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ILLEGEAR RS 17 Evo or D7. If you want 15'' then RS 15 or D5.
Both are MXM slot and better price spec ratio. (I'm talking about gtx980m variant)

Too OP already I think. 6k get gtx970m better. The RAM is 4x4, later want change to 32gb or more need change a lot, if is 2x8 then good XD

I didn't say illegear cheap lar Please don't simply judge me.
What I mean is better get 970m ma, since you're buying the laptop for gaming. Ram won't matter much now though. CPU not so big deal cause not a lot of game is not using CPU intensely. (I just know BF4 64 man maps is cpu intense)
Got new AW which you can get 970m with that price, even though no MXM and support up to 16gb ram only.

P/S: I seldom suggest ppl illegear already you know. It looks like it's not the only option for good price spec ratio already.

This post has been edited by miong93: Apr 3 2015, 04:30 PM

Well I agree. 4720 and 4900 has big gap, but is it necessary ? 780m and 970m price different is also 1k+, not to mention about MXM type will be even more expensive.
It depends on your standard of valuable. Manufacturer is trying to obsolete MXM from the market so they feels than soldered unit got more "sales" value. I feel it is valuable because there are very limited unit in the market.
I just feel that may be there is better option, which the penny spent is worth every cent without having something which is too overpowered but not necessary.
Sorry lar if I did or sound offending to you
I will stop commenting about people choices from now.

Well yea. That's why I afraid there is a time when MXM is completely out of the market. Then you gonna waste your money as you won't be getting any supposed upgrade option already.
I am leaning toward better gpu than extreme cpu, not both. I will go for gtx970m because I would like to play Far Cry 4, Witcher 3, StarCitizen etc etc on high settings and 1080p.

You also said there is no point in getting latest spec, why getting extreme cpu when it is not even needed ? at least GPU can helps you to play high demanding game on a good settings, while extreme cpu hardly will benefit. (it can benefit on some games, but comparing it with gpu, a better gpu brings more benefit than cpu itself)

Your friend built 980 sli most probably is because he want to game on 4k. If not he is just damn rich. Single 980 is sufficient for almost all game in 1080p. The reason to go for high end is because it will definitely last you long enough to play almost all games in high settings 1080p or above. CPU is essential of course, but not as important when compared to gpu in term of gaming.

I just feel that, from my point of view, if it is given the same price of both old and new gpu, I will go for the new one. Especially the new one generate lesser heat and draw lesser power.

Edit : Maybe the reason it is underpriced is because the initial base price is already overpriced ? haha (I'm joking.. don't take it too serious )

This post has been edited by miong93: Apr 3 2015, 07:18 PM

See. This is the world we're living in. Those who don't know how to unlock HDD can manage to get 980 SLI rig. Those who know and needed the rig can't even get a single 980. haha

800 series is not as hot as previous series. At least for maxwell variant. Kepler is hotter. So I can assume 780m is hotter than 860m. But you can't really compare a high end gpu (at least at that time) with a budget one. Of course high end one will generate more heat

I think it is the user fault lar. How to max out a quad core processor with excel file ? I didn't heard of it before. I heard of insufficient of RAM due to too large data size but not this. If it is related to the excel/data file size, most probably is he/she didn't do normalization lo, just dump everything into the file sure will encounter issue when the file become big.

That is why I said split the data and perform normalization lo. Ya i have seen it before. In MIMOS you can even see bigger file. lol

Ikr, this is the first time I heard cpu affect excel. Well there do have company who is still using excel file to have their data stored and accessed. Even oil and gas company is using it. One of the reason they choose to do this is because it is cheaper compared to business solution like CMS. Most complete CMS in the market cost quite some money, which they find it not necessary. Even some of MIMOS data is using excel to do it, including semantic web data. My friend intern at there, his first job is to do data cleaning, damn sad

Of course they did it in a good way, with normalization and splitting of data into different file and not dumping everything in one file

Disk speed and amount of RAM affect it. The slower your HDD, the slower you load in your data, so you see a hang or lag when you open the file. RAM also affect, when your data is so big, you just got 4gb of ram, there is not enough ram to keep hold of your data, so you will face the same things again. So next time check first before assuming the thing like extreme cpu is needed.

Z5 have best cooling among all ILLEGEAR laptop, 970m variant.
S5 have better upgrade-ability than Z5.

That's the point. What you intend to do with extreme processor. A normal 4720HQ will do the job just fine. You quite of contradict yourself. Everything want to get the best, but why not GPU ? haha

FYI, if you are planning to use windows 8, the recommended RAM is 4gb. The OS itself already take up quite some RAM already.

Everything comes with a price. If you want performance, it will be thicker and heavier. They are able to price ultrabook at that price range is because of how the architecture differ with other laptops. No manufacturer will invest and research into making a thinner laptop and release it with cheap price. You can say it is "one-of-a-kind" in the market.

For touch screen, if you didn't use it much, then I think there is no use in purchasing it. Even if there is touch screen, I find it useless if the screen is un-detachable.

A piece of advice, if you are going to get ultrabook, make sure the spec you purchase can last you quite long. At least for basic stuff. Most important make sure RAM and Storage is sufficient for you. Most ultrabook is using soldered component including RAM. So almost no upgrade option.

P/S: I think if you're a matte display fan, touch screen is not your cup of tea. If I'm not mistaken, touch screen is using glossy reflective screen.

This post has been edited by miong93: Apr 5 2015, 04:51 PM

Isn't G series already ROG ?

First of all, are you planning to game or not ? Please do specify it in a more straight forward way. From what I read, it seems like you didn't want to game at all. Please don't keep using strikethrough words. If it is not meant for others to read, just DELETE it. We're here to help you, so please shorten down your question and statement. No point reading unnecessary stuff.

If you're not going to game at all, you opt to get business grade laptop like Thinkpad, Latitude or Elitebook. You don't have to concern about the battery, stay plugged in is not a big deal for laptops nowadays. A lot of laptop is leaning to built in battery design now. Your laptop battery will die eventually even though you detach it and didn't use it at all.

For programming, you don't have to have a beastly machine to do those coding. 4710HQ is sufficient enough. For virtual machine, if you're really into heavy VM and multi tasking, recommended are 8GB at least. Most laptop which cost > 3.5k will not be using onboard RAM and most is equipped with 8GB ram and up to 16gb min ram. (Exclude ultrabook)

For you, I think Latitude and Thinkpad suits you more since you're working most of the time. Just make sure your gpu is quad core and 8gb of ram. SSD is a plus but not necessary. Why I suggest quad core is maybe your project requires you utilize multi core / you're writing programs which utilize multi core.

If you want to game, with your budget you have not much choice. If you don't want Z5, you need to top up to get S5. Y50 I personally don't like it as the built quality is not as good as Asus. Its screen sucks also (go find out why it sucks yourself, it has been mentioned a lot of time in this section). If you're not playing those High demanding games, gtx950m or 850m is sufficient for you. Like Dell Inspiron 7447.

Erm can I know what is the HDD ? Faster than 7200rpm ?

I'm not denying anything though. I'm interested in it cause I'm planning to switch to a different HDD if there is a HDD which is faster than 7200rpm. Not going for SSD though.

Yea that's why I'm interested to know lo. Since he said faster.

If you want an ultrabook, you can't expect a powerful yet latest processor
New mb is using intel-M processor. The fan-less one. It is good for normal usage, but if you stress it then it will be a different story.
You can consider Dell XPS 13, MB or Yoga 2

P/S: I assume your casual gaming is not playing those high demanding game like Watch Dogs or COD.
P/SS: Most ultrabook is using onboard RAM, CPU and even HDD/SSD. So upgrade-wise may be a little bit more limited.

This post has been edited by miong93: Apr 7 2015, 02:32 PM

Or wait for Surface 3. Even though the spec is lower, it should do fine if you're just doing stuff like browsing and some words processing.