no heart feelings.let me know bro,if time permits,then we can ride together..

cant wait for 26th Dec round island penang.any penang foldies wanna joint?7.00am Queensbay mall

Your choice mentioned are almost all on the same specs.  Performance wise is probably similar as well. Dahon Speed P8 is reliable and an old horse. SO far no Speed users have complains, including myself. It's easy to upgrade later as well. Now with SRAM components, it's better than the Neos used last time. Probably the only needed upgrade is the shifter as Dahon propriety shifter is lousy! Anyway, it's less than 100 bucks for both left and right thumb shifters. As for Vigor and MU , these are faster models (so they say lah  ) but usually a rider is as fast as the slowest rider in a group. Hahaaa  When you ride with your kids, you have to wait for them too, right? You are not wrong either in choosing either one of the mentioned. I preferred Speed for the chromoly frame which is not as harsh when riding as the aluminium frames. That's because I sometimes ride long distance.

As for Tern models, they also have the same specs but Tern seems to be trapped in a time zone. There are no new models from them. The Link and the Verge are the only 2 frame patterns for 20 inch models. In fact, the Verge is actually the Dahon Vector and the new Dahon Vector are now the Vigor similar like frames now. The performance is almost similar to the Dahon aluminium models but it loses out in the handlebar design. That's why Dahon patented it. It's OK if you like Tern designs, but for the higher price paid for it, I see no distinct advantages over the Dahons. 

Happy Riding. Nice to see riders riding with the family. 

Dahon Speed is now known as D8 and two tone colour, a couple hundred lower than Vigor D9. both nice, SRAM outfit. look vigor D9 scores but Speed comes with twister gear, as Etigge sifu says, less than 100 to change to thumb shifter. I saw Vigor D9 with SRAM s500 derailler while speed clearly mention X7. Not familiar with this S500. are they any good as X7.

Shifters are a matter of preference.  The original are SRAM twisters but I never liked twist shifters. So I changed to thumb shifters. On doing that, I decided to go straight to 9 speed as 9 speed offers more choice of shifters. You actually can find Shimano XT or Deore 9 speed shifters if you look hard. I on the other hand found the old age LX shifters for both me and my wife's Boardwalk. Although not really important, all shifters works just fine, indexing is good but the ease of shifting is important to us. We like to do Genting Peras as the place is nearby our house, so shifting easily and also triple chainrings are important to us too. Though we don't use the granny anymore like before. But it is good to have, in times when we are too tired and want to cruise more leisurely, like riding and resting at the same time. To be fair, you need to know, what terrain and what kinds of rides are you planning to ride on.

It also approve my decision as on one of my group rides, there was another rider who blistered her palm trying to shift up and down with the twist shifters. It was not the shifters but a slightly jammed cables. It was not moving very well, maybe some signs of rust in the cable and housing. Another weakness of twist shifters (grip shift) is you tend to over shift. New users will know this. Microshift still has 8 speed shifters , so does Shimano. The SRAM X5 shifters are 10 speed nowadays. 

The wait and search is over.... finally got myself the 2015 dahon speed today. what sifu etigge says its true, this steel bike is great in handling. very sturdy.

What I dun like or now checking with dahon forum is the fender has steel/alu spoke to hold the fender is suppose to be bent ? it looks like they created to make the fender hold firmly but I notice other shop they do not bent quite nicely as mine cost one is forcing the steel to bent in order to install the fender.

Rest of it have no complain. great bike.

Thanks Etigge for the recommendation. upgrade need to come later liao.... have commitment on my other bikes upgrade.

since my sister already take my dahon vybe,i had no bike for touring.so i decided to bought 2nd speed p8 2013 model.as you all know,the speed p8 2013 comes with lousy component compare to previous version.i dont mind it either coz i've plan to adopt shimano ultegra groupset to it..

and here it is


using avid brake liver,new grips and shimano deore 10speed shifter combine with shimano ultegra cranks and rd with tiagra 12-30 casette and claris fd i manage to get this new setup!all racks and accessories from my vybe transfer to my speed

and my next project is to make my dopper a roadbike instead

still scouting for a road fork, and wheelset (those wheelset in the pix are not mine) and planning to put my shimano 105 groupset to it.and hey,its still a folding bike!

Hi,

Intended to buy Hummer 26" folding bike. Any good shop to recommend?
Just curious, is the bike can use for offroad? Anyone tried it before?

Sifus,is this light sufficient for normal road during night?
www.usjcycles.com/cateye-hl-el135