Go checkout the subsale from Alam Nusantara @ Setia Alam by PKNS. That area can get between 460k to 550k intermediate 20x70. Latest phase Ayuprima subsale 538k to 550k good buy buildup 2000sqft, 2x2 porcelein tiles living, column free car park, open space masterbath. Ecopark bungalow at the Eastside, Anjung sari superlink/bungalow & Mentari Bungalow at Northern Side, Setia City at South side (jogging distance to Setia Mall). Upcoming bungalow at Westside. This Alam Nusantara can be said prime land for terrace house compare to SPSetia one.

Don't under estimate PKNS quality at this area & blindly compare with SPSetia brand without seeing it yourself.

SA starting price of the property is much lower than in AI...I guess that is one of the many reason why SA growth at much faster pace...location (bordering Klang and Shah Alam directly) also helps. Well, I guess the strategy and execution of the develop is much more result oriented compared for I&P.

AI houses are generally bigger in built up and land area.....

Both have tolls, but with the development of the retails, commercial and shopping malls, SA is much more convenient. Besides with Chinese School, international school, some how it hlep to lure more chinese....

AI is more like KK at the early stage ... the fact that it doesnt have lower cost properties like apartment or flat at this point of time, will pretty much having middle class people....the cheapest house also close to 600k now...

both offering certain uniqueness and no point to argue too much which one is better on the overall as people would have their own preference.....I like SA beause of the more convenient and better township (as of now) .....I like AI because of the overall concept (green, lake) if they could implement it as such...maybe after it is more developed....the gaps will be very small between both....as both are developed by decent developers...

mind to share how much long it takes u to reach damansara? which part of damansara btw.

and the jam start from wher? all the way from klang? if only concern the exit from SA, how about that?

thanks

typically the jam will start about 1km (or less) before shah alam/bkt jelutong exit for 2-3km (now there's a contra lane at this point). then slow moving toward damansara exit. im not sure how's the traffic from damansara to jln duta toll though. my office is located at damansara heights and it takes forever from damansara toll to my office!   

then after work it's a nightmare travelling back using NKVE to Klang/SA. the jam is like great wall! very d@rn pissed with the traffic in KV! but no choice still have to stay here and work here. 

well, thanks.

i guess during rush hour, really cant run away from traffic jam. just gotta hope it is still better than other township like cheras area or puchong area. but it seems, they are the same and with SA even more mileage to cover.

hope it's bearable for me though. perhaps i gotta find a morning to try.

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Added on October 10, 2011, 4:30 pm
well, kesas will need to turn to mex or mrr2. even kesas not jam, i believe mex and mrr2 sure will. but the point is, as long as going to KL city, everywhere also jam.

let says from puchong, if go to berjaya times square area, coming out from smart and mex quite ok but if go to klcc.....well, need to add many minutes of driving into it.

+100.

I really hate waste time on the road. Cannot sleep, cannot do anything except sitting if my phone battery went dead.

Appreciation wise is pretty good i would said, if you are early batch buyer, the money you pay still worth it, congrates! my relative brought an early phase 20x70 there at only 245k for own stay. that is justify! but with new launch, same layout, slightly bigger built up go for 688k? that's daylight robbery....

Number 8 I understand, but why number 5 also?

then I really "lost" on your intention.

you are in SA thread trying to promote AI? why?

I thought there is a dedicated AI thread?

To me AI is a write off from day1...... I rather buy Kajang than AI....

Hahaha.....what's my intention?...hmm, if i tell you if SA launch 24x85 @ 688k, i will queue in the sales office with my favourite pillow , toothpaste, 3 in 1 milo 3 days before soft launch, ,,,,now u tell me what is my intention?...hehe, hope i dun confuse u more....
20x70@688k> 
24x85@688k>

Btw, u r the one ask me justify AI, there go my comment about AI, now u ask me back ?? check back ur post

you read my feeling 

So u will queue for PKNS 22x75 launching lo ... Bro Mair said >600k ...

don't want PKNS... >.<

from the pic, the real built up for this 24'x80' DSL is 47.5'x24'.

So gross BU is 2714sf and nett BU is ard 2500sf.....

say 800k subsale price and 2500sf nett BU, price is $320psf.....not meeting my investment criteria

i have a fren who is more keng chow than me....using a ruler to measure every corner of a house during VP to ensure total bu is exactly as per SnP 

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Added on October 14, 2011, 1:05 am
bro, i am vested in AI and SA. Allow me to give my 2 kupang here.

undoubtedly SA has good amenities and value will be further strengthened when SCM is operational next year.....

i see AI is following the footsteps of SA...perhaps due to the sharing of same father (PNB). AI investors generally looking at the future unlocked value of AI and not today...just like what SA buyers did few yrs ago

IMO, amenities does not necessarily next to the house. if amenities are reachable within 5km and accessible w/o many traffic lights, it's considered good. Based on this, AI does meet this criteria due to its adjacent to Kota Kemuning and Tmn Sri Muda townships within 5km.....most amenities available in SA also the same in KK and easily accessible by AI residents. There also strong likelihood that an international school will set up in AI due to its large landbank.

the truth is all homebuyers and investors in west kv would have checked sa, da, ai.
and kota kemuning, bukit rimau.
and ambang, bandar botanic, bkt tinggi, bandar puteri klang.
everyone's smart enough to evaluate their choices!

  Remind me few months ago when i was looking to buy for own stay   

We look at most of the places mentioned, near Shah Alam. 

I was trying to make a rational decision - appreciation value, amenities, GnG blah blah blah
So kepala pening 
(SA was first choice, by the way)

Finally took the easy way out - let the wife decide! 

Her decision was simple -  SA, DA, AI all not worth it - so little for so much money.
Kids all more or less grown up - amenities not too important - can shop on the way back from work
Fencing and guarded will do.
most important is space and a place you 'will want to call home' (don't understand this. also don't understand woman)

So end up buying a SD at the fringes.......

In the end, either follow your money or your heart.

well for us guy, if we could tolerate, just let the wife decide to save the nagging in future! 

again......another wrong assumption made by Mr Bean .........

I follow this thread quite closely and i appreciate the feedback and also comparison with AI.

Perhaps, we shall focus on SA and other project for constructive comparison and not discussion on who is calling the shot in the house.

Btw, any new launchng anytime soon?

mind sharing where you get the 200k+interest from? you mean comparable houses in KK is 200k cheaper than SA?

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Added on October 19, 2011, 3:51 pm

not trying to dig a mummy out of the grave...but I konfuse again....

if KK is lack of innovation and product differentiation...and its neigbouring AI is basically following the same blue print minus the amenities....where do we see AI going in the near future?

no jusco, no chinese school, no mall insight, no visible commercial....?

i was referring to AI no chinese skool....
please read properly before comment. Appreciate  

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Added on October 20, 2011, 3:08 pm

you mean say, if you were to buy a 20x70 in SA now for 688k, you can get one similar size in KK or AI at 488k? new vis new?
sure boh?

I bought a GG home in Subang for 408k few years back....whereas in DPC, similar home was selling for 488k then.
7 yrs later, my subang home....at best can sell only around 650k...whereas the DPC one, already appreciated to close to 1mil (think more)...

lesson learnt: sometimes it's not about the absolute value or size of the house.....or how much p+i you paid.....you need to look at the bigger picture....

no doubt buy right is crucial when come to long run, SA AI KK DA have all d potential to appreciates further, everybody just need to choose his favorite hidden goldmine, sit back and count money