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post Apr 1 2015, 10:42 AM, updated 11y ago

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~AORUS X7 Thinnest, Lightest GTX SLI Gaming Laptop~

Due to retirement of [PF] T.J , New Laptop Recommendations thread V25 is up and this will probably be my last.
For those who are interested in continuing the effort, please feel free to contribute nod.gif

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This thread is specially made to offer laptop/tablet PC recommendations to EVERYONE
However, in order for us to recommend you with laptops/tablet PCs which suits you the most, we would require some basic information from you. Hence please kindly state your the following when posting:
1. Preferred Brand
2. Budget
3. Usage
4. Preferred laptop/screen size
With the help of the sifus here, we hope that you will be able to find the best laptop for your usage~
Happy Hunting!

Special thanks to sifu [PF] T.Jfor his previous thread. Thank you to all others who have helped.

The following are the links to the previous threads:
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This post has been edited by pandera999: Apr 1 2015, 10:45 AM
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TS's Comments:

The sifus and I have always wanted a specific section of the thread to recommend some of the more popular notebooks at a particular time, but sadly we never got the chance to do it since the lineups gets refreshed so rapidly that even we have problems catching up. Nevertheless, I would like to share my experiences with potential buyers on what you should look out for when you purchase your next notebook.

Of course, all opinions are my own, which are based on my 4 years experience here in recommending notebooks. I understand that different people have different priorities in choosing his/her notebook, and I have to admit that my priorities changed according to the years as well, so don't be surprised if yours do as well icon_rolleyes.gif

Some points that I would like to share with potential notebook buyers:
1. You get what you pay for, at least for all the mainstream notebooks. Much like everything else in the market, if you pay peanuts, all that you're going to get are peanuts. Most Malaysians tend to ask for notebooks with the best "bang-for-buck" or best performance for the price, which is not exactly a very viable option. There are many other aspects to look for in a good notebook (Point 2).
astria sifu once said: "They must've cut corners somewhere you don't see it to achieve such a low price."
lil kiasu: "Cheap no good, good no cheap."

2. Don't just look at the main specifications of the notebook (CPU, GPU and HDD). There are many other aspects of a notebook that you should look at, for example:
- do you like the design of the notebook?
- how's the warranty support for this notebook/brand?
- is the keyboard comfortable to type on?
- are the speakers good?
- is the audio/mic ports combined or separated?
- is the cooling system good?
- is it easy to access the inner parts of the notebook (For upgrades and maintenance)?
- does the touchpad suck?
- and a whole lot more etc. etc. etc.

Of course, there are a lot more points to ponder, and each person has a different priority in the features they want. Which is why we sifus always recommend potential buyers to check out the notebook before buying. If you are a gamer, don't buy a very powerful machine with a very bad cooling system! It's not going to end well...
In short, you don't need a notebook with the most powerful CPU or GPU for your budget, you need one that you like (design and ergonomics), one that fulfils your usage.

3. Don't buy based on the brand. People tend to generalize when it comes to brands- If his/her notebook sucks, then everything from that brand sucks. This is of course, inaccurate.
One has to understand that there will always be lemon units in electronic devices. Whether a notebook lasts or not depends on a little bit of luck, but a lot on user care!
Even the most premium brands out there are not free from defects.

"Is Asus or Lenovo better?", we get this kind of questions a lot.

Each brand has different lineups of notebooks, ranging from budget to premium to workstations to business notebooks etc. Of course, don't expect budget notebooks to be extremely reliable, and don't expect business notebooks to be cheap. Each lineup of notebooks were designed specifically to suit different niche of people.
Thus, know which category of notebook you are going for, and set your expectations accordingly.

4. Buy based on warranty support. Apparently after sales service wasn't a really big thing 2-3 years back, but things have changed. People now understand how frustrating it can be to send in their faulty notebooks to the respective shops/service centres themselves, then wait for up to 2 months laptop-less for repairs. And that's not it, some might even have to put up with bad customer service or recurring faultiness. In the end they wasted a lot of time, money and effort, and sometimes the notebooks ain't even fixed doh.gif
We are fortunate that some brands in Malaysia (Dell, Lenovo, HP, Toshiba, Fujitsu) took note of the problems we customers were facing, and provided on-site warranty support (they come to your place and fix your notebook within 1-2 business days) for certain lineups of their notebooks.
So far, only Dell offers on-site warranty to all their notebooks, with the option for warranty extension. This is a package that I would highly recommend to everyone, particularly students who do not have spare notebooks.

5. Do your research before buying. If you are reading this, then good for you. It's good to read up a bit on the notebook(s) you are interested in before you make the purchase. Not every notebook is perfect, each one will have its flaws, so it'll be good to read up reviews on them as well, and decide whether the drawbacks will affect your usage and ultimately your purchase.

Words of advice: (i) Avoid buying a newly released product which doesn't have any reviews yet. You might end up getting a notebook with universal problems (as in all models suffer from the same issue) which will give you a big headache. (ii) Avoid getting limited edition notebooks that are specific to a specific region of the world (South East Asia for our case), you will have problems getting proper warranty/technical support and spare parts.

6. Always compare Apple vs. Apple, Orange vs. Orange. This will probably earn me some hate from the fanboys, but if you are going to compare an Apple against a Windows-based notebook, please compare those of equivalent price-range or niche.
Too often do the sifus hear Apple users complaining that Windows-based notebooks are rubbish because apparently their RM1000 Windows netbook suck and their current RM5000 MacBook works miraculously well laugh.gif We sifus have no qualms with you comparing notebooks of different operating systems, as long as you are fair about it, and you are not spamming the thread with bashes and hate. However, whichever operating system/brands you choose, please do remember to take note of Point 2 and Point 4.

7. Shop people don't always know everything. In fact, I've only seen a handful of really competent and knowledgeable sellers in Lowyat plaza or during PC Fairs. Most of the shop sellers are part-timers trying to make a living, unlike the passionate forumers (not me, I'm actually a noob @__@) here who follow up on all the technological advancement just because they love it.

Some classic examples (I'm sure you've heard more if you did your research laugh.gif):
"No you are wrong, Nvidia GT730M is better than Nvidia GTX770M because its has more VRAM!"
"Sorry I don't know what is IPS, I will go and ask my superiors"

Shop people will say virtually anything, as long as you buy from them at the end of the day and the commissions go into their pockets. So make sure you do your homework first before you buy anything, unless if you don't mind being ripped off la laugh.gif But worry not, for we are here for you haha~

I guess that's all for now haha, finally some contributions to this thread laugh.gif
Hopefully the information here will help potential buyers find their ideal notebooks icon_rolleyes.gif

**From v24** look forward in v25 +GST

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Rules and Regulations

Please kindly read the 1st post, and FOLLOW THE FORMAT before posting!

** TO SELLER, PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS THREAD FOR PROMOTING YOUR OWN PRODUCT!! THIS IS RECOMMENDATION THREADS NOT PROMOTING . YOU CAN SUGGEST BUT NOT PROMOTING OWN PRODUCT WHICH IS KEEP BIAS TO OWN PRODUCT!!!

** Fanboyism is not allowed

** This is a recommendations thread, meaning its only for recommendations nod.gif If you need detailed comparisons between two or more notebooks, please open a new thread under Mobile Computing

** The sifus here are recommending based on what they think is best for your requirements and budget. In the end its up to you to decide which one you will buy

*** The sifus here are offering recommendations voluntarily (not paid) as we believe that by doing so, we could reduce the number of con cases; so please do show the sifus some respect

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post Apr 1 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Lil Kiasu @ Apr 1 2015, 12:09 PM)
Eh, Oswald kor kor handle new thread liao?? shocking.gif

What happen to kor kor Tan?? unsure.gif
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He wan married and retire lo.. but i will married soon, no ppl will handle v26... laugh.gif
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post Apr 1 2015, 05:06 PM

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1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - Below RM5000
3. Usage - For Work + Surfing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13 - 15" + Easy to Upgrade + Good Warranty Support

I am kind of like Dell XPS 15. Please comment/recommend. Thanks.


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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Apr 1 2015, 05:21 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - Below RM5000
3. Usage - For Work + Surfing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13 - 15" + Easy to Upgrade + Good Warranty Support

I am kind of like Dell XPS 15. Please comment/recommend. Thanks.
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Xps15 qhd better.. check my garage sales if u wan to see the spec..
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 1 2015, 12:14 PM)
He wan married and retire lo.. but i will married soon, no ppl will handle v26...  laugh.gif
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after married cannot handle meh? Wife too demanding ah.. hehe..
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 1 2015, 05:50 PM)
Xps15 qhd better.. check my garage sales if u wan to see the spec..
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Thanks bro. How about Asus Zenbook?

My friends complain a lot on Dell. Dunno why. sweat.gif
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preferred brand-asus or lenovo
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prefeered if easy to upgrade
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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Apr 1 2015, 06:06 PM)
Thanks bro. How about Asus Zenbook?

My friends complain a lot on Dell. Dunno why.  sweat.gif
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Well I think he must complaint bout win 8... n he dunno how to claim warranty...

Asus zenbook new 1 quite op.. 3rd gen 1 still nice.. ASUS 4th gen laptop quality drop alot...n they warranty sux... very sad case...
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QUOTE(Manada @ Apr 1 2015, 04:46 PM)
Hey guys I am looking for a laptop for college use. Some of my criteria are:

1. Preferred brand - Asus, Lenovo, HP, or Dell
2. Budget - RM2500 - 3000
3. College use
4. Screen size - 13 - 14 inches

Additional information:

Weight - below 2kg
Beautiful and sleek design.
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**Price due differ after GST implemented. have get updated price yet sweat.gif
Dell Vostro 3360, i5-3317U + Intel HD4000@RM2249[1.67kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W7HB; colors: red/silver/bronze
Split 13-M005TU x2 PC, i5-3339Y + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD + (1366x768;touch)@RM2899[2.22kg], 4GB, W8
ProBook 430 G1, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + (1366x768, anti-glare)@RM2399[1.5kg], 4GB, 500GB (5400rpm), W7P/W8P, 44WHr, spill-resistant keyboard

QUOTE(Prince J @ Apr 1 2015, 05:06 PM)
Congratz v25  rclxms.gif
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welcome notworthy.gif had take over since sifu Pj retire laugh.gif btw, Illegear z5 v2 specs is out? do give me the info ya

QUOTE(kokmengng @ Apr 1 2015, 05:21 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - Below RM5000
3. Usage - For Work + Surfing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13 - 15" + Easy to Upgrade + Good Warranty Support

I am kind of like Dell XPS 15. Please comment/recommend. Thanks.
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**Price due differ after GST implemented. have get updated price yet sweat.gif
do ur usage is heavy? i assume u need long battery life.

HP Elitebook Folio 1040 G1 G1F25PA - 14” Anti-Glare / i5-4200U / 4G / 256GB SSD / HD4400 / 1.49KG : RM4450/-
HP Probook 640 G1 F6B49PA - 14” Anti-Glare / i5-4300M / 4GB / 500GB 7200RPM / HD4600 / RM3320/-
Dell XPS 15 Touch – 15.6” FHD Touch / i5-4200H / 8GB / 500GB + 16GB Cache / Intel HD / W8.1 : RM4790/-
Dell Latitude E7440 Ultrabook – 14” A.G / i5-4310U / 4GB / 500GB / HD4400 / Dual Band Wireless-AC / W7Pro Preinstalled / 3Yrs NBD + 3 Yr Acc Dmg / 1.66kg : RM3920-
Ask for Extended Warranty
QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 1 2015, 05:51 PM)
after married cannot handle meh? Wife too demanding ah.. hehe..
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laugh.gif he busy with other things as well. Prof Madya bro...

QUOTE(compaqmd @ Apr 1 2015, 06:48 PM)
preferred brand-asus or lenovo
budget-2.3k to 2.7k
usage-gaming
prefeered if easy to upgrade
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**Price due differ after GST implemented. have get updated price yet sweat.gif
this is the best for u...
Asus N551ZU-DM022H – 15.6” FHD / AMD QC FX-7600P / 4GB / 1TB / AMD Radeon R9 M280X / WIN8.1 : RM2660/-
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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Apr 1 2015, 06:06 PM)
Thanks bro. How about Asus Zenbook?

My friends complain a lot on Dell. Dunno why.  sweat.gif
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complain about what? usually dell have good warranty services. good service after sales compare to asus.. asus zenbook also nice. seems xps is much better

QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 1 2015, 07:26 PM)
Mods should sticky this instead of the old one now rclxms.gif
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Hi Guys,

im looking for second gaming laptop, before i use razer 14, and give it to my little brother...
so.. could you please help me to choose my next gaming laptop

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM8000
3. Usage - Gaming
4. Preferred
+ screen size 15 - 17"
+ at least i can use 2 monitors.
+ dont care about the battery, dont care about the size.


thank you
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QUOTE(DeDeL213 @ Apr 1 2015, 08:12 PM)
Hi Guys,

im looking for second gaming laptop, before i use razer 14, and give it to my little brother...
so.. could you please help me to choose my next gaming laptop

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM8000
3. Usage - Gaming
4. Preferred
    + screen size 15 - 17"
    + at least i can use 2 monitors.
    + dont care about the battery, dont care about the size.
thank you
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i got these stock for u

alienware 15 wif gtx 980m RM 7999

alienware 17 wif mxm slot n radeon r9 RM 6999
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QUOTE(DeDeL213 @ Apr 1 2015, 08:12 PM)
Hi Guys,

im looking for second gaming laptop, before i use razer 14, and give it to my little brother...
so.. could you please help me to choose my next gaming laptop

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM8000
3. Usage - Gaming
4. Preferred
    + screen size 15 - 17"
    + at least i can use 2 monitors.
    + dont care about the battery, dont care about the size.
thank you
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wow, i bet u better take 17" laugh.gif very high end card.
you might want very high end laptop 17" i suggest you
ILLEGEAR RS-17 EVO, specs
best bang for bucks thumbup.gif RM7,299
refer to the link, you can customised the notebook too. if u need help, anytime can pm nod.gif
QUOTE(Manada @ Apr 1 2015, 08:19 PM)
Thanks man. But I am also looking forward for macbook air 13 inches for around RM3800. Do you think it is worth it?
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well, if there is, why not laugh.gif but do compare the specs too, because your work & needs will depends with the specs of the notebook u buy too

QUOTE(DotaGamer @ Apr 1 2015, 09:20 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - below RM2000
3. Usage - for studies
4. Preferred
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hp Pavilion 14-V011TX, i5-4210U + Nvidia GT830M@RM1999[BeatsAudio][1.98kg], 4GB, 1TB, W8.1; colors: silver/white/red brows.gif good speaker for listening to music while study
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QUOTE(DeDeL213 @ Apr 1 2015, 08:12 PM)
Hi Guys,

im looking for second gaming laptop, before i use razer 14, and give it to my little brother...
so.. could you please help me to choose my next gaming laptop

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM8000
3. Usage - Gaming
4. Preferred
    + screen size 15 - 17"
    + at least i can use 2 monitors.
    + dont care about the battery, dont care about the size.
thank you
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ILLEGEAR RS 17 Evo or D7. If you want 15'' then RS 15 or D5.
Both are MXM slot and better price spec ratio. (I'm talking about gtx980m variant)
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 1 2015, 07:51 PM)
**Price due differ after GST implemented. have get updated price yet 
**Price due differ after GST implemented. have get updated price yet  sweat.gif
do ur usage is heavy? i assume u need long battery life.

HP Elitebook Folio 1040 G1 G1F25PA - 14” Anti-Glare / i5-4200U / 4G / 256GB SSD / HD4400 / 1.49KG : RM4450/-
HP Probook 640 G1 F6B49PA - 14” Anti-Glare / i5-4300M / 4GB / 500GB 7200RPM / HD4600 /  RM3320/-
Dell XPS 15 Touch – 15.6” FHD Touch / i5-4200H / 8GB / 500GB + 16GB Cache / Intel HD / W8.1 : RM4790/-
Dell Latitude E7440 Ultrabook – 14” A.G / i5-4310U / 4GB / 500GB / HD4400 / Dual Band Wireless-AC / W7Pro Preinstalled / 3Yrs NBD + 3 Yr Acc Dmg / 1.66kg : RM3920-
Ask for Extended Warranty
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Thanks bro. Do you sell these models or you are just recommending. Hehehe

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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Apr 1 2015, 11:33 PM)
Thanks bro. Do you sell these models or you are just recommending. Hehehe
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you can try ask these few sellers here. very reliable and trusted seller. try nego any1 of them.

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 2 2015, 07:58 AM)
you can try ask these few sellers here.  very reliable and trusted seller. try nego any1 of them.

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those r old timer seller... only putochip r active as last time I think...
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 1 2015, 10:45 PM)
ILLEGEAR RS 17 Evo or D7. If you want 15'' then RS 15 or D5.
Both are MXM slot and better price spec ratio. (I'm talking about gtx980m variant)
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True, aw15 wif gtx 980m already 7999... freaking crazy price(u will rofl if u heard the profit, lower than Inspiron)...I think I need to stock up some Aw wif mxm de...
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 2 2015, 07:58 AM)
you can try ask these few sellers here.  very reliable and trusted seller. try nego any1 of them.

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Thanks bro for very useful tips there. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(DotaGamer @ Apr 1 2015, 09:20 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - below RM2000
3. Usage - for studies
4. Preferred
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Currently we’ve 2 specs as follows:-

1) Dual Core (32Gb) : RRP1,899
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hi..need recommendation on laptop

1. Preferred Brand - asus lenovo (other can)
2. Budget - 3 to 3.5k
3. Usage - gaming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size 14-15

thanks

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Hi sifus, need some recommendation on buying an ULTRABOOK:


1. Preferred Brand: anything
2. Budget: RM3500 or lower
3. Usage: daily office works, reading journals, some light to medium simulations, light youtube, etc
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 13"
4. very lightweight, battery life >8hours, prefer ultrabooks using SSD for faster startup
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Hmmmm, i found Lenovo ThinkPad T440s sound promising. Any comment from sifu2 here?
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QUOTE(kokmengng @ Apr 2 2015, 05:14 PM)
Hmmmm, i found Lenovo ThinkPad T440s sound promising. Any comment from sifu2 here?
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go check the display at digital mall.. only thinkpad in lenovo got onsite service like dell

but t440 quite old i think.. they upgrade the spec?
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QUOTE(rock_world @ Apr 2 2015, 04:13 PM)
hi..need recommendation on laptop

1. Preferred Brand - asus lenovo (other can)
2. Budget - 3 to 3.5k
3. Usage - gaming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size 14-15

thanks
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Pure Quad Core for gaming compare intel ultra voltage get this
Asus N551ZU-DM022H – 15.6” FHD / AMD QC FX-7600P / 4GB / 1TB / AMD Radeon R9 M280X / WIN8.1


Asus G551JM-DM052H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 4GB / 1TB / GTX860 2GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : - (Republic of Gamers)
Lenovo Y40-80 80FA000JMJ – 14” FHD / I7-5500U / 4GB / Hybrid 1TB / ATI VENUS XTX R9 M275 2GB / W8.1 :
Lenovo Y40-80 80FA001PMJ – 14” FHD / I7-5500U / 4GB / Hybrid 500GB / AMD Radeon R9-M275 2GB / DOS :
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Hmmmm, i found Lenovo ThinkPad T440s sound promising. Any comment from sifu2 here?
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 2 2015, 05:16 PM)
go check the display at digital mall.. only thinkpad in lenovo got onsite service like dell

but t440 quite old i think.. they upgrade the spec?
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Thinkpad T440P 20AWA1JTMY – 14” / i5-4300M / 4GB / 1TB + 16GB MSSD / Intel HD 4600
Thinkpad T440P 20AWA1JSMY – 14” / i7-4710MQ / 4GB / 1TB 16GB MSSD / Intel HD4600

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Quite low... xps15 better spec...
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go check the display at digital mall.. only thinkpad in lenovo got onsite service like dell

but t440 quite old i think.. they upgrade the spec?
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The new model T450S just announced in CES2015. Not sure when will it be available here. Hehehe.
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The new model T450S just announced in CES2015. Not sure when will it be available here. Hehehe.
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Wat the new spec? 5th gen dual core better dun buy..  no significant different from 4th gen yet
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2. RM3k including GST lol, but if your laptop that you suggest something cheap is also ok because my usage is very little
3. HEAVY web browsing, many tabs of microsft words and also PDFs/EPUB. In short writing/reading related task. Going to play games just like starcraft or perhaps diablo if I want to. aaaand also awesome battery life + light laptop. i5 and 4gb ram will be ok
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Dual core.... get xps better.. got GPU somemore...unless u willing wait for precision m3800
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3. HEAVY web browsing, many tabs of microsft words and also PDFs/EPUB. In short writing/reading related task. Going to play games just like starcraft or perhaps diablo if I want to. aaaand also awesome battery life + light laptop. i5 and 4gb ram will be ok
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im looking for second gaming laptop, before i use razer 14, and give it to my little brother...
so.. could you please help me to choose my next gaming laptop

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM8000
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DELL ALIENWARE 17 LAPTOP
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Genuine Windows 8.1 Home 64bit
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Slot-Loading Dvd
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M with 4GB GDDR5
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Alienware 17 Anodized Aluminum
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Alienhead 3D / AlienFX AQUA
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Too OP already I think. 6k get gtx970m better. The RAM is 4x4, later want change to 32gb or more need change a lot, if is 2x8 then good XD
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Too OP already I think. 6k get gtx970m better. The RAM is 4x4, later want change to 32gb or more need change a lot, if is 2x8 then good XD
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Bro, expensive processor n gst I hv to bare....n this model easier to change ram than m17xr4... N I dun think tat 6k of illegear include onsite pick up lo.

prince J u come judge la.. 6k for aw17 wif gtx 780m n i7-4900mq izzit really OP...

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 3 2015, 02:05 PM)
Bro, expensive processor n gst I hv to bare....n this model easier to change ram than m17xr4... N I dun think tat 6k of illegear include onsite pick up lo.

princeJ u come judge la.. 6k for aw17 wif gtx 780m n i7-4900mq izzit really OP...
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I didn't say illegear cheap lar sleep.gif Please don't simply judge me.
What I mean is better get 970m ma, since you're buying the laptop for gaming. Ram won't matter much now though. CPU not so big deal cause not a lot of game is not using CPU intensely. (I just know BF4 64 man maps is cpu intense)
Got new AW which you can get 970m with that price, even though no MXM and support up to 16gb ram only.

P/S: I seldom suggest ppl illegear already you know. It looks like it's not the only option for good price spec ratio already.

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 3 2015, 04:28 PM)
I didn't say illegear cheap lar sleep.gif Please don't simply judge me.
What I mean is better get 970m ma, since you're buying the laptop for gaming. Ram won't matter much now though. CPU not so big deal cause not a lot of game is not using CPU intensely. (I just know BF4 64 man maps is cpu intense)
Got new AW which you can get 970m with that price, even though no MXM and support up to 16gb ram only.

P/S: I seldom suggest ppl illegear already you know. It looks like it's not the only option for good price spec ratio already.
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bro, 4720hq n 4900mq big gap... different almost 1k for processor alone... mxm slot units very valuable now... n the new aw build quality i personally think not so good... plastic plastic.. i only promote new aw wif gtx 980m...

pls try send in a enquiry to dell then u know how much they will charge u... dell itself really slaughter house...my price already super cheap de.. go mudah all u see how much they put there

dehttp://www.dell.com/my/p/alienware-17-r2/pd?flyingspaghettimonster=PD_OC do the customization n see.. tat wat call a real OP.. cincai cross 10k.. mad dell..

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bro, 4720hq n 4900mq big gap... different almost 1k for processor alone... mxm slot units very valuable now...  n the new aw build quality i personally think not so good... plastic plastic.. i only promote new aw wif gtx 980m...

pls try send in a enquiry to dell then u know how much they will charge u... dell itself really slaughter house...my price already super cheap de.. go mudah all u see how much they put there

dehttp://www.dell.com/my/p/alienware-17-r2/pd?flyingspaghettimonster=PD_OC do the customization n see.. tat wat call a real OP.. cincai cross 10k.. mad dell..
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Well I agree. 4720 and 4900 has big gap, but is it necessary ? 780m and 970m price different is also 1k+, not to mention about MXM type will be even more expensive.
It depends on your standard of valuable. Manufacturer is trying to obsolete MXM from the market so they feels than soldered unit got more "sales" value. I feel it is valuable because there are very limited unit in the market.
I just feel that may be there is better option, which the penny spent is worth every cent without having something which is too overpowered but not necessary.
Sorry lar if I did or sound offending to you sweat.gif
I will stop commenting about people choices from now. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(DeDeL213 @ Apr 1 2015, 08:12 PM)
Hi Guys,

im looking for second gaming laptop, before i use razer 14, and give it to my little brother...
so.. could you please help me to choose my next gaming laptop

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM8000
3. Usage - Gaming
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    + at least i can use 2 monitors.
    + dont care about the battery, dont care about the size.
thank you
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Hi DeDeL213,

Your sweetspot for an 8k gaming notebook would be the GT72 2QD from MSI.

MSI GT72 2QD Dominator Pro @RM7,699
Intel i7-4720HQ
Nvidia 970M 3GB GDDR5
1TB (SATA) 7200RPM with option to add on 4 SSD for SuperRaid configuration

Screen size is 17'3in and can output to 3 monitors.

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 3 2015, 05:53 PM)
Well I agree. 4720 and 4900 has big gap, but is it necessary ? 780m and 970m price different is also 1k+, not to mention about MXM type will be even more expensive.
It depends on your standard of valuable. Manufacturer is trying to obsolete MXM from the market so they feels than soldered unit got more "sales" value. I feel it is valuable because there are very limited unit in the market.
I just feel that may be there is better option, which the penny spent is worth every cent without having something which is too overpowered but not necessary.
Sorry lar if I did or sound offending to you sweat.gif
I will stop commenting about people choices from now.  notworthy.gif
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since u know the manufacturer purpose of kicking out mxm then u should know y mxm high price lo....someone told me the mxm n soldered mobo manufacturing price is almost half... no wonder they so eager to kick out mxm...

780m > 970m i think no point... wif the extreme processor... mind as well safe money n straight 980m... waiting e_mc_square to quote me the 980m...

to be honest.. do u really need the latest gpu... my fren just built a new rig wif sli 980... 2 weeks later titan X come out... u cannot chase IT stuffs... get wat u need if budget enough...

the aw17 i7-4900mq not really new not really old.. yes the gtx 780m is almost 2years (end of 2013) but still work for most games... this unit may not be ur best bang of penny becoz not gtx 970m... but is definitely underpriced
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 3 2015, 06:51 PM)
since u know the manufacturer purpose of kicking out mxm then u should know y mxm high price lo....someone told me the mxm n soldered mobo manufacturing price is almost half... no wonder they so eager to kick out mxm...

780m > 970m i think no point... wif the extreme processor... mind as well safe money n straight 980m... waiting e_mc_square to quote me the 980m...

to be honest.. do u really need the latest gpu... my fren just built a new rig wif sli 980... 2 weeks later titan X come out... u cannot chase IT stuffs... get wat u need if budget enough...

the aw17 i7-4900mq not really new not really old.. yes the gtx 780m is almost 2years (end of 2013) but still work for most games... this unit may not be ur best bang of penny becoz not gtx 970m... but is definitely underpriced
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Well yea. That's why I afraid there is a time when MXM is completely out of the market. Then you gonna waste your money as you won't be getting any supposed upgrade option already.
I am leaning toward better gpu than extreme cpu, not both. I will go for gtx970m because I would like to play Far Cry 4, Witcher 3, StarCitizen etc etc on high settings and 1080p.

You also said there is no point in getting latest spec, why getting extreme cpu when it is not even needed ? at least GPU can helps you to play high demanding game on a good settings, while extreme cpu hardly will benefit. (it can benefit on some games, but comparing it with gpu, a better gpu brings more benefit than cpu itself)

Your friend built 980 sli most probably is because he want to game on 4k. If not he is just damn rich. Single 980 is sufficient for almost all game in 1080p. The reason to go for high end is because it will definitely last you long enough to play almost all games in high settings 1080p or above. CPU is essential of course, but not as important when compared to gpu in term of gaming.

I just feel that, from my point of view, if it is given the same price of both old and new gpu, I will go for the new one. Especially the new one generate lesser heat and draw lesser power.

Edit : Maybe the reason it is underpriced is because the initial base price is already overpriced ? haha (I'm joking.. don't take it too serious smile.gif)

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Well yea. That's why I afraid there is a time when MXM is completely out of the market. Then you gonna waste your money as you won't be getting any supposed upgrade option already.
I am leaning toward better gpu than extreme cpu, not both. I will go for gtx970m because I would like to play Far Cry 4, Witcher 3, StarCitizen etc etc on high settings and 1080p.

You also said there is no point in getting latest spec, why getting extreme cpu when it is not even needed ? at least GPU can helps you to play high demanding game on a good settings, while extreme cpu hardly will benefit. (it can benefit on some games, but comparing it with gpu, a better gpu brings more benefit than cpu itself)

Your friend built 980 sli most probably is because he want to game on 4k. If not he is just damn rich. Single 980 is sufficient for almost all game in 1080p. The reason to go for high end is because it will definitely last you long enough to play almost all games in high settings 1080p or above. CPU is essential of course, but not as important when compared to gpu in term of gaming.

I just feel that, from my point of view, if it is given the same price of both old and new gpu, I will go for the new one. Especially the new one generate lesser heat and draw lesser power.

Edit : Maybe the reason it is underpriced is because the initial base price is already overpriced ? haha (I'm joking.. don't take it too serious smile.gif)
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my fren father is the senior manager for coca cola asia.. wat do u think... haha.. build tat rig for his coll work... laugh die me.. coz he dun even know how to unlock hdd...u r right tat 900 series generate less heat... n 800 series is freaking hot... but 780m oso not tat hot ok...

well for gamer u should go for better gpu.. but tat 4900mq allow multipurpose lo.. at least i dun need scare an excel file will make my quad core run at max... it happen to 1 of my client who bought aw14 from me... i7 4700mq run at max for an excel file....
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 3 2015, 07:54 PM)
my fren father is the senior manager for coca cola asia.. wat do u think... haha.. build tat rig for his coll work... laugh die me.. coz he dun even know how to unlock hdd...u r right tat 900 series generate less heat... n 800 series is freaking hot... but 780m oso not tat hot ok...

well for gamer u should go for better gpu.. but tat 4900mq allow multipurpose lo.. at least i dun need scare an excel file will make my quad core run at max... it happen to 1 of my client who bought aw14 from me... i7 4700mq run at max for an excel file....
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See. This is the world we're living in. Those who don't know how to unlock HDD can manage to get 980 SLI rig. Those who know and needed the rig can't even get a single 980. haha

800 series is not as hot as previous series. At least for maxwell variant. Kepler is hotter. So I can assume 780m is hotter than 860m. But you can't really compare a high end gpu (at least at that time) with a budget one. Of course high end one will generate more heat sweat.gif

I think it is the user fault lar. How to max out a quad core processor with excel file ? I didn't heard of it before. I heard of insufficient of RAM due to too large data size but not this. If it is related to the excel/data file size, most probably is he/she didn't do normalization lo, just dump everything into the file sure will encounter issue when the file become big.
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See. This is the world we're living in. Those who don't know how to unlock HDD can manage to get 980 SLI rig. Those who know and needed the rig can't even get a single 980. haha

800 series is not as hot as previous series. At least for maxwell variant. Kepler is hotter. So I can assume 780m is hotter than 860m. But you can't really compare a high end gpu (at least at that time) with a budget one. Of course high end one will generate more heat sweat.gif

I think it is the user fault lar. How to max out a quad core processor with excel file ? I didn't heard of it before. I heard of insufficient of RAM due to too large data size but not this. If it is related to the excel/data file size, most probably is he/she didn't do normalization lo, just dump everything into the file sure will encounter issue when the file become big.
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bro u got no idea how big his excel file.... canon malaysia account team ppl.. his excel file by GBs... the coding he use by hundred i think.. haha
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4. Preferred

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if u insist on tat.. asus rog lo.. or illegear z5
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bro u got no idea how big his excel file.... canon malaysia account team ppl.. his excel file by GBs... the coding he use by hundred i think.. haha
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That is why I said split the data and perform normalization lo. Ya i have seen it before. In MIMOS you can even see bigger file. lol
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 3 2015, 08:55 PM)
bro u got no idea how big his excel file.... canon malaysia account team ppl.. his excel file by GBs... the coding he use by hundred i think.. haha
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excel have a very small hard cap on number of data and people would be using a MS_Access or actually a database instead of excel for such data what more a MNC company (which would have service solutions)...
don't simply sprout stuff just to sell your product =.="
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 3 2015, 09:35 PM)
excel have a very small hard cap on number of data and people would be using a MS_Access or actually a database instead of excel for such data what more a MNC company (which would have service solutions)...
don't simply sprout stuff just to sell your product =.="
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U wan Mr. Wong Number to clarify....
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That is why I said split the data and perform normalization lo. Ya i have seen it before. In MIMOS you can even see bigger file. lol
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Ic.... he just told me wat he went thru lo... does the stupid 5400rpm HDD affect the speed? I means excel... becoz after change to SSD the thing no more... smooth..

The biggest I saw was 6GB... by ex account director of dynabook group... include cart n projection...was tat my error or something else..

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U wan Mr. Wong Number to clarify....
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https://support.office.com/en-nz/article/Ex...27-269d656771c3

i rest my case.
any1 who ever handled large data, what more MNCs would know to never ever use Excel (no IT solutions in their sane mind would ever recommend it).
no point arguing with someone who do not even know the existence of a hard cap in excel doh.gif

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https://support.office.com/en-nz/article/Ex...27-269d656771c3

i rest my case.
any1 who ever handled large data, what more MNCs would know to never ever use Excel (no IT solutions in their sane mind would ever recommend it).
no point arguing with someone who do not even know the existence of a hard cap in excel  doh.gif
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I dunno he know or not... out of my reach... but u dun expect a 50+ uncle to know wat u know.. later he say eat salt more than u eat rice...

I never use Excel in my working life so I really dunno hard cap...
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Ic.... he just told me wat he went thru lo... does the stupid 5400rpm HDD affect the speed? I means excel... becoz after change to SSD the thing no more... smooth..

The biggest I saw was 6GB... by ex account director of dynabook group... include cart n projection...was tat my error or something else..
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file IO uses the disc much more than the processor (close to 0 processor usage), so there is ur answer.
in excel, the processor only comes in during calculations.
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file IO uses the disc much more than the processor (close to 0 processor usage), so there is ur answer.
in excel, the processor only comes in during calculations.
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Get illegear s5... MSI low end better use to book omelette
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How is the price of s5 consider low end for MSI? rclxub.gif shocking.gif
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How much is s5?  doh.gif
How is the price of s5 consider low end for MSI?  rclxub.gif      shocking.gif
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How much is s5?  doh.gif
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 4 2015, 12:46 AM)
Msi u nees get GT series n above.. however.. MSI r more OP than dell coz their after sales no.1 in Malaysia... from the bottom...
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Do you guys mean z5?  shakehead.gif Is it good? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 3 2015, 10:22 PM)
file IO uses the disc much more than the processor (close to 0 processor usage), so there is ur answer.
in excel, the processor only comes in during calculations.
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Ikr, this is the first time I heard cpu affect excel. sweat.gif Well there do have company who is still using excel file to have their data stored and accessed. Even oil and gas company is using it. One of the reason they choose to do this is because it is cheaper compared to business solution like CMS. Most complete CMS in the market cost quite some money, which they find it not necessary. Even some of MIMOS data is using excel to do it, including semantic web data. My friend intern at there, his first job is to do data cleaning, damn sad sweat.gif

Of course they did it in a good way, with normalization and splitting of data into different file and not dumping everything in one file doh.gif

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 3 2015, 11:07 PM)
So the noob 5400rpm does kacau la... my core 2 duo back in hometown almost hang when my mum do excel.. now it explained... her sifu in excel dunno y it like tat too
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Disk speed and amount of RAM affect it. The slower your HDD, the slower you load in your data, so you see a hang or lag when you open the file. RAM also affect, when your data is so big, you just got 4gb of ram, there is not enough ram to keep hold of your data, so you will face the same things again. So next time check first before assuming the thing like extreme cpu is needed. smile.gif
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Do you guys mean z5?  shakehead.gif Is it good? biggrin.gif
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S5 have better upgrade-ability than Z5.
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Ikr, this is the first time I heard cpu affect excel. sweat.gif Well there do have company who is still using excel file to have their data stored and accessed. Even oil and gas company is using it. One of the reason they choose to do this is because it is cheaper compared to business solution like CMS. Most complete CMS in the market cost quite some money, which they find it not necessary. Even some of MIMOS data is using excel to do it, including semantic web data. My friend intern at there, his first job is to do data cleaning, damn sad sweat.gif

Of course they did it in a good way, with normalization and splitting of data into different file and not dumping everything in one file doh.gif
Disk speed and amount of RAM affect it. The slower your HDD, the slower you load in your data, so you see a hang or lag when you open the file. RAM also affect, when your data is so big, you just got 4gb of ram, there is not enough ram to keep hold of your data, so you will face the same things again. So next time check first before assuming the thing like extreme cpu is needed. smile.gif
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different case... the hang is mine not my client... wat I mean for the extreme processor is multipurpose laptop... not only gaming

N our Fren there rich kid.. everything must get the best... haha

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different case... the hang is mine not my client... wat I mean for the extreme processor is multipurpose laptop... not only gaming

N our Fren there rich kid.. everything must get the best... haha
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That's the point. What you intend to do with extreme processor. A normal 4720HQ will do the job just fine. You quite of contradict yourself. Everything want to get the best, but why not GPU ? haha
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That's the point. What you intend to do with extreme processor. A normal 4720HQ will do the job just fine. You quite of contradict yourself. Everything want to get the best, but why not GPU ? haha
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Hey guys I am looking for a laptop for college use. Some of my criteria are:

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just bought hp pavillion laptop cost me RM1699. i5 spec, 4gb ram, 500hdd, and radeoun graphic. preloaded with win8.1. is it worth it?
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just bought hp pavillion laptop cost me RM1699. i5 spec, 4gb ram, 500hdd, and radeoun graphic. preloaded with win8.1. is it worth it?
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EDIT : My only concern is how did you get it at such a low price. hmm.gif , being a HP and i5

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Seems fine to me if you doing basic stuff (Surfing web, watching movies and light gaming.)

EDIT : My only concern is how did you get it at such a low price.  hmm.gif , being a HP and i5
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looking at lightweight laptops with i7 , 8gb ram with ssd. on lenovo came down to Y40-80 , Z50-70. Asus still need recommendation .
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Sifus pls reccomend,

1. Preferred Brand
anything will be fine

2. Budget
RM2500-3000

3. Usage
a) 20-50 tabs on Google chrome + 2-5 adobe pdf reader opened + Spotify + 1-2 excel. Everything at the same time
b) not going to play vidya games
c) Movies

4. Preferred laptop/screen size
a) screen size 13-14
b) processor(as long I can use without lag for another 2 years ok already)
c) RAM 4GB minimum
d) graphic card, doesn't matter. Not playing video games anyways, as long can play 1080p video ok oredi
e) LIGHTWEIGHT (1KG-1.6kg)
f) 256gb ssd

5. What I have in my mind, but can add some suggestion too
a) Dell Vostro 5480(touch) RM2808, RM2543 non touch
pros: 1.53kg, i5 5200U, fancy graphic card
cons: 4gb ram, 500GB 5400 rpm SATA Hybrid Hard Drive with 8GB Cache(I want full SSD) sad.gif
not sure: how many slow of rams and also if the ram and hdd is soldered inside sad.gif if not maybe I want to buy an extra RAM and change to SDD biggrin.gifD

b) ASUS UX305
pros: VERY LIGHT, 8GB RAM, looks cool
cons: Pentium M sad.gif


tl;dr I want a 13-14 inch ultrabook that does not lag when I open 30-50 chrome tabs

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:05 PM)
Sifus pls reccomend,

1. Preferred Brand
anything will be fine

2. Budget
RM2500-3000

3. Usage
a) 20-50 tabs on Google chrome + 2-5 adobe pdf reader opened + Spotify + 1-2 excel. Everything at the same time
b) not going to play vidya games
c) Movies

4. Preferred laptop/screen size
a) screen size 13-14
b) processor(as long I can use without lag for another 2 years ok already)
c) RAM 4GB minimum
d) graphic card, doesn't matter. Not playing video games anyways, as long can play 1080p video ok oredi
e) LIGHTWEIGHT (1KG-1.6kg)
f) 256gb ssd

tl;dr I want a 13-14 inch ultrabook that does not lag when I open 30-50 chrome tabs
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I suggest increase the amount of RAM instead of 4GB because of the amount of tabs your are using. I say 8GB and above (i don't even think 8Gb of RAM is enough for you. Get a second opinion on this.)
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 12:16 PM)
I suggest increase the amount of RAM instead of 4GB because of the amount of tabs your are using. I say 8GB and above (i don't even think 8Gb of RAM is enough for you. Get a second opinion on this.)
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http://www.dell.com/my/p/vostro-14-5480-la...timonster=PD_OC

thinking of getting this and then sell the 4gb ram and get an 8gb one hmm.gif

http://omglaptop.com/laptop/upgrade-hard-d...eplace-battery/

if it is possible lah

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:19 PM)
http://www.dell.com/my/p/vostro-14-5480-la...timonster=PD_OC

thinking of getting this and then sell the 4gb ram and get an 8gb one  hmm.gif

http://omglaptop.com/laptop/upgrade-hard-d...eplace-battery/

if it is possible lah
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Vostro line up is a budget business class laptop. So, i think it is fine but doesn't have the SSD that you required.

How about this? Some extra choices but Asus after sales service is very bad.

http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/asu...rated-w8-1.html

EDIT : ASUS proc will not be as powerful as the DELL.

EDIT EDIT: Just realise your edit. Haha, if you get the non touch version of the DELL, the extra RM500 you can get yourself a 256 GB SSD and upgrade the RAM but will be over budget abit >>RM3000.

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 12:24 PM)
Vostro line up is a budget business class laptop. So, i think it is fine but doesn't have the SSD that you required.

How about this? Some extra choices but Asus after sales service is very bad.

http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/asu...rated-w8-1.html

EDIT : ASUS proc will not be as powerful as the DELL.
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looking at lightweight laptops with i7 , 8gb ram with ssd. on lenovo came down to Y40-80 , Z50-70. Asus still need recommendation .
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Lenovo tat 1 wif tn panel or IPS? If tn panel better take ASUS
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this is the part where I wish that I am rich and just buy the new XPS 13 sad.gif

is Pentium M enough? that is the question  rclxub.gif
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To be honest y dun choose 7447.. quad core n full HD....

I think vostro only 1 ram slot... so far hvnt see dual channel... anybody got it?

1.6 n 2.4kg not alot different le... carry 17 inch Baru painful... but performance different la

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To be honest y dun choose 7447.. quad core n full HD....

I think vostro only 1 ram slot... so far hvnt see dual channel... anybody got it?
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Is it light?
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To be honest y dun choose 7447.. quad core n full HD....

I think vostro only 1 ram slot... so far hvnt see dual channel... anybody got it?
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Weight is the problem for him. Max is 1.6 KG. He is interested in the DELL Vostro 5480.


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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:35 PM)
Is it light?
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Is it light?
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It is around 2.3 KG for 7447.

I don't think Core M performance is good for your multi tasking work load looking at benchmarks. So i suggest the DELL.
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Weight is the problem for him. Max is 1.6 KG. He is interested in the DELL Vostro 5480.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 12:37 PM)
It is around 2.3 KG for 7447.

I don't think Core M performance is good for your multi tasking work load looking at benchmarks. So i suggest the DELL.
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I know.. but vostro 5480 almost cannot upgrade.. n I can tell u the heat will make it slow... does it even hv a fan in tat thin casing...
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If i'm not mistaken. He can upgrade the HDD to SSD and the RAM to max 8GB. Should be sufficient but not quite sure since the amount of tabs he is opening at once. If he don't mind some increase in weight to around 2KG then he has alot more option to consider.

If not mistaken again the Vostro is using the ULV proc. So the heat management should be OK but looking at how thin it is, it might get hot abit but not to the extreme.
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:41 PM)
u n y series worst in multitasking... m is better.. but core m is slow..
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I always thought Atom < M < i3 < i5 < i7. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 12:42 PM)
If i'm not mistaken. He can upgrade the HDD to SSD and the RAM to max 8GB. Should be sufficient but not quite sure since the amount of tabs he is opening at once. If he don't mind some increase in weight to around 2KG then he has alot more option to consider.

If not mistaken again the Vostro is using the ULV proc. So the heat management should be OK but looking at how thin it is, it might get hot abit but not to the extreme.
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ram max 1 x 8GB kua... dell not working todaY. Can't ask them.. but I always against vostro... wif tat price tag I rather take latitude.. more tahan.. 2800RM.. I can get latitude i7 de
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:48 PM)
ram max 1 x 8GB kua... dell not working todaY. Can't ask them.. but I always against vostro... wif tat price tag I rather take latitude.. more tahan.. 2800RM.. I can get latitude i7 de
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Post the latitude model and spec with budget of RM3000. Looks interesting. Yes latitude is better from what I have read.
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I always thought Atom < M < i3 < i5 < i7.  hmm.gif
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Tat is speed rite...clock speed of coz I5 better... But ULV known bad for multitasking... tat y I say m better for "multitasking" only... but speed slow...
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Post the latitude model and spec with budget of RM3000. Looks interesting. Yes latitude is better from what I have read.
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Latitude e7440 I was selling RM3200 max... e6540 / 6440 wif ati oso 3k only
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:51 PM)
Tat is speed rite...clock speed of coz I5 better... But ULV known bad for multitasking... tat y I say m better for "multitasking" only... but speed slow...
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I don't think it is about the clock speed. You can find benchmarks for i5 and i7 with same clock speed but i7 performs better.
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I don't think it is about the clock speed. You can find benchmarks for i5 and i7 with same clock speed but i7 performs better.
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Well... we not expert in tat rite... but I oso suggest PPL take i7 most of the time if their budget allows... i5 is lukewarm... not fastest nor slow... tat wat I dun like
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:59 PM)
Well... we not expert in tat rite... but I oso suggest PPL take i7 most of the time if their budget allows... i5 is lukewarm... not fastest nor slow... tat wat I dun like
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2.4kg.. it won't kill u...
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won't kill me but after 2-3 months I would have wish that I have an ultrabook sad.gif

that is why it is very important for me sad.gif

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 12:42 PM)
If i'm not mistaken. He can upgrade the HDD to SSD and the RAM to max 8GB. Should be sufficient but not quite sure since the amount of tabs he is opening at once. If he don't mind some increase in weight to around 2KG then he has alot more option to consider.

If not mistaken again the Vostro is using the ULV proc. So the heat management should be OK but looking at how thin it is, it might get hot abit but not to the extreme.
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willing to sacrifice some tabs for a lighter laptop sad.gif
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:41 PM)
u n y series worst in multitasking... m is better.. but core m is slow..
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been using i3-3217U with 2gb ram

the processor have always been around 20-30% of usage :/

and I always open around 12-20 tabs + 2 pdf

but once I open spotify the laptop will lag because of not enough ram lol
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:54 PM)
I wish.. but my inventory only got 2 x aw17, 3 x xps15, 2 x Inspiron 7447, 2 x Alienware x51

Latitude e7440 I was selling RM3200 max... e6540 / 6440 wif ati oso 3k only
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 01:15 PM)
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:39 PM)
I know.. but vostro 5480 almost cannot upgrade.. n I can tell u the heat will make it slow... does it even hv a fan in tat thin casing...
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:41 PM)
u n y series worst in multitasking... m is better.. but core m is slow..
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i really wonder why are you giving recommendations when you clearly do not know what you are talking about doh.gif
clearly most of your post are just for your self gain of selling your own products sweat.gif

1. the only fanless design around is the M-series. Vostro do have fans and the new 14nm proc is even better in heat management
2. the intel M-series they are talking about is the new fanless one and it is successor for the Y-series (http://blog.laptopmag.com/intel-core-m-details)

ps: note the prefix vs suffix of the 'M'.

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 01:12 PM)
been using i3-3217U with 2gb ram

the processor have always been around 20-30% of usage :/

and I always open around 12-20 tabs + 2 pdf

but once I open spotify the laptop will lag because of not enough ram lol
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 5 2015, 02:11 PM)
i really wonder why are you giving recommendations when you clearly do not know what you are talking about   doh.gif
clearly most of your post are just for your self gain of selling your own products  sweat.gif

1. the only fanless design around is the M-series. Vostro do have fans and the new 14nm proc is even better in heat management
2. the intel M-series they are talking about is the new fanless one and it is successor for the Y-series (http://blog.laptopmag.com/intel-core-m-details)

ps: note the prefix vs suffix of the 'M'.
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I m talking bout the multitasking only...or along the way we mix up core m n Pentium M...

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 01:10 PM)
willing to sacrifice some tabs for a lighter laptop sad.gif
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As i have said, proc is not the issue but the ram and because you want light weight means small size laptops which also means reduce RAM slot. Since your i3 only using 20-30 percent usage, i can say that it is the RAM problem. Windows 8.1 (for me already uses 2.5-2.8 GB OS alone with chrome it will escalate to around 3.5 GB with a few tabs.)

If you are willing to sacrifice some tabs then upgrade to the maximum amount of RAM that the system can handle.

If you replace your HDD to SSD, OS loading time would be faster and any application that is installed in your SSD also will load faster. Example would be loading your excel data.

There will always be trade off. Just take the one that is within your budget and the one you prefer. All i can offer is my advice to you. Cheers mate, happy hunting. biggrin.gif

EDIT : Anymore question, i would be delighted to answer and also please do some research as my information might not be right all the time. icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT EDIT: If it is not urgent to upgrade your laptop, i suggest you save up to get the XPS 13.

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 03:08 PM)
I m talking bout the multitasking only...or along the way we mix up core m n Pentium M...
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:27 PM)
this is the part where I wish that I am rich and just buy the new XPS 13 sad.gif

is Pentium M enough? that is the question  rclxub.gif
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The proc from the post is: Intel® Core™ M-5Y10-0.8GHz
either way, you are wrong when you said it is slower but better in multitasking when it isn't (once again, prefix-M).
even if you are talking about the suffix-M, you are still wrong as suffix-M is faster than suffix-U (which you claimed to be slower but better in multitasking).
i doubt you even know how multitasking is even handled...

then your claims about the Vostro (not having fans despite being able to just Google it out within 1min), telling people a difference of 0.8kg doesnt matter just to sell your product when he clearly do not even need the gpu in the 7447.

as you state the hate for MSI mindless forum spammers, they are least just promote their product and do note make ridiculous claims.
this isn't the first time just like how just recently saying the need for a good processor (include extreme series) to open excel or many other times others have called you out.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 03:20 PM)
As i have said, proc is not the issue but the ram and because you want light weight means small size laptops which also means reduce RAM slot. Since your i3 only using 20-30 percent usage, i can say that it is the RAM problem. Windows 8.1 (for me already uses 2.5-2.8 GB OS alone with chrome it will escalate to around 3.5 GB with a few tabs.)

If you are willing to sacrifice some tabs then upgrade to the maximum amount of RAM that the system can handle.

If you replace your HDD to SSD, OS loading time would be faster and any application that is installed in your SSD also will load faster. Example would be loading your excel data.

There will always be trade off. Just take the one that is within your budget and the one you prefer. All i can offer is my advice to you. Cheers mate, happy hunting.  biggrin.gif

EDIT : Anymore question, i would be delighted to answer and also please do some research as my information might not be right all the time.  icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT EDIT: If it is not urgent to upgrade your laptop, i suggest you save up to get the XPS 13.
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you are right on this that RAM (everything need to be loaded into the memory) and SSD (source of data) would be the best performance improvement with any decent processor thumbup.gif
this is why the newer Intel mobile processors are on efficiency over speed.

one last thing is that 4gb ram is more than enough but make sure your OS is a 32-bit OS.
in fact, no average joe would ever need a 64-bit OS and if you do ever get 64-bit OS then at least 6gb ram would be recommended.
anything 4 or less, stick to 4gb ram as 64-bit OS would require more memory for the same process as when it is ran on 32-bit.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 03:20 PM)
As i have said, proc is not the issue but the ram and because you want light weight means small size laptops which also means reduce RAM slot. Since your i3 only using 20-30 percent usage, i can say that it is the RAM problem. Windows 8.1 (for me already uses 2.5-2.8 GB OS alone with chrome it will escalate to around 3.5 GB with a few tabs.)

If you are willing to sacrifice some tabs then upgrade to the maximum amount of RAM that the system can handle.

If you replace your HDD to SSD, OS loading time would be faster and any application that is installed in your SSD also will load faster. Example would be loading your excel data.

There will always be trade off. Just take the one that is within your budget and the one you prefer. All i can offer is my advice to you. Cheers mate, happy hunting.  biggrin.gif

EDIT : Anymore question, i would be delighted to answer and also please do some research as my information might not be right all the time.  icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT EDIT: If it is not urgent to upgrade your laptop, i suggest you save up to get the XPS 13.
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you are right on this that RAM (everything need to be loaded into the memory) and SSD (source of data) would be the best performance improvement with any decent processor thumbup.gif
this is why the newer Intel mobile processors are on efficiency over speed.

one last thing is that 4gb ram is more than enough but make sure your OS is a 32-bit OS.
in fact, no average joe would ever need a 64-bit OS and if you do ever get 64-bit OS then at least 6gb ram would be recommended.
anything 4 or less, stick to 4gb ram as 64-bit OS would require more memory for the same process as when it is ran on 32-bit.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 5 2015, 03:36 PM)
you are right on this that RAM (everything need to be loaded into the memory) and SSD (source of data) would be the best performance improvement with any decent processor  thumbup.gif
this is why the newer Intel mobile processors are on efficiency over speed.

one last thing is that 4gb ram is more than enough but make sure your OS is a 32-bit OS.
in fact, no average joe would ever need a 64-bit OS and if you do ever get 64-bit OS then at least 6gb ram would be recommended.
anything 4 or less, stick to 4gb ram as 64-bit OS would require more memory for the same process as when it is ran on 32-bit.

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I see. I totally forgot about the 32 bit and 64 bit thingy. LOL, thanks for bringing it up. Will be doing some reading on the 32 bit and 64 bit. But isn't 64 bit better than 32 bits in term of performance (RAM performance, 64 bit, able to access more RAM).
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 03:40 PM)
I see. I totally forgot about the 32 bit and 64 bit thingy. LOL, thanks for bringing it up. Will be doing some reading on the 32 bit and 64 bit. But isn't 64 bit better than 32 bits in term of performance (RAM performance, 64 bit, able to access more RAM).
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not really as there are still a large amount of programs that do not utilize all 64 bits, but since everything would need to be 64 then there would be wastage as everything would require 64 bit in the memory
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 5 2015, 04:09 PM)
not really as there are still a large amount of programs that do not utilize all 64 bits, but since everything would need to be 64 then there would be wastage as everything would require 64 bit in the memory
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Yea, just read up one of the article stating that due to hardware not all 64 bit can be utilize. But overall most of the article do state that performance do improve generally (I suppose placebo effect?).

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 03:40 PM)
I see. I totally forgot about the 32 bit and 64 bit thingy. LOL, thanks for bringing it up. Will be doing some reading on the 32 bit and 64 bit. But isn't 64 bit better than 32 bits in term of performance (RAM performance, 64 bit, able to access more RAM).
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I thought most come wif 64bits now? I only see window 8.1 single language (32bits) other all 64bits.. n wat the actual difference? Smoother?
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 04:11 PM)
Yea, just read up one of the article stating that due to hardware not all 64 bit can be utilize. But overall most of the article do state that performance do improve generally (I suppose placebo effect?).
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it is more to software than hardward nowadays (hardwares should be able to handle it).
still when you are lacking memory (<4gb) then you do not really have the luxury.
it is always a trade-off between memory and time (performance).
thus, if you require a lot of memory then a 32 bit would be more efficient for now unless you have programs that require 64 bits (example Cities:Skyline)
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 5 2015, 04:17 PM)
it is more to software than hardward nowadays (hardwares should be able to handle it).
still when you are lacking memory (<4gb) then you do not really have the luxury.
it is always a trade-off between memory and time (performance).
thus, if you require a lot of memory then a 32 bit would be more efficient for now unless you have programs that require 64 bits (example Cities:Skyline)
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True. smile.gif , thanks for your explanation.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 03:20 PM)
As i have said, proc is not the issue but the ram and because you want light weight means small size laptops which also means reduce RAM slot. Since your i3 only using 20-30 percent usage, i can say that it is the RAM problem. Windows 8.1 (for me already uses 2.5-2.8 GB OS alone with chrome it will escalate to around 3.5 GB with a few tabs.)

If you are willing to sacrifice some tabs then upgrade to the maximum amount of RAM that the system can handle.

If you replace your HDD to SSD, OS loading time would be faster and any application that is installed in your SSD also will load faster. Example would be loading your excel data.

There will always be trade off. Just take the one that is within your budget and the one you prefer. All i can offer is my advice to you. Cheers mate, happy hunting.  biggrin.gif

EDIT : Anymore question, i would be delighted to answer and also please do some research as my information might not be right all the time.  icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT EDIT: If it is not urgent to upgrade your laptop, i suggest you save up to get the XPS 13.
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looks like the epic battle will be either UX305 and XPS13 then smile.gif

since you have said that Pentium M will be no problem, I will be inclined to getting the UX305 MY501 with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD

but you know, spending RM4100 for a laptop just for reading, writing and surfing does feel funny to me

it's a huge amount sweat.gif tbh XPS13 was my first choice but after looking at the price sweat.gif


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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:27 PM)
looks like the epic battle will be either UX305 and XPS13 then smile.gif

since you have said that Pentium M will be no problem, I will be inclined to getting the UX305 MY501 with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD

but you know, spending RM4100 for a laptop just for reading, writing and surfing does feel funny to me

it's a huge amount  sweat.gif tbh XPS13 was my first choice but after looking at the price  sweat.gif
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Well, XPS 13 uses premium material (adds into the cost) and yes forgive me about the proc. Surprisingly, The Core M is on par with the U processor albeit the U slightly edges better.

But now the problem would be ASUS after sale service. So good luck!!!!

EDIT : It is not pentium M but Core M if i'm not mistaken. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:27 PM)
looks like the epic battle will be either UX305 and XPS13 then smile.gif

since you have said that Pentium M will be no problem, I will be inclined to getting the UX305 MY501 with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD

but you know, spending RM4100 for a laptop just for reading, writing and surfing does feel funny to me

it's a huge amount  sweat.gif tbh XPS13 was my first choice but after looking at the price  sweat.gif
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Try looking at the reviews of both.
Both have amazing battery life ~8-15hrs.
As for the price, well everything is pricey nowadays and productivity-on-the-go wise, no phone/ tablets can match an ultrabook
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 5 2015, 04:34 PM)
Try looking at the reviews of both.
Both have amazing battery life ~8-15hrs.
As for the price, well everything is pricey nowadays and productivity-on-the-go wise, no phone/ tablets can match an ultrabook
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anyways do you reccomend getting a touch screen laptop?

in my opinion I won't use it much nod.gif hmm.gif
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http://www.techhypermart.com/asus-zenbook-...t840m-w8-1.html

a challenger appears
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:37 PM)
anyways do you reccomend getting a touch screen laptop?

in my opinion I won't use it much  nod.gif  hmm.gif
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I'm using one though 15 inch. It does help when some days i forgot my mouse, Haha. If you wont be using much, then get the non touch as it is lower in price.
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:37 PM)
anyways do you reccomend getting a touch screen laptop?

in my opinion I won't use it much  nod.gif  hmm.gif
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Everything comes with a price. If you want performance, it will be thicker and heavier. They are able to price ultrabook at that price range is because of how the architecture differ with other laptops. No manufacturer will invest and research into making a thinner laptop and release it with cheap price. You can say it is "one-of-a-kind" in the market.

For touch screen, if you didn't use it much, then I think there is no use in purchasing it. Even if there is touch screen, I find it useless if the screen is un-detachable.

A piece of advice, if you are going to get ultrabook, make sure the spec you purchase can last you quite long. At least for basic stuff. Most important make sure RAM and Storage is sufficient for you. Most ultrabook is using soldered component including RAM. So almost no upgrade option.

P/S: I think if you're a matte display fan, touch screen is not your cup of tea. If I'm not mistaken, touch screen is using glossy reflective screen.

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:37 PM)
anyways do you reccomend getting a touch screen laptop?

in my opinion I won't use it much  nod.gif  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:49 PM)
Everything comes with a price. If you want performance, it will be thicker and heavier. They are able to price ultrabook at that price range is because of how the architecture differ with other laptops. No manufacturer will invest and research into making a thinner laptop and release it with cheap price. You can say it is "one-of-a-kind" in the market.

For touch screen, if you didn't use it much, then I think there is no use in purchasing it. Even if there is touch screen, I find it useless if the screen is un-detachable.

A piece of advice, if you are going to get ultrabook, make sure the spec you purchase can last you quite long. At least for basic stuff. Most important make sure RAM and Storage is sufficient for you. Most ultrabook is using soldered component including RAM. So almost no upgrade option.

P/S: I think if you're a matte display fan, touch screen is not your cup of tea. If I'm not mistaken, touch screen is using glossy reflective screen.
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i think Miong pretty much answer it all =)
unless it have multi mode like the yoga-style, i dont see much need for it >.<
this is my personal opinion and i knw a lot of ppl who love their touchscreen laptops.

PS: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/la...-1264384/review

personally, i would go for the XPS as it is the superior product imho.
ultrabooks generally last a long time after all.
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:30 PM)
Lenovo tat 1 wif tn panel or IPS? If tn panel better take ASUS
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if asus what asus would you recommend?
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QUOTE(pandi @ Apr 5 2015, 09:17 PM)
if asus what asus would you recommend?
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G series if u hv some budget... or rog if u hv extra budget
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G series if u hv some budget... or rog if u hv extra budget
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my budget is 3.5 , want I7, 8gb ram, and ssd . light weight. any asus recommend?
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my budget is 3.5 , want I7, 8gb ram, and ssd . light weight. any asus recommend?
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No idea.. I sell Dell only... I think SSD u buy outside cheaper...
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 10:23 PM)
G series if u hv some budget... or rog if u hv extra budget
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Isn't G series already ROG ?
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budget 3k - 3.5k

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any laptop recommend?
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 5 2015, 10:58 PM)
Isn't G series already ROG ?
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budget 3k - 3.5k

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Wat software u use? Need 3D? FYI design software might use different GC compare to gaming...
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No idea.. I sell Dell only... I think SSD u buy outside cheaper...
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then recommend me a dell that suits my needs .. i really have no specific preference..just my friends and all say "asus best asus best"
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then recommend me a dell that suits my needs .. i really have no specific preference..just my friends and all say "asus best asus best"
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sadly asus screw themself up by outsource their warranty service (in kl)

check my garage sales .. dun wan later ppl say me hard sell..
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Wat software u use? Need 3D? FYI design software  might use different GC compare to gaming...
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a little bit of 3D
I do autodesk maya smile.gif
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Is Acer V Nitro good?

Can it support a 2.5 SSD?

The battery is removeable not?
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hiya guys, first time asking for guidance here

recently i am planning to get portable machine for werk and gaming, but know less about it compared to desktop

i'm a long winded person (refer to peeps in RWI, i write sh!tty suffs... i sh!t u not...), so i'll try to keep it short...

- programming sh!t, so it has to be powerful enough, and being a sh!tty pro gamer, i know good graphic card is essential
- i plan to do some mid to heavy virtualizationand dump all werk related files into virtual machines so i can keep the pc clean for development and testing
- currently i use a 13" and sometimes i feel i'm in need of wider monitor

as criteria mentioned above:

- 1TB of storage for roughly 4-6 Virtual machinesand the rest are either for games or documentations about creating life, SSD not a necessity but still good for booting up OS and GAMES!!!
- 8GB of ramz (upgradable... hopefully), for simutaneuos virtual machines (that would means the OS should be 64 bit... *sigh*)
- good warranties and support, not like TMNut... 'try and flip ur modem... working ah... ok, case close!!!'
- screen size should be either 15" or 17" and touch screen is optional
- good graphics, i'm a ATi Fanboi but from reviews i know about how bad they are performing in portable gaming machines... so... any recommedation on Nvidia?

budget wise, it should be from 3.5k to 4.5k (could be in higher spec if it aint for extra 6%... *sigh*)

ok, enough descriptions about my requirements and my hidden agenda of making it a portable gaming device, other than just mere platform for werk. feel free to enquire more information for my blurry specification

in b4 opti-dude comes here and yell, 'OMG!!! r*d b*an army getting a betta machine!!!'
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Apr 6 2015, 09:07 AM)
Is Acer V Nitro good?

Can it support a 2.5 SSD?

The battery is removeable not?
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battery is not removable. some have ssd

Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78A2 has 128gb ssd.

QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 6 2015, 10:03 AM)
hiya guys, first time asking for guidance here

recently i am planning to get portable machine for werk and gaming, but know less about it compared to desktop

i'm a long winded person (refer to peeps in RWI, i write sh!tty suffs... i sh!t u not...), so i'll try to keep it short...

- programming sh!t, so it has to be powerful enough, and being a sh!tty pro gamer, i know good graphic card is essential
- i plan to do some mid to heavy virtualizationand dump all werk related files into virtual machines so i can keep the pc clean for development and testing
- currently i use a 13" and sometimes i feel i'm in need of wider monitor

as criteria mentioned above:

- 1TB of storage for roughly 4-6 Virtual machinesand the rest are either for games or documentations about creating life, SSD not a necessity but still good for booting up OS and GAMES!!!
- 8GB of ramz (upgradable... hopefully), for simutaneuos virtual machines (that would means the OS should be 64 bit... *sigh*)
- good warranties and support, not like TMNut... 'try and flip ur modem... working ah... ok, case close!!!'
- screen size should be either 15" or 17" and touch screen is optional
- good graphics, i'm a ATi Fanboi but from reviews i know about how bad they are performing in portable gaming machines... so... any recommedation on Nvidia?

budget wise, it should be from 3.5k to 4.5k (could be in higher spec if it aint for extra 6%... *sigh*)

ok, enough descriptions about my requirements and my hidden agenda of making it a portable gaming device, other than just mere platform for werk. feel free to enquire more information for my blurry specification

in b4 opti-dude comes here and yell, 'OMG!!! r*d b*an army getting a betta machine!!!'
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remaining budget, add another 8gb, max it to 16gb ram. change the internal primary hard disk from 500gb to 1T... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 6 2015, 10:03 AM)
hiya guys, first time asking for guidance here

recently i am planning to get portable machine for werk and gaming, but know less about it compared to desktop

i'm a long winded person (refer to peeps in RWI, i write sh!tty suffs... i sh!t u not...), so i'll try to keep it short...

- programming sh!t, so it has to be powerful enough, and being a sh!tty pro gamer, i know good graphic card is essential
- i plan to do some mid to heavy virtualizationand dump all werk related files into virtual machines so i can keep the pc clean for development and testing
- currently i use a 13" and sometimes i feel i'm in need of wider monitor

as criteria mentioned above:

- 1TB of storage for roughly 4-6 Virtual machinesand the rest are either for games or documentations about creating life, SSD not a necessity but still good for booting up OS and GAMES!!!
- 8GB of ramz (upgradable... hopefully), for simutaneuos virtual machines (that would means the OS should be 64 bit... *sigh*)
- good warranties and support, not like TMNut... 'try and flip ur modem... working ah... ok, case close!!!'
- screen size should be either 15" or 17" and touch screen is optional
- good graphics, i'm a ATi Fanboi but from reviews i know about how bad they are performing in portable gaming machines... so... any recommedation on Nvidia?

budget wise, it should be from 3.5k to 4.5k (could be in higher spec if it aint for extra 6%... *sigh*)

ok, enough descriptions about my requirements and my hidden agenda of making it a portable gaming device, other than just mere platform for werk. feel free to enquire more information for my blurry specification

in b4 opti-dude comes here and yell, 'OMG!!! r*d b*an army getting a betta machine!!!'
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I'm confuse as to do you still game on the laptop?

If so check out illegear.

EDIT : Was slow. Damn it... doh.gif

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 6 2015, 10:09 AM)
battery is not removable. some have ssd

Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78A2 has 128gb ssd.
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remaining budget, add another 8gb, max it to 16gb ram. change the internal primary hard disk from 500gb to 1T...  laugh.gif
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So would that be a problem if i keep plugged in and play the whole day?
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bit only rite... wat the normal size (MB) of the files u Deal wif
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Apr 6 2015, 10:15 AM)
So would that be a problem if i keep plugged in and play the whole day?
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Nope, with lithium ion battery. it is fine. Older battery nickel based might have problems.

Source : http://www.howtogeek.com/124715/should-i-l...n-all-the-time/

Another source : http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article...based_batteries

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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Apr 6 2015, 10:15 AM)
So would that be a problem if i keep plugged in and play the whole day?
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erm, its better to have removable battery laugh.gif please do consider this

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Modern power management circuitry will prevent "over-charging" the battery, even if you leave it charging 24/7. What is detrimental to the battery is charging it to 100%, letting it drain completely or near completely, then recharging it to 100% repeatedly. This puts a lot of wear on the cells.

Try to keep your charge between 20% and 80%, while only doing a FULL charge + discharge cycle once in a great while. This will preserve the overall longevity of the battery's ability to hold a charge. Also, the cooler you can keep the laptop, the better for the battery as well.


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Never leave the machine plugged in all the time. Laptops are meant to be portable. Using it as a desktop that never runs on the battery will destroy your battery life.

Cycles are your friend. Never letting the battery complete a cycle will greatly diminish your run-time. Try to avoid charging the battery unless it's drained past 30%. Any time the battery drains past 50% and charges more than 50% counts as a cycle. The farther you let it drain before the charge - the better its overall health will remain.

30 cycles in a year is not a good thing. wink.gif

Let the battery drain completely a few times a week.

Never let it sit for long periods of time without use.

Batteries need to be loved or else they won't love you.

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 6 2015, 10:09 AM)
the best is, this for you... i feel it  brows.gif  brows.gif

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remaining budget, add another 8gb, max it to 16gb ram. change the internal primary hard disk from 500gb to 1T...  laugh.gif
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imma do some google and research 1st

QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 6 2015, 10:10 AM)
I'm confuse as to do you still game on the laptop?

If so check out illegear.

EDIT : Was slow. Damn it... doh.gif
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well, the machine is for werk but playing games with few buddies in CC is just meh!! dirty toilet, smokers, trash talkers, sticky keyboard and mouse, crappy lighting, etc... it's better to be sitting in mah buddy's house and play there, so higher spec for mobility is quite important.
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 6 2015, 10:26 AM)
imma do some google and research 1st

well, the machine is for werk but playing games with few buddies in CC is just meh!! dirty toilet, smokers, trash talkers, sticky keyboard and mouse, crappy lighting, etc... it's better to be sitting in mah buddy's house and play there, so higher spec for mobility is quite important.
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any qs.. can drop here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3153031 brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 6 2015, 10:26 AM)
imma do some google and research 1st

well, the machine is for werk but playing games with few buddies in CC is just meh!! dirty toilet, smokers, trash talkers, sticky keyboard and mouse, crappy lighting, etc... it's better to be sitting in mah buddy's house and play there, so higher spec for mobility is quite important.
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You cant go wrong with illegear with their after sale service and top notch specs.

I still don't get you...

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 6 2015, 10:32 AM)
You cant go wrong with illegear with their after sale service and top notch specs.

I still don't get you...
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U pay for it ma... extra charge so much deliver wat they promise... u think like chicken kor meh
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 6 2015, 10:29 AM)
any qs.. can drop here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3153031  brows.gif  brows.gif
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checked the link, the product site and the spec, basically good reviews about the machine but the obvious casing makes it obvious to the other workers that i am using a blaardy gaming unit, and that made me look unprofessional, in a sense...


i know it sounds might be nitpicking, but i also concern about the built-in battery. i dun use much battery (for environment sake) and even dun carry battery for the current machine that i use (no power = no werk). it is treated more of a backup than the main power source.

i'm not saying it is a bad unit; it is well-built powerhouse for werk and gaming with a reasonable price.

anymore more recommendations?

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 6 2015, 11:57 AM)
checked the link, the product site and the spec, basically good reviews about the machine but the obvious casing makes it obvious to the other workers that i am using a blaardy gaming unit, and that made me look unprofessional, in a sense...
i know it sounds might be nitpicking, but i also concern about the built-in battery. i dun use much battery (for environment sake) and even dun carry battery for the current machine that i use (no power = no werk). it is treated more of a backup than the main power source.

i'm not saying it is a bad unit; it is well-built powerhouse for werk and gaming with a reasonable price.

anymore more recommendations?
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MSI GE62/72 (do note the model number, it is the lastest afaik should be better at cooling.)
Alienware?

EDIT : Still look like a gaming machine doh.gif . Dell top of the range inspiron model, HP (Cooling not so good for Envy model (Using one tongue.gif )) or Lenovo Y50.

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 6 2015, 11:57 AM)
checked the link, the product site and the spec, basically good reviews about the machine but the obvious casing makes it obvious to the other workers that i am using a blaardy gaming unit, and that made me look unprofessional, in a sense...
i know it sounds might be nitpicking, but i also concern about the built-in battery. i dun use much battery (for environment sake) and even dun carry battery for the current machine that i use (no power = no werk). it is treated more of a backup than the main power source.

i'm not saying it is a bad unit; it is well-built powerhouse for werk and gaming with a reasonable price.

anymore more recommendations?
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MSI GE60 2QE-887MY Apache - 15.6” FHD IPS + i7-4720HQ + 8GB ram + 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm + GTX960M 2GB +W8.1 ~ RM4199

but really dont like the design sweat.gif as what AthrunIJ said, cooling is issue sweat.gif else.. carry desktop around laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 6 2015, 12:09 PM)
MSI GE62/72 (do note the model number, it is the lastest afaik should be better at cooling.)
Alienware?

EDIT : Still look like a gaming machine  doh.gif . Dell top of the range inspiron model, HP (Cooling not so good for Envy model (Using one  tongue.gif )) or Lenovo Y50.
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 6 2015, 12:25 PM)
MSI GE60 2QE-887MY Apache - 15.6” FHD IPS + i7-4720HQ + 8GB ram + 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm + GTX960M 2GB +W8.1 ~ RM4199

but really dont like the design  sweat.gif as what AthrunIJ said, cooling is issue  sweat.gif else.. carry desktop around  laugh.gif
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checked inspiron few days ago, look mac-ish... i poked fun of people who uses *certain GNU-Linux distribution* as 'cheap mac imitators' and 'too poor for mac'... getting it would be a huge slap in mah face, plus it aint fer gaming

MSI GE60/ 62/72 is decent but from the reviews i read, there would be either the heat that stops you from using it or the undesirable partitions size that turns people off

Lenovo Y50 has almost the same heating ventilation issues as MSI counterpart... ok, in some cases they are worse...

Alienware is indeed fine tuned but the price is way out of the league...

i'll try to think and balance the factors for those mentioned notebooks, and i know that there's no such thing as perfect (even for beeeewbs...)

*feels like someone is trying to punch me in da face for my uber nit-picking*

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 6 2015, 01:27 PM)
checked inspiron few days ago, look mac-ish... i poked fun of people who uses *certain GNU-Linux distribution* as 'cheap mac imitators' and 'too poor for mac'... getting it would be a huge slap in mah face, plus it aint fer gaming

MSI GE60/ 62/72 is decent but from the reviews i read, there would be either the heat that stops you from using it or the undesirable partitions size that turns people off

Lenovo Y50 has almost the same heating ventilation issues as MSI counterpart... ok, in some cases they are worse...

Alienware is indeed fine tuned but the price is way out of the league...

i'll try to think and balance the factors for those mentioned notebooks, and i know that there's no such thing as perfect (even for beeeewbs...)

*feels like someone is trying to punch me in da face for my uber nit-picking*
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First of all, are you planning to game or not ? Please do specify it in a more straight forward way. From what I read, it seems like you didn't want to game at all. Please don't keep using strikethrough words. If it is not meant for others to read, just DELETE it. We're here to help you, so please shorten down your question and statement. No point reading unnecessary stuff.

If you're not going to game at all, you opt to get business grade laptop like Thinkpad, Latitude or Elitebook. You don't have to concern about the battery, stay plugged in is not a big deal for laptops nowadays. A lot of laptop is leaning to built in battery design now. Your laptop battery will die eventually even though you detach it and didn't use it at all.

For programming, you don't have to have a beastly machine to do those coding. 4710HQ is sufficient enough. For virtual machine, if you're really into heavy VM and multi tasking, recommended are 8GB at least. Most laptop which cost > 3.5k will not be using onboard RAM and most is equipped with 8GB ram and up to 16gb min ram. (Exclude ultrabook)

For you, I think Latitude and Thinkpad suits you more since you're working most of the time. Just make sure your gpu is quad core and 8gb of ram. SSD is a plus but not necessary. Why I suggest quad core is maybe your project requires you utilize multi core / you're writing programs which utilize multi core.

If you want to game, with your budget you have not much choice. If you don't want Z5, you need to top up to get S5. Y50 I personally don't like it as the built quality is not as good as Asus. Its screen sucks also (go find out why it sucks yourself, it has been mentioned a lot of time in this section). If you're not playing those High demanding games, gtx950m or 850m is sufficient for you. Like Dell Inspiron 7447.
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 6 2015, 01:27 PM)
checked inspiron few days ago, look mac-ish... i poked fun of people who uses *certain GNU-Linux distribution* as 'cheap mac imitators' and 'too poor for mac'... getting it would be a huge slap in mah face, plus it aint fer gaming

MSI GE60/ 62/72 is decent but from the reviews i read, there would be either the heat that stops you from using it or the undesirable partitions size that turns people off

Lenovo Y50 has almost the same heating ventilation issues as MSI counterpart... ok, in some cases they are worse...

Alienware is indeed fine tuned but the price is way out of the league...

i'll try to think and balance the factors for those mentioned notebooks, and i know that there's no such thing as perfect (even for beeeewbs...)

*feels like someone is trying to punch me in da face for my uber nit-picking*
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i slowly... confusing on what u plan wanna get... i think better u gt illegear z5... removable battery or not...
Modern power management circuitry will prevent "over-charging" the battery, even if you leave it charging 24/7. What is detrimental to the battery is charging it to 100%, letting it drain completely or near completely, then recharging it to 100% repeatedly. This puts a lot of wear on the cells.
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Budget: rm1500 to rm1700
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Can someone recommend me laptop with the budget and purpose above?
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QUOTE(mugenz @ Apr 6 2015, 02:10 PM)
Budget: rm1500 to rm1700
Purpose: for work

Can someone recommend me laptop with the budget and purpose above?
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HP 14-r254TU – 14” + i3-4005U + 4GB + 1TB + W8.1 :
Acer Aspire E5-511-C8QGi – 14” + Intel N2940 + 2GB + 500GB + W8.1 Bing : -
Acer Aspire E5-411(Red, Blue, White) – 14” +Intel N3540 + 2GB + 500GB +W8.1 Bing :
Asus X554LD-XX761D (Black , White) – 15.6” + I5-5200 + 4GB + 500GB + GT820M 1GB + DOS :
Lenovo G40-80 80E4005NMJ – 14” - i5-5200U + 4GB + 500GB + AMD R5-M230 +DOS

prince might be different after gst was implemented.. and if its totally for work.. those budget is more than enough
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bit only rite... wat the normal size (MB) of the files u Deal wif
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mostly all my file is around 20mb - 80mb nod.gif
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 6 2015, 02:04 PM)
i slowly... confusing on what u plan wanna get... i think better u gt illegear z5... removable battery or not...
Modern power management circuitry will prevent "over-charging" the battery, even if you leave it charging 24/7. What is detrimental to the battery is charging it to 100%, letting it drain completely or near completely, then recharging it to 100% repeatedly. This puts a lot of wear on the cells.
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Per our built-in battery statistic, it wears off very slowly comparing to detachable battery even if you charge it all the time. Our Z5 users usually get 1 to 2% wear off from the built-in battery a month, so I guess your statement is right.
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QUOTE(Prince J @ Apr 6 2015, 02:52 PM)
Per our built-in battery statistic, it wears off very slowly comparing to detachable battery even if you charge it all the time. Our Z5 users usually get 1 to 2% wear off from the built-in battery a month, so I guess your statement is right.
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Yes... alot PPL dunno the latest ion charge battery last longer if they keep the battery above 50%
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mostly all my file is around 20mb - 80mb nod.gif
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Then I guess Gtx 860m above should be ok
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Per our built-in battery statistic, it wears off very slowly comparing to detachable battery even if you charge it all the time. Our Z5 users usually get 1 to 2% wear off from the built-in battery a month, so I guess your statement is right.
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Hi Guys,

im looking for a gaming laptop

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - RM5000
3. Usage - Gaming/Programming
4. Preferred

Additional Info

    screen size 15.6"
    VGA: GTX965M or GTX970M
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Hey mgsolid,

For RM5,099 you can already buy a MSI GE62 2QE Apache with Intel i7-4720HQ CPU and Nvidia 965M, 2GB GDDR5 GPU.
It has a Full HD IPS screen and a faster HDD than most other brands.

Alternately, if you can stretch your budget to RM5,999 then you can also consider the MSI GE62 2QF Apache Pro with Nvidia 970M, 3GB GDDR5 GPU and a 4K IPS screen. Woot!

Should check out their latest booklet and see what other gaming features the include with the Apache.
http://bit.ly/mymsinb_booklet

All the best and happy shopping!! biggrin.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(DragonRiderStar @ Apr 6 2015, 03:41 PM)
Hey mgsolid,

For RM5,099 you can already buy a MSI GE62 2QE Apache with Intel i7-4720HQ CPU and Nvidia 965M, 2GB GDDR5 GPU.
It has a Full HD IPS screen and a faster HDD than most other brands.

Alternately, if you can stretch your budget to RM5,999 then you can also consider the MSI GE62 2QF Apache Pro with Nvidia 970M, 3GB GDDR5 GPU and a 4K IPS screen. Woot!

Should check out their latest booklet and see what other gaming features the include with the Apache.
http://bit.ly/mymsinb_booklet

All the best and happy shopping!!  biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Erm can I know what is the HDD ? Faster than 7200rpm ?
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Erm can I know what is the HDD ? Faster than 7200rpm ?
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As compared to 5400RPM HDD that certain brands use as standard on their machines. Of course all mSATA slots make it upgradeable but IMHO it should be standard on gaming machines.

Just my dua sen. biggrin.gif
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Bought acer v nitro v15 (RM3699) with gst ,very happy with it,but i found out there's a problem with the wifi, when i ping it to my router i got very high response time while my desktop show normal(on wifi too) downloading seems slow by half of the normal speed i would get on desktop, youtube-ing is just ughhhh 1080 cant even load properly while desktop load like piece of cake ,anyone face this issue ?
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Apr 3 2015, 10:46 PM)
1. Preferred Brand : MSI / Acer
2. Budget : 3.5K - 4K
3. Usage : Gaming , assignment
4. Preferred laptop/screen size : Not very sure to choose MSI GE60 / Acer V Nitro ?
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Hey ValityMental,

The Acer V Nitro is a pretty decent notebook but seems like it's rarer than hens teeth. Hard to get and limited stocks.
You should check the Acer specific thread on this forum for more info though cause it seems they raised the price and reduced one or two specs. (tried finding the article from Lowyat website but not there anymore)

In any case, the Nitro is retailing for RM4,599 with a 860M GPU but for that same price you can already get the MSI GE60 2QE with the newer 960M GPU.

RM4,499 for MSI GE60 2QE Apache Pro with 15'6in IPS screen or tambah another 100 bucks for a larger 17'3in screen, MSI GE70 2QE Apache Pro.

You can find the details here. http://bit.ly/mymsinb_booklet
I always visit their FB page for free stuff and the latest info.

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QUOTE(andyliew97 @ Apr 6 2015, 04:19 PM)
Bought acer v nitro v15 (RM3699) with gst ,very happy with it,but i found out there's a problem with the wifi, when i ping it to my router i got very high response time while my desktop show normal(on wifi too) downloading seems slow by half of the normal speed i would get on desktop, youtube-ing is just ughhhh 1080 cant even load properly while desktop load like piece of cake ,anyone face this issue ?
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Driver up to date?
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QUOTE(andyliew97 @ Apr 6 2015, 04:19 PM)
Bought acer v nitro v15 (RM3699) with gst ,very happy with it,but i found out there's a problem with the wifi, when i ping it to my router i got very high response time while my desktop show normal(on wifi too) downloading seems slow by half of the normal speed i would get on desktop, youtube-ing is just ughhhh 1080 cant even load properly while desktop load like piece of cake ,anyone face this issue ?
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yes.. i see in acer support forum also have this issue.

If you are having wireless issues I would suggest calling Acer Technical Support and see about having the unit brought in for service for testing to make sure there isn't a hardware issue.

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Hey ValityMental,

The Acer V Nitro is a pretty decent notebook but seems like it's rarer than hens teeth. Hard to get and limited stocks.
You should check the Acer specific thread on this forum for more info though cause it seems they raised the price and reduced one or two specs. (tried finding the article from Lowyat website but not there anymore)

In any case, the Nitro is retailing for RM4,599 with a 860M GPU but for that same price you can already get the MSI GE60 2QE with the newer 960M GPU.

RM4,499 for MSI GE60 2QE Apache Pro with 15'6in IPS screen or tambah another 100 bucks for a larger 17'3in screen, MSI GE70 2QE Apache Pro.

You can find the details here. http://bit.ly/mymsinb_booklet
I always visit their FB page for free stuff and the latest info.

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Not to insult you or anything. But the MSI GE60/70 aint worth it because it still uses one fan and dual heatsink. If possible get the GE62/72.

As for 860 and 960, they are basically the same with the 960 slightly clock higher to gain some albeit small performance gain.
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QUOTE(andyliew97 @ Apr 6 2015, 04:23 PM)
yes, already update just now ,still same problem with ping, speed sometimes ok sometimes not
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QUOTE(andyliew97 @ Apr 6 2015, 04:19 PM)
Bought acer v nitro v15 (RM3699) with gst ,very happy with it,but i found out there's a problem with the wifi, when i ping it to my router i got very high response time while my desktop show normal(on wifi too) downloading seems slow by half of the normal speed i would get on desktop, youtube-ing is just ughhhh 1080 cant even load properly while desktop load like piece of cake ,anyone face this issue ?
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Most likely hardware problem, my sister face it before but it is on a HP laptop. Best is to bring it in to Acer to check.
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 6 2015, 04:27 PM)
yes.. i see in acer support forum also have this issue.

If you are having wireless issues I would suggest calling Acer Technical Support and see about having the unit brought in for service for testing to make sure there isn't a hardware issue.

acer community

try install this driver driver
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alamak cry.gif Labuan no acer service center sweat.gif bought it from at sabah ,btw will try as per suggest and update later
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 6 2015, 04:31 PM)
Most likely hardware problem, my sister face it before but it is on a HP laptop. Best is to bring it in to Acer to check.
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The place i stay no acer service center or acer shop ,only 3rd party cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(andyliew97 @ Apr 6 2015, 04:32 PM)
The place i stay no acer service center or acer shop ,only 3rd party cry.gif  cry.gif
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Oh boy, lets hope it is firmware problems. If not then try calling Acer whether they do onsite pickup (might incur some cost if they do)?
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Oh boy, lets hope it is firmware problems. If not then try calling Acer whether they do onsite pickup (might incur some cost if they do)?
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QUOTE(andyliew97 @ Apr 6 2015, 04:32 PM)
The place i stay no acer service center or acer shop ,only 3rd party cry.gif  cry.gif
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this.. duh... try first sweat.gif
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not working cry.gif
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not working  cry.gif
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the driver as i recommend u to install.. if its not working.. acer service center... had go sabah lo laugh.gif
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the driver as i recommend u to install.. if its not working.. acer service center... had go sabah lo  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DragonRiderStar @ Apr 6 2015, 04:03 PM)
As compared to 5400RPM HDD that certain brands use as standard on their machines. Of course all mSATA slots make it upgradeable but IMHO it should be standard on gaming machines.

Just my dua sen.  biggrin.gif
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I'm not denying anything though. I'm interested in it cause I'm planning to switch to a different HDD if there is a HDD which is faster than 7200rpm. Not going for SSD though.
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I'm not denying anything though. I'm interested in it cause I'm planning to switch to a different HDD if there is a HDD which is faster than 7200rpm. Not going for SSD though.
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On consumer side max is 7200 rpm. Don't think there is anything higher. o.o, cant imagine the angular velocity in that thing. LOL

EDIT : Something interesting http://www.seagate.com/as/en/tech-insights...more-master-ti/

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On consumer side max is 7200 rpm. Don't think there is anything higher. o.o, cant imagine the angular velocity in that thing. LOL
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 6 2015, 05:56 PM)
On consumer side max is 7200 rpm. Don't think there is anything higher. o.o, cant imagine the angular velocity in that thing. LOL

EDIT : Something interesting http://www.seagate.com/as/en/tech-insights...more-master-ti/
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QUOTE(andyliew97 @ Apr 6 2015, 04:59 PM)
so sad get bad apple  cry.gif  i going to sabah for further study on early may  cry.gif need laptop everyday for other stuff
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Chill la bro, warranty cover ma... get new parts le... dun need so upset...
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I know right, but i need this laptop for my further study plus i got transport problem to go and send,take back this laptop etc...
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I know right, but i need this laptop for my further study plus i got transport problem to go and send,take back this laptop etc...
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You can call the customer service ask whether they do pickup and courier. If you trust them enough.

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You can call the customer service ask whether they do pickup and courier. If you trust them enough.
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I dont trust courier service with pc & laptop cause last time when i order pc online for my friend, when reach my home ,the graphic card gantung2 sweat.gif ,have to coupe with the wifi issue for a month then or just get a temporary external wifi adapter
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I dont trust courier service with pc & laptop cause last time when i order pc online for my friend, when reach my home ,the graphic card gantung2 sweat.gif ,have to coupe with the wifi issue for a month then or just get a temporary external wifi adapter
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if u x wifi... wat else u can use? LAN cable? direct plug in hmm.gif been to labuan b4.. i knw wat u feel laugh.gif
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if u x wifi... wat else u can use? LAN cable? direct plug in  hmm.gif  been to labuan b4.. i knw wat u feel  laugh.gif
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everthing in this house is connected to internet via wifi, lan cable mafan hmm.gif since wifi downstairs ,my laptop upstairs, actually quite proud labuan is my hometown ,downside is lack of many shops other place have while labuan not
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Sifu any recommendation for hybrid laptop:

Acer z one
Asus transformer
Hp pavillion x360

Any others? Hp pavillion 11 x360 good?
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Sifu any recommendation for hybrid laptop:

Acer z one
Asus transformer
Hp pavillion x360

Any others? Hp pavillion 11 x360 good?
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Budget and what kind of apps will be used?  hmm.gif , any preference?
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For work. Budget 1.5k
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http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/asu...p-notebook.html

http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/del...p-notebook.html

http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/hp-...intel-w8-1.html

If you can see past Asus after sale service then it is quite good.
For basic uses, the spec should be sufficient.
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1. Preferred Brand - Apple, Asus. (other brands are welcomed though)
2. Budget - RM2500-RM5000
3. Usage - main:college purpose. all purpose such as occasional media edit, casual gaming, and entertainment.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13 is just sweet. wouldnt mind a wider screen.

+ light, slim. sleek design. easy to carry.
+ latest processors
+ long hour juice
+ SSD, 8GB Ram,
+ Multiple windows and task, still work smoothly.

I'm not a gamer, so please no suggestions on that categories. Afraid the machine would be under-utilised under my care.
I know I may ask a miracle, but anywhere close to that, I'll consider.

If you can add a review, would gladly appreciate it. smile.gif

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QUOTE(mia_luvlifes @ Apr 7 2015, 02:16 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Apple, Asus. (other brands are welcomed though)
2. Budget - RM2500-RM5000
3. Usage - main:college purpose. all purpose such as occasional media edit, casual gaming, and entertainment.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13 is just sweet. wouldnt mind a wider screen.

+ light, slim. sleek design. easy to carry.
+ latest processors
+ long hour juice
+ SSD, 8GB Ram,
+ Multiple windows and task, still work smoothly.

I'm not a gamer, so please no suggestions on that categories. Afraid the machine would be under-utilised under my care.
I know I may ask a miracle, but anywhere close to that, I'll consider.

If you can add a review, would gladly appreciate it.  smile.gif
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If you want an ultrabook, you can't expect a powerful yet latest processor smile.gif
New mb is using intel-M processor. The fan-less one. It is good for normal usage, but if you stress it then it will be a different story.
You can consider Dell XPS 13, MB or Yoga 2

P/S: I assume your casual gaming is not playing those high demanding game like Watch Dogs or COD.
P/SS: Most ultrabook is using onboard RAM, CPU and even HDD/SSD. So upgrade-wise may be a little bit more limited.

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 7 2015, 12:13 PM)
Sifu any recommendation for hybrid laptop:

Acer z one
Asus transformer
Hp pavillion x360

Any others? Hp pavillion 11 x360 good?
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receive more negative feedback from user.. so, obviously that hp is problem a lot.

i'll choose acer z one compare those 2 even acer have mushy keypads. asus also not bad.. just power button issue and battery issue not charging correctly.. dont know if its fix or not.. but it happens to certain transformer model.
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 7 2015, 02:31 PM)
If you want an ultrabook, you can't expect a powerful yet latest processor smile.gif
New mb is using intel-M processor. The fan-less one. It is good for normal usage, but if you stress it then it will be a different story.
You can consider Dell XPS 13, MB or Yoga 2

P/S: I assume your casual gaming is not playing those high demanding game like Watch Dogs or COD.
P/SS: Most ultrabook is using onboard RAM, CPU and even HDD/SSD. So upgrade-wise may be a little bit more limited.
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i would actually get it over the XPS-13 now
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QUOTE(mia_luvlifes @ Apr 7 2015, 02:16 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Apple, Asus. (other brands are welcomed though)
2. Budget - RM2500-RM5000
3. Usage - main:college purpose. all purpose such as occasional media edit, casual gaming, and entertainment.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13 is just sweet. wouldnt mind a wider screen.

+ light, slim. sleek design. easy to carry.
+ latest processors
+ long hour juice
+ SSD, 8GB Ram,
+ Multiple windows and task, still work smoothly.

I'm not a gamer, so please no suggestions on that categories. Afraid the machine would be under-utilised under my care.
I know I may ask a miracle, but anywhere close to that, I'll consider.

If you can add a review, would gladly appreciate it.  smile.gif
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Inspiron 7347/7348?
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 7 2015, 02:31 PM)
If you want an ultrabook, you can't expect a powerful yet latest processor smile.gif
New mb is using intel-M processor. The fan-less one. It is good for normal usage, but if you stress it then it will be a different story.
You can consider Dell XPS 13, MB or Yoga 2

P/S: I assume your casual gaming is not playing those high demanding game like Watch Dogs or COD.
P/SS: Most ultrabook is using onboard RAM, CPU and even HDD/SSD. So upgrade-wise may be a little bit more limited.
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I dont mean the beastly great processors. But just powerful enough. Let's say powerful for an ultrabook.
yes, that casual gaming.
and, i wont worry for an upgrade or any sorts. I'm not that sort of tech person to upgrade sorts. tongue.gif
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any thoughts on the Asus Zenbook UX305, or Asus Chi t300?
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I dont mean the beastly great processors. But just powerful enough. Let's say powerful for an ultrabook.
yes, that casual gaming.
and, i wont worry for an upgrade or any sorts. I'm not that sort of tech person to upgrade sorts.  tongue.gif
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would direct you to this.
for your budget and requirements, ultimately it would come down to these 2.
HP worked with Microsoft closely for the whole laptop (except the trackpad) whereas Dell worked with Microsoft for the trackpad.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 7 2015, 03:06 PM)

would direct you to this.
for your budget and requirements, ultimately it would come down to these 2.
HP worked with Microsoft closely for the whole laptop (except the trackpad) whereas Dell worked with Microsoft for the trackpad.
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Or wait for Surface 3. Even though the spec is lower, it should do fine if you're just doing stuff like browsing and some words processing.
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 7 2015, 03:17 PM)
Or wait for Surface 3. Even though the spec is lower, it should do fine if you're just doing stuff like browsing and some words processing.
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well he did said 13" and these 2 fits it perfectly.
with media edit, i would never recommend a M-series intel proc.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 7 2015, 03:06 PM)

would direct you to this.
for your budget and requirements, ultimately it would come down to these 2.
HP worked with Microsoft closely for the whole laptop (except the trackpad) whereas Dell worked with Microsoft for the trackpad.
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drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

EDIT : Finish drooling, AFAIK editing media would be ok on a Core M proc though sure it might be slow.

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 7 2015, 03:21 PM)
well he did said 13" and these 2 fits it perfectly.
with media edit, i would never recommend a M-series intel proc.
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Well more choices is always better than no choice right ? haha
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QUOTE(mia_luvlifes @ Apr 7 2015, 02:16 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Apple, Asus. (other brands are welcomed though)
2. Budget - RM2500-RM5000
3. Usage - main:college purpose. all purpose such as occasional media edit, casual gaming, and entertainment.
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13 is just sweet. wouldnt mind a wider screen.

+ light, slim. sleek design. easy to carry.
+ latest processors
+ long hour juice
+ SSD, 8GB Ram,
+ Multiple windows and task, still work smoothly.

I'm not a gamer, so please no suggestions on that categories. Afraid the machine would be under-utilised under my care.
I know I may ask a miracle, but anywhere close to that, I'll consider.

If you can add a review, would gladly appreciate it.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 7 2015, 10:26 AM)
then for time being, sit new wifi  laugh.gif  erm, anyway... need external wifi adapter. think can be use temporary
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haih so troubling one this problem,summore on high end laptop. did another test but using my hotpost, speed is ok but ping spike up and down like hell cry.gif
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QUOTE(mia_luvlifes @ Apr 7 2015, 04:13 PM)
torn between XPS 15 and Zenbook UX305.
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wouldnt advise the UX305 for your task mainly due to the slow fanless Intel M-series proc used without any significant battery gain over the I-series.
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/notebooks/...nbook-UX305.htm

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the XPS13 would be better over the XPS15 in terms of mobility (size, bezeless screen, battery) but lose out in terms of performance (faster proc but more power drain, dedicated GPU, higher ram and ssd).
do note the XPS15 is much older as well (4th gen processor vs current 5th gen)

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PS: Try looking at notebookcheck for reviews. I generally follow theirs together with Anandtech (if they do review)

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haih so troubling one this problem,summore on high end laptop. did another test but using my hotpost, speed is ok but ping spike up and down like hell  cry.gif
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QUOTE(mia_luvlifes @ Apr 7 2015, 04:13 PM)
torn between XPS 15 and Zenbook UX305.
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Can say XPS 15 the all rounder laptop. Powerful specs with sleek design and etc while the Asus zenbook is used mainly for basic usage such as browsing, word processing and etc.

Though the mass for XPS 15 is around 2KG++ while the Zenbook would be significantly lighter.
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 7 2015, 02:34 PM)
receive more negative feedback from user.. so, obviously that hp is problem a lot.

i'll choose acer z one compare those 2 even acer have mushy keypads.  asus also not bad.. just power button issue and battery issue not charging correctly.. dont know if its fix or not.. but it happens to certain transformer model.
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Charge very slow
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Only 2.0 usb. Got no left usb if use mouse


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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 7 2015, 05:04 PM)
Can say XPS 15 the all rounder laptop. Powerful specs with sleek design and etc while the Asus zenbook is used mainly for basic usage such as browsing, word processing and etc.

Though the mass for XPS 15 is around 2KG++ while the Zenbook would be significantly lighter.
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xps u just change to ssd i would be around 2kg... same casing as precision m3800
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 7 2015, 05:15 PM)
Many complained acer z one:
Charge very slow
Over brightness no ips so eye ache
Only 2.0 usb. Got no left usb if use mouse
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how much is ur budget? if u concern about battery, there is other alt notebook for u
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how much is ur budget? if u concern about battery, there is other alt notebook for u
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1.5k bro.heard HP stream x360 come out? I want to buy 2in 1 laptop for reading ebook before sleep.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 7 2015, 08:51 PM)
1.5k bro.heard HP stream x360 come out? I want to buy 2in 1 laptop for reading ebook before sleep.
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Why not get a laptop and a tablet instead or just a tablet.

Anyways, best is that you yourself go and check out the product because one man poison is another man treasure (Something like that).



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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 7 2015, 08:51 PM)
1.5k bro.heard HP stream x360 come out? I want to buy 2in 1 laptop for reading ebook before sleep.
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well, can check the seller in garage sales or look for seller at first page of this thread... they are trusted seller. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 7 2015, 08:56 PM)
Why not get a laptop and a tablet instead or just a tablet.

Anyways, best is that you yourself go and check out the product because one man poison is another man treasure (Something like that).
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Why not get a laptop and a tablet instead or just a tablet.

Anyways, best is that you yourself go and check out the product because one man poison is another man treasure (Something like that).
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Already got ipad. Dun like too much goods make me headache and some ebooks I downloaded from laptop needs to move.maybe coz ipad, maybe android better?

Moreover, I like 11.6inches and microsoft office presentation good with windows. I need to give presentation on pitch book

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Already got ipad. Dun like too much goods make me headache and some ebooks I downloaded from laptop needs to move.maybe coz ipad, maybe android better?

Moreover, I like 11.6inches and microsoft office presentation good with windows. I need to give presentation on pitch book
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Inspiron 11.. but can't flip
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 7 2015, 11:19 PM)
Already got ipad. Dun like too much goods make me headache and some ebooks I downloaded from laptop needs to move.maybe coz ipad, maybe android better?

Moreover, I like 11.6inches and microsoft office presentation good with windows. I need to give presentation on pitch book
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Like I said. Negative comment is one thing. It is best you go test the product. Cant get anything better with your budget.
Unless pandera999 has something up his sleeve.

EDIT : Can try to find second hand in the garage sales.

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Regarding on the Acer V Nitro

The current one is selling for RM3709 inclusive of GST , should i get that or the refreshment variant where the GPU is upgraded to GTX960M , which cost RM3999 inclusive of GST , is it worth?
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Regarding on the Acer V Nitro

The current one is selling for RM3709 inclusive of GST , should i get that or the refreshment variant where the GPU is upgraded to GTX960M , which cost RM3999 inclusive of GST , is it worth?
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Ok, so the question is whether the performance increase from 860 to 960 worth the price? You be the judge since your the buyer.

From benchmarks, 960 give a ~8percent boost compared to 860. Happy hunting. biggrin.gif

Source : http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-960M-vs-GeForce-GTX-860M
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForc...w.137893.0.html

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 7 2015, 11:19 PM)
Already got ipad. Dun like too much goods make me headache and some ebooks I downloaded from laptop needs to move.maybe coz ipad, maybe android better?

Moreover, I like 11.6inches and microsoft office presentation good with windows. I need to give presentation on pitch book
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look at Acer Aspire Switch 10 SW5-012 - 10.1" IPS Touch + Z3735 + 2GB + 32GB + 500GB + W8.1 Bing + Office 365 : RM1315
another is Acer Switch 11 SW5-171-337K - 11.6" IPS FHD Touch + i3-4012Y + 4GB + 60GB + W8.1: RM1820 but out of ur budget range.

Acer V3-112P-P0SJS 11.6” - RM1210 also have decent battery life. estimated is 7 hours on heavy usage.

for ur usage for presentation, i think switch 10 much suitable u. not much different in screen display as well as have detachable keyboard.. need type, its lousy to type on screen and a bit slow,then use keyboard. present ur work, detach it..

Low cost and detachable notebook. you can stand around during presentation cz its detachable nod.gif The Switch 10 is in the same price category as a Chromebook or mid-range 10-inch Android tablet.

fyi, there is always pros and cons between android and apple. but current apple product is different than steve jobs era sweat.gif as for android, its have a lots of supported apps but many bloatware as well doh.gif


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Like I said. Negative comment is one thing. It is best you go test the product. Cant get anything better with your budget.
Unless pandera999 has something up his sleeve.
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Apr 8 2015, 08:23 AM)
Regarding on the Acer V Nitro

The current one is selling for RM3709 inclusive of GST , should i get that or the refreshment variant where the GPU is upgraded to GTX960M , which cost RM3999 inclusive of GST , is it worth?
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u mean Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78SG – 15.6 IPS FHD + i7-4720HQ + 8GB + 1TB+8GB + GTX960 2GB + W8.1 : RM3550

better u go for Asus G551JM-DM052H – 15.6” FHD + i7-4710 + 4GB Ram + 1TB + GTX860 2GB + 6 Cell + W8.1 : RM3350
remaining money add the ram, max 16gb... that 4gb ram, u can sell laugh.gif

not much different gtx860 and gtx960..
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 8 2015, 09:09 AM)
look at Acer Aspire Switch 10 SW5-012 - 10.1" IPS Touch + Z3735 + 2GB + 32GB + 500GB + W8.1 Bing + Office 365 : RM1315
another is Acer Switch 11 SW5-171-337K - 11.6" IPS FHD Touch + i3-4012Y + 4GB + 60GB + W8.1: RM1820 but out of ur budget range.

Acer V3-112P-P0SJS 11.6” - RM1210 also have decent battery life. estimated is 7 hours on heavy usage.

for ur usage for presentation, i think switch 10 much suitable u. not much different in screen display as well as have detachable keyboard.. need type, its lousy to type on screen and a bit slow,then use keyboard. present ur work, detach it..

Low cost and detachable notebook. you can stand around during presentation cz its detachable  nod.gif  The Switch 10 is in the same price category as a Chromebook or mid-range 10-inch Android tablet.

fyi, there is always pros and cons between android and apple. but current apple product is different than steve jobs era  sweat.gif  as for android, its have a lots of supported apps but many bloatware as well  doh.gif 
sweat.gif sounds like i have something suspicious  laugh.gif
u mean Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78SG – 15.6 IPS FHD + i7-4720HQ + 8GB + 1TB+8GB + GTX960 2GB + W8.1 : RM3550

better u go for Asus G551JM-DM052H – 15.6” FHD + i7-4710 + 4GB Ram + 1TB + GTX860 2GB + 6 Cell + W8.1 : RM3350
remaining money add the ram, max 16gb... that 4gb ram, u can sell  laugh.gif

not much different gtx860 and gtx960..
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The price is without GST right?
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sweat.gif sounds like i have something suspicious  laugh.gif
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The price is without GST right?
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need to reconfirm again with shop and some seller.. many misleading price sometimes.  sweat.gif
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Yeap the price is without GST tho, lots of complain on Asus after sales service . Compare between G55 and v nitro which one better for you?
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Think of it this way. The extra from Acer is for the after sale service (if they are alot better than Asus). If not if you can look pass Asus after sale service, then go for Asus (Quality is good).
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Think of it this way. The extra from Acer is for the after sale service (if they are alot better than Asus). If not if you can look pass Asus after sale service, then go for Asus (Quality is good).
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To you , personally which one would you take tho?
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A quick search (I do mean quick search) about Acer after sale service wasn't pleasant. If i were to choose i go for the lesser evil. ASUS all the way (Quality is good), Acer do seem to have some (QC problem, I might be mistaken though.) Happy Hunting.
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Apr 8 2015, 09:16 AM)
Yeap the price is without GST tho, lots of complain on Asus after sales service . Compare between G55 and v nitro which one better for you?
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 6 2015, 04:29 PM)
Not to insult you or anything. But the MSI GE60/70 aint worth it because it still uses one fan and dual heatsink. If possible get the GE62/72.

As for 860 and 960, they are basically the same with the 960 slightly clock higher to gain some albeit small performance gain.
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Yeah man. By comparison the GE62/72 is using a new dual fan system so more efficient cooling for the 960M GPU (and i saw it has 3 m.2 SSD slots.)

860M and 960M are based off the same chip so the performance gain is about 7-10% based off the clock speed.

Got 2 friends who bought the new GE series and playing Battlefield: Hardline on it. Syiok!

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look at Acer Aspire Switch 10 SW5-012 - 10.1" IPS Touch + Z3735 + 2GB + 32GB + 500GB + W8.1 Bing + Office 365 : RM1315
another is Acer Switch 11 SW5-171-337K - 11.6" IPS FHD Touch + i3-4012Y + 4GB + 60GB + W8.1: RM1820 but out of ur budget range.

Acer V3-112P-P0SJS 11.6” - RM1210 also have decent battery life. estimated is 7 hours on heavy usage.

for ur usage for presentation, i think switch 10 much suitable u. not much different in screen display as well as have detachable keyboard.. need type, its lousy to type on screen and a bit slow,then use keyboard. present ur work, detach it..

Low cost and detachable notebook. you can stand around during presentation cz its detachable  nod.gif  The Switch 10 is in the same price category as a Chromebook or mid-range 10-inch Android tablet.

fyi, there is always pros and cons between android and apple. but current apple product is different than steve jobs era  sweat.gif  as for android, its have a lots of supported apps but many bloatware as well  doh.gif 
sweat.gif sounds like i have something suspicious  laugh.gif
u mean Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78SG – 15.6 IPS FHD + i7-4720HQ + 8GB + 1TB+8GB + GTX960 2GB + W8.1 : RM3550

better u go for Asus G551JM-DM052H – 15.6” FHD + i7-4710 + 4GB Ram + 1TB + GTX860 2GB + 6 Cell + W8.1 : RM3350
remaining money add the ram, max 16gb... that 4gb ram, u can sell  laugh.gif

not much different gtx860 and gtx960..
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Thanks. I like hp x360. I like flip mode than detachable. Detachable prone to defect and looks complicated? I think I should wait hp stream x360 or acer switch 11. However acer switch 11 price rm 2.8k not rm1.8k?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 8 2015, 11:02 AM)
Thanks. I like hp x360. I like flip mode than detachable. Detachable prone to defect and looks complicated? I think I should wait hp stream x360 or acer switch 11. However acer switch 11 price rm 2.8k not rm1.8k?
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switch 11 have few variant laugh.gif

the wise decision is, if u can wait, then just wait. and u can get many feedback from different kind of user too from each notebook user. nod.gif
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Guys, any recommendation for laptop 14" inch?
Girl user, for watching movies, listen song, light gaming, and surfing net.
Budget 1.5k to 2k.
Any brands will do, best for bucks laptop.
Thank you in advance!
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QUOTE(I'm CEO @ Apr 8 2015, 03:20 PM)
Guys, any recommendation for laptop 14" inch?
Girl user, for watching movies, listen song, light gaming, and surfing net.
Budget 1.5k to 2k.
Any brands will do, best for bucks laptop.
Thank you in advance!
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HP 14-r208TX 14” - i3-5010U + 4GB ram + 500GB + GT820M 2GB + W8.1 : RM1720/-
Lenovo Z40-70 5943-6166 – 14” FHD + I5-4210U + 4GB ram + 500GB + GT820 2GB + W8.1 + 1YR : RM1730
Lenovo Z40-70 5943-8428 – 14” FHD + I5-4210U + 4GB ram + 1TB + GT820 2GB + W8.1 + 2YR : RM1910
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Actually that model (Dell inspiron 3147t) is flippable.. sweat.gif  you can use it as tablet, though its quite heavy compared to detachable one.
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Hi Sifus

Please help recommend a suitable laptop for me

1. Preferred Brand : Asus, Lenovo
2. Budget : Rm3500 and below
3. Usage : Assignments (words, powerpoint) and watch movie
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14"-15.6"
5. Specs : At least intel i7, 8gb ram, good sound system (for watching movie)

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Need advice:
1. Preferred Brand: any brand
2. Budget: Any price
3. Usage: typing, web surfing, emailing, office stuff must be light as need to move a lot, battery good
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 13 inch
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Hi sifu.

Need advice:
1. Preferred Brand: any brand
2. Budget: Any price
3. Usage: typing, web surfing, emailing, office stuff must be light as need to move a lot, battery good
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 13 inch
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Asus
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/asu...rated-w8-1.html

Dell
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/del...intel-w8-1.html
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/del...intel-w8-1.html

HP
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/hp/...intel-w8-1.html
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/hp/...-1p-dg-w7p.html

Lenovo
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/len...ntel-w8-1p.html
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/len...rated-w8-1.html

EDIT
Some review
Asus
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/asus-zenbook-ux305

Dell
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/la...-1279013/review

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QUOTE(amarkun @ Apr 8 2015, 09:26 PM)
Hi Sifus

Please help recommend a suitable laptop for me

1. Preferred Brand : Asus, Lenovo
2. Budget : Rm3500 and below
3. Usage : Assignments (words, powerpoint) and watch movie
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14"-15.6"
5. Specs : At least intel i7, 8gb ram, good sound system (for watching movie)

Thanks a bunch for your help!!! wink.gif
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what feature more u want?? lighweight? powerfull gaming?
RM3.5k is overkill tho if oni for PP n muvie,

Acer V nitro is budget Gaming Laptop, around RM3.4K,
it shud do awesome job not oni for muvie, equiped with 12GB ram+1TB SSHD
multitasking+gaming also........

or else for bigger screen satisfaction for muvie try this 17inch RM3.2K
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/asu...t820m-w8-1.html

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Hi guys, i am looking for a laptop to do my engineering Final Year Project which is related to simulation. I prefer a laptop more like a budget gaming laptop.

1. Prefer brand - any
2. Budget - around RM 3500 (included GST xD)
3. Usage - Report typing, run engineering software such as CAD, mathlab, and simulations, and medium gaming
4. Prefer screen size 14' to 15.6' , the lighter the better, i7 processor, 8GB ram, 4 TO 5 hours of battery for normal use.

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hi, sifus

Please help recommend a suitable laptop for me happy.gif

1. Preferred Brand : Any
2. Budget : 2k-2.5k included gst
3. Usage : Assignments (words, powerpoint), medium gaming (dota 2 and others), run engineering software (CAD, simulation)
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14"-15.6"
5. Specs :any as long as can support my usage
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QUOTE(ivannorth @ Apr 9 2015, 12:56 PM)
Hi guys, i am looking for a laptop to do my engineering Final Year Project which is related to simulation. I prefer a laptop more like a budget gaming laptop.

1. Prefer brand - any
2. Budget - around RM 3500 (included GST xD)
3. Usage - Report typing, run engineering software such as CAD, mathlab, and simulations, and medium gaming
4. Prefer screen size 14' to 15.6' , the lighter the better, i7 processor, 8GB ram, 4 TO 5 hours of battery for normal use.

Thanks you very much guys!
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Acer Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-744NK – 15.6 IPS FHD + i7-4720HQ + 8GB + 1TB+8GB + GTX860 2GB + W8.1 : RM3320

Dell Inspiron 7548T 15”- i7-5500U + 8GB + 1TB + AMD R7-M270 4GB + W8.1 : RM3310

Lenovo Y50-70 5943-8435 - 15.6” FHD + I7-4710HQ + 8GB + 500GB SSHD 8GB + GTX860M 4GB + DOS : RM3200

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 9 2015, 03:17 PM)
Acer Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-744NK – 15.6 IPS FHD  + i7-4720HQ  +  8GB  +  1TB+8GB  +  GTX860 2GB +  W8.1 : RM3320

Dell Inspiron 7548T 15”- i7-5500U  +  8GB  +  1TB  +  AMD R7-M270 4GB  +  W8.1 : RM3310

Lenovo Y50-70 5943-8435 - 15.6” FHD + I7-4710HQ + 8GB + 500GB SSHD 8GB + GTX860M 4GB + DOS : RM3200

**Dos means no operating system. can install by your own. dont worry about the driver, there is always installation dvd together with it.
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7548 bezel like easy sppil le... 7537 look better
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Please help recommend a suitable laptop for me happy.gif

1. Preferred Brand : Any
2. Budget : 2k-2.5k included gst
3. Usage : Assignments (words, powerpoint), medium gaming (dota 2 and others), run engineering software (CAD, simulation)
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14"-15.6"
5. Specs :any as long as can support my usage
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Lenovo Y40-80 80FA001PMJ – 14” FHD + I7-5500U + 4GB + Hybrid 500GB + AMD Radeon R9-M275 2GB + DOS : RM2580
Dell Inspiron 7447 (Black, Red) 7447-21452G-W8 14” - + I5-4210+ 4GB + 500GB + GTX850M 4GB + W8.1 : RM2470/-
Dell Inspiron 7447 14” - I7-4710 + 8GB+ 1TB + GTX850M 4GB + DOS : RM2680
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 9 2015, 03:20 PM)
7548 bezel like easy sppil le... 7537 look better
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Izit.. never been an issue.. but its look like fragile though.. i use my colleague one.. seems good though... laugh.gif
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Izit.. never been an issue.. but its look like fragile though.. i use my colleague one.. seems good though... laugh.gif
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Izit.. never been an issue.. but its look like fragile though.. i use my colleague one.. seems good though... laugh.gif
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main issue with it is the horrible screen flex (which shouldn't happen on any product) and keyboard flex (which is acceptable compared to a screen flex).
basically for the price you are paying, having such flex is horrible.
just look at the review below, it would say a lot about the "quality" sadly.



QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 9 2015, 03:46 PM)
To me dell quality always better than common brand but some idiot out there fire me Kao Kao when I said 7548 good quality
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i'm sorry to be an idiot who post fact with proof in the older thread on something when you claim "good quality" on products that you are selling (video above) \s

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main issue with it is the horrible screen flex (which shouldn't happen on any product) and keyboard flex (which is acceptable compared to a screen flex).
basically for the price you are paying, having such flex is horrible.
just look at the review below, it would say a lot about the "quality" sadly.


i'm sorry to be an idiot who post fact with proof in the older thread on something when you claim "good quality" on products that you are selling (video above) \s
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thanks for enlighten me... notworthy.gif quite surprise.. i tot the bezel.. and i keep hold and look around the bezel laugh.gif dell sure fail abrasive testing.... i do notice the bezel looks fragile.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 9 2015, 03:17 PM)
Acer Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-744NK – 15.6 IPS FHD  + i7-4720HQ  +  8GB  +  1TB+8GB  +  GTX860 2GB +  W8.1 : RM3320

Dell Inspiron 7548T 15”- i7-5500U  +  8GB  +  1TB  +  AMD R7-M270 4GB  +  W8.1 : RM3310

Lenovo Y50-70 5943-8435 - 15.6” FHD + I7-4710HQ + 8GB + 500GB SSHD 8GB + GTX860M 4GB + DOS : RM3200

**Dos means no operating system. can install by your own. dont worry about the driver, there is always installation dvd together with it.
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The specs and price are very tempting. May i know where can i get the laptop for the price listed above? Also, may i know Lenovo Y50-70 what is the price if i want 512GB of SSD instead of 500GB HDD. Thanks
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Lenovo Y40-80 80FA001PMJ – 14” FHD + I7-5500U + 4GB + Hybrid 500GB + AMD Radeon R9-M275 2GB + DOS : RM2580
Dell Inspiron 7447 (Black, Red) 7447-21452G-W8  14” - + I5-4210+ 4GB + 500GB + GTX850M 4GB + W8.1 : RM2470/-
Dell Inspiron 7447 14” - I7-4710 + 8GB+ 1TB + GTX850M 4GB + DOS : RM2680
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sifu, wa..gtx graphic card laptop so cheap only? the price included gst? shocking.gif
among the 3, which is the best? blush.gif
and the DOS is ? hmm.gif

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thanks for enlighten me...  notworthy.gif quite surprise.. i tot the bezel.. and i keep hold and look around the bezel  laugh.gif dell sure fail abrasive testing....  i do notice the bezel looks fragile..  hmm.gif
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reason why there are loads of online reviews for most products.
nowadays, it's pretty hard for ppl to make bad purchase unless they are lazy to do their own research and just listen to agents/ promoters etc.
some would only consider the spec whereas some would consider the build quality as well (if you are looking for it to last).
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The specs and price are very tempting. May i know where can i get the laptop for the price listed above? Also, may i know Lenovo Y50-70 what is the price if i want 512GB of SSD instead of 500GB HDD. Thanks
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512ssd already cause you another extra thousand laugh.gif well, you can search seller in garage sales..

but so far, i dealing with these 2 seller. trusted seller. bought a lot of things from them.
numbertwo: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2446359
hikari85: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/992181

i believe in this thread also have seller. try to nego with any of them or any seller in garage sales with "trusted seller" tag. do check their transaction history too. if you still have doubt, i advice, you go to the shop yourself.

QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 04:33 PM)
sifu, wa..gtx graphic card laptop so cheap only?  shocking.gif
among the 3, which is the best?  blush.gif
and the DOS is ? hmm.gif
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Dos means, no operating system. u need install by your ownself laugh.gif yup.. that is very good budget gtx card.. with GDDR5... not like gtx850/gtx950 with ddr3 type..

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reason why there are loads of online reviews for most products.
nowadays, it's pretty hard for ppl to make bad purchase unless they are lazy to do their own research and just listen to agents/ promoters etc.
some would only consider the spec whereas some would consider the build quality as well (if you are looking for it to last).
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 9 2015, 04:40 PM)
512ssd already cause you another extra thousand  laugh.gif  well, you can search seller in garage sales..

but so far, i dealing with these 2  seller. trusted seller. bought a lot of things from them.
numbertwo: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2446359
hikari85: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/992181

i believe in this thread also have seller. try to nego with any of them or any seller in garage sales with "trusted seller" tag. do check their transaction history too. if you still have doubt, i advice, you go to the shop yourself.
Dos means, no operating system. u need install by your ownself  laugh.gif  yup.. that is very good budget gtx card.. with GDDR5... not like gtx850/gtx950 with ddr3 type..
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sifu, the good budget gtx card u said is gtx860m?
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 04:33 PM)
sifu, wa..gtx graphic card laptop so cheap only? the price included gst?  shocking.gif
among the 3, which is the best?  blush.gif
and the DOS is ? hmm.gif
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Well, I would go for the Dell Inspiron 7447 14” - I7-4710 + 8GB+ 1TB + GTX850M 4GB + DOS : RM2680. Better CPU compared to the rest. Top up to get Windows.

EDIT : Some charts

DO note the model.
I.E

i7 4710 MQ/HQ and i7 5500U. If wanna game get the MQ/HQ rather than the U version.

Link : http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5500...-Core-i7-4710HQ << CPU
Link : http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-M275-vs-GeForce-GTX-850M << GPU

Happy hunting. biggrin.gif

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sifu, the good budget gtx card u said is gtx860m?
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 04:57 PM)
sifu, the good budget gtx card u said is gtx860m?
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no3.. i mean.. that gtx850m is quite decent graphic card within ur budget.. 860 abit expensive

QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 9 2015, 04:58 PM)
Well, I would go for the Dell Inspiron 7447 14” - I7-4710 + 8GB+ 1TB + GTX850M 4GB + DOS : RM2680. Better CPU compared to the rest. Top up to get Windows.
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nod.gif true.. unless use jack-sparrow brows.gif brows.gif FOC

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Well, I would go for the Dell Inspiron 7447 14” - I7-4710 + 8GB+ 1TB + GTX850M 4GB + DOS : RM2680. Better CPU compared to the rest. Top up to get Windows.
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hmm.gif ya, as the difference of the price not so big... but then is that big difference of performance between the i5 and this i7? thanks for your concern bro
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hmm.gif  ya, as the difference of the price not so big... but then is that big difference of performance between the i5 and this i7? thanks for your concern bro
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I don't think you'd honestly feel the difference. Mind you, the i7 might be better for any application that takes advantage of Hyper-Threading, but I reckon the i5 4570 would still be better overall for your purposes.

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hmm.gif  ya, as the difference of the price not so big... but then is that big difference of performance between the i5 and this i7? thanks for your concern bro
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Oh yea, quite a big difference. Though ultimately the price difference is up to you since you are the buyer.

Link : http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4710...l-Core-i5-4210M
Link : http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4710...l-Core-i5-4210H

Two since don't know which i5 it is. tongue.gif and again Happy Hunting. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 9 2015, 05:03 PM)
I don't think you'd honestly feel the difference. Mind you, the i7 might be better for any application that takes advantage of Hyper-Threading, but I reckon the i5 4570 would still be better overall for your purposes.
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Well, as games going now. The extra horse power is good IMHO if he is going to use it for a few years. I reckon getting a better CPU is somehow "future proofing" well at least for a while. Since, the price is not that far brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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Don't think you can get GTX860m with your budget though. AFAIK, GTX860M starts around RM3K and above
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haha ya..i know that..

QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 9 2015, 05:00 PM)
no3.. i mean.. that gtx850m is quite decent graphic card within ur budget.. 860 abit expensive
nod.gif  true.. unless use jack-sparrow  brows.gif  brows.gif  FOC
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but the gtx850m is ddr3 right?

QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 9 2015, 05:03 PM)
I don't think you'd honestly feel the difference. Mind you, the i7 might be better for any application that takes advantage of Hyper-Threading, but I reckon the i5 4570 would still be better overall for your purposes.
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i5 4570?

QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 9 2015, 05:03 PM)
Oh yea, quite a big difference. Though ultimately the price difference is up to you since you are the buyer.

Link : http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4710...l-Core-i5-4210M
Link : http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4710...l-Core-i5-4210H

Two since don't know which i5 it is.  tongue.gif and again Happy Hunting.  biggrin.gif
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ok, i will consider about this... thanks sifus for the suggestion and opinion...sincerely appreciated.

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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 05:09 PM)
ok, i will consider about this... thanks sifus for the suggestion and opinion...sincerely appreciated.
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Look up to one of my post with the GPU comparison for future consideration. Happy hunting my man. flex.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 9 2015, 05:05 PM)
Well, as games going now. The extra horse power is good IMHO if he is going to use it for a few years. I reckon getting a better CPU is somehow "future proofing" well at least for a while. Since, the price is not that far  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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ya, sifu you are right, better CPU is somehow "future proofing"... the i7 may not be get outdated very soon compared to i5 hmm.gif

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sifu, 1more question... tongue.gif
is there many type of CPU.. as you stated.. MQ/HQ and also U... the dell 7447 is i7-4710hq means that it is better?

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sifu, 1more question... tongue.gif
is there many type of CPU.. as you stated.. MQ/HQ and also U...  the dell 7447 is i7-4710hq means that it is better?
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Usually, the model with MQ/HQ, H, M is better in the sense that it has more raw power compared to the U, Core M, Y as this is the low power model which also means less raw power but better battery life and less heat.
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nod.gif  true.. unless use jack-sparrow  brows.gif  brows.gif  FOC
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You do have something up your sleeves. hmm.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 05:09 PM)
haha ya..i know that..
but the gtx850m is ddr3 right?
i5 4570?
ok, i will consider about this... thanks sifus for the suggestion and opinion...sincerely appreciated.
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Yes... 850/950 is ddr3 type... ops... typo.. hahaha.. anyhow.. its i5 ulv... :nods:

QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 05:12 PM)
ya, sifu you are right, better CPU is somehow "future proofing"... the i7 may not be get outdated very soon compared to i5 hmm.gif
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Yes.. it is... but.. if ur graphic user.. go for i7... photoshop, rendering 3D , modelling auto CAD.. get i7... cz it will fully utilized the hyper threading of the core..

QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 9 2015, 05:39 PM)
You do have something up your sleeves.  hmm.gif  brows.gif brows.gif  brows.gif
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Yes... 850/950 is ddr3 type... ops... typo.. hahaha.. anyhow.. its i5 ulv... :nods:
Yes.. it is... but.. if ur graphic user.. go for i7... photoshop, rendering 3D , modelling auto CAD.. get i7... cz it will fully utilized the hyper threading of the core..
laugh.gif no la bro.. later police raid my house.. sweat.gif
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but sifu, i check at dell website its cpu is i5-4210h.. so its quite worth at this price... and donknow why the dell website i7 version not available ady.. rclxub.gif
i m not sure whether i m graphic user or not...i do use auto CAD, and i have check the price for both ady.. difference rm500.. not sure whether wan to take which 1... cry.gif
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 07:26 PM)
but sifu, i check at dell website its cpu is i5-4210h.. so its quite worth at this price... and donknow why the dell website i7 version not available ady.. rclxub.gif
i m not sure whether i m graphic user or not...i do use auto CAD, and i have check the price for both ady.. difference rm500.. not sure whether wan to take which 1...  cry.gif
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If I'm not mistaken. Only if you do 3D rendering then GPU is more important but if you are drawing and stuff it uses more CPU and RAM (Correct me if i'm wrong). Try checking the garage sale section, see whether people still carry the i7 version.
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 05:12 PM)
ya, sifu you are right, better CPU is somehow "future proofing"... the i7 may not be get outdated very soon compared to i5 hmm.gif
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My hp envy 14 i7 already outdated cpu score only 7 ma. So slow only 1.6Ghz
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 9 2015, 10:24 PM)
My hp envy 14 i7 already outdated cpu score only 7 ma. So slow only 1.6Ghz
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Which model? laugh.gif envy wat3... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 9 2015, 07:26 PM)
but sifu, i check at dell website its cpu is i5-4210h.. so its quite worth at this price... and donknow why the dell website i7 version not available ady.. rclxub.gif
i m not sure whether i m graphic user or not...i do use auto CAD, and i have check the price for both ady.. difference rm500.. not sure whether wan to take which 1...  cry.gif
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Bro since gst already implement, wait till u know full detail from Ur senior la.. then only decide
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 9 2015, 11:26 PM)
Bro since gst already implement, wait till u know full detail from Ur senior la.. then only decide
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btw r u a dell seller?
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ya gst haizzzzzz. cry.gif
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Which model? laugh.gif envy wat3... hmm.gif
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this.model super slow and overheat. In the end sold it for rm 1500 liao 2 years ago.
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-envy-14-12...0-gb-hdd/specs/

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 10 2015, 01:25 AM)
this.model super slow and overheat. In the end sold it for rm 1500 liao 2 years ago.
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-envy-14-12...0-gb-hdd/specs/
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5400rpm, that speed is normal. ya slow.. laugh.gif but 14", if i7 QM... its normal with uncomfortable heat... thats why.. if i7 HQ, QM better go 15". cz inside not that pack. back then, i think envy always overheat... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 10 2015, 01:25 AM)
this.model super slow and overheat. In the end sold it for rm 1500 liao 2 years ago.
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-envy-14-12...0-gb-hdd/specs/
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Wut?!?! My 3 to 4 years old Hp DV6 still kicking and doing fine. Can even game on it albeit mid to low settings.
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Definitely looking online review does help. Sometimes have to see overall thing, those reviewer are paid to review.
In the end, choose the 1 u like happy.gif
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 10 2015, 07:41 AM)
5400rpm, that speed is normal. ya slow..  laugh.gif  but 14", if i7 QM... its normal with uncomfortable heat... thats why.. if i7 HQ, QM better go 15". cz inside not that pack.  back then, i think envy always overheat... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 10 2015, 08:39 AM)
Wut?!?! My 3 to 4 years old Hp DV6 still kicking and doing fine. Can even game on it albeit mid to low settings.
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dv6 is one of the best HP machine ever have... laugh.gif
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dv6 is one of the best HP machine ever have...  laugh.gif
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5400rpm, that speed is normal. ya slow..  laugh.gif  but 14", if i7 QM... its normal with uncomfortable heat... thats why.. if i7 HQ, QM better go 15". cz inside not that pack.  back then, i think envy always overheat... hmm.gif
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Why qm better 15 inches? Even after sold it, buyer complained I sold the dusty inside notebook coz of overheat. Even i5 desktop not so fast compared with core duo.
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Why qm better 15 inches? Even after sold it, buyer complained I sold the dusty inside notebook coz of overheat. Even i5 desktop not so fast compared with core duo.
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More space for the heat to dissipate and also more space for the air to flow can cram better cooling system.
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Wut?!?! My 3 to 4 years old Hp DV6 still kicking and doing fine. Can even game on it albeit mid to low settings.
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Did you turn it on 24*7? I always turn it on 24*7 because I am lazy to wait the start up mode. Just let my laptop on sleep mode.
Amd? Amd is good and fast but don't know why my laptop with amd cannot last more than 3 years. Always have problem on keyboard. My fujitsu and acer keyboard after using amd processor not work for some keys. In the end must sell cheap.
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More space for the heat to dissipate and also more space for the air to flow can cram better cooling system.
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HP stream 11 even doesn't have a fan bro. So will it be overheat?
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HP stream 11 even doesn't have a fan bro. So will it be overheat?
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It is using the celeron type proc. Don't wory much about heat but do some maintenance from time to time like dust off the dust. If you are doing basic stuff, the proc wont heat up much.
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Did you turn it on 24*7? I always turn it on 24*7 because I am lazy to wait the start up mode. Just let my laptop on sleep mode.
Amd? Amd is good and fast but don't know why my laptop with amd cannot last more than 3 years. Always have problem on keyboard. My fujitsu and acer keyboard after using amd processor not work for some keys. In the end must sell cheap.
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I game on it 5-8 hours most of the time. tongue.gif , AMD proc compare with the same performance of its counterpart Intel will be more hotter because of the size of the transistor.
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It is using the celeron type proc. Don't wory much about heat but do some maintenance from time to time like dust off the dust. If you are doing basic stuff, the proc wont heat up much.
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how to diy dust off the dust? I never do that because the price of dust off the dust not cheap and we need to wait hours or even days at service center.
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how to diy dust off the dust? I never do that because the price of dust off the dust not cheap and we need to wait hours or even days at service center.
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Open up the laptop and use brush and compress air to dust it off.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 10 2015, 09:11 AM)
Did you turn it on 24*7? I always turn it on 24*7 because I am lazy to wait the start up mode. Just let my laptop on sleep mode.
Amd? Amd is good and fast but don't know why my laptop with amd cannot last more than 3 years. Always have problem on keyboard. My fujitsu and acer keyboard after using amd processor not work for some keys. In the end must sell cheap.
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i turn my notebook 24/7.. even my desktop too. amd since 2011 is very disappointing. even until now. i used to be amd fans.. but.. now.. i feel very disappointed. my laptop, amd phenom, still use until now. its been 4 years already.. almost 5.. still kicking. amd heat always been an issue too. amd notebook for gaming, need think twice.

QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 10 2015, 09:38 AM)
how to diy dust off the dust? I never do that because the price of dust off the dust not cheap and we need to wait hours or even days at service center.
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i clean it once in 6 months.. cz i 24/7 on.. and dust inside really accumulate very fast. reapply thermal paste... also helps a lot.. and i do it my own laugh.gif even i do service to my fren as well.. i open many kind of notebook..
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Open up the laptop and use brush and compress air to dust it off.
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Already opened at the back but no dust. Somemore will tear off the warranty seal. My acer warranty 3 yrs. I cannot open the front one very hard to open got keyboard bro. Can use vacuum cleaner?
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i turn my notebook 24/7.. even my desktop too.  amd since 2011 is very disappointing. even until now. i used to be amd fans.. but.. now.. i feel very disappointed. my laptop, amd phenom, still use until now. its been 4 years already.. almost 5.. still kicking.  amd heat always been an issue too. amd notebook for gaming, need think twice.
i clean it once in 6 months.. cz i 24/7 on.. and dust inside really accumulate very fast. reapply thermal paste... also helps a lot.. and i do it my own  laugh.gif  even i do service to my fren as well.. i open many kind of notebook..
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Where did you learn to open the notebook? Any diy guide?
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but sifu, i check at dell website its cpu is i5-4210h.. so its quite worth at this price... and donknow why the dell website i7 version not available ady.. rclxub.gif
i m not sure whether i m graphic user or not...i do use auto CAD, and i have check the price for both ady.. difference rm500.. not sure whether wan to take which 1...  cry.gif
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Hey bro,

Without more info on what AutoCAD program you're using, i suggest you follow what the sifu's here recommended and take which ever model has the better CPU for your budget.
Certain AutoCAD only requires dual thread on basic use but preferred is CPU with multi thread.

Another thing to consider is more RAM (8GB minimum) and faster storage (Dell should be using 5400rpm, save up and get SSD. hehehe)

Good luck bro and happy shopping! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 10 2015, 10:30 AM)
Already opened at the back but no dust. Somemore will tear off the warranty seal. My acer warranty 3 yrs.  I cannot open the front one very hard to open got keyboard bro. Can use vacuum cleaner?
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can, why not laugh.gif cz its sucks everything.. max the power.. wait the warranty finish.. then can open it

QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 10 2015, 10:32 AM)
Where did you learn to open the notebook? Any diy guide?
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erm, last time, my bro in law ( that time haven become bro in law), he teach how manage the screw and how to dissemble and assemble as well.. every laptop have their own design.. not all have same design and screw position.

can refer the vdeo below. for example.
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Hey bro,

Without more info on what AutoCAD program you're using, i suggest you follow what the sifu's here recommended and take which ever model has the better CPU for your budget.
Certain AutoCAD only requires dual thread on basic use but preferred is CPU with multi thread.

Another thing to consider is more RAM (8GB minimum) and faster storage (Dell should be using 5400rpm, save up and get SSD. hehehe)

Good luck bro and happy shopping!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Ok..thanks bro ..I will try to get the better if I afford to..

QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 10 2015, 10:37 AM)
can, why not  laugh.gif  cz its sucks everything.. max the power..  wait the warranty finish.. then can open it
erm, last time, my bro in law ( that time haven become bro in law), he teach how manage the screw and how to dissemble and assemble as well.. every laptop have their own design.. not all have same design and screw position.

can refer the vdeo below. for example.
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Sifu, the dell 7447 can add SSD?
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 10 2015, 10:49 AM)
Ok..thanks bro ..I will try to get the better if I afford to..
Sifu, the dell 7447 can add SSD?
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7447 gtx 850m.. enuf for u? coz ppl recommend u gtx 860m....
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7447 gtx 850m.. enuf for u? coz ppl recommend u gtx 860m....
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I think enough, they recommend gtx850m..
For dell 7447 can I add SSD ?
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Ok..thanks bro ..I will try to get the better if I afford to..
Sifu, the dell 7447 can add SSD?
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Should be able to. But SSD now is quite expensive, unless you get a caddy to swap your optical hardrive for SSD (Install OS in it and some Apps for fast response.)
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Already opened at the back but no dust. Somemore will tear off the warranty seal. My acer warranty 3 yrs.  I cannot open the front one very hard to open got keyboard bro. Can use vacuum cleaner?
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Err, if new dont need to do so. Open once in a while to clean it up. As for warranty seal, you need to call the service center to ask. If you are scared then send it in for maintenance since under warranty. It will be FOC.
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 10 2015, 10:49 AM)
Ok..thanks bro ..I will try to get the better if I afford to..
Sifu, the dell 7447 can add SSD?
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if u less use optical disk drive.. i suggest you remove the odd and replace it with SSD but put the ssd in the optical bay. tadaaa... have extra storage.. install ur OS on that ssd brows.gif brows.gif
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7447 gtx 850m.. enuf for u? coz ppl recommend u gtx 860m....
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I think enough, they recommend gtx850m..
For dell 7447 can I add SSD ?
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can.. when u claim warranty pandai pandai la.. u straight forward tell dell u change ssd sure gg
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7447 gtx 850m.. enuf for u? coz ppl recommend u gtx 860m....
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typo2 laugh.gif another few half thousand can get 860..

QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 10 2015, 11:05 AM)
Err no with his budget. He cant get gx860m, it was a typo from pandera999.
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Should be able to. But SSD now is quite expensive, unless you get a caddy to swap your optical hardrive for SSD (Install OS in it and some Apps for fast response.)
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Ok... happy.gif
QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 10 2015, 11:05 AM)
if u less use optical disk drive.. i suggest you remove the odd and replace it with SSD but put the ssd in the optical bay. tadaaa... have extra storage.. install ur OS on that ssd  brows.gif  brows.gif
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If don wan remove the odd juz add SSD also can right hmm.gif
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can.. when u claim warranty pandai pandai la.. u straight forward tell dell u change ssd sure gg
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Oic.. bro if u hav stock rmb quote me the best price happy.gif
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Ok... happy.gif

If don wan remove the odd juz add SSD also can right hmm.gif
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Yes, you can. But you need to clone your HDD stuff to your SSD then unmount your HDD and replace it with the SSD and a rule of thumb for me SSD price is around RM 2 / 1GB so imagine 500 GB SSD. Though liteon SSD is cheaper than the rest, check it out i suppose.

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If don wan remove the odd juz add SSD also can right hmm.gif
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nope.. no slot laugh.gif in case u rarely use ODD, also nvm... have cable.. can refer to this seller..

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Yes, you can. But you need to clone your HDD stuff to your SSD then unmount your HDD and replace it with the SSD and a rule of thumb for me SSD price is around RM 2 / 1GB so imagine 500 GB SSD. Though liteon SSD is cheaper than the rest, check it out i suppose.
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Wow really expensive..

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 10 2015, 11:15 AM)
nope.. no slot  laugh.gif  in case u rarely use ODD, also nvm... have cable.. can refer to this seller..

hdd/SSD caddy
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Have cable means external 1?
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QUOTE(chok_FuNG @ Apr 10 2015, 11:33 AM)
Wow really expensive..

Have cable means external 1?
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ssd is expensive... nod.gif

cable helps u to use odd to use externally...
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ssd is expensive...  nod.gif

cable helps u to use odd to use externally...
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Ohh which means the Ori odd replace with SSD then  buy an external odd if I need it?
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no need buy external ODD.. the current ODD that u replace it can become external ODD brows.gif just the ODD slot is now replace with ssd only. the cable is usb/sata which can turn the odd to external odd.. sounds good isnt it brows.gif brows.gif
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1. Preferred Brand:any brand
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3. Usage:study business admin,no lag while playing games
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Beautiful and slim design ,light weight below 1.5kg better
hardisk capacity:up to 500 GB
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1. Preferred Brand:any brand
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3. Usage:study business admin,no lag while playing games
4. Preferred laptop/screen size:any

Beautiful and slim design ,light weight below 1.5kg better
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Err, can give example of the games you'll be playing because high end games and slim laptop doesnt fit unless you don't mind spending ALOT and some cons.
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Err, can give example of the games you'll be playing because high end games and slim laptop doesnt fit unless you don't mind spending ALOT and some cons.
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just like the gta 5 game but quality playing the games between medium and low
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1. Preferred Brand:any brand
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4. Preferred laptop/screen size:any

Beautiful and slim design ,light weight below 1.5kg better
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gta 5 game, med or low... ermmmm below 1.5kg... i dont think u will get that notebook below 1.5kg.. unless below 2kg, might be have.. this is best bang for bucks brows.gif rclxms.gif

but 13" / 14"

ILLEGEAR Q3
-13.3" Full HD Anti-glare Display IPS Wide Color Gamut & Viewing Angle (1920 x 1080)
-Intel® HM87 Express Chipset
-4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor
-Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M 2GB GDDR5 with Optimus Technology (Maxwell)
-Up to 16GB Dual Channel DDR3L SDRAM at 1600MHz
-Backlit Keyboard (Color Options Available)
-Sound Blaster™ Cinema 2
-Two Onkyo Speakers
-Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 Capable
-Full HD Webcam and Built-in Microphone
-6-Cell Battery
-1.9kg with Battery and 2.5" Storage Drive
approx rm4300

GIGABYTE P34W v3
-14" Full HD Wide View Anti-glare Display (1920 x 1080)
-Intel® HM87 Express Chipset
-Intel® Core™ i7-4720HQ Processor
-Nvidia GeForce GTX 970M 3GB GDDR5 with Optimus Technology (Maxwell)
-Up to 16GB Dual Channel DDR3L SDRAM at 1600MHz
-Automatic Adjustment Backlit Keyboard
-Dolby® Home Theater® v4
-Two 1.5 Watt Speakers
-Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 Capable
-HD Webcam and Built-in Microphone
-Li Polymer 61.25Wh
-Supra-cool — Dual-heatpipe, Dual-vent and Dual-fan Cooling
-1.8kg with Battery and 2.5" Storage Drive
approx rm6699
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just like the gta 5 game but quality playing the games between medium and low
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Gigabyte
Gigabyte P34W v3 - 14" FHD / i7-4710HQ / 8GB / 1TB / GTX 970M 3GB D5 / Win8.1 : RM6199 <<weight 1.8Kg

Dell
Inspiron 7548T – 15” / i5-5200U / 8GB / 1TB / AMD R7-M270 4GB / W8.1 : RM3120/- <<weight 2.11Kg
Inspiron 7548T – 15” / i7-5500U / 8GB / 1TB / AMD R7-M270 4GB / W8.1 : RM3310/- <<weight 2.11Kg

Acer
Acer Aspire V7-582PG-74501225k – 15.6” FHD IPS / i7-4500U / 12GB / 256GB SSD / GT750 4GB / W8 : RM3830/- <<weight 2.2Kg

Razer
http://www.razerzone.com/ap-en/gaming-systems/razer-blade << Around 2Kg

Very hard to find the weight limit below 1.5Kg and still can game..... unless Your budget allow you to go around RM10k.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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no need buy external ODD.. the current ODD that u replace it can become external ODD  brows.gif  just the ODD slot is now replace with ssd only. the cable is usb/sata which can turn the odd to external odd.. sounds good isnt it  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Then you need 2 caddy bay right ? One for SSD and one for ODD ? hmm.gif

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The game is just example ,mostly i play is online game
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If you want thin and slim, your budget must be very high. Razer 2015, Aorus X7 or X3, MSI GS60/70 or Gigabyte P34W v3. All of these cost you about RM6k - RM14k depending on your configuration.
Those laptop will be hotter compared to other gaming laptop because they are slimmer. So you will most likely feel the heat more obviously than other model.
Just make sure you're getting from an authorized reseller of these brand, as you're spending a lot of money. Make sure you get one with good warranty and after sales service, since you pay so much mind as well get a premium services.
You can get MSI authorized reseller from MSI catalog. ILLEGEAR is selling Gigabyte and Aorus. Razer I'm not sure. Maybe try ask TechArmory ?
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 10 2015, 06:31 PM)
If you want thin and slim, your budget must be very high. Razer 2015, Aorus X7 or X3, MSI GS60/70 or Gigabyte P34W v3. All of these cost you about RM6k - RM14k depending on your configuration.
Those laptop will be hotter compared to other gaming laptop because they are slimmer. So you will most likely feel the heat more obviously than other model.
Just make sure you're getting from an authorized reseller of these brand, as you're spending a lot of money. Make sure you get one with good warranty and after sales service, since you pay so much mind as well get a premium services.
You can get MSI authorized reseller from MSI catalog. ILLEGEAR is selling Gigabyte and Aorus. Razer I'm not sure. Maybe try ask TechArmory ?

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Razer hv good spec launched this yr de?
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If i'm not mistaken it has been refresh with GTX970m. For the non pro version. The price though sweat.gif shakehead.gif shocking.gif
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If i'm not mistaken it has been refresh with GTX970m. For the non pro version. The price though  sweat.gif  shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
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the none pro not worth le... mad company really... haha
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Both also not worth for that price..... Heat and all.... Though DAMN NICE LOOKING drool.gif drool.gif . Pro version with 960gtx while non pro 970gtx. SAD REALLY.
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Both also not worth for that price..... Heat and all.... Though DAMN NICE LOOKING  drool.gif  drool.gif . Pro version with 960gtx while non pro 970gtx. SAD REALLY.
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can give me recommendation on a few laptop that has good IPS screen with graphics capable of gaming? Budget below 3k
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can give me recommendation on a few laptop that has good IPS screen with graphics capable of gaming? Budget below 3k
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Inspiron 7447 – 14” / I7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX850M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2940

Acer (If you don't mind topping up abit.)
Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-744NK – 15.6 IPS FHD / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB+8GB / GTX860 2GB / W8.1 : RM3320/-

Asus (If you don't mind topping up abit.)
G551JM-DM052H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 4GB / 1TB / GTX860 2GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3350/-

The only one i know with IPS screen.

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Dell
Inspiron 7447 – 14” / I7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX850M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2940

Acer (If you don't mind topping up abit.)
Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-744NK – 15.6 IPS FHD / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB+8GB / GTX860 2GB / W8.1 : RM3320/-

Asus (If you don't mind topping up abit.)
G551JM-DM052H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 4GB / 1TB / GTX860 2GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3350/-

The only one i know with IPS screen.
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Thanks. BTW r u sure about Inspiron 7447 having IPS screen??
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Thanks. BTW r u sure about Inspiron 7447 having IPS screen??
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Based on the review here on other thread. It says so.... if he is wrong then so am I.
Link : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3374715/all (Press ctrl+f then search ips for faster searching.)

Link : http://www.dell.com/my/p/inspiron-14-7447-...?oc=w511005myw8 << Based on this, IPS only on FullHD screen. (Again, ctrl+f)

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Razer if u use in air conditioned room the heat lesser than MSI... quality better than alot brands.. but too expensive de...
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That's why I said it cost A LOT. sweat.gif I didn't said it is cheap and affordable. TS want something thin and lightweight yet powerful enough. I doubt your XPS 15 is thin and powerful enough to play high end games with medium settings 1080p.

Everything comes with a trade off, just a matter how you coup with it. No everyone want laptop like Z5 or Acer V Nitro. They may want something lighter and thinner, well of course sacrifice some performance.

Razer at oversea is good, their premium service is better than Dell in MY. My UK friend is using it. Razer Pro is just a facepalm example doh.gif, but the SwitchBlade feature is quite interesting tho. New Razer Blade comes with 970m so I suggest it.

You can of course promote your Dell unit, but at least don't condemn other brand when you're promoting/suggesting your unit. If Razer is so OP and so not worth buying, how it survive until now ? smile.gif

P/S: FYI, new RazerBlade 2015 battery life is WAY better than XPS 15, it can last up to 6-10 hours for normal usage.
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 11 2015, 11:03 AM)
That's why I said it cost A LOT. sweat.gif I didn't said it is cheap and affordable. TS want something thin and lightweight yet powerful enough. I doubt your XPS 15 is thin and powerful enough to play high end games with medium settings 1080p.

Everything comes with a trade off, just a matter how you coup with it. No everyone want laptop like Z5 or Acer V Nitro. They may want something lighter and thinner, well of course sacrifice some performance.

Razer at oversea is good, their premium service is better than Dell in MY. My UK friend is using it. Razer Pro is just a facepalm example doh.gif, but the SwitchBlade feature is quite interesting tho. New Razer Blade comes with 970m so I suggest it.

You can of course promote your Dell unit, but at least don't condemn other brand when you're promoting/suggesting your unit. If Razer is so OP and so not worth buying, how it survive until now ? smile.gif

P/S: FYI, new RazerBlade 2015 battery life is WAY better than XPS 15, it can last up to 6-10 hours for normal usage.
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read my post again.... I asking him can xps15 wif gt 750m play those game... I did said sometimes back Tat Dell onsite services only good in smaller countries like MY n SG...

Razer heat is OK when u in air conditioned room... putochip123 had tried it..
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 11 2015, 11:26 AM)
read my post again.... I asking him can xps15 wif gt 750m play those game... I did said sometimes back Tat Dell onsite services only good in smaller countries like MY n SG...

Razer heat is OK when u in air conditioned room... putochip123 had tried it..
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Didn't you said "Razer got good laptop this year ?" or something similar ? I feel you kinda doubt it based on your previous post (I'm referring to your way of posting)
Yes you do said Dell onsite is good in some country only, but in the same time you also condemn certain brand right ?
Well if I said something wrong and I wrongly accuse you, I apologize. Sorry about that. smile.gif
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Then you need 2 caddy bay right ? One for SSD and one for ODD ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lautuckwa @ Apr 11 2015, 12:10 PM)
Got a present from my family ,

Asus G551JM-DM052H ,

anyone can share any details that make this laptop feel awesome ?

First laptop btw*
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asus G series click the link... can ask all the owners there. brows.gif i using G53SW before.. long time ago.. it definitely awesome... good heat flow.. well design build just like Jet.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 11 2015, 12:06 PM)
Didn't you said "Razer got good laptop this year ?" or something similar ? I feel you kinda doubt it based on your previous post (I'm referring to your way of posting)
Yes you do said Dell onsite is good in some country only, but in the same time you also condemn certain brand right ?
Well if I said something wrong and I wrongly accuse you, I apologize. Sorry about that. smile.gif
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Razer Pro only got gtx 960m.. u consider tat good? my Fren who seller of Razer told me they dun hv good spec coming in yet... not so soon becoz RM weak...
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 11 2015, 12:48 PM)
Razer Pro only got gtx 960m.. u consider tat good? my Fren who seller of Razer told me they dun hv good spec coming in yet... not so soon becoz RM weak...
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erm, i dont think reason cz of RM weak. customer have money.. they will spend it.. some rich fag sure will buy it.. esp razer fan boys. razer have good specs... but if they still want, they can order from razer store singapore.
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I want to find a very good laptop that capable to do CAD/CAE works and lot of simulation. Budget RM10k maximum.
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QUOTE(padlie @ Apr 11 2015, 12:52 PM)
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3d rendering? U need mobile workstation or laptop?

If u not moving around y dun get a workstation PC.. precision t5810 or t5610 wif 64GB ECC ram within Ur budget

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 11 2015, 12:51 PM)
erm, i dont think reason cz of RM weak. customer have money.. they will spend it..  some rich fag sure will buy it.. esp razer fan boys. razer have good specs... but if they still want, they can order from razer store singapore.
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Those MB just get pay raise.. sure got money.. haha.. however their spec r bit disappointing... I can get illegear DS wif PC CPU n gtx 980m at their price... doubtful of the build quality... putochip bought 1 Razer blade for review n he said the build quality not as good as its older brother...

Anyone can clarify it?
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Hi,
I want to find a very good laptop that capable to do CAD/CAE works and lot of simulation. Budget RM10k maximum.
Thank you.
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Dell Precision M6800 mobile workstation – 17.3” Ultra FHD / i7-4700MQ / 2X8GB / 1TB Hybrid Drive / NVIDIA Quadro K3100M 4GB / DVD / W7Pro / 3Yrs Pro Support / 9-cell : RM8400/-

Gigabyte
Gigabyte P35X v3 - 15.6" QHD+ / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / mSSD 128G*1 + HDD 1TB 7200rpm / GTX 980M 8GB D5 / Win8.1 : RM8599
Gigabyte X7 PRO - 17.3" IPS FHD / i7-4870HQ / 8GB x 2 / mSSD 256G*2 + 1TB 7200rpm / NV GTX 970M SLI 3GB*2 D5 / W8.1 : RM9999

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MSI WS60 2OJ 4K – 15.6” UHD 4K IPS / i7-4720MQ / 8GB X 2 / 1TB + 256 M.2 Sata / Quadro K2100M 2GB D5 / W7 Pro : RM10499/-
MSI WT60 2OK-4K – 15.6” UHD 4K IPS / i7-4810MQ / 8GB / 1TB / Quadro K3100M 4GB D5 / W7 Pro : RM12999/-
MSI WT72 2OM-1027MY – 17.3” FHD / i7-4720MQ / 8GB / 1TB / K2200M 2GB / W7PRO : RM9999/-
MSI WS60 2OJ-217MY – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710HQ / 8GB / 128GB SSD + 1TB / K2100M 2GB / W7Pro : RM8999
MSI GT72 2QD-672MY (Dominator) – 17.3” FHD A.G IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB / GTX970M 3GB D5 / W8.1 : RM7699/-
MSI GT72 2QE-671MY (Dominator) – 17.3” FHD A.G IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB x 2 / 1TB / GTX980M 4GB D5 / W8.1 : RM8999/-

Asus
G751JY-T7169H – 17.3 FHD / i7-4870 / 8GB * 3 / 1TB + 128GB SSD / GTX980M 4GB / W8.1 : RM7470/-

Illegear brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif (Desktop grade CPU)
http://store.illegear.com/d-series/103-illegear-d5.html
http://store.illegear.com/d-series/104-illegear-d7.html

Hmm, will be doing some reading on GTX VS Quadro GPUs.

Feel free to ask any questions.

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Dell
Dell Precision M6800 mobile workstation – 17.3” Ultra FHD / i7-4700MQ / 2X8GB / 1TB Hybrid Drive / NVIDIA Quadro K3100M 4GB / DVD / W7Pro / 3Yrs Pro Support / 9-cell : RM8400/-

Gigabyte
Gigabyte P35X v3 - 15.6" QHD+ / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / mSSD 128G*1 + HDD 1TB 7200rpm / GTX 980M 8GB D5 / Win8.1 : RM8599
Gigabyte X7 PRO - 17.3" IPS FHD / i7-4870HQ / 8GB x 2 / mSSD 256G*2 + 1TB 7200rpm / NV GTX 970M SLI 3GB*2 D5 / W8.1 : RM9999

MSI
MSI WS60 2OJ 4K – 15.6” UHD 4K IPS / i7-4720MQ / 8GB X 2 / 1TB + 256 M.2 Sata / Quadro K2100M 2GB D5 / W7 Pro : RM10499/-
MSI WT60 2OK-4K – 15.6” UHD 4K IPS / i7-4810MQ / 8GB / 1TB / Quadro K3100M 4GB D5 / W7 Pro : RM12999/-
MSI WT72 2OM-1027MY – 17.3” FHD / i7-4720MQ / 8GB / 1TB / K2200M 2GB / W7PRO : RM9999/-
MSI WS60 2OJ-217MY – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710HQ / 8GB / 128GB SSD + 1TB / K2100M 2GB / W7Pro : RM8999
MSI GT72 2QD-672MY (Dominator) – 17.3” FHD A.G IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB / GTX970M 3GB D5 / W8.1 : RM7699/-
MSI GT72 2QE-671MY (Dominator) – 17.3” FHD A.G IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB x 2 / 1TB / GTX980M 4GB D5 / W8.1 : RM8999/-

Asus
G751JY-T7169H – 17.3 FHD / i7-4870 / 8GB * 3 / 1TB + 128GB SSD / GTX980M 4GB / W8.1 : RM7470/-

Illegear  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif (Desktop grade CPU)
http://store.illegear.com/d-series/103-illegear-d5.html
http://store.illegear.com/d-series/104-illegear-d7.html

Hmm, will be doing some reading on GTX VS Quadro GPUs.
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If He require heavy 3d rendering then gtx series can almost keep away de... quadro n firepro design for those work... my Fren who sli gtx 980 his PC tried to do 3d job... very expensive to use gtx for 3d work..

Btw m6800 I finding i7-4900mq version wif the price u recommend tat ts.. hehe k5500m gpu

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 11 2015, 01:38 PM)
If He require heavy 3d rendering them gtx series can almost keep away de... quadro n firepro design for those work...

Btw m6800 I finding i7-4900mq version wif the price u recommend tat ts.. hehe k5500m gpu
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Well with some reading, GTX can give some performance boost to CADS since they are going to DirectX which GTX card uses and more CUDA cores < Should be faster.

But GTX card is built for SPEED compared to Quadro that is built for more PRECISION (more accuracy (more double precision floating point calculations) and special firmware/driver for special software such as CAD). So, it depends on the buyer.

Also, Quadro last longer and better warranty (It is what they said. LOL) and more ports for monitor.

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 11 2015, 01:41 PM)
Well with some reading, GTX can give some performace boost to CADS since they are going to DirectX which GTX card uses and more CUDA cores < Should be faster.

But GTX card is built for SPEED compared to Quadro that is built more PRECISION (more accuracy and special firmware/driver for special software such as CAD). So, it depends on the buyer.
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sometime if the buyer dun require move around I wonder y they dun wan get a PC to do stimulation stuffs...


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sometime if the buyer dun require move around I wonder y they dun wan get a PC to do stimulation stuffs...
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Some people prefer to move around and want some portability.
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 11 2015, 12:48 PM)
Razer Pro only got gtx 960m.. u consider tat good? my Fren who seller of Razer told me they dun hv good spec coming in yet... not so soon becoz RM weak...
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You're making up stuff yourself. Since when did I said Razer Pro is very good ? I said I recommend Razer 2015 which is the one with gtx970m as it is the latest spec they give compared to older model. I do said Razer Pro SwitchBlade is quite interesting tho, but that doesn't mean it is good for everyone. People have different task, stop putting your interest at others interest. You don't want doesn't mean others can't like it smile.gif

Aiya, everything change, you can't keep compare old stuff and don't move forward. If you keep insist on old Razer is better, you also need to take note the gpu is older which may not suit current high end game.

Razer has good display and also good battery life for a gaming laptop. You can game on it for about 3hours+, not to mention it is a small form factor and perform like plugged in.

This will go on to no where, I think I will just stop here. (again you failed to read what I'm actually trying to tell you. I'm actually trying to tell you: you can promote your unit, but don't condemn other brand while promoting your unit. Actually how many time is it already ? hahaha)

P/S: Just like Apple product, people buy it for its ecosystem and experience. Not just plain spec. I think you won't doubt Apple ecosystem right ?

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Hi sifu, please recommend a laptop with this requirement

1. Preferred Brand - Any brand except Acer
2. Budget - around 2k
3. Usage - Assignment,Dota 2 and normal surfing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 14"

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QUOTE(holyice @ Apr 11 2015, 03:07 PM)
Hi sifu, please recommend a laptop with this requirement

1. Preferred Brand - Any brand except Acer
2. Budget - around 2k
3. Usage - Assignment,Dota 2 and normal surfing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 14"

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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Inspiron 3443 (Black, Red) – 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2340/-
Inspiron 7447 (Black, Red) - 7447-21452G-W8 – 14” / I5-4210 / 4GB / 500GB / GTX850M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2470/-

HP
HP Pavilion 14-v232tx , v233tx, v234tx - 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 1TB / GT840M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2560/-
HP Pavilion 14-v227TX, v228TX, v229TX – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT830M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2010/-

ASUS
Asus A455LD (Red, White, Yellow, Black) – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2040/-


Assuming your around RM2k can be top up.

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 11 2015, 02:32 PM)
You're making up stuff yourself. Since when did I said Razer Pro is very good ? I said I recommend Razer 2015 which is the one with gtx970m as it is the latest spec they give compared to older model. I do said Razer Pro SwitchBlade is quite interesting tho, but that doesn't mean it is good for everyone. People have different task, stop putting your interest at others interest. You don't want doesn't mean others can't like it smile.gif

Aiya, everything change, you can't keep compare old stuff and don't move forward. If you keep insist on old Razer is better, you also need to take note the gpu is older which may not suit current high end game.

Razer has good display and also good battery life for a gaming laptop. You can game on it for about 3hours+, not to mention it is a small form factor and perform like plugged in.

This will go on to no where, I think I will just stop here. (again you failed to read what I'm actually trying to tell you. I'm actually trying to tell you: you can promote your unit, but don't condemn other brand while promoting your unit. Actually how many time is it already ? hahaha)

P/S: Just like Apple product, people buy it for its ecosystem and experience. Not just plain spec. I think you won't doubt Apple ecosystem right ?
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I did said those who dun need move around
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Heh, true. But since they in mobile computing I always assume they prefer mobility. Haha
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Unless he is boss or sales type.. need show ppl... then the laptop make sense
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 11 2015, 03:18 PM)
Dell
Inspiron 3443 (Black, Red) – 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2340/-
Inspiron 7447 (Black, Red) - 7447-21452G-W8 – 14” / I5-4210 / 4GB / 500GB / GTX850M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2470/-

HP
HP Pavilion 14-v232tx , v233tx, v234tx - 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 1TB / GT840M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2560/-
HP Pavilion 14-v227TX, v228TX, v229TX – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT830M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2010/-

ASUS
Asus A455LD (Red, White, Yellow, Black) – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2040/-
Assuming your around RM2k can be top up.
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Thanks sifu. notworthy.gif

I am interested in these 2 laptop. Which one will you recommend?

1. Asus TP500LN-CJ132H – 15.6 Touch / I3-4030U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840 2GB / W8.1 : RM1740/-
2. Asus K451LN-WX156H - 14" / i5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB / GT840 2GB / W8.1 : RM2130/-
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QUOTE(holyice @ Apr 11 2015, 04:12 PM)
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I am interested in these 2 laptop. Which one will you recommend?

1. Asus TP500LN-CJ132H – 15.6 Touch / I3-4030U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840 2GB / W8.1 : RM1740/-
2. Asus K451LN-WX156H - 14" / i5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB / GT840 2GB / W8.1 : RM2130/-
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Well, for Dota 2 it is best to get a good CPU in this case it is the i5 4210U as the GPU is the same can run fine. Both also good as the i3 and i5 benchmark performance isnt that far (Link : http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4210...-Core-i3-4030U). The performance increase is up to you to choose as whether it is worth the price.

Then it is the screen size. Do you prefer 15.6 or 14? Also, if you want to use the flip feature for TP500LN.

Both the spec is fine for what you are doing.

Get the one you prefer.

Happy hunting

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Well, for Dota 2 it is best to get a good CPU in this case it is the i5 4210U as the GPU is the same can run fine. Both also good as the i3 and i5 benchmark performance isnt that far (Link : http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4210...-Core-i3-4030U). The performance increase is up to you to choose as whether it is worth the price.

Then it is the screen size. Do you prefer 15.6 or 14? Also, if you want to use the flip feature for TP500LN.

Both the spec is fine for what you are doing.

Get the one you prefer.

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Alright, thanks for the recommendation. Helped me a lot. notworthy.gif
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Any alternative? The price normal for ASUS.. keep looking. Acer might hv better
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Any alternative? The price normal for ASUS.. keep looking. Acer might hv better
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He/She doesnt want Acer. Lol
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Ops. Dint see... low range I think Acer always hv better spec.. haha.. I got k45 3 yrs old de.. now fan not working Jor.. last Acer oso die bout the same period of time.. so low end 1 Build quality abang adik to me.. mind as well find better spec.. My 2 cents
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1. Preferred Brand - Any brand
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ASUS
Asus TP500LN-CJ132H – 15.6 Touch / I3-4030U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840 2GB / W8.1 : RM1740/-
Asus A555LD-XX206H (RED) : 15.6” / i5-4210U / 4GB O.B / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM1940/-

Acer
Acer Aspire E5-571G (Red, Silv, Copper) – 15.6” / i5-5200 / 4GB / 1TB / Nvidia 840 2GB / W8.1 : RM2030/-

Dell
Inspiron 3443 (Black, Red) – 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840M 2GB / DOS : RM2145/- (W8.1 : RM2340/-)

Lenovo
Lenovo Z50-70 5943-8432 (WHITE) – 15.6” FHD / i5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB Hybrid / GT840 4GB / W8.1 : RM2130/-

Feel free to ask any question.

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ASUS
Asus TP500LN-CJ132H – 15.6 Touch / I3-4030U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840 2GB / W8.1 : RM1740/-
Asus A555LD-XX206H (RED) : 15.6” / i5-4210U / 4GB O.B / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM1940/-

Acer
Acer Aspire E5-571G (Red, Silv, Copper) – 15.6” / i5-5200 / 4GB / 1TB / Nvidia 840 2GB / W8.1 : RM2030/-

Dell
Inspiron 3443 (Black, Red) – 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840M 2GB / DOS : RM2145/- (W8.1 : RM2340/-)

Lenovo
Lenovo Z50-70 5943-8432 (WHITE) – 15.6” FHD / i5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB Hybrid / GT840 4GB / W8.1 : RM2130/-

Feel free to ask any question.
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Prices already include gst?oh and yeah is the pricing varies between seller?
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Prices already include gst?oh and yeah is the pricing varies between seller?
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3d rendering? U need mobile workstation or laptop?

If u not moving around y dun get a workstation PC.. precision t5810 or t5610 wif 64GB ECC ram within Ur budget
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I need mobile workstation. Already bought workstation PC but I need to move around to three different places.
yup t5810 is enough but I need portable one.
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Dell
Dell Precision M6800 mobile workstation – 17.3” Ultra FHD / i7-4700MQ / 2X8GB / 1TB Hybrid Drive / NVIDIA Quadro K3100M 4GB / DVD / W7Pro / 3Yrs Pro Support / 9-cell : RM8400/-

Gigabyte
Gigabyte P35X v3 - 15.6" QHD+ / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / mSSD 128G*1 + HDD 1TB 7200rpm / GTX 980M 8GB D5 / Win8.1 : RM8599
Gigabyte X7 PRO - 17.3" IPS FHD / i7-4870HQ / 8GB x 2 / mSSD 256G*2 + 1TB 7200rpm / NV GTX 970M SLI 3GB*2 D5 / W8.1 : RM9999

MSI
MSI WS60 2OJ 4K – 15.6” UHD 4K IPS / i7-4720MQ / 8GB X 2 / 1TB + 256 M.2 Sata / Quadro K2100M 2GB D5 / W7 Pro : RM10499/-
MSI WT60 2OK-4K – 15.6” UHD 4K IPS / i7-4810MQ / 8GB / 1TB / Quadro K3100M 4GB D5 / W7 Pro : RM12999/-
MSI WT72 2OM-1027MY – 17.3” FHD / i7-4720MQ / 8GB / 1TB / K2200M 2GB / W7PRO : RM9999/-
MSI WS60 2OJ-217MY – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710HQ / 8GB / 128GB SSD + 1TB / K2100M 2GB / W7Pro : RM8999
MSI GT72 2QD-672MY (Dominator) – 17.3” FHD A.G IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB / GTX970M 3GB D5 / W8.1 : RM7699/-
MSI GT72 2QE-671MY (Dominator) – 17.3” FHD A.G IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB x 2 / 1TB / GTX980M 4GB D5 / W8.1 : RM8999/-

Asus
G751JY-T7169H – 17.3 FHD / i7-4870 / 8GB * 3 / 1TB + 128GB SSD / GTX980M 4GB / W8.1 : RM7470/-

Illegear  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif (Desktop grade CPU)
http://store.illegear.com/d-series/103-illegear-d5.html
http://store.illegear.com/d-series/104-illegear-d7.html

Hmm, will be doing some reading on GTX VS Quadro GPUs.

Feel free to ask any questions.
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Thanks for suggestions.
Maybe I will buy Dell. Not sure if Gygabyte, MSI, Asus and Illegear can provide good on site support as Dell.
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Thanks for suggestions.
Maybe I will buy Dell. Not sure if Gygabyte, MSI, Asus and Illegear can provide good on site support as Dell.
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True, Dell on site support is one of the best if not the best.  smile.gif
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I cannot buy Dell Precision M6800 online right?
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I need mobile workstation. Already bought workstation PC but I need to move around to three different places.
yup t5810 is enough but I need portable one.
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Mobility then take precision m3800 wif k1100m. Around RM
6000. With SSD n 1TB HDD. Weight around 2kg

M2800 n m4800 around 3kg.. n price from 5000-8000RM...

But all no stocks now
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I cannot buy Dell Precision M6800 online right?
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Tat thing as heavy as Alienware 17 le... 3kg plus.. but imba spec

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Ops. Dint see... low range I think Acer always hv better spec.. haha.. I got k45 3 yrs old de.. now fan not working Jor.. last Acer oso die bout the same period of time.. so low end 1 Build quality abang adik to me.. mind as well find better spec.. My 2 cents
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Why acer always got problem on fan not working?
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Why acer always got problem on fan not working?
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i dint say my acer fan prob....my acer hdd died after format 3 times..
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 12 2015, 10:38 AM)
Btw, thermal pad or thermal paste good for laptop? Heard thermal paste us useless for laptop while thermal pad better? HP and lenovo laptop good for precision and moving laptop while acer and asus will get problem easily on laptop if we are very mobile. My toshiba fell then the hard disk suddenly rosak
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u need thermal pad or paste to keep ur laptop from overheat...
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u need thermal pad or paste to keep ur laptop from overheat...
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Which one I need to change yearly?
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Which one I need to change yearly?
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Both apply at CPU n GPU rite.. dun really need change yearly.. when it worn out only replace
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Both apply at CPU n GPU rite.. dun really need change yearly.. when it worn out only replace
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Change both?
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rolleyes.gif  when it worn out only replace.. but mostly u only need 1 type...
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Dunno which type? Usually thermal paste right?
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Dunno which type? Usually thermal paste right?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 12 2015, 10:38 AM)
Btw, thermal pad or thermal paste good for laptop? Heard thermal paste us useless for laptop while thermal pad better? HP and lenovo laptop good for precision and moving laptop while acer and asus will get problem easily on laptop if we are very mobile. My toshiba fell then the hard disk suddenly rosak
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From years back from what i heard, thermal pad is usually for the GPU while thermal paste for the CPU. Pad last longer then paste. But paste is more than enough.

Acer i heard has QC problem (From what i heard.)

Hard disk is prone to damage if it is drop because of the moving parts. That is why if you have $$ get SSD more resilient.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 12 2015, 03:16 PM)
From years back from what i heard, thermal pad is usually for the GPU while thermal paste for the CPU. Pad last longer then paste. But paste is more than enough.

Acer i heard has QC problem (From what i heard.)

Hard disk is prone to damage if it is drop because of the moving parts. That is why if you have $$ get SSD more resilient.
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Acer HDD cannot format more than twice I heard from the salesman.. gg after tat de
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Acer HDD cannot format more than twice I heard from the salesman.. gg after tat de
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I highly doubt that. That sales man must have lied to you.

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I highly doubt that. That sales man must have lied to you.
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But my old c2d Acer HDD really gg after I format 3 times... current 1 dun hv this type of shit rite.
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But my old c2d Acer HDD really gg after I format 3 times... current 1 dun hv this type of shit rite.
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..... You should ask him for some numbers to bet on.

Joke aside.

HDD is not that fragile..... must be some defect on the HDD
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 12 2015, 04:58 PM)
..... You should ask him for some numbers to bet on.

Joke aside.

HDD is not that fragile..... must be some defect on the HDD
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batch problem mayb.. coz my fren who bought together oso facing it

but old de la... 6yrs de
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 12 2015, 03:16 PM)
From years back from what i heard, thermal pad is usually for the GPU while thermal paste for the CPU. Pad last longer then paste. But paste is more than enough.

Acer i heard has QC problem (From what i heard.)

Hard disk is prone to damage if it is drop because of the moving parts. That is why if you have $$ get SSD more resilient.
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So if drop ssd not damaged liao? I heard ssd lifetime very short only 3 yrs
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I highly doubt that. That sales man must have lied to you.
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If u run sap then convert gazilion data to excel I bet any hdd will be damaged. Did it at a week old Hp i5 desktop in my office biggrin.gif HP did not want to cover the warranty liao.

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So if drop ssd not damaged liao? I heard ssd lifetime very short only 3 yrs
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SSD doesn't require the "spinning" of disk to read/write data. So as long as the SSD and its component is intact, it will stick work (most of the time). That is also the reason why SSD generate significant lesser heat compared to HDD (I can't say no cause electric component sure will more or less generate some heat)

Well if you perform some serious intense hardcore read/write on your SSD everyday, it will GG after a few years. At least that is what I faced.
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If u run sap then convert gazilion data to excel I bet any hdd will be damaged. Did it at a week old Hp i5 desktop in my office biggrin.gif HP did not want to cover the warranty liao.
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Lol... I claim HDD n mobo from dell till the technician recognize me... Dell best to abuse the warranty... wat the reason HP dun wan replace for u
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So if drop ssd not damaged liao? I heard ssd lifetime very short only 3 yrs
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Traditional spinning hard disk would spoil when drop because the read/write arm might be damage (One of the important component) or the spining platter while SSD is like your normal pendrive but faster and better in quality.

Instead of a spinning platter and the read/write arm (The moving parts) they use the state of the solid to read/write from using microprocessor thus no moving parts thus less prone to damage.

Lifetime short might be because of the constant read/write. It will slowly destroy it.

Traditional spoil because of wear and tear while SSD is because of the electronics failure (Capacitor spoil, IC spoil ETC)

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What I meant by "new" ones are the unused ones. But can I know which Sony store you went to? Most of them stopped selling it because Vaio is not under Sony anymore.
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Lol... I claim HDD n mobo from dell till the technician recognize me... Dell best to abuse the warranty... wat the reason HP dun wan replace for u
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User problem misuse and abuse.
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Traditional spinning hard disk would spoil when drop because the read/write arm might be damage (One of the important component) or the spining platter while SSD is like your normal pendrive but faster and better in quality.

Instead of a spinning platter and the read/write arm (The moving parts) they use the state of the solid to read/write from using microprocessor thus no moving parts thus less prone to damage.

Lifetime short might be because of the constant read/write. It will slowly destroy it.

Traditional spoil because of wear and tear while SSD is because of the electronics failure (Capacitor spoil, IC spoil ETC)
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Traditional spoil because of the time or wear and tear? Means if we no using download movie to hdd or erase data on hdd then it will last longer?

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Would prefer if the laptop have SSD (or easy to upgrade to SSD without voiding the warranty)

any recommendation?
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Traditional spoil because of the time or wear and tear? Means if we no using download movie to hdd or erase data on hdd then it will last longer?
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Yup (wear and tear), if didnt use it frequently and keep it safe and sound. It will last longer (most likely).
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1. Preferred Brand - Any
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Would prefer if the laptop have SSD (or easy to upgrade to SSD without voiding the warranty)

any recommendation?
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With your budget, you wont be able to get SSD right out the box but be able to get Hybrid HDD. You may need to swap out the HDD to SSD or use a caddy to add in the SSD. Might need to call the service center to ask about voiding warranty.

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Asus TP500LB-CJ003H – 15.6” / I5-5200U / 4GB / 500GB + 24GB Msata / GT940M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2560/-
Asus TP500LB-DN002H – 15.6” FHD / I7-5500U / 4GB / 500GB + 24GB Msata / GT940M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2830

Acer
Acer Aspire E5-571G-76HB (Silver) – 15.6” FHD / i7-5500 / 8GB / 1TB / GT840 4GB / W8.1 : RM2780/-

Dell
Inspiron 7447 (Black, Red) - 7447-21452G-W8 – 14” / I5-4210 / 4GB / 500GB / GTX850M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2470/-
Inspiron 7447 – 14” / I7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX850M 4GB / DOS : RM2680

HP
HP Pavilion 14-v232tx , v233tx, v234tx - 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 1TB / GT840M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2560/-
HP Pavilion 15-p036TX(Natural Silver) : 15.6” / i7-4510U / 8GB / 1TB / GT840M 2GB / DOS : RM2280/-
HP Pavilion 15-p247TX, p246TX, p248TX - 15.6” / I7-5500U / 8GB / 1TB / GT840M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2760/-

Lenovo
Lenovo Z50-70 5944-2164 Black – 15.6” FHD / i7-4510U / 4GB / 1TB / GT840 4GB / W8.1 : RM2390/-
Lenovo Flex 2-14 5943-8532 – Red – 14” FHD Touch / i5-4210U / 8GB / 500GB / GT840M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2380/-

Feel free to ask any question.
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i'm in KL area... but sony center usually sell the same things. i'm at Kuching area.  sweat.gif i still saw few models (old model). yes. its since last year. viao now standalone
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Oh well, I guess I'll have to give up on finding Sony Vaio laptop.

But anyways, I need recommendations please.

1. Preferred brand - Any
2. Budget - Below RM 2k
3. Usage - Normal student usage, like some browsing lah...some gaming lah...some movies lah...some school stuffs (if have any)
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 14-15"
Plus, I want a laptop with Intel Core i5, 4GB RAM, Nvidia or AMD graphic card, Windows 8.1, and a good battery life for a Windows laptop. Thanks. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Apr 13 2015, 12:18 PM)
Oh well, I guess I'll have to give up on finding Sony Vaio laptop.

But anyways, I need recommendations please.

1. Preferred brand - Any
2. Budget - Below RM 2k
3. Usage - Normal student usage, like some browsing lah...some gaming lah...some movies lah...some school stuffs (if have any)
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 14-15"
Plus, I want a laptop with Intel Core i5, 4GB RAM, Nvidia or AMD graphic card, and a good battery life for a Windows laptop. Thanks.  biggrin.gif
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I'm assuming light gaming. With the budget, you'll get normal battery life 2-3 hours (depend on how you use).

Asus
Asus A455LD (Red, White, Yellow, Black) – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2040/-
Asus A555LD-XX206H (RED) : 15.6” / i5-4210U / 4GB O.B / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM1940/-
Asus A555LD-XX685H, XX686H (Black, Dark Blue, Red) : 15.6” / i5-5200U / 4GB O.B / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2040/-
Asus A555LJ-XX032H – 15.6 / I5-5200 / 4GB / 1TB / GT920M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2040/-

Acer
Acer Aspire E5-471G (Black, White, Red) – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / Nvidia 820 2GB / W8.1 : RM1930/-
Acer Aspire E5-571G (Red, Silv, Copper) – 15.6” / i5-5200 / 4GB / 1TB / Nvidia 840 2GB / W8.1 : RM2030/-

Dell
Inspiron 3443 (Black, Red) – 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840M 2GB / DOS : RM2145/- (W8.1 : RM2340/-)
Inspiron 3543 – 15” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 500GB / GT820M 2GB / DOS : RM1870/- (W8.1 : RM2055/-)

HP
HP Pavilion 14-v227TX, v228TX, v229TX – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT830M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2010/-

Lenovo
Lenovo Z40-70 5943-8428 – 14” FHD / I5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB / GT820 2GB / W8.1 / 2YR : RM1910/-
Lenovo Z50-70 5943-8432 (WHITE) – 15.6” FHD / i5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB Hybrid / GT840 4GB / W8.1 : RM2130/-

Feel free to ask any questions.

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1. Preferred brand - Any (except Acer, MSI)
2. Budget - Below RM 3k or additional RM200/300.
3. Usage - Surfing webside (5-6 tab), Movies, Dota2
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13-14"

Additional :
5. Light Weight (Ultrabook)
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7. i5 or i7
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QUOTE(Syac711 @ Apr 13 2015, 12:52 PM)
Hi, can help me for below request :

1. Preferred brand - Any (except Acer, MSI)
2. Budget - Below RM 3k or additional RM200/300.
3. Usage - Surfing webside (5-6 tab), Movies, Dota2
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 13-14"

Additional :
5. Light Weight (Ultrabook)
6. Nvida Graph
7. i5 or i7
8. Touch Screen (if possible, without also no problem)

Thank you in advance~
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Dell Inspiron 7447 14” - I7-4710 / 8GB + 1TB + GTX850M 4GB + DOS : RM2680
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Yup (wear and tear), if didnt use it frequently and keep it safe and sound. It will last longer (most likely).
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My gygabyte motherboard spoiled liao after I went overseas to study uni. 1 year no use then suddenly cannot turn on liao.why?
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My gygabyte motherboard spoiled liao after I went overseas to study uni. 1 year no use then suddenly cannot turn on liao.why?
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Anybody touch your stuff while you are gone?
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Anybody touch your stuff while you are gone?
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No one. Maybe because it's too dusty? Then I sent to service center they said spoiled liao sad.gif
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No one. Maybe because it's too dusty? Then I sent to service center they said spoiled liao sad.gif
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Dust wont spoil stuff unless there is heat involved. Service center dudes sometimes lazy to do diagnostics so just say spoil and stuff (From what i have experience).

Did they give anny explanation instead of just spoiled?
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Dell Inspiron 7447 (Black, Red)  14” + I5-4210 + 4GB + 500GB + GTX850M 4GB + W8.1 : RM2470/-
Dell Inspiron 7447  14” - I7-4710 / 8GB + 1TB + GTX850M 4GB + DOS : RM2680
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Official price for the i5 version is Rm2861 now. Is this from numbertwo?
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Official price for the i5 version is Rm2861 now. Is this from numbertwo?
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yup.. inclusive gst. as he said.. checking others seller, not much sell other dell unit. but can pm this seller Devour or myway. i only know they sell Dell. and i believe. they are trusted seller
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 13 2015, 07:43 PM)
No one. Maybe because it's too dusty? Then I sent to service center they said spoiled liao sad.gif
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which model?
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Hey guys, i'm helping my lil bro with his first lappy

1. that provide good warranty service
2. RM2k +-
3. Play runescape and assignment
4. at least i5 and 11.6-13"

weight around 2kg+-
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QUOTE(leggera @ Apr 13 2015, 08:52 PM)
Hey guys, i'm helping my lil bro with his first lappy

1. that provide good warranty service
2. RM2k +-
3. Play runescape and assignment
4. at least i5 and 11.6-13"

weight around 2kg+-
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check inspiron 7347, 7348

inspiron 11 no i5 model

thanks
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QUOTE(leggera @ Apr 13 2015, 08:52 PM)
Hey guys, i'm helping my lil bro with his first lappy

1. that provide good warranty service
2. RM2k +-
3. Play runescape and assignment
4. at least i5 and 11.6-13"

weight around 2kg+-
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Hmm, might squeeze in some 14 inch because of budget and your requirements. The mass would still be around 2Kg +/-
Don't think there will be 11.6 to 13 inch laptops with i5 that is within your budget albeit small amount.

Asus
Asus TP300LI-DW004H – 13.3 Touch / I5-5200U / 4GB / 500GB / GT920M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2370/-
Asus A455LD (Red, White, Yellow, Black) – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2040/-
Asus K451LN-WX156H - 14" / i5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB / GT840 2GB / W8.1 : RM2130/-

Acer
Acer Aspire E5-471G (Black, White, Red) – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / Nvidia 820 2GB / W8.1 : RM1930/-
Acer Aspire V3-371-52UKw – 13.3” FHD / i5-5200 / 4GB / 500GB + 8GB SSHD / Intel HD5500 / W8.1 : RM1930/-

Dell
Inspiron 3443 – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 500GB / GT820M 2GB / DOS : RM1865/- (W8.1 : RM2060/-)
Inspiron 3443 (Black, Red) – 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840M 2GB / DOS : RM2145/- (W8.1 : RM2340/-)

HP
HP Pavilion 14-v227TX, v228TX, v229TX – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT830M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2010/-
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/hp/...intel-w8-1.html

Lenovo
Lenovo Z40-70 5943-8428 – 14” FHD / I5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB / GT820 2GB / W8.1 / 2YR : RM1910/-
Lenovo Flex 2-14 5944-2275 – White – 14” FHD Touch / i5-4210U / 4GB / Hybrid 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2290/-
Lenovo Flex 2-14 5943-8532 – Red – 14” FHD Touch / i5-4210U / 8GB / 500GB / GT840M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2380/-

Feel free to ask any questions.

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Dust wont spoil stuff unless there is heat involved. Service center dudes sometimes lazy to do diagnostics so just say spoil and stuff (From what i have experience).

Did they give anny explanation instead of just spoiled?
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Nope. They suggested buy new MB. Now my Pc left at home 5 yrs as display only.haha
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Nope. They suggested buy new MB. Now my Pc left at home 5 yrs as display only.haha
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Yea, if they give me that reason. I'll be shouting for an explanation (Haha, i think it is just me tongue.gif ). When i send it to one of my friend he just take a look replace some battery clean up a bit and it works!!!
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check inspiron 7347, 7348

inspiron 11 no i5 model

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Thanks for your suggestion, i will look into it

QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 13 2015, 09:18 PM)
Hmm, might squeeze in some 14 inch because of budget and your requirements. The mass would still be around 2Kg +/-

Asus
Asus TP300LI-DW004H – 13.3 Touch / I5-5200U / 4GB / 500GB / GT920M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2370/-
Asus A455LD (Red, White, Yellow, Black) – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2040/-
Asus K451LN-WX156H - 14" / i5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB / GT840 2GB / W8.1 : RM2130/-

Acer
Acer Aspire E5-471G (Black, White, Red) – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / Nvidia 820 2GB / W8.1 : RM1930/-
Acer Aspire V3-371-52UKw – 13.3” FHD / i5-5200 / 4GB / 500GB + 8GB SSHD / Intel HD5500 / W8.1 : RM1930/-

Dell
Inspiron 3443 – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 500GB / GT820M 2GB / DOS : RM1865/- (W8.1 : RM2060/-)
Inspiron 3443 (Black, Red) – 14” / i7-5500U / 4GB / 500GB / GT840M 2GB / DOS : RM2145/- (W8.1 : RM2340/-)

HP
HP Pavilion 14-v227TX, v228TX, v229TX – 14” / i5-5200U / 4GB / 1TB / GT830M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2010/-

Lenovo
Lenovo Z40-70 5943-8428 – 14” FHD / I5-4210U / 4GB / 1TB / GT820 2GB / W8.1 / 2YR : RM1910/-
Lenovo Flex 2-14 5944-2275 – White – 14” FHD Touch / i5-4210U / 4GB / Hybrid 1TB / GT820M 2GB / W8.1 : RM2290/-
Lenovo Flex 2-14 5943-8532 – Red – 14” FHD Touch / i5-4210U / 8GB / 500GB / GT840M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2380/-

Feel free to ask any questions.
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Do you have suggestion for smaller size?

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Thanks for your suggestion, i will look into it
Do you have suggestion for smaller size?
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Can recheck my post. I edited it with additional notes.
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Can recheck my post. I edited it with additional notes.
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1. Asus, Apple, Lenovo, Dell
2. RM2k-RM4k
3. College assignments, minor games, need big space
4. 13"-16"

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Example of your minor games and could you explain "need big space" and do your assignments make full use of the IOS applications (IE Video editing coding etc)?

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Example of your minor games and could you explain "need big space" and do your assignments make full use of the IOS applications (IE Video editing coding etc)?
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Minor games like The Sims, GTA etc
I will be needing big space for my video edits and pictures. And even if theres alot of space taken I dont want my laptop to be lagged :/ then only I transfer them to my hard disc.
And having an IOS app is an advantage for me. But if my budget is low then I still can live without it and have other software for my video editing.
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Minor games like The Sims, GTA etc
I will be needing big space for my video edits and pictures. And even if theres alot of space taken I dont want my laptop to be lagged :/ then only I transfer them to my hard disc.
And having an IOS app is an advantage for me. But if my budget is low then I still can live without it and have other software for my video editing.
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Getting the gaming laptop is because of the i7 MQ/HQ for faster video editing and if you have extra budget left upgrade to the maximum ram allowed by the laptop system to further increase performance and the GPU can handle the games well. Also GTA (I assuming the latest is not minor sweat.gif ).

Asus
G551JM-DM053H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX860 4GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3920/-

Acer
Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-744NK – 15.6 IPS FHD / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB+8GB / GTX860 2GB / W8.1 : RM3320/-
Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78A2 – 15.6 IPS FHD / i7-4720HQ / 16GB / 1TB+128GB SSD / GTX960 4GB / W8.1 : RM4050/-

Dell
Inspiron 7447 – 14” / I7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX850M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2940

HP (Would not recommend this unless you dont mind the heat. I'm using one)
HP Envy Touchsmart 15 HP ENVY 15-q203TX – 15.6” FHD Touch / i7-4712HQ / 8GB / 1TB + 8GB NAND / GTX850M 4GB / W8.1 : RM3670/-

Lenovo
Lenovo Y50-70 5943-8437 – 15.6” FHD / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 1TB SSHD 8GB / GTX860M 4GB / W8.1 / RM3790

As for Apple, don't think you can get the performance as good as the above laptops for the same price point.

Feel free to ask any questions.

EDIT : The lagged part might be from RAM or the HDD which can be improve by adding more RAM and changing the HDD to SSD or your desktop is just too cluttered which can be improve by removing temporary files and the likes using softwares.

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3. College assignments, minor games, need big space
4. 13"-16"

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inspiron 7447 enuf de lo... xps all over budget...
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Minor games like The Sims, GTA etc
I will be needing big space for my video edits and pictures. And even if theres alot of space taken I dont want my laptop to be lagged :/ then only I transfer them to my hard disc.
And having an IOS app is an advantage for me. But if my budget is low then I still can live without it and have other software for my video editing.
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The "lag" you encounter most probably is due to the slow read/write speed of your HDD. So you got no choice but to get SSD if you want fast read/write speed. Your processor is unlikely to be bottlenecking.
If you do heavy intense editing, like real world stimulation + rich texture + shadow etc etc, it is recommended to get 16gb of ram. But with your budget it may not be the case.

FYI, if you want to use software from Apple store or you want to develop Apple store apps, you got no choice but to purchase a Mac.
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Hi ,

1. Preferred brand - Any
2. Budget - rm 3.5k
3. Usage - Gaming ( I tend to play new games but i don't mind playing it in lowest quality ) , Assignments in Uni , Net surfing
4. Preferred - screen size of 15'' is enough

Additional notes :
- good cooling system as i am a heavy user so i hope my laptop wont overheat easily
- easy to upgrade

p.s i saw the MSI GP60 2QF LEOPARD PRO ( gtx 950m 2gb ddr3 ) and the specs seems awesome considering the price ( 3.5k ) but i can't seem to find any review or video or display of this model , so anyone using this model can pls share their experience with it ? thanks

thank you for your help !
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QUOTE(AlwaysZero @ Apr 14 2015, 01:09 PM)
Hi ,

1. Preferred brand - Any
2. Budget - rm 3.5k
3. Usage - Gaming ( I tend to play new games but i don't mind playing it in lowest quality ) , Assignments in Uni , Net surfing
4. Preferred - screen size of 15'' is enough

Additional notes :
- good cooling system as i am a heavy user so i hope my laptop wont overheat easily
- easy to upgrade

p.s i saw the MSI GP60 2QF LEOPARD PRO ( gtx 950m 2gb ddr3 ) and the specs seems awesome considering the price ( 3.5k ) but i can't seem to find any review or video or display of this model , so anyone using this model can pls share their experience with it ? thanks

thank you for your help !
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G551JM-DM052H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 4GB / 1TB / GTX860 2GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3350/-
G551JM-DM053H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX860 4GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3920/-

Acer
Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-744NK – 15.6 IPS FHD / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB+8GB / GTX860 2GB / W8.1 : RM3320/-
Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78SG – 15.6 IPS FHD / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB+8GB / GTX960 2GB / W8.1 : RM3550/-

Lenovo
Lenovo Y50-70 5943-8435 - 15.6” FHD / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 500GB SSHD 8GB / GTX860M 4GB / DOS / RM3200/-

As for the MSI model it is prefer to get GE 62/72 and GT series as the newer model 62/72 has better cooling system but it is out of your budget. So far, best cooling system is the Lenovo (From what i have gathered.)

Feel free to ask any questions.

Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1aIMtjhSlo <<Review for Asus

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QUOTE(AlwaysZero @ Apr 14 2015, 01:09 PM)
Hi ,

1. Preferred brand - Any
2. Budget - rm 3.5k
3. Usage - Gaming ( I tend to play new games but i don't mind playing it in lowest quality ) , Assignments in Uni , Net surfing
4. Preferred - screen size of 15'' is enough

Additional notes :
- good cooling system as i am a heavy user so i hope my laptop wont overheat easily
- easy to upgrade

p.s i saw the MSI GP60 2QF LEOPARD PRO ( gtx 950m 2gb ddr3 ) and the specs seems awesome considering the price ( 3.5k ) but i can't seem to find any review or video or display of this model , so anyone using this model can pls share their experience with it ? thanks

thank you for your help !
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What heavy task you're doing ? If you don't want to spend too much, and are willing to just get an entry level gpu, Dell Inspiron 7447 will be sufficient.
Since you are okay to play on lowest settings of those high demanding game, so it should be fine for you.

FYI, there is no "easy upgrade" for low-mid range laptop. The most you can "upgrade" is RAM and HDD/SSD. CPU and GPU are soldered so you can't upgrade it.
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 14 2015, 03:30 PM)
What heavy task you're doing ? If you don't want to spend too much, and are willing to just get an entry level gpu, Dell Inspiron 7447 will be sufficient.
Since you are okay to play on lowest settings of those high demanding game, so it should be fine for you.

FYI, there is no "easy upgrade" for low-mid range laptop. The most you can "upgrade" is RAM and HDD/SSD. CPU and GPU are soldered so you can't upgrade it.
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-heavy using as in i tend to play games continously for a long time or using it continously for a long period of time so i dont want a laptop which overheats easily even with a cooling pad

-the upgrade i meant was like what you said upgrading in RAM / SSD / HDD , sorry if '' easy to upgrade '' meant differently as i have no experience in upgrading anything on laptops before >.<

-thanks for your recommendation on the Dell Inspiron 7447 , i'll look further into it
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QUOTE(AlwaysZero @ Apr 14 2015, 03:43 PM)
-heavy using as in i tend to play games continously for a long time or using it continously for a long period of time so i dont want a laptop which overheats easily even with a cooling pad

-the upgrade i meant was like what you said upgrading in RAM / SSD / HDD , sorry if '' easy to upgrade '' meant differently as i have no experience in upgrading anything on laptops before >.<

-thanks for your recommendation on the Dell Inspiron 7447 , i'll look further into it
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If you want decent gpu, get Acer V Nitro, the current best bang of buck. But you need to do some tweaking to get a good cooling.

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1. Preferred Brand: Asus/Dell/HP
2. Budget: 2500-3400
3. Usage: Movies, browsing, read/work, data crunching, small time gaming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 15.6" full HD touch

Other info:
not TOO heavy.
i5 500gb 7200rpm+24SSD sounds good.
good battery life
good bright screen (I heard some may have dim screens even though FHD.)

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If you want decent gpu, get Acer V Nitro, the current best bang of buck. But you need to do some tweaking to get a good cooling.
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4. Preferred - around 15" preferred good cooling

im still thinking whether to get a laptop or a small PC ( like Asus ROG GR8 )
prefer on the go though.
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Currently using Lenovo Z480 for 2 years plus. (i5 3210m/ GT 640m/ 4GB RAM) + 120 GB SSD (Intel 530)
Looking for an upgrade from this and something LIGHTER preferably.
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Good morning !

1. Preferred brand - Any
2. Budget - Around 1k and below
3. Usage - surfing, emails, fb games
4. Preferred screen size - 11, maybe 12

Used to something light and portable like previous MacBook Air 11, while waiting for new Macbook to arrive here, looking for something in the meantime. Read about the Asus Eeebook 205 getting good reviews, but haven't come across a demo unit yet. Came across a jot10 but not sure about the battery life.

Priority is light and portable, good battery life, value for money. I have no need for i7 ultrabooks as they will be underutilized.

Thanks in advance again, your previous recommendations have helped alot smile.gif
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QUOTE(工藤新一 @ Apr 14 2015, 11:43 PM)
1. Preferred Brand: except acer
2. Budget: below 3000 include microsoft office home and business (around RM700)
3. Usage: work
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14/15
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QUOTE(Bhelmouth @ Apr 15 2015, 01:52 AM)
1. Preferred brand - Any
2. Budget - rm 3.5k
3. Usage - Autocad , hardcore Photoshop ( need big space ) , 3d max rendering , dota and some new games. ( doesnt need ultra setting )
4. Preferred - around 15" preferred good cooling

im still thinking whether to get a laptop or a small PC ( like Asus ROG GR8 )
prefer on the go though.
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ROG is a good deal at the moment. others might be overprice such as MSI 62 series, Illegear.

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1. Preferred brand - Any
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3. Usage - Mostly surfing the net/ assignments/ movies/ a little games (Far Cry 3/ Call Of Duty)
4. Preferred screen size - Any

Currently using Lenovo Z480 for 2 years plus. (i5 3210m/ GT 640m/ 4GB RAM) + 120 GB SSD (Intel 530)
Looking for an upgrade from this and something LIGHTER preferably.
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these btm is good deal. get it.. worth.. even gtx850m is ddr3 type but its still much better than gt840m and gt940m
Dell Inspiron 7447 (Black, Red) - 7447-21452G-W8 – 14” / I5-4210 / 4GB / 500GB / GTX850M 4GB / W8.1 : RM2470/-
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QUOTE(g1bber @ Apr 15 2015, 07:53 AM)
Good morning !

1. Preferred brand - Any
2. Budget - Around 1k and below
3. Usage - surfing, emails, fb games
4. Preferred screen size - 11, maybe 12

Used to something light and portable like previous MacBook Air 11, while waiting for new Macbook to arrive here, looking for something in the meantime. Read about the Asus Eeebook 205 getting good reviews, but haven't come across a demo unit yet. Came across a jot10 but not sure about the battery life.

Priority is light and portable, good battery life, value for money. I have no need for i7 ultrabooks as they will be underutilized.

Thanks in advance again, your previous recommendations have helped alot smile.gif
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Hi all~

1. Preferred brand: Any, except Acer and Illegear (due to certain reasons i have to forget Illegear, i now its a good choice sweat.gif )
2. Budget - Around 5k and below, aimed for 4.5k(+/-) to allow extra for upgrade RAM or SSD, its optional tought, maybe no need too.
3. Usage - autocad, 3d modeling/rendering (works), high gaming sometimes
4. Preferred screen size - 15+ or 17+

i have planned to purchase MSI GE72-2QD (RM4.599) and now included GST already become RM5,199 !! that already created some dilemma to my pocket, therefor have to seek for other options. i have looking for GTX960m laptop on other brand yet only know MSI have them with my budgeted price, and Illegear too.

Up to date option, older MSI (GE70) or Asus ROG or Lenovo Y50....

Thanks in advance

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QUOTE(aryas @ Apr 15 2015, 02:02 PM)
Hi all~

1. Preferred brand: Any, except Acer and Illegear (due to certain reasons i have to forget Illegear, i now its a good choice  sweat.gif  )
2. Budget - Around 5k and below, aimed for 4.5k(+/-) to allow extra for upgrade RAM or SSD, its optional tought, maybe no need too.
3. Usage - autocad, 3d modeling/rendering (works), high gaming sometimes
4. Preferred screen size - 15+ or 17+

i have planned to purchase MSI GE72-2QD (RM4.599) and now included GST already become RM5,199 !! that already created some dilemma to my pocket, therefor have to seek for other options.  i have looking for GTX960m laptop on other brand yet  only know MSI have them with my budgeted price, and Illegear too.

now my eyes locked on older MSI (GE70) or Asus ROG....

Thanks in advance
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get Illegear z5 v2.

ILLEGEAR Z5

Custom Specifications
15.6" Full HD Anti-Glare Display IPS /AHVA Wide Color Gamut & Viewing Angle (1920 x 1080)
Intel® HM87 Express Chipset
Intel® Core™ i7-4720HQ Processor
Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M 4GB GDDR5 (Maxwell) (Default)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 970M 3GB GDDR5 (Maxwell)
8GB DDR3L 1600MHz SDRAM by default (Up to 16GB DDR3L 1600MHz SDRAM)
Seagate 500GB SSHD by default (1x SATA slot & 2x mSATA slots)
Backlit Keyboard with Four Programmable Macro Keys
Two Built-in Speakers & One Punchy Subwoofer
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 – WLAN & Blutooh 4.0 Combo.
HD Webcam and Dual Digital Microphone
Dual-heatpipe, Dual-vent and Dual-fan Cooling
8-Cell Battery
2.4kg with Battery and 2.5" Storage Drive
387 (W) x 274.5 (D) x 30.9 (H) mm
Ships in 2 to 4 business days. (Rush service is available)

Starting from RM4199

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3153031

seller below:

storm88: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...950&hl=illegear
Mr. Docter: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...103&hl=illegear

or PrinceJ
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hi,
Thanks for reply
due to some reasons, i have to forget Illegear. sad.gif , i know Illegear is the better choice...
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QUOTE(aryas @ Apr 15 2015, 02:02 PM)
Hi all~

1. Preferred brand: Any, except Acer and Illegear (due to certain reasons i have to forget Illegear, i now its a good choice  sweat.gif  )
2. Budget - Around 5k and below, aimed for 4.5k(+/-) to allow extra for upgrade RAM or SSD, its optional tought, maybe no need too.
3. Usage - autocad, 3d modeling/rendering (works), high gaming sometimes
4. Preferred screen size - 15+ or 17+

i have planned to purchase MSI GE72-2QD (RM4.599) and now included GST already become RM5,199 !! that already created some dilemma to my pocket, therefor have to seek for other options.  i have looking for GTX960m laptop on other brand yet  only know MSI have them with my budgeted price, and Illegear too.

Up to date option, older MSI (GE70) or Asus ROG or Lenovo Y50....

Thanks in advance
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G551JM-DM053H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX860 4GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3920/-

MSI
MSI GE62 2QE-006MY Apache – 15.6” FHD IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm / GTX965M 2GB / W8.1 : RM5099

Lenovo
Lenovo Y70-70 80DU009JMJ – 17.3 FHD Touch / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 512GB SSD / GTX860M 4GB / W8.1 : RM4920/- <<Straight up 512 SSD and just save up for future ram upgrade.

Well, for your budget Quadro and Firepro would be out of budget. So, the best is getting better GTX cards with the extra cuda core but less precision and software optimization. The i7 HQ/MQ would be sufficient. As for MSI GE70, i would not recommend it as the cooling system is not really good. While the 960M is faster than 860m it is essentially the same card with the 960m clock speed higher (Faster GHz).

Feel free to ask any question.
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QUOTE(aryas @ Apr 15 2015, 02:15 PM)
hi,
Thanks for reply
due to some reasons, i have to forget Illegear.  sad.gif  , i know Illegear is the better choice...
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erm, why hmm.gif any reasons? but compare to ROG (service after sales is sucks) and overprice MSI, still Illegear is ok. unless you want to get alienware, but AW is kinda, bad specs. not high enough compare ROG, MSI and Illegear. Lenovo is cheaper, quite worth to spend too
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 15 2015, 02:21 PM)
erm, why  hmm.gif  any reasons? but compare to ROG (service after sales is sucks) and overprice MSI, still Illegear is ok. unless you want to get alienware, but AW is kinda, bad specs. not high enough compare ROG, MSI and Illegear. Lenovo is cheaper, quite worth to spend too
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Aw is just OP if buy from dell la... haha... premium brand ma

Tat y need PPL like me n putochip to bring u guys discounted aw.. haha
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QUOTE(aryas @ Apr 15 2015, 02:02 PM)
Hi all~

1. Preferred brand: Any, except Acer and Illegear (due to certain reasons i have to forget Illegear, i now its a good choice  sweat.gif  )
2. Budget - Around 5k and below, aimed for 4.5k(+/-) to allow extra for upgrade RAM or SSD, its optional tought, maybe no need too.
3. Usage - autocad, 3d modeling/rendering (works), high gaming sometimes
4. Preferred screen size - 15+ or 17+

i have planned to purchase MSI GE72-2QD (RM4.599) and now included GST already become RM5,199 !! that already created some dilemma to my pocket, therefor have to seek for other options.  i have looking for GTX960m laptop on other brand yet  only know MSI have them with my budgeted price, and Illegear too.

Up to date option, older MSI (GE70) or Asus ROG or Lenovo Y50....

Thanks in advance
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Make up Ur mind.. rendering or gaming... precision m2800 n m3800 fHD around 4700.. but only medium low setting for game
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 15 2015, 02:17 PM)
Asus
G551JM-DM053H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX860 4GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3920/-

MSI
MSI GE62 2QE-006MY Apache – 15.6” FHD IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm / GTX965M 2GB / W8.1 : RM5099

Lenovo
Lenovo Y70-70 80DU009JMJ – 17.3 FHD Touch / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 512GB SSD / GTX860M 4GB / W8.1 : RM4920/-  <<Straight up 512 SSD and just save up for future ram upgrade.

Well, for your budget Quadro and Firepro would be out of budget. So, the best is getting better GTX cards with the extra cuda core but less precision and software optimization. The i7 HQ/MQ would be sufficient. As for MSI GE70, i would not recommend it as the cooling system is not really good. While the 960M is faster than 860m it is essentially the same card with the 960m clock speed higher (Faster GHz).

Feel free to ask any question.
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thanks,
yes the slower gtx860 was a little downside of those both models..

QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 15 2015, 02:21 PM)
erm, why  hmm.gif  any reasons? but compare to ROG (service after sales is sucks) and overprice MSI, still Illegear is ok. unless you want to get alienware, but AW is kinda, bad specs. not high enough compare ROG, MSI and Illegear. Lenovo is cheaper, quite worth to spend too
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yes.. couldnt agree more, but what to do... i even thinking go cheaper as like GP70 leopard pro.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(aryas @ Apr 15 2015, 02:28 PM)
thanks,
yes the slower gtx860 was a little downside of those both models..
yes.. couldnt agree more, but what to do... i even thinking go cheaper as like GP70 leopard pro..  cry.gif
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gtx800 series a bit sucks actually.. laugh.gif GP70 also a good choice brows.gif remember, heat will always kill the notebook.. sometimes, uneasy hot at palm rest.
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 15 2015, 02:34 PM)
gtx800 series a bit sucks actually..  laugh.gif  GP70 also a good choice  brows.gif remember, heat will always kill the notebook.. sometimes, uneasy hot at palm rest.
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haha.. finally got ppl agree wif me 800m series sux.. msi take only gt series la.. other all dun need look
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 15 2015, 02:34 PM)
gtx800 series a bit sucks actually..  laugh.gif  GP70 also a good choice  brows.gif remember, heat will always kill the notebook.. sometimes, uneasy hot at palm rest.
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I think that is not true in some part. GTX860m maxwell version is quite decent. It is the best budget range GPU during that time. GTX960m is just a rebrand of gtx860m with slight tweak. The performance improvement is not so significant also, but the price is about RM300 more. Eg: Acer V Nitro gtx860m is about RM3199 while gtx960m is about RM3499
So if you want budget and decent gpu, I think it is the way to go. GTX 960m price for me is not so worth it.

P.S: Most new gpu is a rebrand, whether it is AMD or Nvidia. (Except those flagship gpu or new tech gpu like from kepler to maxwell)

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 15 2015, 03:56 PM)
haha.. finally got ppl agree wif me 800m series sux.. msi take only gt series la.. other all dun need look
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I think GE62 and GE72 quite good lo.. Someone posted benchmark and the cooling ad.. 70 degree + when full load.. Very good tho.
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:09 PM)
I think GE62 and GE72 quite good lo.. Someone posted benchmark and the cooling ad.. 70 degree + when full load.. Very good tho.
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So when are you getting it? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 15 2015, 03:56 PM)
haha.. finally got ppl agree wif me 800m series sux.. msi take only gt series la.. other all dun need look
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laugh.gif in another nvdia thread discussion.. i was there laugh.gif

QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:08 PM)
I think that is not true in some part. GTX860m maxwell version is quite decent. It is the best budget range GPU during that time. GTX960m is just a rebrand of gtx860m with slight tweak. The performance improvement is not so significant also, but the price is about RM300 more. Eg: Acer V Nitro gtx860m is about RM3199 while gtx960m is about RM3499
So if you want budget and decent gpu, I think it is the way to go. GTX 960m price for me is not so worth it.

P.S: Most new gpu is a rebrand, whether it is AMD or Nvidia. (Except those flagship gpu or new tech gpu like from kepler to maxwell)
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800 and 900 is not much different..

QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:09 PM)
I think GE62 and GE72 quite good lo.. Someone posted benchmark and the cooling ad.. 70 degree + when full load.. Very good tho.
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:09 PM)
I think GE62 and GE72 quite good lo.. Someone posted benchmark and the cooling ad.. 70 degree + when full load.. Very good tho.
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but their GT series got mxm slot.. u know wat i into rite...
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 15 2015, 04:17 PM)
So when are you getting it?  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Got no $ for that.. My Z5 still rocking tho rclxms.gif

QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:19 PM)
800 and 900 is not much different..
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880m and 980m got quite huge different tho sweat.gif

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:20 PM)
but their GT series got mxm slot.. u know wat i into rite...
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Yea I know you're into MXM, but you tell people this ma >> "msi take only gt series la.. other all dun need look"
Not everyone is so rich like you ma sweat.gif
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:26 PM)
Got no $ for that.. My Z5 still rocking tho rclxms.gif
880m and 980m got quite huge different tho sweat.gif
Yea I know you're into MXM, but you tell people this ma >> "msi take only gt series la.. other all dun need look"
Not everyone is so rich like you ma sweat.gif
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actually GT series not very OP like other spec..n no overheat in tat spec... if not becoz their sales attitude like prostitute i would consider take 1 to review

correction... GT70 n below only...gt 72 n gt80 still freaking OP

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:26 PM)
Got no $ for that.. My Z5 still rocking tho rclxms.gif
880m and 980m got quite huge different tho sweat.gif
Yea I know you're into MXM, but you tell people this ma >> "msi take only gt series la.. other all dun need look"
Not everyone is so rich like you ma sweat.gif
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that is high end liao laugh.gif
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:27 PM)
actually GT series not very OP like other spec..n no overheat in tat spec... if not becoz their sales attitude like prostitute i would consider take 1 to review

correction... GT70 n below only...gt 72 n gt80 still freaking OP
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GE62 and GE72 no overheat issue also. The thermal management is quite good actually. Don't give up the whole forest just because of a tree laugh.gif
Got good got bad lar.. AW also very OP.. New or old also same. Take out their after sales service, their spec is just crap TBH. haha no offense tho. Cheapest is Asus rclxms.gif

QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:37 PM)
that is high end liao  laugh.gif
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Still 800 and 900 series ma.. if you want compare budget range lagi cham.. gtx960m is almost like gtx860m but more expensive.. laugh.gif
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GE62 and GE72 no overheat issue also. The thermal management is quite good actually. Don't give up the whole forest just because of a tree laugh.gif
Got good got bad lar.. AW also very OP.. New or old also same. Take out their after sales service, their spec is just crap TBH. haha no offense tho. Cheapest is Asus rclxms.gif
Still 800 and 900 series ma.. if you want compare budget range lagi cham.. gtx960m is almost like gtx860m but more expensive.. laugh.gif
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haih.. premium brand ma... like premium bandai oso.. same model but price up 30%... tat y need buy lubang unit.. keke...

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:57 PM)
GE62 and GE72 no overheat issue also. The thermal management is quite good actually. Don't give up the whole forest just because of a tree laugh.gif
Got good got bad lar.. AW also very OP.. New or old also same. Take out their after sales service, their spec is just crap TBH. haha no offense tho. Cheapest is Asus rclxms.gif
Still 800 and 900 series ma.. if you want compare budget range lagi cham.. gtx960m is almost like gtx860m but more expensive.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Apr 15 2015, 07:36 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Any brand reliable should be good

2. Budget - 5K and below

3. Usage -
Programming,
heavy youtubing(Good graphic),
heavy web browsing(4GB and above), <- Add more ram if necessary
CPU 2.4ghz above at least
Hard disc 500GB at least

4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 15" and above, not too large tho, as long as it fits into my laptop bag
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Xps15 wif qhd touch... discount now..
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Xps15 wif qhd touch... discount now..
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Oh, one more thing.

Preferably laptop that can be easily customize. Like changing parts, overclock etc.
Want to start playing with hardware.

My current lappy and desktop is very limited.
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Oh, one more thing.

Preferably laptop that can be easily customize. Like changing parts, overclock etc.
Want to start playing with hardware.

My current lappy and desktop is very limited.
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With your budget. Nope cant get any. Unless your "parts" is ram, hdd and OD. Best is to get desktop for that.

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With your budget. Nope cant get any. Unless your "parts" is ram, hdd and OD. Best is to get desktop for that.
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Oh, one more thing.

Preferably laptop that can be easily customize. Like changing parts, overclock etc.
Want to start playing with hardware.

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1. Preferred Brand - reliable

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3. Usage - business.svisual editing.light gaming (fifa/pes , red alert , some online gaming)

4. Preferred - 11-13" . below 2kg . i like portable laptop .
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either AW 15-17/Asus G751/MSI ??
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With your budget. Nope cant get any. Unless your "parts" is ram, hdd and OD. Best is to get desktop for that.
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15 - 17 inch
gaming and graphic rendering (photoshop and video editing)
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preferrable gtx 970m-980m
either AW 15-17/Asus G751/MSI ??
AW and Asus G571 good cooling and ventilation system, but MSI unsure
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illegear s5... aw17 get older version wif mxm
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For my requirement, what other brand/model I could get besides XPS 15 as suggested by other member?
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Illegear brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
http://store.illegear.com/ (Look for Z5, Q5,Q7) Forum link : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3153031 << Illegear thread

MSI
MSI GE62 2QE-006MY Apache – 15.6” FHD IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm / GTX965M 2GB / W8.1 : RM5099
MSI GE72 2QD-007MY Apache – 17.3” FHD / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm / GTX965M 2GB / W8.1 : RM5199

Asus
G551JM-DM053H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX860 4GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3920/-

Acer
Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78A2 – 15.6 IPS FHD / i7-4720HQ / 16GB / 1TB+128GB SSD / GTX960 4GB / W8.1 : RM4050/-
Link : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3489863 <<Acer thread

Lenovo
Lenovo Y50-70 5943-8437 – 15.6” FHD / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 1TB SSHD 8GB / GTX860M 4GB / W8.1 / RM3790 << Might have refresh to GTX960m
Lenovo Y70-70 80DU009JMJ – 17.3 FHD Touch / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 512GB SSD / GTX860M 4GB / W8.1 : RM4920/- << Might have refresh to GTX960m

Well with your requirement. You would be getting gaming grade laptops even though you don't seem to be gaming nonetheless you can't go wrong with it. (CPU at least 2.4 GHz).

As for reliability, illegear and dell have the good after sales service while Asus is the worst. All of them the cooling system is good except the Asus if i remember correctly (Acer need to do some tweaking).

Also, if not mistaken. You can easily swap the HDD,RAM and the OD.

Feel free to ask any question.

Sorry for late reply was doing some stuff and still doing some stuff. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Illegear  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
http://store.illegear.com/ (Look for Z5, Q5,Q7) Forum link : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3153031 << Illegear thread

MSI
MSI GE62 2QE-006MY Apache – 15.6” FHD IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm / GTX965M 2GB / W8.1 : RM5099
MSI GE72 2QD-007MY Apache – 17.3” FHD / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm / GTX965M 2GB / W8.1 : RM5199

Asus
G551JM-DM053H – 15.6” FHD / i7-4710 / 8GB / 1TB / GTX860 4GB / 6 Cell / W8.1 : RM3920/-

Acer
Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78A2 – 15.6 IPS FHD / i7-4720HQ / 16GB / 1TB+128GB SSD / GTX960 4GB / W8.1 : RM4050/-
Link : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3489863 <<Acer thread

Lenovo
Lenovo Y50-70 5943-8437 – 15.6” FHD / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 1TB SSHD 8GB / GTX860M 4GB / W8.1 / RM3790 << Might have refresh to GTX960m
Lenovo Y70-70 80DU009JMJ – 17.3 FHD Touch / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 512GB SSD / GTX860M 4GB / W8.1 : RM4920/- << Might have refresh to GTX960m

Well with your requirement. You would be getting gaming grade laptops even though you don't seem to be gaming nonetheless you can't go wrong with it. (CPU at least 2.4 GHz).

As for reliability, illegear and dell have the good after sales service while Asus is the worst. All of them the cooling system is good except the Asus if i remember correctly (Acer need to do some tweaking).

Feel free to ask any question.

Sorry for late reply was doing some stuff and still doing some stuff. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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For Ur record.. asus only bad In Kl.. other place I heard still OK.. overall bad is MSI(rep attitude), hp(blur rep, service dunno) n Acer(unprofessional service)...
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as GPU between GTX 960m and GTX 860m ... difference just 8% ..
does it really that small differences... just a Nvidia gimmick or trolls? hmm.gif

link: Info from GPUBOSS

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Illegear  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
http://store.illegear.com/ (Look for Q5) Forum link : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3153031 << Illegear thread

MSI
MSI GE62 2QE-006MY Apache – 15.6” FHD IPS / i7-4720HQ / 8GB / 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm / GTX965M 2GB / W8.1 : RM5099

Lenovo
Lenovo Y50-70 5943-8437 – 15.6” FHD / I7-4710HQ / 8GB / 1TB SSHD 8GB / GTX860M 4GB / W8.1 / RM3790

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Sorry for disturbing ya, but thanks for the recommendation, very nice!

illegear z5 too eye catching, I dont want people to target my lappy.
I think 17.3" screen too long for my bag.
Will avoid Asus and Acer then. I use lappy for long period, and run lots of program, heavy user, definitely will be very very hot.

By comparing illegear Q5 with MSI with Lenovo with Dell XPS15 which is best?
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as GPU between GTX 960m and GTX 860m ... difference just 8% ..
does it really that small differences... just a Nvidia gimmick or trolls?  hmm.gif

link: Info from GPUBOSS
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Yup it is true. 960 rebadge of 860 with higher clock speed (960 faster Ghz than 860) thats all if i remember correctly.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 15 2015, 11:27 PM)
Yup it is true. 960 rebadge of 860 with higher clock speed (960 faster Ghz than 860) thats all if i remember correctly.
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from a forum i read..

GeForce GTX 960M
GeForce GTX 860M Maxwell -8 %


Core clock base
860M - 1029 MHz
960M - 1097 MHz

Core clock Turbo

860M - 1097 MHz
960M - 1202 MHz

woooahhh.. really not much~

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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Apr 15 2015, 11:27 PM)
Sorry for disturbing ya, but thanks for the recommendation, very nice!

illegear z5 too eye catching, I dont want people to target my lappy.
I think 17.3" screen too long for my bag.
Will avoid Asus and Acer then. I use lappy for long period, and run lots of program, heavy user, definitely will be very very hot.

By comparing illegear Q5 with MSI with Lenovo with Dell XPS15 which is best?
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There r no best... just which u prefer... Lenovo is cheaper becoz build material bad, plastic feeling. Msi mid low range got heat issue..
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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Apr 15 2015, 11:27 PM)
Sorry for disturbing ya, but thanks for the recommendation, very nice!

illegear z5 too eye catching, I dont want people to target my lappy.
I think 17.3" screen too long for my bag.
Will avoid Asus and Acer then. I use lappy for long period, and run lots of program, heavy user, definitely will be very very hot.

By comparing illegear Q5 with MSI with Lenovo with Dell XPS15 which is best?
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If you're a heavy user. I suggest you get the one with good after sale service because of the way you use it and with good after sale service. Hopefully the problem will be resolved quicker and basically giving you a peace of mind. Do note the terms and condition of the warranty.

All the laptops cooling system will be able to handle the temp. Cant say much about XPS15 though since i dont know the specs.

In the end, choose the one you prefer. Happy Hunting. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif or wait for other sifu for their inputs. nod.gif

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 15 2015, 11:34 PM)
If you're a heavy user. I suggest you get the one with good after sale service because of the way you use it and with good after sale service. Hopefully the problem will be resolved quicker and basically giving you a peace of mind. Do note the terms and condition of the warranty.

All the laptops cooling system will be able to handle the temp. Cant say much about XPS15 though since i dont know the specs.

In the end, choose the one you prefer. Happy Hunting.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif or wait for other sifu for their inputs.  nod.gif
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Budget in during June, still have time to hunt. Anyway, thanks alot for the suggestion thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Apr 15 2015, 11:39 PM)
Budget in during June, still have time to hunt. Anyway, thanks alot for the suggestion  thumbup.gif
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Forgot to mention. The illegear wont charge GST until June (If i remember correctly). So, if you can. Go to the illegear thread and book one to avoid the additional charge if you have made up your mind.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 15 2015, 11:42 PM)
Forgot to mention. The illegear wont charge GST until June (If i remember correctly). So, if you can. Go to the illegear thread and book one to avoid the additional charge if you have made up your mind.
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why I could not configure this on dell website?
where to get this?
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why I could not configure this on dell website?
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