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post Jul 4 2008, 02:13 AM, updated 11y ago

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CS: The "Star Trek" movie you guys have been working on has been fairly low-key and kept very quiet. Are you guys going to try to bust something out at Comic-Con for that?
Kurtzman: We are trying to get our act together here in the last moments. We're so focused on editing the movie that we've forgotten about promoting it. We're not sure what we're going to release it with. We're trying to figure it out.

Orci and Kurtzman's next project Eagle Eye will be released on September 26 and they have Star Trek and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen next summer, but we'll probably hear more about some of those other projects discussed in the next few months.

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Plot Summary: From director J.J. Abrams ("Mission: Impossible III," "Lost" and "Alias") and screenwriters Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman ("Transformers," "MI: III") comes a new vision of the greatest space adventure of all time, "Star Trek," featuring a young, new crew venturing boldly where no man has gone before.

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Starring: John Cho, Ben Cross, Bruce Greenwood, Simon Pegg, Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Winona Ryder, Zoe Saldana, Karl Urban, Anton Yelchin, Eric Bana, Leonard Nimoy, Marlene Forte, Jimmy Bennett


Did I read the actors/actresses name correct?
John Cho (Harold & Kumar)?
Eric Bana (Hulk)?
Winona Ryder?
Leonard Nimoy?

Those are like big names! thumbup.gif

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err... the line up have been announced for about 2-3 months now. u just got wind ah? yes, those actors are correct. but why is leonard nimoy such a surprise? he IS star trek biggrin.gif.

if u're not fully aware:

zachary quinto - sylar in heroes
simon pegg - shaun in shaun of the dead
karl urban - eomer in lord of the rings

and so on. yes, this is a star studded production biggrin.gif
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post Jul 4 2008, 06:42 AM

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Yup, I'm not really a Star Trek fan, never really follow them tongue.gif
Just saw the cast list when I read the latest update today biggrin.gif

To me on Leonard Nimoy, he was from back in the days of Captain Kirk.
So kinda surprised that he's back again.
And yes, as I said, I don't even know the storylines of the last ST movie, he could've been in there too, my bad tongue.gif
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I think they'll cast Leonard Nimoy as a Vulcan again
most probably a Vulcan Elder, father of Spock, maybe? hmm.gif

and Zachary Quinto as young Spock rclxms.gif
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Sauce: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/startreknews.php?id=46917

J.J. Abrams Talks Star Trek

For the past several months getting any information out of the always enthusiastically secretive J.J. Abrams camp about his re-launch of the classic Star Trek series for the big screen has been about as easy as getting light out of a black hole.

But when ComingSoon.net cornered Abrams at a big Hollywood event this week, we were surprised that he seemed finally ready to reveal a few tiny, tantalizing hints about his version of the final frontier, as well as his feeling about the franchise and his film's old school standard bearer – and we didn't even have to pull a phaser on him.

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CS: You've said that you didn't start out as an uber-fan of "Star Trek," but you quickly became a fan. Can you talk in general terms about what you fell in love with about the whole franchise?
Abrams: I fell in love with the relationships between the characters. I fell in love with the characters. The idea of – it's so funny because you hear something so often and it loses it's meaning. But "space, the final frontier" – if you actually consider space as uncharted territory there's something about the idea of these people, because any ship flying by isn't going to get you excited. It's who's on the ship that matters. I feel like these characters actually going out into that nothingness and finding something is great. Having lived with it now and gotten to know the characters and worked with amazing actors who portrayed them, it made me fall in love with that notion, that idea that for some reason never struck me the way that "Twilight Zone" did.

CS: Are you ready to talk about the Jennifer Morrison character? There's been a lot of speculation and confusion as to exactly who she's playing.
Abrams: She is so great. I'll just say that she plays Kirk's mother. She's awesome. Great.

CS: Does the film feature many flashback sequences? We also know that Winona Ryder is playing Spock's mother.
Abrams: Yeah, most of the movie is not - I wouldn't call them flashbacks, but she's in a great sequence and is so good. I love her.

CS: What can you say about about working with Leonard Nimoy?
Abrams: It was really just a dream experience, working with him. He is everything you want him to be. He's funny and incredibly thoughtful and was surprisingly open and receptive to direction. He's just got an amazing wife and family and working with him was literally... Like the other day we were doing some ADR and he was there and because we weren't shooting anymore I was standing there and I just looked at him while he was doing his thing. I wanted to burn it into my head. It was so great to get to work with that guy. He's just an amazing man and is terrific in the movie.

CS: Is he a major presence in the film?
Abrams: Yeah. I think he's a major presence in any scene he's in. He's terrific.


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post Jul 19 2008, 07:30 PM

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New Poster!
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New Teaser!


Damn man... I have never been pumped up to a Star Trek movie OR series before..

... but since this is showing the STARTING of Enterprise and how man first go to space, I srsly pump up for it! thumbup.gif
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Updated young characters revealed! biggrin.gif
Having new young faces for this prequel will definitely attract the younger generations of the old favorites happy.gif

The four new Star Trek posters feature (clockwise from upper right below): John Cho (Sulu), Simon Pegg (Scotty), Anton Yelchin (Chekov), and Karl Urban (McCoy):

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post Aug 11 2008, 03:39 PM

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Does anyone think that this will be a more serious movie than the previous Star Trek instalments?
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Updated young characters revealed! biggrin.gif
Having new young faces for this prequel will definitely attract the younger generations of the old favorites happy.gif

The four new Star Trek posters feature (clockwise from upper right below): John Cho (Sulu), Simon Pegg (Scotty), Anton Yelchin (Chekov), and Karl Urban (McCoy):

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anton yelchin?? didn't see that guy cool2.gif . the new young kyle reese drool.gif

lol, i thought, there many fans of ST on this forum, why this threads began so late?? cry.gif

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where's the poster of Cap. James T Kirk?
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I can't wait for the movie rclxm9.gif

An insight info: from reading the recent interview (from both Spocks), time travel is confirmed to be in this movie biggrin.gif
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Why is William Shatner Not in Star Trek?

AMC's SciFi Scanner talked to Star Trek director J.J. Abrams, who explained why you won't see William Shatner reprising the role of Captain James T. Kirk:

Q: How do you react to William Shatner's ire at not having a role in the movie?

A: It was very tricky. We actually had written a scene with him in it that was a flashback kind of thing, but the truth is, it didn't quite feel right. The bigger thing was that he was very vocal that he didn't want to do a cameo. We tried desperately to put him in the movie, but he was making it very clear that he wanted the movie to focus on him significantly, which, frankly, he deserves. The truth is, the story that we were telling required a certain adherence to the Trek canon and consistency of storytelling. It's funny -- a lot of the people who were proclaiming that he must be in this movie were the same people saying it must adhere to canon. Well, his character died on screen. Maybe a smarter group of filmmakers could have figured out how to resolve that.

Paramount Pictures will release Star Trek on May 8, 2009

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i seriously can't wait for this movie.
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Star Trek Trailer To Be Dropped on Bond

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Trekkies have been holding their breath in anticipation for Paramount to announce which fall movie they will drop the first Trek trailer on. TrekMovie is reporting that the new Bond movie, Quantum of Solace, will be the lucky bearer of the preview. They also claim that “Our current poll states that 45% of Trek fans will see ‘any movie’ or ‘almost any movie’ just to catch a glimpse of the trailer. Many Trek fans went to see Cloverfield in its record-breaking opening weekend, just to be the first to see the Star Trek teaser trailer.” That is quite a statistic. Almost every guy I know is into Star Trek. Which means, almost every guy I know will go see the new Bond movie, to see the preview for the Star Trek movie. Is it me, or is this all sounding super geeky?

The Star Trek movie will chronicle the early careers of the Enterprise crew. It’s an origin story about Kirk, Scotty, Spock and company. With Transformers and MI III scribes, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman writing the script, it sounds like its going to be huge. Paramount is hoping it will be, at least.

The European press tour will kick off after the trailer has gone public. Because Star Trek hasn’t done as well across the pond, Paramount wants to get the buzz lit over there. Abrams and executive producer Bryan Burk will show clips to European journalists to spark the planned media frenzy.



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Abrams Plans To Boldly Go Fast

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It’s getting to the point where you need to clear a good four hours off your schedule to see a major movie. Nobody can tell a good story in under two and a half hours and combined with the trailers, the drive time, and the need to get there a bit early, we are spending longer at the theater than we do watching the Oscars, which is pretty scary.

One filmmaker who is sick of the longer and longer run times is J.J. Abrams. He’s making a stand with Star Trek. It’s going to be two damn hours and not a second longer. Well, maybe a second longer, but not much more than that. As he tells the MTV Movie Blog, “I’m sick of these two hours and forty-five minute movies. Seriously, it’s like I don’t have enough time to stay two hours and forty-five minutes. I’m exhausted just saying that twice. I can’t stand it.” So, he’s going to buck the trend of movies that seem to be getting longer and longer for no real reason.

I’m a firm believer that many movies would be improved with tighter editing. Something like The Dark Knight works at a longer running time and I remember watching L.A. Confidential and wishing it was twice as long, but they are the exceptions. Other directors need to keep one eye on the clock and it’s good to hear Abrams will be a vanguard in that brigade.



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Abrams talks Trek time

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If you were expecting JJ Abrams' STAR TREK to be an endlessly epic experience, make plans for after the flick.

The director believes you actually can get too much of a good thing -- he fully intended to keep the film contained around the two-hour mark. “I’m sick of these two hours and forty-five minute movies," he tells MTV (obviously referring to lengthy summer fare like THE DARK KNIGHT). "Seriously, it’s like I don’t have enough time to stay two hours and forty-five minutes. I’m exhausted just saying that twice. I can’t stand it.”

It seems ironic that the guy who stretched convoluted subplots and obfuscation across several seasons of TV's "ALIAS" (not to mention his complicity in the frustrations of "LOST") is someone without significant patience for entertainment, or maybe he just learned something about brevity from working on the hit-em-and-run horror flick CLOVERFIELD.

Extra Tidbit: Abrams discusses the furor about the (non) participation of Shatner right here, which could conceivably be yet more misdirection.



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I'm not a fan but from the looks of it, I guess this movie is gonna be really good.
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Star Trek Side By Side Photo Comparisons
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More Star Trek Exclusives, Fan Sites In Revolt

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Paramount has now accomplished two very distinct things with the release of this increasingly large batch of photos from Star Trek. First, the images are great and they have everyone excited about the movie. That’s a good thing and if the new trailer which is supposed to debut with Quantum of Solace looks half as good as these stills, then they may really get some serious buzz going for this film. Second… they’ve managed to piss off just about the entire Star Trek fan site community.

Here’s the thing: Paramount has released all of these photos as “exclusives” to specially chosen, high-profile websites, most of them backed by big corporations who really have nothing to do with Star Trek. Mere hours ago they did it again with two more photos, included with this post, and released in high-res exclusively to Yahoo and Omelete. Meanwhile in the background, they’ve launched a “Star Trek Webmaster Program” and invited 600 webmasters from movie sites and Star Trek fan sites around the web to join, with the promise that the group will give them all first crack at material for the film whenever it becomes available. The group has been in existence since January of this year, and it has yet to deliver any content of any kind. Instead, what Paramount’s Star Trek Webmasters have been given, is a series of messages with links to Paramount’s corporate partners and their exclusives, directing the webmasters whom they had courted with promises of content… to send all of their readers to other websites which Paramount likes better.

Doling out content in the form of exclusives in exchange for well, whatever mysterious payola big studios gets out of it, is of course a fairly common practice on any high-profile film. And I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with the sites they’ve released these exclusives to. JoBlo.com for instance was one of them, and they’re a site I personally hold in extremely high esteem. They, and most of the others involved aren’t exactly known as hardcore Trekkies though. TrekMovie.com was also in the bunch given exclusives, a very well run Trek site… yet a Trek site which has only existed since the production on this particular film started, not one of the hundreds of Trek sites which have literally been the backbone of the internet since the web’s early 90s inception; sites which back in January Paramount invited to work with them, and have since gone out of their way to ignore.

For those 600 Star Trek fan webmasters involved in Paramount’s Webmaster Program, it was only somewhat disappointing when Paramount released the teaser trailer to everyone before them, and mildly annoying when Paramount leaked all of the movie’s first posters elsewhere. But last night the private forum inside the Webmaster Program erupted with polite yet perturbed anger, as Paramount continued to ignore them by releasing photo after photo exclusively to other sites. When community members politely asked why they were being ignored, Paramount’s representatives responded with the equivalent of “take a hike.”

This morning, when those same fan webmasters didn’t take kindly to being yet again given the brush off, Paramount simply silenced them by completely deleting the private message board which had been part of the Webmaster Program, ending what had been a fairly polite but concerned discussion of the matter. In doing so, the studio has made something loud and clear here, and it’s something which I’ve been saying for nearly a year now. Star Trek fans: Paramount doesn’t care if you’re involved or not. They want new fans. You’re old, you’re used up. This is a new Star Trek for a new group of fans, hopefully pretty ones who don’t live in their parents’ basements. You can buy a ticket to see it if you want, just make sure you bring a teenager with you and wear a bag over your head.

There’s another way to handle this, a way to bring in new fans while holding on to the old ones. It’s simple. Don’t release images exclusively to IGN, AICN, or even Cinema Blend. Paramount, you’ve started a webmaster program. Use it. Release these Star Trek marketing materials simultaneously to everyone from now on. No, handing them out to the fan community three days later doesn’t count. Everyone, all at once. What’s the worst that could happen? Even more exposure for your film by having the images displayed across a broader range of sites? Or do you think UGO and Yahoo will refuse to cover the movie unless you give them special treatment? Unlikely. Don’t worry, the cool kids will never know you’ve let the nerds have them. It’s not like the Fast and the Furious crowd is going to visit TrekWeb and find out. You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain, unless you’re really and truly out to cut the Trek community off. If so, I’ll be the Trekkie in the back row with pointed ears drawn on the bag over my head.




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Add More Star Trek Images To The Pile

Another day, another batch of images from Star Trek. Remember when we were actually wondering what this movie would look like, rather than getting hit with new photos from all sides? Entertainment Weekly, which features Kirk and Spock on its cover this week, has a handful of new images along with the ones we've seen so far, all packaged in a nice gallery. It'll give you a new chance to examine Spock's Vulcan ears and try to find Eric Bana underneath all that Nero makeup.

I'm too much of a Star Trek neophyte to do much parsing of these images, so I'll leave it to you guys to do the analysis from here. Check out a few of the images below, and go to EW's gallery for the full display.

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Behold, the "new" NCC-1701 U.S.S. Enterprise:
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I just absolutely love the idea of rebooting the Star Trek series. They literally 'start' their very first voyage in the movie. That is just so damn awesome. Coz the TV show, there is absolutely 'no starting point' as to how it all began... unless someone out there has Star Trek S01E01 (actual pilot / start of plot).


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Star Trek Takes Over Empire

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Paramount is handing out more exclusive Star Trek images. That usually means the rest of the internet will get them two or three weeks from now when it no longer matters. Well dammit Jim, I think it matters. This is Star Trek after all, and no matter how long the wait Star Trek matters… to nerds like me anyway. But we’re not going to make you wait till Paramount finally lets us run them. While we wait, you can go check out the brand new Trek pics over at Empire.

I’ve posted a couple of smallish, sample versions of the images below but it’s worth clicking over to Empire for the real deal. The images will be in their latest print issue as well, which will bear a Star Trek themed cover in which Zachary Quinto and Chris Pine do their best to recreate a classic Nimoy/Shatner promotional pose.

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The official trailer is out now, but maybe due to heavy traffic, the trailer is taking a long time to load at the official site... sad.gif

Ah, my mistake, the trailer is still not out on the official site yet, it's just the teaser trailer... doh.gif

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Trek trailer talk

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So word on the cyber street is that the new trailer for the J.J. Abrams directed reboot prequel, STAR TREK, will premiere with the upcoming James Bond adventure QUANTUM OF SOLACE but if you'd like to get a taste of it beforehand, a couple of scoopers over at AICN recently wrote in to describe the trailer. And it sounds like this thing's gonna rock balls, especially since they mention this: "We also see a woman in silhouette (Uhura?) pulling off her top…" Hells yeah. Here's a snippet from the more detailed description:

The trailer starts by showing a mid-60's Corvette convertible tearing across the country side. After a few seconds we see a long shot that shows a policeman in hot pursuit. Another long shot shows the Vette screaming at full speed toward a steep cliff. A slo-mo shot shows the driver leaping from the car at the last second and tumbling ass over teakettle toward the edge of the cliff itself. The driver is a young boy who looks about 13 or 14. He manages to grab a hold at the last second and hang on as a birds eye shot show the antique Vette fall away into an abyss.

We see the boy get up and dust himself off and the camera cuts away to show a troopers boot come down close-up. The black leather boot is obviously the policeman's who was chasing the car but it looks suspiciously "different." Just different enough to let the audience know this isn't a normal policeman. The shot then cuts to where we can see the policeman standing in front of the boy with his "bike" hovering in mid air a few feet beside him. He shouts at the boy, "Who are you?" or "What's your name?" and the boy shouts back defiantly, "James Tiberius Kirk!"

Read the rest of it over HERE. The Enterprise flies again (or is it for the first time?) on May 8th.

Extra Tidbit: If we might get some Uhura boobs, can we also get Rachel Nichols and Diora Baird boobs? (Especially considering Baird is playing a character called "Orion Slave Girl") Please?


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Star Trek Gets 2 Theatrical Posters

Paramount has finally delivered, releasing something for their new Star Trek movie which isn’t an exclusive to an indifferent corporate partner. They’ve just sent out the first 2 theatrical teaser posters for the film. Say hello to black and white Kirk and Spock 2.0.

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Star Trek's Redesigned Enterprise Revealed!

We’ve seen the crew and now Paramount is showing off the ship. EW has your first ever look at the brand new, redesigned starship Enterprise, NCC-1701, as she’ll appear in J.J. Abrams’ upcoming reboot.

The changes are more drastic than I expected. That said, it’s still instantly recognizable as the Enterprise. They’ve kept everything that has made Star Trek’s flagship the coolest thing floating around in the stars, while at the same time giving her an updated look, one which incorporates some pieces of design features seen in other Trek ships. As many expected she would, this version of the Enterprise actually bears more of a resemblance to the refitted version which appeared in the first three Star Trek movies, than it does in the pre-refit version which appeared in the television show. What matters here though is that it’s still here. It’s the Enterprise. They haven’t painted her pink and given her rollerskates. She’s still the most beautiful thing in space.

Compare the new design to the other two previous variations of the NCC-1701 (no bloody A, B, C, or D) Enterprise below:

Enterprise In The 2009 Movie

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Enterprise As Seen In The Original TV Series

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Star Trek Trailer Not In Front Of Quantum

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Reports are already coming in from those who attended midnight showings of Quantum of Solace and saw the new Star Trek trailer in front of it… and from those who did not. Word was that the brand new, full length Star Trek trailer would be attached to the latest Bond movie, but it seems that’s not necessarily the case.

This is particularly important since Paramount has refused to release the trailer online. They’re holding it gripped tight in their fists until Monday, which means plenty of people are out there heading to see the latest Bond movie in part or in full because they can’t wait to see the trailer. But we’ve received multiple reports from various readers which indicate that the trailer may or may not be there. Many theater owners are mixing and matching which trailers they shove in front of Quantum.

You’ve been warned. If you’re headed out in hopes of catching the new Star Trek trailer, call ahead to make sure it’s showing. Or just forget the whole thing and wait till Monday. Is it just me, or has the promotion for this film so far involved an inordinate amount of waiting?

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does any1 feel tat the cast of the new star trek is rather young?

feels like teenage version of star trek hehe
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Tsk tsk tsk (shakes head)... the 2009 Enterprise is dripping with beauty... biggrin.gif

The boosters looks so damn sweet...

Can't even imagine how good it will look with all the CG and effects.

This is definitely getting on my "Must Watch 2009 Movies" list. My fren J J Abrams has done it again...

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Tsk tsk tsk (shakes head)... the 2009 Enterprise is dripping with beauty...  biggrin.gif

The boosters looks so damn sweet...

Can't even imagine how good it will look with all the CG and effects.

This is definitely getting on my "Must Watch 2009 Movies" list. My fren J J Abrams has done it again...
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Those are not called boosters, it's called "nacelles"... A nacelle is an outboard engine housing structure on a spacecraft.
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As expected, someone in the USA went and filmed the new trailer using a handycam in a cinema showing Quantum of Solace...

But this particular recording is not complete as it only shows 1:30 of the trailer... I think there's about 15 to 20 secs more...



Found a complete version of the same new trailer...



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Star Trek XI - Trailer - HD version

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Just downloaded the 720p version of the trailer on Quicktime.com, downloading the 1080p version now... smile.gif
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2 New Star Trek Character Posters

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They’ve kept us waiting and in the dark for more than a year now, but six months before the movie’s release Paramount Pictures seems intent on making it all up to us. They’re blowing out even more great material from Star Trek, and plastering the world with all the advertisements and trailers they can muster. I’m pretty sure I even saw a banner ad on this site earlier. It’s going to be a Star Trek filled six months.

The latest is a pair of new character posters, which they released to us this afternoon. They’re in the same style of the Kirk and Spock posters from a few days ago (if you haven’t seen those click here), only this time it’s Uhura and Nero getting the one sheet treatment. See them below and click each poster for a larger version:

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Oh I like the trailer, but I will be avoiding any trekies in the theater coming May.
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Shatner Watch: What About The New Enterprise?

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Some classic Star Trek fans are taking delight in a little battle that’s been going on between William Shatner and… well, frankly just Shatner and Trekdom. See, Shatner wasn’t asked to be a part of the new movie (or was asked and wasn’t available, or was asked and it didn’t work - frankly, I’ve lost track of what the official story is by now) and so he’s been a bit bitter about there being a new movie.

One can hardly blame Shatner’s frustration. Until now he’s been the sole actor behind James T. Kirk, a character so iconic even non-Trekkies can identify him on sight. Now Shatner is going to have to share the stage that is Kirk with another actor. I’m fairly certain any of us would feel the same in a similar situation.

The latest video diary from Shatner gives his reaction to the first released image of the new Enterprise. Keep in mind, technically, this is the old Enterprise - just a new depiction of it. In fact, J.J. Abrams has remained pretty faithful to the original design, which doesn’t give Shatner much to talk about at all. In fact, he’s pretty subdued here, just talking about the ship-shape and how supportive he is of the new Trek movie, regardless of what you might have heard otherwise.

Take a look at Shatner’s response and wonder how much alcohol he’s imbibing between takes on Boston Legal, which it looks like must be when this was recorded.




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Star Trek In IMAX

It’s no longer really news when a big Hollywood blockbuster is converted into the IMAX format. It is quickly becoming the standard for any spendy flick with potentially impressive videos. IMAX is not worth the effort for a bland looking project like Twilight or Beverly Hills Chihuahua, no matter how much money they’ve made, for Star Trek IMAX release should be regarded as an obvious move for Paramount Pictures.

And indeed that’s exactly what Paramount is doing, at least according to First Showing. It’s unclear where exactly FS obtained this information, but since it’s kind of a no brainer there’s no reason to doubt them. This would be bigger news had the movie actually been shot in the IMAX format, as were select scenes in The Dark Knight, but unfortunately we’ll have to settle for an inferior, after the fact conversion.

Yet even for movies which weren’t actually shot in the format, IMAX is still unquestionably the best way to watch any feature film. I imagine that’s going to be doubly true of Star Trek with its hopefully sweeping, breathtaking, wide screen outer space visuals. Perhaps even more important than IMAX’s massive screen is the standard IMAX theater sound which is, far and above, totally superior to anything you’ll get anywhere else. Star Trek’s epic, orchestral scores belong booming around inside an IMAX theater.

To me, it's shocking that there are actually people out there who still haven't been won over by the IMAX format. Presumably these are people who live in an area where there simply isn't a theater, or who have stubbornly refused to visit one. This isn't exactly a new innovation. You and I know better. Be in the IMAX seat next to me for Star Trek on May 8th of next year.

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One brief note. Unless the schedule changes, Night at the Museum 2 opens two weeks after Star Trek and will also be in IMAX. Most, if not all IMAX theaters have only a single screen which means that theater owners will have to choose one or the other. Odds are they’ll all go with the newer film, or perhaps split time between the two movies once Night at the Museum opens, relegating the out longer Trek to those odd, off-time showings no one wants to go to. It can't be easy to swap out different films onto an IMAX projector. That means that if you’re hot to see Star Trek in IMAX, don’t wait around. Get it done on week one.



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If you’re a Trekkie, then after watching the new Star Trek trailer there was only one question on your mind: Where’s Leonard Nimoy? JJ Abrams’ has long touted Trek’s original Vulcan as a central part of his Trek re-envisioning, yet he was left out of the trailers, perhaps as a way of courting those new fans Paramount seems to so desperately crave.

You won’t see Leonard in the theatrical trailer, but Paramount has solved the case of the missing Spock with a new, internet only version of the Star Trek trailer. It’s the same trailer you’ve seen already, with one slight addition at the end. Watch the alternate version of the trailer in high-def over at AICN or watch it below, and wait till the end for Nimoy’s return to wearing pointed ears:



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Maybe it’s a way of keeping the new Enterprise partially under wraps, or maybe the Enterprise doesn’t show up until the end of the movie. Whatever the reason, Star Trek’s iconic starship has taken a back seat while a new spacefaring vessel, the USS Kelvin is taking front and center in Star Trek’s current marketing materials. Luckily, it’s a pretty sharp looking little ship.

There’s been no shortage of wallpapers, pictures, and video showing off the Kelvin but now for the first time you can walk right up on the internet and give a closer examination to Starfleet’s newest ship. Intel’s Star Trek promo site here is dedicated almost entirely to the USS Kelvin. They’ve just added a new feature which lets you take a sort of virtual tour around the outside of the ship. Spin it, rotate it, flip it, zoom in on certain areas for a closer look.

Below I’ve dropped a couple of their close-up photos from various parts of the ship. Click over to Intel’s Boldly Go site and select “USS Kelvin” from the nav menu for more.

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any trailer avaible yet ?
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any trailer avaible yet ?
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Majel Barrett-Roddenberry will reprise her role as the voice of the starship Enterprise computer in J.J. Abrams' upcoming "Star Trek" feature. She's voiced the role in four "Star Trek" TV series and three films.

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J.J. Abrams' Star Trek Coming to IMAX

Paramount Pictures and IMAX Corporation today announced that Star Trek, directed by J.J. Abrams (Mission: Impossible III, "Lost" and "Alias"), will be simultaneously released to both IMAX® and conventional theatres worldwide on May 8, 2009. http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=15645
, which chronicles the early days of James T. Kirk and his fellow USS Enterprise crew members, will be digitally re-mastered into the unparalleled image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience® with proprietary IMAX DMR® (Digital Re-mastering) technology. Paramount Pictures will be the exclusive distributor of the film to IMAX theatres worldwide.

"We're excited to share the enhanced IMAX version of this film with the millions of dedicated fans who have been anticipating this release since production began," said Rob Moore, Vice Chairman, Paramount Pictures. "The IMAX Experience adds that extra level of excitement to an already action-packed film, giving moviegoers a premium 'event' at the multiplex."

Added J.J. Abrams, "I'm thrilled that audiences will be able to experience this new, epic world of 'Star Trek' - with an incredible cast and mind-blowing visual effects - on what is, obviously, the most remarkable film format in the world."

"'Star Trek' combines top Hollywood story-telling talent with space exploration, and each is very conducive to The IMAX Experience," said IMAX Co-Chairmen and Co-CEOs Richard L. Gelfond and Bradley J. Wechsler. "Expanding our relationship with Paramount Pictures to include this film strengthens our 2009 slate, and with the continuing rollout of digital IMAX theatre systems, we will be able to offer the fan-base more locations to experience the epic first journey of the USS Enterprise in the most immersive way."

"Both 'Star Trek' and IMAX have taken audiences to far away places they would normally not be able to go, and in this case, it's space - the final frontier," added Greg Foster, Chairman and President of IMAX Filmed Entertainment. "J.J. Abrams has created a powerful movie that has fans worldwide feverishly anticipating its release. We are thrilled to partner with Paramount Pictures to bring J.J.'s exciting vision of this incredible space adventure to IMAX screens."


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We’ve been all over J.J. Abrams’ upcoming “Star Trek,” including an exclusive photo of Kirk and the first look at the Enterprise bridge, and now we’ve got something else special…the premiere of the film’s banner.

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'Star Trek' Director J.J. Abrams Says Film Has Plenty For Fans And Newcomers To EnjoyFilmmaker insists that Leonard Nimoy's role in the reboot is more than just a cameo.

Tasked to breathe new life into the waning "Star Trek" mega-franchise, J.J. Abrams is a man on a mission. And unlike Captain Kirk, Abrams doesn't have five years to do it ... his film opens in less than five months.

So how does the "Lost" creator assemble a sprawling sci-fi epic that's accessible to mainstream audiences, while also navigating the dangerous waters of a rabid existing fanbase? According to him, you do it by looking to the past, namely the academy days of a younger and equally rebellious James Tiberius Kirk (played by relative newcomer Chris Pine) and his pre-Enterprise crew.

With editing on the film now complete, Abrams chatted with MTV News to dish out the latest on his budding blockbuster, where it's boldly going and how a onetime outsider like him wound up falling in love with seven strangers from outer space.

MTV: Where do you currently stand in the process?

Abrams: We're all done with the [final] cut. We're finishing the mix next week.

MTV: Have scenes been left on the cutting-room floor?

Abrams: Oh, sure. You make a movie, and I think you always find yourself losing things here and there, embellishing things. It's sort of par for the course. They'll probably end up as deleted scenes on the DVD.

MTV: Having been fortunate enough to view a few scenes recently, do you think fans will be surprised by the amount of humor in the film? [Editor's note: In one sequence, an allergic reaction to medication results in massive swelling of Kirk's hands and face ... think "Nutty Professor."]

Abrams: It's funny, because when you see a quarter of something or less, it's easy to draw conclusions about what the whole thing is. The thing with the hands is probably the most extreme sort of borderline-silly thing that happens in the movie. But the humor in the movie is constant within the wit of the characters. And I think when you look at the original "Star Trek" show, there was actually a great deal of humor.

MTV: I couldn't help but notice the Slusho! reference from "Cloverfield" in the bar scene where Kirk first meets Uhura. Will we see other J.J.-isms peppered throughout the film?

Abrams: No. That was sort of the only one, and it was just sort of a goof.

MTV: Having Leonard Nimoy back as Spock and Majel-Barrett Roddenberry return as the ship's computer are both major bridges between the "old" universe and your new one. Are there others we should look for?

Abrams: I think what you'll see is there are — both story-wise and performance-wise, visually and aurally — many connections to what is familiar and what has come before. Which for the new fans of "Star Trek," the newcomers to the world, will be irrelevant. But for those people who are fans and who hope for or expect certain familiar nods, they will undoubtedly get those.

MTV: We've seen Nimoy delivering his classic "Live long and prosper" line in the trailer. Is he fundamental to the story line, or is it more or less a glorified cameo?

Abrams: No, it's no cameo. He's in the movie, and his role is critical. I always think "cameo" feels like a role that the movie could exist without. This is critical, emotional and also a story element.

MTV: When you look at the other "Star Trek" films, what are they missing that you wanted to bring to yours?

Abrams: There are a number of things that I think are unique to this movie. There's a level of relevance that I think is really because of the actors playing the part. I didn't want to just re-create or reset everything, I thought going back to those characters was important. [In previous films] when we met those characters, we met them pre-established. They'd already been working together, they already knew each other. They had this history. And for some reason, the origin of those relationships of those characters was something that probably would have helped me, at least, connect to them and understand why I should care about them and who they were.

So on those fundamental levels, none of the movies have had that before. But on a much more practical level, "Star Trek" has never had the opportunity, nor the resources, to be realized in this way. Things like the ships and the battles and the planets and the chases and the action sequences ... and do them in a way that felt thrilling and terrifying and entertaining in a way that the show and the prior movies simply couldn't afford to do. I feel we were able to bring to life, in a way we've never seen before, what it is to be a member of Starfleet. And that's kind of cool.





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Star Trek director JJ Abrams has posted a production update on the film’s official Facebook page:

“We’re just making final tweaks to the movie — we should be totally locked next week. Then we’re going to flash-freeze it so it’s totally fresh for you in May. I can’t wait for you to see the movie. The cast is awesome. The action and effects pushed the stunt team and ILM beyond their limits. I’m so grateful to this cast and crew — and to all of you for your interest and patience. We’ll continue to update this page with new info and exclusives, so check back when you think of it. In the meantime, have a happy, healthy, fun holiday! From the last days of the sound mix,  JJ”

It’s kinda crazy that the film will be completely locked next week, considering the film isn’t set to hit theaters for another four and a half months. Most big Summer blockbusters are racing to the finish line as the release date is only days away.


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Star Trek is not really my favourite childhood shows but i'll watch it just because of J.J Abrams!!

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Fascinating!!!! Official Prequel STAR TREK: COUNTDOWN Offers Giant Clues Regarding Spock, Nero and J.J. Abrams’ New Movie!!

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Major new clues regarding J.J. Abrams’s new “Star Trek” movie emerged Wednesday with the publication of Star Trek: Countdown's first issue, an IDW funnybook (billed as an official prequel to the Abrams movie) which swells my withered Trekkie heart.

Spoilers ahead

Highly nuanced, fast-moving and continuity-embracing, the first issue of “Countdown” is a fabulous read scripted by two guys named Mike Johnson & Tim Jones from a story by “Trek” screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. (Italian David Messina is the artist, and proves adept at capturing a very old Leonard Nimoy and very hot young Romulan women; I encourage Trekkies and Trekkers of all stripes to seek this publication out.)

Bullet-points:

* The tale is set decades after the events of “Star Trek: Nemesis.”

* A white-haired Spock is still living on Romulus, his home for the last four decades.

* Thanks in part to Spock’s efforts, there is now a far kinder, gentler Romulus than we remember. “Curiosity, tolerance and diplomacy ceased to be forbidden words in the empire,” notes Spock.

* Spock is no longer a covert operative. For five years he has served openly as the Federation’s ambassador to the empire. We learn that Vulcan, too, has established an embassy on Romulus, headed by an unseen fellow named Sular.

* In the comic Spock is something of a Jor-El figure, trying to avert a unprecedented natural disaster that threatens to obliterate Romulus and its entire star empire. Spock implores the Romulan senate to seek out the more technically advanced Vulcans; combining Romulan and Vulcan resources, Spock believes, can prevent horrifying cataclysm if they act quickly. But the old-guard Romulan leaders remain suspicious of Spock and the Vulcans, and stall a remedy.

* Having had a first-hand encounter with the deadly galaxy-gobbling anomaly, the Romulan Nero (long presumed to be the movie’s villain) is depicted in the comic as Spock’s staunchest ally. He is not a soldier but a selfless and heroic spacefaring miner and guild leader, a caring family man who finds himself risking everything to save his home, wife and unborn son. He is not a Nero content to fiddle as Romulus burns, and his face does not yet bear frightening tattoos.

Remans, first introduced in the terrible “Nemesis” six years ago, appear late in the first issue, and I am encouraged by Kurtzman & Orci’s willingness to embrace elements from even the most disreputable corners of the sprawling Trek franchise. The final page of the first issue should also bolster overall expectations. (More in invisotext.) The U.S.S. Enterprise, commanded by Captain Data, comes to Spock and Nero’s rescue!

It's not much of a leap to speculate that things go very badly with the galaxy-eater. Nero’s family and world, one imagines, will be wiped from existance and Nero will be compelled to travel back in time, to an era just before Jim Kirk’s birth, to set things right.

And, of course, Nero's attack on a ship carrying Jim Kirk's pop sets off a mammoth butterfly effect. Which is why, in the trailers, Chris Pike’s Earth-built Enterprise looks like the Enterprise-F and Chekhov now outranks Kirk.

Odd that this promotional tie-in funnybook fills me so with so much confidence for the movie, but dang me if it doesn't. J.J. Abrams says he was not a “Trek” fan before coming aboard the project, and I was frankly concerned that his overaching desire to bring “Trek” to a wider audience might supercede any reverence his Trekkier collaborators might have brought to the table. Subsequent to reading this first issue of “Countdown,” I find myself far less troubled. Say what you will about the failings of the studio-hammered “Transformers” script; I feel now that the Kurtzman-Orci team supplies geekitude sufficient enough to keep the new movie honest.

Look for me in line the night of May 7.


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SCI FI Wire confirmed today that a contract has been signed with CBS/Paramount to reopen the Star Trek The Experience exhibit in Las Vegas on May 8 —starting with at least a new restaurant and retail shop—to coincide with the opening of J.J. Abram's Star Trek movie.

"It is a bit premature to talk about it, but I can confirm that a contract has been signed," Liz Kalodner, executive vice president and general manager of CBS consumer products in New York, told SCI FI Wire exclusively. "I do not have any further comment."

Las Vegas city public information officer Jace Radke confirmed to SCI FI Wire that the Star Trek The Experience, which was to be closed at its home at the Las Vegas Hilton this year, will move downtown to the Neonopolis Center. "This is going to be a major part of the downtown redevelopment we have been working on, and the city department of business development has been trying to encourage attractions like this to the area," he said.

The Experience featured a restaurant and bar, shops and motion-simulator rides themed to Star Trek: The Next Generation ("Klingon Encounter") and Star Trek: Voyager ("Borg Invasion 4-D"). It's expected the new exhibit would feature similar rides at some point. For now, however, the plans envision just a new version of Quark's Restaurant and Bar, a Museum of the Future (perhaps incorporating elements and characters from the new movie) and a shop.

For his part, Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman said, "We are very excited about this for downtown."

The move would be part of the city's effort to redevelop the older part of downtown Las Vegas—situated at the end of the Strip of large casinos—into a more vibrant tourist and residential area. The Neonopolis project is one of the centerpieces of the area.

Radke added, "We are trying to secure other projects as well, but this Star Trek exhibit is happening, and we hope to have a portion of it ready by May 8. We're working on getting the Ts crossed and the Is dotted in the contract."

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Journalist Mark Hansel, who writes for In Business Las Vegas, has seen the contracts signed by studio officials, Neonopolis owners and the city of Las Vegas. "I have seen the contract, and I know that the city redevelopment manager met with CBS officials in New York to seal the deal," said Hansel, who has covered the downtown redevelopment for years for In Business and the Las Vegas Sun. "They are hoping that there will be some sort of premiere event at the time of the movie opening that will be out here. Obviously, the big premiere will be in Hollywood, but they hope to have something out here, too."

The costumes, the historic timeline, models of the ships and other items at the Star Trek Experience exhibit will be moved to a museum that is planned for the new location, but much of the exhibit probably wouldn't be opened until the end of 2010.

"I wouldn't expect the cool stuff for about a year," Hansel said. "A lot of it also depends on the popularity of the movie and how well it does, but the trailer looks like it's going to be pretty great." He added: "The price is going to be cheaper, maybe $20 or $25, and there may be package deals or year-long memberships, that kind of thing."

Hansel said interest in the exhibit waned in recent years. "I talked to people in the town about it, and they just weren't going or interested, but now there's a new buzz, especially since this is going back to the early years of the series," he added.

The new venue already has a 3-D enabled movie theater, and there may be plans to have a 4-D "experiential" ride similar to the ones at the Hilton. Neonopolis manager Rohit Joshi projected that 7 million visitors could come to the exhibit a year, which Hansel said is "a reasonable estimate."

Neonopolis will also host the Southern Nevada Fine Arts Museum, a Barbizon School, the Spanish-language Telemundo station and an upscale nightclub. The biggest draw is expected to be the Star Trek The Experience.


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Today at the IDW Comics panel at WonderCon, they discussed the Transformers, G.I. Joe and Star Trek prequel comics. When it came time to talk about Star trek's prequel comics, they were talking about how the Next Generation cast plays an important role in the story of the prequel and that in the last issue, (issue 4 I believe) it ends in a major cliffhanger with Nero that leads right into the new J.J. Abrams Star Trek movie.

"The end of issue 4 is a cliffhanger and is going to continue in the first few minutes of the movie."

Right after that was said, another writer (or artist) said that part of the movie will take place with the Next Generation cast and to look out for that. Another guy on the panel gave him a quick "uh oh" look.

After that, someone from the audience asked "So are members of the Next Generation cast in the new Trek movie?" to which the same guy replied, "I really cannot say anything about that."

Oops! I think you already did!

So that's news to me. I never thought of J.J. Abrams tying in the Next Generation cast to this remake of the Trek universe. Do the Next Generation guys have something to do with Nero's appearance as the villain in the new Trek movie? Because Nero is a character in the prequel comics with the Next generation cast.

Does the cliffhanger and the beginning of the Trek movie involve the Next generation cast? And who in the cast would return?

I video taped the panel, so look for that soon. For now, it's debate time! Did J.J. put characters from Next Generation into the beginning of his Trek movie?

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Exclusive First Look At Cover Of Star Trek Movie Adaptation (w/ New Plot Summary)

Some of the best Star Trek movie news to come out in February was announcement that sci-fi legend Alan Dean Foster would be adapting the Orci and Kurtzman script into a Novel. TrekMovie was the first with that news and today we have the exclusive first look at the front and back covers of the book, including the ‘blurb’ which gives a pretty good (spoilery) outline of the movie.

Star Trek - The Novel by Alan Dean Foster
Here is the front cover, which reflects some of the new promotional material showing up in theaters.

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Star Trek Novel adaptation - Front Cover & Spine

Back cover blurb outlines plot for Star Trek
We also have the back cover, which has the following plot summary for the novel (and the movie) outlining the origin story for Kirk and Spock and the crisis they will face with Nero and his Narada coming from the future:

One grew up in the cornfields of Iowa, fighting for his independence, for a way out of a life that promised only indifference, aimlessness, and obscurity

The other grew up on the jagged cliffs of the harsh Vulcan desert, fighting for acceptance, for a way to reconcile the logic he was taught with the emotions he felt.

In the far reaches of the galaxy, a machine of war bursts into existence in a place and time it was never meant to be. On a mission of retribution of the destruction of his planet, its half-mad captain seeks the death of every intelligent being, and the annihilation of every civilized world.

Kirk and Spock, two completely different and unyielding personalities, must find a way to lead the only crew, aboard the only ship, that can stop him


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Star Trek Novel adaptation - Back Cover

Decoding the blurb
Running that blurb through TrekMovie’s magic decoder ring, we come up with this:

Star Trek is a coming of age story for James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock who each deal with childhood struggles before coming together on the USS Enterprise, as very different people. They start at odds, but find a way to work together, along with the rest of the classic Trek crew, towards that friendship and family that has become legend.

They do this when faced with the crisis of Nero, a hell-bent for revenge Romulan from the future who is wreaking havoc across the Federation with his giant monster-like ship, the Narada. It seems that he has taken the destruction of his home planet Romulus personally, and is particularly pissed off at a certain pointy eared half-Vulcan whom he was working with in the 24th century before he came back in time and started cutting a swath across the galaxy.


Read the movie May 12th + message from author
The trade paperback (measuring 5 5/16″ x 8 1/4″) has an official release date of May 12th and can be preordered at Amazon (currently discounted to $10.20). There will be audio and e-book versions, also available on May 12th. As noted in our last article on this, the novel is 192 pages long. Some fans wondered if that was short, and so Alan Dean Foster has weighed in, with a comment at TrekMovie saying:

The [Star Trek] novel manuscript came in at about 79,000 words. Not War & Peace, not Stephen King, but far, far from a novella.

When comparing number of pages in a book, remember also that font size enters into the number of words per page.


And don’t forget about the prequel comic
And if you want to get the full Star Trek experience, then you will also want to pick up the comic book prequel series, "Star Trek Countdown." The series is halfway through with the final (of four) issues coming out the last week of April. This will conincide with the release of a trade paperback compiling all four issues. If you haven’t been reading the comics so far, this TPB is your best bet as the first two comics are already sold out.

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Star Trek Countdown (comic book prequel to movie)
- Trade Paperback - Front Cover




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Just in case anyone is interested, the music track in the 3rd Star Trek trailer is called "Freedom Fighters" by Two Steps From Hell...

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Here are a few stats about Star Trek:

- Top active site with most emotions invested in the movie is
startrekmovie.com
- Star trek gets a high share of all conversations about movies but the
overall volume of conversation has dropped since last period. The share of
positive discussions is pretty high.
- people across blogs, review sites and message boards are overwhelmingly
expecting a great or excellent movie
- Conversations about the story are increasing, but the sentiment is
Decreasing - less positive than before!
- Both volume of conversation and sentiments about emotions invoked are
increasing
- The overall ratings by unaided social media is lower than pure aggregated
user votes yahoo, rotten tomatoes, IMDB and others.
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just saw the trailer on 8tv or ntv7 (forgot) just now.looking forward to the real deal
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This year is really exciting. JJ Abram's Star Trek, Micahel Bay's Transformers, McG's Terminator, and Xmen Origin. thumbup.gif

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whats the new movie about?i see the advert and saw a frozen enterprise blink.gif
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I've seen the movie. To cut a long story short, while the movie remains entertaining - action packed with lots of humor as well, I found the story to be rather .... cliched and filled with loop holes.

Just think of it as a roller coaster ride and try not to expect anything more.
If you manage your expectations well, you might just be in for a good time. wink.gif

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where did you watch it?
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looks amazing...my younger bro reminded me of star trek...
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this film must be damn good!
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I presume you've also watched it?
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ May 2 2009, 03:14 PM)
I watched it in Mid Valley.

I presume you've also watched it?
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"'Star Trek' is a burst of pure filmmaking exhilaration and an irresistible invitation for fun. What more could you ask of a summer movie?"

"Exhilarating."
- Peter Travers, ROLLING STONE

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"An action-packed, epic adventure.
Even if you’ve never seen 'Star Trek' before,
This movie is for you!"

"The first 'Star Trek' for everyone!"
Scott Mantz - Access Hollywood

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"'Star Trek is way cool."
- NEWSWEEK headline/feature

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"Smart, sexy, sleek."
- Geoff Boucher LA TIMES

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“Spectacular action.”

“A cast so expert that all familiar characters are instantly identifiable.”

“The film is so much fun.”

“ILM again raises the bar on special effects.”

“Daniel Mindel’s cinematography is top-notch.”

“Scott Chambliss’ production design is top-notch.”

- Ray Bennett HOLLWYOOD REPORTER

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“Familiarity with the franchise is irrelevant. ‘Star Trek’ is exciting on its own terms.”

“Smart and breathless.”

“A summer blockbuster.”

- Todd McCarthy VARIETY

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“Get yourself excited…very, very excited…for the first A+ movie of the summer.”

“Incredible.”

- FILM.COM

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“Incredible.”

“This is the ‘Star Trek’ that I’ve been waiting for.

“No ‘Star Trek’ has ever been this thrilling.”

“It’s smart, on a grand level of spectacle and give me characters that I love to spend time with.”

“No ‘Star Trek’ has ever looked this good or was this thrilling.”

“Thrilling.”

- Harry Knowles AINT IT COOL NEWS

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“A genuinely fun and exciting science fiction action adventure.”

“The action is larger-than-life.”

- HUFFINGTON POST

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“Get ready for blast off!”

“A thrilling, massive scale sci-fi adventure with explosive visual effects.”

“Compelling.”

“An Extraordinary achievement and great entertainment.”

-  Louise Keller URBAN CINEFILE

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“A stupendous production.”

“’Star Trek goes where no movie sequel or prequel has gone before.

“Intelligent and inventive.”

“Spectacular.”

“Sensational, fully satisfying major entertainment.”

- Andrew L Urban URBAN CINEFILE

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“4 stars.”

“A first-class film in every way…from the script, acting and directing to set design, art direction, editing and score.”

“A brilliant, heart-pounding score that makes the movie even better, composer Michael Giacchino's best work.”

“Even if you're not a ‘Star Trek’ fan, you'll love it.”

“The best ‘Star Trek’ movie yet!”

“Amazing!”

“Heart-pounding action.”

“An amazing adventure.”

“Way cool!”

“Even if you don't know the difference between a Vulcan and a Romulan, you'll love it!”

- Steve Oldfield, WFOX

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“****”

“The 2009 summer movie seasons has begun with a bang! ‘Star Trek’ is an intergalactic blast!  It’s a fresh update with a fantastic cast that’s totally hip and hot.”

- Shawn Edwards, WFOX

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“‘Star Trek’ is finally cool.”

“This generation's ‘Star Wars.’”

- Kirk Montgomery, KNBC

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“A thrill ride from start to finish. Out of this world fun.”

“Hold on to your seats. This adventure catapults you out of this world.”

“Thrilling, non-stop action and humor too. Star Trek for a new generation.”

“Star Trek is in great hands with J.J. Abrams. This movie will turn us all into Trekkies.”

“A star is born in Chris Pine.  An action man with a universe of charm.”

- Anne Craig, Good Day New York/KFOX-TV

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“The summer movie season is officially underway.”

“Star Trek kicks the summer movie off and into warp speed.”

“Audiences will enjoy ‘stand up and cheer’ summer fun as they watch the crew of the Enterprise come together.”

“J.J. Abrams does not disappoint with this superstar summer blockbuster.”

- Tyra Martin, WGN/CW

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“Abrams was able to capture the heart and soul of the original series for fans while also making a summer thrill ride movie for people who’ve never even heard of Kirk or the Enterprise.”

“Seeing it once is not enough.”

- Lisa Fuller-Magee, KNBC

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“Whether you’re a lifelong fan or experiencing it for the first time, ‘Star Trek’ goes where no other film in the series has gone before!”

- Jake Hamilton, KCBS

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“J.J. Abrams is bringing Trekkie back!”

- Kim Holcomb, KNBC

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“Stunning!”

“Whether you’re a fan or it’s your first time, this ‘STAR TREK’ is for you.”

- Kelli Gillespie, XFOX

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“Awesome.”

“The ride of the summer.”

- Jason Matheson, KFOX & UPN

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“Amazing! Star Trek will excite the old and new generation of Trekkie fans!”

- Andrea Vecchio, WNBC

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“A thrilling blockbuster you'll want to see over and over.”

“BOLDLY GO and SEE IT!”

“Set your phasers to awesome.”

“STAR TREK has been reborn.”

“... It’s why movie theatres have screens.”

- Tony Toscano, KABC &CW

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“It's exactly what you want out of a blockbuster.”

“What Nolan did for Batman, Abrams does for Star Trek.”

- Jeff Bayer, KFOX

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“The greatest ‘Star Trek’ adventure of them all.”

“Bold! Exciting! Action-packed! ‘Star Trek’ is back and better than ever!”

“A sci-fi masterpiece from the beginning to end.”

“As the ultimate Trekkie…this is what I've been waiting for.”

“‘Star Trek’ for a whole new generation.”

“The movie experience of a lifetime!”

- Jeff Howard, KNBC & CW

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“Relentlessly entertaining.”

“Thrill-A-Minute entertainment from the opening shot to the final credits.”

“The best ‘Star Trek’ movie ever made.”

“A movie for ‘Star Trek’ fans and all movie fans.”

- Drew Moniot, KCBS

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“Stunning visuals and amazing story line. J.J. Abrams has created a Star Trek both old fans and newcomers to the series will be happy with.”

- Kate Weidaw, KNBC

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“An amazing adventure for fans AND first-timers!”

“Doesn't stop 'til the end credits roll!”

- Stephanie Webb, WABC

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“A magnificent adaptation of a true classic.”

“This ‘Star Trek’ version will appeal to audience of all ages.”

“Take the journey into the final frontier - you won't be disappointed.”

- Jim Ferguson, KABC & CW

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“The best movie of the summer so far.”

“Beam up for ‘Star Trek.’”

“Worthy addition to the ‘Star Trek’ cannon.”

- Manny De La Rosa, KNBC

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“The best ‘Star Trek’ yet.  It will leave you cheering.”

“The cast is spot on perfect!  This ‘Star Trek’ will thrill new fans and old.”

“Thrilling! Full of warp speed adventure, that will leave you breathless.”

“Never seen ‘Star Trek?” This is where to start!  It will blow you away!”

“Dazzling effects, a thrilling adventure and a cast with heart.  ‘Star Trek’ lives!”

“A reboot that works even better than ‘Batman Begins’ and ‘Casino Royale.’ ‘Star Trek’ relaunches for a whole new generations of fans!  Flat out perfect!”

“Grips you from the start and never lets go!  ‘Star Trek’ is the first smash of the summer.”

- Bryan Erdy, Insight Cable

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“The perfect film!”

“The movie of the year!”

- Nancy Jay, EX-TV

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“‘Star Trek’ fans will not be disappointed…they’ll be blown away.”

- Mitch English, The Daily Buzz (CW)

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“The franchise is re-born!! ‘Star Trek’ fans unite, go see this solid film!!”

“Simply Sensational.”

“Exhilarating!”

- Mose Persico, CFCF Flash

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* * * * *  (five stars)

“Stunning.”

“Perfectly pitched to satisfy Trekker nerds and more a general action-flick audience.”

- THE TIMES (UK)

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* * * * *  (five stars)

“Not a Trekkie? That’s fine – it’s crammed with action.”

“Exhilarating.”

- ZOO (UK)

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* * * * * (five stars)

“Out of this world!”

“Far the best of the 11 ‘Star Trek’ movies.”

“The outstanding prequel of all time.”

“Stupendous special effects.”

“A magnificent score by Michael Giacchino.”

“A treat for the eyes and ears.”

- DAILY MAIL (UK)

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* * * *  (four stars)

“’Star Trek’ is a winner.”

- TIME OUT (UK)

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“Top pick of the summer.”

“Most anticipated summer movie.”

- FILM 2009 (UK)

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* * * *  (four stars)

“The first genuine blockbuster of the year.”

“Exhilarating, breathless, lavishly mounted adventure.”

“Exhilarating.”

“Stunning.”

“The biggest, boldest cinematic outing the franchise has yet seen.”

“A revamp everyone can get on board with.”

“The freshest ‘Trek’ in decades.”

- TOTAL FILM (UK)

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* * * *  (four stars)

“Confident, clever and spectacular enough to please die-hard fans and newcomers alike.”

“’Star Trek’ is a warp-speed ride.”

“Bigger, brasher and more exciting than everything that’s gone before.”

“Spectacular.”

- EVENING STANDARD (UK)

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“A breathtaking spectacle.”

“Exhilarating.”

- GQ ONLINE (UK)

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“’Star Trek’s back and bolder than ever!”

“The biggest and best ‘Star Trek’ film ever!”

- THE SUN (UK)

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“The first true blockbuster of 2009.”

“Gripping.”

“A genuinely spectacular film.”

“It doesn’t take a diehard Trekkie to enjoy.”

“’Star Trek’ carries itself with immense style and heart.”

- Mark Monahan TELEGAPH (UK)

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* * * *  (Four –and a half - Stars)

“The first true blockbuster of 2009.”

“Diehard Trekkies should dig this prequel as much as those aboard the USS Enterprise for the first time.”

“Electrifying.”

What escapist viewers want – exciting cinematic coolness”.

- Ben McEachen, SUNDAY TELEGRAPH (UK)

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* * * * (4 stars)

“The most exhilarating ‘trek’ to date.”

“The franchise has been permanently shifted to new rails…welcome to the new ‘verse.”

“For the first time in the franchise, the Enterprise is a genuine thrill-ride.”

“This ‘Trek’ is physical and emotional, sexy and vital. Sassy, young and hip.”

- Colin Kennedy EMPIRE ONLINE (UK)

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“I had a blast! Audiences are going to be blown away.”

- Andy Taylor, Entertainers (UK)

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wow, really some good, yet near-perfect film of this year.
i'm still waiting for the official reviews of terminator salvation. see how it goes up.
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Gonna watch this movie. Seemed like not much hype about this movie. Reading the reviews from the newspapers and magazines, this movie is really underrated in the beginning unlike the disappointing X-Men Origins, Dragon Ball and The Fast And The Furious which are overrated.

Am not a fan of Star Trek and Transformers as i was a child and i am sure i will not be dissapointed after watching both movies. Love JJ Abrams to bits.

And yes, tomorrow is Wednesday.

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yeah...booked my tickets to see the movie 2mrw at 10.10 pm...i hope the movie is going to kick ass....never been a Star Trek fan...but judging frm the trailer n seeing it's a origin movie....i can't wait to see it...besides im a fan of JJ Abrams the director.....
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Will be watching tomorrow night, booked 9pm show... biggrin.gif
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100% T-Meter Critics at rottentomatoes.

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because malaysians hype Wolverine more
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Malaysian movie goers have no idea what they're missing... And geez, a 100% Fresh Tomato rating on RT... shocking.gif
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I'm one of the person who is in shocked where a sci fi movie can get 100% tomato rating. This is totally unbelievables.
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Go J.J. Abrams ! rclxms.gif This guy isn't a Trekkie. Heck he did this movie not for Star Trek fans, but more movie-goers around the globe. Great job on everything he does from my fav show Lost to Fringe to this.



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Really respect a Michael Bay and JJ Abrams. They are not a Transformers and Star Trek fan but they direct the movie so he could turn a non-fan viewers into a die hard fan. Not only the viewers but them themselves.

Me also not a fan of Transformers and Star Trek, but these 2 directors able to make me watching the old school cartoons and tv series/movies.
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eh dont equate Bay with Abrams.

btw it's up to 41 reviews at RT, still 100%.
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 6 2009, 11:50 PM)
eh dont equate Bay with Abrams.

btw it's up to 41 reviews at RT, still 100%.
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I don't. I respect JJ Abrams more actually. I compared the two directors not because of the personality but because of both of their movies are able to change people.
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I don't. I respect JJ Abrams more actually. I compared the two directors not because of the personality but because of both of their movies are able to change people.
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i havent seen anything from Abrams that i actually like.

this might be the first,judging from the reviews hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ May 6 2009, 11:59 PM)
i havent seen anything from Abrams that i actually like.

this might be the first,judging from the reviews hmm.gif
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i havent seen anything from Abrams that i actually like.

this might be the first,judging from the reviews hmm.gif
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I greatly enjoyed both M:I:II and Cloverfield for what they are. He is by no means great yet, but he's still new.
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 7 2009, 12:15 AM)
I greatly enjoyed both M:I:II and Cloverfield for what they are. He is by no means great yet, but he's still new.
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Correct me if i'm wrong. If i'm not mistaken he only directed MI3. And he is the produce of Cloverfield. And he's the writer of Armageddon.


Movie/TV Series that he directed:

# Untitled Hunter Scott Project
# Anatomy of Hope
# Star Trek
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dont put high hopes on it .. some of the part are really boring
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Will be watching it tonight at 9pm... Dang, I can't wait already... biggrin.gif
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ahh just came back from the movie biggrin.gif
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it is a nice movie biggrin.gif

is there any extra scenes after the credits? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 6 2009, 11:50 PM)
eh dont equate Bay with Abrams.

btw it's up to 41 reviews at RT, still 100%.
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I am checking out RT right now.

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76 reviews later ! OMG... this looks set to be a "universally acclaimed" live-action flick on 2009. Sci-fi at its finest ?

J.J Abrams has done it again. Absolutely. I sooo want to watch it. Too bad I've got exams.

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i just saw this. it's brilliant. totally different from other "lame-ass" star trek movies of the recent years. although i dont think it rivals wrath of khan, but it's definitely the top 3 star trek movies in my list.

it doesnt try too hard to shove the scifi elements that have become the identity of star trek into the audience. there are lots of dialogues on science and technology stuffs, but most of it were not exactly core to the plot, which was to my wife's relief. simply put, it's very satisfying for a trekkie like me, but it's not too hard to catch up for an absolute trek noob like my wife.
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I'm one of those trek noobs. Never seen a single episode of the series, and only watched First Contact when I was a kid. This was awesome. The cast is fantastic, each character with his/her own distinctive swagger. The plot is frenetic, paced at warped speed and never slowing down, never ever having a boring moment. The humour is spot on. The visuals are good. And the whole thing provides a heck of a fun ride. Most impressive is its lightness, which is just about perfect - not campy yet never too serious. Everything just bloody works. Simon Pegg is awesome! I wont call this 'sci-fi', but a great summer blockbuster it certainly is.
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Bought 3 ticket tomorrow at 7.30 pm. Can't wait.
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Just got back from Cineleisure after watching Star Trek... The critics were right, I was totally BLOWN AWAY by this 11th instalment! thumbup.gif

When the credits starts rolling, the audiences in the cinema actually clapped! rclxms.gif
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The cast is perfect, the story is fun, SFX and VFX rocks. Trekkie or just into sci-fi - GO SEE IT, you will enjoy every last minute of it. thumbup.gif
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How many hours duration?
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Me just got back from Pavilion. ""Live long and prosper!!" : icon_rolleyes.gif

The cast is perfect, the story is fun, SFX and VFX rocks. Trekkie or just into sci-fi - GO SEE IT, you will enjoy every last minute of it.  thumbup.gif
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How many hours duration?
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notice any of the cameos? tongue.gif
Yeah, I noticed the villain from Iron Man. laugh.gif Can't remember which one is the 24 dude; but he's the one died first during free-fall jumping scene, rite? laugh.gif


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Yeah, I noticed the villain from Iron Man. laugh.gif Can't remember which one is the 24 dude; but he's the one died first during free-fall jumping scene, rite? laugh.gif
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came back and checked IMDB terus-it is them! laugh.gif

hoping to go watch again this wednesday happy.gif
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How many hours duration?
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QUOTE(Ninja @ May 8 2009, 12:35 AM)
Yeah, I noticed the villain from Iron Man. laugh.gif Can't remember which one is the 24 dude; but he's the one died first during free-fall jumping scene, rite? laugh.gif
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Yeah, that's Faran Tahir... The other guy at the free-fall scene, Chief Engineer Olsen is played by Greg Ellis, he also appeared in the 1st and 2nd sequel of Pirates of the Carribean, he was also the lead villain in the 2008 Knight Rider TV pilot movie...
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yup tongue.gif

came back and checked IMDB terus-it is them! laugh.gif

hoping to go watch again this wednesday happy.gif
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Yeah, Karl Urban (Eomer from LOTR) look so young. laugh.gif And, not to forget Simon Pegg from HOT FUZZ... he's hilarious. laugh.gif

And, the Russian accent dude; I can't stop laughing. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ninja @ May 8 2009, 12:50 AM)
Yeah, Karl Urban (Eomer from LOTR) look so young. laugh.gif And, not to forget Simon Pegg from HOT FUZZ... he's hilarious.  laugh.gif

And, the Russian accent dude; I can't stop laughing.  laugh.gif
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i'm pretty sure i saw kal penn (kutner in house, kumar in harold and kumar) on the bridge with captain pike.
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fun fun movie! reminds me of the jokes from Star Trek 6.
And Sylar's just SO Spock!! Can't imagine another actor as Spock

But a few complaints tho...
1) Certain scenes goncang too much till pening.
2) A little uncomfortable with the pretty major changes to the Trek storyline
3) Where's the main Star Trek theme?!?!?! Waited for the credits to end but still didn't hear it sad.gif

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QUOTE(noonian @ May 7 2009, 05:44 PM)
fun fun movie! reminds me of the jokes from Star Trek 6.
And Sylar's just SO Spock!! Can't imagine another actor as Spock

But a few complaints tho...
1) Certain scenes goncang too much till pening.
2) A little uncomfortable with the pretty major changes to the Trek storyline
3) Where's the main Star Trek theme?!?!?! Waited for the credits to end but still didn't hear it sad.gif
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2) which major changes would that be?
3) it was played during the main credits (the one with galaxy montage).
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3) it was played during the main credits (the one with galaxy montage).
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just snippets of it..not the whole main theme played during the opening of the tv series

pity william shatner tho haha...his usual "space...the final frontier" speech kena curi by Nimoy ahahahhaa...
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amazing, 100% very best movie, i never go watch star trek before, this is my first star trek movie, damn superb, the movie was about 2 hours + , and when u watch it, u totally don't know the time passed by so fast , and the movie keep u focusing on it, until u didn't aware the movie already 2 hours +, not like lord of the ring when u sitting 2 hours + , u kindly moving ur ass around already.....hahahah, very recommended.......... i give 10/10 , if you are the first time star trek viewer. and 8/10 for star trek fans.
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Yeah, I noticed the villain from Iron Man. laugh.gif Can't remember which one is the 24 dude; but he's the one died first during free-fall jumping scene, rite? laugh.gif
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was that fella a redshirt ? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(noonian @ May 8 2009, 01:44 AM)
3) Where's the main Star Trek theme?!?!?! Waited for the credits to end but still didn't hear it sad.gif
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U mean the Alexander Courage original version, right? It was played in its entirety during the end credits... But it was mixed with Michael Giacchino's composition...
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Not a fan of Star Trek and the only Star Trek movie I've seen was First Contact which left me super blur. But when I saw this new film, I was totally blown away. Very nicely done with balance sequences of action, humuor and drama. Highly recommended. I totally can't stop laughing at the "Wictor Wictor" part. Hahaha...
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ May 8 2009, 08:29 AM)
was that fella a redshirt ? laugh.gif
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Of course he was. lol

I can think of only 3 negatives, none of which ruins the experience by much:

1) Abrams employed too much shay cam in the space battles and some of the physical fights.
2) The villain wasn't a really interesting one, but you hardly notice it.
3) I cant think of a highlight sequence from the movie. Perhaps the entire movie is the highlight, but try thinking one standout scene and see if you can come up with one.

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For you all information, JJ done a really great story telling that has satisfied all hardcore trekkies and new comers. The old Spock came from the original Star Trek Timeline (Star Trek 1.0) which consist of the original Kirk, Picard timeline and into this new alternate timeline (Star Trek 2.0). The movie has nicely bridge the story of 2 timeline together without ignoring the original lore and thus yet "reboot" the series into a new unknown future.

Really a great movie, gonna watch it again in THX to get the better feeling of the Warp Engine boost.
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yeah...watched the movie last nite...this is truly a good movie....the pace was quite frenetic...the cast was superb...every character got the perfect actor n actress....got some really funny scenes...the graphic was superb too!!!hahaha....it is a must watch movie in my book...i rate this higher than xmen origin wolverine......the freefall space scene was the standout scene for me!!!would love to watch it over n over again.....everyone!!!go watch it now!!!!
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Another funny part I like was when Sulu was preparing the Enterprise for warp speed for the very first time... laugh.gif
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U mean the Alexander Courage original version, right? It was played in its entirety during the end credits... But it was mixed with Michael Giacchino's composition...
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in older movies the theme was more distinct


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QUOTE(RyanAtwood @ May 8 2009, 11:58 AM)
yeah...watched the movie last nite...this is truly a good movie....the pace was quite frenetic...the cast was superb...every character got the perfect actor n actress....got some really funny scenes...the graphic was superb too!!!hahaha....it is a must watch movie in my book...i rate this higher than xmen origin wolverine......the freefall space scene was the standout scene for me!!!would love to watch it over n over again.....everyone!!!go watch it now!!!!
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I went to watch the premiere at Cineleisure on tuesday night.
Excitement, entertaining and action all the way. I didn't feel that I was
watching a two hours movie.
Overall an excellent movie ... don't miss it.
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142 reviews, 94% tomatometer. rclxm9.gif

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_11/

IMDB: 83%, 2311 votes. hmm.gif

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/
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i've just watched the show.. first show of the day..

1 word to describe the movie.. AWESOME!

totally deserves the 5/5 stars its getting everywhere.. JJ directing is amazing and the casts are spot on. Zachary has just stepped up another notch in his acting with Spock. From Sylar to Spock.. haha..

The part where Sulu made a hash during the launch of the Enterprise is super funny.. was laughing already before the joke was out.
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if this film is considered canon in the star trek universe, then the rest of the star trek spinoffs (the next generation, deep space nine, voyager) except enterprise simply did not happen. brilliant, bcoz i totally dont mind a new star trek tv-series of the original generation.

the problem is, to get the cast to play a tv-series might be too much to ask. well, atleast i could hope for several sequals to this film.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 8 2009, 04:16 PM)
if this film is considered canon in the star trek universe, then the rest of the star trek spinoffs (the next generation, deep space nine, voyager) except enterprise simply did not happen. brilliant, bcoz i totally dont mind a new star trek tv-series of the original generation.

the problem is, to get the cast to play a tv-series might be too much to ask. well, atleast i could hope for several sequals to this film.
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Yeah, U might be right, but I think it would be kinda nice if they can make a new TV series based on this "Alternate Trek Universe"...

I'm happy that they've oredi confirmed a sequel scheduled for a 2011 release... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ May 8 2009, 08:39 AM)
Yeah, U might be right, but I think it would be kinda nice if they can make a new TV series based on this "Alternate Trek Universe"...

I'm happy that they've oredi confirmed a sequel scheduled for a 2011 release... rclxms.gif
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i'd love to see how the new federation evolves without most of the founding members - the vulcans.
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4/5

Liked it but wasn't as enthusiastic as some.

I think it's a very tricky to rate this movie. First off I'm glad it didn't feel like a 2 hour episode of Star Trek but on the other hand, Abrams directed it like he would have had in a 2 hour pilot for a TV series - throw in lots of explosions and special effects in the absence of more screen time among the cast (more screen time between Spock and Kirk?!) but leave us drooling for MORE in future installments. The cast assembled definitely is a perfect fit but f*** me, Quinto is the man - showed the most emotion without moving a muscle on his face and never thought Pine could be Kirk but he pulled it off and Yelchin was hilarious!

Only negatives were that some of the scenes intended to draw a laugh was distracting and weren't needed (Kirk trying to warn the ship that they were walking into a trap) and I thought there'd be a love triangle between Spock, Kirk and Uhura but wasn't to be. I liked it, would watch it again but though different genres of movies, Batman Begins is still the perfect prequel/origin story for me.

PS: I had a nerdgasm when Slusho was ordered. drool.gif

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Does this movie have a lot of action scenes? I'm more of an action fan and I'm hoping this movie will have some cool sci-fi action stuffs like...Transformers?
And I'm hoping for less romance. I don't like romance in my action.
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just got back from seeing it. awesomeness biggrin.gif 5/5
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 8 2009, 04:16 PM)
if this film is considered canon in the star trek universe, then the rest of the star trek spinoffs (the next generation, deep space nine, voyager) except enterprise simply did not happen. brilliant, bcoz i totally dont mind a new star trek tv-series of the original generation.

the problem is, to get the cast to play a tv-series might be too much to ask. well, atleast i could hope for several sequals to this film.
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TOS, TNG, DSN, VYR timeline will still continue. As mentioned in the movie by Spock I think; that this movie has spawn an alternate reality. You see, the successful of the movie is because the original timeline is remain as canon and yet the new timeline also canon. So now in star Trek back story have 3 realm which is Star Trek 1.0 (Original), Star Trek 2.0 (New), and Mirror universe. With all 3 remain intact and alive. The most exciting is because of this superb arrangment the fandom accepted JJ adaption well.
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QUOTE(yeehs18 @ May 8 2009, 03:12 PM)
TOS, TNG, DSN, VYR timeline will still continue. As mentioned in the movie by Spock I think; that this movie has spawn an alternate reality. You see, the successful of the movie is because the original timeline is remain as canon and yet the new timeline also canon. So now in star Trek back story have 3 realm which is Star Trek 1.0 (Original), Star Trek 2.0 (New), and Mirror universe. With all 3 remain intact and alive. The most exciting is because of this superb arrangment the fandom accepted JJ adaption well.
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there are only two timelines now: the original star trek and this new movie. TNS, DSN, voyager, enterprise and all the other movies fall into the original timeline, just at different point of time.
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very nice way to 'cheat' the previous movies and series by just making it into alternate reality. they were just obvious with it with the multiple cheating stuff in the movie.

as preposterous the red matter was, the movie is still highly entertaining. are they making it into a tv or movie series?
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I hope they keep it as a movie series instead.
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Wow. I don't know why. This movie, is said to be one of the finest sci-fi movie ever made and also best prequel ever made in history of movies.

Every one of my friends who watched the movie said it was a freaking blast. They want to watch it... again.

J.J. Abrams has done it.

BTW, when the trailer first came out, I just loved the whole "colorfulness" and "shininess" of the movie. Everything looks incredible. Not corny, but in a way, it is dealt in such high quality.

Damn.

Haven't watch this movie, but pre-cinema score I'll give it a beautiful 9 / 10 .


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i've watched this movie 2times...really good movie..i like this movie so much.

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Nobody ever mentioned about Eric Bana as Captain Nero? He was awesome as well. Just like tom Cruise from Trophic Thunder, i was like.. hey i know this guy but what's his name... patiently waited and saw Eric Bana name as Nero. LOL

Actually many actors from TV series acting in the movie such as Jennifer Morrison (Cameron from House), Zachary Quinto (Sylar from Heroes) and many more.

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superbly awesome movie!!!!

i feel like watching it again!

I'm a trek fan and i can accept this alternative universe, as long as it doesnt re-write the original star trek (since it still exists but in a different reality)!
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I'm no serious trekkie but I've watched a few Star Trek TOS movies and I thought JJ Abrams did a fabulous job. The cast was excellent. I had initial doubts of the 2 comedic actors in this movie but turned out to be pretty enjoyable. Graphics were stellar as well as the action. Would have preferred if it was less funny though, some scenes were just made for laughs and i thought it was unnecessary. But luckily the script didn't turn out to be as appalling as Transformers. Great movie. Solid 4/5.
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amazing movie.
thanks mr abrams for not forsaking trekkie like me.
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*is it me or the creature in Delta Vega looks like it came straight from Cloverfield? tongue.gif
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Another funny part I like was when Sulu was preparing the Enterprise for warp speed for the very first time... laugh.gif
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Added on May 9, 2009, 7:16 amplus...i dint know wynona ryder is spock's mom...hahaha

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Of course he was. lol

I can think of only 3 negatives, none of which ruins the experience by much:

1) Abrams employed too much shay cam in the space battles and some of the physical fights.
2) The villain wasn't a really interesting one, but you hardly notice it.
3) I cant think of a highlight sequence from the movie. Perhaps the entire movie is the highlight, but try thinking one standout scene and see if you can come up with one.
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QUOTE(yeehs18 @ May 8 2009, 11:12 PM)
TOS, TNG, DSN, VYR timeline will still continue. As mentioned in the movie by Spock I think; that this movie has spawn an alternate reality. You see, the successful of the movie is because the original timeline is remain as canon and yet the new timeline also canon. So now in star Trek back story have 3 realm which is Star Trek 1.0 (Original), Star Trek 2.0 (New), and Mirror universe. With all 3 remain intact and alive. The most exciting is because of this superb arrangment the fandom accepted JJ adaption well.
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4/5

Liked it but wasn't as enthusiastic as some.

I think it's a very tricky to rate this movie. First off I'm glad it didn't feel like a 2 hour episode of Star Trek but on the other hand, Abrams directed it like he would have had in a 2 hour pilot for a TV series - throw in lots of explosions and special effects in the absence of more screen time among the cast (more screen time between Spock and Kirk?!) but leave us drooling for MORE in future installments. The cast assembled definitely is a perfect fit but f*** me, Quinto is the man - showed the most emotion without moving a muscle on his face and never thought Pine could be Kirk but he pulled it off and Yelchin was hilarious!

Only negatives were that some of the scenes intended to draw a laugh was distracting and weren't needed (Kirk trying to warn the ship that they were walking into a trap) and I thought there'd be a love triangle between Spock, Kirk and Uhura but wasn't to be. I liked it, would watch it again but though different genres of movies, Batman Begins is still the perfect prequel/origin story for me.

PS: I had a nerdgasm when Slusho was ordered.  drool.gif
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I thought the action was very much secondary to the characters. The character are what made this such a fun movie. And it's not the usual slow character-building we find in dramas as well, it's the kind where the situations and how they approach them which define who they are, and the dialogue in which everyone has a few great lines to deliver, and of course each and every one of them has their own style and swagger to back them up. It's the kind of character-driven movie which even the general Transformers-loving crowd can enjoy. And of course the pacing was perfect. Right from the moment we see the adult Kirk, the movie just flows magnificently, right till the end. The characters, and the pace and flow, and the lightness of touch everywhere... those are the main elements which made this such a terrifically fun movie. There wasnt a thick plot, but what was there was good, setting aside a few coincidences which didnt bother me at all. Forget Iron Man, forget Indy IV, this is how you do summer blockbusters.

Btw I liked the score. Dunno how it compares to Goldsmith's or any other Trek scores, but I liked this one.

Anyway anyone feels the red monster, apart from the head, looks like the one in Cloverfield? That was one scene which was unnecessary, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

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I thought the action was very much secondary to the characters. The character are what made this such a fun movie. And it's not the usual slow character-building we find in dramas as well, it's the kind where the situations and how they approach them which define who they are, and the dialogue in which everyone has a few great lines to deliver, and of course each and every one of them has their own style and swagger to back them up. It's the kind of character-driven movie which even the general Transformers-loving crowd can enjoy. And of course the pacing was perfect. Right from the moment we see the adult Kirk, the movie just flows magnificently, right till the end. The characters, and the pace and flow, and the lightness of touch everywhere... those are the main elements which made this such a terrifically fun movie. There wasnt a thick plot, but what was there was good, setting aside a few coincidences which didnt bother me at all. Forget Iron Man, forget Indy IV, this is how you do summer blockbusters.

Btw I liked the score. Dunno how it compares to Goldsmith's or any other Trek scores, but I liked this one.

Anyway anyone feels the red monster, apart from the head, looks like the one in Cloverfield? That was one scene which was unnecessary, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
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Oh, when you compare it with jerry's, this one taste like dog poo.

Star Trek is all about the characters, never in the series/movies the action plays the primary role. It's all about the chemistry between the crew and how they respond to the situations. I like how Abrams stayed that way, maintaining the close rapport between Kirk, Spock and the crew. although I didn't like some parts where he tried to "Hollywood"nized it with some not-really-apt-and-humourous lines, I do like they way the actors played their roles at the end.

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Major disappointment is the score. Appalling.
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it has homages to the original "Star Trek : The Motion Picture" and the Original Series.
small nuances of emotive composition here and there.
very nice if you ask me.
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Hmm look like this movie has a good review here, really that good? even for a non-trek fans like me? is the story continuous from last episode or what??
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ May 9 2009, 12:52 PM)
Hmm look like this movie has a good review here, really that good? even for a non-trek fans like me? is the story continuous from last episode or what??
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non-trekkie will find that the movie is highly accessible. and this movie is a new "reboot" to a new timeline canon to the series. so it's a new start to a whole new possibilities.
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non-trekkie will find that the movie is highly accessible. and this movie is a new "reboot" to a new timeline canon to the series. so it's a new start to a whole new possibilities.
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It seems like gonna spend for movie this Sunday rolleyes.gif anyway, I found that this few weeks are really lack of some good movie, only Wolverine unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ May 9 2009, 11:26 AM)
I thought the action was very much secondary to the characters. The character are what made this such a fun movie. And it's not the usual slow character-building we find in dramas as well, it's the kind where the situations and how they approach them which define who they are, and the dialogue in which everyone has a few great lines to deliver, and of course each and every one of them has their own style and swagger to back them up. It's the kind of character-driven movie which even the general Transformers-loving crowd can enjoy. And of course the pacing was perfect. Right from the moment we see the adult Kirk, the movie just flows magnificently, right till the end. The characters, and the pace and flow, and the lightness of touch everywhere... those are the main elements which made this such a terrifically fun movie. There wasnt a thick plot, but what was there was good, setting aside a few coincidences which didnt bother me at all. Forget Iron Man, forget Indy IV, this is how you do summer blockbusters.

Btw I liked the score. Dunno how it compares to Goldsmith's or any other Trek scores, but I liked this one.

Anyway anyone feels the red monster, apart from the head, looks like the one in Cloverfield? That was one scene which was unnecessary, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
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No, I thought the action was thrown in there for the sake of it. For example, the Cloverfield monster sequence was a waste of time and didn't create any suspense whatsoever. If that was the best way they could think of to introduce old Spock then so be it. : / I felt the same for Montgomery in the water tunnel as well.

I still think there could have been more time between the characters, mainly because I loved every minute of them on the screen. I can't think of one other movie where I would prefer seeing the cast than things blowing up (I'm looking at Fantastic Four here yawn.gif ). And really, as menacing as Bana was on his limited screen time, I thought that he could have had more time on screen as well which was why I felt that the action took precedence.

EDIT: I'm pretty much repeating what Makakeke said there upon seeing his reply.

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I didnt' expect myself to like this movie. Now I'm in love with this movie now. It's entertainig, it's comedic...etc

I like this one part where I heard Kirk calling Chekov (which sounded like "Jack Off" Hahaha...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 8 2009, 11:56 PM)
there are only two timelines now: the original star trek and this new movie. TNS, DSN, voyager, enterprise and all the other movies fall into the original timeline, just at different point of time.
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In the Star Trek universe, there's actually several timeline. Of course the main original Star Trek is considered as main timeline but over the years there are a few tv episodes that deals with alternate timeline. Heck, there's even a timeline where the Federation is an evil empire and the other aliens such as Vulcans, Romulans, Klingons, etc were fighting a losing battle against humans. By the way, I think the old Spock from this movie did not even come from the original Star Trek timeline because in the original timeline, we know that Romulans still exist in TNG.

Anyway, its a damn good movie since it pleases both Trekkers like me and managed to attract non-Trekkers. The only problem was there a few holes in plotlines but nobody really bothers with it.

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damn, i cant stop laughing when i saw sylar LOLOL
And when he goes :"Mother mother" i was laughing my *** out since in the heroes series he also keep on saying "mother" LOL
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good movie. some of the dialogue reminded me of my schooldays - the science and maths.

agree too that that monster really look like the same monster from Cloverfield-maybe the legs, hands and head. mouth a bit different.

but... hey! where's the chick for Kirk? nobody ala Megan Fox? Haha!tor

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Fun movie. Except the excessive Lens Flare that makes me puke.
Its so JJ Abrams.
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imo this is the best Star Trek movie i have ever seen. all those other trek movies suck compared to this one. JJ Abrams gave new life to this franchise and i smell a sequel coming soon.
this is a must buy for me on blu ray.

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QUOTE(zs3889 @ May 9 2009, 01:37 PM)
It seems like gonna spend for movie this Sunday  rolleyes.gif anyway, I found that this few weeks are really lack of some good movie, only Wolverine  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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i sighed a little when it ended. i like it BUT, huge but...

it felt like a michael bay movie to be honest. so action packed, so flashy with the crazy lens flare use and FX, so...mainstream. which isnt necessarily bad, just didnt feel like star trek. no prime directive(yes there was no prime directive at that time) but its like it has no direction! If this were a parallel universe... there might be a possibility that the prime directive might not even come to existent in this timeline yawn.gif god that would suck so much.

it might be the end of the star trek we knew and love. bye bye sleek metal voyager, hello apple store voyager.

Chekov was so cute tho.

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ May 9 2009, 01:50 PM)
No, I thought the action was thrown in there for the sake of it. For example, the Cloverfield monster sequence was a waste of time and didn't create any suspense whatsoever. If that was the best way they could think of to introduce old Spock then so be it. : / I felt the same for Montgomery in the water tunnel as well.

I still think there could have been more time between the characters, mainly because I loved every minute of them on the screen. I can't think of one other movie where I would prefer seeing the cast than things blowing up (I'm looking at Fantastic Four here  yawn.gif ). And really, as menacing as Bana was on his limited screen time, I thought that he could have had more time on screen as well which was why I felt that the action took precedence.

EDIT: I'm pretty much repeating what Makakeke said there upon seeing his reply.
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Maybe I misunderstood. I was under the impression that you thought Abrams sacrificed character time for more explosions, because that certainly wasnt the case. The mix of characters and action was perfect, it's a minor pity that the space battles werent shot as well. I didnt like the multiple shots of people running in the ship's interior while everything was exploding. I think I read somewhere that that was how the series or earlier movies were like.

As for the humour, I laughed hard along with my friends in a cinema, and that is definitely not a bad thing. But it might manifest itself as excessive once I watch it on dvd alone.

Bana was good with what little he was given. If he was unfulfilling, it was because of the script.
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Fun movie. Except the excessive Lens Flare that makes me puke.
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Correction: So Kurtzman & Orci. See Transformers.
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THIS FEELS LIKE TRANSFORMERS.... IN SPACE.
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This is the best start trek movie ever. Great balance between action and drama. The casting is superb. Each character received fair screen time. Only minor disappointment for me was Simon Pegg's Scotty. The scottish accent felt unnatural and forced. Other than that great cast, great drama & suspense and great cgi.

Beats the crap out of the popcorn flick named X-men Origins: Wolverine.
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QUOTE(frega @ May 9 2009, 08:14 PM)
i sighed a little when it ended. i like it BUT, huge but...

it felt like a michael bay movie to be honest. so action packed, so flashy with the crazy lens flare use and FX, so...mainstream. which isnt necessarily bad, just didnt feel like star trek. no prime directive(yes there was no prime directive at that time) but its like it has no direction! If this were a parallel universe... there might be a possibility that the prime directive might not even come to existent in this timeline yawn.gif god that would suck so much.

it might be the end of the star trek we knew and love. bye bye sleek metal voyager, hello apple store voyager.

Chekov was so cute tho.
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Awesome movie .. even tho they screwed up the timeline .. but who cares laugh.gif
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the prime directive is what made star trek boring. you can't do this, you can't do that, etc. i like this new star trek and the way it's going. nothing to hold them back now. anything goes and if the borg shows up in front of them, they will probably shoot first, ask questions later. i like it!!!!!!!! to hell with the prime directive!!!!!!
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Yes it sounds exciting and fun, but...

ST is supposed to be a representation of the future, but noooo.... lets go back to our barbaric ways, shoot first, talk later? Starfleet is a para-military organization, there'll be rules and such. Its not a one-man show called the Enterprise and their big guns.

WTF Kirk promoted to Cadet -> Captain of the Federation Flagship when he's still picking up chicks in bars 3 years before?

WTF is with the shipyard on Earth when they werent making planet landing capable ships back then.

WTF is red matter that is capable of creating blackholes

WTF is being right in front of a blackhole and Enterprise just sits in front of it with and not being affected by it.

WTF happened to the blackholes that swallowed Vulcan and Nero's ship? Did it just poof? Blackholes DO NOT poof.

WTF is Nero's ship looking like a tentacled octopus when its a frakking mining vessel.

WTF is with the Romulan's tattoo, didnt even care to explain. Probably just there so they look badass, just like their ship. Hell they dont even look like Romulans.

GODDAMNIT, this just pisses me off so much.




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QUOTE(frega @ May 9 2009, 11:10 PM)
Yes it sounds exciting and fun, but...

ST is supposed to be a representation of the future, but noooo.... lets go back to our barbaric ways, shoot first, talk later? Starfleet is a para-military organization, there'll be rules and such. Its not a one-man show called the Enterprise and their big guns.

WTF Kirk promoted to Cadet -> Captain of the Federation Flagship when he's still picking up chicks in bars 3 years before?

WTF is with the shipyard on Earth when they werent making planet landing capable ships back then.

WTF is red matter that is capable of creating blackholes

WTF is being right in front of a blackhole and Enterprise just sits in front of it with and not being affected by it.

WTF happened to the blackholes that swallowed Vulcan and Nero's ship? Did it just poof? Blackholes DO NOT poof.

WTF is Nero's ship looking like a tentacled octopus when its a frakking mining vessel.

WTF is with the Romulan's tattoo, didnt even care to explain. Probably just there so they look badass, just like their ship. Hell they dont even look like Romulans.

GODDAMNIT, this just pisses me off so much.
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u nd to watch more star trek episode.
if they explain everything, it will be too loooooooooooonnnnnnnggg and booooooooorrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiinngggg.

I like JJAbram style.
keep it simple and awesome.

eg. Cloverfield, they didnt explain every bullshyt in the movie, which it makes it interesting.

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Quite good. Fresh new retake on the franchise but i agree with those who feel its too mainstream-ish.
(But then again, it is mainstream!)

the green girl is hot too.
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Correction: So Kurtzman & Orci. See Transformers.
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Yes it sounds exciting and fun, but...

ST is supposed to be a representation of the future, but noooo.... lets go back to our barbaric ways, shoot first, talk later? Starfleet is a para-military organization, there'll be rules and such. Its not a one-man show called the Enterprise and their big guns.

WTF Kirk promoted to Cadet -> Captain of the Federation Flagship when he's still picking up chicks in bars 3 years before?

WTF is with the shipyard on Earth when they werent making planet landing capable ships back then.

WTF is red matter that is capable of creating blackholes

WTF is being right in front of a blackhole and Enterprise just sits in front of it with and not being affected by it.

WTF happened to the blackholes that swallowed Vulcan and Nero's ship? Did it just poof? Blackholes DO NOT poof.

WTF is Nero's ship looking like a tentacled octopus when its a frakking mining vessel.

WTF is with the Romulan's tattoo, didnt even care to explain. Probably just there so they look badass, just like their ship. Hell they dont even look like Romulans.

GODDAMNIT, this just pisses me off so much.
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its simple yet entertaining..."sylar's" part is good...hahaha

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it felt like a michael bay movie to be honest. so action packed, so flashy with the crazy lens flare use and FX, so...mainstream. which isnt necessarily bad, just didnt feel like star trek. no prime directive(yes there was no prime directive at that time) but its like it has no direction! If this were a parallel universe... there might be a possibility that the prime directive might not even come to existent in this timeline yawn.gif god that would suck so much.
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I beg to differ. Trek fans complain a lot about the action, always saying "this is not what Star Trek is all about!"

This is what the movies are all about. Ever since The Wrath of Khan, the best Trek movies have always been fast-paced outer space action-adventures. You want scientific exploration plus social issues, watch the various TV series. A movie has to be, first and foremost, fun.

Otherwise you end up with the very first Trek movie - Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Do you remember how that turned out?


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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ May 9 2009, 11:20 PM)
u nd to watch more star trek episode.
if they explain everything, it will be too loooooooooooonnnnnnnggg and booooooooorrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiinngggg.

I like JJAbram style.
keep it simple and awesome.

eg. Cloverfield, they didnt explain every bullshyt in the movie, which it makes it interesting.
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I probably watched more than you. They explain stuff in the series. Star Trek = science. Even tho its technobabble, its technobabble that made sense and some has real world implications.

If they made a advanced torpedo that can pass thru shields, they'll tell you, its transphasic torpedo and its in a state of flux, which is why it goes thru shield like it werent there. Simple, made sense.

Matter antimatter, which does exist outside ST, does indeed work like it is in ST, in that it annihilates each other and produces energy. And they use it as "fuel".

I'm sorry but I didnt watch Cloverfield. And this is not Cloverfield.

This is a franchise that has evolved since the 60s to what it is now. I do not agree of this dumbing down to make it as a summer blockbuster type movie so Paramount can make money. And why do I say this? Cause every dumb, dumb and dumbass will like "Oh it was awesome and cool, and the special effects were sooo badasss!" after they watch it under the influence of shrooms.

Meaning it was made to be flashy and simple so it'll sell sell sell.


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This is what the movies are all about. Ever since The Wrath of Khan, the best Trek movies have always been fast-paced outer space action-adventures. You want scientific exploration plus social issues, watch the various TV series. A movie has to be, first and foremost, fun.
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I'm sorry I was just expecting more from a futuristic franchise to do some explaining and not make up some liquid in red that can pop up blackholes with just a freaking drop.

I do not mind the action. But there's just serious plot issues and vast list of inaccuracies, ie not following simple STverse guidelines or you know logic.

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Haha. Whatever you wanna say. I'm happy because i was not a Star Trek fan, otherwise i will not enjoy JJ Abram's Star Trek (just like you) or probably stop being Star Trek fan after watching it.

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QUOTE(frega @ May 9 2009, 11:44 PM)
I probably watched more than you. They explain stuff in the series. Star Trek = science. Even tho its technobabble, its technobabble that made sense and some has real world implications.

If they made a advanced torpedo that can pass thru shields, they'll tell you, its transphasic torpedo and its in a state of flux, which is why it goes thru shield like it werent there. Simple, made sense.

Matter antimatter, which does exist outside ST, does indeed work like it is in ST, in that it annihilates each other and produces energy. And they use it as "fuel".

I'm sorry but I didnt watch Cloverfield. And this is not Cloverfield.

This is a franchise that has evolved since the 60s to what it is now. I do not agree of this dumbing down to make it as a summer blockbuster type movie so Paramount can make money. And why do I say this? Cause every dumb, dumb and dumbass will like "Oh it was awesome and cool, and the special effects were sooo badasss!" after they watch it under the influence of shrooms.

Meaning it was made to be flashy and simple so it'll sell sell sell.


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I'm sorry I was just expecting more from a futuristic franchise to do some explaining and not make up some liquid in red that can pop up blackholes with just a freaking drop.

I do not mind the action. But there's just serious plot issues and vast list of inaccuracies, ie not following simple STverse guidelines or you know logic.
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well think of it this way as a fan. if they keep producing sleep inducing movies like before (but not wrath of khan, that one rocks!), there will never be anymore star trek and we will be end up watching the same Original Series till we are 90.

you gotta understand that the current movie going generation has the attention span of a goldfish. if you can't produce something that can't keep up with that, and at the same time making a long time fan like me happy, then might as well don't do it.

i'd rather see this franchise going into this hip and trendy direction (which is still canon) rather than having to sit thru the same old crap like Star Trek : Generations.

try telling a random kid/teenager about how warp engines supposed to work after they watched the movie, most probably they will say they dun care about that crap as long as they can enjoy the movie.

i wish hardcore fans like you can stop being elitist for a change. the essence of the story is still there, not like Deadpool being raped into some guy who came out from Mortal Kombat (i'm still angry about that, they've killed my beloved Deadpool). be happy that the series that we love is still here, and will probably stay for long while not forgetting fans like us.
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Yeah. The reason why Watchmen couldn't impress many people.
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Just like The Watchmen and practically every remake or adaptation the elitist will come bashing this and complaining that.

- Movie leaves out scientific explanation: If they go in details, they lose the attention span of non-geeks and young generation audience. Movie Bombs in box-office and the end of a franchise.

- Movie stays true to the old films, more character study = snooze-fest. Ppl complain not enough action like The Watchmen. Critics will say its not trying anything original and not pushing boundaries.

Lets face it. Who would be so kind/stupid to fork out money from their own pockets just to please a bunch of hardcore geeks? Its all about the money. ST is an old franchise, it needs to connect with the younger audience to keep it alive. It can't survive by pleasing the elitist.


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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 10 2009, 12:42 AM)
Just like The Watchmen and practically every remake or adaptation the elitist will come bashing this and complaining that.

- Movie leaves out scientific explanation: If they go in details, they lose the attention span of non-geeks and young generation audience. Movie Bombs in box-office and the end of a franchise.

- Movie stays true to the old films, more character study = snooze-fest. Ppl complain not enough action like The Watchmen. Critics will say its not trying anything original and not pushing boundaries.

Lets face it. Who would be so kind/stupid to fork out money from their own pockets just to please a bunch of hardcore geeks? Its all about the money. ST is an old franchise, it needs to connect with the younger audience to keep it alive. It can't survive by pleasing the elitist.
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QUOTE(frega @ May 9 2009, 03:10 PM)
WTF Kirk promoted to Cadet -> Captain of the Federation Flagship when he's still picking up chicks in bars 3 years before?


in the military, u can advance quickly if u perform in the field. similarly, starfleet conforms to naval structure.

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WTF is with the shipyard on Earth when they werent making planet landing capable ships back then.


good question!

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WTF is red matter that is capable of creating blackholes


this is explained in the tie-in comic miniseries.

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WTF is being right in front of a blackhole and Enterprise just sits in front of it with and not being affected by it.


they're outside the event horizon. this is also explained in the comics.

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WTF happened to the blackholes that swallowed Vulcan and Nero's ship? Did it just poof? Blackholes DO NOT poof.


it's still there. blackholes dont get bigger. if u noticed, u cant see the stars behind the "hole". contrary to popular beliefs, black holes are spherical, not a two dimensional like a sinkhole.

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WTF is Nero's ship looking like a tentacled octopus when its a frakking mining vessel.


i believe this is in the comics as well.

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WTF is with the Romulan's tattoo, didnt even care to explain. Probably just there so they look badass, just like their ship. Hell they dont even look like Romulans.

GODDAMNIT, this just pisses me off so much.
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also in the comics as well.
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I'm sorry I was just expecting more from a futuristic franchise to do some explaining and not make up some liquid in red that can pop up blackholes with just a freaking drop.

I do not mind the action. But there's just serious plot issues and vast list of inaccuracies, ie not following simple STverse guidelines or you know logic.
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What's with the Genesis device in Wrath of Khan? How can a machine the size of a pillar create life? What kind of science is that?

For that matter, how can aliens simply be humans with bumpy foreheads?

Face it, scientific accuracy has never been Trek's strong point. smile.gif






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QUOTE(n00b13 @ May 10 2009, 01:42 AM)
What's with the Genesis device in Wrath of Khan? How can a machine the size of a pillar create life? What kind of science is that?

For that matter, how can aliens simply be humans with bumpy foreheads?

Face it, scientific accuracy has never been Trek's strong point. smile.gif
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this and a lot of things too.


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ya man ... some techno babble is fine with me ... but too much just bores me to de core ... i loved how jj spiced n sexed it up star trek for de next generation of fans ... his casting of all de characters was almost flawless ... especially zachary quinto as spock ... damn ... its just like patrick stewart was picked to be professor x ... let's see how this moves on in an alternate reality for de crew/cast of USS Enterprise  whistling.gif
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lotsa possibilities that excites me about this whole new timeline in the canon history :

1. the Borg will probably be encountered earlier thanks to advancement brought over by the old Spock, probably the Borg was the one that created V'ger, therefore the V'ger incident can be avoided and intercepted.

2. Khan Noonien Singh will forever be a prisoner.

3. peace with the Klingons will be achieved sooner.

4. Spock having human wife!!

there's so many what-ifs that we have now that the series has been restarted and brought back to a new timeline..

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One word - - remarkable.

I am not a Star Trek fan, yet somehow, I know the names "Spock" and "Captain James T. Kirk". What this movie delivers is beyond just a movie - it is filled with moments that make you want to jump out of your seat or gasp for air. It is intense. It is fast paced. And it is Star Trek - something that I was never into. I daresay I only watched like 5 minutes worth of Star Trek TV series.

The movie started beautifully. Then the plot takes off from this point. It is humorous, it is serious, it is all out action. It is stylized heavily and it is damn gorgeous. The production design is astounding. The shiny bits of the interiors, the lights, the constant lens flare, all add up to the visceral experience that the movie has to offer.

The plot is simple. Yet it is intriguing. I loved the way J.J. Abrams did this movie. It is for everyone. Star Trek fans should be very, very pleased with the end result. And movie go-ers like me, enjoyed it thoroughly. Very satisfying.

Almost all aspects of this film exceeded my expectations, albeit a few lengthy argumentative scenes and witty words-smith bickering.

The cast is another achievement - - they are fit perfect for the roles. Zachary Quinto of "Heroes" fan does an incredible job of playing the uber popular "Spock". It is very refreshing to see how Star Trek is portrayed here.

The visual effects - - eye popping. Every moment of the action is as if it went through 15 filters and quality checks. It is very, very polished. Its like a movie with no edges, everything is so polished.

Watching the trailer and getting excited is one thing. Watching the movie and then feeling satisfied is another.

I sincerely recommend this movie to ANYONE, including non sci-fi folks. This is an amazing piece of entertainment. I just can't find something that I didn't quite like so much. I so want to watch this movie again. Perhaps a couple of weeks from now.

My rating : 9 / 10

Verdict : Pure genius. The action sequences are nothing short of breathtaking. It is a roller coaster ride and it is one damn fun movie to watch.

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Its a uber cool and fun movie. Nothing less and nothing more.

Its soooOOo Space-y thus appealing to the boys more. laugh.gif

Some 'emotional-believe-in-yourself-scene' could be a lil boring though. But everythin else is juz fine. Truly entertaining.

Now, Bring on Angels & Demons~
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 10 2009, 01:36 AM)
in the military, u can advance quickly if u perform in the field. similarly, starfleet conforms to naval structure.
good question!
this is explained in the tie-in comic miniseries.
they're outside the event horizon. this is also explained in the comics.
it's still there. blackholes dont get bigger. if u noticed, u cant see the stars behind the "hole". contrary to popular beliefs, black holes are spherical, not a two dimensional like a sinkhole.
i believe this is in the comics as well.
also in the comics as well.
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No, cadet = havent yet to graduated from the academy. and no they do not promote them straight to captain and given the most powerful ship in the federation.

More plotholes:
The drill lands RIGHT ON TOP of starfleet headquarters and you know they panic they do nothing and left it to kirk and sulu to destroy it with f***ing phaser rifles.

Kirk being chased by a subterranean monster that is furless on an icyplanet. we know kirk cant die, chase scene was made just for the sake of making it. Hell, none of the characters felt like it was in any danger at any point.

The odds of kirk finding old spock AND them finding scotty on some derelict planet? wow

A supernova destroying many star systems and romulus? really.

event horizon of a blackhole is you know RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. and if the 2 man-made blackholes after it ate the planet/ship were still there, you would know its there cos it'll start sucking up everything.

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I guess I have to read the comics to understand the rest of it.

And for the plotholes and bad science in the older ST movies, it was the frakking 60s. Newer ones dont go too "way out there". ST science is the only scifi that has science roots.

What you guys said is correct. In order to appeal to the masses, they need to do like a POW BAM WHOA BOOM scene every 5 mins or people get bored. Its kinda sad isnt it?

ST movies used to promote thinking, educate even. I remember watching Insurrection and think about social / rights issues. I remember watching Voyager and wikipedia-ing all the science stuff I dont understand and in turn learn about said phenomenon or whatever technology that was mentioned. It was the thing that made me interested in science, to know about string theory etc etc.

Its sad that kids and people generally have an attention span of a monkey and only want to be entertained by flashy special effects and explosions in every scene. Do everyone actually park their brains outside the cinema before they enter? or do they leave it in the car?

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No, cadet = havent yet to graduated from the academy. and no they do not promote them straight to captain and given the most powerful ship in the federation.

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if i recall correctly, the biggest perk of passing the kobayashi maru test is being promoted to ensign. nobody have ever passed it before as it has no winnable situation. kirk "cheated", although it is within parameters, but not apparent yet during the trial. while the trial is still pending due to the attack by nero, he was promoted to first officer by captain pike. with the absence of captain pike and spock out of commission, he was the acting captain for a brief period of time where he excelled.

yes, this version of kirk excelled much faster than the original kirk.

by the way, this film does have its scientific merits, it's just not embedded in the movie. i've just bought the 4 issue comic miniseries, and it does give u a more detailed idea of what's going on, where and how certain things came the way it is. if u're interested:

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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 10 2009, 10:04 AM)
if i recall correctly, the biggest perk of passing the kobayashi maru test is being promoted to ensign. nobody have ever passed it before as it has no winnable situation. kirk "cheated", although it is within parameters, but not apparent yet during the trial. while the trial is still pending due to the attack by nero, he was promoted to first officer by captain pike. with the absence of captain pike and spock out of commission, he was the acting captain for a brief period of time where he excelled.

yes, this version of kirk excelled much faster than the original kirk.

by the way, this film does have its scientific merits, it's just not embedded in the movie. i've just bought the 4 issue comic miniseries, and it does give u a more detailed idea of what's going on, where and how certain things came the way it is. if u're interested:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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kirk didnt actually pass it however and was put on suspension. but yes the chain of command seemed non-existant. pike decision to promote kirk from nothing to something. command was passed to so many people so many times...

Okay now it starts to make some sense... I will need to read this comic mini series.

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I beg to differ. Trek fans complain a lot about the action, always saying "this is not what Star Trek is all about!"

This is what the movies are all about. Ever since The Wrath of Khan, the best Trek movies have always been fast-paced outer space action-adventures. You want scientific exploration plus social issues, watch the various TV series. A movie has to be, first and foremost, fun.

Otherwise you end up with the very first Trek movie - Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Do you remember how that turned out?
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i remember. that was the most boring sci-fi movie i ever watched. i fell asleep half-way thru the movie. man, that was boring and i am glad the jj abrams didn't follow that boring direction. no wonder, that movie was such a massive flop back then. boring to the max!!!

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QUOTE(frega @ May 10 2009, 10:18 AM)
kirk didnt actually pass it however and was put on suspension. but yes the chain of command seemed non-existant. pike decision to promote kirk from nothing to something. command was passed to so many people so many times...

Okay now it starts to make some sense... I will need to read this comic mini series.
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pike promoted kirk simply because he knows what the kid is capable of. by right kirk has shown the highest aptitude within his ranks since the day he joined Starfleet. frankly speaking, he was born to become a rebellious captain of Starfleet.

yes. i do agree you need to expand your readings to comics in order to understand what the hell is goin on. call it the "whole experience".
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Whole yeah. This movie is really good. I've watched it enjoyed it every scene. This is want i'm talking about best sci-fi mover..even kids enjoy it. Trekkies with its own attidude
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Sorry I didnt see any wau!!! wah!!!!! in the movie.
maybe i know too much or watch too much of star trek.

But the mini comics really give a good explanation of what happens b4 the movie....i guess i am right.

The pace is just too fast without lots of explanation.....

The directors just like to show boom boom bang bang + high speed drop zone
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It was rather entertaining though I kinda agree with the movie having loads of plot holes.

Adding to the insult, Kirk makes Captain officially for defeating the Romulans and saving Earth while Pike makes Admiral for getting caught and 'tells' the enemy how to bypass the defenses? laugh.gif that part had me laughing in the end...

Never really caught on to the TV series but I never missed any of the movies. I watched all of them when there were shown on the big screens.
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just came back. the movie rocked mah socks off! rclxms.gif

i liked everything except maybe for the lens flare. too distracting.. rclxub.gif

and i loved that they brought back teh sex in this movie! oh yeah baby! icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(nwk @ May 10 2009, 10:20 AM)
i remember. that was the most boring sci-fi movie i ever watched. i fell asleep half-way thru the movie. man, that was boring and i am glad the jj abrams didn't follow that boring direction. no wonder, that movie was such a massive flop back then. boring to the max!!!
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That's the reason they cannot make another Star Trek movie like the first one. It was actually a very good sci-fi movie but I guess it will not appeal to people who don't even know what's Voyager. To say that this movie is the best Star Trek movie is an insult. Its a good popcorn movie and a good reboot of the franchise and great cast with a lot of potentions but I really hope they pay more attention to the story line in next one instead of focusing so much on special effects and action.

Anyway, a little off topic, check out this Star Trek gear:-

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The best is the Star Trek corset drool.gif

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Kirk and the Green Hulk ?

That's nowhere near something called "sex scene". The mannerism was actually humorous and definitely just PG-13.


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The movie rocks. However, Winona Ryder is a miscast as Spock mother. Too bad
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Loved the movie. Zachary Quinto was great as Spock smile.gif
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This movie is a great comedy relief, i lol'd at the castings.

QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 10 2009, 09:58 PM)
The movie rocks. However, Winona Ryder is a miscast as Spock mother. Too bad
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The movie is so polished.

Its like grandpa shining his 76' Corvette again and again and again until it looks damn shiny even though classic.


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QUOTE(fariz @ May 10 2009, 09:37 AM)
I certainly didn't expect to hear Beastie Boy's Sabotage in a Star Trek movie laugh.gif
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beginning of the movie , the car has a built in nokia phone . lol laugh.gif
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Theres only about 4 characters I can remember from star trek.

Spock
Kirk
Scott (thanks to the famous "Beam me up Scotty")
Picard.

What happened to Picard? He used to be the Captain of the USS Enterprise before Kirk right? O_O
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 11 2009, 03:01 PM)
Theres only about 4 characters I can remember from star trek.

Spock
Kirk
Scott (thanks to the famous "Beam me up Scotty")
Picard.

What happened to Picard? He used to be the Captain of the  USS Enterprise before Kirk right? O_O
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Spock, Kirk and Scotty is the from original series

Picard is the Captain of the USS Enterprise D from the Next Generation Series. So no, Picard is not the captain before Kirk.

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QUOTE(narutokun83 @ May 11 2009, 03:05 PM)
Spock, Kirk and Scotty is the from original series

Picard is the Captain of the USS Enterprise D from the Next Generation Series. So no, Picard is not the captain before Kirk.
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ah, so to say Picard is AFTER Kirk? Different timeline again?
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 11 2009, 03:16 PM)
ah, so to say Picard is AFTER Kirk? Different timeline again?
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Picard is about 2 generations after Kirk...
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i have watched this movie and i can say that...its very newbie friendly...there are no continuation from the previous movie and the now conveniently retconned past(or more precisely future lol) events with the events that happened in this movie

The action are fast paced as you would expect of movies this age. some might argue that the captain nero of nadara could do more good by warning the romulans when he went back in time but you must remember that his sense in clouded when he saw the destruction of his home planet and the death of his wife....and also he is just a miner, not some charismatic admiral of a military organization, maybe he is not as smart as he looks:lol:.

i guess in the future movies we can see more of the adventures of young kirk and his crew. the future of the federations are also going to be different now that vulcan is gone.

i have watched most of the movies and a few of the series and its quite sad to see all of them retconned like that.

well at least now we might see new fans that like this fast paced action sequence-type movies. but i guess these new fans might not like the more science-technobable of the series.

i would give it a 9/10 for the newbie friendliness. definitely a movie that anyone can watch and enjoy
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ May 11 2009, 03:16 PM)
ah, so to say Picard is AFTER Kirk? Different timeline again?
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The tv series timeline is:
1) Star Trek: Enterprise - Captain Jonathan Archer
2) Star Trek - Captain James Tiberius Kirk
3) Star Trek: The Next Generation - Captain Jean-Luc Picard
4) Star Trek: Voyager - Captain Kathryn Janeway

The Star Trek movie - Generations is where Captain Kirk and Captain Picard met.
I guess it is like a hand-over or passing the baton between Captain Kirk and Captain Picard
where Star Trek movies end and Star Trek:TNG begins ...
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Added on May 11, 2009, 8:16 pm@Haze.
I agreed with you 101%. This movie is for Star Trek fans and newbies.
As what the movie poster says "Star Trek - The Future Begins" ...
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holy shyt.... i never thought star trek could be so much less boring. this movie rocks. best prequel ever made
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watched this movie today...dam freaking awesome...i'm nt a star trek fan but i'm blown away by the movie...chris pine did well acting as kirk...ecquinto too as spock...hoping for a sequel...
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ok been reading a few of the posts and i dont seem to like the sound of it. are they re writing history ???? are they rebooting it like hulk ... if so im so gonna be .. meh.


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QUOTE(whoopa @ May 12 2009, 08:25 AM)
ok been reading a few of the posts and i dont seem to like the sound of it. are they re writing history ???? are they rebooting it like hulk ... if so im so gonna be .. meh.
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hulk is different in sense that it's the same story.
this one, is set in the same past, only with new future.
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omg ... new future ... sleep.gif" how can they just do that lol doh.gif
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QUOTE(whoopa @ May 12 2009, 08:58 AM)
omg ... new future ... sleep.gif" how can they just do that lol doh.gif
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it's called alternate timeline my friend.
it's quite common in science fiction.
and trust me, in this star trek movie, it's really believable about this new timeline.
if a trekkie like me can appreciate the movie so much, i don't think how you shouldn't.
unless.. you are one of those elitist.

yeah. i hate elitist. they refuse to evolve according to time.
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sadly.. i enjoyed this movie more than wolverine sad.gif

haha but yeah kudos to jj abrams, he did good thumbup.gif

very much hoping they make a sequel soon
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QUOTE(technophile @ May 12 2009, 11:13 AM)
it's called alternate timeline my friend.
it's quite common in science fiction.
and trust me, in this star trek movie, it's really believable about this new timeline.
if a trekkie like me can appreciate the movie so much, i don't think how you shouldn't.
unless.. you are one of those elitist.

yeah. i hate elitist. they refuse to evolve according to time.
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hmmmmmm mebbe i should see the movie first b4 giving verdict smile.gif i dont pre judge movies hehehe all movies deserve a chance lol ...

cos trekkie follows the timeline properly ... those who are new to star trek would just go WOAH!! fantastico .... trekkie will go like lulz what ? blink.gif

but as i said .. must see first hehe ... sound action packed tho ...
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Just saw it on yahoo - Anton "Wictor Wictor" Yelchin is in another hot summer blockbuster movie, Terminator Salvation. With a perfect american accent ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(frega @ May 9 2009, 11:10 PM)
WTF is Nero's ship looking like a tentacled octopus when its a frakking mining vessel.

WTF is with the Romulan's tattoo, didnt even care to explain. Probably just there so they look badass, just like their ship. Hell they dont even look like Romulans.

GODDAMNIT, this just pisses me off so much.
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Your confusion is explained in the 4-issue movie prequel comics, Star Trek: Countdown...

The reason why the Narada (Nero's ship) had "tentacles" is becoz of the integration of Borg technology...

You can read a summary of the prequel story here:

Star Trek: Countdown


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QUOTE(iman_210 @ May 9 2009, 07:14 AM)
yeha...and scotty's accent is erratic...hahaha


Added on May 9, 2009, 7:16 amplus...i dint know wynona ryder is spock's mom...hahaha
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Oh, you didn't know Spock's mom, Amanda was played by Wynona Ryder? laugh.gif

QUOTE(technophile @ May 9 2009, 12:17 PM)
i beg to differ. i love the score.
it has homages to the original "Star Trek : The Motion Picture" and the Original Series.
small nuances of emotive composition here and there.
very nice if you ask me.
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I like the Michael Giacchino score too, although it's not the best Trek score... I especially like the way Michael used the Chinese Er-hu to portray the Vulcans... It sounds really nice...

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QUOTE(whoopa @ May 12 2009, 08:58 AM)
omg ... new future ... sleep.gif" how can they just do that lol doh.gif
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watch back to the future la . time travel really is a headache
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Wait till the Blu-Ray version for another excitement as JJ has left out many story part for the sake of quick pace. It will be extended to almost 3 hours with more plots explained.
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QUOTE(technophile @ May 12 2009, 11:13 AM)
yeah. i hate elitist. they refuse to evolve according to time.
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Shhhh.. we have one of them here..
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just saw ST today and it was great.The treat says there is a sequel in 2011 is this confirm???
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QUOTE(yeehs18 @ May 12 2009, 04:53 PM)
Wait till the Blu-Ray version for another excitement as JJ has left out many story part for the sake of quick pace. It will be extended to almost 3 hours with more plots explained.
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i might just get it
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ May 11 2009, 08:01 PM)
The tv series timeline is:
1) Star Trek: Enterprise - Captain Jonathan Archer
2) Star Trek - Captain James Tiberius Kirk
3) Star Trek: The Next Generation - Captain Jean-Luc Picard
4) Star Trek: Voyager - Captain Kathryn Janeway

The Star Trek movie - Generations is where Captain Kirk and Captain Picard met.
I guess it is like a hand-over or passing the baton between Captain Kirk and Captain Picard
where Star Trek movies end and Star Trek:TNG begins ...
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You missed out Deep Space Nine between TNG and Voyager
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QUOTE(naith @ May 12 2009, 11:01 AM)
You missed out Deep Space Nine between TNG and Voyager
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if i recall correctly, DS9 and voyager is during the same time, but both is slightly after TNG.
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@naith, thanks for noticing.
I left out Deep Space 9 because I was focusing on the Star Trek with
starship Enterprise and Voyager ... smile.gif
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I JUST CAME BACK FROM WATCHING IT

AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS MOVIE

AND IF FIREDAUZ LOVED A MOVIE, YOU KNOW YOU WILL LOVE IT TOO
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if i recall correctly, DS9 and voyager is during the same time, but both is slightly after TNG.
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Its all during the same timeline. DS9 happens somewhere in the middle of TNG time whereas Voyager happens slightly after that. The only difference between Voyager and Enterprise is it happen in different quadrant.
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THis is one of the amazing movie! Wayyyy beyond my expectations.
Recommended to everyone. 9/10

action packed all around+humour
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anyone noticed the drink Uhura and Kirk ordered at bar? it was Slusho! lol
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Watched this film too, i never watched any series or its movie before. Its a masterpiece from JJ Abrams i would say . Anyone know when is dvd/bluray copy coming out?
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Technically DS9 did eventually get a ship, the USS Defiant smile.gif
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Technically DS9 did eventually get a ship, the USS Defiant smile.gif
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and it got destroyed and they renamed another ship of the same class as the defiant again .
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ok will consider watch this movie since lot of good comment.
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Just saw it for a second time and I still love it!
Bring on the Blu ray! rclxm9.gif
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now what happened to old spock ? hmm...
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ May 13 2009, 08:30 PM)
Just saw it for a second time and I still love it!
Bring on the Blu ray! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(yeehs18 @ May 12 2009, 04:53 PM)
Wait till the Blu-Ray version for another excitement as JJ has left out many story part for the sake of quick pace. It will be extended to almost 3 hours with more plots explained.
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wow thats good news indeed biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(firedauz @ May 12 2009, 08:31 PM)
I JUST CAME BACK FROM WATCHING IT

AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS MOVIE

AND IF FIREDAUZ LOVED A MOVIE, YOU KNOW YOU WILL LOVE IT TOO
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i give 5* for this movie...nice and erm nice!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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although i'm a Star Wars fan, i'll be going to watch this trekkie movie anyways.
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wow, wad a movie!!! all i can say is, i didnt anticipate for this movie, but i watched it today, and i think it r0x!
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Totally agree! I went to watch it today without much expectation but I was immediately blown away by the cinematography. One of the solid prequels ever made, hands down, BIG time! Must watch for all sci-fi movie lovers!
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ May 13 2009, 09:16 PM)
now what happened to old spock ? hmm...
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At the end of the movie, Spock Prime said that he is off to help the Vulcans in rebuilding their home in another planet he claimed to have found... So I guess he has been "written off" from the sequels until they feel that they should bring him back again...
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a very fun movie to watch. not your typical star trek movie. this star trek movie = beautiful people in uniform. Since when we ever get female officers in miniskirt in Star Trek - all of them wore long pants. Well not this one and oh there is a sex scene too tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Not much people like to discuss this movie, the dragon ball thread got more discussion lol. Means Dragon ball is better than this? haha..
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QUOTE(yeehs18 @ May 14 2009, 02:15 PM)
Not much people like to discuss this movie, the dragon ball thread got more discussion lol. Means Dragon ball is better than this? haha..
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Because there is nothing much to discuss in this movie.....

Just bang bang bang bom bom bom thats all....not thrilled at all compare with the older once.

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They mentioned Slusho in the bar scene, and the monster in the Delta Vega system looks exactly like the Cloverfield monster.

Wadafak?

Anyways, i really like the movie.
I just find the "glittery lens flare" effect in the enterprise abit distracting and nauseating.
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I've put up mini-reviews of the old Trek movies in my blog. If you're interested in exploring the history of Star Trek, hope my reviews can help. smile.gif

Part 1, first 5 movies are up. Part 2 will be up by tomorrow.



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QUOTE(noonian @ May 8 2009, 02:50 AM)
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just snippets of it..not the whole main theme played during the opening of the tv series

pity william shatner tho haha...his usual "space...the final frontier" speech kena curi by Nimoy ahahahhaa...
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Added on May 14, 2009, 8:27 pmThings I like:

-this movie has definitely brought back the Star Trek franchise from obscurity. this will spur a new generation of fans
-the actors and production crew really did their homework. kudos to that.
-non fans will like it because its a nice , cozy intro
-very gung ho, way more exaggerated than the original version actually


Now as a Trekkie, things I don't like (warning geeeky comments)
-villain was obviously useless, not even worth mentioning
-Leonard Nimoy (old spock) 's lines suck big time, he sounded more like a senile human old man than vulcan
-2 hours too short
-no time to see character development and chemistry between the actors. One thing that made Will Shatner and gang popular was the chemistry between kirk, spock, and bones. hopefully in future instalments we'll see a different yet cool take on it
-lack of positive theme (i.e. peace, human unity, anti-racism) but this would have bore most people anyway, instead we get young kirk and jing gang story


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QUOTE(Makakeke @ May 9 2009, 02:37 AM)
yea i thought that was the best characterization (is that the right word?) of the original cast. Spock comes second.
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i sighed a little when it ended. i like it BUT, huge but...

it felt like a michael bay movie to be honest. so action packed, so flashy with the crazy lens flare use and FX, so...mainstream. which isnt necessarily bad, just didnt feel like star trek. no prime directive(yes there was no prime directive at that time) but its like it has no direction! If this were a parallel universe... there might be a possibility that the prime directive might not even come to existent in this timeline yawn.gif god that would suck so much.

it might be the end of the star trek we knew and love. bye bye sleek metal voyager, hello apple store voyager.

Chekov was so cute tho.

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I dont know anything about star trek. i went and watch the movie because of zachary quinto, Simon pegg, and John Cho ....

and all i can say is ....

IT IS AWESOME !!! don't care about others it is really really good .. as good and the dark knight .. just that this is more to action .. haha
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I like how they make this movie that actually targeted to every general audience as well.

I am not a star Trek fans..In fact, I know nothing about Star Trek except their famous StarFleet look like.

I really enjoyed this movie a lot. The effect and the action quite well-done in my opinion and there are few dialog were quite funny. The soundtrack were quite amazing.

2 Hour length is alright..Not too long and not too short.

Definitely recommended for everyone and you can watch with your family as well.


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QUOTE(Vanquish @ May 14 2009, 09:38 AM)
At the end of the movie, Spock Prime said that he is off to help the Vulcans in rebuilding their home in another planet he claimed to have found... So I guess he has been "written off" from the sequels until they feel that they should bring him back again...
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so basically he is stuck there ? wah
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QUOTE(kding2 @ May 14 2009, 11:08 PM)
2 Hour length is alright..Not too long and not too short.
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Anyone didn't come out of the movie not wanting to be on a spaceship?
I think JJ Ab just came out with the right mix of drama, adventure and sci-fi compared to the previous few StarTrek movies. Beats StarWars 1 - 2 - 3 hands down.

Was anyone impressed how much Kurk was beaten up and yet survived? Well I would imagine more futuristic weapons instead of fist and knuckle fights.

Beam ME up Scotty smile.gif

9.0 out of 10.0 from me

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Was never a Star Trek fan. Always changed channels everytime it was on TV (don't shoot me).

But after watching the movie with no expectations and all, I'd say I'm a fan now. wink.gif

Visuals and imagery aside, characters and storyline are all well developed. Love the chemistry between the crew - Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Sulu, Bones, Scott. All a very nice blend.
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Space... the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Just before the ending credits, who said that..? Picard or Nimoy ..?
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QUOTE(shumaky @ May 15 2009, 09:20 PM)
Space... the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Just before the ending credits, who said that..? Picard or Nimoy ..?
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i was never really star trek fan... they started off very early in the 50s or 60s... and the settings was soooooo lame IMO. the only star trek i watched is star trek voyager... voyager looked cute.. not like conventional star trek ships with out-stretched engines.

star trek 09 is good... very nice. but still got some lame stuffs.

they should have made the small shuttle ships better(not boxed shape like cardboard), and the bridge chairs are like office chairs... then.. they were talking bout shields... i never see any shields on the ships. everytime it always kena hit by missiles... and damaged.

y like that?... what are the shields for actually? and y no AI computer (artificial intelligence) present in star trek? any star trek fans here... ans pls... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(cruel_boy @ May 16 2009, 09:25 AM)
i was never really star trek fan... they started off very early in the 50s or 60s... and the settings was soooooo lame IMO. the only star trek i watched is star trek voyager...  voyager looked cute.. not like conventional star trek ships with out-stretched engines. 

star trek 09 is good... very nice. but still got some lame stuffs.

they should have made the small shuttle ships better(not boxed shape like cardboard), and the bridge chairs are like office chairs... then.. they were talking bout shields... i never see any shields on the ships. everytime it always kena hit by missiles... and damaged.

y like that?... what are the shields for actually? and y no AI computer (artificial intelligence) present in star trek? any star trek fans here... ans pls... icon_rolleyes.gif
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1. the shuttle designs follow the original star trek designs. no point changing those coz it'll go out of place. same goes with the bridge design. look up the term "retro-futuristic".

2. shields in star trek have always been invisible. u dont see it until it is hit by an offensive weapon like phasers, disruptors etc. during the early days, shields are a bit primitive. facing an advanced borg-infused battleship from the future such as the narada (nero's ship), they stand no chance. a cluster of those missiles was enough to disrupt the entire shield array, damaging the ship directly.

3. one of the in jokes amongst trekkies about the absence of AI is 2001:space odyssey. or at least google hal9000, the AI that went haywire and killed almost its entire crew.

on the other hand, the ship always had a basic system AI, but not enough to control the entire ship. star trek universe relies on human (or alien) capabilities to control the ship. the reason for this is computers are good at doing repetitive jobs, but would be almost useless in critical situations that involves unique parameters. humans on the other hand are good at handling critical situations, but would bore out and dive into complacency in a repetitive situation. this is the exact same reason why airline jets today still have pilots. did u know that we do have enough technology today to fly and land jets totally without the presence of pilots? biggrin.gif
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How did Kirk pass that simulation test designed by Spock?
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How did Kirk pass that simulation test designed by Spock?
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i think many ppl watch the cartoon ver b4, it was shown on tv3 if not mistaken, during the 90s. I still remember Spock said "I come in peace"
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I never watch any Star Trek. Star Wars yes, Star Trek no. Today my friends invited me to watch it in the cinema and my verdict of it is "It's surprisingly good."

When Kirk stole the antique car, a man on the phone shouted "Just because your mother isnt here..."

Then, a human lady appeared in Vulcan and married a Vulcanian, giving birth to Spock.

Near the ending, at the docks, Ol' Spock said to Spock something about you two (refering to Kirk and Spock) being connected in ways beyond your imagination or something like that.

Does Kirk and Spock have the same mother?
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ May 16 2009, 07:05 PM)
I never watch any Star Trek. Star Wars yes, Star Trek no. Today my friends invited me to watch it in the cinema and my verdict of it is "It's surprisingly good."

When Kirk stole the antique car, a man on the phone shouted "Just because your mother isnt here..."

Then, a human lady appeared in Vulcan and married a Vulcanian, giving birth to Spock.

Near the ending, at the docks, Ol' Spock said to Spock something about you two (refering to Kirk and Spock) being connected in ways beyond your imagination or something like that.

Does Kirk and Spock have the same mother?
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if this is an entirely fresh reboot, then it is possible.

but unfortunately, it still follows most of the original timeline. spock's mother was amanda grayson, a school teacher, while kirk's mother, winona kirk, was a starfleet officer.

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if this is an entirely fresh reboot, then it is possible.

but unfortunately, it still follows most of the original timeline. spock's mother was amanda grayson, a school teacher, while kirk's mother, winona kirk, was a starfleet officer.
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Question.
Why there are no seat belt on the chairs in the bridge?
Captain Kirk and the rest of the crew has to hold tightly to the seat when they are being bombarded or they should be jump over the place to give a dramatic look?
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ May 17 2009, 11:12 AM)
Question.
Why there are no seat belt on the chairs in the bridge?
Captain Kirk and the rest of the crew has to hold tightly to the seat when they are being bombarded or they should be jump over the place to give a dramatic look?
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LOL, that nigger chick from the original Star Trek series acted as Micah's grandma in Heroes season 2.
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On the beginning scenes, i felt that if i watching lost esp seeing how james t kirk was born and his dad sacrificed himself. Perhaps some JJ Abrams signature?

Watched today and it is a perfect pilot episode in which by the end of the movie, you cant wait for next week to watch the next episode! rclxms.gif

Too bad the next sequel will come by 2011 instead of next week. sweat.gif
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I wonder why they aren't doing a series with this cast.

Perhaps I'm wrong but none of them are A-list actors thus won't cost a bomb to make a series, I remembered the cost for the last season of ST:TNG the cost per episode was crazy coz the actors were so in demand their contract prices kept going up and up. Just like how FRIENDS actors ended up being over greedy.
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ May 17 2009, 07:12 PM)
Question.
Why there are no seat belt on the chairs in the bridge?
Captain Kirk and the rest of the crew has to hold tightly to the seat when they are being bombarded or they should be jump over the place to give a dramatic look?
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you have to know this happens way back in the past when the enterprise is still primitive... as you can see young kurk and spock..

they prolly would invent seat belt years or decades later

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Ceh Gundam spaceship also no seat belt.

You can only see ball bouncing only when u get hit
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I just love how they still make this movie in a rendition of the far future from a 60s point of view.

- Male crew must've mastered the highest level of self control, hence the female crews can strut around in miniskirts uniform.
- Crew members still loading torpedoes manually into the hatch, devoid of mechanical intervention. Starfleet never knew how to minimise their running cost by keeping as little manpower as possible, by developing more automated technology in their ships.
- most planets contains adequate % of oxygen, hence can humans can walk on them safely










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Even in Star Trek: TNG and Voyager, there is no seat belt on the captain's chair or all the chairs on the bridge ...
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 18 2009, 10:03 AM)
I just love how they still make this movie in a rendition of the far future from a 60s point of view.

- Male crew must've mastered the highest level of self control, hence the female crews can strut around in miniskirts uniform.
- Crew members still loading torpedoes manually into the hatch, devoid of mechanical intervention. Starfleet never knew how to minimise their running cost by keeping as little manpower as possible, by developing more automated technology in their ships.
- most planets contains adequate % of oxygen, hence can humans can walk on them safely
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self control? i thought so but after seeing how kirk was going at the green alien then peeping uhura getting nekkid brows.gif
is much more complex than making a warp drive doh.gif
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ May 18 2009, 05:06 PM)
Even in Star Trek: TNG and Voyager, there is no seat belt on the captain's chair or all the chairs on the bridge ...
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so they can show off their dramatic falls.
i think can footballers can apply for star trek laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 18 2009, 02:03 AM)
- most planets contains adequate % of oxygen, hence can humans can walk on them safely
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actually this follows the earlier assumption in science that all life must be carbon based, breaths oxygen and lives within the goldilocks belt.
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Nice movie

At the scene where kirk was getting his captaincy, and spock prime was watching from a distance. I was half expecting him to say "you know jim, i never told him i couldn't do that mission alone" And then william shatner appears. ( meaning they did the mission together but spock nvr told young kirk )

Did you see wynona rider!?

Anybody caught the reference to admiral archer ?

To me this is a all star cast.. harold as sulu, aoemer as bones, sylar as spock, theres even that asian guy from prison break appearing for a few seconds..
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watched the show and quite like it.,very different from previous ones but if you are talking bout capturing new fans or younger ones i think they are on the rite track dis time.


Added on May 19, 2009, 12:38 amhave been a fan long time ago started with william shatner as kirk on tv series then their first movie--star trek the motion picture then picard,sisko janeway and archer

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I have a question though, aren't Romulans supposed to be similar with Vulcan in terms of appearance?

Is there anything that I've missed? Not really a trekkie anyway.
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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion @ May 19 2009, 07:36 AM)
I have a question though, aren't Romulans supposed to be similar with Vulcan in terms of appearance?

Is there anything that I've missed? Not really a trekkie anyway.
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They are related to Vulcans but have evolved differently. Technically like more emotional Vulcans if I'm not mistaken.
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They are related to Vulcans but have evolved differently. Technically like more emotional Vulcans if I'm not mistaken.
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I know that, but as far as I remember, they look almost the same.

In Star Trek, Nero looked so different, especially with those face tattoos.
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i'm STAR TREK fans too...but haven got time go for tis movie...rated ?/10?
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 18 2009, 02:29 AM)
you have to know this happens way back in the past when the enterprise is still primitive... as you can see young kurk and spock..

they prolly would invent seat belt years or decades later
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well in nemesis deleted scene, they finally added a seat belt . lol
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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion @ May 19 2009, 02:18 PM)
I know that, but as far as I remember, they look almost the same.

In Star Trek, Nero looked so different, especially with those face tattoos.
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For that think there's no explanation. This Trek movie is a re-imagining and even Abrams + writers admitted that he didn't watch (or like) Trek to prepare for this movie.

For one there would probably not exist any Romulan miners like Eric Bana and his gang in this movie. From the last TNG movie Nemesis it's explained that the Romulans used Remans mostly as slave miners.

Secondly Romulans as we know it with their humongous shoulder pads and quilted jackets don't exist any more in this timeline biggrin.gif They'll probably change to look like Eric Bana with tats. Wonder how they'll change the whole Klingon culture.

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QUOTE(redninja @ May 19 2009, 09:27 AM)
For that think there's no explanation. This Trek movie is a re-imagining and even Abrams + writers admitted that he didn't watch (or like) Trek to prepare for this movie.

For one there would probably not exist any Romulan miners like Eric Bana and his gang in this movie. From the last TNG movie Nemesis it's explained that the Romulans used Remans mostly as slave miners.

Secondly Romulans as we know it with their humongous shoulder pads and quilted jackets don't exist any more in this timeline biggrin.gif They'll probably change to look like Eric Bana with tats. Wonder how they'll change the whole Klingon culture.
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actually, there is an explanation, but not in the movies. it's in the tie-in comic books.

romulans is exactly the same in this movie as in the rest of the star trek world. romulans stemmed from the same biological background as the vulcans, but they moved to a different planet a couple of thousand years ago and have evolved independently ever since. during that time, the vulcans developed the logic religion, while romulans keep to their ancestor's more violent and free-for-all ways.

actually, we dont see other romulans in this movie other than those on the narada (nero's ship).

the reason why nero looks very different is bcoz after their home planet destroyed in the future, nero and his crew went on a rampage. they killed the romulans high council bcoz they failed to stop the planet from being destroyed. they wiped out a fleet of klingon ships who're defending their turf. then they wanted to kill spock bcoz he also failed to save the planet. in doing so, nero became a rogue entity. they shaved their heads to purge themselves, and tattooed themselves to remind them of their lost. also, nero has a bite mark on his face, which he got on a klingon prison planet. this will be in the deleted scenes.
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i'm STAR TREK fans too...but haven got time go for tis movie...rated ?/10?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 19 2009, 07:25 PM)
actually, there is an explanation, but not in the movies. it's in the tie-in comic books.

romulans is exactly the same in this movie as in the rest of the star trek world. romulans stemmed from the same biological background as the vulcans, but they moved to a different planet a couple of thousand years ago and have evolved independently ever since. during that time, the vulcans developed the logic religion, while romulans keep to their ancestor's more violent and free-for-all ways.

actually, we dont see other romulans in this movie other than those on the narada (nero's ship).

the reason why nero looks very different is bcoz after their home planet destroyed in the future, nero and his crew went on a rampage. they killed the romulans high council bcoz they failed to stop the planet from being destroyed. they wiped out a fleet of klingon ships who're defending their turf. then they wanted to kill spock bcoz he also failed to save the planet. in doing so, nero became a rogue entity. they shaved their heads to purge themselves, and tattooed themselves to remind them of their lost. also, nero has a bite mark on his face, which he got on a klingon prison planet. this will be in the deleted scenes.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 19 2009, 07:25 PM)
actually, there is an explanation, but not in the movies. it's in the tie-in comic books.

romulans is exactly the same in this movie as in the rest of the star trek world. romulans stemmed from the same biological background as the vulcans, but they moved to a different planet a couple of thousand years ago and have evolved independently ever since. during that time, the vulcans developed the logic religion, while romulans keep to their ancestor's more violent and free-for-all ways.

actually, we dont see other romulans in this movie other than those on the narada (nero's ship).

the reason why nero looks very different is bcoz after their home planet destroyed in the future, nero and his crew went on a rampage. they killed the romulans high council bcoz they failed to stop the planet from being destroyed. they wiped out a fleet of klingon ships who're defending their turf. then they wanted to kill spock bcoz he also failed to save the planet. in doing so, nero became a rogue entity. they shaved their heads to purge themselves, and tattooed themselves to remind them of their lost. also, nero has a bite mark on his face, which he got on a klingon prison planet. this will be in the deleted scenes.
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Also, the reason why nero's ship which is just a mining ship is so powerful is because its fitted with Borg's tech.
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QUOTE(gafun @ May 19 2009, 12:22 AM)
Nice movie

At the scene where kirk was getting his captaincy, and spock prime was watching from a distance. I was half expecting him to say "you know jim, i never told him i couldn't do that mission alone" And then william shatner appears. ( meaning they did the mission together but spock nvr told young kirk )

Did you see wynona rider!?

Anybody caught the reference to admiral archer ?

To me this is a all star cast.. harold as sulu, aoemer as bones, sylar as spock, theres even that asian guy from prison break appearing for a few seconds..
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when? doh.gif
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When Spock and young Kirk met Scotty on the ice planet. Scotty talked about how he did some transporter experiment with Admiral Archer's beagle that didn't go well tongue.gif

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When Spock and young Kirk met Scotty on the ice planet. Scotty talked about how he did some transporter experiment with Admiral Archer's beagle that didn't go well  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 19 2009, 07:25 PM)
actually, there is an explanation, but not in the movies. it's in the tie-in comic books.

romulans is exactly the same in this movie as in the rest of the star trek world. romulans stemmed from the same biological background as the vulcans, but they moved to a different planet a couple of thousand years ago and have evolved independently ever since. during that time, the vulcans developed the logic religion, while romulans keep to their ancestor's more violent and free-for-all ways.

actually, we dont see other romulans in this movie other than those on the narada (nero's ship).

the reason why nero looks very different is bcoz after their home planet destroyed in the future, nero and his crew went on a rampage. they killed the romulans high council bcoz they failed to stop the planet from being destroyed. they wiped out a fleet of klingon ships who're defending their turf. then they wanted to kill spock bcoz he also failed to save the planet. in doing so, nero became a rogue entity. they shaved their heads to purge themselves, and tattooed themselves to remind them of their lost. also, nero has a bite mark on his face, which he got on a klingon prison planet. this will be in the deleted scenes.
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Wow thanks for that. Why didn't they include that into the movie? Most people would be blur or think it's a plot hole.

I enjoyed the movie as an action movie that happens to be set in space (or the Trek universe) but I'm one of those people that don't think it's quite Trek (anymore).
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QUOTE(redninja @ May 20 2009, 09:03 AM)
Wow thanks for that. Why didn't they include that into the movie? Most people would be blur or think it's a plot hole.

I enjoyed the movie as an action movie that happens to be set in space (or the Trek universe) but I'm one of those people that don't think it's quite Trek (anymore).
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nowadays, it's part of the marketing.
too bad malaysian movie bookers always forget about this.

these kinda marketing can be attributed to the Wachowski brothers when they did their Matrix 2 and 3.
actually trekkies are kinda lucky coz Abrams only went to comic and not the whole "videogame + comic + web experience" route.
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In a 2hours plus movie, there are just too many things to describe the star trek universe. Overall, it is excellent movie. For existing star trek fans, it is something different. For new star trek fan, it is fast-paced and full of actions scene.
The casting of the actors for the characters is excellent. Sadly, there was a brief introduction of the main characters in the movies. Hopefully, in the next sequel of the movie, we will be able to learn more about them.

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Watched it yesterday and like it. Overall I give 8/10. The main thing i dun like is Sylar as Spock ... It's just seems not right at all ...
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When Spock and young Kirk met Scotty on the ice planet. Scotty talked about how he did some transporter experiment with Admiral Archer's beagle that didn't go well  tongue.gif
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Watched it yesterday and like it. Overall I give 8/10. The main thing i dun like is Sylar as Spock ... It's just seems not right at all ...
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 22 2009, 12:20 PM)
i don't understand this part. how did scotty know that he needs to wait for future spoock and kirk on the ice planet?
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Maybe he was stationed there.
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huhu..this movie really best..so far the best movie (angel & lemon also) for year 2009
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huhu..this movie really best..so far the best movie (angel & lemon also) for year 2009
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huhu..this movie really best..so far the best movie (angel & lemon also) for year 2009
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i dun understand with the kelvin design. in wiki its stated that according to Gene D's rule, all star trek ship must have paired warp engines... how come kelvin only has one?

wen enterprise removed the core into da blackhole it created HUGE explosion...bt how come when kelvin rammed into nadara, only small explosion... it still had the core right... should't the core explode?
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QUOTE(cruel_boy @ May 22 2009, 06:30 PM)
i dun understand with the kelvin design. in wiki its stated that according to Gene D's rule, all star trek ship must have paired warp engines... how come kelvin only has one?


perhaps this could shed some light.

Tehnical Development
One naccelle ships for destroyers had one big engineering problem and initially the problem was solved. The standard warp coil was replaced with a dualitic coil. This was essentially 2 sets of coils customized to fit into the one nacelle housing.
This was successful, however many felt that the power curve needed for this system was somewhat ungainly. Lacked efficiency. The problem then had been corrected to an extent by using one active coil and one "Dummy" coil in the housing. The passive, or "Dummy" coil simply reversed the polarity of the active coil's warp field, and therefore "fooled" the warp field into acting as though there were 2 nacelles. The made the power consumption rate of the early Averys and later Saladins much more satisfactory.


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wen enterprise removed the core into da blackhole it created HUGE explosion...bt how come when kelvin rammed into nadara, only small explosion... it still had the core right... should't the core explode?
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if u're talking about the red matter, when kelvin rammed into the narada, the red matter is on the narada. it's safe.

but when the jellyfish (spock's ship) rammed into the narada, it was destroyed. its destruction ignited the red matter, producing the blackhole.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 23 2009, 06:20 AM)

if u're talking about the red matter, when kelvin rammed into the narada, the red matter is on the narada. it's safe.

but when the jellyfish (spock's ship) rammed into the narada, it was destroyed. its destruction ignited the red matter, producing the blackhole.
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correction... i think the red matter was inside spocks ship all along.
when kelvin rammed narada, the red matter wasnt there.

25 years later when spock's ship came through the black hole, they captured the ship, spock and the red matter inside it. but the red matter had been inside spocks ship all along.

when young spock rammed the prime spocks ship into narada, the red matter was still inside and thus ignited when it crashed into narada.

wth is the red matter anyway. its just plain preposterous.. so much for sci-fi
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 22 2009, 12:20 PM)
i don't understand this part. how did scotty know that he needs to wait for future spoock and kirk on the ice planet?
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ May 22 2009, 04:24 PM)
huhu..this movie really best..so far the best movie (angel & lemon also) for year 2009
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who directed angel & lemon? some taiwan singer? laugh.gif

QUOTE(cruel_boy @ May 23 2009, 02:30 AM)
i dun understand with the kelvin design. in wiki its stated that according to Gene D's rule, all star trek ship must have paired warp engines... how come kelvin only has one?

wen enterprise removed the core into da blackhole it created HUGE explosion...bt how come when kelvin rammed into nadara, only small explosion... it still had the core right... should't the core explode?
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this was never really explained in any way as whenever there is a self destruct activated or ejected core.....it usually makes a big explosion but when the ships are destroyed as a whole this does not happen.

like when the enterprise came out of warp it had to fly thru alot of debris.....which doesn't make sense if u figure that destroying all the ships would mean that there would be alot of core explosions thus nothing much left doh.gif

QUOTE(sshahar9 @ May 23 2009, 11:41 AM)
correction... i think the red matter was inside spocks ship all along.
when kelvin rammed narada, the red matter wasnt there.

25 years later when spock's ship came through the black hole, they captured the ship, spock and the red matter inside it. but the red matter had been inside spocks ship all along.

when young spock rammed the prime spocks ship into narada, the red matter was still inside and thus ignited when it crashed into narada.

wth is the red matter anyway. its just plain preposterous.. so much for sci-fi
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Red matter is a fictional substance that appears in J.J. Abrams' 2009 film Star Trek and the lead-in comic book Star Trek: Countdown. The rare mineral decalithium is processed into red matter that creates a black hole when it comes in contact with nuclear matter, and is used in an attempt to avert an impending natural disaster, and to destroy a planet.

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Watched it ytday! So nais!!! xD ENjoyed it very much.
Krik look so man!!! Spock hair style damn cute.

Oh yea, not to forget that "wictor wictor" xD
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read the countdown prequel comic already ..the narada looks very different in there .lol
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ May 23 2009, 03:45 PM)
read the countdown prequel comic already ..the narada looks very different in there .lol
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not sure is there any non-star trek fans like me not really feel astonished by this version of star trek?!

i bought the tix cuz of JJ Abrams...And the trailer did bring out some new fashion look to me. That's why.

It turned out not really surprisingly me at all.. A pop-corn entertainment show, which can stay home and watch in DVD would be just fine, imo.

Anyway, i do really like the beastie boys car-chased part. That's the most hyped part to me. It makes me want to see more crazy stunning act in the show..

it doesn't created sparkles dat much after half an hour. And it went conventional and a classic revenge story mode.

I saw some audiences left the show after 1 hour.

I am going back to search my confidence on JJ Abrams in the lost series.

This won't be one of my best top 10 movie of the year. The action is not impactful enuff. There are not much outstanding elements to sell.

I appreciated the hardwork on visual side. In the end, story is still the key in a movie.

Why Harold is here?! Sorry dunno his real name. Just weird to see him in this movie. Is there any reason this actor is successed? He looks ordinary person and common acting to me. no offense.
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QUOTE(gafun @ May 19 2009, 12:22 AM)
Anybody caught the reference to admiral archer ?

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his poor beagle Porthos ended up in Scotty's experiments.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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still don't understand scotty part. how he ended up in the planet and wait for future spook and kirk to arrive.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 23 2009, 04:11 PM)
still don't understand scotty part. how he ended up in the planet and wait for future spook and kirk to arrive.
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he was also sort of marooned there.
the admiral sent him there for what scotty did to the dog.
but then never came back for him coz of what happen to the dog.
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oh...okay i see.
so in the end, there are actually two spook living in the present world??? one old spook and one young spook?
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ May 23 2009, 03:58 PM)
i've only read the first of four chapters.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ May 23 2009, 04:01 PM)
his poor beagle Porthos ended up in Scotty's experiments....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 23 2009, 04:28 PM)
oh...okay i see.
so in the end, there are actually two spook living in the present world??? one old spook and one young spook?
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spock not spook tongue.gif
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oh...okay i see.
so in the end, there are actually two spook living in the present world??? one old spook and one young spook?
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spock not spook.
but yes two spocks because of spock prime's ship was destroyed together with the narada.
plus the blackhole the red matter created was random.
even if there was still red matter there would be no way for them to control where/when they'll go.
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QUOTE(zenix @ May 23 2009, 03:11 PM)


Red matter is a fictional substance that appears in J.J. Abrams' 2009 film Star Trek and the lead-in comic book Star Trek: Countdown. The rare mineral decalithium is processed into red matter that creates a black hole when it comes in contact with nuclear matter, and is used in an attempt to avert an impending natural disaster, and to destroy a planet.

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thanks for the explanation... i know what it meant to do..
i just meant that its preposterous something of this sort could exist in reality.
something so tiny having huge amounts of power in it..
hell.. if they're so advanced they can utilize it to power cities and worlds...
anyhow,, what i mean is the idea that a single liquid can form a black hole..
would love to hear some theories on it..
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QUOTE(sshahar9 @ May 24 2009, 01:30 PM)
thanks for the explanation... i know what it meant to do..
i just meant that its preposterous something of this sort could exist in reality.
something so tiny having huge amounts of power in it..
hell.. if they're so advanced they can utilize it to power cities and worlds...
anyhow,, what i mean is the idea that a single liquid can form a black hole..
would love to hear some theories on it..
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its not preposterous considering humans can build destructive nuclear weapons based on small quantity of elements.

Star Trek a science fiction. Fiction based on science/scientific theory. As all fiction do, theories can be tweaked/expanded/exagerrated. I enjoyed the movie alot without thinking too deep into each and every single science they used and their "plausibility".





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QUOTE(sshahar9 @ May 24 2009, 12:30 PM)
thanks for the explanation... i know what it meant to do..
i just meant that its preposterous something of this sort could exist in reality.
something so tiny having huge amounts of power in it..
hell.. if they're so advanced they can utilize it to power cities and worlds...
anyhow,, what i mean is the idea that a single liquid can form a black hole..
would love to hear some theories on it..
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perhaps it has to do with the stability of the isotope.
like we have learned to use nuclear fission but not nuclear fusion.
when it comes to rare metals and substances it can get very very complex.
different allotropes of it will make it different.
e.g. carbon has two allotropes, one is diamond and one is graphite.
some appear on the periodic table some do not as they're a combination of a few.
some reactions are fusion based and some are fission based.

e.g. in knight rider a few grams of hafnium would make a very powerful bomb.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/intro/hafnium.htm

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 23 2009, 10:02 AM)
spock not spook.
but yes two spocks because of spock prime's ship was destroyed together with the narada.
plus the blackhole the red matter created was random.
even if there was still red matter there would be no way for them to control where/when they'll go.
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Well, Spock Prime does know how to slingshot around the sun. tongue.gif But I'd rather not think too much frankly.

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hmm interesting take there zenix...
ill just admit u know more than more than me in general science.
please elaborate further if you can on this theory if it does involve fusion/ fission of the sort.

i think what boggles me is that i just dont know the true nature of what the supposed red matter is... which is why its an easy escape for the story or a 'cheat' to move the story forward.

if just throwing ideas around, maybe its similar to the properties of a white star before it goes supernova or turning to a black hole. blah blah blah... i dont think our level of understanding currently can explain it. which is what makes the red matter more interesting, perplexing and for me atleast, preposterous. just coz we dont know what it actually is and how it interacts, etc.

alanyuppie, im well aware of the nuclear weapons man has produced and used. but its just back to the issue what is actually the red matter is.

a tiny drop can create a black hole that can devour a sun (if i remember correctly from the beginning of movie, for what its supposed to be used for). but then the whole vat of it creates the same size black hole when it crashes into narada. is there a limit to its size and how big it can go? why a 2d black hole and not spherical? why didnt create multiple black holes if it reacted independently, assuming it grow bigger with more of it. why not supermassize black holes? blah blah blah on and on...

what is this supposed red matter is that can create this black hole by fusing with nuclear power?

and yeah, science fiction can tweak or exaggerate theories but i didnt say i never enjoyed the movie.. i enjoyed it a lot.. but its just bugging me a bit about this red matter, what it actually is. how can it hold so much energy, rip apart space and time continuum. blah blah blah...

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QUOTE(sshahar9 @ May 24 2009, 09:16 AM)
hmm interesting take there zenix...
ill just admit u know more than more than me in general science.
please elaborate further if you can on this theory if it does involve fusion/ fission of the sort.

i think what boggles me is that i just dont know the true nature of what the supposed red matter is... which is why its an easy escape for the story or a 'cheat' to move the story forward.

if just throwing ideas around, maybe its similar to the properties of a white star before it goes supernova or turning to a black hole. blah blah blah... i dont think our level of understanding currently can explain it. which is what makes the red matter more interesting, perplexing and for me atleast, preposterous. just coz we dont know what it actually is and how it interacts, etc.

alanyuppie, im well aware of the nuclear weapons man has produced and used. but its just back to the issue what is actually the red matter is.

a tiny drop can create a black hole that can devour a sun (if i remember correctly from the beginning of movie, for what its supposed to be used for). but then the whole vat of it creates the same size black hole when it crashes into narada. is there a limit to its size and how big it can go? why a 2d black hole and not spherical? why didnt create multiple black holes if it reacted independently, assuming it grow bigger with more of it. why not supermassize black holes? blah blah blah on and on...

what is this supposed red matter is that can create this black hole by fusing with nuclear power?

and yeah, science fiction can  tweak or exaggerate theories but i didnt say i never enjoyed the movie.. i enjoyed it a lot.. but its just bugging me a bit about this red matter, what it actually is. how can it hold so much energy, rip apart space and time continuum. blah blah blah...
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u dont seem to grasp the whole idea of science fiction here.

when star trek introduced the tricorder back in 1960s, nobody could even perceive such things could ever existed. today, iphones could probably outperform the tricorders, which urges us to think what would a tricorder look like 100 years in the future?

if u look back, red matter is processed from decalithium (not nuclear power by the way). have u even bothered to look up decalithium, and if it actually exists? why not start there? biggrin.gif. star trek gave us quite a lot of things by imagining the unimaginable. that's the whole point. it's fairly safe to let certain details loose so that it could be filled in the future, just like the whole logic of a tricorder was probably totally out of this world in the 60s.
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I went "wooooo" everytime a recognizable character's name is introduced in the movie as a young person biggrin.gif

But I srsly LOL'd at the way Kirk takes over Spock as the captain of Enterprise tongue.gif
I thought he would've took like like, for example Spock is in an injury or something, not by something of being angered at tongue.gif

Though its still a funny thing to me, I see it as quite fitting since that particular scenario involves of showing Spock that he does have feelings, not just thinking everything logically thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 24 2009, 08:22 PM)
u dont seem to grasp the whole idea of science fiction here.

when star trek introduced the tricorder back in 1960s, nobody could even perceive such things could ever existed. today, iphones could probably outperform the tricorders, which urges us to think what would a tricorder look like 100 years in the future?

if u look back, red matter is processed from decalithium (not nuclear power by the way). have u even bothered to look up decalithium, and if it actually exists? why not start there? biggrin.gif. star trek gave us quite a lot of things by imagining the unimaginable. that's the whole point. it's fairly safe to let certain details loose so that it could be filled in the future, just like the whole logic of a tricorder was probably totally out of this world in the 60s.
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no.. i guess not fully.. i just understand in so far as much of nat geo that i watch. im not a scientist. haha.. so its best to talk in laymans terms... im not trying to make myself look smart here, but im opening up for debate on the merits of some stuff... not just accept it point blank.

no... i dont know what a tricorder is.. i dont watch trekkie series.. sorry. so probly cant talk much of their whole history and all their technology/theories.

decalitihium, no i did not know that.. maybe i missed it in this thread.. but it would be first time i heard it. is it a real mineral/element whatnot?

im no expert on star trek but if its strongly rooted in science as some people claim it, the fiction wont go too far off.

anyway, my points above and questions above remains, regarding what is red matter supposed to be, how its supposed to function etc. and the issues about black holes.

i made a boo-boo above, i think its the sun that dies out and either goes supernova or turn to a white dwarf star... and then somehow can turn to black hole.

i can actually deduce that red matter is not nuclear.. since supposedly its thrown off into nuclear reactions (the sun at beginning, and vulcans planet core later). it reacts to nuclear power.. or maybe just fire... coz i quite dont understand how spocks ship ramming into narada can trigger the black hole in absence of nuclear power/fire or whatever.. but then again i forgot what that huge laser making holes drilling planet is based on what power. blah blah blah...

i was thinking what is the nature of red matter. a big star that dies out can create black holes, but smaller stars dies out as white dwarfs. so its function, its essence is something that is similar to a huge star... but what? how certain are we that minerals or whatever that causes huge stars to turn to black holes? can we be certain thats what decalithium does? or isnt black holes created by big stars are partly if not all caused by the huge gravitational pull of the aforementioned star before it went bust? or is it something more .... is 'elemental' the word? is it huge chunks of gravity or whatever that creates a chain reaction with nuclear power?
so if a dying star dies, huge gravity is present and tries to absorb everything around it, and if strong enough it becomes a black hole. small star= small gravity= white dwarf.
so are we to presume that red matter creates the 'moment' where the nuclear fusion dries out, no more hydrogen to burn, and thus creates the environment for a black hole to exist.
what is the red matters true nature?

haha... anyhow.. this is fun... chill laa.. ur talking like i hit a nerve or something..
isnt this is what star trek or whatever science based shows are about? to get people interested in science?

do u have any thoughts on the matter regarding red matter?


Added on May 24, 2009, 10:47 pmbtw... i forgot to mentione another qualm regarding red matter..

why didnt it interact or combust or reacted to the black hole when it entered it... which gives more light to its nature and more questions too...

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hmm interesting take there zenix...
ill just admit u know more than more than me in general science.
please elaborate further if you can on this theory if it does involve fusion/ fission of the sort.

i think what boggles me is that i just dont know the true nature of what the supposed red matter is... which is why its an easy escape for the story or a 'cheat' to move the story forward.

if just throwing ideas around, maybe its similar to the properties of a white star before it goes supernova or turning to a black hole. blah blah blah... i dont think our level of understanding currently can explain it. which is what makes the red matter more interesting, perplexing and for me atleast, preposterous. just coz we dont know what it actually is and how it interacts, etc.

alanyuppie, im well aware of the nuclear weapons man has produced and used. but its just back to the issue what is actually the red matter is.

a tiny drop can create a black hole that can devour a sun (if i remember correctly from the beginning of movie, for what its supposed to be used for). but then the whole vat of it creates the same size black hole when it crashes into narada. is there a limit to its size and how big it can go? why a 2d black hole and not spherical? why didnt create multiple black holes if it reacted independently, assuming it grow bigger with more of it. why not supermassize black holes? blah blah blah on and on...

what is this supposed red matter is that can create this black hole by fusing with nuclear power?

and yeah, science fiction can  tweak or exaggerate theories but i didnt say i never enjoyed the movie.. i enjoyed it a lot.. but its just bugging me a bit about this red matter, what it actually is. how can it hold so much energy, rip apart space and time continuum. blah blah blah...
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any matter can go through a fusion or fission process.
extracting hydrogen from water is also a process of fission.
how batteries work is also a form of fusion.

fusion = one matter fusing with another to form another matter, and or energy.
fission = one matter splitting into to form another matter, and or energy.

thus red matter is a specially processed decalithium and must be stored in some special liquid.
if it FUSED with any other matter then it would create a black hole.
however, in its natural state as decalithium ore it wouldn't create a black hole.
just like how water isn't explosive like hydrogen eventhough it has hydrogen atoms.

however, your observation of how red matter in the movie follows the same line as me about the warp cores.

1 drop of red matter = black hole
spock prime ship explode and whole (probably) 10 litres of red matter pours out as droplets = only 1 black hole of almost equal size of 1 drop red matter black hole.

it should have been many black holes, however, my theory is that only ONE droplet reacted to create the blackhole.
other droplets reacting slower would be sucked into the first black hole before reacting.
then u say why not the smaller blackhole counter the big one to nullify?
well small not massive enough.
unless all the droplets react at the same time then will have multiple holes and all will cancel each other out.

the enterprise dump the warp cores into the blackhole yet still able to fly away with the help of the core exploding.
probably got reserve core coz impulse speed wouldn't do jack.


Added on May 24, 2009, 11:03 pmbut from my point of view this new star trek franchise is going to take abit more liberties with sci-fi than previous star trek movies/series did to make it more exciting.

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This isnt Star Trek movie..More like Spock Trek movie..

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Nice movie and entertaining.
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a minute amount of anti-matter that comes into contact with matter would nullify each other in a chain reaction and release a vast amount of energy. the amount of energy released would depend on the amount of anti-matter that comes in contact with matter.

red matter only becomes a black hole when it comes in contact with nuclear matter. so the size of the black hole would depends on how much contact occurred. so no matter if it's a drop or a whole ship of red matter, if there is only so much of nuclear matter that it could react with, it would still create the same size of blackhole.

what happens to the rest of the red matter? well, in theory, the center of the blackhole is a singularity. we dont know what happens to matter in a singularity. one possibility in this story is that it gets transported back in time, although in reality it's extremely unlikely that matter would retain its properties in a singularity.

i recommend doing a bit of reading about blackholes to understand its properties. dying stars arent the only thing that could create blackholes. it's all quantum mechanics.

i have no problems in suspending my disbelief over red matter. if u really wanna talk red matter, then i suggest starting with decalithium ores that power the ships. then venture into how the impulse engines work using powers derived from processed dilithium (not decalithium, mind u biggrin.gif). then go over the transporter and phasers and proton torpedoes.

there are lots of other things u should start questioning before u should even question about red matter, bcoz even to me red matter is quite bizarre to explain. it's the first time ever it has been used in science fiction.

by the way, tricorder is the gadget that looks like a flip-phone. i'm not sure if it's being used in this movie, but it was in earlier movies.
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nice answer...

but thats the thing bout sci-fi, you can make up answers by correlating stuff to one another, saying how it reacts etc. its not hard-science which is why one should not take it as such and just accept it.

i guess from your answer, this red matter idea is not exclusive to this movie, which i though it was.

i was going to go to the anti/ dark matter stuff of what starts a black hole, but then as you pointed out, there may be other ways for black holes to appear and no just by stars dying/blowing up.

but im not sure if we can call red matter as anti matter, as its clearly liquid and its origin is an ore= matter.
red matter interacting with nuclear is still in a 'matter' realm...

i just find it hard that a simple, still a matter, can cause a black hole. a huge monster of gravity power which when the star dies out, exists when there is a vacuum, or lack of activity. which begs the question, does anti-matter cause it?

anyway, u would just go back to red matter is bizarre, can u direct me to any materials online that can shed light on this red matter. also the part of what other things causes black holes / wormholes instead of exploding stars..

red matter, i think by the end of movie when spocks ship crashed into narada, the red matter broke free and just became volatile and unstable. without interacting with nuclear power... so which is which...
if it doesnt even need nuclear power, then nero drilling a hole through vulcans planet is just for show lar...
couldve just dropped a droplet of red matter on surface also would suffice.

also, if its not anti-matter, i think it should go bigger. regardless if it wasnt big enough, some of the smaller still growing black holes wouldve passed thru the wormhole possibly but still exist and still grow there, so it may either make multiple black holes lapping over each other in various time and location or as from what i understand from nat geo it can only go bigger. its like throwing a bucket of water and a glass of water together, but in the end you get the volume of both. (if we assume this red matter will create a black hole with wormhole like it did for spock) and another example, when the supposed andromeda (if im not mistaken) galaxy crashes with our milky way, the bigger andromeda will not cancel out milky ways black hole, but both would still gravitate to each other and form a bigger black hole.
so just 2 points to consider.

anyway, if we simply say this new movie will take a lot of liberties then it just means i may be right, some things are preposterous to begin with. its like making something up, just to fill up the gap or tie loose ends. it sounds nice but can it really work in reality, in the real universe? anyway good talk and points by all, i dont think theres a definite answer as yet. postulating that its like anti-matter is nice but would that really be the case. if its not, what other possibilities might there be?


Added on May 25, 2009, 10:32 amyeah... going into those phasers and stuff is a different (almost) subject altogether... not really interested in it. slightly more if not, just, interested with astronomy related stuff... so hope u dont mind i just ask about red matter all da way

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google is ur friend. use it.

red matter IS indeed exclusive to star trek universe. and what i said about it was not my own opinion, but rather reference from other trek websites that i couldnt be bothered to add here. just google it, u'll have no problem stumbling upon it. i repeatedly recommend reading on quantum mechanics bcoz it borrows a lot of concepts from there. ofcourse, it doesnt exist, neither does decalitihium or dilithium ores that power the starships.

u assume red matter is a simple matter. i assure u it's not. although its behaviour when in contact with other matters werent explained, but it's pretty clear it alone is a volatile material, which is why it's kept in a special containment chamber. if not, the crew of narada wouldve taken it out of the jellyfish and store it on board the narada.

explosions might some way ignite the red matter, but it was when it comes into contact with nuclear matter (not power, not energy, not radiation), it would produce a black hole. since the jellyfish was designed to inject the red matter into a sun, then it would be simple enough explanation that the jellyfish actually carries both red matter and nuclear material for producing a blackhole.

it's not entirely made up from air. the idea for such matters came from the realm of quantum physics, where matter can exist and cease to exist by a simple random event. matter does not behave in the way we commonly believe. read "schrodinger's cat", an idea of how the observer can influence the outcome of the existence of matter.

if u think about it, how the heck could an observer influence an object's existence? bizarre isnt it? all it takes is a google click and a few minutes of reading.



btw, ur analogy on blackholes behaving like adding water to more water isnt entirely accurate. here's a better analogy: to sustain fire, u need fuel and oxygen. if u have a vast amount of fuel but little oxygen, u wont create a BOOM, but a mere puff. u need more red matter and more nuclear matter to produce bigger blackholes.

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thanks for the info..

yep.. what i said regarding black holes is just regurgitating what is said from those nat geo shows... so i dont think i strayed any.. just mebe not as informed or as well-read... but it was in terms of black holes... not the red matter issue. ur analogy of coz fits coz thats the explanation given by them. u need more of nuclear matter to make it bigger.

still, my problem lies in that we still are not sure what is the mysterious black holes. most of my points above are in terms of real world science... not trekkie science...
scientists dont know whats in the singularity. wormhole is hypothesized. dont know what causes blackholes (or mebe i havent read or watched enough), even though it may be after effect of large stars exploding, but why does the blackhole appear? blah blah blah

still... my questions werent fully satisfied... coz im not convinced red matter can cause black holes if interacted with nuclear matter..
in trek universe, sure it can work, but in real life... well... thats what my beef is all along. if it existed in the real world, what does it do specifically.. well... if we knew, thatd mean humankind have cracked the secrets of black holes, its origin and ending... and i just dont think we're there yet in terms of understanding this 'force' called black holes.

i assume i will get the same response from u and this will go in circles. so i will give u da benefit of the doubt and try to read up on some things u mentioned.

btw... i did think of that jellyfish carrying along nuclear matter as well.. or atleast what i thought was easier to bring along nuclear power so can control where and when to ignite the black hole... no need get too close to the sun.. and no need to drill to the vulcans planet core... anyways...


Added on May 25, 2009, 3:55 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

read a bit bout it..
not really sure i can accept the part of multi-worlds...
its like all the multi-verse ideas...
is the universe inside a bubble. does a big bang occur outside our universe creating another universe..would a wormhole take us to another dimension/time/universe.. so on so forth.. which is right, if any is right? but these is all straying from the question of red matter that i posed ..


Added on May 25, 2009, 4:04 pmbtw,, i did not think red matter is a simple matter (if u meant by matter - as matter, or as an issue'

it would be complex which is why i asked the question how could it trigger or help cause the black hole. theres a whole flurry of questions for it.
does the red matter itself composed of vast magnetic or gravity energy? is it like a singularity or whatever that unleashes its vast gravitational energy once opened? or simply is it like a ballon filled with water that releases it once theres a leak.
or does red matter interect with nuclear matter and from those chain reactions itself/themselves, create the black hole.
or is the red matter interact with nuclear matter to artificially create the 'moment' or environment and is thus just a catalyst to create this moment where black holes may appear. simulating the conditions. so on and so forth.

im a visual guy.. i may not give u equations or mathematical terms or whatever but my questions are valid..
im reasking if the red matter existed in our universe, what would it actually do?
because to know that, would imply u know how to create a black hole, its essence, its origin, its force, its structure.. like what is gravity that cannot be touched but felt its tug on us...
black holes are still a mystery i think...


Added on May 25, 2009, 4:10 pmoh wait... u mentioned that bit with nuclear matter.. sure.. thats in trek universe and their explanation..
its like me saying i take a cup of hot milo and if i put in sugar, it will create a tornado or lightning ... it sounds preposterous but hey, if its in an imginary universe, this science and outcome can be possible.
so in real world terms, forget about trek universe. what would a red matter in real world be?

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if u wanna talk real world, there IS NO red matter. period. why push it? biggrin.gif

such matters cannot and does not exist.
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im trying to make discussion here dude...
just use imagination a bit..
like my questions above... its more to find out nature of black holes...all this issues with red matter..
u cant get answers without questions...
anyways.... i may just have too much free time tongue.gif

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first u said lets talk about real world. then u wanna imagine what it would be like.

come on, make up ur mind wink.gif.
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i thought it was the comunnicator which looked like the flip phone ? spock ws using it when he wanted get evryone of the planet ?

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if u wanna talk real world, there IS NO red matter. period. why push it? biggrin.gif

such matters cannot and does not exist.
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i thought it was the comunnicator which looked like the flip phone ? spock ws using it when he wanted get evryone of the planet ?
but deuterium exists .lol tongue.gif
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well, if u really wanna get into it, then yes, dilithium and decalithium (or rather deca-lithium) exists, but not the same material as referred to in star trek. same name, totally different material. some even speculated that the scientists who came up/found the new materials are indeed trekkies. they probably name their new material according to the stuffs on star trek shows biggrin.gif.
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well, if u really wanna get into it, then yes, dilithium and decalithium (or rather deca-lithium) exists, but not the same material as referred to in star trek. same name, totally different material. some even speculated that the scientists who came up/found the new materials are indeed trekkies. they probably name their new material according to the stuffs on star trek shows biggrin.gif.
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no need to get into science here , i just pointing a fact only tongue.gif
i guess the engineers @ motorola are kinda trekkies also . look at the old startac phone . lol . now if only someone would invent the hypospray from st , then nice .lol
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@sshahar9 - like i said before this new franchise of star trek is taking abit more liberties with sci-fi to make things more fast and action packed. yes the sci-fi isn't as watertight as it was in the older trek movies/series but i think if they were to make it watertight it would either be too long a movie or too boring a movie.

the new franchise is more fast paced and action orientated. as you can see from the amount of pummeling kirk suffered in the show.



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QUOTE(sshahar9 @ May 25 2009, 07:11 PM)
im trying to make discussion here dude...
just use imagination a bit..
like my questions above... its more to find out nature of black holes...all this issues with red matter..
u cant get answers without questions...
anyways.... i may just have too much free time  tongue.gif
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Black Holes has NOT YET BEEN FULLY UNDERSTOOD by humans. Any sci-fi movie/shows that is making it as a plot device USED their imagination too in expanding/enhancing/exagerrating its basic concept/theory, for the sake of entertainment, and putting in fictional elements with great powers that doesn't exist. By taking each and every bit of these elements and question its plausibility in real life is moot. There is NOT ENOUGH FACT to sustain the discussion.

imagine this:

present: 21st century
trek-era: 22nd century (or 23rd?)

Logically speaking, IT IS POSSIBLE to have new element with great powers discovered during the coming 2 centuries, and IT IS POSSIBLE to understand black holes even more to know it DOES happen like what's shown in this movie.





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first u said lets talk about real world. then u wanna imagine what it would be like.

come on, make up ur mind wink.gif.
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i am.. im imagining what would the red matter be in real world. im not saying it has to be in the form of red matter. im saying of its properties, what other things could resemble its functions or effects if any.
for example, what other things could possibly be like red matter which co-interacts with nuclear matter to become black hole.
or if the other possibility is that it just causes the vacuum environment after a huge star went kaput, what would it be. could it be dark / anti-matter? could it be something else.
im expanding the question and notion of red matter. it doesnt have to BE red matter specifically. like u can create steam from boiling water, or u can find and create steam from any other sources...

whats with all the kinda elitist/action attitude anyway, read up a few things wanna act so big shot, try to come up with something original. why don't cha.
i said red matter is preposterous in real world to begin with, in the end u backed it up saying its all made up science but rooted in current theories, possibilities and whatnot. but then i was expanding from the idea what would something similar to red matter be, and could it cause a black hole. hence the questions and few different theories of what other things it may be, not limiting to the a (red matter) + b (nuclear matter) route.

when i wondered bout the red matter, i didnt just stop at saying its preposterous.i actually tried to imagine what else could explain it or something close to it. the later stuff was on the question of what can cause black holes. maybe its the way i write, maybe its not too explicit but i wasnt just limiting my replies to red matter. more of the issue was the end effect the black hole. could red matter really do it, could it really exist and create a black hole in our universe. and then the various questions, how exactly does black hole forms? does red matter replicate anything from the theory. or anything else for that matter.. blah blah

read thru again my various posts if u want.

in the end, iprobably was going off topic talking about black holes, but thats what i was getting into.
simple terms, i dont believe red matter can cause black holes in our universe. and then i tried to imagine what other possibilities for black holes to appear. blah blah blah

id say try to keep up, but then its probly my writing and jumping here and there that confuses people tongue.gif


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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 26 2009, 09:46 AM)
Logically speaking, IT IS POSSIBLE to have new element with great powers discovered during the coming 2 centuries, and IT IS POSSIBLE to understand black holes even more to know it DOES happen like what's shown in this movie.
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well as azarimy has pointed out in trek universe it would make sense. and it could make sense in our universe if black hole has anything to do with matter.
yes, in our real world, when a huge star explodes it can turn to black hole but its an after-effect. not a direct cause of the hydrogen burning etc. i.e. it happens after theres no matter, not by matters 'fission-ing' or 'fusion-ing' etc.
its a huge gravity, some say its like a sinkhole to another universe or dimension or whatever.
it could be like u burning something in a closed bottle, only when the fire runs out and its low on pressure or whatever the top/ or whatever covers the top gets sucked inside and equalizes pressure of outside and inside bottle.
so a simple theory suggestion is it something similar? could the fire of nuclear burning and when its gone, the exodus of it creates a gap of some'thing', maybe matter, maybe gravity, or maybe a gap in the 'other' dimension and causes it to equalize itself in that space. or is it that each matter has mass and gravity but when the matter gets destroyed (hydrogen burned up), whats left is its gravity (energy maybe= and energy is not destroyed but transfered etc) that may or not be composed of anti-matter or something of the sort, and needs matter to be whole, so it sucks the matter around it in the form of black hole.. is that why positrons are emitted out from black holes?

yadda yadda yadda...

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everyone else seems to be so well read so give some ideas lar, promote healthy thinking... all just simply rely on what others said... only zenix replies and comments are unemotional, and un-condescending so i thank you for that.

my thinking is more like describing a scenario, saying a person crosses the street then got hit by a car and the car dented and the person flung out. mine is not so nitty gritty to explain each muscle that moves in the person, or the cars make and model.. anyhow i think most people get my point. i may not able to describe isotopes or fusion or the rotational angle of the earth and moon, but i can say that the earth orbits the sun and the moon orbits earth. simple. layman. terms.

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Wow, you just make beliefe there are alternate world for the trekie
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This movie is very interesting and I think we are getting closer to the reality of Star Trek day-by-day. I hope they will come out with a sequel.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 25 2009, 05:49 PM)
if u wanna talk real world, there IS NO red matter. period. why push it? biggrin.gif

such matters cannot and does not exist.
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Well look at it this way, what was once far fetch ideas in movies are somewhat reality today though not entirely. Well of course red matter does not exist but who knows in the next 50 years? Anything is possible.

Anyway this movie rocks man. Super cool for mild trekkie fans like me.
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Just saw Star Trek in the morning...afternoon see Terminator...i rate Star Trek better than Terminator....although I'm not a trekky (but i watch all its movies)..this was fresh and great 'human' actions....but sadly, it missed some very creative ideas on dealing and defeating enemies that made Star Trek soo watchable...more like intelligent movie....I think they will improve further...so far, its all thumbs up.
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actually IMHO they tuned down the nerd factor in this star trek for more action
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Just watched it again with a mate today who hates Star Trek with a passion. Needless to say, he was overly impressed with the show haha. This is 2nd time i watched in the cinema, the first was with the missus and we were both surprised to have found it very entertaining.

Not a big fan of Trek tho i tend to watch it moderately back when i was in Australia - there was just nothing else to watch at late night! But i am a fan of Firefly, so i've been waiting to watch a sci fi having the same kind of look and feel of the Firefly movie.

This particular film just gets it right imo. The images were vivid and iconic, love the blooming lights, and the film runs at good pace. The castings are brilliant, the actors are lively and entertaining. Think getting that dude Sylar from heroes is an act of genius.

Cant wait for the bluray!!
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actually IMHO they tuned down the nerd factor in this star trek for more action
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This show is a good opportunity for star trek to regain its long lost appeal from the public. And so far it is excelling at that.

I think older trekkers should just be glad that this movie is able to do that.

For me Star trek has always been about the tv series, not the movies. I really hope they'll create a new series soon!
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That was a big problem of TNG, rarely of TOS
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they so easily just get rid of vulcan just like that doh.gif ...

as a movie its fine ... quite exciting too. got their funny moments and old trekkers sure laugh at thoe things that remind them of the past. scotty is that all you can do? she giving it all she can !! ... lol

spock spoke to kirk .. no matter what i say you will just ignore .. lol so classic .. tongue.gif
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So when the BD will be released?
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sorry... what is BD?
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The release of Star Trek (2009) BD is on Nov 17, 2009, same day as the DVD release.
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so the BD release and the dvd release contains the extra scenes cut from the film right?
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BD's Special Features

Disc 2

To Boldly Go: Taking on the world's most beloved science fiction franchise was no small mission. Director J.J. Abrams, writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, producer Damon Lindelof, and executive producer Bryan Burk talk about the many challenges they faced and their strategy for success.
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+ Red Shirt Guy
+ The Green Girl
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Casting: The producers knew their greatest task was finding the right cast to reprise these epic roles. The cast, for their part, talk about the experience of trying to capture the essence of these mythic characters. The piece concludes with a moving tribute to Leonard Nimoy.
A New Vision: J.J. Abrams' vision was not only to create a Star Trek that was a bigger, more action-packed spectacle, but also to make the spectacle feel real. Every aspect of production--from unique locations to the use of classic Hollywood camera tricks--was guided by this overall objective.
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Starships (BD-exclusive): Abrams and production designer Scott Chambliss were careful to pay tribute to the design of the original Enterprise, but they also wanted to make it futuristic and cool for a modern audience. This chapter focuses on the unique stories behind the creation of the film's starships.
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+ Warp Explained
+ Paint Job
+ Bridge Construction Accelerated
+ The Captain's Chair
+ Button Acting 101
+ Shuttle Shuffle
+ Narada Construction Accelerated
Aliens: Designers Neville Page and Joel Harlow talk about the hurdles they faced creating new alien species, recreating the Romulans and Vulcans, and designing the terrifying creatures on Delta Vega for the new Star Trek.
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+ Big-Eyed Girl
+ Big Bro Quinto
+ Klingons
+ Drakoulias Anatomy 101
Planets (BD-exclusive): From the frozen landscape of Delta Vega to the desert plains of Vulcan, Scott Chambliss and the art department had a number of radically different planets to create. Abrams' desire to shoot on real locations whenever possible led the production team to a number of strange and surprising locations.
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+ Extra Business
+ Confidentiality
Props and Costumes (BD-exclusive): Property master Russell Bobbitt had the unique challenge of designing props that were both true to the original series and pertinent to today's technology. Likewise, costume designer Michael Kaplan talks about how he designed costumes that paid homage to what came before yet were relevant and timeless.
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+ Klingon Wardrobe
Ben Burtt and the Sounds of Star Trek (BD-exclusive) : When famed sound designer Ben Burtt was hired to create sounds for the first Star Wars film, he took his inspiration from the original "Star Trek" series. Burtt jumped at the opportunity to pay tribute to the sounds that sparked his career with the sounds he created for the new Star Trek.
Score: As a fan of the original series, composer Michael Giacchino embraced the challenge of creating new music for Star Trek while preserving the spirit of Alexander Courage's celebrated theme.
Gene Roddenberry's Vision (BD-exclusive): J.J. Abrams, Leonard Nimoy, previous Star Trek writers and producers, and scientific consultant Carolyn Porco describe and commend the optimistic and enduring vision of Gene Roddenberry.
Nine deleted scenes with optional commentary
Starfleet Vessel Simulator (BD-exclusive):Explore extensive data on the U.S.S. Enterprise and the Romulan ship, the Narada. Submerse yourself in breathtaking 360 views and close-ups and review detailed tech information.
Gag Reel: Bloopers featuring the entire principal cast.

DVD's Special Features

Disc 2:

Digital Copy

Deleted Scenes with Optional Commentary

Spock Birth

Klingons Take Over Narada

Young Kirk, Johnny and Uncle Frank

Amanda and Sarek Argue After Spock Fights

Prison Interrogation and Breakout

Sarek Gets Amanda

Dorm Room and Kobayashi Maru (original version)

Kirk Apologizes to the Green Girl

Sarek Sees Spock

To Boldly Go— Taking on the world’s most beloved science fiction franchise was no small mission. Director J.J. Abrams, writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, producer Damon Lindelof, and executive producer Bryan Burk talk about the many challenges they faced and their strategy for success.

Casting— The producers knew their greatest task was finding the right cast to reprise these epic roles. The cast, for their part, talk about the experience of trying to capture the essence of these mythic characters. The piece concludes with a moving tribute to Leonard Nimoy.

Aliens— Designers Neville Page and Joel Harlow talk about the hurdles they faced creating new alien species, recreating the Romulans and Vulcans, and designing the terrifying creatures on Delta Vega for the new Star Trek.

Score— As a fan of the original series, composer Michael Giacchino embraced the challenge of creating new music for Star Trek while preserving the spirit of Alexander Courage’s celebrated theme.
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damn... dat ship statue is damn awesome lah wei...
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Received mine this morning. biggrin.gif - My first bluray buy.

Pass through custom on 25th of November, delivered today which is 1st of December, slow to arrive but better than never... tongue.gif - Mine's only RM 340++ in total.


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Did anyone noticed that Kal Penn (Kumar) was in the movie too. He was in 1 scene in Star Trek. He was a unknown ensign on the NCC 1701 bridge when Kirk ran into the bridge with Bones.

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it wasnt him. get the blue ray and pause it, and u'll see it's not kal penn wink.gif.
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I’ll probably be waiting a long time to hear that Ken Loach or Joe Swanberg is looking into 3D for their next production, but it seems that stereography really has caught on with franchise-type pictures, genre films and so on. Over the last few weeks there’s been explicit discussion of an ‘Avatar effect’, a redoubled interest in the form from the studios looking, jaws dead on the floor, at the box-office receipts for Cameron’s latest.

Is this perceived effect real? It seems it will be, and I’m sure that seems to be no surprise if you think of Hollywood as cash grabbing. But is it really the money men driving the decision to go 3D? Might it not be the creatives?

Bryan Singer has reportedly requested New Line allow his next picture Jack the Giant Killer be shot in 3D. The discussion is apparently still ongoing. It’s the pen hovering over the checkbook that’s hesitating here, not the artist.

The New York Times say that their sources spoke “on condition of anonymity because of studio policy”. When it comes to Paramount, however, they are able to cite Katie Martin Kelley directly. She says that the final decision on whether or not Transformers 3 and/or Star Trek 2 will be shot in 3D had been made. Here’s the fullest statement on Trek given in the article:

Paramount executives have already begun debating whether to shoot the next film in 3-D, even if that increases the cost and production difficulty, according to one person who was briefed on the talks.

I reported yesterday that the debate over stereography for Transformers 3 was still ongoing. It seems to be that Michael Bay has already said he doesn’t like 3D and is now sticking to his guns, whether or not he’s changed his mind at all. My money is on him losing the fight and issuing some sort of back-pedal statement on his official site - and before long too.









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"We just thought it would be fun... to go Gorn.

"Yes, we have some ideas about that. But it is obviously in the very early stages so it's not something that... we can point to."

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It’s not concrete, and it doesn’t provide any substantial information, but hell, it has to do with the “Star Trek” sequel, which is good enough for me. In a New York Times article about iPads, a topic that I find almost as interesting as accounting seminars, there is the teeniest, tiniest little hint about a potential new character that may accompany Captain James T. Kirk and the crew of the Starship Enterprise into deep space on their next adventure.

   
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[Robert] Orci, meeting with the producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk, and his fellow writer Alex Kurtzman, jump-started the discussion with an iPad slide show, showing stills from the first film, snapshots of potential locations and a photo of a suggested actress for one of the roles. On the woman’s photo, he had used his iPad to paint on a Vulcan ear.


Is this a suggestion or something more definite? Will this be a new character, like Nero in the first film, or will it introduce us to a younger version of someone we’re already familiar with? Hero or villain? Really there are more questions than answers, and like I said, there isn’t any actual substance to this news, but it is enough to get me thinking about the “Star Trek” sequel, which alone automatically generates a small degree of excitement.

Abrams and company are set to start filming next year with their eye on a June 29, 2012 release. So at least we’ll get to see “Star Trek” on the big screen again before that pesky Mayan apocalypse.

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Hehe, you brought the thread up. Am not a big fan of Star Trek but i just love the latest JJ Abram's Star Trek.
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Yesterday we reported a little hint about the potential villain in J.J. Abram’s “Star Trek” sequel. It was barely news, little more than an idea really. There have also been rumblings and speculation that Khan will make a return. Badass Digest has learned a couple more concrete things on the “Star Trek” front.

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Khan will not be the villain. You would think this would go without saying, but people keep speculating. In fact, my source says that the film won’t be focused on a traditional ‘villain’ type at all.
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The story will focus on a classic “Trek” character. And when I say classic, I mean a character who appeared in season one of the original series, when Gene Roddenberry was in charge.


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It’s definitely a character that will make fans of “TOS” excited. Think along the lines of Harry Mudd or Trelane or Gary Mitchell or the Talosians or the Horta. Actually it’s one of those that I named.
When asked for more clarification the source just laughed.

So there you have it. More cryptic tidbits about the “Star Trek” sequel to feed the rumor mill and create hearsay. While this doesn’t really tell you much, before long all of these little details are going to come together and form like Voltron to give a clearer picture of what the movie may or may not be about. Until then, speculate wildly, my pretties!

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Their unnamed source went on to say,


When asked for more clarification the source just laughed.

So there you have it. More cryptic tidbits about the “Star Trek” sequel to feed the rumor mill and create hearsay. While this doesn’t really tell you much, before long all of these little details are going to come together and form like Voltron to give a clearer picture of what the movie may or may not be about. Until then, speculate wildly, my pretties![/quote]
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Interesting

I'm currrently rewatching Star Trek TOS, and it so happens that I just finished watching Space Seed (1967) where Ricardo Montalban first took on the role of Khan in Star Trek.

It is very interesting that in the said episode, it ended with Khan being exiled to a barren planet to start anew, and he was positive about it.

And in the Second Star Trek movie, the exile took it's toll and Khan was driven to have his revenge on Captain Kirk...

Also interesting that Earth in the 1990's had a Eugenics War in which perfect man (and women) took to space to start a new colony of Perfect Men, with Khan as their leader!!

So we are the survivors of an Eugenics Wars??!! :lol
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They should make star trek a tv series the movie came out in 2009 and sequel in 2012 a 3 year wait is too long sad.gif most of the actors have a lot of free time also hehe...
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In an interview with Hero Complex, prolific movie writers/TV producers Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci talked about their approach to the second entry in their “Star Trek” reboot, which is expected sometime in 2012 with J.J. Abrams back behind the director’s chair. Of course, Abrams isn’t officially confirmed to direct yet, but it’s expected that he will be back. Probably.

 
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Alex Kurtzman: Well, we have broken the story, which is very exciting. I think one of the weird challenges that we’re facing on this one is that in many ways, with the first movie, I don’t think people knew what to expect, so when we were in the writing process, Bob and I really spent our time going to things that we loved about “Trek” and it was a very unfiltered process. It felt intimate and small. There weren’t a lot of voices other than [producer] Damon [Lindelof], J.J. and [executive producer] Bryan Burke. Now, that first movie has come up and did well and everyone wants to know what happens next. We didn’t have that pressure, exactly, on the first one. That said, part of what we have to do is listen to it all, ask a lot of questions about what people’s expectations are — and then let all of that go when we sit down to write. We need to find our way back to the same kind of vibe that we had when we wrote the first one: What do we want to see here? What moved us about “Trek”? Where can we go from where we left off?

    Robert Orci: One of the big challenges is all of the characters are together now. A prequel is a pain in the butt, but one of the nice little advantages was that you get to meet the characters as you go through the story and they get to meet each other. That’s fun. We don’t that luxury of not having the entire family there together at the start of the story. So now you want the character stories to be good for everybody but also not just be there to be stories but also fit into the plot and be organic. We’re looking at a lot of the old episodes for inspiration, still. Whereas the last movie was all about breaking free from “Star Trek” and its canon, now that we can do whatever we want, we still want it to feel like good ol’ “Star Trek” even though it’s a new story.


Read the rest of their thoughts over at HC.

I have to admit, when I was watching the first “Star Trek”, I had mixed feelings. I’m by no means a Trekkie. I mean, I don’t own any Star Trek merchandise whatsoever, and in fact, the only thing I do own that has “Star Trek” on it is a couple of documentaries on the culture of Trekkies called “Trekkies”.

But it didn’t take me long to warm up to the first reboot, especially when I accepted that once they opened the whole thing with a time travel angle, everything else that followed was essentially a “parallel world” storyline. And if you’ve watched any amount of “Star Trek”, you know that parallel universes, alternate dimensions, etc are a mainstay of the show. So, approached in that regard — that this “rebooted universe” is a completely different universe, and not the “original universe” of Trek that you’re used to from all the TV shows and other movies — Abrams’ “Star Trek” is pretty good, wild entertainment.

Having said that, expect Trek back in 2012.

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Here’s a great example of just how uncreative Hollywood can be. J.J. Abrams recently stated that he has yet to see the screenplay for Star Trek 2 and that, without seeing the screenplay, he won’t commit to directing the picture. So – as of this moment – he is not directing the film. Despite that, in a new interview with Vulture, Abrams admits Paramount has already asked him to shoot the film in 3D. That’s not to say that it will be shot in 3D, whether Abrams directs or not, just that it’s been suggested very early in the process.

A film should be the creative, collected vision of all those involved. But when studios are suggesting 3D without even knowing who the director of the film is, it certainly feels like they’re just grabbing for those extra few dollars per ticket. Read J.J’s quote about this and more after the jump.

In the interview with Vulture, Abrams admits that Paramount asked him to shoot the film in 3D and followed up by saying this:

I have nothing against 3-D in theory. But I’ve also never run to the movies because something’s in 3-D. [As for Trek], as soon as I read the script, if it says, ‘Somebody pushes a weapon toward the camera in a menacing way,’ and we think, ‘That’d be better in 3-D!’… I dunno. What do you wanna see? 2-D or 3D?

The journalist said they didn’t care. Abrams continued:

I’m a big fan of whip pans, which is very hard to do in 3-D. You know, when I was in New York fifteen years ago, and I sort of had the flu, I remember turning the TV on. There were these kids in a very dark, kind of muddy movie that was on a local channel, talking about making out. Then you cut to them walking in the forest, and somebody had a paddleball, and they were doing it right to the camera. It was like this weird, experimental Fellini movie. I was like, “What the f*** is this movie?” And it was Friday the 13th Part 3 in 3-D — without sex, violence, or 3-D! It was genius.

Like Abrams suggests, if a film is developed, written and thought of as a visual, three dimensional story, then by all means, make the movie in 3D. But it really bothers me to think that 3D isn’t being thought of as a creative choice, but a financial one. In all probability, Paramount is just assuming Abrams will direct and that’s why they asked him. But Abrams isn’t stupid. He knows 3D is popular right now. He should be the one suggesting 3D to Paramount, not the other way around. It simply doesn’t feel as organic.

Warner Brothers took the first step in honoring the viewer when it comes to 3D when they canceled the 3D release of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part One. But if other studios don’t follow suit and treat 3D with respect, it’s just going to ruin a whole bunch of otherwise good movies.


Do you feel that 3D is becoming less creative and more financial? And do you think Star Trek 2 should be in 3D or will you differ to Abrams, if and when he decides to direct?
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With all the TV shows and movies and other creative ventures that he’s dipping his grubby little fingers in, it’s any wonder J.J. Abrams has even found the time to commit to directing another “Star Trek” movie at all, much less one that won’t even be released for another 2 years.

But commit he has, and Paramount has now officially slotted the film, to be shot in 3D, for May 17, 2013. That would put the untitled “Star Trek” reboot sequel right after Marvel’s “Iron Man 3″ and Guillermo Del Toro’s sci-fi monster movie “Pacific Rim”, but would beat Zack Snyder’s “Man of Steel” to the big screen by a month.

The 2013 date is new, with Paramount having set a June 29, 2012 release date earlier. Apparently Abrams wasn’t ready by them. Now that he’s ready, Abrams will direct from a script by Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof, with all the castmembers expected back.

Here’s hoping the 3D trend dies by 2013, though.

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“Star Trek 12″, aka “Star Trek 2″, aka “J.J. Abrams’ Untitled Star Trek Sequel” — whatever you want to call it, the film has cast its first new face in the form of Alice Eve (“She’s Out of My League”).

Word is that Eve beat out fellow Brit Hayley Atwell (“Captain America: The First Avenger”) and Aussie Teresa Palmer (“I am Number Four”) for the cushy gig, and will be playing a new character that will be introduced into the series.

Benicio del Toro is also believed to still be up for the sequel’s unknown bad guy.

Abrams will return to direct from a script by Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci and Damon Lindelof, with Paramount eyeing a May 17, 2013 release date for the 3D film. As per usual for an Abrams project, no one beyond the writers/producers know anything about the storyline.

Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, and Zoe Saldana are also expected back for the second go-round.



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If so, that would be all sorts of awesome.

According to Latino Review, the “Usual Suspects” alumni will portray Khan in J.J. Abrams’ follow-up to his wildly popular “Star Trek” reboot. The aforementioned villain, of course, was portrayed by Ricardo Montalban in “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan”, which is really the only older “Star Trek” movie I can stomach. If anyone can bring the intensity required to make this role work, it should be Del Toro. This news is actually more rumor than fact, so expect the Hollywood machine to deny then confirm, deny then confirm several times before finally revealing the truth. Regardless of whether or not this late-night tidbit is fact or fiction, it’s still fun to pretend.

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Peter Weller is a certified cinematic badass, and his participation in any project automatically increases its coolness quotient by several remarkable degrees. And while little is known about who Weller will portray in upcoming feature, it’s still all sorts of awesome that he’s officially signed on to co-star in J.J. Abrams’ upcoming sequel to his hit sci-fi reboot. Rumors started swirling this weekend that Benicio Del Toro is being courted for the role of Khan, but nothing has been confirmed as of this writing. Production is expected to begin early next year.

“Star Trek 2″ is tentatively scheduled for release on May 17th, 2013.

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Let’s face it, getting someone like Benicio Del Toro to star in a “Trek” movie as the villain would be awesome. Del Toro chewing scenery as a Trek baddie would be so badass, it defies the very definition of badass. So yeah, people are interested, and I can’t say as I blame them.

So, is Del Toro playing Kahn in J.J. Abrams’ “Star Trek” sequel or not? Depends on who you ask, apparently.

After reports surfaced last week that Del Toro was very much playing a villain in the untitled “Trek” sequel, and that said villain would in all likelihood be Kahn, today brings news that he might not be, after all.

On Friday, Hitfix got in touch with Abrams himself, and asked him about the Del Toro as Kahn rumors. Abrams’ response was short and sweet:

   
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Not true.


Well, that was to the point.

So, Del Toro isn’t playing Kahn? But Kahn is in the movie, right? And Del Toro is in negotiations to play someone in the film? Well, he was, anyway.

Vulture now reports that an insider tells them that Del Toro was in negotiations to play someone big in the sequel, but that the deal fell throw last week due to money issues. Basically, he wanted more than they wanted to pay him. No doubt Abrams coming out and publicly saying that he wanted Del Toro in the movie probably convinced Del Toro’s peopel to jack up the price a tad.

This, according to Vulture, was on a Wednesday. Abrams’ statement to Hitfix was on a Friday of last week. Vulture still insists the villain will be Kahn, but it just won’t be played by Del Toro.


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Now that Benicio Del Toro has failed to reach a deal with Paramount and J.J. Abrams, the director is searching for a replacement villain, with “Carlos’s” Edgar Ramirez (below) and “Colombiana’s” Jordi Molla (left) in the mix, though Ramirez is said to be the frontrunner for the role.

Apparently finding the right actor to play the sequel’s villain is now a matter of some urgency, with production on Abrams’ untitled “Star Trek” film scheduled to start up in January for what is expected to be a whopping 6-month shoot. It’s urgent enough that Ramirez is said to be prepping for an audition via Skype sometime this week, which is, I have to say, a new one for me. Can you really tell if someone can act through Skype?

While no one is revealing who the two actors are testing for, let’s face it, it’s Khan. Isn’t it obvious by now? What does Del Toro, Ramirez, and Molla have in common? They’re all of Latin descent, just like Ricardo Montalban, who played the original Khan in 1982′s “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan”. So if the villain isn’t Khan, then that’s one hell of a coincidence.

A decision, we’re told, should be made by the end of the month, possibly even this weekend.

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While no one is revealing who the two actors are testing for, let’s face it, it’s Khan. Isn’t it obvious by now? What does Del Toro, Ramirez, and Molla have in common? They’re all of Latin descent, just like Ricardo Montalban, who played the original Khan in 1982′s “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan”. So if the villain isn’t Khan, then that’s one hell of a coincidence.


Bullshit. The other thing they have in common is a darker Mediterranean complexion, which could also mean they're playing a Klingon.

Hairy, didn't I tell you to stop getting you info from Beyond Hollywood?

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Bullshit. The other thing they have in common is a darker Mediterranean complexion, which could also mean they're playing a Klingon.

Hairy, didn't I tell you to stop getting you info from Beyond Hollywood?
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Besides - its their own opinion and what they think. True or not can be use to debate...

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Good to know that even Mr. Secret Agent Man J.J. Abrams isn’t above trying to squeeze a few extra bucks out of you by converting his films into 3D and charging a little bit more. Talking to MTV, Abrams has confirmed that he will begun shooting the untitled “Star Trek” sequel sometime next month in 2012, with sets for the film still in the process of being built, and that the movie will be shot in 2D and then converted in post to 3D.

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We’re shooting on film, 2-D, and then we’ll do a good high-end conversion like the ‘Harry Potter’ movie and all that. Luckily, with our release date now we have the months needed to do it right because if you rush it, it never looks good.


He also says they’re talking about shooting the film in IMAX, but that seems like a non-starter if he can’t even shoot the movie in 3D in the first place.

By the way, Abrams still refuses to acknowledge that Khan is the sequel’s villain, which seems a bit silly at this point. He doesn’t deny it, he just doesn’t confirm it. But not denying it basically confirms it, since if Khan wasn’t in the movie, he could easily dismiss it and move on. But he doesn’t, so … yes, Khan will be the film’s villain.

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The “Trek” sequel is getting mighty British of late. Previously, British lovely Alice Eve was cast in the movie, and now she can add two of her fellow countrymen “castmembers”.

British actors Benedict Cumberbatch (with a name like that, you just KNOW he has to be British) and writer/director/actor Noel Clarke have both landed undisclosed roles in J.J. Abrams’ upcoming “Star Trek” sequel.

Clarke is said to be playing “a family man with a wife and young daughter.” Well, that beats playing a single guy with no wife and young daughter, I guess.

Meanwhile, Cumberbatch is said to be playing the film’s villain. In fact, Cumberbatch’s villain is said to be the same role that Edgar Ramirez recently auditioned for. Which is weird, because I think most people always assumed Ramirez was auditioning to replace Benicio Del Toro as Khan, who has long been rumored to be the sequel’s chief villain. But Cumberbatch sure doesn’t look very “Khan”-ish. I mean, make-up can only do so much, right? (That’s Cumberbatch to the right of the pic below, by the way).

In any case, Clarke is best known to British movie watchers as an actor, as well as the writer/director of “4.3.2.1″ and “Kidulthood”. Cumberbatch, of course, is famous for playing Sherlock Holmes in the BBC’s rebooted “Sherlock” TV series, currently in its second season. Or, er, series, as they call it Across the Pond. He was also recently in Steven Spielberg’s “War Horse”. And no, he was not the horse.

Abrams’ untitled “Star Trek” sequel, meanwhile, is scheduled to go into warp May 17, 2013.

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Sherlock plays baddie in Star Trek? I WANT TO WATCH THIS! laugh.gif
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"Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Spock"?

The first photos from the set of the sequel to 2009's "Star Trek" have leaked, and from what we can see it looks like it will be just as action-packed as its predecessor.  What's more, the shots give us the first look at the villain from the film currently in production.

The photos show Zachary Quinto and Zoe Saldana returning to the roles of Spock and Uhura, along with new cast member Benedict Cumberbatch, who plays their still-unnamed adversary.  The actors were photographed while they rehearsed and shot a fight scene on a large exterior set in front of a green screen (the background will be added in later digitally).

Benedict Cumberbatch is a British actor who broke out playing the lead role in "Sherlock," the BBC's modern-day Sherlock Holmes series.  In 2011, he appeared in two critically acclaimed films: "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" opposite Gary Oldman, and Steven Spielberg's Oscar-nominated "War Horse."  It had originally been announced that Benicio del Toro would be the bad guy in the new "Star Trek," but after he dropped out of the project Cumberbatch was cast in his place.

Little is known about the character Cumberbatch will play, but we can gather some clues from the photos.  He appears to be wearing a black Starfleet shirt like Kirk wore in the first movie before he was made an officer.  He's apparently strong enough to tussle with Spock, but his rounded ears would indicate he's not a Vulcan.  And it looks like he made Uhura mad enough to blast him with her phaser (presumably set to stun, not to kill).

Director J.J. Abrams and the cast from the last movie are all returning for the next installment, but it will not beam into theaters until May of 2013.

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The teaser is out!



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The teaser is out!



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Hey, where's the Khan? Title of Star Trek sequel ‘Into the Darkness'

http://sciencefiction.com/2012/09/09/star-...-into-darkness/

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After months of referring to J.J. Abrams’ sequel to ‘Star Trek’ as ‘Star Trek 2,’ Star Trek 12,’ the untitled ‘Star Trek’ sequel, it seems as there may finally be a title for the film. While not yet official, TrekMovie is reporting that sources close to the movie have confirmed that the previous untitled sequel will be called ‘Star Trek into Darkness.’

One thing noticeable to quite a few people about the title is the absence of a colon which has been prevalent in the past ‘Star Trek’ feature films. Historically, ‘Star Trek’ films have not done well overseas in non-English speaking markets, so Paramount has been testing a number of title possibilities to find something that would work worldwide. While the title gives no indication as to what the film will be about, it does coincide what Zachary Quinto and Chris Pine have said about the movie being bolder and having to deal with some serious issues.

The promotional team for ‘Star Trek Into Darkness’ is still working out how to officially unveil the new title and some think it will some soon in the form of a teaser poster or image.

Now that a title has been released, here’s hoping that a teaser will soon follow and Trekkers will soon find out the identity of the mysterious villain that Benjamin Cumberbatch is playing.

So what do you think of the title ‘Star Trek into Darkness?’

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Hey, where's the Khan? Title of Star Trek sequel ‘Into the Darkness'

http://sciencefiction.com/2012/09/09/star-...-into-darkness/

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That poster look so kuul!
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Nice poster... biggrin.gif The trailer will be attached to non-IMAX screenings of "The Hobbit" and first 9-minutes would screen exclusively with IMAX 3D prints of "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" on December 14th.
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this gonna be epic
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If someone can confirm that Cumberbatch is in the 9 minute preview, let us know. I'll run to IMAX 3D for that.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 6 2012, 08:39 PM)
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"Wrath of Khan (1982)" vs "Into The Darkness (2012)"
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 6 2012, 08:43 PM)
1:03... Spock

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"Wrath of Khan (1982)" vs "Into The Darkness (2012)"
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Here's something interesting - Spock wears the blue uniform, the other was black... so...

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Or I could be wrong... but

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I am gonna watch this for the story, and Benedict Cumberbatch's performance smile.gif
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Zachary Quinto vs Benedict Cumberbatch! my 2 favorite actor
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AH feck. Cumberbatch is teased in the 9 minute Prologue. DAMMIT.
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first thought after seeing this pic? looked really familiar right? lol
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Now match that with Spock's "infamous" scene.
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The plot thickens...

Benedict Cumberbatch as... JOHN HARRISON?

Now, who the hell is John Harrison?!?!?!? shocking.gif
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The plot thickens...

Benedict Cumberbatch as... JOHN HARRISON?

Now, who the hell is John Harrison?!?!?!?  shocking.gif
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now that's definitely intriguing, summer 2013 is shaping up pretty good with IM3, MoS, and now THIS....
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Nice poster...  biggrin.gif  The trailer will be attached to non-IMAX screenings of "The Hobbit" and first 9-minutes would screen exclusively with IMAX 3D prints of "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" on December 14th.
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Since our censorship board censored the 9-minute tease of Star Trek before the Hobbit, will this movie be entirely banned over here?
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I really wonder what could the content be in the 9-minute preview that would make them want to remove it altogether. It's not like it's 18+ or something, and "The Hobbit" was PG-13, it would make more sense if they removed the 9-minute preview because it was PG-13 while the main film was 'U'.
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Dec 15 2012, 03:36 PM)
Yup originally saw this in batman when they got joker. Second time was in skyfall when they got Javier.
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http://astsadi.deviantart.com/art/Handstal...t-VII-342327868

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At what?

"Everything."
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Awesomeness is indescribable... come on J.J !
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this what we call epic.cannot wait!!

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Keeps getting better. The 'colours' are mesmerizing. tongue.gif

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Love this poster. Yet another must watch 2013 film.
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Can I haz the villain win, pleez? tongue.gif Too cool to lose. That voice... ohmy.gif
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To those who are interested to catch it in IMAX 3D one week before it's release.
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hopes this not disappointing like IM3.not fans of Star Trek.but after saw 2009 reboot,definitely cannot wait for this.
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Love this poster. Yet another must watch 2013 film.
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This really feels like a blown up Iron Man 3 poster. laugh.gif

Then again, the first poster was based on TDKR. So.... whistling.gif

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i heard they wanna censor many parts of this movie but why?
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john harrison's ship will be called USS Vengeance

http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/23/exclusive-...-into-darkness/
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john harrison's ship will be called USS Vengeance

http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/23/exclusive-...-into-darkness/
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