Carry on dreaming. Honda is not going to cater for the teeny weeny market of enthusiasts who love M/T cars.

It's only 174 hp.

The Kia Cerato 2.0L is RM119,888 OTR including insurance and it looks pretty well equipped to me.

So what would you recommend for a fun to drive car which can also be used as a daily driver and not more than RM150K NEW?

This post has been edited by Ginny88: Feb 5 2016, 08:04 PM

Small never mind but manual GB wor! Got AT or not?

The new Ford Focus 1.5L ecoboost sedan is RM140K. So price of high spec Japanese C-segment is not very different from Conti cars. But the reliability is very different. Some owners need a reliable car to make a living and they don't want to spend all their annual leave at service centres.

If you want to compare Japanese cars, Mazda 3 CKD GL spec is the most value for money considering the price, engine capacity, safety features and equipment. It's only RM109K OTR. You can't even get a basic Altis 2.0, Civic 2.0 or Slyphy 1.8 for that money and they all lose to the M3 GL in equipment. And the handling is great as well.

Is it that bad? You had personal experience or you just heard?

0-100 km/h in 7.5 sec for a 220Nm car? In your dreams! Even the Jetta with 250 Nm can only claim 8.3 sec. Don't believe youtube videos where the car may not be stock.

This post has been edited by Ginny88: May 7 2016, 10:28 AM

It does matter if you are trying to achieve the best 0-100km/h. How long the gears hold can affect this time.

Anyway this obsession with 0-100 time is academic unless you bought this car for drag racing.

Since the reviewer had a Civic in his hands I wonder why he didn't test out the century sprint instead of quoting a paper figure.

You worry too much. I don't think the battery can go so flat until the brake cannot be released.

Some people like the engine sound when they step the pedal. Not sure about the Civic 1.5T but the Mazda 3 gives a satisfying "Vroom" when you step on it to 3500rpm.

It really sucks to have to do different servicing for A, B & 10K interval. Grouping servicing together is only if they happen to be close to each other. You may have to go at least 2 times within the 10K service interval, in the worse case 3 times when owners of other cars including turbo cars only need to go once. This is a poor system designed without any consideration for the time of Honda owners. In actual fact the oil filter can be changed together with the engine oil at A so B is not necessary and the 10K interval service is pointless as nothing is done except checking which can be done at A. The trouble of having to go to SC 2-3 times more than usual may be a good reason not to buy a Civic turbo.