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 Intel Celeron (E1XXX) & Pentium Dual Core E2XXX, Discussion & Compilation [v2]

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post Mar 15 2008, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Mar 15 2008, 01:17 PM)
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hmm..even after i OCed to 3.3ghz I still can't break the 18s barrier  blush.gif  hmm.. must be my rams limitation, i think  hmm.gif
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Your RAM not enuff high freq and the timing very loose..

My E2160 @ 3510Mhz can do 17.9s .. Ram not good .. doh.gif

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post Mar 28 2008, 10:46 AM

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Got money to spend on water cooling but don't want buy better PSU..
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post Mar 29 2008, 10:02 AM

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Run x8 multiplier with higher FSB and try again.
Your RAM performance will increase also with high FSB.
IF this board capable of doing 500Fsb.. Then use x6 multiplier.
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post Mar 29 2008, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 29 2008, 12:03 PM)
hmm.. any method to determines which one is hit the wall ady?
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Use lowest multiplier.. Then slowly increase FSB using windows overclock tool.. That is to find highest FSB..

PSU also affect FSB.. If use low wattage PSU.. Can't get high FSB..

Previously i use AMD .. 300w true power only get 360HTT.. 400w true power get 390HTT.. 30HTT different already can get 300Mhz..
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post Mar 29 2008, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Mar 29 2008, 12:16 PM)
in window, processor wont hit it max fsb?
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What do you mean by that? rclxub.gif

I don't know about other people but the way I figure out max FSB is like this :-
  • Set to the lowest multiplier possible. My case is x6
  • Then set the RAM to the lowest clock with timing 5-5-5-15
  • Then use window overclock tool. Mine is EasyTune5 Pro
  • Use Orthos to stress while I slowly increase the FSB
  • My system hang at 435FSB. So, my safe point is 400FSB
I guess my PSU not enuff juice. doh.gif

The best setting for me ( Always use the highest FSB possible ) .. 400x8 = 3.2Ghz .. Don't use 355x9 = 3.2Ghz..

I don't know why Intel chip don't like x7 multiplier..

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post Mar 29 2008, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 29 2008, 12:24 PM)
Depends also.....my system is weird. Can hit FSB400+ with 9X multi but if i use lower multi, it wont boot anywhere higher than FSB395 rclxub.gif
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That is normal lar bro .. Each multiplier can't do the same FSB but not much different la.. Maybe 5~10 FSB only.. smile.gif
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post Mar 29 2008, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Mar 29 2008, 01:49 PM)
sure, go to bios and change it back lor smile.gif

smells like the bios boot block resetted itself due to OC phail/instable or its a bug with the bios for standby to wakeup.
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sorry ya, i couldn't get a replacement card :'<
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that is because the north bridge core clock is running on dividers if you drop the cpu multi.

E2160 is 9x multi right?

so when you drop the multi from 9 to 8 and put in 400 Mhz,
the NB internal clock is actually running at 9/8 = 1.125
so, its 400Mhzx 1.125 =450Mhz (1800Mhz quad pumped)

that is why you couldn't get it stable smile.gif
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No problem lar.. I understand.. One day no PC to use can die..

I already bought ASUS.. Not bad lar but cannot OC as good as XFX which is the brand i like.. wub.gif
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post Mar 30 2008, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 30 2008, 12:19 AM)
not reli........now i cant even go above FSB375 with 8x multi but 9x multi can go to FSB425 rclxub.gif
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Something wrong with RAM izzit? smile.gif
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post Mar 30 2008, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(andx517 @ Mar 30 2008, 10:58 AM)
hi evryone  smile.gif  i wanted to share my result as below,
if i set to 6*400 cant boot meants my FSB wall is less than 400?  sad.gif 
when i set to multipier 8 the CPU speed display wrongly, is this normal? sad.gif  but able to run orthos stable for more than 4 hours, still can go on but i didnt wait..

as for ram, may i know what is the default voltage for it? V1.8? but Easytune5pro shows 1.9, even i raise +v0.1 it still shows 1.9V , which look weird to me  cry.gif

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Not really .. Maybe can get 410FSb at x8 multiplier? tongue.gif

That is the only way for me to find max FSB ..

Just saw the mobo u using.. I can do 440FSB with x6 multiplier.. Saw people doing 500FSB .. So I suspect my PSU not enuff juice.. BUT you 400FSB only? Check other setting.. Something wrong..

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post Mar 31 2008, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(andx517 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:59 AM)
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cant wor, 8*400 / 8*410 / 6*400 / 6*410 all cannot boot, Black screen sad.gif

what are the others setting had to check? mind to teach? please icon_question.gif
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Not very sure if there's any other way ..
Your mobo shouldn't have problem running 400FSB because it is built to run 1600Mhz for OC ..
Your E2160 can run 3.0Ghz @ 1.38v? Volt in BIOS reading or CPU-z reading?
Mine can run 3.2Ghz @ 1.38v CPU-z reading ..
Why don't you try set the RAM divider to the lowest possible? Then stress again.. IF fail then try add +0.1v to Mch and NB.. Stress again..
You have to try one by one to know which cause the problem..

I also having problem now.. Run 1.6v but system hang coz not enuff juice already from PSU.. doh.gif
Haiz... Now i trying to figure out what is wrong coz not getting satisfying temperature.. Using Thermalright SI-120..
Previously with stock cooler running 3.2Ghz @ 1.38v .. Load is 71c~75c.. Use SI-120 is 54c~58c..
Now i run 1.42v CPU-z reading and stress... Getting 70c.. What a bad cooler.. doh.gif

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post Mar 31 2008, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 31 2008, 09:29 AM)
FSB bro FSB...
always go with high FSB...
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He already got 16sec+ ...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=429808

I guess RAM is the big issue to get good result in SuperPI..
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post Mar 31 2008, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 31 2008, 11:41 AM)
dont read dat b4...
so go tight ur ram then?
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From what I've seen.. It may not be accurate..

All those with 16s+ is using Crucial Ballistix Tracer..

Mine running at 3600Mhz but 17s+.. doh.gif
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post Mar 31 2008, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:12 PM)
I use Tracer and run 17.422 only with E2160@3.384ghz sweat.gif
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Yeah.. That's what I'm talking about.. With good RAM can get good result..

17.422s @ 3.3Ghz not good kar? Mine 17.8s @ 3.6Ghz.. doh.gif

If you overclock to 3.6Ghz.. 16s+ no problem at all.. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(andx517 @ Mar 31 2008, 02:52 PM)
thanks for the advice, i try to search bryans post 1st, will update u soon smile.gif
BIOS reading V1.38125, cpu-z 1.344V, i tried add 0.1V to MCH, same thing cannot boot..but ill try again will update you guys smile.gif
haha cooler? my E2160 comes with E4500 Stock cooler(From Seamonster one), Load 65-70..
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Bro, vcore not enuff lar.. sweat.gif
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(andx517 @ Mar 31 2008, 03:18 PM)
you mean for 400*3? currently 3.04Ghz V1.38 can run orthos 4 hours ++ still not enough ar =x
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Not 400x3 cause it doesn't exist..

I meant u said 1.344v on 3.2Ghz ( 400x8 ) cannot boot...

My 1.38v can run 3.2Ghz.. tongue.gif Go change better cooler dude..

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post Mar 31 2008, 04:20 PM

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Is this normal or what? I use stock or other cooler also dun have this kinda weird problem..
You see the temperature.. Climb up and down .. Can't stay at small gap like 68c~70c..

Is it becoz the 120mm fan that I am using? 2995rpm.. Vibrate quite strong..

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post Mar 31 2008, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 31 2008, 04:52 PM)
Hmm, the temperature rise and drop is because the stress isn't constant. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Previously run ORthos priority 8 stress.. The temperature stays at 73c~75c.. 2c gap only.. Stock cooler..
Don't know what's wrong now .. Stress 100% all the time.. Temperature gap over 10c..

Ur asus triton sure rocks.. 55c load temp.. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 31 2008, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Mar 31 2008, 07:06 PM)
wat is ur max speed with cl4?
try 4:5 divider if ur ram capable for ddr1000 cl4
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Teamvalue only lar bro.. Not D9 chip.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 31 2008, 07:13 PM)
max speed with cl4 is only arnd 850mhz sweat.gif

team value ram.....and not 1 of the lucky ones i tink sweat.gif
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Even my Team Elite 2Gb kit can't do 1000MHz CL4.. Not the lucky 1.. nod.gif

QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 31 2008, 07:07 PM)
FSB and RAM and Cache freq is a big factor to get a good result in SuperPI. You'll understand after seeing this.
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Bro, you run 3.4Ghz need how many vcore to stable?

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post Mar 31 2008, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 31 2008, 07:30 PM)
1.525v (I think can less) in BIOS selection can rock stable at 3.375ghz... Never tried 3.4ghz..
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Thanks for the information..

Stressing at 1.531v BIOS read / 1.472v Windows reading @ 3.4Ghz ..

Lucky my processor is not bad batch..

QUOTE(coolice @ Mar 31 2008, 07:31 PM)
c'mon,d9 is cheap nowadays tongue.gif
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Yeah .. RM 2xx can get 1066MHz D9 CL4 .. blush.gif

Too bad cannot afford at the moment.. sweat.gif
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post Mar 31 2008, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Mar 31 2008, 07:44 PM)
RM2xx 1066Mhz D9 Cl4? You mean after overclock?
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Sorry.. typo .. CL5.. sweat.gif

After overclock only can CL4..

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