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post Mar 19 2014, 11:37 PM, updated 12y ago

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V22 ended really fast lol, no thanks to those who didn't follow the format @_@
Time for V23 now~

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This thread is specially made to offer laptop/tablet PC recommendations to EVERYONE
However, in order for us to recommend you with laptops/tablet PCs which suits you the most, we would require some basic information from you. Hence please kindly state your the following when posting:
1. Preferred Brand
2. Budget
3. Usage
4. Preferred laptop/screen size


Laptop models and associated prices can be found here: LYN Notebook Price Catalog V4

Please do your research properly before buying ya, there are ORIGINAL and REFURBISHED notebooks out there. So don't get conned! icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

With the help of the sifus here, we hope that you will be able to find the best laptop for your usage~
Happy Hunting!


As usual, many thanks alot to God lee_what2004 sifu for his time in giving recommendations and updating the pricelist~

Special thanks to raymondtong94, nexus2238 sifus for their relentless participation in this thread, I'm sure many are grateful for your recommendations happy.gif Keep it up guys~

**Hope nexus sifu will come back soon notworthy.gif


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post Mar 19 2014, 11:38 PM

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The sifus and I have always wanted a specific section of the thread to recommend some of the more popular notebooks at a particular time, but sadly we never got the chance to do it since the lineups gets refreshed so rapidly that even we have problems catching up. Nevertheless, I would like to share my experiences with potential buyers on what you should look out for when you purchase your next notebook.

Of course, all opinions are my own, which are based on my 4 years experience here in recommending notebooks. I understand that different people have different priorities in choosing his/her notebook, and I have to admit that my priorities changed according to the years as well, so don't be surprised if yours do as well icon_rolleyes.gif

Some points that I would like to share with potential notebook buyers:
1. You get what you pay for, at least for all the mainstream notebooks. Much like everything else in the market, if you pay peanuts, all that you're going to get are peanuts. Most Malaysians tend to ask for notebooks with the best "bang-for-buck" or best performance for the price, which is not exactly a very viable option. There are many other aspects to look for in a good notebook (Point 2).
astria sifu once said: "They must've cut corners somewhere you don't see it to achieve such a low price."
lil kiasu: "Cheap no good, good no cheap."

2. Don't just look at the main specifications of the notebook (CPU, GPU and HDD). There are many other aspects of a notebook that you should look at, for example:
- do you like the design of the notebook?
- how's the warranty support for this notebook/brand?
- is the keyboard comfortable to type on?
- are the speakers good?
- is the audio/mic ports combined or separated?
- is the cooling system good?
- is it easy to access the inner parts of the notebook (For upgrades and maintenance)?
- does the touchpad suck?
- and a whole lot more etc. etc. etc.

Of course, there are a lot more points to ponder, and each person has a different priority in the features they want. Which is why we sifus always recommend potential buyers to check out the notebook before buying. If you are a gamer, don't buy a very powerful machine with a very bad cooling system! It's not going to end well...
In short, you don't need a notebook with the most powerful CPU or GPU for your budget, you need one that you like (design and ergonomics), one that fulfils your usage.

3. Don't buy based on the brand. People tend to generalize when it comes to brands- If his/her notebook sucks, then everything from that brand sucks. This is of course, inaccurate.
One has to understand that there will always be lemon units in electronic devices. Whether a notebook lasts or not depends on a little bit of luck, but a lot on user care!
Even the most premium brands out there are not free from defects.

"Is Asus or Lenovo better?", we get this kind of questions a lot.

Each brand has different lineups of notebooks, ranging from budget to premium to workstations to business notebooks etc. Of course, don't expect budget notebooks to be extremely reliable, and don't expect business notebooks to be cheap. Each lineup of notebooks were designed specifically to suit different niche of people.
Thus, know which category of notebook you are going for, and set your expectations accordingly.

4. Buy based on warranty support. Apparently after sales service wasn't a really big thing 2-3 years back, but things have changed. People now understand how frustrating it can be to send in their faulty notebooks to the respective shops/service centres themselves, then wait for up to 2 months laptop-less for repairs. And that's not it, some might even have to put up with bad customer service or recurring faultiness. In the end they wasted a lot of time, money and effort, and sometimes the notebooks ain't even fixed doh.gif
We are fortunate that some brands in Malaysia (Dell, Lenovo, HP, Toshiba, Fujitsu) took note of the problems we customers were facing, and provided on-site warranty support (they come to your place and fix your notebook within 1-2 business days) for certain lineups of their notebooks.
So far, only Dell offers on-site warranty to all their notebooks, with the option for warranty extension. This is a package that I would highly recommend to everyone, particularly students who do not have spare notebooks.

5. Do your research before buying. If you are reading this, then good for you. It's good to read up a bit on the notebook(s) you are interested in before you make the purchase. Not every notebook is perfect, each one will have its flaws, so it'll be good to read up reviews on them as well, and decide whether the drawbacks will affect your usage and ultimately your purchase.

Words of advice: (i) Avoid buying a newly released product which doesn't have any reviews yet. You might end up getting a notebook with universal problems (as in all models suffer from the same issue) which will give you a big headache. (ii) Avoid getting limited edition notebooks that are specific to a specific region of the world (South East Asia for our case), you will have problems getting proper warranty/technical support and spare parts.

6. Always compare Apple vs. Apple, Orange vs. Orange. This will probably earn me some hate from the fanboys, but if you are going to compare an Apple against a Windows-based notebook, please compare those of equivalent price-range or niche.
Too often do the sifus hear Apple users complaining that Windows-based notebooks are rubbish because apparently their RM1000 Windows netbook suck and their current RM5000 MacBook works miraculously well laugh.gif We sifus have no qualms with you comparing notebooks of different operating systems, as long as you are fair about it, and you are not spamming the thread with bashes and hate. However, whichever operating system/brands you choose, please do remember to take note of Point 2 and Point 4.

7. Shop people don't always know everything. In fact, I've only seen a handful of really competent and knowledgeable sellers in Lowyat plaza or during PC Fairs. Most of the shop sellers are part-timers trying to make a living, unlike the passionate forumers (not me, I'm actually a noob @__@) here who follow up on all the technological advancement just because they love it.

Some classic examples (I'm sure you've heard more if you did your research laugh.gif):
"No you are wrong, Nvidia GT730M is better than Nvidia GTX770M because its has more VRAM!"
"Sorry I don't know what is IPS, I will go and ask my superiors"

Shop people will say virtually anything, as long as you buy from them at the end of the day and the commissions go into their pockets. So make sure you do your homework first before you buy anything, unless if you don't mind being ripped off la laugh.gif But worry not, for we are here for you haha~

I guess that's all for now haha, finally some contributions to this thread laugh.gif
Hopefully the information here will help potential buyers find their ideal notebooks icon_rolleyes.gif

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Rules and Regulations

Please kindly read the 1st post, and FOLLOW THE FORMAT before posting!

** Fanboyism is not allowed

** This is a recommendations thread, meaning its only for recommendations nod.gif If you need detailed comparisons between two or more notebooks, please open a new thread under Mobile Computing

** The sifus here are recommending based on what they think is best for your requirements and budget. In the end its up to you to decide which one you will buy

*** The sifus here are offering recommendations voluntarily (not paid) as we believe that by doing so, we could reduce the number of con cases; so please do show the sifus some respect icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 19 2014, 11:44 PM

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1. Preferred Brand: any brand
2. Budget: 2.5k
3. Usage: bring to class, office, web browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: around 14"
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post Mar 19 2014, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Mar 19 2014, 11:44 PM)
1. Preferred Brand: any brand
2. Budget: 2.5k
3. Usage: bring to class, office, web browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: around 14"
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Many choices here since you are not using it for gaming laugh.gif
14"
Acer
V5-473PG-54204G50, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M +(1366x768;touch)@RM2299, 4GB, 500GB,W8 *no OD


Asus
A450CC, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT720M@RM1999[2kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8; 4-cell; colors: black/red/white
K451LB-WX071H, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2299, 4GB, 750GB, W8

PRO45VJ-V0047X, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT635M@RM2399[2.4kg], 4GB, 500GB, W7P
PRO45VJ-V0056X, i3-3120M +Intel HD4000@RM1999[2.4kg], 4GB, 500GB, W7P


Dell
Inspiron 14, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M@RM1699 [1.99kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Linux, 6 cell; W8.1SL@RM1899
Inspiron 14R, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400 @RM1599 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8.1 , 4 cell

HP
Pavilion 14-N075TX, i3-3217U + AMD HD8670M@RM1649[2.03kg], 4GB, 500GB, W8
Pavilion 14-N059TX, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2099[2.03kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8; colors: silver/black

Lenovo
Ideapad Flex 14, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M +(1366x768; touch) + 8GB SSHD + 500GB HDD@RM2299, 4GB, W8, 2 yrs; colors: black/orange
S410p, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M +(1366x768; touch)@RM2199[2.1kg], 4GB, 500GB, W8, 2 yrs
S410p, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M +(1366x768; touch)@RM2399[2.1kg], 4GB, 500GB, W8, 2 yrs

Sony
Vaio SVF14318SG, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M + (1366x768;touch)@RM2399, 4GB, 500GB, W8SL; colors: white

Toshiba
Satellite L40-AS109Xb/G/W, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2199[Onkyo], 4GB, 750GB, 3 years local warranty; colors: Blue/gold/white
Satelite L40-AS125XG/B/W, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2299[Onkyo], 2GB, 750GB, 3 years local warranty, W8; colors: Gold/blue/white

* Prices in RRP ya notworthy.gif
* Use remaining budget to extend warranty to 3 years (if applicable). Can consider upgrading to 8GB RAM too if you want- will help in multitasking
* Just choose the one that you like the most. But in terms of stock performance, the Lenovo Flex 14 will be relatively faster because of the SSHD
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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Mar 19 2014, 11:44 PM)
1. Preferred Brand: any brand
2. Budget: 2.5k
3. Usage: bring to class, office, web browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: around 14"
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i think i do remember you, girl. anyway :

Dell
Inspiron 14, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M@RM1699 [1.99kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Linux, 6 cell; W8.1SL@RM1899

save back your budget, since your usage are more related to normal ones. if you want more lighter and thinner, can go for this :

Dell
Vostro 5470, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400@RM1899, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8, 3-cell

prices are RRP and negotiable. use the remaining budget to upgrade RAM and extend warranty to 3 years. icon_rolleyes.gif
and exchange HDD to SSD if you want blazing fast performance.
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Mar 19 2014, 11:50 PM)
Many choices here since you are not using it for gaming laugh.gif
14"
Acer
V5-473PG-54204G50, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M +(1366x768;touch)@RM2299, 4GB, 500GB,W8 *no OD
Asus
A450CC, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT720M@RM1999[2kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8; 4-cell; colors: black/red/white
K451LB-WX071H, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2299, 4GB, 750GB, W8

PRO45VJ-V0047X, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT635M@RM2399[2.4kg], 4GB, 500GB, W7P
PRO45VJ-V0056X, i3-3120M +Intel HD4000@RM1999[2.4kg], 4GB, 500GB, W7P
Dell
Inspiron 14, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M@RM1699 [1.99kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Linux, 6 cell; W8.1SL@RM1899
Inspiron 14R, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400 @RM1599 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8.1 , 4 cell

HP
Pavilion 14-N075TX, i3-3217U + AMD HD8670M@RM1649[2.03kg], 4GB, 500GB, W8
Pavilion 14-N059TX, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2099[2.03kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8; colors: silver/black

Lenovo
Ideapad Flex 14, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M +(1366x768; touch) + 8GB SSHD + 500GB HDD@RM2299, 4GB, W8, 2 yrs; colors: black/orange
S410p, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M +(1366x768; touch)@RM2199[2.1kg], 4GB, 500GB, W8, 2 yrs
S410p, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M +(1366x768; touch)@RM2399[2.1kg], 4GB, 500GB, W8, 2 yrs

Sony
Vaio SVF14318SG, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M + (1366x768;touch)@RM2399, 4GB, 500GB, W8SL; colors: white

Toshiba
Satellite L40-AS109Xb/G/W, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2199[Onkyo], 4GB, 750GB, 3 years local warranty; colors: Blue/gold/white
Satelite L40-AS125XG/B/W, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2299[Onkyo], 2GB, 750GB, 3 years local warranty, W8; colors: Gold/blue/white

* Prices in RRP ya notworthy.gif
* Use remaining budget to extend warranty to 3 years (if applicable). Can consider upgrading to 8GB RAM too if you want- will help in multitasking
* Just choose the one that you like the most. But in terms of stock performance, the Lenovo Flex 14 will be relatively faster because of the SSHD
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Mar 19 2014, 11:51 PM)
i think i do remember you, girl. anyway :

Dell
Inspiron 14, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT720M@RM1699 [1.99kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Linux, 6 cell; W8.1SL@RM1899

save back your budget, since your usage are more related to normal ones. if you want more lighter and thinner, can go for this :

Dell
Vostro 5470, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400@RM1899, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8, 3-cell

prices are RRP and negotiable. use the remaining budget to upgrade RAM and extend warranty to 3 years. icon_rolleyes.gif
and exchange HDD to SSD if you want blazing fast performance.
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how about something with a better battery life? maybe a low end ultrabook?
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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Mar 19 2014, 11:58 PM)
how about something with a better battery life? maybe a low end ultrabook?
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take a look at the Vostro 5470 that i recommended.
my brother claimed that it can survive 4-5 hours on a single charge, with its 3 Cell 50WHr battery.
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Thanks guys
I have gone through the list of suggestion, the 8 hours battery life on flex 14 is tempting.
thinking of getting this and swap hdd with a 128gb ssd rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:00 AM)
take a look at the Vostro 5470 that i recommended.
my brother claimed that it can survive 4-5 hours on a single charge, with its 3 Cell 50WHr battery.
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Just want to add that the Vostro series still suffers from weak WiFi I think sad.gif
Sad, but its true.. sad.gif

QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:24 AM)
Thanks guys
I have gone through the list of suggestion, the 8 hours battery life on flex 14 is tempting.
thinking of getting this and swap hdd with a 128gb ssd  rclxm9.gif
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I don't think the Flex 14 can last 8 hours haha laugh.gif
4-5 hours maybe with its 4-cell battery (iirc)
But its still a great ultrabook.
Well, no point getting the Flex 14 if you intend to throw in an 128GB SSD in the 1st place! haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Mar 20 2014, 12:26 AM)
Just want to add that the Vostro series still suffers from weak WiFi I think sad.gif
Sad, but its true..  sad.gif
I don't think the Flex 14 can last 8 hours haha laugh.gif
4-5 hours maybe with its 4-cell battery (iirc)
But its still a great ultrabook.
Well, no point getting the Flex 14 if you intend to throw in an 128GB SSD in the 1st place! haha  laugh.gif
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if not flex 14, what would you go for if you were me?
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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:40 AM)
if not flex 14, what would you go for if you were me?
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Vostro 5470 if you want light weight. if you worry about weak wifi, get an external wifi receiver which is priced at around RM30 for good ones.

TJ according to notebookcheck, the Flex 14 can survive 5 1/2 hours on a single charge, with WiFi surfing.
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1. Preferred Brand: any brand besides acer
2. Budget: 1.7k
3. Usage: bring to class, office, web browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: around 14" or 15"
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hey, thanks for u time! im looking for a tablet/convertable pc.

1. Preferred Brand: Any brand EXCEPT ASUS (very poor quality control and poor software updates. Partly due to the fact they release new products too frequently, thus abandoning/ couldn't care less about yesterday's products.)

2. Budget: 2-3k

3. Usage: Office usage, light photo editing, light gaming.

4. Other requirements:
- windows 8 or 8.1 (NOT RT).
- has USB attached to the tablet, not the keyboard/dock.
- keyboard removable.
- optional: 3G/LTE support. More than 1 USB. Well position speaker.

thx in advance

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hi sifus,

1. Preferred Brand: any brand xcept acer n brothers.
2. Budget: 2.5k max
3. Usage:uni student, gaming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: at least 15", back light keybrd, large hdd, gpu gtx if possible.

p/s: what ur opinion about asus rog g56jr? for 4k+-, is it worth to buy. if not, can u recommend other model from any brand? thanks. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mr Raff @ Mar 20 2014, 03:27 AM)
hi sifus,

1. Preferred Brand: any brand xcept acer n brothers.
2. Budget: 2.5k max
3. Usage:uni student, gaming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: at least 15", back light keybrd, large hdd, gpu gtx if possible.

p/s: what ur opinion about asus rog g56jr? for 4k+-, is it worth to buy. if not, can u recommend other model from any brand? thanks.  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
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Thought Ur budget 2.5k? The G56JR out of budget for u
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Mar 20 2014, 01:00 AM)
Vostro 5470 if you want light weight. if you worry about weak wifi, get an external wifi receiver which is priced at around RM30 for good ones.

TJ according to notebookcheck, the Flex 14 can survive 5 1/2 hours on a single charge, with WiFi surfing.
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Thanks for the heads-up man notworthy.gif
I've actually recommended my friend a Flex 14 and managed to play around with it, its pretty good; though the lid (although aluminium-like) tends to attract stains and the keyboard flexes (which is very normal for notebooks of this price range). Touchpad is okay, unlike many other counterparts hmm.gif

And with its SSHD, it is noticeably faster than those running on normal HDD
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QUOTE(AngelTee84 @ Mar 20 2014, 01:18 AM)
1. Preferred Brand: any brand besides acer
2. Budget: 1.7k
3. Usage: bring to class, office, web browsing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: around 14" or 15"
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Try nego for this one:
14"
Lenovo
Ideapad Flex 14, i3-4010U + Nvidia GT720M +(1366x768; touch) + 8GB SSHD + 500GB HDD@RM1799, 4GB, W8, 2 yrs; color: black

*Price in RRP
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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Mar 20 2014, 01:34 AM)
hey, thanks for u time! im looking for a tablet/convertable pc.

1. Preferred Brand: Any brand EXCEPT ASUS (very poor quality control and poor software updates. Partly due to the fact they release new products too frequently, thus abandoning/ couldn't care less about yesterday's products.)

2. Budget: 2-3k

3. Usage: Office usage, light photo editing, light gaming.

4. Other requirements:
- windows 8 or 8.1 (NOT RT).
- has USB attached to the tablet, not the keyboard/dock.
- keyboard removable.
- optional: 3G/LTE support. More than 1 USB. Well position speaker.

thx in advance
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Might have to compromise on gaming nod.gif Hybrids are not really meant for gaming sad.gif
How about this one?

11.6"
Sony Vaio SVT11213CG, Pentium 3560Y + Intel HD + + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080;touch)@RM2999, 2GB, W8SL; colors: white; stylus, KB included

13"
HP
Split 13-m111TU x2, i5-4200Y + Intel HD4200 + 64GB mSATA SSD + 500GB (5400 rpm) + (1366x768, anti-glare, touch)@RM3099[1.07+1.15kg], 4GB, W8.1, 33+32 WHr (there are 2 batteries, 1 in tablet, 1 in keyboard base)
Split 13-M005TU x2 PC, i5-3339Y + Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD + (1366x768;touch)@RM2899[2.22kg], 4GB, W8

* Price in RRP
* Please double check on whether the USB is attached laugh.gif Not too sure about the specifics

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