panasonic just acquired pioneer kuro technology back in may 2009, so expecting 2011 series model to get this technology

thinking of getting 50 inch plasma v-series

has the price and availability out?

Just back from the CIMB Prefect Living fair. Panasonic is selling thier new range of Plasma & LCD.

They quoted me RM 4499 for the latest 42" LED, plus a free gift photo frame (worth RM 149). Sound very attractive

Also, the 42"X28 Plasma is selling at RM 2299, plus a free gift of photo frame (worth 149).

Hurry and go to have a look if you are interested.

This post has been edited by ljchua: Apr 1 2010, 09:10 PM

Anyone have price news about 50" plasma V or VT series ?

VT with 3D full HD is so tempting~~

do u have their contact? can u help to ask how much V series is?

V series is not out yet, and they cannot even give me indicative price.

I do not have thier contact, forgot to take thier card. Anyway, there is only one Panasonic Booth there

I just called pana directly and they said v-series not out yet

Don't know when

Me from Penang, i don't even have a chance to visit there......

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Added on April 2, 2010, 10:32 amPress release mentioned out in April. As usual, all paper release nia...

This post has been edited by pgkia: Apr 2 2010, 10:32 AM