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post Feb 3 2016, 04:03 PM

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Hands down CKD, no way that they'll bring in from Japan. Consider yourself lucky if from thailand.
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post Feb 8 2016, 12:32 AM

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Reserve the criticism of the CVT for the time being...the current city's CVT is quite good in comparison from previous generation, quite responsive to pedal inputs. Most importantly is how will the power match the gearing ratio. We can see how the car feels on the road when it arrives later part of the year.
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post Feb 8 2016, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(W.ROOK @ Feb 8 2016, 01:40 AM)
Exactly.
When the 1.5T doing 1-100Km within 7.2S, that is rather fast.

Hopefully Honda Malaysia price it fairly. Anything more than 135K is a bit steep.
If Mazda 6 2.0 CKD priced around this figure, I think I'll go for Zoom Zoom....
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Ah well, I was inclined to change to the new Civic when it arrived the time to let go of the old car. But after considering how long it would take to actually see one here (let alone the possibility of a long order book which i think it will), i chose the Mazda3 instead.

As for the pricing, my thoughts are use the current model's most expensive spec and add on another 4-5k plus another 2k for the depreciating ringgit factor. The price of a good turbocharger system with intercooler is around that price in the aftermarket arena.

Another reference point will be using the most expensive spec toyota corolla pricing. If honda wants to be really competitive to grab market share from toyota, it shouldn't charge anymore than that. If it's really so, toyota is really going to feel the pain. thumbup.gif

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post Feb 22 2016, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(leon898 @ Feb 21 2016, 06:09 PM)
I somewhat agree with you..we will see the real review along with proper result for My model...hopefully in May 16...

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Very very unlikely to be ready in May'16 to arrive in Malaysia, that timeline is more likely for the facelifted accord. The new Civic not even started assembly in thailand and will only start in March'16. Factor in qualification run, quality checks, line assembly optimisation, shift arrangements, stock buildup and other bla bla bla, last quarter (at earliest) of 2016 would be more likely for our market. I have a sinking feeling that it would launch around end of the year. On the optimistic side, thailand could start selling it in mid 2nd quarter or early 3rd quarter.

See here :
http://www.carlist.my/news/honda-start-pro...-thailand/37225
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post Feb 23 2016, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Feb 22 2016, 07:48 PM)
Roughly how much for this civic turbo?
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QUOTE(leon898 @ Feb 23 2016, 07:44 AM)
should be more or less the same as mazda 3...
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More likely closer to the price of top spec 2.0 toyota altis hmm.gif
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post Feb 24 2016, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Feb 24 2016, 09:30 AM)
Why rumor when internal said it is end of May?
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As i said in few posts earlier, this so called rumor will more likely be the facelifted accord, NOT THE NEW CIVIC. Even thailand and singapore haven't launch, where got so fast launch here?

You can start holding your breath for the launch during 2nd half of the year, but i still hold to my estimation to be in Q4 2016.
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post Feb 25 2016, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Feb 25 2016, 05:24 AM)
Thailand is confirmed to be launching in March bro. India too.
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You're right, my forgetfulness about the upcoming thailand launch.

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Feb 25 2016, 10:02 AM)
Ok, we shall see.
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Let's see whether I need to eat my words or not sweat.gif

QUOTE(de_sengal @ Feb 25 2016, 10:49 AM)
Bro, my reliable SA said there is high possibility that it will be launch inQ2 this year. And please bear in mind, usually manufacturer will start the car production first then only launch the product.
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SA words cannot believe one la...confirmed only when they are called for marketing briefing/training of new model. I still think 2nd half of 2016 much likelier for our market.

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post Mar 3 2016, 04:41 PM

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Too bad in Thailand, not in Malaysia....

I still think June launch a bit optimistic to our markets. If really can make it on June, hope that the delivery won't take months....
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post Mar 11 2016, 02:22 PM

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The ballpark should be around +/- RM3k of the top spec toyota altis. If priced beyond that, Honda must have really big balls to stun the market/rip off car buyers...

140k is a nice price as it undercuts the top spec altis slightly yet the quality will be ahead while giving them a healthy margin without scaring the potential customers.
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post Mar 18 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(ls71 @ Mar 12 2016, 09:51 PM)
To me matching turbo engine with CVT is just not a right combination.

Perhaps Mazda 3 with 2.0 NA engined mated with 6 speeds auto gearbox would have better performance then this new civic 1.5 Turbo?
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Drive the thing first then only make such judgement...CVTs have came a long way and Honda's engineers sure put in a lot of work to tweak it for the best balance of responsiveness and fuel economy.

Seems like quite a number of reviews from other countries able to get sub 7s 0-100km/h acceleration numbers...quite a hoot drool.gif

I got to test drive that thing when it launches here biggrin.gif

QUOTE(guilt79 @ Mar 16 2016, 11:04 PM)
No way. It's a trap
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Yes way if just kereta kosong without GST and insurance laugh.gif

If you add in GST and insurance, the price comes to the ballpark figure of 140k.
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post Apr 18 2016, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 18 2016, 12:12 PM)
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif true.... dont be blinded by brand name anymore everyone.... toyota, honda and even nissan giving u low spec with high price....
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Mazda also quite reliable brand la....
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post Apr 19 2016, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 19 2016, 11:10 AM)
yeah... no matter what.... honda will be next gen of toyota... common honda cars everywhere on the road.... like city, hrv and current gen civic.... if FOFO.... you will be feeling special all the time... haha.... with the same performance we expecting from conti cars... lol....
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Despite it will become a more common sight, it will be a car with good ownership experience thumbup.gif

If not for the more urgent need of a car, i would have waited for the upcoming Civic....

Anyway, my advance congratulation to those potential owners here icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 19 2016, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Alternation @ Apr 19 2016, 01:04 PM)
Anyone here put down deposit already? Those who did, how long to take delivery?
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If optimistic, within 1 month after official announcement. If not should be around 3 months for new model supply chain to stabalise.
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post Apr 19 2016, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(blackchides @ Apr 19 2016, 02:23 PM)
The back design of the car is going to be very polarizing. I still can't decide whether I like it or not.
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 19 2016, 02:27 PM)
and yes the back is kinda overkill
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Then wait another 3.5 years for facelift and decide whether to buy lor whistling.gif
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post Apr 23 2016, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(hardforum @ Apr 23 2016, 06:52 PM)
Checked with the Honda sales agent. They gonna have a training (briefing) in May. It will be launched in Jul or Aug. Model 1.5 turbo and 2.0 NA. Price TBC 120k - 130k.
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If that's the case, save up your cash folks for the downpayment rclxm9.gif
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post May 4 2016, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ May 4 2016, 10:56 AM)
Honda MY should can the R18 and launch something new with ED.
But I think the 1.8 version is intended for the folks who can't afford the Turbo or who can't justify paying the extra premium for something which they think they don't need.
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Or for those that totally don't want turbocharged engines.

There are additional maintenance required no matter how reliable a turbocharged system maybe. Got additional powertrain components, more potential part failure. Not only the turbocharger itself (by it self already got bearing, seals and turbine), got intercooler, wastegate, oil supply and return hose, water cooling jacket (not sure whether this type of turbocharger is water cooled or not), BOV, etc....

All these are potential added costs and maintenance time...

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post May 4 2016, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(GeekinE90 @ May 4 2016, 11:45 AM)
It's become mainstream nowadays.  Remember many years ago, older buyers will shy away from things like power windows, fancy electronics and electric seats etc for the very same reasons...
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True...

I expect Honda will charge more for the maintenance, maybe around RM100 or more than the non turbo engine....
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post May 11 2016, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ May 10 2016, 11:26 PM)
BTW, anyone bought honda first batch b4. I scare got issue especially the turbo model since it just starting to assemble here in Msia and might not have enough experience. What you think guys?
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If you're not in a hurry, always a good idea to purchase 1 year after CKD operations (best after facelift as most minor issues get solved here). During the assembly of each successive batch, minor changes maybe incorporated (like maybe extra sponge/padding on dashboard to reduce rattling, updated ECU for better engine performance, better assembly equipment tuning so parts can fit better, known faulty parts get swapped, solve some TSB items, etc. The parts supplier will also be learning along the process to optimise quality and production process. So, technically, each successive batch will be better than the previous one. smile.gif

In other words, the first few batch of owners will be the guinea pig and Honda will be listening to their feedback and pass it on to the manufacturing/assembly end, hence successive batches will get lesser and lesser problems. This applies to all car brands thumbup.gif

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post May 11 2016, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ May 11 2016, 10:06 AM)
Thanks for detail explanation. Normally how long to take for them to move from the initial first batch to the successive batch?
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That one I have no idea how long are the batch runs. I presume ball park should be every 3 months, some sales advisors are quite knowledgeable, you can ask a few of them on this. Since you're not is such a hurry, better wait for the actual car and test drive it. Then you have all the time to decide until next year. Chinese new year period a good time as usually will have some promotions/offers.

QUOTE(usopkun @ May 11 2016, 11:08 AM)
If I'm not mistaken base price accord is 141k while civic premium is 135k. So it does make sense to choose civic over accord for that price.
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I did read some review comments on US sites and they say the interior space of the new civic makes you wonder whether the need for he Accord. Meaning, the interior space is equivalent or just slightly smaller at worst.

Honda is going slightly upmarket also with this model, so may price higher a bit to reflect the "premium-ness" biggrin.gif

Regardless, it is going to be a good car to own. rclxms.gif
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post May 11 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 11 2016, 03:59 PM)
My SA called to top up another RM800 for Civic booking. Last month I only placed a RM500
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Don't make sense leh...they shouldn't be asking for more money as the deposit money is just a "que" to reserve a unit for you. When I bought my car last year, i just deposit RM200 only and got my actual "reserved" physical car about 2 weeks later. By 3rd week, the car delivered to show room and 4th week loan under processing.

No idea why they ask so much, maybe is their commission mega_shok.gif

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