What now?
Found during annual check, wasn't even pre-diabetic on prior check
Doc just said lifestyle change gave some meds and that's it.

No resources or anything.

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This post has been edited by rtk73: Sep 2 2025, 12:20 PM

Rrk74 kena diabetes? What what now? Just cut down on all sugary drinks and foods la. Eat more vegetables. Fruits a bit as those have sugar too. Carbs also cut down, eat more lean meat.

Don't drink at all,
No more coffee/tea/cola/beer etc etc. Haven't drink sweet drinks more than a year

Veggies are always part of menu.
Most likely the grapes I've been binging on + carbs/pasta/noodles/breads

do you feel any changes physically prior to test ? like tired,sleepy all the time etc
curious to know this as well ..

whats your blood sugar level?

usual advice... cut out completely rice and sugar, and you can still eat everything else (add vege to replace the bulk of rice) pretty much for the time being.

fruits should be fine if you keep the same portion and don't go load up on high sugar fruits.

Type 1 or type 2 bro? Type 2 can reverse as far as I know with proper diet and weight management.

welcome to the club....so oral medi or injection or both?

u need to completely change your lifestyle immediately

when i say immediately, it means today right now
lifestyle as in your working hours, your workout and your food intake, your sleep, your daily water intake

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jan 10 2025, 01:17 PM

change diet

cut sugar

exercise

if not say bye bye to toes or leg soon

ts health style veli unhealthy ka? tiba2 got diabetes?

Same2 ni difference

Tested was 11

Type 2

Oral

Stress, too stress
So constantly sleep deprived

damn dangerous
no signs or warning one - will go for my blood test this coming sunday

to get diabetus not purposlly need to eat drink sweet stuff only kena 1...

just need the pancereas to die/not fully working to get.....sugar is contain in so many stuff....just imagine your filter rosak and the sugar start to build up in the body then bam...u got diabetus liao

anyway no big deal or end of the road...i gotten diabetus since over 15 years i think....not yet die

simple fast way...just pee on a bottle cap and put near ant area....u will get the answer aready

This is the oldest method to determine diabetes in medical history

Get this if u need sweet drinks. Have been using this for years already if I need to sweeten my coffee and tea. Can't remember when was the last time I bought sugar.

Beware, u need only a very very small amount to sweet it. Don't like me when first time use, accidentally put too much and almost puke out due to tooooooo sweet.

https://www.nowfoods.com/products/natural-f...-powder-organic

start prolonged fast now before its too late.
eliminate all those viseral fat come first.
you will get sugar spike in the morning with fasting , but it was meant to be as those fat converted glucose will be transfer to the bloodstream first before it got burned by the body cells

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 10 2025, 01:52 PM

Go find kelab diabetes in fb. There 100% you can control ur bg.

Not all fruit can take,look for berries family.
No potato's or underground plant.
Most tropical fruits can spike ur bg.
Cut carbo if u can, limit it.
No bread no metter grain or non grain bread.
Option for flour use coconut flour or almond flour.
Ketchup, souces can spike ur sugar too.

If ur renal is good, protien is ur fren.
Don't eat after 7pm let your body rest
Iitimetent fasting good too, but no such food I mention above.

This post has been edited by cheesey: Jan 10 2025, 02:17 PM

Take it with statin will be better.. helps lower down inflammation and help metabolic and burn down your sugar..

Ask ur doctor first if it will be good to supplement with it

Type2 diabetes usually combo package with cholesterol

My piss no sugar


Thanks!
Again, I don't drink sugary stuff
Maybe once a few months?

Yeah.... Planning to do intermittent
Join the mussies during fasting too, but not their indulgence in food intake

Yup, figures no carbs much anymore
Renal is gud,

Was given atorvarstatin which is just statin

Stuff like this Just adds the overall stress

Ok atova is good. Shud be ranging 20mg is ok

Those rice and wheat derived food also need to be careful.

No need to stress, stress can bring your bg high also. It won't kill you in 1 or 2 yera, if you control you can life longer like other healthy person. Just don't late take action. If you late all ur organ also will rosak slowly due to uncontrolled bs.

11 is random. Or hba1c? If hba1c work hard to get it to normal range.

Yup.


Yeah I really like bread, rice & noodles. More than meat

I think that's the cause. Excessive carb intake.

Hba1c
Hopefully it was due to overall stress
Tested it during year end

Still browsing through blood glucose monitors

fasting

Was planning to starting next week of course hahahahhaha

Fruits also high in sugar. Especially grapes/orange/apple

Find cheap one, the strip cheap also can. Sinnocare also good. The strip cheap look at shopee no need high end. All reading won't same if u check, but that what your range. Hba1c check accurate.

If you want control I suggest u record what you eat, then after 2 hour check your glucose. If high that food is no no.and monitor how much or portion suitable. You need find this yourself.

This post has been edited by cheesey: Jan 10 2025, 02:32 PM

Yup... Think throughout 2-3 months nonstop ate grapes

Sinocare OK? Read that it's readings swings up an down

Yes it's ok. Many thst club use that. All also not accurate. But the given number not cheat one la. Some watch give random number also BP checker. Sinnocare still ok. The stirp cheap. You need many strip to monitor. If you can afford buy CGM, not cheap, good for type 1.

This post has been edited by cheesey: Jan 10 2025, 02:36 PM

I recently went to hospital putrajaya

They have a nice dietician department and i see a lot of chubby patient seeking treatment there

You may want to consider getting advise there to better manage your diet

This post has been edited by loui: Jan 10 2025, 02:44 PM

change diet. cut/no sugar. exercise. buy self testing kit.

Start exercising. Start with 2000 steps a day. what diet also can't help you now cause u won't have self control

Ts, also don't drink vitamin c soluble. I used.to drink 2 cups a day & it contribute to sugar level & Doctor confirmed. Dumb I know but thought that sugar level was very low & was actually more concerned about sodium level contents.

I did check ingredients but really couldn't find on sugar level so assumed it would be very low. I seldom drink soft drinks so I immediately suspected that vitamin c was the culprit when got my test results

Also try drinking misai kucing tea. I am currently taking gbt brand & it really helped in reducing my hpa1c level.

I drank 1 cup a day for about 3 weeks and took a non fasting test at health Lane. Dropped from 6.7 to 6.0 & now I am taking 2 cups a day which is the max u can drink per day.

U can also try taking biogrow oat bg22. It's more for reducing cholesterol but also does reduce blood glucose.

Also banana

Will do

Basically my plan

Already doing 5-8k per day


I take normal ones will look back the sugar contents

Got link?
Not into oats
How much at healthlane?

My choco banana bread!!

My sister buys misai kucing for me through organic shop but you can buy it at shopee from the producer itself. Price is rm 30 for 1 box.

Producer seller name is Good Brothers. Sorry, me uncle don't know how to do link.

Health Lane the price for hpa1c test is rm28 for.members & rm 31 for.none

ts one thing need to mentioned that exercise are not sufficient to manage your sugar and fat loss. most of the glucose were used by the normal function of your body(breathing, heat regulation, heart pumping, brain function, immunity system etc) in order to keep your alive.

so die2 you need to do calories deficit. whether you like or not. eating much lesser will be a good start.

good. do it on a treadmill then with 5% incline. and start lifting weights

Get ozempic

Share your lifestyle change journey

Actually thinking about it
Would fix both diabetes & fat ness

do you think fatness is one of the factor lead to your diabetes?

Nahhhhhhhhhhhh

Been fat throughout most of my life
Sugar/cholesterol etc etc been in check

won't fix if lifestyle remain the same.
it will curb hunger but still need to do the work at the same time.
basically it work like assisting you.

11, fasting? If yes, that's not onset.

No rice and white sugar. No potato, no carbonated drinks.

Take bihun, noodle, veggie, egg, meat for the time being. Tak kenyang, You are not suppose to. Small portion multiple intake.

Take chicken chop, steak, whole fish if you feel weak

Take a walk after meal

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 10 2025, 10:40 PM

all good until your cells refused to store more glucose.
you should be aware that fat cells are destroyed over time. when fat cells gone, more and more cells will be insulin resistant. hence more glucose stay in the bloodstream.

thats the reality of life, when you get older, you should eat lesser. thats is why many old people said you should enjoy eating while you still young.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 10 2025, 10:43 PM

Won't deny.

Yeah, bihun still carbs bro
Today ady 10k
I walk abit everyday

Oh yeah, sorry ts forgot to mention that biogrow bg22 oats is in powder form per sachet. It's not quacker oats type of cereal.

Take one sachet mix with half cup of water right before each meal.

First few times, best to take it on your off days just in case cause purging until use to it.

Not end of the world, unker diagnosed for Type 2, 20 years ago. Just change of lifestyle. No over drinking of beer, liquor to plotek kidneys. Gradually cut down on sugary drinks and food, you know-la...no need to tell you which ones. Get some exercise, start light and then more as you progressed, unker started short marathons on top of weight training at gym, dancing for cardio to lose inches. Cut down rice, prob 1-2 times a day until can totally cut-off, do it for 3 months and go for urine test not blood as it's more accurate. I started with 9.0 glucose level to 3.3 now but will go back up if I stop my discipline. Less jogging now as knees not strong but still doing 1 hour cardio 5x a week and weights.

Fact is, not onli potong kaki, you will go blind suddenly from glaucoma as the nerves in your eyes will be weakened by the excess glucose and lack of insulin produced by your body. Your whole nervous system will go haywire, especially yr legs as you will feel numb there and sometimes itchy which you can't scratch it off especially under your soles. Your dick will be affected as well, so no more 3x sex a day, more like 3 months one time if you can maintain an erection. Blue pills need to be doubled but need to check BP first as heart will not be strong due to diabetic medication eg metformin. When you first start taking it, you shit watery or soft stool, plus lots of gas in your bowels. So, to lessen the impact, need to start from today, eat less, exercise more and sleep more as well.

diabetes only.

1. no sugar.
2. no/low carb. whole grain/ whole wheat bread is ok.
3. vege, vege, no sugar sauce, mayo.
4. blood test when feel ill/pain.

Certain teas contain compounds that may help optimize diabetic control. Plus, drinking tea can help you stay hydrated, which is essential for healthy blood sugar regulation.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/tea-fo...etics#best-teas

This post has been edited by Phoenix_KL: Jan 11 2025, 01:35 AM

Its not the carbs, it's the fats



This post has been edited by icehart85: Jan 11 2025, 02:32 AM

welcome to the club.

diabetes is the main evil that will also introduce additional illness like high blood pressure etc, if you do not manage it well.

did doctor request you to go for insulin injection? if not your case is nothing like real diabetes.

Every food contain of sugar and carbohydrate. You have to be very careful for the food intake. Even rice , fruit also can influence your body sugar level

diabetes not necessarily can get from sweet food and drinks.. if u eat too much carbs and you're sedentary, can get also.. anyway type 2 can be reversed just need to be committed.. completely avoid carbs from bread/pasta/rice and just stick to green veggies as they should already contain carbs that your body needs.. avoid sweet fruits.. eat protein more to help you satiated.. but consult with your doctor first before incorporating this diet change.. you'll be fine ts

This post has been edited by iammasivers: Jan 11 2025, 07:59 AM

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Thanks! Will look into it


No injection
Piss no glucose

You want to know true pre diabetic you must do serum insulin.

Yes doctors normally dont do until its quite late.

Fat cells increase insulin resistance. Its SCIENCE

Now you know one of your major risk factor.

Cut your fat percentage.

Increase your muscle mass.

All this will increase insulin sensitivity.

Sleep early and manage your stress too.

Even this pipu with high cortisol (stress hormone) will have increase blood sugar because during stres, your body needs a lot of energy hence cortisol, a catabolic steroid will breakdown glycogen, fat, muscle to sugar causing hyperglycaemia.

Forget supplement and do basic essential lifestyle changes first.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Jan 11 2025, 02:30 PM

you got it wrong, more fat cells improve insulin resistance. its when the fat cells become too big(in cell size, not quantity), it become a problem.
fat cells main function is to store glucose, the others cells are pretty much rejecting to store glucose with the exception of liver.

as per gemini ai:


This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 11 2025, 03:36 PM

so when someone is fat, he has big fat cells or more fat cells?

do you want to do biopsy to find out?
if their a1c is high, likely the cell is big, more cell or not is different matter. if someone can hit 500lbs (pure body full of fats),then pretty much they have tons of fat cells. a slight reduction of their weight can make the diabetes go away.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 11 2025, 04:07 PM

my family got diabetes history so i want to prevent it in any way I could, I notice since primary school my dad and mum ada perut buncit ady that time

Ya i mean gemuk as in larger fat cells. Fat cells dont add in number when gemuk iinm. You get what i mean. Im correcting the notion that gemuk doesnt affect sugar uptake.

Edited: checked my info. Actually both occur.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Jan 11 2025, 04:20 PM

then most likely your family genetic dont make much fat cells. you are not only alone, mine too. if i increase my weight to around 100kg pretty much fasting glucose reading will mess up and the tolerance get worse over time.

I kenot allow myself become fat leh, I veli 自恋

No u got it wrong. Short term only but long term its still increasing insulin resistance. Please recheck. Good i learn something new today

general consensus said people get their lemak increase when they increase weight. maybe for kids or young adult, it is true. but for middle age, eldely age people, not so much, you probably have fat cells destroyed due to aging instead.

the study dont include normal looking people with fat hyperplasia la. its always those morbidly obese wan.
but anyway, body dont find the need to produce cells in large number if it doesn't require it to begin with. of course this doesnt account to genetic information.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 11 2025, 04:30 PM

hmmmm sorry to heard that, from now on u better careful yea. I seen real life diabetes struggle a lot , even walking too, they need sit down and rest a lot

Never heard of it

Doing OK, can still walk 10k per day

Some tips from Dr Fung & Dr Nicki


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U type 2?

Yours is type 2 diabetes.
Type 2 can be reversed through low carb / keto diet.
Cut carbs and sugar.

I never had diabetes but I am on low carb diet for 5 years already.
Lost 25kgs and I am now lighter and fitter than when I was younger.
I also do cardio and strength training 2 times every 3 days.

I don't eat bread, rice, noodles, pasta, pizza, basically anything that is high carb.
I also avoid ultra processed foods.
I eat fruits but avoid fruits like grapes, durian that is high in sugar content.
Guava and avocado is low in sugar content.

Actually can buy one tin, no need sachet la. Just take by the scoop.

Oats got many form. Not necessary go for this powder form. This one more mahal, lower calorie.

Exactly as your doctor said: lifestyle change and some meds to help.

I hope you don't buy into healthy food to eat for diabetic thing and then went to eat more healthy food. You don't get healthy by stuffing your face with healthy food.

Ask the doctor for dietician consult. And most importantly lifestyle change.

To ts, how old are you?

i was diagnosed with diabeetus (intensifies) too... about 3 years ago... i think partly because my family is genetically prone to it... plus mostly - I am couch potato..





I have since changed my diet - quite drastically...

I will avoid carbs as much as I can.... ie: no frank carbs like rice, noodle, bread, potatoes...
and I also avoid sugary drinks... now my 'favorite' drink is black coffee (with a few tablets of Equal)

my blood glucose is now well controlled... and I lost 15kg....

What I eat daily is eggs (fried, boiled)... veges (i like long beans and terung)... some fried Tempe...

also - watch this... ALL OF IT.

doctor say after certain age 'like 30' my guess,i forgotten
after that age all diabetis is catagorize as type 2 only kids got category type 1

for ADULT all is type 2
type 2 is ENDGAME yo

type 2 hardlly can be cured, unless u change your pancerius part to a working 1

This post has been edited by poco loco: Jan 12 2025, 03:38 AM

Yeah trying to decrease it

Sub 35

Yesterday checked got 6.8
Had one slice of durian. Kek
Don't think I can just die2 cut everything tho

Depends on
1. How much you value your legs
2. If you want to keep your kidney
3. If you want to develop heart attack

If you value all that, cut. If not BAU.

No. Don't give wrong info.

weight?

wtf only 35, I thought you 50+

I got pre diabetic almost 15 years back during my 20+

Now no more diabetic sometimes pre diabetic.
Hba1c 5%-5.8% yeah not optimum but okay lor.

Just doing low carb 15 years back doing keto but cant sustain too long, scare die faster doing keto all the way

No such thing as long as healthy keto and not unhealthy keto.
Keto better than getting diabetic.