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post May 1 2009, 07:49 PM

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where did you watch it?
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post May 2 2009, 08:08 PM

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then how did the mod watch it? hmm.gif
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post May 6 2009, 03:17 PM

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because malaysians hype Wolverine more
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post May 6 2009, 11:50 PM

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eh dont equate Bay with Abrams.

btw it's up to 41 reviews at RT, still 100%.
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post May 7 2009, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ May 6 2009, 11:59 PM)
i havent seen anything from Abrams that i actually like.

this might be the first,judging from the reviews hmm.gif
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I greatly enjoyed both M:I:II and Cloverfield for what they are. He is by no means great yet, but he's still new.
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post May 7 2009, 09:54 PM

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I'm one of those trek noobs. Never seen a single episode of the series, and only watched First Contact when I was a kid. This was awesome. The cast is fantastic, each character with his/her own distinctive swagger. The plot is frenetic, paced at warped speed and never slowing down, never ever having a boring moment. The humour is spot on. The visuals are good. And the whole thing provides a heck of a fun ride. Most impressive is its lightness, which is just about perfect - not campy yet never too serious. Everything just bloody works. Simon Pegg is awesome! I wont call this 'sci-fi', but a great summer blockbuster it certainly is.
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post May 8 2009, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ May 8 2009, 08:29 AM)
was that fella a redshirt ? laugh.gif
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Of course he was. lol

I can think of only 3 negatives, none of which ruins the experience by much:

1) Abrams employed too much shay cam in the space battles and some of the physical fights.
2) The villain wasn't a really interesting one, but you hardly notice it.
3) I cant think of a highlight sequence from the movie. Perhaps the entire movie is the highlight, but try thinking one standout scene and see if you can come up with one.

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post May 8 2009, 05:02 PM

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He didnt forget the parking brake. It was something else.
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post May 9 2009, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ May 8 2009, 10:46 PM)
4/5

Liked it but wasn't as enthusiastic as some.

I think it's a very tricky to rate this movie. First off I'm glad it didn't feel like a 2 hour episode of Star Trek but on the other hand, Abrams directed it like he would have had in a 2 hour pilot for a TV series - throw in lots of explosions and special effects in the absence of more screen time among the cast (more screen time between Spock and Kirk?!) but leave us drooling for MORE in future installments. The cast assembled definitely is a perfect fit but f*** me, Quinto is the man - showed the most emotion without moving a muscle on his face and never thought Pine could be Kirk but he pulled it off and Yelchin was hilarious!

Only negatives were that some of the scenes intended to draw a laugh was distracting and weren't needed (Kirk trying to warn the ship that they were walking into a trap) and I thought there'd be a love triangle between Spock, Kirk and Uhura but wasn't to be. I liked it, would watch it again but though different genres of movies, Batman Begins is still the perfect prequel/origin story for me.

PS: I had a nerdgasm when Slusho was ordered.  drool.gif
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I thought the action was very much secondary to the characters. The character are what made this such a fun movie. And it's not the usual slow character-building we find in dramas as well, it's the kind where the situations and how they approach them which define who they are, and the dialogue in which everyone has a few great lines to deliver, and of course each and every one of them has their own style and swagger to back them up. It's the kind of character-driven movie which even the general Transformers-loving crowd can enjoy. And of course the pacing was perfect. Right from the moment we see the adult Kirk, the movie just flows magnificently, right till the end. The characters, and the pace and flow, and the lightness of touch everywhere... those are the main elements which made this such a terrifically fun movie. There wasnt a thick plot, but what was there was good, setting aside a few coincidences which didnt bother me at all. Forget Iron Man, forget Indy IV, this is how you do summer blockbusters.

Btw I liked the score. Dunno how it compares to Goldsmith's or any other Trek scores, but I liked this one.

Anyway anyone feels the red monster, apart from the head, looks like the one in Cloverfield? That was one scene which was unnecessary, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ May 9 2009, 01:50 PM)
No, I thought the action was thrown in there for the sake of it. For example, the Cloverfield monster sequence was a waste of time and didn't create any suspense whatsoever. If that was the best way they could think of to introduce old Spock then so be it. : / I felt the same for Montgomery in the water tunnel as well.

I still think there could have been more time between the characters, mainly because I loved every minute of them on the screen. I can't think of one other movie where I would prefer seeing the cast than things blowing up (I'm looking at Fantastic Four here  yawn.gif ). And really, as menacing as Bana was on his limited screen time, I thought that he could have had more time on screen as well which was why I felt that the action took precedence.

EDIT: I'm pretty much repeating what Makakeke said there upon seeing his reply.
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Maybe I misunderstood. I was under the impression that you thought Abrams sacrificed character time for more explosions, because that certainly wasnt the case. The mix of characters and action was perfect, it's a minor pity that the space battles werent shot as well. I didnt like the multiple shots of people running in the ship's interior while everything was exploding. I think I read somewhere that that was how the series or earlier movies were like.

As for the humour, I laughed hard along with my friends in a cinema, and that is definitely not a bad thing. But it might manifest itself as excessive once I watch it on dvd alone.

Bana was good with what little he was given. If he was unfulfilling, it was because of the script.
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post May 18 2013, 10:26 AM

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Damn this movie has breakneck pacing. A thoroughly entertaining 2 hour+ blockbuster, quite expertly staged in a mainstream-friendly manner to tick all the mass audience cravings. JJ Abrams is pretty damn good at this eh? His movies have little to no depth, but boy can he present it in a sleek, easily consumable package. It's fast food, but you gobble it down anyway.

That said I prefer the 2009 one. I think that had better character dynamics (especially between Kirk and Spock), plus I'm maybe one of the few who loved the daft alternate universe concept in that one. I also think the villain in this one is underdeveloped, or maybe just underutilized- Harrison's origin is a bit haphazardly presented, and it feels as though the movie would be building towards a sensational showdown between him and the good guys but it never quite materialized in the end. Not to mention there's quite a lot of convenient plotting in the way the life pods are hidden.

Cumberbatch is good and he commands the screen, in a very outwardly, conspicuous way. I prefer Bana, whose subtle but palpable terror was quite a masterclass in acting.

All things considered, just go watch this one.

P/S: I'm no trekkie.

Btw, Hallf 4 in GSC is f***ed up. The alignment or something isn't right, you see a purple line next to outlines, particularly evident next to words. The cnter speaker is also f***ed. Also, the censorship f***ed up as well. There were like 4 or 5 cuts, and I had no idea what was cut. It seemed like they were all for language but this is PG13 fare, what the hell could have been said?!

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QUOTE(Mov_freak @ May 18 2013, 02:05 PM)
But of course! If you were you would know the correct term is Trekker!!?! laugh.gif
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I always thought Star Trek fans were called Trekkies...

 

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