QUOTE(frankie chin @ Jan 9 2015, 09:47 PM)
How much for the Mu D8?
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Jan 10 2015, 07:08 AM
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Jan 22 2015, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 22 2015, 06:02 AM) Well, if your existing crank is one piece, you won't be able to mount a second chainring, hence the necessity to put in a new crank. How much? Depends on what brand and it may also involve changing the bottom bracket.... Vigor P9 comes with 130 BCD chainring if I'm not mistaken.Are you running out of lower gears?? Which gear do you use most? Sifu E may have something to suit? |
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Jan 22 2015, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 22 2015, 06:09 AM) You can just add a 39T chainring right? https://www.facebook.com/MikeBicycleShop/ph...293713674099785 And then just need to get new FD and shifters? |
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Jan 22 2015, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(kenc112 @ Jan 22 2015, 07:05 AM) We are in the same boat. I'm thinking of adding 2nd chainring to my Vigor P9 too, same reason as you. I've only been doing some research online, but didn't have the time to go further. So I really don't know about the quality of this chainring. Don't know also if it's a good price. This post has been edited by whateva2k: Jan 22 2015, 09:24 AM |
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Jan 23 2015, 02:15 PM
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Hi all,
I need guidance here. I have an upgrade target for my Vigor P9, eventually having either 18 or 20 speed. But I like to do it in stages, first changing the RD shifter, then RD, then adding 2nd chainring and FD. While upgrading in stages, I also don't want to change the upgraded component as I go. For example, I want to change my RD shifter first, so I need to make sure the RD shifter I get will be compatible with all future upgrades of other components. Therefore, I have questions as follows: 1. Will a 10 speed shifter, say a Shimano Tiagra 10 speed shifter works with my current 9 speed Neos RD and 9 speed cassette? 2. Will a 10 speed RD & shifter, say a Tiagra 10 speed shifter and RD works with my current 9 speed cassette? Thanks in advance! |
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Jan 23 2015, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(whateva2k @ Jan 23 2015, 02:15 PM) Hi all, The stock Vigor P9 cassette is 11T/32T, just for your information if it matters.I need guidance here. I have an upgrade target for my Vigor P9, eventually having either 18 or 20 speed. But I like to do it in stages, first changing the RD shifter, then RD, then adding 2nd chainring and FD. While upgrading in stages, I also don't want to change the upgraded component as I go. For example, I want to change my RD shifter first, so I need to make sure the RD shifter I get will be compatible with all future upgrades of other components. Therefore, I have questions as follows: 1. Will a 10 speed shifter, say a Shimano Tiagra 10 speed shifter works with my current 9 speed Neos RD and 9 speed cassette? 2. Will a 10 speed RD & shifter, say a Tiagra 10 speed shifter and RD works with my current 9 speed cassette? Thanks in advance! This post has been edited by whateva2k: Jan 23 2015, 02:34 PM |
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Jan 24 2015, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 23 2015, 08:24 PM) Best to save your money and then do the whole upgrade in one go. Why? all the compatible components are installed at once and the whole thing is then tuned to operate smoothly. The reason why I like to do it in stages is more to because I want to upgrade it myself. I am kind of a DIY person. And since I'm new to upgrading bicycles, upgrading in stages presents less challenges.I don't think the Tiagra 10 speed shifter will work with the Neos 9 speed RD. Tiagra 10 speed RD short cage will not work with your current cassette. Also, to save cost and to maximise the usage of the current components, I plan to change and upgrades in stages according to my needs. Right now, the Neos shifter really sucks! I don't know bicycles terms, so I don't know how to describe it. I can only say that comparing to the stock SRAM 7 speed shifter that came with my Dahon Arc D7, the SRAM is sooooooo much better. So the Tiagra shifter won't work with the Neos RD, and the Tiagra RD SS won't work with the current 9 speed 11T-32T cassette. Got it. So if I want Tiagra RD and shifter, I have to change it together with a 10 speed cassette, and the lowest gear is only 30T, right? That's kind of a bummer, since I also need higher gear ratio for my Vigor P9 now. |
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Jan 24 2015, 10:29 AM
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Jan 24 2015, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 23 2015, 09:02 PM) I can understand the reason for upgrading in stages as I did the same. It is easier to actually get a high spec bike slowly as what I wanted will cost 6k if I choose a Dahon with the specs. Wow, these bicycle upgrading can be complicated, at least for me.Sadly, you can't upgrade the way you mentioned as Tiagra 10 speed shifters are not compatible with a 9 speed RD. If you want you have to get the whole front modded and then the whole rear modded at once. So I can suggest going for 9 speed. That way. You first buy a 9 speed shifter, bear in mind, SRAM and Shimano are not compatible. Also road bikes and mtb has different shifting index length. If you choose Tiagra or 760 shifters, these are road bike flat bar shifters so mtb RDS are not suitable. But if you choose mtb shifters, you can use road bike RDs as long as your cassette don't exceed 30 teeth as roadie RDs has short cage. So start with say 9 speed Alivio or Accera shifter. That way you can still use the Neos RD and then later change the RD. Then later add a chain ring to the front. This way if you ride hilly area, just shift the chain manually by hand to the smaller chain ring. Then later the FD and adapter and finally you have 18 speed which is sufficient for Fraser's Hill if you are on mtb set up at the rear. The front is always roadie 53/39 set up. I've only been looking at road bike set up as I thought mtb set up would not be suitable for foldie since the RD cage is longer, and also the general gear ratios are higher, won't be suitable for small wheels. If I would to go with Alivio or Acera shifter, what are the options for RD later? Also what I've learned from previous post is shifters comes in pairs. With Alivio and Accera, what are the options for FD later? How about Sora shifters? How is it compared to Alivio and Acera? And Sora RD? Seems to be able to take my current 32T cassette. This post has been edited by whateva2k: Jan 24 2015, 10:53 AM |
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Jan 25 2015, 02:16 AM
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Thanks guys for your advice and sharing of your experience. I'm slowly getting the picture now.
I would prefer a short cage RD and realise I don't mind loosing 32T sprocket if I have second chainring. |
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Sep 4 2015, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(D3vilsim @ Sep 4 2015, 10:53 AM) Thanks PaulKong brother for sharing the knowledge. I went with Vigor because:I most probably will go for Dahon. But up to this point i still can't decide to get Vigor or MU D8 or Speed D8. Price around the same. Was shortlisted Vigor & MU but saw many rider here own Speed and give very good comments on Speed. So ................................. Pening hhahahahhaa 1. First I ruled out Speed as I don't want to worry about rust, and don't mind the little hasher ride of aluminium body of Vigor/Mu. 2. Second, between Vigor and Mu, I prefer Vigor's design, and also it has chainstay with benefits mentioned by ettige and azamunekurone. So.................................. Simple |
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QUOTE(D3vilsim @ Sep 4 2015, 11:58 AM) Thanks whateva2k ... !! Thanks !!!! I suggest you get the bike first and start riding. Slowly you will know what you want to upgrade.What is the 1st change/mod to make Vigor a better bike ? Should i go for lighter seatpost & comfort saddle 1st ?? or add crank / upgrade FD ? Or ??? In order to understand and communicate with you all here. I need this dictionary ![]() My first 2-3 rides, my butt aches. I have not been riding bicycle for many years before that. Because of that, I was planning to change the saddle. After weekly rides for about 1-2 months, the stock saddle doesn't bother me at all now. Its comfortable enough for me now. So I didn't change. Another thing that bothers me at first is the Neos twist shifter. So I decided to change it. I bought the shifter, but no time to change until now. haha... By now I've learned to adapt to it so its not as annoying as before. I will change it soon.... So basically I've not change anything. But I've added speed and cadence sensor, bottle cage, front and rear LED light, side mirror, saddle bag, and a bell |
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QUOTE(desastar @ Sep 4 2015, 12:51 PM) Haha...not true la.For me as I start riding, I will find new needs and will make purchases accordingly. But, before getting the bike, I had all sorts of plans to change this and that. After getting the bike and riding it, you will know whether you need this and that for your riding. Everyone rides differently. |
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