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patryn33
post Jan 10 2016, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(razorkid @ Jan 10 2016, 02:01 PM)
Espresso and unpressurised. Trying to get the bare minimum and cheapest for espresso. 20% of 2-3k sounds lovely
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Read up Tikietic, he got the full setup from taobao all welhome branded
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry76824136

For 4500 can get full set
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.htm...1898.0.0.Q3tflK

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Less $$ try
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.htm....101.196.gCCUZE
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post Jan 11 2016, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Jan 11 2016, 10:32 AM)
Welhome/惠家KD-310 is a product rebranded from Sunbean. Is KD310 and Baratza Preciso a good match ?
The problem is they cant be found in local.
Since they are electronic, if I buy from Taobao, will TAX be imposed. I think postage alone also wont be cheap.
And afterward maintenance ? like service, parts change after degeneration?  should i add these into consideration ?
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Good match is subjective all I can say it's a good start on a budget
Ask those who have bought on taobao pm the dude ( Tikietic ) who shop online not me. Such machines just need descale no need parts change on a annual basis. May last 5-7 yrs before u need to find something new.

Google for review around, I only point you to who bought on taobao and own such machine. I cannot comment on tax and shipping cost etc

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post Jan 11 2016, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Jan 11 2016, 01:42 PM)
Just check KD-310 and I think it is out of my budget, Kd210 alone already cost me 2.5K, they will free their ZD-10 coffee grinder, I will use that temporarily before I have enough money to get baratza preciso. Or is there any wpm coffee grinder that is on par with preciso?

baratza preciso also getting from taobao ?
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Why baratza precisco? Just use it till you have $$ for a better grinder

Get one of these and you don't have to upgrade grinder
https://www.chriscoffee.com/MACAP-M4-Espres...er-p/m4c18r.htm

Or buy online from below for little more they last forever plus no need to consider upgrade
https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/index.ph...=78_246_271_275
http://www.espressoservices.co.uk/fiorenza...no_grinder.html

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post Jan 19 2016, 04:06 AM

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QUOTE(wanglc @ Jan 19 2016, 12:59 AM)
Check-out Nescafe red cup coffee machine, it is suitable for home and small office and best lagi no need to buy capsule.

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Nescafe Red Cup Coffee Machine
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A spoon can do the job why a machine to make instant coffee?
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post Jan 20 2016, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 19 2016, 10:18 AM)
Coffee beans are exempted from GST right?
Btw, how fast do you guys normally finish your 250g/500g/1Kg beans?
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300gm every 1 week or less.

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post Jan 20 2016, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(wanglc @ Jan 19 2016, 01:08 PM)
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Yes you are right... thumbup.gif

Most people don't do this, but simply by boiling freshly drawn water each time you want to make coffee makes a huge difference to the taste.
This machine can heat up the water from room temperature to the right temperature for a cup of coffee in 40sec.
The best coffee taste can be had when you use water that has not quite reached boiling point.

Learn to enjoy a cup of instant coffee and enjoy your daily lifestyle.
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not a commercial unit why the focus on 40secs? the instant factor?
best tasting coffee isn't instant.

for 448RM entry level nespresso does the job better, pods also better quality than instant as a premium.
no offense get a moka pot or pour over cheaper and better tasting coffee.

http://www.graciasonlinestore.com/coffee-m...ct-1345054.html
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post Jan 20 2016, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 20 2016, 06:42 AM)
Quite sure he/she is seller promoting lah... biggrin.gif dats why I see one eye...
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I get dude is promoting the product he or she selling.
I just like to highlight its black not white...
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post Jan 21 2016, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(sabahan62 @ Jan 20 2016, 08:47 PM)
Hi,

Since I have seen so many members here talking about freshness of the roasted beans, how about doing home roasting?

Wondering anyone here has ventured into roasting green beans? Like using Gene Cafe roaster or other brand? Or even using a pop corn maker to roast like I saw on YouTube. Btw, where to buy green beans?
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coffee needs to degas for few days to achieve its peak after roasting.
store bought roasted on 21st Jan 2016 and home roasted on same day not going to make yours any fresher. Home roasting you can nail down the time its roasted but I yet to come across studies that 1hr diff makes great diff.

home roasting makes sense if one cannot get access to "fresh" beans by that I mean beans that have degassed for over few days. many tried to consume their beans with 14-15 days after their roast date.

many times home roasters is doing it out of passion more so than freshness of beans.
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post Jan 21 2016, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 21 2016, 05:20 AM)
You forget two other factors.... control & cost.

If you control the roast, you can try out different roast profiles using the same beans. It would be nice/interesting to try out different profiles to see what suits your personal preference instead of the roasters. The other thing you can control is the blend since most green beans are effectively single origin when purchased.

The other factor is the cost. Getting consistently freshly roasted beans in turn mean two things: premium services and small quantities. Premium services because not all coffee beans sources cater for aficionados ; eg all regular store-bought beans from supermarkets don't have roasted - on dates. Small quantities because unless you are a heavy consistent coffee drinker (or pull shots for more than one person like I do)  it is difficult to finish a large bag before the tail end gets stale. Therefore, small bags.  Small, frequent and fast supply means high transport costs. 

Both these factors mean substantially higher prices. Roasting at home means you can guarantee freshness by roasting exactly what you consume, exactly when you want/need it,  exactly how you like it.  You buy green beans in bulk (by the kilo) as they can keep easily for 6 months to a year without significant degradation. You aren't paying some courier company RM 6 every 2 weeks to move a paltry 125gm or 250gm bag a few km, or the parking fees/petrol/car maintenance costs incurred when you drive to the few stores that stock beans with Roast by dates.

Thus ends my geek rant....
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Too bad I have access to place where I can blend my own beans (over 30 kinds of greens) and control roast temp to try out different profile. Then again quality of beans may not be as good as those single origin sourced by say Intelligensia. Transport cost not much as its like 5 min drive away or 20 min walk.

Even I don't do so I can get shipment in free of charge thanx to the country I am in, roast dates on those just under 3 days usually. Hard to control even if i do roasting, new job last min travel plan screw up consumption rate. If one can discern the taste between 7 day old vs 4 day old great, otherwise it's more psychological.

There are pros but what you stated seems like a stretch.

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QUOTE(user5092 @ Jan 21 2016, 04:25 PM)
Hello Guys, I am new here, never know lowyat forum have such an active coffee thread. Any recommendation low budget decent espresso machine + electric grinder?
Total budget around 4k.

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Try the version 1 thread, buy on taobao get Chinese brand or buy used here.

I repost Tikietic stuff here, he went Chinese route
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3830783

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QUOTE(user5092 @ Jan 21 2016, 10:42 PM)
I know China people like to use Milesto M2, so is it same here?
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Don't know what's Milesto M2 and what ppl like to use home here commonly. Sorry
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post Jan 23 2016, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(PegasuS87 @ Jan 23 2016, 07:29 PM)
wow...   drool.gif  drool.gif

And it stated comes with anti vacuum valve, dont know whether can mod opv like previous version or not.
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The price gap here is wider. Need to add shipping cost to really know. Some place make up the numbers with shipping and handling
https://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/products.php?cat=115

Interestingly that Italian 1st priced at eur$525 now up eur$100. Not release yet prices estimate only??
http://www.home-barista.com/advice/why-no-...-t39255-10.html

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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jan 26 2016, 11:21 AM)
Couple of people are selling on Lelong, but the ones I got from them have mostly
INACCURATE measurements! It may or may not matter to you...
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U meant such? How inaccurate? Off by 1ml or 10ml?
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32281291281.html
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32341261060.html

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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jan 26 2016, 11:10 PM)
Whoa! The second link shows Lab Beakers! These won't be off by more than 2 ml or so.

The ones that are off are the ones in the first link, and also those "Tiamo Shot Glasses" : one could be almost spot on, while another could be off by about 5-8 ml - not that much, really, but to someone anal like me, it's just not kosher!

I know because I went and bought 50 ml measuring cylinders, and also 50 ml beakers, did someone mention "anal"? haha
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Poor QC?
U can taste over extraction by 5ml!
You got your mazzer? Prc maybe not be kosher and unfit for anal ppl

Hmm when I free shall check if my 2 shot glass that screw up

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 27 2016, 07:33 PM)
Personally I think this forum is a little too preoccupied with crazy expensive equipment.

As for the French Press, perhaps getting a set from Ikea would be more cost effective than hacking a new mesh. The 1 liter model goes for RM 59 while the 0.4 liter is just RM 27.90. Was just at the Cheras branch... tons of stock.
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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jan 27 2016, 01:06 PM)
Last time I checked, was around 2.5K, from various sellers. Since you asked, I checked cuppa, and they don't have it anymore. Will keep looking, but any leads would be welcome!
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Compak k3 58mm burr

But online MC6 65mm burr can cost less
https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/index.ph...&product_id=668
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QUOTE(stfsoelyn @ Jan 27 2016, 11:34 PM)
Thanks for the link. The price sure is tempting, but I would have to be a gambling person to take that plunge: the thought of
shipping a defective machine back to EU is scary. And we don't know yet if the customs guys will decide, on that particular time, of that  particular day, when the machine passes their station, if they will drop the axe on the 30 odd %... sweat.gif
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ppl in SG have bought grinder from them no issue.
chances of a defective machine low, very low.
as for customs tax.. 30%?? where did u get the info?

GST/VAT plus import tax is like 12-15%. still cheaper than what u find locally.. of course when they unreasonable 30% is ouch!
http://tariff.customs.gov.my/

from here its just 10%.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/841985


wouldn't ppl getting from taobao be chop here and there.. U just not comfortable buying online. I am kinda used to in my society.. else amazon not seeing crazy market. lol

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QUOTE(27needles @ Jan 27 2016, 06:07 PM)
Hi guys smile.gif Was looking on facebook for malaysian coffee group or something, but couldn't find. So nice to find this thread on lowyat!

Newbie to coffee here, wanting to learn. Me and my girlfriend want to try to practice coffee brewing at home.. We want something not too expensive, but a reliable and accurate machine to practice properly. So after some research online, we are eyeing on the Nuova Simonelli Musica .

Do you all have any recommended place for us to purchase the Musica, for a good deal/reasonable price (not overpriced) ?
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Musica not cheap iirc, EU pricing very attractive. Looked at other options? Don't forget u still need a good Grinder.. What you have in mind now?
http://www.finecoffeecompany.com/product-c...resso-machines/
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jan 28 2016, 09:10 AM)
Quite agree. Musica is definitely not a beginner machine but yes, invest in it and it will serve you long and well. If you know exactly what you are getting into, it'll be a fabulous machine (you have to do justice to it with a good grinder yes?)
There's one currently in the second hand market: http://www.mudah.my/Coffee+machine+home+or...e+-43742196.htm
I don't know about the market price of it though
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Some hoe for that price I am more inclined to get a http://londiniumespresso.com/store/lever-e...nes/londinium-i
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:21 PM

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Anything 2nd hand in this area will be cheaper.
But are they looking for 2nd hand? If no strictly 1st hand then ... Just for learning and home, need to factor in grinder.

Anyway ppl spending the $$ is chill, I am not debating anything just stating I would rather get something diff. Machine is very subjective

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