where u see it?

Headlightmag is a joke, if you see how they do the testing you'll laugh.

Much better review, done with proper instruments.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-h...rbo-test-review

The new civic is actually fast.

No way? Why living in denial. Plenty of youtube videos showing it can do 7s.



Edit: Btw, the Fiesta ST (manual) has poor 0-100 is because of gearing issue. Need 3rd gear to reach 100kph, needing 2 shifts to get to 100 slows it down.

Don't see you reserving 'judgement' when posting the above  . Sorry but when it's an instrumented test done by a reputable car magazine/website(that's been around since the 70s), their words tend to carry more weight than some random dude on the internet. If you don't think the civic can do 7s then it's up to you to prove them wrong.

bunch of naysayers....

Life is more than just 0-100...

Having said that, CVT has home a long way.. those that say the current Honda CVT is rubbery feel, obviously has not driven one.

Tested the CX5 skyactiv GB and HRV CVT, the CVT responsiveness is so much better while the Skyactiv was very lethargic due to its algorithm/parameters unless one using the manual shift on the Mazda.

And if you must insist...enjoy this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t30I6DBdiU

Why need to dyno la to settle any question? While the vid may not be the only bible truth, its good enough as reference when power curve comes in at low and early rpm that even with CVT, it makes up for it... would be interesting to see if there is Turbo SiR version in US.

The video is just some preliminary indication of what the little forced engine can do. Looking at the current wave of turbo tech with peanut engine.... those NA 1.8/2.0/2.5 is pretty much at risk.

If I go after dyno test, I'm more interested on the torque and power curve not just the peak. Then again dyno can only say so much for a daily beater

Hondata already dynoed the car. Video done by the same hondata guy in the video posted above. The car produces more power than advertised.

Even if the R18 is a decade old, I'm sure Honda has done some fine tuning and tweaked the internals for better efficiency and performance.

I wonder what the sprint test results would be with Petron RON100, and a/c off.

Here's a good write-up on the R18A engine.

http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/R18A/

On to the point everyone is talking about, the turbo engine. VTEC Turbo – can an engine sound more evocative than that? The branding might conjure images of breathtaking Type R performance, but the expectations of enthusiasts can be counterproductive in this case, because the Civic 1.5L Turbo is all about efficiency. Efficiency in getting up to speed and efficiency in burning fuel.

We don’t have figures for the latter, but the Turbo’s FC will beat the old 2.0 NA and current 1.8 NA. What we can tell you is the way the Civic Turbo gathers speed and how one should not approach it. Not like how you would drive a Volkswagen Group turbo dual-clutch car, for instance. What you ask from the VAG car, you’ll get back in real time. Let’s not forget that the boosted Civic is still paired to a CVT, and a progressive right foot is key to a harmonious partnership.

There’s no pronounced turbo effect, or “kick in the back” as some would call it, but a linear build up in speed. The car is undoubtedly fast – never mind our old 2.0, it’ll even outdrag the USDM Civic Si with a 2.4L NA – but doesn’t quite feel that brisk pulling from low speeds. Plant your foot down on the accelerator and the drivetrain’s response is slow. I don’t think it’s turbo lag per se, but the combination of turbo and CVT characteristics.

Volvo launched their new S60 T6 2.0L turbo sedan today. 306HP, 400Nm torque. 0-100kmph in 5.9secs. 8 speed auto. RM280K only. Relatively cheap & more powerful compared to Audi A6 and BMW 528i M sports.

It's a turbocharger and supercharger combined.

Seems the trend nowadays is more powerful turbos at lower prices. That's why I think Honda should have done a better job with their turbo. Either provide a proper turbo or pair it to a normal torque converter transmission not a CVT.

Focus 1.5 ecoboost has 180hp and 240nm but it weights more though.

Bro, im sure ure aware that even the Koreans have a turbo in the market and it's not a soft turbo like the Civic. And their cars aren't priced over the top either. Anyway u can still have the soft turbo but pair it to a normal torque converter transmission and u'll get much better acceleration figures. You don't actually need a twin scroll turbo.

Is the Civic the most powerful in its class? I thought the Jetta is more 'powerful' with its 250Nm torque from 1,500RPM vs the Civic's 220Nm from 1,700RPM?