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post Jul 8 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Donnthk @ Jun 22 2011, 05:55 PM)
If you are looking for a comfortable, spacious house, let it be a terrace or semi d cluster, then Setia Alam houses are damn expensive for the size and location.

I'ved been there when I was looking for my second house last time....and frankly, not worth the additional money.

I got my Semi D cluster at RM318K not far from there and the build up alone is 2150 sf.
one's person meat is another person's poison.

You should see Setia Alam as the whole integrated development of 4000acres, not just a single phase with single price tag.

I personally find SA better value for money and a much nicer place to live in.

disclaimer - not the selling price within the last 9 months.

Don, what will be your SMD Cluster asking @ subsale market now? mind to share?
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post Jul 13 2011, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(airline @ Jul 12 2011, 07:52 PM)
setia alam can sell liquor? just curious. if can maybe next kota damansara
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looks like Setia Alam is not very popular here! tongue.gif

You mean Bar or just sell alcoholic drinks?

Go to Tesco Setia Alam.....just like any other tesco, got non-halal section.....beside Overtime is opening soon....

the whole Setia City is gazzetted under International Trade licence, so all sinful activities can be carried out here...sinful means entertainment...not banned activities like brothel and etc.....
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post Oct 9 2011, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 7 2011, 11:52 AM)
alam impian is up and coming. at the moment it's pretty much just residential houses but both TTDI and I&P have their masterplan that include commercial and other amenities. there's also a vast piece of land adjacent to the current development and someone who I know is currently negotiating the price with state gov to buy it over for development. its location is quite strategic where it's smack right in the middle of kesas and federal highway. this area will turn out to be a hot area in the not-too-distance future i foresee. just my 2 cent.
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dun mean to be a "show-down" btw these two townships, but do consider that AI and SA launched almost the same time.....7-8yrs ago...then deputy PM Najis went for official ground breaking in AI.......

fast forward 2011....what do you get:-

1. AI is less than 1m above sea level.....on low land......
2. AI is 50% bumi quote...meaning there is potentially 1/2 buyers are 10% cheaper than your house...(if you are non-bumi), meaning your price is heavily "subsidized" to others...
3. 7-8 yrs down the road...apa pun tiada......in terms of commercial development, common amenities like schools and sporting complexes...
4. paying tolls even if you wanna ta-pou teh tarik....at KK side....
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post Oct 9 2011, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 9 2011, 04:19 PM)
township wise might is well planned, no doubt, but with that location, klang area with a shah alam address, still not justify that price.
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then how do you justify AI? also out of no where.....bordering klang, no?


Added on October 9, 2011, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 9 2011, 05:06 PM)
i only concern well spend money, shah alam add does not make it better anyway.
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it has some impact overall, pending on what city council you are in...

BUT I believe all AI, DA and SA under MbSA......

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post Oct 10 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 10 2011, 10:21 AM)
AI definitely justify the price, you pay premium , you get premium product, good environment and much more bigger layout, sometimes is not only the location, is does it worth the money you pay? atleast i think AI stand out better than SA.
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i do agree with you that comparing house vs house, AI houses seems to be better quality and larger.....(based strictly on photos).
but outside your gate.....it's a big NO NO for me......from A to Z......

so it's down to the prospect of you are buying a house or buying a home.....IMO....

no right or wrong answer...just based on individual.....

for me, SA (or to be specified, Ecopark) worths every single cent that I paid...in fact, more like I paid 1 cent, I got 2 cent back! rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 11 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 10 2011, 12:25 PM)
i love what ecopark has to offer but not SA in particular. few years back the 1st phase at ecopark was selling at only RM600k++ but now the semi-d starts from how much? i can't even follow the latest pricing coz it's selling too good!  rclxub.gif
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1st phase started from 599k for SMDs.....
latest cheapest SMDs.....2.1mil....

subsale market...asking 1.7mil for 1.5s SMDs.....2s SMDs, pushing 2mil....


Added on October 11, 2011, 5:58 pm
QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 10 2011, 03:06 PM)
It is good you find Ecopark suit your need and offer you a home, the important part is you satisfy for what you spend  smile.gif  anyhow, i can't comment on Ecopark as i don't follow the trend there, i am comparing 20x70 DSL in SA.
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yeah I know...you only look at house, not a homely environment...that's why you perceived AI is good buy.....

why buy so far away? Putra Heights 500k can't get meh?

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post Oct 12 2011, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 12 2011, 03:18 PM)
Btw, i only care about hard earn money,i dun care about your money...did i ask you not to buy? i only label it overprice and not justify, that's my point  wink.gif
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then I really "lost" on your intention.

you are in SA thread trying to promote AI? why?

I thought there is a dedicated AI thread? hmm.gif

To me AI is a write off from day1...... I rather buy Kajang than AI....
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post Oct 13 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 13 2011, 09:43 AM)
Hahaha.....what's my intention?...hmm, if i tell you if SA launch 24x85 @ 688k, i will queue in the sales office with my favourite pillow , toothpaste, 3 in 1 milo 3 days before soft launch, ,,,,now u tell me what is my intention?...hehe, hope i dun confuse u more.... tongue.gif
20x70@688k>  mad.gif
24x85@688k> drool.gif

Btw, u r the one ask me justify AI, there go my comment about AI, now u ask me back ?? check back ur post ohmy.gif
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again...this part i dun really understand.....

just because AI is offering bigger land at same high price with other development, then its becoming a desireable place to stay lioa?

there are reasons why SA can demand this price at smaller plot.....

but you choose to ignore these facts...but keep on selling AI....just because it offers a bigger house?

BTW, I am not here to sell SA.....i also couldn't care less if ppl wanna buy SA, DA or AI......i know my budget, and I know my expectation...
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post Oct 14 2011, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:53 AM)
IMO, amenities does not necessarily next to the house. if amenities are reachable within 5km and accessible w/o many traffic lights, it's considered good. Based on this, AI does meet this criteria due to its adjacent to Kota Kemuning and Tmn Sri Muda townships within 5km.....most amenities available in SA also the same in KK and easily accessible by AI residents. There also strong likelihood that an international school will set up in AI due to its large landbank.
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we should comment as if we are not vested.... rclxm9.gif
it could be 5km, but need to pay toll whoa each time......

ta pou breakfast, need to pay toll
drop children off school, need to pay toll
ta pou lunch, need to pay toll
pick up children from school, need to pay toll
ta pou dinner, need to pay toll

if after EPL game, wanna supper, need to pay toll......

BUT my so called argument is not about comparing this development and that development.....when buy a house, it's radically different from yester-years....you look at the whole master development, planned (and most importantly executed) amenities timely, access, value for money buy (not necessarily bigger and larger house), and priority these days, proper GnG.

if you have read the news of yet another robbery turned residents got killed in a car robbery outside your gate...in non GnG housing esate...2 days ago.....I rather live in 20x70 small bird cage GG home, then living in a 26x85 non GG superlinks.....it's just not worth it.

AI, being 50% bumi allocation, meaning the developer needs to cari the lost revenue from existing non-bumi lots, I wonder how they still can keep their margin going.....


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post Oct 14 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(venven81 @ Oct 14 2011, 09:45 AM)
sorry but don't mind me asking, which particular phase in SA is G&G? i mean link house and not semi-d. tq.
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precinct 6 is proper GnG. consists of mainly SMDs and superlinks...but their earlier launched so called superlinks were not that big...like 24x70 only.....

other precincts, 7 & 8 sold as non GG, but I see they have proper guard post and boomgate...also perimeter fencing (amidst looks fragile to me).....

better let SA residents to comment further......


Added on October 14, 2011, 10:01 amKemuning Utama, 20x70 (or it's 22x75), full GnG...not that much more xpensive than AI actually, if not cheaper.....

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post Oct 14 2011, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 10:29 AM)
aiyoyo, now i know why some1 like to bean counting w/o able to differentiate a tree from a forest....kekeke

staying in SA no need to pay toll, izzit? seems you have yet to see the entire AI........let's use hard facts and not imagination or perception

Fact 1: there is a back way in AI to go to Tmn Sri Muda and KK to do those daily stuff as you said without paying LKSA toll.
Fact 2 : for Pentas new launch, it will be guarded and likely to be fenced upon VP. Utimately AI will be FnG area. I currently staying in a FnG area and my siblings staying at fully GnG in famous sierxamxs. From statistics, break in and theft of the latter is worst than my current place. Some GnG is safer than FnG just a perception. Do you have evidence to substantiate the break-in cases in AI is higher than SA? 
Fact 3 : value is perceived differently by individual. You look at present value of SA and i look at future value of AI....pointless to debate this unless we revisit this thread 3 yrs later. This was the same debate 3 yrs ago SA vs PJ/Subang .
Fact 4 : 50% bumi allocation. So far no problem for AI and all phases sold out.....don;t discriminate here and i am colour blind. Btw, allow me to remind you SPS will soon become subsidiary of PNB.
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fact1: it's worth it to use back way just to tapoa chu yuk fan? yawn.gif
fact2: where you obtained the so called "statistics"? AI got statistics on break in cases one meh? As far as I know, you guys dun even have home owners association......
if guarded only, the entire SA under Setia is currently guarded also.
GnG is safer than FnG is not a perception. it's a theory.
I never quoted any break in cases comparing AI and SA. I was just referring to a robbery/murder case happened two days ago at one of the non GG housing estates.
fact3: value can be seem in 2 ways - monetary value and intangible value. I believe we are not even debating about which development will appreciate in monetary value in the future better. We are discussing on the emotional benefits for own stay.
fact4: that will be the problem - if AI all sold out....meaning 50% of the buyers are buying at 7% or 10% cheaper than the rest. Guess who is footing the bills for the discount? who discriminate? I think only our beloved govt practises discrimination here...not me. I am just quoting from known facts!
Subsidiary of PNB or not, SA already >50% developed.


Added on October 14, 2011, 12:06 pm
QUOTE(Apscen @ Oct 14 2011, 11:58 AM)
i am not even vested in AI nor SA, so stop talking bout i sell AI, i comment base on what AI offer, but i did visit SA regularly since my relative stay there, the living room so small that it doesn't even have extra space for a mahjong table after u put in sofa, dinning table...if you r not married, good enough for 2 persons, if you are family man, with 3-4 kids, will you happy to see your kids living in that cramp space, while you r working like shit daily to pay d 3k++ installment?  (i am talking about average joe salary here, if u earn 20k per month u can ignore.)
you have 3-4 kids and you want to play mahjong in the house?
how are they going to study in the house? worse still....live in terrace, wanna play mahjong? how do your neigbours take the noise?

taiko, you are talking abt 2200sq vs maybe 2600sq...a different of 400sq or thereabou nia......not like in AI you are going to get double the size or 50% extra size with the same amount of money.......

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post Oct 14 2011, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Oct 14 2011, 12:06 PM)
actually if emotional benefits for staying is the motion for debate here, i believe we can save the trouble here, AI has nothing now but vast empty land.
no whoa...according to the AI supporters here...AI GOT OPPORTUNITY, BIGGER HOUSE.....dun say they got nothing......

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:12 PM)
this thread slowly entering into holier-than-thou debate btw AI and SA......continuous arguing is wasting our time here and only piss off other forummers....let them read and judge

pointless for me to response to those alleged "facts" you mentioned although i can punch holes easily.......understand you are MBA qualified and i am very ïmpressed"with your "trained judgement and hollistic analysis".....kekeke!
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i agree. it's time wasting....

but you are embarking on personal attack......very tasteless... mad.gif
anywhere, it happens all the time in the forum...when ppl run out of value debating points, they tend to go for personal attack....
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post Oct 14 2011, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Oct 14 2011, 12:17 PM)
well of coz, AI still has like what, 6 phases to go. Second phase just in the beginning of launch (and this is still consider pilot phase).

theres no use comparing ammenities and living environment, even the trees are small.

so lets say if you want to invest, which one do you go for? for own stay, are you willing to pay for SA's premium (up to 30% with smaller land size), simple as that.
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i agree with you.....after like 6 or 7 years lioa now.....they are just starting to launch more...taking advantage of the BBB sentiment...

actually, for own say, i would rather buy those 20-30yrs older houses......in PJ.....
prices for both SA and AI are crazy....
but if gun pointed to head, I will take SA.....because AI is never on my list of house hunting......period.


Added on October 14, 2011, 12:26 pm
QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 14 2011, 12:21 PM)
give you compliment also kena hentam.... doh.gif .hehehe
Jet, I can read btw the line.....i ain't that stupid, just because I did buy anything in AI.... tongue.gif

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funny...if wifey is the one that made the decision....then why bother to kay-bo-che in the property forums?

another catch-no-ball remark....

gave up!
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post Oct 16 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(keane04 @ Oct 15 2011, 10:49 AM)
20x70 for 680k really hard to swallow. The more affordable ones will be the 20x70 by pkns but tat wil be 70% bumi quota.
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true....at this rate, SA is overpriced.....for a 20x70 home....you can actually get available subsales at a tad lower price for similar landplot.

having said so, it still doesn't mean AI is better buy, just because they priced the same as SA, but give you slightly bigger land plot, say 24x80 or 24x85......

if wanna buy AI, then no diff from buying Saujana Putra.....
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post Oct 16 2011, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 16 2011, 09:54 PM)
alamak  doh.gif ........... another "Mind Boggling Assumption" again by Mr Bean..... rclxub.gif  tongue.gif
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if you have done MBA (not saying you haven't), you surely know from chapter 101 of MBA is that there is no right or wrong answer for most opinions.

you don't necessarily have to agree with me, but by inserting sacratic remarks won't necessarily elevate your input to a higher level.

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post Oct 16 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 16 2011, 10:22 PM)
did i disagree with you?

your are such a 'great sage and astute investor' and your analysis makes my kepala spinning and catch-no-ball......clearly i am not up to your level  notworthy.gif
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please don't insult the intelligence of readers here....
we know how to read btw the lines.....

i never proclaim that I am an astute investor...i wasn't the one that claimed to have properties in SA and AI....
i am just sharing my opinions.....
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post Oct 16 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(uniglo @ Oct 16 2011, 10:39 PM)
Can consider Bandar Seri Coalfields. Just 18mins away from Setia Alam via Jalan Meru. This road will be widen in the future smile.gif
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since you are an agent, can share what is the distance from BSC to KLCC, and also to Mutiara Damansara?

18mins from Setia Alam, I can reach MD lioa from Setia Alam....on normal traffic, via NKVE....
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QUOTE(uniglo @ Oct 16 2011, 10:47 PM)
Please note I'm not an agent. I'm a staff of KL-Kepong Property smile.gif

Just thinking you might be interested to check out this township.

I give 'honest' timing compared to other people out there.

Timing also must consider a lot of other factors.

Best is to take a drive yourself and let me know what do you think smile.gif
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agent can be external or internal....sorry, I should have been more specified. biggrin.gif

we welcome your honest info...and it got to be, since you are presenting the development.

care to share the driving distance (in Km) from BSC to KLCC (main door) and BSC to MD via existing HWYs? because distance doesn't lie.....


Added on October 16, 2011, 11:03 pm
QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 16 2011, 10:57 PM)
like you, i am also sharing my views ....but adopting a reactive, non-argumentative and mild approach

perhaps the underlying truth hurts.....siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas
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Jet kor, I respect you......as an astute investor.....
in property investment, there is no truth.....only facts....

I am raising my white flag to "tou hong".....it aint bring more benefits to readers here if we continue with our further insertions......
it definitely won't benefit me at all.....

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