You want to know true pre diabetic you must do serum insulin.

Yes doctors normally dont do until its quite late.

Fat cells increase insulin resistance. Its SCIENCE

Now you know one of your major risk factor.

Cut your fat percentage.

Increase your muscle mass.

All this will increase insulin sensitivity.

Sleep early and manage your stress too.

Even this pipu with high cortisol (stress hormone) will have increase blood sugar because during stres, your body needs a lot of energy hence cortisol, a catabolic steroid will breakdown glycogen, fat, muscle to sugar causing hyperglycaemia.

Forget supplement and do basic essential lifestyle changes first.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Jan 11 2025, 02:30 PM

Ya i mean gemuk as in larger fat cells. Fat cells dont add in number when gemuk iinm. You get what i mean. Im correcting the notion that gemuk doesnt affect sugar uptake.

Edited: checked my info. Actually both occur.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Jan 11 2025, 04:20 PM

No u got it wrong. Short term only but long term its still increasing insulin resistance. Please recheck. Good i learn something new today

I got pre diabetic almost 15 years back during my 20+

Now no more diabetic sometimes pre diabetic.
Hba1c 5%-5.8% yeah not optimum but okay lor.

Just doing low carb 15 years back doing keto but cant sustain too long, scare die faster doing keto all the way

You havent update you reading on scientific literature.aybe because its not your job or passion. Go read what david Sinclair or Valter Longo said both are authority in longevity field. Btw Valter longo advocates fasting mimicking diet.

Fyi im in keto/low carb field of expertise since 15 years already. I dont do hype kind of keto.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Jan 12 2025, 12:01 PM

Nope its quite common nowadays than what many pipu think. Its just that i checked regularly because i have easy access to health screening and i have family history of diabetes.. A lot of undiagnose prediabetic actually. Most come at late stage irreversible damage.

Prediabetic is the easiest stage to reverse hyperglycaemia. In4 better low sugar low carb since childhood but yeah. I agree on that. Prevention is better than cure.

Check your serum insulin guys. Its better early than late diagnosis by your doctor.

So you do know the impact of ketosis on the microbial diversity and the hormones? Yes you need to modify because increasing LDL due to high fat diet although some say large fluffy LDL is good, its not as good as it sound.

I agree LCHF is good but not really high fat. Its best keep to enough protein, moderate healthy fats.

My concern is deep ketosis. Not really LCHF. You cant really do ketosis and high intensity workout at the same time as efficient as glucose albeit "unclean" energy. Believe me. Ive done ketosis for many years since 15 years back when even many doctors against my practice. Its not even a thing in the west, malaysian still on high carb low fat diet that time.

Nope. More studies indicate ketogenic diet reduce microbial diversity albeit some mixed result.

I dont disagree with fasting and exercise. Its just they way people do KD without monitoring and understanding the effect of the diet to the body, mainly gut issue and hormonal affects.

Heck people dont even know what is keto flu and how did it happened ..thats outrageous. Keto diet without knowledge is as dangerous as following mainstream diet haha.

No im not referring to you. I think its okay to go with that diet as long as you know what you are doing. I use to demonise high fructose laden fruits but now im more leanient. I take various fruits but not much. Not as much like what KKM/FDA suggest.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Jan 12 2025, 05:45 PM

This i agree. But more variety doesnt mean need as much. Not fructose laden fruit at lease. Pick variety but dont eat too much as advocate by kkm. Their diet is horrible for hormonal balance and body recovery.

You need to understand de novo lipogenesis doesnt occur by eating more fat. Its not the main driven factor. Sugar and process carb is one of the main culprit

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Jan 14 2025, 11:29 AM

No lah, cut body fat percentage not fat intake.
Fat intake including cholesterol doesnt increase as much body fat as compare to sugar or carb.

Both also not wrong. You and him. Its just tthat u dont understand the concept. Higher fat cell is protective so the more u take sugar carb the more Higher your body fat and insulin level to protect your body from sugar damage.

Hyperinsulinemia itself is a disease though not recognise by mainstream practice. It is the hallmark of diabetes heck even a sign of prediabetes.

I dont need to check its my area of expertist. Thanks for the info though.. I read collin campbel on 7 country studies and i like content from dr gregor too. Any kind of diet as long as low sugar low ultra processed food is okay to me. ..both low carb high carb got pro and cons lah just need to be wary of it.

Hahaha. Thats jus bs propaganda by the mainstream. I even take in thousands mg of vitamin C daily but my kidney is healthier than thousands in the hospital because of taking drugs.

Do check on hospital statistics main cause of kidney/liver failure. I can assure you 100% each and every, not most. EVERY SINGLE hospital.. top main cause is drugs ..iatrogenic.

Definitely not keto diet, not supplements or herbs in the top list.

Can ask or investigate if you dont believe. You will get many excuses and justification from the mainstream. It is called CAPITALISM.

Low fat is so 80's 90s. Its new millenia laa..can do own reading unless lazyass like those so called fatty expert up there.

Ya thats even worst high carb high fat. Well our diet recommendation is high carb low fat anyways. Not my cup of tea for healthy lifestyle. Food pyramid is laughable even to professor in diet face.

They the expert couldnt even answer why for many decades we are on this abomination diet. True story.

This post has been edited by fist_Aileron: Jan 14 2025, 11:47 AM

Yes..natural fats like lard, tallow, cheese and fatty mill whixh is demonise by the mainstream western diet is not broken until the capitalism make business out of the so call new finding. They even created synthetic industrial trans fat that they- WHO themselves admit killing 500,000 people annually - go read the statement by WHO.

Meanwhile they ask us to eat high inflammatory Omega-6 oil like soybean, sunflower oil and take high carb food. Food pyranid is one of the most bebal kind of diet one could ever follow. You eat all the junk cornflakes cereals stuff because Nutritional Society of Malaysia (NSM) tells u its good breakfast, heck they are sponsored by industrial capitalist BIG FOOD prozionist they never care about humanity nor our health.

Our health became worsen because of their advice and the blame are only on us, not them.

Do u not use brain, they suap our baby with Milo poison since our mother in labour room, they give cakes, susu pekat in oncology ward for cancer patients kununnya to prevent cachexia.. but it accelerate the cancer growth. The health authority either crazy ignorant or simply dumb following orders from western health authority without own brain. Anything we refer from our neighbouring HSA before taking action. Well, yiu want to follow dumb diet, up to ya.

You ask check with KKM lah they forever advocate low fat.. you dont know ah our dietary guideline is low fat??

Go read guideliness dude

Yiu think keto diet must stick with ketosis daily forever is it? You main hantam apa pun taktau lah. Go and read some more and come back okay?