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LazyJin
post Mar 7 2016, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Mar 7 2016, 09:23 PM)
$100 is 30% of Giotto?
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post Mar 8 2016, 08:12 AM

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I just bought a Macap M4 doser version online from EspressoCoffeeShop.com around RM 1700 including shipping. Will let you all know how much is the tax. According to my research, if it fall under hot beverage making machine, the tax should be 0% + 6% GST. I might buy a timer relay to turn it into doserless version as M4D is so damn expensive compare to M4.

Update: Got the tax total. It is 20% + 6% for Tea and Coffee making machine. It seems like 0%+6% is only valid if you run food and beverage business and import for business use.

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post Mar 8 2016, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Mar 7 2016, 09:23 PM)
$100 is 30% of Giotto?
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It should've been way higher. After lil bit of questioning ie "eh how come before takde pun kena tax, when I bawak masok toasters, mixers, etc for personal use?", and a lil bit of begging "tolong la banggg, tak tau"; he asked if I'd be ok to pay RM100.00.

So I cepat-cepat agreed to pay that amount.

I guess that's just for formality lah. Cos the custom's rule indicates that any electronics item will be imposed 30% from the price of the item.

Nasib baik he's a reasonable fella. Phew! 😅

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post Mar 8 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 8 2016, 08:12 AM)
I just bought a Macap M4 doser version online from EspressoCoffeeShop.com around RM 1700 including shipping. Will let you all know how much is the tax. According to my research, if it fall under hot beverage making machine, the tax should be 0% + 6% GST. I might buy a timer relay to turn it into doserless version as M4D is so damn expensive compare to M4.

Update: Got the tax total. It is 20% + 6% for Tea and Coffee making machine. It seems like 0%+6% is only valid if you run food and beverage business and import for business use.
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So it's about RM 1300 for grinder & RM 400 for shipping.

How they tax? On total or grinder?
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post Mar 8 2016, 09:04 PM

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Tax always based on total. Plus agent fee Rm50, total tax around rm 500. Still cheaper compare to Amazon price.

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post Mar 8 2016, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 8 2016, 09:04 PM)
Tax always based on total. Plus agent fee Rm50, total tax around rm 500. Still cheaper compare to Amazon price.
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Still cheaper than buying locally? By how much?
Ppl worry about tax and warranty of savings isn't substantial, but what is substantial?
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I'm not sure about local pricing but if based on my experience, the price locally really cut throat. Last year I ask about Baratza Encore and quoted close to RM 1k. In the end, I get a Porlex to try out first. The only brand that I feel that is price reasonable compare to oversea is Breville.

I'm not so worry about the Macap grinder as based on review the build quality is very good plus any problem seems to be user repairable. I'm quite capable of swapping component and done some diy stuff such as adding PID to the espresso machine.

If anyone who is not comfortable to get their hand dirty should buy locally.

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Mar 8 2016, 11:32 PM)
Still cheaper than buying locally? By how much?
Ppl worry about tax and warranty of savings isn't substantial, but what is substantial?
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Don't know anything about local availability and price...it's same burr class as K3 so assuming similar pricing then I guess savings about RM 1k which is quite good.
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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 8 2016, 09:04 PM)
Tax always based on total. Plus agent fee Rm50, total tax around rm 500. Still cheaper compare to Amazon price.
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Thanks...and all the best with your new grinder smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2016, 10:10 AM

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Dankoff quoted mignon rm1850. Is it okay? Worth it??
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post Mar 9 2016, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(sapora @ Mar 9 2016, 10:10 AM)
Dankoff quoted mignon rm1850. Is it okay? Worth it??
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If it is Mignon Mk2 then pretty good price.
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post Mar 9 2016, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 9 2016, 11:36 AM)
If it is Mignon Mk2 then pretty good price.
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What's is the diff mk1 vs mk2? On eureka just mignon
Buy the NS MCF same machine diff brand it's cheaper in Europe. But in USA eureka cost more than NS.
http://www.elektros.it/sk/en/coffee_grinde...i-mcf-nero.html

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post Mar 9 2016, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 9 2016, 11:36 AM)
If it is Mignon Mk2 then pretty good price.
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yup they said mignon mk2
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Mar 9 2016, 12:03 PM)
What's is the diff mk1 vs mk2? On eureka just mignon
Buy the NS MCF same machine diff brand it's cheaper in Europe. But in USA eureka cost more than NS.
http://www.elektros.it/sk/en/coffee_grinde...i-mcf-nero.html
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but have to buy it online?? scared if the grinder will not arrive.hahaa
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post Mar 9 2016, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(sapora @ Mar 9 2016, 12:09 PM)
but have to buy it online?? scared if the grinder will not arrive.hahaa
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You scared then buy at retail store.
Local biz happy they earn your biz and you get to sleep like a baby

I am living in a Econ which is based on e-sales. Local biz such as circuit city, sports authority went bankrupt.

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post Mar 9 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(sapora @ Mar 9 2016, 10:10 AM)
Dankoff quoted mignon rm1850. Is it okay? Worth it??
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RM1500 at coffee stain
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post Mar 9 2016, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(aizuddinmanap @ Mar 9 2016, 10:23 PM)
RM1500 at coffee stain
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really?? coffee stain in publika sells grinders?
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post Mar 10 2016, 03:32 PM

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interesting info regarding some coffee machine running at higher than 9 bar is not wrong but on purpose. I think this is due to the tiny vibe pump to compensate for the pressure loss due to lower volume moving thru the piping and brew head compare to big commercial rotary pump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4y4-E2aL3U
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post Mar 10 2016, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 10 2016, 03:32 PM)
interesting info regarding some coffee machine running at higher than 9 bar is not wrong but on purpose. I think this is due to the tiny vibe pump to compensate for the pressure loss due to lower volume moving thru the piping and brew head compare to big commercial rotary pump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4y4-E2aL3U
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Not really pressure loss but rather to match the flow rate of the bigger rotary pumps

Vibe @9bar pumps 35 liters/hr but Rotary @9 bar pumps 100 liters/hr
So they up the Vibe to 11 bars to hit the similiar 100 liters/hr

What I don't get is when you hit resistance, what does that mean? Once the portafilter has completely filled up with water, the flow rate does not matter anymore right? Cos I would think a 11bar pressure, even from a smaller pump is going to be able to pump through that overdosed puck rather than the 9bar bigger pump. Anybody?

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