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icehart85
post Jan 11 2025, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jan 10 2025, 01:13 PM)
Don't drink at all,
No more coffee/tea/cola/beer etc etc. Haven't drink sweet drinks more than a year

Veggies are always part of menu.
Most likely the grapes I've been binging on + carbs/pasta/noodles/breads
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Its not the carbs, it's the fats smile.gif



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post Jan 14 2025, 06:38 AM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 11 2025, 02:29 PM)
Fat cells increase insulin resistance. Its SCIENCE

Now  you know one of your major risk factor.

Cut your fat percentage.

Increase your muscle mass.

All this will increase insulin sensitivity.

Sleep early and manage your stress too.

Even this pipu with high cortisol (stress hormone) will have increase blood sugar because during stres, your body needs a lot of energy hence cortisol, a catabolic steroid will breakdown glycogen, fat, muscle to sugar causing hyperglycaemia.

Forget supplement and do basic essential lifestyle changes first.
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This is correct. Cut your fat intake. How low? Less than 3g per serving.


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post Jan 14 2025, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 11 2025, 03:24 PM)
you got it wrong, more fat cells improve insulin resistance. its when the fat cells become too big(in cell size, not quantity), it become a problem.
fat cells main function is to store glucose, the others cells are pretty much rejecting to store glucose with the exception of liver.

as per gemini ai:
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icehart85
post Jan 14 2025, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 11 2025, 04:18 PM)
then most likely your family genetic dont make much fat cells. you are not only alone, mine too. if i increase my weight to around 100kg pretty much fasting glucose reading will mess up and the tolerance get worse over time.
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Omg please ignore the messages from this fellow guys. Why diabetes is an epidemic now is because of these kind of responses. bangwall.gif
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post Jan 14 2025, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 11 2025, 04:21 PM)
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No u got it wrong. Short term only but long term its still increasing insulin resistance. Please recheck. Good i learn something new today
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You can use Chat GPT to fact check.

How Whole Food Plant Based (WFPB) diet can reverse Type 2 diabetes.


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post Jan 14 2025, 06:47 AM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jan 11 2025, 05:48 PM)
Some tips from Dr Fung & Dr Nicki
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post Jan 14 2025, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jan 12 2025, 12:58 AM)
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i was diagnosed with diabeetus (intensifies) too... about 3 years ago... i think partly because my family is genetically prone to it... plus mostly - I am couch potato..
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I have since changed my diet - quite drastically...

I will avoid carbs as much as I can.... ie: no frank carbs like rice, noodle, bread, potatoes...
and I also avoid sugary drinks... now my 'favorite' drink is black coffee (with a few tablets of Equal)

my blood glucose is now well controlled... and I lost 15kg....

What I eat daily is eggs (fried, boiled)... veges (i like long beans and terung)... some fried Tempe...

also - watch this... ALL OF IT.

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Are you on diabetic medication?
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post Jan 14 2025, 06:52 AM

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QUOTE(poco loco @ Jan 12 2025, 03:36 AM)
doctor say after certain age 'like 30' my guess,i forgotten
after that age all diabetis is catagorize as type 2 only kids got category type 1

for ADULT all is type 2
type 2 is ENDGAME yo

type 2 hardlly can be cured, unless u change your pancerius part to a working 1
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Wrong, proper diet and lifestyle intervention can eliminate Type 2.

Type 1 is the one that can't be eliminated.
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post Jan 14 2025, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 12 2025, 11:54 AM)
You havent update you reading on scientific literature.aybe because its not your job or passion. Go read what david Sinclair or Valter Longo said both are authority in longevity field. Btw Valter longo advocates fasting mimicking diet.

Fyi im in keto/low carb field of expertise since 15 years already. I dont do hype kind of keto.
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Did you get your kidney checked? What medication are you on?
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post Jan 14 2025, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(heinlein @ Jan 12 2025, 12:01 PM)
I used to totally quit sugar except rice, I got low sugar in blood and almost pengsan in my air flight, now i have to eat a little bit of sugar
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Try low fat instead of low carb. Your body will thank you.
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post Jan 14 2025, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 12 2025, 12:38 PM)
So you do know the impact of ketosis  on the microbial diversity and the hormones? Yes you need to modify because increasing LDL due to high fat diet although some say large fluffy LDL is good, its not as good as it sound.

I agree LCHF is good but not really high fat. Its best keep to enough protein, moderate healthy fats.

My concern is deep ketosis. Not really LCHF. You cant really do ketosis and high intensity workout at the same time as efficient as glucose albeit "unclean" energy. Believe me. Ive done ketosis for many years since 15 years back when even many doctors against my practice. Its not even a thing in the west, malaysian still on high carb low fat diet that time.
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No! Malaysians are never on high carb low fat. More like high carb high fat! mad.gif
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post Jan 14 2025, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2025, 04:17 PM)
It helps the microbial as far as I know. Heck if you feed both soluble and insoluble fibres to the microbes they will thank you by producing short chain fatty acid which is very beneficial to you. It reduces inflammation.

I don't think I am in deep ketosis. But I know fasting and exercise is the only way to  improve insulin sensitivity and reduce insulin resistance. Cause you want to get rid your visceral fat (inflammatory fat in your body).

I do OMAD and on and off 48H fast with the diet as mentioned above. My diet got lots of veges, minimum fruits.
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No wonder you have problems. You get rid of your visceral fat by eating more fat? Lol
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post Jan 14 2025, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 14 2025, 11:44 AM)
Low fat is so 80's 90s. Its new millenia laa..can do own reading unless lazyass like those so called fatty expert up there.
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Doesnt matter, its effective, why fix something that's not broken? Problem is people think it's boring because not many can tahan their high fat junk food meat addiction
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post Jan 14 2025, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(heinlein @ Jan 14 2025, 01:38 PM)
i still eat healthy fat and at least exercise on weekends
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No such thing as healthy fats. All fats are bad.
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post Jan 14 2025, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 14 2025, 11:46 AM)
Ya thats even worst high carb high fat. Well our diet recommendation is high carb low fat anyways. Not my cup of tea for healthy lifestyle. Food pyramid is laughable even to professor in diet face.

They the expert couldnt even answer why for many decades we are on this abomination diet. True story.
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Define low fat. Give me percentage figure
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post Jan 14 2025, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 14 2025, 11:42 AM)
Hahaha. Thats jus bs propaganda by the mainstream. I even take in thousands mg of vitamin C daily but my kidney is healthier than thousands in the hospital because of taking drugs.

Do check on hospital statistics main cause of kidney/liver failure. I can assure you 100% each and every, not most. EVERY SINGLE hospital.. top main cause is drugs ..iatrogenic.

Definitely not keto diet, not supplements or herbs in the top list.

Can ask or investigate if you dont believe. You will get many excuses and justification from the mainstream. It is called CAPITALISM.
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Irrelevant as I'm not comparing with them.

If you are still healthy with 15 years keto diet, I dont think you are doing the standard keto diet. Most would be dead by now.


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post Jan 14 2025, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 14 2025, 05:53 PM)
Yiu think keto diet must stick with ketosis daily forever is it? You main hantam apa pun taktau lah. Go and read some more and come back okay?
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LOL you think you know more than me. Eventhough you have 15 years keto diet experience, I also not that far off from you. 10 years vegan biggrin.gif

I do read a lot of paper studies. Mostly on plant based diets. Keto? One look and I already know its inferior. tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2025, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 14 2025, 05:53 PM)
Yiu think keto diet must stick with ketosis daily forever is it? You main hantam apa pun taktau lah. Go and read some more and come back okay?
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Lol you focused on ketosis only. Why you didnt read up on long term studies on keto diet?

 

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