QUOTE(lowkl @ Mar 1 2016, 09:40 AM)
Coming back to my original question a few posts back....do these lower cost machines objectively produce "mediocre" output, as you put it? Ideally I would prefer to judge for myself through a side-by-side shootout.
do you drink charbucks/sanfrancisco/coffeebean/etc? does it tastes ok? if yes then these low cost grinders with fresh beans are a measurable improvements and should get you started nicely...
some grinders are better than others, lelit for example is quite good.
Furthermore our technique & espresso machines may also not be so top-quality so we may not be able to realize the optimum output anyways.
here's the thing...why are we in this this hobby? what is it we're trying to achieve?
if I have a good grinder/machine and make lousy coffee...I know I screw up, learn from my mistakes and do better next time
if I have a lousy grinder/machine and make good coffee...two conclusions (1) I have reached the pinnacle as a barista, (2) I don't know better
the question then is...how do I know...(1) or (2)? I know I can't reach the pinnacle starting with lousy grinder/machine because all three...me/grinder/machine are the variables and limiting factor...so for me to improve, I need to be the limiting factor [that means (2)
] and not my grinders and machines...you get what i'm saying?...
now...where do I stop w.r.t grinders/machines?...that is a discussion for another day...