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Won't say there is much progress after few weeks but oh well, sucking it up and gonna lift more soon
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currently i do lots of heavy weight lifthing, for cutting i need to do drop sets or giant set, but now i been doing drop sets, example:-
if i do chest dumbell press 26kg x 12 then i drop 14kg x 12 28kg x 12 then i drop 14kg x 12 30kg x 12 then i drop 14kg x 12 Izzit ok for cutting...or i should go for lighter weight??? |
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Apr 23 2013, 02:38 AM) currently i do lots of heavy weight lifthing, for cutting i need to do drop sets or giant set, but now i been doing drop sets, example:- Cutting has got nothing to do with the poundages you use. Always aim to be lifting heavier.if i do chest dumbell press 26kg x 12 then i drop 14kg x 12 28kg x 12 then i drop 14kg x 12 30kg x 12 then i drop 14kg x 12 Izzit ok for cutting...or i should go for lighter weight??? |
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I can't lift those heavy weights at all, too heavy, I could only lift 10kg dumbbell...
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QUOTE(SnailWithFingers @ Apr 24 2013, 01:06 AM) bro u surely can,go slowly step by step,increase the weight slowly when u feel u are ready,last time i was always saying "cannot one la,so heavy" i may be small in size,but i keep myself motivated to push even harder and more... don't limit yourself,let your body limits you.. Happy lifting!! have a great day ahead! |
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 23 2013, 10:46 PM) i tot lifthing heavy will only make the mucle big, but if take light weight with hi raps for cutting....so if i maintain do heavy lifthing and continue dieting that consider goof enuf for cutting? |
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Apr 25 2013, 08:49 AM) i tot lifthing heavy will only make the mucle big, but if take light weight with hi raps for cutting....so if i maintain do heavy lifthing and continue dieting that consider goof enuf for cutting? Cutting is all about diet. Ive followed the same routine ie low reps high poundage both on xutting and bulking phases.Just tweak your diet. You dont even have to cardio to cut |
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huh? only lifting very heavy weights will increase muscle? how about using the machines
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QUOTE(SnailWithFingers @ Apr 25 2013, 03:22 PM) not really need to lift very heavy in order to build muscle, google about hypertrophybut please la dont use those weights that after a few set and you still not even sweating |
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Apr 25 2013, 03:26 PM) not really need to lift very heavy in order to build muscle, google about hypertrophy after a few set, i feel my muscle is empty but please la dont use those weights that after a few set and you still not even sweating my chest also, when i use the machines i usually do cardio for 15 minutes then proceed to play the machines and lift dumbbell(10kg haha) |
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my first time sharing progress pic
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Apr 25 2013, 03:26 PM) not really need to lift very heavy in order to build muscle, google about hypertrophy nopebut please la dont use those weights that after a few set and you still not even sweating http://www.builtlean.com/2012/07/19/high-reps-vs-low-reps/ |
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Apr 26 2013, 11:14 AM) i know about this reps thingbut its correct in order to build muscle you doesnt even need to train near your 1rm |
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QUOTE(jackwylde @ May 4 2013, 07:31 PM) what is your goal exactly? i watched you uploaded pics like everyday and each one of them pretty much the same? Because whenever I have significant progress, something bad happened and forced me to reboot (2 broken bones and 3 surgeries so far, will have another 1 later this year.)are u maintaining? cutting? bulking? not hating. just curious. Anyway, I'm maintaining my mass while lean bulking. Don't want to dirty bulk then cut, because I hate doing cardio. Lean bulking is slow and might look the same but if you were to compare year by year you can see there is progress. However since 2010 nothing much differs due to the 'reboot' I mentioned. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by emino: May 4 2013, 07:48 PM |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 4 2013, 07:41 PM) Because whenever I have significant progress, something bad happened and forced me to reboot (2 broken bones and 3 surgeries so far, will have another 1 later this year.) I admire your dedication and patience Emino, despite all the bad things happening to you. Been sharing your progress pictures with a few of my underweight friends to encourage them that they can do it too! Stay fit, stay big!Anyway, I'm maintaining my mass while lean bulking. Don't want to dirty bulk then cut, because I hate doing cardio. Lean bulking is slow and might look the same but if you were to compare year by year you can see there is progress. However since 2010 nothing much differs due to the 'reboot' I mentioned. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Cheers! |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 24 2013, 05:12 PM) http://data.whicdn.com/images/26748526/viz...tless_thumb.jpgLol. And here's a muscular Cosplay actor who is more than double your size. So time to put on some meat everywhere instead of looking like just a stick figure with abs which disappears when he turns sideways. This post has been edited by darklight79: May 25 2013, 04:28 AM |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 25 2013, 04:28 AM) http://data.whicdn.com/images/26748526/viz...tless_thumb.jpg While he looks good, his character supposed to be more of my size. I think even skinnier. Lol. And here's a muscular Cosplay actor who is more than double your size. So time to put on some meat everywhere instead of looking like just a stick figure with abs which disappears when he turns sideways. QUOTE ![]() If I am cosplaying something like this character then baru needs his size. But most japanese heroes are my size. QUOTE ![]() Don't be hard on me la bos. I'm trying my best. It is just hard for me to gain. Nak gain 5 kg pun susah. Current figure is good for now since gets hired to play Spiderman for events. If I am bigger than now they usually go for other people. Hilang side income! This post has been edited by emino: May 25 2013, 07:00 AM |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 06:47 AM) While he looks good, his character supposed to be more of my size. I think even skinnier. Bro. What size you have to be in cosplay is your choice. Imo I think if you got bigger you won't run out of choices for cosplay characters. Would look more impressive to boot. If I am cosplaying something like this character then baru needs his size. But most japanese heroes are my size. Don't be hard on me la bos. I'm trying my best. It is just hard for me to gain. Nak gain 5 kg pun susah. Current figure is good for now since gets hired to play Spiderman for events. If I am bigger than now they usually go for other people. Hilang side income! You're not cosplaying for the money right? Ultimately is your choice but please get your goals in order. Do you want to maintain this size because you wanna cosplay or you wanna get bigger? Which is a priority? |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 25 2013, 08:52 AM) Bro. What size you have to be in cosplay is your choice. Imo I think if you got bigger you won't run out of choices for cosplay characters. Would look more impressive to boot. Both actually. I started to gym to cosplay characters that I wanted, which most have that beach boy bodytype which DL tak suka. So yeah, need to balance both.You're not cosplaying for the money right? Ultimately is your choice but please get your goals in order. Do you want to maintain this size because you wanna cosplay or you wanna get bigger? Which is a priority? Not cosplaying for money, however, the money are still welcomed to get more costumes or upgrade current ones and maintenance of gym supplies (whey). Both are expensive hobbies lol. This post has been edited by emino: May 25 2013, 09:27 AM |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 09:24 AM) Both actually. I started to gym to cosplay characters that I wanted, which most have that beach boy bodytype which DL tak suka. So yeah, need to balance both. Then it's pretty clear you're happy with your current physique. It's your body so you don't have to listen to anyone else.Not cosplaying for money, however, the money are still welcomed to get more costumes or upgrade current ones and maintenance of gym supplies (whey). Both are expensive hobbies lol. |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 25 2013, 09:35 AM) Then it's pretty clear you're happy with your current physique. It's your body so you don't have to listen to anyone else. In fact, I think I am. Just I would like to gain more about 5-10 kg to reach the most ideal look for me.I hang with a lot of crowd from geeks and nerds to the most hardcore sports people and most of them agree I look pretty good already. Only around gym goers and body builders they would say I am too skinny. Advices by you guys are always welcomed though. But sometimes, you guys seems to put a lot of expectation on me, which makes it hard on me. But I know all of you guys have good intentions! |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 09:40 AM) In fact, I think I am. Just I would like to gain more about 5-10 kg to reach the most ideal look for me. What expectations? You post pics in this thread so you're bound to have comments. You can't expect all to be good comments no? You got enough compliments already from the newbies imoI hang with a lot of crowd from geeks and nerds to the most hardcore sports people and most of them agree I look pretty good already. Only around gym goers and body builders they would say I am too skinny. Advices by you guys are always welcomed though. But sometimes, you guys seems to put a lot of expectation on me, which makes it hard on me. But I know all of you guys have good intentions! |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 25 2013, 10:05 AM) What expectations? You post pics in this thread so you're bound to have comments. You can't expect all to be good comments no? You got enough compliments already from the newbies imo Ok lah. If you guys are now saying 'grow big or go home' then I guess I should not post here anymore since I don't want to grow a lot more bigger than I am now and keep having to justify that decision. Thanks to all the sify for all the advices all this time. You've been a great help. |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 10:23 AM) Ok lah. If you guys are now saying 'grow big or go home' then I guess I should not post here anymore since I don't want to grow a lot more bigger than I am now and keep having to justify that decision. =.=Thanks to all the sify for all the advices all this time. You've been a great help. DUDE. chill. you know how it is with the regs here. |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 10:23 AM) Ok lah. If you guys are now saying 'grow big or go home' then I guess I should not post here anymore since I don't want to grow a lot more bigger than I am now and keep having to justify that decision. bro mikehuan cakap betulThanks to all the sify for all the advices all this time. You've been a great help. if u go to 9gag, they post things about bloggers and fb'ers and instagrammers etc who hate ppl comenting on their truckload of uploaded images u post'em gotta expect comments bad or good anyway, u shudnt be heartbroken nor slighted this thread is called progress thread for a reason - to show progress not to show daily or weekly pics but progress even progress lifting vids if you wish to stay at ur size, then perhaps what u have posted til of late is enough i guess no one is ousting you i dont post here cuz im not making a lot of progress thoiugh...long term injury in the cuffs is preventing me from delts and chest workouts btw darklite im working out with edmond lew sern ying now (2011 junior mr. selangor) he says ur ripe for competition |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 25 2013, 12:40 PM) bro mikehuan cakap betul Send my warmest regards to Edmond. Tell him not this year. I might consider next year but I dunno. He's a super nice guy.if u go to 9gag, they post things about bloggers and fb'ers and instagrammers etc who hate ppl comenting on their truckload of uploaded images u post'em gotta expect comments bad or good anyway, u shudnt be heartbroken nor slighted this thread is called progress thread for a reason - to show progress not to show daily or weekly pics but progress even progress lifting vids if you wish to stay at ur size, then perhaps what u have posted til of late is enough i guess no one is ousting you i dont post here cuz im not making a lot of progress thoiugh...long term injury in the cuffs is preventing me from delts and chest workouts btw darklite im working out with edmond lew sern ying now (2011 junior mr. selangor) he says ur ripe for competition |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 09:40 AM) In fact, I think I am. Just I would like to gain more about 5-10 kg to reach the most ideal look for me. Let me put it this way bro. You don't even have beachboy muscles. You just look like someone who just does sit ups and push ups. Lol. I speak the truth when I say you are SKINNY! Even underwear models are bigger than you. Focus on eating well and lifting well.I hang with a lot of crowd from geeks and nerds to the most hardcore sports people and most of them agree I look pretty good already. Only around gym goers and body builders they would say I am too skinny. Advices by you guys are always welcomed though. But sometimes, you guys seems to put a lot of expectation on me, which makes it hard on me. But I know all of you guys have good intentions! |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 06:47 AM) While he looks good, his character supposed to be more of my size. I think even skinnier. what make u think that difficult to gain 5kg? can't lift heavier or diet?If I am cosplaying something like this character then baru needs his size. But most japanese heroes are my size. Don't be hard on me la bos. I'm trying my best. It is just hard for me to gain. Nak gain 5 kg pun susah. Current figure is good for now since gets hired to play Spiderman for events. If I am bigger than now they usually go for other people. Hilang side income! I am very impressed with your progress and improvement since a few years ago, i think u got mesomorph (or mixed with it) genetic just u didn't eat extra diet and exercise so it was hidden by ectomorph life-style. You could probably manage your lean muscle size easily by increase or decrease amount of your clean diet, unless you have problem with budget to be spend on food(hope no offended, we know bodybuilding is a very expensive hobby especially protein is the most expensive nutrition source for Asean) I saw some members in gym rakyat trained for 5-7 years their muscle more and more defined, but seem hardly grow bigger. I asked them don't they want to become bigger? They told me they can't afford protein supplement or extra protein foods, some even only eat 2 meals a day. Some just clean bulk once in a while for fun or competition, after 2-3 months their body back to lean/skinny again although they still train everyday, they just can't or don't want to spend money continuously on extra diets. |
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lol darklight nice cap, I got a same one too
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 21 May 2012 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 28 May 2013 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Not much progress.... after 1.5 year This post has been edited by the100308: May 28 2013, 06:11 PM |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 11:23 AM) Ok lah. If you guys are now saying 'grow big or go home' then I guess I should not post here anymore since I don't want to grow a lot more bigger than I am now and keep having to justify that decision. Bro, dont get them wrong and demotivated.Thanks to all the sify for all the advices all this time. You've been a great help. Before this, I really wanted your body figure badly (Big chest, abs and etc). As soon as I reach my personal goal, I prefer to move further than this. So yeah... They are just helping you out and not judging you, but its still up to your choice though. *No hard feeling Back to topic, here's my recent progress. August 2012 - 71KG March 2013 - 63KG May 2013 - 69KG Height - 168CM And I'm on bulking phase currently, trying to hit 75 - 78KG at least then cut again. Also, any comment is welcome. This post has been edited by reddevilchoo: May 28 2013, 08:39 PM |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 25 2013, 10:23 AM) Ok lah. If you guys are now saying 'grow big or go home' then I guess I should not post here anymore since I don't want to grow a lot more bigger than I am now and keep having to justify that decision. I think it is up to that person alone to decide where he wants to take it. Emino is not skinny nor obese, so he do not need the "motivation" to do something. People do not need to just go BIG for no reason. Sure, folks who hits the gym gets into the frenzy of going bigger and bigger, but what is the end game? If Emino is getting gigs to play Spidey (which is the most popupar marvel character of all time), and if he finds that the physique he is currently in suits him, then why not? No one is asking him to play The Hulk... No one should just blindly "go big or go home." Seriously. I'd agree if you are in the gym, "train hard or go home," but not going big.Thanks to all the sify for all the advices all this time. You've been a great help QUOTE(the100308 @ May 28 2013, 06:11 PM) Your tits definitely puffed up a bit. 1.5 years not wasted brother. Keep it up.In addition, this is my opinion based on looking at your photos, your ab region, your core definitely looks fuller. Not saying you gained fat, but looks bigger and thicker, more muscular. This is looking at your front pose/shot. Would not be able to really compare since there is no before shot from the side. So, this is just my opinion from looking at the front shot available. Opinions are not factual, I should do my disclaimer here before anyone start to take my opinions as a "matter-of-fact-statement." It is difficult for yourself to see any differences because this is just is, unless you do not look at the mirror for at least 3 months Now, what is the next step for you? Let's get motivated to do it! - |
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QUOTE(anthony2211 @ May 29 2013, 10:07 AM) Your tits definitely puffed up a bit. 1.5 years not wasted brother. Keep it up. Thanks bro for the compliment... well next step, I think I will be focusing more on compound movement.In addition, this is my opinion based on looking at your photos, your ab region, your core definitely looks fuller. Not saying you gained fat, but looks bigger and thicker, more muscular. This is looking at your front pose/shot. Would not be able to really compare since there is no before shot from the side. So, this is just my opinion from looking at the front shot available. Opinions are not factual, I should do my disclaimer here before anyone start to take my opinions as a "matter-of-fact-statement." It is difficult for yourself to see any differences because this is just is, unless you do not look at the mirror for at least 3 months Now, what is the next step for you? Let's get motivated to do it! - As usual, I started doing all isolation exercise, and quite a number of them hit plateau, and I seldom do deadlift and squad before. And now I am loving it, they are so effective, that I can easily break my even my rows, benchpresses plateau. PR for squad: 120kg x5 PR for deadlift: 130kg x3 And then, one of my friend introduce me a number of compound movement, and I find them very interesting as well. (I think that is why I got better core) Exercise like front lever, muscle up, plank pushup, human flag really do engage a lot of muscle group. So yeah, to sum up, I will keep on hitting hard in all the compound movement (if possible get minor visible striation on my quad), and able to perform all the body weight exercise very well. Target by end of august: 1) 10x Muscle Up consecutively 2) at least able to hold full front lever for 5 seconds 3) at least able to perform one human flag 4) at least able to hold my planck with my leg straight 5) squad at least 140kg x5 5) deadlift at least 140kg x5 This post has been edited by the100308: May 29 2013, 11:32 AM |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 25 2013, 12:40 PM) i dont post here cuz im not making a lot of progress thoiugh...long term injury in the cuffs is preventing me from delts and chest workouts btw darklite im working out with edmond lew sern ying now (2011 junior mr. selangor) he says ur ripe for competition |
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i injured my shoulders quite a few times, left while doing pullups (zzz) and right while doing shoulder presses. the pain is still there, even after months. any advice for treatment. some say deep tissue massage would do the trick. medically, will scan reveal the injury? and any type of doctor i should go to? |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 29 2013, 06:50 PM) i injured my shoulders quite a few times, left while doing pullups (zzz) and right while doing shoulder presses. the pain is still there, even after months. any advice for treatment. some say deep tissue massage would do the trick. medically, will scan reveal the injury? and any type of doctor i should go to? my ortho only detect rotator cuff tear when he saw the MRI film. on the day of surgery, they used scope and discover SLAP tear also.so no, the scan itself cannot reveal all injury unless you do scope. |
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QUOTE(bata @ May 29 2013, 08:37 PM) my ortho only detect rotator cuff tear when he saw the MRI film. on the day of surgery, they used scope and discover SLAP tear also. where did u do ur MRI? how much was it?so no, the scan itself cannot reveal all injury unless you do scope. did your injury cause you immense pain, or it just bothered you? i'm trying yo avoid surgery if possible. |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 29 2013, 08:48 PM) where did u do ur MRI? how much was it? pantai Hospital BP. it supposed only RM 850, but i choose warded so can claim insurance lol did your injury cause you immense pain, or it just bothered you? i'm trying yo avoid surgery if possible. continuous pain when i training, uncomfortable when idle, until one point when i train biceps also pain, my ortho said my biceps attachment also out of place because of the tear. Mine is Type II and i have 3 anchors now. if u have continuous pain just go do MRI, it might only inflammation, if not serious can get away with cortisone or PRP i think. You can ask your ortho. Chow |
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Something more long term.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 29 2013, 06:50 PM) i injured my shoulders quite a few times, left while doing pullups (zzz) and right while doing shoulder presses. the pain is still there, even after months. any advice for treatment. some say deep tissue massage would do the trick. medically, will scan reveal the injury? and any type of doctor i should go to? You may want to visit KL Sports Medicine Center to understand your root cause. |
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QUOTE(bata @ May 31 2013, 03:43 AM) thanks bro. Marina Regatta 2017 This post has been edited by wildcat90: May 1 2017, 01:01 AM |
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QUOTE(bata @ May 30 2013, 02:14 AM) pantai Hospital BP. it supposed only RM 850, but i choose warded so can claim insurance lol I think I have shoulder problem too but not because of weight training but because of badminton(before i started BB). I have this cracking shoulder whenever I do shoulder press movement even without weights. Its not that bad but recently I feel discomfort when idle maybe because I tend to ignore the pain and continue lifting. Now I feel slight pain whenever I do pulldown or bench press which of course affecting my strength and focus.continuous pain when i training, uncomfortable when idle, until one point when i train biceps also pain, my ortho said my biceps attachment also out of place because of the tear. Mine is Type II and i have 3 anchors now. if u have continuous pain just go do MRI, it might only inflammation, if not serious can get away with cortisone or PRP i think. You can ask your ortho. Chow |
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Jun 3 2013, 08:17 PM) I think I have shoulder problem too but not because of weight training but because of badminton(before i started BB). I have this cracking shoulder whenever I do shoulder press movement even without weights. Its not that bad but recently I feel discomfort when idle maybe because I tend to ignore the pain and continue lifting. Now I feel slight pain whenever I do pulldown or bench press which of course affecting my strength and focus. Exercises to Strengthen the Rotator Cuff Muscles in the Shoulder |
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Half year stop... then another half year continue back... now still on going...
Hopefully no more stop! Lately really motivated seeing how muscular my brother-in-law has become... My latest photo (not so latest, end May'13): By the way... arm size increase by 1 inch after 6 months consider as good progress or not? of course waist size remains the same... Edit: Add one more photo as above photo the mirror really dirty... lol. Sorry for the disturbing blue underwear in the background... hahaha... This post has been edited by titan-x: Jun 9 2013, 10:35 PM |
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QUOTE(andyfriends @ Jun 10 2013, 10:57 AM) that's impressive! 18 months how long did u spend to achieve that result? great if you could put on your face pic. i am sure, you would have looked so much greater now. p/s: i am hoping that i could also shed the fat on my face slow..i eat a lot..a lot now compare to when i was 100kg++ you can;t target which part you want to loose body fat |
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Just to share.. Sorry if my body looks bad..
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http://instagram.com/p/ak36-FCBrO/ 15/6/2013 I have really small bones.. and my leg aint growing despite I do train them.. I've tried everything from 5x5, pyramid, drop etc HOW? My ankles, wrist, knees bone are real small.. How do i upload pic to the post directly? TQ |
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QUOTE(enix2000 @ Jun 17 2013, 02:43 PM) http://instagram.com/p/ak4GisCBrd/ Ankle, wrist and any joints, you can't really grow em since it is all genetics. http://instagram.com/p/ak36-FCBrO/ 15/6/2013 I have really small bones.. and my leg aint growing despite I do train them.. I've tried everything from 5x5, pyramid, drop etc HOW? My ankles, wrist, knees bone are real small.. How do i upload pic to the post directly? TQ You said that you have tried 5x5, drop sets, pyramid, bla bla bla... Have you tried eating more? |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 17 2013, 03:39 PM) Ankle, wrist and any joints, you can't really grow em since it is all genetics. Im on IF and low carb diet on non workout day. Almost 1.8k daily (deficit of 200-300)You said that you have tried 5x5, drop sets, pyramid, bla bla bla... Have you tried eating more? Still have belly fats.. Sigh.. |
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QUOTE(enix2000 @ Jun 18 2013, 10:20 AM) Im on IF and low carb diet on non workout day. Almost 1.8k daily (deficit of 200-300) Yeah like -Dan said, how can you gain muscle if you are having calorie deficit? You do know that you need calorie surplus to grow more muscle right? So what is your current priority? You can lose the belly fat or gain some muscle mass on your thigh but you can't do both or very hard to do both at the same time.Still have belly fats.. Sigh.. QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 18 2013, 12:29 PM) Mike, care to explain a bit on the body recomp? |
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My target now is to achieve a <10% bf while building muscle.
I forgot where I read this but it is possible, like mike said, it is difficult. other parts are growing just not the wheels. thats the problem |
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QUOTE(enix2000 @ Jun 18 2013, 04:40 PM) My target now is to achieve a <10% bf while building muscle. You can, if you have fine tune your diet to the T. If your diet is a so so, that wont be happening.I forgot where I read this but it is possible, like mike said, it is difficult. other parts are growing just not the wheels. thats the problem |
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Tbh I don't really understand it 100%, but it happens. IF is most probably where you read about recomps. Carb cycles too.
Basis of IF is to control your insulin spike timings. Manipulating this could do it. Hell my avatar pic was taken when I'm on IF |
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Pardon me but what's IF?
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will look that up,, btw, can this be trusted?
http://scoobysworkshop.com/expectations/ Note 6) There is a point of diminishing returns with lifting weights. At first, the strength and muscle mass gains are very rapid (the newbie effect). In each subsequent year, the gains are less and less until at some point you reach your genetic maximum and all gains cease despite intense workouts and flawless nutrition. How long it takes to reach the genetic maximum depends on many factors including genetics but most importantly on the intensity of the workout program. If someone lifts casually and does a whole body workout for 30min 3 days a week, they will never reach their genetic max. After 20 years, if they get serious about lifting, they could have a second chance at the newbie effect and spectacular gains despite their “ole” age. On the other hand if a teen starts professional powerlifting at age 16 then they might hit their genetic max very early, perhaps in as few as 6 years. very interesting in deed This post has been edited by NovusInitium: Jun 18 2013, 11:41 PM |
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QUOTE(NovusInitium @ Jun 18 2013, 11:40 PM) will look that up,, btw, can this be trusted? That would be correct. The video below also explain on how much muscle can you gain and as per Scooby highlighted, it is diminishing every year. Logically, there would be limit on how much a person can gain muscle mass or all bodybuilders would become hulk-like physique. http://scoobysworkshop.com/expectations/ Note 6) There is a point of diminishing returns with lifting weights. At first, the strength and muscle mass gains are very rapid (the newbie effect). In each subsequent year, the gains are less and less until at some point you reach your genetic maximum and all gains cease despite intense workouts and flawless nutrition. How long it takes to reach the genetic maximum depends on many factors including genetics but most importantly on the intensity of the workout program. If someone lifts casually and does a whole body workout for 30min 3 days a week, they will never reach their genetic max. After 20 years, if they get serious about lifting, they could have a second chance at the newbie effect and spectacular gains despite their “ole” age. On the other hand if a teen starts professional powerlifting at age 16 then they might hit their genetic max very early, perhaps in as few as 6 years. very interesting in deed |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Any comments/critics? How to make my chest more solid? I'm still bulking now cause my chest not so solid. This post has been edited by twhong_91: Jun 19 2013, 08:29 PM |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 19 2013, 08:50 PM) looks like u r over bulking. bf% def at the high side. i would say 18-20%. Over bulking? But my chest is still not solid or else I would have started my cutting already. My height is 172cm and my weight is 144lb. My target is to bulk to 150lb then only start cutting. Or should I cut now? Cardio while bulking?u have V shape around the waist area. that should tell u something. |
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jun 19 2013, 09:30 PM) Over bulking? But my chest is still not solid or else I would have started my cutting already. My height is 172cm and my weight is 144lb. My target is to bulk to 150lb then only start cutting. Or should I cut now? Cardio while bulking? would love to know ur current bulk diet. |
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Main meals: 70% lean meat + 30% rice and vege(carrot, parsley, spinach,pumpkin). will cook this in bulk and freeze. raw veges/fruits as snack between meals. and egg whites should i not get enough protein. food should last about a week (is eating in this manner good?)
3 meals a day *on workout days + 1 meal? Pre - workout meal (1 hour before) : Will a portion of the food mentioned above suffice? + vit c (half and the other half before bed) Post - workout meal : 250ml Soy milk w/o sugar + 1 banana BMR 1606.62 (http://www.calculatorpro.com/calculator/katch-mcardle-bmr-calculator/) BF 24.67% (http://www.bmi-calculator.net/body-fat-calculator/) TDEE 2202 (http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/) Will eat 20% under TDEE. that's my current physique, i know it's bad. Adopting stronglifts 5x5 - MWF 10-15 mins HIIT - Tuesday and Thursdays Weekends off. Please do comment This post has been edited by NovusInitium: Jun 19 2013, 10:48 PM |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 19 2013, 10:08 PM) My current bulk diet meal 1: 5 teaspoons of oats, coffee, 1 scoop of protein shake post work work: 2 scoops of whey protein meal 2: big bowl of rice, chicken breast, vege meal 3: big bowl of rice, chicken breast or fish, vege meal 4: small bowl of rice, chicken or fish, vege meal 5: 2 eggs plus half scoop of whey |
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jun 19 2013, 11:23 PM) My current bulk diet have you been gaining with this diet?meal 1: 5 teaspoons of oats, coffee, 1 scoop of protein shake post work work: 2 scoops of whey protein meal 2: big bowl of rice, chicken breast, vege meal 3: big bowl of rice, chicken breast or fish, vege meal 4: small bowl of rice, chicken or fish, vege meal 5: 2 eggs plus half scoop of whey do you think your body fat has increased/decreased with this diet asking since I don't have your before pic. |
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Janson, please comment on my post.
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jun 20 2013, 10:15 AM) see, i cant judge much with your info, whether you have lost much fat from the beginning.but i guess u have gained muscles, which is good. whether u have gained/lost fat, you are the better judge since u know your before figure and now. but what i'm sure is you still have high bf% and you might face a situation where you reach your targeted weight but still your chest sucks. so how? get even heavier? and then even heavier? some ppl are very sensitive to simple carb and can gain fat easily from that. you are probably one of them. always tweak your diet to see what suits you best. just because you are bulking, doesnt mean you can eat rice like no business. you also dont seem to have any healthy fat in your diet as well. have a good ratio of carb:protein:fat. |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 20 2013, 01:08 PM) see, i cant judge much with your info, whether you have lost much fat from the beginning. I see. I think my bf percentage is still the same when i see myself in the mirror. You're saying that I can maintain a low level of bf % even when i am bulking? Can you give me some examples of healthy fat? I forgot to include that I take 2 capsules of fish oil, 1 in the morning and another one 30mins before bed.but i guess u have gained muscles, which is good. whether u have gained/lost fat, you are the better judge since u know your before figure and now. but what i'm sure is you still have high bf% and you might face a situation where you reach your targeted weight but still your chest sucks. so how? get even heavier? and then even heavier? some ppl are very sensitive to simple carb and can gain fat easily from that. you are probably one of them. always tweak your diet to see what suits you best. just because you are bulking, doesnt mean you can eat rice like no business. you also dont seem to have any healthy fat in your diet as well. have a good ratio of carb:protein:fat. |
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QUOTE(justaregularjoe @ Jun 20 2013, 09:56 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « takes 2 years, from 13% to 17% bodyfat lol.. |
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QUOTE(reddevilchoo @ Jun 20 2013, 11:32 PM) QUOTE(marczeman2 @ Jun 20 2013, 11:42 PM) QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 21 2013, 12:18 AM) How can you measure your muscle improvement if you have the before pic with shirts and the after is without shirts? will upload a better picture next time, quite frustrating i dont have much old pic without shirt on.. i will calculate my new muscle mass if my gym allow me to so that i can compare it with my old one . |
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Hi guys below are my progress.
comments please btw i have scoliosis, so my right side back is larger than my left. sept 2009 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 2013 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Jun 23 2013, 01:40 PM) Hi guys below are my progress. BF on a high side brocomments please btw i have scoliosis, so my right side back is larger than my left. sept 2009 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 2013 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « time to revamp your diet |
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Jun 26 2013, 08:28 AM) im taking in quite clean ady. less fat and salt and such.i have not eaten any fast food or friend food the the past few months already. i calculated my daily caloric intake also like insufficient to gain weight. i also duno how i gained fat.....dem.....nutrition is the hardest part here |
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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Jun 26 2013, 08:39 AM) im taking in quite clean ady. less fat and salt and such. There is a different between clean diet and clean bulk. i have not eaten any fast food or friend food the the past few months already. i calculated my daily caloric intake also like insufficient to gain weight. i also duno how i gained fat.....dem.....nutrition is the hardest part here Clean diet is diet of healthy food such as chicken breast, no fast food etc and the opposite is dirty diet where fast food is one of the menu. This kind of diet will not determine whether you'll gain more fat than the other. On the other hand, there is clean bulk and dirty bulk. Clean bulk is taking low amount of calorie surplus, usually 10% -20% of maintenance calorie. For dirty bulk, you eat a lot of calorie surplus. I leave the rest for you to figure out |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:11 PM) There is a different between clean diet and clean bulk. According to scoobyworkshop calculator. I need 2218 cals to have a clean bulkClean diet is diet of healthy food such as chicken breast, no fast food etc and the opposite is dirty diet where fast food is one of the menu. This kind of diet will not determine whether you'll gain more fat than the other. On the other hand, there is clean bulk and dirty bulk. Clean bulk is taking low amount of calorie surplus, usually 10% -20% of maintenance calorie. For dirty bulk, you eat a lot of calorie surplus. I leave the rest for you to figure out I calculated before, I dont think my diet touches the value above. But im gaining fat.....Sigh.....what can I do? I'm thinking of switching back to mass gainers(anabolic peak) instead of whey to hit my caloric goal. My meals revolve around below. Breakfast 1 cup milo with oats multivitamins, 1g Vit c, and 500mg Vit E reach office 2 scoop met-rx natural whey, 260 cals,46g protein 1 apple 1 medium sized tomato lunch 1 slice pan fry sting ray 1.2xcup white rice vege or pan mee noodles large or any noodles(large) or chicken rice breast add small rice and extra chicken or mixed rice with lots meat and vege tea time 120g steamed chicken breast 1 medium tomato dinner 1 cup white+brown rice 280g steamed chicken breast vege or anything revolves around that 1-2 hrs before sleep 1 cup of anlene milk with oats |
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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Jun 26 2013, 12:35 PM) According to scoobyworkshop calculator. I need 2218 cals to have a clean bulk It's so easy. You don't even sure how much calorie is in your diet. Well, problem solved.I calculated before, I dont think my diet touches the value above. But im gaining fat.....Sigh.....what can I do? I'm thinking of switching back to mass gainers(anabolic peak) instead of whey to hit my caloric goal. My meals revolve around below. Breakfast 1 cup milo with oats multivitamins, 1g Vit c, and 500mg Vit E reach office 2 scoop met-rx natural whey, 260 cals,46g protein 1 apple 1 medium sized tomato lunch 1 slice pan fry sting ray 1.2xcup white rice vege or pan mee noodles large or any noodles(large) or chicken rice breast add small rice and extra chicken or mixed rice with lots meat and vege tea time 120g steamed chicken breast 1 medium tomato dinner 1 cup white+brown rice 280g steamed chicken breast vege or anything revolves around that 1-2 hrs before sleep 1 cup of anlene milk with oats This post has been edited by alien9: Jun 26 2013, 12:53 PM |
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QUOTE(joe1aaa @ Jun 26 2013, 11:57 PM) That explains. I train there too. I Remember seeing you doing curls once next to me, I was mirin your huge arms. Hehehehe next time u see me pls kacau me ya...looking at ur journal u did very good job bulking...its hard to recall ur face btw ^ ^Keep up the cutting, you'll look super good with a lean body with that SIZE. |
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QUOTE(chayjeong @ Jun 28 2013, 11:59 PM) Before and After! IIRC, that is 4 months of progress no coz I remember you've posted your skinny pic before; or much shorter than 4 months Comments and critique please, I know my body fat is very high, gonna start cutting soon. Anyway, that is a noticeable progress but comparing 2nd and 3rd pic, your traps didn't have any improvement and do post some back pic if you can |
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QUOTE(chayjeong @ Jun 28 2013, 11:59 PM) Before and After! i'm not sure your bf% is tat high to consider cutting. you might end up being back to your 1st pic. as long as your lifting poundages are improving i suggest you continue what you are doing.Comments and critique please, I know my body fat is very high, gonna start cutting soon. |
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i feel tat i am,fat :-( btw second and third pic are the same haa thanks for the reply
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QUOTE(Damien?(: @ Jun 30 2013, 04:33 PM) recently got myself into bb, 2-3months progress, turning 18 this year btw Awesome lats and congrats on cutting phase.April 2013 ![]() June 2013 ![]() ![]() Uploaded with ImageShack.us my arms are really really small.. |
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QUOTE(Damien?(: @ Jun 30 2013, 03:33 PM) recently got myself into bb, 2-3months progress, turning 18 this year btw Bro were you on a cutting diet or you were maintaining the same diet but just started lifting for 2 months?April 2013 ![]() June 2013 ![]() ![]() Uploaded with ImageShack.us my arms are really really small.. |
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Youve done very well damien. Keep it up! You're in the right track
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QUOTE(chayjeong @ Jun 28 2013, 11:59 PM) Before and After! Still skinny.Comments and critique please, I know my body fat is very high, gonna start cutting soon. Plz eat moar. Plz no cutting. If you want nice arms, then plz no cutting till you can curl the 90s or 100lb barbell unassisted (means no spotting on first few reps). Cutting is quick. Building is slow. |
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QUOTE(joeblows @ Jul 1 2013, 11:36 AM) Still skinny. okay iwill eat more and dont cut. Was wondering why my chest wont growPlz eat moar. Plz no cutting. If you want nice arms, then plz no cutting till you can curl the 90s or 100lb barbell unassisted (means no spotting on first few reps). Cutting is quick. Building is slow. |
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Thanks guys, the compliments are very very motivating.
@gamerfr3ak i went from eating really shit to a clean diet, allowing cheat days on saturdays/sundays as my family won't cook on the weekends. i try to down 4-5meals a day, usually heavy breakfast. 2shakes a day, first month was using muscletech, now on ON gold whey and dymatize's creatine. |
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QUOTE(Damien?(: @ Jul 1 2013, 01:11 PM) Thanks guys, the compliments are very very motivating. Would you mind sharing your program/routine and your height & weight? Also your maintenance calories intake. Thanks@gamerfr3ak i went from eating really shit to a clean diet, allowing cheat days on saturdays/sundays as my family won't cook on the weekends. i try to down 4-5meals a day, usually heavy breakfast. 2shakes a day, first month was using muscletech, now on ON gold whey and dymatize's creatine. |
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Jul 1 2013, 02:03 PM) Would you mind sharing your program/routine and your height & weight? Also your maintenance calories intake. Thanks I'm a short guy, only around 170-172 cm, didnt measure recently sorry, haha. Currently weighing in at 70kgs. I dont have a definite programme which I follow to, I just workout 6days a week, sometimes twice a day if i feel energetic. Cardio only when friends ask to play football/futsal/go running. I alternate body parts training days every week. Let's say I train chest on monday this week, I would train on other days the following, try to give my body a shock, and sometimes i train one body part twice a week, alternating them too. As for calories intake, I used to count them with MyFitnessPal app on my phone, I gave up as I was too lazy |
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QUOTE(emino @ May 4 2013, 02:41 PM) Because whenever I have significant progress, something bad happened and forced me to reboot (2 broken bones and 3 surgeries so far, will have another 1 later this year.) I like your 2010 body the best. just saying. Anyway, I'm maintaining my mass while lean bulking. Don't want to dirty bulk then cut, because I hate doing cardio. Lean bulking is slow and might look the same but if you were to compare year by year you can see there is progress. However since 2010 nothing much differs due to the 'reboot' I mentioned. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(Damien?(: @ Jul 1 2013, 03:10 PM) I'm a short guy, only around 170-172 cm, didnt measure recently sorry, haha. Currently weighing in at 70kgs. Penang Kia, Lu Ho Liow.. Well done! You eat and train smart. Keep doing the right thing and train smartly, in no time you are someone to beat. I dont have a definite programme which I follow to, I just workout 6days a week, sometimes twice a day if i feel energetic. Cardio only when friends ask to play football/futsal/go running. I alternate body parts training days every week. Let's say I train chest on monday this week, I would train on other days the following, try to give my body a shock, and sometimes i train one body part twice a week, alternating them too. As for calories intake, I used to count them with MyFitnessPal app on my phone, I gave up as I was too lazy QUOTE(Lemon @ Jul 1 2013, 05:38 PM) A nice 14kg up, more of muscles than fats. You deserved a STAR for that hard-work you put in. Keep it up the good job. Cheers! |
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QUOTE(Damien?(: @ Jul 1 2013, 03:10 PM) I'm a short guy, only around 170-172 cm, didnt measure recently sorry, haha. Currently weighing in at 70kgs. 170-172 is not short I dont have a definite programme which I follow to, I just workout 6days a week, sometimes twice a day if i feel energetic. Cardio only when friends ask to play football/futsal/go running. I alternate body parts training days every week. Let's say I train chest on monday this week, I would train on other days the following, try to give my body a shock, and sometimes i train one body part twice a week, alternating them too. As for calories intake, I used to count them with MyFitnessPal app on my phone, I gave up as I was too lazy Might wanna jump to a different routine/program. |
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Jul 2 2013, 10:00 AM) 170-172 is not short Maybe try training one body part a day? Or mix and match if you cant hit the gym so many times a week la. Idk to me fullbodyworkout I dont get to target that one muscle group that much, I'm the type of person who would wanna feel DOMS the next day. Hehe. Just a suggestion. Might wanna jump to a different routine/program. Currently trying to bulk up but uncomfortable with the tummy |
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QUOTE(shaunhsc @ Jul 6 2013, 06:11 PM) Very nice bro. U officially shut the progress thread with ur awesome pic for the past 2 days. If u back pic is like this im sure ur front it even better. haha i was wondering why people werent commenting Unfortunately i had a nasty skin infection thing that left some ugly marks on the front. Super over-conscientious about it. Once it clears up ill post front shots |
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QUOTE(Kaffatsum @ Jul 7 2013, 10:48 PM) thxs for making me look small 67.5kg post cutting, now on the way to 72kg. Never really measure myself honestly, mirror and progress pics do so much better than the measuring tape.havent seen you post in a while. that side tricep looks pretty disgusting, what are those arms measuring now? might as well list your whole stats (weight,height,years training, etc) |
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QUOTE(jAck66 @ Jul 7 2013, 11:40 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « firstly...awesome! u doing very well took how long u transform ur body bro? care to share?.. |
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QUOTE(VaLeNrUdOn @ Jul 8 2013, 01:49 PM) no idea, def. not as lean as free_enuf. but i got visible abs, veins in forearm/bicep/shoulders. i reckon around 12-15% but someone should correct me if they think otherwise. also, lighting and camera angle plays a big role in showing a physique (althought lighting sucked when i took the pic). |
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QUOTE(bata @ Jul 11 2013, 01:52 AM) Haha bata you are just too kind to call that mass. Thats plain fat lmao. I was in denial. Telling everyone including myself that I m bulking so it's ok to not see any packs or veins. Hows progress coming along mate? |
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 13 2013, 03:55 PM) Haha bata you are just too kind to call that mass. Thats plain fat lmao. I was in denial. Telling everyone including myself that I m bulking so it's ok to not see any packs or veins. Hows progress coming along mate? i tore my rotator cuff and SLAP. did surgeries on dec last year. Apparently i i might tore it back this last weeks lifting heavy things(not in gym). I will have it check again next weekend, probably MRI |
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Wouldn't worry too much about it. Yes genetics had a hand in it.
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QUOTE(the100308 @ Jul 15 2013, 10:13 PM) Flexing never post the chest from the bottom like that every again...Dear all sifus, for my "inner" chest, am I doing something wrong or its pure genetic. I have been focusing on tempo, and squeezing my chest at the end of every pushes. good physique. inner chest is not a muscle by itself. just keep training and eating and itll fill with time |
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QUOTE(Kaffatsum @ Jul 17 2013, 09:03 AM) never post the chest from the bottom like that every again... Thanks bro... I understand that, but sometimes I can't help but think that my chest grow too prominently on the outer part. Is there any reason the picture can't be taken at that angle?good physique. inner chest is not a muscle by itself. just keep training and eating and itll fill with time |
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QUOTE(the100308 @ Jul 17 2013, 09:29 AM) Thanks bro... I understand that, but sometimes I can't help but think that my chest grow too prominently on the outer part. Is there any reason the picture can't be taken at that angle? just give it time haha i was just joking |
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Some updates on my back. Rather small if you ask me. Just posting it up for comments.
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Just gettin my lazy ass up to the gym...started back in 2009, stopped after a year and a half...
Sorry for the low quality, will try to snap more in the future...yes, lighting play a big role to determine ur real body stucture but pls excuse me this time...just to add some color in this thread...hope everybody is doin great at the gym !! ![]() thank you everyone for the inspiring progress...hope i can reach my target this time around... |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Jul 24 2013, 10:43 PM) Muahaha. Thanks man. Was with kaperskyfan yesterday working chest. I'm now 72 plus kg only, yet was benching 275lbs for reps. =P, hammer chins BW + 45kg tied to dip belt, also for reps. Strength is up, bf% is low. Expect a pic which is even more ripped than this one on Saturday or so.This post has been edited by darklight79: Jul 25 2013, 12:24 AM |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 25 2013, 12:24 AM) Muahaha. Thanks man. Was with kaperskyfan yesterday working chest. I'm now 72 plus kg only, yet was benching 275lbs for reps. =P, hammer chins BW + 45kg tied to dip belt, also for reps. Strength is up, bf% is low. Expect a pic which is even more ripped than this one on Saturday or so. fuack. 72 plus kg with this size omfg. how much quality muscle did u built |
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QUOTE(chayjeong @ Jul 25 2013, 07:40 AM) Remember there's a saying that skinny guys with abs are like fat chicks with boobs? I also say ripped guys who can't go heavy is akin to the same thing. I believe in being as ripped as possible and still being able to tear up heavy weights. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 25 2013, 12:00 PM) Remember there's a saying that skinny guys with abs are like fat chicks with boobs? I also say ripped guys who can't go heavy is akin to the same thing. I believe in being as ripped as possible and still being able to tear up heavy weights. This post has been edited by Far-KingOfSorts: Jul 25 2013, 12:15 PM |
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Taylorian too? Awesome back! How long have you been working out bro?
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QUOTE(the100308 @ Jul 31 2013, 08:58 AM) ohh, hi.. yeah taylorian... I have been working out since the gym open.. so I think its around 1.5 years. Wow, just 1.5 years? I thought it takes like at least 2-3 years to reach ur kinda body. But I also saw that u posted saying u workout 6 days/week? Til now? |
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QUOTE(deadmau5 @ Jul 31 2013, 09:10 AM) Wow, just 1.5 years? I thought it takes like at least 2-3 years to reach ur kinda body. But I also saw that u posted saying u workout 6 days/week? Til now? well.. before this, I did some pushup at home and occasionally hit the gym when there is one. So it's more like casual playing around. Yes, up until now, its more like to be 6 or 5 days a week. I am not sifus, but from my experience, doing all the basic heavy compound movement (deadlift, squat) and eat relatively clean (for me, just no fried food), allow me to improve quite a bit within 7-8 months.. |
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QUOTE(the100308 @ Jul 31 2013, 09:15 AM) well.. before this, I did some pushup at home and occasionally hit the gym when there is one. So it's more like casual playing around. Yes, up until now, its more like to be 6 or 5 days a week. Thanks for the tips, just one last question, how often u do cardio, if any at all? Coz before this I was doing like 2-3 days of 45min runs, with 2-3 days of weights in between, and during that time I couldn't see much improvement tbhI am not sifus, but from my experience, doing all the basic heavy compound movement (deadlift, squat) and eat relatively clean (for me, just no fried food), allow me to improve quite a bit within 7-8 months.. |
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QUOTE(deadmau5 @ Jul 31 2013, 09:17 PM) Thanks for the tips, just one last question, how often u do cardio, if any at all? Coz before this I was doing like 2-3 days of 45min runs, with 2-3 days of weights in between, and during that time I couldn't see much improvement tbh Last time yes. Now, seldom. I prefer heavy compound movement to burn all the calories. Normally during rest day I would do some jogging or swimming, 20min to 30min, and maybe some yoga movement, so that's about it.From my experience, as long as you eat good and clean, stay focus on ur weight training, throw in some short cardio in the morning if you want, should be good to go. My way of doing it is not doing cardio and weight and the same period of time. I would do cardio 1st thing in the morning. Rest, take a nap. Weight training at night. |
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Currently 71.9kg. Total 6kg loss. Lifts still going up.
Military press 75kg Failed deadlift attempt at 485lbs. ALMOST locked out. Zzzz.... Aiming to hit back old PR of 525lbs achieved years ago. This was attempted after:- 225lbs x 5 335lbs x 5 405lbs x 5 445lbs x 2 455lbs x 1 465lbs x 1 This post has been edited by darklight79: Aug 2 2013, 09:44 AM |
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Aug 2 2013, 08:23 PM) just RDL 52 today, mirin you even more nao. no homo.. I had 2 lower back surgeries from an accident and fractured 2 wrists from a.rollerblading incident. But i have deadlifted raw 525lbs. So i need a belt and straps. I have never done military presses before. This is my 4th session so i don't know if my back will arch or not. But I'm not willing to take the risk.that shoulder press, would you arch your back that much without the belt? |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 2 2013, 10:58 PM) I had 2 lower back surgeries from an accident and fractured 2 wrists from a.rollerblading incident. But i have deadlifted raw 525lbs. So i need a belt and straps. I have never done military presses before. This is my 4th session so i don't know if my back will arch or not. But I'm not willing to take the risk. Play safe bro. |
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QUOTE(gingerman2408 @ Aug 3 2013, 12:02 AM) "Failed" PR attempt. QUOTE(kubuk @ Aug 3 2013, 07:32 AM) Still pissed. I know i could have gotten it.Too many warm up sets. Meh... next attempt i guess.QUOTE(the100308 @ Aug 4 2013, 07:37 AM) 2nd to that... furthermore its just an attempt for PR.. but those are heavy... gambate Darklight, deadlifting 500+lbs back with 70kg bodyweight is insane!!! Thanks. Insanity is my middle name. |
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ok...i really 'no face' post out my pic after 2nd routine work out after seeing you guys progress xDDD but i guess i will post up after 8-10th routine xDDD
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 2 2013, 09:40 AM) Currently 71.9kg. Total 6kg loss. Lifts still going up. you are the last person i wan to mess with Military press 75kg Failed deadlift attempt at 485lbs. ALMOST locked out. Zzzz.... Aiming to hit back old PR of 525lbs achieved years ago. This was attempted after:- 225lbs x 5 335lbs x 5 405lbs x 5 445lbs x 2 455lbs x 1 465lbs x 1 goodjob man |
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QUOTE(deadmau5 @ Aug 7 2013, 01:05 AM) Is that what they call a sumo deadlift? I've never tried pulling with my arms inside of the hips coz it kinda feels that I'll snap my back anytime lol Yes that would be a sumo deadlift. If you are accustomed to conventional deadlift, you'll find that sumo deadlift is very awkward for you (me too). Nevertheless, doing sumo cut your ROM greatly which is very beneficial. |
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QUOTE(94brian @ Aug 16 2013, 10:08 PM) haha! right! i always tell my skinny friend that... Post your photo and then we can judge you how about me? im 75kg with 165cm tall...you can imagine my fatness xD should i eat big too? i meant,less rice,more vege and meat right? Focus on your micro. As for me, I eat whatever I want and still can lose fats easily. Hahaha. |
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QUOTE(fas29 @ Aug 17 2013, 04:48 AM) Post your photo and then we can judge you alrighty xD Focus on your micro. As for me, I eat whatever I want and still can lose fats easily. Hahaha. but not for me here you go! picture is slightly thinner than what i am now...hehe and by the way i actually have a fatty tummy that cant see in these photo » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by 94brian: Aug 17 2013, 04:54 AM |
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From 127KG -----> 107Kg ------> ???
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Sep 24 2013, 11:21 PM) Thank bro! QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Sep 25 2013, 02:46 AM) wide I constantly changing my routine every week. But usually I start with wide pull up 3x10 then barbell row (underhand this week, overhand next week) 4x12,10,8,6 then wide pull down 3x10 or 3x12,10,8 then seated cable row or One-Arm Dumbbell Row 3x10 or 3x12,10,8 and lastly, deadlift (depending on my mood lol) |
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QUOTE(fas29 @ Sep 25 2013, 04:12 AM) Thank bro! 12, 10, 8, etc. do you go increasingly heavier or same weight?wide I constantly changing my routine every week. But usually I start with wide pull up 3x10 then barbell row (underhand this week, overhand next week) 4x12,10,8,6 then wide pull down 3x10 or 3x12,10,8 then seated cable row or One-Arm Dumbbell Row 3x10 or 3x12,10,8 and lastly, deadlift (depending on my mood lol) |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Sep 30 2013, 01:07 PM) Of course you still want to improve, but having started at 48KG, wasn't there eventually a point where you looked at yourself in the mirror and said "Damn, I look ripped." Something you perhaps wouldn't have said at an earlier moment. A simpler question would be, how long did it take you to achieve a killer physique |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « started with kris gethin's 12 week transformation, after that I tried IF. Weight Flunctuate between 63kg-65kg this whole time. Should i continue to cut or bulk first? There's still spare tyre at the lower waist and abs not always visible under different lightnings. But also want to get bigger. ideal physique is those underwear model body This post has been edited by magiclover0716: Sep 30 2013, 11:38 PM |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Sep 30 2013, 11:35 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « started with kris gethin's 12 week transformation, after that I tried IF. Weight Flunctuate between 63kg-65kg this whole time. Should i continue to cut or bulk first? There's still spare tyre at the lower waist and abs not always visible under different lightnings. But also want to get bigger. ideal physique is those underwear model body my progress so far. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Sep 30 2013, 11:35 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « started with kris gethin's 12 week transformation, after that I tried IF. Weight Flunctuate between 63kg-65kg this whole time. Should i continue to cut or bulk first? There's still spare tyre at the lower waist and abs not always visible under different lightnings. But also want to get bigger. ideal physique is those underwear model body |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Sep 30 2013, 11:35 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « started with kris gethin's 12 week transformation, after that I tried IF. Weight Flunctuate between 63kg-65kg this whole time. Should i continue to cut or bulk first? There's still spare tyre at the lower waist and abs not always visible under different lightnings. But also want to get bigger. ideal physique is those underwear model body |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 1 2013, 02:41 PM) No idea why you guys like to overcomplicate things. You did make progress but it's all about consistency, smart dieting and hard training. You followed the diet EXACTLY? Down to every gram of protein carbs etc? C'mon la, the diet way too strict, way too strict. I eat pizza KFC and desserts too. Just learned to ate cleaner. I meant I followed the workout exactly, sorry for the misunderstanding caused. Now back to the ques, I want to be lean, and also be bigger. So could you shed some lights on cutting or bulking first? |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:39 PM) C'mon la, the diet way too strict, way too strict. I eat pizza KFC and desserts too. Just learned to ate cleaner. I meant I followed the workout exactly, sorry for the misunderstanding caused. You are complaining that the diet is too strict but you want to achieve something that a lot of normal person cannot get? Pfft.Now back to the ques, I want to be lean, and also be bigger. So could you shed some lights on cutting or bulking first? |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:43 PM) You are complaining that the diet is too strict but you want to achieve something that a lot of normal person cannot get? Pfft. Well to be exact I wasn't complaining, I'm just answering dl bro as he asked me did I follow EXACTLY This post has been edited by magiclover0716: Oct 1 2013, 06:41 PM |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Oct 1 2013, 06:39 PM) Well to be exact I wasn't complaining, I'm just answering dl bro as he asked me did I follow EXACTLY i like u^^haha. dare to post pics n stood till against bashes. me no dare post pics so me no dare comment 1. i support u!! |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:39 PM) C'mon la, the diet way too strict, way too strict. I eat pizza KFC and desserts too. Just learned to ate cleaner. I meant I followed the workout exactly, sorry for the misunderstanding caused. I think what he meant was, you're already given a diet plan. If you didn't follow it consistently, then why are you even questioning about your lack of progress? Unless you're educated enough in formulating your meal plans, then just follow a given plan to the dot and you'll be able to know what went wrong and gauge progress objectively from there. Beyond that it's all complaints and empty words. And yes, I'd say go for a bulk, but healthily.Now back to the ques, I want to be lean, and also be bigger. So could you shed some lights on cutting or bulking first? |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:39 PM) C'mon la, the diet way too strict, way too strict. I eat pizza KFC and desserts too. Just learned to ate cleaner. I meant I followed the workout exactly, sorry for the misunderstanding caused. No point bulking before you get to at least 10% body fat. Get to that percentage, then bulk clean/semi-cleanly.Now back to the ques, I want to be lean, and also be bigger. So could you shed some lights on cutting or bulking first? Once you realise it is sh!t-hard for you to cut to even 10%, you will learn to dial in your nutrition. This is because, you will know what bulking is all about. It is not simply eating more ice cream and kfc. Not all calories are equal, and when bulking you have a certain calories to hit and you have to hit it properly and not thinking "Wah, I got room for 800kCal... lets hit up pizza hut. I checked 4-slices of Hawaiian Chicken is 780kCal, ok ma!" It don't work like that. The forum is not unfriendly, but I suppose some folks here will be too hard pressed to offer constructive criticism because it is a public forum after all. With all the advice given and all the threads pinned, you all should give it a read first. Because, for all we know, spending the 5 minutes typing a constructive response will be dismissed and you will go out and do your own thing anyways. If you are even talking about bulking, you SHOULD know your current TDEE. What is your current Total Daily Energy Expenditure. If you were cutting previously, what was your Cutting Calories? And if you planned to bulk, what is your goal fat % prior to bulking and how much fat % as your weight to fat% target bulk. What will be your bulking calories requirement? You see, when you do not do "some" research when you come out and ask "should I bulk" what you will be asking is either simplistic 1 line answers like "Yeah man... BULK!!!!! WOOOOT." or you will get trolled or dismissed. I know it is an innocent question, but that is just what you will get in return, the "innocent unthoughtfull/useless" response or "gtfo, you have no idea wtf you talking about" response. If you are hungry and want to reward yourself with a big cheat meal, or a Cheat day or even a Cheat weekend, then by all means do it at your own discretion. You do not need the approval (or senseless encouragement) of this forum community to make you feel better about it. ### This post has been edited by anthony2211: Oct 2 2013, 10:19 AM |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:39 PM) C'mon la, the diet way too strict, way too strict. I eat pizza KFC and desserts too. Just learned to ate cleaner. I meant I followed the workout exactly, sorry for the misunderstanding caused. Actually i was gonna point out the diet works. All diets work. Prob is you didn't adjust the calorie intake for your bodyweight. Lol. Which is why your fat loss wasn't optimal.Now back to the ques, I want to be lean, and also be bigger. So could you shed some lights on cutting or bulking first? |
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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Oct 1 2013, 09:49 PM) i like u^^ didn't expect a reply like this but thanks haha. dare to post pics n stood till against bashes. me no dare post pics so me no dare comment 1. i support u!! QUOTE(DT1 @ Oct 1 2013, 09:57 PM) I think what he meant was, you're already given a diet plan. If you didn't follow it consistently, then why are you even questioning about your lack of progress? Unless you're educated enough in formulating your meal plans, then just follow a given plan to the dot and you'll be able to know what went wrong and gauge progress objectively from there. Beyond that it's all complaints and empty words. And yes, I'd say go for a bulk, but healthily. I see, but I didn't said being unhappy about my progress, or did I? QUOTE(anthony2211 @ Oct 2 2013, 10:08 AM) No point bulking before you get to at least 10% body fat. Get to that percentage, then bulk clean/semi-cleanly. First of all thanks for answering my question Once you realise it is sh!t-hard for you to cut to even 10%, you will learn to dial in your nutrition. This is because, you will know what bulking is all about. It is not simply eating more ice cream and kfc. Not all calories are equal, and when bulking you have a certain calories to hit and you have to hit it properly and not thinking "Wah, I got room for 800kCal... lets hit up pizza hut. I checked 4-slices of Hawaiian Chicken is 780kCal, ok ma!" It don't work like that. The forum is not unfriendly, but I suppose some folks here will be too hard pressed to offer constructive criticism because it is a public forum after all. With all the advice given and all the threads pinned, you all should give it a read first. Because, for all we know, spending the 5 minutes typing a constructive response will be dismissed and you will go out and do your own thing anyways. If you are even talking about bulking, you SHOULD know your current TDEE. What is your current Total Daily Energy Expenditure. If you were cutting previously, what was your Cutting Calories? And if you planned to bulk, what is your goal fat % prior to bulking and how much fat % as your weight to fat% target bulk. What will be your bulking calories requirement? You see, when you do not do "some" research when you come out and ask "should I bulk" what you will be asking is either simplistic 1 line answers like "Yeah man... BULK!!!!! WOOOOT." or you will get trolled or dismissed. I know it is an innocent question, but that is just what you will get in return, the "innocent unthoughtfull/useless" response or "gtfo, you have no idea wtf you talking about" response. If you are hungry and want to reward yourself with a big cheat meal, or a Cheat day or even a Cheat weekend, then by all means do it at your own discretion. You do not need the approval (or senseless encouragement) of this forum community to make you feel better about it. ### Sure I know how difficult is cutting(if it's easy, we'll see hot hunks everywhere right?) I admit, I have 0 knowledge about BB when I started the Kris Gethin programme. Coz I didn't know which way to start off, so the programme served me as a guideline. during the programme I then started to learn and read through forums. I've even started to read through the Bodybuilding thread in this forum, way earlier when there's one guy in the thread who said that he can bench press 2x BW. (btw, did he posted a vid about it yet?) coz i kinda stopped reading the old verson halfway and read the latest BB thread instead. And then after I nearly finished my kris gethin programme, i've started to look for new diet like Carb cycling, Intermittent fasting. I chose IF because i don't have to stress on having to eat 3 hours once, which suits my lifestyle. I do know my TDEE ofcourse, from what I've studied through forums and BB.com. Btw, from rippedbody.jp, it stated that i eat 30% less calories of my maintainence calorie on my rest days and 10% more on my training day in order to cut, right? lastly, i'm willingly to accept constructive critisms QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 2 2013, 11:41 AM) Actually i was gonna point out the diet works. All diets work. Prob is you didn't adjust the calorie intake for your bodyweight. Lol. Which is why your fat loss wasn't optimal. i'm using the formula below.Katch-McArdle BMR Formula: BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg) current weight is BW 65kg, i'm guessing my body fat percentage is 15% (coz i read somewhere that to have 4 packs visible u have to be at least 15% bodyfat). So, my BMR should be 1423cal. and then calculate my TDEE with activity multiplier (x1.45 for me) which is 2063cal To cut, according to here rest days cal intake=1444cal training days intake=2269cal Correct me if i'm wrong cheers |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Oct 2 2013, 05:00 PM) Katch-McArdle BMR Formula: LBM: (100-3-BF)*((KG-1)/100) = (100-3-15)*((65-1)/100) = 52.48BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg) current weight is BW 65kg, i'm guessing my body fat percentage is 15% (coz i read somewhere that to have 4 packs visible u have to be at least 15% bodyfat). So, my BMR should be 1423cal. and then calculate my TDEE with activity multiplier (x1.45 for me) which is 2063cal To cut, according to here rest days cal intake=1444cal training days intake=2269cal Correct me if i'm wrong cheers BMR: 370+(21.6*LBM) = 370+(21.6*52.48) = 1504 Seems like you got your figure for BMR wrong. |
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QUOTE(magiclover0716 @ Oct 2 2013, 06:21 PM) Further to that, if you are not already doing it, you should know your macros as well.Also, keeping it simple is probably better as in; the general fat-loss caloric deficit is 20% or coincidentally around 400-500 calories. Most folks are under the the average of 2.4k to 2.5k TDEE. That means, just keep the 400-500 deficit and not worry about 30% deficit on non workout day, and 10% surplus on work out days. When you start dialing in your macros, this will really give you a bit of a headache. IF is great as well. Give it a go. When you start finding yourself going into hunger mode and over consume even if it is within your feeding window, that is when you should stop. But if you can keep the pattern, then its great Lastly, although switching diet plans, work out programs are great way to progress and keep motivated, it is the consistency which will reward you. I still strongly believe that it is pointless to bulk when fat percentage is more than 10%, but that is just me. Folks may look at your size and say otherwise. Cheerios ### |
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QUOTE(Far-KingOfSorts @ Oct 23 2013, 09:05 AM) No ways bratha. Long ways off. If I cant convince myself yet, I am in no position to display myself to convince others.n But thanks for the compliments. Paiseh |
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@Mike, Des, Arul - Thanks for the awesome feedback guys. Currently working on an upper/lower split focusing on squats/deads/bench/pullups.
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QUOTE(anthony2211 @ Oct 2 2013, 10:08 AM) No point bulking before you get to at least 10% body fat. Get to that percentage, then bulk clean/semi-cleanly. Once you realise it is sh!t-hard for you to cut to even 10%, you will learn to dial in your nutrition. a) Dieting is not required for bulking b) Dieting is not required for bulking c) Dieting is not required for bulking d) What's the point of wasting so much time cutting from 20++% to go to 10% without sufficient muscle mass? You want him to look like an African famine victim? Sigh..........the bro-science is strong here. Eat clean, lift hard. Start at a base of 2000 kcal/day, scale up 100kcal/day for every inch above 5'8", track your weight fluctuations every fortnight. Cut 100 kcal/day if weight increasing but lifts not increasing Add 100kcal a day if feeling lethargic. Otherwise, maintain. |
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damn ripped and round desmeso ..... can share diet example ? any working supplement to help cut ? thanks
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Oct 28 2013, 05:49 PM) damn ripped and round desmeso ..... can share diet example ? any working supplement to help cut ? thanks Mine considered kinda bad way of dieting. Cut nearly all carbs and muscle loss followed. joe1aaa in your avatar, what happen to your body Better to count your macro nutrition. And the most painful lesson I have learned, don't depend on supplements!! Get your nutrients from real food. Your muscles will look and feel better. At most just get a Lean Protein Shake/ Casein and Creatine Monohydrate. |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Above is my current progress pic. Everything seems to "slow down" beyond week 2, despite the same diet/routine Im currently wondering how to intensify the routines/diet to get bulkier *Im at a very kampung area, no gym in 80km radius |
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QUOTE(aichiban @ Oct 29 2013, 05:37 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Above is my current progress pic. Everything seems to "slow down" beyond week 2, despite the same diet/routine Im currently wondering how to intensify the routines/diet to get bulkier *Im at a very kampung area, no gym in 80km radius |
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QUOTE(aichiban @ Oct 29 2013, 05:37 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Above is my current progress pic. Everything seems to "slow down" beyond week 2, despite the same diet/routine Im currently wondering how to intensify the routines/diet to get bulkier *Im at a very kampung area, no gym in 80km radius |
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Oct 29 2013, 09:42 PM) thanks!!have been procrastinating for years QUOTE(mikehuan @ Oct 30 2013, 08:51 AM) clean eating, very clean eatingQUOTE(chayjeong @ Oct 30 2013, 09:25 AM) i think i didnt lose any weight, or just 1kg of itevery breakfast, lunch and dinner its - steamed skinless chicken breast and vegetables some weekends no choice eat outside |
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QUOTE(aichiban @ Oct 29 2013, 05:37 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Above is my current progress pic. Everything seems to "slow down" beyond week 2, despite the same diet/routine Im currently wondering how to intensify the routines/diet to get bulkier *Im at a very kampung area, no gym in 80km radius QUOTE(aichiban @ Oct 30 2013, 09:37 AM) thanks!! wooooah.... my weight has been fluctuating like crazy in the past 1 n 1/2 year... .....68 75 70have been procrastinating for years clean eating, very clean eating i think i didnt lose any weight, or just 1kg of it every breakfast, lunch and dinner its - steamed skinless chicken breast and vegetables some weekends no choice eat outside dieting juz like tht? This post has been edited by nikita zuleica: Oct 30 2013, 02:35 PM |
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Oct 30 2013, 02:34 PM) wooooooh there're a lot of fat to lose...... How much do you weigh? rite now n past on the pic Day 0, I am at 58kgwooooah.... my weight has been fluctuating like crazy in the past 1 n 1/2 year... .....68 75 70 dieting juz like tht? Day 28, I am at 57kg so not really much difference in weight. not really "just like that" leh u can start to try, and maintain it. very hard especially if u go out often |
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QUOTE(aichiban @ Oct 29 2013, 05:37 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Above is my current progress pic. Everything seems to "slow down" beyond week 2, despite the same diet/routine Im currently wondering how to intensify the routines/diet to get bulkier *Im at a very kampung area, no gym in 80km radius However, isn't your cut a bit too fast? I think you lost A LOT within 8 days. |
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aichiban, about your meal plan, how many clean meal do you take per day? DO you count your calories or just eat as little as you can
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Oct 31 2013, 03:46 PM) aichiban, about your meal plan, how many clean meal do you take per day? DO you count your calories or just eat as little as you can QUOTE(feikai @ Nov 1 2013, 09:30 AM) Sorry was awayI cycle my carb intake throughout the week with consistent protein n fat intake Example of my one day meal is Morning Steamed Skinless 100g Chicken Breast with vegetables 2 Kiwi Oat Lunch Steamed Skinless 100g Chicken Breast with vegetables Wholegrain bread X4 Tea time Protein shake (easy to prepare at work) Dinner Steamed Skinless 80g Chicken Breast with vegetables Banana Supper Protein shake (as additional protein) The oat and bread will varies between high and low carb days Edit - 2 pills of fish oil capsule before sleep This post has been edited by aichiban: Nov 7 2013, 01:43 AM |
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QUOTE(aichiban @ Nov 7 2013, 01:43 AM) Sorry was away Dat some clean ass diet right thar......I cycle my carb intake throughout the week with consistent protein n fat intake Example of my one day meal is Morning Steamed Skinless 100g Chicken Breast with vegetables 2 Kiwi Oat Lunch Steamed Skinless 100g Chicken Breast with vegetables Wholegrain bread X4 Tea time Protein shake (easy to prepare at work) Dinner Steamed Skinless 80g Chicken Breast with vegetables Banana Supper Protein shake (as additional protein) The oat and bread will varies between high and low carb days Edit - 2 pills of fish oil capsule before sleep BTW what's your daily calories intake like? Based on what I see, less than 2000? Did you lost a lot of muscle mass in the progress? |
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After nearly 2 months of below diet, I am actually starting to get addicted to it
Morning (tastiest meal of the day): - 3/4 Cup Rolled Oats with chocolate Protein Powder mixed in (No instant or quick bull) - 1/2 can Ayam Brand Tuna in Mineral Water - 5 boiled eggs (only 2 yolks consumed) - black coffee no sugar - sometimes half tea spoon Steffi low fat peanut butter. Snack - 1 can Ayam brand Tuna in Mineral Water - Almond nuts or a piece of low fat cheddar cheese Lunch - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and brocolli - medium serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) Snack - 1/2 steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - small serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) - almonds or chestnuts - black coffee no sugar Post workout (immediately after workout) - Dymatize ISO 100 - Creatine - 1 green apple Dinner - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and broccoli Supper - Casein Protein - almonds or chestnuts (yes, these are my snacks and comfort food). |
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Nov 7 2013, 10:41 AM) Dat some clean ass diet right thar...... ya less than 2000. around 1600 averageBTW what's your daily calories intake like? Based on what I see, less than 2000? Did you lost a lot of muscle mass in the progress? on high carb days it is around 1800 low carb days around 1400 not sure if i lose muscle mass, but my weight stayed constant if i try to do more than 10 push ups, can feel the muscles at forearm tingles like guitar string being picked |
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QUOTE(desmoso @ Nov 7 2013, 12:28 PM) After nearly 2 months of below diet, I am actually starting to get addicted to it Morning (tastiest meal of the day): - 3/4 Cup Rolled Oats with chocolate Protein Powder mixed in (No instant or quick bull) - 1/2 can Ayam Brand Tuna in Mineral Water - 5 boiled eggs (only 2 yolks consumed) - black coffee no sugar - sometimes half tea spoon Steffi low fat peanut butter. Snack - 1 can Ayam brand Tuna in Mineral Water <-------srs? your mix em together and drink em? - Almond nuts or a piece of low fat cheddar cheese Lunch - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and brocolli - medium serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) Snack - 1/2 steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - small serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) - almonds or chestnuts - black coffee no sugar Post workout (immediately after workout) - Dymatize ISO 100 - Creatine - 1 green apple Dinner - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and broccoli Supper - Casein Protein - almonds or chestnuts (yes, these are my snacks and comfort food). |
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there are tuna sold in oil and water in cans.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Nov 8 2013, 08:29 AM) Nah bro, some tuna canned with olive oil, sunflower oil, etc. Buy the one that says canned in mineral water. No added sodium and salt. Dry and tasteless as paper tho. I try to mix them with some kidney beans or brown rice, chopped onions and squeeze some lemon in. Adds abit of flavor and texture |
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QUOTE(aichiban @ Oct 30 2013, 09:37 AM) thanks!! just clean eating ? have been procrastinating for years clean eating, very clean eating i think i didnt lose any weight, or just 1kg of it every breakfast, lunch and dinner its - steamed skinless chicken breast and vegetables some weekends no choice eat outside woah salute u man .. that is my dream .. did u do gym ? running etc ? |
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QUOTE(desmoso @ Nov 7 2013, 12:28 PM) After nearly 2 months of below diet, I am actually starting to get addicted to it Protein powder must take it cold right? i heard if its heated its not as effectiveMorning (tastiest meal of the day): - 3/4 Cup Rolled Oats with chocolate Protein Powder mixed in (No instant or quick bull) - 1/2 can Ayam Brand Tuna in Mineral Water - 5 boiled eggs (only 2 yolks consumed) - black coffee no sugar - sometimes half tea spoon Steffi low fat peanut butter. Snack - 1 can Ayam brand Tuna in Mineral Water - Almond nuts or a piece of low fat cheddar cheese Lunch - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and brocolli - medium serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) Snack - 1/2 steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - small serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) - almonds or chestnuts - black coffee no sugar Post workout (immediately after workout) - Dymatize ISO 100 - Creatine - 1 green apple Dinner - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and broccoli Supper - Casein Protein - almonds or chestnuts (yes, these are my snacks and comfort food). |
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QUOTE(desmoso @ Nov 7 2013, 12:28 PM) After nearly 2 months of below diet, I am actually starting to get addicted to it hmm do u mean mix ayam brand tuna with mineral water ? Morning (tastiest meal of the day): - 3/4 Cup Rolled Oats with chocolate Protein Powder mixed in (No instant or quick bull) - 1/2 can Ayam Brand Tuna in Mineral Water - 5 boiled eggs (only 2 yolks consumed) - black coffee no sugar - sometimes half tea spoon Steffi low fat peanut butter. Snack - 1 can Ayam brand Tuna in Mineral Water - Almond nuts or a piece of low fat cheddar cheese Lunch - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and brocolli - medium serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) Snack - 1/2 steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - small serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) - almonds or chestnuts - black coffee no sugar Post workout (immediately after workout) - Dymatize ISO 100 - Creatine - 1 green apple Dinner - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and broccoli Supper - Casein Protein - almonds or chestnuts (yes, these are my snacks and comfort food). how did it taste ? |
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QUOTE(stevenX @ Nov 11 2013, 08:26 PM) It's not a mix between tuna and mineral water. It's type of tuna in can. There are tuna in mayonaise, tuna in olive oil, and the cheapest yet healthiest tuna in can version would be tuna in mineral water. Giant once sold Blue Bay Shredded Tuna, 1 can for RM 1.79 |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Nov 11 2013, 08:36 PM) It's not a mix between tuna and mineral water. It's type of tuna in can. There are tuna in mayonaise, tuna in olive oil, and the cheapest yet healthiest tuna in can version would be tuna in mineral water. thanks for the light up, will go and search for it Giant once sold Blue Bay Shredded Tuna, 1 can for RM 1.79 |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Nov 11 2013, 08:46 PM) http://eshop.tesco.com.my/en-GB/ProductDet...tail/7002755130this ? its in tesco webstore |
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QUOTE(desmoso @ Nov 7 2013, 12:28 PM) After nearly 2 months of below diet, I am actually starting to get addicted to it No rice diet?Morning (tastiest meal of the day): - 3/4 Cup Rolled Oats with chocolate Protein Powder mixed in (No instant or quick bull) - 1/2 can Ayam Brand Tuna in Mineral Water - 5 boiled eggs (only 2 yolks consumed) - black coffee no sugar - sometimes half tea spoon Steffi low fat peanut butter. Snack - 1 can Ayam brand Tuna in Mineral Water - Almond nuts or a piece of low fat cheddar cheese Lunch - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and brocolli - medium serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) Snack - 1/2 steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - small serving homemade boiled kidney beans (no salt) - almonds or chestnuts - black coffee no sugar Post workout (immediately after workout) - Dymatize ISO 100 - Creatine - 1 green apple Dinner - 1 1/2 Steamed chicken breast (no salt no skin) - huge serving spinach and broccoli Supper - Casein Protein - almonds or chestnuts (yes, these are my snacks and comfort food). |
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QUOTE(stevenX @ Nov 11 2013, 09:22 PM) Yeap, the one I am having. The one Bro Alien mentioned I think no more too. Was trying to hunt for such cheap tuna! Cheapest for Ayam Brand I can find now is RM4.90 in Megah Herbs Pharmacy. |
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QUOTE(YakAttack @ Nov 15 2013, 10:56 PM) Glad you asked. It's reducing a lot from your progress pic thou. Hopefully it'll gone and you'll have that nice blocked chest to show Got it checked out about 6 months ago. Apparently it's not too uncommon for teenagers. Doc said it'll pass with time, who knows. It is kind of a b*tch tho, but whadyagonnado. |
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Nov 15 2013, 11:41 PM
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Great progress bro. I dont think its gyno. I had it too when I was fat, then when I slimmed down it was still there, until I got slimmer.
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Nov 16 2013, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Nov 15 2013, 10:59 PM) It's reducing a lot from your progress pic thou. Hopefully it'll gone and you'll have that nice blocked chest to show My chest is pretty underdeveloped in general, but hopefully soon enough. One step at a time. QUOTE(Damien?(: @ Nov 15 2013, 11:41 PM) Great progress bro. I dont think its gyno. I had it too when I was fat, then when I slimmed down it was still there, until I got slimmer. Thanks man!I was pretty skinny before I went on that dirty bulk, I didn't have a problem back then. Probably just all the fat that's been piling up. QUOTE(kob3bryant @ Nov 15 2013, 09:16 PM) You can, and you will once you set your mind to it! |
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QUOTE(fas29 @ Nov 16 2013, 11:06 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Looking great Arrio Keep it Up
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QUOTE(fas29 @ Dec 16 2013, 06:13 PM) Keep it up! 👍 job.. Patience is the key now..QUOTE(661188 @ Dec 16 2013, 10:18 PM) Good to know pics motivate some people. Therefore strongly urge more to share their pics or progress pics. If encountered any criticism, take it positively move ahead, hit it twice harder. It's only you against YOU. |
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Left, me, Training for one year 5 days a week all natural. Right, training for 8 years 6 days a week all natural.
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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Dec 22 2013, 08:12 PM) Left, me, Training for one year 5 days a week all natural. Right, training for 8 years 6 days a week all natural Nicezzz!!! Keep it up the good job!!! |
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While you guys look amazing, I'm slightly demotivated. I was on a conventional bulking/cut plan where I've seriously began bulking on August (or so), and cutting on December.
I took before (June) and after (Nov) pic. I don't see much difference on both other than a lot of fat. I've also gained a lot of excess fat due to me having a dirty bulk (yea silly). The only place that I see improvement is my back. Would like to ask you guys, is it that my lean gains are hidden beneath my fat layer? Especially when I've gain quite a lot of them. I'm 175cm. I gained from 71kg to 77kg within 6 months or so. If you would like to see pics. thanks |
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=101517...854985137000056
It was a 425lbs x 4 reps at 68.7kg bodyweight. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 23 2013, 11:55 PM) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=101517...854985137000056 Kanasai you are f**king BEAST!!!! Ducky seems OK eh hahahahaIt was a 425lbs x 4 reps at 68.7kg bodyweight. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 23 2013, 11:55 PM) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=101517...854985137000056 Cannot access? Only for your fb friends? Post here laIt was a 425lbs x 4 reps at 68.7kg bodyweight. |
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