Was wondering what people think about it as I am interested in owning a house there someday.
Setia Homes website
Setia Alam project is under their Klang Valley area.
Setia Alam by SP Setia, Township project in Shah Alam
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Has anyone heard of this project in Shah Alam? I went to see the show houses there recently and some of the build up areas where people have moved in. I was impressed with the overall layout of the area.
Was wondering what people think about it as I am interested in owning a house there someday. Setia Homes website Setia Alam project is under their Klang Valley area. |
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it is very good project i would say.but abit too far for me , for now.
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QUOTE(billycomeback @ May 7 2007, 07:02 PM) Has anyone heard of this project in Shah Alam? I went to see the show houses there recently and some of the build up areas where people have moved in. I was impressed with the overall layout of the area. <<Was wondering what people think about it as I am interested in owning a house there someday. Was wondering what people think about it as I am interested in owning a house there someday. Setia Homes website Setia Alam project is under their Klang Valley area. For what purpose?? To live or invest?? Somehow, I believe Bukit Tinggi is better. Dreamer |
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 9 2007, 12:30 AM) <<Was wondering what people think about it as I am interested in owning a house there someday. More for living actually. But I will check out Bukit Tinggi when I have the time.For what purpose?? To live or invest?? Somehow, I believe Bukit Tinggi is better. Dreamer |
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I personally had did booking on it. Me too hunting for property and of course with limit budget. I had check bkt raja and setia alam. Both is just beside but is difference by its municipal, shah alam and klang.
What impress me with SA is the well develop plan and the traffic design. You don't see longkang or any poll there except lamp post. The road between houses is very wide. Density is good, near to NKVE but pay toll lar. |
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setia alam got good potential .....better be there...
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The cheapest house is 18x65, now the price is around 202k. New launch will be above 220k but slightly bigger built up area. The house design is not so great, if compare with others. For those lower price houses, they gave those power points and tv points very few. Imagine single tv point, and phone, no bell point or water heater, only single ac point.
Only thing is the area is plan by one developer, means the town planing is based on research and good planning before they decide where to buid what and what to build. If compare like other town area. There will be a lot of developers, some built a bit like this and like that , then this and that. It will makes the town area became congested. They build thouse in quite a big area where there are walking path and good and simple landscape. One big park for resident, and a football field as well. Schools are also planed in the town area. Not bad if you won't feel bad on the toll and distance. |
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Setia Alam is the best la, actually anything Setia is worth buying.
Why am I promoting? Because I've bought some Setia shares lo. LOL. But seriously, at least you know it's a very solid company. The CEO and the COO are geniuses. CEO is from Johor. Any Johor lang here? |
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flipped on the sun (tuesday, i think) just now. sp setia ecopark won an international fiabci award. proud of malaysia.
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QUOTE(quintessential @ Jun 8 2007, 08:51 AM) flipped on the sun (tuesday, i think) just now. sp setia ecopark won an international fiabci award. proud of malaysia. That true they did win.... not bad...Anyway I think SP Setia is a reliable developer and I've seen their housing development in Puchong. The residential area is nice planted with lots of greenery and a big central park together with several smaller niche playgrounds close to houses This post has been edited by aaronpang: Jun 8 2007, 04:28 PM |
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And all of their houses use clay bricks instead of sand bricks, therefore pushing up the construction cost.
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I thought only cheaper houses use sand brick. But I think most of the terrace using clay brick. I know clay brick is much hot becoz it easily adsorb heat. Correct me if wrong.
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QUOTE(billycomeback @ May 7 2007, 07:02 PM) Has anyone heard of this project in Shah Alam? I went to see the show houses there recently and some of the build up areas where people have moved in. I was impressed with the overall layout of the area. we bought a semi-d at Ecopark and will move in later this year. very impressed with the masterplan for Eco-park and hopefully, the home prices will continue to appreciate.Was wondering what people think about it as I am interested in owning a house there someday. Setia Homes website Setia Alam project is under their Klang Valley area. |
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Good area and house
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have seen this at Mapex.......the location = after the TTDI Jaya rite......
terrace from 250k....hmmm..... |
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QUOTE(limboonsiang @ Jun 7 2007, 11:17 PM) Setia Alam is the best la, actually anything Setia is worth buying. Hehe i m Johor lang actually batu pahat lah, and i've bought a unit there last august. Will be getting my keys this nov/dec. I think it'll be a great place to stay lah. Good planning and development, house price oso considered ok (when i bought my unit last year, now a bit expensive), and it's got potential to grow Why am I promoting? Because I've bought some Setia shares lo. LOL. But seriously, at least you know it's a very solid company. The CEO and the COO are geniuses. CEO is from Johor. Any Johor lang here? Anyone interested to buy please add me as referer hehe, i will get electrical appliances for free haha |
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Me too get myself one unit at Setia Alam. Now the housing trend is different. Is no longer wheather your house near town or not , or how big is your house. Now is more on township. Now you can have hypermarket anywhere. You might bought a nice house in one area, but who knows suddenly your surrounding area, build housed and building by other developer, making the area congested and pack. At then end become not planed area.
Setia Alam is different, the whole town area is developed by one developer and well planed. At least you know how is your living are in the future. |
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QUOTE(smwah @ Jun 20 2007, 08:58 PM) Me too get myself one unit at Setia Alam. Now the housing trend is different. Is no longer wheather your house near town or not , or how big is your house. Now is more on township. Now you can have hypermarket anywhere. You might bought a nice house in one area, but who knows suddenly your surrounding area, build housed and building by other developer, making the area congested and pack. At then end become not planed area. I went to Setia Alam today (3 times that i'd visited this project). Very tempted to get one of the unit there (Sheda 20x70) and even me n my wife brought all the document there for loan application as i thought i would place an order today but i returned home with empty hands. It was the distance and toll factors to hold me back as my office is in kepong.. i wonder if anyone of u guys facing this b4 you made de decision? Setia Alam is different, the whole town area is developed by one developer and well planed. At least you know how is your living are in the future. At the same time i m looking at one of the condo named dataran prima condo, i love the location n 2 car park each units, but of coz i prefer landed properties thats y i m in the dilemma |
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QUOTE(kko217 @ Jun 23 2007, 06:51 PM) I went to Setia Alam today (3 times that i'd visited this project). Very tempted to get one of the unit there (Sheda 20x70) and even me n my wife brought all the document there for loan application as i thought i would place an order today but i returned home with empty hands. It was the distance and toll factors to hold me back as my office is in kepong.. i wonder if anyone of u guys facing this b4 you made de decision? Hie Im from kepong also, and prefer landed property.At the same time i m looking at one of the condo named dataran prima condo, i love the location n 2 car park each units, but of coz i prefer landed properties thats y i m in the dilemma Try amansiara duplex townhouse, located along the selayang-rawang road, before templer park. Comes with with private parking (read:land right in front of your unit) and private staircase into your house. No toll, cost less than 200k. Just got one myself few months ago =) |
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Thx for the reply. i heard about this project too but never visit as it is nearby my office but very de far away from my wife office (her office is located in Shah Alam).. Therefore...she like Setia Alam very much. Anyway, i will make a purchase tomorrow for Setia ALam..
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QUOTE(kko217 @ Jun 24 2007, 12:28 AM) Thx for the reply. i heard about this project too but never visit as it is nearby my office but very de far away from my wife office (her office is located in Shah Alam).. Therefore...she like Setia Alam very much. Anyway, i will make a purchase tomorrow for Setia ALam.. Hi kko217, u making a purchase? Got any referer?? Hehe can add me as referer, Just asking, if u think it's offending then forget about it |
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Hehe no problem
I bought Serangoon 1. How bout u? I think i see ur nick in SARA b4. I m ataraxis there |
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yaya..i m a member of SARA. I bought a Sheda in SA..
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it will be completed in Q1 2009..still long way to go..Serangoon 1 quite nearby to Sheda...maybe visit ur place next time
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How much is the toll. Went there and with the toll price increasing is t still a good buy?
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winner of FIABCI the projects are definitely world class
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living in my new home since september 11th. am really enjoying my quiet neighborhood.
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Wah this thread quiet for so long ar? Any new / old SA owners here? Come and share share ur experience lah. I moved in May this year. So happy got my own place already and BSA is a very nice place to stay in
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SA resident here. Just got my unit recently. Busy looking for contractor for renovation. So any contractor can recomend at SA? I got Classic, Stilux, JackYong, Hong Yin.
I looking for auto gate, grill, L-Box ceiling, kitchen cabinet. |
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both also shah alam.
can anyone give me advice. setia alam or kota kemuning ? |
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hi, i facing this problem also. but it was in last year. i have bought a unit in Setia Alam. the main reason is the price in Setia Alam on that time is much cheaper than Kota Kemuning, the Indah Residence. but not sure how is the price diff between these 2 areas, as the Setia Alam increased quite a lot recently.
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me too having hard time to choose. i went to both location .seems kota kemuning have the better access road and already developed eventhough both also under shah alam.
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hello eveybody
im an owner of alisma:) Added on December 8, 2008, 10:36 amat setia alam man This post has been edited by rockstar teddy: Dec 8 2008, 10:36 AM |
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notyet done anything
mayn early next year...times are bad ur alisma? |
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thanks thanks
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damn shy la like dis..
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Hi quite interesting be a member too.
Anyone can briefly how far is SA to 1U, Midvalley? My office in Damansara height and my gf in Midvalley. |
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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Feb 18 2009, 10:58 PM) Hi quite interesting be a member too. SA to MV direct geographical distance is about 25km, driving distance (assuming using Federal highway) between 30 to 35km..Anyone can briefly how far is SA to 1U, Midvalley? My office in Damansara height and my gf in Midvalley. SA to 1U direct geographical distance is about 20km, driving distance (assuminng using NKVE) between 27 to 30km.. |
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I've been looking at the houses at Setia Alam..and I really do like em. However, I've been noticing that many houses have cracks appearing on them. Some houses even have their kitchen part sinking I was told. Does anybody know abt these problems?
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QUOTE(eugene jk @ Feb 18 2009, 11:31 PM) SA to MV direct geographical distance is about 25km, driving distance (assuming using Federal highway) between 30 to 35km.. @eugene, had u tried b4 drive to those place during peak hour morning and evening? How about the toll fees? SA to 1U direct geographical distance is about 20km, driving distance (assuminng using NKVE) between 27 to 30km.. Thanks for sharing those information.. QUOTE(klsestockreview @ Feb 19 2009, 01:09 AM) I've been looking at the houses at Setia Alam..and I really do like em. However, I've been noticing that many houses have cracks appearing on them. Some houses even have their kitchen part sinking I was told. Does anybody know abt these problems? I do read some user comments regarding this also.Owner of SA please comments. |
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hi, i m one of the owner. pls check to the following Setia Alam Forum.
http://www.setiaalam.net/sara/ |
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i have encountered some..bit not too very bad extent just some cracks on the plaster..n not the wall Added on February 20, 2009, 5:45 pmoverall everthing is ok..but some minor minor ones.. they have 3yrs warranty on their projects..so im ok with it This post has been edited by rockstar teddy: Feb 20 2009, 05:45 PM |
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Hi,
Went to Setia Alam last week, here to share some info and request some info, especially Setia Alam owner's welcomed to feedback! Distance from Setia Alam (Precint 7 main road) -> toll gates: - Subang Jaya - 12-13km - Damansara - 15km - Duta - 30km - KLCC - 43km Questions: 1) Does anyone work in KLCC / KL Sentral? How long do you take to get to work? 2) I understand that the area has appreciated quite a bit. Currently launches would seem a little pricey for it's lands size. But, most of the developments boast "maximum" build up, so you can get very big build-ups with small land. E.g. A 20x70 can get 2000+ sqf. Anyone think it's still worth investing? 3) I saw quite an interesting Semi-D cluster concept 30 x 55ft. The build up is actually only 20 x 55ft as there's 10ft of land beside the house. BU only 1700sqf. Not sure if easy to re-sell this type of "interesting" design. 4) According to developer, full development will have 40,000 units. Each household should have 2 cars so that will be about 80,000 cars. I'm still wondering how is that going to be sustained by one dual carriage highway? Are we looking at a future Puchong where the traffic backlog few km from the toll gates? This post has been edited by KeNNy: Jul 13 2009, 10:20 PM |
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i don't like this place...seem like isolated...is far from many places...eg go to KL city centre, Pavillion, mid valley..., puchong, cyberjaya, putrajaya, cheras,...is very far...and got to pay lots of toll... it is only near to shah alam, klang, and maybe subang.... |
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i of the same opinion too, however if you are contend to stay in instead of going out then you will really appreciate what the township has to offer
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Hi, I am considering to buy a link semi-D at the Precinct 6 of Setia Alam.
I am very impressed with the well-planned township concept of Setia Alam where the whole town area is developed by one developer.. and at least I know what sort of development/ building I will be expecting next to my neighbourhood. However, there is a vast piece of land right in front of the link semi-D which belong to another developer (I'm been told it's Sime Darby), that I do not know what Sime Darby is going to do with it. Does anyone has any insight on this? Thanks! |
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QUOTE(HW-Racer @ Jul 14 2009, 11:04 PM) i don't like this place...seem like isolated...is far from many places...eg go to KL city centre, Pavillion, mid valley..., I had the same mental barrier. After looking around, it's either one staying in a township and getting stuck in a jam around your township, or choose someone further and travel. I'm still on the fence for choosing either, but I decided to survey SP Setia (give chance) because: puchong, cyberjaya, putrajaya, cheras,...is very far...and got to pay lots of toll... it is only near to shah alam, klang, and maybe subang.... - I can't find good deals around the Klang Valley (for now). Condominiums are a bunch but would like to try avoid this if possible. - The SP Setia township looks promising. QUOTE(rockstar99 @ Jul 15 2009, 12:50 PM) Hi, I am considering to buy a link semi-D at the Precinct 6 of Setia Alam. There're a couple of Semi-D units by Setia Alam. Precint 6 (to me at least) is a good buy, if you have the cash.I am very impressed with the well-planned township concept of Setia Alam where the whole town area is developed by one developer.. and at least I know what sort of development/ building I will be expecting next to my neighbourhood. However, there is a vast piece of land right in front of the link semi-D which belong to another developer (I'm been told it's Sime Darby), that I do not know what Sime Darby is going to do with it. Does anyone has any insight on this? Thanks! It's near the Setia Alam Eco Park, and the land is for Semi-D / bangalow so generally be the 'upper class' community. However, it's a bit too pricey for me. |
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Jul 13 2009, 10:12 PM) Questions: I think the 30' x 55' semi-d link is a good concept. In Australia, it calls cluster home.3) I saw quite an interesting Semi-D cluster concept 30 x 55ft. The build up is actually only 20 x 55ft as there's 10ft of land beside the house. BU only 1700sqf. Not sure if easy to re-sell this type of "interesting" design. You can have a semi-d with land at low entry price. I am consider to invest in view of the old phase selling price is app. RM 260k, now the new launch is pricing at RM 365k. APPRECIATE MORE THAN RM100k within 3 years. |
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Jul 13 2009, 10:12 PM) Hi, Yeah, those semi-Ds are called Axillaris A/B, expected completion on mid-2011.. I had booked one unit of those last week and now waiting for loan approval. Went to Setia Alam last week, here to share some info and request some info, especially Setia Alam owner's welcomed to feedback! Distance from Setia Alam (Precint 7 main road) -> toll gates: - Subang Jaya - 12-13km - Damansara - 15km - Duta - 30km - KLCC - 43km Questions: 1) Does anyone work in KLCC / KL Sentral? How long do you take to get to work? 2) I understand that the area has appreciated quite a bit. Currently launches would seem a little pricey for it's lands size. But, most of the developments boast "maximum" build up, so you can get very big build-ups with small land. E.g. A 20x70 can get 2000+ sqf. Anyone think it's still worth investing? 3) I saw quite an interesting Semi-D cluster concept 30 x 55ft. The build up is actually only 20 x 55ft as there's 10ft of land beside the house. BU only 1700sqf. Not sure if easy to re-sell this type of "interesting" design. 4) According to developer, full development will have 40,000 units. Each household should have 2 cars so that will be about 80,000 cars. I'm still wondering how is that going to be sustained by one dual carriage highway? Are we looking at a future Puchong where the traffic backlog few km from the toll gates? About the property appreciation, let me give two examples here: My dad purchased an 18x65 unit at 180k (very very very early batch), two years later my bro bought another unit with same dimension at 240k. Now similar units with same BU is already selling at 340k.. Lagi fully sold out, and they announced second phase of same models will be released soon, at 360k.. So, the ROI is like 100% within 4 years.. However, for those who want to buy a house for staying there has to be careful. |
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QUOTE(sIncHan @ Jul 23 2009, 09:22 AM) Yeah, those semi-Ds are called Axillaris A/B, expected completion on mid-2011.. I had booked one unit of those last week and now waiting for loan approval. My understanding is the Axillaris is only at soft launch presently. Are we still entitle for 5/95 since it has ended on 19.07.09?About the property appreciation, let me give two examples here: My dad purchased an 18x65 unit at 180k (very very very early batch), two years later my bro bought another unit with same dimension at 240k. Now similar units with same BU is already selling at 340k.. Lagi fully sold out, and they announced second phase of same models will be released soon, at 360k.. So, the ROI is like 100% within 4 years.. However, for those who want to buy a house for staying there has to be careful. |
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QUOTE(AudiA6 @ Jul 23 2009, 10:11 AM) My understanding is the Axillaris is only at soft launch presently. Are we still entitle for 5/95 since it has ended on 19.07.09? Yeah, forgot to mention that it has not been officially launch yet.. If not mistaken, 95% of these units are sold liao.. remaining during the official launch.. About the 5/95 package, only bookings made latest by 19/07 are eligible for it.. In other words, those who buy after that has to bear the legal fees, stamp duty, bla bla bla.. |
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QUOTE(sIncHan @ Jul 23 2009, 10:25 AM) Yeah, forgot to mention that it has not been officially launch yet.. If not mistaken, 95% of these units are sold liao.. Wow! So good ah.remaining during the official launch.. About the 5/95 package, only bookings made latest by 19/07 are eligible for it.. In other words, those who buy after that has to bear the legal fees, stamp duty, bla bla bla.. Regret not book a unit. What the estimated sub sale price upon the VP? |
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QUOTE(AudiA6 @ Jul 23 2009, 12:36 PM) Yeah, we went on the last day, and it was like a pasar more than a showhouse.. everyone was picking their units, as if they were buying vegetables.. No idea on how much the value might appreciate, but according to those reps, they are launching new models with similar dimensions and the price would be around RM420k+.. To me, this house serves more for staying purpose.. unless it really appreciate that much to make me sell it la.. |
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QUOTE(sIncHan @ Jul 23 2009, 04:06 PM) Yeah, we went on the last day, and it was like a pasar more than a showhouse.. everyone was picking their units, as if they were buying vegetables.. U are currently stay at Kota Kemuning. Are u going to move there once it is completed?No idea on how much the value might appreciate, but according to those reps, they are launching new models with similar dimensions and the price would be around RM420k+.. To me, this house serves more for staying purpose.. unless it really appreciate that much to make me sell it la.. If the new launch is expected at RM 420k. Then the secondary market for Axillaris may sell at around RM 450k? Er..........not bad. How come Setia's houses are selling expensive and more expensive? |
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To be honest, I don't think the place can appreciate as quickly. Of course the newer phases should keep going up in price, but don't expect 100% appreciations
SA, however, is a good place to stay. Pay it a visit and you will get what I mean |
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QUOTE(AudiA6 @ Jul 23 2009, 05:42 PM) U are currently stay at Kota Kemuning. Are u going to move there once it is completed? Yeah, I have two years to save some money to do renovations plus wedding.. If the new launch is expected at RM 420k. Then the secondary market for Axillaris may sell at around RM 450k? Er..........not bad. How come Setia's houses are selling expensive and more expensive? My agent actually admitted that certain areas within the town are overpriced.. Thats why she herself actually encouraged me to buy first hand property while the 5/95 package is still available.. Subsales too expensive, and the buyer has to bear the legal fees plus stamp duties.. No developer warranty lagi.. QUOTE To be honest, I don't think the place can appreciate as quickly. Of course the newer phases should keep going up in price, but don't expect 100% appreciations smile.gif The older phases appreciation was due to NKVE, and because they were the 'first' residents of SA. If you're one of the 'firsts' it's always the cheapest. e.g. Subang USJ the first buildings appreciated by 150%-200% over 10 years. Also, in SA there's still quite a number of phases to be launch, so there will be still units available. You will need to wait 5-10 years for it's 'potential'. SA, however, is a good place to stay. Pay it a visit and you will get what I mean smile.gif I would agree with you that it is a nice place to stay, and has high potential to develop into another Subang. |
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QUOTE(sIncHan @ Jul 24 2009, 10:08 AM) I would agree with you that it is a nice place to stay, and has high potential to develop into another Subang. I read in the Star last monday that Tan Sri Liew of S P Setia mentioned that the Setia City will be completed in year 2011. If Setia City is successful in attracting the crowd, i am sure houses price in SA will appreciate significantly. But how is the quality of house build by S P Setia? |
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QUOTE I read in the Star last monday that Tan Sri Liew of S P Setia mentioned that the Setia City will be completed in year 2011. If Setia City is successful in attracting the crowd, i am sure houses price in SA will appreciate significantly. drool.gif But how is the quality of house build by S P Setia? I have heard that SA houses are built by two different contractors, of which one of them was lousy, and those houses built by them have serious crackings problems. You may drop by to areas like Bromera and you will shocked by looking at the cracks, esp those with extended kitchens.. Due to that, their contract was terminated, and new contractor comes in.. I do not know how far this can be true, but at least from my last few visits, the newly built houses are quite well done.. We need someone who from SP Setia to clarify this.. By the way, it seems we don't have many SA buyers in LYN.. |
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I've been following the developments in Setia Alam quite closely, but am not a resident myself. Here's what I gathered:
- Old phases has problems of soil settlement which caused cracking on walls. The older phases had backyards, and these areas are without piling e.g. porch, backyard are affected. Those who did extensions on top of these areas were the most impacted. - Reason for soil settlement was because it was a hack and slash operation and construction began immediately right after. So soil hasn't settled. New phases have less risk because: - Newer phases soil have 'settled' because it's been almost 5-6 years. - New phases are mostly, maximum build up without backyard. So you have more pilings and bigger foundation, at the same time developer charge you more for a bigger build up - SP Setia's reputation was badly damaged by the above. They openly admitted to the problem and we can only hope they will apply the new learnings. - Houses have 36 months warranty to buy back confidence? QUOTE read in the Star last monday that Tan Sri Liew of S P Setia mentioned that the Setia City will be completed in year 2011. If Setia City is successful in attracting the crowd, i am sure houses price in SA will appreciate significantly. But how is the quality of house build by S P Setia? Setia City is one mega development and will take another 10-15 years before it fully completes |
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dear all,
i am the resident of setia alam. u may find out more information about setia alam from our resident forum. hope u could obtain whatever info u wish to. http://forum.setiaalam.net/index.php |
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Info: Architect talk at Setia Alam Welcome Center Saturday, 8th August, 2:00 - 3:30pm.
Gives opportunity to understand the logic behind the way the house was designed, and ask some difficult questions |
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The Astronium 22x75 at RM408K is tempting. Location is the large land behind the Sales Galeria and opposite of this will be the Precint 1 which houses the Commercial Hub with 2 malls. Looks like a good investment
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kenny, u sure know alot about SA, so how many units u got there?
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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Aug 11 2009, 11:09 PM) The Astronium 22x75 at RM408K is tempting. Location is the large land behind the Sales Galeria and opposite of this will be the Precint 1 which houses the Commercial Hub with 2 malls. Looks like a good investment Oxandria and Xylia is directly behind the Setia Alam Welcome House (sales galleria). Astronium a bit more to the East, but also closer to the access road from NKVE and the G&G Precint 6 houses. Both are equally near to Precint 1 (Commercial hub). Precint 1 first mall estimated complete Christmas 2011 (to make it in time for christmas shopping?), while the entire hub will take a long time more to fully build - it's a really large piece of land there. If you are still deciding, just to add, getting an Astronium will be nice timing because the house also estimated complete Q3 2011 QUOTE(yumyum77 @ Aug 11 2009, 11:47 PM) kenny, u sure know alot about SA, so how many units u got there? Actually not too difficult to know about SA because their masterplans and show units are already completed in the sales gallery. Btw the 36 months warranty were already in place long before those serious soil settlement appeared. You know what you buy, how it looks like, and where it's located. Quite different from the traditional paradigm of buying landed houses solely from floor plans. Can't say I know much about SA - just learnt from the rest. Many people in the forum kswong directed you to know far much more. It all started when I was looking around quite a bit and a while to get my own property. I surveyed BK9, Alam Impian, KK, PH, USJ, Bkt Jelutong, Denai Alam. In the end decided SA. But well, that doesn't mean everyone will share the same cup of tea. Anyway, SA is for own stay The soil issue widely discussed quite heavily in the threads there. Some are happy with the developer being committed to helping residents solve their issues, some not too happy. Suggest you draw your own conclusions This post has been edited by KeNNy: Aug 12 2009, 07:44 PM |
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I'm one of the buyer in SetiaAlam(SA). I purchase the house in 2006 and till now I cannot go in despite having my 7feet backyard renovated. Why??
I remember the time when I collected the key, one of the site-supervisor follow me to the house to do the buy-off. When I step in, i saw the soil in my garden and backyard has sunk 10cm. I also can see clearly beneath my house. I did ask him why this cavity and he gently replied that they will close it with sand. Even after top up with sand, the soil sinks another 10cm and at some location my feet can sink 30cm after stepping on it. I made second complaint and this time SA use mixture of sand and cement to close the gap and finally cover it with full sand. I waited 6 months and I saw no more sinking and therefore started the construction. 1. Backyard - the ground beam is sinking due to soil settlement. The soil settle almost 2cm every 3months and until now SA cannot tell me when the settlement will stabalize. I was told that the soil in SA is marine clay and after doing reserach in net, many expert mention that the characteristics of marine clay not suitable for housing because the present of moisture will caused the soil to expand and during dry season it will shrink. This expand-shrink will cause soil errosion in long term. SA washed hand not responsible on renovated portionof the house because my contractor never do proper piling. If bakau piling cannot hold my 7x20feet structure what else to say further. Sa suggest us to do RC piling. Who in the hell will do RC piling to hold 7x20feet structure?? Are we building 5storey building. Because my house already extended my backyard completed on Mac2009 and it's already sinking. In May09 after heavy rain the first diagonal crack of 0.5mm appear on my column. In AUgust 2009, the crack widen to 5mm. My wall tiles also start cracking. SA suggest me to do underpining using API pipes which will cost me RM26k. This is most expansive and time consuming renovation. 2. The soil beneath the ground floor already sink at least 1feet. The master bedroom toilet sanitary pipe that come down under my living area floor is just sagging with any ground support because the soil settlement. I told SA to do the grouting to fill it up with concrete because I worry in 10-20yrs time, the elbow pipe joint will gave away. They said when the pipe burst they will act on it. This is not a answers I was expecting. Maybe they said my backyard extension damage is caused by my contractor not doing piling but how about the soil settlement beneath my house? Now the rat also srat staying inside and maybe in 10yrs time when some rat died below my living room, the smell will effect the owner. 3. The 1/2 of porch original fencing is net type. I replace it with brickwall. Now the wall both side is tilting and settling together with the main-gate pillars. The damages above not only for my house but also in my neighbours house. House they built on hill-cut have no issue but think 100-times when buying house on patches land. Pls visit link below for pictures http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2015...36&l=f0e883c2da This post has been edited by manjitsingh: Aug 13 2009, 12:03 PM |
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 12 2009, 07:38 PM) Actually not too difficult to know about SA because their masterplans and show units are already completed in the sales gallery. You know what you buy, how it looks like, and where it's located. Quite different from the traditional paradigm of buying landed houses solely from floor plans. Can't say I know much about SA - just learnt from the rest. Many people in the forum kswong directed you to know far much more. It all started when I was looking around quite a bit and a while to get my own property. I surveyed BK9, Alam Impian, KK, PH, USJ, Bkt Jelutong, Denai Alam. In the end decided SA. But well, that doesn't mean everyone will share the same cup of tea. Anyway, SA is for own stay The soil issue widely discussed quite heavily in the threads there. Some are happy with the developer being committed to helping residents solve their issues, some not too happy. Suggest you draw your own conclusions QUOTE Actually not too difficult to know about SA because their masterplans and show units are already completed in the sales gallery. You know what you buy, how it looks like, and where it's located. Quite different from the traditional paradigm of buying landed houses solely from floor plans. Can't say I know much about SA - just learnt from the rest. Many people in the forum kswong directed you to know far much more. It all started when I was looking around quite a bit and a while to get my own property. I surveyed BK9, Alam Impian, KK, PH, USJ, Bkt Jelutong, Denai Alam. In the end decided SA. But well, that doesn't mean everyone will share the same cup of tea. Same here, I was impressed with the whole SA concept thing a few years back when i visited their old sales gallery at p8. Dealing with their staff was easy, from sales to VP although there have been complaints lately about bad staff. I'm surprised how fast it is to get to kelana jaya,subang jaya and damansara using the NKVE, also shah alam city centre is just on the other side of the NKVE near the setia alam toll. Hopefully, they will build an access road either through the bandaraya/lebar daun development ( U11) or cahaya alam. QUOTE Some are happy with the developer being committed to helping residents solve their issues, some not too happy. Suggest you draw your own conclusions Happy or not, I think it equates to how severe the problems the owners have with their houses. Minor defects = happy, major ones will surely be a nightmare and leave a bad taste. manjitsingh, sorry to hear about your situation. |
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QUOTE(manjitsingh @ Aug 13 2009, 11:43 AM) I'm one of the buyer in SetiaAlam(SA). I purchase the house in 2006 and till now I cannot go in despite having my 7feet backyard renovated. Why?? I think this post is (manjit - it's your first post in lowyat) is not a very fair comment.I remember the time when I collected the key, one of the site-supervisor follow me to the house to do the buy-off. When I step in, i saw the soil in my garden and backyard has sunk 10cm. I also can see clearly beneath my house. I did ask him why this cavity and he gently replied that they will close it with sand. Even after top up with sand, the soil sinks another 10cm and at some location my feet can sink 30cm after stepping on it. I made second complaint and this time SA use mixture of sand and cement to close the gap and finally cover it with full sand. I waited 6 months and I saw no more sinking and therefore started the construction. 1. Backyard - the ground beam is sinking due to soil settlement. The soil settle almost 2cm every 3months and until now SA cannot tell me when the settlement will stabalize. I was told that the soil in SA is marine clay and after doing reserach in net, many expert mention that the characteristics of marine clay not suitable for housing because the present of moisture will caused the soil to expand and during dry season it will shrink. This expand-shrink will cause soil errosion in long term. SA washed hand not responsible on renovated portionof the house because my contractor never do proper piling. If bakau piling cannot hold my 7x20feet structure what else to say further. Sa suggest us to do RC piling. Who in the hell will do RC piling to hold 7x20feet structure?? Are we building 5storey building. Because my house already extended my backyard completed on Mac2009 and it's already sinking. In May09 after heavy rain the first diagonal crack of 0.5mm appear on my column. In AUgust 2009, the crack widen to 5mm. My wall tiles also start cracking. SA suggest me to do underpining using API pipes which will cost me RM26k. This is most expansive and time consuming renovation. 2. The soil beneath the ground floor already sink at least 1feet. The master bedroom toilet sanitary pipe that come down under my living area floor is just sagging with any ground support because the soil settlement. I told SA to do the grouting to fill it up with concrete because I worry in 10-20yrs time, the elbow pipe joint will gave away. They said when the pipe burst they will act on it. This is not a answers I was expecting. Maybe they said my backyard extension damage is caused by my contractor not doing piling but how about the soil settlement beneath my house? Now the rat also srat staying inside and maybe in 10yrs time when some rat died below my living room, the smell will effect the owner. 3. The 1/2 of porch original fencing is net type. I replace it with brickwall. Now the wall both side is tilting and settling together with the main-gate pillars. The damages above not only for my house but also in my neighbours house. House they built on hill-cut have no issue but think 100-times when buying house on patches land. Pls visit link below for pictures http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2015...36&l=f0e883c2da For the sake of clarity to other readers, perhaps a clearer picture could be obtained by viewing different parties of this long discussion, most of which manjit has been already involved. Suggest to visit the already lengthy discussion here, and make your own conclusions: http://forum.setiaalam.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114&start=750 This post has been edited by KeNNy: Aug 13 2009, 06:45 PM |
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 13 2009, 06:44 PM) I think this post is (manjit - it's your first post in lowyat) is not a very fair comment. Folks,For the sake of clarity to other readers, perhaps a clearer picture could be obtained by viewing different parties of this long discussion, most of which manjit has been already involved. Suggest to visit the already lengthy discussion here, and make your own conclusions: http://forum.setiaalam.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114&start=750 1) If you have ANY doubts, do not buy new house. Let OTHERS take the risk. Buy one or two years old house. You may pay 10% or 20% more but compare to having a house with sinking foundation, it is better. 2) My family has been in Klang for 150+ years. So, we know that area's history quite well. 3) It is VERY SIMPLE. Buy the house on the higher ground side of this area. Then, you avoid all this problem. How do you know which part is on the higher ground?? The OLD Klang resident know this. 4) Setia Alam has enough land to build over the next 20 years. There is NO NEED to rush. Dreamer |
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 13 2009, 06:57 PM) Folks, Hi dreamer, can you please clarify on 2 and 3. I'm sure everyone here would like to know.1) If you have ANY doubts, do not buy new house. Let OTHERS take the risk. Buy one or two years old house. You may pay 10% or 20% more but compare to having a house with sinking foundation, it is better. 2) My family has been in Klang for 150+ years. So, we know that area's history quite well. 3) It is VERY SIMPLE. Buy the house on the higher ground side of this area. Then, you avoid all this problem. How do you know which part is on the higher ground?? The OLD Klang resident know this. 4) Setia Alam has enough land to build over the next 20 years. There is NO NEED to rush. Dreamer |
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QUOTE(yumyum77 @ Aug 13 2009, 07:02 PM) yumyum77,If you live in that area long enough, you know which part of the land is soft and tend to be flooded over the long period (50 years). And, you know which part of the land is on the higher ground. This is a COMMON problem of building house on Palm Oil Estate land. 10+ years agao, I was looking at some houses at USJ. They have the same foundation problem too. Dreamer |
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 13 2009, 07:09 PM) yumyum77, Which part dreamer? North, south? the area nearer to jln meru?If you live in that area long enough, you know which part of the land is soft and tend to be flooded over the long period (50 years). And, you know which part of the land is on the higher ground. This is a COMMON problem of building house on Palm Oil Estate land. 10+ years agao, I was looking at some houses at USJ. They have the same foundation problem too. Dreamer |
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The new foundations are different and again, becomes less relevant. If one really decides to get a place, would strongly suggest to look into the details, and rather than getting trapped in the generalizations. This will allow you to have enough information to make a good decision, avoid risks, and most importantly not lose opportunities.
Anyway to answer your question, refer to this map - although it is less relevant in new design - but if you want to buy something absolutely on higher ground - then it's a good reference: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3632/364197...0aa504e19_o.jpg Here are some general statements common - which all turns out to be wrong!: - USJ / Subang during that time had mention air plane could crash or leak petrol on top of Subang houses? - USJ palm oil estate - foundation issues - Sunway & Puchong on top of ex-mining area - so lousy land? - Kota Kemuning near sea level - so not safe? - Sentul old area - can never develop? - Netherlands below sea level so very dangerous? - Singapore's buildings are build on top of reclaimed land made from sand? - Dubai's tallest tower is build on top of structurally modified island - how can it be safe? - etc Moral: Data can be interpreted in many ways - just be aware of the different bad (and good) views, and odn't jump to conclusions so quickly. This post has been edited by KeNNy: Aug 13 2009, 11:54 PM |
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 13 2009, 07:09 PM) yumyum77, I have a few houses in USJ. I think it is fine so far...hmmmIf you live in that area long enough, you know which part of the land is soft and tend to be flooded over the long period (50 years). And, you know which part of the land is on the higher ground. This is a COMMON problem of building house on Palm Oil Estate land. 10+ years agao, I was looking at some houses at USJ. They have the same foundation problem too. Dreamer Added on August 13, 2009, 11:47 pm QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 13 2009, 09:15 PM) yumyum77, Dreamer, Help yum yum la....That is why forum is for..Help everyone...Sharing is Caring...1) I would not do that for you. 2) Why are you doing this?? Just do not buy a new house. Prevention is better than cure. Dreamer This post has been edited by arsenal: Aug 13 2009, 11:47 PM |
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Aug 13 2009, 11:46 PM) I have a few houses in USJ. I think it is fine so far...hmmm Indeed, making decisions based on sweeping statements and you would have lost the opportunity in USJ also Only market analysts do that. What were they analysing on the market before the crash happened? The real decision makers, will look more in the details. Data is there, information is there, make your own decision This post has been edited by KeNNy: Aug 13 2009, 11:53 PM |
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 13 2009, 11:40 PM) The new foundations are different and again, becomes less relevant. If one really decides to get a place, would strongly suggest to look into the details, and rather than getting trapped in the generalizations. This will allow you to have enough information to make a good decision, avoid risks, and most importantly not lose opportunities. Yup i know about the new foundations/design and all. Since this dreamer says his family stayed in the area for 150 years, it would be interesting to hear what he got to say Anyway to answer your question, refer to this map - although it is less relevant in new design - but if you want to buy something absolutely on higher ground - then it's a good reference: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3632/364197...0aa504e19_o.jpg Here are some general statements common - which all turns out to be wrong!: - USJ / Subang during that time had mention air plane could crash or leak petrol on top of Subang houses? - USJ palm oil estate - foundation issues - Sunway & Puchong on top of ex-mining area - so lousy land? - Kota Kemuning near sea level - so not safe? - Sentul old area - can never develop? - Netherlands below sea level so very dangerous? - Singapore's buildings are build on top of reclaimed land made from sand? - Dubai's tallest tower is build on top of structurally modified island - how can it be safe? - etc Moral: Data can be interpreted in many ways - just be aware of the different bad (and good) views, and odn't jump to conclusions so quickly. Basically, from your google map/earth tool the blue areas are all lower ground, am I correct? Almost all area at the south side of P8 is on lower ground and that's where the early phases are. North side of p8 is on higher ground, it gets higher as we move east towards p6 and then to the highest place in SA.(except for the northern part of p7). We wouldn't know if there was a stream or ponds that were filled when they cleared the land unless we dig out some info from some gov dept I still believe this is a nice place to stay despite the serious soil settlement issues experienced by some owners. It would be interesting to see SP Setia's response to this problem... too much is at stake to let it pass as word gets around fast ( i'm already contributing to it) |
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hello miss captain obvious.
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Kenny,
The link below already block by setial alam developer. If you think they're rightful why they want stop this topic. Why do they interfere?? Turth is always painful but the mistake their contractor did in buiding the phase1 is what the pain I'm going through now. I started renovation since Dec08 and until now I cannot move in because this problem. If the cavity under my house that happen due to soil settlement is not fillied in, in 10-20yrs thousand or millions of cockroaches or even rats will be nesting under our houses. When cockroach die we won't know but we will sure know when rat die beneath our house. The bandar setia alam managemant are not telling the truth to their boss Tan Sri Liew. i soon will be lodging police report under civil law against this tan sri for cheating me and giving me low cost quality house. http://forum.setiaalam.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=114&start=750 I'm only earn RM3800 per month and pay RM1100 to citibank for my loan and this is the most expansive stuff i bought in my life so far and most likely i will be paying for it until my head hair turn white. But the stupid tan sri already sucking my blood and living in luxury life. I curse him that he and his family will die from cancer in most painful manner. bastaaaard.......... |
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Aug 14 2009, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 13 2009, 11:40 PM) The new foundations are different and again, becomes less relevant. If one really decides to get a place, would strongly suggest to look into the details, and rather than getting trapped in the generalizations. This will allow you to have enough information to make a good decision, avoid risks, and most importantly not lose opportunities. KeNNy,Anyway to answer your question, refer to this map - although it is less relevant in new design - but if you want to buy something absolutely on higher ground - then it's a good reference: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3632/364197...0aa504e19_o.jpg Here are some general statements common - which all turns out to be wrong!: 1) Most people ONLY buy one house in their life. If they bought ONE with foundation problem, they are done. 2) I had seen brand new USJ house with cracked wall with foundation problem. This is NOT a generalization. 3) Consumer protection law in Malaysia is WEAK. So, buyer beware. Dreamer P.S.: I DO NOT UNDERSTAND why people rushing to buy house?? A) Economy is not going to do well any time soon. B) Setia Alam has enough land to build for 20 years. There are plenty of houses to choose from. C) Seriously, over the long run (20 years), I have not seen house price in Klang and Shah Alam appreciated that much. This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 14 2009, 07:12 PM |
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Fri morning when I was heading to Setia Alam, I discovered one thing.
HAZE. Very serious haze. Courtesy of our neighbour (although the culprit might be Malaysian). |
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Aug 15 2009, 12:25 AM
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Dreamer,
I respect your opinions and comments. Again, I can only suggest to go into the details. But fair enough if you think Setia Alam isn't a good place. It's just different cups of tea However, I don't think Setia has 20 years of residential land bank there - where did you get this from? Maybe you can advice where would be a good place for those who are looking to invest, or those who are looking for a place to stay. It will be nice to share the results of your research comparing other locations. It gives an option to forumers here who are looking for properties elsewhere. manjit, You've seen the replies Put this behind you for a moment. The members in the forum has continously tried to help you - I think they may have given up. But seriously, please consider. I don't see how you can solve anything by cursing others. The rule of Karma. For other news, just to share some news on Precint 1 upcoming Setia Mall - for those interested. Make your own interpretations Another location I could think of having 3 major anchor tenants are 1Utama (Metrojaya, Jusco, Parkson) and MidValley (Jusco, MetroJaya, Carrefour). Source: http://star-space.com/news/story.asp?file=...17244&sec=pnews QUOTE SP Setia gets three anchor tenants for Shah Alam mall By EUGENE MAHALINGAM SHAH ALAM: SP Setia Bhd has secured three major anchor tenants for the first phase of its Setia City Mall in Setia Alam, Shah Alam, says president and chief executive officer Tan Sri Liew Kee Sin. “Unfortunately, we cannot reveal who they are for now. So far, we have also spoken to about 50 potential retailers for the mall and expect a full take-up by the time construction is completed by end-2011. “Construction is expected to begin within the next two months,” Liew said after an agreement signing between Greenhill Resources Sdn Bhd and CIMB Bank Bhd, Public Bank Bhd and Affin Bank Bhd for a RM315mil syndicated loan facility. Greenhill Resources is a 50:50 joint venture between SP Setia and Lend Lease Asian Retail Investment Fund 2 Ltd. The event was witnessed by Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim. Lend Lease, which has operations in Australia, Asia, Europe, the Middle East and the United States, is the mall’s designer while SP Setia is the developer. The first phase will have a net lettable area of about 700,000 sq ft and comprise a department store, 250 local and international specialty stores, major anchor retailers and an entertainment precinct. Its gross development cost is RM450mil. The mall includes access to about 2,000 parking lots and easy connectivity to nearby roads, towns and major highways. “It is targeted at the mid to high-end income group and we hope to attract retailers that cater to that demographic,” Liew said, adding that construction of the second phase would depend on response to the first phase. “But we plan to begin construction of the second phase in five years.” SP Setia chairman Tan Sri Abdul Rashid Abdul Manaf said the mall was expected to “dramatically enhance” Shah Alam’s shopping experience and appeal to the growing population in the area. “Setia Alam has over 20,000 new residents and is expected to grow to over 50,000 by the time the mall opens,” he said. CIMB group chief executive Datuk Seri Nazir Razak said the shopping centre was the first mall in Malaysia to be financed since the global economic downturn. “This project is timely, given the quiet market currently in light of the economic climate. “This also shows that banks will still lend if the development is a good quality project,” he said. Nazir said local developers should not shy away from projects due to the downturn. “A crisis always presents opportunities,” he said. For reports from the Statistics Department click here This post has been edited by KeNNy: Aug 15 2009, 12:35 AM |
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Aug 15 2009, 12:57 AM
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manjit, cool down a bit. cursing people can't solve the problem.
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Aug 15 2009, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 13 2009, 11:52 PM) Indeed, making decisions based on sweeping statements and you would have lost the opportunity in USJ also Agree...Parents bought in 1992 around 110k and now around 400k...Now finding a tenant for the USJ 9 one..Anyone?...Only market analysts do that. What were they analysing on the market before the crash happened? The real decision makers, will look more in the details. Data is there, information is there, make your own decision I think depends on invidual perception towards USJ houses...Some say nice, some say too congested, Some say traffic jam...I already used to all of that already.... |
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Aug 15 2009, 03:52 AM
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kenny, some people 'paint' a bad picture of something possibly for their own gain. everyone got their own agenda when they post in this thread
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Aug 15 2009, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 15 2009, 12:25 AM) Dreamer, KeNNy,I respect your opinions and comments. Again, I can only suggest to go into the details. But fair enough if you think Setia Alam isn't a good place. It's just different cups of tea However, I don't think Setia has 20 years of residential land bank there - where did you get this from? http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_alam/ << Setia Alam is an integrated development spanning over 2,500 acres of freehold land slated to become one of the biggest and best-planned townships in the Klang Valley. Consisting of residential, commercial and institutional parcels, this township is well supported by functional features and facilities that combine an eco-sensitive lifestyle living truly "In Touch with Nature".>> Setia Alam has 2,500 acres land bank. So, how many acres had been developed?? http://www.spsetia.com.my/corporate_websit...esentation7.asp See the slide Setia Alam has 2,290 acres. 1,104 acres are not developed. Setia Eco Park has 798 acres. 459 acres are not developed. <<But fair enough if you think Setia Alam isn't a good place.>> I did not said whether Setia Alam is or is not a good place. I am just saying that check and make sure that your house is on solid ground or high ground before you buy. Now, whether someone make money or do not make money on USJ house is IRRELEVANT too. Just make sure that you do not buy an USJ house with cracked wall and bad foundation. Most of us only buy one house. So, make sure that the house that we bought is on a good solid foundation or we will face serious problem. Dreamer This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 15 2009, 05:29 AM |
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Aug 15 2009, 11:07 AM
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dreamer,
Thanks. I've seen those slides. 1) Setia Alam started somewhere in 2002/03. It's been about 7 years, and from the report 1100 acres has been developed, and about 1100 acres left. So I'm struggling to see how the remaning 1100 acres will last 20 years, since the first half only took 7 years. SA was also one of the few townships that has full road infrastructure during infant stages of township. E.g. NKVE link was there when only 10% of their land bank was developed? So they have a reason to speed their development. In comparison, e.g. Sime Darby builds their infrastructure only after their township matures. E.g. Putra Heights, Denai Alam, USJ - took a very long time before connectivity to major roads were completed. No right or wrong, both have different models of development. But I think for house buyers they will prefer to have infrastructure ready, rather than infrastructure built after they shift in. 2) I see your point that one can wait a while longer before purchasing because there's land. Fair enough, only maybe need to be careful that every new launch has seen prices increasing from 5-10%. With Setia City's recent announcement, it's now becomes guess work how much the new undeveloped phases will rise in price. But since it's guess work, so it's best leaving it to the buyers to decide for themselves. But just be caution about the price risks you'll get into for waiting. This post has been edited by KeNNy: Aug 15 2009, 11:14 AM |
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Aug 15 2009, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 15 2009, 11:07 AM) dreamer, KeNNy,Thanks. I've seen those slides. 1) Setia Alam started somewhere in 2002/03. It's been about 7 years, and 1100 acres has been developed, and about 1100 acres left. So I'm struggling to see how the remaning 1100 acres will last 20 years, since the first half only took 7 years. SA was also one of the few townships that has full road infrastructure during infact stages. E.g. NKVE link was there when only 10% of their land bank was developed? So they have a reason to speed their development. In comparison, e.g. Sime Darby builds their infrastructure only after their township matures. E.g. Putra Heights, Denai Alam, USJ - took a very long time before roads were completed. No right or wrong, both have different models of development. But I think for house buyers they will prefer to have infrastructure ready, rather than infrastructure built after they shift in. 2) I see your point that one can wait a while longer before purchasing because there's land. Fair enough, only maybe need to be careful that every new launch has seen prices increasing from 5-10%. With Setia City's recent announcement, it's now becomes guess work how much the new undeveloped phases will rise in cost. But since it's guess work, so it's best leaving it to the buyers to decide for themselves. But just be caution about the price risks you'll get into for waiting. << 1) Setia Alam started somewhere in 2002/03. It's been about 7 years, and 1100 acres has been developed, and about 1100 acres left. So I'm struggling to see how the remaning 1100 acres will last 20 years, since the first half only took 7 years. SA was also one of the few townships that has full road infrastructure during infact stages. E.g. NKVE link was there when only 10% of their land bank was developed? So they have a reason to speed their development. >> You are SPECULATING. It could be faster or slower. I have a VERY LONG memory. I guess I remember when it was launched, it was a 20 years project. If we go by history, it could be 7 more years if the demand stay the same. << 2) I see your point that one can wait a while longer before purchasing because there's land. Fair enough, only maybe need to be careful that every new launch has seen prices increasing from 5-10%. >> So what?? A) Pay 10% to 20% more for 2 years' old house versus B) Losing 100% on a house with a foundation problem?? Most people ONLY buy one house in their life. This is ONE of the BIGGEST purchase in their life. Comparing (A) versus (B), which one is a more reasonable approach?? Don't RUSH into making any large purchase. There are at least a few more years in this project. Why rush? Be very careful. Dreamer This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 15 2009, 11:32 AM |
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Aug 15 2009, 11:26 AM
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Kenny,
pls get you fact right and don't confuse others here. I'm complaining the soil settlement 1feet beneath the ORIGINAL house not the renovated portion. Eventhough the ORIGINAL house have no issue but the CAVITY beneath my house is my large concern. I worried if soil settlement didn't stop it will effect the underground services such as cold water, sanitary and sewerage pipes. I'm not talking for next 3-5yrs but I'm serious of what could happen in next 10-20years time. My sanitary pipe is already sagging without ground support and this includes my neighbour's house. You know what will be the cost for you to repair this sanitary pipes if it burst in 10years time? For some maybe cost is not the factor but remember the hassle and whole lot of the living hall need to be hacked to find the leaking pipe that causes the foul smell. I'm an Engineer and I knew every material use in construction has shelf life including the PVC glue they use to stick those elbow joint on the uPVC pipes. Another of my concern is that this cavity will become the breeding ground for rat and cockroaches. THe household gonna have tough time controlling this creature and I have photograpgh taken to proog this. Next 20years, whole neighbourhood will have plenty of rat and cockroaches and the damage sanitary pipes will provide them the organic food. Anyone want to welcome this experience, please go ahead to purchase them. It;s not only my house but entire neighbourhood is what I'm concerning. I prefer to live in clean and healthy environment. I don't prefer in 20yrs time we will see rat a siza of cat running across the roads while you are having a cup of tea on you balcony. Added on August 15, 2009, 11:45 amKenny, I got one more question to ask you. Why setia alam building new house with large built-up area? Only 3feet land is left over behind for septic tank. Is this standard MBSA building plan?? Why do they change the standard plane. The first phase where i'm staying, the house built up for 20x70 is around 1440sqft and got 10feet land on the backyard but their new houses the built up for 20x70 is nearly 1700sqft and only got 3feet land on the backyard. Only people without confidence in their soil will build the houses such a way. This post has been edited by manjitsingh: Aug 15 2009, 11:47 AM |
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QUOTE You are SPECULATING. It could be faster or slower. I have a VERY LONG memory. I guess I remember when it was launched, it was a 20 years project. If we go by history, it could be 7 more years if the demand stay the same. To be fair, I don't think I am. I didn't not make any statements mentioning there's still 20 years left in the landbank. You did, remember? QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 15 2009, 11:19 AM) A) Pay 10% to 20% more for 2 years' old house versus B) Losing 100% on a house with a foundation problem?? Was this also the basis of your decision for avoiding Subang/USJ houses during the 1990s because it has foundation issues? I'm sure most USJ buyers in the 1990s were very happy with their purchase. Many would laugh at the statement, but I respect you have a different view. Maybe you got something more attrative, in that case I suggest you share. Giving advice to everyone without no alternative, is not the best use of time for readers here. |
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 15 2009, 11:19 AM) A) Pay 10% to 20% more for 2 years' old house versus B) Losing 100% on a house with a foundation problem?? Most people ONLY buy one house in their life. This is ONE of the BIGGEST purchase in their life. Comparing (A) versus (B), which one is a more reasonable approach?? Dreamer kenny, don't mind the guy, he likes to give cryptic answers all the time. |
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Aug 15 2009, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 15 2009, 02:47 PM) dreamer, KeNNy,Was this also the basis of your decision for avoiding Subang/USJ houses during the 1990s because it has foundation issues? A) I have my OTHER reasons to avoid USJ houses. B) I told you that I saw houses in USJ with lousy foundation and the wall cracked due to weak foundation. Dreamer Added on August 15, 2009, 7:47 pm QUOTE(yumyum77 @ Aug 15 2009, 05:11 PM) That's just what 'manjitsingh' did, purchasing a second hand property. yumyum77,kenny, don't mind the guy, he likes to give cryptic answers all the time. <<'s just what 'manjitsingh' did, purchasing a second hand property.>> A) A buyer had a completed house to look at. And, he still have problem. So, imagine the RISK that a buyer without a COMPLETED HOUSE to look at. B) So, this just tell you that some problem take longer to show up. Or, you need BETTER SKILL to look out for those things. Do not make mistake that you can learn from OTHERS. <<likes to give cryptic answers all the time.>> C) I prefer to let the READER do the THINKING. We have enough SPOON FEEDING going around. D) If the READER couldn't care less about their money, why should I worry for them??? Dreamer This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 15 2009, 07:47 PM |
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 15 2009, 02:47 PM) To be fair, I don't think I am. I didn't not make any statements mentioning there's still 20 years left in the landbank. Actually, the house that I am living is around 18 years plus and no issue so far..You did, remember? dreamer, Was this also the basis of your decision for avoiding Subang/USJ houses during the 1990s because it has foundation issues? I'm sure most USJ buyers in the 1990s were very happy with their purchase. Many would laugh at the statement, but I respect you have a different view. Maybe you got something more attrative, in that case I suggest you share. Giving advice to everyone without no alternative, is not the best use of time for readers here. Maybe it depends on luck...I will go see around my neighbourhood and see got any crack or not... |
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Aug 15 2009, 10:09 PM) Actually, the house that I am living is around 18 years plus and no issue so far.. arsenal,Maybe it depends on luck...I will go see around my neighbourhood and see got any crack or not... I concur. I've also been living 15 years in USJ, have tons of friends living here > 15 years. None of us are having problems with USJ, foundations or what so ever. I can only admit we struggle with traffic jams. Anyway, will leave it as that Just got some confirmation that Setia Mall will have cinemas! Seems like the only location in Shah Alam with cinemas. They've had a new model of the mall at the sales gallery. |
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Aug 16 2009, 08:40 AM
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Kenny how come you are avoiding my question below?? I suspect you guys are not residence but sales representative from Setia Alam. Just to make sales by hookm or crook. Pls answer my question below!!!WHY WHY WHY!!!!!!!
Added on August 15, 2009, 11:45 amKenny, I got one more question to ask you. Why setia alam building new house with large built-up area? Only 3feet land is left over behind for septic tank. Is this standard MBSA building plan?? Why do they change the standard plane. The first phase where i'm staying, the house built up for 20x70 is around 1440sqft and got 10feet land on the backyard but their new houses the built up for 20x70 is nearly 1700sqft and only got 3feet land on the backyard. Only people without confidence in their soil will build the houses such a way. |
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Aug 16 2009, 10:31 AM
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I am not sales representatives...I am landlored of a few houses in Subang..
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Aug 16 2009, 12:08 PM
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I'm not a sales rep of SA too, and been living in USJ past > 15 years.
QUOTE Kenny how come you are avoiding my question below?? I suspect you guys are not residence but sales representative from Setia Alam. Just to make sales by hookm or crook. Pls answer my question below!!!WHY WHY WHY!!!!!!! Manjit, Please find your answers in the Setia Alam forums thread. You have posted it there, got your answers. As usual, you have a lot of unwarranted suspicions for people who have tried to help you. I find it disheartening that you think I'm an SA sales person. Forgive me for ignoring you. Good luck. I hope you feel really good about this. This post has been edited by KeNNy: Aug 16 2009, 05:08 PM |
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manjit, is unfair u give such a statement. based on my observation, i would say kenny is not sales representative from SP. He is the lowyat member since many years back and was only actively involving in this discussion recently. And if i not mistaken, he just bought 1 unit in SA recently.
QUOTE(manjitsingh @ Aug 16 2009, 08:40 AM) Kenny how come you are avoiding my question below?? I suspect you guys are not residence but sales representative from Setia Alam. Just to make sales by hookm or crook. |
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Aug 17 2009, 08:53 AM
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Sorry Kenny and KSWong for making such a remark on you guys. Just testing you to know the truth. You know why i become suspicious:-
1. Setia ALam forum talk about soil settlement has been blocked by Bandar Setia Alam coz they try to protect the developer and the investor. 2. Some truth that I posted they also been deleted by admin. Example:- a) The unit replacement offer is given to different people in different ways. When i receuved the email from SA, i cut paste that email in the forum but deleted by SANET(Setia Alam Net). b) The truth that i revealed in the forum also deleted. When i pretend become the buyer, i went to their Welcome centre and there i asked the sales lady about rumour on soil settlement and she replied to me saying the soil settlement only affected the first phase due to theor contractor's negligence but SA already sacked the contractor and SA are rectifying the problem with the owner. If you don't believe (b), just make a visit there and i'm 100% sure they will say "don't worry sir, the soil settlement problem only form phase 1 units but new units all have no problem".......that means we all become ginny-pigs is it???? I'm not worried about crack on wall and fencing but very much worried on the soil settle beneath the house is almost 1feet. The sanitary pipes are sagging. In matter of time 5-10yrs time, huge number of rats will live underneath the house and start biting this pipes. When this happen, no point we repair the underground sanitary pipes because it will be damaged again by this rats unless we removed entirely the rat population which I say IMPOSSIBLE!! Better get them fill-up gap under original house before it's too late. Most of you guys are just seeing outer part of the house but forgotten the below section. SA already avoiding my question on soil beneath the house made me very very angry!!!! Last Sunday went to Welcome centre and i burst myself out at the customer care and the sales representative. They were huge crowd of potential buyer looking at the scene. You think I like to do this is it? I have no choice my friends, i have no choice...... Again sorry for making such remarks. |
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manjit, i knew u r going through very bad things now. anyway, try to cool down a bit and solve the problem with SP. below is some of my personal view.
QUOTE(manjitsingh @ Aug 17 2009, 08:53 AM) You know why i become suspicious:- 1. Setia ALam forum talk about soil settlement has been blocked by Bandar Setia Alam coz they try to protect the developer and the investor. [/B]The moderator represented the SARA forum is not owned/sponsored by SP. Not sure u will believe. 2. Some truth that I posted they also been deleted by admin. Example:- a) The unit replacement offer is given to different people in different ways. When i receuved the email from SA, i cut paste that email in the forum but deleted by SANET(Setia Alam Net). [/B]Dun know why they deleted it. But as far i knew, the offer for replacement/upgrade was expired long time ago. b) The truth that i revealed in the forum also deleted. When i pretend become the buyer, i went to their Welcome centre and there i asked the sales lady about rumour on soil settlement and she replied to me saying the soil settlement only affected the first phase due to theor contractor's negligence but SA already sacked the contractor and SA are rectifying the problem with the owner. Hmn, i have read what u have posted, which was subsequent being removed. I also wondering. |
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KSWong,
Yes u are right, I become suspicious because immediately after receiving the email regarding upgrading/replacement programme, I quickly cut and paste in SARA but i exclude the sender's email address. What surprise me, it was removed immediately by SARA admin. Who have instructed moderators to delete the information? Is it moderators or setia alam official or the setia alam email sender?? I cannot believe SARA is independent. They're fully funded by SA. I'm not sure but I suspect the moderators are on SA pay-roll. Very dis-heartning when Setia Alam locked down the Soil Settlement threads from the forum. They are hiding something that very important for owner's to know. I pity for those who swallow everything said by them on soil settlement. Yesterday noon i was with my civil friend and he told me that not to buy house when you knew developer is using piling for the foundation. If developer use the piling, it means the soil is not suitable for building. It will continuously to sink bit by bit. I observe setia alam is using piling machine that they use to build bridges. Why do they need such machines? Are they building 10-storey high building?? No! only building 2-storey houses. I rather prefer the to return back my deposits, lawyer fees, my 36months bank payment. I prefer to buy house else way because if I continue to stay there every 2-3years i need to spend money repair my house such as crack, cold water pipes and sanitary pipes. |
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QUOTE(manjitsingh @ Aug 14 2009, 04:55 PM) Kenny, The link below already block by setial alam developer. If you think they're rightful why they want stop this topic. Why do they interfere?? just to correct you. it was not blocked by Setia Alam Developers. It was also not blocked by moderators. it was merely TEMPORARILY locked -- meaning no new posts. you have not even met the moderators or the owner of the site and you throw accusations like that. QUOTE(manjitsingh @ Aug 15 2009, 11:26 AM) I'm an Engineer and I knew every material use in construction has shelf life including the PVC glue they use to stick those elbow joint on the uPVC pipes. may i remind you of these statements you made in that forum? QUOTE("manjitsingh") I disagree with the fact the marine-soil. I bought in Malaxis and was doing my kitcheen extension with bakau piling. Unfortunately, the piles able to go in 3feet and broke. I told the contractor to dig 4 feet down and start piling. Again the piles broke. I told them to dig another 3feet and I discover my house is sitting on the hill-soil. I saw the red stones. The settlement happening because the contractor that top up the soil at the back and infront of the house did not pressed in and therefore during raining seasons, the soil sinks and creates gap between the building apron and the top-up soil. Anyone going to exten the house, pls ask your contractor to dig 7 feet and bulid 4feet by 4feet concrete pad footing. If the Precint 8 land is from marine soil, I would have seen black soil down there. The land in Bukit Rajah Estate is hill-soil and it's very tough. Generally speaking, any building design allow the structure to settle down at least 1inch before it start to crack. Present of hairline is normal but what is abnormal when we see crack on the column and the beam QUOTE May I know which section of the precint8 having soil issues? Im at Malaxis next to the shop lots. I'm currently renovating my back portion and i failed to do the piling because the soil is very hard(hill soil). I ended up building 7 feet deep 4feet by 4feet concrete pad footing to replace the piling which is very strong. So how come it settling down in other areas as complained by others Pls enlighten me the specific area affected? just because someone is not replying, doesn't mean they are not watching... and it does not mean they are not helping either. p/s: there will be no further replies from me here... This post has been edited by mydragoon: Aug 18 2009, 04:49 PM |
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now Setia Alam house price drop???
I told everyone and everyone said avoid Setia Alam... Better safe than sorry... |
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Aug 18 2009, 06:15 PM) now Setia Alam house price drop??? I don't think the prices will drop. However, due to huge current and future supply in this township project, prices will remain stagnant for quite some times. In fact, the location is quite a distance from KL. It is more owner occupation rather than speculation.I told everyone and everyone said avoid Setia Alam... Better safe than sorry... |
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Aug 18 2009, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Aug 18 2009, 06:15 PM) Don't think it's dropping - only seen it increasing every phase. One benchmark is to see the launch price of future phases and if indeed can sell. And yes, it's owner occupied and hence less speculation - people who buy will live there - hoping for a more conducive neighbourhood as a result In the short term, I don't expect prices to go up as much compared to other places in KL. So short term investment, it's maybe not the best choice as there're more places showing huge returns e.g. Bandar Kinrara. But on the longer term, probably more upside. It's a major mixed development cityship, and don't think there's any larger development in Malaysia now, except, maybe Johor Iskandar region. In the Klang Valley, probably Alam Impian by I&P is the next contender in township size. QUOTE Better safe than sorry... On the flipside, SP Setia has lots at stake as a major portions undeveloped. So if they screw up, can forget about getting buyers for future phases. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Aug 18 2009, 04:41 PM) just to correct you. it was not blocked by Setia Alam Developers. It was also not blocked by moderators. it was merely TEMPORARILY locked -- meaning no new posts. you have not even met the moderators or the owner of the site and you throw accusations like that. MyDraguun,may i remind you of these statements you made in that forum? just because someone is not replying, doesn't mean they are not watching... and it does not mean they are not helping either. p/s: there will be no further replies from me here... No further reply doesn't means you don't want to know my side of stories. What you cut and paste is just head and tail with missing link. What I discover about soil is during the construction time and after cosntruction, the developer told me the original soil is around 10feet inside. How the hell my machine can dig further. Also, the bakau cannot even panetrate the red-soil that i thought suppose to be hill soil. The developer should have given us reminder in written on soil condition and certain criteria for renovation because SA said their soil are little special. I still clearly remembered caling developer's help during piling time and the fuc*ing customer care lady b*tch was mumbling and later transfer me to someone who cannot even tell me what is the color of the original soil. On top of that, it about to rain and my contractor told me to decide fast or else the 7feet hole will be filled by rain water. So I told them to build the footing there. Just to make you clear, the whole episode doesn't happen in one night, it takes months for the crack to appear and each time my comments has changed based on my findings. So you don't please cover-up developer's ass by confusing people here with my findings in Dec08 and Aug09 about SetiuAlam unprofessional developer cum stupid people with pig engineering brain that was hired to do the construction of the houses there wihtout doing proper analysis. Hope you're reading this....my latest discovery, 1feet cavity underneath original house, the increase of rats populations inside the cavity and sagging sanitary pipes due to loss of ground support cause by soil settlement under the ORIGINAL house. THIS IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW Added on August 20, 2009, 1:30 pm QUOTE(winner @ Aug 18 2009, 09:36 PM) I don't think the prices will drop. However, due to huge current and future supply in this township project, prices will remain stagnant for quite some times. In fact, the location is quite a distance from KL. It is more owner occupation rather than speculation. Below is just my personal view.The current high prices for setiu alum house is not because the township is going to become super-dupper. They're the biggest con-man in the town and all stupid idiots like you and me are been played upside down. They are playing with our intelligent because average typical malaysian think when new township prices increased 30-40% in 12month time means the place will become BOOOM Let me explain further here:- How can new 20x70 house can be priced RM350k? What facilities does setia alam has that suddenly the priced gone up so high. So far I only can see Tesco, what else?? The whole place still look like a desert. Why are the prices so high? When we buyer buy at high price example RM350k for intermediate 20x70, how much can the buyer sell to get maximum profit margin? Buyer or the investor pls think this. Can you be able to sell it for RM400k after buying it at RM350k? Does anyone want to buy intermediate unit for the price RM500k in Klang!!! Only idiot will buy it. In 2006, the 20x70 price was RM225k and now just 500m away, same 20x70 is sold for RM350k. I think(my personal view) the developer put-up high price NOT because the are will become BOOM but because a) they have included the cost for piling, - just drive around the place and see for yourself type of piling machine used. WCT developer that building houses in Bandar Parklands only use A-shape hammer for piling and their houses 20x70 is only RM240k with 5mins drive to Bkt Tinggi Jusco and 10mins to Hospital. b) cost to make maximum built-up because don't want buyer to complain soil settlement during renovation (This mean they have no confidence on their soil). Their new 20x70 already has built-up to 1700sqft. Their old 20x70 normally have 1380sqft. c) My personal opinion saying that maybe they have included the cost for risk-factor for each unit just incase some soil settlement happen in new areas. This post has been edited by manjitsingh: Aug 20 2009, 01:34 PM |
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I believe there's quite some misrepresentation in your post.
To cut this short, I'm afraid those who are really interested will have to find out the facts elsewhere, or visit the location and make their own judgement. SA's prices are cheap in comparison at $$/sqf. The pricing bubble is all over in Klang Valley, not limited to SA. Some suspect a property bubble happening in Malaysia soon, while some say it's normal appreciation of property. For me, do your own homework, buy what you like and don't regret. Read more here. Hope this helps put things into perspective. http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.php?t=9248 Lastly, would appreciate if more compassionate choice of words were used. SA has about 20,000 residents by now, whom you've addressed as idiots, and number will be up to 50,000 idiots by early 2012. This post has been edited by KeNNy: Aug 22 2009, 02:26 AM |
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Aug 22 2009, 03:38 AM
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bought a house there 3 yrs ago and now sold with decent price..at serangon2
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Aug 24 2009, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(kswong77 @ Aug 15 2009, 12:57 AM) I totally agreed with you.Cursing people is a sin. Added on August 24, 2009, 4:26 pm QUOTE(manjitsingh @ Aug 16 2009, 08:40 AM) Kenny how come you are avoiding my question below?? I suspect you guys are not residence but sales representative from Setia Alam. Just to make sales by hookm or crook. Pls answer my question below!!!WHY WHY WHY!!!!!!! I have just bought a house in SA. Heard that the soil settlement issue earlier but i think that is only for the early phase.Added on August 15, 2009, 11:45 amKenny, I got one more question to ask you. Why setia alam building new house with large built-up area? Only 3feet land is left over behind for septic tank. Is this standard MBSA building plan?? Why do they change the standard plane. The first phase where i'm staying, the house built up for 20x70 is around 1440sqft and got 10feet land on the backyard but their new houses the built up for 20x70 is nearly 1700sqft and only got 3feet land on the backyard. Only people without confidence in their soil will build the houses such a way. For me and most of the people i suppose too are prefer a house with larger built-up of 1700sqft instead of 1400sqft. And i am sure this is the market trend. Added on August 24, 2009, 4:38 pm QUOTE(KeNNy @ Aug 18 2009, 11:39 PM) Don't think it's dropping - only seen it increasing every phase. One benchmark is to see the launch price of future phases and if indeed can sell. I almost bought a house in Alam Impian last year. Practical layout, good design & specious.And yes, it's owner occupied and hence less speculation - people who buy will live there - hoping for a more conducive neighbourhood as a result In the Klang Valley, probably Alam Impian by I&P is the next contender in township size. On the flipside, SP Setia has lots at stake as a major portions undeveloped. So if they screw up, can forget about getting buyers for future phases. But i withdrew my booking after realised that the development is too slow and still in 1st phase after it was launched in 2006. I&P house is excellent but the company is not aggresive enough. This post has been edited by AudiA6: Aug 24 2009, 04:38 PM |
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Sep 13 2009, 03:33 PM
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hi guys..im also an owner at setia alam..
alisma project.. im going into reno stage soon.. i noticed that mostly for my side..r the corner houses having cracks due to land settlement..intermidiate stil ok Added on September 14, 2009, 11:09 amsilent again lo this blog... Added on September 16, 2009, 3:14 pmhmm..wonder y no1 replies here? This post has been edited by rockstar teddy: Sep 16 2009, 03:14 PM |
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Sep 18 2009, 01:36 PM
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Sep 19 2009, 03:39 AM
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QUOTE(rockstar teddy @ Sep 13 2009, 03:33 PM) silent again lo this blog... Although, if you're looking for investor opinions, check out the http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.p...=1845&start=575. For cracks, (mainly older phases) some piling wwork is done by BSA to rectify affected households. Latest luanch is Akasia apartments, launched last week - almost all taken up. Sekolah Kebangsaan construction looking good. A couple of other houses just VP, sub-sale prices are (suprisingly) high. Maybe once off as these were the earlier phases, but not sure if this sub-sale price gains will be is sustainable for future phases. Expect Setia Avenue (Commercial center) to be VP soon. A (new?) player has emerged North of Setia Alam, Anjung Sari giving interestingly low prices and a nice package, but developer risk unknown. That's about it. |
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Sep 19 2009, 12:06 PM
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thanks kenny..im also in SARA Forum..no worries
as im also resident |
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Sep 21 2009, 02:00 PM
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So what happened to that manjitsingh, problem solved lesap begitu saja?
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Sep 21 2009, 05:37 PM
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It's better to ask manjit or MyD to comment
But this I know, they have a scheduled meeting that runs every (month?) with some residents, BSA and MPP, and manjit attended the last one. |
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Sep 22 2009, 11:25 AM
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there is a meeting every month?
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Sep 22 2009, 07:54 PM
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Yeah - it's a scheduled recurring meeting. Mainly run through progress of rectification, new customer issues, etc.
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Sep 23 2009, 10:19 AM
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hmm..i let my land to settle almost2yrs after getting the keys..now onli doin reno
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Sep 23 2009, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Sep 19 2009, 03:39 AM) The folks are in the setiaalam.net. Most real house owners there. Good place to know more about the community. Just would like to know. what is VP?Although, if you're looking for investor opinions, check out the http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.p...=1845&start=575. For cracks, (mainly older phases) some piling wwork is done by BSA to rectify affected households. Latest luanch is Akasia apartments, launched last week - almost all taken up. Sekolah Kebangsaan construction looking good. A couple of other houses just VP, sub-sale prices are (suprisingly) high. Maybe once off as these were the earlier phases, but not sure if this sub-sale price gains will be is sustainable for future phases. Expect Setia Avenue (Commercial center) to be VP soon. A (new?) player has emerged North of Setia Alam, Anjung Sari giving interestingly low prices and a nice package, but developer risk unknown. That's about it. Also errr can give more info on the Anjung Sari project??? Thx... |
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Sep 23 2009, 02:03 PM
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Goto SARA forums, all info there.
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QUOTE(chubbyken @ Sep 23 2009, 11:18 AM) Just would like to know. what is VP? Hi chubbyken, Also errr can give more info on the Anjung Sari project??? Thx... In simple terms, Vacant Possession (VP) just means the house has completed construction, afterwhich the developer will call you for inspection. It's also important because, financially you're obliged to settle in full (if I recall correctly) upon VP. Now, there're other terms such as Certificate of Fitness, which normally comes after VP. I'm also not very pandai in this - so you'll have to google the exact details For Anjung sari, yumyum77 is right most of the info is in the SA forum. I would encourage you visit the forum. It's open to the public. There're quite some discussions on it. If you lose your way, there's always the "Search button in the forum:. As a start, here's the link. http://forum.setiaalam.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1974 This post has been edited by KeNNy: Sep 23 2009, 11:36 PM |
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Heya,
Just to inform all potential buyers, these are the problems faced by me. I got a Semi-D unit in Setia Alam and I thought it was good but it turned out to be HELL. The customer care was just nice at replying and promising but no work is done. let me show u a statistic of the repair i have gotten. No Complaint Date Filed Date Completed Duration 1 Complaint 1 8 April 2008 30 May 2008 > 3 weeks 2 Complaint 2 10 June 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 3 Complaint 3 11 June 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 4 Complaint 4 27 June 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 5 Complaint 5 1 July 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 6 Complaint 6 19 August 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 7 Complaint 7 10 October 2008 26 October 2008 < 3 weeks 8 Complaint 8 28 October 2008 17 February 2009 > 3 weeks 9 Complaint 9 18 November 2008 27 December 2008 > 3 weeks 10 Complaint 10 13 December 2008 17 February 2009 > 3 weeks 11 Complaint 11 28 December 2008 17 February 2009 > 3 weeks 12 Complaint 12 4 February 2009 17 April 2009 > 3 weeks 13 Complaint 13 17 April 2009 Yet to be completed > 3 weeks Complaint 13 was just a simple door frame change out and door. In fact they have changed to a different specs and worst, the door replaced was infested with bugs/mites that will make holes in the door. Complaint for 6 months already but to no avail. Gents, if you would like to know more, please visit Jalan Setia Damai U13/16G , Jalan Setia Damai U13/16F and so on... talk to the people around and you will know more. The house quality built by them from outside/appearance is appealing, but the integrity of the building has been compromised. These are the few cases that has been happening in the neighbourhood. - Car porch foundation was built without including steel mesh as reinforcement. I would say after staying for almost a year, at least 7 houses, car porch has terribly sunken. Then the contractor has to be mobilized and hacking, dirtying your place is almost certain. - I have seen few houses here, the wall crack was bigger than 3 cms!!!! bear in mind, it's the wall, integrity of the house! imagine you are staying, if it collapsed, you won't see the light anymore. What i heard is that they tried to accelerate the projects that the piling,settling of the soil was compromised! - My neighbour's house did not get the required repair and waited for ages. -In fact, most of them already informed the tribunal of pembeli rumah. Few lawyers were engaged as well. Gents, Buying houses built by SP Setia? Think 100 times before you decide. Go make some survey. I'm suffering at the moment. Thanks, Angry soul conned by SP Setia. |
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Oct 24 2009, 12:12 AM
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damn... sounds real bad... my dad bought a place there...
now gotta let him know of these issues... |
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Oct 24 2009, 02:37 PM
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this is sad..but after so many complaints..dont tell me setia alam dev are not into this?
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Oct 26 2009, 12:12 PM
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that sounds bad reputation from sp setia ...
but there are other plus point , if you dont mind the location ... |
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Dec 2 2009, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(delpiero10 @ Oct 23 2009, 08:06 PM) Heya, Bro, Just to inform all potential buyers, these are the problems faced by me. I got a Semi-D unit in Setia Alam and I thought it was good but it turned out to be HELL. The customer care was just nice at replying and promising but no work is done. let me show u a statistic of the repair i have gotten. No Complaint Date Filed Date Completed Duration 1 Complaint 1 8 April 2008 30 May 2008 > 3 weeks 2 Complaint 2 10 June 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 3 Complaint 3 11 June 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 4 Complaint 4 27 June 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 5 Complaint 5 1 July 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 6 Complaint 6 19 August 2008 5 September 2008 > 3 weeks 7 Complaint 7 10 October 2008 26 October 2008 < 3 weeks 8 Complaint 8 28 October 2008 17 February 2009 > 3 weeks 9 Complaint 9 18 November 2008 27 December 2008 > 3 weeks 10 Complaint 10 13 December 2008 17 February 2009 > 3 weeks 11 Complaint 11 28 December 2008 17 February 2009 > 3 weeks 12 Complaint 12 4 February 2009 17 April 2009 > 3 weeks 13 Complaint 13 17 April 2009 Yet to be completed > 3 weeks Complaint 13 was just a simple door frame change out and door. In fact they have changed to a different specs and worst, the door replaced was infested with bugs/mites that will make holes in the door. Complaint for 6 months already but to no avail. Gents, if you would like to know more, please visit Jalan Setia Damai U13/16G , Jalan Setia Damai U13/16F and so on... talk to the people around and you will know more. The house quality built by them from outside/appearance is appealing, but the integrity of the building has been compromised. These are the few cases that has been happening in the neighbourhood. - Car porch foundation was built without including steel mesh as reinforcement. I would say after staying for almost a year, at least 7 houses, car porch has terribly sunken. Then the contractor has to be mobilized and hacking, dirtying your place is almost certain. - I have seen few houses here, the wall crack was bigger than 3 cms!!!! bear in mind, it's the wall, integrity of the house! imagine you are staying, if it collapsed, you won't see the light anymore. What i heard is that they tried to accelerate the projects that the piling,settling of the soil was compromised! - My neighbour's house did not get the required repair and waited for ages. -In fact, most of them already informed the tribunal of pembeli rumah. Few lawyers were engaged as well. Gents, Buying houses built by SP Setia? Think 100 times before you decide. Go make some survey. I'm suffering at the moment. Thanks, Angry soul conned by SP Setia. Not need to be so angry. I always doing this when i can't sort the matters out. No point talking to the "small fish & prawn", you only waste your "mouth water". |
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Dec 4 2009, 12:30 PM
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For such a serious problem for so many tenants and buyers in Setia Alam..only 2 complain. Which are true?
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Dec 4 2009, 10:12 PM
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if you don't mind the township next to Klang , jln meru . i think should be fine. i can see the bright side of setia alam .
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Tomolo there is a new soft launch of 24x80 superlink G&G in Precinct 6. Check it out. Should be a quick sell out again.
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Latest GSC to open in Setia City Mall, Shah Alam
SHAH ALAM: Golden Screen Cinema (GSC), Malaysia’s largest cinema operator, has joined Parkson as key anchor tenants of the under-construction Setia City Mall coming up at the 4,000-acre Setia Alam township of award-winning developer S P Setia. The 700,000 sq ft Setia City Mall, scheduled to be completed by end-2011, is being developed by Greenhill Resources Sdn Bhd, a joint-venture of S P Setia and the Asian Retail Investment Fund managed by the investment arm of international property developer Lend Lease. GSC will operate a nine-screen multiplex over 40,000 sq ft on two levels at the mall, which is being positioned to offer an affordable family experience of leisure, fun, food and beverage, shopping and entertainment. The multiplex, said to be equipped with the latest 3D and digital technology, will offer over 1,700 seats with corporate entertaining facilities. “We are excited about this latest partnership with GSC. We believe a comprehensive entertainment component is important and vital in achieving our vision for Setia City Mall,” S P Setia president and CEO Tan Sri Liew Kee Sin said in a statement on May 14. GSC’s presence, Liew said, would not only add value to S P Setia’s Setia Alam and the adjacent Setia Eco Park developments, but offer customers the best in cinema entertainment. General manager of GSC, Irving Chee, described the design of Setia City Mall as exciting and perfect for the housing of a state-of-the-art multiplex. In addition to Parkson and GSC, the mall will boast over 200 local and international specialty stores, a number of major anchor retailers and a large park. It will be served by more than 2,000 car parks. |
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Looking for a room at Setia Alam, want to rent, am teaching there.. Thanks!
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Hey guys, any1 know about Anjung sari at setia alam?? Woth buying??Saw their showhouse.Big build up and good fittings given but very normal external house design. quite good quality overall but phase 1 and 2 fully sold out. Nw mainly bumi lots in phase 3.
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Jul 28 2010, 10:28 PM
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Anjung sari, is it the 3 storey bungalow, what is the price?
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Jul 29 2010, 08:37 AM
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Anjung Sari is developed by small time developer. Facade is very old fashion with traditional kampong style. Not a clean line facade. Layout is just soso. Price is okie.
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QUOTE(aku_ker @ Jul 28 2010, 10:28 PM) Ya they got bungalow, semi d and terrace. Bungalow above 2 mil so didnt find out much since i cant afford it. Was looking at the 3 storey terrace ( 3 phases) but 1st and 2nd phase sold out. 3rd phase cost around RM699k. How to buy. External design not modern but inside looks awesome with fittings they promise to give. I guess outside can renovate la. Too bad price too high la. |
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Aug 26 2010, 11:19 PM
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Any new launch from Setia Alam recently?
Heard that they start to queue few days before the launching day....crazyyyyyy... |
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Sep 5 2010, 04:24 AM
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i want to rent my setia alam house..anybody interested just pm me
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Aug 26 2010, 11:19 PM) Any new launch from Setia Alam recently? i think those speculator goreng goreng...if you want buy for investment, i think not very worth, unless u think it can up to 1million in 5 years time.Heard that they start to queue few days before the launching day....crazyyyyyy... |
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Sep 5 2010, 11:12 AM
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Too much speculation in that area. Not worth that price in my 2 cents opinion. With that amount rather invest in Damansara area
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Sep 5 2010, 11:59 PM
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Typical DSL house 20 x 70 with 2000sqf BU had reached 0.5mil mark
SMD had reached from approx 900k 7months ago to max 1.6mil today. Setia Mall is under construction and will be completed in another 2 years with GSC and Parkson as anchor tenants. Let you FINK yourself whether you still want to go in or not... is there any potential of growth? as SA is a 20 years master plan but this prop is definitely developing at a faster rate as compared to Kota Kemuning....... |
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Nov 2 2010, 09:10 AM
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How do u guys see Alam Impian as an investment? I see that many people are going for Setia Alam and above area.. subsale around 600k already for DST....
but this Alam Impian was only around 500k+/- for 22x80.... DST... the accesibility looks good... amenities not yet... but still the location... in between Kesas and Federal... would it be the next best thing? the developer is I&P by the way... |
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Nov 2 2010, 12:13 PM
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i like the design of Alam Impian houses but one thing that puts me off is that i need to pay the LKSA toll each time i enter and exit the housing estate.
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Nov 2 2010, 12:17 PM
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Good buy for own stay. Nicely located and serenity is a plus.
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Checked the place lately:
There are 22 x 80 DST - around RM560,000 & 2 1/2 RM590,000. There is a nice lake nearby. Earthworks ongoing for the amenities in the "township". The toll cost RM0.60 going into the housing area. From Federal to KESAS = RM1.20. Added on November 2, 2010, 12:44 pmi think those working in Shah Alam should be OK, but too far for PJ This post has been edited by furryfluffy: Nov 2 2010, 02:21 PM |
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toll is anywhere nowadays, 60cents is relatively cheap to me.. As long as d hiway really serve d purpose..
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QUOTE(kampit_ikram @ Nov 2 2010, 02:50 PM) toll is anywhere nowadays, 60cents is relatively cheap to me.. As long as d hiway really serve d purpose.. Does the highway really serve its purpose? Seemed like they purposely build the highway just for this township.I know there is an existing link between KESAS & Federal via the industrial area but damned jammed... |
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Nov 2 2010, 02:57 PM
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thats d purpose, from that deep, to be easily accessible to kesas n federal for 60cents, is cheap.. From the view of residents of d township ofkos..
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Nov 2 2010, 03:46 PM
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no... but my fren is...
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Nov 2 2010, 03:53 PM
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Nov 2 2010, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Nov 2 2010, 03:53 PM) the design is modern and the size is reasonable...as for the toll, currently it is at 60 cents and i think the highway concessionaire will not maintain it at 60 cents all the time. there will be a time when they say they need to increase the toll rates. |
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Nov 2 2010, 09:48 PM
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i stand corrected... the latest launch is 24x80... not 22x80 as mentioned....
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Nov 3 2010, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(WWJD @ Nov 2 2010, 07:02 PM) the design is modern and the size is reasonable... yup true. Toll price will increase. However, anyone knows how long is the concession period? 30 years?as for the toll, currently it is at 60 cents and i think the highway concessionaire will not maintain it at 60 cents all the time. there will be a time when they say they need to increase the toll rates. But considering the area is freehold, should be OK... |
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Nov 3 2010, 10:26 PM
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heard that last time they launched (Chanting type, not sure), starting at 419k at that time, sold out in hours only...
btw, there's another entry beside LKSA and Kesas...its thru the Desa Latania, Klang...it used to be the only way in, before LKSA finished... that one no toll at all...but lots of traffic la sometimes... This post has been edited by abu_adi: Nov 3 2010, 10:34 PM |
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Nov 4 2010, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(abu_adi @ Nov 3 2010, 10:26 PM) heard that last time they launched (Chanting type, not sure), starting at 419k at that time, sold out in hours only... It is still using Jalan Kebun to access Alam Impian right? btw, there's another entry beside LKSA and Kesas...its thru the Desa Latania, Klang...it used to be the only way in, before LKSA finished... that one no toll at all...but lots of traffic la sometimes... After checking the place, there are front entry (Toll LKSA RM0.60) and back entry (Jalan Kebun - FOC). So there is alternative afterall |
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Nov 4 2010, 11:18 AM
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yeah, its the one near the Jalan Kebun roundabout...60 sen is not that much anyway.
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Nov 5 2010, 02:14 PM
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interested buyer for the setia alam..
saw the cracks with my very own eyes today.. many units have it... wondering if there is any permanent method to solve these crack? or will it continue to grow? |
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Nov 5 2010, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(KeMeZ @ Nov 5 2010, 02:14 PM) interested buyer for the setia alam.. Crack can be due to difference soil settlement. And it will continue goes on...hopefully it is not structure crack. Good luck to all buyer. saw the cracks with my very own eyes today.. many units have it... wondering if there is any permanent method to solve these crack? or will it continue to grow? Added on November 5, 2010, 11:21 pm QUOTE(TokyoBoy @ Sep 5 2010, 11:59 PM) Typical DSL house 20 x 70 with 2000sqf BU had reached 0.5mil mark With bank negara new ruling of 70% max loan for 3rd properties, will this affect the demand for properties here? For those who buy for flipping, it will be very tough to get a buyer!! SMD had reached from approx 900k 7months ago to max 1.6mil today. Setia Mall is under construction and will be completed in another 2 years with GSC and Parkson as anchor tenants. Let you FINK yourself whether you still want to go in or not... is there any potential of growth? as SA is a 20 years master plan but this prop is definitely developing at a faster rate as compared to Kota Kemuning....... This post has been edited by wl_n: Nov 5 2010, 11:21 PM |
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Nov 6 2010, 08:41 AM
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crack can also be caused by poor workmanship of applying skim coat.
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Nov 6 2010, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(wl_n @ Nov 5 2010, 11:13 PM) Crack can be due to difference soil settlement. And it will continue goes on...hopefully it is not structure crack. Good luck to all buyer. Tough to get buyer? Why? BNM's new ruling to to make it tough for speculators..Added on November 5, 2010, 11:21 pm With bank negara new ruling of 70% max loan for 3rd properties, will this affect the demand for properties here? For those who buy for flipping, it will be very tough to get a buyer!! do you have the data of % of total current new buyers has more than 2 properties? |
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Nov 6 2010, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(TokyoBoy @ Nov 6 2010, 05:18 PM) Tough to get buyer? Why? BNM's new ruling to to make it tough for speculators.. We dont speculate on % of the total current new buyer having more than 2properties. You will find out soon when majority of units completed. SP Setia 5/95 and zero interest during construction package is one of the selling point for 1st time buyers and speculators as well. Good luck to you if majority are buying not for flipping. By the way, bro, do you bought your unit for own stay or for flipping? At this moment, not many people stay there, many units still empty. do you have the data of % of total current new buyers has more than 2 properties? |
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Nov 6 2010, 06:53 PM
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Nov 7 2010, 12:11 AM
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Nov 7 2010, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(wl_n @ Nov 6 2010, 06:23 PM) We dont speculate on % of the total current new buyer having more than 2properties. You will find out soon when majority of units completed. SP Setia 5/95 and zero interest during construction package is one of the selling point for 1st time buyers and speculators as well. Good luck to you if majority are buying not for flipping. By the way, bro, do you bought your unit for own stay or for flipping? At this moment, not many people stay there, many units still empty. Both. It depends. |
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Nov 7 2010, 08:40 AM
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Nov 7 2010, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(wl_n @ Nov 7 2010, 12:11 AM) guess it depends on which precint...those that is already like 2-4yrs old... the occupancy rates are mostly full... those that are empty, are either completed <1y or purchase by investor... hoping to sell their unit or better yet... keep the unit until Setia Mall is ready & hoping to sell higher price... juz recently (mths ago)... hse price there are getting crazily high! mana tak high... dev. oso selling @ high price... surely subsale will shot up too... as for BNM new ruling, maybe it might affect new launches by potential investor... but... they can even put their son, dotter, grandson, etc name juz 2 secure the unit rite... tis is Msia, maciam2 blh jadi |
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Nov 7 2010, 10:45 PM
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only time will tell, next year will the year most where the 5/95 flooding the market right.
if cannot repay, will lead to foreclosure |
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Nov 10 2010, 01:48 PM
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Reporting in... Sasaella owner
http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_alam/pfs_sasaella.htm ![]() RT2 M -Sasaella updated on 03/11/2010 (Brick works in progress - photo taken on 31/10/2010) |
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Nov 11 2010, 03:12 AM
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60 cents to buy time...time is precious. pay 60 cents to spend more time with family, or have more time to rest...live our "after-work" lifes
i think its worth every cent...even if its RM1 or more. but i'd curse highways that take away my time (jam all the time) at the same time making me pay! LOL |
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Nov 16 2010, 12:00 PM
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60sen is nothing if compare to time and fuel that u burn when u in jam (using no toll)
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Dec 14 2010, 10:12 AM
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sorry edit
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Dec 14 2010, 03:27 PM
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The price at Setia Alam is getting too expensive. Beyond affordable range for many people. I wonder whether it will stop appreciating in price?
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Dec 14 2010, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(lch78 @ Dec 14 2010, 03:27 PM) The price at Setia Alam is getting too expensive. Beyond affordable range for many people. I wonder whether it will stop appreciating in price? no doubt. some people have started to buy the neighboring houses - pkns, bandar bkt raja...prices there up or down or flat... will depend if that coming mall will wong or not, got college and hospital start or not... |
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Dec 17 2010, 11:31 AM
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Received text message from Setia Alam yesterday :
" SOFT LAUNCH DOUBLE STOREY TERRACE HOUSE, GARDENIA (20' X 70') ON 18/12/2010. PRICE FROM RM618K. LAUNCH BY BALLOTING WITH RM10000 BANK DRAFT" Gosh ! A 20' x 70' terrace house @ RM618k, overpriced !!! By paying RM 618k can get a very very nice 24' x 75' double storey house in Subang Jaya, or a unit of superlink in Ambang Botanic 2. |
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Dec 17 2010, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(wsf @ Dec 17 2010, 11:31 AM) Received text message from Setia Alam yesterday : Setia alam is definately overprice, thanks to the developer 5/95, free SPA, loan agreement scheme, with the low entry cost, more ppls afford to buy, and make the developer become greedy to put higher price tag because take up rate is good, if those a genuine buyer for own stay is fine, if more are investor aka flipper, i think they will find it hard to flip as the price has gone unrealistic, look at the house for sales here at iproperty, it is easily over 60 pages from sept'10 itself! think about it, tho there are mass development there, but the developer has just gone too far and too greedy! i think BN has to monitor the default rate at this area in this 1-2 years." SOFT LAUNCH DOUBLE STOREY TERRACE HOUSE, GARDENIA (20' X 70') ON 18/12/2010. PRICE FROM RM618K. LAUNCH BY BALLOTING WITH RM10000 BANK DRAFT" Gosh ! A 20' x 70' terrace house @ RM618k, overpriced !!! By paying RM 618k can get a very very nice 24' x 75' double storey house in Subang Jaya, or a unit of superlink in Ambang Botanic 2. |
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Dec 17 2010, 12:04 PM
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this is really overprice, ok for ownstay, investment, better
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Dec 17 2010, 01:09 PM
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bcoz of the mall hype as well as crazy speculators cum investor...
prices here has shot up too high... faster than bank value can catch up... hence not surprising neigh. developer starts to ride on the wave... even Aman Perdana sold out, so bukit raja isn't spared either... for own stay still OK, but investment... siao liao lar!!! |
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Dec 17 2010, 02:14 PM
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I find RM618k for 20'x70' still too expensive even for own stay. My friend is working in SP Setia, she told me that the big boss is in good mood at all times because his properties at Setia Alam can easily sold out, there are so many eager buyers. He is making big bulk of fast money.
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Dec 17 2010, 02:55 PM
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I booked this unit 1 month ago and decide to let go. This AyuLestari (PKNS project) is right in front of the land where they build Setia Alam mall.
I had checked with the PKNS office, transferable is allow. If you interested, please let me know ASAP. http://www.pknsproperty.com/AlamNusantara/index.html |
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Dec 17 2010, 02:57 PM
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Even though SA infra is nice but i wont pay RM618k for 20 x 70 so little space!! I rather buy end lot at BBR bigger space, beautiful lake. this is more worth in dollars. I dun care about appreciation because this is for my own stay only. I hope all investors dun let the developer hike up the price so fast... many of youngsters cant afford to buy house now.. pity them!
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Dec 17 2010, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Dec 17 2010, 11:57 AM) Setia alam is definately overprice, thanks to the developer 5/95, free SPA, loan agreement scheme, with the low entry cost, more ppls afford to buy, and make the developer become greedy to put higher price tag because take up rate is good, if those a genuine buyer for own stay is fine, if more are investor aka flipper, i think they will find it hard to flip as the price has gone unrealistic, look at the house for sales here at iproperty, it is easily over 60 pages from sept'10 itself! think about it, tho there are mass development there, but the developer has just gone too far and too greedy! i think BN has to monitor the default rate at this area in this 1-2 years. Good news for people wanting to actually live in SA, too many investors there will bring the price down (at some point). |
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Dec 17 2010, 08:08 PM
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even for own stay also totally overprice, u have to spend ur whole life time to pay the loan just for this little space
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Dec 17 2010, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(IGax2000 @ Dec 17 2010, 08:08 PM) even for own stay also totally overprice, u have to spend ur whole life time to pay the loan just for this little space But think builtup quite big wor... 21xx sqft... Some condos only 1000 sqft... http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_alam/ |
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Dec 27 2010, 03:07 PM
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I'm actually looking for one unit of 2 storey terrace link houses in SA.
20 X 70" Budget around 500K. Went to iproperty and saw a lot of designs. What do you folks recommend? Looking for more contemporary design and not those conventional 2 storey house design..thanks.. |
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Dec 27 2010, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(messi88 @ Dec 17 2010, 02:57 PM) Even though SA infra is nice but i wont pay RM618k for 20 x 70 so little space!! I rather buy end lot at BBR bigger space, beautiful lake. this is more worth in dollars. I dun care about appreciation because this is for my own stay only. I hope all investors dun let the developer hike up the price so fast... many of youngsters cant afford to buy house now.. pity them! bro, dont bring the crowds to BBR plz.. |
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Dec 27 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 17 2010, 08:43 PM) But think builtup quite big wor... 21xx sqft... Some condos only 1000 sqft... Most 20X70 houses have enough space for 1 car only. Not sure about this one. I would never think about buying a 20X70 house with above RM 600k. There are so many alternatives...http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_alam/ |
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Dec 27 2010, 03:52 PM
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Dec 27 2010, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Dec 27 2010, 03:07 PM) I'm actually looking for one unit of 2 storey terrace link houses in SA. new ones...true like what others say, very high price now.20 X 70" Budget around 500K. Went to iproperty and saw a lot of designs. What do you folks recommend? Looking for more contemporary design and not those conventional 2 storey house design..thanks.. subale 500k think can get quite new 20x70. maybe you want to read a bit at this forum, good info, i think... http://forum.setiaalam.net/index.php?sid=2...10ebd3563fac0f9 |
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Dec 27 2010, 06:07 PM
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at this budget, u can find at kota kemuning or alam impian
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Dec 28 2010, 03:52 PM
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basically most of the buyer are speculator or someone who think of easy profit.
mostly are not genuine buyer. visited some of the completed phases (few cousins staying there) and you will know the true story behind it. anyway, it's still a good town for stay if price is not a problem for you. |
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Dec 28 2010, 06:24 PM
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Dec 28 2010, 10:27 PM
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now sa overprice already..better go bukit raja...
superlink still cheaper than sa 20x70... |
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Dec 29 2010, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Dec 28 2010, 10:27 PM) bbr also getting pricey as sime takes advantage of the local and overall situation.if not mistaken, someone reported in some thread recently unsold units paloma 24x75 will soon be priced by dev at close to 600K. 600K for 24x75 in that location - good price or overpriced? |
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Dec 29 2010, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 29 2010, 01:48 AM) bbr also getting pricey as sime takes advantage of the local and overall situation. they can't change the price it's all in the system, advert etc already. it's more xpensive prolly becoz of its dimension and specsif not mistaken, someone reported in some thread recently unsold units paloma 24x75 will soon be priced by dev at close to 600K. 600K for 24x75 in that location - good price or overpriced? |
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Dec 29 2010, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 29 2010, 09:17 AM) they can't change the price it's all in the system, advert etc already. it's more xpensive prolly becoz of its dimension and specs really?sime-bbr reported to be doing it here! http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1604810/+80 last part of page... This post has been edited by AVFAN: Dec 29 2010, 09:42 AM |
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Dec 29 2010, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 29 2010, 09:17 AM) they can't change the price it's all in the system, advert etc already. it's more xpensive prolly becoz of its dimension and specs well, they juz DID!E.g. Fuego Phase 1 (A1=546k, A2=547k) Phase 2 (A3=571k, A4=579k) But when launch, Phase 2 all increase 4k wif A3@575k (even their website still shows old P2 indicative price during P1 launch) http://www.simedarbyproperty.com/property_...11-378a2f6e63a6 (click Floorplan) |
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Dec 29 2010, 11:39 AM
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first of all,
Phase 1 and Phase 2 is not the same! So prices can be manipulated here. In terms of law, what you see is what you pay. for the same lot, same unit, same phase, same launch, price cannot be changed. Newer phases/parcels will tend to be more and more expensive. Thats what I meant by my previous post. Added on December 29, 2010, 11:42 amfor example, if an unsold or loan stalled unit in Phase 1 is still on sale, they CANNOT increase the price. they however can increase the same Paloma-type in the next launch. This post has been edited by jeghui: Dec 29 2010, 11:42 AM |
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Dec 29 2010, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 29 2010, 11:39 AM) first of all, this and bbr thread.... 2 forummers said the unsold, dropouts, staff booked but dunwan now, etc. of paloma phase 1 and 2 launched months ago are now said going to be priced 15% higher than their original launch prices. Of course, phase 3 another 15%?Phase 1 and Phase 2 is not the same! So prices can be manipulated here. In terms of law, what you see is what you pay. for the same lot, same unit, same phase, same launch, price cannot be changed. Newer phases/parcels will tend to be more and more expensive. Thats what I meant by my previous post. Added on December 29, 2010, 11:42 amfor example, if an unsold or loan stalled unit in Phase 1 is still on sale, they CANNOT increase the price. they however can increase the same Paloma-type in the next launch. got law on this meh? which law? This post has been edited by AVFAN: Dec 29 2010, 12:15 PM |
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Dec 29 2010, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(messi88 @ Dec 17 2010, 02:57 PM) Very true, for Phase 1/2 Paloma endlot is damn worth it... size maciam Semi-D ~ b/up 29xxs.f starting frm 615kAs for Fuego endlot - 718k kinda felt like killing ord.... additional 4ft width. QUOTE(,Dec 27 2010, 03:07 PM) I'm actually looking for one unit of 2 storey terrace link houses in SA. Try harder - set appt wif agent to view the units... currently they are kinda free 20 X 70" Budget around 500K. Went to iproperty and saw a lot of designs. What do you folks recommend? Looking for more contemporary design and not those conventional 2 storey house design..thanks.. Sheda/Charisma/Heritage and soon to be VPed Astronium/Albizia... All tis ard 500-525k, juz nego wif them -> notice some asking prices has already up since 2mths ago... QUOTE(naing @ Dec 27 2010, 03:49 PM) Most of SP Setia homes (be it 18ft or 20ft width) can park 2 cars...coz the beam is frm end to end... even mine too can fit 2cars... |
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QUOTE(edlim @ Dec 29 2010, 12:43 PM) Very true, for Phase 1/2 Paloma endlot is damn worth it... size maciam Semi-D ~ b/up 29xxs.f starting frm 615k you sure nlot start from 615k? i bought 683k? kena con ni!As for Fuego endlot - 718k kinda felt like killing ord.... additional 4ft width. Try harder - set appt wif agent to view the units... currently they are kinda free Sheda/Charisma/Heritage and soon to be VPed Astronium/Albizia... All tis ard 500-525k, juz nego wif them -> notice some asking prices has already up since 2mths ago... Most of SP Setia homes (be it 18ft or 20ft width) can park 2 cars... coz the beam is frm end to end... even mine too can fit 2cars... |
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Dec 29 2010, 02:48 PM
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err... at their website bro... listed thr...
so does most of its latest project... but i belip 615k is for Phase 1, Phase 2 they jack up smore... not to mention, facing south, nice no. all tis diff prices... Copied: http://www.simedarbyproperty.com/property_...fc-2308052e1cfb RM 615,000 onwards Type C End Unit Gross Built-Up Area: From Approx. 2,907 sq ft Land Area: From Approx. 2,850 sq ft This post has been edited by edlim: Dec 29 2010, 02:52 PM |
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 29 2010, 12:07 PM) this and bbr thread.... 2 forummers said the unsold, dropouts, staff booked but dunwan now, etc. of paloma phase 1 and 2 launched months ago are now said going to be priced 15% higher than their original launch prices. Of course, phase 3 another 15%? if it happened to you, you can sue them if u have correct evidence.got law on this meh? which law? |
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Jan 23 2011, 12:12 AM
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Buy Ambang Botanic 2, a gated & guarded community with resort club house. Aeon Jusco is just opposite and Tesco, Giant are nearby. Less than 1km away from KESAS. Suitable for people working in Subang & Shah Alam for occupancy.
Price at Setia Alam is damm crazy. Staying in Shah Alam not fun at all. no 4D, no pub, no entertainment, like staying in dead town!! |
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QUOTE(Ambang2 @ Jan 23 2011, 12:12 AM) Buy Ambang Botanic 2, a gated & guarded community with resort club house. Aeon Jusco is just opposite and Tesco, Giant are nearby. Less than 1km away from KESAS. Suitable for people working in Subang & Shah Alam for occupancy. go away ye bloody agentPrice at Setia Alam is damm crazy. Staying in Shah Alam not fun at all. no 4D, no pub, no entertainment, like staying in dead town!! |
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Jan 23 2011, 06:58 AM
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every thread, same sales message. good or not, people know one, not stupid lerr... |
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Jan 23 2011, 01:07 PM
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Be frank, i am telling the truth. Price in setia alam has drastically increased. All of us can make self judgement whether it is sound to continue buying property in Setia Alam.
FYI, they are going to launch 3 storey superlink house at RM1.6 mil. Can you imagine paying million ringgit to own a link house? i myself won't be paying for it. |
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3 storey superlink at 1.6 million? when?
like Desa Park City already |
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Jan 23 2011, 01:30 PM
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Jan 23 2011, 01:32 PM
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at ampang botanic how much is new launch then. sorry i dont follow this areas.
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Jan 23 2011, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(airline @ Jan 23 2011, 02:32 PM) 2 storey semi-dee is still selling at RM864,800 as compared to > RM million at Setia Alam. Distance to KL for these 2 areas are almost the same. traffic load at Kesas are less than NKVE but with more lorries mainly from west port. |
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Jan 23 2011, 01:54 PM
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with so many property for sales at iproperty, this place is full of speculating....those speculator will soon find it hard to sell their units,developer price start at 600k+, when it tag at 700k after completed, will you buy it? for a tiny 20x70?
there is so many better choice surrounding, because of the promised future development, and a mall is under construction, it still doesn't justify the price, there is so much bigger mall and better development out there. SP just a bloody greedy developer, because u has good name, doesn't mean you can sell what ever price you like. |
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Jan 23 2011, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Jan 23 2011, 02:54 PM) with so many property for sales at iproperty, this place is full of speculating....those speculator will soon find it hard to sell their units,developer price start at 600k+, when it tag at 700k after completed, will you buy it? for a tiny 20x70? Aspen,there is so many better choice surrounding, because of the promised future development, and a mall is under construction, it still doesn't justify the price, there is so much bigger mall and better development out there. SP just a bloody greedy developer, because u has good name, doesn't mean you can sell what ever price you like. I totally agree with your comments. SP does not have social responsibilites at all! They bought 4,000 acres of setia alam at about RM600 mil 8-10 yrs ago and just need to launch 1 high end product i.e. 300 units of 3 storey superlink house selling at min RM1.6 mil will be sufficient to cover the land cost. Don't forget, 300 units property may only take up about 30 acres land. To save more land for future development, many developers have started to built 3 storey link house. Very soon we will see a 4 storey link house introduce to market, which is equivalent to 2 units of duplext townhouse. |
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QUOTE(Ambang2 @ Jan 23 2011, 02:04 PM) Aspen, Not to forget they kan tow the government promising a low-quality MOH research facility in setia alam for a 1.6billion ringgit worth of land in Jalan Bangsar!I totally agree with your comments. SP does not have social responsibilites at all! They bought 4,000 acres of setia alam at about RM600 mil 8-10 yrs ago and just need to launch 1 high end product i.e. 300 units of 3 storey superlink house selling at min RM1.6 mil will be sufficient to cover the land cost. Don't forget, 300 units property may only take up about 30 acres land. To save more land for future development, many developers have started to built 3 storey link house. Very soon we will see a 4 storey link house introduce to market, which is equivalent to 2 units of duplext townhouse. |
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Jan 23 2011, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2011, 03:11 PM) Not to forget they kan tow the government promising a low-quality MOH research facility in setia alam for a 1.6billion ringgit worth of land in Jalan Bangsar! It may take years to complete the government buildings. Moreover, how many civil servants can actually afford setia alam properties with their miserable monthly wage. Most probably these people will stay at low medium cost apartment built in setia alam. |
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QUOTE(Ambang2 @ Jan 23 2011, 02:23 PM) It may take years to complete the government buildings. Moreover, how many civil servants can actually afford setia alam properties with their miserable monthly wage. Most probably these people will stay at low medium cost apartment built in setia alam. setia alam is nearing the last few launches of their township. of course they mark up the price like nobody's business. |
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no matters how high developer sell, people still buy. dont talk about social responsible but individual perception.
If I am SP, I am doing business, not doing charity. Added on January 23, 2011, 2:30 pmno matters how high developer sell, people still buy. dont talk about social responsible but individual perception. If I am SP, I am doing business, not doing charity. This post has been edited by JamesPond: Jan 23 2011, 02:30 PM |
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jan 23 2011, 02:29 PM) Added on January 23, 2011, 2:30 pmno matters how high developer sell, people still buy. dont talk about social responsible but individual perception. If I am SP, I am doing business, not doing charity. this is bisnes not charity, we will be doing the same thing if we are in their shoes what can we do as consumer is : Don't Buy |
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Jan 23 2011, 03:05 PM
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Agree, got money also won't dump into SA anymore.
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jan 23 2011, 02:29 PM) no matters how high developer sell, people still buy. dont talk about social responsible but individual perception. charity? selling something justify the price does not call charity, it call business, that's acceptable! but when selling something does not justify, it call rampage! i don't mind paying big buck for a good big house, atleast it is justify. If I am SP, I am doing business, not doing charity. Added on January 23, 2011, 2:30 pmno matters how high developer sell, people still buy. dont talk about social responsible but individual perception. If I am SP, I am doing business, not doing charity. the whole scenario involved lot of big time speculator, this is the group of investor who boost the SP Boss greedy level by take up at whatever price, not the genuine buyer! you can said those investor make up the scenario, but atleast i don't see other developer doing the same like SP, most are selling high price , but atleast give back with a big, nice and more justify house. |
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2011, 02:26 PM) setia alam is nearing the last few launches of their township. of course they mark up the price like nobody's business. There is one tesco in that area already. Now have a 24 hour KFC and Pizza hut there and more to come. I heard that my friend say that the value of the house ballooned extra 75% from the cost. Oh my godness, next time if the property price still like that it would be years before i can get my own house. QUOTE(epie @ Jan 23 2011, 02:37 PM) agree with u We still need to live in house. Setia Alam seems to be a nice place for me, but the price tag is one of the major problem......this is bisnes not charity, we will be doing the same thing if we are in their shoes what can we do as consumer is : Don't Buy QUOTE(Apscen @ Jan 23 2011, 03:45 PM) charity? selling something justify the price does not call charity, it call business, that's acceptable! but when selling something does not justify, it call rampage! i don't mind paying big buck for a good big house, atleast it is justify. Indeed. Then, use whatever reason to justify them like increase in fuel means increase in material cost, transportation costs and etc.....the whole scenario involved lot of big time speculator, this is the group of investor who boost the SP Boss greedy level by take up at whatever price, not the genuine buyer! you can said those investor make up the scenario, but atleast i don't see other developer doing the same like SP, most are selling high price , but atleast give back with a big, nice and more justify house. |
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Jan 25 2011, 02:53 PM
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the price does seem abit crazy but we can't blame anyone. Willing buyer willing seller. People seem to be still buying even though ridiculous prices but if they dont sell also they have money to hold see who die first =P
if people have money to hold then the price will still escalate. |
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Overpriced, definitely overpriced. Why i say so ? There is so much land in kapar for develpment.
But that is not the main reason i say so. The explanation is bcos sp sells not many units in their phases launched, sell bit by bit, less than 100units every time launch, by doing so they bait people into thinking another phase is sold out. Still got ppl falling into this trap even though their brains are able to earn rm5k per month salary. hahaha... |
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Jan 25 2011, 03:37 PM
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if can earn RM5k p/m got to have some brain also
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Jan 25 2011, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 03:25 PM) Overpriced, definitely overpriced. Why i say so ? There is so much land in kapar for develpment. constructive reply! But that is not the main reason i say so. The explanation is bcos sp sells not many units in their phases launched, sell bit by bit, less than 100units every time launch, by doing so they bait people into thinking another phase is sold out. Still got ppl falling into this trap even though their brains are able to earn rm5k per month salary. hahaha... now about the limited unit per launch, it's well explained as part of marketing gimmick! |
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Jan 25 2011, 03:56 PM
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Bandar bukit Raja pricing is getting to that ridiculous level too. More so, BBR is in Klang.
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 03:25 PM) Overpriced, definitely overpriced. Why i say so ? There is so much land in kapar for develpment. The place is nice to stay. You know any good place that does not cost that much and almost similar to Setia Alam within KL's 10KM radius?But that is not the main reason i say so. The explanation is bcos sp sells not many units in their phases launched, sell bit by bit, less than 100units every time launch, by doing so they bait people into thinking another phase is sold out. Still got ppl falling into this trap even though their brains are able to earn rm5k per month salary. hahaha... |
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 25 2011, 04:12 PM) The place is nice to stay. You know any good place that does not cost that much and almost similar to Setia Alam within KL's 10KM radius? For that price it better be 'oohlala' but i see just another house with 4 brick walls+windows, did not make my mouth say 'waaaah !', only the price made me 'WAAAAH!'.The trick is to look for something priced less but offering same/better deal. BBR used to be this 'deal', but its going up now, but still can go in to grab. And in terms of attractive design + brand name + quality, sime delivers. If u got patience and not have itchy wallet, just wait. U'll see other developers going in just like what happened in puchong, boom. Can find cheaper alternatives then. |
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 04:25 PM) For that price it better be 'oohlala' but i see just another house with 4 brick walls+windows, did not make my mouth say 'waaaah !', only the price made me 'WAAAAH!'. LOL.The trick is to look for something priced less but offering same/better deal. BBR used to be this 'deal', but its going up now, but still can go in to grab. And in terms of attractive design + brand name + quality, sime delivers. If u got patience and not have itchy wallet, just wait. U'll see other developers going in just like what happened in puchong, boom. Can find cheaper alternatives then. BBR is a safe place to live? How attractive design it could be? Website or pictures? QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jan 25 2011, 04:26 PM) AP? |
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 03:25 PM) The explanation is bcos sp sells not many units in their phases launched, sell bit by bit, less than 100units every time launch, by doing so they bait people into thinking another phase is sold out. tis one, i also read peopl say in other forums.then others say there one year launch 1,500 units, so peopl can't be that stupid... if devp launch 500 or 1000 houses in one shot, will surely be cheap. |
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Let u all see, which house more attractive to u ? 1 of them belongs to sp, another sd. After u decide, go google avani to see if u chose this 1.
![]() ![]() In early years, they need to bluf ppl to buy farfarawayland mah.. so sell cheap2 but need volume to show in annual report, so sell hundreds. The latest phase terrace house launched by sp is only 76 units. http://sites.google.com/site/thepeakbukitp...ingwiththetimes Added on January 25, 2011, 4:52 pmps Setia alam only 1/2 developed, so they stil got lots lots land there. Why the rush ? The more u rush, the higher they price. This post has been edited by mrPOTATO: Jan 25 2011, 04:52 PM |
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 03:25 PM) Overpriced, definitely overpriced. Why i say so ? There is so much land in kapar for develpment. Overpriced is an overstatement i think ... SP setia spent millions of dollars developing this township , from ZERO 6 years ago to a sustainable township today with direct link to NKVE, international schoools, chinese schools, Tesco, Setia City Mall, Starbucks, KFC etc etc ... not forgetting also they spent lots of money developing nice landscapes, parks , etc ... But that is not the main reason i say so. The explanation is bcos sp sells not many units in their phases launched, sell bit by bit, less than 100units every time launch, by doing so they bait people into thinking another phase is sold out. Still got ppl falling into this trap even though their brains are able to earn rm5k per month salary. hahaha... It is natural that a township starts with affordable housing in the beginning to pull in the crowd, and getting more and more expensive when more and more ppl starts to appreciate it (demand > supply)... Honestly speaking, as a resident in SA since 4 months ago, I appreciate every single moment that I live here, including the time when I drive around Setia Alam and feel so relaxed because of the nice effort done by SP Setia (wide roads, lakes, parks, landscaping, greens, amenities etc) ... it is very different from other townships, even some of them just across the road (Aman Perdana, Bandar Bukit Raja)... Added on January 25, 2011, 5:14 pm QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 04:49 PM) Let u all see, which house more attractive to u ? 1 of them belongs to sp, another sd. After u decide, go google avani to see if u chose this 1. Solely based on the facade, i will definitely choose the 1st one (Avani) ... but do note that buying a house is not buying into the facade only ... facade can be changed (if u have money to renovate it kau kau), but location and surroundings cannot be changed ...![]() ![]() In early years, they need to bluf ppl to buy farfarawayland mah.. so sell cheap2 but need volume to show in annual report, so sell hundreds. The latest phase terrace house launched by sp is only 76 units. http://sites.google.com/site/thepeakbukitp...ingwiththetimes Added on January 25, 2011, 4:52 pmps Setia alam only 1/2 developed, so they stil got lots lots land there. Why the rush ? The more u rush, the higher they price. This post has been edited by supersp: Jan 25 2011, 05:14 PM |
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QUOTE(supersp @ Jan 25 2011, 05:10 PM) Overpriced is an overstatement i think ... SP setia spent millions of dollars developing this township , from ZERO 6 years ago to a sustainable township today with direct link to NKVE, international schoools, chinese schools, Tesco, Setia City Mall, Starbucks, KFC etc etc ... not forgetting also they spent lots of money developing nice landscapes, parks , etc ... been staying in SA for the past near 3yrs, from what i seen is from Klang standard heading towards KL standards. So, u pay for what u can get on the amenities, blablabla. U want nice township, u pay more.......simple as that. It is natural that a township starts with affordable housing in the beginning to pull in the crowd, and getting more and more expensive when more and more ppl starts to appreciate it (demand > supply)... Honestly speaking, as a resident in SA since 4 months ago, I appreciate every single moment that I live here, including the time when I drive around Setia Alam and feel so relaxed because of the nice effort done by SP Setia (wide roads, lakes, parks, landscaping, greens, amenities etc) ... it is very different from other townships, even some of them just across the road (Aman Perdana, Bandar Bukit Raja)... For own stay, as long as security isn't the main issue, i don't really mind if it turns to a wonderful township or whatsoever. |
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 04:49 PM) Let u all see, which house more attractive to u ? 1 of them belongs to sp, another sd. After u decide, go google avani to see if u chose this 1. LOL. The down picture is where? Setia Alam? It seems that is is more spacious compared to the top.....» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « In early years, they need to bluf ppl to buy farfarawayland mah.. so sell cheap2 but need volume to show in annual report, so sell hundreds. The latest phase terrace house launched by sp is only 76 units. http://sites.google.com/site/thepeakbukitp...ingwiththetimes Added on January 25, 2011, 4:52 pmps Setia alam only 1/2 developed, so they stil got lots lots land there. Why the rush ? The more u rush, the higher they price. QUOTE(supersp @ Jan 25 2011, 05:10 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on January 25, 2011, 5:14 pm Solely based on the facade, i will definitely choose the 1st one (Avani) ... but do note that buying a house is not buying into the facade only ... facade can be changed (if u have money to renovate it kau kau), but location and surroundings cannot be changed ... QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 25 2011, 05:29 PM) been staying in SA for the past near 3yrs, from what i seen is from Klang standard heading towards KL standards. So, u pay for what u can get on the amenities, blablabla. U want nice township, u pay more.......simple as that. Security is one of my main concern for choosing a place to stay in around KL area.For own stay, as long as security isn't the main issue, i don't really mind if it turns to a wonderful township or whatsoever. This post has been edited by Quantum_thinking: Jan 25 2011, 05:34 PM |
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the money we pay to buy a house is not just about the land, built up and structure of the house, but also the surrounding factors. like landscaping, amenities, township design and so on.
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QUOTE(wenloong78 @ Feb 25 2011, 05:24 PM) the money we pay to buy a house is not just about the land, built up and structure of the house, but also the surrounding factors. like landscaping, amenities, township design and so on. Added on February 25, 2011, 7:59 pmSetia alam now is very expensive. It's true that there are still undeveloped land. I think SA took advantage of the good sentiment. Cannot be that all the new launching increase. Now is already more than 600k. BBR is also expensive, Within the reasonable range. Avani design n layout is very nice. This post has been edited by Neoh1979: Feb 25 2011, 07:59 PM |
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For existing owners in Setia Alam, are there disadvantages for the crazy price increase for new launch?
With Setia Alam increasing the prices of new launch, does it in a way helped the existing owners of past launches to increase their property value? |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Feb 26 2011, 12:05 AM) For existing owners in Setia Alam, are there disadvantages for the crazy price increase for new launch? I guess the property value does increase, but it is not realise only. With Setia Alam increasing the prices of new launch, does it in a way helped the existing owners of past launches to increase their property value? |
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Just cant wait for setia mall to be up..Anyone knows when exactly it will be ready??
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 04:49 PM) Let u all see, which house more attractive to u ? 1 of them belongs to sp, another sd. After u decide, go google avani to see if u chose this 1. Guyz... be aware of the flat roof design on the top floor....![]() ![]() In early years, they need to bluf ppl to buy farfarawayland mah.. so sell cheap2 but need volume to show in annual report, so sell hundreds. The latest phase terrace house launched by sp is only 76 units. http://sites.google.com/site/thepeakbukitp...ingwiththetimes Added on January 25, 2011, 4:52 pmps Setia alam only 1/2 developed, so they stil got lots lots land there. Why the rush ? The more u rush, the higher they price. How if future it crack? Like my mums house, flat design looks good. But for future repair and maintenance work is another story... Added on March 2, 2011, 5:09 pm QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 25 2011, 04:49 PM) Let u all see, which house more attractive to u ? 1 of them belongs to sp, another sd. After u decide, go google avani to see if u chose this 1. Guyz... be aware of the flat roof design on the top floor....![]() ![]() In early years, they need to bluf ppl to buy farfarawayland mah.. so sell cheap2 but need volume to show in annual report, so sell hundreds. The latest phase terrace house launched by sp is only 76 units. http://sites.google.com/site/thepeakbukitp...ingwiththetimes Added on January 25, 2011, 4:52 pmps Setia alam only 1/2 developed, so they stil got lots lots land there. Why the rush ? The more u rush, the higher they price. How if future it crack? Like my mums house, flat design looks good. But for future repair and maintenance work is another story... This post has been edited by Mosses: Mar 2 2011, 05:09 PM |
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QUOTE(Mosses @ Mar 2 2011, 05:09 PM) Guyz... be aware of the flat roof design on the top floor.... Umm, what kind of maintenance work be involved? How if future it crack? Like my mums house, flat design looks good. But for future repair and maintenance work is another story... QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 2 2011, 05:28 PM) Last time, that fellow show the example for me. |
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QUOTE(ah rayn @ Feb 27 2011, 12:40 AM) you oledi know the following coming:. golden screen cinemas . parkson grand . wangsa bowl . harvey norman . machines (apple) just read somewhere, TGIF just confirmed opening there. yeah, if that cemetary will birng prices down, good for those who missed... This post has been edited by AVFAN: Mar 2 2011, 09:52 PM |
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QUOTE(Neoh1979 @ Mar 3 2011, 07:45 PM) we did... point A done then point B come out few months later.. wht to do..Added on March 4, 2011, 10:16 am QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Mar 3 2011, 09:21 PM) How come can become like that 1? is actually divide into to area.. one part is concrete + steel and another area is some think like steel plate but bottom is concrete.. What does the flat roof is made of? Concrete + steel? Other examples of the problem? Thanks. This post has been edited by Mosses: Mar 4 2011, 10:16 AM |
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QUOTE(Mosses @ Mar 4 2011, 10:13 AM) is actually divide into to area.. one part is concrete + steel and another area is some think like steel plate but bottom is concrete.. Walau. Even the house i rent, the water managed to slip through the concrete from my toilet ( 2nd floor) into the kitchen. The risk is surely there for the leakage. Now, it has gone from bad to worse. What to do. Thanks for the information. Next time would avoid that kind of house design. |
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Mar 4 2011, 01:56 PM) Walau. Even the house i rent, the water managed to slip through the concrete from my toilet ( 2nd floor) into the kitchen. The risk is surely there for the leakage. hi, toilet is more easier.. you just go accessories shop and tell them the toilet leakage..Now, it has gone from bad to worse. What to do. Thanks for the information. Next time would avoid that kind of house design. they will give u one liquid bottle and pour it on your toilet floor it will help.. try it.. else... need to hack.... worse... |
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QUOTE(Mosses @ Mar 7 2011, 11:12 AM) hi, toilet is more easier.. you just go accessories shop and tell them the toilet leakage.. Seriously? Mind to tell me the name for it? Why not you tried this kind of solution in your roof? they will give u one liquid bottle and pour it on your toilet floor it will help.. try it.. else... need to hack.... worse... |
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 2 2011, 09:34 PM) you oledi know the following coming: fridays...wow..nice... . golden screen cinemas . parkson grand . wangsa bowl . harvey norman . machines (apple) just read somewhere, TGIF just confirmed opening there. yeah, if that cemetary will birng prices down, good for those who missed... i hope newway karaokae is coming here.. |
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Mar 7 2011, 09:31 PM) i can't remember the name of it but just go and they will introduce u.i tried.. but cannot .. may b roof is different -> outdoor.. anyway.. i move out liao.. so i can said i don't care liao... |
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QUOTE(sIncHan @ Jul 24 2009, 12:51 PM) I have heard that SA houses are built by two different contractors, of which one of them was lousy, and those houses built by them have serious crackings problems. You may drop by to areas like Bromera and you will shocked by looking at the cracks, esp those with extended kitchens.. This is true especially for those with extensive kitchen extend or rebuild the extra 5ft land. This can be overcome by adding extra piles to make the land more solid. of course it is very expensive to do thatDue to that, their contract was terminated, and new contractor comes in.. I do not know how far this can be true, but at least from my last few visits, the newly built houses are quite well done.. We need someone who from SP Setia to clarify this.. By the way, it seems we don't have many SA buyers in LYN.. anyway due to I love the environment and the township there, i still bought one last year after i seek the advise from some contractors and engineers. of course the one i bought is no major crack and no kitchen extend. i think it is worth for me to buy a house there at 275k, and it had appreciated to 350k this year Added on March 10, 2011, 9:03 am QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 24 2011, 11:54 AM) There is one tesco in that area already. Now have a 24 hour KFC and Pizza hut there and more to come. I heard that my friend say that the value of the house ballooned extra 75% from the cost. Oh my godness, next time if the property price still like that it would be years before i can get my own house. u can actually get the sub sale house like me...not necessary u have to get a whole new house..don't constraint urself..We still need to live in house. Setia Alam seems to be a nice place for me, but the price tag is one of the major problem...... Indeed. Then, use whatever reason to justify them like increase in fuel means increase in material cost, transportation costs and etc..... This post has been edited by tnchsg: Mar 10 2011, 09:03 AM |
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Mar 17 2011, 08:52 PM
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hi guys, anyone heard of Trasharta Property Solutions?
im interested in 1 unit in setia alam which is under this agency. |
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QUOTE(tnchsg @ Mar 9 2011, 04:53 PM) This is true especially for those with extensive kitchen extend or rebuild the extra 5ft land. This can be overcome by adding extra piles to make the land more solid. of course it is very expensive to do that Umm, sub sale the house? Meaning selling half of the house? anyway due to I love the environment and the township there, i still bought one last year after i seek the advise from some contractors and engineers. of course the one i bought is no major crack and no kitchen extend. i think it is worth for me to buy a house there at 275k, and it had appreciated to 350k this year Added on March 10, 2011, 9:03 am u can actually get the sub sale house like me...not necessary u have to get a whole new house..don't constraint urself.. |
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Mar 17 2011, 11:36 PM) Don't really know about sub sale a house. I am here to survey for more information only. Subsale is sell whole house. Sub-subsale is sell half the house.Selling half of the house is sub sale? p/s joking lah. subsale is sell whole house lah. where got sell half house one? |
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Mar 17 2011, 11:36 PM) Don't really know about sub sale a house. I am here to survey for more information only. Sub sale means selling a house in the secondary market i.e. owner selling a second-hand (or 3rd hand or 4th hand and so on) house , not a sale of a new house direct from developer. If sale of new house i.e. first-hand from developer it is referred to as a sale in the primary market.Selling half of the house is sub sale? |
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Mar 18 2011, 08:51 AM
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[quote=baharinsav62,Mar 18 2011, 08:48 AM]
Hi bro ur here too. Welcome back from overseas.... |
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[quote=henryhing,Mar 18 2011, 08:51 AM]
[quote=baharinsav62,Mar 18 2011, 08:48 AM] Hi bro ur here too. Welcome back from overseas.... [/quote] Hi bro thanks for the welcome, just came back 2 days ago. Any way, I sometimes surf LYN to share views on property. Setia Alam is quite interesting, up-and-coming township with booming potential and also with high prices. I'm not vested in SP Setia (used to be but sold off my unit already) but now with Alam Nusantara and Anjung Sari, both also in Setia Alam. |
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QUOTE(baharinsav62 @ Mar 18 2011, 09:00 AM) Hi bro thanks for the welcome, just came back 2 days ago. Any way, I sometimes surf LYN to share views on property. Thats gr8. We should meet up la when free..Anyway if got any good investment do let me know too la. Vice versa.Setia Alam is quite interesting, up-and-coming township with booming potential and also with high prices. I'm not vested in SP Setia (used to be but sold off my unit already) but now with Alam Nusantara and Anjung Sari, both also in Setia Alam. Welcome back to Malaysia. Cheers This post has been edited by henryhing: Mar 18 2011, 09:38 AM |
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QUOTE(baharinsav62 @ Mar 18 2011, 08:48 AM) Sub sale means selling a house in the secondary market i.e. owner selling a second-hand (or 3rd hand or 4th hand and so on) house , not a sale of a new house direct from developer. If sale of new house i.e. first-hand from developer it is referred to as a sale in the primary market. Thanks for replying. Appreciate it. |
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Mar 20 2011, 07:15 PM
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I had stay SA for 2 years. Township is good, I hope it won't turn out be like like puchong. I prefer the township be organised, ppl follow town regulations, exp parking, driving, cleanliness, not too comoercialised. The design township is good.
For older phase, I would say their design is old fashion and some land settlement problem. My unit is consider the last kind of the old design. Sometime reglad abit bcoz not too wait a bit and purchase newer design or bigger unit. Now the resale price really shoot up. My friend bought a 20 70 for 500k with built up 2k. The unit is only 300k, 3 year ago. I bought mine about 230k. |
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Ya I also like the serene feeling especially during weekend when hujan.. Wah really relax and nice. Not many cars. Walk around the park in the evening damm shiok. Township quite neat and organize for now but hopefully will remain like that...Now waiting for setia city to come up..
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any new lauch project there?
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Apr 7 2011, 02:00 PM
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Opposite of setia alam have by pkns.
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Apr 16 2011, 08:52 AM
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PKNS project is normally for those salary not more than 3K? I always confused, maybe someone can enlighten me abit:)
Simon http://www.setiacorner.com - Setia Alam Business Directory |
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Apr 16 2011, 09:23 AM
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but it no longer cheap anymore, subsale price same as setia alam currently
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QUOTE(simonheng82 @ Apr 16 2011, 08:52 AM) PKNS project is normally for those salary not more than 3K? I always confused, maybe someone can enlighten me abit:) maybe you think low cost houses/apts are done by pkns only and only pkns build these low cost homes? i think not... pkns is a developer that build all kinds, many are normal price, anyone can buy. lost cost homes can be built by any developer, but buyers must register, qualify and get allocation from ministry, i think... |
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I was thinking to buy the Axillaris Semi-D (Cluster Homes) @ RM500K. built up is 1706 Sq. Ft. which I think price is reasonable. but I need to get some advise from all of big bro&sis here. thanks for your advise in advance
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View the house & check the details before making decision. Beware house soil settlement, structure crack. There quite alots poor workmanship on particular early phase of construction in setia alam. Seeing / viewing is believing. 33x55 RM500k reasonable? It's not as big as you expected.
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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Apr 19 2011, 12:28 AM) I was thinking to buy the Axillaris Semi-D (Cluster Homes) @ RM500K. built up is 1706 Sq. Ft. which I think price is reasonable. but I need to get some advise from all of big bro&sis here. thanks for your advise in advance Hi there, I got the same offer as well. Try google the layout around and have a look. My current 22*75 got a built-up of 1580 sq. ft. without the extension on the back. This cluster semi-d home is basically give u a semi-d land, but normal DSL built-up. I suggest you do more research 1st. I would say the word semi-d sounds very tempting as to me also.. |
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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Apr 19 2011, 12:28 AM) I was thinking to buy the Axillaris Semi-D (Cluster Homes) @ RM500K. built up is 1706 Sq. Ft. which I think price is reasonable. but I need to get some advise from all of big bro&sis here. thanks for your advise in advance this one still under construction, right?it not mistaken, this one is on a hill, cut ground, should have no soil issues. i think this cluster type is not as popular as the std 20x70 with bigger bu. imo, price 500k is a bit on the high side, i wud check and compare against 20x70 and 20x65. anyway, do you know the bank valuation of this axilliaris? This post has been edited by AVFAN: Apr 19 2011, 11:48 AM |
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QUOTE(4evernelson @ Apr 19 2011, 08:23 AM) View the house & check the details before making decision. Beware house soil settlement, structure crack. There quite alots poor workmanship on particular early phase of construction in setia alam. Seeing / viewing is believing. 33x55 RM500k reasonable? It's not as big as you expected. cluster semi-d not big as you though especially when you have childmaybe you can consider subsales or topup some to get 20x70 |
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agreed~
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Any condo in setia?
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I am thinking of buying a sub-sale double storey terrace in Setia Alam. New units are just too expensive for me. Hope to get a second hand at around 350K to 400K.
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It's quite difficult to get the range mentioned by you for a 20x70 double terrace, due to brain wash by property agent & surrounding rumors & hot property~ most of the owner would like to let go at 400k above ~ anyhow I think
18 x 65 they still selling at this price range 350~400k, there are for 20x75 but very less,beware for cheap unit,see the house structure & soil settlement carefully. |
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QUOTE(lch78 @ Apr 24 2011, 06:19 PM) I am thinking of buying a sub-sale double storey terrace in Setia Alam. New units are just too expensive for me. Hope to get a second hand at around 350K to 400K. setia ones will be a bit bard for that budget, would be the smaller and older ones.Any recommendations? you can check the pkns subsale ones at alam nusantara - the first 20x70 ones may meet yr budget. |
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Wuhuuu, i called the banker just now and he say that i can loan up to 500k, muahahahaha
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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Apr 19 2011, 12:28 AM) I was thinking to buy the Axillaris Semi-D (Cluster Homes) @ RM500K. built up is 1706 Sq. Ft. which I think price is reasonable. but I need to get some advise from all of big bro&sis here. thanks for your advise in advance How's the sales for this cluster semi-d? Personally I feel it's too small for family house, just slightly bigger than condo. |
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QUOTE(4evernelson @ Apr 25 2011, 09:33 AM) It's quite difficult to get the range mentioned by you for a 20x70 double terrace, due to brain wash by property agent & surrounding rumors & hot property~ most of the owner would like to let go at 400k above ~ anyhow I think 18 x 65 they still selling at this price range 350~400k, there are for 20x75 but very less,beware for cheap unit,see the house structure & soil settlement carefully. QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 25 2011, 10:28 AM) setia ones will be a bit bard for that budget, would be the smaller and older ones. Thank you for the advice... you can check the pkns subsale ones at alam nusantara - the first 20x70 ones may meet yr budget. |
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For the past few weeks, I think I have received like 6 agents sms/calling me asking whether I want to sell my house (which is not even ready). Bought about Dec 2009, supposed to be ready by Dec 2011.
20x65. Bought RM377k, now agents are offering RM499k. I am happy |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 10 2011, 04:19 PM) For the past few weeks, I think I have received like 6 agents sms/calling me asking whether I want to sell my house (which is not even ready). Bought about Dec 2009, supposed to be ready by Dec 2011. U r happy but we are un happy due to sub sale price is sky high. It's difficult to find a reasonable subsale house over that area now.20x65. Bought RM377k, now agents are offering RM499k. I am happy |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 10 2011, 04:19 PM) For the past few weeks, I think I have received like 6 agents sms/calling me asking whether I want to sell my house (which is not even ready). Bought about Dec 2009, supposed to be ready by Dec 2011. That's about 30%, which I think is not very fantastic gain though. You still need to factor in cost such as agent fees, RPGT, interest, legal fees, etc. After deducting all this, your gain might be just slightly more than 20%.20x65. Bought RM377k, now agents are offering RM499k. I am happy |
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agreed..not only that area but almost everywhere
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QUOTE(super911 @ May 10 2011, 05:07 PM) That's about 30%, which I think is not very fantastic gain though. You still need to factor in cost such as agent fees, RPGT, interest, legal fees, etc. After deducting all this, your gain might be just slightly more than 20%. 1 1/2 year, house not even ready, increase 20% to 30%, not fantastic? I only paid 5%, zero moving cost... So what percentage is consider good?Are there any other examples of property haven ready, can make 'very fantastic gain'? This is my first house investment, sorry if noob cause didn't expect to see money return so fast |
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New units are scarce. Last weekend went to the Sales Office and only one is left for the new unit, which is a corner unit and it is selling for $900++k.
Spsetia purposely release new units in small quantities so as to protect the secondary market value while enjoying higher profit margin on the new launch. I see the developer still got so much land to develop in that area... |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 10 2011, 05:52 PM) 1 1/2 year, house not even ready, increase 20% to 30%, not fantastic? I only paid 5%, zero moving cost... So what percentage is consider good? Are there any other examples of property haven ready, can make 'very fantastic gain'? This is my first house investment, sorry if noob cause didn't expect to see money return so fast it's true 20-30% capital appr is average. there are a good no. with 40-50% upon completion. the 5% cash down makes it a big winner, in roi%, it's like 500% - not so common. you were smart to buy at right time, it's not going to repeat anytime soon! QUOTE(lch78 @ May 10 2011, 11:42 PM) Spsetia purposely release new units in small quantities so as to protect the secondary market value while enjoying higher profit margin on the new launch. I see the developer still got so much land to develop in that area... if that is correct, bandar bukit raja, denai alam, bandar botanic, etc. should all get same kind of result?some housing areas been selling for 8-10 years now, still not over. quite normal for large devs to sell in stages, take many years. houses not like condos. condos - 3 blocks x 500 units - 1,500 - one launch. if not mistaken, they have so far launched something like 2,000 houses a year for 5-6 years now. possible any developer launch 10,000 houses all at same time? but the point will be valid if there is only 1,000 to sell, launch 100 every 3m for 3+ years. maybe bandar kinrara? This post has been edited by AVFAN: May 26 2011, 10:19 PM |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 10 2011, 04:19 PM) For the past few weeks, I think I have received like 6 agents sms/calling me asking whether I want to sell my house (which is not even ready). Bought about Dec 2009, supposed to be ready by Dec 2011. Another agent called. RM520k now. Fuyoh...20x65. Bought RM377k, now agents are offering RM499k. I am happy |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 3 2011, 03:23 PM) happy for you~but better ask agent to confirm is there a buyer 1st or "illusion" buyer~ sometimes, buyer will not buy due to over value due to difficult to get loan from bank if not mistaken bank value 20x65 for 480K max OCBC Added on June 3, 2011, 3:34 pm QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 3 2011, 03:23 PM) happy for you~but better ask agent to confirm is there a buyer 1st or "illusion" buyer~ sometimes, buyer will not buy due to over value due to difficult to get loan from bank if not mistaken bank value 20x65 for 480K max OCBC This post has been edited by 4evernelson: Jun 3 2011, 03:34 PM |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 3 2011, 03:23 PM) probably can for newly completed 20x65. heard next new 30x55 cluster >560k, next new 20x70 >640k.it's gone crazy there. maybe partly driven by upbeat news of the mall. won't be like ss2 mall gua... QUOTE Greenhill development director Robert Spinks said out of the 250 retailers expected 160 have confirmed their slots in Setia City Mall. http://www.malaysiapropertynews.net/2011/0...ll-revenue.html This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jun 3 2011, 03:37 PM |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 3 2011, 03:23 PM) The same agent called today asking Am I willing to sell at RM530k. He said his buyer is genuine.Only 1 week since I last heard from him and now offer RM10k more. I tempted to tell him wait until RM600k only you call me With the rate it is going, looks like it is possible by year end when the handover is completed. This post has been edited by auhckw: Jun 11 2011, 12:52 AM |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 11 2011, 12:50 AM) The same agent called today asking Am I willing to sell at RM530k. He said his buyer is genuine. It may be happen too if there is buyer keen to buy .Only 1 week since I last heard from him and now offer RM10k more. I tempted to tell him wait until RM600k only you call me :clap: With the rate it is going, looks like it is possible by year end when the handover is completed. |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 3 2011, 03:23 PM) you should keep the house, maybe can go up RM550K expected by next May when Setia Mall opensbut then again .. it is a nice area to stay. unless you already have a house somewhere else. you might consider this as your future home. however, a burst is inevitable in the next 18-24 months ... Added on June 11, 2011, 9:09 am QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 11 2011, 12:50 AM) The same agent called today asking Am I willing to sell at RM530k. He said his buyer is genuine. valuer won't be able to price the house so high, hence, buyer must willing to fork out +100K to buy the house, not many can afford. Only 1 week since I last heard from him and now offer RM10k more. I tempted to tell him wait until RM600k only you call me With the rate it is going, looks like it is possible by year end when the handover is completed. At most RM515K for now. This post has been edited by thechallenger: Jun 11 2011, 09:09 AM |
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QUOTE(thechallenger @ Jun 11 2011, 09:07 AM) you should keep the house, maybe can go up RM550K expected by next May when Setia Mall opens Yes, I think should keep the house for awhile till at least handover and see how the value is then before deciding to move there or sell. No hurries as I have (parents) house to stay now.but then again .. it is a nice area to stay. unless you already have a house somewhere else. you might consider this as your future home. however, a burst is inevitable in the next 18-24 months ... Added on June 11, 2011, 9:09 am valuer won't be able to price the house so high, hence, buyer must willing to fork out +100K to buy the house, not many can afford. At most RM515K for now. |
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Looks like another Kota kemuning price shoot up but this 1 with megamall~
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i think there is something wrong in your situation. My friend just bought a fully BU 20 x 70 (2,168sq ft) subsale at RM550k only mar.
Anyway, if its really true..happy for you and me too cause i bought my 20 x 70 last year at 420k only..hehe. So mine is 600k then? |
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Depending on your intention when purchasing the house earlier.
If you are looking for a comfortable, spacious house, let it be a terrace or semi d cluster, then Setia Alam houses are damn expensive for the size and location. I'ved been there when I was looking for my second house last time....and frankly, not worth the additional money. I got my Semi D cluster at RM318K not far from there and the build up alone is 2150 sf. |
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QUOTE(Donnthk @ Jun 22 2011, 05:55 PM) Depending on your intention when purchasing the house earlier. U bought in klang?If you are looking for a comfortable, spacious house, let it be a terrace or semi d cluster, then Setia Alam houses are damn expensive for the size and location. I'ved been there when I was looking for my second house last time....and frankly, not worth the additional money. I got my Semi D cluster at RM318K not far from there and the build up alone is 2150 sf. |
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there will be a 90 hec cemetery land to be graze behind Eco park.
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I heard that SP Setia is going to launch Maranta this weekend, 20x70 with 668K ... very high price ...
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QUOTE(Donnthk @ Jun 22 2011, 05:55 PM) If you are looking for a comfortable, spacious house, let it be a terrace or semi d cluster, then Setia Alam houses are damn expensive for the size and location. one's person meat is another person's poison.I'ved been there when I was looking for my second house last time....and frankly, not worth the additional money. I got my Semi D cluster at RM318K not far from there and the build up alone is 2150 sf. You should see Setia Alam as the whole integrated development of 4000acres, not just a single phase with single price tag. I personally find SA better value for money and a much nicer place to live in. disclaimer - not the selling price within the last 9 months. Don, what will be your SMD Cluster asking @ subsale market now? mind to share? |
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 10 2011, 05:23 PM) ya. went there today left few units. most forums no hiu this place anymore la... so dem expensive now. some still say uluuu...Heard from SA nx week will launch the soho/ service apartment. 4xx sqft. min RM250k. worth to invest? try this one, maybe you can get some info and comments: http://forum.setiaalam.net/index.php This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 10 2011, 08:50 PM |
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i think the developer will be find it hard to tag a price for their new launch in future, as they are going to far and greedy, and they can't tag it cheaper than previous launch, they are stuck, launching a soho/aprt could be ideally to temporary overcome the awkward situation
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Jul 11 2011, 01:48 AM
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today Maranta is stil in BBB mode..
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 11 2011, 10:58 AM) But still have few units left. Maybe going again this weekend to see the SoHo. Rm 250k beside shopping mall. havnt launch yet right?what do u think of the rental of service apartment or soho? resell value high? can it b another kota damansara? but the answer is stil the Klang or shah alam |
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QUOTE(bluuberry @ Jul 11 2011, 04:56 PM) havnt launch yet right? not yet launch. SA said nx week. what do u think of the rental of service apartment or soho? resell value high? can it b another kota damansara? but the answer is stil the Klang or shah alam At the moment i think will be hard to rent out as all the offices are not completed yet. I saw the master plan look quite nice, it will be surrounded by many office tower and it is just beside a shopping mall. The shopping already can see the builing structure up. Will be open on 2012. So i guess once shopping mall open, the price will increase. Need more sifu to comment on this as I have no experience, all just base on my assumption. haha |
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Jul 12 2011, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 8 2011, 01:53 PM) one's person meat is another person's poison. Yup, you are correct to point out that all depends on the preferance. As for me, a nice spacious home and $. You should see Setia Alam as the whole integrated development of 4000acres, not just a single phase with single price tag. I personally find SA better value for money and a much nicer place to live in. disclaimer - not the selling price within the last 9 months. Don, what will be your SMD Cluster asking @ subsale market now? mind to share? Surely, if $ is not the issue, I would have bought a semi at Ara Damansara per say (close to work)....... FYI, Aman Perdana is not bad as well. The place is being developed as a Medium/High End type of houses by Mah Sing. Only bungalows and semi Ds are being sold. Not a single terrace house there. However, the cons are: 1) Road - about 3 kms from the traffic light (McD) 2) Factories - close by As for the selling price now, my nebor sold his house for 425K in Jan 2011. Cheers |
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Jul 12 2011, 06:07 PM
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hello! anyone who has made a booking and is interested to apply from pbb, please call me at 016-5944629.
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QUOTE(Donnthk @ Jul 8 2011, 11:09 AM) Yes bro....the address is Aman Perdana, 41050, Klang. But only 3 km away from the McD and the junction. Just accross the main road, its Setia Alam with the postcode of Shah Alam...hehehehe... Just like taman puncak jalil and Kinrara, both r neighbour, but price is far different |
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QUOTE(airline @ Jul 12 2011, 07:52 PM) looks like Setia Alam is not very popular here! You mean Bar or just sell alcoholic drinks? Go to Tesco Setia Alam.....just like any other tesco, got non-halal section.....beside Overtime is opening soon.... the whole Setia City is gazzetted under International Trade licence, so all sinful activities can be carried out here...sinful means entertainment...not banned activities like brothel and etc..... |
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i tot Shah Alam is Sultan / King's area so entertaiment such as disco or overtime is prohibited~ that's y subang jaya is so happening~
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 13 2011, 05:05 PM) looks like Setia Alam is not very popular here! this place dun have any disco, pub, karaoke ,hotel,papaya farm and illegal casino, but have massage palour,the chinese rautaurant all closed at 12am, only mamak rest open.....the nearest pub/disco/hotel at jalan meru/klang parade/klang city or just drive all the way to PJ You mean Bar or just sell alcoholic drinks? Go to Tesco Setia Alam.....just like any other tesco, got non-halal section.....beside Overtime is opening soon.... the whole Setia City is gazzetted under International Trade licence, so all sinful activities can be carried out here...sinful means entertainment...not banned activities like brothel and etc..... for own stay/retire ppl/family is a peace and good place, if want enjoy/entertainment /restaurant ,PJ ,sg long or bandar puteri puchong property still the best This post has been edited by jscyl1980: Jul 13 2011, 05:38 PM |
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Jul 19 2011, 07:15 PM
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Maranta- service apartment/soho whether still available, anyone know the price and built-up ?
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i think it will only be launched this saturday?
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is it confirm this sat launch
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I wish to sell my aman perdana semi-d.., I wish the word "aman perdana" can be replace by SP~~ kakakkaa~~~~!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpe_1TlVHyI
setia city mall phase 1 looks interesting All props just behind it will have a big jump in price when this completes. better grab fast now.. This post has been edited by henryhing: Aug 9 2011, 08:40 PM |
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confirm soho will be launched this week? this 1st soho in SA right?
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QUOTE(henryhing @ Aug 9 2011, 08:35 PM) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpe_1TlVHyI First time property buyer, SA MIMOSA 20 x 70 @ 688 K , is it worth buy. Please Advicesetia city mall phase 1 looks interesting All props just behind it will have a big jump in price when this completes. better grab fast now.. |
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@kumararumugam, i just saw a Fragesia unit also 20 x 70 last Saturday. The price is RM500k. If you want, I can pass you the number of the agent. If buying for own stay, should get the cheaper price as Fragesia is nearing completion. If for investment, I don't think the price can appreciate further anymore as the initial price was RM310k, now already RM500k.
In the end I'm aiming for AyuLestari by PKNS, bigger build up and cheaper at RM480k. |
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Aug 10 2011, 10:48 PM
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Any news for coming launching?
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QUOTE(4evernelson @ Aug 10 2011, 10:55 PM) u may visit the SP Setia welcome centre at Setia Alam for more information instead of keep waiting the news here. Ya, you are right. When the news are annouce here~ it's too late~ But kinda far for me to travel there. May be anyone who got any news from sales office may share here. |
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Just goto SARA http://www.setiaalam.net/sara/ , everything about SA can be found there.
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houses getting very very expensive in this area
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For my personal view, i think setia alam will be another damansara, high quality life, good enviroment, setia city mall will become second the curve shopping mall, the link house in SA still have appreciate space since link house in damansara raised to 1m something edi...just wait the time coming...
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QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Oct 5 2011, 05:14 PM) For my personal view, i think setia alam will be another damansara, high quality life, good enviroment, setia city mall will become second the curve shopping mall, the link house in SA still have appreciate space since link house in damansara raised to 1m something edi...just wait the time coming... setia alam cannot be another damansara and no need to be. hv faith! shud say another development wil be another setia alam. |
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QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Oct 5 2011, 05:14 PM) For my personal view, i think setia alam will be another damansara, high quality life, good enviroment, setia city mall will become second the curve shopping mall setialam mall's tenants' list does look exciting. opening by mid2012, i think. if no potential, can't have so many tenants gua? ss2 mall, spaceu8 mall, even setia walk - list not as good, right? copied from another forum: QUOTE Anchor - Parkson Home Electircal & Furniture - Harvey Norman - Courts Entertainment - GSC - Wangsa Bowl Supermarket & Specialty Shops - Urban Fresh Marketplace - Daiso Japan F&B - TGI Friday's - Nandos - Subway - Manhattan Fish Market - Tony Roma's - Pacific Coffee - i love yoo! 老油鬼鬼 - Secret Recipe - Boost Juice Bar - SweetChat Café - Teh Tarik Place - New Zealand Natural - Auntie Anne's - Chatime - Krispy Kreme - Papa John’s - Gelato Fruity - Sushi Tei - Ninja Joe - Porridge Time - Belanga Café - Little Taiwan - Starbucks - Ichiban Boshi - Dragon-I - Bentoya - Fruitlicious - Taste Better - Ichiban Boshi Fashion & Sports Wear - PDI Concept Shop - G2000 - Nichii - Kitschen - F.O.S - Dressing Paula - Marry Merry - Bonita - Brands Outlet - Converse - Puma - Bata - Tropicana Life - Primavera Health & Fitness - Fitness First - Fitness Concept - EGOnutritions - Ogawa Digital IT & Home Entertainment, Telecommunication - Machines - Speedy - Maxis - Digi - Celcom - KTS Cellular Optical - Focus Point Pharmacy & Personal Care - Caring Pharmacy - GNC Live Well - Himalaya Beauty Care & Cosmetics & Jewellery - Shins - Yves Rocher - Aster Spring - M.A.C. - Diamond & Platinum - My Diamond - Elianto - Yume Gift - Memory Lane Others - Yamaha - PetsMore.com - Universal Traveler - Bar B Q Plaza This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 5 2011, 06:00 PM |
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Setia alam is a very nice project for investment purpose and own stay.
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The current launch of SP Setia (left less than 30%-Corner Lot all sold out)
Mimosa Type 1 - Double Storey Terrace House Mimosa Type 2 - Double Storey Terrace House Feature :- Standard Lot : 20' x 70' 4+1 Rooms & 4 Bathrooms Built-up : 2,180 sqft Selling Price From: Min RM 688,000 - Max RM 915,000 It is worth it to buy for 20x70 which this price? Any comment? |
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 7 2011, 10:18 AM) The current launch of SP Setia (left less than 30%-Corner Lot all sold out) honestly, it's way overpriced in my opinion. i wanted to buy a unit for my own stay in SA few months back and viewed a few units but it turned out to be quite disappointing. the layout is so so and the finishing is not up to my expectation. with the price tag i expected to have better material used. next i turned my hunt to alam impian (both I&P and TTDI) and i found the quality is way better and come with larger built-up. too many investors/speculators in SA already and to me it's a no no. Mimosa Type 1 - Double Storey Terrace House Mimosa Type 2 - Double Storey Terrace House Feature :- Standard Lot : 20' x 70' 4+1 Rooms & 4 Bathrooms Built-up : 2,180 sqft Selling Price From: Min RM 688,000 - Max RM 915,000 It is worth it to buy for 20x70 which this price? Any comment? |
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Interm of Facilities and Township Development compare with Alam Impian? I think this is 1 of the point of consideration?
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 7 2011, 11:44 AM) Interm of Facilities and Township Development compare with Alam Impian? I think this is 1 of the point of consideration? yes i agree with you. in terms of township planning and development, SA is going through rapid development and consists of various amenities within the vicinity. good thing is you have almost everything there but nowadays the traffic volume is increasing tremendously and getting busier each passing day. i think most area in SA is not gated only guarded. with the increasing number of people in this area and the price tag they are asking without G&G, it really turns me down.alam impian is up and coming. at the moment it's pretty much just residential houses but both TTDI and I&P have their masterplan that include commercial and other amenities. there's also a vast piece of land adjacent to the current development and someone who I know is currently negotiating the price with state gov to buy it over for development. its location is quite strategic where it's smack right in the middle of kesas and federal highway. this area will turn out to be a hot area in the not-too-distance future i foresee. just my 2 cent. This post has been edited by venven81: Oct 7 2011, 11:53 AM |
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 7 2011, 11:21 AM) honestly, it's way overpriced in my opinion. i wanted to buy a unit for my own stay in SA few months back and viewed a few units but it turned out to be quite disappointing. the layout is so so and the finishing is not up to my expectation. with the price tag i expected to have better material used. next i turned my hunt to alam impian (both I&P and TTDI) and i found the quality is way better and come with larger built-up. too many investors/speculators in SA already and to me it's a no no. Go checkout the subsale from Alam Nusantara @ Setia Alam by PKNS. That area can get between 460k to 550k intermediate 20x70. Latest phase Ayuprima subsale 538k to 550k good buy buildup 2000sqft, 2x2 porcelein tiles living, column free car park, open space masterbath. Ecopark bungalow at the Eastside, Anjung sari superlink/bungalow & Mentari Bungalow at Northern Side, Setia City at South side (jogging distance to Setia Mall). Upcoming bungalow at Westside. This Alam Nusantara can be said prime land for terrace house compare to SPSetia one.Don't under estimate PKNS quality at this area & blindly compare with SPSetia brand without seeing it yourself. |
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 5 2011, 05:55 PM) setialam mall's tenants' list does look exciting. opening by mid2012, i think. where is Guardian, Watson, Popeye ... It would be good if Isetan also join this mall...if no potential, can't have so many tenants gua? ss2 mall, spaceu8 mall, even setia walk - list not as good, right? copied from another forum: |
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QUOTE(Mair @ Oct 7 2011, 03:22 PM) Go checkout the subsale from Alam Nusantara @ Setia Alam by PKNS. That area can get between 460k to 550k intermediate 20x70. Latest phase Ayuprima subsale 538k to 550k good buy buildup 2000sqft, 2x2 porcelein tiles living, column free car park, open space masterbath. Ecopark bungalow at the Eastside, Anjung sari superlink/bungalow & Mentari Bungalow at Northern Side, Setia City at South side (jogging distance to Setia Mall). Upcoming bungalow at Westside. This Alam Nusantara can be said prime land for terrace house compare to SPSetia one. PKNS already sold out all units and most of them are sub sales. For sub sales... you need at least 10% of down-payment + Loan and S&P Legal fees (you need around 60k+). Comparing new development from SP Setia only required 5% and everything absorb by developer. This is one of the package that I think new development can provide for easier purchase.Don't under estimate PKNS quality at this area & blindly compare with SPSetia brand without seeing it yourself. |
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Sushi Zanmai, Kim Gary, Italiannes, ... Mana...????
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 7 2011, 11:52 AM) alam impian is up and coming. at the moment it's pretty much just residential houses but both TTDI and I&P have their masterplan that include commercial and other amenities. there's also a vast piece of land adjacent to the current development and someone who I know is currently negotiating the price with state gov to buy it over for development. its location is quite strategic where it's smack right in the middle of kesas and federal highway. this area will turn out to be a hot area in the not-too-distance future i foresee. just my 2 cent. this is a valid point. if a place already has much of the desirables - nat'l/private/int'l schools, shops, a mall, convention center, sohos, even non-halal food n drinks - price won't be cheap since the market will pplace a premium on it. the key is to buy into something before all that comes onstream. if ai will have all that is seen in setialam now, prices there will surely go higher. question is how good are the plans and when they will happen. in setialam case, much of what is seen now happened quite quickly. before that, house prices were quite low as many did not expect much although the plans were there. go 3km further to bdr bkt raja, prices are lower than ai - this also has an explanation, well understood. Added on October 7, 2011, 6:17 pm QUOTE(Yamaha 444 @ Oct 7 2011, 03:31 PM) QUOTE(Yamaha 444 @ Oct 7 2011, 03:34 PM) if you ignore the all that is there and only want what is not there, how to be happy with any mall? This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 7 2011, 06:21 PM |
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Oct 5 2011, 05:22 PM) setia alam cannot be another damansara and no need to be. hv faith! Correct corect, I don't want setia alam like damansara or puchong. I want others like setia alam. shud say another development wil be another setia alam. I think is enough liao, stop those any comercial area. Make it more to residential area. If you see places like PJ area, houses is lot more compare to comercial area. Too much comercial area will make the area jam jam, especially on weekend. I want a less traffic and place to go around my area. To my suprise, those houses prices increase so much but others area too increas that much. |
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 7 2011, 11:18 AM) The current launch of SP Setia (left less than 30%-Corner Lot all sold out) Worth or not, I think these will still be sold out upon launching.. Genuine buyers will still need to deposit 10k bank draft for the ballot and hope for the lucky draw...Mimosa Type 1 - Double Storey Terrace House Mimosa Type 2 - Double Storey Terrace House Feature :- Standard Lot : 20' x 70' 4+1 Rooms & 4 Bathrooms Built-up : 2,180 sqft Selling Price From: Min RM 688,000 - Max RM 915,000 It is worth it to buy for 20x70 which this price? Any comment? |
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 7 2011, 10:18 AM) The current launch of SP Setia (left less than 30%-Corner Lot all sold out) you have a lot of option with that price, to me is just ripoff!Mimosa Type 1 - Double Storey Terrace House Mimosa Type 2 - Double Storey Terrace House Feature :- Standard Lot : 20' x 70' 4+1 Rooms & 4 Bathrooms Built-up : 2,180 sqft Selling Price From: Min RM 688,000 - Max RM 915,000 It is worth it to buy for 20x70 which this price? Any comment? |
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well, all I have to say is those who BBB in SA at the early stages (remember when only EON bank and CIMB was there) did extremely well
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 8 2011, 10:13 AM) please name some options... Want to update my database cos i couldnt find anything less than 600k for similar size, location and township planning...FYI, setia alam is around 30km to mid valley using NKVE... If your considering USJ also, 22x75 are more than 10 years old and are now selling for 580k, you'll need at least 100k just to redo the house to a more comfortable living condition... |
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Oct 9 2011, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 7 2011, 11:52 AM) alam impian is up and coming. at the moment it's pretty much just residential houses but both TTDI and I&P have their masterplan that include commercial and other amenities. there's also a vast piece of land adjacent to the current development and someone who I know is currently negotiating the price with state gov to buy it over for development. its location is quite strategic where it's smack right in the middle of kesas and federal highway. this area will turn out to be a hot area in the not-too-distance future i foresee. just my 2 cent. dun mean to be a "show-down" btw these two townships, but do consider that AI and SA launched almost the same time.....7-8yrs ago...then deputy PM Najis went for official ground breaking in AI.......fast forward 2011....what do you get:- 1. AI is less than 1m above sea level.....on low land...... 2. AI is 50% bumi quote...meaning there is potentially 1/2 buyers are 10% cheaper than your house...(if you are non-bumi), meaning your price is heavily "subsidized" to others... 3. 7-8 yrs down the road...apa pun tiada......in terms of commercial development, common amenities like schools and sporting complexes... 4. paying tolls even if you wanna ta-pou teh tarik....at KK side.... |
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Oct 9 2011, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 9 2011, 10:19 AM) dun mean to be a "show-down" btw these two townships, but do consider that AI and SA launched almost the same time.....7-8yrs ago...then deputy PM Najis went for official ground breaking in AI....... SA starting price of the property is much lower than in AI...I guess that is one of the many reason why SA growth at much faster pace...location (bordering Klang and Shah Alam directly) also helps. Well, I guess the strategy and execution of the develop is much more result oriented compared for I&P. fast forward 2011....what do you get:- 1. AI is less than 1m above sea level.....on low land...... 2. AI is 50% bumi quote...meaning there is potentially 1/2 buyers are 10% cheaper than your house...(if you are non-bumi), meaning your price is heavily "subsidized" to others... 3. 7-8 yrs down the road...apa pun tiada......in terms of commercial development, common amenities like schools and sporting complexes... 4. paying tolls even if you wanna ta-pou teh tarik....at KK side.... AI houses are generally bigger in built up and land area..... Both have tolls, but with the development of the retails, commercial and shopping malls, SA is much more convenient. Besides with Chinese School, international school, some how it hlep to lure more chinese.... AI is more like KK at the early stage ... the fact that it doesnt have lower cost properties like apartment or flat at this point of time, will pretty much having middle class people....the cheapest house also close to 600k now... both offering certain uniqueness and no point to argue too much which one is better on the overall as people would have their own preference.....I like SA beause of the more convenient and better township (as of now) .....I like AI because of the overall concept (green, lake) if they could implement it as such...maybe after it is more developed....the gaps will be very small between both....as both are developed by decent developers... |
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Oct 9 2011, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 9 2011, 09:16 AM) please name some options... Want to update my database cos i couldnt find anything less than 600k for similar size, location and township planning... I really wonder how the makan gaji people can get a big house. FYI, setia alam is around 30km to mid valley using NKVE... If your considering USJ also, 22x75 are more than 10 years old and are now selling for 580k, you'll need at least 100k just to redo the house to a more comfortable living condition... You mean the freehold land rite for the USJ? SA mostly is freehold if i am not mistaken coz people would surely pay more to get it and they have the ability to pay for it rite? This post has been edited by Quantum_thinking: Oct 9 2011, 11:40 AM |
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Oct 9 2011, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(spydermind @ Oct 9 2011, 11:00 AM) both offering certain uniqueness and no point to argue too much which one is better on the overall as people would have their own preference good to discuss and listen to all points. better not be like parliament, one side always win, sometimes w/o debate. at this time, i see alam impian better off compared and contrasted with denai alam. they share some key variables more closely than setiaalam: . both are about 7yrs old . current launches in the same range in terms of size and rm psf . similar buying packages - no dibs, 70-90% loan . both dun hv schools, shops, etc. now, plans are there . ai taps into kota k and shahalam bandar, da taps into subang jaya and shahalam bandar . ai has ample land for future dev; da has huge eltina-lagong in the vicinity . similar demographics for buyers/residents i am quite sure those who bought into one have looked at the other. perhaps they can comment - in da or ai threads, please! This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 9 2011, 01:00 PM |
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Oct 9 2011, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(elawrenceong @ Oct 8 2011, 06:28 PM) Considering the whole township concept and access to NKVE, this is the best township...at least for KL ppl...not selangor may be.. township wise might is well planned, no doubt, but with that location, klang area with a shah alam address, still not justify that price. |
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Oct 9 2011, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 9 2011, 11:40 AM) I really wonder how the makan gaji people can get a big house. yeah, USJ is basically freehold overall except for USJ1 strangly...You mean the freehold land rite for the USJ? SA mostly is freehold if i am not mistaken coz people would surely pay more to get it and they have the ability to pay for it rite? Correct, and i always buy freehold, don't mind paying a slight premium for peace of mind Added on October 9, 2011, 4:26 pm QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 9 2011, 04:19 PM) township wise might is well planned, no doubt, but with that location, klang area with a shah alam address, still not justify that price. well... Like it or not, SA is legally Shah Alam... For cheaper houses, people always have the choice to go for Sime Darby's Bukit Raja just opposite Meru This post has been edited by kenji1903: Oct 9 2011, 04:26 PM |
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Oct 9 2011, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 9 2011, 09:16 AM) please name some options... Want to update my database cos i couldnt find anything less than 600k for similar size, location and township planning... talking about klang , similar location like Bukit tinggi , bukit raja has lot more better deal with bigger layout....especially bukit tinggi , lot of amenities, below 600k, u can get a 2.5 stry 22x75 or DSL 24 x 75 fully renovated. you might want to use your renovation money for the dp, since margin finance might lowerFYI, setia alam is around 30km to mid valley using NKVE... If your considering USJ also, 22x75 are more than 10 years old and are now selling for 580k, you'll need at least 100k just to redo the house to a more comfortable living condition... Btw, SA new start fr 688k, nothing below 600k. http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k_House_ForSale http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k_House_ForSale |
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Oct 9 2011, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 9 2011, 04:19 PM) yeah, USJ is basically freehold overall except for USJ1 strangly... It's cheaper...but it's ranked lower one level compared to SA...why ?Correct, and i always buy freehold, don't mind paying a slight premium for peace of mind Added on October 9, 2011, 4:26 pm well... Like it or not, SA is legally Shah Alam... For cheaper houses, people always have the choice to go for Sime Darby's Bukit Raja just opposite Meru 1) accessibility to complete township of SA 2) accessibility to NKVE -> Damansara, Subang, KL and i don;t see how much cheaper of the Sime Darby compared to SA. |
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Oct 9 2011, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 9 2011, 04:19 PM) yeah, USJ is basically freehold overall except for USJ1 strangly... i only concern well spend money, shah alam add does not make it better anyway.Correct, and i always buy freehold, don't mind paying a slight premium for peace of mind Added on October 9, 2011, 4:26 pm well... Like it or not, SA is legally Shah Alam... For cheaper houses, people always have the choice to go for Sime Darby's Bukit Raja just opposite Meru |
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Oct 9 2011, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 9 2011, 04:19 PM) yeah, USJ is basically freehold overall except for USJ1 strangly... Umm, how much is the premium? 100k? Also, need to check the documents only can know it is freehold or leasehold? Correct, and i always buy freehold, don't mind paying a slight premium for peace of mind Added on October 9, 2011, 4:26 pm well... Like it or not, SA is legally Shah Alam... For cheaper houses, people always have the choice to go for Sime Darby's Bukit Raja just opposite Meru |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 9 2011, 04:19 PM) township wise might is well planned, no doubt, but with that location, klang area with a shah alam address, still not justify that price. then how do you justify AI? also out of no where.....bordering klang, no?Added on October 9, 2011, 10:40 pm QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 9 2011, 05:06 PM) it has some impact overall, pending on what city council you are in...BUT I believe all AI, DA and SA under MbSA...... This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Oct 9 2011, 10:40 PM |
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Oct 10 2011, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 9 2011, 10:37 PM) then how do you justify AI? also out of no where.....bordering klang, no? No matter what council is it.....the fact is KL ppl is widening its radar to buy landed properties....since near KL area houses are not affordable....Rawang, Shah Alam area is the focus next year...tat's why you can see many reputable developers in these area....their intentions are so clear...target is middle class buyers!Added on October 9, 2011, 10:40 pm it has some impact overall, pending on what city council you are in... BUT I believe all AI, DA and SA under MbSA...... |
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Oct 10 2011, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(spydermind @ Oct 9 2011, 11:00 AM) SA starting price of the property is much lower than in AI...I guess that is one of the many reason why SA growth at much faster pace...location (bordering Klang and Shah Alam directly) also helps. Well, I guess the strategy and execution of the develop is much more result oriented compared for I&P. I agreed, I like SA due to the convenient and better township (as of now) but I already choose AI due to the environment and the bigger house. I'm sure AI still will go further. It depend what criteria that you are looking for your future dream house.AI houses are generally bigger in built up and land area..... Both have tolls, but with the development of the retails, commercial and shopping malls, SA is much more convenient. Besides with Chinese School, international school, some how it hlep to lure more chinese.... AI is more like KK at the early stage ... the fact that it doesnt have lower cost properties like apartment or flat at this point of time, will pretty much having middle class people....the cheapest house also close to 600k now... both offering certain uniqueness and no point to argue too much which one is better on the overall as people would have their own preference.....I like SA beause of the more convenient and better township (as of now) .....I like AI because of the overall concept (green, lake) if they could implement it as such...maybe after it is more developed....the gaps will be very small between both....as both are developed by decent developers... |
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Oct 10 2011, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 9 2011, 10:37 PM) then how do you justify AI? also out of no where.....bordering klang, no? AI definitely justify the price, you pay premium , you get premium product, good environment and much more bigger layout, sometimes is not only the location, is does it worth the money you pay? atleast i think AI stand out better than SA.Added on October 9, 2011, 10:40 pm it has some impact overall, pending on what city council you are in... BUT I believe all AI, DA and SA under MbSA...... |
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Oct 10 2011, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 10 2011, 10:21 AM) AI definitely justify the price, you pay premium , you get premium product, good environment and much more bigger layout, sometimes is not only the location, is does it worth the money you pay? atleast i think AI stand out better than SA. i do agree with you that comparing house vs house, AI houses seems to be better quality and larger.....(based strictly on photos).but outside your gate.....it's a big NO NO for me......from A to Z...... so it's down to the prospect of you are buying a house or buying a home.....IMO.... no right or wrong answer...just based on individual..... for me, SA (or to be specified, Ecopark) worths every single cent that I paid...in fact, more like I paid 1 cent, I got 2 cent back! |
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Oct 10 2011, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 10 2011, 11:45 AM) i do agree with you that comparing house vs house, AI houses seems to be better quality and larger.....(based strictly on photos). i love what ecopark has to offer but not SA in particular. few years back the 1st phase at ecopark was selling at only RM600k++ but now the semi-d starts from how much? i can't even follow the latest pricing coz it's selling too good! but outside your gate.....it's a big NO NO for me......from A to Z...... so it's down to the prospect of you are buying a house or buying a home.....IMO.... no right or wrong answer...just based on individual..... for me, SA (or to be specified, Ecopark) worths every single cent that I paid...in fact, more like I paid 1 cent, I got 2 cent back! |
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Oct 10 2011, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 10 2011, 12:25 PM) i love what ecopark has to offer but not SA in particular. few years back the 1st phase at ecopark was selling at only RM600k++ but now the semi-d starts from how much? i can't even follow the latest pricing coz it's selling too good! comparing Ecopark and AI is like adult vs boy......not like for like comparison now but the latter got more legs to run in longer term. |
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Oct 10 2011, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 10 2011, 11:45 AM) i do agree with you that comparing house vs house, AI houses seems to be better quality and larger.....(based strictly on photos). It is good you find Ecopark suit your need and offer you a home, the important part is you satisfy for what you spend but outside your gate.....it's a big NO NO for me......from A to Z...... so it's down to the prospect of you are buying a house or buying a home.....IMO.... no right or wrong answer...just based on individual..... for me, SA (or to be specified, Ecopark) worths every single cent that I paid...in fact, more like I paid 1 cent, I got 2 cent back! |
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Oct 10 2011, 03:45 PM
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anyone stay in SA that need to travel to KL Sentral to work daily?
May I know the jam level in NKVE and also how much of time it takes to reach? |
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Oct 10 2011, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(keane04 @ Oct 10 2011, 03:45 PM) anyone stay in SA that need to travel to KL Sentral to work daily? im using NKVE to commute daily from Klang to Damansara and i can tell you that i hate driving that route every single day for the last 5 years and the traffic is getting worse each day when more people are moving to SA! May I know the jam level in NKVE and also how much of time it takes to reach? |
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Oct 10 2011, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 10 2011, 03:49 PM) im using NKVE to commute daily from Klang to Damansara and i can tell you that i hate driving that route every single day for the last 5 years and the traffic is getting worse each day when more people are moving to SA! mind to share how much long it takes u to reach damansara? which part of damansara btw.and the jam start from wher? all the way from klang? if only concern the exit from SA, how about that? thanks |
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Oct 10 2011, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(keane04 @ Oct 10 2011, 03:55 PM) mind to share how much long it takes u to reach damansara? which part of damansara btw. I been pass by year ago 2010 and most jam area is near tol exit such as Subang Toll, Damansara and Sungai buloh. I am not sure about 2011 now. But since SA is getting more people eventually will cause more traffic and the jam start from wher? all the way from klang? if only concern the exit from SA, how about that? thanks |
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Oct 10 2011, 04:08 PM
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nkve is surely getting bad.
been driving along kesas a fair bit lately - also getting bad. federal highway, needless to say. traffic congestion along major highways is a feature everywhere, no escape unless yoiu don't use them. only solution is use them at non-peak hours or find a job that stays clear of them! |
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Oct 10 2011, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(keane04 @ Oct 10 2011, 03:55 PM) mind to share how much long it takes u to reach damansara? which part of damansara btw. typically the jam will start about 1km (or less) before shah alam/bkt jelutong exit for 2-3km (now there's a contra lane at this point). then slow moving toward damansara exit. im not sure how's the traffic from damansara to jln duta toll though. my office is located at damansara heights and it takes forever from damansara toll to my office! and the jam start from wher? all the way from klang? if only concern the exit from SA, how about that? thanks then after work it's a nightmare travelling back using NKVE to Klang/SA. the jam is like great wall! very d@rn pissed with the traffic in KV! but no choice still have to stay here and work here. |
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well, thanks.
i guess during rush hour, really cant run away from traffic jam. just gotta hope it is still better than other township like cheras area or puchong area. but it seems, they are the same and with SA even more mileage to cover. hope it's bearable for me though. perhaps i gotta find a morning to try. Added on October 10, 2011, 4:30 pm QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 10 2011, 04:08 PM) nkve is surely getting bad. well, kesas will need to turn to mex or mrr2. even kesas not jam, i believe mex and mrr2 sure will. but the point is, as long as going to KL city, everywhere also jam.been driving along kesas a fair bit lately - also getting bad. federal highway, needless to say. traffic congestion along major highways is a feature everywhere, no escape unless yoiu don't use them. only solution is use them at non-peak hours or find a job that stays clear of them! let says from puchong, if go to berjaya times square area, coming out from smart and mex quite ok but if go to klcc.....well, need to add many minutes of driving into it. This post has been edited by keane04: Oct 10 2011, 04:30 PM |
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Oct 10 2011, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 10 2011, 04:15 PM) typically the jam will start about 1km (or less) before shah alam/bkt jelutong exit for 2-3km (now there's a contra lane at this point). then slow moving toward damansara exit. im not sure how's the traffic from damansara to jln duta toll though. my office is located at damansara heights and it takes forever from damansara toll to my office! I think you cant avoid... unless you stay Damansara which you will still get jam near the Eastin hotel from Seksyen 17.then after work it's a nightmare travelling back using NKVE to Klang/SA. the jam is like great wall! very d@rn pissed with the traffic in KV! but no choice still have to stay here and work here. QUOTE(keane04 @ Oct 10 2011, 04:25 PM) well, thanks. True... We dont have good public transportation, everyone need car = JAMi guess during rush hour, really cant run away from traffic jam. just gotta hope it is still better than other township like cheras area or puchong area. but it seems, they are the same and with SA even more mileage to cover. hope it's bearable for me though. perhaps i gotta find a morning to try. Added on October 10, 2011, 4:30 pm well, kesas will need to turn to mex or mrr2. even kesas not jam, i believe mex and mrr2 sure will. but the point is, as long as going to KL city, everywhere also jam. let says from puchong, if go to berjaya times square area, coming out from smart and mex quite ok but if go to klcc.....well, need to add many minutes of driving into it. |
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 10 2011, 04:33 PM) I think you cant avoid... unless you stay Damansara which you will still get jam near the Eastin hotel from Seksyen 17. That's why the area which near to lrt/mrt station (in the "near" future) demands premium price especially for the new properties. easily 600k and above but not guarantee the accessibility still. everyone just hedge that and pray hard...True... We dont have good public transportation, everyone need car = JAM |
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Oct 10 2011, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 10 2011, 04:08 PM) nkve is surely getting bad. +100.been driving along kesas a fair bit lately - also getting bad. federal highway, needless to say. traffic congestion along major highways is a feature everywhere, no escape unless yoiu don't use them. only solution is use them at non-peak hours or find a job that stays clear of them! I really hate waste time on the road. Cannot sleep, cannot do anything except sitting if my phone battery went dead. |
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Oct 11 2011, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 10 2011, 10:21 AM) AI definitely justify the price, you pay premium , you get premium product, good environment and much more bigger layout, sometimes is not only the location, is does it worth the money you pay? atleast i think AI stand out better than SA. well... Agree with the overall package but From investment point of view, locations stays top priority... Also cap appreciation, that's just me maybe but starting mid last year, most of the SA DSL buyers i believe are speculators, my batch are still own stay... |
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Oct 11 2011, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 11 2011, 08:30 AM) well... Agree with the overall package but From investment point of view, locations stays top priority... Also cap appreciation, that's just me maybe Appreciation wise is pretty good i would said, if you are early batch buyer, the money you pay still worth it, congrates! my relative brought an early phase 20x70 there at only 245k for own stay. that is justify! but with new launch, same layout, slightly bigger built up go for 688k? that's daylight robbery.... but starting mid last year, most of the SA DSL buyers i believe are speculators, my batch are still own stay... |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 11 2011, 10:57 AM) Appreciation wise is pretty good i would said, if you are early batch buyer, the money you pay still worth it, congrates! my relative brought an early phase 20x70 there at only 245k for own stay. that is justify! but with new launch, same layout, slightly bigger built up go for 688k? that's daylight robbery.... Yeah, my sista bought a unit around 2009 which cost less than RM300k with same build up/less 100sf, but now the price for Mimosa is RM688k and some more the numbering for also cost additional cost like unit no contain 5 or 8 will adding extra RM5k. |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 11 2011, 10:57 AM) Appreciation wise is pretty good i would said, if you are early batch buyer, the money you pay still worth it, congrates! my relative brought an early phase 20x70 there at only 245k for own stay. that is justify! but with new launch, same layout, slightly bigger built up go for 688k? that's daylight robbery.... this i can still accept... the best one is SP is pushing their 26x82 Duta Villas out starting at 1.6Mil |
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 11 2011, 11:28 AM) this i can still accept... the best one is SP is pushing their 26x82 Duta Villas out starting at 1.6Mil But the entire Duta Villa area is exclusive, guarded. It is just like Ecopark, situated beside Setia alam but the pricing is totally different. However, I do agree that their pricing is really shocking for a terrace unit. |
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 11 2011, 11:23 AM) Yeah, my sista bought a unit around 2009 which cost less than RM300k with same build up/less 100sf, but now the price for Mimosa is RM688k and some more the numbering for also cost additional cost like unit no contain 5 or 8 will adding extra RM5k. Number 8 I understand, but why number 5 also? |
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 10 2011, 10:13 PM) +100. I think I can suggest you a solution. Get a car charger for your mobile phone I really hate waste time on the road. Cannot sleep, cannot do anything except sitting if my phone battery went dead. Added on October 11, 2011, 2:20 pmBy the way, there is a cheaper alternative. Can choose the DSL developed by PKNS. Sub sales less than 500k. of coz cant compare to sp setia's design and built up. there is still a huge piece of land there.....further in from the setia mall and ecopark This post has been edited by keane04: Oct 11 2011, 02:20 PM |
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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Oct 11 2011, 02:11 PM) But the entire Duta Villa area is exclusive, guarded. It is just like Ecopark, situated beside Setia alam but the pricing is totally different. However, I do agree that their pricing is really shocking for a terrace unit. i'd go straight for ecopark... linkhouse is a linkhouse no matter how exclusive it can be, unless it's damansara heights, or something similar |
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 10 2011, 12:25 PM) i love what ecopark has to offer but not SA in particular. few years back the 1st phase at ecopark was selling at only RM600k++ but now the semi-d starts from how much? i can't even follow the latest pricing coz it's selling too good! 1st phase started from 599k for SMDs.....latest cheapest SMDs.....2.1mil.... subsale market...asking 1.7mil for 1.5s SMDs.....2s SMDs, pushing 2mil.... Added on October 11, 2011, 5:58 pm QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 10 2011, 03:06 PM) It is good you find Ecopark suit your need and offer you a home, the important part is you satisfy for what you spend yeah I know...you only look at house, not a homely environment...that's why you perceived AI is good buy.....why buy so far away? Putra Heights 500k can't get meh? This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Oct 11 2011, 05:58 PM |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 11 2011, 05:55 PM) yeah I know...you only look at house, not a homely environment...that's why you perceived AI is good buy..... bro, any examples of spacious DSL(>2800sf) in PH at below $250psf?why buy so far away? Putra Heights 500k can't get meh? AI defo has more legs than PH and SA in terms of cap gain... |
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 11 2011, 06:14 PM) bro, any examples of spacious DSL(>2800sf) in PH at below $250psf? my take is at current launch prices, cap appr (or depr AI defo has more legs than PH and SA in terms of cap gain... i won't say the same for bandar botanic or bukit tinggi, though. or ph. then you start to think about desa coalfields and rawang which are now hot-hottie, because of price, I guess. anyway, let's hope all that's well ends well! This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 11 2011, 07:51 PM |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 11 2011, 05:55 PM) 1st phase started from 599k for SMDs..... R u sure u r at the same channel? We r talking about klang, how u put putra height in d picture? Wanna add puchong in?? They are hell lot more to compare.latest cheapest SMDs.....2.1mil.... subsale market...asking 1.7mil for 1.5s SMDs.....2s SMDs, pushing 2mil.... Added on October 11, 2011, 5:58 pm yeah I know...you only look at house, not a homely environment...that's why you perceived AI is good buy..... why buy so far away? Putra Heights 500k can't get meh? Btw, there are long list of development offer 'homely environment'... This post has been edited by Apscen: Oct 11 2011, 09:35 PM |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 11 2011, 09:24 PM) R u sure u r at the same channel? We r talking about klang, how u put putra height in d picture? Wanna add puchong in?? They are hell lot more to compare. Aiks...if wanna find cheaper house than SA and compare its price with SA....those who has complaint on SA price...I suggest you may found spacious houses at Kajang..? Btw, there are long list of development offer 'homely environment'... |
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QUOTE(elawrenceong @ Oct 12 2011, 02:16 PM) Aiks...if wanna find cheaper house than SA and compare its price with SA....those who has complaint on SA price...I suggest you may found spacious houses at Kajang..? I think you mean KLANG. Someone already added in Putra Heights to compare, dun think u will add kajang... hahahahaThis post has been edited by keane04: Oct 12 2011, 02:29 PM |
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QUOTE(elawrenceong @ Oct 12 2011, 02:16 PM) Aiks...if wanna find cheaper house than SA and compare its price with SA....those who has complaint on SA price...I suggest you may found spacious houses at Kajang..? you miss the point of the whole discussion....we r talking about 'similar development' at 'similar area'... what's the point compare SA to SA? wat to compare?? .....how many windows? colour of roof???.....or compare how much $$ SPS screww new buyer?Btw, i only care about hard earn money,i dun care about your money...did i ask you not to buy? i only label it overprice and not justify, that's my point |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 12 2011, 03:18 PM) you miss the point of the whole discussion....we r talking about 'similar development' at 'similar area'... what's the point compare SA to SA? wat to compare?? .....how many windows? colour of roof???.....or compare how much $$ SPS screww new buyer? I think better you write in & complain directly to SPSetia management. No use complaining here lol..Btw, i only care about hard earn money,i dun care about your money...did i ask you not to buy? i only label it overprice and not justify, that's my point I stayed in Bdr Bkt Raja. However, i like Setia Alam more than Alam Impian due to so many ammenities eg sec & pri school, Tenby international school, badminton academy, KFC, McD, Domino pizza, Pizza hut, secret recipe, starbucks, burger king, sushi, nasi arab, Sup utara, ayam penyek, OverTime, mamak, Tesco, Giant, Klang Sentral bus station, petronas, shell, mobil, Nissan, Honda coming, CIMB, HLeong, AM bank, 7E, clinics, speedmart99, hardware, furniture, pets, central park which everday got activites jogging, basketball, exercising, upcoming Setia mall consruction nearly complete with coming GSC, bowling, parkson, upcoming central lake park in front of Setia Mall & so much more that I couldn't write here.. Maybe because Setia Alam + Setia Ecopark+ Klang Sentral + Bdr Bkt Raja + Aman Perdana + Meru making so many ammenities here. No toll require to cross border here to share the ammenities.. In Alam Impian only can see houses & lake with not so much activities going around, like ghost town lol. However, i maybe will like AI in 7 years time (after many ammenities available including hypermarket) & being the reason my office is just 5 mins driving from it (AI).. This is my personal opinion & no offence please.. -peace- |
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QUOTE(Mair @ Oct 12 2011, 04:13 PM) I think better you write in & complain directly to SPSetia management. No use complaining here lol.. i agree with you. SA has a lot more to offer than AI, regardless which angle u look at it , live learn work play ...I stayed in Bdr Bkt Raja. However, i like Setia Alam more than Alam Impian due to so many ammenities eg sec & pri school, Tenby international school, badminton academy, KFC, McD, Domino pizza, Pizza hut, secret recipe, starbucks, burger king, sushi, nasi arab, Sup utara, ayam penyek, OverTime, mamak, Tesco, Giant, Klang Sentral bus station, petronas, shell, mobil, Nissan, Honda coming, CIMB, HLeong, AM bank, 7E, clinics, speedmart99, hardware, furniture, pets, central park which everday got activites jogging, basketball, exercising, upcoming Setia mall consruction nearly complete with coming GSC, bowling, parkson, upcoming central lake park in front of Setia Mall & so much more that I couldn't write here.. Maybe because Setia Alam + Setia Ecopark+ Klang Sentral + Bdr Bkt Raja + Aman Perdana + Meru making so many ammenities here. No toll require to cross border here to share the ammenities.. In Alam Impian only can see houses & lake with not so much activities going around, like ghost town lol. However, i maybe will like AI in 7 years time (after many ammenities available including hypermarket) & being the reason my office is just 5 mins driving from it (AI).. This is my personal opinion & no offence please.. -peace- IMO, it is not comparable, SA vs AI. SP Setia is excellent in developing township, and they have >4000 acres to develop vs 1200 acres for I&P to develop only for AI ... so it is difficult for AI to emulate the success of SA .. in fact, for any developer, it is difficult to develop a good and sustainable township unless they have >2000 acres of land .... This post has been edited by supersp: Oct 12 2011, 04:29 PM |
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It is all depend, if you want to buy it for own stay and wants everything to be ready and willing to pay. So SA could be your choice.
For investment purpose, AI could be your choice. Just like APPLE share, it is famous now but you dont buy their stock for investment purpose coz it is quite high now. You need to find next APPLE to be share. So I think AI got a potential for high return. AI also for those with lower budget but wants bigger house and also can bear with current enviroment ( Without much amenities) for few years. |
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QUOTE(Mair @ Oct 12 2011, 04:13 PM) I think better you write in & complain directly to SPSetia management. No use complaining here lol.. Well, no worry no offence, good point you have there, atleast SA offer all the daily needs, that's important for a place to call home, else how can they sold out all their previous unit? i am not complaining, i am just expressing my thought, like u said, personal opinion.I stayed in Bdr Bkt Raja. However, i like Setia Alam more than Alam Impian due to so many ammenities eg sec & pri school, Tenby international school, badminton academy, KFC, McD, Domino pizza, Pizza hut, secret recipe, starbucks, burger king, sushi, nasi arab, Sup utara, ayam penyek, OverTime, mamak, Tesco, Giant, Klang Sentral bus station, petronas, shell, mobil, Nissan, Honda coming, CIMB, HLeong, AM bank, 7E, clinics, speedmart99, hardware, furniture, pets, central park which everday got activites jogging, basketball, exercising, upcoming Setia mall consruction nearly complete with coming GSC, bowling, parkson, upcoming central lake park in front of Setia Mall & so much more that I couldn't write here.. Maybe because Setia Alam + Setia Ecopark+ Klang Sentral + Bdr Bkt Raja + Aman Perdana + Meru making so many ammenities here. No toll require to cross border here to share the ammenities.. In Alam Impian only can see houses & lake with not so much activities going around, like ghost town lol. However, i maybe will like AI in 7 years time (after many ammenities available including hypermarket) & being the reason my office is just 5 mins driving from it (AI).. This is my personal opinion & no offence please.. -peace- maybe i am too stingy to spend a fortune, 3k+ installment for a small home, i m jz typical chinaman, i make sure all my spend is 'tai kin kap tai sek' Added on October 12, 2011, 5:43 pm QUOTE(nkhong @ Oct 12 2011, 04:29 PM) It is all depend, if you want to buy it for own stay and wants everything to be ready and willing to pay. So SA could be your choice. good point bro... For investment purpose, AI could be your choice. Just like APPLE share, it is famous now but you dont buy their stock for investment purpose coz it is quite high now. You need to find next APPLE to be share. So I think AI got a potential for high return. AI also for those with lower budget but wants bigger house and also can bear with current enviroment ( Without much amenities) for few years. This post has been edited by Apscen: Oct 12 2011, 05:43 PM |
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Oct 12 2011, 04:29 PM) It is all depend, if you want to buy it for own stay and wants everything to be ready and willing to pay. So SA could be your choice. Development in Setia Alam not only by SPSetia.For investment purpose, AI could be your choice. Just like APPLE share, it is famous now but you dont buy their stock for investment purpose coz it is quite high now. You need to find next APPLE to be share. So I think AI got a potential for high return. AI also for those with lower budget but wants bigger house and also can bear with current enviroment ( Without much amenities) for few years. There are many other developments by others which undergoing now. 1) Launches by PKNS is still reasonable. Watchout for their bigger plot launch > 22x75 next year onwards north of setia mall.. 2) Mentari prop & PKNS will launch 3sty semi-D from 2mil++ & 3sty bungalow from 3 mil++ complete with swimming pool. Location next to EcoPark. 3) Tanjong wahyu now launching 4 sty shoplot from 1.788 million. Location behind Anjung Sari. 4) Sunsuria commercial. Phase 1 Sunsuria 7th avenue luxurious semi-D shoplot will be completed next year. 5) Sime will launch 2sty behind Setia alam pri & sec school next year. 6) Honda service centre under con & will be complete next year. 7) SPSetia HQ already start construction consisting 8 sty & 4 sty building skybridge to Setia Mall. 8) Titijaya launching shoplot Galleria behind Giant Klang Sentral. 9) There is 1 building now undercon between Giant & esso mobil/ McD. Dun know what is this. Anybody have an idea? The edge reported earlier I&P also coming in these area near Ecopark for some development next year.. The edge also reported earlier 1 more developer coming in to develop land near klang sentral. Can't remember who is it forgot already liao.. This post has been edited by Mair: Oct 12 2011, 06:35 PM |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 12 2011, 05:40 PM) maybe i am too stingy to spend a fortune, 3k+ installment for a small home, i m jz typical chinaman, i make sure all my spend is 'tai kin kap tai sek' come think of it, might not be a bad idea if you can start a 'tai kin kap tai sek' thread, should be a very active one! |
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QUOTE(Mair @ Oct 12 2011, 06:30 PM) Development in Setia Alam not only by SPSetia. All > 1 Millions cannot afford la. Any indicative price for 22x75?? If below 500k for intermediate unit then still reasonable la ...There are many other developments by others which undergoing now. 1) Launches by PKNS is still reasonable. Watchout for their bigger plot launch > 22x75 next year onwards north of setia mall.. 2) Mentari prop & PKNS will launch 3sty semi-D from 2mil++ & 3sty bungalow from 3 mil++ complete with swimming pool. Location next to EcoPark. 3) Tanjong wahyu now launching 4 sty shoplot from 1.788 million. Location behind Anjung Sari. 4) Sunsuria commercial. Phase 1 Sunsuria 7th avenue luxurious semi-D shoplot will be completed next year. 5) Sime will launch 2sty behind Setia alam pri & sec school next year. 6) Honda service centre under con & will be complete next year. 7) SPSetia HQ already start construction consisting 8 sty & 4 sty building skybridge to Setia Mall. 8) Titijaya launching shoplot Galleria behind Giant Klang Sentral. 9) There is 1 building now undercon between Giant & esso mobil/ McD. Dun know what is this. Anybody have an idea? The edge reported earlier I&P also coming in these area near Ecopark for some development next year.. The edge also reported earlier 1 more developer coming in to develop land near klang sentral. Can't remember who is it forgot already liao.. Added on October 12, 2011, 8:31 pm QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 12 2011, 05:40 PM) Well, no worry no offence, good point you have there, atleast SA offer all the daily needs, that's important for a place to call home, else how can they sold out all their previous unit? i am not complaining, i am just expressing my thought, like u said, personal opinion. I am also 'tai kin kap tai sek' person ...... not much money. has to spend it wisely ... maybe i am too stingy to spend a fortune, 3k+ installment for a small home, i m jz typical chinaman, i make sure all my spend is 'tai kin kap tai sek' This post has been edited by nkhong: Oct 12 2011, 08:31 PM |
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anyone has any idea if there any mosque in setia alam? if not, has it already has land reserved for it?
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QUOTE(keane04 @ Oct 12 2011, 08:45 PM) anyone has any idea if there any mosque in setia alam? if not, has it already has land reserved for it? Until to date, no mosque in Setia Alam.Only Surau available. Friday prayer currently done at Surau. Mosque reserved land beside Tesco. This post has been edited by Mair: Oct 12 2011, 09:28 PM |
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QUOTE(Mair @ Oct 12 2011, 09:23 PM) Until to date, no mosque in Setia Alam. since there is a piece of land reserved for it, i guess there it is.Only Surau available. Friday prayer currently done at Surau. Mosque reserved land beside Tesco. Added on October 12, 2011, 9:48 pm QUOTE(Mair @ Oct 12 2011, 09:16 PM) follow the market, the next time u ask, probably they will tell you 700k++This post has been edited by keane04: Oct 12 2011, 09:48 PM |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 12 2011, 03:18 PM) Btw, i only care about hard earn money,i dun care about your money...did i ask you not to buy? i only label it overprice and not justify, that's my point then I really "lost" on your intention.you are in SA thread trying to promote AI? why? I thought there is a dedicated AI thread? To me AI is a write off from day1...... I rather buy Kajang than AI.... |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 12 2011, 10:54 PM) then I really "lost" on your intention. Hahaha.....what's my intention?...hmm, if i tell you if SA launch 24x85 @ 688k, i will queue in the sales office with my favourite pillow , toothpaste, 3 in 1 milo 3 days before soft launch, ,,,,now u tell me what is my intention?...hehe, hope i dun confuse u more.... you are in SA thread trying to promote AI? why? I thought there is a dedicated AI thread? To me AI is a write off from day1...... I rather buy Kajang than AI.... 20x70@688k> 24x85@688k> Btw, u r the one ask me justify AI, there go my comment about AI, now u ask me back ?? check back ur post |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 12 2011, 10:54 PM) then I really "lost" on your intention. Is not about promote, is just discussion, why so serious you are in SA thread trying to promote AI? why? I thought there is a dedicated AI thread? To me AI is a write off from day1...... I rather buy Kajang than AI.... QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 13 2011, 09:43 AM) Hahaha.....what's my intention?...hmm, if i tell you if SA launch 24x85 @ 688k, i will queue in the sales office with my favourite pillow , toothpaste, 3 in 1 milo 3 days before soft launch, ,,,,now u tell me what is my intention?...hehe, hope i dun confuse u more.... I will do the same if SA launch this 24x85 20x70@688k> 24x85@688k> Btw, u r the one ask me justify AI, there go my comment about AI, now u ask me back ?? check back ur post |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 13 2011, 09:43 AM) Hahaha.....what's my intention?...hmm, if i tell you if SA launch 24x85 @ 688k, i will queue in the sales office with my favourite pillow , toothpaste, 3 in 1 milo 3 days before soft launch, ,,,,now u tell me what is my intention?...hehe, hope i dun confuse u more.... 26x80@800k+ USJ heights 2 years back 20x70@688k> 24x85@688k> Btw, u r the one ask me justify AI, there go my comment about AI, now u ask me back ?? check back ur post i'm not greedy, i'll queue even if they are selling 22x75@688k... This post has been edited by kenji1903: Oct 13 2011, 11:12 AM |
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 13 2011, 11:10 AM) i think there won't be new house launch for some time. southern part almost fully done, northern will be more like a brand new area. focus probably more on commercial for next 2 yrs - the mall, sohos, health research institute, auto center, maybe hotel-convention center. probably a good thing for existing house owners - settle in before it gets too crowded! |
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 13 2011, 11:44 AM) I am thinking the same, looking for opportunity and better deal.QUOTE(nkhong @ Oct 13 2011, 11:59 AM) I been to Ayu Puri... the finishing and workmanship doesnt seem solidQUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 13 2011, 12:15 PM) due to developer or workmanship? location is similar |
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 13 2011, 11:10 AM) 26x80@800k+ USJ heights 2 years back No need to q bro, 688k for 22x75 is very much possible in SA now, from subsale... Latest transaction for new Xylia/oxandra (vp 2-3 months ago) was about 650k...i'm not greedy, i'll queue even if they are selling 22x75@688k... Added on October 13, 2011, 1:08 pm QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 13 2011, 11:06 AM) I will do the same if SA launch this 24x85 Also, no need to q, current subsale 24x80, G&G with DMC, ind title, close to 3k sf, is asking 850k subsale b4 nego ... Vs AI Pentas 2, this is a better buy considering this is proper G&G With similar bu and with less than 100k diff from Pentas 2This post has been edited by supersp: Oct 13 2011, 01:08 PM |
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QUOTE(supersp @ Oct 13 2011, 01:00 PM) No need to q bro, 688k for 22x75 is very much possible in SA now, from subsale... Latest transaction for new Xylia/oxandra (vp 2-3 months ago) was about 650k... whats the price in terms of psf? land size? facing? material specs? with some of these info then we can compare properly.Added on October 13, 2011, 1:08 pm Also, no need to q, current subsale 24x80, G&G with DMC, ind title, close to 3k sf, is asking 850k subsale b4 nego ... Vs AI Pentas 2, this is a better buy considering this is proper G&G With similar bu and with less than 100k diff from Pentas 2 |
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Oct 13 2011, 01:40 PM) whats the price in terms of psf? land size? facing? material specs? with some of these info then we can compare properly. taken from Setia Alam Residents Assoc (forum.setiaalam.net)![]() ![]() ![]() actual product (almost done), from SP Setia website : specs wise, the usual stuffs, 2x2 porcelain tiles, clay bricks etc etc ... facing south or noth only ... do your own comparison, btw, i am not vested but i am a resident of setia alam since 2010 ... love every single bits of this luvly township, if u wan a place where u call "home" , this is the place to be , of cos with a slight premium if u buy now (premium likely to become huge few years later when mall is up, setia city is up etc etc) ... This post has been edited by supersp: Oct 13 2011, 02:07 PM |
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on first glance, your 24x80 is 2741sf, and asking for 850k you mention?
no right or wrong as you are buying for own stay. cheers |
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Oct 13 2011, 02:44 PM) on first glance, your 24x80 is 2741sf, and asking for 850k you mention? not mine ... no right or wrong as you are buying for own stay. cheers for own stay, do consider this vs other new development ... esp it is G&G and still affordable for ppl considering <1M range .... one hint : the original price was from 588k, so if any buyers interested, nego harder, i think low 800k is possible |
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QUOTE(supersp @ Oct 13 2011, 01:00 PM) No need to q bro, 688k for 22x75 is very much possible in SA now, from subsale... Latest transaction for new Xylia/oxandra (vp 2-3 months ago) was about 650k... Added on October 13, 2011, 1:08 pm Also, no need to q, current subsale 24x80, G&G with DMC, ind title, close to 3k sf, is asking 850k subsale b4 nego ... Vs AI Pentas 2, this is a better buy considering this is proper G&G With similar bu and with less than 100k diff from Pentas 2 if wanna goreng, subsale tak pakai la... anyway, for residents and future residents, message form setia city mall tweeter: QUOTE setiacitymallSetia City Mall@@setiaalam_local Doors will open in Mid 2012. We want to make sure everything is just right before we welcome our first guests.12 Oct |
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from the pic, the real built up for this 24'x80' DSL is 47.5'x24'.
So gross BU is 2714sf and nett BU is ard 2500sf..... say 800k subsale price and 2500sf nett BU, price is $320psf.....not meeting my investment criteria This post has been edited by jet2020: Oct 13 2011, 07:56 PM |
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 13 2011, 07:15 PM) from the pic, the real built up for this 24'x80' DSL is 47.5'x24'. Subsales u sendiri need to top up for ur SPA legal fees, disbursement, evaluation and Stamp Duty So gross BU is 2714sf and nett BU is ard 2500sf..... say 800k subsale price and 2500sf nett BU, price is $320psf.....not meeting my investment criteria |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 13 2011, 07:15 PM) from the pic, the real built up for this 24'x80' DSL is 47.5'x24'. Hi bro,So gross BU is 2714sf and nett BU is ard 2500sf..... say 800k subsale price and 2500sf nett BU, price is $320psf.....not meeting my investment criteria What is gross vs net build up? How to get the figure? 47.5 x 24 = 1140 x 2 floor = 2280 .... |
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Oct 13 2011, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Oct 13 2011, 09:32 PM) ground floor = 47.5'x 24'= 1140sffirst floor = 57.5'x 24' = 1380sf total nett bu is around 2500sf.....my best guestimate and i stand to be corrected the 2714sf gross bu could have included sheltered car porch area |
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Oct 13 2011, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 13 2011, 09:43 AM) Hahaha.....what's my intention?...hmm, if i tell you if SA launch 24x85 @ 688k, i will queue in the sales office with my favourite pillow , toothpaste, 3 in 1 milo 3 days before soft launch, ,,,,now u tell me what is my intention?...hehe, hope i dun confuse u more.... again...this part i dun really understand.....20x70@688k> 24x85@688k> Btw, u r the one ask me justify AI, there go my comment about AI, now u ask me back ?? check back ur post just because AI is offering bigger land at same high price with other development, then its becoming a desireable place to stay lioa? there are reasons why SA can demand this price at smaller plot..... but you choose to ignore these facts...but keep on selling AI....just because it offers a bigger house? BTW, I am not here to sell SA.....i also couldn't care less if ppl wanna buy SA, DA or AI......i know my budget, and I know my expectation... |
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Oct 13 2011, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 13 2011, 11:24 PM) again...this part i dun really understand..... Really good point.just because AI is offering bigger land at same high price with other development, then its becoming a desireable place to stay lioa? there are reasons why SA can demand this price at smaller plot..... but you choose to ignore these facts...but keep on selling AI....just because it offers a bigger house? BTW, I am not here to sell SA.....i also couldn't care less if ppl wanna buy SA, DA or AI......i know my budget, and I know my expectation... Perhaps my "bungalow" at my kampung can sell 700k too. Coz sure bigger than 25x85 |
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Oct 14 2011, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 13 2011, 11:12 PM) ground floor = 47.5'x 24'= 1140sf Your eyes si pek keng first floor = 57.5'x 24' = 1380sf total nett bu is around 2500sf.....my best guestimate and i stand to be corrected the 2714sf gross bu could have included sheltered car porch area |
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Oct 14 2011, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Oct 14 2011, 12:33 AM) i have a fren who is more keng chow than me....using a ruler to measure every corner of a house during VP to ensure total bu is exactly as per SnP Added on October 14, 2011, 1:05 am QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 13 2011, 11:24 PM) again...this part i dun really understand..... bro, i am vested in AI and SA. Allow me to give my 2 kupang here.just because AI is offering bigger land at same high price with other development, then its becoming a desireable place to stay lioa? there are reasons why SA can demand this price at smaller plot..... but you choose to ignore these facts...but keep on selling AI....just because it offers a bigger house? BTW, I am not here to sell SA.....i also couldn't care less if ppl wanna buy SA, DA or AI......i know my budget, and I know my expectation... undoubtedly SA has good amenities and value will be further strengthened when SCM is operational next year..... i see AI is following the footsteps of SA...perhaps due to the sharing of same father (PNB). AI investors generally looking at the future unlocked value of AI and not today...just like what SA buyers did few yrs ago IMO, amenities does not necessarily next to the house. if amenities are reachable within 5km and accessible w/o many traffic lights, it's considered good. Based on this, AI does meet this criteria due to its adjacent to Kota Kemuning and Tmn Sri Muda townships within 5km.....most amenities available in SA also the same in KK and easily accessible by AI residents. There also strong likelihood that an international school will set up in AI due to its large landbank. This post has been edited by jet2020: Oct 14 2011, 01:05 AM |
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:53 AM) i have a fren who is more keng chow than me....using a ruler to measure every corner of a house during VP to ensure total bu is exactly as per SnP Save ur 2 kumpang, some people are still cant accept disccusion in SA thread. By the way depend on where you work, I use to work in PJ so for me stay at SA or AI doesnt look different to me, also jam at nkve.Added on October 14, 2011, 1:05 am bro, i am vested in AI and SA. Allow me to give my 2 kupang here. undoubtedly SA has good amenities and value will be further strengthened when SCM is operational next year..... i see AI is following the footsteps of SA...perhaps due to the sharing of same father (PNB). AI investors generally looking at the future unlocked value of AI and not today...just like what SA buyers did few yrs ago IMO, amenities does not necessarily next to the house. if amenities are reachable within 5km and accessible w/o many traffic lights, it's considered good. Based on this, AI does meet this criteria due to its adjacent to Kota Kemuning and Tmn Sri Muda townships within 5km.....most amenities available in SA also the same in KK and easily accessible by AI residents. There also strong likelihood that an international school will set up in AI due to its large landbank. |
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Oct 14 2011, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:53 AM) IMO, amenities does not necessarily next to the house. if amenities are reachable within 5km and accessible w/o many traffic lights, it's considered good. Based on this, AI does meet this criteria due to its adjacent to Kota Kemuning and Tmn Sri Muda townships within 5km.....most amenities available in SA also the same in KK and easily accessible by AI residents. There also strong likelihood that an international school will set up in AI due to its large landbank. we should comment as if we are not vested.... it could be 5km, but need to pay toll whoa each time...... ta pou breakfast, need to pay toll drop children off school, need to pay toll ta pou lunch, need to pay toll pick up children from school, need to pay toll ta pou dinner, need to pay toll if after EPL game, wanna supper, need to pay toll...... BUT my so called argument is not about comparing this development and that development.....when buy a house, it's radically different from yester-years....you look at the whole master development, planned (and most importantly executed) amenities timely, access, value for money buy (not necessarily bigger and larger house), and priority these days, proper GnG. if you have read the news of yet another robbery turned residents got killed in a car robbery outside your gate...in non GnG housing esate...2 days ago.....I rather live in 20x70 small bird cage GG home, then living in a 26x85 non GG superlinks.....it's just not worth it. AI, being 50% bumi allocation, meaning the developer needs to cari the lost revenue from existing non-bumi lots, I wonder how they still can keep their margin going..... |
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Oct 14 2011, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 09:22 AM) we should comment as if we are not vested.... sorry but don't mind me asking, which particular phase in SA is G&G? i mean link house and not semi-d. tq.it could be 5km, but need to pay toll whoa each time...... ta pou breakfast, need to pay toll drop children off school, need to pay toll ta pou lunch, need to pay toll pick up children from school, need to pay toll ta pou dinner, need to pay toll if after EPL game, wanna supper, need to pay toll...... BUT my so called argument is not about comparing this development and that development.....when buy a house, it's radically different from yester-years....you look at the whole master development, planned (and most importantly executed) amenities timely, access, value for money buy (not necessarily bigger and larger house), and priority these days, proper GnG. if you have read the news of yet another robbery turned residents got killed in a car robbery outside your gate...in non GnG housing esate...2 days ago.....I rather live in 20x70 small bird cage GG home, then living in a 26x85 non GG superlinks.....it's just not worth it. AI, being 50% bumi allocation, meaning the developer needs to cari the lost revenue from existing non-bumi lots, I wonder how they still can keep their margin going..... |
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Oct 14 2011, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 14 2011, 09:45 AM) sorry but don't mind me asking, which particular phase in SA is G&G? i mean link house and not semi-d. tq. precinct 6 is proper GnG. consists of mainly SMDs and superlinks...but their earlier launched so called superlinks were not that big...like 24x70 only.....other precincts, 7 & 8 sold as non GG, but I see they have proper guard post and boomgate...also perimeter fencing (amidst looks fragile to me)..... better let SA residents to comment further...... Added on October 14, 2011, 10:01 amKemuning Utama, 20x70 (or it's 22x75), full GnG...not that much more xpensive than AI actually, if not cheaper..... This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Oct 14 2011, 10:01 AM |
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 14 2011, 09:45 AM) sorry but don't mind me asking, which particular phase in SA is G&G? i mean link house and not semi-d. tq. go back 1 page to page23, supersp posted details n pics of a 24x80 link, gng with dmc.there are a few more types in same category, same area - complete, no more new launches. |
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Oct 14 2011, 10:14 AM
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Just to share my observation on the jam thingy.
I have been using the access road of Setia Alam from my place (Aman Perdana) to NKVE since end of 2008. If I may say, the traffic there, Setia Alam to the tol, during peak hours have increased soo much that now, it is a normal sighting to see a jam bout 1-2 kms before passing the TENBY. I just can't imagine the jam in 1 yr time, unless, something drastic is being done to rechannel the car accessing the main SA road to TENBY's. It used to be a pleasure driving at the SA without any jam. And one need to also be reminded, that, SA population is not even half of what they plan yet. Sometimes, I wonder, where else shoulc I go...heheheheh.... |
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:53 AM) i have a fren who is more keng chow than me....using a ruler to measure every corner of a house during VP to ensure total bu is exactly as per SnP thanks for sharing, i'll share my short story too.Added on October 14, 2011, 1:05 am bro, i am vested in AI and SA. Allow me to give my 2 kupang here. undoubtedly SA has good amenities and value will be further strengthened when SCM is operational next year..... i see AI is following the footsteps of SA...perhaps due to the sharing of same father (PNB). AI investors generally looking at the future unlocked value of AI and not today...just like what SA buyers did few yrs ago IMO, amenities does not necessarily next to the house. if amenities are reachable within 5km and accessible w/o many traffic lights, it's considered good. Based on this, AI does meet this criteria due to its adjacent to Kota Kemuning and Tmn Sri Muda townships within 5km.....most amenities available in SA also the same in KK and easily accessible by AI residents. There also strong likelihood that an international school will set up in AI due to its large landbank. i had checked ai not so long ago to see if it fits my criteria as investment and it's a no. my conclusion was if there is no school and no shop after 5-6 years, and nothing under constr, it can remain so for another 5-6 yrs, if not longer. not fun to be driving all the time buying groceries, food and ferrying schooling kids - this, must think for future subsale buyer. my conclusion is the same for denai alam, also no school, no shop after 6-7 yrs. that says quite a lot about the developer(s) and the planning, no? the idea of unlocking value is dependent on the developer, i.e. may need to wait a long time, very slow. anyway, this is not ai thread as much as ai thread shouldn't become sa or da thread... please!! This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 14 2011, 10:22 AM |
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the earlier phases of SA are mostly for own stay... only started mid 2009 where most of the buyers bought to goreng goreng
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Oct 14 2011, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 09:22 AM) we should comment as if we are not vested.... aiyoyo, now i know why some1 like to bean counting w/o able to differentiate a tree from a forest....kekeke it could be 5km, but need to pay toll whoa each time...... ta pou breakfast, need to pay toll drop children off school, need to pay toll ta pou lunch, need to pay toll pick up children from school, need to pay toll ta pou dinner, need to pay toll if after EPL game, wanna supper, need to pay toll...... BUT my so called argument is not about comparing this development and that development.....when buy a house, it's radically different from yester-years....you look at the whole master development, planned (and most importantly executed) amenities timely, access, value for money buy (not necessarily bigger and larger house), and priority these days, proper GnG. if you have read the news of yet another robbery turned residents got killed in a car robbery outside your gate...in non GnG housing esate...2 days ago.....I rather live in 20x70 small bird cage GG home, then living in a 26x85 non GG superlinks.....it's just not worth it. AI, being 50% bumi allocation, meaning the developer needs to cari the lost revenue from existing non-bumi lots, I wonder how they still can keep their margin going..... staying in SA no need to pay toll, izzit? seems you have yet to see the entire AI........let's use hard facts and not imagination or perception Fact 1: there is a back way in AI to go to Tmn Sri Muda and KK to do those daily stuff as you said without paying LKSA toll. Fact 2 : for Pentas new launch, it will be guarded and likely to be fenced upon VP. Utimately AI will be FnG area. I currently staying in a FnG area and my siblings staying at fully GnG in famous sierxamxs. From statistics, break in and theft of the latter is worst than my current place. Some GnG is safer than FnG just a perception. Do you have evidence to substantiate the break-in cases in AI is higher than SA? Fact 3 : value is perceived differently by individual. You look at present value of SA and i look at future value of AI....pointless to debate this unless we revisit this thread 3 yrs later. This was the same debate 3 yrs ago SA vs PJ/Subang . Fact 4 : 50% bumi allocation. So far no problem for AI and all phases sold out.....don;t discriminate here and i am colour blind. Btw, allow me to remind you SPS will soon become subsidiary of PNB. This post has been edited by jet2020: Oct 14 2011, 10:31 AM |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 10:00 AM) precinct 6 is proper GnG. consists of mainly SMDs and superlinks...but their earlier launched so called superlinks were not that big...like 24x70 only..... KU subsale for a 22x70 unit is going at around $600-$650k. it's full G&G but really don't like the design of the house. having said that its interior finishing and material used look pretty good compared to SA.other precincts, 7 & 8 sold as non GG, but I see they have proper guard post and boomgate...also perimeter fencing (amidst looks fragile to me)..... better let SA residents to comment further...... Added on October 14, 2011, 10:01 amKemuning Utama, 20x70 (or it's 22x75), full GnG...not that much more xpensive than AI actually, if not cheaper..... QUOTE(Donnthk @ Oct 14 2011, 10:14 AM) Just to share my observation on the jam thingy. SA used to be very quiet and you could enjoy smooth driving. since im not staying there and hence i couldn't comment how the traffic is during peak hours but judging from my observation during my drive along NKVE, i could see lots of cars entering/exiting SA toll. if it's like what you said (1-2kms jam), that is going to be very unpretty and as predicted. I have been using the access road of Setia Alam from my place (Aman Perdana) to NKVE since end of 2008. If I may say, the traffic there, Setia Alam to the tol, during peak hours have increased soo much that now, it is a normal sighting to see a jam bout 1-2 kms before passing the TENBY. I just can't imagine the jam in 1 yr time, unless, something drastic is being done to rechannel the car accessing the main SA road to TENBY's. It used to be a pleasure driving at the SA without any jam. And one need to also be reminded, that, SA population is not even half of what they plan yet. Sometimes, I wonder, where else shoulc I go...heheheheh.... QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 14 2011, 10:18 AM) thanks for sharing, i'll share my short story too. since TTDI is also developing AI, hopefully more exciting stuff will be coming. i had checked ai not so long ago to see if it fits my criteria as investment and it's a no. my conclusion was if there is no school and no shop after 5-6 years, and nothing under constr, it can remain so for another 5-6 yrs, if not longer. not fun to be driving all the time buying groceries, food and ferrying schooling kids - this, must think for future subsale buyer. my conclusion is the same for denai alam, also no school, no shop after 6-7 yrs. that says quite a lot about the developer(s) and the planning, no? the idea of unlocking value is dependent on the developer, i.e. may need to wait a long time, very slow. anyway, this is not ai thread as much as ai thread shouldn't become sa or da thread... please!! |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 13 2011, 11:24 PM) again...this part i dun really understand..... bean, tell me which fact that i ignore ? did i deny SA is a well planned township ?? or i deny they have amenities ??just because AI is offering bigger land at same high price with other development, then its becoming a desireable place to stay lioa? there are reasons why SA can demand this price at smaller plot..... but you choose to ignore these facts...but keep on selling AI....just because it offers a bigger house? BTW, I am not here to sell SA.....i also couldn't care less if ppl wanna buy SA, DA or AI......i know my budget, and I know my expectation... just because SA did offer some amenities, so they can overcharges?? is it the toll FOC or the Giant/Tesco there offer free groceries?? your brain is lean toward SA those you r happy everything offer by the developer....but i believe others have much better picture. i am not even vested in AI nor SA, so stop talking bout i sell AI, i comment base on what AI offer, but i did visit SA regularly since my relative stay there, the living room so small that it doesn't even have extra space for a mahjong table after u put in sofa, dinning table...if you r not married, good enough for 2 persons, if you are family man, with 3-4 kids, will you happy to see your kids living in that cramp space, while you r working like shit daily to pay d 3k++ installment? (i am talking about average joe salary here, if u earn 20k per month u can ignore.) again the whole story is either justify or not justify, if u r happy for your investment, u can justify it yourself, not me, so why keep arguing ?? |
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 10:29 AM) aiyoyo, now i know why some1 like to bean counting w/o able to differentiate a tree from a forest....kekeke fact1: it's worth it to use back way just to tapoa chu yuk fan? staying in SA no need to pay toll, izzit? seems you have yet to see the entire AI........let's use hard facts and not imagination or perception Fact 1: there is a back way in AI to go to Tmn Sri Muda and KK to do those daily stuff as you said without paying LKSA toll. Fact 2 : for Pentas new launch, it will be guarded and likely to be fenced upon VP. Utimately AI will be FnG area. I currently staying in a FnG area and my siblings staying at fully GnG in famous sierxamxs. From statistics, break in and theft of the latter is worst than my current place. Some GnG is safer than FnG just a perception. Do you have evidence to substantiate the break-in cases in AI is higher than SA? Fact 3 : value is perceived differently by individual. You look at present value of SA and i look at future value of AI....pointless to debate this unless we revisit this thread 3 yrs later. This was the same debate 3 yrs ago SA vs PJ/Subang . Fact 4 : 50% bumi allocation. So far no problem for AI and all phases sold out.....don;t discriminate here and i am colour blind. Btw, allow me to remind you SPS will soon become subsidiary of PNB. fact2: where you obtained the so called "statistics"? AI got statistics on break in cases one meh? As far as I know, you guys dun even have home owners association...... if guarded only, the entire SA under Setia is currently guarded also. GnG is safer than FnG is not a perception. it's a theory. I never quoted any break in cases comparing AI and SA. I was just referring to a robbery/murder case happened two days ago at one of the non GG housing estates. fact3: value can be seem in 2 ways - monetary value and intangible value. I believe we are not even debating about which development will appreciate in monetary value in the future better. We are discussing on the emotional benefits for own stay. fact4: that will be the problem - if AI all sold out....meaning 50% of the buyers are buying at 7% or 10% cheaper than the rest. Guess who is footing the bills for the discount? who discriminate? I think only our beloved govt practises discrimination here...not me. I am just quoting from known facts! Subsidiary of PNB or not, SA already >50% developed. Added on October 14, 2011, 12:06 pm QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 14 2011, 11:58 AM) i am not even vested in AI nor SA, so stop talking bout i sell AI, i comment base on what AI offer, but i did visit SA regularly since my relative stay there, the living room so small that it doesn't even have extra space for a mahjong table after u put in sofa, dinning table...if you r not married, good enough for 2 persons, if you are family man, with 3-4 kids, will you happy to see your kids living in that cramp space, while you r working like shit daily to pay d 3k++ installment? (i am talking about average joe salary here, if u earn 20k per month u can ignore.) you have 3-4 kids and you want to play mahjong in the house? how are they going to study in the house? worse still....live in terrace, wanna play mahjong? how do your neigbours take the noise? taiko, you are talking abt 2200sq vs maybe 2600sq...a different of 400sq or thereabou nia......not like in AI you are going to get double the size or 50% extra size with the same amount of money....... This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Oct 14 2011, 12:06 PM |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 11:59 AM) fact1: it's worth it to use back way just to tapoa chu yuk fan? actually if emotional benefits for staying is the motion for debate here, i believe we can save the trouble here, AI has nothing now but vast empty land.fact2: where you obtained the so called "statistics"? AI got statistics on break in cases one meh? As far as I know, you guys dun even have home owners association...... if guarded only, the entire SA under Setia is currently guarded also. GnG is safer than FnG is not a perception. it's a theory. I never quoted any break in cases comparing AI and SA. I was just referring to a robbery/murder case happened two days ago at one of the non GG housing estates. fact3: value can be seem in 2 ways - monetary value and intangible value. I believe we are not even debating about which development will appreciate in monetary value in the future better. We are discussing on the emotional benefits for own stay. fact4: that will be the problem - if AI all sold out....meaning 50% of the buyers are buying at 7% or 10% cheaper than the rest. Guess who is footing the bills for the discount? who discriminate? I think only our beloved govt practises discrimination here...not me. I am just quoting from known facts! Subsidiary of PNB or not, SA already >50% developed. I believe the comparison should be SA vs DPC then, or sierramas, maybe valencia. |
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Oct 14 2011, 12:06 PM) actually if emotional benefits for staying is the motion for debate here, i believe we can save the trouble here, AI has nothing now but vast empty land. no whoa...according to the AI supporters here...AI GOT OPPORTUNITY, BIGGER HOUSE.....dun say they got nothing...... |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 11:59 AM) fact1: it's worth it to use back way just to tapoa chu yuk fan? this thread slowly entering into holier-than-thou debate btw AI and SA......continuous arguing is wasting our time here and only piss off other forummers....let them read and judgefact2: where you obtained the so called "statistics"? AI got statistics on break in cases one meh? As far as I know, you guys dun even have home owners association...... if guarded only, the entire SA under Setia is currently guarded also. GnG is safer than FnG is not a perception. it's a theory. I never quoted any break in cases comparing AI and SA. I was just referring to a robbery/murder case happened two days ago at one of the non GG housing estates. fact3: value can be seem in 2 ways - monetary value and intangible value. I believe we are not even debating about which development will appreciate in monetary value in the future better. We are discussing on the emotional benefits for own stay. fact4: that will be the problem - if AI all sold out....meaning 50% of the buyers are buying at 7% or 10% cheaper than the rest. Guess who is footing the bills for the discount? who discriminate? I think only our beloved govt practises discrimination here...not me. I am just quoting from known facts! Subsidiary of PNB or not, SA already >50% developed. pointless for me to response to those alleged "facts" you mentioned although i can punch holes easily.......understand you are MBA qualified and i am very ïmpressed"with your "trained judgement and hollistic analysis".....kekeke! |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 12:08 PM) no whoa...according to the AI supporters here...AI GOT OPPORTUNITY, BIGGER HOUSE.....dun say they got nothing...... well of coz, AI still has like what, 6 phases to go. Second phase just in the beginning of launch (and this is still consider pilot phase).theres no use comparing ammenities and living environment, even the trees are small. so lets say if you want to invest, which one do you go for? for own stay, are you willing to pay for SA's premium (up to 30% with smaller land size), simple as that. |
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:12 PM) this thread slowly entering into holier-than-thou debate btw AI and SA......continuous arguing is wasting our time here and only piss off other forummers....let them read and judge i agree. it's time wasting....pointless for me to response to those alleged "facts" you mentioned although i can punch holes easily.......understand you are MBA qualified and i am very ïmpressed"with your "trained judgement and hollistic analysis".....kekeke! but you are embarking on personal attack......very tasteless... anywhere, it happens all the time in the forum...when ppl run out of value debating points, they tend to go for personal attack.... |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 12:18 PM) i agree. it's time wasting.... give you compliment also kena hentam.... but you are embarking on personal attack......very tasteless... anywhere, it happens all the time in the forum...when ppl run out of value debating points, they tend to go for personal attack.... i shld thank you for defending SA as i am vested there... |
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Oct 14 2011, 12:17 PM) well of coz, AI still has like what, 6 phases to go. Second phase just in the beginning of launch (and this is still consider pilot phase). i agree with you.....after like 6 or 7 years lioa now.....they are just starting to launch more...taking advantage of the BBB sentiment...theres no use comparing ammenities and living environment, even the trees are small. so lets say if you want to invest, which one do you go for? for own stay, are you willing to pay for SA's premium (up to 30% with smaller land size), simple as that. actually, for own say, i would rather buy those 20-30yrs older houses......in PJ..... prices for both SA and AI are crazy.... but if gun pointed to head, I will take SA.....because AI is never on my list of house hunting......period. Added on October 14, 2011, 12:26 pm QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:21 PM) give you compliment also kena hentam.... Jet, I can read btw the line.....i ain't that stupid, just because I did buy anything in AI.... This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Oct 14 2011, 12:26 PM |
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Oct 14 2011, 12:27 PM
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Oct 14 2011, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 12:22 PM) but PJ areas with 20-30years old houses got no full GnG ....so how do ownstay there? no fear of murder/robbery cases meh?? Added on October 14, 2011, 12:34 pm QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 12:22 PM) buy anything or nothing in AI?see....you are making assumption here again nobody is stupid here....all very cerdik-cerdik ones!! : Added on October 14, 2011, 12:36 pm QUOTE(1ullaby @ Oct 14 2011, 12:27 PM) boss....don't char me la....i could only afford less than $1m props. but i am very privileged to have die-hards to defend the value of my small investments This post has been edited by jet2020: Oct 14 2011, 12:36 PM |
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Oct 14 2011, 01:49 PM
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for investment, i won't buy AI or SA ... cos both are out of my budget for investment
for own stay, i will buy SA for sure ... don't see any big improvements forseeable in AI 2-3 years down the road ... for investment, for me, a safe approach is to wear the "own stay" hat , ie : will i stay there 2 years down the road ? if yes, then ok, if no, dun take the risk .... but of cos, need to have the bullets first lar ... hehee This post has been edited by supersp: Oct 14 2011, 01:51 PM |
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Oct 14 2011, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:12 PM) this thread slowly entering into holier-than-thou debate btw AI and SA......continuous arguing is wasting our time here and only piss off other forummers....let them read and judge the truth is all homebuyers and investors in west kv would have checked sa, da, ai.and kota kemuning, bukit rimau. and ambang, bandar botanic, bkt tinggi, bandar puteri klang. everyone's smart enough to evaluate their choices! |
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Oct 14 2011, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 14 2011, 02:17 PM) the truth is all homebuyers and investors in west kv would have checked sa, da, ai. Everyone have there own choice base on working place/environment preference/amenities and the place that think is their dream house. It just more like advise and discussion more than argument or debate. I own a DSL house in PJ, does it mean that I only think PJ is a best place compare others (near 1U, Tropicana, NKVE highway, SPRINT etc)? Of course the answer is NO.and kota kemuning, bukit rimau. and ambang, bandar botanic, bkt tinggi, bandar puteri klang. everyone's smart enough to evaluate their choices! |
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Oct 14 2011, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 11:59 AM) fact1: it's worth it to use back way just to tapoa chu yuk fan? u always dun get me, i am talking about available space in d house, mahjong table is just an example...btw, it is not only the extra built up 400sqf, it is the layout itself, if u married with 3-4 kids, bring your wife visit a superlink, see if she will nag you ' see, ask u chose a bigger house, u dun listen ' fact2: where you obtained the so called "statistics"? AI got statistics on break in cases one meh? As far as I know, you guys dun even have home owners association...... if guarded only, the entire SA under Setia is currently guarded also. GnG is safer than FnG is not a perception. it's a theory. I never quoted any break in cases comparing AI and SA. I was just referring to a robbery/murder case happened two days ago at one of the non GG housing estates. fact3: value can be seem in 2 ways - monetary value and intangible value. I believe we are not even debating about which development will appreciate in monetary value in the future better. We are discussing on the emotional benefits for own stay. fact4: that will be the problem - if AI all sold out....meaning 50% of the buyers are buying at 7% or 10% cheaper than the rest. Guess who is footing the bills for the discount? who discriminate? I think only our beloved govt practises discrimination here...not me. I am just quoting from known facts! Subsidiary of PNB or not, SA already >50% developed. Added on October 14, 2011, 12:06 pm you have 3-4 kids and you want to play mahjong in the house? how are they going to study in the house? worse still....live in terrace, wanna play mahjong? how do your neigbours take the noise? taiko, you are talking abt 2200sq vs maybe 2600sq...a different of 400sq or thereabou nia......not like in AI you are going to get double the size or 50% extra size with the same amount of money....... anyhow, i agree with our forummer Jet2020, it is wasting time to continue this, others forummers could have start eyes pain looking at the debate....not wise to go further. |
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Oct 14 2011, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 14 2011, 02:17 PM) the truth is all homebuyers and investors in west kv would have checked sa, da, ai. yup.....care to share which area(s) you mentioned is/are undervalue if you wear the lens of investors ?and kota kemuning, bukit rimau. and ambang, bandar botanic, bkt tinggi, bandar puteri klang. everyone's smart enough to evaluate their choices! Added on October 14, 2011, 2:30 pm QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 14 2011, 02:24 PM) if u married with 3-4 kids, bring your wife visit a superlink, see if she will nag you ' see, ask u chose a bigger house, u dun listen ' bro, you berri keng chow....dat's what my wifey has been nagging me about my current house in my humble view, i see the potential value of spacious superlink for those like me who cannot afford smd or b'galow or corner linked but wanted the bigger space in a homely and quiet neighbourhood...... This post has been edited by jet2020: Oct 14 2011, 02:30 PM |
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Oct 14 2011, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 02:24 PM) yup.....care to share which area(s) you mentioned is/are undervalue if you wear the lens of investors ? You need "Space to think" right !!?? I think your houses can at least form golden rectangle (maybe is pentagon or heksagon i am not sure la). Sell off this golden rectangle should be able to get u a b'galow ....Added on October 14, 2011, 2:30 pm bro, you berri keng chow....dat's what my wifey has been nagging me about my current house in my humble view, i see the potential value of spacious superlink for those like me who cannot afford smd or b'galow or corner linked but wanted the bigger space in a homely and quiet neighbourhood...... |
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Oct 14 2011, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Oct 14 2011, 02:37 PM) You need "Space to think" right !!?? I think your houses can at least form golden rectangle (maybe is pentagon or heksagon i am not sure la). Sell off this golden rectangle should be able to get u a b'galow .... bro, current hse cannot sell la....it's my first house and a lot of sentimental and fengsui value....need to pass this hse to my children from generation to generation....kekeke |
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Oct 14 2011, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 02:24 PM) yup.....care to share which area(s) you mentioned is/are undervalue if you wear the lens of investors ? Added on October 14, 2011, 2:30 pm bro, you berri keng chow....dat's what my wifey has been nagging me about my current house in my humble view, i see the potential value of spacious superlink for those like me who cannot afford smd or b'galow or corner linked but wanted the bigger space in a homely and quiet neighbourhood...... We look at most of the places mentioned, near Shah Alam. I was trying to make a rational decision - appreciation value, amenities, GnG blah blah blah So kepala pening (SA was first choice, by the way) Finally took the easy way out - let the wife decide! Her decision was simple - SA, DA, AI all not worth it - so little for so much money. Kids all more or less grown up - amenities not too important - can shop on the way back from work Fencing and guarded will do. most important is space and a place you 'will want to call home' (don't understand this. also don't understand woman) So end up buying a SD at the fringes....... In the end, either follow your money or your heart. This post has been edited by Fazab: Oct 14 2011, 02:57 PM |
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Oct 14 2011, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(Fazab @ Oct 14 2011, 02:55 PM) We look at most of the places mentioned, near Shah Alam. I was trying to make a rational decision - appreciation value, amenities, GnG blah blah blah So kepala pening (SA was first choice, by the way) Finally took the easy way out - let the wife decide! Her decision was simple - SA, DA, AI all not worth it - so little for so much money. Kids all more or less grown up - amenities not too important - can shop on the way back from work Fencing and guarded will do. most important is space and a place you 'will want to call home' (don't understand this. also don't understand woman) So end up buying a SD at the fringes....... In the end, either follow your money or your heart. I follow bold 1 |
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Oct 14 2011, 03:14 PM
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Oct 14 2011, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 02:24 PM) yup.....care to share which area(s) you mentioned is/are undervalue if you wear the lens of investors ? unfortunately, i see none on that list as an investor. poor eyesight finding kaplars these days. imo, the prime period is over, gains if any will be miminal for a while in majority of new projects. i'm still trying to understand why some are still pretty gungho buying new as investment. for own stay, ok to buy anywhere as long as you're convinced yourself, prepare to pay and live there. |
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Oct 14 2011, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 14 2011, 03:14 PM) My 1st property was my decision because is under my name.My second house I let my future wife decide... She happy I happy~ |
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Oct 14 2011, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 02:24 PM) yup.....care to share which area(s) you mentioned is/are undervalue if you wear the lens of investors ? we r both married man, know what woman want.....haha, respect to all the husbands ! Added on October 14, 2011, 2:30 pm bro, you berri keng chow....dat's what my wifey has been nagging me about my current house in my humble view, i see the potential value of spacious superlink for those like me who cannot afford smd or b'galow or corner linked but wanted the bigger space in a homely and quiet neighbourhood...... but with all your purchases, your wife should be happy2 no more nag everyday 'darling~' liao..... |
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Oct 14 2011, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 10:00 AM) precinct 6 is proper GnG. consists of mainly SMDs and superlinks...but their earlier launched so called superlinks were not that big...like 24x70 only..... + 1 more Anjung Sari also G&G with clubhouse with swimming pool & other facilities. Location north of Setia Mall.other precincts, 7 & 8 sold as non GG, but I see they have proper guard post and boomgate...also perimeter fencing (amidst looks fragile to me)..... better let SA residents to comment further...... 1) Consisting 22x75 3 storey superlink houses complete with bath tub, jacuzzi, plaster ceiling, cornice. Build up from 2900sqft. Got 3 phases. a) Phase 1 previously developer sell at 550k. Estimate VP early next year. Got owner successfully flip before VP for 750k recently. b) Phase 2 Daffodil developer sold at 590k bu from 3000sqft. Estimate VP early 2013. c) Phase 3 developer sold at 690k. Estimate VP end 2013. Northern Setia Alam Recreational hill park is behind this phase 3. Others unit including Semi-Ds & bungalows. This post has been edited by Mair: Oct 14 2011, 05:37 PM |
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Oct 14 2011, 05:42 PM
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Oct 14 2011, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(Mair @ Oct 14 2011, 05:34 PM) + 1 more Anjung Sari also G&G with clubhouse with swimming pool & other facilities. Location north of Setia Mall. Just curious 1) Consisting 22x75 3 storey superlink houses complete with bath tub, jacuzzi, plaster ceiling, cornice. Build up from 2900sqft. Got 3 phases. a) Phase 1 previously developer sell at 550k. Estimate VP early next year. Got owner successfully flip before VP for 750k recently. b) Phase 2 Daffodil developer sold at 590k bu from 3000sqft. Estimate VP early 2013. c) Phase 3 developer sold at 690k. Estimate VP end 2013. Northern Setia Alam Recreational hill park is behind this phase 3. Others unit including Semi-Ds & bungalows. If fully G&G then strata title only? How much agak2 maintenance fees and sinking fund? |
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Oct 14 2011, 06:28 PM
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how about Indah or Damai Residence at Kemuning Utama, Shah Alam? boarder of Klang
guarded & gated somemore This post has been edited by 4evernelson: Oct 14 2011, 06:29 PM |
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Oct 14 2011, 11:09 PM
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funny...if wifey is the one that made the decision....then why bother to kay-bo-che in the property forums?
another catch-no-ball remark.... gave up! |
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Oct 14 2011, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 14 2011, 11:09 PM) funny...if wifey is the one that made the decision....then why bother to kay-bo-che in the property forums? Simple. Wife's wisdom save me a bit of money, so got bullet for one more small buy. Maybe for investment.another catch-no-ball remark.... gave up! I happen to be with the group who think prices will soon drop, so waiting for an opportunity. Nothing to lose. So while waiting, look-see look-see here and there. Talk to people who knows more. Share experience. Ask questions to learn. Keep up with the latest. That's what forums are for, right? |
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Oct 14 2011, 11:47 PM
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again......another wrong assumption made by Mr Bean .........
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Oct 15 2011, 12:01 AM
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I follow this thread quite closely and i appreciate the feedback and also comparison with AI.
Perhaps, we shall focus on SA and other project for constructive comparison and not discussion on who is calling the shot in the house. Btw, any new launchng anytime soon? |
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Oct 15 2011, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 11:47 PM) Haters gonna Hate As I already mention some people cant accept opinion QUOTE I follow this thread quite closely and i appreciate the feedback and also comparison with AI. Currently there have Mimosa Type 1 and 2 selling about 60% and Duta Villa. You can visit their show gallery for more info.Perhaps, we shall focus on SA and other project for constructive comparison and not discussion on who is calling the shot in the house. Btw, any new launchng anytime soon? Mimosa -20x70 BU 2180sf From RM680,00 (corner lot sold out) Duta Villa - 3.5-sty Terrace/Link House From RM2,164,000 - RM2,931,000 This post has been edited by M2K2Land: Oct 15 2011, 12:12 AM |
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