Its coming..

The "unofficial" news as follows:-

1. Confirm coming with 3 variants: 1.8, 1.5T and 1.5T High Spec

2. We saw the preview. Now, launch is on 9th June. (Courtesy from netcrawler)

3. Price is not firm but could be RM13Xk++ for 1.5T High Spec. 1.5T High Spec is with LED Lights, Navi system.

4. Booking is now available with RM1,000 (refundable)

Apparently, no Honda Sensing, comes with 6 airbags, rear vent blower, LED DRL (for high spec), walk away lock (same as Mazda) and remote start but we do get dark ruby red!!!

This post has been edited by guilt79: May 29 2016, 10:12 AM

should be rm 135k max for 1.5turbo

I was told by SA that Honda is indeed planning to launch the 1.5 turbo as the top of the range Civic. Price wise, they might roll out 2 range of 2.0L that is estimated to be similar to the current 9th gen 1.8L range while the 1.5L turbo should be 135K or 140K. Price wise, it "should not" eat into Accord's territory.

Apparently they're open for booking for a small fee and expected to launch in June.

Quoted by SA, don't shoot me if I'm wrong.

wah I thought the turbo charge will not come to Malaysia..
so now the 2.0 become the baseline model?
no 1.8 ver.?

1.5 turbo should be same as Honda jade. Direct injection with 7speed cvt. Rated at 148hp

Aiyoh...not those awful CVTs. Please get rid of them.

Would really prefer a conventional auto with 6-speeds.

and oh yes, a 6-speed M/T on the 1.5 Turbo for the enthusiasts.

New civic should coming somewhere between April / May date, also BR-V launching this year

Carry on dreaming. Honda is not going to cater for the teeny weeny market of enthusiasts who love M/T cars.

That's foreseen, but at least offer the 6-speed conventional automatic 'box in place of those awful CVT trannies.

I think if the 1.5L turbo Civic is offered here it will be positioned as the top end model with full options and priced at Accord 2.0L territory. Maybe even more than the base Accord.

Such is the mentality of Jap auto distributors here. Turbo is considered a premium luxury feature to them. Almost too good for Asian markets.

If you don't want to pay through your nose for a turbo car go get the Jetta. It's still the best power C-segment car for the price. Alternatively the new Ford Focus with 1.5L ecoboost will challenge the Jetta. Both are good alternatives.

This post has been edited by kluseng: Feb 3 2016, 11:54 AM

not sure how's the performance...but based on my own exp (jazz) and review for hrv..the cvt did a good job. off course u lost the 6 speed auto feel..but the honda cvt is quite smooth and responsive.

150k for a 200HP car.

Dream on Honda Malaysia

but Honda r&d chief mention
"But while the Chinese market is set to gain Honda’s turbocharged power, it looks like the rest of South East Asia (SEA) may not be so lucky. “Depending on the market and region, but particularly in Asia and other emerging markets, we will continue offering our naturally-aspirated lineup, which tends to be less costly. In South East Asia, we will supply our current lineup of naturally-aspirated engines”

so cross finger la.

It's only 174 hp.

In the US there are plans for an Si model with a de-rated version of the Type R 2.0 Turbo.

Don't need finger crossing, Tubo variant is coming here

tha't even more sad, if it retails for 150k

150k?? 150k??!!

Better be JDM spec CBU for 150k

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 3 2016, 03:06 PM

Speaking of that, is it going to be CBU or CKD?

Hands down CKD, no way that they'll bring in from Japan. Consider yourself lucky if from thailand.

Honda Malaysia will definitely CKD it.

Then grey imports will bring in those that been left out by Honda Malaysia, such as Type R coupe CBU from Japan.

Walaoooo. 150k??? Then why you don't go for accord?

same like top spec altis can buy low spec camry, y wan go for altis? Must ask urself u need the space, or u wan a top range fun to drive C-seg or not, or u need the classy look of Accord.

If the price goes into the next segment I would rather take the next segment even if kosong spec. For RM150K better take the Accord for space, comfort and style. If your priority is a fun car with power there are cheaper and better alternatives than an overpriced lightly boosted turbo Civic.

This post has been edited by kluseng: Feb 3 2016, 10:19 PM

RM150k can get a mid spec Accord dy with cruise control, reverse camera, DVD player, power seats etc. etc.....It is hardly kosong.

The base spec Accord is only 141k.

Furthermore, somebody has already mentioned the Jetta and the upcoming Focus 1.5T.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 3 2016, 08:39 PM

it might be possible..this yr import tax from japan suppose to be 0%.

but 150k still not 2.4L right? i never drive a d seg car before but feedbacks are 2.0 hardly very fun to drive, like uncle car becos underpowered for d seg.

My bro-in-law has a 2.0 (the base spec one, though). The performance is reasonable, goes up and down genting without much struggle.

It's not exactly what I would call fun to drive, but it is not bad.

But still....RM150k for a C-segment (and summore possibly CKD) is asking a lot, turbo or not. As for the fun-to-drive part, if it comes with CVT then......

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 3 2016, 09:00 PM

i have a jazz at home, i think it is OK for me, it does feels abit conventional when normal drive abiet when u pedal to metal the car just praaaaang all the way. How much honda sell their type-r 2.0 for malaysia market? For me i dont like tat they put all the tech at the better engine configuration. Not the euro hatchback one which is grey import.

I drive lots of manual vehicle, small car, pick up, lorry and this me me hate automatic transmission.

The CVT is the worst in term of responsiveness. Even tho I never drive a Honda CVT for prolonged period. Those company Preve and Saga mia rubber band feel, really annoying.

2.0L for D-segment car drives ok. Just don't try to drag race with other cars at traffic lights. Even Myvi can beat you. Overtaking need to allow more road ahead. But overall it doesn't feel underpowered. My impression based on 2.0L Sonata.

Hold your horses guys.

Adding some info after digging.

Apparently the current civic already stop production now and is quietly moving to new civic.

Revised price. 2.0L is around RM13xk, whereas 1.5LT (don't have code name so temporary address as 1.5LT) is RM14xk

It's not CBU. It's CKD and the first batch is 10,000 units. Spec is still unknown but was believed that 2.0L will not come with LED DRL. Again these are rumors..

Honda is organizing product training and we shall see more news in end Feb..

Dude, but 140 150 for a c segment car is a big no for me..

Calm down bro. This is still rumors only.. If 1.5LT is RM136k, same as Cerato, expect lots of things removed.

I hoped that it will continue to support apple CarPlay or google but don't think it will...

Honda - The Power of Dreams.

To all the dreamers here...

Exchange rates aside, I have no idea why the new Civic should cost over 135k. Since the new engine employs a cheaper single scroll vs a more expensive twin scroll as found in the 308THP, which btw cost just a drop over RM135k but comes fully loaded.

With Honda's economies of scale, they should be able to source and manufacture the parts cheaper than Peugeot can.

My friend working in Honda Malaysia as marketing, the launch is around mid May.

The Kia Cerato 2.0L is RM119,888 OTR including insurance and it looks pretty well equipped to me.

lately korean brand has always been well equipped compared to the japanese brands except mazda i guess.... the two powerhouse of T and H always give us minimum equipment with maximum price... but they already marked a brand in most of Msian heart.. for most of us... korean = no no, conti = damn no no, japan = basic spec kosong ( expensive also hell yes~!)

We speak of relative price, but maybe in Honda Malaysia's GM perspective, they do so just because THEY CAN.

Eh but now I eyeing Renault also. Seems promising, esp the fluence

This post has been edited by [Ancient]-XinG-: Feb 4 2016, 02:03 PM

No lah. I'm talking about Cerato Koupe..

Toyota lagi kosong also people die die keep buying, they already how to play us so why bother giving us more stuff and lowering their profit margin

And 150k for a C-segment? Go fly kite lah Honda.

lol... you can go through Fluence thread.... I myself is driving one... so far no regret at all... all the owners as well... but this is civic thread... so i duwan compliment more of other brand cars here.... hahaha

yea... I agreed with you... T is the most kosong in their C-segment with that kns pricing.... but still they able to perform..... hence that shown how much confidence msian have towards them.... kosong pun mau~! 130k for kosong C-segment? No problem... as long as it is T....

If this is the upcoming Civic, it not cup of my tea. Look like Insight more.

that is US version. Ours could be different and i still wondering how good the looks if include modulo bodykit

this is a bit out of topic but..

Which would you prefer if you were about to buy a car this year for a family of 4, 2 adults + 2 small children

Sedan
A) 9th Gen Honda Civic (why 9th ? cause of the discounts!)
B) 10th Gen Honda Civic , 1.5 turbo
C) Mazda 3 CKD full spec

or

A) Cx-3
B) HRV

your thoughts ?

You can't compare Cerato Coupe with a 4 door family car like the Civic. The proper comparison is Cerato 2.0L

With Cerato 2.0L and Mazda 3 (2.0L) high spec selling for RM120K if Honda thinks it can price the Civic 2.0L at RM135K and the Civic Turbo at RM150K why not? The real competitor to the Civic is Altis and Honda only need to price it a little lower than Altis.

But RM150K for a Civic turbo with only slight power increase over the 2.0L is way out. Hence I have my doubts if Honda wants to bring in the turbo and price it for a niche market.

IMHO, mazda 3 or cx-3 if you dont mind about the tight rear seats.... hrv underpower but good space... 9th gen civic everything average only... nothing special... 10th gen... see wad they launched in msia first....

such a pretty looking car, i just hope it has the performance to match

Definitely Mazda 3 high spec. It's the most value for money buy with the best specs. The back space of the M3 has been badmouthed beyond reality by those who don't own the car. There is no problem for 2 adults at the back although 3 will be a squeeze.

I somehow feel the 9th gen civic looks nice. However, a lot of people dislike the design.

10th gen = seems to look a bit out of proportion.
9th gen = fighter jet look.
8th gen = more rounded looks like a potato.

horsepower and torque?
rear suspension = tor-beam?

yup, baik beli second hand brz/gt86 (or lotus if this's purely weekend car) whoever want fun to drive or whatever

This post has been edited by heavensea: Feb 5 2016, 06:50 PM

So what would you recommend for a fun to drive car which can also be used as a daily driver and not more than RM150K NEW?

This post has been edited by Ginny88: Feb 5 2016, 08:04 PM

boh liaio...
ford fiesta st ok ma?? small small car

Small never mind but manual GB wor! Got AT or not?

I think the FC Civic X looks awesome and I can hardly find a fault in its exterior design which looks futuristic.
No loud bodykits are required. Maybe just the side skirts and a subtle boot lip would do just nice to enhance the looks.

Make me feel itchy about choosing mazda 3 or honda civic x gen turbo......

Love the skyactiv of mazda, and love the turbo of civic (dun know will come to malaysia or not)

Of course 1.5T is the best choice. But take note. No paddle shift.

So, not sure how it's powered..

The thing is, the turbo civic only comes with cvt gearbox. So...the gearbox will rob wateva fun that comes from the turbo engine... good thing though is the cheap rm90+ roadtax.

Reserve the criticism of the CVT for the time being...the current city's CVT is quite good in comparison from previous generation, quite responsive to pedal inputs. Most importantly is how will the power match the gearing ratio. We can see how the car feels on the road when it arrives later part of the year.

Exactly.
When the 1.5T doing 1-100Km within 7.2S, that is rather fast.

Hopefully Honda Malaysia price it fairly. Anything more than 135K is a bit steep.
If Mazda 6 2.0 CKD priced around this figure, I think I'll go for Zoom Zoom....

Ah well, I was inclined to change to the new Civic when it arrived the time to let go of the old car. But after considering how long it would take to actually see one here (let alone the possibility of a long order book which i think it will), i chose the Mazda3 instead.

As for the pricing, my thoughts are use the current model's most expensive spec and add on another 4-5k plus another 2k for the depreciating ringgit factor. The price of a good turbocharger system with intercooler is around that price in the aftermarket arena.

Another reference point will be using the most expensive spec toyota corolla pricing. If honda wants to be really competitive to grab market share from toyota, it shouldn't charge anymore than that. If it's really so, toyota is really going to feel the pain.

do we actually need to change gear tat often to keep on criticizing cvt?

So fast got new civic. I just bought the civic last October. Rug la...

personally i think you have missed the boat.. to buy an old model...

Even if new civic priced few k higher or even 10k higher, for smarter choice you still would opt for it because of the new platform and engine. How many times, car manufacturer willing to change new platform? not often because it costs a fortune for the development.

those that rush for year end discount.. think twice again. This is new generation.. not facelift oh. If facelift, sure buy it...

Year end discount + last year price + last year interest rate. Not a bad deal for me. New civic will definitely won't have any discount offered just like hrv.

New 10th generation couldn't offer 1.8l? I'm thinking of buying one by only need 1.8

Have a quick chat with my SA, he said that turbo of Civic will be coming in around April or May of this year, and it can now be booking already

If new civic 1.5T is RM144k, Accord starts at RM145k?

Mazda 3? No doubt it look nice but after test drove one I thought it's performance is so so only....
But for Mazda 6, I am sold once I sat inside one.

If the price gap between the new Civic and CKD Mazda 6 is not that big, obviously Zoom Zoom is the answer.

Of course accord. It's a different class. The built is more refined and classy.

According to <link removed>, civic is once again appear in streets of Thailand.

Based on timeline, if Civic not appear by end Feb in Thailand, means most likely we have it on June or July.

Interestingly, saw the Honda Lanewatch in Civic. Meaning high spec will get Lanewatch?

Any news if they'll be bringing Type R in?

No idea, I didn't ask about Type R but only asked for turbo engine

The Civic X test car in Thailand had the rear C-pillar windows blanked out for some reason. I hope these windows will remain and not be blanked out in the launch model.

Awful? Its the best cvt in the market.

JETTA IS a piece of crap. Extremely unreliable and design is very dated. The new civic 1.5 turbo is still a better buy.

It might be the best CVT in the market, no doubt.
But I still prefer a conventional auto to a CVT.
That's what I meant.

Civic in Thailand

Looks like it's coming. If I read correctly, there is support for Apple CarPlay, remote startup. I wonder got paddle shifter..

Anyway, take note in US, the 10th Gen Civic got recall and stop selling. This affects 2.0 NA only.

Would honda price its 1.8L at 112K like current generation?

Would honda price its 1.8L at 112K like current generation?

Would honda priced its 1.8L at 112K like current generation?

This post has been edited by netcrawler: Feb 16 2016, 04:41 PM

Well the new Civic 1.5 Turbo has been tested by Thailand's headlight magazine.

The figures are not doubt the best we've seen among all Japanese/Korean cars that is available in the local market. But still falls short of rivaling its continental opponents.

0 - 100km/hr: 9.11s
80 - 120km/hr: 6.77s

Sauce!

looking nicer than older gen. i see rs version.

I was surprised to see the Civic being out performed in straight line action by its rival Nissan and by a Slyphy on top of that!

The slyphy turbo does 0 - 100km/hr in 8.3s which puts it squarely in Jetta performance category.

But the Slyphy looks really .... boring ... to put it nicely.

where u see it?

Sauce!

ok but still it wouldnt matter because we cant race it on street and we wont race it.

unfortunately can't get sylphy turbo here
btw, i believe the civic focus more on bigger space/more features and better fuel economy (hence the cvt) by utilizing the engine torque, while performance goes to type r.

a ~1-2s faster car (1 or 2 car length ahead) may not be really matter in real life...

If it got paddle shift, then a different story..

Headlightmag is a joke, if you see how they do the testing you'll laugh.

Much better review, done with proper instruments.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-h...rbo-test-review

The new civic is actually fast.

I read the article and really, there is no way this new civic can do 0 - 100 in 6.8s. Even the Fiesta ST, which by the way has more power and torque (and is about the same weight as the civic) does 0 to 100 in 6.7s. That 9s+ mark for the new Civic sounds about right to me.

It depends on how they tune on the car since torque power is good, but personal feeling it wouldnt be 6sec+, 9 secs is really sound reasonable but yet, it doesnt really impress on the speed, just acceptable.

No way? Why living in denial. Plenty of youtube videos showing it can do 7s.



Edit: Btw, the Fiesta ST (manual) has poor 0-100 is because of gearing issue. Need 3rd gear to reach 100kph, needing 2 shifts to get to 100 slows it down.

This post has been edited by rockets: Feb 18 2016, 04:40 PM

lol normal sedan, u guys comparing 0-100