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Where to buy folding bicycle in Malaysia?
Almost any bicycle store will carry some folding bicycle. Find the store nearest to you and call! List of bicycle dealers in Malaysia by Lerun Used and New Folding bike search @ Bicycle Buy & Sell This post has been edited by H2D: Nov 28 2014, 03:18 PM |
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Online version Folding bike/ bicycle blogs Hands On Bike The Samosaurus Chronicles Ahpek Biker Happy Happy Small Wheels Big Smile Love the Fold Searching for folding bike and parts in taobao. 1. Folding bike - 折叠自行车 This post has been edited by H2D: Jul 16 2015, 11:59 PM |
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Types of folding bicycles, folding bikes, - Youtube vids
FUBI » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Somerset folding bike. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Dahon Eezz / Jifo » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Dahon Clinch » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Brompton » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Pacific cycle CarryMe » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ORI folding bike » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Strida folding bike » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « A-bike A bike » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Nanoo folding bike by Jee Ann Bicycles » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Birdy by pacific cycles » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Tyrell Fx folding bike » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « IF Move by Pacific cycles » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « IF Reach by Pacific cycles » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Jango Flik » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Di Blasi R32 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 5Links » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Montague » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Changebike » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Giant MR4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Doppelganger Squalo » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Helix » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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2015 Reach R20
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Any recommend for folding bike mode?
Got eye on Dahon Vybe C7A. Whats the market price now? |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Nov 25 2014, 11:43 AM) i oredi posted so many times... mind to share the name of the folding bike?go find... if u shot the pics, y din u ask d fler where he buy? |
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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Nov 25 2014, 01:56 PM) i don't know if this bike is selling in msia, but it used to be sold in spore, but til now the dealer put no stock for long time already. but of course ppl can buy direct from taobao, the inventor is from GZ china. ![]() http://liuyingduan.1688.com/ http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....&id=18086584527 This post has been edited by H2D: Nov 25 2014, 02:17 PM |
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^^ So nice.. Suitable for a 5' like me
I'm beginning to chart my commuting course in JB, and there's a probability that I need to go across on a pedestrian bridge. 20"s are a bit too bulky. 16" not many choice. Dahon Curve D7 is high on my list. Need to go across the border to get one |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Nov 25 2014, 02:12 PM) i don't know if this bike is selling in msia, thanks brobut it used to be sold in spore, but til now the dealer put no stock for long time already. but of course ppl can buy direct from taobao, the inventor is from GZ china. ![]() http://liuyingduan.1688.com/ http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....&id=18086584527 |
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Congratz for the new version
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Congrats on v4!
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hi, anyone experience check in folding bike in KLIA?
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Nov 25 2014, 02:48 PM) ^^ So nice.. Suitable for a 5' like me Great NEW Site Version..... I'm beginning to chart my commuting course in JB, and there's a probability that I need to go across on a pedestrian bridge. 20"s are a bit too bulky. 16" not many choice. Dahon Curve D7 is high on my list. Need to go across the border to get one Syd, would it be cheaper across the bridge ? coz bike import here got tax, so if one buy from Sin and cycle across to jb, can ah ? |
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QUOTE(wke002 @ Nov 26 2014, 04:57 PM) Great NEW Site Version..... On the contrary, bikes are more expensive there in Singapore. Probably because margins need to be higher to cover their higher rentals, staffs, transportation etc.etc. My calculation states it's about 15% to 20 % higher than our RRP. That's before you negotiate a bit from the dealers. Even parts costs more but they do have an advantage though, they stock more variety and they have everything! Syd, would it be cheaper across the bridge ? coz bike import here got tax, so if one buy from Sin and cycle across to jb, can ah ? |
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Congrats on v4.......more to learn fr sifu here...
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Not sure abt bikes...i bought golf clubs fr usa but no tax unless we buy some shirts n ship it 2gether then sure kena....
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Checking in and congrats on V4 !
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QUOTE(wke002 @ Nov 26 2014, 04:57 PM) Great NEW Site Version..... Price-wise I dont know. The model that I want to test out (Dahon Curve D7) is not available here in MY. I saw somewhere retail $750.Syd, would it be cheaper across the bridge ? coz bike import here got tax, so if one buy from Sin and cycle across to jb, can ah ? Bromptons are cheaper in Singapore. But then if you go HK, you can pay for AirAsia, get yourself a Brommie and come back and it'll still be cheaper than SG/MY |
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QUOTE(sukabasa @ Nov 27 2014, 02:46 PM) Adui...>< ...... i was lucky dat time as i didnt pay 1st ...only after more than a week ( asi try scout ard 4 better pricing ) when they took down d ads ...i panic liaw n contact them to conform if i still entitle 4 d offer n they say yes.......so fast2 pay lor......... aft receiving tis bike....my mind now kena poison liaw......need to get another 4 for whole family .....my wallet is starting to feel d sakit .....heheThis post has been edited by frankie chin: Nov 27 2014, 02:12 PM |
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Nov 27 2014, 02:09 PM) Adui...>< ...... i was lucky dat time as i didnt pay 1st ...only after more than a week ( asi try scout ard 4 better pricing ) when they took down d ads ...i panic liaw n contact them to conform if i still entitle 4 d offer n they say yes.......so fast2 pay lor......... aft receiving tis bike....my mind now kena poison liaw......need to get another 4 for whole family .....my wallet is starting to feel d sakit .....hehe You are super lucky. This bike really good. I still finding another folding bike but also can't get this good price >.< |
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Nov 27 2014, 06:03 PM) It doesn't matter where it is made. Most frames are now made in China, even very branded ones. The price for Dahon went a bit haywire because Rodalink has lost the franchise to Guan Chow and is trying sabo the price to safeguard their Terns. What you have now, is the last few units left in their inventory. I saw the Speed going for like RM1580 the other day but that was the last unit. We can pray though that Guan Chow, out of good will follow along the price set for the first few shipments which have already arrived and on the way to the distributors. Then the consumers win, right? The newer Dahon uses better drivetrain units now, I think they have discarded Neos already. For all we care , Tern can have all the Neos, hahahaaa.I don't know Guan Chow will bring back the Dahon Curve as 16 inch wheelers are getting really hot now. Easy to fold and carry into LRTs. Let's hope thy do. But it's easily obtained in Singapore and Bangkok. |
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[quote=kof91,Nov 27 2014, 09:31 PM]
dr hon and dahon route both rm899 hummer is rm699 Which one is worth it? I am new to bicycle, wan to look for a nice ride for leisure but shop boss keep recommending me the first 2 bikes.. [/quot for me i go 4 dahon |
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Nov 27 2014, 03:27 PM) Got myself a Dahon Vybe fr Kimbell Jaya which is a great bike for a newbie like me. Have been riding it alternate days and decided 2 pimp my ride by adding some accessories like rear light, Cateye Velo Wireless+ and mirror. Also ordered a front light which hopefully is on the way Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 27 2014, 07:23 PM) It doesn't matter where it is made. Most frames are now made in China, even very branded ones. The price for Dahon went a bit haywire because Rodalink has lost the franchise to Guan Chow and is trying sabo the price to safeguard their Terns. What you have now, is the last few units left in their inventory. I saw the Speed going for like RM1580 the other day but that was the last unit. We can pray though that Guan Chow, out of good will follow along the price set for the first few shipments which have already arrived and on the way to the distributors. Then the consumers win, right? The newer Dahon uses better drivetrain units now, I think they have discarded Neos already. For all we care , Tern can have all the Neos, hahahaaa. I agree w u etigge....my personal experince back few yrs ago buying golf clubs in usa where i bought nike sets n ship bek to msia also d same story w bike made fr china.....I don't know Guan Chow will bring back the Dahon Curve as 16 inch wheelers are getting really hot now. Easy to fold and carry into LRTs. Let's hope thy do. But it's easily obtained in Singapore and Bangkok. We as d end use sure happy if their price go haywire....let these company hv ' war' among themselfs so bikers can get some durian runtuh prices.....higher prices keeps people away fr taking up d sports....tis is wat happened to golf sports those days....now its more affordable n d volume of player also increase... |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Nov 27 2014, 10:39 PM) Got myself a Dahon Vybe fr Kimbell Jaya which is a great bike for a newbie like me. Have been riding it alternate days and decided 2 pimp my ride by adding some accessories like rear light, Cateye Velo Wireless+ and mirror. Also ordered a front light which hopefully is on the way Waaa good safety feature ......i m gonna get them too n a bag to tapau d bike... |
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[quote=frankie chin,Nov 27 2014, 09:28 PM]
[quote=kof91,Nov 27 2014, 09:31 PM] dr hon and dahon route both rm899 hummer is rm699 Which one is worth it? I am new to bicycle, wan to look for a nice ride for leisure but shop boss keep recommending me the first 2 bikes.. [/quot for me i go 4 dahon [/quote] Both are 2nd hand, dunno where to check for market price here... |
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QUOTE(kof91 @ Nov 28 2014, 12:09 AM) For that price, u might as well buy a new 1. U can checkout following :http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/251427/dr-hon-vybe-c7a The price can still nego ... Cheers ! |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Nov 28 2014, 06:53 AM) For that price, u might as well buy a new 1. U can checkout following : ahh thanks.. but I am in Johor, any good shop to recommend in Johor/JB region?http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/251427/dr-hon-vybe-c7a The price can still nego ... Cheers ! |
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![]() alhamdulillah, my transformation already complete.so this is my bike spec Tern Verge P9 TRANSFORM X20 Sram Red 53/39 172.5mm Carbon Crank Sram Red FD Sram Force RD Sram PG1050 Casette 11-28 Sram x5 10speed shifter Token Ball Bearings Bottom Bracket PY 10speed Chain Token Sealed Bearing Alluminium RD Pulley Spinner OEM High Profile Red Rims Schwalbe Kojak 1.35 Schwalbe Tube Litepro Red Stem Extender Brooks Canbium C17 and some bags, lights etc ![]() ![]() |
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Just checked at Rodalink Bangsar today. They have 2015 Tern models. Some models were Tern Link B7 (RM1190) which is a replacement for Link C7 but without fenders and back carriage.
Others I forgot the models but look similar to Link D8 (but without fenders and carriage). About RM23xx and so. |
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Nov 28 2014, 03:16 PM) yeah I found khassbicycles after some searching, almost tempted to go jb tomorrow until I found a local shop that has dahon vybe for rm1k so I can save the trouble to travel to jb (I am in batu pahat)They also have java TT 7 at rm850 wonder which one should I go for? (I never own a foldable before) As usual they are trying to push some china brand to me instead. |
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Check the lerun dealer list on page one for bike shops.
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Anyone here using verge x10?
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QUOTE(kof91 @ Nov 28 2014, 04:29 PM) yeah I found khassbicycles after some searching, almost tempted to go jb tomorrow until I found a local shop that has dahon vybe for rm1k so I can save the trouble to travel to jb (I am in batu pahat) Best that u buy from nearest dealer. As most Vybe in market now is still 2014 model, u shud try to nego as in KL, some shops r letting it go for ~900. For brand, after personally chatting with a 4 to 5 shops, Dahon is still the better brand as more established. Like u, I am also new 2 foldies and reading from all the sifu comments in this forum, good brands are Dahon, Tern...They also have java TT 7 at rm850 wonder which one should I go for? (I never own a foldable before) As usual they are trying to push some china brand to me instead. |
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Nov 28 2014, 11:59 AM) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cF8ADwQo...218843778_n.jpg alhamdulillah, my transformation already complete.so this is my bike spec Tern Verge P9 TRANSFORM X20 Sram Red 53/39 172.5mm Carbon Crank Sram Red FD Sram Force RD Sram PG1050 Casette 11-28 Sram x5 10speed shifter Token Ball Bearings Bottom Bracket PY 10speed Chain Token Sealed Bearing Alluminium RD Pulley Spinner OEM High Profile Red Rims Schwalbe Kojak 1.35 Schwalbe Tube Litepro Red Stem Extender Brooks Canbium C17 and some bags, lights etc https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4fujgo1g...084665277_n.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bKB3Ysc9...988440085_n.jpg Wah, great specs. U r too far ahead of the game Vs newbies like us. Pls keep us updated on pro and con on your bike transformation so that v can learn fr u ! |
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QUOTE(kof91 @ Nov 28 2014, 04:29 PM) yeah I found khassbicycles after some searching, almost tempted to go jb tomorrow until I found a local shop that has dahon vybe for rm1k so I can save the trouble to travel to jb (I am in batu pahat) Try calling Jimmy (the boss) at Kimbell Jaya at 012-2927636 and enquire. His shipment has just arrived and talk to him. He can also send your bikes to your doorstep. Either you want to tune up yourself or ask him to take out the bike, tune it and pack it back into the box and then send it to you. Even Sarawak and Sabah customers have bought from him. No harm calling him.They also have java TT 7 at rm850 wonder which one should I go for? (I never own a foldable before) As usual they are trying to push some china brand to me instead. |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Nov 28 2014, 09:10 PM) Best that u buy from nearest dealer. As most Vybe in market now is still 2014 model, u shud try to nego as in KL, some shops r letting it go for ~900. For brand, after personally chatting with a 4 to 5 shops, Dahon is still the better brand as more established. Like u, I am also new 2 foldies and reading from all the sifu comments in this forum, good brands are Dahon, Tern... yeah same here.. I read everywhere everyone recommending dahon as beginner bike other brand kinda hard to come by too.QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 28 2014, 09:29 PM) Try calling Jimmy (the boss) at Kimbell Jaya at 012-2927636 and enquire. His shipment has just arrived and talk to him. He can also send your bikes to your doorstep. Either you want to tune up yourself or ask him to take out the bike, tune it and pack it back into the box and then send it to you. Even Sarawak and Sabah customers have bought from him. No harm calling him. okies thanks, will give him a call tomorrow any sifu knows what is the different btw dahon vybe c7s and c7a? also how to tell if the dahon bike component (gear etc) is stock factory component? |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 28 2014, 10:29 PM) Try calling Jimmy (the boss) at Kimbell Jaya at 012-2927636 and enquire. His shipment has just arrived and talk to him. He can also send your bikes to your doorstep. Either you want to tune up yourself or ask him to take out the bike, tune it and pack it back into the box and then send it to you. Even Sarawak and Sabah customers have bought from him. No harm calling him. waa ...like dat good la ...got good new lobang to buy liaw.....10q sifu etigge 4 sharing out w new foldies .....This post has been edited by frankie chin: Nov 28 2014, 10:05 PM |
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any sifu knows what is the different btw dahon vybe c7s and c7a?
also how to tell if the dahon bike component (gear etc) is stock factory component? Same design but different materials. c7s , S is steel ,while the c7a, A is aluminium. S rides better but heavier and it rusts, A is a harsher ride because it's stronger and ridgid but much lighter. If you want to upgrade to 8.9 or 10 speed later, better to get the c7a as the RD hanger is easier to mod while the c7s is just a slim plate and putting on an RD hanger is harder BUT possible. Kimbell Jaya has modded a few before to using Acera RD and shifters, 8 speed. What you buy when the bike comes initially is the stock factory component. This post has been edited by etigge: Nov 28 2014, 10:11 PM |
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btw I also found one oyama foldie looks quite nice too.. shop quoted me 1k as well
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Nov 28 2014, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 28 2014, 10:10 PM) Same design but different materials. c7s , S is steel ,while the c7a, A is aluminium. S rides better but heavier and it rusts, A is a harsher ride because it's stronger and ridgid but much lighter. If you want to upgrade to 8.9 or 10 speed later, better to get the c7a as the RD hanger is easier to mod while the c7s is just a slim plate and putting on an RD hanger is harder BUT possible. Kimbell Jaya has modded a few before to using Acera RD and shifters, 8 speed. I see, I will ask tomorrow, so go for the c7a model, thanks What you buy when the bike comes initially is the stock factory component. QUOTE(frankie chin @ Nov 28 2014, 10:12 PM) see what I mean by poison? |
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Nov 28 2014, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(kof91 @ Nov 28 2014, 11:15 PM) ...hahaha.....1st time sure pening n kan cheong abit lor....since i my target to get 4 more 4 my family ...i go slow2 on purchase as now many poison surfing up liaw....drooling bikes guys tq 4 sharing up..... |
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Nov 28 2014, 10:23 PM
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Nov 29 2014, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(H2D @ Nov 28 2014, 10:23 PM) Ubike frm taiwan.... full carbon that is rm16k ![]() |
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Nov 29 2014, 12:50 PM
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Anyone interested in buying a used Sram x5 RD?
I'm selling one cause it's not compatible with my shifter. http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/273666/sram...ailleur-9-speed |
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Nov 29 2014, 03:32 PM
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Hi. I have a 26" folding bike. Where can I get a cheap bag for the bike so that I can carry into train? Checked in shop, but they are saying it will be RM600. Just too expensive because the bike itself cost that much.
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Nov 29 2014, 04:45 PM
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Nov 29 2014, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Nov 28 2014, 11:09 PM) tested 2day both bikes....my verdict....1.c7a saddle not comfortable compare to raliegh...so i kena change it ... 2.cockpit....dahon 1 more neat lor.... 3. Handle post....raleigh's can b adjust to suit d biker n c7a is fixed..so both has d + -.......but once riding it i feel dat c7a is more solid free.... 4.weight....>< lebih kurang saja. I only tried just a few ride ard my taman ...so 4 long distance kena ask d sifus la..... |
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Nov 29 2014, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(ViRaViRa @ Nov 28 2014, 02:58 PM) Just checked at Rodalink Bangsar today. They have 2015 Tern models. Some models were Tern Link B7 (RM1190) which is a replacement for Link C7 but without fenders and back carriage. Others I forgot the models but look similar to Link D8 (but without fenders and carriage). About RM23xx and so. Few days ago my dahon c7a order came fr rodalink n i found dat it can w fender but as my order its not included in... |
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Nov 29 2014, 10:14 PM
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Nov 29 2014, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(sukabasa @ Nov 29 2014, 11:14 PM) Hi Frankie, your order with rodalink, how long for delivery? a week? Friday noon i bank in $$....next thursday morning i received it...Isn't allow shipping on weekend? Thank you Sorry i think weekend they don deliver... Tis is their online call centre.... 0380610222 Shop price n online price different.... This post has been edited by frankie chin: Nov 29 2014, 10:59 PM |
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Nov 29 2014, 11:04 PM
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Nov 30 2014, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Nov 29 2014, 09:37 PM) Few days ago my dahon c7a order came fr rodalink n i found dat it can w fender but as my order its not included in... I looked at rodalink post and it says "Note: Bikes does not comes with rear carrier & fender*" So I think BikeMalaysia on mudah is cheapest so far with fender. |
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Nov 30 2014, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Nov 30 2014, 08:07 AM) I looked at rodalink post and it says B4 my bike arrived ...i was scouting ard online to look 4 fenders n carrier but then i was suprise when i came bek n saw d fenders attached to it.....mayb it was my lucky day !!"Note: Bikes does not comes with rear carrier & fender*" So I think BikeMalaysia on mudah is cheapest so far with fender. i m sure whos d cheapest but sometimes let d ladies bargain w d taukeh might do d trick....hehe |
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Nov 30 2014, 09:13 AM
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Nov 30 2014, 09:15 AM
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Folding bike can have endless and unlimited upgrades be it aesthetic and/or performance.
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Nov 30 2014, 07:33 PM
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Reporting back in
Went with my fren on sat to nego price for Dahon vybe but my fren ended up buying Java Pro for rm850 (I think it is the same as Java TT 7?) Unfortunately the shop do now allow test drive of vybe, so I am unable to make any comparison. They also refuse to budge on the price for vybe.. so fix price @rm1k.. Tested his Java Pro today, quite nice ride. They also have a higher spec Java Fit (rm1600 way over budget I am getting more confused btw I called Jimmy too, he said 2014 Dahon vybe is completely out of stock but can try and source for 2013 model for me, bout rm60 cheaper compared of getting locally.. This post has been edited by kof91: Nov 30 2014, 07:37 PM |
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Dec 1 2014, 12:28 AM
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Anyone here could help to point out which shop can get Java Fit 16 speed at good price?
Currently the cheapest I've seen is RM1.6k give or take RM20.. This post has been edited by hakumiyashi: Dec 1 2014, 12:41 AM |
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Dec 1 2014, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Nov 28 2014, 09:14 PM) Wah, great specs. U r too far ahead of the game Vs newbies like us. Pls keep us updated on pro and con on your bike transformation so that v can learn fr u ! tq bro,not in expert league but more in try n error phase.still much more to learning.sometimes being gearhead also kena tapau with 6speed alloy unknown brand folding bike when climbing up hills... |
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Dec 2 2014, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 1 2014, 11:26 AM) tq bro, Bro, I have same problem with the legs, therefore, now avoiding steep climbs and just sticking to the taman circuit. Oredi very challenging with some moderate climbs, staying clear of the potholes and not being knocked over by cars not in expert league but more in try n error phase.still much more to learning.sometimes being gearhead also kena tapau with 6speed alloy unknown brand folding bike when climbing up hills... |
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Dec 2 2014, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(hakumiyashi @ Dec 1 2014, 12:28 AM) Anyone here could help to point out which shop can get Java Fit 16 speed at good price? Most dealers on BBS are advertising close to 1.6k but u can still get additional 5 to 10% off when you go their shop. Sometimes they may not lower the price but will throw 1 or 2 freebies, eg. bottle cage or give u higher discounts on accessories. Anyway, u shud also buy it from a shop that u r comfortable with and also conveniently located for u to follow-up if there's a problem with the bike, service etc... Good luck anyway on your hunt !Currently the cheapest I've seen is RM1.6k give or take RM20.. |
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Dec 2 2014, 10:50 AM
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Dec 2 2014, 05:28 PM
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Power! Where did you buy your chainrings?
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Dec 3 2014, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Dec 2 2014, 05:28 PM) i didnt buy any chainring bos.i buy 1 whole crank shimano sora 50/34 since vybe stock crank size 46t..long time i didnt put fd and i manually change from 50t to 34t and so on,so yesterday i decided to put an fd to make it easy |
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Dec 3 2014, 02:20 PM
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Oh ya the Vybe stock crank is smaller.. So now you can go faster with the additional 50T! Hehe
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Dec 3 2014, 02:28 PM
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Dec 3 2014, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 2 2014, 01:09 AM) Bro, I have same problem with the legs, therefore, now avoiding steep climbs and just sticking to the taman circuit. Oredi very challenging with some moderate climbs, staying clear of the potholes and not being knocked over by cars i like to cycle a lot,so wanna try many things and many road even climbing.if cannot tahan,than i step down and tolak my bike |
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Dec 3 2014, 03:40 PM
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Dec 3 2014, 04:29 PM
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Hi. Want to ask opinion. I need a folding bike but I got rm500 only.
Need a transport to get around my campus faster. I hate walking. But the problem is my campus is full of steep hill. With the specs mentioned, can these bikes climb well? Sorry I have zero knowledge about bicycle gears. http://www.groupon.my/deals/national-deal/...T_Goods-3&nlp=1 http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/240092/trs-20-08-folding-bike http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/232104/trs-...um-folding-bike http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....bucket=8#detail Which is the best? Or any other recommendation? Should I save more money? |
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Dec 3 2014, 07:23 PM
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if u live on campus
buy a cheap used mtb with wider gear range, if u can just lock the bike on campus, no nid to bring home, no one will curi, cos used beat mtb tarak org mau... later u can sell to junior.. |
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Dec 3 2014, 10:14 PM
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any user of dahon dash p18 here?
there is sales for dash p18, which cost around ($850=rm2200) in s'pore. thinking to get one, any review |
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Dec 3 2014, 11:19 PM
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dash p18?
old models yes, new disk brake model... no... unless u really love minivelos n wans one which can fold.... |
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Dec 4 2014, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 3 2014, 11:19 PM) Why buy there when you can get here at the same price! In fact I can arrange cheaper for you, not much lab, maybe round figure. because currently working in singapore. i'm planning to get a foldie for a long time,haih.. saw the p18 discount from 1300 to 850, thought is a good deal. |
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Dec 4 2014, 04:25 AM
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Feeling gatal to upgrade the stock V brakes in my Tern Link D8 but not willing to fork out too much.
Any comments on the Avid FR 5 levers and perhaps Single digit 3 brakes? They seem rather affordable. And would I really feel a difference? |
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Dec 4 2014, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(CreamMilk @ Dec 3 2014, 03:40 PM) few of the things i DIY it.but the fd setting i ask my friend to set it up.its hard to set the fd.nearly 3 hours to get the perfect setup! shop will charge below rm50 to setup fd,i ask before |
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Dec 4 2014, 09:09 AM
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hello.
ok x garion folding bike dlm groupon offer? your thoughts guys? just want to take it around for a spin in my taman. |
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Dec 4 2014, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(youze @ Dec 4 2014, 09:09 AM) hello. looks like ok lahok x garion folding bike dlm groupon offer? your thoughts guys? just want to take it around for a spin in my taman. but my opinionlah,better survey local shop also.my friend got alloy bike 6 speed for only rm350 compare to garion is steel... others look the same |
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Dec 4 2014, 06:14 PM
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ic thx for the tips
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Dec 4 2014, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Dec 4 2014, 04:25 AM) Feeling gatal to upgrade the stock V brakes in my Tern Link D8 but not willing to fork out too much. Although they are now made in China, the Avid SD3 and the FR5 levers are OK, quite decent. Another plus point is they are light too. Any comments on the Avid FR 5 levers and perhaps Single digit 3 brakes? They seem rather affordable. And would I really feel a difference? |
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Dec 4 2014, 07:19 PM
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Oh ya shimano Deore v brakes. I think I remember you offered to sell to me back then when I came to your place. Hmm it's a bit out of budget for me though cause I've got two bikes to mod.
Since sifu etigge says the avids are decent I shall go for it then! |
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I'm thinking of converting to road drop bar but the problem is the 31.8mm diameter..
The closest solution I found so far is using the LitePro double stem but that only accomodate 25.4mm diameter. Anyone has better solution? Has anyone spotted 25.4mm to 31.8mm double stem selling anywhere in Malaysia? |
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Dec 4 2014, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(hakumiyashi @ Dec 4 2014, 07:32 PM) I'm thinking of converting to road drop bar but the problem is the 31.8mm diameter.. Most standard drop bars are now 31.8mm but during those days, the standard was 25.4mm. They do still have this but it's quite hard to find new. Search for Nitto dropbars and they still make 25.4mm dropbars. else you need to order OBErsea lorr. What to do? The closest solution I found so far is using the LitePro double stem but that only accomodate 25.4mm diameter. Anyone has better solution? Has anyone spotted 25.4mm to 31.8mm double stem selling anywhere in Malaysia? |
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Dec 4 2014, 11:53 PM
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which folding bike is suitable for touring, planning to bring it to the chiang mai-mae hong son loop next year. the journey is about 800km, lot of mountain road(tar road).
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Dec 5 2014, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(akioen @ Dec 4 2014, 11:53 PM) which folding bike is suitable for touring, planning to bring it to the chiang mai-mae hong son loop next year. the journey is about 800km, lot of mountain road(tar road). A Dahon Speed P8 souped up to 18 speed or 20 speed ( but having a 27 speed is advantageous too) would be good. The ride is comfy and the frame able to withstand. I even used it on the Thompson trail in Cameron Highlands. A Dahon Vybe C7A is also quite robust. |
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QUOTE(hakumiyashi @ Dec 4 2014, 07:32 PM) I'm thinking of converting to road drop bar but the problem is the 31.8mm diameter.. taobao got a lot mar..The closest solution I found so far is using the LitePro double stem but that only accomodate 25.4mm diameter. Anyone has better solution? Has anyone spotted 25.4mm to 31.8mm double stem selling anywhere in Malaysia? these days anything oso taobao... hardly buying anything from shops liao... http://s.taobao.com/search?q=25.4+%B9%AB%C...ourceId=tb.item |
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QUOTE(hakumiyashi @ Dec 4 2014, 07:32 PM) I'm thinking of converting to road drop bar but the problem is the 31.8mm diameter.. my friend use the fixie dropbar/bull horn with the litepro.still cheaper solution for me to get..The closest solution I found so far is using the LitePro double stem but that only accomodate 25.4mm diameter. Anyone has better solution? Has anyone spotted 25.4mm to 31.8mm double stem selling anywhere in Malaysia? |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 28 2014, 10:10 PM) any sifu knows what is the different btw dahon vybe c7s and c7a? Sifu, for c7a, what crankset & FD do you recommend which is also not too expensive ? Who will be best to do the mod ? Jimmy of Kimbell Jaya ?also how to tell if the dahon bike component (gear etc) is stock factory component? Same design but different materials. c7s , S is steel ,while the c7a, A is aluminium. S rides better but heavier and it rusts, A is a harsher ride because it's stronger and ridgid but much lighter. If you want to upgrade to 8.9 or 10 speed later, better to get the c7a as the RD hanger is easier to mod while the c7s is just a slim plate and putting on an RD hanger is harder BUT possible. Kimbell Jaya has modded a few before to using Acera RD and shifters, 8 speed. What you buy when the bike comes initially is the stock factory component. |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 5 2014, 07:51 PM) Sifu, for c7a, what crankset & FD do you recommend which is also not too expensive ? Who will be best to do the mod ? Jimmy of Kimbell Jaya ? Forgot to mention that I want to improve bike climbing performance. If changing the crankset is not the solution, then what else do u recommend ? |
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Dec 5 2014, 08:55 PM
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Best to do the mod of cos will b sifu etige la... haha...
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Dec 5 2014, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 5 2014, 07:51 PM) Sifu, for c7a, what crankset & FD do you recommend which is also not too expensive ? Who will be best to do the mod ? Jimmy of Kimbell Jaya ? I think Jimmy can solve it for you. It's not too expensive ( I think he has some unbranded one 53/39T) and he also has the adapters and FD. Just visit him and check it out. This post has been edited by etigge: Dec 5 2014, 09:34 PM |
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Hi guys,
I'm actually new into cycling..thinking folding bike will b a good start..can start cycling around my taman first before venturing to further places like putrajaya wetlands etc May I check what's a good beginner bike? I did some surveys n read a lot from forum..someone mentioned abt oscar as it has it's own workshop to repair if any issues.. Is Oscar imagine a good buy then? Can't c any 2nd hand Raleigh uno.. Aleocca seems to be more inferior... Dun wan to spend so much money as not sure whether I'll be committed.. Thanks guys! |
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Wah where u read oscar got workshop? I oso interested....
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 5 2014, 12:00 AM) A Dahon Speed P8 souped up to 18 speed or 20 speed ( but having a 27 speed is advantageous too) would be good. The ride is comfy and the frame able to withstand. I even used it on the Thompson trail in Cameron Highlands. A Dahon Vybe C7A is also quite robust. how about the new model Dahon Speed D8?This post has been edited by akioen: Dec 6 2014, 04:22 PM |
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Dec 6 2014, 06:20 PM
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Hi sifus. Newbie here and i will be purchasing a new dahon vybe as soon as stock is available. Since the vybe comes only with 7 speed, im thinking of upgrading it in the near future to higher speed. What are my options and whats the cost like? Do i need to change the wheel set as well?
Bro azamunekurone seems to have sucessfully upgraded his vybe, mind to share some info? Appreciate any replies |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 5 2014, 09:31 PM) I think Jimmy can solve it for you. It's not too expensive ( I think he has some unbranded one 53/39T) and he also has the adapters and FD. Just visit him and check it out. Thanks Sifu for the advise... and ya, if still hv problem climbing slopes with the granny gears, then I really need |
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Dec 6 2014, 10:46 PM
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Dec 7 2014, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(akioen @ Dec 6 2014, 10:46 PM) Just slightly higher than Malaysia. If convenience is the factor, it should be OK. Why don't you hunt around in Togoparts if there's any used unit? Most Singaporean bikes are in good condition, they don't ride much and also many of them are upgraded with really nice components.www.togoparts.com>MARKETPLACE>Folding and Commuting Complete Bikes |
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Dec 7 2014, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 6 2014, 09:15 PM) Thanks Sifu for the advise... and ya, if still hv problem climbing slopes with the granny gears, then I really need First you must understand the theory of using the gears. Many misunderstand and starts freewheeling themselves till they get cramps Presume, you ride a bike, let's say in a gym or riding on a flat ground. Choose a setting where you can ride comfortably without stressing. Eg. 53T front x 15T (usually 3rd gear). With this you ride just casually and you can ride for say 30 minutes without stopping and it doesn't really tire you out. Now! as you ride you came to a gradual slope and the pedaling gets a bit hard, so, you shift into lower gear (means bigger gears at the rear) Eg. 24T (that's the 6th gear) and at this ratio, you get back the same pedal force you exert at the flat roads. You stay at this ratio and never ride even lower gear that many riders tend to do! You shift at the same pedal force that you are comfortable with. And then you hit an even more steeper slope , so you shift up until you get the same force you exert at the flat roads. So, further on , you come to an even more steep and you have shifted to the last low gear 32T and you still can't get to the same pedalling effort, then you ran out of gears. Here, you either have to push harder till you cannot continue and push lorr. Over time, you improve, first your pedalling effort can go harder and also your time frame , you can pedal longer like 2 hours continuous or maybe more. That's how we train, slow and patiently. If you just rush in 'gung ho' style and get yourself all cramp up, you will think cycling is lousy and give up! Hahahaa |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 7 2014, 12:37 AM) First you must understand the theory of using the gears. Many misunderstand and starts freewheeling themselves till they get cramps Thanks for the great explanation Presume, you ride a bike, let's say in a gym or riding on a flat ground. Choose a setting where you can ride comfortably without stressing. Eg. 53T front x 15T (usually 3rd gear). With this you ride just casually and you can ride for say 30 minutes without stopping and it doesn't really tire you out. Now! as you ride you came to a gradual slope and the pedaling gets a bit hard, so, you shift into lower gear (means bigger gears at the rear) Eg. 24T (that's the 6th gear) and at this ratio, you get back the same pedal force you exert at the flat roads. You stay at this ratio and never ride even lower gear that many riders tend to do! You shift at the same pedal force that you are comfortable with. And then you hit an even more steeper slope , so you shift up until you get the same force you exert at the flat roads. So, further on , you come to an even more steep and you have shifted to the last low gear 32T and you still can't get to the same pedalling effort, then you ran out of gears. Here, you either have to push harder till you cannot continue and push lorr. Over time, you improve, first your pedalling effort can go harder and also your time frame , you can pedal longer like 2 hours continuous or maybe more. That's how we train, slow and patiently. If you just rush in 'gung ho' style and get yourself all cramp up, you will think cycling is lousy and give up! Hahahaa |
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Dec 8 2014, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 7 2014, 08:21 PM) Thanks for the great explanation Yes, it is done before but it depends on your present crank now. If you see 5 lock nuts on the crank holding the chain ring, then you can just buy the smaller 39T (130BCD) chainring and bolt onto the present set up BUT if your present chain ring is the one piece type (means the chain ring cannot be taken out), then you have to buy another crank which cost quite substantial. The cheapest I notice is about RM180 for double chainring. Then the FD adapter and the FD itself and finally the shifter which are sold in pairs. On the other hand if you mod the rear first, you need an RD, shifter (also a pair), a cassette and new chain and cable. Let me do the calculation again, Gear inches is our aim. Simplified means, the bigger the number, the lower the gear and also the easier it is to pedal, in the expense of speed of course. You cannot have both. OK, let's say you maintain the rear setup and modify a second chain ring. So it's 52/39T with 13/28T at the rear. For this the GI is , 80.00 GI to 27.85 GI, so that is a gain of 9.19 GI on the lower gear spectrum but no change on the higher gear. OK, now let's say you go for the 10 speed rear modifications. The rear cassette ranges from 11T (which gives you more speed, you can even pedal when you are going downhill) to 34T. With this the GI will range from 94.54 GI to 30.58 GI. With this you gain 6.56 GI on the lower gear BUT you gain 14.54 GI on the higher gear. Means you can ride faster on flats and downhill. Also sometimes with more gers the ratio gaps are smaller making gear changes fluid. Like with less gears, eg. your pedaling becomes hard so you shift to lower gear but one notch higher the pedaling becomes to free. That's why roadbike gears are near! In the end, if you have modded the rear and now also modded the front as well, the range is from 94.54 GI to 22.94 GI. ![]() |
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Dec 8 2014, 02:13 PM
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This weekend (starts from Friday) , we have a ride from Tapah Road (the railway station) to Teluk Intan. There we put up a night and next morning we ride to Sitiawan and also put up a night there. The last day Sunday, we will ride to Batu Gajah and then take the train back to Tapah Road. There are a few pullouts from this ride and there are a few empty slots. Anyone interested in riding this weekend? The road is quite flat but the distance is 30 km, 70 km and 63 km respectively. It will be fun! Anyone interested PM me.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 8 2014, 02:13 PM) This weekend (starts from Friday) , we have a ride from Tapah Road (the railway station) to Teluk Intan. There we put up a night and next morning we ride to Sitiawan and also put up a night there. The last day Sunday, we will ride to Batu Gajah and then take the train back to Tapah Road. There are a few pullouts from this ride and there are a few empty slots. Anyone interested in riding this weekend? The road is quite flat but the distance is 30 km, 70 km and 63 km respectively. It will be fun! Anyone interested PM me. aiyoooo...got work to do on weekend,otherwise will join u |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 4 2014, 07:56 PM) Most standard drop bars are now 31.8mm but during those days, the standard was 25.4mm. They do still have this but it's quite hard to find new. Search for Nitto dropbars and they still make 25.4mm dropbars. else you need to order OBErsea lorr. What to do? QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 5 2014, 01:12 AM) taobao got a lot mar.. these days anything oso taobao... hardly buying anything from shops liao... http://s.taobao.com/search?q=25.4+%B9%AB%C...ourceId=tb.item QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 5 2014, 08:32 AM) Thanks for all the input!Continuing to head toward road bike set up... Maybe next is getting good 451 wheelset and tyre! |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 8 2014, 02:06 PM) Yes, it is done before but it depends on your present crank now. If you see 5 lock nuts on the crank holding the chain ring, then you can just buy the smaller 39T (130BCD) chainring and bolt onto the present set up BUT if your present chain ring is the one piece type (means the chain ring cannot be taken out), then you have to buy another crank which cost quite substantial. The cheapest I notice is about RM180 for double chainring. Then the FD adapter and the FD itself and finally the shifter which are sold in pairs. This is good information. Thank you etigge.On the other hand if you mod the rear first, you need an RD, shifter (also a pair), a cassette and new chain and cable. Let me do the calculation again, Gear inches is our aim. Simplified means, the bigger the number, the lower the gear and also the easier it is to pedal, in the expense of speed of course. You cannot have both. OK, let's say you maintain the rear setup and modify a second chain ring. So it's 52/39T with 13/28T at the rear. For this the GI is , 80.00 GI to 27.85 GI, so that is a gain of 9.19 GI on the lower gear spectrum but no change on the higher gear. OK, now let's say you go for the 10 speed rear modifications. The rear cassette ranges from 11T (which gives you more speed, you can even pedal when you are going downhill) to 34T. With this the GI will range from 94.54 GI to 30.58 GI. With this you gain 6.56 GI on the lower gear BUT you gain 14.54 GI on the higher gear. Means you can ride faster on flats and downhill. Also sometimes with more gers the ratio gaps are smaller making gear changes fluid. Like with less gears, eg. your pedaling becomes hard so you shift to lower gear but one notch higher the pedaling becomes to free. That's why roadbike gears are near! In the end, if you have modded the rear and now also modded the front as well, the range is from 94.54 GI to 22.94 GI. ![]() |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 6 2014, 09:08 PM) Hi sifus. Newbie here and i will be purchasing a new dahon vybe as soon as stock is available. Since the vybe comes only with 7 speed, im thinking of upgrading it in the near future to higher speed. What are my options and whats the cost like? Do i need to change the wheel set as well? aiyokBro azamunekurone seems to have sucessfully upgraded his vybe, mind to share some info? Appreciate any replies didnt notice this,..sori ok,vybe is a bike that u need to spent more to upgrade bcoz of the wheels.unless u can get boardwalk d8 or speed p8 if im not mistaken its freehub wheel 1st and for all the wheelset.if u can find cheapo wheelset as long as it use freehub with quick release and not freewheel.the freewheel like original vybe and only can use up to 8 speed max. like me, im using novatech hub coz dont want tu change the wheelset.besides,this hub is for mtb diskbrek got 32hole and i bought it quite cheap rather than change the wheelset.so i change it,but the front fork u need to force it open to fit the hub.original vybe wheel are 28spoke,so there is no problemo using 32hole hub! after change the wheelset,u are open to upgrade what ever u want for me i used 9 speed 11-25 sunrace cassette pairing with shimano sora RD taken out from my verge p9.oh ya,not to forget you must find hanger for rd also as neos rd are place in front.as for the crank i use shimano sora also,but this one its a compact crank sizing 50/34 bought 2nd.this is the reason why im pairing with road cassette rather than mtb cassette.as for the FD i also use the Sora and bought some cheapo rm40 hanger unbrand from the net.setting the fd its hard and took 3 hours to tune it right by my friend. as for shifter,shimano have an option to use hybrid flat bar shifter for road but the price is quite pricey!so i took an alternative using the mtb shifter so i bought shimano alvio shifters. so the cost rought estimated i upgred for current setup: Shimano alvio shifter RM150 Shimano Sora FD RM100 FD Hanger RM40 RD Hanger RM30 Shimano Sora 50/34 Crank RM100 (new price is RM250 and comes with BB) Shimano 105 Hollow BB FOC took from my 105 groupset Shimano Sora RD FOC took from verge p9 (new price is around RM150) Novatech Hub RM50 (new is around RM300) Jagwire Cable Housing - RM30 (i use only for gear and not the brakes) Schwalbe Marathon Racer 1.50 - RM85 for pair (new is RM85/unit) Avid brake lever FOC took from verge p9 (new price RM70/pair) Sram grips RM40 so the total cost is around RM625 consider some used parts lah.not to mention my front and rear rack and other accessories like Brooks saddle,bags and so on lah |
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 9 2014, 11:15 AM) aiyok Woohoo..thanks for the detailed explanation(big thank you). This really get me thinking if i should get another bike instead of the vybe. I decided on the vybe because i like the frame design and that its made of alu which doesnt rust but i did hear that its gona be more work and money to upgrade the gearing system on vybe compared to other bikes but definately wasnt expecting this haha. Will the difficulty level of upgrading the gearing system on a broadwalk be much lower and any cheaper? Or maybe if i show the specs that you typed earlier to the kedai basikal i wonder if they are willing to do it for me lol. Im sure its gona cost me a more significant amount too since i have 0 kangtaodidnt notice this,..sori ok,vybe is a bike that u need to spent more to upgrade bcoz of the wheels.unless u can get boardwalk d8 or speed p8 if im not mistaken its freehub wheel 1st and for all the wheelset.if u can find cheapo wheelset as long as it use freehub with quick release and not freewheel.the freewheel like original vybe and only can use up to 8 speed max. like me, im using novatech hub coz dont want tu change the wheelset.besides,this hub is for mtb diskbrek got 32hole and i bought it quite cheap rather than change the wheelset.so i change it,but the front fork u need to force it open to fit the hub.original vybe wheel are 28spoke,so there is no problemo using 32hole hub! after change the wheelset,u are open to upgrade what ever u want for me i used 9 speed 11-25 sunrace cassette pairing with shimano sora RD taken out from my verge p9.oh ya,not to forget you must find hanger for rd also as neos rd are place in front.as for the crank i use shimano sora also,but this one its a compact crank sizing 50/34 bought 2nd.this is the reason why im pairing with road cassette rather than mtb cassette.as for the FD i also use the Sora and bought some cheapo rm40 hanger unbrand from the net.setting the fd its hard and took 3 hours to tune it right by my friend. as for shifter,shimano have an option to use hybrid flat bar shifter for road but the price is quite pricey!so i took an alternative using the mtb shifter so i bought shimano alvio shifters. so the cost rought estimated i upgred for current setup: Shimano alvio shifter RM150 Shimano Sora FD RM100 FD Hanger RM40 RD Hanger RM30 Shimano Sora 50/34 Crank RM100 (new price is RM250 and comes with BB) Shimano 105 Hollow BB FOC took from my 105 groupset Shimano Sora RD FOC took from verge p9 (new price is around RM150) Novatech Hub RM50 (new is around RM300) Jagwire Cable Housing - RM30 (i use only for gear and not the brakes) Schwalbe Marathon Racer 1.50 - RM85 for pair (new is RM85/unit) Avid brake lever FOC took from verge p9 (new price RM70/pair) Sram grips RM40 so the total cost is around RM625 consider some used parts lah.not to mention my front and rear rack and other accessories like Brooks saddle,bags and so on lah |
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QUOTE(ajoi57 @ Dec 9 2014, 06:57 PM) Looks cool but check out the price dayum http://www.loopwheels.com/shop/ |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 9 2014, 07:31 PM) lol yeah i check out the website after asking. |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 7 2014, 12:23 AM) Just slightly higher than Malaysia. If convenience is the factor, it should be OK. Why don't you hunt around in Togoparts if there's any used unit? Most Singaporean bikes are in good condition, they don't ride much and also many of them are upgraded with really nice components. what is the cheapest price i can get in KL for Speed P8? I might go to kl in this 3 weeks?www.togoparts.com>MARKETPLACE>Folding and Commuting Complete Bikes Is it wise to get it in kl rather than s'pore? how frequent it requires for servicing? |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 9 2014, 04:56 PM) Woohoo..thanks for the detailed explanation(big thank you). This really get me thinking if i should get another bike instead of the vybe. I decided on the vybe because i like the frame design and that its made of alu which doesnt rust but i did hear that its gona be more work and money to upgrade the gearing system on vybe compared to other bikes but definately wasnt expecting this haha. Will the difficulty level of upgrading the gearing system on a broadwalk be much lower and any cheaper? Or maybe if i show the specs that you typed earlier to the kedai basikal i wonder if they are willing to do it for me lol. Im sure its gona cost me a more significant amount too since i have 0 kangtao never tried the boardwalk d8 coz no body own it in ipoh. but for me if u wanna cheaper upgred,just upgrade the crank.from single chainring to double chainring.its more efficient and economy rather than upgrade the cassette only..just think,from 7 @ 8 speed,u will get 14 @ 16 speed and many different ratio by just upgrading the crank.depends on people.few person i met like folding with single chainring only.. i love my vybe,and its a cool frame design with some curvy straight shape without a chainstay (cheaper compare to MU models with no chainstay).i wont sell it in the future,but maybe will give it to my sister as for now im funding for a new speed p8 for touring purpose! In my point of view i you love the frame bro,just bought it.for me frame are important.other parts can upgrade later.slowly see buy n sell and find many cheap2 parts and upgrade ur bike.lucky here in malaysia we cannot buy only frame for folding bike |
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Dear All~~
I owned a Tern D8 with the N Fold mechanism~~ Recently i have an off road trip around Taman Wetland Putrajaya and some how dropped the REAR MAGNET of my bike~~ So when folded, the front and back was not able to "stick" together... Checked with Vans Urban from where i bought the bike and they told me that the distributor does not carry the part and i would have to wait (indefinitely)....without the bloody magnet the bike just feel....incomplete~~ Would like to seek help from all fellow bikers here for help and recommendation~~ This post has been edited by terryble: Dec 10 2014, 11:31 AM |
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QUOTE(akioen @ Dec 10 2014, 07:57 AM) what is the cheapest price i can get in KL for Speed P8? I might go to kl in this 3 weeks? wow,Is it wise to get it in kl rather than s'pore? how frequent it requires for servicing? the new speed p8 on stock ka?i heard january will have stock QUOTE(terryble @ Dec 10 2014, 11:30 AM) Dear All~~ try contact billy bike shop through fb.last week i ask they had stock for the magnets for only RM25/pair I owned a Tern D8 with the N Fold mechanism~~ Recently i have an off road trip around Taman Wetland Putrajaya and some how dropped the REAR MAGNET of my bike~~ So when folded, the front and back was not able to "stick" together... Checked with Vans Urban from where i bought the bike and they told me that the distributor does not carry the part and i would have to wait (indefinitely)....without the bloody magnet the bike just feel....incomplete~~ Would like to seek help from all fellow bikers here for help and recommendation~~ |
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taobao got a lot if u can't get frm billy... he oso get frm taobao.... hehehe...
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 10 2014, 08:50 AM) never tried the boardwalk d8 coz no body own it in ipoh. When you say to upgrade the crank..the crank is the part where the peddal is connected and the front gear disc right? So i can add a piece of crank to it, a derrailuer and a shifter to it and it will get me to 16 speed right since the the bike is 8 speed? Also if i add a smaller disc crank at the front, i realize i will now have 16 gear choices, but will this makes my bike go faster or will it make climbing easier? My guess is climbing will be easier right? Also i wonder why would ppl prefer single chainring rather than 2 as with 2 you will get more gear choices. Haha sorry im realy newbie.but for me if u wanna cheaper upgred,just upgrade the crank.from single chainring to double chainring.its more efficient and economy rather than upgrade the cassette only..just think,from 7 @ 8 speed,u will get 14 @ 16 speed and many different ratio by just upgrading the crank.depends on people.few person i met like folding with single chainring only.. i love my vybe,and its a cool frame design with some curvy straight shape without a chainstay (cheaper compare to MU models with no chainstay).i wont sell it in the future,but maybe will give it to my sister as for now im funding for a new speed p8 for touring purpose! In my point of view i you love the frame bro,just bought it.for me frame are important.other parts can upgrade later.slowly see buy n sell and find many cheap2 parts and upgrade ur bike.lucky here in malaysia we cannot buy only frame for folding bike For the broadwalk i did some reading and i found that its much easier if you wana upgrade the gearing. So i assume its opposite of what vybe is and you dont need to change wheel set. Its only a few hundred difference but i really like vybe frame alot. So if its possible to just add 1 or 2 crank disc at the front that will give me option of 16 to 24 speed. That sounds like a huge upgrade haha |
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http://handsonbike.blogspot.com/p/dahon-boardwalk-x20-r.html this guy spend lotsa of $$$ to upgrade good info |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 10 2014, 02:11 PM) When you say to upgrade the crank..the crank is the part where the peddal is connected and the front gear disc right? So i can add a piece of crank to it, a derrailuer and a shifter to it and it will get me to 16 speed right since the the bike is 8 speed? Also if i add a smaller disc crank at the front, i realize i will now have 16 gear choices, but will this makes my bike go faster or will it make climbing easier? My guess is climbing will be easier right? Also i wonder why would ppl prefer single chainring rather than 2 as with 2 you will get more gear choices. Haha sorry im realy newbie. yap,For the broadwalk i did some reading and i found that its much easier if you wana upgrade the gearing. So i assume its opposite of what vybe is and you dont need to change wheel set. Its only a few hundred difference but i really like vybe frame alot. So if its possible to just add 1 or 2 crank disc at the front that will give me option of 16 to 24 speed. That sounds like a huge upgrade haha the crank is the disk connected to the pedal.vybe original crank cannot add a new disk @ chanring besides the big one.oh ya,not to mention original vybe crank size 46t.so the option u will adopt to buy a new crank @ 2nd with complete sealed bearing bb @ hollow bb size 50/34 or 53/39 or 56/42. when u upgrade the crank,add on shifter and fd+fd hanger u will add more gear versatile and its easy for climbing and speed since the new crank are bigger than the stock one.. if i dont have any parts option on the time i upgrade my vybe, of coz i will find 8speed cogs, http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/254079/...-34t-screw-type put double chainring crank,install the fd with shifter and get the 16speed gear for the vybe without changing the hub.plus,the stock 7speed rd can tune up to 8speed without changing the rd.. |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 10 2014, 02:11 PM) When you say to upgrade the crank..the crank is the part where the peddal is connected and the front gear disc right? So i can add a piece of crank to it, a derrailuer and a shifter to it and it will get me to 16 speed right since the the bike is 8 speed? Also if i add a smaller disc crank at the front, i realize i will now have 16 gear choices, but will this makes my bike go faster or will it make climbing easier? My guess is climbing will be easier right? Also i wonder why would ppl prefer single chainring rather than 2 as with 2 you will get more gear choices. Haha sorry im realy newbie. for starter you can try something like this first.. cheap and you dont need to replace bb for dahon. or if you stay somewhere nearby bayan baru penang you can come and take my old crank it has double chainring(disk) but 1 side only lah bcoz last time i made mistake and ruined the non crank side.For the broadwalk i did some reading and i found that its much easier if you wana upgrade the gearing. So i assume its opposite of what vybe is and you dont need to change wheel set. Its only a few hundred difference but i really like vybe frame alot. So if its possible to just add 1 or 2 crank disc at the front that will give me option of 16 to 24 speed. That sounds like a huge upgrade haha http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/254652/...-hybrid-folding |
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QUOTE(mbax @ Dec 10 2014, 02:49 PM) for starter you can try something like this first.. cheap and you dont need to replace bb for dahon. or if you stay somewhere nearby bayan baru penang you can come and take my old crank it has double chainring(disk) but 1 side only lah bcoz last time i made mistake and ruined the non crank side. original vybe crank+bb its not a sealed bearing type of bb.its a low grade type of bearing..so better change the bb also http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/254652/...-hybrid-folding |
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thanks azamunekurone...
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 10 2014, 02:48 PM) yap, I have truely been enlightened by your inputs. Thanks so much sifu. I think this will be my approach to upgrade my bike and i cant wait.the crank is the disk connected to the pedal.vybe original crank cannot add a new disk @ chanring besides the big one.oh ya,not to mention original vybe crank size 46t.so the option u will adopt to buy a new crank @ 2nd with complete sealed bearing bb @ hollow bb size 50/34 or 53/39 or 56/42. when u upgrade the crank,add on shifter and fd+fd hanger u will add more gear versatile and its easy for climbing and speed since the new crank are bigger than the stock one.. if i dont have any parts option on the time i upgrade my vybe, of coz i will find 8speed cogs, http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/254079/...-34t-screw-type put double chainring crank,install the fd with shifter and get the 16speed gear for the vybe without changing the hub.plus,the stock 7speed rd can tune up to 8speed without changing the rd.. |
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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Dec 10 2014, 02:20 PM) for boardwalk D8 upgrade: Wtf! Those upgrades looks cool. That shift with electric wires does it mean its electronic shifters? I didnt know it existed gahahttp://handsonbike.blogspot.com/p/dahon-boardwalk-x20-r.html this guy spend lotsa of $$$ to upgrade good info |
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QUOTE(mbax @ Dec 10 2014, 02:49 PM) for starter you can try something like this first.. cheap and you dont need to replace bb for dahon. or if you stay somewhere nearby bayan baru penang you can come and take my old crank it has double chainring(disk) but 1 side only lah bcoz last time i made mistake and ruined the non crank side. Thanks sifu you are so kind. Penang too far..im in kl hahahttp://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/254652/...-hybrid-folding |
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QUOTE(terryble @ Dec 10 2014, 11:30 AM) Dear All~~ How can the magnet just drop off like that? This is not a very good design.I owned a Tern D8 with the N Fold mechanism~~ Recently i have an off road trip around Taman Wetland Putrajaya and some how dropped the REAR MAGNET of my bike~~ So when folded, the front and back was not able to "stick" together... Checked with Vans Urban from where i bought the bike and they told me that the distributor does not carry the part and i would have to wait (indefinitely)....without the bloody magnet the bike just feel....incomplete~~ Would like to seek help from all fellow bikers here for help and recommendation~~ |
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QUOTE(budgee @ Dec 10 2014, 09:37 PM) it could be my fault also~~ but i really dun know when it is dropped~~ only until finished the trail and try to fold it only i realize something is not right~~ anyway im glad i am able to find the replacement parts from Taiping |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 10 2014, 07:47 PM) Not sifu lah, just beginner like u..all was try n error diy.. but agree that dahon use lousy bb still cannot get it off the eco c7 so continue to use it.This post has been edited by mbax: Dec 11 2014, 01:32 AM |
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any bukit mertajam folding bike team??
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Etigge Sifu,
can my current MTB Sram X7 , 2x10 gear install in one of these bikes. if yes, any modification requires. Soon have the intention to upgrade my MTB Groupset. 1. Tern Link D8 2. Boardwalk D8 3. Dahon Speed P16 this Dahon 2015 still no news despite mails to the distributor. mmmm..... any idea what will the 2015 Dahon Speed price like . |
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May i know if this is a stock or upgraded dahon bike? I dont see this model in dahon.com. is this a good deal?
http://www.lelong.com.my/dahon-20-sp18-fol...5-04-Sale-P.htm |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 12 2014, 08:42 PM) May i know if this is a stock or upgraded dahon bike? I dont see this model in dahon.com. is this a good deal? CDM modelhttp://www.lelong.com.my/dahon-20-sp18-fol...5-04-Sale-P.htm |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 13 2014, 05:32 PM) not worth it lau can buy visc p18 here for bout 2k y u wana buy cdm for bout 2k? this model archer p18 is for china domestic market... u wana noe how much this selling in taobao ? KAC083 selling for RMB2850 in GZ.... ok la for 300rm more selling in msia,... archer using cromo frame ya... not alu... This post has been edited by H2D: Dec 13 2014, 08:56 PM |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 13 2014, 08:54 PM) not worth it la You are right, visc is a more viable option compared to sp18 thanks. Originally my plan was to buy a rm1k bike but it seems thats not going to happen anymore. Its like somebody casted a spell on me. Im think im now looking for bikes within rm2.5k range. Any bikes suggestion within that price? u can buy visc p18 here for bout 2k y u wana buy cdm for bout 2k? this model archer p18 is for china domestic market... u wana noe how much this selling in taobao ? KAC083 selling for RMB2850 in GZ.... ok la for 300rm more selling in msia,... archer using cromo frame ya... not alu... I contacted usjcycles today..they say dahon 2015 bikes coming in a couple more weeks time. Oh man..quickly la.. |
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Hi guys, looking for a folding bike for my gf
whats a decent bike (perhaps dahon brand will be good) for general use and perhaps in the future round island. Staying in penang alot hilly routes |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 13 2014, 11:34 PM) You are right, visc is a more viable option compared to sp18 thanks. Originally my plan was to buy a rm1k bike but it seems thats not going to happen anymore. Its like somebody casted a spell on me. Im think im now looking for bikes within rm2.5k range. Any bikes suggestion within that price? u got 2.5k to burn ? I contacted usjcycles today..they say dahon 2015 bikes coming in a couple more weeks time. Oh man..quickly la.. get the tern d16 la... |
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QUOTE(blackz90 @ Dec 14 2014, 02:06 PM) Hi guys, looking for a folding bike for my gf Since lady user and its hilly, get bikes with more gears. Also need mention your budget. There 1 bike called amis with 24 gears taiwan brand at about rm1k. Life time warranty for the frame.whats a decent bike (perhaps dahon brand will be good) for general use and perhaps in the future round island. Staying in penang alot hilly routes Chewahh i havent gotten a bike myself but started teaching ppl lol. QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 14 2014, 02:10 PM) I did aome looking on tern bikes but never seen this tern d16. The only bike that i felt really eager is the verge p20 but way over budget but rodalink got diacount make it very tempting u know...Tern d16 rm2.3 seems like a good choice brooo. I check at baikbike but the spec didnt mention the frame. Does it chromoly or aluminium? Earlier you auggested dahon visc p18 but upon closer look, i dont like the frame design. So i went on and found dahon mu p27. More gear and the frame looks okay. Dahon mu p27 vs tern d16. Any inputs anyone? I know im an askhole but i promise its coming to an end lol. This post has been edited by handsomedog: Dec 14 2014, 05:59 PM |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 14 2014, 05:42 PM) Since lady user and its hilly, get bikes with more gears. Also need mention your budget. There 1 bike called amis with 24 gears taiwan brand at about rm1k. Life time warranty for the frame. you got link?Chewahh i havent gotten a bike myself but started teaching ppl lol. I did aome looking on tern bikes but never seen this tern d16. The only bike that i felt really eager is the verge p20 but way over budget but rodalink got diacount make it very tempting u know... Tern d16 rm2.3 seems like a good choice brooo. I check at baikbike but the spec didnt mention the frame. Does it chromoly or aluminium? Earlier some one auggested dahon visc p18 but upon closer look, i dont like the frame design. So i went on and found dahon mu p27. More gear and the frame looks okay. Dahon mu p27 vs tern d16. Any inputs anyone? I know im an askhole but i promise its coming to an end lol. budget i think sub 3.5k can la |
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QUOTE(blackz90 @ Dec 14 2014, 05:45 PM) 3.5k depends om your gf needs and how she kayuh. If she strong then i would suggest branded bikes la though gear choice lesser. Just my point of view laAmis bike http://www.attaquebike.com/en/products_detail.php?pID=46 |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 13 2014, 08:54 PM) not worth it la Hi, folding bike newbie here.u can buy visc p18 here for bout 2k y u wana buy cdm for bout 2k? this model archer p18 is for china domestic market... u wana noe how much this selling in taobao ? KAC083 selling for RMB2850 in GZ.... ok la for 300rm more selling in msia,... archer using cromo frame ya... not alu... Also looking at the Dahon Archer 18 speed but in aluminum for 2.1k or cdm mu8 for 1.6k. Would u say it's over priced? Not value for money? I ride mainly on road on my 26 in mtb or road bike. Broke my wrist in bike accident and it is still sore. Looking for for more upright ride. Take weight of my wrist. This post has been edited by Slickaa: Dec 14 2014, 06:04 PM |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 14 2014, 05:52 PM) 3.5k depends om your gf needs and how she kayuh. If she strong then i would suggest branded bikes la though gear choice lesser. Just my point of view la she's sport newbie thats why op for folding bikes, she says roadbike, mtb even hybrid bikes are intimidating looking, so Amis bike http://www.attaquebike.com/en/products_detail.php?pID=46 |
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QUOTE(Slickaa @ Dec 14 2014, 06:00 PM) Hi, folding bike newbie here. i din mean bikes from china is over prices, Also looking at the Dahon Archer 18 speed but in aluminum for 2.1k or cdm mu8 for 1.6k. Would u say it's over priced? Not value for money? I ride mainly on road on my 26 in mtb or road bike. Broke my wrist in bike accident and it is still sore. Looking for for more upright ride. Take weight of my wrist. if u wana buy frm china, u hv to include the shipping fee. a box of dahon measures roughly ( for 20 inch like speed falco ) 85x36x65 cm thats ~ 0.1989m3 very close to over 0.2m3 shipping fee by laut 0.1 m3 = RM65 0.2 m3 = RM85 0.3 m3 = RM125 the kaa083 is alu body with 18 speed, there are many variants, and u can get all sorts of deals frm sellers in taobao... one more thing... folding bike riding style might not be that up right nowadays.. if u wan the seat to be at optimum height, cos the handle post can't be adjusted, like tern bikes... |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 14 2014, 05:42 PM) Tern d16 rm2.3 seems like a good choice brooo. I check at baikbike but the spec didnt mention the frame. Does it chromoly or aluminium? Earlier you auggested dahon visc p18 but upon closer look, i dont like the frame design. So i went on and found dahon mu p27. More gear and the frame looks okay. Dahon mu p27 vs tern d16. Any inputs anyone? I know im an askhole but i promise its coming to an end lol. mup27 is old model i think , not sure stil got old stock? better tht u ask bike shop, and go check out. for 2015 not sure guanchow will bring in visc p18/d18..... if they don't, then really stupid of them..... |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 14 2014, 06:26 PM) i din mean bikes from china is over prices, Tq H2Dif u wana buy frm china, u hv to include the shipping fee. a box of dahon measures roughly ( for 20 inch like speed falco ) 85x36x65 cm thats ~ 0.1989m3 very close to over 0.2m3 shipping fee by laut 0.1 m3 = RM65 0.2 m3 = RM85 0.3 m3 = RM125 the kaa083 is alu body with 18 speed, there are many variants, and u can get all sorts of deals frm sellers in taobao... one more thing... folding bike riding style might not be that up right nowadays.. if u wan the seat to be at optimum height, cos the handle post can't be adjusted, like tern bikes... The bikes are at shop so the only cost is taxi to go pick it up. Almost bought the archer but the shop don't accept card and atm not working so tak jadi. Anyway tq for the clarification on height of handle post. I'm 5' 10" , will this mean I will need to lean forward a lot? Tried a bit in the shop didn't feel too hard on the wrist. This post has been edited by Slickaa: Dec 14 2014, 06:45 PM |
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QUOTE(Slickaa @ Dec 14 2014, 06:44 PM) Tq H2D u mean u r in china? The bikes are at shop so the only cost is taxi to go pick it up. Almost bought the archer but the shop don't accept card and atm not working so tak jadi. Anyway tq for the clarification on height of handle post. I'm 5' 10" , will this mean I will need to lean forward a lot? Tried a bit in the shop didn't feel too hard on the wrist. then u have many choices... better decide which is the best for u. u might not need to lean forward tht much if the seat to handle post is shorter anyway best to try at shop then decide |
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QUOTE(blackz90 @ Dec 14 2014, 06:03 PM) she's sport newbie thats why op for folding bikes, she says roadbike, mtb even hybrid bikes are intimidating looking, so Then amis 2.1 should be a good start rm1k for her to test of she like cycling. If she decide to upgrade you still have 2.5k to burn in future. Or another bike h2d suggested earlier is dahon visc d18 also a good choice QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 14 2014, 06:28 PM) frame alu, fork steel... for d16... Ok thanks. Thanks alot i will try to look around some more. Visc looks like a good setup for a recreation cyclist too bad i didnt like the frame. It should look very good for the ladies toomup27 is old model i think , not sure stil got old stock? better tht u ask bike shop, and go check out. for 2015 not sure guanchow will bring in visc p18/d18..... if they don't, then really stupid of them..... |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 14 2014, 06:56 PM) u mean u r in china? Actually in jakarta. The shop got 5 models cdm.then u have many choices... better decide which is the best for u. u might not need to lean forward tht much if the seat to handle post is shorter anyway best to try at shop then decide Since I am used to 27-30 speed the archer is the only one in my budget with 18 speed. Any idea if I will get taxed at airport when I bring the bike back to penang? |
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taxable..
n depend on luck lor.. if u donwan the steel archer, the vitesse is alu frame. |
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While i browsing around for bike i came across this website from indo. The 2nd hand bikes there macam cheaper.
Www.bukalapak.com I remember comimg across a dahon vector x10 and the price macam best. Bicycle are called sepeda there jajaja |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 14 2014, 07:40 PM) While i browsing around for bike i came across this website from indo. The 2nd hand bikes there macam cheaper. Ya pak, bukalapak is a good site to look for items. Need to be careful though lots of scammers.Www.bukalapak.com I remember comimg across a dahon vector x10 and the price macam best. Bicycle are called sepeda there jajaja For used items magic word is COD = cash on delivery. If vendor agree, arrange meet up and deal. Otherwise it's no. If new, the seller rep is best guide. |
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Hi guys. I came a cross a discussion in tern forum where tern bike frames breaks in half and in most cases riders got injured. Reckon from the pictures they should fall really akward going forward.
Thread starter reported her case somewhere around december 2013. I browse thru 7 pages and saw photos of link d8 a verge x10 frame patah. All of it patah at the same spot. Most cases are uk and 1 of them from israel. Rode bike 10 months and frame patah.. Funny thing is someone wrote that the forum used to be open for everyone to read but after this case, you can still participate and read but you need to create an id and login to view the whole thread. This not considered isolated case rite? 8 cases reported so far. Any such cases in malaysia? How la...was planning to get tern d18 now takuting hahha Anyone got follow this? Has tern release anything on this? Are thier frame safe now? http://www.ternbicycles.com/at/forum/tern-...me-shearing-two This post has been edited by handsomedog: Dec 15 2014, 09:53 AM |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 14 2014, 07:03 PM) Then amis 2.1 should be a good start rm1k for her to test of she like cycling. If she decide to upgrade you still have 2.5k to burn in future. Or another bike h2d suggested earlier is dahon visc d18 also a good choice Besides Dahon Vybe, I also have the Amis FAC 2.1 24speed and it's a great bike to ride. The frame is sturdy yet feels light. No creaking sound and able to climb pretty well. However some minor setbacks about it is that the mid section of handlebar does not come with 2 rubber washers to hold the entire handlebar in position when you release the lock during folding. As a result, the bar slides left to right and vice versa quite easily, thus causing a lot of scratch marks. Was frustrated when I can't find suchOk thanks. Thanks alot i will try to look around some more. Visc looks like a good setup for a recreation cyclist too bad i didnt like the frame. It should look very good for the ladies too parts from local bike shops. Finally solved it when I found similar looking washers for sale in Tokyo 😃. Overall, no regrets with the Amis and fast becoming my fav bike ... Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 15 2014, 12:13 PM) Besides Dahon Vybe, I also have the Amis FAC 2.1 24speed and it's a great bike to ride. The frame is sturdy yet feels light. No creaking sound and able to climb pretty well. However some minor setbacks about it is that the mid section of handlebar does not come with 2 rubber washers to hold the entire handlebar in position when you release the lock during folding. As a result, the bar slides left to right and vice versa quite easily, thus causing a lot of scratch marks. Was frustrated when I can't find such Great to know you enjoyed the bike and the white look real awesome. Is it posibble for you to show how the rubber washers look like?parts from local bike shops. Finally solved it when I found similar looking washers for sale in Tokyo 😃. Overall, no regrets with the Amis and fast becoming my fav bike ... Is it like these? Expensive omg.. http://m.aliexpress.com/item/1613804763.html This post has been edited by handsomedog: Dec 15 2014, 04:17 PM |
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QUOTE(wke002 @ Dec 12 2014, 10:19 AM) Etigge Sifu, Yes, some of the old parts can be used. As for the crank, MTB cranks can be used but the chain rings are too small. The maximum size is only 44T and you can find 48T but that is also too small for a 20 inch wheel. Usually folding bikes use 52T or 53T but some are only 48T for the ease of pedaling. Many mistook this as easy to ride can my current MTB Sram X7 , 2x10 gear install in one of these bikes. if yes, any modification requires. Soon have the intention to upgrade my MTB Groupset. 1. Tern Link D8 2. Boardwalk D8 3. Dahon Speed P16 this Dahon 2015 still no news despite mails to the distributor. mmmm..... any idea what will the 2015 Dahon Speed price like . Shifters are off course OK! |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 15 2014, 04:04 PM) Great to know you enjoyed the bike and the white look real awesome. Is it posibble for you to show how the rubber washers look like? It's not the same but still served the purpose. Bought mine pretty cheap, a pair cost about RM9/=. The color options on the Amis bike is pretty limited. Wud normally prefer a black bike but it came with shades of pink which wud have great if it was my wife riding it Is it like these? Expensive omg.. http://m.aliexpress.com/item/1613804763.html Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 15 2014, 04:04 PM) these things are plenty in taobao... not expensive if u noe how to plan your shopping..... rmb25 oni for ur mialo 1 pair ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by H2D: Dec 15 2014, 11:35 PM |
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Guys so if lets say i get a MIT v8 what are the necessary mods that i should make?
The reason I'm considering this bike cause it's like a B but yet not a B. the small folded size is the main point attracting me cause plan to bring to overseas whenever go backpack |
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QUOTE(blackz90 @ Dec 16 2014, 06:54 PM) Guys so if lets say i get a MIT v8 what are the necessary mods that i should make? The MIT already has an FD brace so I think with just another set of 8 speed shifters + FD + a 39T chainring and cables can convert it to 16 speed. The reason I'm considering this bike cause it's like a B but yet not a B. the small folded size is the main point attracting me cause plan to bring to overseas whenever go backpack |
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dahon in jap shud be more expensive than msia.... no?
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 16 2014, 09:31 PM) Ya, based on displayed RRP, it looks higher ~ RM 1,400+ but then this was in a department store where you probably get it cheaper only during sales. However, their other accessories are cheaper though, esp the Cateye speedo (90 vs 120 in Malaysia for same item), front and rear lights etc.. but too bad for me as I oredi buy locally |
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QUOTE(blackz90 @ Dec 16 2014, 11:16 PM) they say the rear triangle will give some problems and the RD will touch the floor and collect dirt. is that true? The original SRAM X4 RD is medium caged. There is a tensioner on the whole setup. I have done one before and I don't recall any of that problem. There is another bike which folds quite similarly. Distributed by Pedalsport as well. Can't recall what's the brand. Another option which is the best option will be installing the Shimano Alfine internal gear hub which is 11 speed or better still the 14 speed Rohloff. Totally, no protruding rear derailleurs at all. |
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QUOTE(blackz90 @ Dec 16 2014, 11:16 PM) they say the rear triangle will give some problems and the RD will touch the floor and collect dirt. is that true? i got read some where, the rear latch will give problem, kenot lock, but u can mod it to use the ori brompton wan... u check my earlier post i got put some pics... got ppl mod.. but u need to be a good DIYer..... |
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now, i'm deciding to get whether the Dahon Speed D8 or Vigor D9?
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 16 2014, 11:28 PM) i got read some where, the rear latch will give problem, kenot lock, I think no need use ori brompton one ba can just use a basic lever locking mechanism right?but u can mod it to use the ori brompton wan... u check my earlier post i got put some pics... got ppl mod.. but u need to be a good DIYer..... |
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QUOTE(blackz90 @ Dec 16 2014, 11:46 PM) haha i dono oh...if u can invent one very good.... but the brompton wan very good quality, and the elastomer is for damping vibration punya..... this is using the ori brompton punya.... MIT wan can buang... ![]() This post has been edited by H2D: Dec 16 2014, 11:58 PM |
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QUOTE(akioen @ Dec 16 2014, 11:37 PM) I have ride both before but I sold the Vigor later. That's me, I am more of a long distance rider and the Speed rides more comfortable than the very rigid Vigor. Also Vigor creaks a little when pushed hard. The frame is aluminium and to make it light, the tubes are big but thin and flexes a little. While the Speed is chromoly which absorbs bumps better making ride more comfortable. The Vigor is off course designed for speed as it is actually the new Vector frame. Check Dahon Vector P20 from which I modded it last time when I used it.So, the choice is mainly between speed and comfort. As for gearings, they can be changed later , even to 30 speed for either of them. ![]() |
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hi guys, looking forward to cycleasia 2015 - anyone registered yet?
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Dec 17 2014, 03:46 PM) hahaha....the organiser spectrum worldwide did not inform or give any notice to those looking forward to this event - formally known as ocbc cycle malaysia... now ocbc has finally pulled out frm sg n msia event after several generous years the organiser until jz now still put " mark this dates XXX jan 2015 for cycle msia " tho most ppl oredy suspected tht these dates will not be on anyway cos it is already end of 2014,.... and alot of ppl have paid in advance since jan 2014 this year now oni the organiser put 12-14 June 2015 as the date for cycle malaysia... 1.5 years the $$$ collect interest in bank.... |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 17 2014, 04:05 PM) hahaha.... Lord sweet potato..damn, I didn't even know OCBC pulled out until after reading your reply, ugh... and I'm one of those that registered for 2015 back in January 2014 the organiser spectrum worldwide did not inform or give any notice to those looking forward to this event - formally known as ocbc cycle malaysia... now ocbc has finally pulled out frm sg n msia event after several generous years the organiser until jz now still put " mark this dates XXX jan 2015 for cycle msia " tho most ppl oredy suspected tht these dates will not be on anyway cos it is already end of 2014,.... and alot of ppl have paid in advance since jan 2014 this year now oni the organiser put 12-14 June 2015 as the date for cycle malaysia... 1.5 years the $$$ collect interest in bank.... |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 17 2014, 04:05 PM) hahaha.... thx for the info..the organiser spectrum worldwide did not inform or give any notice to those looking forward to this event - formally known as ocbc cycle malaysia... now ocbc has finally pulled out frm sg n msia event after several generous years the organiser until jz now still put " mark this dates XXX jan 2015 for cycle msia " tho most ppl oredy suspected tht these dates will not be on anyway cos it is already end of 2014,.... and alot of ppl have paid in advance since jan 2014 this year now oni the organiser put 12-14 June 2015 as the date for cycle malaysia... 1.5 years the $$$ collect interest in bank.... |
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next june lor... can cycle..
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im welcoming myself to the club!
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Sori etigge
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QUOTE(blackz90 @ Dec 18 2014, 03:04 PM) The rear frame clip only or the complete set including the clamp?http://www.sjscycles.com/supersize/14659.jpg This post has been edited by outdoorxplorer: Dec 18 2014, 03:33 PM |
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Finally got my Dahon Speed D8 today, any maintenance tips?
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Bought at S$799 in Singapore, saw one sell RM1850 in Johor Bahru but is inconvenience for me to go to JB to buy the bike, so might as well to buy it here and get the free one year tuning.
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Hey guys,
Can 20 inch folding bike can fit in Kancil car boot nicely ? |
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Dec 20 2014, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(batu^bergolek @ Dec 20 2014, 01:23 AM) I use a Kancil for rides nearby. If you take out the shelf cover at the rear, ( takingoff and put it aside, speaker wires still attached) you can fit one foldie but get a piece of rag or sponge to put between the bike and rear windscreen. But if you take out the shelf and also recline the back seats, you can actually fit 3 folding bikes, all standing side by side. I mean Dahons lah, but if Java which has a thick fold, I think you can fit 2. In fact I think Java or Tern won't be able to fit one like I described earlier. You have to recline the rear seats. If it is a Brompton or MIT, off course , no problems.It all depends on what folding bike you have. |
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I rode 18kms after getting my bike yesterday. Really happy with my new bike although my buntut really sakit now..need to invest some money into those gel padded tights.
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Dec 20 2014, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 20 2014, 09:59 AM) I rode 18kms after getting my bike yesterday. Really happy with my new bike although my buntut really sakit now..need to invest some money into those gel padded tights. I don't know what bike you get or what saddles are you using but since it is your first ride, it might not be the saddle. Even if you buy an expensive gel saddle, it will not help. Most probably, I think is your butt has not got used to it. And also you were pushing the limits a bit. Pushing the ,limits is not your stamina but more on how long can your butt withstand sitting on the saddle. OFF COURSE a good saddle helps though. Some can pedal at high resistance for 3 hours in a gym but once on the road, it is a different matter. Just ride slowly and enjoy first. Then increase time gradually and see if it still pains.One thing I know is, after so long of riding, my butt still pains if I push too hard. Once it pains, you have to endure it the whole ride! |
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Planning to get moderate folding bike for beginners,
budget around RM200-400(Not including accessories) What brand and type are recommended? |
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Dec 20 2014, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Dec 20 2014, 05:47 PM) Planning to get moderate folding bike for beginners, Only folding bike usable, which is about your budget , still have to add another RM100 would be either Oscar Imagine or Garion. Go for the aluminium models. Just don't go for those Japanese cheap imports as most use coaster brakes!budget around RM200-400(Not including accessories) What brand and type are recommended? |
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choose with shimano gear not chinese gear..
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 20 2014, 01:16 PM) I don't know what bike you get or what saddles are you using but since it is your first ride, it might not be the saddle. Even if you buy an expensive gel saddle, it will not help. Most probably, I think is your butt has not got used to it. And also you were pushing the limits a bit. Pushing the ,limits is not your stamina but more on how long can your butt withstand sitting on the saddle. OFF COURSE a good saddle helps though. Some can pedal at high resistance for 3 hours in a gym but once on the road, it is a different matter. Just ride slowly and enjoy first. Then increase time gradually and see if it still pains. Yea i think i got a little excited and pushed a little to far yesterday. Legs are extreme wobbly and the butt sore was terrible. Was planning for a night ride but have to cancel cause it stings!One thing I know is, after so long of riding, my butt still pains if I push too hard. Once it pains, you have to endure it the whole ride! Today i tested to ride and the sore was lesser so went on a leisure ride at desa park. Just got back but the pain didnt get worse. So i think you are rite..wasnt really the saddle but the intensity Also the terain today is less bumpy. Thanks for the tip etigge! I ride on a d16 btw |
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Went out for a 20km ride on a cdm Dahon archer mp 18.
Still sweating as I post but want to share my experience. Bike is stock as bought from the store. The rottolo wheels are ok on smooth stretches. Front end is stiff with road bumps going straight into the hands/wright. My recovered broken wrist sore. Worst than riding mtb. The ride position is very upright and very enjoyable on straight smooth roads. Any recommendations to soften the front end? This post has been edited by Slickaa: Dec 21 2014, 09:24 AM |
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Good Sunday to all foldies.....thank you all sifu 4 all yr info....now hand itchy ady...looking 4 my 2nd purchase now...any shop r havin xmas sales 4 foldies?...
Looks like my current dahon c7a needs a wheelsets upgrades too as d stock set is a normal rim not double wall rim ( only notice it after my daughter told me she fell down fr d bike n d back wheel bengkok abit n send to local shop to readjust....how much is selling price 4 double wall rim ....tq... This post has been edited by frankie chin: Dec 21 2014, 09:50 AM |
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QUOTE(Slickaa @ Dec 21 2014, 09:12 AM) Went out for a 20km ride on a cdm Dahon archer mp 18. Well there are a few things you can do to lessen the shock and bumpiness from your front.Still sweating as I post but want to share my experience. Bike is stock as bought from the store. The rottolo wheels are ok on smooth stretches. Front end is stiff with road bumps going straight into the hands/wright. My recovered broken wrist sore. Worst than riding mtb. The ride position is very upright and very enjoyable on straight smooth roads. Any recommendations to soften the front end? First things first were you wearing cycling gloves? Cycling gloves with gel padding would help reduce numbness in your wrists. Another great way to reduce shock would be to change your tyres to thicker ballon tyres, notably Schwalbe Big Apples. Never used them before but I've heard it really makes the ride a lot more comfortable. |
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after a morning ride today, i've encountered few issues of my new dahon d8:
- the seatpost slipping, and caused the seatpost some scratches - sound from the hinge of the handle post is obvious - and there are other sound which i can't identify from which part of bike did i get a lemon set of bike? hmm... This post has been edited by akioen: Dec 21 2014, 02:10 PM |
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QUOTE(akioen @ Dec 21 2014, 02:04 PM) after a morning ride today, i've encountered few issues of my new dahon d8: You can tighten the seat post clamp yourself. It should do the trick. As for the sound on the hinge, maybe you can try putting some thick grease around the conjoining part. Mine was greased when i got my bike and there were no sound at all but today morning ride it started creaking again. Was my 3rd ride. Maybe i need to get some grease.- the seatpost slipping, and caused the seatpost some scratches - sound from the hinge of the handle post is obvious - and there are other sound which i can't identify from which part of bike did i get a lemon set of bike? hmm... I have a question myself. I saw those bike chain cleaner device selling online. You clamp it onto your bike chain it cleans the chain for you when you rotate the pedal. Is this how you guys clean the chain? Is this device any good? |
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Dec 21 2014, 09:46 AM) Good Sunday to all foldies.....thank you all sifu 4 all yr info....now hand itchy ady...looking 4 my 2nd purchase now...any shop r havin xmas sales 4 foldies?... Try Jimmy at Kimbell Jaya. They have ready stock now. 406 and 451 also available. Not expensive too. Just pay them a visit. I just check my store and I still have the rear single walled rim if you want. I can just replace it. Rear 28 holes. PM me if you want it.Looks like my current dahon c7a needs a wheelsets upgrades too as d stock set is a normal rim not double wall rim ( only notice it after my daughter told me she fell down fr d bike n d back wheel bengkok abit n send to local shop to readjust....how much is selling price 4 double wall rim ....tq... This post has been edited by etigge: Dec 21 2014, 04:27 PM |
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Dec 21 2014, 04:37 PM
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A fellow forummer brought his Dahon Vybe for moddings. Initially wanted to mod the front first but later I found out that the 7 speed Neos cannot take the slack of the chain when we choose 39T and 13T at the rear. I replaced it with an 8 speed unit and also it cannot handle it so change the hangers as well and I installed an old Sora RD I had in my drawer. So, those who wants to upgrade, you need to upgrade the rear first or upgrade together.
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Hi Foldy members,
I am now reducing the number of bikes I have and decided that i will keep the Brompton and reduce the gearing on it. I am therefore putting the Dahon Vitesse that I have built up for sale. It has Shimano 105 10 speed gearset and the front is ready to accept a FD if you so wish. This bike is probably going to suit someone who has owned a foldy before and wants to upgrade. Built up for the wife, but she has not really ridden it :-( If interested, PM me. Please remember that this is a new bike with good components, so it won't be like the lower end Chinese bikes. I have posted pictures here before, just do a search. Cheers |
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[quote=etigge,Dec 21 2014, 05:25 PM]
Try Jimmy at Kimbell Jaya. They have ready stock now. 406 and 451 also available. Not expensive too. Just pay them a visit. I just check my store and I still have the rear single walled rim if you want. I can just replace it. Rear 28 holes. PM me if you want it. [/quote hi siffu....thank you 4 d offer bro but my current rim still ok lagi.....just might look 4 a used 1( i m picking d feel wat folding bike is like now as i read more n owning d c7a gives me better pic on dos n dons ) but will drop by kimbell jaya tis few days 4 xmas n check it out....thank you.. This post has been edited by frankie chin: Dec 21 2014, 08:33 PM |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 21 2014, 04:37 PM) A fellow forummer brought his Dahon Vybe for moddings. Initially wanted to mod the front first but later I found out that the 7 speed Neos cannot take the slack of the chain when we choose 39T and 13T at the rear. I replaced it with an 8 speed unit and also it cannot handle it so change the hangers as well and I installed an old Sora RD I had in my drawer. So, those who wants to upgrade, you need to upgrade the rear first or upgrade together. Would like to upgrade my vybe c7a as well, sifu etigge, UGPM!! |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 21 2014, 04:37 PM) A fellow forummer brought his Dahon Vybe for moddings. Initially wanted to mod the front first but later I found out that the 7 speed Neos cannot take the slack of the chain when we choose 39T and 13T at the rear. I replaced it with an 8 speed unit and also it cannot handle it so change the hangers as well and I installed an old Sora RD I had in my drawer. So, those who wants to upgrade, you need to upgrade the rear first or upgrade together. Thanks Sifu for modding the bike 4 me. Wanted to test ride it this evening but it has been raining like crazy ... Will do it first thing in the morning. Next round will be the rear hub + 9 speed cassette !![]() ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 20 2014, 11:10 PM) Yea i think i got a little excited and pushed a little to far yesterday. Legs are extreme wobbly and the butt sore was terrible. Was planning for a night ride but have to cancel cause it stings! I changed my saddle to a Selle Royal Gel and it still didn't help much. Finally added an "el cheapo" gel padded cover which I transferred fr an old MTB and I cud ride for an hr without much problemo Today i tested to ride and the sore was lesser so went on a leisure ride at desa park. Just got back but the pain didnt get worse. So i think you are rite..wasnt really the saddle but the intensity Also the terain today is less bumpy. Thanks for the tip etigge! I ride on a d16 btw |
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wow,so many people upgrading their bike
me want to upgrade my leg.try to push my limits saturday ride going up hill from simpang pulai to bridge near pos slim about 23km up and down with total of 45km really nice view and got many oxygen even though its rain.very slippery going down,lucky kojak very grip ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(outdoorxplorer @ Dec 22 2014, 08:47 AM) those plate,saddle bag and canbium saddle really add up some weight to my bike.i cant achieve below 10kg but i like it..i hope i wont upgrade any parts for my tern already (i think its the max).really needs to upgrade my leg for now |
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 22 2014, 09:06 AM) those plate,saddle bag and canbium saddle really add up some weight to my bike.i cant achieve below 10kg but i like it.. You can reduce some weights by replacing the wheel spokes to double butted, carbon fork, pedal with titanium spindles etc.... But sure the wallet gonna be ligther.i hope i wont upgrade any parts for my tern already (i think its the max).really needs to upgrade my leg for now |
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QUOTE(outdoorxplorer @ Dec 22 2014, 09:31 AM) You can reduce some weights by replacing the wheel spokes to double butted, carbon fork, pedal with titanium spindles etc.... But sure the wallet gonna be ligther. hahahahha |
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 22 2014, 10:18 AM) no heart feelings.let me know bro,if time permits,then we can ride together.. wish i can join, but now not really up to it.. alst saturday took mtb out for a ride.. at about 17km or so butt really pain.. kekek if i took the foldies out for sure will fold and take rapid back d.. but mtb cant do that so got to endure another 15km or so of butt pain.. 3 hours for 30 km .. dem so long didnt cycle .... cant wait for 26th Dec round island penang.any penang foldies wanna joint?7.00am Queensbay mall |
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QUOTE(mbax @ Dec 22 2014, 01:37 PM) wish i can join, but now not really up to it.. alst saturday took mtb out for a ride.. at about 17km or so butt really pain.. kekek if i took the foldies out for sure will fold and take rapid back d.. but mtb cant do that so got to endure another 15km or so of butt pain.. 3 hours for 30 km .. dem so long didnt cycle .... hahaha...will try my best and endurance try to conquer pulau mutiara at my best.besides,its only like a fun ride.no need to stress about it.. |
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 22 2014, 10:18 AM) no heart feelings.let me know bro,if time permits,then we can ride together.. eh? which event is this? i didn't know about this ... always wanted to do round-islandcant wait for 26th Dec round island penang.any penang foldies wanna joint?7.00am Queensbay mall |
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QUOTE(180jin @ Dec 22 2014, 06:51 PM) The date chosen is quite busy. I mean the roads. Please be extra careful, especially on the Batu Feringghi stretch which is narrow and heavy traffic. Enjoy your round island This post has been edited by etigge: Dec 23 2014, 08:40 AM |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 23 2014, 08:40 AM) The date chosen is quite busy. I mean the roads. Please be extra careful, especially on the Batu Feringghi stretch which is narrow and heavy traffic. Enjoy your round island i do hope they all extend the Christmas holiday until 28th Dec so the road wont be so busy.anyway,thanks bro |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 21 2014, 09:18 PM) I changed my saddle to a Selle Royal Gel and it still didn't help much. Finally added an "el cheapo" gel padded cover which I transferred fr an old MTB and I cud ride for an hr without much problemo Haha..i was very reluctant to change saddle cuz its expensive and reluctant to wear tights cuz i just dont like it As for me, like what etigge said, its about getting used to the ride. Ive been riding everyday since i gotten my bike and the pain is gradually going away. No pain no gain |
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I was riding yesterday on rainy weather and my bike is dirty and sandy. Some of those sands got to my seat post so when i lowered it the sands got inbetween the seat post, clamp and are grinding it. Need to wash it.
So i am planning to get wax and lube today. Any suggestion on the brand and where to get it? I read in v2 some saying the singer lube is too thin and wont work properly. What should i get instead? Also for the wax, i checked bbs and those wax machiam expensive. They look like pomade wax for hair. Also..can i use wd40 to clean the chain cogs and cranks? |
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Planning to get a folding bike
1. TRS 20-25 - RM450 2. Nakxus 20" Alloy - RM550 (Free Helmet) Which one better in terms of performance? Both also made in Alloy I cant find Nakxus 6 speed specification |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 23 2014, 12:34 PM) I was riding yesterday on rainy weather and my bike is dirty and sandy. Some of those sands got to my seat post so when i lowered it the sands got inbetween the seat post, clamp and are grinding it. Need to wash it. Never use WD-40 for cleaning the drive train components. If there's rust on static components , like screws or folding mechanisms, it is OK but not on the chains, cassettes and RD. It will wash off every bit of lube and makes fresh lube cannot adhere to the components. Singer oil is too fluid and after a few kilometers it will thin out and dissappear and if you put more, the lube will attract more grit and also splash the lube all over the chain stay, especially the hard to wash part. So i am planning to get wax and lube today. Any suggestion on the brand and where to get it? I read in v2 some saying the singer lube is too thin and wont work properly. What should i get instead? Also for the wax, i checked bbs and those wax machiam expensive. They look like pomade wax for hair. Also..can i use wd40 to clean the chain cogs and cranks? I usually use kerosene. Can be bought in Ace Hardware. What I usually do is, put the bike on a rear stand. Then with a brush, I dipped it in kerosene and wash the chain rings, cassette and chain. If the RD and FD are dirty I brush them too. Keep brushing till the old lube comes off. Then hose off gently with water. Then only the soap and brush comes in. Clean the whole bike and then dry it. Only then a fresh lube (I use Finish Line) and dab it link by link. |
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Sorry guys noob question.
I read in forums where people advise to grease your joints, or bearings or between the shim and seat tube. Do we use chain lube or something else? Do they mean the thick gooey stuff when they say grease? I kinda have problems with the seat post sliding down after riding for awhile unless I tighten the seat post clamp like hell. Which I feel I shouldn't have to cause never had this problem before. |
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Thanks sifu etigge. Saved your tips on how to clean the drive train. I just went to ace hardware and bought a white lithium spray grease and a spray on chain lube by qplus. Didnt see any finish line brand lube until i went to rodalink after that
Gona try with the spray lube 1st and see how it goes. I think you can start your own bike upgrade and service center ady ettige..you are too good. Just do it from home and via pm here in forum haha |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 21 2014, 09:18 PM) I changed my saddle to a Selle Royal Gel and it still didn't help much. Finally added an "el cheapo" gel padded cover which I transferred fr an old MTB and I cud ride for an hr without much problemo The more you ride, your sit bones will get used to it. I don't bother with trying saddles anymore. Just get a Brooks B17 saddle, wear it in and you are set. Got it on all my bikes now, no more guess work. |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Dec 21 2014, 02:43 PM) You can tighten the seat post clamp yourself. It should do the trick. As for the sound on the hinge, maybe you can try putting some thick grease around the conjoining part. Mine was greased when i got my bike and there were no sound at all but today morning ride it started creaking again. Was my 3rd ride. Maybe i need to get some grease. I have one of these chain cleaner device. Works well, happy with it. Don't need to waste a lot of degreaser. My chain comes out really clean!I have a question myself. I saw those bike chain cleaner device selling online. You clamp it onto your bike chain it cleans the chain for you when you rotate the pedal. Is this how you guys clean the chain? Is this device any good? |
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 24 2014, 08:25 AM) I have one of these chain cleaner device. Works well, happy with it. Don't need to waste a lot of degreaser. My chain comes out really clean! Thabks for the feedback. Gonna get one from bbs for 20 bucks.Had a ride today at a park near frim. Huge park with a lake in the middle. Metropolitan park iinm. Good park with cycling and jogging trail. Only downside is the lake is kinda smelly. |
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hi.. just sold my jap hafkat bike (wife punya) + small profit
& now it s my turn. been month, still searching, reading, observing, testing + counting $$ for my new next bike. my old jap project bike still in a good use for fun. cost me rm300 simple upgrading turning into 12/14speed. hehe. so my target new models are : - tern d8 - RD if mod need to put/find hanger. even FD mod need to do it serentak with RD(small,inside small cage stock), done some forum searching..not many ppl 'double crank' this model. + know bout broken frame issue/ recall fr tern (minor) - tern d16 - new 2015 model, cant find any review, good entry level double crank spec finally fr tern. the frame RD can be upgrade. had tried little kayuh only at rodalnk - vigor p9 - lovely speed frame, but lack little bit comfort on long journey. new model 2015 - look can be mod/use perf RD. - verge p9 - FD footing standby, RD looks good, FSA 55T can add another chainring i heard. just nice & price... - the speed p8 - as always ... all part look 'standby' to be mod/upgrade. chromoly..best bang for the buck? - my ride - travel, some speeds.., bikepacking, events goers, nice, upgradable frendly.. dont intend immediately once i got the bike.. ride, feel & learn first. my budget ? bole lah.. - so guys any help/info/tip s on good shop - will be very helpful. tq * got new trinx 16" 1606. RM450 a month ago also- purpose - bikepacking for fast & easy, for my kid, commuting folding urban pack area. This post has been edited by radiohead: Dec 27 2014, 10:14 AM |
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Good choices and from what I know, the Tern Links look more robust and good for touring whereas the Verge are built for speed. There were some used units available for sale on BBS but got snapped up quickly as condition was mint due to low usage by previous owners. As for shops, you will probably need to go to main Tern dealers
- My Bicycle Shop @ bandar utama - Rodalink (they hv some promo for 2013 & 2014 stock but color choices limited on Link D8) - Kimbell Jaya @ cheras All the best in yr hunt and final selection ! |
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hi guys, i realized today a bit of the red paint of my dahon speed8 was peeled off at the joint part, what can i do? tq
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QUOTE(akioen @ Dec 28 2014, 02:20 PM) hi guys, i realized today a bit of the red paint of my dahon speed8 was peeled off at the joint part, what can i do? tq hi. where did u bought yer speed p8? & how much? is it 2014 model?anybody seen & tested 2015 model for speed p8? saw GW got vigor p9 2015 model. |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 15 2014, 12:13 PM) Besides Dahon Vybe, I also have the Amis FAC 2.1 24speed and it's a great bike to ride. The frame is sturdy yet feels light. No creaking sound and able to climb pretty well. However some minor setbacks about it is that the mid section of handlebar does not come with 2 rubber washers to hold the entire handlebar in position when you release the lock during folding. As a result, the bar slides left to right and vice versa quite easily, thus causing a lot of scratch marks. Was frustrated when I can't find such Hi, I just bought the same bike (Amis FAC2.1 - blue) last week and haven't got a change to ride it as raining everyday.parts from local bike shops. Finally solved it when I found similar looking washers for sale in Tokyo 😃. Overall, no regrets with the Amis and fast becoming my fav bike ... Now looking for the 2 rubber washers you mention. and where can i get those mud guards ? thanks |
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QUOTE(SiaoMonkey @ Dec 29 2014, 02:43 PM) Hi, I just bought the same bike (Amis FAC2.1 - blue) last week and haven't got a change to ride it as raining everyday. Welcome to the club and you will enjoy riding it ! I got the 2 washers from Tokyu Hands when I was on holiday in Tokyo. You can also refer to H2D earlier posting in this V4 on ordering the correct type from Taobao !Now looking for the 2 rubber washers you mention. and where can i get those mud guards ? thanks As for the mudguards, I got it from the same shop I bought my bike but quality so, so only-lah as it was stripped from another bike where owner probably didn't want it !. Anyway, in SS15 Subang Jaya, the Lerun shop, they have SKS mudguard / fender for 20" wheels priced at RM139 b4 nego. It's a bit expensive but used by Dahon & Tern. |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 29 2014, 07:29 PM) Welcome to the club and you will enjoy riding it ! I got the 2 washers from Tokyu Hands when I was on holiday in Tokyo. You can also refer to H2D earlier posting in this V4 on ordering the correct type from Taobao ! Alternatively, u may want to add a GUB handlebar stem which is another solution...available at GW Cycle as posted in their online store. You will probably need to find out whether it fits.As for the mudguards, I got it from the same shop I bought my bike but quality so, so only-lah as it was stripped from another bike where owner probably didn't want it !. Anyway, in SS15 Subang Jaya, the Lerun shop, they have SKS mudguard / fender for 20" wheels priced at RM139 b4 nego. It's a bit expensive but used by Dahon & Tern. Attached image(s) |
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Dec 29 2014, 08:58 PM
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A list of different types of folding bikes with different folding "styles" on the 1st page https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=71635254 |
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 29 2014, 07:38 PM) Alternatively, u may want to add a GUB handlebar stem which is another solution...available at GW Cycle as posted in their online store. You will probably need to find out whether it fits. this gub handlebar extender/stem looks a bit longer than litepro.how much the price? |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 29 2014, 08:58 PM) When you buy the Dahon, they usually have a small bottle of touch up paint included. You can touch up the peeled part with it. they din't give me any touch up paint when i bought the bike, so the best way is go to the hardwareshop to buy those touch up paint for car right?hey guys pls suggest what are yr usual methods to clean and maintain your folding bike? tq |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 20 2014, 01:16 PM) I don't know what bike you get or what saddles are you using but since it is your first ride, it might not be the saddle. Even if you buy an expensive gel saddle, it will not help. Most probably, I think is your butt has not got used to it. And also you were pushing the limits a bit. Pushing the ,limits is not your stamina but more on how long can your butt withstand sitting on the saddle. OFF COURSE a good saddle helps though. Some can pedal at high resistance for 3 hours in a gym but once on the road, it is a different matter. Just ride slowly and enjoy first. Then increase time gradually and see if it still pains. Hi,u should invest in a kinda saddle call brooks saddle leather handmade in the UK.Once u get it you will never regret buying it.One thing I know is, after so long of riding, my butt still pains if I push too hard. Once it pains, you have to endure it the whole ride! |
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pix spam part one of the story
Penang : round island 26 Dec 2014 the bike - RV at Queensbay Mall Penang the riders (2 of my friend just came and flag off with us) near seagate factory (bayan baru) the climb before balik pulau safely arrived at balik pulau 1st tyre pancit!! 2nd tyre pancit!!the same bike but this time,we noticed that kenda tyre 451 already koyak a bit.we find plaster to cover it up for a while! |
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Penang : round island 26 Dec 2014 safely arrive at air terjun titi kerawang pose a bit few pix before downhill 3rd pancits - this time we use rm1 note to "lapik" the tiub.and the results my ride at teluk dalam empang rest for a while even thought its rain heavily sometimes,we still continue the journey |
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pix spam part three of the story
Penang : round island 26 Dec 2014 at butterfly farm our lunch pit stop the best roti jala in penang at hard rock hotels at feringgi at Penang Port near the ferry at last,safely arrived from the Pulau Jerjak Jetty,i had to take my way home to glugor, so i rode back alone from there..so the total distance for round island for what can i saw the route are very lovely,sadly we got into some heavy rain.so we cant take more pix and the heavy rain delay our time completing the route.anyway,thats Allah power to have rain on that day,all we can do only redho for it. as a summary all i can say,definitely next year we will come again and ride again round the island! |
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banyak baguih...that day i was chauffeuring sungai ara georgetown kekeke.. sempat pergi qbay around 11am.
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Any Subang Jaya foldies ? Heard that some are riding on Kesas Thursday nite ?
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QUOTE(SJ18 @ Dec 29 2014, 07:38 PM) Alternatively, u may want to add a GUB handlebar stem which is another solution...available at GW Cycle as posted in their online store. You will probably need to find out whether it fits. Thanks for the advice.@H2D any recommended Taobao seller for Bicycle accessories? Thanks |
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Dec 31 2014, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 31 2014, 08:30 AM) wow,the price quite high.i bought my litepro rm80 at billy bike shop.still both i see the same lah design but the gub looks longer than the litepro Ur group is active touring. Why dont u share experience in the foldies e-mag initiated by sam cheong. Could be interesting read |
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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Dec 31 2014, 02:35 PM) Ur group is active touring. already hadWhy dont u share experience in the foldies e-mag initiated by sam cheong. Could be interesting read http://www.joomag.com/magazine/the-malaysi...417242386?short but the last issue about Ipoh Foldies Open Day.For other touring experience not all of us very good at writings compare to sam.he is a master got few plans on touring/event for 2015.will share here if any of u guyz wanna ride together.. |
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Anybody can wheelie on folding bike here? Any tips?
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QUOTE(SiaoMonkey @ Dec 30 2014, 11:29 PM) what acc u wana buy or looking for?buy from taobao if u can't the parts selling here locally, or if the parts selling here is very expensive. buy more stuff to save cost. this shop sells a lot of foldies stuff, in GZ, triple crown. http://dgqishi.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=20...497705.2.HDCYVP this one got actual shop http://okbike.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=201...507977.2.4XnMx5 if u can read chinese great, if u can't but knows pinying, u can use google translate separately to find the names of parts and do search. This post has been edited by H2D: Dec 31 2014, 09:51 PM |
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Dear sifu sekalian, I'm using Dahon Boardwalk D8 currently, and thinking to change to Dahon Dash P18. Is it a good change? Or you have a better suggestion?
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Y u choose dash p18?
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Jan 2 2015, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(danielnet1728 @ Jan 2 2015, 02:27 PM) Speed is relative to your performance. If you have the stamina and endurance, it should be OK. Then again the Boardwalk can also be as fast as the Dash if you change the wheelset to 451 as well. But as mentioned , it's relative to your performance as 451 needs more power to pedal than a 406. But that is negated by the smaller width tires that the 451 is shodded with. Advantage of the Dash is the regular geometry of the frame which is stiffer. Bad side is the folding is not so nice. We are talking about folding bikes right and if folding is not a criteria, might as well go for the mini velo.I have both the Dash (upgraded to 20 speed) and the Dahon Speed P8 (upgraded to 27 speed) and I seem to be using the Dahon Speed more often. It's easier to ride, less effort to ride, more relaxed position and I ride further with it. The Dash is although faster but fast means it tires out faster as well, so long distance is not really good. I tried once riding from Sepang to Tg.Sepat and back, my wrist muscle is really sore after that and that make me use it even less. I even tried selling it off but no takers. I think you can use both bikes and not sell off the Boardwalk. Much better as you can choose which bike to ride depending on the ride venue. |
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QUOTE(SiaoMonkey @ Dec 30 2014, 11:29 PM) Just in case you have not found the handle bar lock ring as yet, you can try buying local online dealer (Mike Bicycle Shop). They may have bought it from Taobao too but buying fr them may save you hassle of importing in.https://www.facebook.com/MikeBicycleShop/ph...?type=3&theater |
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Happy belated new year guys and girls
Btw ettige, what year is your dash? Kinda itchy lah lol..can pm price? This post has been edited by handsomedog: Jun 12 2015, 03:15 PM |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 31 2014, 09:27 PM) what acc u wana buy or looking for? Thanks Bro, I know Chinese but I never buy from Taobao before. buy from taobao if u can't the parts selling here locally, or if the parts selling here is very expensive. buy more stuff to save cost. this shop sells a lot of foldies stuff, in GZ, triple crown. http://dgqishi.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=20...497705.2.HDCYVP this one got actual shop http://okbike.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=201...507977.2.4XnMx5 if u can read chinese great, if u can't but knows pinying, u can use google translate separately to find the names of parts and do search. Anyway, my friend know how to buy from Taobao and he is interested in some of the accessories. we will buy together from the 1st Taobao seller you intro. QUOTE(SJ18 @ Jan 2 2015, 09:48 PM) Just in case you have not found the handle bar lock ring as yet, you can try buying local online dealer (Mike Bicycle Shop). They may have bought it from Taobao too but buying fr them may save you hassle of importing in. Thanks for the info. I will try to get from Taobao 1st. https://www.facebook.com/MikeBicycleShop/ph...?type=3&theater |
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Ok got another noob question for the sifus here. I am currently running a SRAM X4 RD on my tern link d8 (thanks etigge!). My wife and I are tinkering with the thought of changing to double chainrings.
My question is : would a SRAM x4 FD accommodate say, a 53/39T crank? I've read online in some other overseas forums and they said it wouldn't work. Which brings me to my next question. Would it be then possible to change the RD to a road bike RD for my wide range 11-32T cassette? From what I know the biggest road bike cassettes are like 11-28T at most. I went back and read sifu etigge's posts and I've seen him using shimano road RDs like tiagra and sora. Are you using a wide range cassette as well? If it really works I would prefer to change the entire setup to a road groupset then, instead of having some weird hybrid MTB rear and Road front setup lol. |
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Jan 4 2015, 12:39 PM) Ok got another noob question for the sifus here. I am currently running a SRAM X4 RD on my tern link d8 (thanks etigge!). My wife and I are tinkering with the thought of changing to double chainrings. The SRAM X4 RD is OK if you want to add a double chainring for your setup. But finding a left shifter is going to be hard. You need to buy a pair both left and right. The FD is quite universal, meaning you can use SRAM or Shimano or even Microshift shifters but the rear RD , Shimano needs Shimano RDs and SRAM needs SRAM's RD. So, for yours, if you want to change double chainring, I think it is prudent you get Microshift 8 speed shifters. Then also get the Microshift's FD.My question is : would a SRAM x4 FD accommodate say, a 53/39T crank? I've read online in some other overseas forums and they said it wouldn't work. Which brings me to my next question. Would it be then possible to change the RD to a road bike RD for my wide range 11-32T cassette? From what I know the biggest road bike cassettes are like 11-28T at most. I went back and read sifu etigge's posts and I've seen him using Shimano road RDs like tiagra and sora. Are you using a wide range cassette as well? If it really works I would prefer to change the entire setup to a road groupset then, instead of having some weird hybrid MTB rear and Road front setup lol. I don't know what other online forum's are saying but I have install 14, 15 , 18 and 20 speed on foldie's without problem. I even installed a 105 Shimano cassette (11/28T largest) on a 16 inch folding bike. The cassette has the same space width regardless if it is road bike or mountain bike, that is it is of the same number of gears. Eg. Shimano 9 speed Deore and the Sora 9 speed cassette are the same width. Only the ratios are different. The road bike uses smaller cassettes for smoother shifting and also road riding don't need such a big ratio difference. Point is, the cassette of both MTB and roadbike can be used if the number of gears are the same. RD is another subject altogether. Most roadbike have short cage (the part holding the two pulleys on the RD). For smaller difference in ratio, it shifts faster and more accurately. That's why roadbike shifting is crisp. The maximum nowadays is 30T for roadbikes. They can start from 11T or 12T. THose models with 30T also comes with medium length cages to compensate for the chain slack. Mountain bike RD's of course can go to 36T maximum. But the RDs are also mountain bike. The chain length needs to be adjusted carefully though, to take up the slack and the maximum that I have tried is 34T for a 406 wheelset. 451, no problems. But for 8 speed, the max. is 32T only anyway. Front is always roadbike setup, eg. 52/39T or 53/39 or compacts 50/34 but the rear set up can be mountain or roadbike. You need to prioritize your riding. I have used the SRAM's X5 on my Vigor and Dash before and the rear cassette was 11/34T with SRAM's X5, no problems. But I am using Shimano 105 on the same Dash now as I changed to 451 wheelset , so needs C-brakes (road bike types) and also the faster shifting of the roadbike setup. Cassette is 12/30T and it's more than enough already. Happy Riding and also " man man lam" Hahahaaa. This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 4 2015, 07:15 PM |
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First off, thanks for taking the time to answer my long question with an even longer answer lol!
So in other words, if I want to maintain using sram x4 RD I would have to find a different model FD and FD shifter such as microshift/SRAM/shimano right? I'm really reluctant to change the largest sprocket from 32T to 30T... Haha! Another noob question. If say I already have an X4 left shifter which shifts from 1-3, would it be compatible with a road FD? Since it's kinda universal anyway.. |
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hey guys, would you mind telling me when they have this road closures and which part of KL is closed off? I might join in some days.
On another note, wow saw the spokeless bike on the 1st page of this thread. What brand and model is that beauty? This post has been edited by youze: Jan 4 2015, 09:24 PM |
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QUOTE(youze @ Jan 4 2015, 09:20 PM) hey guys, would you mind telling me when they have this road closures and which part of KL is closed off? I might join in some days. You can check out the KL car free info from here On another note, wow saw the spokeless bike on the 1st page of this thread. What brand and model is that beauty? https://www.facebook.com/events/38417027175...?flyingspaghettimonster=ts&fref=ts |
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QUOTE(youze @ Jan 4 2015, 09:20 PM) On another note, wow saw the spokeless bike on the 1st page of this thread. What brand and model is that beauty? http://www.sadabike.it/ |
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Jan 4 2015, 08:16 PM) First off, thanks for taking the time to answer my long question with an even longer answer lol! Yes, you can use the 3 speed front shifter for the 2 chainring cranks. You set the limit on the FD and the shift won't go to position 3, that's all. So, you basically only needs the double chainring, the FD and the adapter and off course the extra cable and housing. So in other words, if I want to maintain using sram x4 RD I would have to find a different model FD and FD shifter such as microshift/SRAM/shimano right? I'm really reluctant to change the largest sprocket from 32T to 30T... Haha! Another noob question. If say I already have an X4 left shifter which shifts from 1-3, would it be compatible with a road FD? Since it's kinda universal anyway.. |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 4 2015, 10:53 PM) Yes, you can use the 3 speed front shifter for the 2 chainring cranks. You set the limit on the FD and the shift won't go to position 3, that's all. So, you basically only needs the double chainring, the FD and the adapter and off course the extra cable and housing. Thanks again! You're a life saver! That really answers all my confusion.The hunt for the crankset, FD and FD adapter starts now. Cable should already be attached to the shifter, so I guess just the housing then. |
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Every week pon touring! Dahsyat la engko azamune! Btw your tern is gorgeous!
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Specially for beginners. Check this event out this Saturday. Maybe you can learn the Putrajaya lakeside route so next time you can go and ride on your own or get new kakis to group up and ride together.
New Year new resolution to keep fit? Got a new bike and don't know where to start? Want to get started on a new family hobby this year? Come join us! Kids are welcomed. A ride organized specially for people new to cycling: 12km loop around the Putrajaya main lake. Meet up here at the Jalan P2L car park GPS Co-ordinates 2.921576, 101.683969 Meet up time: 7.00am Roll out time: 7.30am Finish time: 9.30am Pak Adib, I have make you co-host so that you could invite others that you think would be interested. *Helmets are compulsory* https://www.facebook.com/events/77051643970...ry_type=regular |
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Jan 5 2015, 11:42 AM) touring is like ride below 18kmj and have a nice view.im trying to push mike limits and try to enter century ride with folding bike no lah weekend for me to ride a long journey with extra milage.will try bikepacking after this |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 2 2015, 09:14 PM) Speed is relative to your performance. If you have the stamina and endurance, it should be OK. Then again the Boardwalk can also be as fast as the Dash if you change the wheelset to 451 as well. But as mentioned , it's relative to your performance as 451 needs more power to pedal than a 406. But that is negated by the smaller width tires that the 451 is shodded with. Advantage of the Dash is the regular geometry of the frame which is stiffer. Bad side is the folding is not so nice. We are talking about folding bikes right and if folding is not a criteria, might as well go for the mini velo. Sifu,I have both the Dash (upgraded to 20 speed) and the Dahon Speed P8 (upgraded to 27 speed) and I seem to be using the Dahon Speed more often. It's easier to ride, less effort to ride, more relaxed position and I ride further with it. The Dash is although faster but fast means it tires out faster as well, so long distance is not really good. I tried once riding from Sepang to Tg.Sepat and back, my wrist muscle is really sore after that and that make me use it even less. I even tried selling it off but no takers. I think you can use both bikes and not sell off the Boardwalk. Much better as you can choose which bike to ride depending on the ride venue. From memory you also have a Performer mini velo with dropbar, right? The dropbar would be better suited for longer rides I would think. What's the Performer like compared to the Dash? Cheers |
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Hey guys, am thinking to jump into the folding bike scene. Was thinking of touring with my regular sized bike, but decided that foldies will be easier to transport, etc.
My budget is around 2.3K or below, and I came across this bike: Tern Link D16 , priced at 2.3K exactly. Can't find many reviews online. Was drawn in by the Tiagra RD, but I heard that having regular road RD for foldies is not a good idea? As in I might hit it out of alignment? Is that really a big issue though (never traveled with a packed foldie before so I wont know)? Which brings me to the next question: how many gears is enough to achieve regular touring speed, and to go on an uphill without getting off the bike? Will either the Dahon Speed P8, Vitesse, or the Tern Link D8 be enough? What would be your recommendation for my budget range? (preferably below, so that I can spend on other accessories). Thanks in advance!! |
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Jan 5 2015, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 5 2015, 05:26 PM) Sifu, Yes, but that's my wife's mini velo. The Performer is rigid chromoly frame and very light. After chnaging to Ultegra groupset, it is below 9 kg. Originally it was a straight bar and I change it to a bull horn bar or what they call TT bar. Compared to the Dash, the Performer is a better ride but Dash is foldable but Performer is not. The Dash is an X20 now and I use it for more shorter and tarmac rides. Long distance, my wrist pains after 80 km. For distances longer than that or multiple day riding, I use my Dahon Speed. From memory you also have a Performer mini velo with dropbar, right? The dropbar would be better suited for longer rides I would think. What's the Performer like compared to the Dash? Cheers It seems the Dahon Dash is priced near 3K now and they have reverted back to C-brakes and 451 wheelset. ![]() |
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QUOTE(foogie @ Jan 5 2015, 06:34 PM) Hey guys, am thinking to jump into the folding bike scene. Was thinking of touring with my regular sized bike, but decided that foldies will be easier to transport, etc. Many foldies uses road bike rear derailleurs. I am just suprised that someone said that it might hit out of alignment My budget is around 2.3K or below, and I came across this bike: Tern Link D16 , priced at 2.3K exactly. Can't find many reviews online. Was drawn in by the Tiagra RD, but I heard that having regular road RD for foldies is not a good idea? As in I might hit it out of alignment? Is that really a big issue though (never traveled with a packed foldie before so I wont know)? Which brings me to the next question: how many gears is enough to achieve regular touring speed, and to go on an uphill without getting off the bike? Will either the Dahon Speed P8, Vitesse, or the Tern Link D8 be enough? What would be your recommendation for my budget range? (preferably below, so that I can spend on other accessories). Thanks in advance!! |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 07:14 PM) Probably Brompton owners said that statement, because Bromptons use Sturmey Archer internal hub gear (which off course don't run out of alignment Brompton ridden for 5000KM not a single puncture oh! Schwalbe Marathon Plus is doing its job well For sure the B wasn't ridden on a trainer but tarmac and some rough surfaces... Ooops!This post has been edited by outdoorxplorer: Jan 5 2015, 08:07 PM |
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QUOTE(outdoorxplorer @ Jan 5 2015, 08:06 PM) Brompton ridden for 5000KM not a single puncture oh! Schwalbe Marathon Plus is doing its job well For sure the B wasn't ridden on a trainer but tarmac and some rough surfaces... Ooops! Lucky you! This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 5 2015, 08:14 PM |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 08:14 PM) Lucky you! |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 07:14 PM) Many foldies uses road bike rear derailleurs. I am just suprised that someone said that it might hit out of alignment Haha, thanks mate. That is really good to know. But what do you think, is the Tern Link D16 worth the money, or should I look at another bike for touring? I was hoping to get chromoly or steel frames, but can't seem to find one around that price range with a good gear range. Or is 16 speeds completely pointless for touring and I should just get a Dahon Speed P8 or a Tern Link D8? Thanks! |
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QUOTE(foogie @ Jan 5 2015, 08:45 PM) Haha, thanks mate. That is really good to know. But what do you think, is the Tern Link D16 worth the money, or should I look at another bike for touring? I was hoping to get chromoly or steel frames, but can't seem to find one around that price range with a good gear range. Or is 16 speeds completely pointless for touring and I should just get a Dahon Speed P8 or a Tern Link D8? If chromoly is needed , which is more comfortable to ride anyway, just go for the Dahon Speed P8. First of all, the frame is really proven. Second, it is within your price range, Third , it is really comfortable to ride. I think you should be able to get it for less than 2K from Kimbell Jaya. Add a 39 chainring, an FD and adapter plus a Microshift 8 speed shifter pair. another cable and housing, kautim! Same, same , 16 speed also. Lagi syiok, get the SRAM X5 shifters set, 10 speed cassette and make it 20 speed. The new Speeds are now shodded with SRAM X7 RDs.Thanks! For touring, it is good to have extra chainrings for some hilly rides. This comment really put you in a dilemma This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 5 2015, 09:07 PM |
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QUOTE(foogie @ Jan 5 2015, 06:34 PM) Hey guys, am thinking to jump into the folding bike scene. Was thinking of touring with my regular sized bike, but decided that foldies will be easier to transport, etc. I have a Dahon Vitesse for sale, with Shimano 105 double compact cranks and 10speed rear derailleur. Schwalbe Durano tyres. Under 10kgs. Hardly used since built in 2014. Can supply parts list for this bike.My budget is around 2.3K or below, and I came across this bike: Tern Link D16 , priced at 2.3K exactly. Can't find many reviews online. Was drawn in by the Tiagra RD, but I heard that having regular road RD for foldies is not a good idea? As in I might hit it out of alignment? Is that really a big issue though (never traveled with a packed foldie before so I wont know)? Which brings me to the next question: how many gears is enough to achieve regular touring speed, and to go on an uphill without getting off the bike? Will either the Dahon Speed P8, Vitesse, or the Tern Link D8 be enough? What would be your recommendation for my budget range? (preferably below, so that I can spend on other accessories). Thanks in advance!! Asking RM1800. Available end of Feb. As for the RD, unless you mis-treat the bike, or transported the bike lying on the RD, I can't see how it can go out of alignment. My bikes never have done it. Derailleurs are much easier to maintain if you ask me, and I have bikes with internal hubs, like Sturmey Archer and Shimano Alfine. Internal hubs have wider spread gears, hence can be either too high or too low sometimes, which is a nuisance. And they are a little heavier also. Touring speed is usually quite low, say 18-20km/h, so 8 speed will get you there if not geared too low, and if you want to be able to climb hills seated, then a second smaller chain ring would be required. An internal hub will take you up hills so long as they are no too steep, ie. 8 or 11 speed Alfine. Even my Brompton 6 speed (with 3 speed hub) can go up pretty steep hills easily, but I won't want it to be a long continuous climb!! This post has been edited by desastar: Jan 5 2015, 09:19 PM |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 08:14 PM) Lucky you! Yes, I do have a 15mm spanner hidden in the hollow tube frame...... have not used it yet as I have faith in the Schawalbe Marathons!! |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 09:06 PM) If chromoly is needed , which is more comfortable to ride anyway, just go for the Dahon Speed P8. First of all, the frame is really proven. Second, it is within your price range, Third , it is really comfortable to ride. I think you should be able to get it for less than 2K from Kimbell Jaya. Add a 39 chainring, an FD and adapter plus a Microshift 8 speed shifter pair. another cable and housing, kautim! Same, same , 16 speed also. Lagi syiok, get the SRAM X5 shifters set, 10 speed cassette and make it 20 speed. The new Speeds are now shodded with SRAM X7 RDs. Haha, it does, but oh man, what an idea. Thanks! For touring, it is good to have extra chainrings for some hilly rides. This comment really put you in a dilemma QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 5 2015, 09:17 PM) I have a Dahon Vitesse for sale, with Shimano 105 double compact cranks and 10speed rear derailleur. Schwalbe Durano tyres. Under 10kgs. Hardly used since built in 2014. Can supply parts list for this bike. Wow, I would love to see the parts list for that bike! And your comment is so reassuring. Asking RM1800. Available end of Feb. As for the RD, unless you mis-treat the bike, or transported the bike lying on the RD, I can't see how it can go out of alignment. My bikes never have done it. Derailleurs are much easier to maintain if you ask me, and I have bikes with internal hubs, like Sturmey Archer and Shimano Alfine. Internal hubs have wider spread gears, hence can be either too high or too low sometimes, which is a nuisance. And they are a little heavier also. Touring speed is usually quite low, say 18-20km/h, so 8 speed will get you there if not geared too low, and if you want to be able to climb hills seated, then a second smaller chain ring would be required. An internal hub will take you up hills so long as they are no too steep, ie. 8 or 11 speed Alfine. Even my Brompton 6 speed (with 3 speed hub) can go up pretty steep hills easily, but I won't want it to be a long continuous climb!! Oh btw, where are the shops that I should check out for best deals on the foldies? Preferably those that allow me to try riding them preferably! Rodalink allowed me to try cycling on the kaki lima only This post has been edited by foogie: Jan 5 2015, 10:27 PM |
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any info on dahon speed d8?i heard only got 1 color available (white/green) and the red color will not be available.is it true? im scouting for one,maybe around feb/mac to get one.have 105groupset waiting to be transferred..hihihi |
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jan 6 2015, 09:03 AM) ettige, New shipment arrived already from Guan Chow. The red is the classic colour!any info on dahon speed d8?i heard only got 1 color available (white/green) and the red color will not be available.is it true? im scouting for one,maybe around feb/mac to get one.have 105groupset waiting to be transferred..hihihi ![]() THE NEW DAHON DASH ! Using C-brakes and 451 wheelset. ![]() This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 6 2015, 09:26 AM |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 07:08 PM) Yes, but that's my wife's mini velo. The Performer is rigid chromoly frame and very light. After chnaging to Ultegra groupset, it is below 9 kg. Originally it was a straight bar and I change it to a bull horn bar or what they call TT bar. Compared to the Dash, the Performer is a better ride but Dash is foldable but Performer is not. The Dash is an X20 now and I use it for more shorter and tarmac rides. Long distance, my wrist pains after 80 km. For distances longer than that or multiple day riding, I use my Dahon Speed. sifu etigge, both bike use 451 durano right? mind to tell the price and where do you get it?It seems the Dahon Dash is priced near 3K now and they have reverted back to C-brakes and 451 wheelset. ![]() |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 6 2015, 09:23 AM) New shipment arrived already from Guan Chow. The red is the classic colour! yeahoo...in that case just wait to my local shop to restock lah ![]() THE NEW DAHON DASH ! Using C-brakes and 451 wheelset. ![]() anyway, this 2015 dash for me are lovely |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 07:08 PM) Yes, but that's my wife's mini velo. The Performer is rigid chromoly frame and very light. After chnaging to Ultegra groupset, it is below 9 kg. Originally it was a straight bar and I change it to a bull horn bar or what they call TT bar. Compared to the Dash, the Performer is a better ride but Dash is foldable but Performer is not. The Dash is an X20 now and I use it for more shorter and tarmac rides. Long distance, my wrist pains after 80 km. For distances longer than that or multiple day riding, I use my Dahon Speed. Wuaaa...so cool :drooling:It seems the Dahon Dash is priced near 3K now and they have reverted back to C-brakes and 451 wheelset. ![]() Look like a pairing made in heaven..dont seperate them ettige lol |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 12:30 PM) Specially for beginners. Check this event out this Saturday. Maybe you can learn the Putrajaya lakeside route so next time you can go and ride on your own or get new kakis to group up and ride together. Wow, that's great. New Year new resolution to keep fit? Got a new bike and don't know where to start? Want to get started on a new family hobby this year? Come join us! Kids are welcomed. A ride organized specially for people new to cycling: 12km loop around the Putrajaya main lake. Meet up here at the Jalan P2L car park GPS Co-ordinates 2.921576, 101.683969 Meet up time: 7.00am Roll out time: 7.30am Finish time: 9.30am Pak Adib, I have make you co-host so that you could invite others that you think would be interested. *Helmets are compulsory* https://www.facebook.com/events/77051643970...ry_type=regular hope i can make it. by the way, the link got problem? |
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anyone is planning to sell out his/her brompton?
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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Jan 7 2015, 10:17 AM) If you go to Togoparts, a website in Singapore, thee's some for sale there. There's even posting by a Brompton refurbisher in UK who takes old Bs and refurbish them and sell. Last time I checked, they are going for about S$1300 to S$2000 depending on the year, model and specs. But our ringgit is sliding down the drain and this is not the time to buy but hey! , who knows. Check Togoparts out under the market place section. |
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Dahon speed 8, mu d 8 , vigor d 9
Tern link d 8 , d 18 , n 8.... Which 1 to choose as they r almost fr d same range? Cos gonna to shop 1 for myself n 1 more dahon c7a 4 my son as my daughter hd a dahon c7a... Gonna drop by kimble jaya ..hoping they can give a better pricing.... This post has been edited by frankie chin: Jan 7 2015, 11:40 PM |
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Jan 7 2015, 11:36 PM) Dahon speed 8, mu d 8 , vigor d 9 Your choice mentioned are almost all on the same specs. Performance wise is probably similar as well. Dahon Speed P8 is reliable and an old horse. SO far no Speed users have complains, including myself. It's easy to upgrade later as well. Now with SRAM components, it's better than the Neos used last time. Probably the only needed upgrade is the shifter as Dahon propriety shifter is lousy! Anyway, it's less than 100 bucks for both left and right thumb shifters. As for Vigor and MU , these are faster models (so they say lah Tern link d 8 , d 18 , n 8.... Which 1 to choose as they r almost fr d same range? Cos gonna to shop 1 for myself n 1 more dahon c7a 4 my son as my daughter hd a dahon c7a... Gonna drop by kimble jaya ..hoping they can give a better pricing.... As for Tern models, they also have the same specs but Tern seems to be trapped in a time zone. There are no new models from them. The Link and the Verge are the only 2 frame patterns for 20 inch models. In fact, the Verge is actually the Dahon Vector and the new Dahon Vector are now the Vigor similar like frames now. The performance is almost similar to the Dahon aluminium models but it loses out in the handlebar design. That's why Dahon patented it. It's OK if you like Tern designs, but for the higher price paid for it, I see no distinct advantages over the Dahons. Happy Riding. Nice to see riders riding with the family. This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 8 2015, 09:06 AM |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 8 2015, 09:04 AM) Your choice mentioned are almost all on the same specs. Performance wise is probably similar as well. Dahon Speed P8 is reliable and an old horse. SO far no Speed users have complains, including myself. It's easy to upgrade later as well. Now with SRAM components, it's better than the Neos used last time. Probably the only needed upgrade is the shifter as Dahon propriety shifter is lousy! Anyway, it's less than 100 bucks for both left and right thumb shifters. As for Vigor and MU , these are faster models (so they say lah Gonna vouch for the Speed P8, a fellow happy owner here as well. Chromoly steel ftw! it's a bit on the heavy side but it rides soooo awesome over rough roads. Not to mention also abundant accessories parts from taobao hahaAs for Tern models, they also have the same specs but Tern seems to be trapped in a time zone. There are no new models from them. The Link and the Verge are the only 2 frame patterns for 20 inch models. In fact, the Verge is actually the Dahon Vector and the new Dahon Vector are now the Vigor similar like frames now. The performance is almost similar to the Dahon aluminium models but it loses out in the handlebar design. That's why Dahon patented it. It's OK if you like Tern designs, but for the higher price paid for it, I see no distinct advantages over the Dahons. Happy Riding. Nice to see riders riding with the family. Still prefer it over Mu though because of the triagle frame design that's easier to carry around when folded (one more bar to hold on to) and also putting it on bicycle stand for maintenance. My P8 is still stock with the crappy Dahon's shifter and Neos RD but give due credit, I have only adjusted it once after I got the bike and have never experience any bad shifting (crunching, not shifting up/down etc) even after 500km of riding. No doubt though that the SRAM will be better. Another thing that may be worth changing for P8 would be the brake levers. Didn't really like the original ones and feels much better after I changed it to the Avid FR5 |
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If you come across a Speed D7, don't be afraid to buy it if the price is right. It should be cheaper than the Speed P8. Same frame but 7 speed and standard alum wheels. The Sram 7 speed shifter is accurate and shifts nicely, at least on my previous bike. Just sold it. I understand the Dahon shifters are not as good now.
Unless you have both Cro-moly and Alum framed versions to compare side by side, you'd be hard pressed to know the difference in ride, esp when wider tyres are used. Surprisingly, the rear hub of the D7 takes cassettes, which means you can upgrade easily! If you want light, then go aluminum. Our custom Vitesse is under 10kgs. The previous D7 was around 12.5kgs. |
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Sifu Etigge n desastar....tqvm 4 yr valueble info...narrow my scope to speed n vigor....i fall 4 vigor actually but too bad kimbell no stock....2molo i will drop by kimbell n see wat they new stock......update u guys once i " cheong " it...
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Jan 8 2015, 06:50 PM) Sifu Etigge n desastar....tqvm 4 yr valueble info...narrow my scope to speed n vigor....i fall 4 vigor actually but too bad kimbell no stock....2molo i will drop by kimbell n see wat they new stock......update u guys once i " cheong " it... Kimbell ordered as many Vigor as possible but they only sent 2 and there's another 2 orders outstanding. So, I doubt Kimbell has stock for the Vigor. Can try smaller outstation outlets though. |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 8 2015, 09:58 PM) Kimbell ordered as many Vigor as possible but they only sent 2 and there's another 2 orders outstanding. So, I doubt Kimbell has stock for the Vigor. Can try smaller outstation outlets though. Aiyo!!....but will drop by 2molo cos my route ...raub-semenyih-puchong-philipine embassy-semenyih-KIMBELL JAYA My place here promotes more mtb n china brand foldies....somere price dam tough too... This post has been edited by frankie chin: Jan 8 2015, 10:15 PM |
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Oh btw, not sure if anyone is interested in a Gates Carbon drive crank and belt. Of course you can only fit this if you have a split frame (no such thing in a foldy) but potentially will fit a Dahon Mu frame with internal hub gear.... Maybe I need to experiment with one.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 8 2015, 09:04 AM) Your choice mentioned are almost all on the same specs. Performance wise is probably similar as well. Dahon Speed P8 is reliable and an old horse. SO far no Speed users have complains, including myself. It's easy to upgrade later as well. Now with SRAM components, it's better than the Neos used last time. Probably the only needed upgrade is the shifter as Dahon propriety shifter is lousy! Anyway, it's less than 100 bucks for both left and right thumb shifters. As for Vigor and MU , these are faster models (so they say lah Dahon Speed is now known as D8 and two tone colour, a couple hundred lower than Vigor D9. both nice, SRAM outfit. look vigor D9 scores but Speed comes with twister gear, as Etigge sifu says, less than 100 to change to thumb shifter. I saw Vigor D9 with SRAM s500 derailler while speed clearly mention X7. Not familiar with this S500. are they any good as X7. As for Tern models, they also have the same specs but Tern seems to be trapped in a time zone. There are no new models from them. The Link and the Verge are the only 2 frame patterns for 20 inch models. In fact, the Verge is actually the Dahon Vector and the new Dahon Vector are now the Vigor similar like frames now. The performance is almost similar to the Dahon aluminium models but it loses out in the handlebar design. That's why Dahon patented it. It's OK if you like Tern designs, but for the higher price paid for it, I see no distinct advantages over the Dahons. Happy Riding. Nice to see riders riding with the family. |
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QUOTE(wke002 @ Jan 9 2015, 11:32 AM) I saw Vigor D9 with SRAM s500 derailler while speed clearly mention X7. Not familiar with this S500. are they any good as X7. i've been using sram s500 before on my mongoose.the RD looks the same as sram X5,nothing looks different in my eyes when i compare side by side long time ago if im not mistaken..i just hope speed d8 red color in stock |
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QUOTE(wke002 @ Jan 9 2015, 11:32 AM) Dahon Speed is now known as D8 and two tone colour, a couple hundred lower than Vigor D9. both nice, SRAM outfit. look vigor D9 scores but Speed comes with twister gear, as Etigge sifu says, less than 100 to change to thumb shifter. I saw Vigor D9 with SRAM s500 derailler while speed clearly mention X7. Not familiar with this S500. are they any good as X7. For those who has changed Speed P8 to thumb shifter, may I know which shifter do you guys use? I was initially thinking of a Shimano Acera M310 8 speed thumb shifter for the rapid fire function, but just would like to know what others are usingSRAM X-5 ? Microshift? |
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QUOTE(180jin @ Jan 9 2015, 02:39 PM) For those who has changed Speed P8 to thumb shifter, may I know which shifter do you guys use? I was initially thinking of a Shimano Acera M310 8 speed thumb shifter for the rapid fire function, but just would like to know what others are using I personally wouldn't jump the gun. If the original shifter is shifting crisply, no point replacing it. I have the Tiagra 10 sp shifter on my Vitesse, and I actually prefer the Sram twist shifter, simple and more positive, go figure! SRAM X-5 ? Microshift? A friend gave me this advice which I will share here, all very true..... "when you have something new, wait 3 months and see if you still hate it, if so then start modifying" I have bought so many parts over the years that frankly speaking added no additional joys to my bike riding. Always jumping in due to "sun-see-hang", or some romantic ideas. Or to have 30 speed to conquer some non-existent hills, only to use about 8 of the gears.... hahaha !! |
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QUOTE(180jin @ Jan 9 2015, 02:39 PM) For those who has changed Speed P8 to thumb shifter, may I know which shifter do you guys use? I was initially thinking of a Shimano Acera M310 8 speed thumb shifter for the rapid fire function, but just would like to know what others are using Shifters are a matter of preference. The original are SRAM twisters but I never liked twist shifters. So I changed to thumb shifters. On doing that, I decided to go straight to 9 speed as 9 speed offers more choice of shifters. You actually can find Shimano XT or Deore 9 speed shifters if you look hard. I on the other hand found the old age LX shifters for both me and my wife's Boardwalk. Although not really important, all shifters works just fine, indexing is good but the ease of shifting is important to us. We like to do Genting Peras as the place is nearby our house, so shifting easily and also triple chainrings are important to us too. Though we don't use the granny anymore like before. But it is good to have, in times when we are too tired and want to cruise more leisurely, like riding and resting at the same time. To be fair, you need to know, what terrain and what kinds of rides are you planning to ride on.SRAM X-5 ? Microshift? It also approve my decision as on one of my group rides, there was another rider who blistered her palm trying to shift up and down with the twist shifters. It was not the shifters but a slightly jammed cables. It was not moving very well, maybe some signs of rust in the cable and housing. Another weakness of twist shifters (grip shift) is you tend to over shift. New users will know this. Microshift still has 8 speed shifters , so does Shimano. The SRAM X5 shifters are 10 speed nowadays. |
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 9 2015, 11:56 PM) D other 1 is 2015 vybe c7a.... looks ada ummph hor . As 4 speed p8 only ada green colour ...so i go 4 mu d8 as it got d curve looks...but dalam hati i wan p9...kena wait 3 months...aiyaBut overall 2015 models cosmetics looks real good!! This post has been edited by frankie chin: Jan 9 2015, 11:43 PM |
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I ended up getting the Tern Node D16. Brilliant, brilliant bike (was persuaded by Johnny from My Bicycle Shop Bandar Utama to get this over the Link D16, which is exactly the same price). You can really feel the difference with the 24" wheels. The ride feels like a full sized bike, and it's so easy to get uphill with this thing (thanks to the gear ratio). Just tested it in Putrajaya today. The thing can really go very fast, almost as fast as a roadbike (in terms of top speed), and the acceleration is something I'm very surprised with. Only problem I have with it is the lousy magnets to secure the bike while folded (seems like a common problem with Tern). Always get disengaged if you drag the bike along the floor (in folded mode)
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Only problem with the 24" is the lack of tyre choices, and of course the larger fold. But as you say, it should feel more stable.
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i've always returned to lowyat to ask for recommendations due to the friendly nature of the forumers. ive been recently transferred to Kuching and managed to find a place only 10-15minutes away from my workplace. the parking is terrible at my workplace hence im thinking of getting a folding bike to go to work everyday. Started surveying the Dahons then I stumbled upon Bromptons. (Love it but the price is a killer!) But, I have to be realistic in terms of budget. So with some of these criteria, I would like to ask for your recommendations. I'm a 5ft3in female. 1. Weight : around 11kg 2. Budget : rm500-1500 3. Usage : To commute to work, mostly on flatland. Maybe some cycling over the weekend 4. Style : I love retro looking bikes haha 5. Maintenance : Low, Im not keen on modding it so I prefer an all-in model. Any models and shops to recommend? |
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QUOTE(supaztyler @ Jan 11 2015, 03:27 PM) hello sifus, If you want something that can fold as compact as the Brompton, you can opt for the Trinx or XDS 16 inch folding bike. Folded properly they can even be pack into the IKEA Dimpa bag. The Trinx is only RM580 here in West M'sia and the XDS about RM200 extra. As you said , it is only used mainly on flat lands, so the number of gears should be enough. The tires of the Bromptons are 349 mm in diameter while the mentioned bikes above are 305 mm, so the size is just a small difference.i've always returned to lowyat to ask for recommendations due to the friendly nature of the forumers. ive been recently transferred to Kuching and managed to find a place only 10-15minutes away from my workplace. the parking is terrible at my workplace hence im thinking of getting a folding bike to go to work everyday. Started surveying the Dahons then I stumbled upon Bromptons. (Love it but the price is a killer!) But, I have to be realistic in terms of budget. So with some of these criteria, I would like to ask for your recommendations. I'm a 5ft3in female. 1. Weight : around 11kg 2. Budget : rm500-1500 3. Usage : To commute to work, mostly on flatland. Maybe some cycling over the weekend 4. Style : I love retro looking bikes haha 5. Maintenance : Low, Im not keen on modding it so I prefer an all-in model. Any models and shops to recommend? There is another brand called MIT that folds exactly like the Bs but the price is above your budget though. They cost averagely about 2.6K. There's another brand called TXed which also folds similarly compact. As for, your preference for style, retro looking bikes usually cost more. |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 11 2015, 05:16 PM) If you want something that can fold as compact as the Brompton, you can opt for the Trinx or XDS 16 inch folding bike. Folded properly they can even be pack into the IKEA Dimpa bag. The Trinx is only RM580 here in West M'sia and the XDS about RM200 extra. As you said , it is only used mainly on flat lands, so the number of gears should be enough. The tires of the Bromptons are 349 mm in diameter while the mentioned bikes above are 305 mm, so the size is just a small difference. Sifu etigge, maybe she may like Dahon Boardwalk D8 ?. Does not fold as compact as Brompton but a classic Dahon bike which to me is retro looking, good for flatlands, and just at the top end of her budget (RM1.5k). There is another brand called MIT that folds exactly like the Bs but the price is above your budget though. They cost averagely about 2.6K. There's another brand called TXed which also folds similarly compact. As for, your preference for style, retro looking bikes usually cost more. |
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QUOTE(supaztyler @ Jan 11 2015, 03:27 PM) hello sifus, Well, no foldies are really "retro" as such. 10-15 mins on the flats, you can get by with any bikes, but a decent one will always be nicer to ride.i've always returned to lowyat to ask for recommendations due to the friendly nature of the forumers. ive been recently transferred to Kuching and managed to find a place only 10-15minutes away from my workplace. the parking is terrible at my workplace hence im thinking of getting a folding bike to go to work everyday. Started surveying the Dahons then I stumbled upon Bromptons. (Love it but the price is a killer!) But, I have to be realistic in terms of budget. So with some of these criteria, I would like to ask for your recommendations. I'm a 5ft3in female. 1. Weight : around 11kg 2. Budget : rm500-1500 3. Usage : To commute to work, mostly on flatland. Maybe some cycling over the weekend 4. Style : I love retro looking bikes haha 5. Maintenance : Low, Im not keen on modding it so I prefer an all-in model. Any models and shops to recommend? I know we discuss foldable bikes here, but do you need one? If retro look is what you really want, so for a full size old style ladies bike with a basket at the front. Foldies are more versatile though and can fit in a car easily. |
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QUOTE(foogie @ Jan 11 2015, 12:47 PM) I ended up getting the Tern Node D16. Brilliant, brilliant bike (was persuaded by Johnny from My Bicycle Shop Bandar Utama to get this over the Link D16, which is exactly the same price). You can really feel the difference with the 24" wheels. The ride feels like a full sized bike, and it's so easy to get uphill with this thing (thanks to the gear ratio). Just tested it in Putrajaya today. The thing can really go very fast, almost as fast as a roadbike (in terms of top speed), and the acceleration is something I'm very surprised with. Only problem I have with it is the lousy magnets to secure the bike while folded (seems like a common problem with Tern). Always get disengaged if you drag the bike along the floor (in folded mode) How much? |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 9 2015, 06:56 PM) Shifters are a matter of preference. The original are SRAM twisters but I never liked twist shifters. So I changed to thumb shifters. On doing that, I decided to go straight to 9 speed as 9 speed offers more choice of shifters. You actually can find Shimano XT or Deore 9 speed shifters if you look hard. I on the other hand found the old age LX shifters for both me and my wife's Boardwalk. Although not really important, all shifters works just fine, indexing is good but the ease of shifting is important to us. We like to do Genting Peras as the place is nearby our house, so shifting easily and also triple chainrings are important to us too. Though we don't use the granny anymore like before. But it is good to have, in times when we are too tired and want to cruise more leisurely, like riding and resting at the same time. To be fair, you need to know, what terrain and what kinds of rides are you planning to ride on. thx sifu desastar and etigge for the input, yeah 9 speed definitely has more options just that i thought of keeping the upgrade cost low. Moving to 9 speed will need new cassette and new chain as well, the extra cog will be useful, though i have no issues with the 8 so far. The main motivation for me to move to thumb shifter is because when i ride uphill and sometimes having to ride standing up, i tend to have my wrists locked for maximum strength and efficiency (dunno how to describe but i think can sorta picture), and twist shifters require u to use ur wrist to twist so it's a bit annoying. It also approve my decision as on one of my group rides, there was another rider who blistered her palm trying to shift up and down with the twist shifters. It was not the shifters but a slightly jammed cables. It was not moving very well, maybe some signs of rust in the cable and housing. Another weakness of twist shifters (grip shift) is you tend to over shift. New users will know this. Microshift still has 8 speed shifters , so does Shimano. The SRAM X5 shifters are 10 speed nowadays. One good thing about twist shifter is probably that u can downshift to many gears coming to a stop at junctions, but that's possible with Shimano's rapidfire as well. Not sure about SRAMs and Microshifts though. |
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QUOTE(180jin @ Jan 12 2015, 11:45 AM) thx sifu desastar and etigge for the input, yeah 9 speed definitely has more options just that i thought of keeping the upgrade cost low. Moving to 9 speed will need new cassette and new chain as well, the extra cog will be useful, though i have no issues with the 8 so far. The main motivation for me to move to thumb shifter is because when i ride uphill and sometimes having to ride standing up, i tend to have my wrists locked for maximum strength and efficiency (dunno how to describe but i think can sorta picture), and twist shifters require u to use ur wrist to twist so it's a bit annoying. I know what you are saying, but usually try and change gear before you need to stand pedaling. Not a good habit to change gear when you are pedaling hard, so this is usually an unlikely event One good thing about twist shifter is probably that u can downshift to many gears coming to a stop at junctions, but that's possible with Shimano's rapidfire as well. Not sure about SRAMs and Microshifts though. At the end of the day, you'll know what you like best. My collection of bikes have got all sorts of shifters, twist, finger, flip lever (brompton), bar-end, brifters and down-tube. All have their own quirkiness, but the best will have to be brifters, but you will have to like drop bars. Depending on the places you ride, when I was riding my Speed D7, I didn't really missed having any more gears. All boils down to gear ratios. If you have the right ones, eight should be enough in normal riding. In fact, the Speed D7 had better ratios than my Nexus Alfine 8 speed internal hub, as the ratios in that is spaced too wide, so sometimes it is too high, or too low...... |
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 13 2015, 06:20 AM) So do you how much the Dash x20 is? Nice looking and only 8.9 kg without pedals, nice! Rodalink sold 2 units before for RM6,250.00 each. That's only one batch, never seen them again nor I saw anybody riding it. It is still available in Nava Bikes in Bangkok and there are also many unts in use in Singapore. I have the Dash P18 (2012 Taiwan made model) and it uses Tiagra RD with Microshift shifters and FD. So, I started to change the components to X20 specs but went a little overboard. I changed the whole groupset to Shimano 105 for RM1750 then. After 2 rides on the dropbars, I decided to go back to straight bar Very hard to justify another bike now Later on, the Dash original rims doesn't look matching compared to the X20's Kinetix Pro. As I am 98 kgs, the lack of spokes on the Kinetix Pro doesn't appeal to me. So, I ordered a pair of Weinmann SEC16 rims with the same number of spokes holes as the original Kinetix hubs. I then laced it and shodded it with a pair of Schwalbe Durano on it. I have been riding it off and on and it is fast and shifting is off course very smooth but I can't ride long as the size is an L size. You can hit 30 km/h cruising speed with it easily. That's my Dahon Dash X20 In Taobao, the frame is sold under Dahon Cheetah and the price is about RM1400 (after conversion) but the shipping is really a let down. RM400 to RM500 to ship over |
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Shipping under 0.1m3 by sea is rm65 oni, using agent, rmb1900 for dash frame, saw it not long ago, not always got frame only to sell. later I check n see.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 13 2015, 10:25 AM) Rodalink sold 2 units before for RM6,250.00 each. That's only one batch, never seen them again nor I saw anybody riding it. It is still available in Nava Bikes in Bangkok and there are also many unts in use in Singapore. I have the Dash P18 (2012 Taiwan made model) and it uses Tiagra RD with Microshift shifters and FD. So, I started to change the components to X20 specs but went a little overboard. I changed the whole groupset to Shimano 105 for RM1750 then. After 2 rides on the dropbars, I decided to go back to straight bar Wahlauway........RM6250.00!!! I'd rather my Moulton then!Later on, the Dash original rims doesn't look matching compared to the X20's Kinetix Pro. As I am 98 kgs, the lack of spokes on the Kinetix Pro doesn't appeal to me. So, I ordered a pair of Weinmann SEC16 rims with the same number of spokes holes as the original Kinetix hubs. I then laced it and shodded it with a pair of Schwalbe Durano on it. I have been riding it off and on and it is fast and shifting is off course very smooth but I can't ride long as the size is an L size. You can hit 30 km/h cruising speed with it easily. That's my Dahon Dash X20 In Taobao, the frame is sold under Dahon Cheetah and the price is about RM1400 (after conversion) but the shipping is really a let down. RM400 to RM500 to ship over Yes, modding is expensive business so I'm trying my best not to look here look there too much!! I agree with you re Tiagra 10 speed thumb shifters, they are not very smooth, not sure why?? I have also recently purchased a set of 105 brifters from Chain Reaction, for equivalent of RM414 free shipping, fantastic price. I'm over the moon with the shifting quality. Ok, better stop spending now.......oh wait.....too late, just seen something interesting...will tell later |
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 13 2015, 12:09 PM) it is not worth it la to get a x20... when u back to msia, perhaps, u shud persuade sifu etige to strip off all the parts of his dash and sell u the frame only, since he try to sell at 4.5k incl all the $$$$ parts... http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/277000/...dash-2012-model and built yourself smthing like this... ![]() the frame has 2 sizes, L and M. ![]() the dash p18 with disc brake in malaysia, all are M size, cos they din bring in L. very easy to spot a M frame, cos the top tube and down tube is a bit closer, but the head tube length remains the same. ![]() below is an L frame, claim to be 9.45KG... ![]() This post has been edited by H2D: Jan 13 2015, 02:51 PM |
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QUOTE(H2D @ Jan 13 2015, 02:42 PM) it is not worth it la to get a x20... hahahah,...sifu ettige,please pm me if u interested to sell the wheelset alone.looking for sexy 451 rims lah... when u back to msia, perhaps, u shud persuade sifu etige to strip off all the parts of his dash and sell u the frame only, since he try to sell at 4.5k incl all the $$$$ parts... http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/277000/...dash-2012-model |
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Hi all sifu, i owned a Java TT, it come with adjustable stem.
but one of the screw is missing and make my top part of the stem (attach to handlebar) is loose. I can move left and right when i loose the quick release to adjust the stem. I check for a long time, even i found a screw and screw it back, the stem still loose. Is ok when the QR is lock, the stem wont move, but when i want to fold it and release it, it will move left and right. Any sifu know how to solve the issue? Please help. Attached a photo, the screw is locate at the red circle but the picture is dahon stem. Thanks! This post has been edited by dieoledi: Jan 13 2015, 03:17 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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I think tht is a rivet? It fits into the groove of the inner batang. Tht is y it won't turn when u release the qr. Now gone it will turn. U can actuall jz find another screw or bolt tht can fit the hole, cut it short n fit it there, or u can jz do without it lor...
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QUOTE(H2D @ Jan 13 2015, 02:59 PM) Wow, where do you get all these pics from, nice!This FnHon frame.....the welding is scary man....... As for Etigge's Dash frame, it won't fit me either as I'm not tall enough! In any case, I have already spent my dough on this bike, which I will only see in a few months.......in Melbourne. She is waiting for me |
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QUOTE(dieoledi @ Jan 13 2015, 03:16 PM) Hi all sifu, i owned a Java TT, it come with adjustable stem. That little counter sunk Philips screw is an M3/2.5mm. It is just to align the extension along the grove. The upper extension will still move if the quick release is not tighten. It is also to hold the QR in place. You can get as many of it as you want from any Nut and Bolt shops. Most famous is the Central Nut and Bolts in Jalan San Peng. Along Jalan Balakong there's 2 of such shops also but Central Nut and Bolts are the best place. Here's the coordinates of the shop,but one of the screw is missing and make my top part of the stem (attach to handlebar) is loose. I can move left and right when i loose the quick release to adjust the stem. I check for a long time, even i found a screw and screw it back, the stem still loose. Is ok when the QR is lock, the stem wont move, but when i want to fold it and release it, it will move left and right. Any sifu know how to solve the issue? Please help. Attached a photo, the screw is locate at the red circle but the picture is dahon stem. Thanks! 3°08'02.5"N 101°42'29.2"E |
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Hi All,
thanks for the answer, I did found a screw and screw it back, but the handle still move left and right. When i tighten the screw, the ring in the inner stem is turn together with the screw. it seem the screw is use to push the inner ring to tighten the adjustable screw, so it won't move left right. Anyway I will check the shop to get the correct screw, thanks for the advice. Also tonight i will try to take out the upper part to see how is the thing work. thank you and have a good day |
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Jan 13 2015, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(dieoledi @ Jan 13 2015, 06:51 PM) Hi All, Even original, the top extension still moves a bit to the right and left. The said screw, protudes a little bit to stop it from turning all the way round, just within a grove on the top extension. It needs the quick release to really tighten it and also you need to stand in front and put the front wheel between your legs to hold and then align the handlebar straight before you tighten the quick release. I usually adjust only once, and never adjust anything again because releasing and tightening too much will loosen it more permanently in future. But that might hinder the folding a bit as you need to lengthen the extension to below the hubs to get a closer fold.thanks for the answer, I did found a screw and screw it back, but the handle still move left and right. When i tighten the screw, the ring in the inner stem is turn together with the screw. it seem the screw is use to push the inner ring to tighten the adjustable screw, so it won't move left right. Anyway I will check the shop to get the correct screw, thanks for the advice. Also tonight i will try to take out the upper part to see how is the thing work. thank you and have a good day |
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Jan 13 2015, 07:16 PM) Check this out ! http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/280543/...n-dash-20-speed http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/280542/...-race-mini-velo |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 13 2015, 09:32 PM) damn!......no jalan for me to buy this!! |
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went to one of the shop in Setapak, they have a folding bike brand "Mongoose". Anyone know how it the quality of that brand?
from what i knew, Mongoose previously known to produce BMX, not folding. tq in advance for your feedback. |
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Im interested to get a dash..im 170cm tall. Should i get m size of l size?
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Hi guys,
Is Dahon eezz D3 2015 already available here in Malaysia? Any estimation price? |
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QUOTE(zahirani @ Jan 14 2015, 09:33 PM) went to one of the shop in Setapak, they have a folding bike brand "Mongoose". Anyone know how it the quality of that brand? i have one friend using mongoose (the red bike), from what i knew, Mongoose previously known to produce BMX, not folding. tq in advance for your feedback. as for now, he just change the saddle. for the price, i think it's not bad » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by ajoi57: Jan 15 2015, 01:07 AM |
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QUOTE(zahirani @ Jan 14 2015, 09:33 PM) went to one of the shop in Setapak, they have a folding bike brand "Mongoose". Anyone know how it the quality of that brand? from what i knew, Mongoose previously known to produce BMX, not folding. tq in advance for your feedback. ![]() i used to own mongoose before. bought for rm780 at that time (that is 2 or 3 years ago) and now the price as low as rm700 and above with good built quality.you will find a bit different on the handle post compare to other.it use riser type of handlebar,screw type of stem-not quick release like other, BUT that is not a big problem for me lah! the main point i dislike about mongoose package is the wheelset and crank the wheelset is 451 with 34spoke if im not mistaken (hard to find replacement hub without changing the wheelset) and it used freewheel hub.means u will stuck at 8speed freewheel cogs.cranks also if im not mistaken 46t max with triple plate chainring.its useless to use the smallest one since you on 20" bike.i think those crank are for mtb setup you need extra cost to mod it and the cost to mod these 2 things nearly the same price you bought your mongoose folding bike.oh ya, got another model name naxxus identical to mongoose.its the same,just rebranding.if u just buy for easy leisure ride,its ok lah.but if u are planning to upgrade the gearset system, please keep in mind that the cost will be double ![]() and this is my mongoose,heavily moded i would strongly suggest you go for trinx ka2016 or ka2016d (d is for diskbrake version with 406 wheelset,non-d is a vbrek with 451 wheelset) over the mongoose since here in Ipoh the price for trinx starting from rm850-950.i heard in KL trinx model priced as low as rm1.1k |
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 15 2015, 08:26 AM) I would say M. Best to give it a try. You may have a longer torso/shorter legs or the other way around. Hmm any recommendation on which shop i can get a proper testing on the bike? Most shop dont allow testing. If i do get a test ride, what do i do or how should i know if the bike fits me? Any particular or correct way i should position myself on the bike? |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 15 2015, 05:47 PM) Hmm any recommendation on which shop i can get a proper testing on the bike? Most shop dont allow testing. If i do get a test ride, what do i do or how should i know if the bike fits me? Any particular or correct way i should position myself on the bike? Other members here will have to help you as I'm not familiar with the KL bike scene. The Dash will accept different length stem therefore you should be able to fine tune. One of my bikes was giving me a back-ache after riding, and swapping to a shorter stem fixed the problem. |
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What about this??? Just found advert. Don't know the person or business.
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got many of these fitters, from shop to private indv, retul, use laser, etc etc... to ppl use pro frm mcf...
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 13 2015, 09:30 PM) Even original, the top extension still moves a bit to the right and left. The said screw, protudes a little bit to stop it from turning all the way round, just within a grove on the top extension. It needs the quick release to really tighten it and also you need to stand in front and put the front wheel between your legs to hold and then align the handlebar straight before you tighten the quick release. I usually adjust only once, and never adjust anything again because releasing and tightening too much will loosen it more permanently in future. But that might hinder the folding a bit as you need to lengthen the extension to below the hubs to get a closer fold. Hi Sifu etigge, Due to the folding style, I been told to adjust the top extension to the max. so every time when i fold the bike i need to adjust the the top extension, and I not really like the handle bar too high when I ride. Yesterday I take our the screw to stop the top extension to fall out and is screw to the missing place and add some sticker to the gap, and now it only move around 1 to 2 mm. but the handlebar might drop out if the qr is release. at least now i have a sample to show to the shopper for a accurate screw when i go buy. Big thanks for the help! This post has been edited by dieoledi: Jan 16 2015, 11:09 AM |
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Jan 16 2015, 01:49 PM
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After riding i have lower back sore as well. No adjustment can be made on my bike handle bar so i guess can only adjust the seat post height and saddle angle.
Dont think i wana consult bike fitter..im just a casual rider haha. As for the dash..really eager to get one now. Went to kesas ride yst and those thin tayar bike can really zoom.. |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 16 2015, 01:49 PM) After riding i have lower back sore as well. No adjustment can be made on my bike handle bar so i guess can only adjust the seat post height and saddle angle. You are riding a Vybe right? Is your seat higher than the handlebar? If not, you are sitting in a more relaxed upright position already. Is the saddle pushed too far back? Make sure it is level too and not angled.Dont think i wana consult bike fitter..im just a casual rider haha. As for the dash..really eager to get one now. Went to kesas ride yst and those thin tayar bike can really zoom.. |
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 16 2015, 10:23 PM) You are riding a Vybe right? Is your seat higher than the handlebar? If not, you are sitting in a more relaxed upright position already. Is the saddle pushed too far back? Make sure it is level too and not angled. Riding a link. Seat used to be lower but some sifu tought me way to get correct seat height so now my seat post is adjusted higher than how i usually ride. Its actually almost the handle bar height..i cant even tip toe when bike is verticle. |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 16 2015, 01:49 PM) As for the dash..really eager to get one now. Went to kesas ride yst and those thin tayar bike can really zoom.. Bro..would you be interested in a pre-loved Dr Hon Dash P18 2013? Bought it sometime in Jan last year but couldn't give it much love as most of my riding time is spent on my other bikes (Birdy Deore LX/XT - folding, Cervelo One - rb, KHS Alite 1000 - mtb).I'm thinking of putting it up on BBS but would settle for a quick sell if there are offers. My asking price would be RM1.8k negotiable with a few accessories thrown in (Topeak Bar n' Mirror bar end, Wellgo M111 QRD pedals, Avid FR5 brake levers-not yet installed). The Dash is gathering dust now as the rear tube is punctured. Condition is 9/10 with some minor scratches and paint chipping plus wear & tear. Would post pics of the bike but I don't have any recent ones. The only one I got is the pic below from May 2013 of me riding it in Avanti Pahlawan Charity Ride (pic courtesy of Mr Sin Tai Lim's blog - Happy Happy) I'm currently outstation and will only be back in KL on Thursday. Can meet up at Desa Park City as I live near the area. Do PM me if you are interested! This post has been edited by mockbain: Jan 17 2015, 04:37 PM |
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QUOTE(mockbain @ Jan 17 2015, 04:27 PM) Bro..would you be interested in a pre-loved Dr Hon Dash P18 2013? Bought it sometime in Jan last year but couldn't give it much love as most of my riding time is spent on my other bikes (Birdy Deore LX/XT - folding, Cervelo One - rb, KHS Alite 1000 - mtb). UgpmI'm thinking of putting it up on BBS but would settle for a quick sell if there are offers. My asking price would be RM1.8k negotiable with a few accessories thrown in (Topeak Bar n' Mirror bar end, Wellgo M111 QRD pedals, Avid FR5 brake levers-not yet installed). The Dash is gathering dust now as the rear tube is punctured. Condition is 9/10 with some minor scratches and paint chipping plus wear & tear. Would post pics of the bike but I don't have any recent ones. The only one I got is the pic below from May 2013 of me riding it in Avanti Pahlawan Charity Ride (pic courtesy of Mr Sin Tai Lim's blog - Happy Happy) I'm currently outstation and will only be back in KL on Thursday. Can meet up at Desa Park City as I live near the area. Do PM me if you are interested! |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 17 2015, 01:55 PM) Riding a link. Seat used to be lower but some sifu tought me way to get correct seat height so now my seat post is adjusted higher than how i usually ride. Its actually almost the handle bar height..i cant even tip toe when bike is verticle. Well, did your back hurt before you raised the seat? If not, that's the answer. That sifu way sounds right, but you may not be as flexible perhaps. I would try lowering the seat an inch and see what happens. If that works and you may even want to get yourself an adjustable stem. That way you can have the seat height correct and increase the height of the handlebar so you are more upright. I'm no expert, but that's how I would tackle it. |
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The wait and search is over.... finally got myself the 2015 dahon speed today. what sifu etigge says its true, this steel bike is great in handling. very sturdy.
What I dun like or now checking with dahon forum is the fender has steel/alu spoke to hold the fender is suppose to be bent ? it looks like they created to make the fender hold firmly but I notice other shop they do not bent quite nicely as mine cost one is forcing the steel to bent in order to install the fender. Rest of it have no complain. great bike. Thanks Etigge for the recommendation. upgrade need to come later liao.... have commitment on my other bikes upgrade. |
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 17 2015, 08:50 PM) Well, did your back hurt before you raised the seat? If not, that's the answer. That sifu way sounds right, but you may not be as flexible perhaps. I would try lowering the seat an inch and see what happens. If that works and you may even want to get yourself an adjustable stem. That way you can have the seat height correct and increase the height of the handlebar so you are more upright. I'm no expert, but that's how I would tackle it. My back was sore before the adjustment and also after the adjustment. I think the culprit maybe a seat cushion i put on my saddle..i took it off today before a ride and didnt feel any sore. But have to try a few more rides to be sure. Tq bro |
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Hi...
Was wondering if any of u here using 451 wheelset? What tyres are u using if u are on that wheelset? I'm looking to change mine to Schwalbe but can't seem to find the right size in their website. Hope some of u can enlighten me on this. Thank u. |
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QUOTE(ralli_art @ Jan 18 2015, 05:16 PM) Hi... I am using both 406 and 451. For 451 available tires are usually slicks. Heavier treaded ones are rare and even if available, it's 1.35 inch. I got Schwalbe Duranos and I think Kimbell Jaya still has a few of them. GW cycle have them. Most common are Kendas likebthosebused in most brands as original. You have more choices in Singapore though , even Continental and Vedrestein.Was wondering if any of u here using 451 wheelset? What tyres are u using if u are on that wheelset? I'm looking to change mine to Schwalbe but can't seem to find the right size in their website. Hope some of u can enlighten me on this. Thank u. |
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QUOTE(ajoi57 @ Jan 15 2015, 01:06 AM) i have one friend using mongoose (the red bike), as for now, he just change the saddle. for the price, i think it's not bad » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jan 15 2015, 08:47 AM) ![]() i used to own mongoose before. bought for rm780 at that time (that is 2 or 3 years ago) and now the price as low as rm700 and above with good built quality.you will find a bit different on the handle post compare to other.it use riser type of handlebar,screw type of stem-not quick release like other, BUT that is not a big problem for me lah! the main point i dislike about mongoose package is the wheelset and crank the wheelset is 451 with 34spoke if im not mistaken (hard to find replacement hub without changing the wheelset) and it used freewheel hub.means u will stuck at 8speed freewheel cogs.cranks also if im not mistaken 46t max with triple plate chainring.its useless to use the smallest one since you on 20" bike.i think those crank are for mtb setup you need extra cost to mod it and the cost to mod these 2 things nearly the same price you bought your mongoose folding bike.oh ya, got another model name naxxus identical to mongoose.its the same,just rebranding.if u just buy for easy leisure ride,its ok lah.but if u are planning to upgrade the gearset system, please keep in mind that the cost will be double ![]() and this is my mongoose,heavily moded i would strongly suggest you go for trinx ka2016 or ka2016d (d is for diskbrake version with 406 wheelset,non-d is a vbrek with 451 wheelset) over the mongoose since here in Ipoh the price for trinx starting from rm850-950.i heard in KL trinx model priced as low as rm1.1k |
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If anyone has used Dahon dash to sell, please pm me.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 18 2015, 10:24 PM) I am using both 406 and 451. For 451 available tires are usually slicks. Heavier treaded ones are rare and even if available, it's 1.35 inch. I got Schwalbe Duranos and I think Kimbell Jaya still has a few of them. GW cycle have them. Most common are Kendas likebthosebused in most brands as original. You have more choices in Singapore though , even Continental and Vedrestein. May I know the size of the Schwalbe Duranos for the 451?What is the price like for 1pc? Thanks.... |
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QUOTE(zahirani @ Jan 18 2015, 10:45 PM) yeah,the built quality is good actually,accept for the gearset are not suitable imho QUOTE(ralli_art @ Jan 18 2015, 11:14 PM) usually 451 got 2 size.that is 1 1/8 and 1 3/8.i know 2 brand commonly my friends used it for 451 is schwalbe durano and kenda kriterium size 1 1/8.for 1 3/8 i only find kenda (forgot what model) and its hard to find here in ipoh |
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QUOTE(wke002 @ Jan 17 2015, 10:53 PM) The wait and search is over.... finally got myself the 2015 dahon speed today. what sifu etigge says its true, this steel bike is great in handling. very sturdy. My Speed P8's alu spoke for the fender is also slightly bent. I'm not too bother by it. Come to think of it it's probably purposely bent to absorb some bobbing / moving aroundWhat I dun like or now checking with dahon forum is the fender has steel/alu spoke to hold the fender is suppose to be bent ? it looks like they created to make the fender hold firmly but I notice other shop they do not bent quite nicely as mine cost one is forcing the steel to bent in order to install the fender. Rest of it have no complain. great bike. Thanks Etigge for the recommendation. upgrade need to come later liao.... have commitment on my other bikes upgrade. |
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QUOTE(ralli_art @ Jan 18 2015, 11:14 PM) Schwalbe Duranos are 1.1, in fact all diameter is 1.1. You can get it from Kimbell Jaya for RM68 each but only for the present batch. Later it would be over RM100 each. I heard the latest Schwalbe is available in 451s. |
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QUOTE(180jin @ Jan 19 2015, 11:05 AM) My Speed P8's alu spoke for the fender is also slightly bent. I'm not too bother by it. Come to think of it it's probably purposely bent to absorb some bobbing / moving around mmmm.....looks like its standard across all bikes with fenders. this new speed D8 seatpost sure is heavy. one noob question. when seatpost comes with our bikes, there is a non removal "adapter" that attached to the saddle. but when one buys seatpost on the market, its just one straight pole come with a U shape metal piece, clamps and screw. does the aftermarket dun have like the stock bike seatpost, attached together with the seatpost. cud this be one of the method to trim down weight ? |
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QUOTE(wke002 @ Jan 20 2015, 09:52 AM) mmmm.....looks like its standard across all bikes with fenders. The fender stays are sometimes too long. You may have to cut it shorter for it to be straight or bend it and not have to cut. Either way is fine.this new speed D8 seatpost sure is heavy. one noob question. when seatpost comes with our bikes, there is a non removal "adapter" that attached to the saddle. but when one buys seatpost on the market, its just one straight pole come with a U shape metal piece, clamps and screw. does the aftermarket dun have like the stock bike seatpost, attached together with the seatpost. cud this be one of the method to trim down weight ? After-market seat post are lighter, but be careful what you are buying and take into account the rider's weight. Lighter ones that are cheap may not be durable. Unless you are carrying the bike a lot, the slightly heavier original post will make no noticeable difference to the bike. You will still need to use effort to pedal!! Every seat post will come with its own design for attaching the saddle. This post has been edited by desastar: Jan 20 2015, 10:55 AM |
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Dear sifu, I'm new in foldable bicycle. Has been riding on 17-year-old mtb in taman taman but too bad it got stolen 2 weeks ago. Now would like to change to foldable bicycle so that can bring it to other places to join other bikers.
In my budget, I scale down into a few models and here are they: i) XDS FA16 16" ii) Raleigh Ugo 20" iii) XDS AFB320 20" iv) Dahon Vybe C7A 20" Actually I prefer 16" for better portability and smaller form factor. Please give me some valuable advice so that I can make up my mind to get a decent foldable bicycle. And the pros and cons on the rim size. My main purpose on this bike: i) Local short distance cycling (frequent) ii) Joining groups in other places (flat road or slight hilly) iii) My planning on cycling tour in north peninsular (in 2 years time after sufficient training) Thank you. Best regards, full |
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There were a bunch of cyclists just now when i was driving out from klcc going towards pavillion and bb road. I kept my distance from them but they weaving pass me and cars like rempits. Some without lights and no helmets. Cycling erratically and very fast in congested area ignoring traffic lights and almost hitting a padestrian who were crossing the road. One almost hit my side during a small corner. Mostly were road bikes but theres few foldies. To those who ride at cities at night, please dont ride like mtfkers.
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 20 2015, 10:26 PM) There were a bunch of cyclists just now when i was driving out from klcc going towards pavillion and bb road. I kept my distance from them but they weaving pass me and cars like rempits. Some without lights and no helmets. Cycling erratically and very fast in congested area ignoring traffic lights and almost hitting a padestrian who were crossing the road. One almost hit my side during a small corner. Mostly were road bikes but theres few foldies. To those who ride at cities at night, please dont ride like mtfkers. Totally agree with you... I was riding on kesas today.. And these bunch of rb riders act like Road bully yelling at everyone to give way to them and one of them even slowed down and point at a lady cyclist to stay in her lane.. I think it is quite rude... They even zig zag across lane like their father owns the road... Come on.. We are riders and we share the road as well.. |
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QUOTE(full @ Jan 20 2015, 11:53 AM) Dear sifu, I'm new in foldable bicycle. Has been riding on 17-year-old mtb in taman taman but too bad it got stolen 2 weeks ago. Now would like to change to foldable bicycle so that can bring it to other places to join other bikers. Since the Dahon Vybe C7A is on the list, take that. No arguments there since it is already in the list. The Raleigh Ugo is also good but you won't have regrets wit the Dahon Vybe.In my budget, I scale down into a few models and here are they: i) XDS FA16 16" ii) Raleigh Ugo 20" iii) XDS AFB320 20" iv) Dahon Vybe C7A 20" Actually I prefer 16" for better portability and smaller form factor. Please give me some valuable advice so that I can make up my mind to get a decent foldable bicycle. And the pros and cons on the rim size. My main purpose on this bike: i) Local short distance cycling (frequent) ii) Joining groups in other places (flat road or slight hilly) iii) My planning on cycling tour in north peninsular (in 2 years time after sufficient training) Thank you. Best regards, full |
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 21 2015, 12:05 PM) Since the Dahon Vybe C7A is on the list, take that. No arguments there since it is already in the list. The Raleigh Ugo is also good but you won't have regrets wit the Dahon Vybe. Thanks for the suggestion. Erm, another issue that I would like to know more, 16" and 20" punya pros and cons. Is that riding for long distance and long time, 16" will not be comfortable and not that efficient which include slight hilly area? Thank you. Regards, full |
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Hi all,
I just bought myself a tern folding bike recently, but it doesn't come with kick stand. I am now looking for one which is stable and lightweight. Based on your experience, which kick stand should I install and where can I get it ? (Preferred available locally) Thanks in advance. |
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Jan 21 2015, 03:31 PM
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Hi sifu, I am currently riding on a vigor p9 and think of upgrading to 18 or 27 speed.. What are the recommended brands and model for it? Fd, crank, hangar, shifter... Where is the recommended place to install ya?
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Jan 21 2015, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(full @ Jan 21 2015, 12:23 PM) Thanks for the suggestion. Erm, another issue that I would like to know more, 16" and 20" punya pros and cons. Is that riding for long distance and long time, 16" will not be comfortable and not that efficient which include slight hilly area? There are pros and cons. 16 incher is easier to ride uphill but quite twitchy when rolling downhill fast. You need to get use to it. The fold is obviously more compact than the regular 20 inch. Another cons of 16 inch is the limited tire choice. We were on a ride over 2 days once and included in our group was a 16 incher , an FNHon which I assembled and the rider is an elderly lady and she covered 214km with us. So, 16 or 20, it depends on your preference.Thank you. Regards, full Bear in mind also the 16 inch mentioned is also 20 speed so it can be upgraded too just as the 20 inch. The 20 inch on the other hand, is a more stable ride and parts and spares are more easily available. Still I feel you should go for the regular 20 inch if storage and fold compactness is not the main criteria. Just like folding speed, it is never an important reason to choose over which foodie for me because I don't mind taking 10 minutes to fold a bike. |
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Jan 21 2015, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 21 2015, 04:09 PM) There are pros and cons. 16 incher is easier to ride uphill but quite twitchy when rolling downhill fast. You need to get use to it. The fold is obviously more compact than the regular 20 inch. Another cons of 16 inch is the limited tire choice. We were on a ride over 2 days once and included in our group was a 16 incher , an FNHon which I assembled and the rider is an elderly lady and she covered 214km with us. So, 16 or 20, it depends on your preference. Yes, folding speed is not my concern as well. Currently I'll be eyeing on Vybe, as the top of the list.. Anyway, how do you think on the XDS FA16? Or any other 16" which is good to go with?Bear in mind also the 16 inch mentioned is also 20 speed so it can be upgraded too just as the 20 inch. The 20 inch on the other hand, is a more stable ride and parts and spares are more easily available. Still I feel you should go for the regular 20 inch if storage and fold compactness is not the main criteria. Just like folding speed, it is never an important reason to choose over which foodie for me because I don't mind taking 10 minutes to fold a bike. Thank you. Regards, full |
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Jan 21 2015, 07:28 PM
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I ride the vybe before, only thing is when daiki bukit its a little susah. 7 speed kinda limited tbh
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Jan 21 2015, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 21 2015, 07:28 PM) I ride the vybe before, only thing is when daiki bukit its a little susah. 7 speed kinda limited tbh Yes if you are likely to be riding in very hilly areas all the time, then don't bother with a 7 speed with a view to upgrading......it may not be easy and costly. You'd be better off spending more money as that will be cheaper in the long run. In any case riding in very hilly places are not that much fun so why ride there? HahahaBut if you are generally riding on level ground at normal speed, provided the 7 speed has nice ratios, you won't have to spend anymore. Then when you want to upgrade, you upgrade the whole bike! Much better value. Good example would be my Dahon Vitesse newly built from scratch with 105 running gear. This is more than twice the price of the Vybe I think. Is it good value? Yes if you can use all the gears and can appreciate the better quality parts, otherwise why bother? ![]() This post has been edited by desastar: Jan 21 2015, 08:53 PM |
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Jan 21 2015, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 21 2015, 08:49 PM) Yes if you are likely to be riding in very hilly areas all the time, then don't bother with a 7 speed with a view to upgrading......it may not be easy and costly. You'd be better off spending more money as that will be cheaper in the long run. In any case riding in very hilly places are not that much fun so why ride there? Hahaha This would be next project. With currencies against dollar is going to stay for sometime, those thinking to get a bike... Better fast, next batch import would not be cheap given they usually buy in us dollar.But if you are generally riding on level ground at normal speed, provided the 7 speed has nice ratios, you won't have to spend anymore. Then when you want to upgrade, you upgrade the whole bike! Much better value. Good example would be my Dahon Vitesse newly built from scratch with 105 running gear. This is more than twice the price of the Vybe I think. Is it good value? Yes if you can use all the gears and can appreciate the better quality parts, otherwise why bother? ![]() |
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Jan 22 2015, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(full @ Jan 21 2015, 04:30 PM) Yes, folding speed is not my concern as well. Currently I'll be eyeing on Vybe, as the top of the list.. Anyway, how do you think on the XDS FA16? Or any other 16" which is good to go with? I used to ride with a group where there are 2 teachers who rides the XDS 16 inch. I would say that the bike is quite good , strong frame but the bad point is the gearing. Since it is 16 inches and only 7 speed, you might freewheel when you ride a bit fast. So the riders tend to pedal like mad chasing after others as the smallest cog at the rear is 13 which is not small enough. But I have modded both the XDSes to 8 speed with 11 to 30 cogs and that helps a lot in them catching up with other riders.Thank you. Regards, full |
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Jan 22 2015, 04:08 AM
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Hi dear sifu all.. Newbie here...
I am riding a vigor p9.. And I read through the forum, by adding a chain ring, fd adapter and shifter can I achieve 18 speed? Went to kimbell today but was told to change the entire crankset as he said it is not possible to change those only and I was recommended a litepro crankset instead.. Is it a good buy or goodbye? |
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Jan 22 2015, 06:02 AM
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QUOTE(kenc112 @ Jan 22 2015, 04:08 AM) Hi dear sifu all.. Newbie here... Well, if your existing crank is one piece, you won't be able to mount a second chainring, hence the necessity to put in a new crank. How much? Depends on what brand and it may also involve changing the bottom bracket.... I am riding a vigor p9.. And I read through the forum, by adding a chain ring, fd adapter and shifter can I achieve 18 speed? Went to kimbell today but was told to change the entire crankset as he said it is not possible to change those only and I was recommended a litepro crankset instead.. Is it a good buy or goodbye? Are you running out of lower gears?? Which gear do you use most? Sifu E may have something to suit? |
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Jan 22 2015, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 22 2015, 06:02 AM) Well, if your existing crank is one piece, you won't be able to mount a second chainring, hence the necessity to put in a new crank. How much? Depends on what brand and it may also involve changing the bottom bracket.... Yes.. I am still suffering from hill climb due to my current existing crank running on its lowest gear, that is why think of doubling my speed now.. I am running on 5-8 speed on flat but if hilly climbs.. It will be the lowest or the first or second gear.. Are you running out of lower gears?? Which gear do you use most? Sifu E may have something to suit? Maybe sifu e can help me as well. |
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Jan 22 2015, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 22 2015, 06:02 AM) Well, if your existing crank is one piece, you won't be able to mount a second chainring, hence the necessity to put in a new crank. How much? Depends on what brand and it may also involve changing the bottom bracket.... Vigor P9 comes with 130 BCD chainring if I'm not mistaken.Are you running out of lower gears?? Which gear do you use most? Sifu E may have something to suit? |
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Jan 22 2015, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 22 2015, 06:09 AM) You can just add a 39T chainring right? https://www.facebook.com/MikeBicycleShop/ph...293713674099785 And then just need to get new FD and shifters? |
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Jan 22 2015, 07:05 AM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 22 2015, 06:58 AM) You can just add a 39T chainring right? Yea.. Will I be compatible? And just screw on right? Quality wise is this chain ring okay?https://www.facebook.com/MikeBicycleShop/ph...293713674099785 And then just need to get new FD and shifters? |
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Jan 22 2015, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(kenc112 @ Jan 22 2015, 07:05 AM) Looking at a pic of the Vigor, it does appear you can add on a chain ring (you'll have to replace the fixing bolts too). If this is so, try fitting one and manually move the chain over and see if rides nice. The chainline may need to be moved inwards or outwards by changing the bottom bracket...... If it is acceptable, all good and then spend money adding the front derailleur and shifter!This post has been edited by desastar: Jan 22 2015, 08:23 AM |
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Jan 22 2015, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 22 2015, 08:22 AM) Looking at a pic of the Vigor, it does appear you can add on a chain ring (you'll have to replace the fixing bolts too). If this is so, try fitting one and manually move the chain over and see if rides nice. The chainline may need to be moved inwards or outwards by changing the bottom bracket...... If it is acceptable, all good and then spend money adding the front derailleur and shifter! weeee... good to hear that! thanks all sifus for helping! would like to join u guys for some riding session if u guys do not mind! |
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Jan 22 2015, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(kenc112 @ Jan 22 2015, 07:05 AM) We are in the same boat. I'm thinking of adding 2nd chainring to my Vigor P9 too, same reason as you. I've only been doing some research online, but didn't have the time to go further. So I really don't know about the quality of this chainring. Don't know also if it's a good price. This post has been edited by whateva2k: Jan 22 2015, 09:24 AM |
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Jan 22 2015, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(boxerawd @ Jan 21 2015, 02:33 PM) Hi all, we have same problem. I just bought myself a tern folding bike recently, but it doesn't come with kick stand. I am now looking for one which is stable and lightweight. Based on your experience, which kick stand should I install and where can I get it ? (Preferred available locally) Thanks in advance. |
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Jan 22 2015, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 22 2015, 09:15 AM) We are in the same boat. I'm thinking of adding 2nd chainring to my Vigor P9 too, same reason as you. hmm.. or maybe considering getting a 105 crankset? i saw some second hand with quite a decent price but was quicly grabbed by others...I've only been doing some research online, but didn't have the time to go further. So I really don't know about the quality of this chainring. Don't know also if it's a good price. Kimbell is selling a 53/39 crankset by litepro but i don't know whether it is reliable or not.. price is 3xx++ inclusive BB |
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Jan 22 2015, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(kenc112 @ Jan 22 2015, 10:06 AM) hmm.. or maybe considering getting a 105 crankset? i saw some second hand with quite a decent price but was quicly grabbed by others... If the price is 3xx for a litepro, you might as well go 105.....buy my calculation via Wiggle is about RM370, plus add BB. For the price of the single chainring at RM48, worth trying and see if that's what you want before spending anymore money. Quality should be no worse than the Dahon original stuff I think. I remember the one on my Speed D7, I can bend it if I hit it hard enough Kimbell is selling a 53/39 crankset by litepro but i don't know whether it is reliable or not.. price is 3xx++ inclusive BB |
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Jan 22 2015, 01:53 PM
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I want to upgrade my tern d16 wheelset. From what i understood so far..my original stock wheels are 20 inch 406 freehub wheels(pls correct me if im wrong). I want to replace it with something with better bearings/spinning capability so i can more speedy but maintaining 406 wheels instead of 451. Any reccomendation of where or what should i be looking for?
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Jan 22 2015, 02:02 PM
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Is it really possible to just add a second chainring to an existing single chainring crankset?
I have a driveline single chainring crankset 52T 130mm BCD, and am thinking of adding a second chainring but I kinda remember reading somewhere here someone said it's not possible to just add a second chainring, gotta change the crankset entirely. Need some enlightenment on this from the sifus! Lol |
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Jan 22 2015, 03:32 PM
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considering to buy java fit...
but the lbs said there will be new java release ... is it? |
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Jan 22 2015, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Jan 22 2015, 02:02 PM) Is it really possible to just add a second chainring to an existing single chainring crankset? OK I will clarify . If your crank and chainring has 5 Allen bolts on it, then you just buy a 39 or a 42 smaller chainring and bolt on it. You don't need to change the bolts but you will have to discard the bash guard. The bigger chainring will sit on the the bash guard's place and the smaller chainring on the original chainring place.I have a driveline single chainring crankset 52T 130mm BCD, and am thinking of adding a second chainring but I kinda remember reading somewhere here someone said it's not possible to just add a second chainring, gotta change the crankset entirely. Need some enlightenment on this from the sifus! Lol Other than that is off course the shifter and the FD plus it's adapter . Then there's the cable and housing. |
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Jan 22 2015, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 22 2015, 07:05 PM) OK I will clarify . If your crank and chainring has 5 Allen bolts on it, then you just buy a 39 or a 42 smaller chainring and bolt on it. You don't need to change the bolts but you will have to discard the bash guard. The bigger chainring will sit on the the bash guard's place and the smaller chainring on the original chainring place. Oh dear, I like having the bash guard! Is it possible to get longer bolts and maintain the bash guard and have both chainrings? Sorry for asking so many questions. Thanks again etigge!Other than that is off course the shifter and the FD plus it's adapter . Then there's the cable and housing. |
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Jan 22 2015, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(kenc112 @ Jan 22 2015, 06:08 AM) Yes.. I am still suffering from hill climb due to my current existing crank running on its lowest gear, that is why think of doubling my speed now.. I am running on 5-8 speed on flat but if hilly climbs.. It will be the lowest or the first or second gear.. There are 2 ways about it. One is off course add an extra or two chainring and go through the whole FD and adapter process. Other than that, you can also just upgrade straight to 10 speed which gives a 36 cog maximum at the rear. Maybe sifu e can help me as well. If you adjust the chain carefully, the cage will be pulled to the front on the 36cog setting so it won't hit the ground. When you do this, you have the advantage of modding to 20 speed later if you still find it insufficient low gear. Just go to BBS site and hunt for mob parts. I modded a Vybe C7s the other day with a Deore shifter and it was perfect. PS/another way is get a smaller chainring but at the expense of speed at the highest gear. This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 22 2015, 07:18 PM |
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Jan 22 2015, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Jan 22 2015, 07:09 PM) Oh dear, I like having the bash guard! Is it possible to get longer bolts and maintain the bash guard and have both chainrings? Sorry for asking so many questions. Thanks again etigge! Yes, you can. There are longer bolts with spacers for it. Come to think of it, I do have a set of it. PM me if you want it. Problem is, just maybe , the position of the inner chainring a might be too far in if you use the spacers and to remedy this you need a BB with longer spindle which is so hard to find, especially the 128mm ones. Another solution is to add spacer to the BB to bring the spindle further out. |
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Jan 22 2015, 11:33 PM
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Hi all sifus....2day as i rode my mu n notice dat while riding on it if i try to pull or push d handle theres a "squeek" sound....does any1 hv tis problem on their dahon bike b4..... how can i diy to fix d problem or should i send it bek to d shop as its still warranty....
There another problem w another vybe bike too same area but handle fells thight to turn either left or right.... Hope u can give me some advice....tq |
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Jan 23 2015, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 22 2015, 07:13 PM) There are 2 ways about it. One is off course add an extra or two chainring and go through the whole FD and adapter process. Other than that, you can also just upgrade straight to 10 speed which gives a 36 cog maximum at the rear. Wee... Thanks for the enlighten sifu! If you adjust the chain carefully, the cage will be pulled to the front on the 36cog setting so it won't hit the ground. When you do this, you have the advantage of modding to 20 speed later if you still find it insufficient low gear. Just go to BBS site and hunt for mob parts. I modded a Vybe C7s the other day with a Deore shifter and it was perfect. PS/another way is get a smaller chainring but at the expense of speed at the highest gear. U do modification as well? Maybe can help me out to upgrade to 20 speed then.. |
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Jan 23 2015, 06:05 AM
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Jan 22 2015, 11:33 PM) Hi all sifus....2day as i rode my mu n notice dat while riding on it if i try to pull or push d handle theres a "squeek" sound....does any1 hv tis problem on their dahon bike b4..... how can i diy to fix d problem or should i send it bek to d shop as its still warranty.... If it is under warranty, take it back. Why touch it yourself?There another problem w another vybe bike too same area but handle fells thight to turn either left or right.... Hope u can give me some advice....tq Sounds like the head bearing too tight anbd not properly greased? The original bearing is not that great anyway. |
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Jan 23 2015, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 22 2015, 07:34 PM) Yes, you can. There are longer bolts with spacers for it. Come to think of it, I do have a set of it. PM me if you want it. Problem is, just maybe , the position of the inner chainring a might be too far in if you use the spacers and to remedy this you need a BB with longer spindle which is so hard to find, especially the 128mm ones. Another solution is to add spacer to the BB to bring the spindle further out. Thanks for your kind offer but wow sounds really complicated about the BB thing! I'm in no rush to get the second chainring. Probably only later this year, just wanna find out more about what are the most cost effective options.I'm sure there are ways to settle the BB issue though |
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Jan 23 2015, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 23 2015, 06:05 AM) If it is under warranty, take it back. Why touch it yourself? I have tried using normal mtb sealed bearing and it can be used provided you use the original headset cover from the old one. You need to changed the crown as well. Taking out the crown from the fork is a bit tricky though without a crown ring remover.Sounds like the head bearing too tight anbd not properly greased? The original bearing is not that great anyway. |
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Jan 23 2015, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 23 2015, 12:47 PM) I have tried using normal mtb sealed bearing and it can be used provided you use the original headset cover from the old one. You need to changed the crown as well. Taking out the crown from the fork is a bit tricky though without a crown ring remover. Sifu, you are right. When I had to remove the crown last time, i was scratching my head wondering what to do. I finally used a carpenter's chisel and slowly tap tap tap until it lifter off the base. This is caveman at work, hahaha, no special tool available, so just use what I have. |
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Jan 23 2015, 02:15 PM
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Hi all,
I need guidance here. I have an upgrade target for my Vigor P9, eventually having either 18 or 20 speed. But I like to do it in stages, first changing the RD shifter, then RD, then adding 2nd chainring and FD. While upgrading in stages, I also don't want to change the upgraded component as I go. For example, I want to change my RD shifter first, so I need to make sure the RD shifter I get will be compatible with all future upgrades of other components. Therefore, I have questions as follows: 1. Will a 10 speed shifter, say a Shimano Tiagra 10 speed shifter works with my current 9 speed Neos RD and 9 speed cassette? 2. Will a 10 speed RD & shifter, say a Tiagra 10 speed shifter and RD works with my current 9 speed cassette? Thanks in advance! |
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Jan 23 2015, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 23 2015, 02:15 PM) Hi all, The stock Vigor P9 cassette is 11T/32T, just for your information if it matters.I need guidance here. I have an upgrade target for my Vigor P9, eventually having either 18 or 20 speed. But I like to do it in stages, first changing the RD shifter, then RD, then adding 2nd chainring and FD. While upgrading in stages, I also don't want to change the upgraded component as I go. For example, I want to change my RD shifter first, so I need to make sure the RD shifter I get will be compatible with all future upgrades of other components. Therefore, I have questions as follows: 1. Will a 10 speed shifter, say a Shimano Tiagra 10 speed shifter works with my current 9 speed Neos RD and 9 speed cassette? 2. Will a 10 speed RD & shifter, say a Tiagra 10 speed shifter and RD works with my current 9 speed cassette? Thanks in advance! This post has been edited by whateva2k: Jan 23 2015, 02:34 PM |
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Jan 23 2015, 02:42 PM
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from guan chows' website... http://gccycle.com/index.php/product/dahon if the only dahon which has double crank is the 2015 dash isn't it stupid? since more than 4 years ago, when dahon is getting popular here, the distributor lerun refuse to take in bikes which has more speed and normal folding bike frame, ie vitesse p18 etc,, until last year? finally visc p18... which is the fugly version now tarak liao?? so sure loose to those java etc etc ..... This post has been edited by H2D: Jan 23 2015, 02:50 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Jan 23 2015, 04:08 PM
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new user with raleigh ugo report in
might consider to buy child seat, rear rack where can i get those part ?? if i put front rack, it is looks like aunty's bike?? |
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Jan 23 2015, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 23 2015, 02:33 PM) Best to save your money and then do the whole upgrade in one go. Why? all the compatible components are installed at once and the whole thing is then tuned to operate smoothly. I don't think the Tiagra 10 speed shifter will work with the Neos 9 speed RD. Tiagra 10 speed RD short cage will not work with your current cassette. |
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Jan 23 2015, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(H2D @ Jan 23 2015, 02:42 PM) from guan chows' website... http://gccycle.com/index.php/product/dahon if the only dahon which has double crank is the 2015 dash isn't it stupid? since more than 4 years ago, when dahon is getting popular here, the distributor lerun refuse to take in bikes which has more speed and normal folding bike frame, ie vitesse p18 etc,, until last year? finally visc p18... which is the fugly version now tarak liao?? so sure loose to those java etc etc ..... |
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Jan 23 2015, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 23 2015, 02:15 PM) Hi all, I can understand the reason for upgrading in stages as I did the same. It is easier to actually get a high spec bike slowly as what I wanted will cost 6k if I choose a Dahon with the specs.I need guidance here. I have an upgrade target for my Vigor P9, eventually having either 18 or 20 speed. But I like to do it in stages, first changing the RD shifter, then RD, then adding 2nd chainring and FD. While upgrading in stages, I also don't want to change the upgraded component as I go. For example, I want to change my RD shifter first, so I need to make sure the RD shifter I get will be compatible with all future upgrades of other components. Therefore, I have questions as follows: 1. Will a 10 speed shifter, say a Shimano Tiagra 10 speed shifter works with my current 9 speed Neos RD and 9 speed cassette? 2. Will a 10 speed RD & shifter, say a Tiagra 10 speed shifter and RD works with my current 9 speed cassette? Thanks in advance! Sadly, you can't upgrade the way you mentioned as Tiagra 10 speed shifters are not compatible with a 9 speed RD. If you want you have to get the whole front modded and then the whole rear modded at once. So I can suggest going for 9 speed. That way. You first buy a 9 speed shifter, bear in mind, SRAM and Shimano are not compatible. Also road bikes and mtb has different shifting index length. If you choose Tiagra or 760 shifters, these are road bike flat bar shifters so mtb RDS are not suitable. But if you choose mtb shifters, you can use road bike RDs as long as your cassette don't exceed 30 teeth as roadie RDs has short cage. So start with say 9 speed Alivio or Accera shifter. That way you can still use the Neos RD and then later change the RD. Then later add a chain ring to the front. This way if you ride hilly area, just shift the chain manually by hand to the smaller chain ring. Then later the FD and adapter and finally you have 18 speed which is sufficient for Fraser's Hill if you are on mtb set up at the rear. The front is always roadie 53/39 set up. |
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Jan 23 2015, 09:44 PM
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Sifu etigge is the technical expert, a "school of hard knocks" graduate, ie from experience instead of theory. I enjoy learning from him face-to-face when I need his help to upgrade. Hopefully, all the active forumers will have the opportunity to ride together, share personal experience and discuss upgrades over a teh Tarik session.
After all, big boys do need new toys every now and then ! Hopefully, we can control the CBBD syndrome (Compulsive Bicycle Buying Disorder) or our other half will be screaming their head off ! |
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 23 2015, 08:35 PM) True..all dahon models has single digit speed except the dash. Upgrading is seriously a headache unless you a pro..i think will also void the frame warranty. I am also very confuse with their color choice for the dash not all dahons la.... anyway guan chow said dash D18 oni in may this year, n visc p18 oso later this year..... |
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Jan 24 2015, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 23 2015, 08:24 PM) Best to save your money and then do the whole upgrade in one go. Why? all the compatible components are installed at once and the whole thing is then tuned to operate smoothly. The reason why I like to do it in stages is more to because I want to upgrade it myself. I am kind of a DIY person. And since I'm new to upgrading bicycles, upgrading in stages presents less challenges.I don't think the Tiagra 10 speed shifter will work with the Neos 9 speed RD. Tiagra 10 speed RD short cage will not work with your current cassette. Also, to save cost and to maximise the usage of the current components, I plan to change and upgrades in stages according to my needs. Right now, the Neos shifter really sucks! I don't know bicycles terms, so I don't know how to describe it. I can only say that comparing to the stock SRAM 7 speed shifter that came with my Dahon Arc D7, the SRAM is sooooooo much better. So the Tiagra shifter won't work with the Neos RD, and the Tiagra RD SS won't work with the current 9 speed 11T-32T cassette. Got it. So if I want Tiagra RD and shifter, I have to change it together with a 10 speed cassette, and the lowest gear is only 30T, right? That's kind of a bummer, since I also need higher gear ratio for my Vigor P9 now. |
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Jan 24 2015, 10:00 AM
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Enjoy the ride on any bikes that you own. Leave the upgrading as secondary as the process will never end.
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Jan 24 2015, 10:29 AM
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Jan 24 2015, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 23 2015, 09:02 PM) I can understand the reason for upgrading in stages as I did the same. It is easier to actually get a high spec bike slowly as what I wanted will cost 6k if I choose a Dahon with the specs. Wow, these bicycle upgrading can be complicated, at least for me.Sadly, you can't upgrade the way you mentioned as Tiagra 10 speed shifters are not compatible with a 9 speed RD. If you want you have to get the whole front modded and then the whole rear modded at once. So I can suggest going for 9 speed. That way. You first buy a 9 speed shifter, bear in mind, SRAM and Shimano are not compatible. Also road bikes and mtb has different shifting index length. If you choose Tiagra or 760 shifters, these are road bike flat bar shifters so mtb RDS are not suitable. But if you choose mtb shifters, you can use road bike RDs as long as your cassette don't exceed 30 teeth as roadie RDs has short cage. So start with say 9 speed Alivio or Accera shifter. That way you can still use the Neos RD and then later change the RD. Then later add a chain ring to the front. This way if you ride hilly area, just shift the chain manually by hand to the smaller chain ring. Then later the FD and adapter and finally you have 18 speed which is sufficient for Fraser's Hill if you are on mtb set up at the rear. The front is always roadie 53/39 set up. I've only been looking at road bike set up as I thought mtb set up would not be suitable for foldie since the RD cage is longer, and also the general gear ratios are higher, won't be suitable for small wheels. If I would to go with Alivio or Acera shifter, what are the options for RD later? Also what I've learned from previous post is shifters comes in pairs. With Alivio and Accera, what are the options for FD later? How about Sora shifters? How is it compared to Alivio and Acera? And Sora RD? Seems to be able to take my current 32T cassette. This post has been edited by whateva2k: Jan 24 2015, 10:53 AM |
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Jan 24 2015, 02:36 PM
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[quote=whateva2k,Jan 24 2015, 10:52 AM]
Wow, these bicycle upgrading can be complicated, at least for me. I've only been looking at road bike set up as I thought mtb set up would not be suitable for foldie since the RD cage is longer, and also the general gear ratios are higher, won't be suitable for small wheels. If I would to go with Alivio or Acera shifter, what are the options for RD later? Also what I've learned from previous post is shifters comes in pairs. With Alivio and Accera, what are the options for FD later? How about Sora shifters? How is it compared to Alivio and Acera? Am also new to bike. I was looking at changing my mtb brakes and wanted to try diy but later learn its so much cheaper to change the whole groupset. Sure it cost more than my intention but if i put the parts together piece by piece, its going to cost more and it does not help or make a true difference if one to change front or rear derail etc in my personal opinion. Hence, am now savings for my new groupset now. |
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Jan 24 2015, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 24 2015, 10:52 AM) Wow, these bicycle upgrading can be complicated, at least for me. Sora is a 9 speed roadie components. The max is 30T so if you are operating at 32T, then the cage is at the max already, I did once on a Tern Link P9 using original cassette. I think they are not cheap either, just a few bucks less than the Tiagra. If you use Alivio or Accera shifters, the front FD is possible for 2 speed as well. You just lock the FD and the shifters stop at 2 and can't go further. I install an Accera RD on a Vybe C7s with 34 cogs max. The last is almost touching the tire and ground but at thus setting you are climbing and at low speed so it should be OK.I've only been looking at road bike set up as I thought mtb set up would not be suitable for foldie since the RD cage is longer, and also the general gear ratios are higher, won't be suitable for small wheels. If I would to go with Alivio or Acera shifter, what are the options for RD later? Also what I've learned from previous post is shifters comes in pairs. With Alivio and Accera, what are the options for FD later? How about Sora shifters? How is it compared to Alivio and Acera? And Sora RD? Seems to be able to take my current 32T cassette. |
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Jan 24 2015, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 24 2015, 09:32 AM) The reason why I like to do it in stages is more to because I want to upgrade it myself. I am kind of a DIY person. And since I'm new to upgrading bicycles, upgrading in stages presents less challenges. I tried the 10sp Tiagra shifter with a 9sp cassette once, but I simply could not get it to work properly, so no choice but to but a 10 sp cassette. If you can't stand the Neos shifter anymore, perhaps you'll have to these together. You can still buy the 9sp version of the Tiagra shifter, that way you won't need the cassette...but you'll have to get the long cage Sora or Tiagra RD. I went the short cage because I figured the second front chain ring will provide all the lower gears I'd need. You'll have to decide how low the gearing must be for you. Very few of us will use say, 53 + 11, or 39 + 34 for long period of time, hence sometimes I think having too many gears are a waste of time ! LOLAlso, to save cost and to maximise the usage of the current components, I plan to change and upgrades in stages according to my needs. Right now, the Neos shifter really sucks! I don't know bicycles terms, so I don't know how to describe it. I can only say that comparing to the stock SRAM 7 speed shifter that came with my Dahon Arc D7, the SRAM is sooooooo much better. So the Tiagra shifter won't work with the Neos RD, and the Tiagra RD SS won't work with the current 9 speed 11T-32T cassette. Got it. So if I want Tiagra RD and shifter, I have to change it together with a 10 speed cassette, and the lowest gear is only 30T, right? That's kind of a bummer, since I also need higher gear ratio for my Vigor P9 now. |
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Jan 24 2015, 09:11 PM
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Thank you all 4 d advice...shall send my mu back to them only after cny as work shedule r full n hope to "cheong" another bike too....😆
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Jan 25 2015, 02:16 AM
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Thanks guys for your advice and sharing of your experience. I'm slowly getting the picture now.
I would prefer a short cage RD and realise I don't mind loosing 32T sprocket if I have second chainring. |
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Jan 26 2015, 07:24 PM
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From the description below, can anybody tell if this is a 406 or a 451 wheelset?
Size: 18 "Shimano cassette 135mm, 20" Shimano cassette 130mm, 20 "Shimano cassette 135mm Hall: F = 20H / R = 24H Rim: A-CLASS "EXA" alloy, matte black, single eyelet Hub: 7075 alloy axle, sealed bearings, matte black Spoke: stainless steel, black Race: F = radial / R = L: 2 Cross R: 2 Cross Weight: <18 "> F = 532g / R = 796g, <20"> F = 622g / R = 860g OLD: <18 "> (F) 100 × ® 135mm, <20"> (F) 130 × ® 135mm Spoke length: <18 "> (F) 151 × ® 157 / 160mm, <20"> (F) 175 × ® 182 / 185mm |
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Jan 26 2015, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 26 2015, 07:24 PM) From the description below, can anybody tell if this is a 406 or a 451 wheelset? I might be wrong but I think the rims are from a model of Birdy bikes which uses 18 inch wheels. So, it is neither 406 nor 451. Size: 18 "Shimano cassette 135mm, 20" Shimano cassette 130mm, 20 "Shimano cassette 135mm Hall: F = 20H / R = 24H Rim: A-CLASS "EXA" alloy, matte black, single eyelet Hub: 7075 alloy axle, sealed bearings, matte black Spoke: stainless steel, black Race: F = radial / R = L: 2 Cross R: 2 Cross Weight: <18 "> F = 532g / R = 796g, <20"> F = 622g / R = 860g OLD: <18 "> (F) 100 × ® 135mm, <20"> (F) 130 × ® 135mm Spoke length: <18 "> (F) 151 × ® 157 / 160mm, <20"> (F) 175 × ® 182 / 185mm |
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Jan 26 2015, 08:51 PM
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Jan 26 2015, 09:59 PM
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Sorry another open question. 20 inch 130mm and 20 inch 135mm is it 406 and 451 wheels respectively?
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Jan 26 2015, 10:46 PM
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135 130 refers to the rear hub length la...
Sifu etig will tell more... |
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Jan 26 2015, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(handsomedog @ Jan 26 2015, 09:59 PM) The 130mm and 135mm refers to the width of the rear hub. It actually can be fitted regardlessly only if your frame is 130mm you can force open the width and if you have 135mm frame, you can tighten the QR tighter to close the gap. |
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Jan 26 2015, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(H2D @ Jan 26 2015, 10:46 PM) QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 26 2015, 10:48 PM) The 130mm and 135mm refers to the width of the rear hub. It actually can be fitted regardlessly only if your frame is 130mm you can force open the width and if you have 135mm frame, you can tighten the QR tighter to close the gap. Ohh..lol. difficult la to buy wheels. Thanks sifu ettige and h2d |
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Jan 26 2015, 11:24 PM
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Guys.. do you ride when it's sunny out? How's all of your riding schedule looks like? Do you drive to your riding spot?
I've tried starting my ride at 9am (100km+), and i think u can just imagine the suffering and time taken... Never again, and it did my skin a considerable damage I really can't find time out of my schedule, and most of my available timeslot is on noon... or when the sun's coming up. I can find time to ride at night, but I really fell unsafe since there's lesser cars around... (ie.lesser car, more idiots will think they can get away doing stupid things to you) |
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Jan 26 2015, 11:31 PM
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Hi al sifus here.. i am looking for advice on which folding bike to get...
Juz wan it for doing exercise ..budget around rm1k |
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Jan 27 2015, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(Spitzer @ Jan 26 2015, 11:24 PM) Guys.. do you ride when it's sunny out? How's all of your riding schedule looks like? Do you drive to your riding spot? I tried riding kesas from sri petaling to subang jaya to sri petaling before starting at 11am. 20+km about an hour ride..its bearable but i wont do it again lah. The amount of sweat is like after i came out of swimming pool. Waking up early is difficult for me haha. You can look for cycling groups who goes ride at night. Loads of them.I've tried starting my ride at 9am (100km+), and i think u can just imagine the suffering and time taken... Never again, and it did my skin a considerable damage I really can't find time out of my schedule, and most of my available timeslot is on noon... or when the sun's coming up. I can find time to ride at night, but I really fell unsafe since there's lesser cars around... (ie.lesser car, more idiots will think they can get away doing stupid things to you) QUOTE(bee993 @ Jan 26 2015, 11:31 PM) Hi al sifus here.. i am looking for advice on which folding bike to get... Where do you live? Theres a few reputable shops selling folding bikes in klang valley. You need go and look see look see Juz wan it for doing exercise ..budget around rm1k |
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Jan 27 2015, 12:43 PM
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You guys know the dimension of dash x20 when in box?
Been liasing with a dude in japan but likely the box going to be too big to be posted The price so cheap some more http://www.stampringstop.com/folding-small...-20speed-nda005 Maximum parcel dimension http://www.post.japanpost.jp/english/fee/i...al_emssize.html This post has been edited by handsomedog: Jan 27 2015, 12:45 PM |
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