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magiclover0716
post Sep 30 2013, 11:35 PM

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started with kris gethin's 12 week transformation, after that I tried IF. Weight Flunctuate between 63kg-65kg this whole time.
Should i continue to cut or bulk first? There's still spare tyre at the lower waist and abs not always visible under different lightnings. But also want to get bigger. ideal physique is those underwear model body drool.gif

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magiclover0716
post Oct 1 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 1 2013, 02:41 PM)
No idea why you guys like to overcomplicate things. You did make progress but it's all about consistency, smart dieting and hard training. You followed the diet EXACTLY? Down to every gram of protein carbs etc?
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C'mon la, the diet way too strict, way too strict. I eat pizza KFC and desserts too. Just learned to ate cleaner. I meant I followed the workout exactly, sorry for the misunderstanding caused.
Now back to the ques, I want to be lean, and also be bigger. So could you shed some lights on cutting or bulking first? smile.gif
magiclover0716
post Oct 1 2013, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:43 PM)
You are complaining that the diet is too strict but you want to achieve something that a lot of normal person cannot get? Pfft.
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Well to be exact I wasn't complaining, I'm just answering dl bro as he asked me did I follow EXACTLY smile.gif did you see what's the diet plan? smile.gif By too strict I meant no white rice, no processed food, doesn't eat outside food, bring lunch boxes along even during travel, no sugar and no cheat meal for 3 whole months straight. So I didn't follow the diet plan to the dot, I do eat white rice as carbs, have pizza as cheat meal once awhile etc. Is my English that bad? I'm sorry for the misunderstanding cause again. Don't be so unfriendly la. I'm just a guy that wan to know whether to cut or bulk at the current stage only. Cheers smile.gif

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post Oct 2 2013, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Oct 1 2013, 09:49 PM)
i like u^^

haha. dare to post pics n stood till against bashes.

me no dare post pics so me no dare comment 1. i support u!!
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didn't expect a reply like this but thanks smile.gif i'm just here to ask a question, not to start an argument though

QUOTE(DT1 @ Oct 1 2013, 09:57 PM)
I think what he meant was, you're already given a diet plan. If you didn't follow it consistently, then why are you even questioning about your lack of progress? Unless you're educated enough in formulating your meal plans, then just follow a given plan to the dot and you'll be able to know what went wrong and gauge progress objectively from there. Beyond that it's all complaints and empty words. And yes, I'd say go for a bulk, but healthily.
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I see, but I didn't said being unhappy about my progress, or did I? blink.gif probably another misunderstanding

QUOTE(anthony2211 @ Oct 2 2013, 10:08 AM)
No point bulking before you get to at least 10% body fat. Get to that percentage, then bulk clean/semi-cleanly.

Once you realise it is sh!t-hard for you to cut to even 10%, you will learn to dial in your nutrition.

This is because, you will know what bulking is all about.  It is not simply eating more ice cream and kfc.  Not all calories are equal, and when bulking you have a certain calories to hit and you have to hit it properly and not thinking "Wah, I got room for 800kCal... lets hit up pizza hut. I checked 4-slices of Hawaiian Chicken is 780kCal, ok ma!"  It don't work like that.

The forum is not unfriendly, but I suppose some folks here will be too hard pressed to offer constructive criticism because it is a public forum after all. With all the advice given and all the threads pinned, you all should give it a read first.  Because, for all we know, spending the 5 minutes typing a constructive response will be dismissed and you will go out and do your own thing anyways.

If you are even talking about bulking, you SHOULD know your current TDEE. What is your current Total Daily Energy Expenditure. If you were cutting previously, what was your Cutting Calories? And if you planned to bulk, what is your goal fat % prior to bulking and how much fat % as your weight to fat% target bulk. What will be your bulking calories requirement?

You see, when you do not do "some" research when you come out and ask "should I bulk" what you will be asking is either simplistic 1 line answers like "Yeah man... BULK!!!!! WOOOOT." or you will get trolled or dismissed. 

I know it is an innocent question, but that is just what you will get in return, the "innocent unthoughtfull/useless" response or "gtfo, you have no idea wtf you talking about" response.  If you are hungry and want to reward yourself with a big cheat meal, or a Cheat day or even a Cheat weekend, then by all means do it at your own discretion. You do not need the approval (or senseless encouragement) of this forum community to make you feel better about it.

smile.gif Cheerios mate.
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First of all thanks for answering my question smile.gif appreciate it. But again I'm not complaining about the progress, but just to ask whether at my current physique, should i bulk or should i cut first to reach my goal.

Sure I know how difficult is cutting(if it's easy, we'll see hot hunks everywhere right?)
I admit, I have 0 knowledge about BB when I started the Kris Gethin programme. Coz I didn't know which way to start off, so the programme served me as a guideline. during the programme I then started to learn and read through forums. I've even started to read through the Bodybuilding thread in this forum, way earlier when there's one guy in the thread who said that he can bench press 2x BW. (btw, did he posted a vid about it yet?) coz i kinda stopped reading the old verson halfway and read the latest BB thread instead.

And then after I nearly finished my kris gethin programme, i've started to look for new diet like Carb cycling, Intermittent fasting. I chose IF because i don't have to stress on having to eat 3 hours once, which suits my lifestyle. I do know my TDEE ofcourse, from what I've studied through forums and BB.com. Btw, from rippedbody.jp, it stated that i eat 30% less calories of my maintainence calorie on my rest days and 10% more on my training day in order to cut, right? smile.gif hope i'm not wrong.

lastly, i'm willingly to accept constructive critisms smile.gif but please don't start to bash me when you "assume" i did not do my homework before asking. thanks smile.gif

QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 2 2013, 11:41 AM)
Actually i was gonna point out the diet works. All diets work. Prob is you didn't adjust the calorie intake for your bodyweight. Lol. Which is why your fat loss wasn't optimal.
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i'm using the formula below.

Katch-McArdle BMR Formula:

BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg)

current weight is BW 65kg, i'm guessing my body fat percentage is 15% (coz i read somewhere that to have 4 packs visible u have to be at least 15% bodyfat). So, my BMR should be 1423cal.

and then calculate my TDEE with activity multiplier (x1.45 for me) which is 2063cal

To cut, according to here
rest days cal intake=1444cal
training days intake=2269cal

Correct me if i'm wrong smile.gif
cheers


magiclover0716
post Oct 2 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Oct 2 2013, 05:36 PM)
LBM: (100-3-BF)*((KG-1)/100) = (100-3-15)*((65-1)/100) = 52.48

BMR: 370+(21.6*LBM) = 370+(21.6*52.48) = 1504

Seems like you got your figure for BMR wrong.
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You're right! Sorry, my bad. So I had my bmr calculated lower :/

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