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Haoliao
post Mar 10 2009, 07:08 PM

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currently i am thinking to buy a new 23/24" lcd , which of the following is the best factoring warranty, picture quality, reliability, service etc..i will be mainly using it for gaming , movie watching , picture viewing but almost none photo editing /printing....budget would be below RM 700 but hope to go as low as possible

viewsonic vx2433wm (heard it drop to 699 now..near dell price range.)
dell s2409
samsung 2333sw.

what other good option i missed?
beside what is the cheapest gc i should aim for to play game on 1900x1080?

thanks in advance

This post has been edited by Haoliao: Mar 10 2009, 07:09 PM
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post May 7 2009, 12:21 AM

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viewsonic vx2433wm beat samsung 2333sw outright? considering extra .6 inch in size and 2ms . how about durability issue?
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post May 13 2009, 12:20 PM

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from the spec p2350 seem better than t220 and 2333sw. anyone have used the lcd? think gonna buy sooon unless 2494hs can drop near rm 700. any other good suggestion around rm700?
Haoliao
post May 18 2009, 02:03 PM

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why samsung p2350 isnt listed on malaysia samsung site but it listed in australia and china site? any extra difficulty in rma?
Haoliao
post May 18 2009, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Riddhy @ May 18 2009, 06:18 PM)
hi singpore launced samsung t260hd with hdtv tuner @599 SGD

can anyone tell me how to buy it? from here? any services offered to buy from msia??
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wa...26' so cheap...maybe u go there at early june. think a fair will be going on too
Haoliao
post May 18 2009, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ May 18 2009, 07:42 PM)
you don't need 2 if you are not playing CRYSIS and GTA 4, the most notorious graphic abusive game in the world laugh.gif i'm gonna crammed up my 512MB GC 2 the max with other games with T240 next month rclxms.gif i'm not a native widescreen freak so 16:10 FTW icon_rolleyes.gif
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hmm..a slight off topic..who is the gals on your siggy. ;p
Haoliao
post May 24 2009, 05:49 PM

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any chance 24' or 23' inch lcd like 2494hs or p2350 will drop price within few weeks?
Haoliao
post May 25 2009, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ May 24 2009, 07:34 PM)
Just now i go to Pc shop..saw Acer H233H and samsung 2333sw display unit there..and prefer H233H due to the color that produce is more clear and sharp..btw, i would like to know more about samsung P2370 and 2494hs?what make them more expensive than 2333sw?
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From my recent googling, i found the following:

1) P2370 is using special screen material ( refer to china local samsung website) else it will be the same spec as P2350. It has same viewing dimension as 2333sw. Its design is outstanding. It lack vesa mount

2) 2494HS is 0.6 inch bigger (minimum 6cm higher and 12cm longer than P2370). Other plus is that this lcd got hdmi. I am not sure whether it come with free hdmi cable but i doubt so. One catch is that it used Chimei panel according to some chinese forum but i think it is reliable info. Some ppl reported issues with the hdmi port on ps3. Some ppl said it can be used on 120hz setting.

Both 1) and 2) are similar in price point. Go for P2370 if u willing to trade design&quality for extra 0.6 inch. Both of them are better spec/space than 2333sw.

3) Acer H233H. For me, its exterior design is on par with 2333sw. It has price tag below RM700 and come with free hdmi cable. The glossy screen type ( not sure if there is really two type in market) really made movie look goods if u can negate the reflection. However, ppl negative impression about acer brand and service still made me worry abit about post-purchase trouble.hehe

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post May 26 2009, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(blueapple @ May 25 2009, 10:43 PM)
just now i went to ALL IT lowyat kl. They have display samsung 2333sw, P2350, P2370, H2494HS, Acer H233H glossy, viewsonic 22 inch, AOC 24 inch. From my oppinion, 2333sw seems to display better graphic among all, AOC the colour is very fake, viewsonic is ok, and ACER the glossy makes me a bit head spin when looking at the movement of graphic in a movie.
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what u mean by display better graphic? only apply to still image or movie? u sure the setting are around the same? coz from spec, 2333sw seem to have the lowest contrast ratio (if those ratio really mean a thing ;p)..P2370 didnt shine? it seem to have the best screen material..

to bad from my town, i couldnt find dealer that display all of them side by side..

btw, does 2494HS come with a free hdmi cable?

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post May 27 2009, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(PootieTang_85 @ May 27 2009, 10:01 PM)
nope..suppose to be RM1099-RM300=RM799 for G2410
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how come when tried to key in coupon code, the price still RM1099. no discount..?
Haoliao
post May 31 2009, 08:42 AM

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I am thinking to buy H233H that shipped with 3 signal cable but i read that acer H233H seem to have weak black(grayscale). Is it noticeable for normal usage? during game? movie? browsing? If its color is as vivid as samsung 2333sw (or no noticeable degration) then i can buy the acer with peace in mind.

Hope can get some advise from ppl who actually compared it side by side. Buying soon.

P/s: will p2350 show better color?

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post May 31 2009, 05:17 PM

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Just bought the H2333H. Amazed by the color and the glossy screen. This lcd provided better viewing experience than the T220/2233sw/viewsonic va2226. It show no sign of color degradation even compared to crt(at least for me). Strongly adviced your guy to get it if u want budget big screen with hdmi (cable ;p) and around RM600+ price point.

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post May 31 2009, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ May 31 2009, 05:40 PM)
how much and where u bought it??
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hmm..display price is around RM670+ currently. But i manage to get some special discount at one of the major retailer shop in kota kinabalu. With RM670 i think the comparison still valid for reference purpose.

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post Jun 1 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ May 31 2009, 08:39 PM)
me too. RM670 in sibu..sabah & sarawak price is more expensive than west malaysia .the supplier tell me need to sell $ here expecially lcd..coz damm heavy..when i pay the money and take it, wah shen..damm heavy..feel like 2-3 laptop man..last time i no idea pick H233 or samsung 2333..in the end i choose H233 coz i feel its better and it got HDMI while samsung dont have..
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You are right that is is DAMN heavy. My hand felt exhausted just carrying it from outlet to carpark.hehe

QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 1 2009, 11:42 AM)
Bought a Samsung P2350 yesterday. Everything looks nice blah blah.. but I dont feel too confident about the stability of the thing. Just make sure you have a stable/sturdy table cause if you get excited playing games and push your table the monitor might topple overĀ  hmm.gif

Before that I looked at Acer H233H as well, retailing for about $640. Anyway, the colour looks much nicer etc cause of the glossy screen, BUT... it's a huge BUT... it's reflective as hell. If your room have any hint of light... you might find the reflections a tad distracting.

Just my 2 cents
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P2350 was actually top of my purchase list ranked before H233H after reading some online info and the exterior look. I actually willing to pay more for it knowing that it offer less feature/freebie. However, i think H233H have upper hand for ppl with low budget. The samsung model that matched its with similar connection is 2494Hs but with extra RM200. Reflection can always be counter with good repositioning. The glossy screen made it like a plasma for RM600. hehe..

One weakness so far could be the viewing angle seem restricting. You have to really tested it out to see what is your tolerable limit. When turn on ACM, the white was alsmot blinding.

One weird thing i found out that..my model is H233H Cbmid. not much info on the google except some chinese irrelavant link.

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post Jun 2 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 2 2009, 09:58 AM)
HDMI cable : Isnt that more or less the same as DIV cables? Both digital? (sorry I kinda didnt research too much into this subject).

H233H : They are using chimei lcd panel?

Anyway, yesterday when I finally installed the the samsung P2350..I noticed a black dot at the bottom left corner of the screen (about 2 inches away from the corner). OMG!!! Dead pixel!!!!  doh.gif  Samsung have a 7 days zero dead pixel tolerance policy... hope I can get a replacement from Viewnet.. gonna ask them later.
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From the net, i think samsung 2494hs use chimei panel. and most 23' panel are either samsung or lg. What is the dead pixel policy for acer?
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post Jun 2 2009, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Jun 2 2009, 08:48 PM)
hmm white and black?

why my LCD got one red dot? touch it and it will dissapear....strange. rclxub.gif
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I hope to get more information about dead pixel. My H233H seem to have lot of strange pixel.

On white/green/yellow background i saw some dot with light red or light green color. There is other type of pixel more bright then the surrounding.(e.g Ultra green near transparent when in green background.sometime u shift your head left-right a bit u notice it changed color slightly). Are those pixel allowed to claim warranty?

if count all the above i think it got like 10+ pixel...is it reasonable to claim for exchange? anymore detail about Acer policy?
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post Jun 3 2009, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jun 3 2009, 09:16 PM)
guys, last Q before buy lcd...
in my head i got 2 choices of lcd...
acer h233h and Dell s2309w...pls help me choose...TQ!!!
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If u on budget, h222h is way to go as it included hdmi cable. Size is good , color is superb for gaming movie(not for graphic desing). Just take note if u can tolerate the viewing angle(slight color shift). If the screen is mostly for your personal direct viewing than that is not a issue.

i check the warranty book. pixel policy is 4 dead pixel+1 in centre if not wrong and must carry-in

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post Jun 7 2009, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jun 6 2009, 11:34 PM)
i just came back from SG, wah... the philips LCD there is so famous... unlike in malaysia.
Samsung t260 for 630 SG i think... and 430 for 2494hs...
u guys should check out sim lim square for the t260
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hmm..430 for 2494hs isnt it more expensive than malaysia?


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