Check out the drag strip battle of the new 10th Gen Civic 1.5T vs the 9th gen Civic Si (2.0 DOHC VTEC manual tranny)



This post has been edited by GeekinE90: Feb 19 2016, 12:10 PM

Will the 1.5T High Spec in Malaysia be the range topping RS version like the one for the Thailand market? I think it looks better with the black grill and rear spoiler and red dashboard lighting found on the RS trim in Thailand.

Andriod auto is supported on Thai spec Civic. So we should get it here too.

Indonesia spec Civic seems to have a CD/DVD slot.
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While Thai RS spec ones look more like the US one. Both 7" screens.
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This post has been edited by GeekinE90: Apr 19 2016, 12:25 PM

Carplay is from Apple, Andriod Auto is from Google. Both can mirror the phone screen on the 7" display.

You are right. Just checked and Andriod Auto is not officially listed for Thai Spec RS model. Thai made Civic RS for Australian market supports Andriod Auto. I think it's because Google has not released Andriod Auto for Thailand and Malaysian markets yet. Just tried downloading it and it says the app is not available for our country. Bummer!

List of Apple Car Play countries:

Apple CarPlay: Apple CarPlay
https://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availabil...ay-applecarplay


Australia Austria Belgium Brazil4 Canada China Denmark Finland France Germany Hong Kong India4 Israel Italy Japan Malaysia Mexico Netherlands New Zealand Norway Republic of Korea Russia Saudi Arabia4 Singapore Spain Sweden Switzerland Taiwan Thailand4 Turkey United Arab Emirates4 UK USA


List of Andriod Auto countries:
https://www.android.com/auto/


The Android Auto app is currently available in the following countries:
Argentina Australia Austria Bolivia Brazil Canada Chile Colombia Costa Rica Dominican Republic Ecuador France Germany Guatemala India Ireland Italy Mexico New Zealand Panama Paraguay Peru Puerto Rico Russia Spain Switzerland United Kingdom United States Uruguay Venezuela

This post has been edited by GeekinE90: Apr 19 2016, 12:57 PM

Hopefully the headunit supports Andriod Auto natively when Google releases Andriod Auto for Malaysians. Maybe the headunit firmware already supports it, but since Andriod Auto is not released to Malaysians yet, Honda cannot say the car supports it.

Do we get the Thai RS version for top spec with the black front grill or just normal 1.5T like the one in Indonesia market? If it comes with remote engine start, then likely it's the RS spec?

It had the rear 3rd brake light on the parcel shelf unlike the Thai RS which has the 3rd brake light on the spoiler and none on the parcel shelf. However no sharkfin which the Indon version has. Unless the one spied in Melaka was the mid Spec 1.5T and not the top spec 1.5T RS?

Based on reviews, the 10th Gen Civic is a class ahead of it's rivals in terms of build materials, NVH, tech, ride etc. The Civic was developed against the benchmark set by the C segment german cars (3 series, A4, C class). We will find out soon how well Honda did when it launches here.

This post has been edited by GeekinE90: Apr 29 2016, 03:05 PM

At least HM went with Pearl white instead of Tafetta white which does not reflect light as well on the angles of the body panels. Tinted Silver (on Jazz) would have been nice on the 10th Gen civic, and the brighter Carnival Red or Rallye Red is bolder vs. the Dark Red Ruby Pearl.

You can google "Honda Civic benchmark European". Plenty of references online. Honda USA during the launch of the 10th Gen civic made a statement about this.

While I like Mazda cars, the rotary is dead. Trend today is for compact turbos that make good torque low down, lightweight and fuel efficient. Mazda is still stubborn and is sticking to larger displacement Skyactive engines which needs winding up to make the equivalent torque vs. it's smaller turbo rivals. Toyota is late is launching their compact mainstream 1.2T engine although Lexus has replaced the 2.5 V6 with the new 2.0T.

The other area is transmissions. It's a shame to see great engines being paired up with outdated and inefficient 6SP auto slushbox (e.g. NX200T). Mazda is also very late in the tranny tech race.. Lexus/Toyota has 8/9spd trannys coming soon. Honda DCTs and stepped CVTs which are highly efficient.

Also, in terms of innovation, look at the weight of the vehicle to see how it stacks up to it's competitors. The new B9 A4, and the W205 C class is a generation ahead of BMW's F30. Modular platforms which uses ultra high tensile steel to give the rigidity and stiffness but without the fat. It takes manufacturers a lot of R&D $$$ to develop a new platform/Body in White that meets/exceeds the latest safety standards (e.g. small overlap crash tests), so some companies just rehash old BIWs and chassis for new models (e.g. current gen BMW 3 series).

This post has been edited by GeekinE90: May 3 2016, 10:38 AM

Wow, 1.5T Premium has Garmin Navi similar to the top spec VTI-LX (one spec higher than RS) sold in Australia. I don't recall the Thai RS spec cars come with Garmin Navi. Any confirmation on Apple Carplay? Not specified in the teaser Ads by HM. Wonder if HM will offer the black grill as official Honda accessories.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/435571/2016-ho...specifications/

This post has been edited by GeekinE90: May 4 2016, 09:40 AM

The car comes std with HDMI inputs which is supposed to mirror your phone screen on the 7" touchscreen on the dash when plugged in. In the brochure Honda calls it "Smartphone mirroring" via HDMI

Below is the Brochure of what Philippines are soon getting. Nice choice of colors, and the RS comes with interior Ambient lighting (like the new W205 C class!). Made in tomyam land...

http://www.hondaphil.com/the-all-new-civic...16-Brochure.pdf

This post has been edited by GeekinE90: May 4 2016, 10:44 AM

It's become mainstream nowadays. Remember many years ago, older buyers will shy away from things like power windows, fancy electronics and electric seats etc for the very same reasons...

Yes Rallye Red is much more exciting than what I recall (on the City) for the Dark Ruby Red Pearl color. I thought the 2016 Carnival red was nicer than Ruby Red as well. Maybe on the civic Ruby Red looks better?

Pic below of Rallye Red Civic.

Not bad at all. I think it's a photoshop of the original Rallye Red pic here..

They key difference in the video is the ambient temp. 15 degrees cool dense air in the US video vs. 34 degrees warm humid (maybe A/C running too?) in the Thai video. MY has better fuel RON rating vs. USA and in theory, we should see a few more real world HP from this if the temperature is identical.

UAE Civic 1.5T is rated slightly higher at 180HP for the Civic Sedan (http://www.honda.ae/cars/new-cars/civic/#performance-title) . The Eurospec Civic HB is rumored to make 201hp and 260nm from the same 1.5T (refer Paul Tan article on Civic HB) from the factory.

Looks like the upper factory tune is 201hp and 260nm for the 1.5T. Remains to be seen what tuners like Mugen/Spoon/HKS will come up with...

This post has been edited by GeekinE90: May 5 2016, 03:11 PM

Compare the interior pics of US based 10th Gen Civics vs. the Asean (Thai/Indon) Civics. Big difference in the quality of materials, such as leather steering, dash/steering wheel plastics, stitching and seats. So far the local Civic interiors have been OK. Hope HM gives us good interior materials for the local CKD Civic..

US Based Civic interior pics (notice plastic panel on steering wheel and leather on gearknob, steering wheel is matte):

http://www.civicx.com/attachments/img_2015...60748-jpg.3067/

http://www.civicx.com/attachments/img_2015...60844-jpg.3008/

ASEAN Civic Interior pics (gloss cheaper plastics on steering wheel covers):