The Kia Cerato 2.0L is RM119,888 OTR including insurance and it looks pretty well equipped to me.

Eh but now I eyeing Renault also. Seems promising, esp the fluence

Toyota lagi kosong also people die die keep buying, they already how to play us so why bother giving us more stuff and lowering their profit margin 

And 150k for a C-segment? Go fly kite lah Honda.

this is a bit out of topic but..

Which would you prefer if you were about to buy a car this year for a family of 4, 2 adults + 2 small children

Sedan
A) 9th Gen Honda Civic (why 9th ? cause of the discounts!)
B) 10th Gen Honda Civic , 1.5 turbo
C) Mazda 3 CKD full spec

or

A) Cx-3
B) HRV

your thoughts ?

Actually the current 9th gen FL 2.0 Navi is doing RM135,900.00 OTR with Insur. and GST.
It is already nearly 136k and people here mindset are still thinking C-seg should be around 120k-130k?
10th gen Civic highest spec (turbo) will fall within 137k - 140k OTR with Insur. plus GST (estimate) and lowest spec accord could possibly increase price slightly due to its FL.

The new Ford Focus 1.5L ecoboost sedan is RM140K. So price of high spec Japanese C-segment is not very different from Conti cars. But the reliability is very different. Some owners need a reliable car to make a living and they don't want to spend all their annual leave at service centres.

you seemed to forget mazda 3 is CKD (not sure about altis)
before ckd, m3 was priced 139k

If you want to compare Japanese cars, Mazda 3 CKD GL spec is the most value for money considering the price, engine capacity, safety features and equipment. It's only RM109K OTR. You can't even get a basic Altis 2.0, Civic 2.0 or Slyphy 1.8 for that money and they all lose to the M3 GL in equipment. And the handling is great as well.

honda still steady in MY, u guys have to wait till shlt hits honda then only promote mazda  . In US, Mazda is actually quite underrated due to low dealer network penetration however their production line is very good. Some automotive analyst is already aware of this. This sleeping giant not yet wake up.

UMW toyota is "down" recently due to stripped down safety equipment (VSC), online news spread like wildfire. VW is down due to gearbox problem and very poor aftersales service. Whilst, Proton will never grow up due too much sucking up milk from govt.

mazda & honda the only way to go for mid-end cars.

Last weekend I went to KLCC and saw Toyota doing roadshow... What surprised me was, for the first time I noticed Toyota giving discount/rebate to all model and 5years warranty plus 5years free service both parts and labour!!

I think car market now is getting more competitive which is very to us as consumer. Thanks to VW crazy deal I guess who started crazy promo last one year.

You have a point there, but the price increase is marginal and can be offset with the rebate that they have given... This time they throw out free services and warranty up to 5years... They won't do this thing if Malaysian still continue to support Toyota blindly. I guess our consumer is smarter now.

looks like top range civic(rs in thai) has been spotted testing in melaka.

i was nearly go for ford focus but since i can wait, might as well wait for civic. not sure about waiting period for the top range model

well, malaysians are quite loaded when it comes to car purchase
the only thing i dun like civic is it will be very common on the road soon

Don't forget how Honda was taught a good lesson by the public with their 9th gen Civic. They thought they could offer a new design with cheapo build quality and ppl will still flock to buy. Turned out to be among the worst performing sales in Honda's history. Current buyers are suffering from low resale value as well.

Honda surely did a much better job with the new Civic and sales will be quite good im predicting. But having the CVT is going to be a major disappointment for a lot of those who booked the Turbo version assuming its gonna be VW Golf like.

Yes u're right.

Mazda has really done well with their interior build quality. Something that's seriously lacking in Honda and Toyota. I did a test drive with the Mazda 2 the other day. I must say I was quite impressed with the driving dynamics. Totally different from the Honda City. And mind you I drive a F10.

Just a though, when Toyota offer only 2 air-bags why the \k slam and shot them as sometime totally not acceptable and warn honda on the importance on must have a lot of air-bag...

and Mazda2 with 2 air-bags is acceptable? 

he mention 2 notch higher...  then i have to reduce those notches... bcos of family... size and comfort took priority...

Mazda in 80s and early 90s already tried at mass market.  with 2 offering in ford laser and mazda 323 they were quite successful arm-wrestling with Toyota, Datsun and Honda... and the astina, it was my dream car.  One way or another they cannot sustain and become niche market player.  in order to success, Mazda Japan have to come in direct... not through middleman Bermaz.