Hello Guys, I am new here, never know lowyat forum have such an active coffee thread. Any recommendation low budget decent espresso machine + electric grinder?
Total budget around 4k.
Thanks.
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Jan 21 2016, 04:25 PM
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Hello Guys, I am new here, never know lowyat forum have such an active coffee thread. Any recommendation low budget decent espresso machine + electric grinder?
Total budget around 4k. Thanks. |
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Jan 21 2016, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 21 2016, 09:19 PM) Try the version 1 thread, buy on taobao get Chinese brand or buy used here. I know China people like to use Milesto M2, so is it same here?I repost Tikietic stuff here, he went Chinese route https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3830783 |
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Jan 22 2016, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 22 2016, 09:56 AM) Simonelli Oscar plus ZD 16. This is my current setup. Im using it for past 9 months & they are still good for my every morning latte. Thanks for your advice, where you get your ZD-16 and Oscar? How much it cost?[attachmentid=5881516]this is old photo taken july last year, newbie photo |
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Jan 22 2016, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 22 2016, 12:16 PM) Oscar i bought from lighthouse coffee near sg pinang, penang. Im staying in penang. Cost rm 3.6k b4 gst with free gift, pitcher, thermometer, tamper, 2 espresso cups, knock box. ZD-16 i bought from taobao, small box sea freight, less than rm500 if not mistake. Can you share how you buy things on Taobao? Normally I am asking "middle man" buy for me, but they charge like 0.8 * taobao selling price in RMB + around RM 15/kg for sea freight, is it what it suppose to be?This post has been edited by user5092: Jan 22 2016, 12:23 PM |
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Mar 18 2016, 02:50 PM
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Hi all the coffee lovers, I am planning to get a WPM KD 210 S2, any recommendation on the coffee grinder? Budget for grinder maybe around 1500. Thanks
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Mar 18 2016, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(Bujal.x @ Mar 17 2016, 02:36 PM) hi everybody, I also newbie here, correct me if I am wrongjust want to ask suggestion forĀ coffee beans at the price range between rm25-rm35.im new coffee lover and now switching from pre ground to fresh beans.i dont have any machine at house and using pour overĀ and french press method.as for the grinding,which is suitable for both method? fine or coarse? I know that fine grinding is not suitable for french press, as it will clog the filter, your coffee will stuck under the filter and cannot pour out. (of cause, it depends how fine the coffee powder) For pour over, fine grinding some how very easy to over extract, so the time and the flow of water is very important. This post has been edited by user5092: Mar 18 2016, 02:58 PM |
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Mar 21 2016, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 18 2016, 11:49 PM) This is a China made semi auto espresso machine, I not sure you can find it here, but you can bring it in from TaoBao if you know how to do that.There is a China guy made some test of this espresso machine compare to WPM KD 210 S2 which also in the same price range, the result seems WPM is slightly better. Below is the link for those who can read Chinese http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4323243518 |
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Mar 23 2016, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 22 2016, 10:52 AM) thanks for the link looks like the WPM is better in steaming looking at this set; is the price ok? https://world.taobao.com/item/9370216842.ht...0.jhxnv2#detail [attachmentid=6218506] The price looks good, Dankin in Serdang is selling RM 3,299 for the KD210S2 only (without grinder) before GST. But you need to confirm the plug type, I believe you need an adapter. Regarding the WPM grinder, I have not much comment, some people say good, some people say not good. If you can get the Baratza Encore also not bad. You using Bakashopping? How much they charge for the freight cost for this item? |
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Mar 25 2016, 01:51 PM
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Apr 14 2016, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(skitZo` @ Apr 7 2016, 11:15 PM) pierreye Hi SkitZoWow ! nice info there on the PID. Would sure like to install it myself but not sure how. Anyway I'm a Poemia user too. Have been using it for 2 years plus, depressurised the portafilter and using a 53mm tamper to tamp. Grind wise using a cheap China Yangchia / Flyeagle 600N grinder can give me quite some nice grinds , my dosage is 16gm of 45ml coffee in 25 secs. As for the Stock pannarello , i replaced it with this Poemia Pannarello its basically a pannarello but once you remove the cover its a normal steam wand. Steam wise i used the steaming trick where i start steaming right before the steaming light turns on, can produce nice microfoam since the boiler is keep on producing steam. lowkl you can check out the wand in the above link if you want to replace the stock panarello and extend the length of the steaming wand. Cheers! May I know how you get your Flyeagle? I dont think it is available in Malaysia right? You got it via TaoBao? Thanks |
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Apr 15 2016, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Apr 14 2016, 05:30 PM) I have one major problem with the 600N (or at least the 600N "version" that I have): retention. Allow me to share a photo: Is it the design faulty? Or only your case? Because seems like those China user didn't voice out this problem.[attachmentid=6385214] Every once in a while the grinder coughs up a large clump of fines, most probably from these retained grounds finally shaking free. Exactly what this does to the actual taste of the coffee, is a good question. The problem is I don't have any reference point to measure against. In terms of clumping & retention, the manual Hario Skerton is the only thing I can compare with. Is it 600N = Feima (Flyhorse) and 900N = Feiying (Flyeagle) ? P.S.: I just found the description on Feima and Feiying in here https://thinkingcoffee.wordpress.com/2014/0...g-600n-grinder/ Besides, are this grinder suitable for espresso machine? This post has been edited by user5092: Apr 15 2016, 11:46 AM |
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Apr 15 2016, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Apr 15 2016, 12:54 PM) Firstly, it is exactly this post that pointed me to this grinder & to this supplier. As such, I believe my model is identical to the article. Wow... that's very detail, thanks for your effort to explain to me.No idea on the 600N/900N versions; sorry. However, if you look at the various models on Lelong, there seems to be two clear price groups; one at RM300-RM400, and another at RM700-RM800. This huge variance is probably due to *something* but I have no idea what. There are a few videos on YouTube reviewing this grinder; the most informative are those from Indonesia. They are of course in Indonesian, but since we understand Malay we can get the gist of it. Carefully examining the videos, I would say that the version I am using is a lower quality build than the Indonesian one. Purely from the look of it, I think the one found on Lelong called Delisio looks identical. I think there are two reasons why the retention rate is high: 1) the screw feed area - the tolerance between the screw feed and the cavity is too big. When I compare it to the absolute reference of this kind of grinder being the EK43, you can see that the EK43's cavity is actually not centred around the screw feed but offset, so that the tolerance between the caviry wally and screw feed at the bottom is very fine. I'm thinking of 3D printing an insert to fill up the unnecessary space to fix this. 2) the rotor burr uses two really crude sweeper "arms" to push the grounds into the chute; they are really just two rectangular boxes jutting out exactly at right angles. Just looking at them I would suspect that 50% of grounds go one way (towards the chute) while 50% go the other way (into the cavity behind the rotor). Once in this cavity the grounds will never get swept into the chute. To reduce this effect, once again I'm thinking of modding the machine by sticking on a prism-shaped wedge on each of the sweeper arms to direct the majority of the grounds one way... towards the chute. Sorry, but I cannot answer on the suitability of this machine for espresso; my experience is way too narrow to give a real opinion on the matter. |
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Nov 8 2016, 03:05 PM
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Hi Guys, any decent semi auto espresso machine reccommend? Currently I am looking at WPM KD-210S2, any other cheaper but decent option?
Besides, my grinder is WPM ZD-15 Thanks This post has been edited by user5092: Nov 8 2016, 03:22 PM |
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Nov 9 2016, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Nov 9 2016, 08:40 AM) Budget will be <2.5kCurrently I am just drinking pour over coffee. At least the espresso machine can deliver kind of stable pressure, and can come out 2 shots per day with no prblem... |
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Nov 10 2016, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(dilin @ Nov 10 2016, 09:52 AM) I suggest getting a good brew grinder and good beans, and not venture into espresso at the moment. What beans you are using currently? I am just bought the single origin beans from those coffee shop... haha.. Mostly from Roast Glee Factor, any other recommendation?This post has been edited by user5092: Nov 10 2016, 09:10 PM |
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Nov 11 2016, 11:45 AM
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