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post Jan 9 2016, 12:03 AM, updated 4y ago

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I'll upload some content in this first post once i have spare time.


Continued from previous thread here:
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post Jan 9 2016, 12:48 AM

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Hi all, I thinking to get a home use coffee machine and grinder, my budget is around Rm2.5k max for both.

Can anyone give some suggestion ? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Jan 9 2016, 12:48 AM)
Hi all, I thinking to get a home use coffee machine and grinder, my budget is around Rm2.5k max for both.

Can anyone give some suggestion ?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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U would probably want to raise your budget. A good grinder can easily cost RM2.5k by itself, and almost the same for a machine, maybe a lil more.
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 9 2016, 12:03 AM)
I'll upload some content in this first post once i have spare time.
Continued from previous thread here:
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V2! Let's keep it going rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jan 9 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Jan 9 2016, 12:48 AM)
Hi all, I thinking to get a home use coffee machine and grinder, my budget is around Rm2.5k max for both.

Can anyone give some suggestion ?   notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Maybe say...
Poemia - 800
Lelit - 1200

I don't know latest price...but this a start...

Can be cheaper if you go Taobao...

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post Jan 9 2016, 11:07 PM

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where in JB can get good dark roast beans?
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post Jan 10 2016, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Jan 9 2016, 11:07 PM)
where in JB can get good dark roast beans?
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I think any good artisan cafes would have them.
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post Jan 10 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(kenlui @ Jan 9 2016, 02:24 PM)
U would probably want to raise your budget. A good grinder can easily cost RM2.5k by itself, and almost the same for a machine, maybe a lil more.
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So in your opinion, what would be the minimum initial setup?
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post Jan 10 2016, 10:06 AM

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Saw others mentioning some china brand grinder. Are they any good? Any recommendation.
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post Jan 10 2016, 11:48 AM

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lel is starbucks freak consider as coffee kaki laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 10 2016, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(razorkid @ Jan 10 2016, 10:06 AM)
Saw others mentioning some china brand grinder. Are they any good? Any recommendation.
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Google reviews of "600N" and balance it against the fact they cost 20% of a European branded grinder.

Also, what's your preferred brewing method? If only espresso using unpressurized portafilter, I would guess your needs are pretty high standard; then maybe not good enough.
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 10 2016, 01:55 PM)
Google reviews of "600N"  and balance it against the fact they cost 20% of a European branded grinder.

Also, what's your preferred brewing method? If only espresso using unpressurized portafilter, I would guess your needs are pretty high standard; then maybe not good enough.
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Espresso and unpressurised. Trying to get the bare minimum and cheapest for espresso. 20% of 2-3k sounds lovely
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 10 2016, 09:40 AM)
So in your opinion, what would be the minimum initial setup?
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4-5k, or maybeu could have a lookmat china brands as suggested. Not to familiar with those.
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jan 10 2016, 11:48 AM)
lel is starbucks freak consider as coffee kaki laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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In general most members here don't treat Starbucks as real coffee. They are more like coffee flavoured syrup/sugar drinks company haha
However you are most welcomed to stay and read and hopefully we will successfully brain wash you over to the dark side icon_idea.gif

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post Jan 10 2016, 06:29 PM

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What thermometer do you guys use? Can anyone recommend any?
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What thermometer do you guys use? Can anyone recommend any?
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RM10 thermometer from China gotten off Ebay. A little slow but works well enough for water temps
Are you using it for water or milk?
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post Jan 10 2016, 09:22 PM

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http://www.baratza.com/choosing-your-grinder/

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https://www.chriscoffee.com/coffee-bean-grinder-s/2099.htm
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QUOTE(razorkid @ Jan 10 2016, 02:01 PM)
Espresso and unpressurised. Trying to get the bare minimum and cheapest for espresso. 20% of 2-3k sounds lovely
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Read up Tikietic, he got the full setup from taobao all welhome branded
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry76824136

For 4500 can get full set
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.htm...1898.0.0.Q3tflK

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Less $$ try
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.htm....101.196.gCCUZE
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post Jan 11 2016, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 10 2016, 10:35 PM)
Welhome/惠家KD-310 is a product rebranded from Sunbean. Is KD310 and Baratza Preciso a good match ?
The problem is they cant be found in local.
Since they are electronic, if I buy from Taobao, will TAX be imposed. I think postage alone also wont be cheap.
And afterward maintenance ? like service, parts change after degeneration? should i add these into consideration ?
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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Jan 11 2016, 10:32 AM)
Welhome/惠家KD-310 is a product rebranded from Sunbean. Is KD310 and Baratza Preciso a good match ?
The problem is they cant be found in local.
Since they are electronic, if I buy from Taobao, will TAX be imposed. I think postage alone also wont be cheap.
And afterward maintenance ? like service, parts change after degeneration?  should i add these into consideration ?
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Good match is subjective all I can say it's a good start on a budget
Ask those who have bought on taobao pm the dude ( Tikietic ) who shop online not me. Such machines just need descale no need parts change on a annual basis. May last 5-7 yrs before u need to find something new.

Google for review around, I only point you to who bought on taobao and own such machine. I cannot comment on tax and shipping cost etc

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 11 2016, 12:36 PM)
Good match is subjective all I can say it's a good start on a budget
Ask those who have bought on taobao pm the dude ( Tikietic ) who shop online not me. Such machines just need descale no need parts change on a annual basis. May last 5-7 yrs before u need to find something new.

Google for review around, I only point you to who bought on taobao and own such machine. I cannot comment on tax and shipping cost etc
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Just check KD-310 and I think it is out of my budget, Kd210 alone already cost me 2.5K, they will free their ZD-10 coffee grinder, I will use that temporarily before I have enough money to get baratza preciso. Or is there any wpm coffee grinder that is on par with preciso?

baratza preciso also getting from taobao ?

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any zd-15 grinder seller besides dankoff? emailed them to quote the price but not yet reply, quite interested in zd-15 but not considering get from taobao due to exchange rate and shipping lol hmm.gif
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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Jan 11 2016, 01:42 PM)
Just check KD-310 and I think it is out of my budget, Kd210 alone already cost me 2.5K, they will free their ZD-10 coffee grinder, I will use that temporarily before I have enough money to get baratza preciso. Or is there any wpm coffee grinder that is on par with preciso?

baratza preciso also getting from taobao ?
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WPM zd-15 zd-16 zd-17 seems get alot of good review for espresso and value for money hmm.gif
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recommended taobao seller

https://coffeelure.taobao.com/category-1558...%A5%B6%B9%BB%FA
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Looks like Antipodean increased their price, it's now almost RM32 with GST. Time to look for other budget beans for cheapskates like me brows.gif .
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QUOTE(maxguy @ Jan 11 2016, 01:58 PM)
thanks for the link, those prices look nice!
my chinese is rubbish, it would be difficult for me to navigate taobao and find these kind of stuff
any idea how long it takes to reach Malaysia and the shipping cost?
won't we get taxed?

damnit, might buy some coffee stuff instead of that new pc upgrade I was saving for sweat.gif
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QUOTE(rockets @ Jan 11 2016, 02:15 PM)
Looks like Antipodean increased their price, it's now almost RM32 with GST. Time to look for other budget beans for cheapskates like me  brows.gif .
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IKEA beans la. RM12.90 for 250gm.
I notice a balance of Arabica and Robusta in them but i dont know the origin.
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QUOTE(wadthehellz @ Jan 11 2016, 01:51 PM)
any zd-15 grinder seller besides dankoff? emailed them to quote the price but not yet reply, quite interested in zd-15 but not considering get from taobao due to exchange rate and shipping lol  hmm.gif
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cuppa.com.my also selling zd-15
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Peoploids,

Just in case you did not know:

Café Malaysia 2016 will present the largest gathering of coffee and tea industry players to showcase equipment, machinery, accessories and various supplies and products for the perfect one-stop platform for industry professionals. Wake up and smell the abundant business opportunities in the growing regional and international counterparts.

Event details
Venue: MATRADE Exhibition & Convention Centre (MECC), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Date: 14 - 16 January 2016

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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jan 11 2016, 03:39 PM)
cuppa.com.my also selling zd-15
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ohh yea didn't notice that, thanks! rclxms.gif RM66x included gst for zd-15 hmm.gif I got ask from cafe nearby my house area and they selling zd16 for around RM72x include gst. wondering what's the diff between this 2 hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 11 2016, 03:50 PM)
Peoploids,

Just in case you did not know:

Café Malaysia 2016 will present the largest gathering of coffee and tea industry players to showcase equipment, machinery, accessories and various supplies and products for the perfect one-stop platform for industry professionals. Wake up and smell the abundant business opportunities in the growing regional and international counterparts.

Event details
Venue: MATRADE Exhibition & Convention Centre (MECC), Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Date: 14 - 16 January 2016
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Traders & Business visitors shocking.gif what about home user visitor? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(wadthehellz @ Jan 11 2016, 03:52 PM)
ohh yea didn't notice that, thanks! rclxms.gif RM66x included gst for zd-15 hmm.gif  I got ask from cafe nearby my house area and they selling zd16 for around RM72x include gst. wondering what's the diff between this 2 hmm.gif
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Wow. Then pls give address of this cafe, cos zd16 is better than zd15.
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QUOTE(wadthehellz @ Jan 11 2016, 04:05 PM)
Traders & Business visitors  shocking.gif what about home user visitor?  rclxub.gif
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Thursday & Friday are for trade visitors; Saturday is for anyone.


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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jan 11 2016, 04:08 PM)
Wow. Then pls give address of this cafe, cos zd16 is better than zd15.
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I asked through FB only the cafe's FB page New Black . Btw, just called dankoff and they carrying zd-15 for RM599 and zd-16 for Rm699 exclude GST. So after gst it's the same price with the cafe i asked. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 11 2016, 04:09 PM)
Thursday & Friday are for trade visitors; Saturday is for anyone.
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ohh okay noted. will go and have a look if free brows.gif
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jan 10 2016, 06:37 PM)
RM10 thermometer from China gotten off Ebay. A little slow but works well enough for water temps
Are you using it for water or milk?
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Water. Are you sure those cheap thermometers are accurate? From what i have heard, even the cheap IKEA water thermometer are horribly inaccurate. Btw i'm currently using my meat thermometer that cost around RM80 but i'm afraid of ruining it.

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Jan 11 2016, 01:42 PM)
Just check KD-310 and I think it is out of my budget, Kd210 alone already cost me 2.5K, they will free their ZD-10 coffee grinder, I will use that temporarily before I have enough money to get baratza preciso. Or is there any wpm coffee grinder that is on par with preciso?

baratza preciso also getting from taobao ?
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Why baratza precisco? Just use it till you have $$ for a better grinder

Get one of these and you don't have to upgrade grinder
https://www.chriscoffee.com/MACAP-M4-Espres...er-p/m4c18r.htm

Or buy online from below for little more they last forever plus no need to consider upgrade
https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/index.ph...=78_246_271_275
http://www.espressoservices.co.uk/fiorenza...no_grinder.html

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anyone tried Seesaw bean from taobao before? was recommended by my friend.
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I can't believe my eyes! http://www.lazada.com.my/breville-bcg820-s...ro-8237553.html RM229 for a BCG820 smart grinder pro, i think missing 1 infront rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(wadthehellz @ Jan 11 2016, 10:45 PM)
I can't believe my eyes! http://www.lazada.com.my/breville-bcg820-s...ro-8237553.html  RM229 for a BCG820 smart grinder pro, i think missing 1 infront  rclxub.gif
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Yes!!! Missing 1.

Did you go try and buy?
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Yes!!! Missing 1.

Did you go try and buy?
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yea try bought 1! hope it ships come then i no need buy my zd-16 dy LOL dreaming rclxub.gif
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yea try bought 1! hope it ships come then i no need buy my zd-16 dy LOL dreaming rclxub.gif
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Wish you luck bro...nothing to lose biggrin.gif
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yea try bought 1! hope it ships come then i no need buy my zd-16 dy LOL dreaming rclxub.gif
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Not there anymore! Hope they honour their advert & give it to you at the earlier price.....
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 11 2016, 11:04 PM)
Wish you luck bro...nothing to lose biggrin.gif
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Yea thanks rclxms.gif


QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 11 2016, 11:28 PM)
Not there anymore! Hope they honour their advert &  give it to you at the earlier price.....
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Yea they removed the link shakehead.gif yea I also hope they will do that rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wadthehellz @ Jan 11 2016, 11:46 PM)
Yea thanks  rclxms.gif
Yea they removed the link  shakehead.gif yea I also hope they will do that rclxms.gif
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I did it on a Poemia once. It was RM88 on Lazada.
Next day they cancelled my order without notice. Called up their service number and they just give me the excuse of "Out of stock, but feel free to buy from another seller if you like" mad.gif
I hope you get it this time though bro thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wadthehellz @ Jan 11 2016, 05:30 PM)
I asked through FB only the cafe's FB page New Black . Btw, just called dankoff and they carrying zd-15 for RM599 and zd-16 for Rm699 exclude GST. So after gst it's the same price with the cafe i asked.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the info. Will definitely have to consider those two grinders.
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jan 12 2016, 09:53 AM)
I did it on a Poemia once. It was RM88 on Lazada.
Next day they cancelled my order without notice. Called up their service number and they just give me the excuse of "Out of stock, but feel free to buy from another seller if you like"  mad.gif
I hope you get it this time though bro  thumbup.gif
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wah like that really less chance dy hahah. thanks thanks

QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jan 12 2016, 11:03 AM)
Thanks for the info. Will definitely have to consider those two grinders.
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Sure sure, but the cafe one told me the price will increase after cny shakehead.gif
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WELHOME ZD-15 for sale, used less than 3months, local warranty 9 months+.

REASON: upgrade

COD Area: IKEA PJ

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WELHOME ZD-15 for sale, used less than 3months, local warranty 9 months+.

REASON: upgrade

COD Area: IKEA PJ
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Hi everybody, I am new here. I use Nespresso and its pods.

Recently bought another machine to put in the office. Bought in London and brought it back home to Singapore.

The flagship store in London is very cool. Got this cute machine, and my kids had a lot of fun making the Nespresso machines spin!



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Hi fellow coffee lovers,

Been struggling with GERD for almost 3 years now. Wife and doc advice to stop coffee completely for now until I fully recover.
Had some discussion with wife, and she think its best I let it go completely. cry.gif So it's with a heavy heart I'm letting go my Breville Home Barista Set:

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I've posted the WTS at garage: WTS: Breville Espresso Set

If you are interested, drop me a PM. Cheers.

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QUOTE(Castreal @ Jan 16 2016, 01:35 AM)
Hi fellow coffee lovers,

Been struggling with GERD for almost 3 years now. Wife and doc advice to stop coffee completely for now until I fully recover.
Had some discussion with wife, and she think its best I let it go completely.  cry.gif So it's with a heavy heart I'm letting go my Breville Home Barista Set:
Sad to hear that bro, from one coffee lover to another. Hope your machines find themselves a good owner. I see a very well maintained setup. Good luck with the sales as well as your health
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Hey i've recently wanted to try some Ethiopian Yirgacheffe beans. Anybody can recommend me a good local roaster of this variety?
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Hey i've recently wanted to try some Ethiopian Yirgacheffe beans. Anybody can recommend me a good local roaster of this variety?
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Check-out Nescafe red cup coffee machine, it is suitable for home and small office and best lagi no need to buy capsule.

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A spoon can do the job why a machine to make instant coffee?
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No good news from lazada, my order just got cancelled due to no response from merchant =(
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Coffee beans are exempted from GST right?
Btw, how fast do you guys normally finish your 250g/500g/1Kg beans?

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Coffee beans are exempted from GST right?
Btw, how fast do you guys normally finish your 250g/500g/1Kg beans?
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250g sometimes 1 week sometimes around 2week sweat.gif
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250g sometimes 1 week sometimes around 2week  sweat.gif
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That's quite fast. My 500g can last me about 2 months.
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That's quite fast. My 500g can last me about 2 months.
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Hey i've recently wanted to try some Ethiopian Yirgacheffe beans. Anybody can recommend me a good local roaster of this variety?
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 19 2016, 10:18 AM)
Coffee beans are exempted from GST right?
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At 14gm per cup, 500gm gives 35 doses. At 3 cups a day, that's about 12 days... just in time before the beans go stale.


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Coffee beans are exempted from GST right?
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GST says coffee powder is exempted, did not mention beans. Most people don't change.

250g...average 5 days Max finished.
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Yes you are right... thumbup.gif

Most people don't do this, but simply by boiling freshly drawn water each time you want to make coffee makes a huge difference to the taste.
This machine can heat up the water from room temperature to the right temperature for a cup of coffee in 40sec.
The best coffee taste can be had when you use water that has not quite reached boiling point.

Learn to enjoy a cup of instant coffee and enjoy your daily lifestyle.
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You have only one point which is water close to boiling temperature is most suited for coffee and i believe most if not all the members in here knows it already.
I think what we want to know is what makes the machine so special other than reheating the water just for instant coffee?
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You have only one point which is water close to boiling temperature is most suited for coffee and i believe most if not all the members in here knows it already.
I think what we want to know is what makes the machine so special other than reheating the water just for instant coffee?
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Spot on bro. Along the same lines, a temp controlled kettle like the bonavita/buono is even better cos you could do pourovers too after a while
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Hi everyone, im new here smile.gif
been using delonghi ec155 with krups gvx2 for almost 2 years. Thinking to upgrade for both of it and i need some advice from sifu here.
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Coffee beans are exempted from GST right?
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300gm every 1 week or less.

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QUOTE(wanglc @ Jan 19 2016, 01:08 PM)
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Yes you are right... thumbup.gif

Most people don't do this, but simply by boiling freshly drawn water each time you want to make coffee makes a huge difference to the taste.
This machine can heat up the water from room temperature to the right temperature for a cup of coffee in 40sec.
The best coffee taste can be had when you use water that has not quite reached boiling point.

Learn to enjoy a cup of instant coffee and enjoy your daily lifestyle.
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not a commercial unit why the focus on 40secs? the instant factor?
best tasting coffee isn't instant.

for 448RM entry level nespresso does the job better, pods also better quality than instant as a premium.
no offense get a moka pot or pour over cheaper and better tasting coffee.

http://www.graciasonlinestore.com/coffee-m...ct-1345054.html
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not a commercial unit why the focus on 40secs? the instant factor?
best tasting coffee isn't instant.

for 448RM entry level nespresso does the job better, pods also better quality than instant as a premium.
no offense get a moka pot or pour over cheaper and better tasting coffee.

http://www.graciasonlinestore.com/coffee-m...ct-1345054.html
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Hi everyone, im new here smile.gif
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Welcome!
Upgrade in which direction? I assume espresso right? Budget?
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Welcome!
Upgrade in which direction? I assume espresso right? Budget?
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budget budget? rclxms.gif
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Just got a batch of beans from LeBistro Coffee

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According to their website, "As its name implies, LeBistro Freshly Roasted Beans are only roasted upon order and customers typically receive the coffee within 3 days after roasting. The coffee beans are professionally roasted in micro batches using the Diedrich Roaster imported from the United States, with the roasting time and temperature carefully adjusted for each batch to create a consistently perfect roast. After roasting, the beans are packed in one way valve bags and immediately shipped to the customers."

I placed my order on 11 January, and according to the label, they really did roast it on order and shipped it the next day!! However, they send via regular POS Malaysia package mail, so it took 4 days to arrive.... still crazy fresh!!

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Pulled 3 shots yesterday.... very very pleasant. I'm not a super sophisticated coffee geek, so can't analyse the taste, but everyone in my home appreciates it. Crema on the Poemia was also very nice.

And the kicker? Only RM36 for 500gm ... no delivery charges for even a single bag order!

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budget budget? rclxms.gif
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yup espresso. i love latte smile.gif
upgrade to something like eureka mignon and ns oscar. around that budget.
is that good?

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How i wish i could get an espresso but due to budget and space constraint, i can't.
Have to enjoy my French Press & Moka Pot for now. biggrin.gif

Heck, even in office i cant make coffee using fresh milk and have to resort using condensed milk because there's no fridge and the pantry's super far.

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QUOTE(PegasuS87 @ Jan 20 2016, 02:27 PM)
yup espresso. i love latte smile.gif
upgrade to something like eureka mignon and ns oscar. around that budget.
is that good?
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I like the way you think! Go for it
But since you are ready to splurge on a good grinder, the latest comparison by socraticcoffee is showing that the SmartGrinder is a serious performer even when placed next to the coveted Malkhonig EK43

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This is a comparison done on espresso level grind settings. Just look at that particle distribution curve for uniformality

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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jan 20 2016, 03:17 PM)
I like the way you think! Go for it
But since you are ready to splurge on a good grinder, the latest comparison by socraticcoffee is showing that the SmartGrinder is a serious performer even when placed next to the coveted Malkhonig EK43

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This is a comparison done on espresso level grind settings. Just look at that particle distribution curve for uniformality
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sry i dont really understand the graph, it shows the smart grinder was the best?
is it durable compare with mechanical machine?
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sry i dont really understand the graph, it shows the smart grinder was the best?
is it durable compare with mechanical machine?
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It's more on consistency of grind. The graph can be a good indication of uniformity but we don't know how it will perform across different grind settings
As for durability, commercial grinders would probably outlast it since there's still plastic parts within the grinder. But the cost is 10x difference
You are looking at home use or cafe?
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jan 20 2016, 03:59 PM)
It's more on consistency of grind. The graph can be a good indication of uniformity but we don't know how it will perform across different grind settings
As for durability, commercial grinders would probably outlast it since there's still plastic parts within the grinder. But the cost is 10x difference
You are looking at home use or cafe?
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home use ....hek hek hek ~
i was hoping that this upgrade would last for at least 3 to 5years....so durability is my main concern
is it possible for this price range? ohmy.gif
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yup espresso. i love latte smile.gif
upgrade to something like eureka mignon and ns oscar. around that budget.
is that good?
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NS recently launched the NS Oscar II. Do check it out, its really quite an update from the old Oscar.

Dankoff should be carrying them, but I think it only starts selling in Europe end of Jan 2016, so not sure when it will reach our shores.

As for Breville Smart Grinder, I've been using the older version BCG800, seems to be quite consistent and easy to use.

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home use ....hek hek hek ~
i was hoping that this upgrade would last for at least 3 to 5years....so durability is my main concern
is it possible for this price range? ohmy.gif
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If you're a 1-2 cup a day person, it will easily outlast that duration thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 20 2016, 03:15 PM)
How i wish i could get an espresso but due to budget and space constraint, i can't.
Have to enjoy my French Press & Moka Pot for now. biggrin.gif

Heck, even in office i cant make coffee using fresh milk and have to resort using condensed milk because there's no fridge and the pantry's super far.
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You MUST try Aeropress.... it is still my favourite method anywhere outside home. Super convenient, makes really really good coffee, easy to clean up, very forgiving in terms of technique, one of the cheapest .... At my wife's office, I can even brew at her cubicle (cleanup at the pantry of course); just that the two minutes on the Hario Skerton attracts some attention! That, and the wonderful aroma..... !!

For milk, try the packet UHT milk... full cream seems better than the "fresh" type, IMHO. No need to refrigerate, the small packet makes about 2 decent lattes.
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 20 2016, 05:26 PM)
You MUST try Aeropress.... it is still my favourite method anywhere outside home. Super convenient, makes really really good coffee, easy to clean up, very forgiving in terms of technique, one of the cheapest .... At my wife's office, I can even brew at her cubicle (cleanup at the pantry of course); just that the two minutes on the Hario Skerton attracts some attention! That, and the wonderful aroma..... !!

For milk, try the packet UHT milk... full cream seems better than the "fresh" type, IMHO. No need to refrigerate, the small packet makes about 2 decent lattes.
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I did consider an Aeropress before but i like my coffee with some "dirt" and residue in it. I feel im getting a bolder taste (without filter medium) and that's why i opted for both the Moka Pot and French Press.

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 20 2016, 05:49 PM)
I did consider an Aeropress before but i like my coffee with some "dirt" and residue in it. I feel im getting a bolder taste (without filter medium) and that's why i opted for both the Moka Pot and French Press.
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Aeropress with a metal filter can also get you that
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QUOTE(Castreal @ Jan 20 2016, 04:31 PM)
NS recently launched the NS Oscar II. Do check it out, its really quite an update from the old Oscar.

Dankoff should be carrying them, but I think it only starts selling in Europe end of Jan 2016, so not sure when it will reach our shores.

As for Breville Smart Grinder, I've been using the older version BCG800, seems to be quite consistent and easy to use.
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beautiful machine !!! thumbup.gif
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Exactly! When it launched in Italy, I immediately messaged Dankoff when will it be available... but he has no firm dates then.
It's a complete changeover... talking bout VW Beetle > Chevrolet Camaro level Bumblebee!
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QUOTE(Castreal @ Jan 20 2016, 07:14 PM)
Exactly! When it launched in Italy, I immediately messaged Dankoff when will it be available... but he has no firm dates then.
It's a complete changeover... talking bout VW Beetle > Chevrolet Camaro level Bumblebee!
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Now really looks like stripped down Musica inside and out biggrin.gif

Well...outside at least...dunno what's been done inside.

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Hi,

Since I have seen so many members here talking about freshness of the roasted beans, how about doing home roasting?

Wondering anyone here has ventured into roasting green beans? Like using Gene Cafe roaster or other brand? Or even using a pop corn maker to roast like I saw on YouTube. Btw, where to buy green beans?
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Quite sure he/she is seller promoting lah... biggrin.gif dats why I see one eye...
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I get dude is promoting the product he or she selling.
I just like to highlight its black not white...
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I like coffee that sell in ordinary kopitiam. But 1 particular shop that sell kopi ais, they blend it after mixing it with coffee and susu pekat. It makes the coffee looks nice as it have extra bubble on top.

On side note, if anyone happen to been to a small place in called Selama, Kedah/Perak. There is a shop call selama cafe that have a good kopi ais. Second generation of kopi bancuh
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QUOTE(Castreal @ Jan 20 2016, 07:14 PM)
Exactly! When it launched in Italy, I immediately messaged Dankoff when will it be available... but he has no firm dates then.
It's a complete changeover... talking bout VW Beetle > Chevrolet Camaro level Bumblebee!
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u are interested on it as well..hoho
what machine u using now ?

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Hi,

Since I have seen so many members here talking about freshness of the roasted beans, how about doing home roasting?

Wondering anyone here has ventured into roasting green beans? Like using Gene Cafe roaster or other brand? Or even using a pop corn maker to roast like I saw on YouTube. Btw, where to buy green beans?
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Finally! Someone interested in the same thing, and asking the same question!

I've been interested in trying out some home roasting as well; not quite using a popcorn maker but to use one of those halogen turbo ovens sitting on a simple motorised stirrer.

But the big problem seems to be getting the green beans! It seems such raw coffee beans can only be imported into Malaysia with an AP (another crony enriching mechanism) so getting them direct from Sweet Maria's is out. I have found a couple of importers but they all do only wholesale... so unless I commit to at least many kilos of beans they are not interested.

I have raised this topic on this forum before, with zero responses. Perhaps we can raise some interest and if we find a few more like-minded individuals we can buy a sack of beams to experiment....
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QUOTE(sabahan62 @ Jan 20 2016, 08:47 PM)
Hi,

Since I have seen so many members here talking about freshness of the roasted beans, how about doing home roasting?

Wondering anyone here has ventured into roasting green beans? Like using Gene Cafe roaster or other brand? Or even using a pop corn maker to roast like I saw on YouTube. Btw, where to buy green beans?
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coffee needs to degas for few days to achieve its peak after roasting.
store bought roasted on 21st Jan 2016 and home roasted on same day not going to make yours any fresher. Home roasting you can nail down the time its roasted but I yet to come across studies that 1hr diff makes great diff.

home roasting makes sense if one cannot get access to "fresh" beans by that I mean beans that have degassed for over few days. many tried to consume their beans with 14-15 days after their roast date.

many times home roasters is doing it out of passion more so than freshness of beans.
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 21 2016, 02:54 AM)
coffee needs to degas for few days to achieve its peak after roasting.
store bought roasted on 21st Jan 2016 and home roasted on same day not going to make yours any fresher. Home roasting you can nail down the time its roasted but I yet to come across studies that 1hr diff makes great diff.

home roasting makes sense if one cannot get access to "fresh" beans by that I mean beans that have degassed for over few days. many tried to consume their beans with 14-15 days after their roast date.

many times home roasters is doing it out of passion more so than freshness of beans.
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You forget two other factors.... control & cost.

If you control the roast, you can try out different roast profiles using the same beans. It would be nice/interesting to try out different profiles to see what suits your personal preference instead of the roasters. The other thing you can control is the blend since most green beans are effectively single origin when purchased.

The other factor is the cost. Getting consistently freshly roasted beans in turn mean two things: premium services and small quantities. Premium services because not all coffee beans sources cater for aficionados ; eg all regular store-bought beans from supermarkets don't have roasted - on dates. Small quantities because unless you are a heavy consistent coffee drinker (or pull shots for more than one person like I do) it is difficult to finish a large bag before the tail end gets stale. Therefore, small bags. Small, frequent and fast supply means high transport costs.

Both these factors mean substantially higher prices. Roasting at home means you can guarantee freshness by roasting exactly what you consume, exactly when you want/need it, exactly how you like it. You buy green beans in bulk (by the kilo) as they can keep easily for 6 months to a year without significant degradation. You aren't paying some courier company RM 6 every 2 weeks to move a paltry 125gm or 250gm bag a few km, or the parking fees/petrol/car maintenance costs incurred when you drive to the few stores that stock beans with Roast by dates.

Thus ends my geek rant....
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How do you guys plan to roast the beans? I know of heating them until they caramelize till they pop in the frying pan but this will cause inconsistent color.
Btw, i just got my Brazilian coffee and im loving it!
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QUOTE(sabahan62 @ Jan 20 2016, 08:47 PM)
Hi,

Since I have seen so many members here talking about freshness of the roasted beans, how about doing home roasting?

Wondering anyone here has ventured into roasting green beans? Like using Gene Cafe roaster or other brand? Or even using a pop corn maker to roast like I saw on YouTube. Btw, where to buy green beans?
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Wow, lots of interested roasters. Good to see the direction that Malaysians are heading to in specialty coffee
I'm actually a home roaster that started with a popcorn popper, moved to a Gene Cafe and now have a proper commercial drum roaster on the way. Overall I've been roasting for almost 2 years now.
I have a thread here on Lowyat offering roast on demand beans to help sustain my hobby/learning/potential career change biggrin.gif . Don't want to pollute this thread with sales, PM me separately if you're interested or questions

Anyways, Gene Cafe is a decent home roaster to start with but the main heartburn is the lack of thermal logging to allow you to properly profile your roasts. This influences consistency and makes it more trial/error to recover a bad roast (underdevelopment, overroasting). However, it's not too costly as a start on your journey to learn about real coffee roasting
As for green beans, there's no actual way around things. AP is the ugly monster that continues to want to block your way. Without one, I mostly get from eBay and also SweetMarias when friends or family travel but it's not getting very economical now with the USD rate as well as the measly quantities you can bring in (too much and customs is going to get alerted)


QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 20 2016, 11:09 PM)
Finally! Someone interested in the same thing, and asking the same question!

I've been interested in trying out some home roasting as well; not quite using a popcorn maker but to use one of those halogen turbo ovens sitting on a simple motorised stirrer.

But the big problem seems to be getting the green beans! It seems such raw coffee beans can only be imported into Malaysia with an AP (another crony enriching mechanism) so getting them direct from Sweet Maria's is out. I have found a couple of importers but they all do only wholesale... so unless I commit to at least many kilos of beans they are not interested.

I have raised this topic on this forum before, with zero responses.  Perhaps we can raise some interest and if we find a few more like-minded individuals we can buy a sack of beams to experiment....
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If you have found a local importer willing to sell in bulk I don't mind sharing
Halogen turbo ovens may work well but make sure you can hit 250C and you might want to figure out how much thermal energy is available - that influences what is the quantity you can roast per batch

QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 21 2016, 09:00 AM)
How do you guys plan to roast the beans? I know of heating them until they caramelize till they pop in the frying pan but this will cause inconsistent color.
Btw, i just got my Brazilian coffee and im loving it!
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The pan method is pure conduction heat. In this case, lots of agitation is require to make sure there's no burnt spots. Also, you may risk hitting first crack fast and the outer layer roasting too quickly compared to the inside. This can cause very bad under-development and gives you a grassy/herby taste to your roast. Development is very important for sweetness especially for espressos
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You forget two other factors.... control & cost.

If you control the roast, you can try out different roast profiles using the same beans. It would be nice/interesting to try out different profiles to see what suits your personal preference instead of the roasters. The other thing you can control is the blend since most green beans are effectively single origin when purchased.

The other factor is the cost. Getting consistently freshly roasted beans in turn mean two things: premium services and small quantities. Premium services because not all coffee beans sources cater for aficionados ; eg all regular store-bought beans from supermarkets don't have roasted - on dates. Small quantities because unless you are a heavy consistent coffee drinker (or pull shots for more than one person like I do)  it is difficult to finish a large bag before the tail end gets stale. Therefore, small bags.  Small, frequent and fast supply means high transport costs. 

Both these factors mean substantially higher prices. Roasting at home means you can guarantee freshness by roasting exactly what you consume, exactly when you want/need it,  exactly how you like it.  You buy green beans in bulk (by the kilo) as they can keep easily for 6 months to a year without significant degradation. You aren't paying some courier company RM 6 every 2 weeks to move a paltry 125gm or 250gm bag a few km, or the parking fees/petrol/car maintenance costs incurred when you drive to the few stores that stock beans with Roast by dates.

Thus ends my geek rant....
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Too bad I have access to place where I can blend my own beans (over 30 kinds of greens) and control roast temp to try out different profile. Then again quality of beans may not be as good as those single origin sourced by say Intelligensia. Transport cost not much as its like 5 min drive away or 20 min walk.

Even I don't do so I can get shipment in free of charge thanx to the country I am in, roast dates on those just under 3 days usually. Hard to control even if i do roasting, new job last min travel plan screw up consumption rate. If one can discern the taste between 7 day old vs 4 day old great, otherwise it's more psychological.

There are pros but what you stated seems like a stretch.

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Too bad I have access to place where I can blend my own beans (over 30 kinds of greens) and control roast temp to try out different profile. Then again quality of beans may not be as good as those single origin sourced by say Intelligensia.

Even I don't do so I can get shipment in free of charge thanx to the country I am in. Hard to control even if i do roasting, new job last min travel plan screw up consumption rate. If one can discern the taste between 7 day old vs 4 day old great, otherwise it's more psychological.

There are pros but what you stated seems like a stretch.
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Nice! What beans are you drinking today?
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 21 2016, 09:46 AM)
Too bad I have access to place where I can blend my own beans (over 30 kinds of greens) and control roast temp to try out different profile. Then again quality of beans may not be as good as those single origin sourced by say Intelligensia. Transport cost not much as its like 5 min drive away or 20 min walk.

Even I don't do so I can get shipment in free of charge thanx to the country I am in, roast dates on those just under 3 days usually. Hard to control even if i do roasting, new job last min travel plan screw up consumption rate. If one can discern the taste between 7 day old vs 4 day old great, otherwise it's more psychological.

There are pros but what you stated seems like a stretch.
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Not "too bad" but "d*mn lucky". You must admit your circumstances do not represent the vast majority of us coffee geeks. If getting good roasted coffee was so easy I doubt I would consider home roasting (.... well, maybe still).

Seems this discussion has brought out someone who has begun this journey a while ago. That's a huge plus.....
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guys, anyone using the breville bes810 & breville grinder (I forgot its name)

used to drink dripped coffee but would like to try learning espresso stuff but don't have much money to spend. I know good grinder cost much & I don't wanna risk myself buying overseas as I am really poor in machine... malas fix sendiri if got problem tongue.gif

aske in Harvey Norman,,, can get both around 3k if bundle... so curios to try now but wonder the quality smile.gif
Besides, is 1 year warranty enough for espresso machine? There is an option for EW too

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u are interested on it as well..hoho
what machine u using now ?
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Was interested back when it was launched...
Am using Breville now, but have to temporarily give up coffee, posted my setup here for sale:

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WTS Breville Espresso Set

Perhaps when my condition gets better, hopefully within a year's time, I can convince my wife on the OscarII.

That said, still having doubts selling off my Breville. I've done some survey in my neighbourhood forum, seems like quite a number of people interested on "take-away"/ Grab and Go Espresso based drinks... could turn it into small business instead of getting rid of the machine cause I can't drink.
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QUOTE(Castreal @ Jan 21 2016, 12:14 PM)
Was interested back when it was launched...
Am using Breville now, but have to temporarily give up coffee, posted my setup here for sale:

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WTS Breville Espresso Set

Perhaps when my condition gets better, hopefully within a year's time, I can convince my wife on the OscarII.

That said, still having doubts selling off my Breville. I've done some survey in my neighbourhood forum, seems like quite a number of people interested on "take-away"/ Grab and Go Espresso based drinks... could turn it into small business instead of getting rid of the machine cause I can't drink.
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Good idea. Some popup markets would be good places to setup too
Or even a coffee truck!
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Hello Guys, I am new here, never know lowyat forum have such an active coffee thread. Any recommendation low budget decent espresso machine + electric grinder?
Total budget around 4k.

Thanks.
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Hello Guys, I am new here, never know lowyat forum have such an active coffee thread. Any recommendation low budget decent espresso machine + electric grinder?
Total budget around 4k.

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Try the version 1 thread, buy on taobao get Chinese brand or buy used here.

I repost Tikietic stuff here, he went Chinese route
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3830783

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Try the version 1 thread, buy on taobao get Chinese brand or buy used here.

I repost Tikietic stuff here, he went Chinese route
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3830783
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I know China people like to use Milesto M2, so is it same here?
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I know China people like to use Milesto M2, so is it same here?
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QUOTE(user5092 @ Jan 21 2016, 04:25 PM)
Hello Guys, I am new here, never know lowyat forum have such an active coffee thread. Any recommendation low budget decent espresso machine + electric grinder?
Total budget around 4k.

Thanks.
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Simonelli Oscar plus ZD 16. This is my current setup. Im using it for past 9 months & they are still good for my every morning latte.
Attached Image this is old photo taken july last year, newbie photo
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 22 2016, 09:56 AM)
Simonelli Oscar plus ZD 16. This is my current setup. Im using it for past 9 months & they are still good for my every morning latte.
Attached Image this is old photo taken july last year, newbie photo
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Getting my own Oscar sooooon....can't wait!
Have you checked your pressure before? Is it @ 15bars and did you do any OPV mods to bring down to 9bars?
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 22 2016, 09:56 AM)
Simonelli Oscar plus ZD 16. This is my current setup. Im using it for past 9 months & they are still good for my every morning latte.
Attached Image this is old photo taken july last year, newbie photo
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Thanks for your advice, where you get your ZD-16 and Oscar? How much it cost?
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Getting my own Oscar sooooon....can't wait!
Have you checked your pressure before? Is it @ 15bars and did you do any OPV mods to bring down to 9bars?
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Oscar II? or the classic Oscar?
Was really close to buying the classic Oscar, just that the ABS Bodywork seemed too plasticky for me, not shiny enough tongue.gif
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Getting my own Oscar sooooon....can't wait!
Have you checked your pressure before? Is it @ 15bars and did you do any OPV mods to bring down to 9bars?
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I just live with stock setting. I dont modifiy it. Do u have the tool to check the pressure?
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Thanks for your advice, where you get your ZD-16 and Oscar? How much it cost?
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Oscar i bought from lighthouse coffee near sg pinang, penang. Im staying in penang. Cost rm 3.6k b4 gst with free gift, pitcher, thermometer, tamper, 2 espresso cups, knock box. ZD-16 i bought from taobao, small box sea freight, less than rm500 if not mistake.
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 22 2016, 12:16 PM)
Oscar i bought from lighthouse coffee near sg pinang, penang. Im staying in penang. Cost rm 3.6k b4 gst with free gift, pitcher, thermometer, tamper, 2 espresso cups, knock box. ZD-16 i bought from taobao, small box sea freight, less than rm500 if not mistake.
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Can you share how you buy things on Taobao? Normally I am asking "middle man" buy for me, but they charge like 0.8 * taobao selling price in RMB + around RM 15/kg for sea freight, is it what it suppose to be?

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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 22 2016, 12:16 PM)
Oscar i bought from lighthouse coffee near sg pinang, penang. Im staying in penang. Cost rm 3.6k b4 gst with free gift, pitcher, thermometer, tamper, 2 espresso cups, knock box. ZD-16 i bought from taobao, small box sea freight, less than rm500 if not mistake.
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your ZD-16 retention will serious or not? like the ground stucked at the hole in the machine. I need to slap my ZD-15 many times then only the stucked ground will drop out from the output hole sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Can you share how you buy things on Taobao? Normally I am asking "middle man" buy for me, but they charge like 0.8 * taobao selling price in RMB + around RM 15/kg for sea freight, is it what it suppose to be?
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I often buy things from taobao, use bank transfer to pay directly when checkout from taobao, use shipping agent like MYPOSTONLINE and ship the things i buy to their warehouse then use parcel forward to Malaysia also around RM15/kg for air freight. Can save alot from middle man sweat.gif
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 22 2016, 12:16 PM)
Oscar i bought from lighthouse coffee near sg pinang, penang. Im staying in penang. Cost rm 3.6k b4 gst with free gift, pitcher, thermometer, tamper, 2 espresso cups, knock box. ZD-16 i bought from taobao, small box sea freight, less than rm500 if not mistake.
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halo smile.gif im from penang too.
was plan to get a oscar, but i was told that oscar II coming soon . seems like have to wait shakehead.gif

other than lighthouse ,anywhere at penang can get coffee equipment? so far i know is only maccalum, and they quote me eureka mignon rm1650 and wpm zd-17 rm1020.
totally no idea that was a good price or not due to no place else i can compare with. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Castreal @ Jan 21 2016, 12:14 PM)
Was interested back when it was launched...
Am using Breville now, but have to temporarily give up coffee, posted my setup here for sale:


WTS Breville Espresso Set

Perhaps when my condition gets better, hopefully within a year's time, I can convince my wife on the OscarII.

That said, still having doubts selling off my Breville. I've done some survey in my neighbourhood forum, seems like quite a number of people interested on "take-away"/ Grab and Go Espresso based drinks... could turn it into small business instead of getting rid of the machine cause I can't drink.
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breville machine really well designed thumbup.gif
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halo smile.gif im from penang too.
was plan to get a oscar, but i was told that oscar II coming soon . seems like have to wait  shakehead.gif

other than lighthouse ,anywhere at penang can get coffee equipment? so far i know is only maccalum, and they quote me eureka mignon rm1650 and wpm zd-17 rm1020.
totally no idea that was a good price or not due to no place else i can compare with. rclxub.gif
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Yup, limited place for equipment here. Have u tried lighthouse? I plan to get compak grinder from overseas during next holidays traveling.

If budget is not issue, then u can wait for oscar II. It looks expensive

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your ZD-16 retention will serious or not? like the ground stucked at the hole in the machine. I need to slap my ZD-15 many times then only the stucked ground will drop out from the output hole  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I dint go to check how much retention. It wont clog the out flow even after 1-2kg beans volume load
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I dint go to check how much retention. It wont clog the out flow even after 1-2kg beans volume load
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ahh i see, mine also wont clog just after grind I slap the machine still will have alot of ground drop out from the hole and I went to dismantle it fuhhh the ground stuck in there quite a lot sweat.gif
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 22 2016, 05:28 PM)
Yup, limited place for equipment here. Have u tried lighthouse? I plan to get compak grinder from overseas during next holidays traveling.

If budget is not issue, then u can wait for oscar II. It looks expensive
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Not yet . Where it locate?
Yeah it does. But have to wait for oscarII anyway, mayb ada discount for old 1? Or mayb it says "im looks expensive, but im not actually" drool.gif drool.gif

p/s : budget is big issue for me. yawn.gif

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Not yet . Where it locate?
Yeah it does. But have to wait for oscarII anyway, mayb ada discount for old 1? Or mayb it says "im looks expensive, but im not actually"  drool.gif  drool.gif

p/s : budget is big issue for me. yawn.gif
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From what I see in Elektros Italian Website, the price increment seems to be small rclxm9.gif

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From what I see in Elektros Italian Website, the price increment seems to be small  rclxm9.gif

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wow... drool.gif drool.gif

And it stated comes with anti vacuum valve, dont know whether can mod opv like previous version or not.
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QUOTE(PegasuS87 @ Jan 23 2016, 07:29 PM)
wow...   drool.gif  drool.gif

And it stated comes with anti vacuum valve, dont know whether can mod opv like previous version or not.
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The price gap here is wider. Need to add shipping cost to really know. Some place make up the numbers with shipping and handling
https://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/products.php?cat=115

Interestingly that Italian 1st priced at eur$525 now up eur$100. Not release yet prices estimate only??
http://www.home-barista.com/advice/why-no-...-t39255-10.html

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QUOTE(PegasuS87 @ Jan 23 2016, 07:29 PM)
wow...  drool.gif  drool.gif

And it stated comes with anti vacuum valve, dont know whether can mod opv like previous version or not.
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Isn't the antivac more of a convenience feature rather than performance? It's so that you can turn on the machine and walk away versus having to purge the steam to get the boiler to actual real brew temp?
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Isn't the antivac more of a convenience feature rather than performance? It's so that you can turn on the machine and walk away versus having to purge the steam to get the boiler to actual real brew temp?
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i think so.
i never own a hx machine. from what peoples said, seems like yes.
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Isn't the antivac more of a convenience feature rather than performance? It's so that you can turn on the machine and walk away versus having to purge the steam to get the boiler to actual real brew temp?
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The new oscar ii looks good from picture. Why not u wait for it? Can plan your holidays, mayb australia or europe & bring it in yourself. Haha
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The new oscar ii looks good from picture. Why not u wait for it? Can plan your holidays, mayb australia or europe & bring it in yourself. Haha
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I jumped on the second hand one on Mudah recently. Nice guy the seller so I'm pretty much done haha
Anyhow, hand carry a espresso machine? That would be fun haha
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I jumped on the second hand one on Mudah recently. Nice guy the seller so I'm pretty much done haha
Anyhow, hand carry a espresso machine? That would be fun haha
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How much is the price? Age of machine?

Check in luggage? Haha
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How much is the price? Age of machine?

Check in luggage? Haha
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15kg+ the machine. Check-in possible haha
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Guys, I'm practicing my latte are. Can't seem to froth the milk consistently. Anyway here's a pic of my last attempt.

I'm also not sure the brew time should be after first drip or the moment u press the start button(inclusive of pre infusion time) This shot was made with 10s pre infusion and 30s brew/extraction time. Any thoughts?

Btw this is using a breville machine.

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Guys, I'm practicing my latte are. Can't seem to froth the milk consistently. Anyway here's a pic of my last attempt.

I'm also not sure the brew time should be after first drip or the moment u press the start button(inclusive of pre infusion time) This shot was made with 10s pre infusion and 30s brew/extraction time. Any thoughts?

Btw this is using a breville machine.
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The steam wand enuf power? Im not familiar with breville. Mayb need times to practise. Watch more youtube.

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QUOTE(Bigboyz @ Jan 25 2016, 01:23 PM)
Guys, I'm practicing my latte are. Can't seem to froth the milk consistently. Anyway here's a pic of my last attempt.

I'm also not sure the brew time should be after first drip or the moment u press the start button(inclusive of pre infusion time) This shot was made with 10s pre infusion and 30s brew/extraction time. Any thoughts?

Btw this is using a breville machine.
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Extraction time is from the moment the water hits the coffee. I would say it looks good overall just need some work on the pour

Foam consistency will also affect your latte art. Even if you pour the same way but the thickness of the milk if not the same will give u bad results too
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The steam wand enuf power? Im not familiar with breville. Mayb need times to practise. Watch more youtube.
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The power is so so only. Yah need time to practice. But only so much coffee I can drink a day. Lol
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Extraction time is from the moment the water hits the coffee. I would say it looks good overall just need some work on the pour

Foam consistency will also affect your latte art. Even if you pour the same way but the thickness of the milk if not the same will give u bad results too
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Then I over extracted lio. Pre infusion 10s. Extraction 30s total 40s. But the coffee didn't taste horrible. Maybe I'm biased. Lol.
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Then I over extracted lio. Pre infusion 10s. Extraction 30s total 40s. But the coffee didn't taste horrible. Maybe I'm biased. Lol.
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What's your dosing parameters? single/double?
If you're doing a single shot latte, usually hard to tell if there's any extraction problems. A double shot latte (at least) or straight espresso is best to check on result
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What's your dosing parameters? single/double?
If you're doing a single shot latte, usually hard to tell if there's any extraction problems. A double shot latte (at least) or straight espresso is best to check on result
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I'm using double around 20grams. I normally drink latte probably more forgiving too.
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Guys, any idea where can I get those fancy shot glass with measurement?
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Couple of people are selling on Lelong, but the ones I got from them have mostly
INACCURATE measurements! It may or may not matter to you...
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Guys, any idea where can I get those fancy shot glass with measurement?
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You could try weight measuring of shots instead of volumetric. Also, since the thickness of crema depends on the age of the bean, it can sometimes throw you off
I find a 16g coffee/32g espresso much more balanced and sweet than a 16g coffee/60ml output (i could tweak to pull 55ml but try doing that manually by eye shakehead.gif )

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Couple of people are selling on Lelong, but the ones I got from them have mostly
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Thanks! I'll try looking there. If it's not overpriced I don't mind. Can recalibrate own self
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You could try weight measuring of shots instead of volumetric. Also, since the thickness of crema depends on the age of the bean, it can sometimes throw you off
I find a 16g coffee/32g espresso much more balanced and sweet than a 16g coffee/60ml output (i could tweak to pull 55ml but try doing that manually by eye  shakehead.gif )
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Weight will be precise I guess. But I prefer measuring cup as I can see the volume real time...I would imagine it'll be bitter16g coffee/32g espresso. Gotta try that.
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Guys, any idea where can I get those fancy shot glass with measurement?
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I use a lab glass beaker .... 150ml. Cheap (RM12 each plus delivery charges), strong (heat-resistant borosilicate glass) accurate measurements (if you are targetting where the marks lie), and so very cool. The only thing about the 150ml is that it is slightly too tall for the Poemia, so have to tilt it slightly when putting in under the portafilter... should have gone for the 100ml.
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I use a lab glass beaker .... 150ml. Cheap (RM12 each plus delivery charges), strong (heat-resistant borosilicate glass) accurate measurements (if you are targetting where the marks lie), and so very cool. The only thing about the 150ml is that it is slightly too tall for the Poemia, so have to tilt it slightly when putting in under the portafilter... should have gone for the 100ml.
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Where can i get the French Press filter mesh? I only want the mesh and the hardware shops which i asked dont have it.
Mine's starting to rust because i didnt wipe it dry.
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Where can i get the French Press filter mesh? I only want the mesh and the hardware shops which i asked dont have it.
Mine's starting to rust because i didnt wipe it dry.
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Please share the brand of French Press so that we will *NOT* get it!

I thought all should be pretty much rust-proof; I think Bodum is, at any rate.....
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Weight will be precise I guess. But I prefer measuring cup as I can see the volume real time...I would imagine it'll be bitter16g coffee/32g espresso. Gotta try that.
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Couple of people are selling on Lelong, but the ones I got from them have mostly
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U meant such? How inaccurate? Off by 1ml or 10ml?
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32281291281.html
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32341261060.html

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Whoa! The second link shows Lab Beakers! These won't be off by more than 2 ml or so.

The ones that are off are the ones in the first link, and also those "Tiamo Shot Glasses" : one could be almost spot on, while another could be off by about 5-8 ml - not that much, really, but to someone anal like me, it's just not kosher!

I know because I went and bought 50 ml measuring cylinders, and also 50 ml beakers, did someone mention "anal"? haha

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Whoa! The second link shows Lab Beakers! These won't be off by more than 2 ml or so.

The ones that are off are the ones in the first link, and also those "Tiamo Shot Glasses" : one could be almost spot on, while another could be off by about 5-8 ml - not that much, really, but to someone anal like me, it's just not kosher!

I know because I went and bought 50 ml measuring cylinders, and also 50 ml beakers, did someone mention "anal"? haha
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Poor QC?
U can taste over extraction by 5ml!
You got your mazzer? Prc maybe not be kosher and unfit for anal ppl

Hmm when I free shall check if my 2 shot glass that screw up

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Poor QC?
U can taste over extraction by 5ml!
You got your mazzer? Prc maybe not be kosher and unfit for anal ppl

Hmm when I free shall check if my 2 shot glass that screw up
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Please share the brand of French Press so that we will *NOT* get it!

I thought all should be pretty much rust-proof; I think Bodum is, at any rate.....
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Mine is some cheap China french press only blush.gif unlike you all who have much much deeper pockets..

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Last time I checked, was around 2.5K, from various sellers. Since you asked, I checked cuppa, and they don't have it anymore. Will keep looking, but any leads would be welcome!

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Mine is some cheap China french press only  blush.gif unlike you all who have much much deeper pockets..
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Personally I think this forum is a little too preoccupied with crazy expensive equipment.

As for the French Press, perhaps getting a set from Ikea would be more cost effective than hacking a new mesh. The 1 liter model goes for RM 59 while the 0.4 liter is just RM 27.90. Was just at the Cheras branch... tons of stock.
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Hi guys smile.gif Was looking on facebook for malaysian coffee group or something, but couldn't find. So nice to find this thread on lowyat!

Newbie to coffee here, wanting to learn. Me and my girlfriend want to try to practice coffee brewing at home.. We want something not too expensive, but a reliable and accurate machine to practice properly. So after some research online, we are eyeing on the Nuova Simonelli Musica .

Do you all have any recommended place for us to purchase the Musica, for a good deal/reasonable price (not overpriced) ?
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KL region can try Dankoff, sri kembangan
Penang can try lighthouse, sg pinang
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Personally I think this forum is a little too preoccupied with crazy expensive equipment.

As for the French Press, perhaps getting a set from Ikea would be more cost effective than hacking a new mesh. The 1 liter model goes for RM 59 while the 0.4 liter is just RM 27.90. Was just at the Cheras branch... tons of stock.
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Simple explanation. Most of us are latte or cappuccino lover. I believe latte art also part of the reason. Haha

I do love french press. But i personally prefer milk based coffee. Or mayb i like to see the 25 sec espresso flow xD

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Personally I think this forum is a little too preoccupied with crazy expensive equipment.

As for the French Press, perhaps getting a set from Ikea would be more cost effective than hacking a new mesh. The 1 liter model goes for RM 59 while the 0.4 liter is just RM 27.90. Was just at the Cheras branch... tons of stock.
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No one score the slayer or own a couple 'cheap' londinium or salvatore for collection

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Last time I checked, was around 2.5K, from various sellers. Since you asked, I checked cuppa, and they don't have it anymore. Will keep looking, but any leads would be welcome!
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Compak k3 58mm burr

But online MC6 65mm burr can cost less
https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/index.ph...&product_id=668
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can i have the address for lighthouse?
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Compak k3 58mm burr

But online MC6 65mm burr can cost less
https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/index.ph...&product_id=668
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Thanks for the link. The price sure is tempting, but I would have to be a gambling person to take that plunge: the thought of
shipping a defective machine back to EU is scary. And we don't know yet if the customs guys will decide, on that particular time, of that particular day, when the machine passes their station, if they will drop the axe on the 30 odd %... sweat.gif
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Thanks for the link. The price sure is tempting, but I would have to be a gambling person to take that plunge: the thought of
shipping a defective machine back to EU is scary. And we don't know yet if the customs guys will decide, on that particular time, of that  particular day, when the machine passes their station, if they will drop the axe on the 30 odd %... sweat.gif
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ppl in SG have bought grinder from them no issue.
chances of a defective machine low, very low.
as for customs tax.. 30%?? where did u get the info?

GST/VAT plus import tax is like 12-15%. still cheaper than what u find locally.. of course when they unreasonable 30% is ouch!
http://tariff.customs.gov.my/

from here its just 10%.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/841985


wouldn't ppl getting from taobao be chop here and there.. U just not comfortable buying online. I am kinda used to in my society.. else amazon not seeing crazy market. lol

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Appreciate the reply, luvox! smile.gif Noted on Dankoff.

- What about some other places i found online like CoffeeRitual, Coffex Coffee or cuppa. com.my ?

- Also, is there other similar alternative option, other than the Musica?
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Hi guys smile.gif Was looking on facebook for malaysian coffee group or something, but couldn't find. So nice to find this thread on lowyat!

Newbie to coffee here, wanting to learn. Me and my girlfriend want to try to practice coffee brewing at home.. We want something not too expensive, but a reliable and accurate machine to practice properly. So after some research online, we are eyeing on the Nuova Simonelli Musica .

Do you all have any recommended place for us to purchase the Musica, for a good deal/reasonable price (not overpriced) ?
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Musica not cheap iirc, EU pricing very attractive. Looked at other options? Don't forget u still need a good Grinder.. What you have in mind now?
http://www.finecoffeecompany.com/product-c...resso-machines/
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QUOTE(27needles @ Jan 27 2016, 06:07 PM)
Hi guys smile.gif Was looking on facebook for malaysian coffee group or something, but couldn't find. So nice to find this thread on lowyat!

Newbie to coffee here, wanting to learn. Me and my girlfriend want to try to practice coffee brewing at home.. We want something not too expensive, but a reliable and accurate machine to practice properly. So after some research online, we are eyeing on the Nuova Simonelli Musica .

Do you all have any recommended place for us to purchase the Musica, for a good deal/reasonable price (not overpriced) ?
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 28 2016, 01:55 AM)
Musica not cheap iirc, EU pricing very attractive. Looked at other options? Don't forget u still need a good Grinder.. What you have in mind now?
http://www.finecoffeecompany.com/product-c...resso-machines/
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Quite agree. Musica is definitely not a beginner machine but yes, invest in it and it will serve you long and well. If you know exactly what you are getting into, it'll be a fabulous machine (you have to do justice to it with a good grinder yes?)
There's one currently in the second hand market: http://www.mudah.my/Coffee+machine+home+or...e+-43742196.htm
I don't know about the market price of it though
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I have problem with weak crema, got my fresh bean from my espresso lab, bean is fresh, around 2 weeks old.

i got myself with a unpressurised basket. using my hand grinder to grind to the finest(took really long time to grind it though) , tamp it and pull the shot. Surprisingly it over tamp at the first time.

Second time adjust the grind about 1/4 turn from finest to course, tamp at the same pressure. this time still under tamp, the coffee came out too fast with very weak crema.

Im expecting myself to get a nicr crema like tiger stripe, but fail to do so, but havent give up yet. My machine is Delonghi ecov 311, since the Delinghi EC 155 wit upf can do a nice crema tiger stripe, i believe my machine can do it too.

Any idea what will be the problem? is it because of my coffee not properly grind enough? feel like wanna get an electric grinder.. tiring of grinding with my arm... lol
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I have problem with weak crema, got my fresh bean from my espresso lab, bean is fresh, around 2 weeks old.

i got myself with a unpressurised basket. using my hand grinder to grind to the finest(took really long time to grind it though) , tamp it and pull the shot. Surprisingly it over tamp at the first time.

Second time adjust the grind about 1/4 turn from finest to course, tamp at the same pressure. this time still under tamp, the coffee came out too fast with very weak crema.

Im expecting myself to get a nicr crema like tiger stripe, but fail to do so, but havent give up yet. My machine is Delonghi ecov 311, since the Delinghi EC 155 wit upf can do a nice crema tiger stripe, i believe my machine can do it too.

Any idea what will be the problem? is it because of my coffee not properly grind enough? feel like wanna get an electric grinder.. tiring of grinding with my arm... lol
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either too coarse or too fine will become like this.
my ec155 can do better.
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either too coarse or too fine will become like this.
my ec155 can do better.
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so need to keep try and error? cause i thought unpressurised basket need very fine texture.

EC155 same specification as Eco 310/311 right?
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so need to keep try and error? cause i thought unpressurised basket need very fine texture.

EC155 same specification as Eco 310/311 right?
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yeah quite fine. even finest stock setting for krups gvx2 are not fine enough.
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yeah quite fine. even finest stock setting for krups gvx2 are not fine enough.
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Bg kurangkn kos kperluan harian,Krjn akn,antaranya,liberalisasikn AP bg prod prtanian trpilih trmasuk biji kopi mentah,daging #Bajet2016


Saw this on kopitiam, does this mean we will be able to import raw beans without AP in the near future?

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Bg kurangkn kos kperluan harian,Krjn akn,antaranya,liberalisasikn AP bg prod prtanian trpilih trmasuk biji kopi mentah,daging #Bajet2016

Saw this on kopitiam, does this mean we will be able to import raw beans without AP in the near future?
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According to The Star's ongoing report on the revised budget, Mr 2.6 billion announced "- 3. To reduce cost of living, Govt to liberalise APs for agricultural products including coffee beans and meats".

So what does "liberalise" mean? Why not just say "eliminate"? Does it just mean more cronies get APs?


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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Jan 28 2016, 09:28 AM)
I have problem with weak crema, got my fresh bean from my espresso lab, bean is fresh, around 2 weeks old.

i got myself with a unpressurised basket. using my hand grinder to grind to the finest(took really long time to grind it though) , tamp it and pull the shot. Surprisingly it over tamp at the first time.

Second time adjust the grind about 1/4 turn from finest to course, tamp at the same pressure. this time still under tamp, the coffee came out too fast with very weak crema.

Im expecting myself to get a nicr crema like tiger stripe, but fail to do so, but havent give up yet. My machine is Delonghi ecov 311, since the Delinghi EC 155 wit upf can do a nice crema tiger stripe, i believe my machine can do it too.

Any idea what will be the problem? is it because of my coffee not properly grind enough? feel like wanna get an electric grinder.. tiring of grinding with my arm... lol
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Possible you have channeling: water going through cracks in your coffee grounds due to uneven tamp or overdosing.

Not that I actually know this from experience: I use pressurised (with very light tamp), and a low dose so no chance of this happening....
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According to The Star's ongoing report on the revised budget, Mr 2.6 billion announced "- 3. To reduce cost of living, Govt to liberalise APs for agricultural products including coffee beans and meats".

So what does "liberalise" mean? Why not just say "eliminate"? Does it just mean more cronies get APs?
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Ah, i was just about to quote that too. I think what liberalized mean is that there will be more AP holders who can import these now?
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 28 2016, 01:15 AM)
ppl in SG have bought grinder from them no issue.
chances of a defective machine low, very low.
as for customs tax.. 30%?? where did u get the info?

GST/VAT plus import tax is like 12-15%. still cheaper than what u find locally.. of course when they unreasonable 30% is ouch!
http://tariff.customs.gov.my/

from here its just 10%.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/841985
wouldn't ppl getting from taobao be chop here and there.. U just not comfortable buying online. I am kinda used to in my society.. else amazon not seeing crazy market. lol
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Possible you have channeling: water going through cracks in your coffee grounds due to uneven tamp or overdosing.

Not that I actually know this from experience: I use pressurised (with very light tamp), and a low dose so no chance of this happening....
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now im trying to use unpressurised basket.
ya, if i use pressurised i also lightly tamp , cos if tamp too much will tend to over tamp thus the water cant flow thru
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jan 28 2016, 09:10 AM)
Quite agree. Musica is definitely not a beginner machine but yes, invest in it and it will serve you long and well. If you know exactly what you are getting into, it'll be a fabulous machine (you have to do justice to it with a good grinder yes?)
There's one currently in the second hand market: http://www.mudah.my/Coffee+machine+home+or...e+-43742196.htm
I don't know about the market price of it though
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Some hoe for that price I am more inclined to get a http://londiniumespresso.com/store/lever-e...nes/londinium-i
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 28 2016, 11:40 PM)
Some hoe for that price I am more inclined to get a http://londiniumespresso.com/store/lever-e...nes/londinium-i