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post Jun 14 2020, 02:06 PM, updated 4y ago

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post Jun 14 2020, 02:38 PM

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post Jun 14 2020, 02:44 PM

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its been so long not in here haha
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post Jun 14 2020, 06:13 PM

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post Jun 14 2020, 07:41 PM

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i survived v31. woo hoo !
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post Jun 14 2020, 09:34 PM

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post Jun 14 2020, 09:44 PM

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post Jun 15 2020, 11:53 AM

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post Jun 15 2020, 07:39 PM

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congratulations on v32 biggrin.gif
tiba2 teringat my first ever post in LYN mechanical keyboard thread was in V7. LOL
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post Jun 16 2020, 06:57 AM

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back in v1, i was still wondering why the rave reviews about rubber dome keyboards when mkbs existed. just surprisingly not well known at least in the lowyat forum when i looked at the time hmm.gif

and those prices for so called gaming keyboards (rubber dome) doh.gif I also bought into this, i had a logitech G15. it was ok, but then i later found out about mkb, and after making that switch (no pun intended)...... i felt silly spending that money on a logitech rubberdome gaming keyboard sweat.gif the typing experience was shockingly night and day difference.


these days, it's probably a harder sell for rubber dome (so called) premium gaming keyboards, when there are lots of mkb options out there (especially the linear switches like reds etc, that are ideal for gamers. or if you are casual like myself, then something like mx browns or similar tactile switches are more your thing nod.gif )

there is still a place for rubberdomes, for the cheapest possible keyboards (maybe you want to prioritize your budget for a better cpu, graphics card or monitor, because you are on a tight budget, that's fine). but when asking for premium prices, they SHOULD NOT be rubberdome keyboard puke.gif

Now V32 , mkb is very popular and well known. and even brands like logitech is selling mkbs these days. mission accomplished thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 16 2020, 06:57 AM)
back in v1, i was still wondering why the rave reviews about rubber dome keyboards when mkbs existed. just surprisingly not well known at least in the lowyat forum when i looked at the time  hmm.gif

and those prices for so called gaming keyboards (rubber dome)  doh.gif  I also bought into this, i had a logitech G15. it was ok, but then i later found out about mkb, and after making that switch (no pun intended)...... i felt silly spending that money on a logitech rubberdome gaming keyboard  sweat.gif  the typing experience was shockingly night and day difference.
these days, it's probably a harder sell for rubber dome (so called) premium gaming keyboards, when there are lots of mkb options out there (especially the linear switches like reds etc, that are ideal for gamers. or if you are casual like myself, then something like mx browns or similar tactile switches are more your thing  nod.gif )

there is still a place for rubberdomes, for the cheapest possible keyboards (maybe you want to prioritize your budget for a better cpu, graphics card or monitor, because you are on a tight budget, that's fine). but when asking for premium prices, they SHOULD NOT be rubberdome keyboard  puke.gif

Now V32 , mkb is very popular and well known. and even brands like logitech is selling mkbs these days. mission accomplished thumbup.gif
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post Jun 16 2020, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 14 2020, 12:17 AM)
in general, 104/204 has lower viscosity than 105/205. for switches with lighter springs, 104/204 should be good. however, the suitability part is really based on your own preferences.
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I see. If for example, assuming nothing else is changed, and I wanted more resistance out of the keys, would 205g0 be better?
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 16 2020, 06:57 AM)
back in v1, i was still wondering why the rave reviews about rubber dome keyboards when mkbs existed. just surprisingly not well known at least in the lowyat forum when i looked at the time  hmm.gif

and those prices for so called gaming keyboards (rubber dome)  doh.gif  I also bought into this, i had a logitech G15. it was ok, but then i later found out about mkb, and after making that switch (no pun intended)...... i felt silly spending that money on a logitech rubberdome gaming keyboard  sweat.gif  the typing experience was shockingly night and day difference.
these days, it's probably a harder sell for rubber dome (so called) premium gaming keyboards, when there are lots of mkb options out there (especially the linear switches like reds etc, that are ideal for gamers. or if you are casual like myself, then something like mx browns or similar tactile switches are more your thing  nod.gif )

there is still a place for rubberdomes, for the cheapest possible keyboards (maybe you want to prioritize your budget for a better cpu, graphics card or monitor, because you are on a tight budget, that's fine). but when asking for premium prices, they SHOULD NOT be rubberdome keyboard  puke.gif

Now V32 , mkb is very popular and well known. and even brands like logitech is selling mkbs these days. mission accomplished thumbup.gif
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i still keep those rubber dome gaming boards (steelseries; got rgb some more lol)

it's quite a journey to me. found out a lot of things, yet still discover stuff every now and then hehe

QUOTE(Chyan @ Jun 16 2020, 08:59 PM)
I see. If for example, assuming nothing else is changed, and I wanted more resistance out of the keys, would 205g0 be better?
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yes. if coupled with lighter springs, you will feel that resistance if you applied sufficient amount of 205g0. it will feel like your switches are having 'relatively heavier' springs.
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hi banana here..

budget rm500-rm600.. ( prefer physical shop )

gaming(dota) and typing.(blogger)

( brown chery switch ? any better switch for me?)

aim for ducky one 2 tkl rgb for now..

any mech better than this at my budget?

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post Jun 18 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(doomvein @ Jun 18 2020, 10:48 AM)
hi banana here..

budget rm500-rm600..

gaming(dota) and typing.(blogger)

( brown chery switch ? any better switch for me?)

aim for ducky one 2 tkl rgb for now..

any mech better than this at my budget?
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there is a multi-part crowdsourcing done at mymkb gb page recently, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMec...75307712705452/

you should check it out.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 18 2020, 10:38 AM)
there is a multi-part crowdsourcing done at mymkb gb page recently, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMec...75307712705452/

you should check it out.
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prefer physical shop because just want to cash and carry . anyway thank smile.gif
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post Jun 18 2020, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 18 2020, 11:38 AM)
there is a multi-part crowdsourcing done at mymkb gb page recently, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMec...75307712705452/

you should check it out.
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I'm a Facebook noob. Don't know how to vote.

Just scrolled down to the TX films group buy. Some people have received theirs! And my order was placed a few days before the post.

Took only 10 days for it to get from TX in Cali, to LA, to Taiwan, and then to KL.

Then yesterday only cleared Kastam. Took Kastam 7 days to clear it!!!
bangwall.gif mad.gif vmad.gif ranting.gif
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post Jun 18 2020, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 18 2020, 12:29 PM)
I'm a Facebook noob. Don't know how to vote.

Just scrolled down to the TX films group buy. Some people have received theirs! And my order was placed a few days before the post.

Took only 10 days for it to get from TX in Cali, to LA, to Taiwan, and then to KL.

Then yesterday only cleared Kastam. Took Kastam 7 days to clear it!!!
bangwall.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  ranting.gif
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Not even 5 minutes after I posted this, I heard the postman. Was it my films??? No...but this.
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A box of connectors. Tested them and the 5 pin is the correct size for my IKBC. Stay tuned for a custom coiled cable for my non-removable-cable prebuilt sometime in the near future.

It's this one btw:
#Aliexpress MYR 7.50 10%OFF | 230pcs PH2.0 2p 3p 4p 5 pin 2.0mm Pitch Terminal Kit / Housing / Pin Header JST Connector Wire Connectors Adaptor PH Kits
https://a.aliexpress.com/_dURxoda

Ordered 5 May already arrived.
Switch stickers ordered 19 April still MIA. Sigh....
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QUOTE(doomvein @ Jun 18 2020, 12:21 PM)
prefer physical shop because just want to cash and carry . anyway thank smile.gif
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try ask here, i think the admins there own a shop. not sure what shop anyway.
with ur budget, i think u can get a leopold. a very recommended prebuilt kibod.

QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 18 2020, 12:29 PM)
I'm a Facebook noob. Don't know how to vote.

Just scrolled down to the TX films group buy. Some people have received theirs! And my order was placed a few days before the post.

Took only 10 days for it to get from TX in Cali, to LA, to Taiwan, and then to KL.

Then yesterday only cleared Kastam. Took Kastam 7 days to clear it!!!
bangwall.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  ranting.gif
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reading regarding ur films, i pity u. if i were u, i also kinda angry oledy. knnccb ranting.gif
bcoz yes, i bought from garage sales, and the gb, both are with me safely oledy.

inb4,
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post Jun 18 2020, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(doomvein @ Jun 18 2020, 12:21 PM)
prefer physical shop because just want to cash and carry . anyway thank smile.gif
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ok

QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 18 2020, 12:29 PM)
I'm a Facebook noob. Don't know how to vote.

Just scrolled down to the TX films group buy. Some people have received theirs! And my order was placed a few days before the post.

Took only 10 days for it to get from TX in Cali, to LA, to Taiwan, and then to KL.

Then yesterday only cleared Kastam. Took Kastam 7 days to clear it!!!
bangwall.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  ranting.gif
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that's not the voting post. you can look the actual vote page with group search. keywords should be 'crowdsourcing vote' i think.

i guess it's better to just get stuff from local gbs or whatever shops that are at aliexpress/taobao/tmall possible. quovadis123 might have extras also for tx switch films and springs.

QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 18 2020, 12:45 PM)
Not even 5 minutes after I posted this, I heard the postman. Was it my films??? No...but this.
Attached Image
A box of connectors. Tested them and the 5 pin is the correct size for my IKBC. Stay tuned for a custom coiled cable for my non-removable-cable prebuilt sometime in the near future.

It's this one btw:
#Aliexpress MYR 7.50  10%OFF | 230pcs PH2.0 2p 3p 4p 5 pin 2.0mm Pitch Terminal Kit / Housing / Pin Header JST Connector Wire Connectors Adaptor PH Kits
https://a.aliexpress.com/_dURxoda

Ordered 5 May already arrived.
Switch stickers ordered 19 April still MIA. Sigh....
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oh you're doing a detachable cable mod? this is very nice!

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post Jun 18 2020, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 18 2020, 01:12 PM)
ok
that's not the voting post. you can look the actual vote page with group search. keywords should be 'crowdsourcing vote' i think.

i guess it's better to just get stuff from local gbs or whatever shops that are at aliexpress/taobao/tmall possible. quovadis123 might have extras also for tx switch films and springs.
oh you're doing a detachable cable mod? this is very nice!
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Yeah...I'm stubborn. lol

I don't know if it's going to be detachable. But definitely coiled. Maybe aviator or lemo connector in between to make it detachable. Aviator is big and chunky to me, but lemo is expensive.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 18 2020, 01:24 PM)
Yeah...I'm stubborn. lol

I don't know if it's going to be detachable. But definitely coiled. Maybe aviator or lemo connector in between to make it detachable. Aviator is big and chunky to me, but lemo is expensive.
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haha

right it's just an individual preference. i prefer boards with detachable cables so i can cabut and jalan

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got the giant v2 switches made by jwk (the manufacturer who makes durock switches). this switch has two things that i'm interested in:

1. gold-plated progressive springs, 62g;
2. transparent housings (i suspect it's the same for typical durock switches that have become popular these days).

from my brief tests on switches only:

1. switch top wobbles are common. (randomly picked 5 switches to test; 3 of them have it) switch films are required;
2. smooth at stock (pre-lubed at factory with low-viscous lube); it's oily from the outside also; pretty similar to gateron ink

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 18 2020, 12:57 PM)
try ask here, i think the admins there own a shop. not sure what shop anyway.
with ur budget, i think u can get a leopold. a very recommended prebuilt kibod.
reading regarding ur films, i pity u. if i were u, i also kinda angry oledy. knnccb  ranting.gif
bcoz yes, i bought from garage sales, and the gb, both are with me safely oledy.

inb4,
console.gif
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Spring 7 peket ikat tepi mana?
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 18 2020, 04:09 PM)
Spring 7 peket ikat tepi mana?
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comes together with the films gb.

tp tak beli 7 la.
bought 4 only. 65g, 2x67g, and 70g.
and the seller ikat mati, safer it seems. lul
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jun 8 2020, 10:17 PM)
Ok Looking forward hearing from ur update!

Meantime Im reading this.. and got a bit more understanding on the suitable keycaps:

Tecware Phantom L Review
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Just had some time to assemble the new keycaps! For RM18 not bad, some of the bottom edges have some residue that can be sanded off. The top surface is pretty rough too, almost a sandy gritty feel.
I'm pretty sure they're OEM profile too, but they fit and have similar height from bottom of keycap to the base of the keyboard. However they are much higher on the top face as you can see from the images below. Overall not bad for the price, but I'll be looking for some better ones in the future! They definitely look better than the original keys HAHA.

https://pictr.com/images/2020/06/18/7HrjRv.md.jpg
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If I had a choice between stainless steel and brass plates, which one would give me more thock? I'm assuming brass as it is the softer material?
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 19 2020, 05:26 PM)
If I had a choice between stainless steel and brass plates, which one would give me more thock? I'm assuming brass as it is the softer material?
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it should be brass, with sa profile key caps.



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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 19 2020, 08:20 PM)
it should be brass, with sa profile key caps.
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I thought so. Thanks.

I'm still on OEM profile ABS for now. Waiting on a KAT group buy, which I'm told is also very thocky.
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Sifu, need recomendation.which one is better, phantom tkl or ck530?
I read that gateron brown switch is better than outemu.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 19 2020, 08:40 PM)
I thought so. Thanks.

I'm still on OEM profile ABS for now. Waiting on a KAT group buy, which I'm told is also very thocky.
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oh ok haha

i don't have this kat profile caps yet. maybe some days i will try it out.

QUOTE(nbotsduo @ Jun 19 2020, 10:48 PM)
Sifu, need recomendation.which one is better, phantom tkl or ck530?
I read that gateron brown switch is better than outemu.
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you should get phantom elite tkl + gateron switches.

switch hot-swapping might be what you want in case you wanna try out different switches.
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guys, do you know where i can find case for my old cm quickfire stealth? even plastic case is okay for me.
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QUOTE(taf89 @ Jun 20 2020, 06:33 AM)
guys, do you know where i can find case for my old cm quickfire stealth? even plastic case is okay for me.
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Gmart might have. I know he buys broken MKB and parts.
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QUOTE(taf89 @ Jun 20 2020, 06:33 AM)
guys, do you know where i can find case for my old cm quickfire stealth? even plastic case is okay for me.
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just curious. what happen to ur case?
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 20 2020, 11:09 AM)
just curious. what happen to ur case?
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It has rubberised finishing. After 7 years, it became sticky. The only case that i found was YMDK CNC case for filco/old cm87.. quite expensive..





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QUOTE(taf89 @ Jun 20 2020, 11:48 AM)
It has rubberised finishing. After 7 years, it became sticky. The only case that i found was YMDK CNC case for filco/old cm87.. quite expensive..
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yeah, the quickfires are puta, the rubberised coating will peel after awhile and become sticky. time for a new keyboard!
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Hello, people. New to the LYN forum. I have 2 things to ask.

1: Any idea if Tecware's going to restock on their Phantom Elite TKLs? Or should I wait for their next version?
2: Any tips for modding currently owned keyboards? I was inspired from this razer blackwidow mod post on reddit, which spark my interest to mod it. I currently have Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 ver. & Blackwidow X Chroma TE.

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(taf89 @ Jun 20 2020, 11:48 AM)
It has rubberised finishing. After 7 years, it became sticky. The only case that i found was YMDK CNC case for filco/old cm87.. quite expensive..
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ok make sense.

if u have found a replacement and decided to let go the old one.
im interested. whistling.gif

anyway, as far as im using the cm quickfire, thats the only aftermarket case i have ever found too.
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Finally lubed, clipped and band-aided my stabilizers biggrin.gif feels gooding mang

QUOTE(paiseh91 @ Jun 21 2020, 07:59 PM)
1: Any idea if Tecware's going to restock on their Phantom Elite TKLs? Or should I wait for their next version?
2: Any tips for modding currently owned keyboards? I was inspired from this razer blackwidow mod post on reddit, which spark my interest to mod it. I currently have Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 ver. & Blackwidow X Chroma TE.
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1. no idea, Tecware seems more keen in pushing the low-profile TKL

2. it will be a very unpleasant experience to de-solder the switches from the keyboard sad.gif
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Some of the good stuff has arrived. Pretty underwhelming to look at. How do you guys think I should consume this? Pop some in my mouth? Snort it?
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Anyway....I screwed up again. Killed a switch while filming it. I thought I'd learnt my lesson to be patient, but I guess waiting for films to arrive since April really triggered me...

So I got my TX films. Tried it on 3 switches. Nice. Very snug. Totally no housing wobble. Then I noticed that 2 out of 3 were not even clipped in properly. Huh. OK.

So I noted that and proceeded to film all my switches. To compensate I started closing the housings harder, just jamming them down. I was thinking I can do all least half the switches tonight. Then I accidentally jammed down on a housing that was on backwards...and effed up the leaf. Spent almost an hour trying to salvage it. I just couldn't reshape it properly. I could get it to feel right, but the circuit was not closing.

Now I'm 1 switch short...

I do have a bunch of testers. And a bunch of non RGB browns harvested from my previous dead board. Though I kinda like the idea of getting a few box navies to use as Caps/Num/Scroll lock. Yet more waiting if I go down that route and order them....sigh
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QUOTE(paiseh91 @ Jun 21 2020, 07:59 PM)
2: Any tips for modding currently owned keyboards? I was inspired from this razer blackwidow mod post on reddit, which spark my interest to mod it. I currently have Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 ver. & Blackwidow X Chroma TE.

Thanks in advance.
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I have quite a bit to weigh in on this....tomorrow, when I'm not tired and dejected.
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I have quite a bit to weigh in on this....tomorrow, when I'm not tired and dejected.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 21 2020, 11:31 PM)
Some of the good stuff has arrived. Pretty underwhelming to look at. How do you guys think I should consume this? Pop some in my mouth? Snort it?
Attached Image

Anyway....I screwed up again. Killed a switch while filming it. I thought I'd learnt my lesson to be patient, but I guess waiting for films to arrive since April really triggered me...

So I got my TX films. Tried it on 3 switches. Nice. Very snug. Totally no housing wobble. Then I noticed that 2 out of 3 were not even clipped in properly. Huh. OK.

So I noted that and proceeded to film all my switches. To compensate I started closing the housings harder, just jamming them down. I was thinking I can do all least half the switches tonight. Then I accidentally jammed down on a housing that was on backwards...and effed up the leaf. Spent almost an hour trying to salvage it. I just couldn't reshape it properly. I could get it to feel right, but the circuit was not closing.

Now I'm 1 switch short...

I do have a bunch of testers. And a bunch of non RGB browns harvested from my previous dead board. Though I kinda like the idea of getting a few box navies to use as Caps/Num/Scroll lock. Yet more waiting if I go down that route and order them....sigh
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we all had such experience on effing our switches one way or another smile.gif (another reason to have few extra spare switches)

now i always make sure the orientations of slider and switch top are correct first, then press all 4 corners to ensure they are all secured properly.

for now you can use the non-rgb brown for like space bar.

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1. no idea, Tecware seems more keen in pushing the low-profile TKL
2. it will be a very unpleasant experience to de-solder the switches from the keyboard sad.gif
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1. I guess I'll have to wait for it.
2. It's a lesson that I'm willing to learn.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 22 2020, 12:22 AM)
we all had such experience on effing our switches one way or another smile.gif (another reason to have few extra spare switches)

now i always make sure the orientations of slider and switch top are correct first, then press all 4 corners to ensure they are all secured properly.

for now you can use the non-rgb brown for like space bar.
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If I had bought the switches, I probably would have gotten extras, but these were desoldered from a prebuilt. Yeah, another lesson learned.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Kailh Box Navies for my 3 'locks'. Have an obvious and loud noise so I know if I have accidentally pressed any. Scroll lock is particularly annoying in Excel. I know you're probably thinking, oh that's a >65% problem. Lol.

I do have in my testers a single cherry blue, green and white. They'd all be clicky and I probably wouldn't "feel" anything off despite them being all different switches. But the fact that I "know" they are different will still bug me. Lol

Another alternative would be using Zealios for the locks. Since I have 4 Zealios in different weights in my tester, spring swap 3 of them to the china 67g springs, and use them for the locks. No clicks, but there will be the super obvious bump of the famously tactile Zealios to tell me I'm hitting/have hit a lock key.
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2: Any tips for modding currently owned keyboards? I was inspired from this razer blackwidow mod post on reddit, which spark my interest to mod it. I currently have Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014 ver. & Blackwidow X Chroma TE.

Thanks in advance.
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So, let's see what you can do with your board ya.

1. Desolder and lube all switches.
2. While desoldered, you can replace your stabs with some genuine Cherry plate mount stabs if you can find them. So far I only see them in stock form Zeal.
3. Lube stabs. Band aid mod on the plate if loose in plate. Clip if not clipped. Band aid mod on the PCB.
4. Spring swap if you want a heavier/lighter switch.
5. While desoldered, make a foam layer for between the plate and PCB. Very time consuming but highly recommended.
6. Foam layer underneath your PCB. To fill in the void that might be creating some resonance. Did not do much difference for my case but YMMV. Also worth trying coz it's usually easy to do.
7. Change all switches! Might cost a bomb though if you go for the currently "in" switches like Holy Pandas or NK Creams, or anything from Zeal. Lol.
8. Paint or sticker bomb your case.
9. Buy a custom kit. Harvest and move your old switches and keycaps to save cost (assuming you still like them). Oh wait, some Razer models have non standard bottom row so you might have to be wary of that.
10. Change keycaps. This can be super cheap or super expensive. Same warning as no 9 about non standard bottom row.
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What are your personal favorite switches so far? biggrin.gif

The switches I enjoyed using:
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It has rubberised finishing. After 7 years, it became sticky. The only case that i found was YMDK CNC case for filco/old cm87.. quite expensive..
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Rub it with isopropyl alcohol, and you should be able to get the rubberized coating off.
I did that for all 3 of my rapid-i. Planning a repaint in the future when I have the time.
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What are your personal favorite switches so far? biggrin.gif

The switches I enjoyed using:
Cherry MX Silent Red
Kailh Box Brown
Zealios V2 65g
Gateron Yellow
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Long term on a daily driver, I've only ever used Cherry brown and Aliaz. Love the browns. Aliaz is nothing special. Felt good on tester only.

Others on my testers that feel good to me, though I will reserve judgement until I actually get to use them on a full board for a few weeks:

Zealios
Hako True (not to be confused with Halo True)
Cherry Blue
Cherry Green
Razer Green

Yes I actually like clickies. I'm just too chicken to use them because of what my coworkers might think. Lol.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Jun 22 2020, 10:54 AM)
Rub it with isopropyl alcohol, and you should be able to get the rubberized coating off.
I did that for all 3 of my rapid-i. Planning a repaint in the future when I have the time.
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If you plan to repaint, might as well sandpaper it no? Since it's recommended to do that before priming anyway.
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So, let's see what you can do with your board ya.

5. While desoldered, make a foam layer for between the plate and PCB. Very time consuming but highly recommended.
6. Foam layer underneath your PCB. To fill in the void that might be creating some resonance. Did not do much difference for my case but YMMV. Also worth trying coz it's usually easy to do.
7. Change all switches! Might cost a bomb though if you go for the currently "in" switches like Holy Pandas or NK Creams, or anything from Zeal. Lol.

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Thanks for the tips, I'll keep that in mind. A clarification on 5,6,7:

5 & 6 - Any idea which type of foam layer that suits or I could get any foam layer that's available?
7 - What's the suitable Tactile switches for it?
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Thanks for the tips, I'll keep that in mind. A clarification on 5,6,7:

5 & 6 - Any idea which type of foam layer that suits or I could get any foam layer that's available?
7 - What's the suitable Tactile switches for it?
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You can check the previous thread, pages 107-109, for my adventures in foaming.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4538548/+2120

3.5mm EVA would be the holy grail if you could find it. I managed to compress a 4mm to 3.7mm and it worked for me.

Almost any tactile switch will do. As long as it is mechanical and has MX or box style stems. Buy a switch tester if you want to start exploring. There are some pretty huge kits available nowadays. For an extreme example, check out this 130 switch testers:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32894898620...earchweb201603_
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If you plan to repaint, might as well sandpaper it no? Since it's recommended to do that before priming anyway.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Jun 22 2020, 10:54 AM)
Rub it with isopropyl alcohol, and you should be able to get the rubberized coating off.
I did that for all 3 of my rapid-i. Planning a repaint in the future when I have the time.
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will try to do that. thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 22 2020, 01:32 PM)
You can check the previous thread, pages 107-109, for my adventures in foaming.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4538548/+2120

3.5mm EVA would be the holy grail if you could find it. I managed to compress a 4mm to 3.7mm and it worked for me.

Almost any tactile switch will do. As long as it is mechanical and has MX or box style stems. Buy a switch tester if you want to start exploring. There are some pretty huge kits available nowadays. For an extreme example, check out this 130 switch testers:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32894898620...earchweb201603_
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I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the tips.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 22 2020, 09:28 AM)
If I had bought the switches, I probably would have gotten extras, but these were desoldered from a prebuilt. Yeah, another lesson learned.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Kailh Box Navies for my 3 'locks'. Have an obvious and loud noise so I know if I have accidentally pressed any. Scroll lock is particularly annoying in Excel. I know you're probably thinking, oh that's a >65% problem. Lol.

I do have in my testers a single cherry blue, green and white. They'd all be clicky and I probably wouldn't "feel" anything off despite them being all different switches. But the fact that I "know" they are different will still bug me. Lol

Another alternative would be using Zealios for the locks. Since I have 4 Zealios in different weights in my tester, spring swap 3 of them to the china 67g springs, and use them for the locks. No clicks, but there will be the super obvious bump of the famously tactile Zealios to tell me I'm hitting/have hit a lock key.
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haha yeah all those minor details. you will get used to them in no time smile.gif

as long as they are the same switch type, it should be fine to mix switches in a build. i usually put heavier springs for esc and space bar to have better kick-back feel.
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Anyone tried tecware mechanical keyboard? how good is it? Durability?
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Anyone tried tecware mechanical keyboard? how good is it? Durability?
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which model are you talking about? in general, let's just say it can be much better, relatively to stock, after tuned.
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i still keep those rubber dome gaming boards (steelseries; got rgb some more lol)

it's quite a journey to me. found out a lot of things, yet still discover stuff every now and then hehe
yes. if coupled with lighter springs, you will feel that resistance if you applied sufficient amount of 205g0. it will feel like your switches are having 'relatively heavier' springs.
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I'm glad I didn't get the 205g0, 204g0 is sufficiently 'heavy' for me. Smooth, though. Lightly brushed on my Gat reds.
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I'm glad I didn't get the 205g0, 204g0 is sufficiently 'heavy' for me. Smooth, though. Lightly brushed on my Gat reds.
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205g0 is ok, but yes just choose which ever lube that you think better for yourself. now i use a lot of 203g2 also haha

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 12 2020, 11:18 AM)
you should check if the wire can lay flat on a flat surface.
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Didn't quite understand this when you posted it.

Saw this today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvH1gGQgZuc&t=125s
1.08 He shows how to test it on a flat surface
1.22 He shows how you can adjust it with 2 syringes
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 23 2020, 05:47 PM)
Didn't quite understand this when you posted it.

Saw this today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvH1gGQgZuc&t=125s
1.08 He shows how to test it on a flat surface
1.22 He shows how you can adjust it with 2 syringes
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oh ok lol yeah it's straight forward so i didn't elaborate more.

it's is an important step for stabilizer tuning. most of the times, bent wires or warped caps cause noises. a good and straight wire normally makes no tinkling noise when you tap very lightly anywhere on the modifier keys or space bar. they will just sink a little due to applied force, just like 1u keys.

as long as both tips are touching the flat surface, and the central part of the wire are straight, without a visible gap between it and the surface, it should be good enough.

edit: not sure why, but most of my stabs that have wire issues are plate-mount.

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 23 2020, 06:17 PM)
oh ok lol yeah it's straight forward so i didn't elaborate more.

it's is an important step for stabilizer tuning. most of the times, bent wires or warped caps cause noises. a good and straight wire normally makes no tinkling noise when you tap very lightly anywhere on the modifier keys or space bar. they will just sink a little due to applied force, just like 1u keys.

as long as both tips are touching the flat surface, and the central part of the wire are straight, without a visible gap between it and the surface, it should be good enough.

edit: not sure why, but most of my stabs that have wire issues are plate-mount.
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dang, me cheapo self only have prebuilts with plate mount stabs  ranting.gif
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it's a good thing smile.gif plate-mount stabs has a very good advantage in terms of repair, compared to pcb-mount stabs: you just need to desolder one switch to fix it
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 22 2020, 09:28 AM)
Another alternative would be using Zealios for the locks. Since I have 4 Zealios in different weights in my tester, spring swap 3 of them to the china 67g springs, and use them for the locks. No clicks, but there will be the super obvious bump of the famously tactile Zealios to tell me I'm hitting/have hit a lock key.
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So I'm down to my last 2 (minus 1 I trashed) switches to film and was about to execute this on the Zealios.

Took them out and just remembered that they have different stem colours based on weight.
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Any recommendation for dual-mode wireless/wired tkl with linear switches?

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 24 2020, 03:00 PM)
So I'm down to my last 2 (minus 1 I trashed) switches to film and was about to execute this on the Zealios.

Took them out and just remembered that they have different stem colours based on weight.
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On pause while I consider whether or not this will bug me too much. Time to check my stab wires.
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decision decision lol

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Any recommendation for dual-mode wireless/wired tkl with linear switches?
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no clue. perhaps others can shed light on this hehe
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 20 2020, 09:20 AM)
Gmart might have. I know he buys broken MKB and parts.
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Thanks for the mention, but, yeah, don't have spares for the model, as much as I would offer buying up broken MKB and parts, most people ain't quite realistic about the prices they want to sell off as scrap. blush.gif bangwall.gif tongue.gif


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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 24 2020, 01:27 PM)
it's a good thing smile.gif plate-mount stabs has a very good advantage in terms of repair, compared to pcb-mount stabs: you just need to desolder one switch to fix it
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haha just saying it bcoz u saying most of ur troubled stabs come from plate mounted. whistling.gif

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saw this on drop(massdrop). looking good.

id buy it if i have the money, but nahhh, wallet empty. hopefully can get it elsewhere later.
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 24 2020, 08:11 PM)
haha just saying it bcoz u saying most of ur troubled stabs come from plate mounted.  whistling.gif
saw this on drop(massdrop). looking good.

id buy it if i have the money, but nahhh, wallet empty. hopefully can get it elsewhere later.
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right, for some reasons lol



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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 24 2020, 08:11 PM)
haha just saying it bcoz u saying most of ur troubled stabs come from plate mounted.  whistling.gif
saw this on drop(massdrop). looking good.

id buy it if i have the money, but nahhh, wallet empty. hopefully can get it elsewhere later.
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sounds like it ticks all my boxes... but what are those chinese switches, can't make decisions confused.gif
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QUOTE(ntw @ Jun 25 2020, 12:05 AM)
sounds like it ticks all my boxes... but what are those chinese switches, can't make decisions confused.gif
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cant really commend as i myself never use them, but u can go to the discussions page and select "sort by: top conversation". someone did share the specs and links for each switches. same like all switches, can just buy and hope we like it. anyway, its a hot swap kibod, so if u dont like it, its an easy swap.

Here's the link to the page. not sure if it will redirected to the correct page or not.
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finally released by kbdfans. item links at taobao:

maja, https://kbdfans.com/collections/maja (hot-swap, solderable)
kbd8x mkii, https://kbdfans.com/collections/diy-kit/pro...al-keyboard-kit (solderable; tkl, wkl)

both are top-mount. their price points are relatively affordable, compared to other kits.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 26 2020, 09:26 AM)
finally released by kbdfans. item links at taobao:

maja, https://kbdfans.com/collections/maja (hot-swap, solderable)
kbd8x mkii, https://kbdfans.com/collections/diy-kit/pro...al-keyboard-kit (solderable; tkl, wkl)

both are top-mount. their price points are relatively affordable, compared to other kits.
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Waiting for kbd19x this Sunday....if I dare to spend USD285.  moneyflies.gif  cry.gif
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oh ok. you prefer the layout of kbd19x. it's a relatively rare layout, so i think the price is ok. ymdk has a melody96, but not with that layout.
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oh ok. you prefer the layout of kbd19x. it's a relatively rare layout, so i think the price is ok. ymdk has a melody96, but not with that layout.
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Actually I prefer full size. But since there are no custom full size in the market atm, this is a relatively affordable compromise. Austin > 500 USD RIP wallet.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 26 2020, 10:49 AM)
Actually I prefer full size. But since there are no custom full size in the market atm, this is a relatively affordable compromise. Austin > 500 USD RIP wallet.
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full-size custom kits are really rare. it's no surprise that the price is at the next level. the price for kbd19x is more justifiable.

i will stick to mid-tier kits for a while. (60, 65, 75%) they have almost everything that i want, plus better keyboard constructions are introduced slowly but surely to this range of kits.
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anyone made any orders recently with kprepublic via aliexpress? i ordered a set of stabs from them but i fear they'll take a while to arrive.. haha. i got most of my other components already, just stabs left sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ihs0y. @ Jun 26 2020, 03:10 PM)
anyone made any orders recently with kprepublic via aliexpress? i ordered a set of stabs from them but i fear they'll take a while to arrive.. haha. i got most of my other components already, just stabs left  sweat.gif
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do you have issues tracking it? by air or sea?

patience is key. in general, deliveries from cn are inconsistent since the outbreak of covid-19. it could be up to a month; maybe more.


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QUOTE(ihs0y. @ Jun 26 2020, 03:10 PM)
anyone made any orders recently with kprepublic via aliexpress? i ordered a set of stabs from them but i fear they'll take a while to arrive.. haha. i got most of my other components already, just stabs left  sweat.gif
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KPrepublic is honestly notorious with slow shipping times. What more when Beijing (where they are supposed to be based) is now under some form of lockdown.

Not sure what stabs you order from them, but, I reckon, re-purchasing them from a local vendor would be a wiser choice, pay a little more, but, you get your build built, now.
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Anyone having problem installing Logitech Ghub on their machine? The Ghub installer just stuck on hovering and landing forever.

Opened a support ticket to Logitech but never get a reply. sad.gif

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/community...ing-and-landing
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QUOTE(amyhs99 @ Jun 26 2020, 07:39 PM)
Anyone having problem installing Logitech Ghub on their machine? The Ghub installer just stuck on hovering and landing forever.

Opened a support ticket to Logitech but never get a reply.  sad.gif

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/community...ing-and-landing
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i just did a clean install of w10 2004 build 19041.331 last weekend. ghub is fine.
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i just did a clean install of w10 2004 build 19041.331 last weekend. ghub is fine.
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I also did a clean install of w10 on my Surface Laptop 3, both of i5 and i7 version facing the same issue. Not sure if there is some problem with the pre-loaded Windows.

Old dell laptop with w10 was fine, only the Surface is giving problems. sweat.gif
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At long last my mods are (mostly) done.
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All switches spring swapped to 67g, bag lubed with Krytox 105. Sliders lubed with Krytox 205. Filmed with TX films.
Foam layer between plate and PCB, foam inside bottom case underneath PCB, top case spray painted.
Stab housings lubed with Krytox 205, wires checked for straightness, lubed with superlube. Attached to plate with PTFE tape to eliminate wobble. PCB band aid modded with cloth band aid and lathered in Superlube.

It is a dream to type on. Sounds wonderful. But the keyboard gods decided to play a cruel joke....

Despite my care during desoldering and soldering, I even did a full tweezer test after desoldering...1 key is not working properly. Luckily it is about the only key(yes I have used Pause/Break before) I don't ever remember using, right alt.

Switch hitter registers one press and TWO ups.
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Keyboard tester registers right alt as left ctrl, left alt, right alt, and right ctrl simultaneously.
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Switch is fine. Desoldered and tested with multimeter. Same behaviour on both test software with switch removed and using tweezers. If anyone has any suggestions, I might consider fixing it, but for now I'm going to try not to lose my cool and just live with it.

Anyway...in case anyone is curious about the PTFE mod.
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Hohoooo, I thought I was so clever. Never seen anyone else do this. Most people stick more band aid pieces in the gap. I tried that and was not satisfied with the stab wobble. I wrapped some PTFE tape around the housing and voila! No more wobble. I invented a new mod!

Not so fast...Side effect of the way I wrapped the tape is that the stabs don't properly latch onto the plate.... So whenever I pull out a stabilized key, the stabs have a tendency to pop up a bit.
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Well you just pop them back in before putting the keycap back on.
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No big deal. Highly unlikely to pop up during use since you are pressing down on it. Still trying to stay cool. I have a nicely tuned keyboard. Sounds awesome. Let's not dwell on the imperfections ok.

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QUOTE(amyhs99 @ Jun 26 2020, 11:38 PM)
I also did a clean install of w10 on my Surface Laptop 3, both of i5 and i7 version facing the same issue. Not sure if there is some problem with the pre-loaded Windows.

Old dell laptop with w10 was fine, only the Surface is giving problems. sweat.gif
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if this is the case it should be related to the hardware, i.e. surface. it's possible that surface can cause incompatibility issues.

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come on you know it's a pretty good experience smile.gif

for the weird key registering issue, i had such incidents when:
1. i over-tightened screws onto the case (tray-mount, so it might cause pressure to the pcb); or
2. when there is too much pressure on pcb from the foams, usually from bottom case; or
3. the pcb had direct contact to metal, and caused short circuit.

as for the stabilizer mod, usually i just put a layer of ptfe tape on the side where the lock is located. the thickness of ptfe tape is 0.25mm. usually it will not move anymore after application. for stabilizer tuning, it's still about making sure the wire is straight, with both tips lubed and pointing at the same angle, and the housings and sliders are lubed.

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hi there, am new here with zero knowledge on mechanical keyboards.

Is there any shops in KL people can recommend to test out the range of keyboards switches to know what suits me best?

Can someone recommend me a few budget beginner full-size (with numpad) keyboard to start of with?
perhaps a cheap one, and another slightly pricier one that you think its worth to spend a little more on.
usage for daily work comp, not much a gamer, just casual one so no need super good one, most importantly a nice typing experience

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Hi, is there anywhere in lowyat selling Tecware keyboardd? The tecware phantom elite is sold out on the online shopping apps.
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come on you know it's a pretty good experience smile.gif

for the weird key registering issue, i had such incidents when:
1. i over-tightened screws onto the case (tray-mount, so it might cause pressure to the pcb); or
2. when there is too much pressure on pcb from the foams, usually from bottom case; or
3. the pcb had direct contact to metal, and caused short circuit.

as for the stabilizer mod, usually i just put a layer of ptfe tape on the side where the lock is located. the thickness of ptfe tape is 0.25mm. usually it will not move anymore after application. for stabilizer tuning, it's still about making sure the wire is straight, with both tips lubed and pointing at the same angle, and the housings and sliders are lubed.
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Typing experience or modding experience tongue.gif
The typing sure as hell is awesome. It's fully functional even without right alt. That's what keeping me sane and happy with my keeb.

Yeah my plate-foam-PCB sandwich is definitely very tight. I even purposely retightened a few switches by pushing it in while melting the solder joints. Not sure where or how I can release the pressure. Maybe just melt all/most joints and let the pressure push the switch to whatever level. I worry about inconsistent feel and height though.

QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 27 2020, 01:46 AM)
very nice journey. forget the imperfections, no one is perfect.

i wish u tania !
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hi there, am new here with zero knowledge on mechanical keyboards.

Is there any shops in KL people can recommend to test out the range of keyboards switches to know what suits me best?

Can someone recommend me a few budget beginner full-size (with numpad) keyboard to start of with?
perhaps a cheap one, and another slightly pricier one that you think its worth to spend a little more on.
usage for daily work comp, not much a gamer, just casual one so no need super good one, most importantly a nice typing experience
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I can wholeheartedly recommend the IKBC CD108 non BT edition for just RM279
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.bIMtl

But while browsing Lazada for the link I saw this.
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.bIN3X

Slightly higher end model. Single colour LED backlight. On pre-order for RM1 cheaper.

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QUOTE(limtekshi @ Jun 27 2020, 03:25 AM)
hi there, am new here with zero knowledge on mechanical keyboards.

Is there any shops in KL people can recommend to test out the range of keyboards switches to know what suits me best?

Can someone recommend me a few budget beginner full-size (with numpad) keyboard to start of with?
perhaps a cheap one, and another slightly pricier one that you think its worth to spend a little more on.
usage for daily work comp, not much a gamer, just casual one so no need super good one, most importantly a nice typing experience
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lyp in kl; digital mall in pj

tecware phantom elite might be ok for you. you can pm quovadis123 for this.

you can also use the group search of mymkb fb group page to look for suggestions (keyword: crowdsourcing), https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMechanicalKeyboard/

QUOTE(Calvin kuek @ Jun 27 2020, 09:04 AM)
Hi, is there anywhere in lowyat selling Tecware keyboardd? The tecware phantom elite is sold out on the online shopping apps.
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Typing experience or modding experience tongue.gif
The typing sure as hell is awesome. It's fully functional even without right alt. That's what keeping me sane and happy with my keeb.

Yeah my plate-foam-PCB sandwich is definitely very tight. I even purposely retightened a few switches by pushing it in while melting the solder joints. Not sure where or how I can release the pressure. Maybe just melt all/most joints and let the pressure push the switch to whatever level. I worry about inconsistent feel and height though.
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my best guess is that it's probably the area around the bottom row. (i.e., row 4 and bottom row)

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Thanks for the suggestions previously regarding the linear switch.
Been using Topre for a while and finally back to the Cherry Clone game.

KBDFans Pebble built with 62g FFF Switch (Lubed with Krytox 205g0)

Typing Sound
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Thanks for the suggestions previously regarding the linear switch.
Been using Topre for a while and finally back to the Cherry Clone game.

KBDFans Pebble built with 62g FFF Switch (Lubed with Krytox 205g0)

Typing Sound
https://youtu.be/M0o0SVe5Xeg
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my best guess is that it's probably the area around the bottom row. (i.e., row 4 and bottom row)
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Well, tried it and didn't work. Loosened all along the 4 edges and 2 bottom rows. Then on a hunch I removed both Ctrls and LAlt to see if RAlt will behave. No joy.

Tightened everything back up again, and now there's a slight rattle on 1 side of space bar. Then realised I can't remove the stab even with the switch removed because of the foam. Sigh...

My wallet is scared about what I'm going to do tomorrow night when a few units of kbd19x are going on sale.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 27 2020, 11:15 PM)
Well, tried it and didn't work. Loosened all along the 4 edges and 2 bottom rows. Then on a hunch I removed both Ctrls and LAlt to see if RAlt will behave. No joy.

Tightened everything back up again, and now there's a slight rattle on 1 side of space bar. Then realised I can't remove the stab even with the switch removed because of the foam. Sigh...

My wallet is scared about what I'm going to do tomorrow night when a few units of kbd19x are going on sale.
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this has something to do with how they are wired. not sure if you can find the correct matrix that got affected. imo the better bet is to desolder all switches and start over.

i do leave space for a chance to take off plate-mount stabilizers, because i usually screw them up.

to make things easier for self repairs, use true 63/38 solder wires like kester or mechanic, and a good desoldering pump. it helps me a lot especially during the switch desoldering process.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 28 2020, 12:34 AM)
this has something to do with how they are wired. not sure if you can find the correct matrix that got affected. imo the better bet is to desolder all switches and start over.

i do leave space for a chance to take off plate-mount stabilizers, because i usually screw them up.

to make things easier for self repairs, use true 63/38 solder wires like kester or mechanic, and a good desoldering pump. it helps me a lot especially during the switch desoldering process.
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I'm using a generic 63/37. Don't know why it's actually harder to suck up than the factory lead free solder. Maybe it's my soldering technique.
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I'm using a generic 63/37. Don't know why it's actually harder to suck up than the factory lead free solder. Maybe it's my soldering technique.
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if possible, use true 63/37. it's supposed to be much easier to suck it up. i use 350c, touch the joint with tinned soldering iron for a second or two, then release the primed desoldering pump. just did it just now to fix my backspace on this 60%.

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if possible, use true 63/37. it's supposed to be much easier to suck it up. i use 350c, touch the joint with tinned soldering iron for a second or two, then release the primed desoldering pump. just did it just now to fix my backspace on this 60%.
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What defines a 'true' 63/37? I'm using this:
RM6.00 | 50G 100G 63/37 60/40 99.3 Soldering Lead Wire Solder Lead Free 0.3MM 0.8MM 1.0MM Rosin Core Flux Tin Copper Sn Pb Cu | https://s.lazada.com.my/s.bsdbi

I have my cheapo desoldering iron that I reviewed in the last thread. While it does get hot enough to melt my 63/37 joints, it can't suck it cleanly like it did the lead free solder. The pump action is also slow like somehow my solder/soldering technique created an air tight seal that the factory did not. Really don't know how to explain it better.

Edit: oh I'm also not using a soldering station, so no temp settings here. Still using my Hakko Presto with Hakko chisel tip.

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What defines a 'true' 63/37? I'm using this:
RM6.00  | 50G 100G 63/37 60/40 99.3 Soldering Lead Wire Solder Lead Free 0.3MM 0.8MM 1.0MM Rosin Core Flux Tin Copper Sn Pb Cu | https://s.lazada.com.my/s.bsdbi

I have my cheapo desoldering iron that I reviewed in the last thread. While it does get hot enough to melt my 63/37 joints, it can't suck it cleanly like it did the lead free solder. The pump action is also slow like somehow my solder/soldering technique created an air tight seal that the factory did not. Really don't know how to explain it better.

Edit: oh I'm also not using a soldering station, so no temp settings here. Still using my Hakko Presto with Hakko chisel tip.
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the true 63/37 solder is supposed to be relatively easier to solder and desolder, compared to 60/40, or lead free solder.

the problem is that some brands, like the one you're using, labelled everything as 63/37, but its actual content is determined by model number, especially the variant of the same model number. (model a, b-1, etc.) to avoid such confusions, just grab something like mechanic hx-t100. you can find it at shopee.

imo the slow pump action might mean it's cloaked. just clean up the desoldering pump regularly. soldering irons with temperature control are more like convenience. i don't think it's your issue.

edit:

for now i'm using kester (flux 245; core 58; 0.6mm). it flows very nicely. i learned to feed solder at a certain length for each joint to avoid overflowing.


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the true 63/37 solder is supposed to be relatively easier to solder and desolder, compared to 60/40, or lead free solder.

the problem is that some brands, like the one you're using, labelled everything as 63/37, but its actual content is determined by model number, especially the variant of the same model number. (model a, b-1, etc.) to avoid such confusions, just grab something like mechanic hx-t100. you can find it at shopee.

imo the slow pump action might mean it's cloaked. just clean up the desoldering pump regularly. soldering irons with temperature control are more like convenience. i don't think it's your issue.

edit:

for now i'm using kester (flux 245; core 58; 0.6mm). it flows very nicely. i learned to feed solder at a certain length for each joint to avoid overflowing.
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Pump is not clogged, it works fine in the air and also if I put the mouth flat on a clear piece of PCB (while cold). But put it in a 63/37 solder joint and melt it and it becomes slow. Did not happen with the lead free solder. I wish I had another prebuilt board with lead free solder joints to confirm this but I don't.
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Pump is not clogged, it works fine in the air and also if I put the mouth flat on a clear piece of PCB (while cold). But put it in a 63/37 solder joint and melt it and it becomes slow. Did not happen with the lead free solder. I wish I had another prebuilt board with lead free solder joints to confirm this but I don't.
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maybe you should try out that mechanic 63/37 solder. it should help a lot imo. for much better maintenance in the future, it's better to spend on good quality solder wires, as suggested by veterans like GRexer and quovadis123

tbh i'm a noob in soldering and desoldering. however with the right tools, i can manage my builds now. basically they are just:

1. a soldering iron with functional temperature control, 3.2d chisel tip, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA9ehTmEfvM (with copper mod, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtgjhz5sLA8)
2. a hakko sppon 20g desoldering pump; and
3. a spool of kester solder.

i do have decent soldering stations, but most of the times i just use the above.

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how is everglide green bamboo compared to holy panda? I saw some reviews from grexer and others in fb mkb group, macam very good.

I bought some gateron browns from quadivos (already got them), but keyboard parts are still coming in and now i already think that i cant be satisfied with gateron browns.

i see drop got holy panda gb ongoing.

GG really rabbit hole

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At long last my mods are (mostly) done.
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All switches spring swapped to 67g, bag lubed with Krytox 105. Sliders lubed with Krytox 205. Filmed with TX films.
Foam layer between plate and PCB, foam inside bottom case underneath PCB, top case spray painted.
Stab housings lubed with Krytox 205, wires checked for straightness, lubed with superlube. Attached to plate with PTFE tape to eliminate wobble. PCB band aid modded with cloth band aid and lathered in Superlube.

It is a dream to type on. Sounds wonderful. But the keyboard gods decided to play a cruel joke....

Despite my care during desoldering and soldering, I even did a full tweezer test after desoldering...1 key is not working properly. Luckily it is about the only key(yes I have used Pause/Break before) I don't ever remember using, right alt.

Switch hitter registers one press and TWO ups.
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Keyboard tester registers right alt as left ctrl, left alt, right alt, and right ctrl simultaneously.
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Switch is fine. Desoldered and tested with multimeter. Same behaviour on both test software with switch removed and using tweezers. If anyone has any suggestions, I might consider fixing it, but for now I'm going to try not to lose my cool and just live with it.

Anyway...in case anyone is curious about the PTFE mod.
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Hohoooo, I thought I was so clever. Never seen anyone else do this. Most people stick more band aid pieces in the gap. I tried that and was not satisfied with the stab wobble. I wrapped some PTFE tape around the housing and voila! No more wobble. I invented a new mod!

Not so fast...Side effect of the way I wrapped the tape is that the stabs don't properly latch onto the plate.... So whenever I pull out a stabilized key, the stabs have a tendency to pop up a bit.
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Well you just pop them back in before putting the keycap back on.
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No big deal. Highly unlikely to pop up during use since you are pressing down on it. Still trying to stay cool. I have a nicely tuned keyboard. Sounds awesome. Let's not dwell on the imperfections ok.

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Is this it?
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Won't help me with what I've already built but if I do manage to get one of the few units of KBD19X going on sale tonight (and if my wallet doesn't chicken out), I'll invest in a spool of Kester and maybe even a soldering station. Not going to leave anything to chance on a more expensive board.

Anyway, have been practicing on my Cospad today. Desoldering iron still not working on my own soldered joints, but I've settled on a reasonable technique. 1 pump with normal desoldering pump to get the bulk of the solder out, followed by wick dipped in solder paste (I honestly don't know whether or not this is the same as flux, opinions on the net differ).
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Not too bad. Clear holes but lots of flux staining.
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right, that's the one from mechanic. it's really better to invest on good solder wires like kester for expensive kits.

thanks a lot for sharing your technique with flux and wick. as long as it's practical to perform effective desoldering, it's really good enough.

to me, the one in your picture is flux. solder paste should be the type that is used for bga soldering, i.e., it has solder inside.


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QUOTE(ShadowFiendZXC @ Jun 28 2020, 03:35 PM)
how is everglide green bamboo compared to holy panda? I saw some reviews from grexer and others in fb mkb group, macam very good.

I bought some gateron browns from quadivos (already got them), but keyboard parts are still coming in and now i already think that i cant be satisfied with gateron browns.

i see drop got holy panda gb ongoing.

GG really rabbit hole
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QUOTE(ShadowFiendZXC @ Jun 28 2020, 03:35 PM)
how is everglide green bamboo compared to holy panda? I saw some reviews from grexer and others in fb mkb group, macam very good.

I bought some gateron browns from quadivos (already got them), but keyboard parts are still coming in and now i already think that i cant be satisfied with gateron browns.

i see drop got holy panda gb ongoing.

GG really rabbit hole
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Maybe you should try moyu black. Took me few hours to get used to it but it's awesome. It's very hard and very tactile
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I just can't do it. Sorry. Chickened out.

Just a few days ago I saw someone selling KBD19X built with Zilents on mechmarket for only USD350.

A brand new one, kit only, is costing me USD310? Naaa. Even though in my heart I know I'm buying to use and not to flip, it just doesn't feel good to me.

Edit. P.s. sale started at 10pm and there's like 23 units left, so if you are reading this shortly after I posted, you might still be able to get it.

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Maybe you should try moyu black. Took me few hours to get used to it but it's awesome. It's very hard and very tactile
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but im using unlubed mx blues now i feel my fingers get fatigue from typing sometimes. So i want to opt for something a bit lighter. Moyu black and HP are both heavy too, maybe after lube will feel not-so-heavy cuz smoother (?)

Now i feels bad for not joining the moyu/bamboo GB.
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but im using unlubed mx blues now i feel my fingers get fatigue from typing sometimes. So i want to opt for something a bit lighter. Moyu black and HP are both heavy too, maybe after lube will feel not-so-heavy cuz smoother (?)

Now i feels bad for not joining the moyu/bamboo GB.
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https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=589344443796

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Cheap tecware tkl phantom ok ma?
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Cheap tecware tkl phantom ok ma?
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For an entry level board I heard it is quite good.

Why do you ask?
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For an entry level board I heard it is quite good.

Why do you ask?
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I just can't do it. Sorry. Chickened out.

Just a few days ago I saw someone selling KBD19X built with Zilents on mechmarket for only USD350.

A brand new one, kit only, is costing me USD310? Naaa. Even though in my heart I know I'm buying to use and not to flip, it just doesn't feel good to me.

Edit. P.s. sale started at 10pm and there's like 23 units left, so if you are reading this shortly after I posted, you might still be able to get it.
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Cheap tecware tkl phantom ok ma?
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uh? it's always fine to skip. there will always be the next best thing in the future smile.gif
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QUOTE(ShadowFiendZXC @ Jun 28 2020, 11:28 PM)
but im using unlubed mx blues now i feel my fingers get fatigue from typing sometimes. So i want to opt for something a bit lighter. Moyu black and HP are both heavy too, maybe after lube will feel not-so-heavy cuz smoother (?)

Now i feels bad for not joining the moyu/bamboo GB.
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uh? it's always fine to skip. there will always be the next best thing in the future smile.gif
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1800 and mini USB, it's still a compromise for me. If it was a full size, USB C, alu in grey or blue, I wouldn't hesitate even at that price.

I balked at having to pay so much for a compromise. But it's not often there is a bigger custom board available so unless my holy grail board appears, I will always wonder if I'm going to regret not buying.


And an update on my modded IKBC F108:

First day working after finished rebuilding it, using it on my work MacBook...and keyboard tester is all OK...huh? Unplugged it and plugged it back in to my kid's Windows PC, still failing both keyboard tester and switch hitter. Since I only tested it on a Mac before, it's possible that it was actually DOA and not anything that I did.

I feel relieved and pissed off at the same time. rolleyes.gif
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yea, every time i skipped or bought something, there will always be something else "better" after.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 29 2020, 11:34 AM)
1800 and mini USB, it's still a compromise for me. If it was a full size, USB C, alu in grey or blue, I wouldn't hesitate even at that price.

I balked at having to pay so much for a compromise. But it's not often there is a bigger custom board available so unless my holy grail board appears, I will always wonder if I'm going to regret not buying.
And an update on my modded IKBC F108:

First day working after finished rebuilding it, using it on my work MacBook...and keyboard tester is all OK...huh? Unplugged it and plugged it back in to my kid's Windows PC, still failing both keyboard tester and switch hitter. Since I only tested it on a Mac before, it's possible that it was actually DOA and not anything that I did.

I feel relieved and pissed off at the same time.  rolleyes.gif
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uh? flawless on mac means it's a driver issue on windows os.

well, at least everything is fine for the board haha


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Hi guys, i just bumped myself into this subforum when I was looking around trying to figure out what is happening to my Redragon K551 (7 years of age I think?)
It's been giving me some weird issues as it would double-tap (for most keys), or even don't register at all (for certain keys).
Then I learnt that the term for double-tap is actually called "Chatter" (WOW!!!)
And then I learned how to clean the keyboard with the "blown" method and dismantle the whole keyboard and did a deep clean (except de-soldering and dismantling each switch)
Then I found there's this "Keyboard Chattering Fix" software which would help with chattering, well it actually helped a little, too.
All the above helped, but the chatter eventually came back and would occasionally get worst sometimes... like the KB is having a mind of its own LOL!

Honestly, would there be any way to fix the issue? or would it be because of the board and chip are having issue already? I've even tried using it on different laptop/desktop and even Mac to make sure that it's not a driver's issue...


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It's really hard to find Tecware Phantom Elite TKL now... like "Chips More"
Maybe I should start exploring other options? I was allowing myself to spend up to RM200, but due to the limited choices and stocks, I kept raising up to RM500 (or less, preferably)... which then brought me another issue... too many choices! *Faint*

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QUOTE(Newgen @ Jun 29 2020, 03:29 PM)
Hi guys, i just bumped myself into this subforum when I was looking around trying to figure out what is happening to my Redragon K551 (7 years of age I think?)
It's been giving me some weird issues as it would double-tap (for most keys), or even don't register at all (for certain keys).
Then I learnt that the term for double-tap is actually called "Chatter" (WOW!!!)
And then I learned how to clean the keyboard with the "blown" method and dismantle the whole keyboard and did a deep clean (except de-soldering and dismantling each switch)
Then I found there's this "Keyboard Chattering Fix" software which would help with chattering, well it actually helped a little, too.
All the above helped, but the chatter eventually came back and would occasionally get worst sometimes... like the KB is having a mind of its own LOL!

Honestly, would there be any way to fix the issue? or would it be because of the board and chip are having issue already? I've even tried using it on different laptop/desktop and even Mac to make sure that it's not a driver's issue...
***ON ANOTHER NOTE****
It's really hard to find Tecware Phantom Elite TKL now... like "Chips More"
Maybe I should start exploring other options? I was allowing myself to spend up to RM200, but due to the limited choices and stocks, I kept raising up to RM500 (or less, preferably)... which then brought me another issue... too many choices! *Faint*
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it's very likely mcu related, based on what you described. maybe it's time to just harvest the switches from this board, tune and reuse them.

you can check with quovadis123 if you're looking for a tecware phantom elite, full-size.

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it's very likely mcu related, based on what you described. maybe it's time to just harvest the switches from this board, tune and reuse them.

you can check with quovadis123 if you're looking for a tecware phantom elite, full-size.
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Hey thanks for the reply.
Just wondering if I can just replace the MCU? I actually have 2 of the same model keyboard facing the same issue. One is worst, one is still not that "chatty"
By the way, "Tune and reuse" means got to dismantle all the individual switches and check 1 by 1?

I'm looking for TKL wanna try TKL

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QUOTE(Newgen @ Jun 29 2020, 07:00 PM)
Hey thanks for the reply.
Just wondering if I can just replace the MCU? I actually have 2 of the same model keyboard facing the same issue. One is worst, one is still not that "chatty"
By the way, "Tune and reuse" means got to dismantle all the individual switches and check 1 by 1?

I'm looking for TKL wanna try TKL
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you can do that with the right tools. however, i'm not sure if this is worth the efforts, since both are also having similar issue.

yes it means desoldering them from the current board.

as for elite tkl, not sure. you can join mymkb fb page, and search the group with crowdsourcing to bring up the latest lists of commercial boards at different price range. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMechanicalKeyboard/
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jun 27 2020, 09:56 AM)
I can wholeheartedly recommend the IKBC CD108 non BT edition for just RM279
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.bIMtl

But while browsing Lazada for the link I saw this.
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.bIN3X

Slightly higher end model. Single colour LED backlight. On pre-order for RM1 cheaper.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 27 2020, 10:12 AM)
lyp in kl; digital mall in pj

tecware phantom elite might be ok for you. you can pm quovadis123 for this.

you can also use the group search of mymkb fb group page to look for suggestions (keyword: crowdsourcing), https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMechanicalKeyboard/
you can pm quovadis123 for it
both hehe

my best guess is that it's probably the area around the bottom row. (i.e., row 4 and bottom row)
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thank you. i went to lowyat plaza to see what they have to offer and also try out keyboards. They have the popular brands like Razer and Logitech which are outside my budget.
I saw there's also lower budget ones like Armageddon and Imperion. While I don't quite like the flashy design and font on the keys, i quite like sound and light clicky switches of them. Are these brands not considered good among the mech community?
Didnt manage to see any tecware or ikbc to try out in person.
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Anyone here bought wireless keyboard from oversea or amazon before?

Can help to share your experience?

Plan to get a Keychron K6 but worry that it will get held in custom or need sirim and all those hassle.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(Crusader @ Jun 30 2020, 10:35 AM)
Anyone here bought wireless keyboard from oversea or amazon before?

Can help to share your experience?

Plan to get a Keychron K6 but worry that it will get held in custom or need sirim and all those hassle.

Thanks.
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I've not bought any keyboard from overseas before, but I've bought other things (like supplements and phone parts), so far it seems like custom would not bother if the value is less than RM500. SIRIM and MCMC wise, they would probably pay more attention to Telco related (GSM/3G/4G/5G) components. I heard WiFi/Bluetooh would depend on "luck".
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QUOTE(limtekshi @ Jun 29 2020, 11:41 PM)
thank you. i went to lowyat plaza to see what they have to offer and also try out keyboards. They have the popular brands like Razer and Logitech which are outside my budget.
I saw there's also lower budget ones like Armageddon and Imperion. While I don't quite like the flashy design and font on the keys, i quite like sound and light clicky switches of them. Are these brands not considered good among the mech community?
Didnt manage to see any tecware or ikbc to try out in person.
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they are not good at stock.

first-hand experience is the key to appreciate mkb modding. without it, you will never be able differentiate good builds from bad ones.

this is the main reason i suggested tecware phantom elite. it's affordable, it supports 3-pin switch hot-swapping (so, beginner-friendly), and it's bad at stock. however, with some efforts, it can be turned into a better board than its original state to certain extents. (within their physical limits) you will experience its changes and differences yourself, from start to end.

if you're interested in soldered commercial boards only, instead of going for razer or logitech, you should try ikbc, ducky, leopold, varmilo, or filco.




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QUOTE(Crusader @ Jun 30 2020, 10:35 AM)
Anyone here bought wireless keyboard from oversea or amazon before?

Can help to share your experience?

Plan to get a Keychron K6 but worry that it will get held in custom or need sirim and all those hassle.

Thanks.
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If you buy those GK61, GK64 or Anne Pro from aliexpress or lazada, quite okay one
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Hi all, a newbie here hoping to get some advice from the mechkeyboard community here. Looking to replace my stock desktop keyboard i got long ago with a new one and interested in looking for a mechanical one for a better typing experience. Usage mainly for long hours daily use on for work; not much of a gamer, but enjoy once in a while casual gaming.
With my limited research for the past week and also testing out some keyboards in some retail stores, I really like Razers keyboard such as the Huntsman Elite (for its typing, dedicated media control/knob, and comfy palmerst); however its way above my budget, so have looked at alternatives.

My preferences:
- Full-size keyboard with Numpad
- Dedicated media/extra keys, a volume knob would be a bonus
- Future switch swapping if possible (although not a must, as I'm not sure if I would get into the whole upgrading in future or not, but allowing it would be good)
- Single colour LED lighting (not a fan of multicoloured lighting)
- Budget rm300

Initially thought the Logitech G610 fit my choice and found it selling for rm300, but then i did find out about Redragon keyboards and the K586-Pro looked like a good alternative with bonuses (extra macro keys, includes palm rest, and switches can be changed in future(?), and selling for under rm300 ). Corsair keyboards also looked interesting but look like its all above my budget and Redragon looks like the cheaper version of them.

Which do you guys think would be better? Is Redragon a reliable brand as I don't see it mentioned as much here? Is there other alternatives you would recommend?

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Initially thought the Logitech G610 fit my choice and found it selling for rm300, but then i did find out about Redragon keyboards and the K586-Pro looked like a good alternative with bonuses (extra macro keys, includes palm rest, and switches can be changed in future(?), and selling for under rm300 ). Corsair keyboards also looked interesting but look like its all above my budget and Redragon looks like the cheaper version of them.

Which do you guys think would be better? Is Redragon a reliable brand as I don't see it mentioned as much here? Is there other alternatives you would recommend?
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Redragon typically uses Outemu switches, and their "hot swap" are typically for Outemu switches only which have a smaller pin size and isn't compatible with switches of other brands. Also, Outemu switches seem to tend to develop chattering earlier than other brands, but other than that, I would say Redragon might be "better" in that you can still learn to tune your board since it's hot-swap, and it typically uses a standard ANSI layout if you want to venture down the keycap path too.

In terms of fitting your criteria, the Redragon:
thumbsup.gif Full-size keyboard with Numpad
thumbsup.gif Dedicated media/extra keys, a volume knob would be a bonus
thumbsup.gif Future switch swapping if possible (although not a must, as I'm not sure if I would get into the whole upgrading in future or not, but allowing it would be good)
excl.gif Single colour LED lighting (not a fan of multicoloured lighting) [Basically because typically RGB have issues with displaying proper white lighting]
thumbsup.gif Budget rm300

If you're looking for a reliable keyboard to use without doing anything else (coz there's really nothing much you can do other than tune the stabilisers) to it, the G610 seems like a decent choice that fits your criteria. The only issue with it is a VERY non-standard layout and getting replacement keycaps for it might be a little difficult, especially that flipping 5.75U spacebar that nobody else uses.

In terms of fitting your criteria, the Logitech:
thumbsup.gif Full-size keyboard with Numpad
thumbsup.gif Dedicated media/extra keys, a volume knob would be a bonus
excl.gif Future switch swapping if possible (although not a must, as I'm not sure if I would get into the whole upgrading in future or not, but allowing it would be good)
thumbsup.gif Single colour LED lighting (not a fan of multicoloured lighting)
thumbsup.gif Budget rm300

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QUOTE(Newgen @ Jun 30 2020, 12:57 PM)
I've not bought any keyboard from overseas before, but I've bought other things (like supplements and phone parts), so far it seems like custom would not bother if the value is less than RM500. SIRIM and MCMC wise, they would probably pay more attention to Telco related (GSM/3G/4G/5G) components. I heard WiFi/Bluetooh would depend on "luck".
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 30 2020, 03:10 PM)
If you buy those GK61, GK64 or Anne Pro from aliexpress or lazada, quite okay one
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I bought from Amazon. sad.gif
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I have a question on GK61. Planning to upgrade to brass plate and maybe change to a Tofu case. Does the PCB support screw in stabs? if not then is there any brass plate that supports plate mount stabs?
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QUOTE(doomvein @ Jun 18 2020, 10:48 AM)
hi banana here..

budget rm500-rm600.. ( prefer physical shop )

gaming(dota) and typing.(blogger)

( brown chery switch ? any better switch for me?)

aim for ducky one 2 tkl rgb for now..

any mech better than this at my budget?
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Ever tried Zealios switches? But lubed Gateron linear switches are lifechanging. Really opened up my perspective on how minute the cherry brown tactile feel actually is.
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jun 30 2020, 04:26 PM)
Redragon typically uses Outemu switches, and their "hot swap" are typically for Outemu switches only which have a smaller pin size and isn't compatible with switches of other brands. Also, Outemu switches seem to tend to develop chattering earlier than other brands, but other than that, I would say Redragon might be "better" in that you can still learn to tune your board since it's hot-swap, and it typically uses a standard ANSI layout if you want to venture down the keycap path too.

In terms of fitting your criteria, the Redragon:
thumbsup.gif  Full-size keyboard with Numpad
thumbsup.gif  Dedicated media/extra keys, a volume knob would be a bonus
thumbsup.gif  Future switch swapping if possible (although not a must, as I'm not sure if I would get into the whole upgrading in future or not, but allowing it would be good)
excl.gif Single colour LED lighting (not a fan of multicoloured lighting) [Basically because typically RGB have issues with displaying proper white lighting]
thumbsup.gif  Budget rm300

If you're looking for a reliable keyboard to use without doing anything else (coz there's really nothing much you can do other than tune the stabilisers) to it, the G610 seems like a decent choice that fits your criteria. The only issue with it is a VERY non-standard layout and getting replacement keycaps for it might be a little difficult, especially that flipping 5.75U spacebar that nobody else uses.

In terms of fitting your criteria, the Logitech:
thumbsup.gif  Full-size keyboard with Numpad
thumbsup.gif  Dedicated media/extra keys, a volume knob would be a bonus
excl.gif  Future switch swapping if possible (although not a must, as I'm not sure if I would get into the whole upgrading in future or not, but allowing it would be good)
thumbsup.gif  Single colour LED lighting (not a fan of multicoloured lighting)
thumbsup.gif  Budget rm300
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thanks! still can't quite decide, but leaning towards the redragon for now. but also still looking at others; such as Tecware Spectre Pro, Ajazz Ak60 or even the Keychron K4 (even though no media/volumne/macro, the sleek look is enticing!)

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QUOTE(inb4 @ Jul 1 2020, 11:07 AM)
I have a question on GK61. Planning to upgrade to brass plate and maybe change to a Tofu case. Does the PCB support screw in stabs? if not then is there any brass plate that supports plate mount stabs?
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GK61 has no PCB mount stab holes on both left and right shift. Only backspace, enter, and spacebar has holes for PCB mount stabs.
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GK61 has no PCB mount stab holes on both left and right shift. Only backspace, enter, and spacebar has holes for PCB mount stabs.
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Thanks for the info! I press my left shift on the centre of it when I type and I don't use the right shift. 2.25u without stabs is fine... right? haha
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QUOTE(inb4 @ Jul 1 2020, 01:48 PM)
Thanks for the info! I press my left shift on the centre of it when I type and I don't use the right shift. 2.25u without stabs is fine... right? haha
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2.25U should be still OK, but, can't say the same for that 2.75U right shift
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i just got my hands on the tecware phantom TKL 2020 blue switches.
The best feeling after i tried most of them. not sure whats the difference between this and the old version
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QUOTE(Crusader @ Jun 30 2020, 10:35 AM)
Anyone here bought wireless keyboard from oversea or amazon before?

Can help to share your experience?

Plan to get a Keychron K6 but worry that it will get held in custom or need sirim and all those hassle.

Thanks.
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I ordered and received 1 unit keychron over the MCO period, no issues whatsoever. go ahead and order, and if you need a referral code, please let me know! smile.gif
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QUOTE(ragecat @ Jul 8 2020, 12:12 AM)
I ordered and received 1 unit keychron over the MCO period, no issues whatsoever. go ahead and order, and if you need a referral code, please let me know! smile.gif
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Thanks, mate. I'm waiting for my K6 from amazon now. Will have a look whether I like the size or not. Will get reference code from you if I'm going to get another.
Because I accidentally bought the plastic version from Amazon!!! bangwall.gif Wanted the Alu version.

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Any Logitech G613 owner here? I've notice my keyboard has been register some letters twice (particularly letter S and H) when typing. Is this a common issue with Logitech mechanical keyboards?
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Jul 8 2020, 08:20 AM)
Any Logitech G613 owner here? I've notice my keyboard has been register some letters twice (particularly letter S and H) when typing. Is this a common issue with Logitech mechanical keyboards?
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It's a "common" issue called chattering that happens when the contacts in the switches wear out (prematurely). I would recommend getting it sent in for RMA/warranty if it's still under warranty. If it's out of warranty, it could be repaired by replacing the switch.
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Tried my hand at balancing stab wires from the stock plate mount stabs on the tecware phantom elite. Although it helped a bit but the longer keys (spacebar in particular) still sinks a little and makes a tapping sound when softly tapping on either side. I assume it's because I'm not balancing the wires properly but I wanted to know if it's worth it to swap out the stock stabs for something else. Seems pretty hard to find any plate mount stabs in the first place with the cherry ones being sold out almost everywhere leaving only OEM brands. If only the phantom elite pcb accepts screw-in or pcb mount stabs...
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you should find some time to tune it so that it's much better than stock

QUOTE(Lybrary @ Jul 8 2020, 03:16 PM)
Tried my hand at balancing stab wires from the stock plate mount stabs on the tecware phantom elite. Although it helped a bit but the longer keys (spacebar in particular) still sinks a little and makes a tapping sound when softly tapping on either side. I assume it's because I'm not balancing the wires properly but I wanted to know if it's worth it to swap out the stock stabs for something else. Seems pretty hard to find any plate mount stabs in the first place with the cherry ones being sold out almost everywhere leaving only OEM brands. If only the phantom elite pcb accepts screw-in or pcb mount stabs...
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you can try putting a small piece of fabric tape on the top part of both wire tips, then lube them with plastic-safe grease, like permatex, or superlube. i did the same to my space bar. there is no more tinkling sound even if i tapped very lightly on either side.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 8 2020, 04:34 PM)
you should find some time to tune it so that it's much better than stock
you can try putting a small piece of fabric tape on the top part of both wire tips, then lube them with plastic-safe grease, like permatex, or superlube. i did the same to my space bar. there is no more tinkling sound even if i tapped very lightly on either side.
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how do you tune a tecware phantom?
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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 8 2020, 04:34 PM)
you can try putting a small piece of fabric tape on the top part of both wire tips, then lube them with plastic-safe grease, like permatex, or superlube. i did the same to my space bar. there is no more tinkling sound even if i tapped very lightly on either side.
Oh I never thought of doing this, I'll give this a try when I have time thumbsup.gif
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you can try putting a small piece of fabric tape on the top part of both wire tips,
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First time hearing this. Is it for when the key pops back up and potentially hitting the underside of the plate?
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you can start with switch and stabilizer tuning. there are plenty of guides at youtube.

QUOTE(Lybrary @ Jul 8 2020, 05:01 PM)
Oh I never thought of doing this, I'll give this a try when I have time  thumbsup.gif
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yes, try this one. so far i have done this for my gk64 and z70ultra. it's really effective.

later i will try to do the rama's shrink tube mod also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3da8CMV2_M

QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 8 2020, 05:04 PM)
First time hearing this. Is it for when the key pops back up and potentially hitting the underside of the plate?
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it's a mod by our friend at mymkb. no this is to minimize the tinkling sound when wire tips hit the upper part of the stem hole when you tap on the edges of space bar. this sound is not obvious for shorter modifier keys, but they are there too, if the wire tips are not tuned properly.

another similar mod is is from rama (video above).
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you can try putting a small piece of fabric tape on the top part of both wire tips
By the way, do you just cut a small square of tape that sits at the tip of the wire or a little longer so that it folds down onto the sides?

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you should find some time to tune it so that it's much better than stock
you can try putting a small piece of fabric tape on the top part of both wire tips, then lube them with plastic-safe grease, like permatex, or superlube. i did the same to my space bar. there is no more tinkling sound even if i tapped very lightly on either side.
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What is there to tune?
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QUOTE(Lybrary @ Jul 8 2020, 05:34 PM)
By the way, do you just cut a small square of tape that sits at the tip of the wire or a little longer so that it folds down onto the sides?
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it's more like a rectangular shape that sticks on the top part of wire tips.

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 8 2020, 05:51 PM)
What is there to tune?
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sound and feel mainly. well, if you liked stock sound and feel, then do nothing
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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 8 2020, 05:18 PM)
you can start with switch and stabilizer tuning. there are plenty of guides at youtube.
yes, try this one. so far i have done this for my gk64 and z70ultra. it's really effective.

later i will try to do the rama's shrink tube mod also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3da8CMV2_M
it's a mod by our friend at mymkb. no this is to minimize the tinkling sound when wire tips hit the upper part of the stem hole when you tap on the edges of space bar. this sound is not obvious for shorter modifier keys, but they are there too, if the wire tips are not tuned properly.

another similar mod is is from rama (video above).
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Interesting...thanks!

There's a link on the YouTube vid btw.
https://rama.works/guides#/silencing-stabilisers/

The mymkb mod deals with the tips only, but the rama mod is after the tips but before the bend, correct?

Pretty soon there won't be a single surface that doesn't have a mod. Lol.

P.s. my switch stickers finally arrived. And my V2 C3 stabs GB. smile.gif
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Just received my Keychron K6 (1 hour ago...) No problem from the custom. Lucky me.

Setting up and charging now.
It is a very sturdy built and I think I may drop the idea of getting the aluminium version.

Damn... this thing is so tiny. First time move to non-standard size keyboard.


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Anyone know of any local seller of Kester 44 solder?
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 8 2020, 06:59 PM)
Interesting...thanks!

There's a link on the YouTube vid btw.
https://rama.works/guides#/silencing-stabilisers/

The mymkb mod deals with the tips only, but the rama mod is after the tips but before the bend, correct?

Pretty soon there won't be a single surface that doesn't have a mod. Lol.

P.s. my switch stickers finally arrived. And my V2 C3 stabs GB. smile.gif
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.. wow it took this long? well for tx switch films and springs, you can just pm quovadis123. he has stock.

to me both shrink tube mod and mymkb mod have similar effects so there is no need to stack them hehe

QUOTE(Crusader @ Jul 8 2020, 07:25 PM)
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Just received my Keychron K6 (1 hour ago...) No problem from the custom. Lucky me.

Setting up and charging now.
It is a very sturdy built and I think I may drop the idea of getting the aluminium version.

Damn... this thing is so tiny. First time move to non-standard size keyboard.
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nice smile.gif

QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 8 2020, 07:52 PM)
Anyone know of any local seller of Kester 44 solder?
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no idea about this. i just grab them from taobao

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no idea about this. i just grab them from taobao
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Haha. The one place I didn't check. I hate browsing Taobao from my phone. Next to impossible without the app.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 8 2020, 06:35 PM)
it's more like a rectangular shape that sticks on the top part of wire tips.
sound and feel mainly. well, if you liked stock sound and feel, then do nothing
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I see. so far i am not nitpicking. the stock sound and feelings are on point.
i just watch youtube; too much work for little gains. hahaha....but good headsup bro.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 8 2020, 09:12 PM)
I see. so far i am not nitpicking. the stock sound and feelings are on point.
i just watch youtube; too much work for little gains. hahaha....but good headsup bro.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 8 2020, 05:18 PM)
you can start with switch and stabilizer tuning. there are plenty of guides at youtube.
yes, try this one. so far i have done this for my gk64 and z70ultra. it's really effective.

later i will try to do the rama's shrink tube mod also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3da8CMV2_M
it's a mod by our friend at mymkb. no this is to minimize the tinkling sound when wire tips hit the upper part of the stem hole when you tap on the edges of space bar. this sound is not obvious for shorter modifier keys, but they are there too, if the wire tips are not tuned properly.

another similar mod is is from rama (video above).
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the rama mod looks like it will affect the travel distance of the stabilizer... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ntw @ Jul 8 2020, 10:57 PM)
the rama mod looks like it will affect the travel distance of the stabilizer...  hmm.gif
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it might, but it shouldn't be affecting travel distance significantly

for plate-mount stabilizers, i also add o-rings between the slider and housing, held by wire tips. now that one has some effects on travel distance.

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Just saw this foam. Genius! 3.5mm according to the Taobao page. The 3 types of modules can cover everything except for stabilized keys.

Edit: Also says this on their Taobao page (from Google Translate). "This product has applied for a patent, please do not counterfeit, counterfeiting will be investigated!" Lol

https://kbdfans.com/collections/new-arrival...ans-module-foam
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....id=622023994197


QUOTE(Lybrary @ Jul 8 2020, 03:16 PM)
Tried my hand at balancing stab wires from the stock plate mount stabs on the tecware phantom elite. Although it helped a bit but the longer keys (spacebar in particular) still sinks a little and makes a tapping sound when softly tapping on either side. I assume it's because I'm not balancing the wires properly but I wanted to know if it's worth it to swap out the stock stabs for something else. Seems pretty hard to find any plate mount stabs in the first place with the cherry ones being sold out almost everywhere leaving only OEM brands. If only the phantom elite pcb accepts screw-in or pcb mount stabs...
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Yeah, I was searching for original cherry plate mount stabs as well before I assembled my board. Only place in stock I saw was Zeal.
https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/pro...ted-stabilizers
About RM120 for shipping! vmad.gif

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 9 2020, 05:22 PM)
Yeah, I was searching for original cherry plate mount stabs as well before I assembled my board. Only place in stock I saw was Zeal.
https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/pro...ted-stabilizers
About RM120 for shipping! vmad.gif
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Yeah, definitely am not ready to pay as much for shipping compared to the product which might not even end up making a huge difference. Rather experiment with quirky mods and save the money for the eventual next keyboard/build
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 9 2020, 05:22 PM)
Just saw this foam. Genius! 3.5mm according to the Taobao page. The 3 types of modules can cover everything except for stabilized keys.

Edit: Also says this on their Taobao page (from Google Translate). "This product has applied for a patent, please do not counterfeit, counterfeiting will be investigated!" Lol

https://kbdfans.com/collections/new-arrival...ans-module-foam
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....id=622023994197
Yeah, I was searching for original cherry plate mount stabs as well before I assembled my board. Only place in stock I saw was Zeal.
https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/pro...ted-stabilizers
About RM120 for shipping! vmad.gif
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haha for me i will just use eva foam tape 3mm + 0.5mm stacked together

.. wow that shipping fee is a lot.

QUOTE(Lybrary @ Jul 9 2020, 07:16 PM)
Yeah, definitely am not ready to pay as much for shipping compared to the product which might not even end up making a huge difference. Rather experiment with quirky mods and save the money for the eventual next keyboard/build
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yes, it's better to experiment and use mods. i have a lot of stabilizers. the last time i checked, bent wires are common. it's the mods that make them acceptable tbh

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looks like taobao had some sort of sales going on... whacked a dunno what... royal kludge RK987 wireless bluetooth usb-C with their own browns (not cherry) for <RM100 cuz it looks nice lol.

Cant find reviews about it, so wonder if anyone knows how it is? especially the fake browns (i think it's kaihl) so i can adjust my expectations when it arrives laugh.gif
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Anyone know where I can get the IKBC F87 Black version? Seems like only white version is available. Are there any alternatives to this keyboard at around similar price?
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Anyone know where I can get the IKBC F87 Black version? Seems like only white version is available. Are there any alternatives to this keyboard at around similar price?
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Got la
https://shopee.com.my/ikbc-F87-mechanical-k...5466.4332187043

You can also try looking for Durgod Nebula K320.

If you don't need RGB but just backlit, the Durgod Corona K320 would be slightly cheaper.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 10 2020, 09:21 AM)
Got la
https://shopee.com.my/ikbc-F87-mechanical-k...5466.4332187043

You can also try looking for Durgod Nebula K320.

If you don't need RGB but just backlit, the Durgod Corona K320 would be slightly cheaper.
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the price for that f87 is high, maybe due to the reason that this model is end-of-life for a long time. maybe the better place to look for it is taobao.

personally i think the relatively better build is their c87, a damn old model. it's really like a tank, even with stock plastic case.
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first time just finished lubing 100 switches. I have to say, i wasnt enjoying it, hella tedious job omg.
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is there any keyboard (can bought easily here) where the arrow keys and numpad are on the left side?
example:
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i posted here time to time with another account. Now change account because privacy invaded matter laugh.gif

anyway i just built this keyboard
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gateron brown with springs changed to 55g, switch film added, springs lubed with 104, stabs band aid+clip, 4mm eva foam between pcb/backplate and everything else lubed with 205.

A lot of building processes which I thought was easy, turned up to be not. tongue.gif I made tons of mistakes and took very long time messing around with the keyboard biggrin.gif . Every thing is quite fun for me except the lubing part. ranting.gif

The major mistakes i did were
- soldering quite a number of switches without the switches fully touching the PCB. Luckily i realized something was wrong before i proceeded to solder more switches. I learnt that it is very difficult to push the switches 'into' the pcb. My fingers are hurt now because of it. biggrin.gif

-cutting the foam to put between plate and pcb. I ended up giving up and put nothing in between the plate and pcb. Have to be very precise in cutting the foam to leave enough space for each switch and stabilizers, but I failed miserably. All the shapes i drew by aligning the plate to the foam were all incorrect due to the stretchy nature of the eva foam and also not drawing exactly at the edges using pen. I wasted most of my time here. biggrin.gif tongue.gif Here is the showcase of my masterpiece.

I feel that Gat browns lubed are indeed overly light for me as oppose to be using MX Blues which I think is heavy. Might have to change all the switches to heavier ones in the future bangwall.gif shakehead.gif

I had bought some 3mm LED bulbs, but havent soldered them yet. The led holes are at the lower part of the switches. I tested the leds through the holes with a lithium bat, but the effect is like very disappointing. All the letters/symbols are floating towards upper part of a key cap. I think last time someone asked the same question, but now how ah? I didn't know because I see the mx switches in razer mkb are all upside down one. XD

Also, the taihao keycaps im using dont have R0 1U Ctrl, FN, Alt and numpad 0 & R4 Delete, End and Page Down. doh.gif I wasn't thinking so thoroughly before this. I think most of the keycaps set doesnt have these, am i right? I read some where people saying have to buy the ortholinear keycap set of a GB/preorder lol. Can any1 give me advice regarding this?
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QUOTE(PalakOtakHang @ Jul 13 2020, 01:06 AM)
i posted here time to time with another account. Now change account because privacy invaded matter  laugh.gif

anyway i just built this keyboard
user posted image'
gateron brown with springs changed to 55g, switch film added, springs lubed with 104, stabs band aid+clip, 4mm eva foam between pcb/backplate and everything else lubed with 205.

A lot of building processes which I thought was easy, turned up to be not.  tongue.gif I made tons of mistakes and took very long time messing around with the keyboard  biggrin.gif . Every thing is quite fun for me except the lubing part.  ranting.gif

The major mistakes i did were
- soldering quite a number of switches without the switches fully touching the PCB. Luckily i realized something was wrong before i proceeded to solder more switches. I learnt that it is very difficult to push the switches 'into' the pcb. My fingers are hurt now because of it.  biggrin.gif

-cutting the foam to put between plate and pcb. I ended up giving up and put nothing in between the plate and pcb. Have to be very precise in cutting the foam to leave enough space for each switch and stabilizers, but I failed miserably. All the shapes i drew by aligning the plate to the foam were all incorrect due to the stretchy nature of the eva foam and also not drawing exactly at the edges using pen. I wasted most of my time here.  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif Here is the showcase of my masterpiece. 

I feel that Gat browns lubed are indeed overly light for me as oppose to be using MX Blues which I think is heavy. Might have to change all the switches to heavier ones in the future bangwall.gif  shakehead.gif

I had bought some 3mm LED bulbs, but havent soldered them yet. The led holes are at the lower part of the switches. I tested the leds through the holes with a lithium bat, but the effect is like very disappointing. All the letters/symbols are floating towards upper part of a key cap. I think last time someone asked the same question, but now how ah? I didn't know because I see the mx switches in razer mkb are all upside down one. XD

Also, the taihao keycaps im using dont have R0 1U Ctrl, FN, Alt and numpad 0 & R4 Delete, End and Page Down. doh.gif I wasn't thinking so thoroughly before this. I think most of the keycaps set doesnt have these, am i right? I read some where people saying have to buy the ortholinear keycap set of a GB/preorder lol. Can any1 give me advice regarding this?
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Nice! YMDK 96?

A pity about the foam though. Although it doesn't look too bad IMO, what did not fit?


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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 13 2020, 11:13 AM)
Nice! YMDK 96?

A pity about the foam though. Although it doesn't look too bad IMO, what did not fit?
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Yes, Melody96 to be exact.

Too much misalignment. Given that I had to close the gap between the switches and the pcb, I was worried that some uneven cut/excess parts of the foam will hinder the placement of the switches because squeeze squeeze squeeze. Actually can just attach trimmed foams (eg 2mm wide, 10cm strip horizontally) onto the back side of the plate, do the same for the vertical lines and leave out the spots for stabs. However, I did not have thin double sided tape with me and I was very exhausted and mad cutting the failed foam. So out of a whim, Idc and decided to skip the plate/pcb foam. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
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Alienware AW768 (Cherry MX Brown) around RM380 now.
https://shopee.com.my/search?keyword=aw768

Driver is included with Windows 10 May 2020.
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Hi all,

My Aula mechanical keyboard space bar is not working properly. And I'm unable to remove the space bar. Anyone can help me? I'm in PJ area.

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QUOTE(PalakOtakHang @ Jul 13 2020, 01:06 AM)
i posted here time to time with another account. Now change account because privacy invaded matter  laugh.gif

anyway i just built this keyboard
user posted image'
gateron brown with springs changed to 55g, switch film added, springs lubed with 104, stabs band aid+clip, 4mm eva foam between pcb/backplate and everything else lubed with 205.

A lot of building processes which I thought was easy, turned up to be not.  tongue.gif I made tons of mistakes and took very long time messing around with the keyboard  biggrin.gif . Every thing is quite fun for me except the lubing part.  ranting.gif

The major mistakes i did were
- soldering quite a number of switches without the switches fully touching the PCB. Luckily i realized something was wrong before i proceeded to solder more switches. I learnt that it is very difficult to push the switches 'into' the pcb. My fingers are hurt now because of it.  biggrin.gif

-cutting the foam to put between plate and pcb. I ended up giving up and put nothing in between the plate and pcb. Have to be very precise in cutting the foam to leave enough space for each switch and stabilizers, but I failed miserably. All the shapes i drew by aligning the plate to the foam were all incorrect due to the stretchy nature of the eva foam and also not drawing exactly at the edges using pen. I wasted most of my time here.  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif Here is the showcase of my masterpiece. 

I feel that Gat browns lubed are indeed overly light for me as oppose to be using MX Blues which I think is heavy. Might have to change all the switches to heavier ones in the future bangwall.gif  shakehead.gif

I had bought some 3mm LED bulbs, but havent soldered them yet. The led holes are at the lower part of the switches. I tested the leds through the holes with a lithium bat, but the effect is like very disappointing. All the letters/symbols are floating towards upper part of a key cap. I think last time someone asked the same question, but now how ah? I didn't know because I see the mx switches in razer mkb are all upside down one. XD

Also, the taihao keycaps im using dont have R0 1U Ctrl, FN, Alt and numpad 0 & R4 Delete, End and Page Down. doh.gif I wasn't thinking so thoroughly before this. I think most of the keycaps set doesnt have these, am i right? I read some where people saying have to buy the ortholinear keycap set of a GB/preorder lol. Can any1 give me advice regarding this?
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not all have such matching key caps. try look for key sets that can support multiple layouts, e.g. those from enjoypbt (and also jtk, or gmk)

QUOTE(michael881 @ Jul 13 2020, 05:47 PM)
Hi all,

My Aula mechanical keyboard space bar is not working properly. And I'm unable to remove the space bar. Anyone can help me? I'm in PJ area.

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it should be a space bar key cap that has tight stem holes. just lift it up with relatively more force, but do this slowly.

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QUOTE(michael881 @ Jul 13 2020, 05:47 PM)
Hi all,

My Aula mechanical keyboard space bar is not working properly. And I'm unable to remove the space bar. Anyone can help me? I'm in PJ area.

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I got the same keyboard as yours. Try pulling with equal force on left, middle and right as it has 3 stems.

I got a quesstion for the pros here, is it that any keycaps can be used for this keyboard? I'm thinking of getting some cheap keycaps for it.
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Soldered leds. Learnt the hard way that not all legs orientation are the same. Had to resolder some leds too because they are too “shallow”. Learnt some tricks when desoldering/desoldering, im getting better at it biggrin.gif


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key caps too. Also backlit effect turns out to be less decent than how I imagined it to be.
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My razer blackwidow stealth now got double click key problem..

Thinking want to change to Tecware Phantom 2020 TKL RGB....

is it recommended?
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QUOTE(FunkyBass @ Jul 15 2020, 12:13 PM)
My razer blackwidow stealth now got double click key problem..

Thinking want to change to Tecware Phantom 2020 TKL RGB....

is it recommended?
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That will be a downgrade in more ways than not.

I suggest you can get something similar to this:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09...._u=f2eoes4od5c4

just a few drips into the problematic switches and it works wonder. I've fixed 5-6 misbehaving keys on a kb and another 2 keys on another kb.

I think it is only some thin lubricant, so it also reduce some scratchiness for me.
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Is there any gateron brown keyboard beside tecware elite?
Need keyboard recommendation sifus
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QUOTE(FunkyBass @ Jul 15 2020, 12:13 PM)
My razer blackwidow stealth now got double click key problem..

Thinking want to change to Tecware Phantom 2020 TKL RGB....

is it recommended?
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if possible get phantom elite tkl. afaik, phantom 2020 tkl uses outemu sockets, which can only support outemu switches.

QUOTE(nbotsduo @ Jul 15 2020, 06:00 PM)
Is there any gateron brown keyboard beside tecware elite?
Need keyboard recommendation sifus
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iinm there are models from coolermaster that uses gateron brown.

however i think it's better to get phantom elite if you are interested in experiencing different switches later. with tweaks, tecware phantom elite is a good option imo.
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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 16 2020, 01:34 AM)
if possible get phantom elite tkl. afaik, phantom 2020 tkl uses outemu sockets, which can only support outemu switches.
iinm there are models from coolermaster that uses gateron brown.

however i think it's better to get phantom elite if you are interested in experiencing different switches later. with tweaks, tecware phantom elite is a good option imo.
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any idea where to find Phantom Elite TKL? seems like only full size got stock on shopee and laz locally.
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Recently my G613 got few keys starting to not responding, double type, or even triple... ( numpad area ), including the Enter Key from Numpad too... when it's not working, i pop off the keycap, blow into it, and it works for a while before back into not working. same for other keys... what's wrong?

I used Contact Cleaner, alcohol too.


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Recently my G613 got few keys starting to not responding, double type, or even triple... ( numpad area ), including the Enter Key from Numpad too... when it's not working, i pop off the keycap, blow into it, and it works for a while before back into not working. same for other keys... what's wrong?

I used Contact Cleaner, alcohol too.
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it should be dust. usually. if this is the case you can just repeat the air blowing part when it happens again.

however if you are ok with desoldering, you can just desolder, open them up, then clean them up

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it should be dust. usually. if this is the case you can just repeat the air blowing part when it happens again.

however if you are ok with desoldering, you can just desolder, open them up, then clean them up
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I am looking at solder kit sold on shoppe...

those one with a bag... inside it has the solder wire.... ( is that what you call them )... will that be okay for use on soldering keyboard switches?

if i remember correctly... i read somewhere that the solder wire has size and must use xxmm on certain soldering on pcb.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 17 2020, 12:16 AM)
I am looking at solder kit sold on shoppe...

those one with a bag... inside it has the solder wire.... ( is that what you call them )... will that be okay for use on soldering keyboard switches?

if i remember correctly... i read somewhere that the solder wire has size and must use xxmm on certain soldering on pcb.
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Solder you can use 0.8mm or 1mm. If smaller than that, you will have to keep feeding solder to tip; If bigger, you might face difficulty melting the solder. You don't want your solder iron to be too hot too because will damage PCB.

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Solder you can use 0.8mm or 1mm. If smaller than that, you will have to keep feeding solder to tip; If bigger, you might face difficulty melting the solder. You don't want your solder iron to be too hot too because will damage PCB.
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This one says adjustable heat..... not sure about the solder wire diameter....

Do i need to put a thin coat on the switches bottom pin before inserting into the pcb?

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I am looking at solder kit sold on shoppe...

those one with a bag... inside it has the solder wire.... ( is that what you call them )... will that be okay for use on soldering keyboard switches?

if i remember correctly... i read somewhere that the solder wire has size and must use xxmm on certain soldering on pcb.
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you can search this thread with keyword 'solder'. we talked about this just recently, with some reference on which solder wires to use.

about size, i use 0.6mm because it's comfortable for me to solder switches and led.
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you can search this thread with keyword 'solder'. we talked about this just recently, with some reference on which solder wires to use.

about size, i use 0.6mm because it's comfortable for me to solder switches and led.
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not very versed in soldering terms... lol....
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not very versed in soldering terms... lol....
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same here hahaha

however, a temperature-controlled soldering iron, good solder wires, and a good desoldering pump allow me to manage my custom builds much easier now. still lack of practice, but can get the jobs done lol

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same here hahaha

however, a temperature-controlled soldering iron, good solder wires, and a good desoldering pump allow me to manage my custom builds much easier now. still lack of practice, but can get the jobs done lol
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How many times would you dare to desolder a board? What's a safe limit in your opinion?

I just lifted a pad in my cospad the other day....I think I was desoldering it for the 3rd time.
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same here hahaha

however, a temperature-controlled soldering iron, good solder wires, and a good desoldering pump allow me to manage my custom builds much easier now. still lack of practice, but can get the jobs done lol
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those solder kit in a bag cost about 40 - 50 is good?

what you use?
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those solder kit in a bag cost about 40 - 50 is good?

what you use?
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How many times would you dare to desolder a board? What's a safe limit in your opinion?

I just lifted a pad in my cospad the other day....I think I was desoldering it for the 3rd time.
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i believe 3 times. i did few the second time. (dz60, yd60mq)

if shit happened, then it's time to learn wire jumping haha

QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 17 2020, 02:08 PM)
those solder kit in a bag cost about 40 - 50 is good?

what you use?
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if you are staying near Puchong I can borrow you Huang Hua soldering iron, stand, and the Mechanic HX-T100 soldering wire to experience soldering for yourself
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So i bought this and waiting to arrive....




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So i bought this and waiting to arrive....
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good luck !
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I only done once soldering back at high school , and i think it's been 8 years since then. I not really sure how to desolder and solder.... Youtube makes it looks easy... but i afraid i might mess up and destroy my keyboard's pcb, like the pad (contact hole on pcb ) raised... any idea to avoid that?

My Keyboard is G613, it's mounted on a plate ( i think it's metal painted in black ), and i read somewhere after desolder , have to use some plier or tweezer to remove and gently too....
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 17 2020, 08:27 PM)
I only done once soldering back at high school , and i think it's been 8 years since then. I not really sure how to desolder and solder.... Youtube makes it looks easy... but i afraid i might mess up and destroy my keyboard's pcb, like the pad (contact hole on pcb ) raised... any idea to avoid that?

My Keyboard is G613, it's mounted on a plate ( i think it's metal painted in black ), and i read somewhere after desolder , have to use some plier or tweezer to remove and gently too....
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sokay, ive damaged a few old boards. my test beds. lul.
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lol... how to avoid that? how it got damaged? too hot? or the soldering iron touched too long?

and got specific solder wire to use? or the one included in the kit is sufficient?
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 17 2020, 08:45 PM)
lol... how to avoid that? how it got damaged? too hot? or the soldering iron touched too long?

and got specific solder wire to use? or the one included in the kit is sufficient?
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i think its the mixture of all the above.

its sufficient. just dont leave the iron doing nothing for too long.
gets oxidize easy so tip no good. so bad soldering job. so damage board.

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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 16 2020, 09:08 PM)
Recently my G613 got few keys starting to not responding, double type, or even triple... ( numpad area ), including the Enter Key from Numpad too... when it's not working, i pop off the keycap, blow into it, and it works for a while before back into not working. same for other keys... what's wrong?

I used Contact Cleaner, alcohol too.
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I hoped you used some kind of blower instead of physically blowing into it. Our breathes has water vapour in it, technically accelerates the oxidisation process.

QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 17 2020, 01:20 PM)
How many times would you dare to desolder a board? What's a safe limit in your opinion?

I just lifted a pad in my cospad the other day....I think I was desoldering it for the 3rd time.
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I would say pretty unlimited if it's a good, properly made PCB, provided you do it right with the right tools. I've used a dead Razer as a "switch leg solder cleaner" for countless times of soldering and desoldering (just to get switch legs cleanly desoldered after desoldering from unleaded solder boards) and the pads are still intact, no signs of damage.
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I hoped you used some kind of blower instead of physically blowing into it. Our breathes has water vapour in it, technically accelerates the oxidisation process.
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I used Visbella Electronic cleaner, and then used hair dryer in cold to accelerate the drying.

It works fine for a day and then back to no register, double/triple type.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 17 2020, 11:03 PM)
I used Visbella Electronic cleaner, and then used hair dryer in cold to accelerate the drying.

It works fine for a day and then back to no register, double/triple type.
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If you had used some form of contact cleaner, it's fine, just don't go blowing our breath into the switches, albeit, it's a common mistake most of us do.
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If you had used some form of contact cleaner, it's fine, just don't go blowing our breath into the switches, albeit, it's a common mistake most of us do.
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Will remember that.... you do soldering before?

May i ask your opinion on which switch is better durability/lifespan? Romer G, or Cherry switches?


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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 17 2020, 08:45 PM)
lol... how to avoid that? how it got damaged? too hot? or the soldering iron touched too long?

and got specific solder wire to use? or the one included in the kit is sufficient?
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if you're worried then maybe can get GRexer's help. I recently got his service to desolder a Poker 2 PCB, the man did a damn great job!
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if you're worried then maybe can get GRexer's help. I recently got his service to desolder a Poker 2 PCB, the man did a damn great job!
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Oh... i bought the soldering kit, might as well experience it myself first. how much he charge per key? i also bought a bunch of Romer G switch from Shoppe.....
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 18 2020, 12:06 AM)
Will remember that.... you do soldering before?

May i ask your opinion on which switch is better durability/lifespan? Romer G, or Cherry switches?
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Can't say for sure coz I had never had a Romer-G keyboard on my own use but Cherry had been quite reliable on me, but, yeah, sometimes there are "duds/lemons" that wear out prematurely, really depends on the use condition I guess, dust, moisture etc does increases the chances of corrosion.

QUOTE(ntw @ Jul 18 2020, 12:55 AM)
if you're worried then maybe can get GRexer's help. I recently got his service to desolder a Poker 2 PCB, the man did a damn great job!
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Thanks for the recommendation! wub.gif wub.gif

QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 18 2020, 01:46 AM)
Oh... i bought the soldering kit, might as well experience it myself first. how much he charge per key? i also bought a bunch of Romer G switch from Shoppe.....
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Repairs I do typically charge per key unless there's a lot and would charge a flat rate for desoldering/soldering fees, but since you had bought some switches and that you're willing to try, yeah, I guess can go ahead.

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Everglide has 熊猫卫星轴. What is it known as in English? I mean like XXXXX stabilizers, what is the XXXXX?
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Those are plate mount stabilisers. Nicknamed panda coz of the colour scheme. Think it was black housing with white stem and gold wires.
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ducky one 2 SF + cherry red switch is it good for WFH purpose... mostly for typing.

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ducky one 2 SF + cherry red switch is it good for WFH purpose... mostly for typing.
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if you need more specific answers, please try to rephrase.
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tested the heat shrink mod by rama, https://rama.works/silencing-stabilisers using this heat shrink, 1.5mm, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=546121290127

while it helps in silencing the tinkling sound, it will lead to mushiness. this means for silent switches, this might be useful, but not for normal switches.

so far, the better option is to stick fabric band-aid on the top part of wire tips. for now i just do this for plate-mount stabilizers, to see if they can hold up.
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anyone can help me choose solder wire for soldering keyboard, there's so much brand, size on lazada/shopee.... which one to choose?
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anyone can help me choose solder wire for soldering keyboard, there's so much brand, size on lazada/shopee.... which one to choose?
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personally find that the 0.6mm Mechanic solder works great. also tested 0.8mm before and it was too thick

I'm extending the same offer again. I have a lot of extra and I'm not building keyboards anymore. so if you wanna, come collect from me, just return the leftover when you are done. icon_rolleyes.gif

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personally find that the 0.6mm Mechanic solder works great. also tested 0.8mm before and it was too thick

I'm extending the same offer again. I have a lot of extra and I'm not building keyboards anymore. so if you wanna, come collect from me, just return the leftover when you are done.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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0.6mm? with resin flux core? i am looking to buy it and keep for future uses if needed.... any brand will do?
Thanks for your offer though smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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0.6mm? with resin flux core? i am looking to buy it and keep for future uses if needed.... any brand will do?
Thanks for your offer though smile.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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https://shopee.com.my/Mechanic-soldering-wa...3666.2361088797
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What are your inexpensive options when brown switches, even with O-rings, are still too loud for your liking?

Lubrication isn't cheap. Neither are specific silent/quiet switches. Especially so, when you are opting for a keyboard from the budget end of the scale like a Tecware Phantom or a Cooler Master CK350/CK550, and the value of doing so isn't there.

I know some people mention soft pads, but is that even available in Malaysia?

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I'm on the market for new keyboard. Currently using Logitech g513 but this keyboard already double typing, rgb not working, and not registering input sometimes.

Originally want to buy either Logitech g813 or Corsair k95 platinum xt, but reddit enthusiast said both are shit keyboard manufacturer and said only ducky keyboard make the best mech kb.

I want to ask where else to find ducky kb other than shopee and lazada because both brown keys I want to find are sold out. I specifically want the ducky shine 7. Thanks
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QUOTE(ssxxcool @ Jul 23 2020, 09:11 PM)
I'm on the market for new keyboard. Currently using Logitech g513 but this keyboard already double typing, rgb not working, and not registering input sometimes.

Originally want to buy either Logitech g813 or Corsair k95 platinum xt, but reddit enthusiast said both are shit keyboard manufacturer and said only ducky keyboard make the best mech kb.

I want to ask where else to find ducky kb other than shopee and lazada because both brown keys I want to find are sold out. I specifically want the ducky shine 7. Thanks
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How about IKBC?

https://shopee.com.my/IKBC-MF108-RGB-V3-Alu...6936.4142308200
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QUOTE(ssxxcool @ Jul 23 2020, 09:11 PM)
I'm on the market for new keyboard. Currently using Logitech g513 but this keyboard already double typing, rgb not working, and not registering input sometimes.

Originally want to buy either Logitech g813 or Corsair k95 platinum xt, but reddit enthusiast said both are shit keyboard manufacturer and said only ducky keyboard make the best mech kb.

I want to ask where else to find ducky kb other than shopee and lazada because both brown keys I want to find are sold out. I specifically want the ducky shine 7. Thanks
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Hi, I want to ask about your Logitech G513 keyboard problems, same as mine G613, except it doesn't have led.... how many keys you have now? Mine have 10 keys.... most Numbers (numpad with NumLock key ), right arrow.
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QUOTE(ntw @ Jul 23 2020, 10:52 PM)
Never heard of that brand so I'm sceptical

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Hi, I want to ask about your Logitech G513 keyboard problems, same as mine G613, except it doesn't have led.... how many keys you have now? Mine have 10 keys.... most Numbers (numpad with NumLock key ), right arrow.
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Don't understand the question. G513 is a full sized kb so I have all the keys
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Never heard of that brand so I'm sceptical
Don't understand the question. G513 is a full sized kb so I have all the keys
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I mean how many keys you have problem with now? I have about 10. Mine's G613
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I mean how many keys you have problem with now?  I have about 10. Mine's G613
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Less than 10. I need to hentam that key only then it registers input. Frustrated bcuz wfh using excel
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QUOTE(ssxxcool @ Jul 23 2020, 11:25 PM)
Never heard of that brand so I'm sceptical
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base on my experience with ducky and iKBC, iKBC stabs feels nicer stock.
but both mine are the lower spec/line of keyboards.
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Never heard of that brand so I'm sceptical

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ikbc mf108 is a 5.5-pound full-aluminum beast (2.5kg). at that price, it's a damn good deal.
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ikbc is a china manufacturer amongst other big brands like leopold, varmillo, filco, ducky.

not sure why shopee and lazada sell so expensive, they are usually cheaper compared to other big brands.

standard cherry mx switches, pbt keycaps and metal plate mounted. You can actually go Viewnet to test the keyboards out before purchase, iinm they have several models available.
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QUOTE(Cold|Drawn @ Jul 24 2020, 12:09 AM)
ikbc is a china manufacturer amongst other big brands like leopold, varmillo, filco, ducky.

not sure why shopee and lazada sell so expensive, they are usually cheaper compared to other big brands.

standard cherry mx switches, pbt keycaps and metal plate mounted. You can actually go Viewnet to test the keyboards out before purchase, iinm they have several models available.
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don't say expensive first. this model is the latest edition (v3) of their full-metal mf series, not their usual models with plastic case.
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jul 23 2020, 11:52 PM)
base on my experience with ducky and iKBC, iKBC stabs feels nicer stock.
but both mine are the lower spec/line of keyboards.
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ikbc mf108 is a 5.5-pound full-aluminum beast (2.5kg). at that price, it's a damn good deal.
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Not good deal. Corsair and Logitech at that price have volume wheel, media keys, macros
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Not good deal. Corsair and Logitech at that price have volume wheel, media keys, macros
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depends on what u looking for in a kibod thou.
even with the extra features, u urself have read in reddit that both are shit kibod manufacturer. plus, u also experienced it urself with ur logi kibod.

anyhow, if on stock, i prefer the typing experience with iKBC(comparing to ducky). nicer stabs since switches are both by cherry. but again, i have an old ducky compare to newer gen of iKBC.
can ask horns in-depth review of kibods. he has more kibods than me. whistling.gif


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Not good deal. Corsair and Logitech at that price have volume wheel, media keys, macros
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The MF108 is their top of the line and slightly better quality than the Ducky Shine 7 (Full alu top and bottom vs zinc top and plastic bottom)

Corsair at that price only has alu top and plastic bottom.

Plus IKBC is highly regarded (though less famous) by r/mk.

Other good brands I would recommend are Leopold and Durgod.
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Not good deal. Corsair and Logitech at that price have volume wheel, media keys, macros
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What are your inexpensive options when brown switches, even with O-rings, are still too loud for your liking?

Lubrication isn't cheap. Neither are specific silent/quiet switches. Especially so, when you are opting for a keyboard from the budget end of the scale like a Tecware Phantom or a Cooler Master CK350/CK550, and the value of doing so isn't there.

I know some people mention soft pads, but is that even available in Malaysia?
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Unless your o rings are too thin, you are not looking at switch noise anymore IMO.

You might want to look into the acoustics of the case you are using. Maybe it is too hollow and would benefit to have some foam in it. And foam between PCB and plate is an awesome mod if you have the patience and dedication.
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these days there is a grooming trend of switch films released by various vendors. here is the list that i know of:

1. tx, https://txkeyboard.com/
2. kebo, https://kebo.store/products/switch-films
3. deskey, https://deskeys.io/
4. thicc, https://maartenwut.com/product/thicc-films/
5. kelowna, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=620073366941

these switch films are with different thickness, and some are with different materials. tx will also release a thinner edition of their switch gap films, mainly for nk/kailh cream switches. (the original ones are too thick for them)

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Unless your o rings are too thin, you are not looking at switch noise anymore IMO.

You might want to look into the acoustics of the case you are using. Maybe it is too hollow and would benefit to have some foam in it. And foam between PCB and plate is an awesome mod if you have the patience and dedication.
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Where would you suggest I go look for thicker o-rings, preferably ones that are more translucent as well since the ones I have seem to somewhat mute the LED emanating from the keycaps as well? And also the foam. I know what they look like from Youtube, etc, but I don't see them on Lazada/Shopee.

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Where would you suggest I go look for thicker o-rings, preferably ones that are more translucent as well since the ones I have seem to somewhat mute the LED emanating from the keycaps as well? And also the foam. I know what they look like from Youtube, etc, but I don't see them on Lazada/Shopee.

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I've bought o-rings that were not advertised for MKBs before that were too thin and did almost nothing for the feel/sound. If you bought something like this you should be fine.
https://shopee.com.my/O-Ring-Switch-Keyboar...1616.7122987078

Don't know about the transparency, I've never used them with any keyboard that had LEDs.

You can check the previous thread, pages 107-109, for my adventures in foaming.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4538548/+2120
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I've bought o-rings that were not advertised for MKBs before that were too thin and did almost nothing for the feel/sound. If you bought something like this you should be fine.
https://shopee.com.my/O-Ring-Switch-Keyboar...1616.7122987078
Yes, my batch of O-rings weren't specifically for keyboards. They were from an AV equipment shop in Jalan Pasar in Pudu. I guess I should measure the dimensions and see if that was the problem.

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Don't know about the transparency, I've never used them with any keyboard that had LEDs.

You can check the previous thread, pages 107-109, for my adventures in foaming.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4538548/+2120
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Looks like you MacGyver-ed yours. I was looking for something like a China-brand of EliteKeyboard's Landing Pads.

Thanks again.
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if possible get phantom elite tkl. afaik, phantom 2020 tkl uses outemu sockets, which can only support outemu switches.
iinm there are models from coolermaster that uses gateron brown.

however i think it's better to get phantom elite if you are interested in experiencing different switches later. with tweaks, tecware phantom elite is a good option imo.
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Cant find phantom elite in lowyat....
But they got sell spectre pro....
Is it better than elite?
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Cant find phantom elite in lowyat....
But they got sell spectre pro....
Is it better than elite?
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for phantom elite, including tkl, you can try pm quovadis123.

no, spectre pro is an outemu-switch only board.

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omg i thought we were beyond this?

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https://www.lowyat.net/2020/217659/razer-cy...brane-keyboard/


RM299


i strongly recommend going mkb. Aren't those around 400-500? or maybe it's cheaper these days? confused.gif


Trust me it's worth the price even if it cost a bit more nod.gif

Heck i spent a bit more on dye sublimated and double shot keycaps. And the contrast is as clear as since day 1 when i bought them. And the mechanical switches still fine up till now. Yes you do pay a bit more but you still get a better product, something you use probably often.

I use to have painful palms typing, but not since i switched mx brown switches from membrane keyboard biggrin.gif



sure there is still a place for membrane keyboards. but i wouldn't purchase a so called gaming keyboard at that price. you can get a plain keyboard for far cheaper (the only point is, you want a cheap keyboard, that's it). if you need an actual gaming keyboard, or just a much better keyboard, just increase your budget and go for mkb thumbup.gif

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Looks like you MacGyver-ed yours. I was looking for something like a China-brand of EliteKeyboard's Landing Pads.

Thanks again.
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No problem. I had to Google what landing pads are. They replace O rings IMO and not case/PCB foam.

And MacGyvering IS the inexpensive option. Otherwise you'd get it from people like MKUltra.click
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omg i thought we were beyond this?
https://www.lowyat.net/2020/217659/razer-cy...brane-keyboard/
RM299
i strongly recommend going mkb. Aren't those around 400-500? or maybe it's cheaper these days?  confused.gif


Trust me it's worth the price even if it cost a bit more  nod.gif

Heck i spent a bit more on dye sublimated and double shot keycaps. And the contrast is as clear as since day 1 when i bought them. And the mechanical switches still fine up till now. Yes you do pay a bit more but you still get a better product, something you use probably often.

I use to have painful palms typing, but not since i switched mx brown switches from membrane keyboard biggrin.gif
sure there is still a place for membrane keyboards. but i wouldn't purchase a so called gaming keyboard at that price. you can get a plain keyboard for far cheaper (the only point is, you want a cheap keyboard, that's it). if you need an actual gaming keyboard, or just a much better keyboard, just increase your budget and go for mkb  thumbup.gif
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in reality, you can get tecware phantom elite below that price. with switch hot-swapping feature, basic tuning will make it way better than stock.

it's a weird move from razer haha

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Been using this RM90 (bought during taobao sales) Royal Kludge RK987 for abit more than a week now... It's surprisingly very good. Metal switch mounting plate and all the stabilizers came lubed out of the box.

so wondering if if anyone heard of this one ->
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21wu....id=606987773773

Their cheaper model that im using comes with fake cherry mx switches which are re-cased kailhs but they also come with actual cherry MXs. The only downside is the bluetooth seems to be a little weak. So im using the USB-C wired mode and not been able to test if there's any bluetooth input lag while gaming.
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one more thing i'd like to confirm with soldering, How much temperature should i set the soldering iron at for soldering the switches with a 60/40 solder wire?






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Hi,

I need a mechanical keyboard with numpad but don't want it to be full size as it will be heavy and difficult to move it around.

I found the Leopold FC980M seem to be a good form factor for me but was wondering where can I try them out.
Any shops selling them?
And do other brands carry such form / size?

Bcos Leopold is really expensive.
Wonder if they comes in 2nd hand.


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one more thing i'd like to confirm with soldering, How much temperature should i set the soldering iron at for soldering the switches with a 60/40 solder wire?
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Those things don't have a sensor in them (open loop) so take the numbers with a pinch of salt. I'd try 300 and go higher only if it takes too long to melt the solder or too much time to recover between pins.

QUOTE(Longshot @ Jul 26 2020, 04:07 PM)
Hi,

I need a mechanical keyboard with numpad but don't want it to be full size as it will be heavy and difficult to move it around.

I found the Leopold FC980M seem to be a good form factor for me but was wondering where can I try them out.
Any shops selling them?
And do other brands carry such form / size?

Bcos Leopold is really expensive.
Wonder if they comes in 2nd hand.
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The form factor you are looking at is called 1800. You can also have a look at 96% form factor. So maybe Google those two terms and see what catches your eye. Or maybe an external numpad?
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one more thing i'd like to confirm with soldering, How much temperature should i set the soldering iron at for soldering the switches with a 60/40 solder wire?
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generally on PCB i set to 300C but i have never done on keyboards before. However, i'll assume they're the same. You dont want temps to be too high but also dont want it taking too long to melt the solder.
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hi guys, want to ask again. thinking of going to lowyat during lunch 2moro.

anyone know which store sells ducky kb in lowyat?

thanks

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 26 2020, 05:23 PM)
Those things don't have a sensor in them (open loop) so take the numbers with a pinch of salt. I'd try 300 and go higher only if it takes too long to melt the solder or too much time to recover between pins.
The form factor you are looking at is called 1800. You can also have a look at 96% form factor. So maybe Google those two terms and see what catches your eye. Or maybe an external numpad?
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96% or 1800, Thanks for the clarification...👍
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Any recommendation wireless backlit mechanical keyboard other than logitech G915 or Corsair k63?
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Guys, is it worth to upgrade from razer blackwidow to huntsman?
I have been using blackwidow for 4 years now and thought of changing to huntsman elite. Looks cool.
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Hi all, any local seller that sell Keychron? or is it have to order thru their official website?
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Guys, is it worth to upgrade from razer blackwidow to huntsman?
I have been using blackwidow for 4 years now and thought of changing to huntsman elite. Looks cool.
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it's a question that you should answer it yourself.

everyone has their own preferences and expectations. if you're ok with the stock typing experience, so be it.

QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jul 28 2020, 11:20 PM)
Hi all, any local seller that sell Keychron? or is it have to order thru their official website?
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it's said that it will come here, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMec...01366840099539/

when? not sure.
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it's a question that you should answer it yourself.

everyone has their own preferences and expectations. if you're ok with the stock typing experience, so be it.
it's said that it will come here, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMec...01366840099539/

when? not sure.
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delivery will cost u USD13
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delivery will cost u USD13
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oh. 13usd is considered ok already. there are places in this world that cost few times more than that for the same stuff (not yet talking about tax yet)
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delivery will cost u USD13
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That's cheap.
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That's cheap.
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but but,

im cheaper whistling.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 29 2020, 04:07 PM)
oh. 13usd is considered ok already. there are places in this world that cost few times more than that for the same stuff (not yet talking about tax yet)
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but but,

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oh. 13usd is considered ok already. there are places in this world that cost few times more than that for the same stuff (not yet talking about tax yet)
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 29 2020, 04:10 PM)
That's cheap.
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Ya consider cheap dy, my friend want to chip in as well biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jul 29 2020, 05:15 PM)
Ya consider cheap dy, my friend want to chip in as well  biggrin.gif
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nice smile.gif

in general, when we buy anything, don't just look at the price tag of the items only. take into accounts potential costs like bank charges, logistics, and tax also, so that you get the idea of the actual amount that you need to pay.


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nice smile.gif

in general, when we buy anything, don't just look at the price tag of the items only. take into accounts potential costs like bank charges, logistics, and tax also, so that you get the idea of the actual amount that you need to pay.
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missed the time when 1USD = RM3 tho icon_idea.gif last time got borong from newegg
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missed the time when 1USD = RM3 tho  icon_idea.gif last time got borong from newegg
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hahaha yeah those were the good old days

fret not we still have taobao/tmall/aliexpress, for instance, https://keychron.tmall.com/

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you can try putting a small piece of fabric tape on the top part of both wire tips, then lube them with plastic-safe grease, like permatex, or superlube. i did the same to my space bar. there is no more tinkling sound even if i tapped very lightly on either side.
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Hi Horns. Any pics or link for this? I've figured out a way to cut my foam to allow my space stab to be removed after desoldering the space switch(in theory) and will be tuning my stabs this weekend.
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Hi Horns. Any pics or link for this? I've figured out a way to cut my foam to allow my space stab to be removed after desoldering the space switch(in theory) and will be tuning my stabs this weekend.
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edit: about heat shrink mod, one friend in the mymkb group suggested that the heat shrink's length is reduced to 5mm from rama's 6mm to get rid of the mushy feel. i haven't tested this.


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edit: about heat shrink mod, one friend in the mymkb group suggested that the heat shrink's length is reduced to 5mm from rama's 6mm to get rid of the mushy feel. i haven't tested this.
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Thanks! The O ring mod video you posted also looks interesting though. Aiyo how la. I don't want to keep desoldering my switches to mod, later my PCB die.
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Thanks! The O ring mod video you posted also looks interesting though. Aiyo how la. I don't want to keep desoldering my switches to mod, later my PCB die.
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uh? there is no need to keep desoldering bro. you can test them out without soldering first.

for the o-ring mod, it's useful for silent builds mainly, and it's for plate-mount stabs only. don't do it for pcb-mount stabs. (the sliders are easy to get popped off due to full-clipping)
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uh? there is no need to keep desoldering bro. you can test them out without soldering first.

for the o-ring mod, it's useful for silent builds mainly, and it's for plate-mount stabs only. don't do it for pcb-mount stabs. (the sliders are easy to get popped off due to full-clipping)
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But I don't think I have o rings small enough to fit in there. Or can it take the same size as keycap o rings? I don’t think there is enough space.

So either desolder multiple times or wait to get small o rings.
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hi, i am new comer. I just got my new mechnical keyboard - Kemove61 with TTC gold pink switches at 37g.

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Cant find phantom elite in lowyat....
But they got sell spectre pro....
Is it better than elite?
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Phantom Elite has PWM hiss/buzzing issue? Tried to use Phantom96 before and the hissing from PWM is annoying
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jul 30 2020, 12:10 PM)
But I don't think I have o rings small enough to fit in there. Or can it take the same size as keycap o rings? I don’t think there is enough space.

So either desolder multiple times or wait to get small o rings.
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the one i use is 4mm (o-ring diameter) x 1mm (thickness)

it's better to wait for o-rings to reach first. i use gk64 hot-swap to test.

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hi, i am new comer. I just got my new mechnical keyboard - Kemove61 with TTC gold pink switches at 37g.
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not too light for you?

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Phantom Elite has PWM hiss/buzzing issue? Tried to use Phantom96 before and the hissing from PWM is annoying
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really? you might be the first who mentioned this.
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the one i use is 4mm (o-ring diameter) x 1mm (thickness)

it's better to wait for o-rings to reach first. i use gk64 hot-swap to test.
not too light for you?
really? you might be the first who mentioned this.
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I checked on Reddit and it is quite common they say. It happens on certain RGB colors only. Some are low hissing, some are high
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not too light for you?

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as soft as Gateron white switch, slightly firm.


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Switches and soldering tools arrived few days ago, soldered new switches in, works okay...

The older switches which i suspect have double click actually is fine, i used greases, and carefully put on four corners of the housing, and some thin layer on the actuator, and carefully not touching the contact pins... and soldered back in, and it's been very responsive like when it's new.

The keyboard now works fine.

I experienced de-soldering and solder it back with everyone who helped giving me tips and guidance , and now i am not that nervous , and surprisingly it's pretty easy.

the switches :
https://shopee.com.my/product/135044210/2577910491

- the switches quality looks totally legit, with different plastic texture compared to factory switches, but they are 100% identical with G Logo and omron logo, no defects of any sort.








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I checked on Reddit and it is quite common they say. It happens on certain RGB colors only. Some are low hissing, some are high
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oh ok. if it's the root cause, just turn it off if you really cannot stand it.

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as soft as Gateron white switch, slightly firm.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jul 30 2020, 11:21 PM)
Switches and soldering tools arrived few days ago, soldered new switches in, works okay...

The older switches which i suspect have double click actually is fine, i used greases, and carefully put on four corners of the housing, and some thin layer on the actuator, and carefully not touching the contact pins... and soldered back in, and it's been very responsive like when it's new.

The keyboard now works fine.

I experienced de-soldering and solder it back with everyone who helped giving me tips and guidance , and now i am not that nervous , and surprisingly it's pretty easy.

the switches :
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- the switches quality looks totally legit, with different plastic texture compared to factory switches, but they are 100% identical with G Logo and omron logo, no defects of any sort.
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now you know why veterans always ask us to learn soldering and desoldering.
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now you know why veterans always ask us to learn soldering and desoldering.
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Do switches need greases? is it key chattering due to dried up greases over the years?

I lubed with automotive greases on ' double registering switches ' and it's back to okay again... confused.gif so, the switches are actually faulty or just need lubing?

I dissembled the new switches i bought from china and there's seems to be some transparent greases on the actuator... so it must be when over the years, the greases will gone from all the pressings?

I read about the terms ' lubing the switches ' for cherry switches, does that also to all switches of all makes? like Outemu, Cherry, romer-g, Gatereon?

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Do switches need greases? is it key chattering due to dried up greases over the years?

I lubed with automotive greases on ' double registering switches ' and it's back to okay again...  confused.gif so, the switches are actually faulty or just need lubing?

I dissembled the new switches i bought from china and there's seems to be some transparent greases on the actuator... so it must be when over the years, the greases will gone from all the pressings?

I read about the terms ' lubing the switches ' for cherry switches, does that also to all switches of all makes? like Outemu, Cherry, romer-g, Gatereon?
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normally, stock switches are pre-lubed at factory. however, the amount is minimal, and only covers few areas in a switch.

key chattering is not really due to the absence of lube, but the presence of dust.

yes, we do lube our switches to have better typing experience. (sound and feel) it's one of basic modifications that can apply to all switches. techniques and lube used depend on switch type, and own preferences.

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normally, stock switches are pre-lubed at factory. however, the amount is minimal, and only covers few areas in a switch.

key chattering is not really due to the absence of lube, but the presence of dust.

yes, we do lube our switches to have better typing experience. (sound and feel) it's one of basic modifications that can apply to all switches. techniques and lube used depend on switch type, and own preferences.
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I see.... i opened, the lube is thin and only cover the actuators, the side housing where the friction is none.
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I see.... i opened, the lube is thin and only cover the actuators, the side housing where the friction is none.
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that's why lubing them properly with the right lube will give relatively better experience compared to stock.


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that's why lubing them properly with the right lube will give relatively better experience compared to stock.
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I used the automotive one, should be okay right?

it feels nice though... i can't feel friction. is there special lube/grease for mechanical switches?

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I used the automotive one, should be okay right?

it feels nice though... i can't feel friction. is there special lube/grease for mechanical switches?
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it's not ok if it's petroleum-based. it might melt plastic parts in a switch. use plastic-safe type.

after testing out a number of them, i stick to krytox gpl series for switches and stabilizers, mainly because of its quality consistency and very long shelf life. (more than 10 years)
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it's not ok if it's petroleum-based. it might melt plastic parts in a switch. use plastic-safe type.

after testing out a number of them, i stick to krytox gpl series for switches and stabilizers, mainly because of its quality consistency and very long shelf life. (more than 10 years)
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I stored the grease in a plastic container, it looks okay though..... How to tell if it's petrolueum-based?



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Yeah, definitely am not ready to pay as much for shipping compared to the product which might not even end up making a huge difference. Rather experiment with quirky mods and save the money for the eventual next keyboard/build
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https://flashquark.com/product/genuine-cher...ed-stabilizers/
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I stored the grease in a plastic container, it looks okay though..... How to tell if it's petrolueum-based?
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you should be able to get information from its specifications printed on the container, or just look it up online.
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you should be able to get information from its specifications printed on the container, or just look it up online.
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lol... i got a bit from a car workshop, store it some transparent container... it's green... i remember that the guy say that grease can withstand high temperature, etc etc.

i applied on many plastics before, it doesn't look it corrodes the plastic , so i guess it's safe. smile.gif
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lol... i got a bit from a car workshop, store it some transparent container... it's green... i remember that the guy say that grease can withstand high temperature, etc etc.

i applied on many plastics before, it doesn't look it corrodes the plastic , so i guess it's safe. smile.gif
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haha ok then.

as long as it's plastic-safe then it's good, or else you will go through the whole process of replacing all lubed switches when shit happens.
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haha ok then.

as long as it's plastic-safe then it's good, or else you will go through the whole process of replacing all lubed switches when shit happens.
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Okay... it should be good for many years.


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Okay... it should be good for many years.
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mkb modding is basically a process of learning and experimenting to achieve better outcomes in terms of typing experience.

once you have enough of basics, it's up to you to plan for builds that you wanna have, or just stick to what you have, and make it closest to own expectations.

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Spent an afternoon modding and for once nothing went wrong lol.

First goal was to get the Navy on Lock duty.
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Curious thing I discovered is that the center "pin" of Kailh box navies don't go in very far.
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The Kailh is the switch that hasn't been soldered. And as you can see from the clean holes, my desoldering iron is working like magic once again. I think for some reason it doesn't like the KPrepublic PCBs? No problem desoldering my IKBC with either lead free solder or my generic 63/37 solder. Curiouser and curiouser.

Second goal was to undo my band aid mods. Some keys were sticking and slow to return.
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Interestingly not long ago, Taeha Types said in a Twitch stream that he no longer does this mod. Maybe his clients also had the same issues?

And while my stabs were out, I wanted to add some cloth tape on the ends of the wire. I thought I had cloth tape at home but it turns out I didn't. So I used PTFE tape instead. It's not "secured" in any way. I hope I don't regret it in a few weeks....
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And lastly, this is how I got around to removing my spacebar stab with the foam in place.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 1 2020, 06:22 PM)
Spent an afternoon modding and for once nothing went wrong lol.

First goal was to get the Navy on Lock duty.
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Curious thing I discovered is that the center "pin" of Kailh box navies don't go in very far.
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The Kailh is the switch that hasn't been soldered. And as you can see from the clean holes, my desoldering iron is working like magic once again. I think for some reason it doesn't like the KPrepublic PCBs? No problem desoldering my IKBC with either lead free solder or my generic  63/37 solder. Curiouser and curiouser.

Second goal was to undo my band aid mods. Some keys were sticking and slow to return.
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Interestingly not long ago, Taeha Types said in a Twitch stream that he no longer does this mod. Maybe his clients also had the same issues?

And while my stabs were out, I wanted to add some cloth tape on the ends of the wire. I thought I had cloth tape at home but it turns out I didn't. So I used PTFE tape instead. It's not "secured" in any way. I hope I don't regret it in a few weeks....
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And lastly, this is how I got around to removing my spacebar stab with the foam in place.
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about stabilizer band-aid mod, i use ptfe tape instead of lubed fabric band-aid, because i want a clean, not mushy, feel when i bottom out.

for wire tip band-aid mod, it's better to test the outcomes first. this is because if the tap is too thick it will cause mushiness. i am still experimenting with heat shrink mod. a shorter (5mm) tube will get rid of mushiness, but somehow ticking sound comes back. will adjust the location of shrinks on the tips to see if it helps.

glad to see more people are modifying their boards. it's really worth the efforts smile.gif

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about stabilizer band-aid mod, i use ptfe tape instead of lubed fabric band-aid, because i want a clean, not mushy, feel when i bottom out.

for wire tip band-aid mod, it's better to test the outcomes first. this is because if the tap is too thick it will cause mushiness. i am still experimenting with heat shrink mod. a shorter (5mm) tube will get rid of mushiness, but somehow ticking sound comes back. will adjust the location of shrinks on the tips to see if it helps.

glad to see more people are modifying their boards. it's really worth the efforts smile.gif
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how do you secure your PTfe tape on the board?
put on double sided tape?
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how do you secure your PTfe tape on the board?
put on double sided tape?
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the one i have was from taobao, with single-sided adhesive. its thickness is 0.25mm.

edit: the item link at taobao is invalid/no more now. keywords that i used are 加厚 特氟龙高温胶带 隔热耐高温胶布 封口机真空机配件 0.25厚 (note that not all are with single-sided adhesive)

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QUOTE(horns @ Aug 2 2020, 12:10 PM)
the one i have was from taobao, with single-sided adhesive. its thickness is 0.25mm.

edit: the item link at taobao is invalid/no more now. keywords that i used are 加厚 特氟龙高温胶带 隔热耐高温胶布 封口机真空机配件 0.25厚 (note that not all are with single-sided adhesive)
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just curious, what are you guys talking about? the stabilizers thingy?

My spacebar rattles a little if i tap on both ends.... the switch for the Spacebar is okay though.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Aug 2 2020, 12:17 PM)
just curious, what are you guys talking about? the stabilizers thingy?

My spacebar rattles a little if i tap on both ends.... the switch for the Spacebar is okay though.
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yes i use that ptfe tape to do band-aid mod for stabilizers.

stabilizer tuning is to ensure keys with stabilizers to feel like 1-u keys when typing. when you have tuned linear and tactile switches, the differences are obvious. (hence, inconsistency of typing experience)
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QUOTE(horns @ Aug 2 2020, 12:10 PM)
the one i have was from taobao, with single-sided adhesive. its thickness is 0.25mm.

edit: the item link at taobao is invalid/no more now. keywords that i used are 加厚 特氟龙高温胶带 隔热耐高温胶布 封口机真空机配件 0.25厚 (note that not all are with single-sided adhesive)
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Owh, in my head, i was thinking to use my leftover PTFE tape from piping works... Hehehe..

did you still put dielectric grease on the PTFE tape?


Later i will try to find in taobao.. smile.gif

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Later i will try to find in taobao.. smile.gif
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tbh you can use anything that works for you for this, as long as it provide outcomes that you want. i did use electrical tape previously. (mainly to get rid of mushy feel)

taobao is a good source for almost everything that i use in board tuning, including hex screws, nylon washers, rubber feet, eva foams, ptfe tapes, o-rings, heat shrinks, and others.

edit: no i didn't use lube on the tapes.


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QUOTE(horns @ Aug 2 2020, 01:38 PM)
tbh you can use anything that works for you for this, as long as it provide outcomes that you want. i did use electrical tape previously. (mainly to get rid of mushy feel)

taobao is a good source for almost everything that i use in board tuning, including hex screws, nylon washers, rubber feet, eva foams, ptfe tapes, o-rings, heat shrinks, and others.

edit: no i didn't use lube on the tapes.
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i use taobao using google translate rclxms.gif


actually i`m not sure what has happen to me, ever since i manage to buy keyboard stuff from taobao,
i feel like my interest in mechanical keyboard is growing biggrin.gif
last time i felt like this was back in 2013.
then busy working.

bought keycaps, switches, stablizers and many more from there since early this year.
even manage to get Maxkey SA keycaps base set for RM 230.

my latest work is reviving old CM storm quickfire stealth - bought in 2013
desolder old chery swistches and replace with gateron brown. ( lubed, filmed)
+ lubed costar stabilizer biggrin.gif

mechanical keyboard hobby indeed cost me a lot of money.
and right now i`m thinking of buying GMK set + KBDfans KBD8x mkii devil.gif




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QUOTE(taf89 @ Aug 2 2020, 02:00 PM)
i use taobao using google translate rclxms.gif

actually i`m not sure what has happen to me, ever since i manage to buy keyboard stuff from taobao,
i feel like my interest in mechanical keyboard is growing biggrin.gif
last time i felt like this was back in 2013.
then busy working.

bought keycaps, switches, stablizers  and many more from there since early this year.
even manage to get Maxkey SA keycaps base set for RM 230.

my latest work is reviving old CM storm quickfire stealth - bought in 2013
desolder old chery swistches and replace with gateron brown. ( lubed, filmed)
+ lubed costar stabilizer biggrin.gif

mechanical keyboard hobby indeed cost me a lot of money.
and right now i`m thinking of buying GMK set + KBDfans KBD8x mkii devil.gif
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being able to get stuff from taobao motivates you. it's a weird motivation lol

this is a a hobby. it's different from just getting a keyboard smile.gif




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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 1 2020, 06:22 PM)
.. my desoldering iron is working like magic once again. I think for some reason it doesn't like the KPrepublic PCBs? No problem desoldering my IKBC with either lead free solder or my generic  63/37 solder. Curiouser and curiouser.
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this part actually keep me thinking for a while. is it possible that the heat conductivity is a actual problem, because pads on kprepublic pcbs are made of less optimal materials?


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Got my first ever artisan keycap. KAT Atlantis Aweigh from Fraktal. B stock because of bubbles in the resin.
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Bubbles? In an ocean themed keycap? I call that a charming detail, not a flaw!

Now just waiting for KAT Atlantis to ship in October...
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 4 2020, 10:55 AM)
Got my first ever artisan keycap. KAT Atlantis Aweigh from Fraktal. B stock because of bubbles in the resin.
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Bubbles? In an ocean themed keycap? I call that a charming detail, not a flaw!

Now just waiting for KAT Atlantis to ship in October...
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yes it's actually ok to have that in this theme
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bought keycaps, switches, stablizers  and many more from there since early this year.
even manage to get Maxkey SA keycaps base set for RM 230.
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Lucky you. They're around RM300 now...
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this is my latest build, a 65-key 60%.

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to me, for 60%, 64-key is really good enough.
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niakulah I saw you bought a IKBC CD108 MX Brown , good in typing what are you modding ? Can recommend a any other brand or similar keyboard which have a same layout key as it ? For office use , mx brown with tactile , black color as basic need , do not need rgb and programmable keys since it's just for office typing.
horns Not so knowledgeable on keyboard.

How do we measure keywide and size of the keyboard ? As for the keys , a fullsize 104 keys is enough for daily use.

Current key board size not including the border from 'CTRL' key to last numberpad 'Enter' is 43cm width and 'CTRL' to 'Esc' key is 12cm.
Key cap height is 1cm.Key spacing between other key is 0.5cm.
Which MX brown tactile having this kind of wide ? i don't want to readjust and get use again the typing key wide with a new keyboard
Keyboard height including stand not over 4.5cm at Esc key and bottom the Ctrl key 1.5cm.

Also how do we measure the actuation force with tactile included ? Saw some ask to stack some coins , but which coins need to stack every key is different size and new rm0.10 cents size or older one ? since it's the only size around a single key size.How do you test it ?

When comes to budget , first is to find the same key layout slowly choose which is suitable budget.I know some have custom made keyboard but i just need for office typing use.


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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Aug 12 2020, 06:10 AM)
niakulah I saw you bought a  IKBC CD108 MX Brown , good in typing what are you modding ? Can recommend a any other brand or similar keyboard which have a same layout key as it ? For office use , mx brown with tactile , black color as basic need , do not need rgb and programmable keys since it's just for office typing.
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That keyboard suffered from death by modding. Lol

Currently on a IKBC F108. Decided I liked RGB after all. I can always switch it off if I want to. And since my keycaps are not shine through, the effect is subtle. Good enough for office use.

My current list of mods on my IKBC F108 with Cherry MX RGB Brown switches:
Spring swapped to generic 67g springs. Lubed with Krytox GPL105.
Lubed stem with Krytox GPL205G0.
Filmed with clear TX films.
Caps Lock, Num Lock and Scroll Lock have been changed to Kailh Box Navy switches.
Stab housings lubed with Krytox GPL205G0
Stab wires lubed and packed with Superlube where it clips into stab housing.
Tips of stab wires covered in plumbing PTFE tape.
Plumbing PTFE tape around stab housings to eliminate wobble when stabs are mounted on the plate.
Band aid mod on the PCB with superlube as per Taeha Types youtube tutorial has been removed due to keys sticking. Probably will redo with cloth tape and no lube when I get in new stabs.
EVA foam between PCB and plate.
EVA foam beneath PCB to fill up gaps in casing.
Spray painted top case.
Coiled the existing cable. Did a terrible job. A different cable mod in the works (waiting for crimping tool for the connector)
Also waiting for original Cherry plate mounted stabs otw.
Also waiting for KAT Atlantis keycaps group buy which are expected to start shipping in October.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Aug 12 2020, 06:10 AM)
How do we measure keywide and size of the keyboard ? As for the keys , a fullsize 104 keys is enough for daily use.

Current key board size not including the border from 'CTRL' key to last numberpad 'Enter' is 43cm width and 'CTRL' to 'Esc' key is 12cm.
Key cap height is 1cm.Key spacing between other key is 0.5cm.
Which MX brown tactile having this kind of wide ? i don't want to readjust and get use again the typing key wide with a new keyboard
Keyboard height including stand not over 4.5cm at Esc key and bottom the Ctrl key 1.5cm.

Also how do we measure the actuation force with tactile included ? Saw some ask to stack some coins , but which coins need to stack every key is different size and new  rm0.10 cents size or older one ? since it's the only size around a single key size.How do you test it ?

When comes to budget , first is to find the same key layout slowly choose which is suitable budget.I know some have custom made keyboard but i just need for office typing use.
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i'm not good at measuring keyboards in details. i mean, it's still a keyboard. basically the main things that we should care for is the comforts when we type on them (e.g., sound. feel, typing angles), with the right keys at the right places (e.g., layout).

not everything needs precision, unless you want to design your own builds from scratch, with everything matches your own preferences. if you intended to do that, then there are a lot of variables that you need to check out:

1. key caps, there are many profiles, e.g. cherry, oem, sa, dsa, xda, mda, osa, etc. they all have their own measurements.
2. cases, they have different thickness, and typing angles.
3. etc.

normally the unit for key caps is u (e.g. 1u, 2u, 2.75u); 1u is about 19mm. it's a standard based on caps from cherry. different profiles usually mean they have different thickness, and heights.

the better way to measure actuation force is to use scientific measurement tools. the coin stacking way is a way for estimation, with the assumption that each coin weights the same.

we chose customs because there are better layouts, parts, etc. that suit our preferences. in terms of layout alone, i rather have a board with all the keys being typed on, than those with keys that i never touch once. as for your requirements, you can just get a good mkb and be done with it. you can still modify it like what niakulah did to his, to have much better typing experience.
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what is holy panda closest to in terms of cherry mx?
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I am new to mechanical keyboard and planning to get one myself. I found one that I like (Leopold fc750r pd white) but there is no brown switch available for this model, I was wondering if red switch will be a lot different from brown for a newcomer like me? or it doesn't really matter. My usage is 50% office work 50% gaming.
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what is holy panda closest to in terms of cherry mx?
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It's a tactile switch, so cherry mx browns? Never owned it myself (well, not yet, getting the one from drop) for my build
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Never tried HPs, but theoretically, I'd say ergo clears. Then clears, then maybe browns.
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Hi,

I am new to mechanical keyboard and planning to get one myself. I found one that I like (Leopold fc750r pd white) but there is no brown switch available for this model, I was wondering if red switch will be a lot different from brown for a newcomer like me? or it doesn't really matter. My usage is 50% office work 50% gaming.
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technically, the question is for you to answer, not us. however, you should start somewhere, since you're new. hence i think it's ok for you to start with linear. leopold's red is not bad.

yes, i am a linear switch user hahaha

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QUOTE(shaggy1 @ Aug 13 2020, 11:35 AM)
Hi,

I am new to mechanical keyboard and planning to get one myself. I found one that I like (Leopold fc750r pd white) but there is no brown switch available for this model, I was wondering if red switch will be a lot different from brown for a newcomer like me? or it doesn't really matter. My usage is 50% office work 50% gaming.
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i am brown switch(cherry mx brown) and linear switch(gateron black and TTC gold pink) user.

My comment is both tactile and linear feel are different.

If you only plan to get one keyboard, better buy the switch tester to feel it before make the final purchase.
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my personal picks of housings for linear switches (switch top, bottom):

1. nylon housings - cherry mx;
2. pc housings - jwk's pc housings, including those durock, and custom offers; and
3. uhmwpe housings - c3 tangerine rev 2. (the one and only, for now)

i like them because they have the characteristics that i prefer, compared to other brands:

1. relatively less stem wobbles;
2. relatively less switch top wobbles after filmed;
3. each with their sound profiles (pc is similar to uhmwpe tbh).

all the above shall be tuned before use. no stock switch can beat its tuned version. always.

note that the above are based on my preferences for linear switches. it doesn't mean others are bad.

.. and about switch films, watch this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiecBEnHYPA

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QUOTE(joebukanaku @ Aug 13 2020, 05:08 PM)
It's a tactile switch, so cherry mx browns? Never owned it myself (well, not yet, getting the one from drop) for my build
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 13 2020, 05:44 PM)
Never tried HPs, but theoretically, I'd say ergo clears. Then clears, then maybe browns.
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ahh, if they're close to ergo clears.. then id be really interested
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Letting go my white ikbc C87 . if anyone is i terested can pm me. come with as in retail package (original pbt caps, key puller etc.)

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Aug 15 2020, 12:46 PM)
Letting go my white ikbc C87 . if anyone is i terested can pm me. come with as in retail package (original pbt caps, key puller etc.)

Mint condition as good as new.

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you should post it on mechmarket at fb as well.
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QUOTE(horns @ Aug 15 2020, 04:12 PM)
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you should post it on mechmarket at fb as well.
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Just wondering for the ptfe/fabric tape mod at the tips of stab wires, how thick/how many rounds should I go around the stab wire or is that different from stab to stab and I have to trial and error to get it right?
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Just wondering for the ptfe/fabric tape mod at the tips of stab wires, how thick/how many rounds should I go around the stab wire or is that different from stab to stab and I have to trial and error to get it right?
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not sure about the thickness, but the fabric tape that i use is the typical hansaplast that can be found everywhere. (use the sides, not the center part) you just cover a layer of it on the top part of wire tip.
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Shortie cable mod. Long enough to comfortably plug in to a laptop. At the office I can plug in to the USB port on my monitor. Who needs aviators/lemos?
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I'm still new into mkb world.
Any opinion on Gateron brown vs Outemu brown switches?
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I'm still new into mkb world.
Any opinion on Gateron brown vs Outemu brown switches?
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I prefer Gaterons anyday over Outemu browns.

Outemu spring force is too strong, so lots of the time the keys bounce back too fast, making it "stick" to your fingers when u lift it after pushing the keys down, quite unpleasant.

Gateron and Cherry Browns on the other hand do not have this problem, the lightness of gaterons also fit my preference more.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 16 2020, 09:37 PM)
Shortie cable mod. Long enough to comfortably plug in to a laptop. At the office I can plug in to the USB port on my monitor. Who needs aviators/lemos?
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hahaha it's better than throwing them all away

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i dont understand with the mechanical key switches; cherry, gateron etc

watched the youtube once and its more related to the clicking sound difference. any other advantages with mechanical key switches apart from sound alone?
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Aliexpress strikes again! Finally got my Outemu Skies and no slot clear PC tops I ordered in May!
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This had so much potential in my head. Big tactile bump. Nylon bottom housing for the thock. SMD RGB cutout matched with a clear top for light diffusion. And you could lube and put on virgin tops that would theoretically be tight and wouldn't need filming.

Alas the reality was underwhelming. The tactile bump really is huge and feels very much like Zealios. But oh so loose! And scratchy! How the heck did they achieve that? I thought that was one of the claims of fame of Gaterons? Mildly looser tolerances to make them less scratchy relative to Cherry? Haven't tried lubing yet. Can't be bothered to clean up after. Maybe this weekend.

And the plop sound it makes when returning is a bit annoying.

Also read that for maximum thock, pairing them with the extra long Kailh Pro stems is a good idea. I did try it with a Kailh Pro Purple stem. Slightly less loose, a lot less tactile. Bottom out sound has good potential. Plop return sound still there though.
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QUOTE(klch87 @ Aug 17 2020, 09:30 PM)
i dont understand with the mechanical key switches; cherry, gateron etc

watched the youtube once and its more related to the clicking sound difference. any other advantages with mechanical key switches apart from sound alone?
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first-person experience should help, especially with a tuned build. commercial boards usually just tell a small part of story, except for some good ones.

a good (or bad) typing experience is from the result of the combination of switches and other equally important parts in a mechanical keyboard.

QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 17 2020, 10:43 PM)
Aliexpress strikes again! Finally got my Outemu Skies and no slot clear PC tops I ordered in May!
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This had so much potential in my head. Big tactile bump. Nylon bottom housing for the thock. SMD RGB cutout matched with a clear top for light diffusion. And you could lube and put on virgin tops that would theoretically be tight and wouldn't need filming.

Alas the reality was underwhelming. The tactile bump really is huge and feels very much like Zealios. But oh so loose! And scratchy! How the heck did they achieve that? I thought that was one of the claims of fame of Gaterons? Mildly looser tolerances to make them less scratchy relative to Cherry? Haven't tried lubing yet. Can't be bothered to clean up after. Maybe this weekend.

And the plop sound it makes when returning is a bit annoying.

Also read that for maximum thock, pairing them with the extra long Kailh Pro stems is a good idea. I did try it with a Kailh Pro Purple stem. Slightly less loose, a lot less tactile. Bottom out sound has good potential. Plop return sound still there though.
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wow they really took a while.

i'm not familiar with tactile switches. there are tactile switch users in mymkb that can share better insights about parts.
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anyone bought the leopold fc750r? does it have a dampening mat?
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QUOTE(horns @ Aug 18 2020, 12:44 AM)
first-person experience should help, especially with a tuned build. commercial boards usually just tell a small part of story, except for some good ones.

a good (or bad) typing experience is from the result of the combination of switches and other equally important parts in a mechanical keyboard.
wow they really took a while.

i'm not familiar with tactile switches. there are tactile switch users in mymkb that can share better insights about parts.
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Meaning to say, they are for "feel good typing" experience?
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Meaning to say, they are for "feel good typing" experience?
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yes for one reason in many other reason of having a mkb.

as for me, i have a mkb bcoz how it feels better than a membrane.
and also it "reacts" better in a sense u dont have to bottom out every keystroke to register a keystroke. this reason helps u both in typing and gaming.
the beauty of mkb is u can fine tune the feels of typing the way u like it. the more u fine tune it, the better it gets.


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QUOTE(klch87 @ Aug 18 2020, 10:51 AM)
Meaning to say, they are for "feel good typing" experience?
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Maybe this video will give you some insight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr3nYR15wxU&t=0s

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QUOTE(klch87 @ Aug 18 2020, 10:51 AM)
Meaning to say, they are for "feel good typing" experience?
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to me, yes, to the point that they make me like typing on them more.

the best part of mkb modding is customization, from a vast selection of parts and modifications.

that's one of the main reasons i build custom keyboards based on different parts and keyboard constructions. they all have different feels and sound, all made based on my own preferences.

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Aug 18 2020, 11:29 AM)
yes for one reason in many other reason of having a mkb.

as for me, i have a mkb bcoz how it feels better than a membrane.
and also it "reacts" better in a sense u dont have to bottom out every keystroke to register a keystroke. this reason helps u both in typing and gaming.
the beauty of mkb is u can fine tune the feels of typing the way u like it. the more u fine tune it, the better it gets.
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Maybe this video will give you some insight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr3nYR15wxU&t=0s
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to me, yes, to the point that they make me like typing on them more.

the best part of mkb modding is customization, from a vast selection of parts and modifications.

that's one of the main reasons i build custom keyboards based on different parts and keyboard constructions. they all have different feels and sound, all made based on my own preferences.
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thanks all.
i have been using razer blackwidow for 4 years. switched over from cynosa because i wanna get the feel good using mkb.

however, i only got to know about different mechanical switch types last year when tecware keyboard got popular. apparently the mechanical keys can be customized too.

i didnt really explore them in details but i have interest in them.

will look into the youtube video for inspiration.
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QUOTE(saishu @ Aug 18 2020, 04:27 AM)
anyone bought the leopold fc750r? does it have a dampening mat?
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dampening mat? they have both (a small piece of foam between plate and pcb, and a layer of foam under pcb; there should be a label stating that on the keyboard box)

QUOTE(klch87 @ Aug 18 2020, 04:33 PM)
thanks all.
i have been using razer blackwidow for 4 years. switched over from cynosa because i wanna get the feel good using mkb.

however, i only got to know about different mechanical switch types last year when tecware keyboard got popular. apparently the mechanical keys can be customized too.

i didnt really explore them in details but i have interest in them.

will look into the youtube video for inspiration.
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wow.

it's fine, because a lot of people do not know mkbs can be made much better also.

yes, take your time to explore. most of them need first-hand experience. (previously i don't like clear housings, and i thought jwk housings were similar to gat ink's. however after testing out both, i like jwk's more)
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dampening mat? they have both (a small piece of foam between plate and pcb, and a layer of foam under pcb; there should be a label stating that on the keyboard box)
wow.

it's fine, because a lot of people do not know mkbs can be made much better also.

yes, take your time to explore. most of them need first-hand experience. (previously i don't like clear housings, and i thought jwk housings were similar to gat ink's. however after testing out both, i like jwk's more)
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ooo got it

thinking of getting a fc750r
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Noob question, but where's the best place to buy keycaps for cheap? Looking for ones that has this sort of font

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Earlier it was just numpad area...

now it spread to more switches, shakehead.gif then did more desoldering on alphabets switches and symbol switches and lubed them with grease... now it should be good for a long time. rclxms.gif


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Hi sifus, I looking for 87 keys keyboard like AJAZZ AK33 which have standalone F1~F12 button but compact like 71keys keyboard.

The reason I want to skip AK33 if that I read the keycap size is not standard...

Can recommend any other brand/model similar to such design?
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Aug 23 2020, 10:04 AM)
Hi sifus, I looking for 87 keys keyboard like AJAZZ AK33 which have standalone F1~F12 button but compact like 71keys keyboard.

The reason I want to skip AK33 if that I read the keycap size is not standard...

Can recommend any other brand/model similar to such design?
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The layout/form factor you are looking at is called 75%. It really uses some non standard keycaps, specifically a 1.75U Right Shift and sometimes 3x 1U (some layouts use 2x 1.5U so that they can use standard keycaps but you are limited to only 2) keys to the right of spacebar.....but the AJAZZ AK33 has even weirder keycaps than a "normal" 75%.

75% kits are very popular with the community these days and there are lots of options if you want to build one. But if you want to buy one prebuilt and cheapish (based on the fact you are looking at AJAZZ), this might work for you:

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/keycool-...2veVad&search=1
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 23 2020, 11:41 AM)
The layout/form factor you are looking at is called 75%. It really uses some non standard keycaps, specifically a 1.75U Right Shift and sometimes 3x 1U (some layouts use 2x 1.5U so that they can use standard keycaps but you are limited to only 2) keys to the right of spacebar.....but the AJAZZ AK33 has even weirder keycaps than a "normal" 75%.

75% kits are very popular with the community these days and there are lots of options if you want to build one. But if you want to buy one prebuilt and cheapish (based on the fact you are looking at AJAZZ), this might work for you:

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/keycool-...2veVad&search=1
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Thanks for the lengthy explanation. smile.gif

I found keychron k2 seems to be interesting to me. But will take note on the keycap size when I getting one. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi everyone, I have a budget of about RM200 and I am looking to get a mechanical that can swap between wired/wireless mode like the Anne Pro 2.

Actually considered the Anne Pro 2 but it is out of my budget and this is rather urgent for me.

Any suggestions?
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QUOTE(zhishuen00 @ Aug 24 2020, 02:15 AM)
Hi everyone, I have a budget of about RM200 and I am looking to get a mechanical that can swap between wired/wireless mode like the Anne Pro 2.

Actually considered the Anne Pro 2 but it is out of my budget and this is rather urgent for me.

Any suggestions?
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tecware phantom?
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My rojak ID80 build with mixture of different Kailh switches namely Copper, Silver, Box Burn Orange and Box Dark Yellow. I should've picked up some Box Pale Blue.
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This is my first custom mech, I only lube the stabs, too lazy to even think of lubing the switches.

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Part of the reason of getting a custom is because of these beautiful key caps, I really love those classic looking fonts. They are really hard to getting use to coming from OEM profile.

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QUOTE(zhishuen00 @ Aug 24 2020, 02:15 AM)
Hi everyone, I have a budget of about RM200 and I am looking to get a mechanical that can swap between wired/wireless mode like the Anne Pro 2.

Actually considered the Anne Pro 2 but it is out of my budget and this is rather urgent for me.

Any suggestions?
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RK61 and RK71... could fit your requirement... hmm.gif
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Need recommendation on stabs.
Currently have cherry pcb screw ins on a 64.
Thinking of building a 84 quiet keyboard with Sakurios.
Current cherry stabs go down nice and quietly but when it tops out on the upstroke there's a "thocc" on the spacebar which I am trying to avoid if not too expensive.
Durgod, everglide or any other reco?
What does the gold plated stab wire do?

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QUOTE(krayden @ Aug 29 2020, 04:33 PM)
Need recommendation on stabs.
Currently have cherry pcb screw ins on a 64.
Thinking of building a 84 quiet keyboard with Sakurios.
Current cherry stabs go down nice and quietly but when it tops out on the upstroke there's a "thocc" on the spacebar which I am trying to avoid if not too expensive.
Durgod, everglide or any other reco?
What does the gold plated stab wire do?
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Would say Everglide, but they have an issue with wires popping out sometimes. You just gotta match the wires to the housings to see which side fits better. I would say it's a manufacturing tolerance issue.

As for the gold plated wires? Well, it's like wearing a flashy underwear where it can't be see when you put on pants. laugh.gif They don't really do much, perhaps, a little better in corrosion resistance since they are plated, but yeah, honestly, no difference. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Aug 29 2020, 06:20 PM)
Would say Everglide, but they have an issue with wires popping out sometimes. You just gotta match the wires to the housings to see which side fits better. I would say it's a manufacturing tolerance issue.

As for the gold plated wires? Well, it's like wearing a flashy underwear where it can't be see when you put on pants. laugh.gif They don't really do much, perhaps, a little better in corrosion resistance since they are plated, but yeah, honestly, no difference. icon_idea.gif
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(Might get you to solder and lube for me in the future)
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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Aug 26 2020, 02:45 AM)
My rojak ID80 build with mixture of different Kailh switches namely Copper, Silver, Box Burn Orange and Box Dark Yellow. I should've picked up some Box Pale Blue.
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This is my first custom mech, I only lube the stabs, too lazy to even think of lubing the switches.

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Part of the reason of getting a custom is because of these beautiful key caps, I really love those classic looking fonts. They are really hard to getting use to coming from OEM profile.
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I just noticed that those 2 are the same keyboard hahaha

Nice keyboard, any aerial pictures? hehe
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QUOTE(saishu @ Aug 29 2020, 09:32 PM)
I just noticed that those 2 are the same keyboard hahaha

Nice keyboard, any aerial pictures? hehe
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QUOTE(krayden @ Aug 29 2020, 07:27 PM)
Thanks this helps.
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Glad it helps. Although, the explaination was somewhat, crude. laugh.gif

Hope to hear from you soon then.
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Anyone local msia got do customized keycaps as per request what i kind i want?

Like this cool resin one... uhhh my eyes

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QUOTE(mlyk1234 @ Aug 31 2020, 07:21 PM)
Anyone local msia got do customized keycaps as per request what i kind i want?

Like this cool resin one... uhhh my eyes

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can try check this one, only one i know of
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Are ducky brand good? planning to get one.. or any other recommendation for TKL mechanical?
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Hey guys, anyone here using Machenike K7 Mechanical Keyboard?
Can review if you are using that keyboard.


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Non rgb alternatives Leopold and Filco. Haven't touch b4 so can't comment. But YT reviews seem ok.
You can buy a custom assembled from AliExpress or Taobao also. Cheap cheap rm600-800.
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i will stick to this epbt double-shot abs. i prefer the sound and feel of this combo, compared to jtk coca-cola.

all standoffs on this tray-mount case are covered with 1mm eva foam, to reduce the hard spot effect. the bottom case is stuffed with 2 layers of typical anti-slip mat obtained from mr.diy.


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QUOTE(PalakOtakHang @ Sep 1 2020, 01:02 AM)
are artisans worth getting? can they be resold later for the same price as the raffle price?
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Get them only if you like the design, really doubt you can resell for the same price. Not in MY market at least.
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QUOTE(PalakOtakHang @ Jul 13 2020, 01:06 AM)
i posted here time to time with another account. Now change account because privacy invaded matter  laugh.gif

anyway i just built this keyboard
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gateron brown with springs changed to 55g, switch film added, springs lubed with 104, stabs band aid+clip, 4mm eva foam between pcb/backplate and everything else lubed with 205.

A lot of building processes which I thought was easy, turned up to be not.  tongue.gif I made tons of mistakes and took very long time messing around with the keyboard  biggrin.gif . Every thing is quite fun for me except the lubing part.  ranting.gif

The major mistakes i did were
- soldering quite a number of switches without the switches fully touching the PCB. Luckily i realized something was wrong before i proceeded to solder more switches. I learnt that it is very difficult to push the switches 'into' the pcb. My fingers are hurt now because of it.  biggrin.gif

-cutting the foam to put between plate and pcb. I ended up giving up and put nothing in between the plate and pcb. Have to be very precise in cutting the foam to leave enough space for each switch and stabilizers, but I failed miserably. All the shapes i drew by aligning the plate to the foam were all incorrect due to the stretchy nature of the eva foam and also not drawing exactly at the edges using pen. I wasted most of my time here.  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif Here is the showcase of my masterpiece. 

I feel that Gat browns lubed are indeed overly light for me as oppose to be using MX Blues which I think is heavy. Might have to change all the switches to heavier ones in the future bangwall.gif  shakehead.gif

I had bought some 3mm LED bulbs, but havent soldered them yet. The led holes are at the lower part of the switches. I tested the leds through the holes with a lithium bat, but the effect is like very disappointing. All the letters/symbols are floating towards upper part of a key cap. I think last time someone asked the same question, but now how ah? I didn't know because I see the mx switches in razer mkb are all upside down one. XD

Also, the taihao keycaps im using dont have R0 1U Ctrl, FN, Alt and numpad 0 & R4 Delete, End and Page Down. doh.gif I wasn't thinking so thoroughly before this. I think most of the keycaps set doesnt have these, am i right? I read some where people saying have to buy the ortholinear keycap set of a GB/preorder lol. Can any1 give me advice regarding this?
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How are you liking this board so far? Which set did you buy btw?

If my grail fullsize board doesn't materialize in a group buy in the next few months, I might consider the Melody 96.

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 19 2020, 01:47 PM)
Cherry plate mount stabs just arrived.
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Less than 3 weeks to get to me from US. Not bad.
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Just an update. I installed these over the weekend.

Firstly, Cherry stabs are tight in the plate! Zero wobble. No need for any tape.

I had trouble getting the sound nice with what I usually do whichi is just lube, clipping, and bandaid mod (I used cloth tape this time btw, not to be confused with fabric bandage tape). So I ended up trying this mod:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmOSSqpHAws

I also used cloth tape with this mod. I cut mine to be about 2mm x 11mm. Silenced the wire very nicely. There's a bit of extra resistance to it, which I don't mind since I tend to slam my mod keys down anyway.

Very happy now with my keyboard as a whole. Love the sound and feel of all the keys except the numpad plus....that is just the odd shape I think. I f I put other 1x2U keys in there, it doesn't sound as bad. Might bring my keyboard home next weekend to see if I can do a foam mod inside the key to dampen the sound.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 7 2020, 12:29 PM)
How are you liking this board so far? Which set did you buy btw?

If my grail fullsize board doesn't materialize in a group buy in the next few months, I might consider the Melody 96.
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Given that I was using Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2013 with MX blues, of course it is better, but dont take my word for it as I dont have other boards to compare with. I want to change the switches and add foam in between plate and pcb. Also relubing springs because bag lubing is inconsistent, some keys got the pik pik sound. ranting.gif I bought brass plate + weight, went full ham.

What is your grail full size board?
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QUOTE(PalakOtakHang @ Sep 7 2020, 06:31 PM)
Given that I was using Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2013 with MX blues, of course it is better, but dont take my word for it as I dont have other boards to compare with. I want to change the switches and add foam in between plate and pcb. Also relubing springs because bag lubing is inconsistent, some keys got the pik pik sound.  ranting.gif   I bought brass plate + weight, went full ham.

What is your grail full size board?
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Yes the foam is an awesome mod. After experiencing it, I wouldn't want to build a keyboard without it.

Interesting, I don't have any issues with my current board which is has bag lubed springs. Of course, I didn't have any pinging in the first place.

Any full aluminum full size with USB C and programmable PCB would be acceptable to me at this point....maybe if they re-ran TX108SE. Or if HEX.6C ran a non-southpaw version. Or F1oodgate. Whatever, just gimme my dam fullsize. Lol.

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guys anyone here is using Steelseries APEX pro? worth buying for a keyboard lover?

The price tag is the craziest so far
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QUOTE(klch87 @ Sep 8 2020, 04:32 PM)
guys anyone here is using Steelseries APEX pro? worth buying for a keyboard lover?

The price tag is the craziest so far
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mkb users that have sufficient know-how will not go for commercial boards anymore. it's really easier for them to get parts that they want, tune, and build one themselves.

with the right basic tools, building customs is actually a relatively painless experience.

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QUOTE(klch87 @ Sep 8 2020, 04:32 PM)
guys anyone here is using Steelseries APEX pro? worth buying for a keyboard lover?

The price tag is the craziest so far
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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 8 2020, 10:51 PM)
mkb users that have sufficient know-how will not go for commercial boards anymore. it's really easier for them to get parts that they want, tune, and build one themselves.

with the right basic tools, building customs is actually a relatively painless experience.
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Agreed with horns, except for the fact that you'd be hard pressed to find full size customs.

I'm using an IKBC F108 since it is relatively cheaper, but if I'm looking to spend that kind of money on a prebuilt(I'm not), I would go for the full aluminium IKBC MF108 v3 instead of the Steelseries which has a plastic bottom case.

Edit: Oh and if you think Steelseries prices are crazy, check out high end custom kits like from Keycult.
https://keycult.com/collections/june-2020-p...-2-tkl-preorder

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Hi anyone know who does mechanical keyboard repair?
Mainly to remove and solder few switches. Possible at KL region got any recommendation?
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Hi anyone know who does mechanical keyboard repair?
Mainly to remove and solder few switches. Possible at KL region got any recommendation?
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buy a soldering kit, and switches ? (they are pretty cheap , and you save a lot of money and hassle sending the keyboard to the Repairman , and then wait for repair usually 2 - 3 days (i think) , then another 1 - 2 days for courier to deliver it back to you? or COD but need to be at weekend, or after the Repairman finished his day job...?

I at first also tried looking for people to help remove and replace switches, the charges are fine, but you can never know which switch later start to act up after got the initially switches you found are double chattering. at first it was only 5 switches, then later it increased to other area (alphabets) and just yesterday (spacebar). Before was only the numpad area, only numbers, then later the *, - , + , and ENTER, including NUM LOCK, then /. it kept increasing, so i bought the switches from Shopee, bought the soldering kit too, get some scrap board , practice on desolder and solder, and when i am cofident, i open up my keyboard , Logitech G613, and desolder the switches and re-solder the new switches.

Save up the workmanship cost, they charge per switch about RM9 if you provide the switch, and RM15 if you didn't provide the switch, mine was for ROMER-G.

''Typically for Cherry type switches it's RM10/switch (parts and labour) but I do have a minimum charge of RM25 coz it takes roughly an hour to open up the keyboards and put them back together after assembly. So typically it's RM25 for 1-2 switches, and RM30 for 3 switches etc'' , said by GRexer (Puchong)

as for KL, i think will be around that price range too...

what keyboard btw?

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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Sep 9 2020, 08:24 PM)
buy a soldering kit, and switches ? (they are pretty cheap , and you save a lot of money and hassle sending the keyboard to the Repairman , and then wait for repair usually 2 - 3 days (i think) , then another 1 - 2 days for courier to deliver it back to you? or COD but need to be at weekend, or after the Repairman finished his day job...?

I at first also tried looking for people to help remove and replace switches, the charges are fine, but you can never know which switch later start to act up after got the initially switches you found are double chattering. at first it was only 5 switches, then later it increased to other area (alphabets) and just yesterday (spacebar). Before was only the numpad area, only numbers, then later the *, - , + , and ENTER, including NUM LOCK, then /. it kept increasing, so i bought the switches from Shopee, bought the soldering kit too, get some scrap board , practice on desolder and solder, and when i am cofident, i open up my keyboard , Logitech G613, and desolder the switches and re-solder the new switches.

Save up the workmanship cost, they charge per switch about RM9 if you provide the switch, and RM15 if you didn't provide the switch, mine was for ROMER-G.

''Typically for Cherry type switches it's RM10/switch (parts and labour) but I do have a minimum charge of RM25 coz it takes roughly an hour to open up the keyboards and put them back together after assembly. So typically it's RM25 for 1-2 switches, and RM30 for 3 switches etc'' , said 60 11-1538 9868 (Puchong)

as for KL, i think will be around that price range too...

what keyboard btw?
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I have the soldering kit actually and was attempting to change the switch out of my roccat previously. Somehow the solder just wont melt even changing to new solder pen tip and bought the suction pen as well ._."
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I have the soldering kit actually and was attempting to change the switch out of my roccat previously. Somehow the solder just wont melt even changing to new solder pen tip  and bought the suction pen as well ._."
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I see... it need higher temp to melt the solder i think?


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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Sep 9 2020, 09:13 PM)
I have the soldering kit actually and was attempting to change the switch out of my roccat previously. Somehow the solder just wont melt even changing to new solder pen tip  and bought the suction pen as well ._."
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Factory made boards use lead free solder for environmental reasons. They have a higher melting point.

Adding some leaded solder to the joint can help.
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I have a cooler master white led brown switch keyboard. One of the cherry mx switch is giving me problem. Sometimes it doesn't register when pressed or it will appear multiple times. Any advise sifus?

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Got my Keychron K8 with Tai Hao PBT keycaps and Novelkeys Cream switches.

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Got my Keychron K8 with Tai Hao PBT keycaps and Novelkeys Cream switches.

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Nice! Did you break them in or used them just like that? How do they feel?
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Nice! Did you break them in or used them just like that? How do they feel?
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Nah I didn't break them in, I just made sure I lubed them properly and it feels and sound great. Really smooth. It's also my first custom keyboard. Was originally going to put Invyr Pandas on them but after reading about the review on the final product, I cancelled my pre-order I made since June at the last minute. I'm totally fine with linear or tactile switches really.
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QUOTE(TenSou @ Sep 13 2020, 10:36 AM)
Nah I didn't break them in, I just made sure I lubed them properly and it feels and sound great. Really smooth. It's also my first custom keyboard. Was originally going to put Invyr Pandas on them but after reading about the review on the final product, I cancelled my pre-order I made since June at the last minute. I'm totally fine with linear or tactile switches really.
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Oh OK. Many NK cream posts I read say it is best to break them in for a while, then only lube. Not everyone agrees though.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 13 2020, 10:58 AM)
Oh OK. Many NK cream posts I read say it is best to break them in for a while, then only lube. Not everyone agrees though.
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Yeah I read it's a subjective thing which is why I didn't bother breaking them in. Just takes too much work and time.
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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 8 2020, 10:51 PM)
mkb users that have sufficient know-how will not go for commercial boards anymore. it's really easier for them to get parts that they want, tune, and build one themselves.

with the right basic tools, building customs is actually a relatively painless experience.
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But i just want to have a MKB out of the box, instead of sourcing all the different parts and fixing them altogether (building custom can be a painless experience but time is gold). What can i do? Which brand is better?
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Sep 14 2020, 08:55 AM)
But i just want to have a MKB out of the box, instead of sourcing all the different parts and fixing them altogether (building custom can be a painless experience but time is gold). What can i do? Which brand is better?
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in that case, get those from leopold, varmilo, or filco. these are top-class commercial boards, in terms of typing experience. they are built nicely from inside out. remember to look into their respective features first before purchase.

time is gold alright, but time spent to fine tune something that you will use for a long time, with all the right parts, is a very practical investment imo. alternatively, you can also subscribe to experienced builder services. quovadis123 and GRexer both have good, no-nonsense experience and skills.


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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 14 2020, 09:47 AM)
in that case, get those from leopold, varmilo, or filco. these are top-class commercial boards, in terms of typing experience. they are built nicely from inside out. remember to look into their respective features first before purchase.

time is gold alright, but time spent to fine tune something that you will use for a long time, with all the right parts, is a very practical investment imo. alternatively, you can also subscribe to experienced builder services. quovadis123 and GRexer both have good, no-nonsense experience and skills.
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Practical investment doesn't mean that you have to DIY it lah. Anyway, people who DIY their own stuff usually have the passion and they make it as a long time hobby. For me, I don't want to buy plenty of tools only to use them once, cause i know i don't have the passion nor patience for it. So buy one MKB out of the box it is! biggrin.gif Thanks for the recommendations! Gonna check it out!
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Sep 14 2020, 10:15 AM)
Practical investment doesn't mean that you have to DIY it lah. Anyway, people who DIY their own stuff usually have the passion and they make it as a long time hobby. For me, I don't want to buy plenty of tools only to use them once, cause i know i don't have the passion nor patience for it. So buy one MKB out of the box it is! biggrin.gif Thanks for the recommendations! Gonna check it out!
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sweet smile.gif

well, for a custom build, you don't need to diy it, or get tools to use them only once. builders that i suggested above can help you with that. they have all the right skills and tools for the job.



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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Sep 14 2020, 10:15 AM)
Practical investment doesn't mean that you have to DIY it lah. Anyway, people who DIY their own stuff usually have the passion and they make it as a long time hobby. For me, I don't want to buy plenty of tools only to use them once, cause i know i don't have the passion nor patience for it. So buy one MKB out of the box it is! biggrin.gif Thanks for the recommendations! Gonna check it out!
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If you never encounter an enthusiast's custom tuned keyboard, you could buy anything other than "budget" brands and be perfectly happy with it. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 14 2020, 12:22 PM)
If you never encounter an enthusiast's custom tuned keyboard, you could buy anything other than "budget" brands and be perfectly happy with it. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
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hence a meetup is good for this occasion.
thou im still a pleb in this hobby, im lucky enough to join a meetup in 2018(iinm) held in pj. there was i sucked into this hobby badddd. tried typing on a (i dont remember what board was it(i think it was a KBD75 v1?)) and the feels mannn.
well that was the time i do office job so spent most of my day typing and to have that hhhnnngghhh feels when typing is just hhnngghhh.

so few hundreds and ah longs later, im still a pleb but enjoying keyboards more.
still cant explain to ppl why a keyboard cost hundreds.

but at the end of the day, depends on ppl wanna join meetup o not. whistling.gif

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this is leopold's SP-Star grey linear, 67g. (prepackaged 110 units in plastic jars) the switch is fairly new, with some good characteristics, including tightly fit housing, and relatively less stem wobbles. it can be a good replacement for cherry mx.

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for this round, i will swap the stock springs with 63.5g linear-rated ones from everglide, and use kelowna switch films instead of TX 0.150mm switch films.

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sweet smile.gif

well, for a custom build, you don't need to diy it, or get tools to use them only once. builders that i suggested above can help you with that. they have all the right skills and tools for the job.
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prices also must be expensive.

QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 14 2020, 12:22 PM)
If you never encounter an enthusiast's custom tuned keyboard, you could buy anything other than "budget" brands and be perfectly happy with it. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
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Do you actually use your keyboard at work or what? I spent 9 ~ 10 hours at work and only use keyboard mostly also for some minor gaming at night. customized seems very far fetched.
But i have been using logitech g413, im ok with it. Just curious about other mechanical mechanic keyboards.

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Sep 14 2020, 01:40 PM)
prices also must be expensive.
Do you actually use your keyboard at work or what? I spent 9 ~ 10 hours at work and only use keyboard mostly also for some minor gaming at night. customized seems very far fetched.
But i have been using logitech g413, im ok with it. Just curious about other mechanical mechanic keyboards.
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Yes actually. My tuned MKB is at my desk in the office most of the time. I bring it home on the weekend if I have some modification in mind. Haven't had a gaming PC at home for more than 7 years now.
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Yes actually. My tuned MKB is at my desk in the office most of the time. I bring it home on the weekend if I have some modification in mind. Haven't had a gaming PC at home for more than 7 years now.
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oh no wonder.
Because i checked Shopee, the brands that was named just now - Leopold and etc, you need at least RM500 to even get one. That's actually a lot of money for something you don't use much unless you are enthusiast.

I would think that those people who work in fields that require so much typing would enjoy it a lot.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Sep 14 2020, 01:40 PM)
prices also must be expensive.

Do you actually use your keyboard at work or what? I spent 9 ~ 10 hours at work and only use keyboard mostly also for some minor gaming at night. customized seems very far fetched.
But i have been using logitech g413, im ok with it. Just curious about other mechanical mechanic keyboards.
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clearly we are discussing the same thing, but with different contexts. mkb modding is our hobby, while you're looking for prebuilts. that's why we have different views, use cases, and conclusions.

you asked for suggestions based on my points of view. my points of view are based on long-term typing experience on different prebuilts and custom builds. i suggested the above because i have them, among other brands, and imo they are relatively closer to entry-level custom builds, but much cheaper. for instance, a leopold with mechanical switches has solid build qualities; comes with thick pbt cherry profile double-shot key caps (1.5mm thick), detachable cable, tuned stabilizers, and foamed at the right locations. you simply cannot find something like what leopold can offer in most brands, at that price.

however, it's really fine to get whatever you want. as long as you like it, it's all good smile.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 14 2020, 04:17 PM)
clearly we are discussing the same thing, but with different contexts. mkb modding is our hobby, while you're looking for prebuilts. that's why we have different views, use cases, and conclusions.

you asked for suggestions based on my points of view. my points of view are based on long-term typing experience on different prebuilts and custom builds. i suggested the above because i have them, among other brands, and imo they are relatively closer to entry-level custom builds, but much cheaper. for instance, a leopold with mechanical switches has solid build qualities; comes with thick pbt cherry profile double-shot key caps (1.5mm thick), detachable cable, tuned stabilizers, and foamed at the right locations. you simply cannot find something like what leopold can offer in most brands, at that price.

however, it's really fine to get whatever you want. as long as you like it, it's all good smile.gif
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I am looking at Leopold right now in Shopee at PcByte. Looks good.
Some of the colours are very enticing but impractical cause I will go crazy if it turns dirty. xD
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Sep 14 2020, 02:37 PM)
oh no wonder.
Because i checked Shopee, the brands that was named just now - Leopold and etc, you need at least RM500 to even get one. That's actually a lot of money for something you don't use much unless you are enthusiast.

I would think that those people who work in fields that require so much typing would enjoy it a lot.
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Depends on your priorities. I don't mind dropping RM1k+ each on multiple pairs of leather shoes for the office, because I know I will use each pair every single week. But ask me to spend RM300+ on just a single pair of casual shoes for the weekend and I will usually balk.

But I know some people who will use the same pair of Bata 5 days a week and Yeezys 2 days on the weekend. unsure.gif rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Sep 14 2020, 04:58 PM)
I am looking at Leopold right now in Shopee at PcByte. Looks good.
Some of the colours are very enticing but impractical cause I will go crazy if it turns dirty. xD
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yeah, it's still cheaper to get leopold at shopee or local shops, compared to else where.

the key caps are thick double-shot. they are very durable for normal typing use case, and their legends will never fade away. you can always clean them up with soap and water from time to time. that's how we maintain our sets to always look new smile.gif

edit: if you're interested in learning more about tuning a leopold, i can tell you this: it can still be tuned to get to its full potentials. for now, just use it as is first smile.gif


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yeah, it's still cheaper to get leopold at shopee or local shops, compared to else where.

the key caps are thick double-shot. they are very durable for normal typing use case, and their legends will never fade away. you can always clean them up with soap and water from time to time. that's how we maintain our sets to always look new smile.gif

edit: if you're interested in learning more about tuning a leopold, i can tell you this: it can still be tuned to get to its full potentials. for now, just use it as is first smile.gif
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being able to change the key caps seems very enticing indeed.
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You can customise your keycaps for most mechanical keyboards (except low profile or some weird shit switches like Romer-G or ALPS or Kailh Choc), heck, even some mecha-membrane uses Cherry style keycaps and allows keycap changing/customisation too.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Sep 15 2020, 09:22 AM)
being able to change the key caps seems very enticing indeed.
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ok haha

key caps is a part of mkb that affects typing sound and feel. there are different key caps out there, which have different profiles, made with different materials, thickness, printing technologies, number of supported keys, looks, colorways, and price tags.

it's really up to you to explore your options haha

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hello, i been way too lost for mkb.. im using ducky shine 3 mx brown since 2013.. if i remember correctly... more and more backlid led giving problem... always light even when i off them...

i checked latest model ducky shine.. way out of my budget..
could pls recommend me full size brown switch replacement mkb..budget <Rm300.. idm getting from taobao/local


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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Sep 15 2020, 09:59 PM)
hello, i been way too lost for mkb.. im using ducky shine 3 mx brown since 2013.. if i remember correctly... more and more backlid led giving problem... always light even when i off them...

i checked latest model ducky shine.. way out of my budget..
could pls recommend me full size brown switch replacement mkb..budget <Rm300.. idm getting from taobao/local
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RM295.00 | IKBC CD108 Black PBT Keycap Mechanical Keyboard Cherry MX Brown/ Blue/ Red Switch | https://s.lazada.com.my/s.1cReW

No LEDs.
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halo.. are there any reputable mech keyboard shops in Malaysia? I know of xtreme solutions in SG but would love to go in store to check out builds and test out yellow linear keys *hnngh*
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RM295.00  | IKBC CD108 Black PBT Keycap Mechanical Keyboard Cherry MX Brown/ Blue/ Red Switch | https://s.lazada.com.my/s.1cReW

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Sorry i should mentioned at least need single colour led.. during night time..
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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Sep 15 2020, 09:59 PM)
hello, i been way too lost for mkb.. im using ducky shine 3 mx brown since 2013.. if i remember correctly... more and more backlid led giving problem... always light even when i off them...

i checked latest model ducky shine.. way out of my budget..
could pls recommend me full size brown switch replacement mkb..budget <Rm300.. idm getting from taobao/local
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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Sep 16 2020, 12:38 AM)
Sorry i should mentioned at least need single colour led.. during night time..
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so i did read up abit.. gateron brown switch having some good review so i thinking of trying this switch.. during my search 2 models come up within my budget..
1) cooler master ck550
2) tecware phantom elite
3) ??

would like to ask are those keyboard ok? is the key cap standard keycap that i can replace some of my current keycap over??
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QUOTE(chrischiang @ Sep 16 2020, 10:14 AM)
so i did read up abit..  gateron brown switch having some good review so i thinking of trying this switch.. during my search 2 models come up within my budget..
1) cooler master ck550
2) tecware phantom elite
3) ??

would like to ask are those keyboard ok? is the key cap standard keycap that i can replace some of my current keycap over??
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Don't really fancy Cooler Master for the price. Tecware Phantom Elite + Gateron Yellow is a very good combo for linear and budget and hard to beat since it's feature packed and affordable. But you can choose brown since you want em. Not something I enjoy. Got better tactile switch than brown though.

They look like standard keycaps to me imo. Tecware confirm standard ANSI

I'm using a RK988 full size keyboard with black switch if you want 3rd option. Very sleek and minimal look as compared to the 2 boards you mentioned and got brown switch too but this keyboard is very basic barebone "keyboard only". I bought it mainly for wireless bluetooth. Other than that it's a basic Single LED backlit keeb

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QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 16 2020, 02:54 PM)
Don't really fancy Cooler Master for the price. Tecware Phantom Elite + Gateron Yellow is a very good combo for linear and budget and hard to beat since it's feature packed and affordable. But you can choose brown since you want em. Not something I enjoy. Got better tactile switch than brown though.

They look like standard keycaps to me imo. Tecware confirm standard ANSI

I'm using a RK988 full size keyboard with black switch if you want 3rd option. Very sleek and minimal look as compared to the 2 boards you mentioned and got brown switch too but this keyboard is very basic barebone "keyboard only". I bought it mainly for wireless bluetooth. Other than that it's a basic Single LED backlit keeb
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Thanks for suggestion! after searching abit on the internet, i decided to buy 3mm round led to replace the cherry mx led... i going resolder all the led... IF i fail my pcb then only i grab the new phantom elite... save up some money...
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QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Sep 15 2020, 11:33 PM)
halo.. are there any reputable mech keyboard shops in Malaysia? I know of xtreme solutions in SG but would love to go in store to check out builds and test out yellow linear keys *hnngh*
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there are shops at lyp and digital mall that have demo units.

QUOTE(chrischiang @ Sep 17 2020, 10:01 AM)
Thanks for suggestion! after searching abit on the internet, i decided to buy 3mm round led to replace the cherry mx led... i going resolder all the led... IF i fail my pcb then only i grab the new phantom elite... save up some money...
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yes, try repair first. for most mkbs, usually it's replacement of faulty components, and it will work fine again.
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Hello, I bought some keycaps on Massdrop/Drop and the tracking says it already cleared customs. do i need to arrange for pos malaysia to send from custom place to my address? If so how to do it? Thanks
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Hello, I bought some keycaps on Massdrop/Drop and the tracking says it already cleared customs. do i need to arrange for pos malaysia to send from custom place to my address? If so how to do it? Thanks
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uh? just wait for it? normally you shouldn't do anything, and the courier will send it to your designated address.


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is there a custom foam mat for leopold fc750r?
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is there a custom foam mat for leopold fc750r?
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nope. it's a commercial board. everything is already included in the package. however, you can still diy for both top plate + pcb, and pcb + bottom housing.

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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 18 2020, 10:13 AM)
nope. it's a commercial board. everything is already included in the package. however, you can still diy for both top plate + pcb, and pcb + bottom housing.
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Eh? I thought Leopold all foamed up dy?
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Eh? I thought Leopold all foamed up dy?
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partially, especially the area between top plate and pcb. previously quovadis123 posted the details of a disassembled fc750r, https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=94630141

that's why the custom foam mod by ourselves are actually much more complete than leopold's.

i will start preparing for my next reference build soon, using leopold's sp-star grey, kelowna switch films, and 63.5g springs from everglide in terms of switches. sp-star grey is a good alternative to cherry mx linear.




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I have a cooler master white led brown switch keyboard. One of the cherry mx switch is giving me problem. Sometimes it doesn't register when pressed or it will appear multiple times. Any advise sifus?
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Hi Guys,

Anyone can help me with this? Where can I get brown cherry mx switch with white led? I tried search lazada but doesn't seems to have it.

Its a Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L White Led Keyboard.

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QUOTE(leonc @ Sep 18 2020, 06:03 PM)
Hi Guys,

Anyone can help me with this? Where can I get brown cherry mx switch with white led? I tried search lazada but doesn't seems to have it.

Its a Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L White Led Keyboard.
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They're not sold together. Cherry doesn't make LEDs AFAIK. If the LED is working fine, all you need to to fix the switch. Cleaning and lubing it might fix your problem.
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Eh? I thought Leopold all foamed up dy?
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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 18 2020, 05:59 PM)
partially, especially the area between top plate and pcb. previously quovadis123 posted the details of a disassembled fc750r, https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=94630141

that's why the custom foam mod by ourselves are actually much more complete than leopold's.

i will start preparing for my next reference build soon, using leopold's sp-star grey, kelowna switch films, and 63.5g springs from everglide in terms of switches. sp-star grey is a good alternative to cherry mx linear.
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pretty much what he said, i wonder if there are any custom foam out there for leopold
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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 18 2020, 05:59 PM)
partially, especially the area between top plate and pcb. previously quovadis123 posted the details of a disassembled fc750r, https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=94630141

that's why the custom foam mod by ourselves are actually much more complete than leopold's.

i will start preparing for my next reference build soon, using leopold's sp-star grey, kelowna switch films, and 63.5g springs from everglide in terms of switches. sp-star grey is a good alternative to cherry mx linear.
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Oh ok. Yes, my own foam mod was much more complete.
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been using cheapo mech keyboard my whole life.. then upgraded to tecware (red switch) then ducky one (blue switch).. gave both of them away.. now unsure to just stick with budget (RK71) or do better and consider leopold/filco etc.. sigh
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QUOTE(saishu @ Sep 18 2020, 07:07 PM)
pretty much what he said, i wonder if there are any custom foam out there for leopold
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there are plate foams made for specific models of tkl, e.g. those from mkultra.click, or kbdfans.com. if you really wanna try them out, you can. however imo the better option is to just get strips of EVA foam (3mm + 0.5mm, or 4mm) with single-sided adhesive, cut and stick them yourself.

QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 18 2020, 10:14 PM)
Oh ok. Yes, my own foam mod was much more complete.
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right. it's actually a practical and cheap mod if you do it yourself. i did get pre-cut plate foams also. to me, they make no obvious difference, besides looking clean. (which serves no functional purposes)

QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Sep 20 2020, 04:36 AM)
been using cheapo mech keyboard my whole life.. then upgraded to tecware  (red switch) then ducky one (blue switch).. gave both of them away.. now unsure to just stick with budget (RK71) or do better and consider leopold/filco etc.. sigh
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first of all, mkb modding is not about price tag in many cases. it's mainly about tuning, with the right parts. it's already proven in meetups for many years and times, that with good tuning skills, cheapo boards feel nice too. (while still bound by physical limits)

if you just wanted to have a decent typing experience with commercial boards only, then you should opt for leopold, filco, and varmilo. if not, maybe you should consider hot-swap kits, or jump straight into custom kits, and learn how to solder/desolder.
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varmillo main web allows you to customize from ground up if you're lazy to learn.


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QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Sep 20 2020, 04:36 AM)
been using cheapo mech keyboard my whole life.. then upgraded to tecware  (red switch) then ducky one (blue switch).. gave both of them away.. now unsure to just stick with budget (RK71) or do better and consider leopold/filco etc.. sigh
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If you don't mind doing some research and waiting for shipping, you can source parts from aliexpress and make your own budget custom board. Or you could mod prebuilts like I do biggrin.gif
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If you don't mind doing some research and waiting for shipping, you can source parts from aliexpress and make your own budget custom board. Or you could mod prebuilts like I do biggrin.gif
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yup! decided to keep my phantom 87 red switches.. met a kind soul on fb group to pick up some colored keycaps from him.. start of my mkb mod!

since you also mod prebuilts.. you got any parts looking to clear? can pm tepi.. tongue.gif
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Anyone got experience with TTC Silent brown pro v2 switches?
Cheap, silent, tactile.......
Might be my cup of tea.
Unless got some fatal flaw somewhere.
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QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Sep 21 2020, 07:46 PM)
yup! decided to keep my phantom 87 red switches.. met a kind soul on fb group to pick up some colored keycaps from him.. start of my mkb mod!

since you also mod prebuilts.. you got any parts looking to clear? can pm tepi.. tongue.gif
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I only have a bunch of Cherry MX Black and Clear switches XD

I desoldered them from my Ducky Mecha Mini and Kul Es-87 and put in Gateron Yellows. Sooo smooth, and after filming and lubing with Krytox they sound amazing. Swapped the terrible stabilizers with genuine cherry ones and they don’t rattle anymore.

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kbdfans is a new vendor of their own switch films.

1. tx, https://txkeyboard.com/ (2 types of thickness, the usual 0.15mm and the new 0.125mm)
2. kebo, https://kebo.store/products/switch-films
3. deskey, https://deskeys.io/
4. thicc, https://maartenwut.com/product/thicc-films/
5. kelowna, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=620073366941 (thickness: its double-layer is 0.15mm)
6. kbdfans, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=627414114157 (thickness: 0.15mm)

the cheapest is from kelowna, and it's not bad.


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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 22 2020, 10:10 AM)
kbdfans is a new vendor of their own switch films.

1. tx, https://txkeyboard.com/ (2 types of thickness, the usual 0.15mm and the new 0.125mm)
2. kebo, https://kebo.store/products/switch-films
3. deskey, https://deskeys.io/
4. thicc, https://maartenwut.com/product/thicc-films/
5. kelowna, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=620073366941 (thickness: its double-layer is 0.15mm)
6. kbdfans, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=627414114157 (thickness: 0.15mm)

the cheapest is from kelowna, and it's not bad.
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First post material right here.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 18 2020, 06:55 PM)
They're not sold together. Cherry doesn't make LEDs AFAIK. If the LED is working fine, all you need to to fix the switch. Cleaning and lubing it might fix your problem.
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Ohh. I thought the switch and LED is together. Cause it seems like together when I remove the keycaps. Hahaha

The problem with the switch is that sometimes I press it doesn't register or it will register twice or more. Quite annoying.
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once i press one key, it auto come out double and triple
any ppl know how to solve it ?
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First post material right here.
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some also make their own by 3d-printing them hehe

QUOTE(leonc @ Sep 22 2020, 05:53 PM)
Ohh. I thought the switch and LED is together. Cause it seems like together when I remove the keycaps. Hahaha

The problem with the switch is that sometimes I press it doesn't register or it will register twice or more. Quite annoying.
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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 22 2020, 06:20 PM)
once i press one key, it auto come out double and triple
any ppl know how to solve it ?
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both sounded like key chattering. you can try blow compressed air into the affected switches (stuff like lens blower works also), and see if it helps: take off the cap, press the slider down, and then blow air into the switch. you should spam the switch for a while also.

usually air blowing trick should do the job well. if air blowing is not working, you can still desolder and tear the affected switch down, then clean it up, then put it back. or, you can just replace it with a good one.

if it's still not fixed, it might be something else at fault.


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some also make their own by 3d-printing them hehe
both sounded like key chattering. you can try blow compressed air into the affected switches (stuff like lens blower works also), and see if it helps: take off the cap, press the slider down, and then blow air into the switch. you should spam the switch for a while also.

usually air blowing trick should do the job well. if air blowing is not working, you can still desolder and tear the affected switch down, then clean it up, then put it back. or, you can just replace it with a good one.

if it's still not fixed, it might be something else at fault.
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ok
thanks
tonight i try XD

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anyone know where can i get a topre here?
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2nd hand market or order online I guess
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I am looking at Leopold right now in Shopee at PcByte. Looks good.
Some of the colours are very enticing but impractical cause I will go crazy if it turns dirty. xD
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which leopold are you looking at?
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2nd hand market or order online I guess
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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 22 2020, 10:06 PM)
both sounded like key chattering. you can try blow compressed air into the affected switches (stuff like lens blower works also), and see if it helps: take off the cap, press the slider down, and then blow air into the switch. you should spam the switch for a while also.

usually air blowing trick should do the job well. if air blowing is not working, you can still desolder and tear the affected switch down, then clean it up, then put it back. or, you can just replace it with a good one.

if it's still not fixed, it might be something else at fault.
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Thank for the feedback bro. Any idea where can I purchase an original new Cherry MX brown switch? Stumbled upon a few shops in lazada but not sure if they're genuine.

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2nd hand market or order online I guess
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hard to find them on shopee/lazada or even lyn garage sales sad.gif
im asking my friend to help me look around in japan when he's heading out to the pc store
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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 22 2020, 10:06 PM)
both sounded like key chattering. you can try blow compressed air into the affected switches (stuff like lens blower works also), and see if it helps: take off the cap, press the slider down, and then blow air into the switch. you should spam the switch for a while also.

usually air blowing trick should do the job well. if air blowing is not working, you can still desolder and tear the affected switch down, then clean it up, then put it back. or, you can just replace it with a good one.

if it's still not fixed, it might be something else at fault.
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While what horns mentioned is really good advice, just a note about this method, silrave DO NOT blow using your breath, technically our breath contains quite a bit of water/vapour in it and might cause oxidisation to happen on the contact points in the switch. A lens blower would be the safest if you want to blow some air to clear off dust.
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didnt notice u sold off all ur keebs  bye.gif
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Yep selling off another one. Figured I am just wasting money and best to use the fund for something more useful like stocks lol
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Oh daaaamn you had a TXCP for sale!
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Thank for the feedback bro. Any idea where can I purchase an original new Cherry MX brown switch? Stumbled upon a few shops in lazada but not sure if they're genuine.
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i think you should ask this at mymkb fb group. i think there should be someone who have spares.

usually i get switches from taobao (kbdfans, ymdk, and other reputed shops). locally, it's keys.my, and from users at lyn, mymkb, and mechmarket.

QUOTE(slack3r @ Sep 24 2020, 03:58 AM)
Yep selling off another one. Figured I am just wasting money and best to use the fund for something more useful like stocks lol
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this is actually a good and practical point smile.gif

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and here i am still wasting money on hobbies. whistling.gif
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is RAMA WORKS U80-A SEQ2 worth for endgame keyboard?

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is RAMA WORKS U80-A SEQ2 worth for endgame keyboard?

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endgame exist?

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endgame exist?

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Oh daaaamn you had a TXCP for sale!
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is RAMA WORKS U80-A SEQ2 worth for endgame keyboard?

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Sep 24 2020, 11:28 PM)
endgame exist?

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I'm just curious about it. looks like people have high regard towards rama's keyboard.
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QUOTE(taf89 @ Sep 25 2020, 07:00 AM)
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I'm just curious about it. looks like people have high regard towards rama's keyboard.
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https://rama.works/nemo
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good point
and here i am still wasting money on hobbies.  whistling.gif
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i spent on 3 mkbs before i called it quits. My main driver MKB is still solid up to today nod.gif doubleshot and dye sublimated keycaps still clear as the day i bought them. No new replacement required.

My only experience with led lighting was back when i use a Logitech G15, but even then the lighting was subpar compared to whats available these days. If i bought a new MKB, i'd probly try a doubleshot mkb with led lighting. There quite a lot of choices for this now thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 28 2020, 05:40 PM)
i spent on 3 mkbs before i called it quits. My main driver MKB is still solid up to today  nod.gif  doubleshot and dye sublimated keycaps still clear as the day i bought them. No new replacement required.

My only experience with led lighting was back when i use a Logitech G15, but even then the lighting was subpar compared to whats available these days. If i bought a new MKB, i'd probly try a doubleshot mkb with led lighting. There quite a lot of choices for this now  thumbup.gif
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well most of my keebs are just used and bought fairly cheap. just to have fun trying diff keebs. and just like u, my 1st mkb i bought is still going strong at my mom's home pc which is use by whole family.

but after all the purchase, i can agree that spending on one(or more) damn good kibod is better than buying a lot off the shelves boards even for cheap. it all depends on how into kibod a person is. for me, i just like to collect antiques.
afterall, its a hobby and hobby demands money.
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PSA - Cherry plate mount stabs in stock at ilumkb singapore
https://ilumkb.com/collections/stabs-lubes/...ount-stabilizer

1 'set' is only for TKL or smaller though. If you have a full size you'll need 2.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 30 2020, 03:06 PM)
PSA - Cherry plate mount stabs in stock at ilumkb singapore
https://ilumkb.com/collections/stabs-lubes/...ount-stabilizer

1 'set' is only for TKL or smaller though. If you have a full size you'll need 2.
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alternatively, you can try out the ones from gateron also, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=607713235146 (white), https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=596931635269 (black)

they are stock stabilizers for my z70ultra. after tuned, it's decent.
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Hi guys, I'm kinda out of ideas here, been looking for MX Clear keyboards and while there are some Leopold sellers in Msia (like Gamer's Hideout or PCByte on lazada). The clears are all out of stock, would you guys know any specialized places where I can get clears or something similar to clears? (good build quality + strong tactile bump + no click)
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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Oct 3 2020, 02:44 PM)
Hi guys, I'm kinda out of ideas here, been looking for MX Clear keyboards and while there are some Leopold sellers in Msia (like Gamer's Hideout or PCByte on lazada). The clears are all out of stock, would you guys know any specialized places where I can get clears or something similar to clears? (good build quality + strong tactile bump + no click)
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I guess it depends on the form factor you're looking for. No ideas of any TKL that comes standard with Cherry MX Clear that's readily available in Malaysia right now, but I did see some Ducky Miya Pro (65% form factor) with Cherry MX Clear in readily available stock.
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been using cheapo mech keyboard my whole life.. then upgraded to tecware  (red switch) then ducky one (blue switch).. gave both of them away.. now unsure to just stick with budget (RK71) or do better and consider leopold/filco etc.. sigh
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May be I can share some of me recent experience on this. Got my Ducky One 2 SF (cherry brown) a month ago but it gives me a bad typing experience. I try to lube it without desolder but still feel like typing on cheap plastic mostly because of its plastic casing. I feel that Anne Pro 2 which I am using previously is better.

Until today I cannot last it anymore so I go try Leopold FC660M at the shop and get love with it immediately
and decided to bring it home. For me, Leopold FC660M are way more better than ducky one 2 SF, be it on the build quality and typing experience. The downside are Leopold still using micro USB port and do not have RGB.
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QUOTE(dickson_dcs @ Oct 3 2020, 11:25 PM)
May be I can share some of me recent experience on this. Got my Ducky One 2 SF (cherry brown) a month ago but it gives me a bad typing experience. I try to lube it without desolder but still feel like typing on cheap plastic mostly because of its plastic casing. I feel that Anne Pro 2 which I am using previously is better.

Until today I cannot last it anymore so I go try Leopold FC660M at the shop and get love with it immediately
and decided to bring it home. For me, Leopold FC660M are way more better than ducky one 2 SF, be it on the build quality and typing experience. The downside are Leopold still using micro USB port and do not have RGB.
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I thought Leopold is using mini USB instead of micro usb?
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QUOTE(dickson_dcs @ Oct 3 2020, 11:25 PM)
May be I can share some of me recent experience on this. Got my Ducky One 2 SF (cherry brown) a month ago but it gives me a bad typing experience. I try to lube it without desolder but still feel like typing on cheap plastic mostly because of its plastic casing. I feel that Anne Pro 2 which I am using previously is better.

Until today I cannot last it anymore so I go try Leopold FC660M at the shop and get love with it immediately
and decided to bring it home. For me, Leopold FC660M are way more better than ducky one 2 SF, be it on the build quality and typing experience. The downside are Leopold still using micro USB port and do not have RGB.
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Same situation as you in terms of getting either ducky sf or leopold fc660m & currently I am using my first mechanical keyboard which has outemo switches.
Downside for me on leopold is really no rgb light for night typing. Which switch did you chosed for leopold?
FYI mecha sf which has a metal casing is coming in Nov.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index....duct_list&c=935
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Anyone using IKBC keyboards? Are they worth the money? Looking for a durable keyboard that can last 3 years or more.

Not interested in RGB, just want a good reasonable solid keyboard.
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Anyone using IKBC keyboards? Are they worth the money? Looking for a durable keyboard that can last 3 years or more.

Not interested in RGB, just want a good reasonable solid keyboard.
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Got a CD108 in November but killed it with over eager modding.

Have been using a F108 as my daily driver since April. First as WFH and now in the office. Heavily modded and super happy with it.

But even out of the box it is already nice. There are better more expensive boards out there, but I feel that the basic CD108 or CD87 is good value for money.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Oct 4 2020, 03:24 PM)
Got a CD108 in November but killed it with over eager modding.

Have been using a F108 as my daily driver since April. First as WFH and now in the office. Heavily modded and super happy with it.

But even out of the box it is already nice. There are better more expensive boards out there, but I feel that the basic CD108 or CD87 is good value for money.
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Thanks for the feedback. There are always better ones but out of my budget.

One thing though, if you use in office, which switches you're using? Is MX Brown ok or too noisy? I prefer to have some feedback rather than red. Otherwise, seems like no difference from normal membrane keyboard.

Tq!
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Oct 4 2020, 03:28 PM)
Thanks for the feedback. There are always better ones but out of my budget.

One thing though, if you use in office, which switches you're using? Is MX Brown ok or too noisy? I prefer to have some feedback rather than red. Otherwise, seems like no difference from normal membrane keyboard.

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Cherry MX Browns and Reds should have no difference in terms of sound if you are bottoming out. Mine is far from stock, but stock IKBC are no louder than your average membrane.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ Oct 4 2020, 03:49 PM)
Cherry MX Browns and Reds should have no difference in terms of sound if you are bottoming out. Mine is far from stock, but stock IKBC are no louder than your average membrane.
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ok, thanks. might go for brown then.
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I am currently using my CD108 w brows.
comparing to my reds(other branded keebs, but both are using cherrymx), u dont really feel the tactile feedback on browns. it is there, but barely.

but as always, switches are a personal preferences.

hope u enjoy ur new board.
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I thought Leopold is using mini USB instead of micro usb?
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QUOTE(december88 @ Oct 4 2020, 12:32 AM)
Same situation as you in terms of getting either ducky sf or leopold fc660m & currently I am using my first mechanical keyboard which has outemo switches.
Downside for me on leopold is really no rgb light for night typing. Which switch did you chosed for leopold?
FYI mecha sf which has a metal casing is coming in Nov.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index....duct_list&c=935
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I was kinda hard to choose which color to go when purchasing FC660M, since its lack of RGB so I tend to go for white color for better visibility on keycap letter but worry it will get dirty easily. So end up getting the ash yellow color.

I choose red switch for this Leopold and really love its smoothness. Anyone know whether Leopold switches are pre-lubed?

I am aware of mecha sf but I can't wait that long as I really dun like to type on my ducky sf and need a replacement immediately. Hopefully mecha sf will be better on the typing experience.


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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Oct 4 2020, 03:28 PM)
Thanks for the feedback. There are always better ones but out of my budget.

One thing though, if you use in office, which switches you're using? Is MX Brown ok or too noisy? I prefer to have some feedback rather than red. Otherwise, seems like no difference from normal membrane keyboard.

Tq!
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I was also prefer to have some feedback when I purchase my first mkb so I go for brown. But end up you won't feel that so called "tactile bump" during your normal typing unless you do a light touch on the key. So now I rather go for smoothness instead the feedback.

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Anyone using IKBC keyboards? Are they worth the money? Looking for a durable keyboard that can last 3 years or more.

Not interested in RGB, just want a good reasonable solid keyboard.
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it's relatively solid. it's one of the better options for commercial board options.

QUOTE(dickson_dcs @ Oct 4 2020, 09:56 PM)
I was kinda hard to choose which color to go when purchasing FC660M, since its lack of RGB so I tend to go for white color for better visibility on keycap letter but worry it will get dirty easily. So end up getting the ash yellow color.

I choose red switch for this Leopold and really love its smoothness. Anyone know whether Leopold switches are pre-lubed?

I am aware of mecha sf but I can't wait that long as I really dun like to type on my ducky sf and need a replacement immediately. Hopefully mecha sf will be better on the typing experience.
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key caps should be cleaned up from time to time.

not sure, but sometimes i really think they are pre-lubed; similar to cherry mx red on filco and varmilo.

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it's relatively solid. it's one of the better options for commercial board options.
key caps should be cleaned up from time to time.

not sure, but sometimes i really think they are pre-lubed; similar to cherry mx red on filco and varmilo.
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Can't find any info on the Internet but I did ask the sales person and is not pre-lubed. Will try to lube without desolder and see what is the outcome.

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Can't find any info on the Internet but I did ask the sales person and is not pre-lubed. Will try to lube without desolder and see what is the outcome.
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i have done comparisons before, with cherry mx red/black/silent red that i obtained from taobao. these stock switches are scratchy. they're just like any other cherry mx, but nothing like the ones on leopold/filco/varmilo boards.

yes, i believe they are stock. however i suspect that they have gone through additional processes at maybe cherry's factory. the feel is just different.

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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 5 2020, 03:02 PM)
i have done comparisons before, with cherry mx red/black/silent red that i obtained from taobao. these stock switches are scratchy. they're just like any other cherry mx, but nothing like the ones on leopold/filco/varmilo boards.

yes, i believe they are stock. however i suspect that they have gone through additional processes at maybe cherry's factory. the feel is just different.
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Ya, exactly. The switches on Leopold way more better than those on my Ducky One 2 SF and Anne Pro 2. However I noticed the casing of the switches on Leopold are black color while my ducky and Anne Pro 2 are transparent. Not sure whether they are different or not.

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QUOTE(dickson_dcs @ Oct 5 2020, 05:14 PM)
Ya, exactly. The switches on Leopold way more better than those on my Ducky One 2 SF and Anne Pro 2. However I noticed the casing of the switches on Leopold are black color while my ducky and Anne Pro 2 are transparent. Not sure whether they are different or not.
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they are different. leopold uses cherry mx with black nylon housing, while those on ducky one 2 sf and anne pro 2 are cherry mx rgb.

cherry mx with black nylon housing is always nicer haha


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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 5 2020, 05:37 PM)
they are different. leopold uses cherry mx with black nylon housing, while those on ducky one 2 sf and anne pro 2 are cherry mx rgb.

cherry mx with black nylon housing is always nicer haha
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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 5 2020, 03:02 PM)
i have done comparisons before, with cherry mx red/black/silent red that i obtained from taobao. these stock switches are scratchy. they're just like any other cherry mx, but nothing like the ones on leopold/filco/varmilo boards.

yes, i believe they are stock. however i suspect that they have gone through additional processes at maybe cherry's factory. the feel is just different.
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this is something new for me too. never know this.

must resist myself to buy a leopold whistling.gif
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this is something new for me too. never know this.

must resist myself to buy a leopold  whistling.gif
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yes, somehow cherry mx on filco/varmilo/leopold are smoother, compared to stock switches found at taobao, relatively speaking.

after tuned it's a different story.




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QUOTE(dickson_dcs @ Oct 5 2020, 12:00 PM)
Can't find any info on the Internet but I did ask the sales person and is not pre-lubed. Will try to lube without desolder and see what is the outcome.
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hi noob here, where can i buy keychron keyboard?

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Oct 6 2020, 09:59 AM)
Not sure how you intend to "lube without desolder", but that's a great way to ruin a good keyboard. Especially if you're buying into that spray lube hype. icon_question.gif
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Been using the method in the video and apply on my Ducky SF. The typing has been better but I am still not satisfied. Not using spray lube.

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yes, somehow cherry mx on filco/varmilo/leopold are smoother, compared to stock switches found at taobao, relatively speaking.

after tuned it's a different story.
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well after tuned, everything is a diff story. thumbsup.gif

well just like u said, to jaga standard, those brands u mention might done something to the switch so they be better than others.
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hi noob here, where can i buy keychron keyboard?
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QUOTE(dickson_dcs @ Oct 6 2020, 02:51 PM)


Been using the method in the video and apply on my Ducky SF. The typing has been better but I am still not satisfied. Not using spray lube.
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Yes, almost forgotten about this other method since most people are raving over the oh so convenient method of using spray lube. However, while this method does make a difference, I think it misses out on one of the more important aspects of properly lubing a switch, the springs. Most springs in stock switches make some form of noise (spring ping or spring crunch) and friction which impacts the overall sound & feel too. But, yeah, without a doubt, to desolder and solder just to lube would be a hassle for most people and hence I would always advice starting from a custom kit unbuilt instead of starting with a built kit, unless, of course, the things you want is not commonly available in custom PCBs.
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Yes, almost forgotten about this other method since most people are raving over the oh so convenient method of using spray lube. However, while this method does make a difference, I think it misses out on one of the more important aspects of properly lubing a switch, the springs. Most springs in stock switches make some form of noise (spring ping or spring crunch) and friction which impacts the overall sound & feel too. But, yeah, without a doubt, to desolder and solder just to lube would be a hassle for most people and hence I would always advice starting from a custom kit unbuilt instead of starting with a built kit, unless, of course, the things you want is not commonly available in custom PCBs.
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While this method does not properly lube the spring but it does make a difference on my Ducky SF and improve typing feel. However it still not satisfied me therefore went for Leopold. I did considered to go for custom built with hot swap but the price is too high and out of my budget.

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Been using the method in the video and apply on my Ducky SF. The typing has been better but I am still not satisfied. Not using spray lube.
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it's similar to spray lubing in terms of messiness created, and its effect is partial.

well, if you're comfortable with this, so be it.

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Oct 6 2020, 10:47 PM)
well after tuned, everything is a diff story.  thumbsup.gif

well just like u said, to jaga standard, those brands u mention might done something to the switch so they be better than others.
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yes the differences are obvious. (even silent red on leopold is one of the kind smooth, different from the usual scratchy and mushy feel of typical silent red in nylon housing)

i'm sure stock switches in all commercial boards are genuine, and they are as scratchy as stock switches found at taobao. hence i believe additional steps are done to make the differences.

QUOTE(dickson_dcs @ Oct 7 2020, 10:05 AM)
While this method does not properly lube the spring but it does make a difference on my Ducky SF and improve typing feel. However it still not satisfied me therefore went for Leopold. I did considered to go for custom built with hot swap but the price is too high and out of my budget.
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right, it will make a difference or two, but still incomplete. (for instance, the key to lube springs is at two ends) like the video said, probably 80%, which might be good enough to many, because it takes less time, and less risk on spoiling pcb in processes like desoldering.

also, while it might be ok for linear switches, it's not a good idea to do the same to other switch types.

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Any1 can suggest me a small keyboard with arrow keys? Not interested in blue switches.. Maybe red or brown or some stuff liddat hahaha im new at this.. If any1 selling also can lemme know my budget is below 300 thanks guys
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QUOTE(imacsplayer @ Oct 7 2020, 02:04 PM)
Any1 can suggest me a small keyboard with arrow keys? Not interested in blue switches.. Maybe red or brown or some stuff liddat hahaha im new at this.. If any1 selling also can lemme know my budget is below 300 thanks guys
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Tenkeyless(TKL) and 64% keyboard.
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Currently I'm on a IKBC CD108 with Cherry MX Brown switches - I found out that MX Browns are not that tactile to say the least (it feels more like a Red switch) hmm.gif

Are there any switch that feels more tactile? hmm.gif
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Currently I'm on a IKBC CD108 with Cherry MX Brown switches - I found out that MX Browns are not that tactile to say the least (it feels more like a Red switch) hmm.gif

Are there any switch that feels more tactile? hmm.gif
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from off the shelf board, not much u can choose from except if u find cherry mx clear. yet again, clear uses heavier switch which u may or may not like.

if aftermarket switch, there is a lot to choose from depending on ur budget for switches.
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so, i just fucked up my keycaps.

used hot hair dryer on my keyboard to dry spill water and the keycap melted.

does anyone know where I can buy 1 whole set of keycaps?

Im currently using Corsair K70 red switch


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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Oct 11 2020, 01:46 AM)
so, i just fucked up my keycaps.

used hot hair dryer on my keyboard to dry spill water and the keycap melted.

does anyone know where I can buy 1 whole set of keycaps?

Im currently using Corsair K70 red switch
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you can find corsair's genuine key cap sets (black, white), thick double-shot pbt, at taobao, like this one, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=562014686345

alternatively, you can also find other compatible sets there too.

now you know how thin those stock caps are.

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post Oct 11 2020, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 11 2020, 12:36 PM)
you can find corsair's genuine key cap sets (black, white), thick double-shot pbt, at taobao, like this one, https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=562014686345

alternatively, you can also find other compatible sets there too.

now you know how thin those stock caps are.
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Can i buy it locally?
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post Oct 11 2020, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Oct 11 2020, 04:04 PM)
Can i buy it locally?
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a few years ago, limited sets were available locally. now, not sure.

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post Oct 11 2020, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 11 2020, 09:55 PM)
a few years ago, limited sets were available locally. now, not sure.
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what about other keycaps?

do certain pc shop sell it?
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post Oct 12 2020, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Oct 11 2020, 10:11 PM)
what about other keycaps?

do certain pc shop sell it?
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yes, there are several sets that are compatible with corsair k70's non-standard layout. however they are available at taobao mainly.

the link that i shared with you above is where i got mine. they are genuine corsair sets, good-quality 1.5mm-thick double-shot pbt.

you can hardly find good key cap sets at local pc shops.

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