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TSkianwee
post Feb 28 2009, 06:49 PM, updated 16y ago

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LCD Monitor Thread v6.00 (FYI: LCD MONITOR ≠LCD TV)


Recommended LCD Monitor Review Links:

TestFreaks LCD Monitor Review
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LCD Panel Guides:

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Contemporary LCD Monitor Parameters and Characteristics




Recommended LCD Testing Tools:

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Manufacture's Support Forum:

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Use this image to test your LCD's color and to detect gradient banding. smile.gif
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Link to v5.00 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/832727
Link to v4.00 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/724890
Link to v3.10 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/374456

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hehe.....V6 aldy...vroom vroom ^^
wonder anyone gonna try Dell G2410?
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now it's not only the widescreen era, but HD..

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pity me still using 17'inch lcd monitor with no DVI ..
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QUOTE(ckh93 @ Feb 28 2009, 07:27 PM)
pity me still using 17'inch lcd monitor with no DVI ..
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No money to change to LCD cry.gif

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Dell S2409W 24" has maximum resolution at 1920 x 1080. But can this lcd run full screen beautifully at resolution 1280 x 720 with DVI input?
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QUOTE(alfiethedog @ Feb 28 2009, 07:53 PM)
Dell S2409W 24" has maximum resolution at 1920 x 1080. But can this lcd run full screen beautifully at resolution 1280 x 720 with DVI input?
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now why in the 1st place you wanna put on 1280x720 while can max it up at 1920x1080? as for me I just stay on 1920x1080..maybe i'll run a test for you and find out how is it =D

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new thread,old model 2407WFP-HC user reporting in.
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QUOTE(Tsj261 @ Feb 28 2009, 08:31 PM)
now why in the 1st place you wanna put on 1280x720 while can max it up at 1920x1080? as for me I just stay on 1920x1080..maybe i'll run a test for you and find out how is it =D
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Thank for trying it out.This is bcos my gc doesn't seem to support up to 1920 x 1080 resolution

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Do you think how much we able to get for HP LP2475w in Malaysia?

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wow? new thread? good la...hehe...
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Dell S2409 still 699myr :-)
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Let us poison CRTs owners to get LCDs since the price is so low now. rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(alfiethedog @ Feb 28 2009, 08:52 PM)
Thank for trying it out.This is bcos my gc doesn't seem to support up to 1920 x 1080 resolution
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hmm, somehow i test it and its still clear but im unable to full screen it. It just like a rectangle shape in the middle of the screen lol

QUOTE(mitodna @ Feb 28 2009, 09:40 PM)
Dell S2409 still 699myr :-)
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QUOTE(alfiethedog @ Feb 28 2009, 08:52 PM)
Thank for trying it out.This is bcos my gc doesn't seem to support up to 1920 x 1080 resolution
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i tried with hd 4830.
blury visual! not sharp at all.
what is ur gc?
if disable scaling n use centered timing, visual sharp but got blackbar around it.
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my ati 9250 128mb can sapot 1920x1080 reso without any problem!



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Tested 1280X720 wif my X1950Pro and S2409W too....
that's black bar around it...and ya...blury...
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QUOTE(alfiethedog @ Feb 28 2009, 07:53 PM)
Dell S2409W 24" has maximum resolution at 1920 x 1080. But can this lcd run full screen beautifully at resolution 1280 x 720 with DVI input?
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my opinion:
update gpu driver n plug in the LCD monitor, PC will auto detect what reso that 2409w can sapot!

if now u use Laptop LCD with 1280x720 reso (highest possible for it i think) that's why u cant set higher than that! bcos system auto detect what reso laptop lcd can handle!
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aiya bro... 30 inch out oledi a? how much a? better having 30 inch to installed with my astro... hahaha... but very big size.. gaming kaw2... haha..
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comparison image quality for 1280x720 on dell s2409w (fullscreen@stretch vs centered timing@1:1 pixel count)
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QUOTE(azsmartz @ Feb 28 2009, 11:44 PM)
aiya bro... 30 inch out oledi a? how much a? better having 30 inch to installed with my astro... hahaha... but very big size.. gaming kaw2... haha..
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Why dont u juz get a 32" LCD TV as ur computer monitor... laugh.gif
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32 inch only 1366x768 i think!
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QUOTE(adie82 @ Mar 1 2009, 02:09 AM)
32 inch only 1366x768 i think!
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as i remember lcd tv and lcd ( mainly for pc ) have different resolution?
I remember once i try to connect my pc with my 40'inch lcd tv...damn cacat looking sial lol
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ya..... afaik, only 40inch above sapot 1920x1080 full hd!
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ya..... afaik, only 40inch above sapot 1920x1080 full hd!
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some 32 inch and 37 inch support full HD
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QUOTE(adie82 @ Mar 1 2009, 09:00 AM)
ya..... afaik, only 40inch above sapot 1920x1080 full hd!
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aiyoo now even 21.5 inch monitor supports full hd.. lagi la klau 32" tv... sweat.gif
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hey bro ..wanna ask ..how do I know that i am using the HDMI cable or not ?coz currently i am using the Acer H233H 23 Wide Screen ..i dunno how to utillize the input ..basically i just put in all the input ..how do i do some setting ?my Graphic card would be Gigaybyte 9800 Gt 512mb ..how do i make the refresh rate at 76 ..as i know its the maximum..
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QUOTE(adie82 @ Feb 28 2009, 11:37 PM)
my opinion:
update gpu driver n plug in the LCD monitor, PC will auto detect what reso that  2409w can sapot!

if now u use Laptop LCD with 1280x720 reso (highest possible for it i think) that's why u cant set higher than that! bcos system auto detect what reso laptop lcd can handle!
sory... bad english! sad.gif
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I think i get what u mean by the system auto detect monitor capability resolution thing. The gc got no problem but just the limitation on old monitor. We'll c when i get to try out with 2409w rclxm9.gif
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i am expecting my dell 2409w tomorrow morning
sure will check out the resolution on my his 4850 iceq4
i am going to miss my baby syncmaster 732n

nak jual syg pulak.... can be spare monitor
tak jual... meja pulak tak muat tongue.gif
who want to take??? hehehe
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QUOTE(polisdirajasarawak @ Mar 1 2009, 08:29 PM)
i am expecting my dell 2409w tomorrow morning
sure will check out the resolution on my his 4850 iceq4
i am going to miss my baby syncmaster 732n

nak jual syg pulak.... can be spare monitor
tak jual... meja pulak tak muat tongue.gif
who want to take??? hehehe
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QUOTE(Tsj261 @ Mar 1 2009, 03:17 AM)
as i remember lcd tv and lcd ( mainly for pc ) have different resolution?
I remember once i try to connect my pc with my 40'inch lcd tv...damn cacat looking sial lol
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i've tried it before.. my friends says it goods to have lcd monitor become ur tv install with astro and use altec lansing as a audio system coz it will cost cheaper than buying hdtv... that what i'm thinking right now...
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QUOTE(azsmartz @ Mar 1 2009, 10:59 PM)
i've tried it before.. my friends says it goods to have lcd monitor become ur tv install with astro and use altec lansing as a audio system coz it will cost cheaper than buying hdtv... that what i'm thinking right now...
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No..LCD monitor will always more pricy than HDTV...32" HDTV costs around rm2000, while 27" LCD monitor costs around rm2+++....
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oo... yaka.. haha... maybe my next project... but still figure out tu buy new workstation.... still decide amd or intel... but maybe you can recommend best graphics card to be installed for gaming and video editing...
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QUOTE(azsmartz @ Mar 1 2009, 11:26 PM)
oo... yaka.. haha... maybe my next project... but still figure out tu buy new workstation.... still decide amd or intel... but maybe you can recommend best graphics card to be installed for gaming and video editing...
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Then how much ur budget for ur graphic card?
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Mar 1 2009, 11:09 PM)
No..LCD monitor will always more pricy than HDTV...32" HDTV costs around rm2000, while 27" LCD monitor costs around rm2+++....
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if 32' HDTV, will the pic quality really bad ??
and need SLI rite??
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QUOTE(Neo8663 @ Mar 1 2009, 11:34 PM)
if 32' HDTV, will the pic quality really bad ??
and need SLI rite??
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No, i think it's nothing to do with SLI...Bcoz the resolution of 32" HDTV is small... hmm.gif
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if u buy 32" HDTV. make sure u get the Full HD but not the HD Ready one.

Full HD = 1080
HD Ready = 720
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thats mean viewsonic out of my choice redy biggrin.gif
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y? get samsung T240 ...superb LCD drool.gif sum one spare me cash T.T
i just love the height. arghh i must start working >.> tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Mar 2 2009, 12:23 AM)
y? get samsung T240 ...superb LCD drool.gif sum one spare me cash T.T
i just love the height. arghh i must start working >.>  tongue.gif
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Lol..T240 costs around rm1215...Still so expensive le... sad.gif
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LG Rolls Out New HD Monitors
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LG announced a new fleet of full-HD capable LCD monitors today. The lineup consists of three models of different screen-sizes under the Wxx53V-PF naming scheme: the 22 inch W2253V-PF, 24 inch W2453V-PF and 27 inch W2753V-PF. LG seems to have emphasized on both form and function with these ones. Sporting a piano-black shell with a dash of clear acrylic, the monitors pack LCD panels with 2 ms response time. All models have native resolutions of 1920 x 1080 pixels (1080p HD), and are HDCP-capable.

Additionally, they feature intelligent Auto Bright, Live Sensor, and Cinema mode proprietary features. The monitor detects the intensity of light in the environment it's working in, and accordingly adjusts brightness and contrast levels. All models support offer DVI-D, D-SUB, and HDMI port as input connectivity options. LG is yet to release or price these monitors outside the Japanese market as of now.


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Any expectation price for 27"? drool.gif
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wah.. i m so late.. v6 d.. third page i baru reach.. tongue.gif

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Why ur Dell s2409 make u so happy?
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Mar 1 2009, 04:46 PM)
aiyoo now even 21.5 inch monitor supports full hd.. lagi la klau 32" tv... sweat.gif
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im talking about LCD tv. not lcd monitor! rclxub.gif
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yeah, lcd tv and lcd monitors are very different in supported resolutions
you can even find 40" lcd tv that is only HD ready
quite sad that the industry is moving from 1920*1200 to 1920*1080, gonna miss the extra space
especially useful when seeing a 16:9 video and need to access the command bar without disrupting the movie
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wa.. v6 already..
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Me at first like 16:10 ratio monitor, but cant afford to buy it. so i bought Dell S2409 (16:9) and never feel regret it. trust me it awesome!!

and for those who really think 16:9 ratio will produce small font rather than 16:10, just go buy bigger monitor. dont look at 22 inch, try find 24 inch monitor and problem solve. if you still feel the font small go to properties and make system font medium. if that not solve try to use Ctrl+= or Ctrl + mouse scroll to zoom in /zoom out.

If that still canot solve than you should buy 16:10 monitor
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Hi to all s2409w user here. Is this lcd produce any blur image or ghosting when watching action movie or playing game since the response is only 5ms instead of 2 ms?
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Hi to all s2409w user here. Is this lcd produce any blur image or ghosting when watching action movie or playing game since the response is only 5ms instead of 2 ms?
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s2409w should be able to handle it nicely. nod.gif
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QUOTE(alfiethedog @ Mar 2 2009, 10:06 AM)
Hi to all s2409w user here. Is this lcd produce any blur image or ghosting when watching action movie or playing game since the response is only 5ms instead of 2 ms?
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not all all. Im playing GRID and RA3 and fallout 3. It smooth and no ghost thingy. btw my GC just nvidia 9600GT. maybe the result better if GC better biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Mar 2 2009, 10:13 AM)
not all all. Im playing GRID and RA3 and fallout 3. It smooth and no ghost thingy. btw my GC just nvidia  9600GT. maybe the result better if GC better  biggrin.gif
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Mine is 9400GT. Hope it can handle it smoothly
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9400gt cant handle 1920x1080 la fren!
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It still can support for normal uses such as watching movies and office work. but not so sure about gaming. maybe little lag
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QUOTE(adie82 @ Mar 2 2009, 11:41 AM)
9400gt cant handle 1920x1080 la fren!
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cant??? shocking.gif but the max resolution for this gc can go up to 2560 x 1600
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hi, wanna ask 1 question. my lcd is not crystalbrite so i'm thinking of tinting it with clear tint. what happen if we tint our lcd screen? will the color produced looks differently from what it should be?
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Guys, newbie in LCD here.

Need recommendation from fellow experts here as I need a LCD. Budget around 700-800.

Main purpose of it is for my photo editing. So just wondering what to mean by contrast ratio ? Is it higher contrast ratio, the better the LCD it is ?

Anyway, hope fellow experts can enlighten my doubts. Thanks and have a nice day smile.gif
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QUOTE(alfiethedog @ Mar 2 2009, 12:48 PM)
cant???  shocking.gif  but the max resolution for this gc can go up to 2560 x 1600
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sure you can at normal uses.
Maybe little lag for new games
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sure you can at normal uses.
Maybe little lag for new games
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Thanks for your patient. thumbup.gif I'm not a hardcore gamer though. Just hope that this gc and s2409w can serve game like c&c 3 smoothly at 1080i biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alfiethedog @ Mar 2 2009, 02:33 PM)
Thanks for your patient.  thumbup.gif I'm not a hardcore gamer though. Just hope that this gc and s2409w can serve game like c&c 3 smoothly at 1080i  biggrin.gif
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izzit c&c 3 is Red alert 3?
maybe that will lag if you use high AA and details. try use normal for better gaming. becoz mine also using not all at high reso 4X AA only sweat.gif
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is there any LCD monitor that can be connected to PSP (slim) to play game??? wha type of cable that we need...

kindly suggest me one lcd monitor capable of that...thanks...
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i support the samsung and LG lcd screen... which is 19 inches.
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izzit c&c 3 is Red alert 3?
maybe that will lag if you use high AA and details. try use normal for better gaming. becoz mine also using not all at high reso 4X AA only sweat.gif
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Yes. What is AA actually and where do i get to adjust it. In the game option part?? icon_question.gif
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Yes. What is AA actually and where do i get to adjust it. In the game option part?? icon_question.gif
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i support the samsung and LG lcd screen... which is 19 inches.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 2 2009, 02:10 PM)
Guys, newbie in LCD here.

Need recommendation from fellow experts here as I need a LCD. Budget around 700-800.

Main purpose of it is for my photo editing. So just wondering what to mean by contrast ratio ? Is it higher contrast ratio, the better the LCD it is ?

Anyway, hope fellow experts can enlighten my doubts. Thanks and have a nice day smile.gif
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yes the higher the contrast ratio the better the colour, but this not apply to dynamic contrast ratio.
At your budget there are many good LCD out ther. See for yourself. go take a look at samsung product, it has very good colour. try find 16:10 ratio monitor. blush.gif

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hi, wanna ask 1 question. my lcd is not crystalbrite so i'm thinking of tinting it with clear tint. what happen if we tint our lcd screen? will the color produced looks differently from what it should be?
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yes the higher the contrast ratio the better the colour,  but this not apply to dynamic contrast ratio.
At your budget there are many good LCD out ther. See for yourself. go take a look at samsung product, it has very good colour. try find 16:10 ratio monitor. blush.gif
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Thanks for the reply. Just wondering between Dell S2409W and Acer P244W, which 1 is better ? smile.gif

And also Acer H233HQ, Acer X233H. This 4 LCD, which is the better 1 ? smile.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 2 2009, 08:42 PM)
Thanks for the reply. Just wondering between Dell S2409W and Samsung P244W, which 1 is better ? smile.gif

And also Acer H233HQ, Acer X233H. This 4 LCD, which is the better 1 ? smile.gif
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If you're working as a photo editor/graphics designer, I will suggest you not to get any LCD right now with your budget. You need at least a 8bit PVA or IPS panel for color accuracy. If photo editing is nothing major and you do not have to be too particular about color accuracy, DELL S2409W gets my vote.
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 2 2009, 02:04 PM)
hi, wanna ask 1 question. my lcd is not crystalbrite so i'm thinking of tinting it with clear tint. what happen if we tint our lcd screen? will the color produced looks differently from what it should be?
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You can't tint your LCD dude. Why on earth do you want to tint your LCD? Tinting a LCD won't make your matte screen becomes glossy screen.
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Acer P244W ? not Samsung.
That lcd very expensive... wonder why?

kianwee, I believe he mean put screen protector to get some tinting power.
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 2 2009, 09:13 PM)
If you're working as a photo editor/graphics designer, I will suggest you not to get any LCD right now with your budget. You need at least a 8bit PVA or IPS panel for color accuracy. If photo editing is nothing major and you do not have to be too particular about color accuracy, DELL S2409W gets my vote.
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I'm not a photo editor nor graphics designer but I need a good LCD to edit photos taken by me.
Dell is better than all the 3 Acer models ? Please enlighten smile.gif

QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Mar 2 2009, 09:20 PM)
Acer P244W ? not Samsung.
That lcd very expensive... wonder why?

kianwee, I believe he mean put screen protector to get some tinting power.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 2 2009, 09:25 PM)
I'm not a photo editor nor graphics designer but I need a good LCD to edit photos taken by me.
Dell is better than all the 3 Acer models ? Please enlighten smile.gif
Sorry. Typo. Any recommendation ?
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DELL in terms of build quality and better warranty. I would definitely avoid Acer, they are not good in anything. doh.gif

I believe the most popular LCD brand here is either DELL or Samsung.
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Which one do u guys recommend?
DELL S2409W only 1920x1080!!
Samsung 2433BW No HDMI!
Samsung T240
BenQ V2400W 2ms!!

i suppose most of u will recommend 2409w bcoz of the bang for the buck.. but if price isnt an issue do u guys recommend any other of these?
n oh yes, purpose of the monitor is alot of gaming, so i guess dont want ghosting or sort, and a little hd movies

*typo*

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Mine is 9400GT. Hope it can handle it smoothly
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QUOTE(Zmir @ Mar 2 2009, 10:55 PM)
Which one do u guys recommend?
DELL S2409W  only 1920x1080!!
Samsung 2433BW No HDMI!
Samsung T240 
BenQ V2400W  2ms!!

i suppose most of u will recommend 2409w bcoz of the bang for the buck.. but if price isnt an issue do u guys recommend any other of these?
n oh yes, purpose of the monitor is alot of gaming, so i guess dont want ghosting or sort, and a little hd movies

*typo*
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go for dell 2409w
no ghosting here as i paired mine with his 4850 iceq4
play NFSU Prostreet, COD4, fifa and many more games at highest resolution on this lcd
did not find ghosting
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S2409W+9800GX2 with game CoH 1920X1080@60Hz@2XAA running great. start to love gaming at high reso....
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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Mar 3 2009, 01:32 AM)
S2409W+9800GX2 with game CoH 1920X1080@60Hz@2XAA running great. start to love gaming at high reso....
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U know why? S2409W pair wif 9800gx2 le... laugh.gif
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hello, i'm lookin for a lcd monitor. currently i spotted Dell S1909W 18.5" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor - RM359.

is it worth to buy? any alternative recommendation around this budget??
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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Mar 3 2009, 08:40 AM)
hello, i'm lookin for a lcd monitor. currently i spotted Dell S1909W 18.5" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor - RM359.

is it worth to buy? any alternative recommendation around this budget??
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Find bigger sure u wont remorse brows.gif brows.gif
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as long there can brough the joy off hd,i think below 20" not a problem.

how about acer20"?heard many of user sastify with 1440x900.
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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Mar 3 2009, 08:40 AM)
hello, i'm lookin for a lcd monitor. currently i spotted Dell S1909W 18.5" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor - RM359.

is it worth to buy? any alternative recommendation around this budget??
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Why go for 18.5" when you can get 24" with additional RM250-300? smile.gif
But if you insist, I still won't recommend 19", go for at least 22" lor...hehehe...


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QUOTE(Zmir @ Mar 2 2009, 10:55 PM)
Which one do u guys recommend?
DELL S2409W  only 1920x1080!!
Samsung 2433BW No HDMI!
Samsung T240 
BenQ V2400W  2ms!!

i suppose most of u will recommend 2409w bcoz of the bang for the buck.. but if price isnt an issue do u guys recommend any other of these?
n oh yes, purpose of the monitor is alot of gaming, so i guess dont want ghosting or sort, and a little hd movies

*typo*
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Gaming and MOvies only? go for Dell la bro of coz rclxms.gif
I personally ok with T240, but it's very stiff and a bit expensive, hehe...

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Can someone recommend me a LCD Monitor for Graphic Design use ?
In 19" to 22".

Nowadays a lot of model came out are targeted for HD Movies, such as 16:9 aspect ratio & reflective screen.
Panel Types also typical. I prefer those with at least PVA Types.

My Priority are;
1) DVI Connections.
2) Color Accuracy.
3) Non-Reflective Screen.
4) Can get in Local Stores.
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Guys, I had made up my mind to get Samsung 2333SW. But now my concern is I will be connecting my laptop to this LCD. So any idea whether my graphic card can support it ?

Am using Intel Media Accelerator X3100.

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Guys, I had made up my mind to get Samsung 2333SW. But now my concern is I will be connecting my laptop to this LCD. So any idea whether my graphic card can support it ?

Am using Intel Media Accelerator X3100.
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QUOTE(axbx @ Mar 3 2009, 10:51 AM)
Why go for 18.5" when you can get 24" with additional RM250-300? smile.gif 
But if you insist, I still won't recommend 19", go for at least 22" lor...hehehe...
additional RM200-300 is big different, but i also agree, 22" for better view.

IceBikers maybe you should consider 2nd hand monitor.i buy 2nd hand LG w2242t for RM465 include postage(5month use),
it is suitable for me since like 16:10 ratio more than 16:9 and better to save some money since technology is changing fast and usually the item that have the reasonable price usually is the average item and for lcd i think it is 22" monitor
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@mememe12

Why ur Dell s2409 make u so happy?
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erm.. bcoz it is big (since i upgraded from laptop 15.4inch) and the price is so reasonable (RM589)

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 2 2009, 08:42 PM)
Thanks for the reply. Just wondering between Dell S2409W and Acer P244W, which 1 is better ? smile.gif

And also Acer H233HQ, Acer X233H. This 4 LCD, which is the better 1 ? smile.gif
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I m using Dell 2409 to watch movie and photo editing also.. but then from what i see from my Laptop compared to what I see in the 2409.. the 2409 seems a bit more saturate or reddish.. shud i change any setting? anyone using this monitor for photo editing? mind to share the setting?
* if compared side by side. my laptop look a bit yellowish tho

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 3 2009, 06:08 PM)
Guys, I had made up my mind to get Samsung 2333SW. But now my concern is I will be connecting my laptop to this LCD. So any idea whether my graphic card can support it ?

Am using Intel Media Accelerator X3100.
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i m connecting it with my laptop too.. smile.gif if possible, pls post here about what u think of your samsung 2333 on photo editing.. i see most of the ppl here got 2409 including me.. but very rare can see the comment on 2333.. thx wink.gif
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No problem with your graphics card
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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Mar 3 2009, 08:59 PM)
erm.. bcoz it is big (since i upgraded from laptop 15.4inch) and the price is so reasonable (RM589)
I m using Dell 2409 to watch movie and photo editing also.. but then from what i see from my Laptop compared to what I see in the 2409.. the 2409 seems a bit more saturate or reddish.. shud i change any setting? anyone using this monitor for photo editing? mind to share the setting?
* if compared side by side. my laptop look a bit yellowish tho
i m connecting it with my laptop too.. smile.gif if possible, pls post here about what u think of your samsung 2333 on photo editing.. i see most of the ppl here got 2409 including me.. but very rare can see the comment on 2333.. thx wink.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 3 2009, 09:43 PM)
Can display full resolution ?
The shop fellow told me can't sweat.gif doh.gif
Will post up review if I really buy it biggrin.gif
Cheers.
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Obviously the shop fellow is retarded or else he wouldn't be the shop fellow now, would he?

X3100 has a maximum resolution of 2048x1536.

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Hi all! Have u guys checked out the new Viewsonic VX2433? It's a bombshell!!! It's like, really good for its price... Even beat the Dell S2409 flat... laugh.gif
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Can display full resolution ?
The shop fellow told me can't sweat.gif doh.gif
Will post up review if I really buy it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 3 2009, 10:30 PM)
Obviously the shop fellow is retarded or else he wouldn't be the shop fellow now, would he?

X3100 has a maximum resolution of 2048x1536.
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shop assistant doens't know shit.... never trust them
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Alright. Thanks for the help up.
As I scare my laptop intergrated X3100 can't support.
Guess you guys clear of my doubts. Thanks alot. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kingcom @ Mar 3 2009, 10:00 PM)
Hi all! Have u guys checked out the new Viewsonic VX2433? It's a bombshell!!! It's like, really good for its price... Even beat the Dell S2409 flat... laugh.gif
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wats the price? less than 580?
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QUOTE(attentional @ Mar 3 2009, 10:42 PM)
shop assistant doens't know shit.... never trust them
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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Mar 3 2009, 02:14 PM)
Can someone recommend me a LCD Monitor for Graphic Design use ?
In 19" to 22".

Nowadays a lot of model came out are targeted for HD Movies, such as 16:9 aspect ratio & reflective screen.
Panel Types also typical. I prefer those with at least PVA Types.

My Priority are;
1) DVI Connections.
2) Color Accuracy.
3) Non-Reflective Screen.
4) Can get in Local Stores.
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That new Dell 22" is rather good but it's not really available to be ordered or anything. And honestly, I doubt most retailers wouldn't stock premium panels since most people just want it big and cheap.

There's another one from HP, I forgot the model number but it's a 22" and goes for around 2k, could be found in HP's website, naturally.
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22" for 2k? Which model from HP....Im using HP w2228h, it's now seling at RM799...
Maybe that 22" isnt LCD monitor....Is LED monitor i think...

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Guys, sorry but I'm in dilemma of choosing again doh.gif

My friend, a photographer said Dell Ultrasharp series is good for photo editing as it's 16:10 and the contrast ratio is 2000:1 for Dell Ultrasharp 2009W

So, should I get Dell Ultrasharp series but only 20" or Samsung 2333SW ?

Really appreciate once again.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 4 2009, 12:18 AM)
Guys, sorry but I'm in dilemma of choosing again doh.gif

My friend, a photographer said Dell Ultrasharp series is good for photo editing as it's 16:10 and the contrast ratio is 2000:1 for Dell Ultrasharp 2009W

So, should I get Dell Ultrasharp series but only 20" or Samsung 2333SW ?

Really appreciate once again.
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For me, i'd go for Samsung 2333SW...Coz it's using 16:9 aspect ratio, while Dell Ultrasharp 2009W is 16:10 aspect ratio...
Summore, Samsung 2333SW is newer than Dell Ultrasharp 2009W... smile.gif
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is it dell 2009w 1680x1050?
but samsung 2333sw 1920x1080. more space
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QUOTE(adie82 @ Mar 4 2009, 01:31 AM)
is it dell 2009w 1680x1050?
but samsung 2333sw 1920x1080. more space
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 4 2009, 01:18 AM)
Guys, sorry but I'm in dilemma of choosing again doh.gif

My friend, a photographer said Dell Ultrasharp series is good for photo editing as it's 16:10 and the contrast ratio is 2000:1 for Dell Ultrasharp 2009W

So, should I get Dell Ultrasharp series but only 20" or Samsung 2333SW ?

Really appreciate once again.
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just my 2cent :

go for better Panel other then TN if you are going to photo editing.
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just my 2cent :

go for better Panel other then TN if you are going to photo editing.
Non-TN panels are quite pricey, example is Apple's 30" Cinema Display.. sweat.gif Anyway I believe Dell has a 22" which uses IPS instead of TN... costs about RM1K+ though.. tongue.gif

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photo editing shud go for ips panels...
dell is selling e-ips which is the cheapest ips panel now


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For me, i'd go for Samsung 2333SW...Coz it's using 16:9 aspect ratio, while Dell Ultrasharp 2009W is 16:10 aspect ratio...
Summore, Samsung 2333SW is newer than Dell Ultrasharp 2009W... smile.gif
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yeah...u will really c the difference in UltraSharp....
but sweat....20" only....
how much is that Ultra Sharp?
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photo editing shud go for ips panels...
dell is selling e-ips which is the cheapest ips panel now
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It is no longer available at DELL's website.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 4 2009, 12:10 AM)
That new Dell 22" is rather good but it's not really available to be ordered or anything. And honestly, I doubt most retailers wouldn't stock premium panels since most people just want it big and cheap.

There's another one from HP, I forgot the model number but it's a 22" and goes for around 2k, could be found in HP's website, naturally.
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I think the HP LCD that u mentioned is the 24 inch-er instead of the 22 inch-er

QUOTE(lex @ Mar 4 2009, 03:43 AM)
Non-TN panels are quite pricey, example is Apple's 30" Cinema Display..  sweat.gif  Anyway I believe Dell has a 22" which uses IPS instead of TN... costs about RM1K+ though..  tongue.gif
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Dell Malaysia removed it from their website already

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I think the HP LCD that u mentioned is the 24 inch-er instead of the 22 inch-er
Dell Malaysia removed it from their website already
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Over here.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=950752&hl=
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hello everyone,

Need help on this, yesterday i bought a HDMI cable for my W2409f. When i turn on everything is ok, but after restart. the bios background turn to green. Then i change the one option in LCD OSD Frm Ypbpr.. to RGB,
then everythings fine. but after i restart the setting go back to Ypbpr...
i have to change it the option in OSD everytime i boot the PC .
is there any way i can make the LCD stay as what i set on the OSD? (not happen when im on DVI)

one more question : which is better rgb & ypbpr


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Dell s2409w promotion RM699 will end on 05/03/2009

then the price will be going up? or the product will be discountinued?
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Dell s2409w promotion RM699 will end on 05/03/2009

then the price will be going up? or the product will be discountinued?
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Won't discontinue so fast la, they just launch it not long ago.
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Mar 4 2009, 12:14 AM)
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22" for 2k? Which model from HP....Im using HP w2228h, it's now seling at RM799...
Maybe that 22" isnt LCD monitor....Is LED monitor i think...
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There's a premium to pay to go for non-TN panel type LCD monitors.
The one i'm referring to is here
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/my/en/sm/WF...71-3648453.html

It's a PVA type. but at 2k, might as well go for the Dell 2408WFP which is a premium panel but cheaper than the HP one. 6 months ago, 2k for a PVA 22" would be alright but this price is so old, i doubt anyone would want to buy it anymore.
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been seeing checking out samsung lcds and intend to get a 22" cause 24" is too expensive.
saw T220 and 2233BW. both of their specs are almost the same except for the response time.
any owners of T220 or 2233BW? can share your thoughts? doe 2ms and 5ms gives a great difference when you play games? pls thelp. thanks =)
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if you dont have budget problems then T220 better lo, higher ms, better design, touch button On/Off some more smile.gif and also got 2 colors
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QUOTE(zizheng @ Mar 4 2009, 05:05 PM)
been seeing checking out samsung lcds and intend to get a 22" cause 24" is too expensive.
saw T220 and 2233BW. both of their specs are almost the same except for the response time.
any owners of T220 or 2233BW? can share your thoughts? doe 2ms and 5ms gives a great difference when you play games? pls thelp. thanks =)
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It's quite hard to notice the difference between 2ms and 5ms. I've had a 8ms (LG brand), and I can notice some ghosting effect while playing RA3, really makes me dizzy. After using 2333SW now, the ghosting is gone, so don't worry about the 5ms/2ms much.

The thing that you should take into consideration is the Contrast Ratio (the higher it is, the better you can see the differences between black and white. 10000:1 or above is really recommended for playing scary games)

Another thing is the color, which is really important for those who use their monitor for entertainment (movie), or graphic designing.

Last thing is the design, depends on your taste. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Bro dell's 24 is not expensive lor.. Check out garage sales..
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thanks for all the feedbacks. i was told 2ms and 5ms got difference when playing games. i guess should be pros ler those. haha~

hmm, dell 24" ?? the color as good as samsung? cause i really like the sharp colors that samsung offers. how much is it? thanks
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QUOTE(zizheng @ Mar 4 2009, 05:55 PM)
thanks for all the feedbacks. i was told 2ms and 5ms got difference when playing games. i guess should be pros ler those. haha~

hmm, dell 24" ?? the color as good as samsung? cause i really like the sharp colors that samsung offers. how much is it? thanks
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Well, im using Dell 2405FPW VA panel.

thinking of getting this Dell s2409w as 2nd lcd but ppl kept on saying TN panels colors are not ideal for gfx/video editing

Anyone got comparison screenshot? or dell 2408wfp and dell s2409w comparison shot?
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help me ..
i want to buy lcd ..
preferably can support hdmi..
i dunno which want is better ..
samsung T240 < -- not affordable in near future ..
dell S2409W
hp w2228
acer h233h
fujitsu 21.5 inch i think .. forgot the model

can anyone suggest me ...

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QUOTE(drapolene @ Mar 4 2009, 07:59 PM)
help me ..
i want to buy lcd ..
preferably can support hdmi..
i dunno which want is better ..
samsung T240 < -- not affordable in near future ..
dell S2409W
hp w2228
acer h233h
fujitsu 21.5 inch i think .. forgot the model

can anyone suggest me ...
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go for DELL. its very cheap for its size and performance. or u could go for acer 23.5''. i forgot the model.
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QUOTE(vinothen @ Mar 4 2009, 08:36 PM)
go for DELL. its very cheap for its size and performance. or u could go for acer 23.5''. i forgot the model.
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That's should be Acer H233HQ biggrin.gif
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for the display to be able to show in HD format ...
should use special HD cable or not ?
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go for Acer H233H rclxms.gif
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no nid, normal dvi / hdmi is more than enough

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 4 2009, 08:38 PM)
That's should be Acer H233HQ biggrin.gif
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Added on March 4, 2009, 9:47 pmanyone knows the dealer thread? sell very cheap 24'' dell monitor. his name starts with something like stupidlicity..?? i am not sure the name is. pls post the thread link here pls if u know the link.

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is the ACER "H233H A" a revision or same as H233H as advertised?
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QUOTE(valent @ Mar 4 2009, 06:28 PM)
Well, im using Dell 2405FPW VA panel.

thinking of getting this Dell s2409w as 2nd lcd but ppl kept on saying TN panels colors are not ideal for gfx/video editing

Anyone got comparison screenshot? or dell 2408wfp and dell s2409w comparison shot?
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QUOTE(vinothen @ Mar 4 2009, 09:45 PM)
yeah. Acer H233H A


Added on March 4, 2009, 9:47 pmanyone knows the dealer thread? sell very cheap 24'' dell monitor. his name starts with something like stupidlicity..?? i am not sure the name is. pls post the thread link here pls if u know the link.
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Why bother buying a Dell S2409 when u can get the Viewsonic VX2433, which is waaay better than the Dell? The Dell may be cheap, but the specs certainly doesn't justify the price... laugh.gif
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wah, my topic hilang and moved here. i was looking high and low for it! haha!
hmm, how do we know that that any 22" supports full HD? will be written? cause i was hoping either t220 or 2233BW will be full HD =(
sorry le, very new in this.
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wah, my topic hilang and moved here. i was looking high and low for it! haha!
hmm, how do we know that that any 22" supports full HD? will be written? cause i was hoping either t220 or 2233BW will be full HD =(
sorry le, very new in this.
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Check the specs of course! laugh.gif Check our the Viewsonic VX2260 bro, RM635 and it's got Full HD and HDMI summore... thumbup.gif
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Why bother buying a Dell S2409 when u can get the Viewsonic VX2433, which is waaay better than the Dell? The Dell may be cheap, but the specs certainly doesn't justify the price... laugh.gif
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Hey dude. Stop advertising the stuff you sell. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif Viewsonic LCDs are crap la! Do not get them!i have 2 units before and both have dead pixels and died after 2 yrs of usage. send back for warranty, the viewsonic store people look at me rudely and scream, as though i did something wrong, waited for 3 months to RMA. getting Viewsonic is suicide, if wanna get also don't get from kingcom. he's nothing like those typical lowyat store ah beng salesman that judge a product without facts... doh.gif shakehead.gif Viewsonic better than dell?? Prove it. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Mar 4 2009, 10:14 PM)
Hey dude. Stop advertising the stuff you sell. doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif Viewsonic LCDs are crap la! Do not get them!i have 2 units before and both have dead pixels and died after 2 yrs of usage. send back for warranty, the viewsonic store people look at me rudely and scream, as though i did something wrong, waited for 3 months to RMA. getting Viewsonic is suicide, if wanna get also don't get from kingcom. he's nothing like those typical lowyat store ah beng salesman that judge a product without facts...  doh.gif  shakehead.gif Viewsonic better than dell?? Prove it.
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lol. well said. dell is considered international and well known. besides that. it can be trusted. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Mar 4 2009, 10:14 PM)
Hey dude. Stop advertising the stuff you sell. doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif Viewsonic LCDs are crap la! Do not get them!i have 2 units before and both have dead pixels and died after 2 yrs of usage. send back for warranty, the viewsonic store people look at me rudely and scream, as though i did something wrong, waited for 3 months to RMA. getting Viewsonic is suicide, if wanna get also don't get from kingcom. he's nothing like those typical lowyat store ah beng salesman that judge a product without facts...  doh.gif  shakehead.gif Viewsonic better than dell?? Prove it.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Mind you, I'm listing true facts here. And no, I'm not those "lowyat ah beng". I can also say that I got a Dell, and I got 50 dead pixels on it bro, you got a lousy Viewsonic? Well, I feel very, very sorry for you. laugh.gif Check my successful tradelist, and look at the number of Viewsonics I've sold.

PM the fellas who bought it, and they'll tell you that Viewsonic rawks. thumbup.gif Anyway, the Viewsonics all come with a 3-Year warranty, and comparatively it's cheaper too. Furthermore, whoever buys from me get FREE HDMI cables - the good quality ones of course.

P.S. I didn't know I was rude and screamy.
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QUOTE(kingcom @ Mar 4 2009, 10:31 PM)
Mind you, I'm listing true facts here. And no, I'm not those "lowyat ah beng". I can also say that I got a Dell, and I got 50 dead pixels on it bro, you got a lousy Viewsonic? Well, I feel very, very sorry for you. laugh.gif Check my successful tradelist, and look at the number of Viewsonics I've sold.

PM the fellas who bought it, and they'll tell you that Viewsonic rawks. thumbup.gif Anyway, the Viewsonics all come with a 3-Year warranty, and comparatively it's cheaper too. Furthermore, whoever buys from me get FREE HDMI cables - the good quality ones of course.

P.S. I didn't know I was rude and screamy.
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No offence bro but let me share with you what I think.

DELL S2409W and Viewsonic VX2433wm will look the same because both has same spec. Both TN panel, both has a typical contrast ratio of 1000:1 (forget about dynamic contrast ratio), brightness of 300 cd/m2, viewing angle are the same & response time of Viewsonic is slightly lower. Of course Viewsonic comes with integrated speakers as well.

IMHO contrast ratio is the most important when selecting any LCD. You can forget about response time because there aren't any standard in measuring it. Manufacture can say 1ms or 0ms and there's no way we can measure it accurately. Even my old 16ms S-IPS panel 2007WFP is ghosting free, even with fast paced game.

So, the Viewsonic costs RM888 from you. Dell costs RM585 from forum sellers. A difference of RM300. Does that extra RM300 justify for the extra integrated speakers? Warranty wise, DELL offers 3 yrs 1 to 1 doorstep swap. Let's say today my Dell LCD screwed up, I gave Dell RMA hotline a call, the next working day they send me a replacement to my doorstep, 1 to 1 swap. Does Viewsonic 3 yrs warranty covers doorstep warranty as well? I don't think so. If you bring it back to RMA, I'm pretty sure you have to wait as well.

And from my personal experience, S2409W has less backlight bleed compared to VX2433wm. So when you say Viewsonic is wayyyyyyyyy better than Dell, do you mean the integrated speakers? And when you say the spec of Dell doesn't justify with the cheap price Dell offered, may I know which spec are you referring to? Dynamic contrast ratio? I think most of us know that's not something you look at when purchasing LCD, it's the typical contrast ratio that matters.

Cheers!


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QUOTE(kingcom @ Mar 4 2009, 10:31 PM)
Mind you, I'm listing true facts here. And no, I'm not those "lowyat ah beng". I can also say that I got a Dell, and I got 50 dead pixels on it bro, you got a lousy Viewsonic? Well, I feel very, very sorry for you. laugh.gif Check my successful tradelist, and look at the number of Viewsonics I've sold.

PM the fellas who bought it, and they'll tell you that Viewsonic rawks. thumbup.gif Anyway, the Viewsonics all come with a 3-Year warranty, and comparatively it's cheaper too. Furthermore, whoever buys from me get FREE HDMI cables - the good quality ones of course.

P.S. I didn't know I was rude and screamy.
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Mine only comes with 1 yr waranty and but so far works fine.Viewsonic VX2235WM,proud user here. smile.gif To be fair every products wold have their own defects units,depends on luck lor.Only we may say the % of defects only,even samsung panels also got such problems.


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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 4 2009, 11:12 PM)
No offence bro but let me share with you what I think.

DELL S2409W and Viewsonic VX2433wm will look the same because both has same spec. Both TN panel, both has a typical contrast ratio of 1000:1 (forget about dynamic contrast ratio), brightness of 300 cd/m2, viewing angle are the same & response time of Viewsonic is slightly lower. Of course Viewsonic comes with integrated speakers as well.

IMHO contrast ratio is the most important when selecting any LCD. You can forget about response time because there aren't any standard in measuring it. Manufacture can say 1ms or 0ms and there's no way we can measure it accurately. Even my old 16ms S-IPS panel 2007WFP is ghosting free, even with fast paced game.

So, the Viewsonic costs RM888 from you. Dell costs RM585 from forum sellers. A difference of RM300. Does that extra RM300 justify for the extra integrated speakers? Warranty wise, DELL offers 3 yrs 1 to 1 doorstep swap. Let's say today my Dell LCD screwed up, I gave Dell RMA hotline a call, the next working day they send me a replacement to my doorstep, 1 to 1 swap. Does Viewsonic 3 yrs warranty covers doorstep warranty as well? I don't think so. If you bring it back to RMA, I'm pretty sure you have to wait as well.

And from my personal experience, S2409W has less backlight bleed compared to VX2433wm. So when you say Viewsonic is wayyyyyyyyy better than Dell, do you mean the integrated speakers? And when you say the spec of Dell doesn't justify with the cheap price Dell offered, may I know which spec are you referring to? Dynamic contrast ratio? I think most of us know that's not something you look at when purchasing LCD, it's the typical contrast ratio that matters.

Cheers!
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You have to bear in mind that your comparison must be equivalent,for instance,both brands are @ forumer price?Or one of them is retail and another is forumer's price?It's not accurate if you compare so,let's talk about retail price.


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Damn, those e-IPS panel just rapes TN apart lol..

your asus has got backlightbleed, maybe s2409w doesn't have em that bad..

anyway thanks!

dammit e-IPS panel damn nice.. too bad msia dell doesnt carry em.

btw, where did you get your DELL 2209WA ?
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QUOTE(kingcom @ Mar 4 2009, 10:31 PM)
Mind you, I'm listing true facts here. And no, I'm not those "lowyat ah beng". I can also say that I got a Dell, and I got 50 dead pixels on it bro, you got a lousy Viewsonic? Well, I feel very, very sorry for you. laugh.gif Check my successful tradelist, and look at the number of Viewsonics I've sold.

PM the fellas who bought it, and they'll tell you that Viewsonic rawks. thumbup.gif Anyway, the Viewsonics all come with a 3-Year warranty, and comparatively it's cheaper too. Furthermore, whoever buys from me get FREE HDMI cables - the good quality ones of course.

P.S. I didn't know I was rude and screamy.
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lolz do u need to be so desperate meh?if viewsonic rawks so much,you no need to come here advertise every hour la. duh! doh.gif
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Hello, is it possible for you guys/gals to help me find a suitable LCD monitor?

Budget: STRICTLY not more than RM520
Brand: I prefer Samsung but any brand is possible with a reasonable price.
Warranty: AT LEAST must have 3 years warranty.
Resolution: Full HD is the best, but 16:10 or other 16:9 models are also acceptable if the price is reasonable.

Thanks a lot for the help. smile.gif

EDIT: Plus please is 20" or more.

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QUOTE(minghao @ Mar 4 2009, 11:16 PM)
Mine only comes with 1 yr waranty and but so far works fine.Viewsonic VX2235WM,proud user here. smile.gif To be fair every products wold have their own defects units,depends on luck lor.Only we may say the % of defects only,even samsung panels also got such problems.


Added on March 4, 2009, 11:18 pmYou have to bear in mind that your comparison must be equivalent,for instance,both brands are @ forumer price?Or one of them is retail and another is forumer's price?It's not accurate if you compare so,let's talk about retail price.
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My comparison is rigid. Both are lowyat.net garage sales prices. Unless you can find Viewsonic's retail price, then we shall compare RM699 retail price of DELL vs RM??? retail price of Viewsonic.

Even if you want to compare retail price of DELL RM699 with lowyat.net's price of RM888, no problem. DELL is still cheaper by RM189. With that, you get a good 2.1 speaker, how's that?
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QUOTE(valent @ Mar 4 2009, 11:20 PM)
Damn, those e-IPS panel just rapes TN apart lol..

your asus has got backlightbleed, maybe s2409w doesn't have em that bad..

anyway thanks!

dammit e-IPS panel damn nice.. too bad msia dell doesnt carry em.

btw, where did you get your DELL 2209WA ?
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Dude, I get it from DELL's website last month. It was there but no idea why they took it down.
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Hello, is it possible for you guys/gals to help me find a suitable LCD monitor?

Budget: STRICTLY not more than RM520
Brand: I prefer Samsung but any brand is possible with a reasonable price.
Warranty: AT LEAST must have 3 years warranty.
Resolution: Full HD is the best, but 16:10 or other 16:9 models are also acceptable if the price is reasonable.

Thanks a lot for the help. smile.gif

EDIT: Plus please is 20" or more.
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below 520? mostly samsung 2033sw(16:9) ba if u like prefer samsung brows.gif
by the way dell 20"(16:10)ultra sharp also no bad. RM47x

other brand i no sure... Just a little help and own opinion nod.gif
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QUOTE(minghao @ Mar 4 2009, 11:16 PM)
Mine only comes with 1 yr waranty and but so far works fine.Viewsonic VX2235WM,proud user here. smile.gif To be fair every products wold have their own defects units,depends on luck lor.Only we may say the % of defects only,even samsung panels also got such problems.


Added on March 4, 2009, 11:18 pmYou have to bear in mind that your comparison must be equivalent,for instance,both brands are @ forumer price?Or one of them is retail and another is forumer's price?It's not accurate if you compare so,let's talk about retail price.
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everyone knows dell s2409 is the best value for money right now,no need to debate anymore. doh.gif look at garage sales enough la, how many units sold? i think more than 400 units whistling.gif how many went and buy viewsonic?i think my finger also can count. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Mar 4 2009, 11:35 PM)
below 520? mostly samsung 2033sw(16:9) ba if u like prefer samsung  brows.gif
by the way dell 20"(16:10)ultra sharp also no bad. RM47x

other brand i no sure... Just a little help and own opinion  nod.gif
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Thank you very much for the suggestion! Btw, dell 20" is what model? laugh.gif
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Thank you very much for the suggestion! Btw, dell 20" is what model?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kingcom @ Mar 4 2009, 10:31 PM)
Mind you, I'm listing true facts here. And no, I'm not those "lowyat ah beng". I can also say that I got a Dell, and I got 50 dead pixels on it bro, you got a lousy Viewsonic? Well, I feel very, very sorry for you. laugh.gif Check my successful tradelist, and look at the number of Viewsonics I've sold.

PM the fellas who bought it, and they'll tell you that Viewsonic rawks. thumbup.gif Anyway, the Viewsonics all come with a 3-Year warranty, and comparatively it's cheaper too. Furthermore, whoever buys from me get FREE HDMI cables - the good quality ones of course.

P.S. I didn't know I was rude and screamy.
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bravo!!! you sold 15 units of viewsonic!!!!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif compared to 200++ units of dell sold at garage sales, and still selling now.until out of stock ppl have to queue whistling.gif

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Thank you very much for the suggestion! Btw, dell 20" is what model?  laugh.gif
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See Dell ultra sharp 2009W

Here you go. I also plan to buy that since for me 20" is big enough for me. quite cheap too.( Actually is me no $ icon_question.gif )
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QUOTE(kingcom @ Mar 4 2009, 11:31 PM)
Mind you, I'm listing true facts here. And no, I'm not those "lowyat ah beng". I can also say that I got a Dell, and I got 50 dead pixels on it bro, you got a lousy Viewsonic? Well, I feel very, very sorry for you. laugh.gif Check my successful tradelist, and look at the number of Viewsonics I've sold.

PM the fellas who bought it, and they'll tell you that Viewsonic rawks. thumbup.gif Anyway, the Viewsonics all come with a 3-Year warranty, and comparatively it's cheaper too. Furthermore, whoever buys from me get FREE HDMI cables - the good quality ones of course.

P.S. I didn't know I was rude and screamy.
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http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...en&s=dhs&~ck=mn

Here got 20" 16:9 version.

AFAIK, play HD content on 16:9 will not have black bars, 16:10 will have black bars, but can be used to play subtitles no?

And I saw the Dell Monitor say has USB 2.0 ports, what is it for?
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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 4 2009, 11:46 PM)
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...en&s=dhs&~ck=mn

Here got 20" 16:9 version.

AFAIK, play HD content on 16:9 will not have black bars, 16:10 will have black bars, but can be used to play subtitles no?

And I saw the Dell Monitor say has USB 2.0 ports, what is it for?
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Black bars or no black bars depends on your movie ratio. If you movie's aspect ratio is anything above 1.78:1, both 16:9 and 16:10 will have black bars. Just that with 16:9 the black bars will be thinner. Most movies are in 1.85:1 and 2.39:1 ratio.
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 4 2009, 11:50 PM)
Black bars or no black bars depends on your movie ratio. If you movie's aspect ratio is anything above 1.78:1, both 16:9 and 16:10 will have black bars. Just that with 16:9 the black bars will be thinner. Most movies are in 1.85:1 and 2.39:1 ratio.
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Hmm I see. I think Dell E2009W is a better choice with 16:10 ratio even though I use it to watch movies. The black bars could be used as space for subtitles. Plus, I've seen Acer X203H before, 16:9 a bit too rectangle lol.

I see that Dell website selling at really great price. Is there any catch or trap? Like no DVI cable? Need pay extra?

Is there anywhere else that sells this model at a lower price? Can't find one in LYN.
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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 4 2009, 11:54 PM)
Hmm I see. I think Dell E2009W is a better choice with 16:10 ratio even though I use it to watch movies. The black bars could be used as space for subtitles. Plus, I've seen Acer X203H before, 16:9 a bit too rectangle lol.

I see that Dell website selling at really great price. Is there any catch or trap? Like no DVI cable? Need pay extra?

Is there anywhere else that sells this model at a lower price? Can't find one in LYN.
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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 4 2009, 11:54 PM)
Hmm I see. I think Dell E2009W is a better choice with 16:10 ratio even though I use it to watch movies. The black bars could be used as space for subtitles. Plus, I've seen Acer X203H before, 16:9 a bit too rectangle lol.

I see that Dell website selling at really great price. Is there any catch or trap? Like no DVI cable? Need pay extra?

Is there anywhere else that sells this model at a lower price? Can't find one in LYN.
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I've deicded to buy Dell UltraSharp™ 2009W 20" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor

But it's kinda hard to find it, anybody knows where to find?

Is there like Dell authorised store that sells the item at around the same price as advertised in the website?

Dell's warranty service does it include coming to your doorstep and take and fix and send it back to your house?

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QUOTE(minghao @ Mar 4 2009, 11:16 PM)
Mine only comes with 1 yr waranty and but so far works fine.Viewsonic VX2235WM,proud user here. smile.gif To be fair every products wold have their own defects units,depends on luck lor.Only we may say the % of defects only,even samsung panels also got such problems.


Added on March 4, 2009, 11:18 pmYou have to bear in mind that your comparison must be equivalent,for instance,both brands are @ forumer price?Or one of them is retail and another is forumer's price?It's not accurate if you compare so,let's talk about retail price.
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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 4 2009, 11:46 PM)
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...en&s=dhs&~ck=mn

Here got 20" 16:9 version.

AFAIK, play HD content on 16:9 will not have black bars, 16:10 will have black bars, but can be used to play subtitles no?

And I saw the Dell Monitor say has USB 2.0 ports, what is it for?
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Mar 4 2009, 11:43 PM)
If compare ViewSonic & Samsung, I sure pick ViewSonic 1st choice Samsung 2nd choice. Dell??? Only the premium panels are good, of coz u pay for premium price!! Serivices i don really care bout it whistling.gif
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My simple way to choosing any lcd panel, be it price or display quality, is test it first hand, if he or she feels the quality suits them, whatever defects other might notice ,it doesnt matter, as long as user is comfortable to them. simple. see it , test it, if its looks fine with u, and within budget, just buy it and live with it on my book,

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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 5 2009, 12:04 AM)
I've deicded to buy Dell UltraSharp™ 2009W 20" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor

But it's kinda hard to find it, anybody knows where to find?

Is there like Dell authorised store that sells the item at around the same price as advertised in the website?

Dell's warranty service does it include coming to your doorstep and take and fix and send it back to your house?
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U can juz order from the website...Ya, they will send to ur doorstep...But im not sure about LCD monitor, but they did this service to my housemate when he bought his dell laptop...
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i've seen the 24 inches dell lcd for rm600 in garage sales for a long time... it is a good buy? i'm not sure if dell's lcd are long lasting
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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Mar 5 2009, 08:12 AM)
i've seen the 24 inches dell lcd for rm600 in garage sales for a long time... it is a good buy? i'm not sure if dell's lcd are long lasting
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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Mar 5 2009, 08:12 AM)
i've seen the 24 inches dell lcd for rm600 in garage sales for a long time... it is a good buy? i'm not sure if dell's lcd are long lasting
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any recommended shop in lowyat ?
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Why don't you just go to the top floor and buy from Dell?
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Dell also has a shop at MidValley Megamall where you can see all the monitors in action before buying...
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is there anywhere we can compare a Samsung T220 and a DELL S2409W 24-inch side by side? lowyat got? want to see the color difference =)
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is there anywhere we can compare a Samsung T220 and a DELL S2409W 24-inch side by side? lowyat got? want to see the color difference =)
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When both are TN panel, I don't think there will be much difference. Remember to reset the color profile to factory default before comparing. The shop might set it to dynamic contrast which is insanely bright and the color gamut is usually too high.
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Mar 5 2009, 12:41 PM)
lowyat only got T220. never saw s2409 there. but IMO the colour pretty mush the same biggrin.gif
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Just a noob question from newbie.

I will be buying LCD to connect to my laptop. As I know, I can spli the screen right ? Because I tested it with project so it should work the same when I connect it to LCD right ? Meaning I want it maybe 1 screen to have my office working, another for entertainment purpose.
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Just a noob question from newbie.

I will be buying LCD to connect to my laptop. As I know, I can spli the screen right ? Because I tested it with project so it should work the same when I connect it to LCD right ? Meaning I want it maybe 1 screen to have my office working, another for entertainment purpose.
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I interested to buy the Dell UltraSharp 2007FP.

I would like to know is the Screen type is those reflective type or non-reflective types ?

I know reflective type can make watching movies more nice, but i mainly use for graphics.

Can confirm on these ?

Thanks
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 4 2009, 11:12 PM)
No offence bro but let me share with you what I think.

DELL S2409W and Viewsonic VX2433wm will look the same because both has same spec. Both TN panel, both has a typical contrast ratio of 1000:1 (forget about dynamic contrast ratio), brightness of 300 cd/m2, viewing angle are the same & response time of Viewsonic is slightly lower. Of course Viewsonic comes with integrated speakers as well.

IMHO contrast ratio is the most important when selecting any LCD. You can forget about response time because there aren't any standard in measuring it. Manufacture can say 1ms or 0ms and there's no way we can measure it accurately. Even my old 16ms S-IPS panel 2007WFP is ghosting free, even with fast paced game.

So, the Viewsonic costs RM888 from you. Dell costs RM585 from forum sellers. A difference of RM300. Does that extra RM300 justify for the extra integrated speakers? Warranty wise, DELL offers 3 yrs 1 to 1 doorstep swap. Let's say today my Dell LCD screwed up, I gave Dell RMA hotline a call, the next working day they send me a replacement to my doorstep, 1 to 1 swap. Does Viewsonic 3 yrs warranty covers doorstep warranty as well? I don't think so. If you bring it back to RMA, I'm pretty sure you have to wait as well.

And from my personal experience, S2409W has less backlight bleed compared to VX2433wm. So when you say Viewsonic is wayyyyyyyyy better than Dell, do you mean the integrated speakers? And when you say the spec of Dell doesn't justify with the cheap price Dell offered, may I know which spec are you referring to? Dynamic contrast ratio? I think most of us know that's not something you look at when purchasing LCD, it's the typical contrast ratio that matters.

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well said...!!! RM300 extra? i better go for dell. i mean...come on...DELL vs Viewsonic? kindargarten pupils will also choose dell... sweat.gif


Added on March 5, 2009, 8:41 pmjust for the speakers ur paying extra RM300? that seriously dont justify the price...

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QUOTE(vinothen @ Mar 5 2009, 08:39 PM)
well said...!!! RM300 extra? i better go for dell. i mean...come on...DELL vs Viewsonic? kindargarten pupils will also choose dell... sweat.gif


Added on March 5, 2009, 8:41 pmjust for the speakers ur paying extra RM300? that seriously dont justify the price...
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Mar 5 2009, 08:42 PM)
hahahahahaha so funny la the kingcom straightaway diam,nothing to say liao.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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yeah. u want to promote ur product ... promote in ur own thread. some people bought the dell for RM700 then another guy come and say the product sucks..!! i mean...its not right for the buyers.. vmad.gif
p/s: i don't own a dell lcd.


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QUOTE(Barricade @ Mar 4 2009, 11:59 PM)
aiyo dun go and buy acer lcd lo pls, don't buy anything from acer  rclxub.gif
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why not acer? u have any bad exp with acer? pls share ur exp with us.

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Mar 4 2009, 11:59 PM)
aiyo dun go and buy acer lcd lo pls, don't buy anything from acer  rclxub.gif
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intrested at ur experience also
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QUOTE(vinothen @ Mar 5 2009, 08:48 PM)
yeah. u want to promote ur product ... promote in ur own thread. some people bought the dell for RM700 then another guy come and say the product sucks..!! i mean...its not right for the buyers.. vmad.gif
p/s: i don't own a dell lcd.


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why not acer? u have any bad exp with acer? pls share ur exp with us.
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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Mar 5 2009, 08:56 PM)
intrested at ur experience also
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i work at this company where i am the in the purchasing department, so i ordered 20 units of acer lcd last year, i was 20" widescreen forgotten the model already. then all using it after around 6-7 month,almost half got problem - either dead pixels appear or screen flickers out of a sudden, in the end all send back to factory rma. then all change to hp lcd, no problem so far doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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So far i havent heard any complaint for Acer lcd monitor...But most of my fren complaint about Acer laptop.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Mar 5 2009, 09:09 PM)
i work at this company where i am the in the purchasing department, so i ordered 20 units of acer lcd last year, i was 20" widescreen forgotten the model already. then all using it after around 6-7 month,almost half got problem - either dead pixels appear or screen flickers out of a sudden, in the end all send back to factory rma. then all change to hp lcd, no problem so far doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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any one can suggest what is the best hdmi cable for 2409W...recently i bought chap ayam hdmi at RM40.00 screen appear at green and red...but after change to dvi cable all back to normal...not asking for RM300 hdmi cable price...but at least can use on my current lcd...
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QUOTE(myee @ Mar 5 2009, 10:24 PM)
any one can suggest what is the best hdmi cable for 2409W...recently i bought chap ayam hdmi at RM40.00 screen appear at green and red...but after change to dvi cable all back to normal...not asking for RM300 hdmi cable price...but at least can use on my current lcd...
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I think this one should be no problem... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...2&hl=hdmi+cable
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QUOTE(myee @ Mar 5 2009, 10:24 PM)
any one can suggest what is the best hdmi cable for 2409W...recently i bought chap ayam hdmi at RM40.00 screen appear at green and red...but after change to dvi cable all back to normal...not asking for RM300 hdmi cable price...but at least can use on my current lcd...
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Bro, expensive or cheap HDMI cable makes no difference. I use cap ayam RM20 HDMI cable for all my setups and no problem. Get them from www.play-asia.com Free shipping to Malaysia. Your case might be faulty HDMI cable or faulty HDMI slot.
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 5 2009, 10:44 PM)
Bro, expensive or cheap HDMI cable makes no difference. I use cap ayam RM20 HDMI cable for all my setups and no problem. Get them from www.play-asia.com Free shipping to Malaysia. Your case might be faulty HDMI cable or faulty HDMI slot.
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Mar 5 2009, 10:29 PM)
I think this one should be no problem... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...2&hl=hdmi+cable
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tq bro...it look affordable for me tongue.gif

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@myee
Juz wanna ask..
Other than audio signal...Any diff between using HDMI cable and DVI cable?

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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Mar 5 2009, 05:12 PM)
I interested to buy the Dell UltraSharp 2007FP.

I would like to know is the Screen type is those reflective type or non-reflective types ?

I know reflective type can make watching movies more nice, but i mainly use for graphics.

Can confirm on these ?

Thanks
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I'm one of the Dell 2007wfp user here..
the 2007wfp is non-reflective types... just like normal lcd screen...
But you won't regret after u brought this LCD...
This dell 2007wfp is the best LCD panel.... rclxm9.gif
It a S-IPS panel and not those TN panel in the market...

Is it now still can get any S-IPS panel or better panel LCD in market?
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Went to lowyat and saw the samsung T240, loved it
wanted to see the dell 2409 too but no avail
anywhere in lowyat/anywhere where i can see the S2409w?
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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Mar 6 2009, 02:19 AM)
I'm one of the Dell 2007wfp user here..
the 2007wfp is non-reflective types... just like normal lcd screen...
But you won't regret after u brought this LCD...
This dell 2007wfp is the best LCD panel.... rclxm9.gif
It a S-IPS panel and not those TN panel in the market...

Is it now still can get any S-IPS panel or better panel LCD in market?
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Thanks,

I looking the the Non-Widescreen one = Dell 2007FP

I think it should be Non-Reflective like yours (2007WFP)

How long have u've been using ? U mainly use for Graphics too ?

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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:14 PM)
@myee
Juz wanna ask..
Other than audio signal...Any diff between using HDMI cable and DVI cable?
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that i oso need to know...that why i wanted to use hdmi cable and wanna experiance what is the good about hdmi cable tongue.gif
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Dell s2409w has extended their promotion offer

12/03/2009 - end date

lol.. im sure they won't increase anymore..
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Hi guys, what is the best software to detect dead pixel ?

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 6 2009, 08:51 AM)
Refer first post.
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QUOTE(myee @ Mar 6 2009, 05:58 AM)
that i oso need to know...that why i wanted to use hdmi cable and wanna experiance what is the good about hdmi cable tongue.gif
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me too wanna know.. I use Dell S2409 and i wondering if there any diff between HDMI cable and DVI cable performance. dont say extra audio cuz the S2409 din has audio output biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(valent @ Mar 6 2009, 08:06 AM)
Dell s2409w has extended their promotion offer

12/03/2009 - end date

lol.. im sure they won't increase anymore..
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Mar 6 2009, 09:23 AM)
me too wanna know.. I use Dell S2409 and i wondering if there any diff between HDMI cable and DVI cable performance. dont say extra audio cuz the S2409 din has audio output biggrin.gif
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S2409W do have Audio Output.....check ur S2409W again....it's beside DVI input there.....which is kind of inside so maybe u din noticed it....

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If not mistaken the audio out is meant for HDMI right? Is about the dell s2409w
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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Mar 6 2009, 03:01 AM)
Thanks,

I looking the the Non-Widescreen one = Dell 2007FP

I think it should be Non-Reflective like yours (2007WFP)

How long have u've been using ? U mainly use for Graphics too ?

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Good service for Dell... exchange basic!
When 2nd time RMA, the dell replaced the new 2009wfp and after used for few days,
i call back the dell and request to change back to my current 2007wfp...
Bcos the 2009wfp is TN panel and is not good to watch movie and color is not as nice as my 2007wfp...
So, Dell again change back 2007wfp to me....
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Hi guys, need your opinion. other than the size, which LCD is a better choice SAMSUNG 2333sw vs VIEWSONIC VX2260WM? thanks
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S2409W do have Audio Output.....check ur S2409W again....it's beside DVI input there.....which is kind of inside so maybe u din noticed it....
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Hi guys, need your opinion. other than the size, which LCD is a better choice SAMSUNG 2333sw vs VIEWSONIC VX2260WM? thanks
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If I were you, I will be getting Samsung 2333SW
By the way, I'm getting that too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Mar 6 2009, 02:19 AM)
I'm one of the Dell 2007wfp user here..
the 2007wfp is non-reflective types... just like normal lcd screen...
But you won't regret after u brought this LCD...
This dell 2007wfp is the best LCD panel.... rclxm9.gif
It a S-IPS panel and not those TN panel in the market...

Is it now still can get any S-IPS panel or better panel LCD in market?
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The best for this moment.
http://h20331.www2.hp.com/hpsub/cache/5968...-0-225-121.html

S-IPS is still a step back than H-IPS you can find in Malaysia market.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF...=reg_R1002_USEN

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Juz checked Dell website this morning and ohmy.gif shocking.gif The price of Ultrasharp 2709W now only RM2299. If i not mistaken, 2 days ago the price was RM2699... Hmm.. Should i wait a bit longer for more reduce price or maybe the price of 3008wfp oso will be reduced within the nex 2-3 week?? hmm.gif Read from several forum that the price of 3008wfp is decreasing. Rumours said Dell will come out a new model of 30" monitor. Dunno true or not.. If the trend continues, i.e the lower the price goes plus 3 years warranty, it's gonna kill those ARB market for sure. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Mar 6 2009, 10:24 AM)
I been using almost 3 years and RMA for twice....
Good service for Dell... exchange basic!
When 2nd time RMA, the dell replaced the new 2009wfp and after used for few days,
i call back the dell and request to change back to my current 2007wfp...
Bcos the 2009wfp is TN panel and is not good to watch movie and color is not as nice as my 2007wfp...
So, Dell again change back 2007wfp to me....
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What happen to your 1st RMA ? Can share ?


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Hi,
The best for this moment.
http://h20331.www2.hp.com/hpsub/cache/5968...-0-225-121.html

S-IPS is still a step back than H-IPS you can find in Malaysia market.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF...=reg_R1002_USEN
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This HP IPS Model is very expensive for me, around RM2,000++
Got sell in Low Yat ?

What's main difference with these S-IPS & H-IPS ?

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Did anyone see the BIGGEST Non-WideScreen Monitor ? Please let me know.

At least has this;
- VA or IPS Panel & above
- DVI
- Non-Reflective Screen Type.

I only know this;

Dell UltraSharp 2007FP

Please let me know others if you can find.
Thanks.

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How to make the screen go vertical? For Dell's ultrasharps
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Wow, many compliments of Dell Service. So good.

What happen to your 1st RMA ? Can share ?


Added on March 6, 2009, 3:31 pm

This HP IPS Model is very expensive for me, around RM2,000++
Got sell in Low Yat ?

What's main difference with these S-IPS & H-IPS ?
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Hopefully this website can help you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD.
I have asked before but non of the members in here can tell me where I can get. I got it from some one.

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Can someone tell me about the Dell Monitor ? Especially the Dell UltraSharp 2007FP or similar stand ?

How LOW the height can the monitor go ? (Measure from the bottom frame to our desk)

And, do this Dell UltraSharp 2007FP has its optional Soundbar ? What model no. ?

Thanks.
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How to make the screen go vertical? For Dell's ultrasharps
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How to make the screen go vertical? For Dell's ultrasharps
QUOTE(valho @ Mar 6 2009, 05:30 PM)
just rotate it clockwise
Most display card drivers (ATI/NVIDIA/Intel) allow you ro rotate the display after the phyical rotation. Unlike some manufacturers, Dell monitors do not have a switch or a vertical sensor to send the signal for software/drivers to auto-rotate the display for you...
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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Mar 6 2009, 03:28 PM)
Wow, many compliments of Dell Service. So good.

What happen to your 1st RMA ? Can share ?


Added on March 6, 2009, 3:31 pm

This HP IPS Model is very expensive for me, around RM2,000++
Got sell in Low Yat ?

What's main difference with these S-IPS & H-IPS ?
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Visually, nothing much. The only difference is the pixel structure and slightly higher contrast ratio. If you're really into IPS panel, get the one with Advanced True Wide Polarizer. It will gives you a better black level and non of the purplish hue when viewing at certain angle. NEC LCD2690WUXi for example. One of the best you can buy. Around 1.1k USD, 25.5 incher.
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 6 2009, 07:29 PM)
Most display card drivers (ATI/NVIDIA/Intel) allow you ro rotate the display after the phyical rotation. Unlike some manufacturers, Dell monitors do not have a switch or a vertical sensor to send the signal for software/drivers to auto-rotate the display for you...
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i just wan to know forumer opinion. i buy 2nd hand monitor.price is rm300 model samsung 940sw.it is worth it?
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i just wan to know forumer opinion. i buy 2nd hand monitor.price is rm300 model samsung 940sw.it is worth it?
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oo.ok.so how much is a bit.like reaching rm100 or just a few rm? hahaha i really need to ask from pro before making any decision. my friend also warn me to wait a few month buying this lcd. i buy this monitor around dec last year
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Hi guys, one guy selling this monitor:

LG W2242T 22" Wide TFT LCD Monitor with DVI
• Resolution: 1680 x 1050
• Pixel Pitch: 0.282 x 0.282
• Brightness: 300cd/㎡
• Contrast Ratio: 8000:1 DFC
• Viewing Angle: H:170° V:170° (CR≥5)
• Response Time: 5ms (Typical)
• Connectors: 15Pin D-Sub, DVI-D
• 3 Years Limited Warranty.
• Glossy Black Piano Frame.
• FREE DVI Cable.

It is used for half a year means warranty got 2 and a half years more. The price is only RM450. But I'm considering this with Dell UltraSharp™ 2009W 20" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor brand new from dell is around RM480.

So comparing these 2, which is the best choice in terms of value for money?

Thank you very much in advance yea.
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@xcen
For me, i would choose LG W2242T...I'd prefer bigger screen and this LG still have 2 and half year warranty left, summore 30 buck cheaper than Dell 2009W (off course it's new)...Both of them only diff in size...
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Mar 7 2009, 02:53 AM)
@xcen
For me, i would choose LG W2242T...I'd prefer bigger screen and this LG still have 2 and half year warranty left, summore 30 buck cheaper than Dell 2009W (off course it's new)...Both of them only diff in size...
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keep it on~ =D

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QUOTE(Devilisation @ Mar 7 2009, 05:28 AM)
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Added on March 7, 2009, 5:29 amGrats the V6 ^^

keep it on~ =D
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No la... Juz sharing my experience here... smile.gif
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hmm. how old are u wor?
but you really know alot of things!


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QUOTE(DAViS @ Mar 6 2009, 12:32 PM)
Hi,
The best for this moment.
http://h20331.www2.hp.com/hpsub/cache/5968...-0-225-121.html

S-IPS is still a step back than H-IPS you can find in Malaysia market.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF...=reg_R1002_USEN
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Interesting models, it is both already available in the market? unsure.gif

P/S: I'm sorry if I missed any earlier posts that mentioning about these models.
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Interesting models, it is both already available in the market? unsure.gif

P/S: I'm sorry if I missed any earlier posts that mentioning about these models.
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Both are available in the market. If you intend to get the first one that I have listed, you must have a graphics card that able support DisplayPort and also a graphics card design for CAD/CAM/Designer use. Our normal graphics card does not gain advantage to it but rumours said HD48xx can support.
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hey, what do you peeps think about the samsung t220? will it be a good buy cause i'm getting it on monday or so. don't wanna regret buying it. any thoughts?
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QUOTE(zizheng @ Mar 7 2009, 08:31 PM)
hey, what do you peeps think about the samsung t220? will it be a good buy cause i'm getting it on monday or so. don't wanna regret buying it. any thoughts?
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Samsung t220 is a very nice looking lcd monitor...But no full hd supported, using 16:10 aspect ratio and costs about RM699...
Actually RM699 for 22" is considered expensive...Why dont u think about others brand/model which has a better spec and lower price?
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Mar 7 2009, 09:42 PM)
Samsung t220 is a very nice looking lcd monitor...But no full hd supported, using 16:10 aspect ratio and costs about RM699...
Actually RM699 for 22" is considered expensive...Why dont u think about others brand/model which has a better spec and lower price?
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i guess i like the color sharpness offered by samsung. haha~ thats what i think though =)
what other 22" that has full hd??
i have something to ask too. is it possible that a faulty output from the laptop can cause monitors to die? is there such a thing? cause my laptop lcd is kinda *dead* and i've use 2 different monitors as output and both also died. the color tubes died one showing only yellow and the other showing only red.
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QUOTE(zizheng @ Mar 7 2009, 10:41 PM)
i guess i like the color sharpness offered by samsung. haha~ thats what i think though =)
what other 22" that has full hd??
i have something to ask too. is it possible that a faulty output from the laptop can cause monitors to die? is there such a thing? cause my laptop lcd is kinda *dead* and i've use 2 different monitors as output and both also died. the color tubes died one showing only yellow and the other showing only red.
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Others 22" that has full hd like BenQ E2200HD, Acer H233H, Viewsonic VX2260WM, Asus VK222H, Dell S2409W and etc...
I've no idea with ur laptop screen problem...
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I think 22" without HD is better for your eyes. If want to get HD, just go with 24" lor. Almost same price if I'm not mistaken.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 7 2009, 11:23 PM)
I think 22" without HD is better for your eyes. If want to get HD, just go with 24" lor. Almost same price if I'm not mistaken.
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Why 22" without HD is better for eyes?
Mind to explain?
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Mar 7 2009, 02:34 PM)
Hi,
Both are available in the market. If you intend to get the first one that I have listed, you must have a graphics card that able support DisplayPort and also a graphics card design for CAD/CAM/Designer use. Our normal graphics card does not gain advantage to it but rumours said HD48xx can support.
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I had view the HP DreamColor LP2480zx Professional Display few times already... the specification offered really interesting and it's LED backlite as well smile.gif

But I wonder why you said the graphic card must equipped with DisplayPort? What features that you mentioned only supported by those designer graphic card? Care to elaborate more? unsure.gif

I'm using an 8ms panel and not experiencing any ghosting at the moment, I don't think 12ms will be affected by ghosting problem? huh.gif
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very satisfied with my 2333sw

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QUOTE(lambman @ Mar 8 2009, 01:05 AM)
very satisfied with my 2333sw
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Can post some pics for sharing...
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sure but i dun have any camera to post it up..
later borrow it from my friend..
btw getting hd movie is quite hard since my rapidshare acc always traffic "jam" coz just now getting new game and just now downloading lotr and now im enjoying DOW 2 with it
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QUOTE(lambman @ Mar 8 2009, 01:38 AM)
sure but i dun have any camera to post it up..
later borrow it from my friend..
btw getting hd movie is quite hard since my rapidshare acc always traffic "jam" coz just now getting new game and just now downloading lotr and now im enjoying DOW 2 with it
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DOW 2 is Dawn of War 2?
Btw, u can get a premium user account at rapidshare...Off course u have to pay la...
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QUOTE(lambman @ Mar 8 2009, 01:38 AM)
btw getting hd movie is quite hard since my rapidshare acc always traffic "jam" coz just now getting new game and just now downloading lotr and now im enjoying DOW 2 with it
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Mar 8 2009, 02:03 AM)
Btw, u can get a premium user account at rapidshare...Off course u have to pay la...
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dude are you outdated laugh.gif now the new premium limit is 2.66GB per day doh.gif would you like 2 pay the same price 4 less shakehead.gif unless you buy more accounts or spend another extra 4 more traffic share, then it would not be a problem with HD download icon_idea.gif

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hahahha sorry2 i suddenly said it....

yeah skylinegtr34rule4life u know what i mean...

hihihi
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Mar 8 2009, 02:12 AM)
yo dude never ever mention what you download here laugh.gif nanti dpt banhammer baru tau doh.gif
dude are you outdated laugh.gif now the new premium limit is 2.66GB per day doh.gif would you like 2 pay the same price 4 less shakehead.gif unless you buy more accounts or spend another extra 4 more traffic share, then it would not be a problem with HD download icon_idea.gif
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Haha...Seem like i ady outdated, since long no use rapidshare... laugh.gif laugh.gif
New premium limit is 2.66GB per day? sh**t sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lambman @ Mar 8 2009, 02:16 AM)
hahahha sorry2 i suddenly said it....

yeah skylinegtr34rule4life u know what i mean...

hihihi
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Mar 8 2009, 02:17 AM)
Haha...Seem like i ady outdated, since long no use rapidshare... laugh.gif
New premium limit is 2.66GB per day? sh**t  sweat.gif
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hell yeah sweat.gif

http://rapidshare.com/news.html

you can use megaupload 4 no limit alternative but file deletion is quicker than RS which sucks even more doh.gif

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erk i think u going off the topic too hihihi
btw where can i get 24 inch lcd protector
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 8 2009, 12:31 AM)
I had view the HP DreamColor LP2480zx Professional Display few times already... the specification offered really interesting and it's LED backlite as well smile.gif

But I wonder why you said the graphic card must equipped with DisplayPort? What features that you mentioned only supported by those designer graphic card? Care to elaborate more? unsure.gif

I'm using an 8ms panel and not experiencing any ghosting at the moment, I don't think 12ms will be affected by ghosting problem? huh.gif
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Your graphics card must be those in this line.
http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html
http://ati.amd.com/products/workstation.html

Displayport provides highest bandwidth compare with DVI.

My good old NEC is 16ms, still OK not much ghosting issue.
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QUOTE(lambman @ Mar 8 2009, 02:45 AM)
erk i think u going off the topic too hihihi
btw where can i get 24 inch lcd protector
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Last time i saw tundermatch selling many lcd protector...Try to search it in garage sale as well...
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Mar 8 2009, 02:52 AM)
Hi,
Your graphics card must be those in this line.
http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html
http://ati.amd.com/products/workstation.html

Displayport provides highest bandwidth compare with DVI.

My good old NEC is 16ms, still OK not much ghosting issue.
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Yeap, I know about designer (workstation) graphic card range, but I just wonder if there is any downside if I'm using normal gfx such as 4850 or 4870 on the mentioned LCD? Or actually the built is not mean for normal desktop graphic card at the beginning? unsure.gif

I read news that ATi will ships future graphic card with DisplayPort, lets see how this will be in the coming smile.gif

Well, I'm just looking for a decent LCD that I can use on my workstation, for movie, gaming or perhaps PS3 gaming. I prefer towards color and picture quality over the response time thingy as I felt 2ms don't make any big deal over 8ms, 12ms or 16ms. Says if the price of the LCD affordable within my range, I don't mind paying little extra to get it. But I'm like concerned if the LCD actually not mean for normal user, for example loads of features and settings to be done.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 8 2009, 03:30 AM)
Yeap, I know about designer (workstation) graphic card range, but I just wonder if there is any downside if I'm using normal gfx such as 4850 or 4870 on the mentioned LCD? Or actually the built is not mean for normal desktop graphic card at the beginning? unsure.gif

I read news that ATi will ships future graphic card with DisplayPort, lets see how this will be in the coming smile.gif

Well, I'm just looking for a decent LCD that I can use on my workstation, for movie, gaming or perhaps PS3 gaming. I prefer towards color and picture quality over the response time thingy as I felt 2ms don't make any big deal over 8ms, 12ms or 16ms. Says if the price of the LCD affordable within my range, I don't mind paying little extra to get it. But I'm like concerned if the LCD actually not mean for normal user, for example loads of features and settings to be done.
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Hi,
I can't comment on this.
I have HD4870 running on my PC paired with LP2475w through DisplayPort. Since the LP2475w still far behind than LP2480zx I can't comment on the picture quality.
The best is you e-mail to HP & ATI/AMD regarding the ideal setup that you want, from the technical specs seems like HD4870 can support but I never anybody has this setup. Please bare in mind that LP2480zx can cost more than RM8K in here.
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actually my laptop lcd was *growing* lines vertically...i think is called dead pixels? sorry, i'm very bad at these things. the vertical lines all had different colors. then after 1 or 2 months, the whole LCD started to get *seizures*, the horizontal lines started popping out and the whole lcd was flickering. after that the whole thing just would not show anything at all except for various beautiful colors.so, will it affect my monitor if i use a monitor as an output? i already have 2 dead monitors since using them as outputs. so i wanna buy a new monitor and worried that the output can cause problems and kill the new monitor. pls help[ sad.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 8 2009, 12:31 AM)
I had view the HP DreamColor LP2480zx Professional Display few times already... the specification offered really interesting and it's LED backlite as well smile.gif

But I wonder why you said the graphic card must equipped with DisplayPort? What features that you mentioned only supported by those designer graphic card? Care to elaborate more? unsure.gif

I'm using an 8ms panel and not experiencing any ghosting at the moment, I don't think 12ms will be affected by ghosting problem? huh.gif
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is it possible to download or buy any 1920x1080 movies? i download a few full HD movie which claims to be 1080p but after finish downloaded i still see the bloody 2 black bar doh.gif
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I have HD4870 running on my PC paired with LP2475w through DisplayPort.
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is it possible to download or buy any 1920x1080 movies? i download a few full HD movie which claims to be 1080p but after finish downloaded i still see the bloody 2 black bar doh.gif
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I don't know about legal BluRay discs though, but those shops that display them shows no black bars at all.
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Nothing much to show out. I need it for photo editing and web publishing purpose.
You can find more LP2475W in internet easily they are same thing. smile.gif
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widescreen what difference with non- one??
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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 8 2009, 04:33 PM)
Because usually the resolution of the illegal movies are not FULL HD, their aspect ratio is a little screwed.

I don't know about legal BluRay discs though, but those shops that display them shows no black bars at all.
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is it possible to download or buy any 1920x1080 movies? i download a few full HD movie which claims to be 1080p but after finish downloaded i still see the bloody 2 black bar doh.gif
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Because usually the resolution of the illegal movies are not FULL HD, their aspect ratio is a little screwed.

I don't know about legal BluRay discs though, but those shops that display them shows no black bars at all.
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Black bars or no black bars depends on your movie ratio. If you movie's aspect ratio is anything above 1.78:1, both 16:9 and 16:10 will have black bars. Just that with 16:9 the black bars will be thinner. Most movies are in 1.85:1 and 2.39:1 ratio. It is possible to download 1080p movies. Or you can just buy them like I did, get blu-ray disc movies.
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erk i think u going off the topic too hihihi
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i saw some review on net n saw d dvi resolution of d acer X233H just on 1400*900 if with vga cable then d resolutin is 1920*1080 ...any owner can clarify with this..??? since my bro wishing 2 take one unit since d price is damn cheap with d spec .....

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i dont know where to ask, yesterday my lcd make sound like "Pop!" and smell something burning. then i know the LCD rosak adi. So normally how much for the cost to repair the LCD and where the location nearest bangi area? +The screen fine no crack. Thanks
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anyone with any thoughts about the samsung 2333sw? pls share. i don't know which one to get. everyday i see a few different ones and im getting more and more confused. :S
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erm.. anyone using Dell2409 for graphic designing? mind to share any setting?
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 8 2009, 09:14 PM)
Black bars or no black bars depends on your movie ratio. If you movie's aspect ratio is anything above 1.78:1, both 16:9 and 16:10 will have black bars. Just that with 16:9 the black bars will be thinner. Most movies are in 1.85:1 and 2.39:1 ratio. It is possible to download 1080p movies. Or you can just buy them like I did, get blu-ray disc movies.
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but where it sell in my place dammm doh.gif how much lol u bought it one ??


maybe protecting it from dust sad.gif
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Is it really true!!! viewsonic vx2433wm 23.6 inch full hd 24 inch is selling at czone at rm 699??? i just checked their pricelist damn i am gonna confirm and call tmr anyone know this or bought it?
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Mar 8 2009, 04:06 AM)
Hi,
I can't comment on this.
I have HD4870 running on my PC paired with LP2475w through DisplayPort. Since the LP2475w still far behind than LP2480zx I can't comment on the picture quality.
The best is you e-mail to HP & ATI/AMD regarding the ideal setup that you want, from the technical specs seems like HD4870 can support but I never anybody has this setup. Please bare in mind that LP2480zx can cost more than RM8K in here.
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Oh man... I'm just a goner doh.gif

QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 8 2009, 09:33 AM)
Forget about LP2480zx as it is not relevant for normal home users, unless color accuracy is so important to you or your job that you need to fork out nearly RM7k for that LCD. NEC LCD2490WUXi/LCD2690WUXi or Hazro HZ26W/HZ26Wi offers the same quality out of the box and you save yourself a few Ks. Good luck hunting biggrin.gif
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NEC LCD2490WUXi/LCD2690WUXi or Hazro HZ26W/HZ26Wi? blink.gif

Ok, let me try to check it up, thanks for the recommendation smile.gif
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about 700 bucks. dell 2409w, t220 or 2333sw. no idea which one to get. i saw the t220 features and it says that it has DVI with HDCP. does it mean that it is capable of viewing HD movies? say 1080?

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about 700 bucks. dell 2409w, t220 or 2333sw. no idea which one to get. i saw the t220 features and it says that it has DVI with HDCP. does it mean that it is capable of viewing HD movies? say 1080?
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All the models can play 1080p, protected content or otherwise.

The s2409w has got the most real estate but colors are a little bit dull
The T220 has got a nice looking bezel and has nice colors but a wobbly stand to boot, without any wall mount holes in case the stand breaks.
The 2333sw is about the size of the T220 but slightly wider but slight shorter

I own a T220, my friend has a 2333sw. Given the almost similar prices now, I'd choose the 2333sw. As to the s2409w, it's not really 700, it's way cheaper in garage sales.

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 9 2009, 10:43 AM)
All the models can play 1080p, protected content or otherwise.

The s2409w has got the most real estate but colors are a little bit dull
The T220 has got a nice looking bezel and has nice colors but a wobbly stand to boot, without any wall mount holes in case the stand breaks.
The 2333sw is about the size of the T220 but slightly wider but slight shorter

I own a T220, my friend has a 2333sw. Given the almost similar prices now, I'd choose the 2333sw. As to the s2409w, it's not really 700, it's way cheaper in garage sales.
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thanks for the info. so meaning to say the T220 and 2333SW is similar? just that the 2333SW is already on a full HD display? also, what about the contrast ratio? i have no idea about it at all. i see the 2333SW on samsung's webbie is 20,000:1 but at lowyat's price lists is stated as 15,000:1? *confused*
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planning to build a bittorrent pc and play all those HD or AVIs for TV series from US like Greys, what is a good 20+ inch lcd monitor that is full HD capable and has sound built?
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planning to get a monitor soon. at least a 24 incher.
am thinking about the dell 2709. but so far unable to see it in action anywhere cause no stores are displaying it even though its available for order.

anyone using one? or know where i can see one?

am not interested in any of the smaller samsung, dell, or hp panels as they all have horrible viewing angles.

any suggestions would be welcome.
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Hi, I would like to find sumsung T260 , but still didnt see any catalog in lowyat display this model and the price!! Why?
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seems like the prices are going up again.....
i only saw samsung`s lcd....almost all of them rises rm30 ...sad.gif
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QUOTE(witcher @ Mar 9 2009, 02:37 PM)
planning to get a monitor soon. at least a 24 incher.
am thinking about the dell 2709. but so far unable to see it in action anywhere cause no stores are displaying it even though its available for order.

anyone using one? or know where i can see one?

am not interested in any of the smaller samsung, dell, or hp panels as they all have horrible viewing angles.

any suggestions would be welcome.
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u mean 2409 is it? if u mean 2409.. a lot ppl using it.. i m one of them.. tongue.gif

*refer to my last post: anyone using Dell 2409 for graphic design/photo edit? any color setting u use? mind to share?
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which brand nice?
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which brand nice?
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that is what i want to also? i saw some benq lcds for rm459, Full HD some more. i hear viewsonic is good but didnt see any on offer.
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that is what i want to also? i saw some benq lcds for rm459, Full HD some more. i hear viewsonic is good but didnt see any on offer.
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Dell S2409W Full HD 24" Monitor unsure.gif
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Hi, I am getting a 24"/22" lcd for myself but I dont know which one is the best for me. Usually I only use it for movies and my work, sometimes to play some games such as RA3. I heard people says I need a good graphic card for a widescreen lcd. I using 7600GT only. Is it enough for my lcd screen? thanks for ya help biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Mar 9 2009, 03:35 PM)
u mean 2409 is it? if u mean 2409.. a lot ppl using it.. i m one of them.. tongue.gif

*refer to my last post: anyone using Dell 2409 for graphic design/photo edit? any color setting u use? mind to share?
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no i do mean 2709.

Dell 2709 widescreen

i havent seen much of a reference to this model on this board. but it seems like a good price and performance.
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QUOTE(crusher @ Mar 9 2009, 04:56 PM)
Hi, I am getting a 24"/22" lcd for myself but I dont know which one is the best for me. Usually I only use it for movies and my work, sometimes to play some games such as RA3. I heard people says I need a good graphic card for a widescreen lcd. I using 7600GT only. Is it enough for my lcd screen? thanks for ya help  biggrin.gif
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need a good graphic card for a widescreen lcd? unsure.gif I using 6600GT only doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 9 2009, 04:54 PM)
Dell S2409W Full HD 24" Monitor unsure.gif
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. 16:9 dynamic aspect ratio
. HDMI high quality digital connection
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yea.. this one not bad.. i m using it.. for movie and also work.. no game only.. =.=''

QUOTE(witcher @ Mar 9 2009, 04:58 PM)
no i do mean 2709.

Dell 2709 widescreen

i havent seen much of a reference to this model on this board. but it seems like a good price and performance.
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QUOTE(witcher @ Mar 9 2009, 04:58 PM)
no i do mean 2709.

Dell 2709 widescreen

i havent seen much of a reference to this model on this board. but it seems like a good price and performance.
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hehe. so i guess no owners here?

well, i will probably take the plunge and buy it.
will let you know how it fares.

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was trying to pair my s2409 with the ps3 on 1080p mode...it cant...only 720p is available...uhm...
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good enough rite?
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 8 2009, 09:33 AM)
Forget about LP2480zx as it is not relevant for normal home users, unless color accuracy is so important to you or your job that you need to fork out nearly RM7k for that LCD. NEC LCD2490WUXi/LCD2690WUXi or Hazro HZ26W/HZ26Wi offers the same quality out of the box and you save yourself a few Ks. Good luck hunting biggrin.gif
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Hi, is this NEC LCD2490WUXi available in Malaysia ? If Yes, Where can buy this ? & around how much it cost ?
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Mar 10 2009, 12:09 AM)
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maybe 1080p is only for Plasma TV...not computer monitors...

I have a question on LCD warranty...if a monitor's colors start to give way, does the warranty cover the repairs?
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 9 2009, 09:14 AM)
Ah~ha! Ok, lets forget about the LP2480zx as I thought it's just RM2K++ the max sweat.gif

Oh man... I'm just a goner doh.gif
NEC LCD2490WUXi/LCD2690WUXi or Hazro HZ26W/HZ26Wi? blink.gif

Ok, let me try to check it up, thanks for the recommendation smile.gif
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For HP at this moment you can consider this.
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/interactive...|ProdPage|flash

For NEC, they are targeting more on project based customers.
Call them up at Menara TA One, looking for Andrew/Mathew for more informations.
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Can be done, but for normal usage only. please upgrade if you wanna play 2008/2009 games
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QUOTE(crusher @ Mar 9 2009, 04:56 PM)
Hi, I am getting a 24"/22" lcd for myself but I dont know which one is the best for me. Usually I only use it for movies and my work, sometimes to play some games such as RA3. I heard people says I need a good graphic card for a widescreen lcd. I using 7600GT only. Is it enough for my lcd screen? thanks for ya help  biggrin.gif
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yes you need new GC especially 4 the 24" when you playing crysis at sky high maximum settings laugh.gif 1GB GDDR is recommended brows.gif that would be around 1500 bucks 4 the GTX285 aka the king of 1GB GDDR card rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Mar 9 2009, 05:34 PM)
yea.. this one not bad.. i m using it.. for movie and also work.. no game only.. =.=''
oo.. sorry.. i tot is 2409  doh.gif my bad.. this model RM2299.. no wonder not many ppl using it in here tongue.gif
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if using for play game how? not nice? unsure.gif

QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Mar 10 2009, 09:05 AM)
Can be done, but for normal usage only. please upgrade if you wanna play 2008/2009 games
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nod.gif wanna upgrade edi, hv any suggestion?
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if you using 22" then 512MB GDDR card is recommended...bigger than that you need 1GB GDDR card which is more than 1000 bucks dy

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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 10 2009, 12:29 PM)
nod.gif wanna upgrade edi, hv any suggestion?
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I heard the ATI will slash their price.
it will be good for us who has a big monitor, or who will buy new monitor.

I suggest you get 4870 or at least 4850, but wait for few month rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry24238437
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Mar 9 2009, 04:50 PM)
that is what i want to also? i saw some benq lcds for rm459, Full HD some more. i hear viewsonic is good but didnt see any on offer.
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hi,which shop sell Benq for RM459??

I just bought Dell 2409 and i found that there are 2 audio jack behind the panel.Does this LCD got build in speaker?
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hi,which shop sell Benq for RM459??

I just bought Dell 2409 and i found that there are 2 audio jack behind the panel.Does this LCD got build in speaker?
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I currently using 19" LCD (Non-Wide)

Is it worth upgrade it to 20" LCD (Non-Wide) ?

I know it's just 1 inch, anyone experience this small upgrade in size ?

I am trying to buy the Biggest Non-Wide Screen LCD Monitor available cause I don't like Widescreen.
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yup...but then why in the first place do a 1080 panel? that puzzles me..now is like HD ready...
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I currently using 19" LCD (Non-Wide)

Is it worth upgrade it to 20" LCD (Non-Wide) ?

I know it's just 1 inch, anyone experience this small upgrade in size ?

I am trying to buy the Biggest Non-Wide Screen LCD Monitor available cause I don't like Widescreen.
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I got questions about this Dell UltraSharp 2007FP

Specifications say it's Panel Type is
VA - Vertical Alignment & IPS - In Panel Switching

I thought a monitor should be using either one of it. Can a Monitor is using 2 panel type together ?

Can anyone care to guide me on this ?

Thanks.
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I heard the ATI will slash their price.
it will be good for us who has a big monitor, or who will buy new monitor.

I suggest you get 4870 or at least 4850, but wait for few month rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry24238437
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if you using 22" then 512MB GDDR card is recommended...bigger than that you need 1GB GDDR card which is more than 1000 bucks dy
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not all...except asus dk and his iceq, the rest of 4870 now priced around RM800+-
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Any ultrasharp 2709w users wanna share their experience here? On the brink of dealing to buy one, but wanna hear opinions first.. Comparison with other similar or smaller size monitor maybe..?
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currently i am thinking to buy a new 23/24" lcd , which of the following is the best factoring warranty, picture quality, reliability, service etc..i will be mainly using it for gaming , movie watching , picture viewing but almost none photo editing /printing....budget would be below RM 700 but hope to go as low as possible

viewsonic vx2433wm (heard it drop to 699 now..near dell price range.)
dell s2409
samsung 2333sw.

what other good option i missed?
beside what is the cheapest gc i should aim for to play game on 1900x1080?

thanks in advance

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@ G-Ken

i'm also on the brink of buying the same one, and have done quite a bit of research online..

seems like quite a good monitor performance wise, but some reviews mention a lag.
when you planning on buying?
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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Mar 10 2009, 03:56 PM)
I got questions about this Dell UltraSharp 2007FP

Specifications say it's Panel Type is
VA - Vertical Alignment & IPS - In Panel Switching

I thought a monitor should be using either one of it. Can a Monitor is using 2 panel type together ?

Can anyone care to guide me on this ?

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sorry, may i know what is GDDR card? swt.
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QUOTE(justone @ Mar 10 2009, 05:40 PM)
not all...except asus dk and his iceq, the rest of 4870 now priced around RM800+-
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 10 2009, 09:55 PM)
It means it is either VA or IPS. It's a gamble, I think mostly are VAs now. IPS are long gone.
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H-IPS isn't tongue.gif . They have the best of all LCDs now. Response time, viewing angle, colours, you name it.

Anyway, anyone here has experience with Samsung 2433BW?

EDIT:Information error.

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samsung, dell and acer lcd, which 1 better?
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benq 24' e series with full hd. recommended??
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samsung, dell and acer lcd, which 1 better?
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Not recommend acer.
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i've one question here....since it's very hard for me to find lcd size 24"...i just afraid if happen to this forumer....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/961294

i just wanna know is there got lcd screen protector size 24"? any forumer selling this item? if still can't find it....can i use tinted which can use for the car?
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most of u here not recommended acer but i bought 1 myself and found no problem so far lol
come with all the cable

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we r not talking bout the problems/faulty. we are saying the picture quality.. miliseconds, design etc etc
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 11 2009, 06:32 PM)
we r not talking bout the problems/faulty. we are saying the picture quality.. miliseconds, design etc etc
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QUOTE(myee @ Mar 11 2009, 06:02 PM)
i've one question here....since it's very hard for me to find lcd size 24"...i just afraid if happen to this forumer....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/961294

i just wanna know is there got lcd screen protector size 24"? any forumer selling this item? if still can't find it....can i use tinted which can use for the car?
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of course i want....including me 2 buyer was lurking for this....
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Is it worth to upgrade 22" to 27" or 30"?
I got a lcd tv but i dont think its suitable for pc gaming and work... pls comment~
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QUOTE(butthead012 @ Mar 12 2009, 12:46 AM)
Is it worth to upgrade 22" to 27" or 30"?
I got a lcd tv but i dont think its suitable for pc gaming and work... pls comment~
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LCD TV is never suitable for PC work, even with FULL HD. If you find 22" is insufficient for you, go ahead and upgrade. I wouldn't go for 30" because it would be uncomfortable sitting at a close range to a 30". 26" is the max for me.
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Mar 11 2009, 10:27 AM)
H-IPS isn't tongue.gif . They have the best of all LCDs now. Response time, viewing angle, colours, you name it.

Anyway, anyone here has experience with Samsung 2433BW?

EDIT:Information error.
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The specs is written here
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...bsd1&l=en&s=bsd

stated "VA - Vertical Alignment & IPS - In Panel Switching"

do u think this IPS is the H-IPS u mentions ?

How come we going to gamble either VA or IPS ? it's say "&" and it's NOT "or"

so confuse rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 12 2009, 12:53 AM)
LCD TV is never suitable for PC work, even with FULL HD. If you find 22" is insufficient for you, go ahead and upgrade. I wouldn't go for 30" because it would be uncomfortable sitting at a close range to a 30". 26" is the max for me.
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agree on that....even my Dell 24" make me sakit mata d....
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If I'm going to leave the computer on for a very long time without actually being in front of it, is it better to switch off the LCD monitor or let it just automatically go to power saving mode?

Which extends the LCD monitor's life longer?
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IMO samsung is the best. but value for money choose Dell S2409.
Not recommend acer.
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Hey guys, need some help over here.
I currently using 20" Samsung SyncMaster206BW, and i am looking for a dual screen set up, however, i couldn't find any 206BW in the market anymore.

and i am looking for a 20" Samsung monitor with 1680x1050 resolution... ANY recommend?
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agree on that....even my Dell 24" make me sakit mata d....
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im ok with dat, even thinking of buying larger monitor. just stay abit far from monitor and everything settle. just like playing gaming console! drool.gif
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24" lcd at least what graphic card it need? GT6600 can? unsure.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 12 2009, 12:05 PM)
24" lcd at least what graphic card it need? GT6600 can? unsure.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 12 2009, 03:08 PM)
No problem with 6600GT. I have one Dell S2409W connected to old Geforce Ti4600 AGP with 1920x1080 resolution.
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 12 2009, 03:08 PM)
No problem with 6600GT. I have one Dell S2409W connected to old Geforce Ti4600 AGP with 1920x1080 resolution.
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QUOTE(lord14383 @ Mar 12 2009, 03:43 AM)
1.the DCR for Dell S2409W only have 1000:1, it will look like not so colourful compare to the Samsung T240(20000:1)?
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Can't use DCR to compare.....
If really want compare....how about Dell G2410 1,000,000:1 vs samsung T240 20,000:1?
Samsung T240 DCR only stand 2% of Dell G2410 DCR.......which is DAMN IT....WHY SAMSUNG SO LOW!!!!
But ya....I agree samsung color look nicer cuz of DCR.....but samsung haven't mature their DCR technology yet.....
Look at >>> http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/523/45180836.jpg
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any monitor without hdmi port is lower class..

currently using HP w2408h with hdmi port
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any monitor without hdmi port is lower class..

currently using HP w2408h with hdmi port
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 12 2009, 07:11 PM)
any monitor without hdmi port is lower class..

currently using HP w2408h with hdmi port
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So then, you are saying perhaps out there, the ones without the HDMI port but has H-IPS/VA panels lower class than your TN panel ultra-glare reflecting, HP monitor that will never ever beat any of the premium panels then?

I don't understand what's wrong with the ones who thinks there is a must for HDMI ports when you can easily get an adapter and change it given that you want a monitor without a HDMI port.
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Yalor, HDMI port doesn't make your lcd higher class... laugh.gif



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eh..... i got rm500 wat LCD can u guys recommend me wat LCD to buy?
will use it to watch movies and also not to extreme gaming.
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go for acer 24 inch...i saw a forumer sell 549
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 12 2009, 07:11 PM)
any monitor without hdmi port is lower class..

currently using HP w2408h with hdmi port
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brilliant! HDMI is electronically the same as DVI, just convert the socket a bit, and add in digital audio support. So if that makes your HP w2408h with HDMI port superior, you can continue to live in your dreamland.
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If I'm going to leave the computer on for a very long time without actually being in front of it, is it better to switch off the LCD monitor or let it just automatically go to power saving mode?

Which extends the LCD monitor's life longer?
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is it really much diff compare with no HDMI and HDMI
HDMI good for gamin?movie?or .............
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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 12 2009, 11:35 PM)
If I'm going to leave the computer on for a very long time without actually being in front of it, is it better to switch off the LCD monitor or let it just automatically go to power saving mode?

Which extends the LCD monitor's life longer?
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Switch the monitor off.
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is it really much diff compare with no HDMI and HDMI
HDMI good for gamin?movie?or .............
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HDMI exist on LCD monitor now is mainly for console. Like PS3. HDMI = DVI with sound signal. That's all.
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Hey peeps!, im thinking getting Acer X203H for my uncle, especially its attractive price tag which less than rm390.

I know its not 1080p, but i don't think it will bother my uncle which hes like 60+ yrs old.. smile.gif

So, any comment on this Acer X203H?..

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Guys may i noe how to check wheather the monitor is full hd or hd ready? There stated HDMI means full HD? Monitor like HP w2228h and HP w2448h?
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full hd mean 1080p supported, aka 1920 x 1080 resolution. HP w2228h max support 1680 x 1050 so it is hd ready. w2448h is full hd
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So means that HD is following resolution? All 24inch mostly is full HD alredi rite? so izzit possible tat 19 inch o 20inch monitor got HD?
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QUOTE(sailen @ Mar 13 2009, 04:42 PM)
full hd mean 1080p supported, aka 1920 x 1080 resolution. HP w2228h max support 1680 x 1050 so it is hd ready. w2448h is full hd
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u dont count that way. look at lcd tv few years back. 32inches or 40inches not even FullHD. how can u count by the resolution?

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 13 2009, 05:12 PM)

Added on March 13, 2009, 5:14 pm

u dont count that way. look at lcd tv few years back. 32inches or 40inches not even FullHD. how can u count by the resolution?
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DVI can achieve full HD.

Full HD is base on the resolution of the LCD not size of the LCD. Any LCD can display minimum 1920x1080 (1080p) is full hd LCD.
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QUOTE(sailen @ Mar 13 2009, 04:42 PM)
full hd mean 1080p supported, aka 1920 x 1080 resolution. HP w2228h max support 1680 x 1050 so it is hd ready. w2448h is full hd
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what is the P meaning aa? progressive scan?
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 13 2009, 05:22 PM)
DVI can achieve full HD.

Full HD is base on the resolution of the LCD not size of the LCD. Any LCD can display minimum 1920x1080 (1080p) is full hd LCD.
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what is the P meaning aa? progressive scan?
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Im looking for a 22incher which can do full HD, 16:9 only!
currently i see the dell s2209w, can do it, samsungs 22inchers are 16:10 so its a nono
any other good models which is 22inch, full hd, 16:9 ?
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benq? E series
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Samsung 2233sw is 16:9

So is yes yes for u rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 13 2009, 12:24 AM)
Switch the monitor off.
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wat is the price for dell s2209w
some ppl say iit is rm5++ is it real?
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 13 2009, 05:22 PM)
DVI can achieve full HD.

Full HD is base on the resolution of the LCD not size of the LCD. Any LCD can display minimum 1920x1080 (1080p) is full hd LCD.
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how can i knw which model lcd can support like xbox360, ps3... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 14 2009, 08:28 AM)
how can i knw which model lcd can support like xbox360, ps3... unsure.gif
They at least must have HDCP support
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 14 2009, 09:03 AM)
They at least must have HDCP support
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HDCP is content protection only,doesn't likely represent the presence of FULL HD.Mostly all HDMI ports will have.

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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 14 2009, 08:28 AM)
how can i knw which model lcd can support like xbox360, ps3... unsure.gif
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like other forumer said, look for the lcd with HDMI (HDCP compliance). Better if can get 16:9, 1920x1080 resolution monitor. Currently using Dell S2409W with my Xbox360 n very satisfied. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 14 2009, 09:03 AM)
They at least must have HDCP support
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what mean HDCP? i just knw HDMI only sweat.gif


Added on March 14, 2009, 11:34 am
QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 14 2009, 10:51 AM)
like other forumer said, look for the lcd with HDMI (HDCP compliance). Better if can get 16:9, 1920x1080 resolution monitor. Currently using Dell S2409W with my Xbox360 n very satisfied.  biggrin.gif
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dell s2409w lcd can 2in1? mean xbox360 & cpu using the same 1 lcd unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 14 2009, 11:29 AM)


Added on March 14, 2009, 11:34 am
dell s2409w lcd can 2in1? mean xbox360 & cpu using the same 1 lcd unsure.gif
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can but no 1button switch like samsung, need to go to menu n select
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If you PC does not have a HDMI port, and you want to connect your PC to your LCD/Plasma TV, here's the solution:

Try using a Monster 400 DVI-HDMI cable to connect your PC to your LCD/Plasma TV.

PC (DVI) to LCD/Plasma TV (HDMI). No need conversion adapter.

Connect straight to your monitor and achive excellent HD quality on your LCD/Plasma TV.

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Check out this thread for more information:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/909344


If you want to connect your PS3/Xbox/Wii to LCD Monitor, you also can use the same cable with the following connection:

PS3 (HDMI) to LCD Monitor (DVI).
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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 14 2009, 11:29 AM)
what mean HDCP? i just knw HDMI only sweat.gif
HDCP <------ CLICK ME

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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 14 2009, 11:29 AM)
what mean HDCP? i just knw HDMI only sweat.gif


Added on March 14, 2009, 11:34 am
dell s2409w lcd can 2in1? mean xbox360 & cpu using the same 1 lcd unsure.gif
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HDCP=High Bandiwidth Content Protection.
Sauce for your info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP


Added on March 14, 2009, 1:03 pm
QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Mar 14 2009, 11:59 AM)
If you  PC does not have a HDMI port, and you want to connect your PC to your LCD/Plasma TV, here's the solution:

Try using a Monster 400 DVI-HDMI cable to connect your PC to your LCD/Plasma TV.

PC (DVI) to LCD/Plasma TV (HDMI). No need conversion adapter.

Connect straight to your monitor and achive excellent HD quality on your LCD/Plasma TV.

user posted image

Check out this thread for more information:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/909344
If you want to connect your PS3/Xbox/Wii to LCD Monitor, you also can use the same cable with the following connection:

PS3 (HDMI) to LCD Monitor (DVI).
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Marketting Trick huh? tongue.gif


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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 14 2009, 12:30 PM)
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Mar 14 2009, 11:50 AM)
can but no 1button switch like samsung, need to go to menu n select
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if can, no need using 2 monitor edi rclxm9.gif , u said samsung 1 button switch which model?


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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 14 2009, 12:30 PM)
QUOTE(minghao @ Mar 14 2009, 01:00 PM)
HDCP=High Bandiwidth Content Protection.
Sauce for your info:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP


Added on March 14, 2009, 1:03 pmMarketting Trick huh? tongue.gif
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nice link thumbup.gif

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Hey,here anyone know how to panaromic the monitor?For instance,I may use 2 monitors to play Crysis,GRID.Like last time PC FAIR d PC guru that thing.
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Hi i have search around for the Acer 24 P244WB LCD screen but there was no entry regarding this monitor. Actually i spot the monitor at viewnet today with price tag around RM10++
So have anyone bought it?
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Hmmm digitaltech selling de hdmi to dvi cable izzit expensive? Or reasonable? cuz kuching here dint sell any monster product so i dint noe the price
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QUOTE(WilliamG @ Mar 15 2009, 11:38 PM)
Hmmm digitaltech selling de hdmi to dvi cable izzit expensive? Or reasonable? cuz kuching here dint sell any monster product so i dint noe the price
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i have an example for u. he also selling monster hdmi to hdmi cable right? lets take the rm300 one for example. those electronic shops in KL selling that cable for rm1000++
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Here's some review on how the cable differs.

The cable game - PC World

Summary:

They don't differ. Just go get a normal HDMI cable and a HDMI - DVI converter.
Else, you could just buy a DVI cable and a DVI - HDMI cable instead. DVI cables are dirt cheap anyways.

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since the 2709w decreased its price to 2299, i'm really thinking of upgrading from my 2408wfp i bought at last year's pcfair. hopefully dell will give a great deal for the 2709w at this year's pcfair.

how much can i get for my 2408wfp? i'm thinking around 1300. too cheap/exp?
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QUOTE(hardforum @ Mar 2 2009, 10:11 AM)
s2409w should be able to handle it nicely. nod.gif
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Hi bro, I juz made online order for the S2409W via dell website, arriving soon. Planning to hookup my xbox 360 via hdmi on it. What was the price when u bought it ya? Did u try hooking consoles on it, how was it?
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 16 2009, 12:54 AM)
Here's some review on how the cable differs.

The cable game - PC World

Summary:

They don't differ. Just go get a normal HDMI cable and a HDMI - DVI converter.
Else, you could just buy a DVI cable and a DVI - HDMI cable instead. DVI cables are dirt cheap anyways.
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normal/cheap/chapayam are ok. but i'v experienced 2 cheap hdmi wires. both rosak!! both used not more than a month
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 16 2009, 04:32 PM)
normal/cheap/chapayam are ok. but i'v experienced 2 cheap hdmi wires. both rosak!! both used not more than a month
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may i know ur cheap hdmi wires that rosak ... how much u bought ? I don't know how cheap is cheap. U buy from lyn one ah ?
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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 16 2009, 04:36 PM)
may i know ur cheap hdmi wires that rosak ... how much u bought ? I don't know how cheap is cheap. U buy from lyn one ah ?
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i bought one from All IT lowyat plaza for around rm60 if mistaken. and another one is for free by old samsung lcd tv. both of these rosak kau kau..
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ermm, want to buy LCD panel, it seems like the current trend for LCDs are TN panel!! blink.gif blink.gif

I am having hard time finding a non- TN panel LCD...

finding range 19'' to 24''


tried dell's site, ALL are TN panel!

what with those contrast ratio gimmick?!

IT IS STILL A TN panel!


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QUOTE(hz428 @ Mar 16 2009, 06:06 PM)
ermm, want to buy LCD panel, it seems like the current trend for LCDs are TN panel!! blink.gif  blink.gif

I am having hard time finding a non- TN panel LCD...

finding range 19'' to 24''
tried dell's site, ALL are TN panel!

what with those contrast ratio gimmick?!

IT IS STILL A TN panel!


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Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP (^.<)v

VA panel
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Mar 16 2009, 06:34 PM)
too bad low contrast and 6ms gtg..
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too bad low contrast and 6ms gtg..
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Huh? What's your purpose?

TN over VA? doh.gif
low contrast? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Mar 16 2009, 06:34 PM)
thanks alot

appreciate.
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 16 2009, 06:45 PM)
too bad low contrast and 6ms gtg..
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I think you should just STFU if you do not know about monitors. rclxms.gif

VA pwns TN doesn't matter the specs.
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i know VA is lots lots lots and lots better for sure. but 1000:1 and 6ms just turned me off.
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 16 2009, 07:38 PM)
i know VA is lots lots lots and lots better for sure. but 1000:1 and 6ms just turned me off.
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lolz what a noob. concerned about stuff that doesn't matter. you want high contrast? go for those 100000:1 plasma display la! doh.gif
those lcd with high contrast are dynamic contrast la ,that one is not the actual contrast . lcd true contrast stays in a range of 1000:1. and response time wor... u want 0ms display?it doesnt matter because there is no way to measure response time.20ms old samsung doesn't even lag. doh.gif just get your facts right lor before replying here like a noob. shakehead.gif
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@_@
so VA / IPS will not have ghosting even in high response time right?
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QUOTE(hz428 @ Mar 16 2009, 06:54 PM)
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so VA / IPS will not have ghosting even in high response time right?
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Ghosting will have. But! Our eyes response can't follow up the scent
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anythn below 12ms will b less likely to hav ghosting...

dell's web site stop selling 2408...no more va/ips for 22" - 24" dell monitors..
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QUOTE(justone @ Mar 17 2009, 03:09 AM)
anythn below 12ms will b less likely to hav ghosting...

dell's web site stop selling 2408...no more va/ips for 22" - 24" dell monitors..
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The 2408 is still being sold at Small & Medium Business link.
24"-30" Monitor
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 16 2009, 06:45 PM)
too bad low contrast and 6ms gtg..
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have u even seen it upclose, I own that LCD and it's definitely not low contrast. I am using it for gaming as well and I don't see any ghosting at all even though its a 6ms
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Human eyes have a threshold of around 12 to 16ms... your optic nerves (or cone cells) simply could not fire signal to your brain fast enough

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2408WFP has serious input lag. everything else is very good though.

http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=3302&p=12

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yeah but don't forget to read this part

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On the other hand, we have played games on all of the test LCDs, and we honestly can't say that we noticed any difference in our overall performance. But we weren't hopped up on Bawls and we don't have a 1337 name like Fatal1ty. Competitive gamers will probably feel differently.

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QUOTE(rockets @ Mar 17 2009, 11:48 AM)
2408WFP has serious input lag. everything else is very good though.

http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=3302&p=12
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i have this monitor and i must say i don't notice the lag. i've had it for a year and it has never bothered me in cod4. and mine is the first gen one.

i think this lcd has around 50-60ms lag. now when you switch on the lights in your house, from the moment you press the light switch to the light bulb turning on is 100ms (i read this somewhere, can't remember where though). just think about that.

i think most people's "lag" experience is due to either internet connection lag or insufficient graphics processor (it is 1920x1200).

just my 2 sen.
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u all dont see the lag doesnt mean i cant see. even tho i cant see my mind will still not be satisfied. u guys are just dell's fanboys
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:25 PM)
u all dont see the lag doesnt mean i cant see. even tho i cant see my mind will still not be satisfied. u guys are just dell's fanboys
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yeah.. maybe.
but just admit it, VA is better than TN brows.gif

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QUOTE(panafone @ Mar 17 2009, 12:05 PM)
i have this monitor and i must say i don't notice the lag. i've had it for a year and it has never bothered me in cod4. and mine is the first gen one.

i think this lcd has around 50-60ms lag. now when you switch on the lights in your house, from the moment you press the light switch to the light bulb turning on is 100ms (i read this somewhere, can't remember where though). just think about that.

i think most people's "lag" experience is due to either internet connection lag or insufficient graphics processor (it is 1920x1200).

just my 2 sen.
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yup, for most people it's not going to matter. but hardcore fps players are probably gonna feel it, as a fraction of a second can be the difference between getting a headshot or getting headshotted smile.gif.

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excuse me........
where do you all get the info about monitor panel.........
and how to identified the monitor is using which panel............
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 16 2009, 07:45 PM)
too bad low contrast and 6ms gtg..
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LOL. VA panel not for gamers omgwtfbbqsauce.
loololololoololol. rclxms.gif
eh dude, you should check nowadays "full hd" monitor with dynamic contrast, check also their native contrast smile.gif


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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:25 PM)
u all dont see the lag doesnt mean i cant see. even tho i cant see my mind will still not be satisfied. u guys are just dell's fanboys
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lolz my mind also will not be satisfy for not calling you a retard. what a fcuking retard! whistling.gif
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I've been using Dell ultrasharp 20 inch (VA panel) for three years. GTG is more than 10 ms, if I am not wrong. I use it to play bioshock, GTA, NFS, and many other fast action games. I didn't notice any lagging at all.
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:25 PM)
u all dont see the lag doesnt mean i cant see. even tho i cant see my mind will still not be satisfied. u guys are just dell's fanboys
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Men... 1st you pronouncement LCD monitor without HDMI = lower class. Really surprising. cool2.gif

2nd:you mention Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP VA panel low contrast and 6ms gtg. hmm... An extremely bizarre person? hmm.gif
3rd: you deem it you can see the lag in between 6ms.

Are you been coordinate? coordinator notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Mar 17 2009, 07:06 PM)
Men... 1st you pronouncement LCD monitor without HDMI = lower class.  Really surprising. cool2.gif

2nd:you mention Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP VA panel low contrast and 6ms gtg.  hmm... An extremely bizarre person? hmm.gif
3rd: you deem it you can see the lag in between 6ms.

Are you been coordinate?  coordinator notworthy.gif
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IMHO just a 12 yr old kid, that explains his statement. If he's a grown-up adult.... you guys be the judge what he is. brows.gif
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even a 12years old kid who knows stuff also won't talk like that la,huhuhuhuhuhh
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Just got a WFP3007 for my entertainment rig rclxms.gif
so far the LCD is working great but may i ask,WFP3007 has HC model or not?
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2009, 07:23 PM)
Just got a WFP3007 for my entertainment rig rclxms.gif
so far the LCD is working great but may i ask,WFP3007 has HC model or not?
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i dun think so....why get 3007? get 3008 ma....
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hahaha.. from this thread i can see. users here are not going to talk to u properly or teach u the right thing from the mistakes u have did. they will just reply u in a sacarstic way. all gang bang one person. i thought someone will come out to say 'hey dun talk to him like this la.. he just have the wrong information of what he learnt. lets tell him the correct one'

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:25 PM)
u all dont see the lag doesnt mean i cant see. even tho i cant see my mind will still not be satisfied. u guys are just dell's fanboys
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Yeah?
So you are literally saying that you CANNOT see the lag but your MIND can feel it, right?

So, define your "Feel" .

I'm all ears. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(chickenducksoup @ Mar 17 2009, 08:32 PM)
ya i would like to know also how to identify which panel
(pls dun ask ppl to search,search for 1 day;y dun u just spend 1 minute for ur answer.if u dun like to answer just stay away,this is forum)
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Usually they are stated in the spec sheet.
Check the spec sheet for them.

For example :-
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...en&s=dhs&~ck=mn

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2009, 07:23 PM)
Just got a WFP3007 for my entertainment rig rclxms.gif
so far the LCD is working great but may i ask,WFP3007 has HC model or not?
3007wfp-hc was released a year or so after the release of 3007wfp ... if I'm not mistaken...

only differs in Back-light

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i think i remember someone say using a camera (by looking at the camera screen u will c the flip imagine u will c some vertical line (VA panel),something like that) can know which panel is that?
izzit this is another way to identify panel?
correct me if i wrong.

offtopic.
wow this forum really hot indeed.
long time nv come hardware zone.
guy relax...
not tat all ppl. can sit in front of pc to search for few hour.
and no need to use "dumbasss" good?
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like i say if feel that this post is spoonfeeding just ignore it.

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The easiest way to see what's the panel use is by looking at the viewing angle. TN panel will always have a more narrow viewing angle usually 160° / 160° (typical) and VA/S-IPS will have wider viewing angle usually 178° / 178° (typical).
Unfortunately not all manufacturer advertise the panel they use, so using viewing angle is the most accurate way to know the panel used
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QUOTE(chickenducksoup @ Mar 17 2009, 09:48 PM)
i think i remember someone say using a camera (by looking at the camera screen u will c the flip imagine u will c some vertical line (VA panel),something like that)  can know which panel is that?
izzit this is another way to identify panel?
correct me if i wrong.

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wow this forum really hot indeed.
long time nv come hardware zone.
guy relax...
not tat all ppl. can sit in front of pc to search for few hour.
and no need to use "dumbasss" good?
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The camera trick is not for checking panel type. Like valho said, viewing angle is the easiest to check the panel type. But those who haven't seen a VA/IPS panel before might have a problem because they have nothing to compare with. 2ndly is the color reproduction. Again, you have to be pretty good with your eyes and have seen a VA/IPS panel before you can spot the difference. 3rdly, if non of those above works for you, worst come to worst come in here, give us a model you want to check the panel type and wait for forumers reply if you do not have the time searching for it.
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QUOTE(valho @ Mar 17 2009, 10:00 PM)
The easiest way to see what's the panel use is by looking at the viewing angle. TN panel will always have a more narrow viewing angle usually 160° / 160° (typical) and VA/S-IPS will have wider viewing angle usually 178° / 178° (typical).
Unfortunately not all manufacturer advertise the panel they use, so using viewing angle is the most accurate way to know the panel used
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QUOTE(valho @ Mar 17 2009, 10:00 PM)
..... TN panel will always have a more narrow viewing angle usually 160° / 160° (typical) and .....
Most TN panels now boasts 170° (horizontal)

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Mar 18 2009, 10:00 AM)
Most TN panels now boasts 170° (horizontal)
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yeah I did saw some at dell with 160° / 170° viewing angle at Dell site. This makes it harder to see whether the panel is TN or VA/S-IPS since I think most ppl at the shop doesn't know what panel is used on the LCD they are selling and not all manufacturer advertise it
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QUOTE(valho @ Mar 18 2009, 10:09 AM)
yeah I did saw some at dell with 160° / 170° viewing angle at Dell site. This makes it harder to see whether the panel is TN or VA/S-IPS since I think most ppl at the shop doesn't know what panel is used on the LCD they are selling and not all manufacturer advertise it
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Well.... once can assume pretty well based on the price. I can confidently say that most LCDs selling out there are TN panel.
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Heh, just updated to the 24" club from my old viewsonic 20" and all i can say is...

the Dell 2408WFP RAWKS! Still bloody expensive but it seemed to me the only one with all the interconnects. The HDMI-in and the audio HDMI-out is great for my xbox 360. Working on getting my retro consoles - gamecube, xbox, dreamcast connected.

For pc use - movies, i suppose the extra 4" makes a difference, but the difference is really big when i try reading downloaded comics in full page mode.

Even though you can now get a 24" for less than RM700, the 2408wfp is damned worth it for me at least.

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looks like everybody prefer dell.....
is it that good.....?
thinking of getting a samsung t240.......
any advice....?
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mostly is personal preference I guess, I got my 2408 because I wanted a VA panel and also it has 5 years warranty and premium panel guarantee, which means I can exchange it even if there's only 1 dead/bright pixel.
And I don't think there's any other 24" that comes with the amount of input that the 2408 has
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QUOTE(valho @ Mar 18 2009, 10:09 AM)
yeah I did saw some at dell with 160° / 170° viewing angle at Dell site. This makes it harder to see whether the panel is TN or VA/S-IPS since I think most ppl at the shop doesn't know what panel is used on the LCD they are selling and not all manufacturer advertise it
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Dell listed their panel nowadays. and what's with the all TN panel nowadays Dell? demitt....even 24" is TN? come on,.....at least give us VA


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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 18 2009, 03:26 PM)
Dell listed their panel nowadays. and what's with the all TN panel nowadays Dell? demitt....even 24" is TN? come on,.....at least give us VA
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samsung 2333SW, samsung 2233SW & acer H233HQwhich 1 better?
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hehe i saw a 26" BenQ lying around in Lowyat yesterday tongue.gif

not listed at benq's website yet.
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QUOTE(valho @ Mar 18 2009, 03:30 PM)
yeah I know dell listed them, but most other manufacturer doesn't. Dell 24" VA panel, the 2408 went to small & medium business section instead of home smile.gif. looks like all dell VA panel went to  small & medium business section, only the 27" and 30" is still under home
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Ya lor, most of Dell LCDs are of TN panel. Luckily I was able to grab my Dell 2007WFP with great deal last time.
One thing I was curios about is how is my 2007WFP (S-IPS panel) compare to Dell 2209WA (E-IPS panel)?
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QUOTE(badguy86 @ Mar 18 2009, 07:58 PM)
Ya lor, most of Dell LCDs are of TN panel. Luckily I was able to grab my Dell 2007WFP with great deal last time.
One thing I was curios about is how is my 2007WFP (S-IPS panel) compare to Dell 2209WA (E-IPS panel)?
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2007WFP wins hands down out of the box without tuning. I still remember paying 2.4k for that yrs ago. I'm not that impressed with 2209WA, but at least it is cheap anyway or else I'll be kicking myself after that purchase.
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guys..im currently using a samsung T220 and im not sure if theres a problem with it..

while playing games especially football games like fifa or PES,there is quite a bit of ghosting (not sure if thats it) but the picture is not smooth especially when the ball crosses the screen..is this normal?

pictures are not sharp and smooth even with max setting and anti aliasing set to maximum..here are the details of my pc..

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Mar 19 2009, 02:06 AM)
guys..im currently using a samsung T220 and im not sure if theres a problem with it..

while playing games especially football games like fifa or PES,there is quite a bit of ghosting (not sure if thats it) but the picture is not smooth especially when the ball crosses the screen..is this normal?

pictures are not sharp and smooth even with max setting and anti aliasing set to maximum..here are the details of my pc..

core 2 duo 2Ghz
2Ghz RAM
ATI HD4850
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it should be fine if referring to your pc spec. izzit very high reso?. but i do notice PES uses a lot of graphic resources, since i need to play in low reso, compare to other games like COD4 or COH.
so IMO not ur pc spec, its the game itself hunger of graphic resources sweat.gif sweat.gif


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QUOTE(Kenvess @ Mar 18 2009, 04:22 PM)
samsung 2333SW, samsung 2233SW & acer H233HQwhich 1 better?
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I choose Samsung 2333SW for sake of large and good brand. maybe other forumers dat using acer lcd can justify their satisfaction in using ther monitor. me also wanna know drool.gif

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Mar 19 2009, 02:06 AM)
guys..im currently using a samsung T220 and im not sure if theres a problem with it..

while playing games especially football games like fifa or PES,there is quite a bit of ghosting (not sure if thats it) but the picture is not smooth especially when the ball crosses the screen..is this normal?

pictures are not sharp and smooth even with max setting and anti aliasing set to maximum..here are the details of my pc..

core 2 duo 2Ghz
2Ghz RAM
ATI HD4850
What resolution are those games running at? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Mar 19 2009, 09:35 AM)
it should be fine if referring to your pc spec. izzit very high reso?. but i do notice PES uses a lot of graphic resources, since i need to play in low reso, compare to other games like COD4 or COH.
so IMO not ur pc spec, its the game itself hunger of graphic resources sweat.gif  sweat.gif


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I choose Samsung 2333SW for sake of large and good brand. maybe other forumers dat using acer lcd can justify their satisfaction in using ther monitor. me also wanna know drool.gif
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What resolution are those games running at?  hmm.gif
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oh ok..im running the game at 1680 X 1050 for fifa..i thought its the monitor not being fast enough..because i did hear about CRT monitors being waay faster right?ive tried setting the resolution to the minimum and still i dont get the smoothness that i want..in fact,changing the resolution doesnt change anything..worse quality with no improvement in terms of the smoothness..
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I wanted to ask , got so many LCD , which LCD display is sharp for vga ?
I saw dell one is quite blur when reading words.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Mar 19 2009, 01:21 PM)
I wanted to ask , got so many LCD , which LCD display is sharp for vga ?
I saw dell one is quite blur when reading words.
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Is that Dell monitor running on native resolution?
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anybody try screen protector for dell 2409 in garage sale?
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Which one are you talking about? I saw one at HERE.
Is that the one? If that's the one, I'm buying it maybe this week tongue.gif
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axbx....please give us some feedback on the 24" screen protector when u received it smile.gif

i might wanna buy one too

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QUOTE(rsangel @ Mar 19 2009, 04:37 PM)
axbx....please give us some feedback on the 24" screen protector when u received it smile.gif

i might wanna buy one too
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yeah, sure thing... but RM22, is it a reasonable price?
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22 for a 24 inci screen protector ...okie la.(for me)

btw, u guys did call to dell to check S2409 warranty?
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QUOTE(rsangel @ Mar 19 2009, 04:46 PM)
22 for a 24 inci screen protector ...okie la.(for me)

btw, u guys did call to dell to check S2409 warranty?
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Ok then, i'll write it here once I got it smile.gif
Warranty wise, yeah, I've checked.. My S2409W purchased by a company, so I can't change the warranty's name. So if there's anything want to claim, or check, must provide the company name and the numbers. (Don't throw the box's sticker away)
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Well....just call them and ask them to drop a case no for u....
if any warranty issue, u can call them and give them the case no, they will do the rest smile.gif

i just did it yesterday =_="
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ic... the other day, i tried to get the case no. also... but can't get it sad.gif
nvm la... as long as the warranty is ok...
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Hi there can someone give me some advice
Plan to buy LCD monitor

DELL S2409W 24-Inch Specs
Viewsonic VX2260WM 22-inch Specs

Confuse now don know choice which one Budget only RM800
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budget? I'll go for S2409W for sure la..!! laugh.gif I have one, and not disappointing...smile.gif (u might wanna refer to the prev. ver. of this thread, have a lot of discussion about this LCD)
Try at Garage Sales, might have cheap one...

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S2409 for bigger screen ....
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Bro axbx , sorry cause me is a monitor noob
You using S2409w now ?
cause i will connect to My xbox also , are u try it before ?
for xbox using Hdmi
so far i read the thread before got very good rating and good response
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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 19 2009, 05:25 PM)
Bro axbx , sorry cause me is a monitor noob
You using S2409w now ?
cause i will connect to My xbox also , are u try it before ?
for xbox using Hdmi
so far i read the thread before got very good rating and good response
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I don't play console game on my S2409W(the only game is PS2's PES played at TV laugh.gif)

Several ppl in this thread play game with it, and feel ok.
Few ppl also concern about the "ms" thing, for games, afraid of ghosting and stuff.
Don't bother too much la, our human eyes will not able to see the 2-3ms difference, unless you are Superman or Hiro shocking.gif
So IMO, don't worry 'bout it.. It's HDMI, 24" and it's cheap..!! think can't complain much biggrin.gif

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Thank for the advice bro ..
Dell have a good reputation here,
bro you dell taking for how many year warranty >?

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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 19 2009, 05:39 PM)
Thank for the advice bro ..
Dell have a good reputation here,
bro you dell taking for how many year warranty >?
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3years la hehehe.... the minimum one...enough for me...
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^^
how much it cost for u when you buy ?
i will go buy S2409W this few day ,

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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 19 2009, 05:44 PM)
^^
how much it cost for u when you buy ?
i will go buy S2409W this few day ,
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Rm580 at Garage Sales tongue.gif
That time Dell suddenly dropped to RM699 from Rm999. So quickly grab it biggrin.gif
Gud luck dude, won't regret getting S2409W, I use it for watching movies and design mostly. Happy with it rclxms.gif
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Thank You Bro for the advice
not sure can get it at Low Yat Plaza ?
Or maybe wait the PIKOM PC Fair at KLCC
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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 19 2009, 06:08 PM)
Thank You Bro for the advice
not sure can get it at Low Yat Plaza ?
Or maybe wait the PIKOM PC Fair at KLCC
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Ur, if you can find at Garage Sales, ok lor...
LowYat Plaza, don't know ya... I seldom go to KL...
Dell doesn't sell to shops; if you really want "100% guarantee" then buy from Dell la, tongue.gif
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Dell offer S2409W RM779 now sad.gif
Promotions end today.
What is the new price tomorrow? brows.gif Don't increase please..
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hehe .. got thread sell RM720 for 5 year warranty ..
alot thing need to buy this
1.HDMI Cable (maybe go for Monster cable)
2.LCD Monitor (yo .. dell s2409w)
3.Speaker (not sure yet)

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Hey Guys,Which Is The Best Now?Prefer Samsung&HP..
Don't Want Dell S2409W..
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has anyone been able to wall mount a 22-24" monitor?
is there a universal bracket to do this? Using standard VESA mounts? Pics?

Need it as secondary monitor...since my PC is currently hooked up to my Aqous 37" 1080p which is also wall mounted...so twin wall mounts would look tidier...

For the Dell S2409W owners... what is the actual measurements of the visible panel?
The Dell site only lists the dimension of the screen together with the chassis
Dimensions (W x D x H):
22.72 inches (576.96 mm) x 8.76 inches (222.6 mm) x 16.39 inches (416.19 mm)

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QUOTE(yonggoh @ Mar 19 2009, 07:40 PM)
has anyone been able to wall mount a 22-24" monitor?
is there a universal bracket to do this? Using standard VESA mounts? Pics?

Need it as secondary monitor...since my PC is currently hooked up to my Aqous 37" 1080p which is also wall mounted...so twin wall mounts would look tidier...

For the Dell S2409W owners... what is the actual measurements of the visible panel?
The Dell site only lists the dimension of the screen together with the chassis
Dimensions (W x D x H):
22.72 inches (576.96 mm) x 8.76 inches (222.6 mm) x 16.39 inches (416.19 mm)

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Dell's have standard vesa mounts on most, if not all their monitors, their 22 and 24 inches surely have...

Again use the basic Pythagoras theorem/triangle you know the 16:9 ratio and the 24inch (60.96cm diagonal) simple calculation... or even a more detailed google search will do...

or simply times the dot pitch with 1080 and 1920.. you get the rough height and length

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QUOTE(JakzT @ Mar 19 2009, 07:28 PM)
Hey Guys,Which Is The Best Now?Prefer Samsung&HP..
Don't Want Dell S2409W..
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Of coz go for Samsung la bro..hehee... but that's me....
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Mar 19 2009, 12:40 PM)
oh ok..im running the game at 1680 X 1050 for fifa..i thought its the monitor not being fast enough..because i did hear about CRT monitors being waay faster right?ive tried setting the resolution to the minimum and still i dont get the smoothness that i want..in fact,changing the resolution doesnt change anything..worse quality with no improvement in terms of the smoothness..
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Probably you got RTA off or something.
I fiddled with the settings once and got visible ghosting.

Anyways, the settings from this site SHOULD help you out.

http://www.digitalversus.com/article-358-3448-36.html
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Honestly, I don't see any difference between a normal LCD monitor and my Dell Ultrasharp. Must I put the sharpness to 100% to see the real difference?
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Mar 19 2009, 06:24 PM)
Dell offer S2409W RM779 now  sad.gif
Promotions end today.
What is the new price tomorrow?  brows.gif  Don't increase please..
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i dont think the price will raise already kua.. i bought at RM589.. luckily smile.gif

QUOTE(JakzT @ Mar 19 2009, 07:28 PM)
Hey Guys,Which Is The Best Now?Prefer Samsung&HP..
Don't Want Dell S2409W..
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i think samsung not bad.. i own dell 2409 and no regret tongue.gif but my fren own samsung.. he no regret too..

from the diff of his 2333 and my 2409.. i think his design cooler tongue.gif and the colour is more vibrant (some say fake) tongue.gif

this is what i think.. hope can help u wink.gif
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QUOTE(JakzT @ Mar 19 2009, 07:28 PM)
Hey Guys,Which Is The Best Now?Prefer Samsung&HP..
Don't Want Dell S2409W..
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Try T240 ! drool.gif
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T240
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but the price around 1200
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Yup, but its price was drop a lot. Last time this LCD sell at RM1.5k
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QUOTE(Faint @ Mar 20 2009, 12:51 AM)
Yup, but its price was drop a lot. Last time this LCD sell at RM1.5k
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bro axbx
i using HDMI cable to my xbox
the monitor will got sound ?
then can i use the audio output connrct to my other speaker ?
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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 20 2009, 08:05 AM)
bro axbx
i using HDMI cable to my xbox
the monitor will got sound ?
then can i use the audio output connrct to my other speaker ?
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if u're refering to Dell S2409W, yes u can get the sound through HDMI from "Audio Out" on the monitor, n should be no audio fade in problem like before.
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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 20 2009, 08:05 AM)
bro axbx
i using HDMI cable to my xbox
the monitor will got sound ?
then can i use the audio output connrct to my other speaker ?
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Yes, there's your answer here below nod.gif
Another point for S2409W tongue.gif

QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 20 2009, 08:16 AM)
if u're refering to Dell S2409W, yes u can get the sound through HDMI from "Audio Out" on the monitor, n should be no audio fade in problem like before.
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yeah
so it mean i can connect my xbox by HDMI to monitor then using audio output to my speaker ?
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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 20 2009, 09:30 AM)
yeah
so it mean i can connect my xbox by HDMI to monitor then using audio output to my speaker ?
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yes ... that's 100% correct .... bcos i'm doing that ... biggrin.gif ...

but I got myself Edifier S530D speaker ... which have RCA, Coaxial, Optical input .... so sure no problem for audio connection.
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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 19 2009, 05:11 PM)
Hi there can someone give me some advice
Plan to buy LCD monitor

DELL S2409W 24-Inch Specs
Viewsonic VX2260WM 22-inch Specs

Confuse now don know choice which one Budget only RM800
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budget RM800 can buy samsung lcd edi nod.gif
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RM800 can buy samsung
but this 2 got HDMI
i prefer HDMI port
Samsung got HDMI = T240
T240 now price RM1200
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Mar 19 2009, 09:35 AM)
it should be fine if referring to your pc spec. izzit very high reso?. but i do notice PES uses a lot of graphic resources, since i need to play in low reso, compare to other games like COD4 or COH.
so IMO not ur pc spec, its the game itself hunger of graphic resources sweat.gif  sweat.gif


Added on March 19, 2009, 9:38 am
I choose Samsung 2333SW for sake of large and good brand. maybe other forumers dat using acer lcd can justify their satisfaction in using ther monitor. me also wanna know drool.gif
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now samsung 2333sw selling around RM699++


Added on March 20, 2009, 11:05 am
QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 20 2009, 11:00 AM)
RM800 can buy samsung
but this 2 got HDMI
i prefer HDMI port
Samsung got HDMI = T240
T240 now price RM1200
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how about acer H233HQ? hmm.gif unsure.gif

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samsung 2333sw is great but .. prefer can support FullHD 1080
HDMI

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Can feel the Graphic when playing My Xbox

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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 20 2009, 11:10 AM)
samsung 2333sw is great but .. prefer can support FullHD 1080
HDMI

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Can feel the Graphic when playing My Xbox
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I think most of the xbox360 games are only 720p capable
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actually is 720p only most of them
but if buy i prefer buy the better one .
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yeah... new thread!
support...
i am looking forward to my new LCD...
CRT is outdated already!


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QUOTE(macholiti @ Mar 20 2009, 11:43 AM)
yeah... new thread!
support...
i am looking forward to my new LCD...
CRT is outdated already!
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QUOTE(macholiti @ Mar 20 2009, 11:43 AM)
yeah... new thread!
support...
i am looking forward to my new LCD...
CRT is outdated already!
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Grab a full HD LCD monitor. thumbup.gif
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Anyone here using HP w2228h, w2207h, w2408h monitor? I jus wanna ask how do i set it to auto switch when i turn my monitor to portrait mode? I browse thro some video and whenever they turn thier monitor to potrait it will auto switch de. I've alredi installed those driver that i needed but still it wont auto switch and i got no idea how to do it manually too >.<

sry for asking noobie quest lolz
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QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 20 2009, 11:10 AM)
samsung 2333sw is great but .. prefer can support FullHD 1080
HDMI

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Can feel the Graphic when playing My Xbox
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Samsung 2333sw can't feel the graphic? unsure.gif
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Ahem..lol

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Dual S2409W ?
so Cool ..
don know why here all support Dell s2409w ?
i thinking buy it
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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Mar 20 2009, 02:38 PM)
Ahem..lol

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Wow ! Do you mind tell us the purpose of you use two monitors ?
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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Mar 20 2009, 02:38 PM)
Ahem..lol

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1 cpu 2 lcd? drool.gif drool.gif

QUOTE(Bibinoob @ Mar 20 2009, 03:10 PM)
Dual S2409W ?
so Cool ..
don know why here all support Dell s2409w ?
i thinking buy it
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ya lor, all here support dell s2409w
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bcso price does matter ... somemore Dell quality no bad.
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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Mar 20 2009, 02:38 PM)
Ahem..lol

user posted image
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I think he is using 2 dell 2209WA (e-IPS panel). looking from the position of the on/off button
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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Mar 20 2009, 03:25 PM)
I think he is using 2 dell 2209WA (e-IPS panel). looking from the position of the on/off button
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oh yeah ... the base of the stand also not round shape, it's rectangle.


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QUOTE(stormaker @ Mar 20 2009, 03:30 PM)
oh yeah ... the base of the stand also not round shape, it's rectangle.
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The two screens above is the Dell 2709W tongue.gif

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/p...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs

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So big...

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