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post Apr 3 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 3 2015, 08:55 PM)
bro u got no idea how big his excel file.... canon malaysia account team ppl.. his excel file by GBs... the coding he use by hundred i think.. haha
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excel have a very small hard cap on number of data and people would be using a MS_Access or actually a database instead of excel for such data what more a MNC company (which would have service solutions)...
don't simply sprout stuff just to sell your product =.="
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post Apr 3 2015, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 3 2015, 09:55 PM)
U wan Mr. Wong Number to clarify....
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https://support.office.com/en-nz/article/Ex...27-269d656771c3

i rest my case.
any1 who ever handled large data, what more MNCs would know to never ever use Excel (no IT solutions in their sane mind would ever recommend it).
no point arguing with someone who do not even know the existence of a hard cap in excel doh.gif

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post Apr 3 2015, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 3 2015, 09:59 PM)
Ic.... he just told me wat he went thru lo... does the stupid 5400rpm HDD affect the speed? I means excel... becoz after change to SSD the thing no more... smooth..

The biggest I saw was 6GB... by ex account director of dynabook group... include cart n projection...was tat my error or something else..
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file IO uses the disc much more than the processor (close to 0 processor usage), so there is ur answer.
in excel, the processor only comes in during calculations.
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post Apr 5 2015, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:39 PM)
I know.. but vostro 5480 almost cannot upgrade.. n I can tell u the heat will make it slow... does it even hv a fan in tat thin casing...
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:41 PM)
u n y series worst in multitasking... m is better.. but core m is slow..
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i really wonder why are you giving recommendations when you clearly do not know what you are talking about doh.gif
clearly most of your post are just for your self gain of selling your own products sweat.gif

1. the only fanless design around is the M-series. Vostro do have fans and the new 14nm proc is even better in heat management
2. the intel M-series they are talking about is the new fanless one and it is successor for the Y-series (http://blog.laptopmag.com/intel-core-m-details)

ps: note the prefix vs suffix of the 'M'.

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post Apr 5 2015, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 5 2015, 03:08 PM)
I m talking bout the multitasking only...or along the way we mix up core m n Pentium M...
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to quote the initial post
QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 12:27 PM)
this is the part where I wish that I am rich and just buy the new XPS 13 sad.gif

is Pentium M enough? that is the question  rclxub.gif
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The proc from the post is: Intel® Core™ M-5Y10-0.8GHz
either way, you are wrong when you said it is slower but better in multitasking when it isn't (once again, prefix-M).
even if you are talking about the suffix-M, you are still wrong as suffix-M is faster than suffix-U (which you claimed to be slower but better in multitasking).
i doubt you even know how multitasking is even handled...

then your claims about the Vostro (not having fans despite being able to just Google it out within 1min), telling people a difference of 0.8kg doesnt matter just to sell your product when he clearly do not even need the gpu in the 7447.

as you state the hate for MSI mindless forum spammers, they are least just promote their product and do note make ridiculous claims.
this isn't the first time just like how just recently saying the need for a good processor (include extreme series) to open excel or many other times others have called you out.
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post Apr 5 2015, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 03:20 PM)
As i have said, proc is not the issue but the ram and because you want light weight means small size laptops which also means reduce RAM slot. Since your i3 only using 20-30 percent usage, i can say that it is the RAM problem. Windows 8.1 (for me already uses 2.5-2.8 GB OS alone with chrome it will escalate to around 3.5 GB with a few tabs.)

If you are willing to sacrifice some tabs then upgrade to the maximum amount of RAM that the system can handle.

If you replace your HDD to SSD, OS loading time would be faster and any application that is installed in your SSD also will load faster. Example would be loading your excel data.

There will always be trade off. Just take the one that is within your budget and the one you prefer. All i can offer is my advice to you. Cheers mate, happy hunting.  biggrin.gif

EDIT : Anymore question, i would be delighted to answer and also please do some research as my information might not be right all the time.  icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT EDIT: If it is not urgent to upgrade your laptop, i suggest you save up to get the XPS 13.
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you are right on this that RAM (everything need to be loaded into the memory) and SSD (source of data) would be the best performance improvement with any decent processor thumbup.gif
this is why the newer Intel mobile processors are on efficiency over speed.

one last thing is that 4gb ram is more than enough but make sure your OS is a 32-bit OS.
in fact, no average joe would ever need a 64-bit OS and if you do ever get 64-bit OS then at least 6gb ram would be recommended.
anything 4 or less, stick to 4gb ram as 64-bit OS would require more memory for the same process as when it is ran on 32-bit.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 03:20 PM)
As i have said, proc is not the issue but the ram and because you want light weight means small size laptops which also means reduce RAM slot. Since your i3 only using 20-30 percent usage, i can say that it is the RAM problem. Windows 8.1 (for me already uses 2.5-2.8 GB OS alone with chrome it will escalate to around 3.5 GB with a few tabs.)

If you are willing to sacrifice some tabs then upgrade to the maximum amount of RAM that the system can handle.

If you replace your HDD to SSD, OS loading time would be faster and any application that is installed in your SSD also will load faster. Example would be loading your excel data.

There will always be trade off. Just take the one that is within your budget and the one you prefer. All i can offer is my advice to you. Cheers mate, happy hunting.  biggrin.gif

EDIT : Anymore question, i would be delighted to answer and also please do some research as my information might not be right all the time.  icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT EDIT: If it is not urgent to upgrade your laptop, i suggest you save up to get the XPS 13.
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you are right on this that RAM (everything need to be loaded into the memory) and SSD (source of data) would be the best performance improvement with any decent processor thumbup.gif
this is why the newer Intel mobile processors are on efficiency over speed.

one last thing is that 4gb ram is more than enough but make sure your OS is a 32-bit OS.
in fact, no average joe would ever need a 64-bit OS and if you do ever get 64-bit OS then at least 6gb ram would be recommended.
anything 4 or less, stick to 4gb ram as 64-bit OS would require more memory for the same process as when it is ran on 32-bit.
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post Apr 5 2015, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 03:40 PM)
I see. I totally forgot about the 32 bit and 64 bit thingy. LOL, thanks for bringing it up. Will be doing some reading on the 32 bit and 64 bit. But isn't 64 bit better than 32 bits in term of performance (RAM performance, 64 bit, able to access more RAM).
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not really as there are still a large amount of programs that do not utilize all 64 bits, but since everything would need to be 64 then there would be wastage as everything would require 64 bit in the memory
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post Apr 5 2015, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 5 2015, 04:11 PM)
Yea, just read up one of the article stating that due to hardware not all 64 bit can be utilize. But overall most of the article do state that performance do improve generally (I suppose placebo effect?).
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it is more to software than hardward nowadays (hardwares should be able to handle it).
still when you are lacking memory (<4gb) then you do not really have the luxury.
it is always a trade-off between memory and time (performance).
thus, if you require a lot of memory then a 32 bit would be more efficient for now unless you have programs that require 64 bits (example Cities:Skyline)
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post Apr 5 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:27 PM)
looks like the epic battle will be either UX305 and XPS13 then smile.gif

since you have said that Pentium M will be no problem, I will be inclined to getting the UX305 MY501 with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD

but you know, spending RM4100 for a laptop just for reading, writing and surfing does feel funny to me

it's a huge amount  sweat.gif tbh XPS13 was my first choice but after looking at the price  sweat.gif
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Try looking at the reviews of both.
Both have amazing battery life ~8-15hrs.
As for the price, well everything is pricey nowadays and productivity-on-the-go wise, no phone/ tablets can match an ultrabook
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post Apr 5 2015, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:37 PM)
anyways do you reccomend getting a touch screen laptop?

in my opinion I won't use it much  nod.gif  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 5 2015, 04:49 PM)
Everything comes with a price. If you want performance, it will be thicker and heavier. They are able to price ultrabook at that price range is because of how the architecture differ with other laptops. No manufacturer will invest and research into making a thinner laptop and release it with cheap price. You can say it is "one-of-a-kind" in the market.

For touch screen, if you didn't use it much, then I think there is no use in purchasing it. Even if there is touch screen, I find it useless if the screen is un-detachable.

A piece of advice, if you are going to get ultrabook, make sure the spec you purchase can last you quite long. At least for basic stuff. Most important make sure RAM and Storage is sufficient for you. Most ultrabook is using soldered component including RAM. So almost no upgrade option.

P/S: I think if you're a matte display fan, touch screen is not your cup of tea. If I'm not mistaken, touch screen is using glossy reflective screen.
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i think Miong pretty much answer it all =)
unless it have multi mode like the yoga-style, i dont see much need for it >.<
this is my personal opinion and i knw a lot of ppl who love their touchscreen laptops.

PS: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/la...-1264384/review

personally, i would go for the XPS as it is the superior product imho.
ultrabooks generally last a long time after all.
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post Apr 7 2015, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 7 2015, 02:31 PM)
If you want an ultrabook, you can't expect a powerful yet latest processor smile.gif
New mb is using intel-M processor. The fan-less one. It is good for normal usage, but if you stress it then it will be a different story.
You can consider Dell XPS 13, MB or Yoga 2

P/S: I assume your casual gaming is not playing those high demanding game like Watch Dogs or COD.
P/SS: Most ultrabook is using onboard RAM, CPU and even HDD/SSD. So upgrade-wise may be a little bit more limited.
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the new HP Spectre x360 would be one of the best choice atm as well.
i would actually get it over the XPS-13 now
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QUOTE(mia_luvlifes @ Apr 7 2015, 03:03 PM)
I dont mean the beastly great processors. But just powerful enough. Let's say powerful for an ultrabook.
yes, that casual gaming.
and, i wont worry for an upgrade or any sorts. I'm not that sort of tech person to upgrade sorts.  tongue.gif
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would direct you to this.
for your budget and requirements, ultimately it would come down to these 2.
HP worked with Microsoft closely for the whole laptop (except the trackpad) whereas Dell worked with Microsoft for the trackpad.
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post Apr 7 2015, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Apr 7 2015, 03:17 PM)
Or wait for Surface 3. Even though the spec is lower, it should do fine if you're just doing stuff like browsing and some words processing.
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well he did said 13" and these 2 fits it perfectly.
with media edit, i would never recommend a M-series intel proc.
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post Apr 7 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(mia_luvlifes @ Apr 7 2015, 04:13 PM)
torn between XPS 15 and Zenbook UX305.
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wouldnt advise the UX305 for your task mainly due to the slow fanless Intel M-series proc used without any significant battery gain over the I-series.
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/notebooks/...nbook-UX305.htm

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the XPS13 would be better over the XPS15 in terms of mobility (size, bezeless screen, battery) but lose out in terms of performance (faster proc but more power drain, dedicated GPU, higher ram and ssd).
do note the XPS15 is much older as well (4th gen processor vs current 5th gen)

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PS: Try looking at notebookcheck for reviews. I generally follow theirs together with Anandtech (if they do review)

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post Apr 9 2015, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 9 2015, 03:24 PM)
Izit.. never been an issue.. but its look like fragile though.. i use my colleague one.. seems good though... laugh.gif
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main issue with it is the horrible screen flex (which shouldn't happen on any product) and keyboard flex (which is acceptable compared to a screen flex).
basically for the price you are paying, having such flex is horrible.
just look at the review below, it would say a lot about the "quality" sadly.



QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 9 2015, 03:46 PM)
To me dell quality always better than common brand but some idiot out there fire me Kao Kao when I said 7548 good quality
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i'm sorry to be an idiot who post fact with proof in the older thread on something when you claim "good quality" on products that you are selling (video above) \s

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post Apr 9 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 9 2015, 04:21 PM)
thanks for enlighten me...  notworthy.gif quite surprise.. i tot the bezel.. and i keep hold and look around the bezel  laugh.gif dell sure fail abrasive testing....  i do notice the bezel looks fragile..  hmm.gif
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reason why there are loads of online reviews for most products.
nowadays, it's pretty hard for ppl to make bad purchase unless they are lazy to do their own research and just listen to agents/ promoters etc.
some would only consider the spec whereas some would consider the build quality as well (if you are looking for it to last).
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post Apr 16 2015, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Apr 16 2015, 09:18 PM)
How come price so big difference one..

Dell XPS15-2081SG-W8 15.6"
i5-4200H,
1TB,
32GB SSD,
8GB,
W8.1
RM5,283

DELL NEW XPS 15 LAPTOP
4th Gen Intel Core i7-4712HQ Processor(6M,up to
3.3GHz)
Genuine Windows 8.1 Home 64bit
1TB 5400 rpm SATA Hard Drive+32GB mSATA Solid
State Drive
16GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600MHz(8GBx2)
No Optical Drive
Integrated Dell 2.0 Speakers with Waves
MaxxAudio 5
NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2GB GDDR5
Truelife and QHD+resolution(3200x1800) with
Integrated Widescreen HD Webcam
61 WHr,6-Cell Battery(integrated)
Rm4850

Maybe the website not updated. hmm.gif
But anyway, optical drive is important for me, use it quiet frequently too.

But still thinking of Illegear Q5
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would even not consider this.
gt 750m is too far behind from the gtx 960m offered in the MSI and Illegear.
it would be silly to spend that much for such an inferior spec as the XPS15 is at one of the most awkward spot (not as mobile as XPS13 and not as powerful as other performance laptops despite its weight/size)

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QUOTE(ahhan86 @ Apr 16 2015, 04:14 PM)
Mainly office/browsing use, video/movies.
Not into gaming smile.gif

Need a better battery life one, and maybe better service?
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i would get neither.
if you want battery life i would suggest consulting this list
http://blog.laptopmag.com/all-day-strong-l...sting-notebooks

note: the HP Spectre x360 from the current tests have better battery life than the XPS as HP worked closely with Microsoft for really good optimization
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Apr 16 2015, 02:15 PM)
Xps13 wif edge screen... thin till I scare... dunno can tahan or not
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 16 2015, 02:41 PM)
sure.. why not. its aluminium exterior which similar to the MacBook Air in sheen and durability. the only matters is xps 13 doesnt have Ethernet port  sweat.gif but, nowadays, people all using wifi transmitter which will helps a lot.
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If ppl have tested it out to be solid (Linus even put it overnight under the rain despite it not being waterproof and it still works), I believe it is totally solid.
Better build than many of the machines that are currently being sold.

@myway
no need to ridicule one of the best laptops of 2015 just because you are not selling it doh.gif
especially your epic claim of Dell's 7000 series having good quality despite the horrible flex just because you sell it.

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