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foogie
post Jan 5 2015, 06:34 PM

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Hey guys, am thinking to jump into the folding bike scene. Was thinking of touring with my regular sized bike, but decided that foldies will be easier to transport, etc.

My budget is around 2.3K or below, and I came across this bike:
Tern Link D16 , priced at 2.3K exactly. Can't find many reviews online. Was drawn in by the Tiagra RD, but I heard that having regular road RD for foldies is not a good idea? As in I might hit it out of alignment? Is that really a big issue though (never traveled with a packed foldie before so I wont know)?

Which brings me to the next question: how many gears is enough to achieve regular touring speed, and to go on an uphill without getting off the bike? Will either the Dahon Speed P8, Vitesse, or the Tern Link D8 be enough? What would be your recommendation for my budget range? (preferably below, so that I can spend on other accessories).

Thanks in advance!!
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post Jan 5 2015, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 07:14 PM)
Many foldies uses road bike rear derailleurs. I am just suprised that someone said that it might hit out of alignment shocking.gif  All RDs will go out of alignment sooner or later. The chain might elongate, the hanger might bend, the cables have stretched, so many reasons. That's why one should learn to adjust the RDs. Or send to a bike shop to adjust. Probably Brompton owners said that statement, because Bromptons use Sturmey Archer internal hub gear (which off course don't run out of alignment  tongue.gif  )which I find bothersome as it uses no quick release. You have to carry a 15mm spanner on your rides as you need it if there's a puncture.  tongue.gif
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Haha, thanks mate. That is really good to know. But what do you think, is the Tern Link D16 worth the money, or should I look at another bike for touring? I was hoping to get chromoly or steel frames, but can't seem to find one around that price range with a good gear range. Or is 16 speeds completely pointless for touring and I should just get a Dahon Speed P8 or a Tern Link D8?

Thanks!
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post Jan 5 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 5 2015, 09:06 PM)
If chromoly is needed , which is more comfortable to ride anyway, just go for the Dahon Speed P8. First of all, the frame is really proven.  Second, it is within your price range, Third , it is really comfortable to ride. I think you should be able to get it for less than 2K from Kimbell Jaya. Add a 39 chainring, an FD and adapter plus a Microshift 8 speed shifter pair. another cable and housing, kautim! Same, same , 16 speed also. Lagi syiok, get the SRAM X5 shifters set, 10 speed cassette and make it 20 speed. The new Speeds are now shodded with SRAM X7 RDs.

For touring, it is good to have extra chainrings for some hilly rides.

This comment really put you in a dilemma  tongue.gif   hmm.gif
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Haha, it does, but oh man, what an idea. Thanks!

QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 5 2015, 09:17 PM)
I have a Dahon Vitesse for sale, with Shimano 105 double compact cranks and 10speed rear derailleur.  Schwalbe Durano tyres.  Under 10kgs. Hardly used since built in 2014.  Can supply parts list for this bike.
Asking RM1800.  Available end of Feb.

As for the RD, unless you mis-treat the bike, or transported the bike lying on the RD, I can't see how it can go out of alignment.  My bikes never have done it.  Derailleurs are much easier to maintain if you ask me, and I have bikes with internal hubs, like Sturmey Archer and Shimano Alfine.  Internal hubs have wider spread gears, hence can be either too high or too low sometimes, which is a nuisance.  And they are a little heavier also.

Touring speed is usually quite low, say 18-20km/h, so 8 speed will get you there if not geared too low, and if you want to be able to climb hills seated, then a second smaller chain ring would be required.  An internal hub will take you up hills so long as they are no too steep, ie. 8 or 11 speed Alfine. Even my Brompton 6 speed (with 3 speed hub) can go up pretty steep hills easily, but I won't want it to be a long continuous climb!!
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Wow, I would love to see the parts list for that bike! And your comment is so reassuring. biggrin.gif

Oh btw, where are the shops that I should check out for best deals on the foldies? Preferably those that allow me to try riding them preferably! Rodalink allowed me to try cycling on the kaki lima only sad.gif

This post has been edited by foogie: Jan 5 2015, 10:27 PM
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post Jan 11 2015, 12:47 PM

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I ended up getting the Tern Node D16. Brilliant, brilliant bike (was persuaded by Johnny from My Bicycle Shop Bandar Utama to get this over the Link D16, which is exactly the same price). You can really feel the difference with the 24" wheels. The ride feels like a full sized bike, and it's so easy to get uphill with this thing (thanks to the gear ratio). Just tested it in Putrajaya today. The thing can really go very fast, almost as fast as a roadbike (in terms of top speed), and the acceleration is something I'm very surprised with. Only problem I have with it is the lousy magnets to secure the bike while folded (seems like a common problem with Tern). Always get disengaged if you drag the bike along the floor (in folded mode)




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post Jan 11 2015, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 11 2015, 01:51 PM)
Only problem with the 24" is the lack of tyre choices, and of course the larger fold. But as you say, it should feel more stable.
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Yup, oh well. A price to pay for the ride quality i guess.
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post Jan 12 2015, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Jan 12 2015, 01:02 AM)
How much?
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Around 2.1K++ smile.gif . Best deal I can get
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post May 20 2015, 08:33 AM

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Im wondering if im the only one having this problem. My tern node's seatpost doesnt allow me to adjust the saddle tilt. The saddle clip/clamp thingy is rigid, so i cant adjust the angle like i can on other bikes. So fitting in a brooks saddle will give u a 2.5 degree front tilt. Any solution?

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