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jitbeng
post Mar 22 2010, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Mar 22 2010, 03:47 PM)
some models in the usa are losing their black level performance over time LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE3Mp89xHOg
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Looks like Malaysian models are not affected.

Read already the post below by anfieldude @ Jan 22 2010, 09:49 AM)

The S10 model that is for Asian market is a different panel. Worldwide S10 was a Full HD NeoPDP panel. It was only in limited production thus after the initial production run, production ceased and moved to NeoPDP.

The X10 that is sold here, is for worldwide market. The C10 is the same panel as the X10. U do realise that the X is also almost out of stock, except with the big chain stores. This is due the stocking agreement they have with Panny Malaysia. The 720p panels were the most manufactured as it was cheap. Also the AR was pretty dismal. The G10 locally uses the same panel as the G10 worldwide minus the THX, so firmware controlled the region release.

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post Mar 22 2010, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 22 2010, 05:52 PM)
jitbeng,

After actually writing this, more info on the rising blacks has been uncovered. The portion that causes rising blacks in the Panny sets will also effect sets in Asia and the world over.
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anfieldude,

Actually it was this post below by you in the "Everything About Plasma, LCD & LED's LCD TV V5.00 How flat can it be? (Post No.436) that I wanted to show regarding the raising black level. My apology.

anfieldude@Jan 23 2010, 07:11 AM:-
I have read and talked to some calibrators in the US that the US G series (THX) has a problem where the black levels are increasing with time. It is a firmware bug and it is not clear if it being addressed correctly. The voltage adjustment mechanism is not correct and as such the black levels increase with time. However, I cannot confirm if the same issue applies for our sets as our firmware is different.

Hopefully our sets will not be affected. Only time will tell. Anyway I read that even if affected it will hardly be noticeable under normal viewing conditions.

Interesting read regarding this at:-
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-104473...l?tag=mncol;txt

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Added on March 22, 2010, 10:15 pm
QUOTE(neb @ Mar 22 2010, 06:05 PM)
wonder why panasonic stop producing s10 brows.gif
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S10 is 2009 model. So naturally stop production in order to produce 2010 model.

In the US S1(2009) is being replaced by S2(2010) already sometime in January 2010. But S1 is still selling there & the irony is that the 2010 model is selling cheaper than the 2009 model. So hopefully will happen here also.

Check here (US website):- http://panasonic.com/



Here S10 almost sold out or sold out. And don't know what the 2010 model will be named - S12 maybe?

I read somewhere the 2010 model will definitely come out by end of this month.

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post Mar 25 2010, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(enrg @ Mar 25 2010, 11:04 AM)
So to sum it up:

Asian Panasonic plasma models (both 2009 and 2010) are affected with the black level increase?

And how are the IR on these? I have read some post saying IR is bad (for example with channel logos, gaming) even though panel hours are above 1000. is this true??
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IMHO not sure for the black level issue. For US model, yes ( can read at CNET) but for Asian model - anyone read anyway regarding black issue for Asian model.

Regarding the IR issue - A lot of postings have been said on this issue, be it the good, the bad or the ugly.

I think a lot of people are so obsessed with this issue so much so they may get OCD. "Don't worry be happy" as what Bobby McFerrin sings & throwing " i give my no. so called me when you are worried..........."

For me no issue at all.

Don't worry be happy with what you bought. Enjoy it to the fullest.

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post Mar 25 2010, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(reddevil04 @ Mar 25 2010, 03:26 PM)
hey bro jitbeng,

very well said....don't worry..be happy  biggrin.gif
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Thanks bro reddevil04.

Life is too short for us to be worrying here & there. Enjoy life to the fullest.

Today is what you worried yesterday.

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Added on March 25, 2010, 7:37 pm
QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Mar 25 2010, 04:50 PM)
I'm using Panny PV80H since 2008. My next TV will also be Panny.

So far, I'm a very satisfied customer. Still got 3 years warranty to go.

To date, not a single flaw on my tv.

Astro and bluray looks excellent on my PV80H.
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Good for you bro.

Same here with my PS10K. My next TV will also be a Panny. In fact almost all my household electrical products are Panny.

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post Mar 27 2010, 01:01 AM

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Added on March 27, 2010, 1:09 am
QUOTE(jeffdnp @ Mar 25 2010, 10:53 PM)
just back from sunway pyramid panasonic roadshow... watched the 3D tv... excellent!!! everyone should go and watch it...
and the price for latest X series 42'' plasma is rm2999 plus free gift...
other series is coming soon... there is also D series which is the LED TV, also very nice, but still no price... biggrin.gif
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That means the new 2010 Plasma 42" X series is more expensive than the 2009 model which cost if I am not mistaken around RM2,500.00. X series is only HD Ready.

Expect the new 2010 42" V series which is Full HD to cost more than the 2009 Full HD S series. The 2009 model cost around RM3,000.00.
Bought mine for RM3,050.00.

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Added on March 27, 2010, 1:26 amIn US the 2010 model came out if I am not mistaken late January 2010.

Go here:-
http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electro...000000000005702

Compare the price & specification for the 2009 & 2010. Strangely in the US the 2010 model is cheaper than the 2009 according to the website.

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post Mar 27 2010, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Mar 27 2010, 10:23 AM)
From where you get this price for models 2009?
Don't mix Retail and forumer price.
VIERA TH-P42X10K are still MYR 3,699.00(Retail price)!
http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/pid/7775
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models 2010 should be cheaper 10-15%
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Went to Jaya Jusco One Utama Petaling Jaya 2 days ago & saw VIERA TH-P42S10K Full HD selling at RM3,999.00 with 10% discount. After discount will be RM3,600.00. I think no more stock for this model in retail shops.

TH-P42X10K which is HD Ready should be selling cheaper than the Full HD model. Did not noticed the price for this model because not interested. I think this model still got stock in retail shops & definitely selling below RM3,600.00.

Bought my TH-P42S10K from ESH (Eng Seng Heng), PJ on Christmas day last year for RM3,050.00. The TH-P42X10K is cheaper at around RM2,500.00 but not interested because not Full HD.

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QUOTE(moon* @ Apr 14 2010, 11:54 AM)
bro, i m looking for the older s10k or g10k model too..

can u check with ur supplier if he has any left?? i m kinda interested.

please pm me ya.. thanks smile.gif
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If the 42S10 is around RM2.5K better grab it immediately.

Saw in Jaya Jusco One Utama P.J. about 2 weeks ago selling for RM3,999.00 with 10% discount. At that time got 6 units left.

Bought mine in December last year for RM3,050.00

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Added on April 14, 2010, 12:43 pm
QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 14 2010, 01:05 AM)
Nah ... I have the same concern.

But there are some who says the rising black levels are over-exaggerated and quite acceptable by reasonable standards. Some people may be very sensitive to the phenomenon but there are others who do not notice it except maybe when it is viewed in a low-light environment. Pretty subjective if you asked me. Besides, Panasonic with NeoPDP has the "brightest" plasma panel in town which means that it is acceptable to view them in not-so-dark environments (which I happen to live in).

In regards to the floating blacks, as anfieldude put it, some measure of calibration can effectively minimise the phenomenon.

By all means, if you can afford a dedicated home theatre room in your abode, you should be able to afford the more pricier ones eg KRP-500A or the higher end full-LED-lit ones (Philips 9704?) and skip Panasonic to be safe.

For me, 42" full-hd plasma with reasonable quality (I still like plasma even though I should take the LCD given the bright environment I'm in) at the right price point is the main criterion. Originally gunning for the 42" V series but if that is more than RM5K ie more expensive than 42" D series LED-edge-lit (which I doubt it), then the cheaper U series will also be a main consideration for me.

Anyway, for those owners of S10/G10, anyone care to share if the rising black levels is a valid concern?
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By now my S10K bought in December last year I think have hit the 1,000 hours mark. I have no problem whatsoever with the issue concerned.

I think lot of people are to obsessed with the issue & maybe a lot of them are also perfectionist too.

Just enjoy whatever you have purchased.

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QUOTE(moon* @ Apr 14 2010, 01:39 PM)
scouting real hard for tis models lately.. but no avails.

went to ss2 legend n electronic shops near by; the curve, 1U, harvey norman, all tak ada. sweat.gif

hoping greyshadow can find me one tongue.gif
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Try to go to the Panasonic Malaysia website to get all the shops listed near to your place & call them up one by one. Who knows might stumble into one still selling it.

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Added on April 15, 2010, 12:11 pm
QUOTE(chewkl @ Apr 9 2010, 09:40 AM)
This year what Malaysia will get from Panny is X, A, U, V and VT models for Plasma. No S models.
http://www.pmpressroom.com/products/press%...eng%20final.pdf

Panasonic VIERA TV Line-up for 2010
Plasma TV
Series Type Model Availability
VT Series Full HD 3D TH-P65VT20K August 2010
TH-P50VT20K August 2010
V Series Full HD TH-P50V20K April 2010
TH-P42V20K April 2010
U Series Full HD TH-P50U20K April 2010
A Series High Definition TH-P42A28K April 2010
X Series: High Definition TH-P50X20K April 2010
TH-P46X20K April 2010
TH-P42X20K April 2010
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I noticed only the 2010 V series 42" Plasma is FullHD with NeoPDP Panel, 2 usb ports, 5,000,000:1 contrast, etc... So it is not an entry model? like the 2009 S10K model. And I presume it will be more expensive than the 2009 S10K.

And Panasonic Malaysia is not bringing in the I presume the S20K to replace the 2009 S10K?

In US, the 2009 S1 which is like equivalent to our S10K have already been replaced by the S2 for 2010 & it is cheaper the S1.

Why not petition Panasonic Malaysia to bring in the S20K model which in my opinion will be cheaper then the S10K following the trend in the US.

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Added on April 15, 2010, 12:17 pm
QUOTE(ciput @ Apr 13 2010, 11:00 PM)
haiyo...

got more confius already

shop said got stock...

so which one are better to buy

x10k-x28k-s10k?

all of them given super special price by the shop in melaka..
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In my opinion better buy the S10K which is a FullHD.

If you surf the net using the TV it will be a better choice because the display will be sharper since it is a FullHD like what I am doing.

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Added on April 15, 2010, 12:27 pm
QUOTE(moon* @ Apr 14 2010, 01:24 PM)
both u guys using the s10k??

when watching quick sports; like f1 n football. do u see the motion blur? sweat.gif

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I watch Astro, Bluray, downloaded movies, surf the Net & play Xbox 360.

I don't noticed any motion blur. The only motion blur is when certain game intend it while playing Xbox360.

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Added on April 15, 2010, 1:02 pm
QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 14 2010, 01:05 AM)
Nah ... I have the same concern.

But there are some who says the rising black levels are over-exaggerated and quite acceptable by reasonable standards. Some people may be very sensitive to the phenomenon but there are others who do not notice it except maybe when it is viewed in a low-light environment. Pretty subjective if you asked me. Besides, Panasonic with NeoPDP has the "brightest" plasma panel in town which means that it is acceptable to view them in not-so-dark environments (which I happen to live in).

In regards to the floating blacks, as anfieldude put it, some measure of calibration can effectively minimise the phenomenon.

By all means, if you can afford a dedicated home theatre room in your abode, you should be able to afford the more pricier ones eg KRP-500A or the higher end full-LED-lit ones (Philips 9704?) and skip Panasonic to be safe.

For me, 42" full-hd plasma with reasonable quality (I still like plasma even though I should take the LCD given the bright environment I'm in) at the right price point is the main criterion. Originally gunning for the 42" V series but if that is more than RM5K ie more expensive than 42" D series LED-edge-lit (which I doubt it), then the cheaper U series will also be a main consideration for me.

Anyway, for those owners of S10/G10, anyone care to share if the rising black levels is a valid concern?
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I noticed that what was discussed in the AVS forum regarding the black level issue concerned only the G10/12 model which comes with the NeoPDP panel.

S10K model here comes with the G12 Progressive Panel which is a lower standard than the NeoPDP Panel.

Anyone comes across a forum discussing S series with the G12 Progressive Panel black level issue?

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 15 2010, 08:51 PM)
Perhaps you are right about the problem only affects NeoPDPs. So far CNET Asia (S'pore?) has this on their site:
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That's an encouragement. Thanks for pointing out the CNET Asia site which I missed out.

My S10K have touched 1000 hours mark after watching the TV about 8 hours daily since I bought it in December 2009. Just lazy to go into the service menu to check.

Just checked my TV picture quality in dimmed environment as advised by CNET Asia. Glad to report that the black is as black as ever.

There was this picture of a girl with black hair wearing a black shirt. I just freeze the picture & then compare the black hair & shirt to the black frame of the TV. They are as black as the TV's frame. Honestly!

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 15 2010, 11:07 PM)
You can talk to Tony Endoh.  He is right person to talk to in Malaysia about this matter.  tongue.gif  No other person is more qualify in Malaysia to deal with this issue than him.  Truth me. rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the info.

No problem bro!

I have already bought mine P42S10K last December & I don't mind to start the petition rolling for the benefit of those who are interested in the 2010 P42S10K replacement model.

I feel bad for people still looking for the P42S10K & they are out of stock & now Panasonic is not planning to bring in the 2010 replacement model. Is it because they will be cheaper than the 2009 P42S10K model like in the US.

Please provide his email if you have & I will petition to him.

I read this Panasonic Press Release:-

http://www.pmpressroom.com/products/press%...eng%20final.pdf

I thought of writing to this person below from the Press Release:-

Product Contact: Ho Lip Kee
Manager, Digital Audio Visual
Tel: 03 7809 7686 Mobile: 012 3866788
Email: lipkee.ho@my.panasonic.com

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post Apr 16 2010, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 15 2010, 11:55 PM)
I am just kidding.  tongue.gif  You are not serious are you? By the way, he already replaced by Jeff Lee since last month.  laugh.gif
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I am serious bro. There is no harm in writing a petition. Nothing venture nothing gain. Please give this Jeff Lee email & I will start the ball rolling.

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 16 2010, 12:33 AM)
I also no idea.  laugh.gif  His full name is Jeff Lee Wee Leong.
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Ok noted.

In this case I will to write to this person from the Panasonic Press Release:-

Ho Lip Kee
Manager, Digital Audio Visual
Tel: 03 7809 7686 Mobile: 012 3866788
Email: lipkee.ho@my.panasonic.

and maybe he can refer it to this person:-

Jeff Lee Wee Leong

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Added on April 16, 2010, 12:50 am
QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Apr 16 2010, 12:30 AM)
Based on the press release some new model will be release in April..It's mid April already and you guys have any idea where to look for these new 2010 models ?

I'll be moving to new place soon and new plasma is one of the priority (after the grilles..hehehe)
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I have today spoken to a panashop in Kepong looking for the 42S10K just to find out if there is stock. Shop reported no more stock but the new s2010 mod.els will be coming end of April. Price not given also

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Hi Folks,

I have written to Panasonic Malaysia regarding non mentioning of the S Series in the 25th march 2010 press release. In other words the 2010 S Series will not be launched in Malaysia.

Below is my email to Panasonic Malaysia. I encourage interested folks to write in. Maybe you all can highlight areas I have not mentioned.

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Dear Sir,

Good day to you. I hope I am not troubling you too much as I am sure you are a very busy person. I apologize in advance if I have.

Anyway what I want to mention here is regarding Panasonic Malaysia not bringing in the S Series 2010 replacement model for the 2009 S Series Plasma TH-P42S10K FullHD TV.

I noticed in your 25th March 2010 press release that the only 42” FullHD Plasma TV in the V series is the TH-P42V20K featuring the enhanced VIERA CAST service with Wireless LAN Adaptor ready on its USB port, video call capability2, SD Link to view JPEG digital still images and HD video recorded on an SD Memory Card; VIERA Link, a PC input, two USB Ports, 24p cinematic playback,600Hz Sub-field Drive (produces 1080 TV lines of moving picture resolution), Infinite Black Pro display with 5,000,000:1 native contrast. Because of the enhanced features I am sure the 2010 TH-P42V20K is not an entry model for a FullHD Plasma TV like the 2009 TH-P42S10K. And for sure it will definitely cost more – how much more is left to be seen.

I would like to appeal to Panasonic Malaysia to bring in the 2010 replacement model for the S Series 2009 TH-P42S10K model as what the US has done replacing the S1 with the S2 model. I have read in some forums here that loyal & new customers are scouring high & low for the 2009 TH-P42S10K which I think is completely out of stock and most probably knowing the 2010 V Series will be more expensive with the enhanced features. Now that the 2010 S Series is not mentioned in the 25th March 2010 press release, it is one big disappointment to them.

I am sure Panasonic Malaysia practiced CSR (Corporate Social Responsibility) aggressively, so it will be a nice gesture to entertain the wishes of the loyal & new customers.

In line with the spirit of 1Malaysia People First Performance Now, I sincerely hope Panasonic Malaysia will at least consider our request. In Bahasa Malaysia it will be Satu Malaysia Orang Pertama Prestasi Sekarang - minta tolong menimbangkan permintaan orang ramai.

I understand that Mr. Jeff Lee Wee Leong is the person in charge but since I am unable to get his email I hope you will kindly forward to him. I got your email from the press release.

A reply will be very much appreciated.

Thank You Very Much & a good weekend to you.

Thanks

A loyal Panasonic Customer since 1970's.

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In the email I mentioned my full name & hand phone number.

The person I email to is Mr. Ho Lip Kee, Manager, Digital Audio Visual, Tel: 03 7809 7686 Mobile: 012 3866788
Email: lipkee.ho@my.panasonic.com

I got the info above from the press release.

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Apr 16 2010, 07:24 PM)
@jitbeng,  many thanks for the initiative. Good petition email.  rclxms.gif

@thena123, I understand that Panasonic has a class action against it in the US on the rising black issue. No more public statements on the issue until the case is over.
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Thanks for the compliment.

Hopefully to get a reply from Panasonic Malaysia. If & that will be a big "if" I get a reply, I will try to post it here.

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Added on April 17, 2010, 4:14 pm
QUOTE(thena123 @ Apr 17 2010, 08:06 AM)
whatever said, most likely and unfortunately I will buy Panasonic as it is cheap. Where nowadays can get 42 inch for RM2099 (now 2299)?

Just use few years then throw in bin lah.
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I normally don't buy things that last a life time.
Unless it is a very expensive thing like Rolex automatics? etc.

Other than that TVs, AVRs etc etc even cars, just buy as can afford, use them to max & than just resell/discard them.

Some cheap things can really give you good service & in a few years time, just throw/recycle them away

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QUOTE(ciput @ Apr 20 2010, 11:48 AM)
im holding on to buy either x10k,x28k and the fhd s10k.

with no news for s10k replacement, it personally think there will be no cheaper than rm3k for fhd plasma.

so final decision, should i take the brand new x28k, the better but older x10k or the older fhd s10k?
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The older 2009 FHD S10K no more stock now. Don't know whether Panasonic will bring the replacement 2010 S20K. Read my email petition on this thread Post No: 265 & also email yours if you like regarding this issue. In US the S1 2009 has been replaced by the 2010 S2 & the S2 is cheaper. It should be cheaper if Panasonic bring in the S20K. But instead Panasonic is bringing in the V series with enhanced features & will definitely cost more.

If you don't need FHD then suggest to buy the new X series. It is a lot cheaper.

For myself difinitely go for FHD. If fact I have already bought the S10K last year.

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Added on April 20, 2010, 1:50 pm
QUOTE(moon* @ Apr 20 2010, 10:41 AM)
^ OH??? NEXT COLUMN?? CHEH!!!

lul my mistake laugh.gif

i highlighted the PTCT sweat.gif

hehe thanks.

OH AND BTW GUYS READ THIS!!!!; if u guys plan to visit the Harvey Norman (MV); jst a heads up b4 u guys buy the 42G10K display unit.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Better don't buy the display unit. Price difference of about only RM600 against the new one.

Why not wait for the V series coming end of this month. More enhanced features & should be cheaper.

In US there is a raging discussion on the black level issue for the G10 model.

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QUOTE(rolandhoo @ Apr 20 2010, 02:37 PM)
2010 new model U series is an entry level FHD. Guess it's only available for 46" and 50" size (correct me if i'm wrong). price should be cheaper than V series.

anyone know when it will be available and its price?
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U series only 50" FHD.

V series 42" & 50" FHD

I think U series 50" FHD will be cheaper than the V series 50" FHD.

Check here for availability http://www.pmpressroom.com/products/press%...eng%20final.pdf

Price should be at the same time.

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QUOTE(yarusaru @ Apr 20 2010, 09:58 PM)
so for normal astro which one wins??
plasma vs fhd
thinking of getting plasma x28k
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For Astro HDTV is good enough. If I am not mistaken Astro B'yond highest signal now is 720p (correct me if I am wrong).

But if you want to watch Blu-ray at 1080p, then get the FHD TV.

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OK here's my humble take:-

FullHD & HD Ready

a) The price difference between the FullHD & HD Ready is not so much. Not like more than RM1K but around RM500-600.

b) When you play BR disc the PQ will be fantastic. As one Forumer reported "eye-popping". BR disc is getting cheaper following the DVD trend.

c) If you surf the Net with the TV like I do then you will see clearly the difference. And you will regret buying a HD Ready.

d) If solely for Astro then no difference. But then if you so happen to pop in a BR you will not get the "eye-popping" PQ.

e) The bigger the TV size the higher the resolution for it to display a sharp picture.

The price of the HDTV will go down in tandem with the HD Ready. If fall to RM2K in a few years time, the HD Ready will also fall to below RM2K. And people will be tempted to buy the HD Ready.

What I do with my FullHDTV:-

Astro:Net Surfing:Xbox 360:Movies DVD/Downloaded:BR = 50%:30%:10%:5%:5%

What I heard :-

TH-P50U20K will be the replacement model for TH-P50S10K & will cost around RM5-5.5K.

TH-P42V20K will cost around RM5K & this is not a replacement model for the TH-P42S10K. There will not be a replacement model for the TH-P42S10K for this year. These models will come out end of next month.

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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Apr 21 2010, 08:21 PM)
I also waited for Pana 2010 model until I saw the 50U20k during recent fair, the dark scene is not dark enough.  Not to discredit Pana, but Samsung is better for similar price range.  In off mode, you can see the display is milky black.  However, the price is attractive, fair price RM4.9k for 50" TV and FHD.
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In off mode my Plasma Panasonic is not milky black but a bit greenish.

When on mode, I froze a scene whereby the girl's black hair & shirt were as black as the frame of my TV.

When viewing dark scene, the scene is as dark as it can be.

I am 110% satisfied with my TV.

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From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(gocitygo @ Apr 22 2010, 06:52 AM)
@ HOMEDEC fair @ PISA Penang. 

Seems like U series is lower than S series.  Not sure why Pana didn't bring new S series into Bolehland, perhaps price point is the strategy.
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A little bird told me that the P50U20K is the replacement for the P50S10K. Features almost the same.

There will not be a replacement model for the S series.

The V series is higher than the U series because of the enhanced features.

Read here:- http://www.pmpressroom.com/products/press%...eng%20final.pdf

Thanks


Added on April 22, 2010, 6:50 pm
QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Apr 22 2010, 10:05 AM)
huh? Can we apply that same brilliant reasoning for the following analogy....

A girl says she is scared of going down that lonely lane cause she has heard there were lots of rape cases in that lane. You going to say, "cross the bridge when you come to it,"
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Off course the girl will not cross the bridge lah!

I think what "reddevil04" meant was why worry over a thing that might or might not happen. Only when it does happened then cross the bridge to find the solution.

Today is what you worry over yesterday.

Thanks




This post has been edited by jitbeng: Apr 22 2010, 06:50 PM

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