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 Intel Celeron (E1XXX) & Pentium Dual Core E2XXX, Discussion & Compilation [v2]

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post Mar 13 2008, 07:22 PM, updated 18y ago

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this is continuity from v1

Intel Pentium Dual Core family :-
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Intel Pentium Dual Core Official Site

Intel Celeron E1X00 :-
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CPUz Screenshot of mine smile.gif
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post Mar 13 2008, 07:23 PM

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post Mar 13 2008, 07:45 PM

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waaa.... V2 edi kaa... Cum I wanna c sum E2180 user.... whistling.gif
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does the digital PWM have 5 phases or 6 phases? to my understanding, most common p35 boards below a certain range is 4 phase and the higher end boards, even like x38s have 6 phases.

This gives cleaner voltages to the cpu. And also lesser heat produced due to the digital nature.. im not too sure about this
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yaya...new thread...e2xxx is growing oo
will post my SS later...
finally finish VIVA so got time to OC le
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wut is the stock speed for e2200??it's still 65nm rite?


Added on March 14, 2008, 12:06 amsorry,,just noticed bro sniper's post laugh.gif

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yup e2200 is 2.2 at stock
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post Mar 14 2008, 10:12 AM

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its V2 oledy ehh...

rozz iam your classmate, e2180 user...

sow how the e2200 perform, izzit any good..?

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all e2 users are poweered up huh smile.gif good good... yes e2200 is 65nm its allendale i think. haha, finally rozz has a mate..
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Since V2 has already started, can we all try to reduce on unnecessary, not-so-helpful spams, & non related off topics around here? Try replying with good quality posts/questions.

Replies like : Which board good ah? How to start overclocking ah?waahh your chip so good, mine only 2.8xxx ?

These kind of unintelligent posts should be avoided. We need more quality posts , not quantity whistling.gif
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just share with u all...
this is from ocer.net > E2140 GO stepping > weird

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QUOTE(addytang @ Mar 14 2008, 12:52 PM)
just share with u all...
this is from ocer.net > E2140 GO stepping > weird

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eh...tu bukan L2 ka??
not sure tho...
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hey guy , i wanna know whether e2180 compatible in 945PL board or not ! seem the processor fullfil the required , FSB 800 .... or do update some bios in order to operate processor ..

thx
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Mar 14 2008, 12:37 PM)
Since V2 has already started, can we all try to reduce on unnecessary, not-so-helpful spams, & non related off topics around here? Try replying with good quality posts/questions.

Replies like : Which board good ah? How to start overclocking ah?waahh your chip so good, mine only 2.8xxx ?

These kind of unintelligent posts should be avoided. We need more quality posts , not quantity   whistling.gif
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and also since V2 has started, it would be great if you could be a part of us and teach us some tricks of the trade, and not come to tell us this.. common bro.. you are probably the oldest among us. I am sure you can help us out smile.gif


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QUOTE(likito @ Mar 14 2008, 04:25 PM)
hey guy , i wanna know whether e2180 compatible in 945PL board or not ! seem the processor fullfil the required , FSB 800 .... or do update some bios in order to operate processor ..

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you would have to go your motherboard website and look at the compatible processors for your board. You can directly corelate fsb to usage of it with the motherboard.


Added on March 14, 2008, 7:15 pmthat processor doesnt fit either L2 or M0 so probably it might be a new variant or a rare one indeed?

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Forgot to click Memory tab on CPU-Z again sweat.gif It's 1200Mhz 5-5-5-12.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 14 2008, 10:05 PM)
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Forgot to click Memory tab on CPU-Z again sweat.gif It's 1200Mhz 5-5-5-12.
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perghhh... 17s! drool.gif you using it with ur triton rite? Whats the load temp?
Really envy la u guys.. got great rams rclxms.gif my fastest SuperPI that i can achieved was only 20s sweat.gif
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eh, this is what silverboy gotta be doing smile.gif He has the proc and rams to do this.. Well done, boy:) Go for the summit of LYN SP1M, dude!
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Idle ambient / core: 31'C +- / 31'C +-
Load ambient / core: 54'C +- / 55'C +-
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beauty man.. now go for 3.7Ghz and clock the LYN record!!
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 14 2008, 11:54 PM)
Idle ambient / core: 31'C +- / 31'C +-
Load ambient / core: 54'C +- / 55'C +-
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u stress it usimg OCCT ka??
cuz d temp is quite low for orthos... sweat.gif
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guys..wanna ask lor....

recently i bought E2160 & Abit iP35-E for 2nd rig to use for my little brother...
thinking wanna OC it....dont know much bout intel...using stoc cooling how far can go?
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Mar 15 2008, 03:46 AM)
guys..wanna ask lor....

recently i bought E2160 & Abit iP35-E for 2nd rig to use for my little brother...
thinking wanna OC it....dont know much bout intel...using stoc cooling how far can go?
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good choice of a mobo bro..ehu2heu, according my personal experience, I cud go to 347x9 and 387x8 using a stock cooler. both of them used 1.425 as the vcore, 13 hours stable. on idle, it was ermm, I forgot, but on full load, it'd be 68-69c..
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 15 2008, 01:37 AM)
u stress it usimg OCCT ka??
cuz d temp is quite low for orthos... sweat.gif
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On the contrary... I tested both and I found out the temps for Orthos is higher than OCCT.
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it all depends on priority being set in orthos.. this is the flexibility given in orthos smile.gif
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Mar 14 2008, 11:50 PM)
perghhh... 17s!  drool.gif you using it with ur triton rite? Whats the load temp?
Really envy la u guys.. got great rams  rclxms.gif  my fastest SuperPI that i can achieved was only 20s  sweat.gif
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la...20s je??
aku dapat at least 18 r...hehehe...u got good cooler there so kaw kaw la OC... flex.gif
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Its really not about the cooler, its about the processor itself. Just imagine a processor to be like a human being, every human being is born with a unique character, same goes for a processor too, it cant be forced.. I guess thats what is happening at the moment.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 15 2008, 09:05 AM)
Its really not about the cooler, its about the processor itself. Just imagine a processor to be like a human being, every human being is born with a unique character, same goes for a processor too, it cant be forced.. I guess thats what is happening at the moment.
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but maybe he is too worried bout d temp itself...
he's still @3ghz atm..so we need to encourage him to go off d limit!!! rclxm9.gif
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i think we should encourage him rather to get stable temps and workable OC-ed systems. Off-limit is good, but only when he is ready to go, and if he does want to go, we can give him a place in our team smile.gif
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QUOTE(anggajaya @ Mar 15 2008, 05:11 AM)
good choice of a mobo bro..ehu2heu, according my personal experience, I cud go to 347x9 and 387x8 using a stock cooler. both of them used 1.425 as the vcore, 13 hours stable. on idle, it was ermm, I forgot, but on full load, it'd be 68-69c..
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really ar??thx....is it need to put the vcore 1.425v??is it kinda high for an intel?
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Mar 15 2008, 12:32 PM)
really ar??thx....is it need to put the vcore 1.425v??is it kinda high for an intel?
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I don't think 1.425V is high but as long as you take care of the temps, it should be alright.
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 15 2008, 09:09 AM)
but maybe he is too worried bout d temp itself...
he's still @3ghz atm..so we need to encourage him to go off d limit!!! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 15 2008, 11:12 AM)
i think we should encourage him rather to get stable temps and workable OC-ed systems. Off-limit is good, but only when he is ready to go, and if he does want to go, we can give him a place in our team smile.gif
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lol doh.gif laugh.gif I've did 3.2ghz before, but not stable in both OCCT and Orthos. And my rams also give me a quite a headache sweat.gif can't boot if I OC it anything above 700mhz doh.gif
maybe someday when i'm already bored with this hardwares, i'll try to pump up the Vcore to 1.5v and Vdimm 2.2v biggrin.gif

and @techfrix,
is not the temperature i'm worried about rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Mar 15 2008, 12:53 PM)
lol  doh.gif  laugh.gif I've did 3.2ghz before, but not stable in both OCCT and Orthos. And my rams also give me a quite a headache  sweat.gif can't boot if I OC it anything above 700mhz  doh.gif
maybe someday when i'm already bored with this hardwares, i'll try to pump up the Vcore to 1.5v and Vdimm 2.2v  biggrin.gif

and @techfrix,
is not the temperature i'm worried about  rolleyes.gif
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what should be worry about?
im just using the small stock fan....
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hmm..even after i OCed to 3.3ghz I still can't break the 18s barrier blush.gif hmm.. must be my rams limitation, i think hmm.gif
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Yeap, definately your RAMs doh.gif
Me(E2160) and a1098113(E2140) can do below 19s with 3.2ghz 400x8 but with RAMs working at 1000mhz.
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haizz... looks like i have to find HP rams soon laugh.gif
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Mar 15 2008, 07:26 PM)
haizz... looks like i have to find HP rams soon  laugh.gif
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Your proc got good voltage bro...mine hav 2 bump alot doh.gif massive ammounts...guess it suxx...
Y dun you use devider bro? can push rams higher instead of using 1:1...

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oh well, i guess not all e2 series are as good as it was.. coz of its dominance in the market and its OCbility. So Intel dont create good chips anymore...
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Mar 15 2008, 01:17 PM)
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Your RAM not enuff high freq and the timing very loose..

My E2160 @ 3510Mhz can do 17.9s .. Ram not good .. doh.gif

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17.9s is pretty slow for 3.51Ghz bro. How much can you tighten on your ram timings as it goes higher.. with team elites, i think u should be able to do 5-5-5-12 easily and also 1100Mhz..
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can somebody teach me in OCing ram, please smile.gif i dunno nothing about the ram timing stuff tongue.gif
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The RAM timings are mostly the same... 4-4-4-10 / 5-5-5-12 or irregular timings like 4-5-5-11 / 4-5-4-11. The 1st timing is very important to fasten stuff and the 4th is precharge delay which usually is 1st + 2nd + 2.

Erm... That's all I know sweat.gif
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easy just visit our Team E2OC teambase, pm silverfire about it.. we give links to ram timings smile.gif
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hi guys, dont know if this the right place but need some suggestion here.
Im going to build a pc for my sister but im not sure which e2xxx should i get. Im going to OC it for her but im not very familiar with this series so can any1 give me a suggestion?
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QUOTE(Volt @ Mar 16 2008, 02:06 AM)
hi guys, dont know if this the right place but need some suggestion here.
Im going to build a pc for my sister but im not sure which e2xxx should i get. Im going to OC it for her but im not very familiar with this series so can any1 give me a suggestion?
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waaa.. ur sis very lucky wor.. can get an OC rig laugh.gif
just get the cheapest e2xxx or should i say E2140 or E2160 icon_rolleyes.gif both proc can manage to OC more than 60% brows.gif
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how bout the new e2220? not good?
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for the speed difference the price doesnt justify... you can get a e2160 and just up the speed to about E2200 and run it. But thats really your choice. I dont introduce OC unless you are going to do it. But yes the only difference is clock speed. But in real world theres no difference smile.gif i would suggest a e2160.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 15 2008, 08:48 PM)
oh well, i guess not all e2 series are as good as it was.. coz of its dominance in the market and its OCbility. So Intel dont create good chips anymore...
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Or mine is maybe exceptionally bad doh.gif using stock vcore on 2.8 now daily...I am happy enough thow... Anyone here tried ballistix tracer 667 2GB more than 1000mhz? me kinda scared to try...this my younger brother's ram...Max i tried is 950mhz with loose timings 5-5-5-15....


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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 16 2008, 03:18 AM)
Or mine is maybe exceptionally bad doh.gif using stock vcore on 2.8 now daily...I am happy enough thow... Anyone here tried ballistix tracer 667 2GB more than 1000mhz? me kinda scared to try...this my younger brother's ram...Max i tried is 950mhz with loose timings 5-5-5-15....
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My Ballistix have gone to 1200mhz C5 on single stick,1128 5-4-4-12(Not happy because cannot do C4) and daily use it at 110x.
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i would not suggest that speed if its a ballistix tracer.. get ready for RMA brows.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 16 2008, 03:30 PM)
i would not suggest that speed if its a ballistix tracer.. get ready for RMA brows.gif
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Dats what bro....my tracers boil eggs... rclxub.gif all my hware limiting my OC..haizz nvm la

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i wonder my ocz platinum will limit my oc...nvr oc the ram yet...
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 16 2008, 03:52 PM)
i wonder my ocz platinum will limit my oc...nvr oc the ram yet...
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If your having a DDR800 its sufficient for a longer 1:1 period...
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Actually 1:1 got what advantage? I don't understand at all :smackhead:
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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 16 2008, 03:53 PM)
If your having a DDR800 its sufficient for a longer 1:1 period...
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mine is ddr800 one...yeah i oso wanna noe what is the advantage using 1:1 divider...
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 16 2008, 03:58 PM)
mine is ddr800 one...yeah i oso wanna noe what is the advantage using 1:1 divider...
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There are many speculations at running that at 1:1 or using devider to run the rams more faster than FSB.I am yet to check if there is any benchmark increase using devider...We need sifu's like bro clawwy or bro vig to explain.Sunday all off day looks like...For what i know intel memory controller architecture and AMD should be diff.Please correct me sifu's...
Till then pls google around... nod.gif
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1:1 divider gives the best stability and no bottleneck, in my opinion, this is because your dram and fsb are running at equivalent speeds. Thus giving the best stability all round. I am still new to this timings too smile.gif
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Bought an E2160 (January batch) for my friend yesterday, overclockability isn't as good as I hoped it to be. Managed 2.8GHz at stock vCore, anything beyond that without increasing the vCore is unstable... Restart and crashes. No go for FSB above 400MHz, walled cry.gif
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Stock vcore 2.8ghz? Not bad wor... I'm sure mine can't...
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2.8Ghz is not bad.. i am using stock cooler on 2.8Ghz lol. Idle is at 39... dont dare to do a stress test lol.
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Stock vcore 2.8ghz? Not bad wor... I'm sure mine can't...
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 16 2008, 10:44 PM)
2.8Ghz is not bad.. i am using stock cooler on 2.8Ghz lol. Idle is at 39... dont dare to do a stress test lol.
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Really? blink.gif I thought most of you guys did more than 3GHz at stock. But I only ran ORTHOS for 1 hour on it hmm.gif

a1098113, are you using TX-2? Because the E2160 I bought is cooled by a stock heat sink as well (The one which is slimmed down/chopped in half sleep.gif ), and it idles at 43'C, loads at 60'C, using AS5 as the thermal compound... The motherboard's northbridge is at a whopping high 69'C doh.gif

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yes i am using tuniq and it idles at 38 degrees on stock alu cooler. I am looking to oc it to 3.2Ghz tomorrow on stock smile.gif
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for the speed difference the price doesnt justify... you can get a e2160 and just up the speed to about E2200 and run it. But thats really your choice. I dont introduce OC unless you are going to do it. But yes the only difference is clock speed. But in real world theres no difference smile.gif i would suggest a e2160.
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unless u r like me...ur board FSB cant go high...
but i doubt it la cos most prob u'll be choosing p35 based mobo so jus get de cheapest e2140/2160
cos like my rx1250 going higher fsb is a big hassle
lucky i got my e2200 tat hav a higher multiplier

QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 16 2008, 10:02 PM)
Stock vcore 2.8ghz? Not bad wor... I'm sure mine can't...
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i suggest better use format like 333*9 (multi x FSB)
cos my e2200 can go 3Ghz on stock...but on low FSB
de max i can go on de rx 1250 is jus 345mhz with 1.4v vcore


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my proc can go 3.0ghz on stock...
past occt but orthos...errrr...pass oso!!!
hahahaha...
learn from all d sifus here...
make sure to turn off ur extra apps before sterssing.... sweat.gif
bro, confirm v10 is better than v14??
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yeah bro, v10 is really good.. and the start up to windows is very quick unlike the rev after 12 laugh.gif

Thats great to hear you can 3.0Ghz on stock brows.gif yeah and golden rule, turn off apps before stressing laugh.gif good lesson huh, tech_frix
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Hmm... But with all applications off, that ain't fair right?
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 17 2008, 02:43 PM)
Hmm... But with all applications off, that ain't fair right?
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hehehe...fair what...
as long can do super pi and orthos, seems ok with me...
plus, unplugged ur network cable oso help... notworthy.gif
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That quickens up your SuperPI... But it will do less stress to your processor especially when you're running a stress test...
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 17 2008, 02:57 PM)
That quickens up your SuperPI... But it will do less stress to your processor especially when you're running a stress test...
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maybe later after flash to v10 will try stress again with all apps running!!!
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I always stress it while I use my PC... hmm.gif Can't leave my PC alone doh.gif

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 17 2008, 03:34 PM)
I always stress it while I use my PC... hmm.gif Can't leave my PC alone doh.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 17 2008, 02:43 PM)
Hmm... But with all applications off, that ain't fair right?
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actually theres no reason for you to run a stress test when u have programs on, unless u have SP32M running. ONe reason is because, for example OCCT, it stresses your cores up to 99.8% and if u do have background programs running on it, u will crash easily. Coz of over stressing. And no utilization for the background softwares u r running.
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I thought someone once said that watching movies while running ORTHOS is a good way to stress your system hmm.gif That's what I usually do, either that or I just leave my PC alone laugh.gif


Added on March 17, 2008, 10:14 pmNow say cannot run other programs pulak sweat.gif

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i prime my system while watching movies, surfing and even doing some work, that's because we're using low priority CPU, you should try on high priority (say 8 or 9), then you should see... brows.gif
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yeah i know, cstkl said that priming your system with movies is a good way.. but when u do high priority testing.. you wouldnt wanna do that, coz it will hang or restart the system...
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 17 2008, 11:33 PM)
yeah i know, cstkl said that priming your system with movies is a good way.. but when u do high priority testing.. you wouldnt wanna do that, coz it will hang or restart the system...
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and i second dis...
even let ur avg running oso will choke ur system...
i try sooo many time with my 3.0ghz proc running orthos...
while my avg still running + orthos, my system will reboot or BSOD...
but when i switch on avg, ........ BSOD + reboot.... doh.gif doh.gif
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Hi can i join here..... brows.gif
Well before i step into the darkside,can anyone tell me whats the different between MO and L2 stepping??
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Hi can i join here..... brows.gif
Well before i step into the darkside,can anyone tell me whats the different between MO and L2 stepping??
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uik??u already here ar??
got ur darkside rig already??

they said the M0 stepping is good....
im also not sure...coz i also got that M0 stepping proc....but not yet try to OC...just use value RAM and stock HSF....
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Mar 18 2008, 01:57 AM)
uik??u already here ar??
got ur darkside rig already??

they said the M0 stepping is good....
im also not sure...coz i also got that M0 stepping proc....but not yet try to OC...just use value RAM and stock HSF....
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Yup i am here already.......want to learn a bit about over clocking intel. brows.gif
Well i an not really sure to buy E2180 / E2140 or E4400 / E4500.

About motherboard,i am still searching fir it.So many P35 models.
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Yup i am here already.......want to learn a bit about over clocking intel. brows.gif
Well i an not really sure to buy E2180 / E2140 or E4400 / E4500.

About motherboard,i am still searching fir it.So many P35 models.
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what i saw and heard it is much more easier coz intel chip promise u that it all can be clock quite high....
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Mar 18 2008, 02:03 AM)
what i saw and heard it is much more easier coz intel chip promise u that it all can be clock quite high....
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For all the E2140,E2160,E2180,E2200?? or depends on the revisions??
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For all the E2140,E2160,E2180,E2200?? or depends on the revisions??
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i think all intel chip can get above 3.0ghz quite easy...
and depends on the revision and the cooling u use....
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yo ocz, u can post here if u have the e2 proc leh brows.gif By the way i would suggest you to get the e2160 or e2200 coz they might have a chance of getting high clocks.. e2140 and e2180, i dont believe have anymore good procs.

M0 and L2 is just a stepping leh, M0 has a lower thermal dissipation power, there probably uses lower voltage to achieve high speeds. Meanwhile L2, is vise versa. But nowadays, intel has kinda mass market the whole thing, making both M0 and L2 suck.. to the max... M0 has a better chance to OC.

Yes all intel chip, but not all e2 chips can do 3.0Ghz easy, how do u define easy? For me, i dont need anything to reach 3.0Ghz, some ppl need a Vcore pump for it...
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QUOTE(sempronic @ Mar 18 2008, 02:05 AM)
i think all intel chip can get above 3.0ghz quite easy...
and depends on the revision and the cooling u use....
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some ppl said E4xxx quite hard to achieve 3.0ghz...
but basically it depends on ur luck... flex.gif
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maybe intel chips 2 years ago, might have been easy like the e6300 and e6600. and also initial e2140/e2160 are godlike.. now... no more.. we live with teh old skool procs for big scores...
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check the load temp...
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ohmy.gif shocking.gif mellow.gif, 80°C doh.gif laugh.gif

eh... this is E2xxx processor thread... blush.gif

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 18 2008, 10:09 AM)
check the load temp...
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ohmy.gif shocking.gif mellow.gif, 80°C doh.gif laugh.gif

eh... this is E2xxx processor thread... blush.gif
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i rest my case... blush.gif blush.gif
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need some opinion here, which should i get, e2140, e2160 or straight e2220 ?? How the stock in LYP ??


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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Mar 18 2008, 01:06 PM)
need some opinion here, which should i get, e2140, e2160 or straight e2220 ?? How the stock in LYP ??
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d e2140, i believe is kinda hard to get..
but for high and stable multi, go for e2160...
but if u still can get e2140, go for it...
mine e2160 can go 3ghz on stock vcore... tongue.gif
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i notice too e2140 seems to be lacking stock, might this be due to celeron Dual?

thx for the info tech_frix, but ur chip is a bit special thats why. Hrm.... any one use e2220 here ?? like to have an opinion.

May be i'll be the white rat and see hehe........
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Mar 18 2008, 01:35 PM)
i notice too e2140 seems to be lacking stock, might this be due to celeron Dual?

thx for the info tech_frix, but ur chip is a bit special thats why. Hrm.... any one use e2220 here ?? like to have an opinion.

May be i'll be the white rat and see hehe........
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hehehe...dis thread need guys like u!!! icon_idea.gif
most ppl in here are using e2140 and e2160..
i really want to see d other brothers of e2xxx series!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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sup guys

just bought a new E2160 yesterday

since this is my first time overclocking,is it safe to keep it running at higher speeds all the time?




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QUOTE(Crossbone @ Mar 18 2008, 02:43 PM)
sup guys

just bought a new E2160 yesterday

since this is my first time overclocking,is it safe to keep it running at higher speeds all the time?
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err...what mobo u r using??
psu and hsf??
detail pls... nod.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 18 2008, 07:59 AM)
yo ocz, u can post here if u have the e2 proc leh brows.gif By the way i would suggest you to get the e2160 or e2200 coz they might have a chance of getting high clocks.. e2140 and e2180, i dont believe have anymore good procs.

M0 and L2 is just a stepping leh, M0 has a lower thermal dissipation power, there probably uses lower voltage to achieve high speeds. Meanwhile L2, is vise versa. But nowadays, intel has kinda mass market the whole thing, making both M0 and L2 suck.. to the max... M0 has a better chance to OC.

Yes all intel chip, but not all e2 chips can do 3.0Ghz easy, how do u define easy? For me, i dont need anything to reach 3.0Ghz, some ppl need a Vcore pump for it...
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can we choose M0 or L2 when we purchase? i maybe wan to get a e2160
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QUOTE(outsiders_86 @ Mar 18 2008, 02:52 PM)
can we choose M0 or L2 when we purchase? i maybe wan to get a e2160
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bro, d latest E2xxx chips are M0 stepping edy...
but d prob is if u sooooo unlucky, u will get a proc dat can oc to 2.7-2.8 on cstock vcore....
BUT....if u r soooooooooooooo lucky, u can get a proc dat can oc to 3.0ghz on stock!!! flex.gif
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Mar 18 2008, 01:35 PM)
i notice too e2140 seems to be lacking stock, might this be due to celeron Dual?

thx for the info tech_frix, but ur chip is a bit special thats why. Hrm.... any one use e2220 here ?? like to have an opinion.

May be i'll be the white rat and see hehe........
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If I recall correctly... E2140 already EOL, so it's hardly possible to get them now laugh.gif

QUOTE(outsiders_86 @ Mar 18 2008, 02:52 PM)
can we choose M0 or L2 when we purchase? i maybe wan to get a e2160
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Most new E2160 are M0, look at the label on the box... If you can find SLA8Z, it's M0 nod.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 18 2008, 02:50 PM)
err...what mobo u r using??
psu and hsf??
detail pls... nod.gif
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i'm using a CM 430w PSU and a Gigabyte P35-DS3L mobo

for HSF,i'm using the stock version that came with the processor
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Gigabyte boards again.... aite its good. If u intend to oc, make sure u sought out the cooling bit, coz from what i heard, the current stock coolers are thin, discouraging ppl from OCing the procs i think brows.gif
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* CPU Clock: 133 to 600MHz in 1MHz increments;
* N/B Strap: 533/800/1066;
* DRAM Spec: 533/667/800;
* CPU Voltage from 1.325 to 1.725 in 0.0250V increments;
* Memory Voltage from 1.75V to 2.10V in 0.05V increments, 2.20V, 2.25V, 2.30V, 2.35V, 2.45V, 2.55V, 2.65V;
* MCH and PCIe voltage from 1.5V to 2.0V in 0.01V increments;
* Memory Timings: CAS (tCL), RAS to CAS (tRCD), RAS Precharge (tRP), Precharge Delay (tRAS).

Is it enough for me to get the E2140 to 3Ghz with these options?? (taken from Abit AWD9 MAX).
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 18 2008, 03:12 PM)
bro, d latest E2xxx chips are M0 stepping edy...
but d prob is if u sooooo unlucky, u will get a proc dat can oc to 2.7-2.8 on cstock vcore....
BUT....if u r soooooooooooooo lucky, u can get a proc dat can oc to 3.0ghz on stock!!! flex.gif
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the percent of unlucky high or not?i nvr oc b4 1..jz wan go give it a try...btw abit IP35e or gigabyte ds3, which 1 better?and also in term of overall performance amd x2 or intel dual core better...include oc..and non oc..any sifu can tell me??thanks

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Just check the specs number given by Tech_frix in the previous page, thats M0 stepping. And if it was between Abit and GGByte, i would choose Abit IP35e, and thats due to easy usabililty of the board but if ur the lazy type, choose GGByte ds3. Again better or not, is using personal preference..

I think your amd vs intel question is answered numoerous times, and obviously intel has a dominant say in this issue, though AMD does clock well, but u need to learn the settings and we dont teach that here. We only teach Intel OCing.
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QUOTE(ocz @ Mar 18 2008, 09:20 PM)
* CPU Clock: 133 to 600MHz in 1MHz increments;
    * N/B Strap: 533/800/1066;
    * DRAM Spec: 533/667/800;
    * CPU Voltage from 1.325 to 1.725 in 0.0250V increments;
    * Memory Voltage from 1.75V to 2.10V in 0.05V increments, 2.20V, 2.25V, 2.30V, 2.35V, 2.45V, 2.55V, 2.65V;
    * MCH and PCIe voltage from 1.5V to 2.0V in 0.01V increments;
    * Memory Timings: CAS (tCL), RAS to CAS (tRCD), RAS Precharge (tRP), Precharge Delay (tRAS).

Is it enough for me to get the E2140 to 3Ghz with these options?? (taken from Abit AWD9 MAX).
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QUOTE(SoulLif3 @ Mar 19 2008, 01:17 AM)
yes. for AWD9 Max with value ram will do the job smile.gif
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i also do 3.0 on e2160(M0) at stock vcore, 3.1 onwards need to pump alot of vcore to achieve.
gigabyte p35-ds3 - for that price and performance is worth
something like T2-RS - more OC setting to play around
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just got my e2220 yesterday, so far manage to get 3.0 at stock vcore, but the reading a bit low, the mobo seems to set it at 1.26 or so... may be it's according to the vid i suppose.

btw what the real vcore, the reading u 1st put on the mobo or according to the box?

will upload more result tomorrow when i'm OC it more. High multiplier really fun man, make me remember of the old barton.
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i maybe also getting an E2220 this weekend, initially wanted to get the E4500, i guess just use the extra $ for getting a better GC maybe a 8800GT instead of 9600GT

one noobie question - is there any difference between getting valueram vs performance ram - if i only wish to overlock to 3Ghz




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high multiplier is fun but your super pi scores will be really low coz of your low fsb.. which is not fun at all smile.gif

If its just 3Ghz then value ram is good enough. Get Team Value ram. By the way more ram questions should be asked in the LYN DDR2 thread.
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Mar 19 2008, 09:57 AM)
just got my e2220 yesterday, so far manage to get 3.0 at stock vcore, but the reading a bit low, the mobo seems to set it at 1.26 or so... may be it's according to the vid i suppose.

btw what the real vcore, the reading u 1st put on the mobo or according to the box?

will upload more result tomorrow when i'm OC it more. High multiplier really fun man, make me remember of the old barton.
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1.26v for stock vCore is pretty normal, it's called vdroop or voltage drop if not mistaken... You most probably won't get what you set in the BIOS hmm.gif

Mine can sometimes be as low as 1.248v during heavy load rclxub.gif
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Dreamworks, i do know what is vdrop and droop, but different mobo will give different default voltage setting. What i am refering what is the standard vcore for this proc, according to the box specify 1.35v? or do i refer to the VID as stock voltage?
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Mar 19 2008, 09:57 AM)
just got my e2220 yesterday, so far manage to get 3.0 at stock vcore, but the reading a bit low, the mobo seems to set it at 1.26 or so... may be it's according to the vid i suppose.

btw what the real vcore, the reading u 1st put on the mobo or according to the box?

will upload more result tomorrow when i'm OC it more. High multiplier really fun man, make me remember of the old barton.
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urs is quite low i think...
cos for mine e2200, de mobo ady set 1.31...or maybe its de lowest de mobo can go i think
anyway...for my e2200, it require 1.3875v to be at 3.4Ghz..vdroop around 0.03v
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i maybe also getting an E2220 this weekend, initially wanted to get the E4500, i guess just use the extra $  for getting a better GC maybe a 8800GT instead of 9600GT
one noobie question - is there any difference between getting valueram vs performance ram - if i only wish to overlock to 3Ghz
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if so y dun u jus get e2180 or 2160?...its even cheaper by around rm50 i guess...
(didnt go check price liao)

jus wanna ask would superpi has prob running under vista?
cos mine keep not responding...
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New E2160 rig will be reporting in tomorrow wink.gif

Specs are as follows:
GeCube 3870XT X-Turbo 3
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Hi guys.I am getting an intel E2 series proc soon.I want to know,which is better E2140 or E2180.? smile.gif
The default speed of the E2140 is 1.6Ghz,so,the highest speed that is possible for it after overclocking is 3.0 to 3.2Ghz rite?
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Hi guys.I am getting an intel E2 series proc soon.I want to know,which is better E2140 or E2180.? smile.gif
The default speed of the E2140 is 1.6Ghz,so,the highest speed that is possible for it after overclocking is 3.0 to 3.2Ghz rite?
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a1098113 has achieved 3.496Ghz with it rclxms.gif http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/651703

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 20 2008, 12:15 AM)
a1098113 has achieved 3.496Ghz with it rclxms.gif http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/651703
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The results makes me drool...Well i really confuse which proc to get. cry.gif
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The results makes me drool...Well i really confuse which proc to get. cry.gif
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How much is a E2140 ar?
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QUOTE(anggajaya @ Mar 20 2008, 12:47 AM)
jus get the e2140, really worth of money
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It is bro???? well,i am tempted looking at those E6 series getting less superPI score with high cpu freq. smile.gif


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How much is a E2140 ar?
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I can get it for RM205 brand new. smile.gif MO stepping.

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RM205? In LYP ar? I want 1 too rclxm9.gif
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RM205? In LYP ar? I want 1 too rclxm9.gif
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guys i dun think shops sell this e2140 anymore. I think you ppl must focus on e2180 or e2160 instead...
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It is bro???? well,i am tempted looking at those E6 series getting less superPI score with high cpu freq. smile.gif


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I can get it for RM205 brand new. smile.gif MO stepping.
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get e2160 instead of e2140 & e2180
e2160 with stock vcore you can easily achieved 3.0ghz.. brows.gif
for e2140 you must be lucky to achieved 3.4ghz smile.gif , e2180 hardly achieved 3.4ghz even with high multiplier shakehead.gif
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hmm some here cant even achieve 3.0Ghz on stock vcore dude.. gone are the days where the e2 can do 3.0Ghz on stock.

Also its not luck that e2140 can achieve 3.4Ghz, all the batches of 2006 when it first came out can do 3.4Ghz i believe.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 20 2008, 08:45 AM)
guys i dun think shops sell this e2140 anymore. I think you ppl must focus on e2180 or e2160 instead...
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My shops i am working at selling E2140 (20 boxes left).

QUOTE(Without @ Mar 20 2008, 12:01 PM)
get e2160 instead of e2140 & e2180
e2160 with stock vcore you can easily achieved 3.0ghz..  brows.gif
for e2140 you must be lucky to achieved 3.4ghz smile.gif , e2180 hardly achieved 3.4ghz even with high multiplier  shakehead.gif
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Yeah...Its very had to find a E2160.E2180 at my place here...Lots of the shops are only selling E4+++,E6+++ sweat.gif
Well,let say if i want to buy right,how can i know that it is MO stepping.??
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Finally, I settled on a DFI P35 Blood Iron... Totally don't know how to tweak the BIOS... Anyone here can teach me how to set it? doh.gif

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how much u get it bro?i wonder who wanna trade giga p35-ds3 wit my ip35-e..lazy to reset jumper edi laugh.gif anybody tried e2160 @3.4GHz stable?
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I got that board brand new for RM340 wink.gif
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means dat now u have 2 sets of e2160?
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I'm now at 3.24Ghz on my E2180 but I had to bump my Vcore to 1.46V which is very high > < to be stable on Orthos

I was wondering.. As long I keep my Vcore below 1.5V my proc should be fine rite? Cos I'm planning to use this PC for a long time =D
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QUOTE(LaiN87 @ Mar 20 2008, 05:14 PM)
I'm now at 3.24Ghz on my E2180 but I had to bump my Vcore to 1.46V which is very high > < to be stable on Orthos

I was wondering.. As long I keep my Vcore below 1.5V my proc should be fine rite? Cos I'm planning to use this PC for a long time =D
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jus watch out the temp. 70 is max for 24/7 usage,
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Alrite =D Cos now blend it maxes at 69 C... Since my Vcore is already so high I hope I don't have to bump it somemore to increase FSB > < It'll be kinda sad my max is 3.2 Ghz
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Ahhhhhhhhhh~ How to use DFI board? sweat.gif
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go to the lanparty forum lor.. silverfire... by the way why did u go for dfi when u know dfi has all the little settings u need to learn and also learn it... by the way i am also thinking of giving away my ip35e for a 965 chipset or maybe the abit fatality board
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 20 2008, 07:46 PM)
go to the lanparty forum lor.. silverfire... by the way why did u go for dfi when u know dfi has all the little settings u need to learn and also learn it... by the way i am also thinking of giving away my ip35e for a 965 chipset or maybe the abit fatality board
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feel itchy to test other board ey bro? brows.gif btw...i wonder if 965 chipset can do well oso wit our e2xxx proc hmm.gif
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im not sure at all, but i do know that 975 boards are godlike.. some of them.. 965 chipsets are hot i think... but for me its purpose coz if my gc burnt then can use inbuilt gc brows.gif
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u mean hot in term of nb's temp?
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yeah thats what i heard.. 965s are hot.. but i am not sure whether its true or not
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Some early result for E2220, sorry for the size, using 2 monitors, lazy to cut. blush.gif

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well initial result is good, now try to aim for 3.6 below 1.45v for daily use, dunno possible or not

a1098113, p965 is not hot, infact quite manageble as i have use it for quite sometime. X38 is really hot man.... rclxub.gif giving me trouble
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thats superb bro... keep it up, i think ur our sole representative of e2220. smile.gif

thanks for making my mind clear about the heat factor in 965 bro. Coz i am thinking about it. brows.gif downgrade from p35 to p965
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i think biostar tforce965pt's nb which is hot if compared to other mobo...i mean the hottest one coz used it before....other users oso said the same...
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i am thinking about biostar laugh.gif hows the cooler bro? doing any good or mediocre?
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Hi guys,is it safe to use E2160 @ 3.0Ghz for 24/7 daily?
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yes it is smile.gif if its 375*8 and 333*9 smile.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 20 2008, 11:16 PM)
i am thinking about biostar laugh.gif hows the cooler bro? doing any good or mediocre?
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the cooler doing good...my temp decrease about 10'c-15'c brows.gif
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dammmmnnn you love it huh smile.gif haha, my next baby is ifx14
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of course i'm lovin it..but now wanna try other mobo plak brows.gif started to feel dem lazy to reset cmos laugh.gif
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Gonna get my third E2 series soon, E2200 seems quite promising... Should I get that or stick with E2160... hmm.gif

My motherboard will definitely be Gigabyte, because I'm also too lazy to rest the CMOS laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ocz @ Mar 20 2008, 11:22 PM)
Hi guys,is it safe to use E2160 @ 3.0Ghz for 24/7 daily?
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safe lor as long u watch ur temp k...
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Am a lil worried as the temp reaching 55C with my tuniq tower sweat.gif. Is this normal?
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 21 2008, 09:00 AM)
Started overclocking with my pentium 2160 yest. Currently got this far

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Am a lil worried as the temp reaching 55C with my tuniq tower sweat.gif. Is this normal?
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with orthos it's normal.. try 378x9 vcore 1.45
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for 3.2ghz, i would say it is normal...
so dont be sooooo affraid with it...bro, try super pi and post it here k??
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 20 2008, 10:58 PM)
thats superb bro... keep it up, i think ur our sole representative of e2220. smile.gif

thanks for making my mind clear about the heat factor in 965 bro. Coz i am thinking about it. brows.gif downgrade from p35 to p965
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Thanks for the comment, sole representativ.......anyone care to join ?? like to have some comment on this new babe shocking.gif and a hot 1 too, maybe need to change cooler too..

change to p965, not so good at high FSB try p35 blood iron very cheap and good
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for 3.2ghz, i would say it is normal...
so dont be sooooo affraid with it...bro, try super pi and post it here k??
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Ok good to hear that. No coz i was a lil suprised.......lastime when i oc with my amd X2, raise the volts to 1.5v, the temp was still at arnd 50. Tried superpi 1M got 19.9sec brows.gif. Will post screenshots soon.
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19.9seconds is not bad. try to get 18 seconds at least.
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 20 2008, 04:16 PM)
how much u get it bro?i wonder who wanna trade giga p35-ds3 wit my ip35-e..lazy to reset jumper edi laugh.gif anybody tried e2160 @3.4GHz stable?
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3.4Ghz last time
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Biostar 965PT is very2x good OC mobo...serve me well last time thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 21 2008, 09:56 AM)
Ok good to hear that. No coz i was a lil suprised.......lastime when i oc with my amd X2, raise the volts to 1.5v, the temp was still at arnd 50. Tried superpi 1M got 19.9sec brows.gif. Will post screenshots soon.
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mine 18sec bro...
try dat... sweat.gif
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mine 18sec bro...
try dat... sweat.gif
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But u get 18 sec at what speed huh? Hmm.....hvnt fine-tune my ram yet. Lastime with my amd system it could do 840mhz with 4-4-11-15-2T. Here hvnt try yet. Am using Team value ram atm
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 21 2008, 10:53 AM)
3.4Ghz last time
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@heizad n a1098113
Biostar 965PT is very2x good OC mobo...serve me well last time thumbup.gif
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u're rite bro..i've used it too wit my e6300 b4 the rig got stolen cry.gif anyone wanna trade dis mobo wit my ip35-e? biggrin.gif
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nice score there... thumbup.gif
mine was on 3.2ghz...maybe u can go further...
i post my super pi on V1...
will try again if i'm not busy... nod.gif
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joestar, you should be doing 17.5 seconds with 3.4Ghz, and i am using team value too. U dont need crucial rams for such things. Let me post my SP1m.

i did joestars 18.6seconds with just team value rams and also not to mention just 3.2Ghz

the speed is just 2400Mhz coz of EIST and C1E



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SuperPI @ tight timing + higher CPU clock total pawnage brows.gif

i remember the old days when i'm on DDR 700, while some at DDR 500 IIANM, but mine @3-4-4-8, while him... extremely tight, it's not 2-2-2-5, it's way tighter than that and some figure was at 0 value... thumbup.gif

well, that's the old days, currently i'm on 2x1GB + 1x1GB (3 RAM Modules) with loose timing (5-5-5-15) @DDR2 800MHz, also Kingston KVR + Aeneon..., not badla for crappy chipset available biggrin.gif

overclocking isn't entirely about luck... it's about get the most potential possibility of your (whatever) processor, RAM and GPU you have at the moment... mellow.gif
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Updated.......played with my ram and this time shutoff all unecessary processes rclxms.gif

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Quite close to you ady brows.gif
Btw since you also hv team value i wanna ask u, currently i am having a problem booting above 850mhz even at 5-5-5-15. Strange thing is i can boot fine at 850mhz with 4-4-4-11 sweat.gif Any ideas?? I'm ald overvolting it to 2.2v. Lastime with my amd system the ram nvr used to be stable above 900mhz.

EDIT: just realized the screenshot i took doesnt show the ram speed sweat.gif Anyway it is at 426(852mhz) with 4-4-4-12-2T

EDIT2: suddenly I'm booting above 850mhz. Weird sweat.gif More testing to come rclxm9.gif

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I just realized that there's a huge voltage increasing to run 3Ghz to 3.2Ghz for a E2 series.

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 21 2008, 05:39 PM)
SuperPI @ tight timing + higher CPU clock total pawnage brows.gif

i remember the old days when i'm on DDR 700, while some at DDR 500 IIANM, but mine @3-4-4-8, while him... extremely tight, it's not 2-2-2-5, it's way tighter than that and some figure was at 0 value... thumbup.gif

well, that's the old days, currently i'm on 2x1GB + 1x1GB (3 RAM Modules) with loose timing (5-5-5-15) @DDR2 800MHz, also Kingston KVR + Aeneon..., not badla for crappy chipset available biggrin.gif

overclocking isn't entirely about luck... it's about get the most potential possibility of your (whatever) processor, RAM and GPU you have at the moment... mellow.gif
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you got a good point there.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 20 2008, 07:46 PM)
go to the lanparty forum lor.. silverfire... by the way why did u go for dfi when u know dfi has all the little settings u need to learn and also learn it... by the way i am also thinking of giving away my ip35e for a 965 chipset or maybe the abit fatality board
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which 1 u mean?...
if u mean de rx1250...dun...haha
it sux...it gave me black screen le...now de com can start...jus no display...dunno y?...
can help?...
it jus black out when i restarted the com as vista update need restart...
setting of OC is 333*10 vcore = 1.368v, nb =1.8++ cant recall
QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Mar 21 2008, 12:01 AM)
Gonna get my third E2 series soon, E2200 seems quite promising... Should I get that or stick with E2160... hmm.gif

My motherboard will definitely be Gigabyte, because I'm also too lazy to rest the CMOS laugh.gif
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yes...i think de e2200 is quite promising too...
it can go on stock vcore till 3.1Ghz...jus de board 'mmm zang hei'<--cantonese

ok...so i'm now officially looking for new board...
pls recommend me a goo matx board..
jus wanna ask is g35 similar to p35?...except for the IGP..
how bout g33?...oc good?...1333mhz strap right?
sorry for these question as my com wont start n i dun hav much connection currently to do some rnd...
hope all sifu help me...
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QUOTE(ocz @ Mar 21 2008, 07:08 PM)
I just realized that there's a huge voltage increasing to run 3Ghz to 3.2Ghz for a E2 series.
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yeah coz of the native strap and the voltage needed would be at a non linear rate.


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Updated.......played with my ram and this time shutoff all unecessary processes rclxms.gif

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Quite close to you ady brows.gif
Btw since you also hv team value i wanna ask u, currently i am having a problem booting above 850mhz even at 5-5-5-15. Strange thing is i can boot fine at 850mhz with 4-4-4-11 sweat.gif Any ideas?? I'm ald overvolting it to 2.2v. Lastime with my amd system the ram nvr used to be stable above 900mhz.

EDIT: just realized the screenshot i took doesnt show the ram speed sweat.gif Anyway it is at 426(852mhz) with 4-4-4-12-2T

EDIT2: suddenly I'm booting above 850mhz. Weird sweat.gif More testing to come  rclxm9.gif
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whats your fsb:dram ratio for this? is it at default? i play at 4:5 or 2:3 i think.. Ratios can often give varied results.


Added on March 21, 2008, 8:21 pmi realise from all my experience that once u have IGP on your board, ur just asking for trouble.. thats why performance boards that i see dont come with IGP, i am not too sure... i am looking at the IGP option, but...

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but matx dun come with non-IGP boards right?..
see how lo...if worst come worse then i might jus sell of de sugio for a full atx board
haiz...i reali like the sugio...compact but good stuff..

currently these two boards on my mind to squeeze every bit of my e2200 n ocz..
1. P5E-VM SE <--G35 chipset, LYP selling de HDMI version and it cost like 600+like so i better go for mars right?...haha
2. GA-G33M-DS2R <---G33 chipset, dunno how this perform...


Added on March 21, 2008, 9:19 pmyes...my board seem no prob...
now everything is ok le?...o.O...weird hor...
haha...guess matx aint such a good idea for OC...

bout performance board with IGP...
de old nforce2 maybe?...haha

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i am really curious about the abit fatality... i wanna see how hard you can actually push the fella, as it is rated as one of the best Matx boards there is.
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i had a hard time pushing it over 350mhz...
stability is another prob..as stated by others, the board fail at the 9th hour of orthos..even on stock
u wan?...thinking of selling it...maybe...haha

so now i'm researching for a full atx board le...
no $$ to buys mars..so m considering foxconn p35a
as it can cf..although 16x/4x...but similar price to ip35 le
any comments?
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back to the same thing lor if u r interested in ip35e./// i might be interested in your board... but at the moment i want either the 965/975 board/
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at the moment ip35 is in my list...as its a proven performer
but i might wanna cf later...so thinking of the p35a...
now still gathering info on it
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Whats the speed for E2160 at stock for SuperPI?
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bro its a hanging q.... what speed at sp??
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hmmm......realized smth. Above FSB380 any other multi except 9 is useless. Comp wont boot. Any ideas? I am using bios 15.
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Whats the speed for E2160 at stock for SuperPI?
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32s~33s with 1.8Ghz(EIST, C1E disabled) with RAMs at 800mhz 3-3-3-8.
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joe_star, might to explain more ? higher multi or lower 1 ?? may be u could try to adjust DQ calibration (this is gor DFI, other got some other names)

btw just a question is is normal that everest report cpu temp is higher compare to cpu core temp?? got this weird reading from my e2220...
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 12:08 AM)
bro its a hanging q.... what speed at sp??
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Yeah i mean the speed for super PI.

QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 12:46 AM)
32s~33s with 1.8Ghz(EIST, C1E disabled) with RAMs at 800mhz 3-3-3-8.
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Mar 22 2008, 01:44 AM)
joe_star, might to explain more ? higher multi or lower 1 ?? may be u could try to adjust DQ calibration (this is gor DFI, other got some other names)

btw just a question is is normal that everest report cpu temp is higher compare to cpu core temp?? got this weird reading from my e2220...
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everest might be better for reading temps of allendale processors. In core temps, the T-JUnction for this type of processors are 85 degrees centigrade, this means that you will have to remeasure the temps in relevance to the Tjunction= 100 degrees centigrade... I am not sure how many degrees you would have to add to get that.. everest follows the Tjunction = 100. This is what i read from core temps.. it might be true..
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gonna o LYP today to RMA my mobo...
somthng wrong with my mobo...multi lock @ 9 and now it doesnt boot at all... doh.gif doh.gif
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gonna o LYP today to RMA my mobo...
somthng wrong with my mobo...multi lock @ 9 and now it doesnt boot at all... doh.gif  doh.gif
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Finally whacked out huh? doh.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 11:47 AM)
Finally whacked out huh? doh.gif
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yalor...
i suspect d bios chip...
cuz i dont know y d multi stuck @9...
yesterday trus kiok...
sad...nice board tho...
anyone can give me d reliable reason r for my rma to d seller?? notworthy.gif
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just say i cant use the board, and the multiplier is stuck at 9. And if they say "its like that lor", then u tell them, the e2160 has a range of multipliers.. la, simple.

Hmm the bios huh... coz mine works perfectly fine... bro. oh yeah, shit, for 2160, bios 10 has issues... u should use bios 14 back again.. sorry la, just remembered.. dont have to rma..
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 01:19 PM)
just say i cant use the board, and the multiplier is stuck at 9. And if they say "its like that lor", then u tell them, the e2160 has a range of multipliers.. la, simple.

Hmm the bios huh... coz mine works perfectly fine... bro. oh yeah, shit, for 2160, bios 10 has issues... u should use bios 14 back again.. sorry la, just remembered.. dont have to rma..
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its not cuz of bios 10, suddenly it doent wan to reboot...
i dont know what to do now...maybe bios chip lor...
my last time solution back fire... doh.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 22 2008, 01:30 PM)
its not cuz of bios 10, suddenly it doent wan to reboot...
i dont know what to do now...maybe bios chip lor...
my last time solution back fire... doh.gif
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I helped my friend RMA his board also due to flash....tht time i dun dare do ppl's board also...i spoke to the guy at the shop "board baru pun rosak cepat? ini apa?" he changed 1 to 1 exchange for a new one....but my friend destroyed his board in 8 days after buying

@joe_star
When did you buy ure proc?

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 22 2008, 01:45 PM)
I helped my friend RMA his board also due to flash....tht time i dun dare do ppl's board also...i spoke to the guy at the shop "board baru pun rosak cepat? ini apa?" he changed 1 to 1 exchange for a new one....but my friend destroyed his board in 8 days after buying

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When did you buy ure proc?
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can 1 to 1??
how old is ur ren mobo when d sellr gave it 1 to 1??
which shop? notworthy.gif
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eh, maybe the rma might take a month tongue.gif jk jk.. then techie cant play oc di... so sad brows.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 02:01 PM)
eh, maybe the rma might take a month tongue.gif jk jk.. then techie cant play oc di... so sad brows.gif
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cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
MONTH??????????
doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
bye2 E2OC....
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dun be sad la, maybe ill sell you my Ip35 board.. but pm me lor about it.. i am downgrading
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 22 2008, 02:02 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
MONTH??????????
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
bye2 E2OC....
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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 22 2008, 02:04 PM)
C-zone bro...i help him RMA in 8 days of purchase... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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i bought it somwhere else!!!! doh.gif doh.gif
but its ....
will see d outcome later...
but ur reason kinda cool...
u just straight away talk like dat ke??
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So whose PC are you using now?
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 22 2008, 02:16 PM)
i bought it somwhere else!!!! doh.gif  doh.gif
but its ....
will see d outcome later...
but ur reason kinda cool...
u just straight away talk like dat ke??
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my E2160 gonna be rested fo a while... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 02:17 PM)
So whose PC are you using now?
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Hmm, but all these warranty issues, will it still stand even after we overclock them? Like processors, ram and motherboard...
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Mar 22 2008, 02:20 PM)
i guess he is back to his laptop  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 02:23 PM)
Hmm, but all these warranty issues, will it still stand even after we overclock them? Like processors, ram and motherboard...
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@Silverfire, i dont know bout dat lor... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 02:04 PM)
dun be sad la, maybe ill sell you my Ip35 board.. but pm me lor about it.. i am downgrading
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im officially retired lor.. don wanna play anymore.... getting old di.. but ill be here to guide you fellas la
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 03:16 PM)
im officially retired lor.. don wanna play anymore.... getting old di.. but ill be here to guide you fellas la
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Really retiring??? brows.gif
Oh ya,you can guide me to OC when my intel rig are ready to rocks.
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I'm letting my E2160 go... Anyone interested?
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Will DFI DK P35 T2RS goes oc well w 21 series processor??
Hope to get some recommendation from you guys.

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 03:36 PM)
I'm letting my E2160 go... Anyone interested?
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uikz? u also retiring? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 03:36 PM)
I'm letting my E2160 go... Anyone interested?
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how much u wan let it go ?
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 01:19 PM)

Hmm the bios huh... coz mine works perfectly fine... bro. oh yeah, shit, for 2160, bios 10 has issues... u should use bios 14 back again.. sorry la, just remembered.. dont have to rma..
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how much u wan let it go ?
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I'm still thinking hard wanna let go or not... Thinking hard now: New monitor or new processor hmm.gif hmm.gif
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yalah im getting old la, cant remember everything smile.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 06:31 PM)
I'm still thinking hard wanna let go or not... Thinking hard now: New monitor or new processor hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Mar 22 2008, 03:40 PM)
Will DFI DK P35 T2RS goes oc well w 21 series processor??
Hope to get some recommendation from you guys.

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Hmmm...From the review i read..Its superb and many tweaking tools.
Joining the darkside?? brows.gif
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i would recommend silver to get a new processor, its much more worthwhile than a monitor.

DFI is a great board to use only and only if you are very familiar with timings and voltages for the comp. Its not every ocers cup of tea, so to say.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 07:21 PM)
i would recommend silver to get a new processor, its much more worthwhile than a monitor.

DFI is a great board to use only and only if you are very familiar with timings and voltages for the comp. Its not every ocers cup of tea, so to say.
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learning is one thing, burning a processor while learning is another brows.gif but yeah if u wanna spend that time learning, then its a good buy then.
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Still need you to guide me afterward brows.gifbrows.gif
Possible? smile.gif

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 07:08 PM)
yalah im getting old la, cant remember everything smile.gif
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DFI Genie BIOS uses different terms... Instead of pumping 0.125v, you add 12.5mV doh.gif
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DFI Genie BIOS uses different terms... Instead of pumping 0.125v, you add 12.5mV doh.gif
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12.5mV = 0.0125V right??

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12.5mV = 0.0125V right??

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 08:09 PM)
Wait... Oh yeah, you're correct laugh.gif Because 125mV = 0.125v rclxub.gif
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Thanks bro for the tips. wink.gif

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Still need you to guide me afterward brows.gifbrows.gif
Possible? smile.gif

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who will tongue.gif yalah, silverfire, techie and all will do u leh brows.gif
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Don't want to let go your E2140??? brows.gif
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would u let go of jessica alba?? no way man, e2140 is myyyyy hot baby!!!
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would u let go of jessica alba?? no way man, e2140 is myyyyy hot baby!!!
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I hope to get a proc as good as yours.
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hi all sifeus here.. i am new to intel.. these is my few oc results.. hope can get some advice fromm sifus here..


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very nice clocks there.. get yor temps down, u should be fine after that smile.gif

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anyone can prove tat the e2160 with lower heatsink is more poor when over clock if compare with the normal heasink one ?
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anyone can prove tat the e2160 with lower heatsink is more poor when over clock if compare with the normal heasink one ?
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You can't compare like that, it's rather like higher temps produces less satisfying overclocking results...
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wow...400mhz le...dunno if my 2200 can or not...
if can and at full muitl = 4400MHz le...
400*11...woohoo...

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sarry man...dun think i'll get ur ip35...
am considering mars...
so if any1 wanna let go...let me noe...if not i'll get it retail upon selling my f190 n sg01
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have u tried repositioning ur hsf??maybe not enough contact wit the proc...
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the temp not fit with that speed? i tot is normal..
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You can't compare like that, it's rather like higher temps produces less satisfying overclocking results...
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i think maybe the temp is not fit wit the vcore...
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thats ok bro... i might be keeping my p35 for a while.. soon maybe when i have more money ill buy a better board


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the temp not fit with that speed? i tot is normal..
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i know its normal, but thats y i am trying to say that u need a better cooler for keeping your proc alive for a longer time.

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no la,i not means the temperature,i means is tat the newer batch of e2160 will poorer in overclock?
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my e2160 is latest batch i guess.. come with very thin hsf... similar to e8200 hsf..


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i think maybe the temp is not fit wit the vcore...
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i believe so tat the newer batch of e2160 is not good as the old batch....  sad.gif
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 22 2008, 10:30 PM)
my e2160 is latest batch i guess.. come with very thin hsf... similar to e8200 hsf..


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i try reatach my hsf c got diff o not..
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u wont get much out of the stock cooler.. and well, playing with such Vcore, u need to have a better cooler and a good TIM. Otherwise dont do it, later u will have a tough time with RMA.
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Are you sure?? Then bad news for me d  sad.gif

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yes lor, later batches of this e2140 and e2160 are sucky in OC.. But i am not making a generalization. There might be a chance though u might get a good one..
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3.2Ghz can be done of course, its just 333*9, but anything more than that, u migth have a tough time.
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3.2Ghz can be done of course, its just 333*9, but anything more than that, u migth have a tough time.
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hmm that i am not sure, that u must ask the batch freaks, all i know is that if u get procs from 2005/2006, its really good in OC. I think.
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R u referring to the latest batch of E2160?
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Batch number and packed date is stated on the box wink.gif
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hmm that i am not sure, that u must ask the batch freaks, all i know is that if u get procs from 2005/2006, its really good in OC. I think.
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That's quite hard IMO.It depends on luck to get those proc with good OC potentials.

Whats the safest temp actually for OCed E2.?
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Actually can say the proc has surpassed my expectations. But now must wait if i get a watercooling kit to test more tongue.gif. Anyways....my other problem is still there, I cant boot above fsb400 with any other multi except 9X. Is it FSB wall with the proc or maybe bios??
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That's quite hard IMO.It depends on luck to get those proc with good OC potentials.

Whats the safest temp actually for OCed E2.?
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Actually can say the proc has surpassed my expectations. But now must wait if i get a watercooling kit to test more tongue.gif. Anyways....my other problem is still there, I cant boot above fsb400 with any other multi except 9X. Is it FSB wall with the proc or maybe bios??
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Really nice clock bro.what cooler r u using?
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currently using tuniq tower rclxms.gif But i didnt stress test at 3.6ghz tho. Highest i could reach that i stressed was 3.5ghz. At that temp it was touching 73 ady sweat.gif
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Actually can say the proc has surpassed my expectations. But now must wait if i get a watercooling kit to test more tongue.gif. Anyways....my other problem is still there, I cant boot above fsb400 with any other multi except 9X. Is it FSB wall with the proc or maybe bios??
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not bad at all thumbup.gif but too high on the Vcore man... still slow on the SP1M coz i achieved the same at 3.5Ghz and at a very low Vcore compared to yours. sweat.gif
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whats the highest vcore you guys ever run with air cooling??? brows.gif
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Wat to do.....all procs (and rams too) arent made equal tongue.gif. I cant reach ddr1000 wit my team value and my proc luuuuuvs volts
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1.6v in BIOS selection wink.gif
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well u can see mine from screenshot......bios set 1.71v sweat.gif In windows 1.69v sweat.gif Dun dun dare stress, just quickly run superpi 1M then downclock
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Aih......i just want to clock higher with 8X multi, but cant boot higher than FSB400. Even FSB400 is not stable and often doesnt boot. But with 9X it boots without issue. Iritating!!
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oh yeah this is where i rule:) i can do 440Mhz below 1.7V laugh.gif

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duno can find 2006/2007 e2160 in those computer shop in kampung kampung or not ? haha,coz these shop usually no business,maybe still got stock
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duno can find 2006/2007 e2160 in those computer shop in kampung kampung or not ? haha,coz these shop usually no business,maybe still got stock
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No need kampung kampung la... Smaller shop then can find already... But the price is... expensive~ Anyway, I picked up an E2160 the day before yesterday at All IT which has the pack date only 12/26/2007, but its also with thin HSF.

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2007 is bad enough bor... should be 2005/2006 i think

guys, oi, anyone here knows whens the next OC competition ah
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yes lor, later batches of this e2140 and e2160 are sucky in OC.. But i am not making a generalization. There might be a chance though u might get a good one..
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How later is considered later? Which week? hmm.gif
My friend just bought an E2160 last month. 3.4GHz stock vcore...not bad really. But I forgot the stepping.

About the thin HSF, it has nothing to do with the ability of CPU. It's just Intel wants to save cost LOL. Lower TDP CPU has cheaper HSF. That's all.

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Mar 22 2008, 11:48 PM)
How later is considered later? Which week? hmm.gif
My friend just bought an E2160 last month. 3.4GHz stock vcore...not bad really. But I forgot the stepping.

About the thin HSF, it has nothing to do with the ability of CPU. It's just Intel wants to save cost LOL. Lower TDP CPU has cheaper HSF. That's all.
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mine stock best also 3.4Ghz n mine is an e2200...but mobo not stable for stress test...
so no prove now...keke...wait i get mars

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How later is considered later? Which week? hmm.gif
My friend just bought an E2160 last month. 3.4GHz stock vcore...not bad really. But I forgot the stepping.

About the thin HSF, it has nothing to do with the ability of CPU. It's just Intel wants to save cost LOL. Lower TDP CPU has cheaper HSF. That's all.
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Fair enough, about the lower TDP = cheaper Hsf.

3.4Ghz on stock Vcore = 377*9?

380Mhz is achievable on stock Vcore if your proc is right and 390Mhz is achievable if ir proc is good. I have seen an L2 step that doesn 400Mhz on stock. Which is impressive

As to batch week and numbers, told you i am not the guy.. and i think its the 2005/2006, whenever the e2 was first released...
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should be stable coz its just 40-50Mhz from the native strap of the board if the board is indeed a p35 board.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 11:52 PM)
OMG... 90% overclock with stock vcore? Stable anot 1? Anyway guys... I'm gonna try 1.8v on my E2160! Wish me luck doh.gif
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not hardcore but just... dun wanna say the word la.. ppl only do 1.8V on LN2 or DICE, maybe peltier too.. but this.. is too much.
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u wont get much out of the stock cooler.. and well, playing with such Vcore, u need to have a better cooler and a good TIM. Otherwise dont do it, later u will have a tough time with RMA.
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i am using tt big typhoon vx.. not stock cooler.. if stock cooler then i just stick with stock speed.. soooo thin hsf rclxub.gif
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not hardcore but just... dun wanna say the word la.. ppl only do 1.8V on LN2 or DICE, maybe peltier too.. but this.. is too much.
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Okok, I'll pass sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Anyone here use DFI DK P35 T2RS??
Any pro and cons??

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theres an existing thread on DFI already, there you will find all the answers you need smile.gif
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Hardcore overclocker detected.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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eh.....why do i see you here? joined darkside also? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 23 2008, 12:01 AM)
i am using tt big typhoon vx.. not stock cooler.. if stock cooler then i just stick with stock speed.. soooo thin hsf rclxub.gif
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thats a good cooler, but still not sufficient to cool a 1.7V proc.. Air cooling is not built for such high voltages... only maybe, that too maybe the TR extreme ranges.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 12:03 AM)
theres an existing thread on DFI already, there you will find all the answers you need  smile.gif
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Just found that thread. Tenkiu a lot wink.gif

QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 23 2008, 12:03 AM)
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 12:04 AM)
thats a good cooler, but still not sufficient to cool a 1.7V proc.. Air cooling is not built for such high voltages... only maybe, that too maybe the TR extreme ranges.
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not 1.7v.. dont dare to do it.. just tried 1.6v only max.. but with 3.5ghz it can be stable at 1.55v, just the temp is too terible..
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ouchies... maybe you would wanna try WC?


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will try suicide oc too tongue.gif
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not recommending that, but hey, its your procs... soooo have fun sweat.gif

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Without, your E2160 totally outrun mine doh.gif
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yeah, but well, its seriously up to luck if all your procs are M0 and perform not well...
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yeah..like me...still searching the best option or clock for my e2160..haha...dun wanna stuck @3.0GHz oni... laugh.gif
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is it 356x9 is more easier to get 3.2ghz compare to 400x8? or it is the same?
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I think 355x9 easier...
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tougher to get 400*8 instead.
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if like tat is it can get 355x9 at 3.2 at lower voltage? coz i am using 400x8 now.. i tot is the same.
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Different, because the FSB and Multiplier affect quite alot...
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not really, maybe the voltages are the same coz its overall the amount of speed that you attain.. but to reach 400Mhz on the fsb is generally tougher than playing with 355Mhz due to technical straps.
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i tried 356*9 n it's easier rather than trying for 400*8...
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u will have faster SP1M readings with 400*8 rather than 356*9 smile.gif though its 3.2Ghz in general. Its all up to the speed of the FSB smile.gif For a test, try running a p4 proc which runs at 3.2Ghz (200*16) compared to a 3.2Ghz e2140 (400*8), a huge diff.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 12:34 AM)
u will have faster SP1M readings with 400*8 rather than 356*9 smile.gif though its 3.2Ghz in general. Its all up to the speed of the FSB smile.gif For a test,  try running a p4 proc which runs at 3.2Ghz (200*16) compared to a 3.2Ghz e2140 (400*8), a huge diff.
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but p4 ad old generation tech, so cant compare like tat i think...
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older generation only suffices on the heat dissipation and the architecture of the processor. But when it comes to dead basic Pi calculations, this things dont matter IMHO. The Fsb speed rules.


Added on March 23, 2008, 12:42 amand i am trying to put the point to you that FSB does play a significant role in benchmarking rather than overall speed.

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older generation only suffices on the heat dissipation and the architecture of the processor. But when it comes to dead basic Pi calculations, this things dont matter IMHO. The Fsb speed rules.
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hmmm......would be interested to see sum1 put that to the test thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 22 2008, 11:38 PM)
No need kampung kampung la... Smaller shop then can find already... But the price is... expensive~ Anyway, I picked up an E2160 the day before yesterday at All IT which has the pack date only 12/26/2007, but its also with thin HSF.
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maybe is becoz ur is close to 2008 ,so consider new bacth,my fren bought a 2007 oso,but i forgot the month,is tall heatsink one,and today i bought a 2008 's,is thin heatsink one, anybody here tried overclock e2160 or e2140 with 945gc chipset ? wat is the highest clock u get ? i only see 2.0ghz is the highest with 945gc b4 doh.gif

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 23 2008, 12:42 AM)
hmmm......would be interested to see sum1 put that to the test  thumbup.gif
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i have done it myself, and the results are

P4 640 @ 3.2Ghz (200*16) = 40+ seconds..

Dual Core e2140 @ 3.2Ghz (400*8) = 18+ seconds....

ill get some screenies tomorrow morning and post it here..
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dun hv the 945 chipset mobo..if i wanna try the lowest chipset i'll try will be the 965p...
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 12:41 AM)
older generation only suffices on the heat dissipation and the architecture of the processor. But when it comes to dead basic Pi calculations, this things dont matter IMHO. The Fsb speed rules.


Added on March 23, 2008, 12:42 amand i am trying to put the point to you that FSB does play a significant role in benchmarking rather than overall speed.
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maybe intel scare if all e2xxx series can overclock very well,then no ppl buy their high end proc ma,so now they 'decrease' the overclockability of new e2xxx series lo tongue.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 12:45 AM)
i have done it myself, and the results are

P4 640 @ 3.2Ghz (200*16) = 40+ seconds..

Dual Core e2140 @ 3.2Ghz (400*8) = 18+ seconds....

ill get some screenies tomorrow morning and post it here..
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 23 2008, 12:45 AM)
dun hv the 945 chipset mobo..if i wanna try the lowest chipset i'll try will be the 965p...
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Mar 23 2008, 12:48 AM)
That comparison not very approriate as two different achictetures IMO.

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i am not trying to compare on architectures doink... i am only comparing on FSB speeds... too bad there aint any one here who would wanna compare 333*9 to a 375*8 on same rams, same processors and same dividers... if there is, please do post up.

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read this first liao... then comment.

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nvm bro...slowly upgrade biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Mar 23 2008, 12:48 AM)
That comparison not very approriate as two different architectures IMO.

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 12:55 AM)
i am not trying to compare on architectures doink... i am only comparing on FSB speeds... too bad there aint any one here who would wanna compare 333*9 to a 375*8 on same rams, same processors and same dividers... if there is, please do post up.
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Normally how much max Vcore safe for 24/7 usage?? Or depend on temp??

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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 23 2008, 12:55 AM)
nvm bro...slowly upgrade biggrin.gif
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ok then we will put to test, 400*8 and 355*9 then... anyone.. ill post up a screenie on 400*8 soon and make a comparison to 355*9, we will see a massive difference in times.
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i am also want to know what is the safe vcore for an intel processor..
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anything below 1.46V should be safe IMHO.
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 23 2008, 12:58 AM)
i am also want to know what is the safe vcore for an intel processor..
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safe means the lower the better laugh.gif

anyway, intel warranties their processor up to 1.50v for e2xxx series
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Mar 23 2008, 01:04 AM)
safe means the lower the better laugh.gif

anyway, intel warranties their processor up to 1.50v for e2xxx series
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eh i thought it was 1.7V... or is it another series... that they allow it.. coz u sent me an attached mail remember...


Added on March 23, 2008, 1:09 amhmm then i am sorry fellas, its 1.5V then smile.gif

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Mar 23 2008, 01:04 AM)
safe means the lower the better laugh.gif

anyway, intel warranties their processor up to 1.50v for e2xxx series
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haha...i oso just knew bout the warranty laugh.gif
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Ok....so its not an FSB wall of the proc. Just tried with my 9X multi and i raised it to FSB425(x9=3.825ghz) and the comp would boot and enter bios. But the moment i set it to 8X, the comp always hangs after rebooting. Any sifus plz advice. Tq Tq Tq
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hard to achieved 3.7ghz with 667 ram =.="
will keep try on it.. now running 3.2ghz on stock smile.gif 28c idle with no thermal paste.
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 23 2008, 01:24 AM)
Ok....so its not an FSB wall of the proc. Just tried with my 9X multi and i raised it to FSB425(x9=3.825ghz) and the comp would boot and enter bios. But the moment i set it to 8X, the comp always hangs after rebooting. Any sifus plz advice. Tq Tq Tq
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vcore was arnd 1.65v. I was just trying to test if my proc reli has an FSB wall or not....which aparently it doesnt. SO still wondering whats the problem with 8X multi sweat.gif


Added on March 23, 2008, 2:27 amCurious if any1 out there had the same prob?

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hey guys,do u all found the problem same with me ? i bought a e2160 few months ago,i check with cpuz,it is mo stepping,but jus now i format my windows and check again,it become L2,very pelik !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Mar 23 2008, 02:35 AM)
hey guys,do u all found the problem same with me ? i bought a e2160 few months ago,i check with cpuz,it is mo stepping,but jus now i format my windows and check again,it become L2,very pelik !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Mar 23 2008, 02:35 AM)
hey guys,do u all found the problem same with me ? i bought a e2160 few months ago,i check with cpuz,it is mo stepping,but jus now i format my windows and check again,it become L2,very pelik !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Same version of CPU-z ar??? hmm.gif

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ya,i check it with cpuz and everest,very pelik right ?


Added on March 23, 2008, 2:43 ami use cpu z 144


Added on March 23, 2008, 2:44 amnow using latest version,oso same

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QUOTE(xk2 @ Mar 23 2008, 02:35 AM)
hey guys,do u all found the problem same with me ? i bought a e2160 few months ago,i check with cpuz,it is mo stepping,but jus now i format my windows and check again,it become L2,very pelik !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wow.. that is the 1st case i heard of it blink.gif very pelikk
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yeah..my 1st time oso...izzit sumthing to do wit the cpu-z bug?
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@joe star...cn show me ur ss for 3.2GHz stable?
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Well stable is a relative term la. I ran OCCT for 5 hours and i consider that stable. Now I'm orthosing and proly gonna run it for 8-12 hours. Then i'll post a official screenie smile.gif
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thx bro..my orthos kantoi after 3 hours laugh.gif @3.2GHz...dunno wut's the prob..hehe..
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Same case kah? smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=657608&hl=

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Mar 23 2008, 03:37 AM)
hahaha...just wanna ask bout this too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 23 2008, 03:28 AM)
Well stable is a relative term la. I ran OCCT for 5 hours and i consider that stable. Now I'm orthosing and proly gonna run it for 8-12 hours. Then i'll post a official screenie smile.gif
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what is the vcore for 3.2 stable?
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 23 2008, 03:51 AM)
what is the vcore for 3.2 stable?
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i tried 1.375v orthos for 1 hour only.. no time to test much...
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 23 2008, 03:51 AM)
what is the vcore for 3.2 stable?
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stable Vcore for 3.2ghz (400*8) is 1.38V for me.
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i use stock vcore and 2.1 for VDIMM

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actually acceptable or not?
most ppl can oc to 3.4 ghz but mine only 2.999999999999ghz
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i think its normal, coz your speed is what everyone gets at stock speed. Probably you should start thinking about 3.4ghz instead..
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What's VID in the Core Temp thingy? Every processor got diff VIDs?
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VID is yhe stock vcore i tink. Can any1 else confirm?
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Vid is basically a value that the motherboard uses to set the core voltage, and i believe it varies with the motherboard used. Like my abit ip35-e, the Vid, is 1.325V, thats the lowest Vcore that the BIOS has. However, this is not the actual voltage of the core


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VID is yhe stock vcore i tink. Can any1 else confirm?
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O... Mine is 1.300v wink.gif
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well if your motherboard has to offer 1.30V as your lowest voltage for the processor, thus should show in Vid=1.30V too.. does it?


Added on March 23, 2008, 10:49 amhmm after a discussion with silver, i found out that the definition given by a forummer in one international forum is wrong, misunderstanding perhaps..

from IMHO, i think Vid is the how much voltage needed by the motherboard to support the strap provided by the board or the p35 chip for example. for example if the strap is 333Mhz, then 1.325V should be able to support any value at 333Mhz*n. I might be wrong... this is just an opinion

But for jargon which doesnt make sense, to me at the moment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_Identification_Digital


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hav any ppl here using E2160 + MSI Neo F combo?
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coz i cant get it stable at 3GHz....frustrating
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try 334*9? see whether you can on default voltage.. do a screenie and post it here.
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me using E2160 + MSI P35 NEO-F not combo.. haha!
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someone teach me what is exactly VID... so many definitions... experts come in...
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Mar 23 2008, 03:37 AM)
yes,same case,but different ppl asking tongue.gif after i sleep tis continue biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 23 2008, 03:26 AM)
@joe star...cn show me ur ss for 3.2GHz stable?
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Gonna use this setting for daily use. Anyway.....as for volts, its 1.44v b4 vdroop smile.gif
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btw bro...wut mobo n ram r u using?
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I'm not sure what VID stands for, for i supposed it's the min required voltage that a cpu would pass all those straineous tests [ Burn - in (hot,cold,room) , final tests etc)] So that's how the cpu is rated, Bin 1,2,3, etc

Mine for example is 1.1875vid. does 3.24ghz on 1.325v
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Woah... So VID the lower the better? Some sort categorized by quality too?
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Mar 23 2008, 12:55 PM)
I'm not sure what VID stands for, for i supposed it's the min required voltage that a cpu would pass all those straineous tests [ Burn - in (hot,cold,room) , final tests etc)] So that's how the cpu is rated, Bin 1,2,3, etc

Mine for example is 1.1875vid. does 3.24ghz on 1.325v
woo kucing, hold up... your E2140's VID is 1.1875V? shocking.gif thumbup.gif, that's good dude... wow, must be one of the rare gem huh... brows.gif
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Yeah... Sounds superb! 3.24ghz with 1.325v already very geng...
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yeah kucing does have it rare... makes my proc soundlike a mere cheapskate proc... sad.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 22 2008, 11:59 PM)
not hardcore but just... dun wanna say the word la.. ppl only do 1.8V on LN2 or DICE, maybe peltier too.. but this.. is too much.
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i have tried 1.7V on Cm Hyper 212 la... haha.
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all sifus here can show the temp in 3.2ghz full load? togater with the cooling solution? coz i feel my processor are very hot..
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Max 60'C core here... Cooling solution is Asus Triton 70 with 1 9cm and 1 8cm fan. The thermal paste will be Tuniq TX-2.
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i am using ttbtvx, with lowest fan speed, full load can goes up to 65c... even hotter than x2 @ 3.2ghz..
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 23 2008, 12:45 PM)
btw bro...wut mobo n ram r u using?
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 23 2008, 03:12 PM)
all sifus here can show the temp in 3.2ghz full load? togater with the cooling solution? coz i feel my processor are very hot..
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Can see my temp from my screenshot. It goes from 55-60 with average arnd 56 to 57. Am using tuniq tower with cap ayam thermalpaste and fully naked pc atm
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 23 2008, 04:22 PM)
Can see my temp from my screenshot. It goes from 55-60 with average arnd 56 to 57. Am using tuniq tower with cap ayam thermalpaste and fully naked pc atm
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Set the fan speed a lil higher la. I've got mine set at half.
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 23 2008, 04:34 PM)
Set the fan speed a lil higher la. I've got mine set at half.
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ermm my VID is 1.2875v. So what does that mean? Mine good or not?
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ok what... not bad lor... but seriously, i dont think it means anything in the OC world... does it?
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i change the title to

Intel Celeron (E1XXX) & Pentium Dual Core (E2XXX), so that people who bought E1XXX can join us smile.gif, IMO, E1XXX it's just another Conroe's srtripped cached from 1MB to 512KB

updated too, 1st post smile.gif... so... the only forummer i know is rlhc17, he bought E1200 and managed to get 3.6GHz, so Raymond... show us la... brows.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 05:32 PM)
ok what... not bad lor... but seriously, i dont think it means anything in the OC world... does it?
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If according to kucingfight, affect alot in overclocking... Normally we need to +0.1~0.12v to overclock an E2160 from 1.8ghz to 3.2ghz. So if you VID's 1.3v, you'll need ±1.41. Lets compare kucingfight' E2160 with a VID of 1.1875v and my E2160 with a VID of 1.3000v. kucingfight needs ±1.325v to run 3.24ghz while I need ±1.425v to run 3.2ghz wink.gif

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this is my E2160 screenie on stock voltage with VID @1.3125V, the timing not yet tweak that time... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 23 2008, 05:35 PM)
i change the title to

Intel Celeron (E1XXX) & Pentium Dual Core (E2XXX), so that people who bought E1XXX can join us smile.gif, IMO, E1XXX it's just another Conroe's srtripped cached from 1MB to 512KB

updated too, 1st post smile.gif... so... the only forummer i know is rlhc17, he bought E1200 and managed to get 3.6GHz, so Raymond... show us la... brows.gif
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alright.... but is he the only one here with a celly??
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Interesting stuff... Sooooooooooooooooooooo, what's VID for actually?
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we should ask the old timers actually, what is VID... i am noob too, i want to know whats it as well.
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i tot all same batch of processor have the same vid.. lol..
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 05:43 PM)
alright.... but is he the only one here with a celly??

yeah... currently, but hope we'll get more brows.gif, the processor pretty cheap, but not as cheap as E2140 since, last i know E2140's price @RM220~RM230, while E1200, can get around RM185~RM225 (IIANM) (pardon me if i'm wrong aight... blush.gif)

checked through some review site about the processor, seems like the cache affect the performance unsure.gif

as for the Celeron family, there's only E1200 (base on Intel Official Site), but from other source, we got E1200, E1400 and E1600 brows.gif
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cache always affects benchmarks and performance, no doubt. E2140s are not really available as much as e2160 rite? e2140 now in pczone is around rm195... but in bulk i think.. nowadays ppl rather hit the latch on e4 and e8... so more promotional drive is needed... looks like we mght hit version 3 soon..
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taken from XbitLabs.Com

just for reference aight...
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Wow...that is serious man.
Is it cache more, performance more?/

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About 20% average...
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Wow...that is serious man.
Is it cache more, performance more?/

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and also the reason wolfdale is perform better than conroe in same clock..
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 23 2008, 06:01 PM)
Yeah... That's why AMD will never be as good as Intel...
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 23 2008, 06:01 PM)
Yeah... That's why AMD will never be as good as Intel...

i think you should stop right there on comparing AMD vs Intel in this thread smile.gif, later flame war begin le... and we don't want that... unless it's AMD vs Intel thread, then it's ok la... brows.gif whistling.gif (although it's not right to do so too...)

QUOTE(DevilMan @ Mar 23 2008, 06:18 PM)
Never say never mate. Nuthing is certain.  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Mar 23 2008, 06:18 PM)
Never say never mate. Nuthing is certain.  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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honestly AMD does fall behind in Intel in this rat race... but never discard them, thsy did once pawn Intel with their Athlons and soon maybe another cycle of great procs might come from them. BUT for now, AMD fanboys do have to admit that in benchmarking, Intel does have a bigger say
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 06:29 PM)
honestly AMD does fall behind in Intel in this rat race... but never discard them, thsy did once pawn Intel with their Athlons and soon maybe another cycle of great procs might come from them. BUT for now, AMD fanboys do have to admit that in benchmarking, Intel does have a bigger say
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Yeah... That's why AMD will never be as good as Intel...
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vmad.gif enough le... later sambung², then sambung and another one sambung and it's endless topic about this vs that icon_idea.gif smile.gif
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Cant help it ler. Might be using intel but still AMD at heart tongue.gif

Either way.....haihz....any1 else got ideas about my stuck at "FSB400 with 8X multi" problem? sad.gif
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to cut short the story, in this thread, intel e2 and e1 rulez ok brows.gif X2 and Athlons or whatever AMD has is banned here.. laugh.gif Nuff Said.
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 23 2008, 07:31 PM)
Cant help it ler. Might be using intel but still AMD at heart tongue.gif

Either way.....haihz....any1 else got ideas about my stuck at "FSB400 with 8X multi" problem? sad.gif
tried on lower multiplier? tried raising the voltage on NB? i don't know (not sure though...), but that's what i did on searching maximum FSB icon_idea.gif, lowering multiplier with raising voltage and FSB like mad doh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 07:31 PM)
to cut short the story, in this thread, intel e2 and e1 rulez ok brows.gif X2 and Athlons or whatever AMD has is banned here.. laugh.gif Nuff Said.
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You use DFI DK P35 T2R-S right??
Any comment on this board??

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pws and his q.... never got your answers in the DFI thread huh.. now from AMD to DFI lol..
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 07:42 PM)
pws and his q.... never got your answers in the DFI thread huh.. now from AMD to DFI lol..
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oi sniper, mana lu, wok aloh, answer this poor kiddo ler... since u used the DFI once..
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Mar 23 2008, 07:37 PM)
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You use DFI DK P35 T2R-S right??
Any comment on this board??

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yeap, using it... well, frankly speaking, it's a good board (considering using dual core system on both Mars (as in my previous setup) and this DK P35 T2R-S)

+ve
+ good in overclocking
+ i believe can reach 500MHz FSB, only that my processor and RAM that hold it back
+ vdroop still got, but not as many on quad core system
+ fine tuning RAM timing brows.gif

-ve
- 4 layer PCB
- need a good airflow or else, "running naked" brows.gif, since the SB and NB cooler is in passive
- not as good layout as Mars (on Mars, barely touch the graphic card PCB when removing RAM)

that's all i think... other than that... none, i can't really push the board too high since i'm on crappy RAM with dual setup capalang PSU whistling.gif
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now does that answer your q, pws.... now baaack to e2 and e1... eh i am itching to buy e1 ler.


Added on March 23, 2008, 7:46 pmnow does that answer your q, pws.... now baaack to e2 and e1... eh i am itching to buy e1 ler.

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 23 2008, 07:45 PM)
oi sniper, mana lu, wok aloh, answer this poor kiddo ler...  since u used the DFI once..
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 23 2008, 07:45 PM)
yeap, using it... well, frankly speaking, it's a good board (considering using dual core system on both Mars (as in my previous setup) and this DK P35 T2R-S)

+ve
+ good in overclocking
+ i believe can reach 500MHz FSB, only that my processor and RAM that hold it back
+ vdroop still got, but not as many on quad core system
+ fine tuning RAM timing brows.gif

-ve
- 4 layer PCB
- need a good airflow or else, "running naked" brows.gif, since the SB and NB cooler is in passive
- not as good layout as Mars (on Mars, barely touch the graphic card PCB when removing RAM)

that's all i think... other than that... none, i can't really push the board too high since i'm on crappy RAM with dual setup capalang PSU whistling.gif
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I heard that Intel 45nm processor having prob in 4 layer PCB right?
So is it ok now?

It is because i plan to use 2160 1st. After that, only change to 45nm quad.

Any advise?? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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since sniper did use the e2160 he should be able to teach you ler... smile.gif
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i'm not so sure on running 45nm on this DK P35 T2R-S, but our friend here, mfcm already use E8400 IIANM icon_idea.gif, you can ask him brows.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 23 2008, 08:43 PM)
i'm not so sure on running 45nm on this DK P35 T2R-S, but our friend here, mfcm already use E8400 IIANM icon_idea.gif, you can ask him brows.gif
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woot... there is a new Celeron Duo processor launched not long ago...
E1400

well... it has 2.0Ghz compare to E1200 which only has 1.6Ghz
any comments on it ?
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since sniper did use the e2160 he should be able to teach you ler... smile.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 23 2008, 08:43 PM)
i'm not so sure on running 45nm on this DK P35 T2R-S, but our friend here, mfcm already use E8400 IIANM icon_idea.gif, you can ask him brows.gif
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i'm going to say goodbye to my ip35-e...and estimated budget for new mobo will be around rm600..dunno which mobo is gud for let say 6 months...hehe...in the near future only wanna change the proc...
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foxconn mars, just add extra rm10 lol from that budget of yours..
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i oso kinda tempted to get dat mobo but wonder the hyper 212 fit or not

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i'm going to say goodbye to my ip35-e...and estimated budget for new mobo will be around rm600..dunno which mobo is gud for let say 6 months...hehe...in the near future only wanna change the proc...
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whats wrong with the ip35-e? Pretty solid board if u ask me rclxms.gif Moreover intel are gonna change socket ady end of the year hmm.gif
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i started become lazy to reset the jumper each time boot failure..laugh.gif

btw vig bro..i will trade my ocz ram wit team elite brows.gif
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i started become lazy to reset the jumper each time boot failure..laugh.gif

btw vig bro..i will trade my ocz ram wit team elite brows.gif
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currently using bios 10 smile.gif
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wah.....quite old. Even the bios 12 that came with my board still had double booting evytime i started. Update la bro
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b4 dis i used bios 12 n 14..but bro vig said that bios 10 is better so i test it out..i dun mind abt the double boot...
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 24 2008, 12:57 AM)
whats wrong with the ip35-e? Pretty solid board if u ask me  rclxms.gif Moreover intel are gonna change socket ady end of the year  hmm.gif
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any news about intel will release new low cost processor to replace e2xxx?
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2008, 12:12 AM)
i'm going to say goodbye to my ip35-e...and estimated budget for new mobo will be around rm600..dunno which mobo is gud for let say 6 months...hehe...in the near future only wanna change the proc...
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sadly can't trade with u since u got buyer already....huhu..go for mars..gud mobo...tanyer sniper whistling.gif ...
as for Abit IP35-E..the best bios still 14..

QUOTE(xk2 @ Mar 24 2008, 09:46 AM)
intel wan change socket again mie ??

any news about intel will release new low cost processor to replace e2xxx?
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Nehalem will be release end this year n early next year...n its totally new platform..n no more fsb..been replace by quickpath...all of us will need to learn OC again... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 24 2008, 10:06 AM)
sadly can't trade with u since u got buyer already....huhu..go for mars..gud mobo...tanyer sniper whistling.gif ...
as for Abit IP35-E..the best bios still 14..
Nehalem will be release end this year n early next year...n its totally new platform..n no more fsb..been replace by quickpath...all of us will need to learn OC again... sweat.gif
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Hoho... Nehalem~ 32nm with 8 cores...
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3 weeks? Not bad~ Like vig said, can reach up to 2 months...
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 24 2008, 03:13 PM)
3 weeks? Not bad~ Like vig said, can reach up to 2 months...
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need to send back to taiwan ka??
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 24 2008, 03:25 PM)
Hahahahaha... Maybe doh.gif
BTW, DFI boards Make in Taiwan 1 wor... Your one make at where? China?
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 24 2008, 03:40 PM)
Hoho... Money for??? My next target -----------> Q9450/Q9550 rclxm9.gif
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maybe go with E8400 and foxconn mars...
plus crucial ballistix from abg shawty...
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2x 2gb? Gonna use 64-bit OS at last? Foxconn Mars ar? Not worth it to get new stuff now la... Wait till end of this year la hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 24 2008, 03:51 PM)
2x 2gb? Gonna use 64-bit OS at last? Foxconn Mars ar? Not worth it to get new stuff now la... Wait till end of this year la hmm.gif
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yezza....want to feel d excitement..hahaha..
i want to use dis set up for 2 years more then will try intel new platform...
plus a nice and decent GC...hehe...
so hows ur proc??any improvment ka??

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405x9 is the best I can do for my E2160 as P35-DS3 don't allow anything between 1.6v and 1.8v... From 1.6v straight jump to 1.8v... Aiks aiks doh.gif
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sadly can't trade with u since u got buyer already....huhu..go for mars..gud mobo...tanyer sniper whistling.gif ...
as for Abit IP35-E..the best bios still 14..

Why 14 ar?? can tell me plz? Im looking for cure to my 8X multi problem sad.gif
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Why 14 ar?? can tell me plz? Im looking for cure to my 8X multi problem sad.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 24 2008, 03:12 PM)
just got a call frm seller and they said need to wait 3 weeks for rma..
is dis standard??
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dun put ur hope tinggi tinggi, dude. I happen to rma some hardwares before, promise me 1 month can get back already. But in the end, i have to wait for nearly 3 months. blink.gif
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Any P35-DS3 users tried out F13a and F3b BIOS yet?
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Mar 24 2008, 04:52 PM)
dun put ur hope tinggi tinggi, dude. I happen to rma some hardwares before, promise me 1 month can get back already. But in the end, i have to wait for nearly 3 months.  blink.gif
That is their "standard", as far as i know  doh.gif
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that's true nod.gif even i rma my optical oso more than 6 weeks..
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rmaing processors take a very long time... i hate the waiting.. so better dun burn your procs, and even if u want to, make sure u have a spare.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 24 2008, 06:57 PM)
rmaing processors take a very long time... i hate the waiting.. so better dun burn your procs, and even if u want to, make sure u have a spare.
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burned a processor can still rma?
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i think so smile.gif a friend of mine did that.. laugh.gif
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the faster rma for me is with my Biostar TP35D2-A7...4 days...send Sunday get it back on Thurdays...the longest one...is my ram...from chinese new year until now...not coming back yet... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 24 2008, 07:49 PM)
the faster rma for me is with my Biostar TP35D2-A7...4 days...send Sunday get it back on Thurdays...the longest one...is my ram...from chinese new year until now...not coming back yet... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

brows.gif, kinda shock when knowing known, good reputable shop won't accept the board even though actually we bought it from them... doh.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Mar 24 2008, 04:52 PM)
dun put ur hope tinggi tinggi, dude. I happen to rma some hardwares before, promise me 1 month can get back already. But in the end, i have to wait for nearly 3 months.  blink.gif
That is their "standard", as far as i know  doh.gif
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like dat oso can hapen r??
darn...i need to buy a new mobo then....cant tahan that long...
need to oc again with bios 10...
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then foxconn mars FTW la...hehe..btw abg penembak tepat...between mars n dfi which one u would recommend me to buy? biggrin.gif
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Hmm... Foxconn Mars got flashy heatsinks wink.gif
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Haaaa...... sweat.gif after a few days tried booting up my pc, now manage 2 get it running @ 3.42ghz.... Yeahooooo rclxm9.gif Cum any E2180 user try 2 beat me... tongue.gif

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Hoho, finally~ Go go post your SP1M result rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2008, 09:09 PM)
then foxconn mars FTW la...hehe..btw abg penembak tepat...between mars n dfi which one u would recommend me to buy? biggrin.gif
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just now, i looked out d review between those two and i really2 fall in love with mars...
so flashy!!! brows.gif brows.gif
yet, deliver a very good performance....
on d price wise, dfi dk p35-t2rs is cheaper and has d same result with mars...
need to choose wisely then... rclxub.gif
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can share the review?
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afraid if my cm hyper 212 cannot fit the mars sweat.gif
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foxconn mars is good if you have the money.
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Hoho, finally~ Go go post your SP1M result rclxm9.gif
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Err.... I bet its 19s-20s or above..... whistling.gif Dunno y cannot clock higher FSB.... Now @ 342x10 sad.gif only after change BIOS
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yes should be around 18-19+ seconds.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:04 PM)
yes should be around 18-19+ seconds.
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2008, 09:09 PM)
then foxconn mars FTW la...hehe..btw abg penembak tepat...between mars n dfi which one u would recommend me to buy? biggrin.gif
i'd go for Mars brows.gif, why? you get a lot freebies and IMO, i rather to go for higher end DFI than low-end DFI because of the feature offered, not that overclocking la, but the heatsink and so on... icon_idea.gif, not to mention, UT got 6 layer PCB which is better than 4 layer icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2008, 09:38 PM)
afraid if my cm hyper 212 cannot fit the mars sweat.gif
IMO, your Hyper 212 should be allright, my HR-01 can fit nicely not even touching the NB heatsink...
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:17 PM)
i'd go for Mars brows.gif, why? you get a lot freebies and IMO, i rather to go for higher end DFI than low-end DFI because of the feature offered, not that overclocking la, but the heatsink and so on... icon_idea.gif, not to mention, UT got 6 layer PCB which is better than 4 layer icon_idea.gif
IMO, your Hyper 212 should be allright, my HR-01 can fit nicely not even touching the NB heatsink...
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thx 4 da help bro...btw where cn get the mars from this forum since u dun wanna buy from LYP coz of the price sweat.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 24 2008, 10:42 PM)
thx 4 da help bro...btw where cn get the mars from this forum since u dun wanna buy from LYP coz of the price sweat.gif

it's RM585 from DaRkSyThE @ Foxconn Mars
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price dropped huh, last time rm610..; now sniper poison with foxy mars... wok aloh, dulu u pakai lepas tu u juai, apalah lu
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Hmm... I might wanna get 1 too wink.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 24 2008, 11:47 PM)
Hmm... I might wanna get 1 too wink.gif
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bro...the MOQ is 5...so r u joining?? brows.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 25 2008, 12:42 AM)
bro...the MOQ is 5...so r u joining??  brows.gif
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My nex board but not now...spent cash for something else ad... sweat.gif
My friend is using it too...he's happy for all i know...


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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 24 2008, 11:48 PM)
hmm no more abit huh... now foxconn... ouch.. nevermind la.. soon also, back to abit again brows.gif
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You'l have lesser probs with mars than quad GT bro wink.gif

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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 25 2008, 12:42 AM)
bro...the MOQ is 5...so r u joining??  brows.gif
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damn tempting la bro... drool.gif
need to start saving for mars...! shocking.gif
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hello all..
today i'm tried to O.C my e2140, before this i already o.c it - FSB 350x8 / ram divider 2.4 = DDR2 840

so this morning i up FSB to 375 (my hope can get 375*8 = 3000MHz) / and set RAM diver to 2
then my pc booting, but blue sreen when windows startup, my pc automatic reboot, i enter back to BIOS, set it back to my last succesfull o.c (fsb 350)

but, after enter windows, i open up CPU-Z, my cpu show at default speed/fsb = 1600MHz / FSB 200 (default for e2140)

then i shutdown, enter BIOS again, see my setting, BIOS setting showup my FSB=350, cpu speed at 2800MHz, but when enter windows, cpu-z detect my proc at default speed/fsb

then i clear cmos, setting back fsb, but same result

is't my proc burn... or my mobo KO already?

my pc spec is
proc e2140
mobo ga-p35-ds3 rev2.1
value ddr2 667 kingston
powerlogic 350w true power
asus 8400gs
os vista ultimate 32bit sp1

UPDATED..... Fuhhhhhhhhhh Fuhyoooo.. settle already ma... make me rclxub.gif ... everything back to normal, after i turn off my pc / pull out wall plug,then give my pc rest about 10minutes.. then turn back on, setting back bios to last succes o.c... rclxm9.gif

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editted..wrong post tongue.gif

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QUOTE(akuinsan @ Mar 25 2008, 11:10 AM)
hello all..
today i'm tried to O.C my e2140, before this i already o.c it - FSB 350x8 / ram divider 2.4 = DDR2 840

so this morning i up FSB to 375 (my hope can get 375*8 = 3000MHz) / and set RAM diver to 2
then my pc booting, but blue sreen when windows startup, my pc automatic reboot, i enter back to BIOS, set it back to my last succesfull o.c (fsb 350)

but, after enter windows, i open up CPU-Z, my cpu show at default speed/fsb = 1600MHz / FSB 200 (default for e2140)

then i shutdown, enter BIOS again, see my setting, BIOS setting showup my FSB=350, cpu speed at 2800MHz, but when enter windows, cpu-z detect my proc at default speed/fsb

then i clear cmos, setting back fsb, but same result

is't my proc burn... or my mobo KO already?

my pc spec is
proc e2140
mobo ga-p35-ds3 rev2.1
value ddr2 667 kingston
powerlogic 350w true power
asus 8400gs
os vista ultimate 32bit sp1

UPDATED..... Fuhhhhhhhhhh Fuhyoooo.. settle already ma... make me  rclxub.gif ... everything back to normal, after i turn off my pc / pull out wall plug,then give my pc rest about 10minutes.. then turn back on, setting back bios to last succes o.c...  rclxm9.gif
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huh,... whats the point of the whole thing you said dude... you sound like youre blogging here brows.gif
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WAAAAAA.......... cry.gif juz 2days njoying my pc after OC it @ 3.42ghz... which i m very hapee to archive it, now my pc is DEAD!!! jeng.....jeng.....jeng..... shocking.gif PSU died edi..... cannot use at all..... cry.gif Luckily got backup pc.... sweat.gif


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haha welcome to la la land... so how now? buy new psu la:)
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 26 2008, 12:53 AM)
haha welcome to la la land... so how now? buy new psu la:)
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Yup, wat else can i do.... cry.gif Now juz looking @ my pc dat is bed ridden.....hahahaaha laugh.gif
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you asked for it dude... only silly ppl oc 100% with cap ayam... by the way, u can qualify as extreme already.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Mar 26 2008, 01:01 AM)
Yup, wat else can i do.... cry.gif  Now juz looking @ my pc dat is bed ridden.....hahahaaha laugh.gif
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get a new psu and oc it again dude.. smile.gif
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just sold my mobo n now waiting for zhen wei to confirm my order on foxconn MARS rclxm9.gif
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how much the mars cost?
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rm610 from zhen^wei smile.gif
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i thought u can get it from darkscythe for rm580? Going for mars huh, heizad... soon soon ill use mars smile.gif but see what my board can do against mars, would be a good competition smile.gif
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since too many ppl using ip35-e n ds3...I sold my ds3 n change my mobo to DFI "besi berdarah"...the red color board really eye catching...pairing it with red sapphire gfx look very nice in the casing...just a quick test 3.2GHz@1.4v easy....i can't do much as my ram not yet come back...the mobo vdroop quite nice...0.032v...not like ds3 n ip35-e that got very high vdroop...later will try playing around as u know the DFI bios got many things to tweak sweat.gif ...the best part when starting up the pc...the intro bios screen become red color with "Blood iron" logo...nice wub.gif

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 26 2008, 08:01 AM)
i thought u can get it from darkscythe for rm580? Going for mars huh, heizad... soon soon ill use mars smile.gif but see what my board can do against mars, would be a good competition smile.gif
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that price is for bulk n currently no one is joining..that's why i order from zhen wei since easier to cod wit him...in upm area oni smile.gif
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 26 2008, 09:20 AM)
since too many ppl using ip35-e n ds3...I sold my ds3 n change my mobo to DFI "besi berdarah"...the red color board really eye catching...pairing it with red sapphire gfx look very nice in the casing...just a quick test 3.2GHz@1.4v easy....i can't do much as my ram not yet come back...the mobo vdroop quite nice...0.032v...not like ds3 n ip35-e that got very high vdroop...later will try playing around as u know the DFI bios got many things to tweak sweat.gif ...the best part when starting up the pc...the intro bios screen become red color with "Blood iron" logo...nice wub.gif

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wow.. seem like a promising board.. how much u bought it?
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 26 2008, 10:12 AM)
wow.. seem like a promising board.. how much u bought it?
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DFI board always hav good reputation notworthy.gif ....now cheap already...the Blood Iron is RM340 new at Robyncom...

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 26 2008, 10:14 AM)
DFI board always hav good reputation notworthy.gif ....now cheap already...the Blood Iron is RM340 new at Robyncom...
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yea.. especially the price drool.gif so sad i dont see this board 1 week ago.. if not i might grab it ady cry.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Mar 26 2008, 01:15 AM)
you asked for it dude... only silly ppl oc 100% with cap ayam... by the way, u can qualify as extreme already.. laugh.gif
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hahahaha.... laugh.gif after dis, 110% oc.... drool.gif 3.42ghz wit cap ayam PSU... ok laa... After dis wanna try 3.6ghz wit true powaaah PSU plak c how my baby goes... thumbup.gif
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how is the vcore and temp for 3.42?
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i just got a E2220, IP35E and 2G Mushkin 800 valueram over the weekend, the stock cooler is really small - can sifus here advise if want to do just mild oc to 3.0GHz - can use the stock cooler?

im still googling around on how to oc this processor mildly - what FSB and multipler - my prev system is a sempron 1.6@2.2, so outdated and a bit lost now. sweat.gif

thx in advance

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 26 2008, 10:24 AM)
how is the vcore and temp for 3.42?
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Da VCore is @ 1.53v n da temp on full load between 68-72c.... sad.gif I know... my water cooling sux... cry.gif
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@rozz_1291
I din know you were OCing ure proc with cap ayam PSU...nice OC thow

@flattie bro
Blood Iron looks nice plak.... doh.gif drool.gif control control

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Mar 26 2008, 10:49 AM)
Da VCore is @ 1.53v n da temp on full load between 68-72c.... sad.gif  I know... my water cooling sux... cry.gif
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wow.. it is gud for processor to run at 3.4ghz with more than 60c 24/7, coz i am thinking to do it..? i am noob in intel oc...
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 26 2008, 10:56 AM)
wow.. it is gud for processor to run at 3.4ghz with more than 60c 24/7, coz i am thinking to do it..? i am noob in intel oc...
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1.The best is to see how far you can go with stock vcore..
2.Your electricity bill if you run @ 3.4 with much higher vcore 24/7 moneyflies.gif cool2.gif
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QUOTE(kimi @ Mar 26 2008, 10:41 AM)
i just got a E2220, IP35E and 2G Mushkin 800 valueram over the weekend, the stock cooler is really small - can sifus here advise if want to do just mild oc to 3.0GHz - can use the stock cooler?

im still googling around on how to oc this processor mildly - what FSB and multipler - my prev system is a sempron 1.6@2.2, so outdated and a bit lost now. sweat.gif

thx in advance
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Abit user help this fella la...

QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Mar 26 2008, 10:49 AM)
Da VCore is @ 1.53v n da temp on full load between 68-72c.... sad.gif  I know... my water cooling sux... cry.gif
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walauwei...used wc so high...

QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 26 2008, 10:54 AM)
@rozz_1291
I din know you were OCing ure proc with cap ayam PSU...nice OC thow

@flattie bro
Blood Iron looks nice plak.... doh.gif  drool.gif control control
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the startup screen very2x cool whistling.gif ...vdroop oso nice...hav to find time to play with it later...

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 26 2008, 10:59 AM)
1.The best is to see how far you can go with stock vcore..
2.Your electricity bill if you run @ 3.4 with much higher vcore 24/7  moneyflies.gif  cool2.gif
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i can do 3.0 @ 1.3v..
dont care electricity bill atm.. lol icon_idea.gif
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@flattie bro

Blood iron at RM340 new is really good price..i thought bro kmac bought the board second also more exp...the price dropped so fast?


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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 26 2008, 11:06 AM)
i can do 3.0 @ 1.3v..
dont care electricity bill atm.. lol icon_idea.gif
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Thats ok ady mah bro... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 26 2008, 11:06 AM)
@flattie bro
Blood iron at RM340 new is really good price..i thought bro kmac bought the board second also more exp...the price dropped so fast?
last time Blood Iron RM500+...the new one lack of some feature if im not mistaken...not sure what its....that's y the price a bit cheapo..

QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 26 2008, 11:06 AM)
i can do 3.0 @ 1.3v..
dont care electricity bill atm.. lol icon_idea.gif
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normally all E2 series can do 3.0GHz at stock vcore... thumbup.gif

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post Mar 26 2008, 11:11 AM

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yea is ok ady.. but ppl is always wan much ma.. brows.gif
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post Mar 26 2008, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 26 2008, 11:07 AM)
the new one lack of some feature if im not mistaken...not sure what its....that's y the price a bit cheapo..
Bro can you pls check when your free and let me know here? thanks in advance notworthy.gif

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post Mar 26 2008, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 26 2008, 11:12 AM)
Bro can you pls check when your free and let me know here? thanks in advance notworthy.gif
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i oso dunt know maa...its true or not...or maybe its the price drop matter...from the physical look...the only different can be see if the words written on the NB heatsink....the previous one been written as INFINITY...the new one BLOOD IRON...

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post Mar 26 2008, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 26 2008, 11:07 AM)
last time Blood Iron RM500+...the new one lack of some feature if im not mistaken...not sure what its....that's y the price a bit cheapo..
normally all E2 series can do 3.0GHz at stock vcore... thumbup.gif
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at robyncom the dfi dk p35 oni rm510 brows.gif but i still go for the mars thumbup.gif
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post Mar 26 2008, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 26 2008, 11:40 AM)
at robyncom the dfi dk p35 oni rm510  brows.gif  but i still go for the mars  thumbup.gif
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DK has nice layout n color... thumbup.gif ...Mars layout oso nice...hehe...let see how high u can OC using that board later...huhuhu
anyway lets go back to topic about E2 series...sory guys notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Mar 26 2008, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 26 2008, 11:40 AM)
at robyncom the dfi dk p35 oni rm510  brows.gif  but i still go for the mars  thumbup.gif
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no mars @robyncom ke??
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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 26 2008, 11:42 AM)
DK has nice layout n color... thumbup.gif ...Mars layout oso nice...hehe...let see how high u can OC using that board later...huhuhu
anyway lets go back to topic about E2 series...sory guys notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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bro, dont want to make some short review bout ur blood iron??
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 26 2008, 11:44 AM)
no mars @robyncom ke??
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no...they didnt bring it in...dunt know later got or not...depend on the demand kot..
QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 26 2008, 11:46 AM)
bro, dont want to make some short review bout ur blood iron??
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so sory guys...my tracer not coming back yet from RMA...my E2160 can't do much with this ocz gold that i borrow from my fren...really sax ram...im running it at very2x loose timing...1:1 356Mhz 5-5-5-15....only the heatspread look nice shining gold look like... doh.gif

what can i said about BI is the vdroop very nice n low...0.032v on orthos running thumbup.gif ...as ppl know...the Bios full of feature to tweak... thumbup.gif

what's bad...ppl that used HSF like Xigmatek will be paisey...the NB heatsink is high...the HSF will langgar it...

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post Mar 26 2008, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 26 2008, 11:50 AM)
no...they didnt bring it in...dunt know later got or not...depend on the demand kot..

so sory guys...my tracer not coming back yet from RMA...can't do much with this ocz gold that i borrow from my fren...really sax ram...im running it at very2x loose timing...1:1 356Mhz 5-5-5-15....only the heatspread look nice shining gold look like... doh.gif

what can i said about BI is the vdroop very nice n low...0.032v on orthos running thumbup.gif ...as ppl know...the Bios full of feature to tweak... thumbup.gif

what's bad...ppl that used HSF like Xigmatek will be paisey...the NB heatsink is high...the HSF will langgar it...
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BI highest fsb is??
i'm in dilemma now...
either mars or BI...
BI tempting cuz d price...
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 26 2008, 11:59 AM)
BI highest fsb is??
i'm in dilemma now...
either mars or BI...
BI tempting cuz d price...
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hehehe..this one is tempting drool.gif the bios can be set until 700

550fsb
BI on 550fsb
625fsb
BI on 625fsb

if u got extra money ..u can go for DK or Mars for sure... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(flatfinger @ Mar 26 2008, 12:02 PM)
hehehe..this one is tempting drool.gif the bios can be set until 700

550fsb
BI on 550fsb
625fsb
BI on 625fsb

if u got extra money ..u can go for DK or Mars for sure... icon_rolleyes.gif
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just checked d webbie...
700mhz is darn tempting...
but d pcb i a bit long rite??
kinda awkward tho...
but will look around sumore or wait till robyncom got mars...
maybe RM560??
hahahaha...

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