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TSajak25
post Jul 24 2006, 06:02 PM, updated 20y ago

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I was enjoying playing Chromehounds yesterday.....without any problems or lag...was about to start a mission with Jaylike,Firdaus n Terrorisk....then suddenly d game froze...nothing moved on my TV screen....then i rebooted...n all ok..tried to reconnect to Sega server....then it froze again....at first I thought that it might be a server problem vmad.gif ...then I switched off d console n went to sleep...

This morning...i woke up n switched d console on....everything was working fine until i was about to start playing chromehounds...then d system froze again...n once again I rebooted the console feeling sooooo frustrated...n then the most scariest thing that can happen to any xbox360 owner seems to be knocking my door on this 1 unlucky day shocking.gif ....ITS D

3 BLINKING RED LIGHTS OF DEATH...... shocking.gif shocking.gif sweat.gif

NO VIDEO OUTPUT....NO ROARING SOUNDS OF THE CPU.... rclxub.gif

Then dunno what was d error about...i ran to my pc n quickly went to xbox-scene.com forum n read everything about error codes......then ran back to d console n did a diagnostic test (using a method to find hidden code coz no video came out frm my xbox) n turned out to be the horrifying 0102 error code cry.gif .....

although they said in d forum that using Hot Air Gun can fix d problem...but will it last ?I dont think its because of overheating coz i have Nyko intercooler attached n it shud be cooler....but they might circulating hot air coz in small game room there is no air cond..just a fan...i dunno.... shakehead.gif

I tried rebooting my console for 50 times straight n still no results....have tried everything suggested in d xbox-scene forum but nothing worked....havent tried d hot air gun method yet.....coz i need to open everything...n not sure whether d warranty still valid or not coz bought it frm primer last month.....if d warranty has expired or not valid...then i will try d hot air gun thingy....or if im too lazy..i might be getting a new one instead....shud i repair it or just get a new one(no money waaa)??

If i get a new one then I will use d old one as a watercooling n case modding project(if i can somehow fix them using hot air guns) or i'll just disassemble everything n sell d parts......i might just do that.....arghh im soooo frustrated n cannot think straight now..... doh.gif

might be selling some of my games..parts n controller to support my new 360 so i will let u guys know when d times come....

Today is just another series of unfortunate events in my life....a BIG SIGH

Guys...be xtra careful n take a very good care of ur console...


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post Jul 24 2006, 06:25 PM

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bro ajak sorry to hear that what happened. actually few days ago i was playing game in my 360 then i accidently kicked the stepdown transformer and immediately my 360 frozen with the blinking red lights. maybe you can try check on the connection on your stepdown transformer (if you are using a japanese set)

well sorry cant offer any help to you but just give it a try.
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post Jul 24 2006, 06:55 PM

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so sorry to hear that ajak. heard some rumour that CH game can cause overheating to the console, dunno how true is it. sweat.gif your console is JP or SG set?

MK84 console also died, which is JP set. Firdaus and cruxader console also have died ang got replaced, tonite if got chance wanna ask them theirs is JP or SG set.
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post Jul 24 2006, 07:09 PM

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+ dynamo, evilswat....so many case around!...do u guys think the faulty rate rather too high!!!
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post Jul 24 2006, 07:21 PM

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those ppl with these cases, got install the nyko IC or not? blink.gif
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post Jul 24 2006, 07:28 PM

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me light oso blinkin sumtime..
the controller light blinking n pusing2...
but no red wan..
i think its the controller battery... rite?
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post Jul 24 2006, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(UltramanToron @ Jul 24 2006, 07:28 PM)
me light oso blinkin sumtime..
the controller light blinking n pusing2...
but no red wan..
i think its the controller battery... rite?
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yup thats battery low, the bliking red thingy they talking about is on the console.
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post Jul 24 2006, 07:50 PM

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my blinking 1,3,4 red lights records 58 times rclxms.gif very happy now cause my 360 gonna explore tongue.gif no more 360 whoopee!! rclxm9.gif rclxub.gif

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post Jul 24 2006, 07:55 PM

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there is no doubt that most xbox360 has come out of this issue.
to prevent it happen, mostly cause by the overheating because of bad cooling system of it.
i would suggest u guys to mod your cooling fan(sure no more warranty).
mine work pretty good now after the modding.

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post Jul 24 2006, 09:20 PM

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Gosh.... once i saw this thread my heart suddenly stop for few seconds... let's pray that everything will be fine... blush.gif
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post Jul 24 2006, 09:31 PM

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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif sghicgihagihgiugcs..... i need an aircond asap
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post Jul 24 2006, 09:51 PM

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Error code ER68 victim here, i have the honor of being the first Malaysian owner with 3 blinking red lights when i received my US 360. (hint: US 360, hence im screwed in terms of having to return defective unit back to the States). Narrowed it down to the HDD being faulty , and ripped that thing apart to see whats wrong. Ended buying a new HDD from US as well. No problems till now.
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QUOTE(sentlon @ Jul 24 2006, 07:55 PM)
there is no doubt that most xbox360 has come out of this issue.
to prevent it happen, mostly cause by the overheating because of bad cooling system of it.
i would suggest u guys to mod your cooling fan(sure no more warranty).
mine work pretty good now after the modding.
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how and what you mod?
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post Jul 24 2006, 10:29 PM

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I have no air cond, and my 360 runs for days at a time to download and play.. yet I haven't (knock on wood) over heated before yet. hmmm...
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post Jul 24 2006, 11:11 PM

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asian and jap first batch...careful with it... flex.gif
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post Jul 25 2006, 12:26 AM

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modding yo show some picture babeh
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post Jul 25 2006, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Jul 25 2006, 12:26 AM)
modding yo show some picture babeh
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i second that. some picture would be really nice. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 25 2006, 01:03 AM

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what i did are thermal upgrade and Fan modding.
u guys can get all the tutorial over here.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=471958

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QUOTE(wcliang @ Jul 24 2006, 07:09 PM)
+ dynamo, evilswat....so many case around!...do u guys think the faulty rate rather too high!!!
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I don't think so. Less than half a dozen cases out of about a hundred console (in this forum) is pretty reasonable for any product. The unfortunate thing for us is that there's no official support for the console here so we're screwed if anything happens to it sweat.gif

Don't worry ajak, worse comes to worse, you'll get to play your PAL console again when you go back to the UK biggrin.gif

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post Jul 25 2006, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(sentlon @ Jul 25 2006, 01:03 AM)
what i did are thermal upgrade and Fan modding.
u guys can get all the tutorial over here.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=471958
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Nice info u got over there..thanks..i will do it if my 360 give me some sort of problem.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 25 2006, 02:23 AM

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is ur 360 standing vertical or horizontal.? flex.gif ...


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post Jul 25 2006, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(windows_sux @ Jul 25 2006, 02:23 AM)
is ur 360 standing vertical or horizontal.? flex.gif ...
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QUOTE(arj @ Jul 25 2006, 01:32 AM)
I don't think so. Less than half a dozen cases out of about a hundred console (in this forum) is pretty reasonable for any product. The unfortunate thing for us is that there's no official support for the console here so we're screwed if anything happens to it sweat.gif


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but to me , not acceptable. no idea abt other users, all victims mentioned above my friend.....,,,toobad....and i have to admit, 360 = unreliable
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It is unacceptable. The naysayers at first said that this is normal for early adopters, but since Ajak is one of the ones who bought their 360 later, so it must be something to do with the console design and manufacturing itself. You'd expect MS QC had picked up the hint and starts fixing things, but it does not seem so.
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so that means this deadly red lights not covered by warranty?
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post Jul 25 2006, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 25 2006, 10:07 AM)
It is unacceptable. The naysayers at first said that this is normal for early adopters, but since Ajak is one of the ones who bought their 360 later, so it must be something to do with the console design and manufacturing itself. You'd expect MS QC had picked up the hint and starts fixing things, but it does not seem so.
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same goes with first xbox..so many problem..i have to wait like almost 2 years before i buy xbox after everything is cool down...till now is okay...anyway with my 360 i also "takut" coz i suppose to wait like next year when new batch is arrive..until they fix some bugs.. whistling.gif ....anyway good luck..
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is it just me or is this the 3rd box with an intercooler on it to go all red blinky? could the intercooler be loose or something?
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post Jul 25 2006, 01:19 PM

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Those red lights are merely error indicators, they are all covered by warranty. The question is, where to warrant our warranty? Singapore? Normal folks dont have the access or luxury of travelling down south every single time their 360 is acting up.
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Jul 24 2006, 10:29 PM)
I have no air cond, and my 360 runs for days at a time to download and play.. yet I haven't (knock on wood) over heated before yet. hmmm...
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Same here except I have Air Con and a ceiling fan. On average my box is on for about 7 hours a day (maybe even more I think). For the past few days I've been playing Prey and Oblivion non-stop for about 10 - 12 hours and the only thing that has happened is the box froze twice (once because I duped too many items at once in Oblivion laugh.gif)

I suspended my power brick on a shoe box just in case, but even after about 7 hours of play it doesn't feel very hot. Warm but not hot. Same with the back of the 360. Warm but not hot. But now that I read about all these overheating stories I think a 20 minute break every few hours would be good

When did I buy my 360? I ordered it from boss Djinn in Bulk v2 which was sometime around April 23rd the deadline. Then he kept it and left it to rot at his house until May 25th laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yoroi @ Jul 25 2006, 01:12 PM)
is it just me or is this the 3rd box with an intercooler on it to go all red blinky?  could the intercooler be loose or something?
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too hard to pin point IMO. there's some people here with the intercooler but no problem what so ever. i thought it's because JP sets, but all the SG gamers i know that have their console died using SG sets.
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i know it can be tonnes of factors... i'm just saying maybe something is loose...like in my case...my power cable was loose and it gave me all sorts of problems... once i plugged it back in properly...all the problems were gone... i read in some forums that they have problems bcos the intercooler wasnt plugged in properly.... so just thought i'd share
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so i guess.. 'll have to wait for newer revisions which uses better cooling system or maybe uses smaller manufacturing process for its GPU/CPU..

(i heard that they going to shrink it to 65nm from current 90nm... )
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Jul 26 2006, 12:27 AM)
so i guess.. 'll have to wait for newer revisions which uses better cooling system or maybe uses smaller manufacturing process for its GPU/CPU..

(i heard that they going to shrink it to 65nm from current 90nm... )
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Jul 26 2006, 12:27 AM)
so i guess.. 'll have to wait for newer revisions which uses better cooling system or maybe uses smaller manufacturing process for its GPU/CPU..

(i heard that they going to shrink it to 65nm from current 90nm... )
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Xbox 360 with the new 65nm CPU will only be out in 2007. If you can wait, then wait loh. I know I can't. tongue.gif
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u guys better wait till next year...xbox360 bundle with HALO3..hehehe plus special edition HALO3 xbox360 green color transparent flex.gif okay i just made it up..hahahah laugh.gif
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Hi, I'd like to put my name into the "My X360 is Malfunctioning Club"

Sigh. I'm so pissed off right now.
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jul 29 2006, 05:19 PM)
Hi, I'd like to put my name into the "My X360 is Malfunctioning Club"

Sigh. I'm so pissed off right now.
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Huh. Why? Your 360 KO-ed? blink.gif
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It freezes whilst playing, with vertical lines on the screen. Then when I restart my 360 again, I see the 3 red blinking lights of doom.....

The console can occasionally startup properly, but whether it can play games or not is another thing. Depends on my luck or something. This thing first appeared whilst playing EM only, but now it seems to freeze on any game...
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jul 29 2006, 05:27 PM)
It freezes whilst playing, with vertical lines on the screen. Then when I restart my 360 again, I see the 3 red blinking lights of doom.....

The console can occasionally startup properly, but whether it can play games or not is another thing. Depends on my luck or something. This thing first appeared whilst playing EM only, but now it seems to freeze on any game...
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got freezes problem when i played chromehounds, so very scare to try it again. EM 5 hours straight, no problem pulak rclxub.gif

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sorry to hear that.... sweat.gif
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I have a sneaky feeling that it has something to do with my disk drive. My 360 can play Arcade games no problem, but it freezes when it plays normal disc games. Live is ok.

Sigh...so now I'm stuck with a console that can only play 80s games... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jul 29 2006, 08:02 PM)
I have a sneaky feeling that it has something to do with my disk drive. My 360 can play Arcade games no problem, but it freezes when it plays normal disc games. Live is ok. 
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Another possible reason could be overheat. I don't think Arcade game require much proccessing power as retail Xbox 360 games, and in theory, Xbox 360 will be much cooler when running Arcade games.

Just my 2 cents. smile.gif
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hey guys...sorry for not replying...went to paradise breakaway for 10 days to perhentian island...merajuk coz my xbox360 buat hal....then straight went to cuti-cuti malaysia....just got back...very tanned...i mean sunburnt....n now a task to repair my 360...saw a new post by metalgrindsolid tanggaling d baju of d 360 n mod d cooling system....will try that as well....anyway sorry to bro darkchaser.....
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I've got my Red Lights story now: I'm in Jakarta right now and today the power went out. So we had to use a diesel generator thing to generate power. With the generator, voltages aren't stable, so it would be bad for my 360. So I looked around the house and found a voltage stabiliser. So I grabbed it, and plugged my TV and 360 into it. Grabbed the controller and powered up the 360 and continued to play Kameo.

After 15 minutes of getting my arse kicked in the Snow Temple level, I heard a snapping sound coming from the stabiliser. I looked, nothing seemed wrong. Then the screen went black. Looked at my 360 and I saw the 3 Red Quadrants of Doom! I quickly dashed and hit the power button and unplugged everything. The 360 wasn't really hot, nor was the power brick. Weird. Overheating in 15 minutes?

After 5 minutes, I plugged everything back in turned on my 360 again to see if everything is OK. Fortunately it booted with no problems. Then I quickly unplugged everything again.

It seems highly unlikely that my 360 would just overheat in 15 minutes. I'm sure it has something to do with the voltages and voltage stabiliser. After Google-ing, it seems just like a minor hardware error. Most likely something to do with the voltages. Hopefully it's not fried
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The 3 red lights doesn't indicate an overheating problem, but a hardware problem. I know that mine isn't really an overheating problem, coz my 360 freezes just minutes after powering up, and then the 3 red lights of doom... sad.gif

I don't know, maybe I should try contacting MS S'pore see if I can send it over there...

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Well the power went back on and everything is fine now. The voltage instability was definitely the cause of the problem. So watch your voltages everyone
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I've got myself a new premium 360 unit from connie today......but will still use the old accessories so the new ones r surplus to requirements...so those items are for sale..brand new unpacked!!!

[WTS]
1.Brand New 20 Gb Hard Disk-Rm331.90 frm Playasia - minus shipping
2.Brand New Wireless Controller-Rm165.77 frm PA
3.Brand New HD AV Component Cable
4.Brand New Official Live Headset
5.Brand New Power Adapter (the huge thing providing power to ur unit) - cost close to Rm300 on ebay.uk..if no one wants it..will sell on ebay
6.Chromehounds faceplate for sale as well....u can find this in pasar malam thread!!
7.My old Xbox 360 Console - repairable,can be used for any project

All accesories came from Asian Console...

PlayAsia prices just for comparison n info..

Will accept offer lower than PA price....dun want to cekik darah punyer..just want to recover some money....so offer me ur best price!!

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if anyone interested to buy my broken 360 let me know...it can be fixed but i just dont have d time and equipments to do it....just use the Hot air gun method coz i think the solders used on d chips might have been worn out or loose...so by using hot air gun it will realligned d solder n fix the problem...coz i reckoned thats d main problem for my 360..not bcoz of overheating....coz both of d fans r working fine...my hard disk still ok...all d old accessories can be used with my new console without problem..

then for those who like to mod can use this to try out the water cooling project or anything u like flex.gif ....

the new unit bought from connie today is quieter than d previous batch...so MS must have done some improvements on d newer console...not sure but without doubt i will take an extra care for this one...no more playing >5 hours...max 4 hours......n will play in air-cond room only sweat.gif ....

again for more info how to fix using hot air gun...go to xbox-scene.com...with some very helpful videos...

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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 3 2006, 11:37 PM)
[WTS]
5.Brand New Power Adapter (the huge thing providing power to ur unit) - cost close to Rm300 on ebay.uk..if no one wants it..will sell on ebay
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A great opportunity for Japanese/US console owners to get rid of the huge stepdown transformer! thumbup.gif
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^ Dont know if ajak's fault is caused by a faulty power adaptor or the x360 it self.
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everytime i see this kind of topic i will be very afraid. very2 afraid. this xbox 360 cause me to ikat perot for 3 month. Sudah Ikat perot baru boleh pergi beli. Now, I am so damn worried to face this thing. Haiyoooooo (sentuh kayu my mother say to ward these bad lucks).
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yeah, when I bought my machine (RM2K or so that time) I had to scrape for every sen that I can find to buy it. Now that my machine is dead, trying to find another RM1.5K or so for a new console is another huge task, especially with other things in life that takes priority like my car, family, friends, blah blah blah sad.gif

Which is why I feel so discouraged now. Most likely I'll hold off buying a new console until DOAX2 comes out. It's the only game that I really really wanna play at the moment tongue.gif Hopefully all 360s will be more stabler by then too.....
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 4 2006, 02:39 PM)
yeah, when I bought my machine (RM2K or so that time) I had to scrape for every sen that I can find to buy it. Now that my machine is dead, trying to find another RM1.5K or so for a new console is another huge task, especially with other things in life that takes priority like my car, family, friends, blah blah blah  sad.gif

Which is why I feel so discouraged now. Most likely I'll hold off buying a new console until DOAX2 comes out. It's the only game that I really really wanna play at the moment  tongue.gif Hopefully all 360s will be more stabler by then too.....
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bro try send back to japan using fedex lah. you dont have to buy a new console that cost you rm1.5k just email msoft singapore and workout a solutions. if not you email to msoft USA complained them kaw2.
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I did actually, but they gave me what sounds like a standard response:

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I do apologize for the inconvenience. I understand that when you play a game, use the Xbox Dashboard or the Xbox Guide, or wait for the console to start, the screen may freeze, but you do not receive an error message, and no lights flash on the console to indicate a problem.

Please try the following steps to resolve the concern youâeuro(tm)re having:
1.    Restart the console.
2.    Determine whether the issue has occurred more than one time. If this case is the first time that you have experienced this behavior, the issue may not occur again.
3.    Determine whether the Xbox 360 console is overheating. Make sure that the console is not in a poorly ventilated environment or near a heat source. Heat sources include TVs, computers, monitors, and other electrical devices.
a.    If the Xbox 360 console is in a poorly ventilated location, move it to a location that has sufficient ventilation, such as on top of a table or on the floor. If the issue is resolved, the previous location likely did not provide sufficient ventilation for the Xbox 360 console to correctly function.
b.    View the Xbox 360 instruction manual for information about correct placement of the console.
4.    Make sure that the Xbox 360 console is set to the correct time and date.
5.    Remove all unnecessary peripherals, and then test to see whether the problem still occurs.
6.    Determine whether the disc that you are using is the cause of the issue by testing several similar Xbox 360-compatible discs in the console. If the problem occurs with only one disc, use a disc of the same type, such as a game disc, a DVD movie, or a music CD, to test whether the problem is the specific disc.

If these steps do not resolve the issue, contact Xbox Customer Service

For further assistance, please don't hesitate to write back or call Xbox Phone Support

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I find no. 4 interesting....set the console time and date?? That's the first time I heard of such a solution tongue.gif

I don't think any of them applies to me, but maybe I'll give each one a shot when I go back.
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 4 2006, 02:41 PM)
bro try send back to japan using fedex lah. you dont have to buy a new console that cost you rm1.5k just email msoft singapore and workout a solutions. if not you email to msoft USA complained them kaw2.
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Honestly emailing MS sg is not gonna do any good... you have to remember that when we purchased the JP sets, they were units made and intended for the JP market only... so if anything happens you have to deal with MS jp... and guys do remember that the warranty period for the units are 90 days only... unless you purchased the extended warranty... so just go back to the vendor you got the machine from and see how much it would cost for them to send it back to jp and get it repaired...
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QUOTE(yoroi @ Aug 4 2006, 02:50 PM)
Honestly emailing MS sg is not gonna do any good... you have to remember that when we purchased the JP sets, they were units made and intended for the JP market only... so if anything happens you have to deal with MS jp... and guys do remember that the warranty period for the units are 90 days only... unless you purchased the extended warranty... so just go back to the vendor you got the machine from and see how much it would cost for them to send it back to jp and get it repaired...
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huh warranty 90 days only? not 1 year meh? then i better open up my 360 and do some modification macam bro metal lah

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QUOTE(shumaky @ Aug 4 2006, 02:28 PM)
^ Dont know if ajak's fault is caused by a faulty power adaptor or the x360 it self.
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its not caused by the power adapter since im using it now with my new console..so it shud be the console itself...n most likely to be d solder joints problem...coz thats d only fault I can think of right now since d error code was 0102.....yup bro dark..like bro judge said...try to ask MS first...u might be able to get a free repair for ur console if u r willing to wait....but most of the time they will still charge u for the repair which they have set for $130.00....thats minus shipping n call charges...so sum up it would be close to rm1000 to repair the console....and it cant be guaranteed that u will get back the exact console..they might change it to the refurb one n if say they've managed to repair it...i bet the problem will still persist in 1-2 months time...

considering all the above.....that is why i bought a new unit..then sell all the new accessories...which if u r lucky can cover almost half of the unit price.....after all..all i need is just the console...
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 4 2006, 02:51 PM)
huh warranty 90 days only? not 1 year meh? then i better open up my 360 and do some modification macam bro metal lah
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North American Xbox 360's warranty is 90 days only (not sure about Japan), but Australia (and maybe Singapore) warranty is 1 year.

European units get 2 years warranty because European law stated that electronics sold there must have minimum 2 years warranty.
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 4 2006, 02:56 PM)
its not caused by the power adapter since im using it now with my new console..so it shud be the console itself...n most likely to be d solder joints problem...coz thats d only fault I can think of right now since d error code was 0102.....yup bro dark..like bro judge said...try to ask MS first...u might be able to get a free repair for ur console if u r willing to wait....but most of the time they will still charge u for the repair which they have set for $130.00....thats minus shipping n call charges...so sum up it would be close to rm1000 to repair the console....and it cant be guaranteed that u will get back the exact console..they might change it to the refurb one n if say they've managed to repair it...i bet the problem will still persist in 1-2 months time...

considering all the above.....that is why i bought a new unit..then sell all the new accessories...which if u r lucky can cover almost half of the unit price.....after all..all i need is just the console...
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Interesting idea laugh.gif

But if I can repair for around RM500 I don't mind.....if more, then not worth the hassle, like you said there's a chance it'll break down again anyways.
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bro darkchaser just give it a try. pressure msoft more. just said lah you are 1 of the proud owners in malaysia that support original but if like this how to support original... better become captain jack sparrow
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@mzaidi - the warranty for the jap unit is 90 days.. just look at the card

@judge-the - we bought the units via parallel import... so officially we lost all customer support and rights the moment the units left jp..so all this emailing to ms sg and giving them pressure is gonna be an exercise in futility... not once does it say on our warranty cards that the units are covered by international warranty... it does say however that warranty is void if it has left jp
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QUOTE(yoroi @ Aug 4 2006, 03:24 PM)
@mzaidi - the warranty for the jap unit is 90 days.. just look at the card

@judge-the - we bought the units via parallel import... so officially we lost all customer support and rights the moment the units left jp..so all this emailing to ms sg and giving them pressure is gonna be an exercise in futility... not once does it say on our warranty cards that the units are covered by international warranty... it does say however that warranty is void if it has left  jp
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walauleh i am speechless now... i wanna become captain jack sparrow after this lah smile.gif
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hmm....I guess there's no way to get it repaired then sad.gif

c'monlah bro judge, me also become captain jack sparrow like this laugh.gif
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walauleh i am speechless now... i wanna become captain jack sparrow after this lah smile.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 4 2006, 03:42 PM)
hmm....I guess there's no way to get it repaired then  sad.gif

c'monlah bro judge, me also become captain jack sparrow like this  laugh.gif
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Captain Jack Sparrow sweat.gif But with the same problematic hardware, I think the "captain and his crew" won't have much "Adventure" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 4 2006, 04:42 PM)
hmm....I guess there's no way to get it repaired then  sad.gif

c'monlah bro judge, me also become captain jack sparrow like this  laugh.gif
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Be Jack Sparrow and be denied "entry" to every "port" you enter, and no maintainance for your "ship" when it berths into a port.

Microsoft see that people more interested in becoming the "crew of the Black Pearl", they pull out of all support, including the possible coverage of warranty. So please, hang in there while this comes to fruition. I see all of us Xbox 360 users above the trivialities and the shallow-mindedness of the guys in the Playstation section, where Pirates are king. We need to think of the repercussion of our actions in the future, not the immediate short term "rewards".
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Aug 4 2006, 04:00 PM)
Microsoft see that people more interested in becoming the "crew of the Black Pearl", they pull out of all support, including the possible coverage of warranty. So please, hang in there while this comes to fruition. I see all of us Xbox 360 users above the trivialities and the shallow-mindedness of the guys in the Playstation section, where Pirates are king. We need to think of the repercussion of our actions in the future, not the immediate short term "rewards".
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Pirates of the Carribbean "Dead Xbox360's Chest" hehehe icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 4 2006, 03:42 PM)
hmm....I guess there's no way to get it repaired then  sad.gif

c'monlah bro judge, me also become captain jack sparrow like this  laugh.gif
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is't ur transformer problem? cause mine one if not enough eletricity it will pop-up 3 blinking red light. sad.gif very miss u man wanna play doa with u again tongue.gif
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I doubt it, it actually doesn't come up with anything, the 360 just freezes.... no red lights, no error messages, just freeze..... the red lights only come up after the freezing
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 4 2006, 08:24 PM)
I doubt it, it actually doesn't come up with anything, the 360 just freezes.... no red lights, no error messages, just freeze..... the red lights only come up after the freezing
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ya, when u play arcade games it didt freeze because it not really use all the graphics card power at all..but when u play ur DVD games it will not enough electricity to push the graphics card so ur 360 cant do anything for just freeze it and blinking red lights. make sure ur home doesnt over run electrik like running at the same with ur 360 like washing machine, air-cond and another air-cond because ur 360 is very sensitive on electricity.

and now my 360 got another problem is when i play PGR3 when i crossing the New York Bridge it will suddenly drop framte rate to 15-20 rclxub.gif

bro dark, hope it help cause i already bosan with this issue rclxub.gif good luck and peace~

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Thanks for the concern, but I think my 360 is really done for. It froze when I started to download SF2 shocking.gif I didn't think downloading SF2 takes so much power... laugh.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(MobiusVyper @ Aug 3 2006, 11:14 PM)
Well the power went back on and everything is fine now. The voltage instability was definitely the cause of the problem. So watch your voltages everyone
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something that every xb360 should take note if their place power voltage isn't stable. unless u wanna brick of 1.5k tongue.gif


QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 4 2006, 03:42 PM)
hmm....I guess there's no way to get it repaired then  sad.gif

c'monlah bro judge, me also become captain jack sparrow like this  laugh.gif
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maybe can find a way contact MS SG? there's no more warranty, but as long as the seal is there, they might repaired it for a fee.
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I got 3red lights b4.. and appear a white screen saying some error code and text. Off the machine. Check my power connections (firmly cucuk or not) Count to 3 n boot up back. Walla.... Jump in.
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QUOTE(shumaky @ Aug 5 2006, 12:46 AM)
Al-kisah kotak-X360
I got 3red lights b4.. and appear a white screen saying some error code and text. Off the machine. Check my power connections (firmly cucuk or not) Count to 3 n boot up back. Walla.... Jump in.
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it depends..there are loads of error codes to be discovered....but if u still manage to see text coming out on d screen then its not a big deal..just like bro shumaky said just disconnect n reconnect everything n u r back on track...but if there is no video output at all...then thats it...u'll have to do a manual diagnosis to know the error code n if its appear to be 0102 then say rest in peace my beloved xbox 360....u shall be remembered today,tomorrow till i get a new one lah hehe...
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If you got error code, you consider lucky sweat.gif I don't get anything at all....
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i read that 0102 error can be fixed using the heat gun method? a lot of ppl have tried and successfully revived their xbox360
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i read that 0102 error can be fixed using the heat gun method? a lot of ppl have tried and successfully revived their xbox360
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yes indeed...i've watched the video on how to do it properly....I havent try it yet....dont have d experties n equipments to do it rclxub.gif ....but those who wants to try it can have my full premium set (d old console but comes with brand new accessories..new HDD,new power supply,new wireless controller,new headset)..coz im using my old accessories with my new console.....so hurry..make me an offer.....got 1 offer frm bro metal....anyone else interested??nothing to lose...if u cant revive the xbox then i'll give u a full refund icon_rolleyes.gif ....but there is a high chance of getting d xbox fixed....just want to get rid d old console n to help some of u to own 360 at a fraction of d ori price...n of course help me to cover some money buying d new set...
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ajak, I have the 0102 error too.... Been out of commision for a few months now. Can you please pass on the url to the video fix?
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ajak, I have the 0102 error too.... Been out of commision for a few months now. Can you please pass on the url to the video fix?
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hey guys..those who wants to fix their so called dead machine...here is d video url for u guys to watch n to try....good luck... thumbup.gif ....Hot Air Gun Fix

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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 6 2006, 07:24 PM)
hey guys..those who wants to fix their so called dead machine...here is d video url for u guys to watch n to try....good luck... thumbup.gif ....Hot Air Gun Fix
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macam tengok wayang M.I.P.4 :cabut C4 tongue.gif very nice to share kawan rclxms.gif
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Interesting.....the second problem in the video, the graphics one, is pretty much what I get now. But a bit risky, and I don't really know how to open up the 360....
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 6 2006, 10:01 PM)
Interesting.....the second problem in the video, the graphics one, is pretty much what I get now. But a bit risky, and I don't really know how to open up the 360....
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bro dark....go check it out on xbox-scene.com....they have step by step guide with pics that will help u to open ur console...all u need are d tools which they've also mentioned in there....nothin' to lose bro...unless u really want to send d console back to MS....if not then finger-crossed n have a go thumbup.gif

p/s: I dont think hair dryer would produce enuf heat to melt d solder right?if so then really need to use d one in d video....that can burn paper in an instant drool.gif

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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 6 2006, 09:37 PM)
bro dark....go check it out on xbox-scene.com....they have step by step guide with pics that will help u to open ur console...all u need are d tools which they've also mentioned in there....nothin' to lose bro...unless u really want to send d console back to MS....if not then finger-crossed n have a go thumbup.gif

p/s: I dont think hair dryer would produce enuf heat to melt d solder right?if so then really need to use d one in d video....that can burn paper in an instant drool.gif
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that blower is quite expensive. i always use it to blow plastick and make some boxes and more plastick tongue.gif jangan main-main that thing really burn ur hands like BBQ once u accidently touch it tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tailgunner @ Aug 6 2006, 11:50 PM)
that blower is quite expensive. i always use it to blow plastick and make some boxes and more plastick tongue.gif jangan main-main that thing really burn ur hands like BBQ once u accidently touch it tongue.gif
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waaa bro tail..can borrow or not?? tongue.gif...or rent ka hehe ...i might try to repair it myself then if manage to get that blower....
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hmmm after watching the video i think not easy also lah... hehehe... but still some hope lah
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 7 2006, 12:06 AM)
hmmm after watching the video i think not easy also lah... hehehe... but still some hope lah
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better try right bro judge biggrin.gif ??bit susah also for me to try n do it...warranty expired oledi n too many hassle if try to send it back to MS...if success then yeay rclxm9.gif but i would expect d 360 to be a bit fragile n need some xtra care....only 3 hours a day..no d/l...hehe...a bit like zombielaa...dead rising...mengong2 sket after revived laugh.gif
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u guys using the nyko cooler? maybe the cooler too powerful and make the I.C all sejuk tongue.gif

ajak25, how to borrow u leh? me from kuantan lah biggrin.gif if im the next who got this problem i try blow it la doh.gif laugh.gif
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i read it somewhere that all that got problem wun is from 1st batch. everyone here with a problem wun is from 1st batch? how to check whether its first batch or not ar? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tailgunner @ Aug 7 2006, 12:21 AM)
u guys using the nyko cooler? maybe the cooler too powerful and make the I.C all sejuk tongue.gif

ajak25, how to borrow u leh? me from kuantan lah biggrin.gif if im the next who got this problem i try blow it la doh.gif  laugh.gif
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um,most of u guys here using nyko intercooler right?so no need to worry la..hehe.
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IC make the x360 freezing.. well thats something new smile.gif
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okay la people. i want to know la. Tell be, the manufacturing month of those dead 360. I wanna know. I am real takut now. I even get nightmare itu hari, about my dead 360. haiyooo. nasibbaik mimpi. trauma oooo.
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This one nice but 'harga' almost like new xbox 360....

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another gamer X360 is down!! we need more back up!!.....Medic...Medic....!! 50COW 8 O'clock!!! Sniper second floor!! covering fired!!! german from the left side!!! too much off topic tongue.gif
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haaaa? not u too tailgunner?? cry.gif
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once my shop is settle I will bring one or two watercooler from United State and mod on the xbox 360 for viewing purpose~ laugh.gif

but also will order some if people wants to add water cooler into thier sweet xbox 360..

but come to think of it~. how many xbox 360 user down already?
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wei, now I am scared to buy a 360 with all these heating problems. Is it possible for me to buy a cool-modded 360?

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wei, now I am scared to buy a 360 with all these heating problems. Is it possible for me to buy a cool-modded 360?
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u can ask Djinn and buy console + watercooler from him...dunno how much... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Aug 12 2006, 09:18 PM)
once my shop is settle I will bring one or two watercooler from United State and mod on the xbox 360 for viewing purpose~ laugh.gif

but also will order some if people wants to add water cooler into thier sweet xbox 360..

but come to think of it~. how many xbox 360 user down already?
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Hi all....long time no see u guys biggrin.gif .... just for info....i'm the one down rclxm9.gif .... yesterday afternoon i've play FIFA...then after 1 minutes suddently freeze....after restart, then red light appear.... i think it's not overheating problem, coz i did'nt turn on my x360 since 3 days before.... i taken out all the cable and turn on my x360, red light still appear.... even i taken out my HDD still the same...until now i still cannot open my x360...
So guys... i think this is the end of my x360 journey cry.gif .... hopefully by the end of this year or early next year i'll be back....hope x360 price will be drop that time(due to Wii and ps3)...


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is the water cooler big?

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QUOTE(jijobest @ Aug 13 2006, 12:56 AM)
Hi all....long time no see u guys biggrin.gif .... just for info....i'm the one down rclxm9.gif .... yesterday afternoon i've play FIFA...then after 1 minutes suddently freeze....after restart, then red light appear.... i think it's not overheating problem, coz i did'nt turn on my x360 since 3 days before.... i taken out all the cable and turn on my x360, red light still appear.... even i taken out my HDD still the same...until now i still cannot open my x360...
So guys... i think this is the end of my x360 journey cry.gif .... hopefully by the end of this year or early next year i'll be back....hope x360 price will be drop that time(due to Wii and ps3)...
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Sorry dude.....sounds like you have the same problem as I'm having... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 13 2006, 06:16 AM)
Sorry dude.....sounds like you have the same problem as I'm having...  sad.gif
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bro dark, urs one still no chance? if jijobest is planning to get new one then i will use the hot air gun blow it. i hope im not the one too icon_question.gif
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hmmm guess all those including me that bought right after the official launch last november will be facing the "red light executioner" anytime. hmmm a bit dissapointed since i am for the first time going into ORIGINAL... all original. even if i stay in japan with my japanese set still useless because the warranty only 3 months. quite dissapointed here with this issue sad.gif
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 13 2006, 10:01 AM)
hmmm guess all those including me that bought right after the official launch last november will be facing the "red light executioner" anytime. hmmm a bit dissapointed since i am for the first time going into ORIGINAL... all original. even if i stay in japan with my japanese set still useless because the warranty only 3 months. quite dissapointed here with this issue sad.gif
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first batch always got some problem, any equipment the same. and MS stingy with the warranty also didn't help. IMO the only way to fix for now is see if MS SG can take it in for repair.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 13 2006, 10:15 AM)
first batch always got some problem, any equipment the same. and MS stingy with the warranty also didn't help. IMO the only way to fix for now is see if MS SG can take it in for repair.
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can we just list out here those that are down with the red lights thing. i might wanna compile some info and email msoft for enquiries. maybe can consider waste of time email msoft but at least i need a channel to voice out my dissatisfaction here.

1. darkchaser (japanese)
2. jijobest (japanese)
3. ajak
4.
5.
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^ cry.gif i dont want to be in that list.

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QUOTE(DDSFan8 @ Aug 13 2006, 02:25 AM)
is the water cooler big?
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If u want big watercooler u can use zalman pc water cooler..hehehe..there is a standard watercooler for 360..a little bit xpensive.. notworthy.gif
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sad to hear that bro jijo sad.gif
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 13 2006, 10:30 AM)
can we just list out here those that are down with the red lights thing. i might wanna compile some info and email msoft for enquiries. maybe can consider waste of time email msoft but at least i need a channel to voice out my dissatisfaction here.

1. darkchaser (japanese)
2. jijobest (japanese)
3. ajak
4.
5.
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MK84 suffer the same fate.
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whoa 4 persons already..ajak used japan premium correct?

OOT this guy jual 360 rm950(used)...whoa!!! notworthy.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=324552
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another status update,

can we just list out here those that are down with the red lights thing. i might wanna compile some info and email msoft for enquiries. maybe can consider waste of time email msoft but at least i need a channel to voice out my dissatisfaction here.

1. darkchaser (japanese)
2. jijobest (japanese)
3. ajak (asian)
4. mk84 (japanese)
5.

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post Aug 13 2006, 11:42 AM

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Yesterday midnight i've tried to do some experiment on my x360...tried to follow this tips ......How I modded my 360 back to life from the three red lights of death
I've manage to open face plate, right and left cover... but i'm stuck at the back cover...very difficult to open it...
What to do....this is the only hope that i can do right...takkan la nak biar macam tu aje kan...

BTW, any one knows where to get Arctic Silver or other brand high quality heat sink paste, as mention on the tips? I have to continue my experiment..
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QUOTE(jijobest @ Aug 13 2006, 11:42 AM)
Yesterday midnight i've tried to do some experiment on my x360...tried to follow this tips ......How I modded my 360 back to life from the three red lights of death
I've manage to open face plate, right and left cover... but i'm stuck at the back cover...very difficult to open it...
What to do....this is the only hope that i can do right...takkan la nak biar macam tu aje kan...

BTW, any one knows where to get Arctic Silver or other brand high quality heat sink paste, as mention on the tips? I have to continue my experiment..
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u want open your 360, rite? try this explore your 360

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post Aug 13 2006, 12:20 PM

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I dunno, I've read many horror stories of people who sent their broken 360s, and received a different, refurbished one when MS returned it sweat.gif That is just full on freaky.....

Without a doubt the 360 has been the most problematic console I've ever owned....... I owned and played original games for PS2, Xbox, GC before and never ever encountered hardware problems for so long. My 360, just over 6 months and it's already dead... doh.gif
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Jijo bro, to open the back part of the 360, you need an XCM tool, i've got two of em, for my 2 360 case replacement order, comes as apackaged kit. If you need one, gimme a holler, and i'll pass them to you.

I salute you bro Jijo, aku berani sampai bukak case jer, nak operate more than that, im chicken $hit! laugh.gif
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Hey if the japanese warantee is 3 months, is the asian one the same? then when halo3 comes out since i would have to pay to fix it by then anyways, might as well do straight away =D
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i'm using a japanese unit as well...been getting 3 or 4 times the blinking red light problem.. but after the restart everything work fine... kinda freaky for me
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For those budget punya style and want to buy 360 better wait till new CPU/model/batch come out next year...microsoft is still new in this console stuff...baru dua console...same goes with sony..ps one problem...ps2 lagi problem..early batch lah..later 'almost' everything okay... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 13 2006, 11:15 AM)
another status update,

can we just list out here those that are down with the red lights thing. i might wanna compile some info and email msoft for enquiries. maybe can consider waste of time email msoft but at least i need a channel to voice out my dissatisfaction here.

1. darkchaser (japanese)
2. jijobest (japanese)
3. ajak
4. mk84 (japanese)
5.
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my deepest and best wishes to bro darkchaser, jijobest,ajak and mk84 cry.gif
just a question tho...jap360=asian360??
is the jap unit that much of a difference frm the asian unit?
coz if im not mistaken the region code fr both units(ntsc/j) applies fr both
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QUOTE(MightySmiter @ Aug 13 2006, 04:23 PM)
my deepest and best wishes to bro darkchaser, jijobest,ajak and mk84 cry.gif
just a question tho...jap360=asian360??
is the jap unit that much of a difference frm the asian unit?
coz if im not mistaken the region code fr both units(ntsc/j) applies fr both
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count me in too tongue.gif hey...hey joking only... my..my.. 360 will be survive this shit issue...stop ....stop...ahhh!!!
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im back...phew...how come cuti sooooo busy??aarrghhh need more free time to play games....my old console was an asian set....im running my new baby for 6-9 hours straight everyday to download demos n trailers...is it a wise thing to do huhu....but i alwiz make sure d air around d console to flow using a fan....finger-crossed...stay alive as long as u can baby....tomorrow goin to low yat..try to find thermal paste...goin to rip open my broken 360 n revive it....
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QUOTE(MightySmiter @ Aug 13 2006, 05:23 PM)
my deepest and best wishes to bro darkchaser, jijobest,ajak and mk84 cry.gif
just a question tho...jap360=asian360??
is the jap unit that much of a difference frm the asian unit?
coz if im not mistaken the region code fr both units(ntsc/j) applies fr both
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asian set is for asia except japan...n yes both r ntsc/j coded...so not really sure d difference....for jap360 u'll have to use stepdown converter while no need for asian set....n jap set got remote huhu..my new baby was manufactured on 21/4/06 so i really hoped that Ms had done some improvements on d console.....or else i'll be doomed in 3-4 months time... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 13 2006, 09:58 PM)
asian set is for asia except japan...n yes both r ntsc/j coded...so not really sure d difference....for jap360 u'll have to use stepdown converter while no need for asian set....n jap set got remote huhu..my new baby was manufactured on 21/4/06 so i really hoped that Ms had done some improvements on d console.....or else i'll be doomed in 3-4 months time... sweat.gif
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This is off topic.

mine is 22-4-2006. so my xbox 360 is your xbox 360's brother la. anyway, almost averyone is facing problem with their xbox. mine was not the red light. mine is battling with evil red ants. urghhhhh.
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Better red ants than red lights..... tongue.gif

Aiyah...I hope Djinn brings in the latest, problem-free batch of 360s....I don't wanna have to buy a third 360 in another 6 months shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(necromanser @ Aug 13 2006, 11:52 PM)
This is off topic.

mine is 22-4-2006. so my xbox 360 is your xbox 360's brother la. anyway, almost averyone is facing problem with their xbox. mine was not the red light. mine is battling with evil red ants. urghhhhh.
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aiyahh then my new console is older than yours by 1 day..chaih...hehe neway let just pray that we wont get any red lights prob frm time to time...n hopefully (knowing that my manufacturing date is just 1 day b4 yours) she wont get any evil red ANTS problem laugh.gif ...
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 13 2006, 10:56 PM)
Better red ants than red lights.....  tongue.gif

Aiyah...I hope Djinn brings in the latest, problem-free batch of 360s....I don't wanna have to buy a third 360 in another 6 months  shakehead.gif
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hahahah. true. better red ants than red lights. but how do you feel when your xboax dead because of ants. hopefully none will happen to us. red is always bad. that goes to the red devil as wel. hahahah.
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QUOTE(necromanser @ Aug 13 2006, 11:31 PM)
hahahah. true. better red ants than red lights. but how do you feel when your xboax dead because of ants. hopefully none will happen to us. red is always bad. that goes to the red devil as wel. hahahah.
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heheh u have to call CSI:Kuala Lumpur hehehe laugh.gif
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add me to the list... cry.gif

japanese set...

yesterday, i put in a DVD and not even 1 minutes the whole thing freezes.. then tried to restart.. the light of doom...

even taking out all the accessories out also doesnt help...

considering to get a new asia premium set from djinn anyone needs

- new wireless controller
- new 20GB harddisk
- new headset
- new HD AV cable

I just need the console and power brick.. the rest im selling off

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QUOTE(goodspeed @ Aug 16 2006, 07:27 PM)
add me to the list...  cry.gif

japanese set...

yesterday, i put in a DVD and not even 1 minutes the whole thing freezes.. then tried to restart.. the light of doom...

even taking out all the accessories out also doesnt help...

considering to get a new asia premium set from djinn anyone needs

- new wireless controller
- new 20GB harddisk
- new headset
- new HD AV cable

I just need the console and power brick.. the rest im selling off
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waaa sori to hear that bro goodspeed...i just got d feeling that all d first batch console will go kaput in 1-2 months time...its just a matter of time....urghh...scary...
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 16 2006, 06:42 PM)
waaa sori to hear that bro goodspeed...i just got d feeling that all d first batch console will go kaput in 1-2 months time...its just a matter of time....urghh...scary...
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wei, dont say like that lah. my jp console been holding strong for 6 months and i hope it stays that way, no money to buy new one tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 16 2006, 06:42 PM)
i just got d feeling that all d first batch console will go kaput in 1-2 months time
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How to check mine is from which batch? From the serial number? DVD drive brand?
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QUOTE(hikaru_x @ Aug 16 2006, 07:46 PM)
wei, dont say like that lah. my jp console been holding strong for 6 months and i hope it stays that way, no money to buy new one  tongue.gif
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hehe....sori leh bro hikaru.....we all have high hopes to see our 360 lurking thru each day without any problems....urs will be staying strong..dun wori icon_rolleyes.gif ...hehe...tomorrow what time bro rolleyes.gif ?
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 13 2006, 10:30 AM)
can we just list out here those that are down with the red lights thing. i might wanna compile some info and email msoft for enquiries. maybe can consider waste of time email msoft but at least i need a channel to voice out my dissatisfaction here.

1. darkchaser (japanese)
2. jijobest (japanese)
3. ajak
4.
5.
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dont leave blanks there, its a bad omen tongue.gif

QUOTE(jijobest @ Aug 13 2006, 11:42 AM)
Yesterday midnight i've tried to do some experiment on my x360...tried to follow this tips ......How I modded my 360 back to life from the three red lights of death
I've manage to open face plate, right and left cover... but i'm stuck at the back cover...very difficult to open it...
What to do....this is the only hope that i can do right...takkan la nak biar macam tu aje kan...

BTW, any one knows where to get Arctic Silver or other brand high quality heat sink paste, as mention on the tips? I have to continue my experiment..
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artic silver can be bought fr any PC shop in LYP

Btw, wat are the causes of this 3 red lights problem? Howcome can spoil just like that..not all the units have these problem rite?..can it be prevented fr happening?

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QUOTE(scpt @ Aug 16 2006, 07:55 PM)
dont leave blanks there, its a bad omen tongue.gif
artic silver can be bought fr any PC shop in LYP

Btw, wat are the causes of this 3 red lights problem? Howcome can spoil just like that..not all the units have these problem rite?..can it be prevented fr happening?
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it depends...loads of error codes can be diagnosed by those 3 red blinking red lights....it can be anything...cable connection...power supply...overheat...unstable voltage...hard drive..but d most common one is d general hardware problem....n d most scariest one is when u cant get any display frm d moment u switched on d console n no matter what u do..reconnect cable...hard drive..restarting 50-100 times...d red lights just wont stop blinking....n thats it....but it was ought to be repairable but i havent tried it yet...just dont have time n tools to do so....if have all d tools i will definitely open a tutotial threads to share with those suffering frm d same fate n to all LYN 360 members.....can some one lend me a hot air gun please..please..please?? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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I've had multiple times of these 3 red lights , consider normal already. Even when iafter i fitted the new cases, it turned red multple times. Most of the time, its the power cable. It's not inserted properly, or i plugged it in without the Intercooler and it runs fine. After a few minutes, with the Intercooler, it run fine as well. I suspect that the 360 needs a stable current in which the Intercooler is robbing the 360 of some of its current.

Ajak, if you want the XCM tool, i'll be at Imbi today. Just need to finish encoding the Silent Hill movie into my video server, and i'll be off to TNL.
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Mmmm.. my dad got one hot gun... 2000W.. is that the one ?

Maybe we can arrange a meeting together and try to fix it up. Also serve as an learning experience for those worrying when they will be next.?

Any takers ?




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QUOTE(goodspeed @ Aug 17 2006, 02:45 PM)
Mmmm.. my dad got one hot gun... 2000W.. is that the one ?

Maybe we can arrange a meeting together and try to fix it up. Also serve as an learning experience for those worrying when they will be next.?

Any takers ?
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goodspeed..me me me..please reserve d air gun for me drool.gif drool.gif ...hehe..went out to buy one but rm265..not worth it huhu.....maybe we can meet n open d console together....those with dead 360 are also invited....lets meet n hot air gunned our console n revive them back flex.gif..what say you?? ....bro string..what time will u be at imbi??
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don't put the hot gun too near to your motherboard. you will melt your motheroard instead..
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Aug 17 2006, 03:40 PM)
don't put the hot gun too near to your motherboard. you will melt your motheroard instead..
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boss djinn...have u try it?do u know what is d suitable temperature to blow d cpu,gpu n motherboard without melting them or cause severe damage??or maybe can go fix at ur shop hehe.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 17 2006, 02:46 PM)
boss djinn...have u try it?do u know what is d suitable temperature to blow d cpu,gpu n motherboard without melting them or cause severe damage??or maybe can go fix at ur shop hehe.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I got a technician that has a hot gun. but I also need where and "specific" tempeture as well.. I don't want to make the xbox 360 dead.. yet become a fried chicken inside. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Aug 17 2006, 03:48 PM)
I got a technician that has a hot gun. but I also need where and "specific" tempeture as well.. I don't want to make the xbox 360 dead.. yet become a fried chicken inside. laugh.gif
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i have included a video tutorial to do so in my previous post....u an check it...i will try to find d temperature required....if can then will ask ur technician help la boss...ok? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 17 2006, 02:51 PM)
i have included a video tutorial to do so in my previous post....u an check it...i will try to find d temperature required....if can then will ask ur technician help la boss...ok? thumbup.gif
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should be ok I guess. but I also need tools to open the xbox 360. (specific tools)
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Aug 17 2006, 03:53 PM)
should be ok I guess. but I also need tools to open the xbox 360. (specific tools)
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bro string got em......supposely im goin to borrow d tools frm him...im so tired to go to imbi now to meet him.... yawn.gif ..demam n batuk huhu....
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ajak, keep us update on your fixing xbox 360 adventure!
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 17 2006, 02:56 PM)
bro string got em......supposely im goin to borrow d tools frm him...im so tired to go to imbi now to meet him.... yawn.gif ..demam n batuk huhu....
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you need MC? hehehe
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Ugh...I have this sickness called "3 blinking red lights" demam. Bro judge, need your help to get MC..... whistling.gif
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Judge, jual MC ke skarang..? hehehe smile.gif
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 21 2006, 12:37 AM)
you need MC? hehehe
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hehe bro judge..can can please please....me sihat oledi now......next time sakit will search for u till lubang cacing.....craving for ur MC....nyehehe....will meet up with bro goodspeed sometime this week....n try to open up d console n repair it... brows.gif
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I did it!!! I fixed my 3 red lights of death problem!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

I cracked open my dead xbox (0102 error) as per the tutorials.... The heat sinks were a b**** to remove. Upon removing it I found that the thermal paste that they used had melted into a gooey mess and rolled off into nearby ICs. I had my xbox standing upright... So my advice to everyone is to have your xboxes lay down horizontally so that when/if your thermal paste turns to gunk, it will not short out other chips.

I then cleaned the gunk up with a desolvent & alcohol.... I was going to put in some replacement thermal paste but didnt have any at hand. My brother who have used the paste before said that it may not be neccesary to do so... So I put it all back together without any paste... Made sure that the heat sink was tighten against the CPU/GPU and it all worked!!! Well actually I had other issues but it was all sorted out. Played COD, some demos, watch a DVD... no problem...

No need to use heat gun...

So there is life after 3 rings of light!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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Hey jino! Where are you located!! I'm sending my 360 to you to repair!! Seriously man, if you can fix it then I would really really like for you to fix it for me.

But not sure if mine is the same problem....I've had my 360 horizontal for pretty much most of the time, so the thermal paste shouldn't have affected my other ICs....

Anyhoos, congrats, and I'm coming to your place soon! laugh.gif
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Hi Ajak,
Nice to hear this great news. smile.gif
We shall put this thread as sticky so that any xbox360 with error code 0102 will be able to share their experience on this.

Maybe you can be the organiser to do a "heat gun" 360 fixing fest in Malaysia rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 22 2006, 06:50 AM)
Hey jino! Where are you located!! I'm sending my 360 to you to repair!! Seriously man, if you can fix it then I would really really like for you to fix it for me.

But not sure if mine is the same problem....I've had my 360 horizontal for pretty much most of the time, so the thermal paste shouldn't have affected my other ICs....

Anyhoos, congrats, and I'm coming to your place soon!  laugh.gif
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I'm in Segamat, Johor... tongue.gif 2.5 hours from KL. It's really not that hard to do by yourself. It's just the learning curve of cracking open the case and removing the heat sink. Cleaning the thermal paste requires a plastic knife, desolvent & alcohol. The opening tools you can buy from any hardware store.

I encountered another 3 red lights problem yesterday after my fix but it went away. I think there were some remnant gunk under some of the smaller ICs that had reheated. Luckily it went away after 2-3 reboots.

I can see that even having the xbox360 horizontal can still cause the 0102 problem. There just is so much of the stuff that it has to go somewhere rclxub.gif


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uhhhuuhuh. please confirm this with me, are those 360 made in 2005?
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Aiyoo....segamat is sooo far... sad.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Dothan @ Aug 22 2006, 08:43 AM)
Hi Ajak,
Nice to hear this great news. smile.gif
We shall put this thread as sticky so that any xbox360 with error code 0102 will be able to share their experience on this.

Maybe you can be the organiser to do a "heat gun" 360 fixing fest in Malaysia rclxms.gif
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haha, do tell me if u guys really wanna do a 'heatgun fest', i have access to one and i can bring it along to join the fun, LoL. i 'have access' only, not 'have skill', but if we nvr try we'd never know rite? tongue.gif

*edit: hmm, if such event would really happen, it could make it to xbox-scene news biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Jino @ Aug 22 2006, 03:10 AM)
I did it!!! I fixed my 3 red lights of death problem!! rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

I cracked open my dead xbox (0102 error) as per the tutorials.... The heat sinks were a b**** to remove. Upon removing it I found that the thermal paste that they used had melted into a gooey mess and rolled off into nearby ICs. I had my xbox standing upright... So my advice to everyone is to have your xboxes lay down horizontally so that when/if your thermal paste turns to gunk, it will not short out other chips.

I then cleaned the gunk up with a desolvent & alcohol.... I was going to put in some replacement thermal paste but didnt have any at hand. My brother who have used the paste before said that it may not be neccesary to do so... So I put it all back together without any paste... Made sure that the heat sink was tighten against the CPU/GPU and it all worked!!! Well actually I had other issues but it was all sorted out. Played COD, some demos, watch a DVD... no problem...

No need to use heat gun...

So there is life after 3 rings of light!! rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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Quick update for everyone... I had a few 2 red lights error and a few 3 red lights error today. I rebooted a few times and managed to use the xbox. Later in the afternoon, the 3 red lights came back permanently.. So I opened up the box again (this time it was easier with experience), and had a look at the chips. There was some hidden thermal paste that I couldn't get at beneath the ICs yesterday and they had ooze out and shorted again... So I cleaned again with desolvent and alcohol... Put it back together and it work!!!! yay!!!

Not too sure how many times I have to redo this until all the thermal paste comes out.
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QUOTE(Jino @ Aug 22 2006, 09:33 PM)
Quick update for everyone... I had a few 2 red lights error and a few 3 red lights error today. I rebooted a few times and managed to use the xbox.  Later in the afternoon, the 3 red lights came back permanently.. So I opened up the box again (this time it was easier with experience), and had a look at the chips. There was some hidden thermal paste that I couldn't get at beneath the ICs yesterday and they had ooze out and shorted again... So I cleaned again with desolvent and alcohol... Put it back together and it work!!!! yay!!!

Not too sure how many times I have to redo this until all the thermal paste comes out.
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but wouldn't it be risky to not put new thermal paste?
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QUOTE(Jino @ Aug 22 2006, 09:33 PM)
Quick update for everyone... I had a few 2 red lights error and a few 3 red lights error today. I rebooted a few times and managed to use the xbox.  Later in the afternoon, the 3 red lights came back permanently.. So I opened up the box again (this time it was easier with experience), and had a look at the chips. There was some hidden thermal paste that I couldn't get at beneath the ICs yesterday and they had ooze out and shorted again... So I cleaned again with desolvent and alcohol... Put it back together and it work!!!! yay!!!

Not too sure how many times I have to redo this until all the thermal paste comes out.
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Had another 3 red lights episode and removed the heat sink and cleaned just the GPU chip... Just a little bit more remnant thermal paste to clean up beneath the IC. Put it back together and all OK for now... So it's 3 times now that I had to give my xbox 360 the kiss of life!!!
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but wouldn't it be risky to not put new thermal paste?
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The thermal paste is basically to assist the transfer of heat between the chips and heat sink. However if there is good contact between the two, you should be OK. I don't think you will encounter any major problem without the thermal paste. The xbox is pretty good at switching into 2 red lights mode (over heating) whenever it gets too hot. I found that if you don't have the heat sink on or if it is not touching fully with the chip, it will go into overheated mode almost immediately. The thermal paste probably gives you maybe another 20-30% more heat transfer efficiency.

However if you use too much or low quality thermal paste, you will encounter the 3 red lights which is a worse problem to have... So for now, I am perservering without thermal paste..
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IMHO better apply thermal paste, just for safety precautions tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jino @ Aug 22 2006, 10:33 PM)
Quick update for everyone... I had a few 2 red lights error and a few 3 red lights error today. I rebooted a few times and managed to use the xbox.  Later in the afternoon, the 3 red lights came back permanently.. So I opened up the box again (this time it was easier with experience), and had a look at the chips. There was some hidden thermal paste that I couldn't get at beneath the ICs yesterday and they had ooze out and shorted again... So I cleaned again with desolvent and alcohol... Put it back together and it work!!!! yay!!!

Not too sure how many times I have to redo this until all the thermal paste comes out.
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yeah bro...why not provide us with some pics n tutorial like video drool.gif drool.gif ..that would be very helpful indeed for us here thumbup.gif ....btw notworthy.gif notworthy.gif to u coz managed to revive ur xbox 3 times oledi....did u use articlean to clean d thermal paste?
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I don't think so. Less than half a dozen cases out of about a hundred console (in this forum) is pretty reasonable for any product.

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to whom it may concern: saw some 'ayam' brand 1600w heatgun selling at Tesco PG last night for rm49.90. i assume other Tescos should hv it too.
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 23 2006, 09:38 AM)
yeah bro...why not provide us with some pics n tutorial like video drool.gif  drool.gif ..that would be very helpful indeed for us here thumbup.gif ....btw  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  to u coz managed to revive ur xbox 3 times oledi....did u use articlean to clean d thermal paste?
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There are other tutorials out there on how to open the xbox. The only thing different that I do is removing the heat sinks and removing and cleaning the thermal paste with a plastic knife and using cotton buds dipped with desolvent and alcohol. Not very exciting video/photo ops. Anyway I will take some photos next time I open the xbox.

I do not have articlean, so I use a desolvent called De-Solv-It bought from Ace hardware store. The only thing that I worry is that it might be corrosive. Hopefully the alcohol that I use afterwards will remove the desolvent. Better to use articlean if you can get it. Also use toothpicks to get at between the IC's legs biggrin.gif
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Be mindful that the 3 red lights problems does notnecesarily mean it is isolated to the processor/GPU chip only. There is a video tutorial at Xbox-Scene exemplifying a case where the culprit is not only the baked-off thermal paste at these 2 main chips, but also because the video RAM chips are overheating due to being in confined and cramped space in the vicinity of the heatsink. In another case, the solders around the IC circuits have been done poorly, resulting in broken contacts around the circuitry.

Hence why in the video tutorial, it is recommended to heat the area around the video RAM chips and surrrounding by the heat gun, to slowly melt the solders , improving contacts back again.

I hang out in other forum/boards as well, and their defects are more severe than simple baked-off thermal paste. And every single one of those brave souls there also agree that thermal paste is absolutely necessary, not only to provide thermal contact but because of the limited clearance between components within the immediate area. IIANM, direct contact between the heatsink and the processor, might results in a few video RAM chips being stifled of air cooling because the heatsink is in the way.

Just sharing what the others are experiencing in other forums.
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QUOTE(hikaru_x @ Aug 23 2006, 10:28 AM)
to whom it may concern: saw some 'ayam' brand 1600w heatgun selling at Tesco PG last night for rm49.90. i assume other Tescos should hv it too.
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I might get the cap ayam heatgun to prevent any mishap happens!! unsure.gif
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yep, Penang XB360 gamer here.
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Hikaru is living in Penang?
I might get the cap ayam heatgun to prevent any mishap happens!!  unsure.gif
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not to prevent the mishap with hot air gun but to revive the dead. biggrin.gif
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or maybe to repel the dead? lol, sorry, i was just being Dead Rising deprived.

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i might do some "ujikaji" thinking of using pc watercooler ...hmmm.. notworthy.gif ..2 reasons (i think so) why its happened..stupid brick or gpu/cpu too hot.. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(windows_sux @ Aug 23 2006, 03:50 PM)
i might do some "ujikaji" thinking of using pc watercooler ...hmmm.. notworthy.gif ..2 reasons (i think so) why its happened..stupid brick or gpu/cpu too hot.. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(necromanser @ Aug 23 2006, 09:08 PM)
oi. ko betul2 ada collect fund utk wii ka? hahahha. dah 300 tuh. Agaknya la kan, berapa harga bendalah tuh?
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hahah tengah kumpul...hopefully tak mahal...budget around RM800-900? notworthy.gif

Update: i just bought 360 console from darkchaser yesterday...(just wanna see if i can fix this thing- tak berani nak buat on my own 360 lol) as u all know his console is having lord of the ring saga (3 red lights) ..then i do everything that i read in internet (not open the case yet coz i waiting for my friend this weekend to open it - aku tak berani nak bukak) then somehow i gatal tangan i press and hold the sync button (u know that small white button), while holding that button i also press the eject button..then it will blinking/flashing red faster (4 red now) then i said WTF...i off then on it back its works lol...i turn off and unplug and replug and turn on it still working...now already 30 mins..aku nak cuba on for 1 hr then tidur coz already 4.20am today kerja hahaha ..so will give u guys some news tomorrow/today lol...either it will work or not...sleep tight guys.. notworthy.gif

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still working windows_sux ?
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If it works return the console back to me vmad.gif tongue.gif Don't repair so easily la, at least work for it so I don't feel bad selling to you laugh.gif

But seriously, play around with the console more.....so you can be our repairman in case anyone else's 360 dies smile.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 24 2006, 07:18 PM)
If it works return the console back to me  vmad.gif  tongue.gif Don't repair so easily la, at least work for it so I don't feel bad selling to you  laugh.gif

But seriously, play around with the console more.....so you can be our repairman in case anyone else's 360 dies  smile.gif
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aduh penatnya kalau tidur 3 jam then terus keja hahahaha..i dont have time to play..but my bro did play..so far so good...takpe later aku cuba pulak and biarkan on...start from now till midnite... laugh.gif..i dont think i can be full time repairman jadi lain plak nanti hahaha...lucky kot dengan console kau tu..tapi cubalah for those yang ada problem tu..sape tau..yawwwnnn..!! yawn.gif
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Ajak bro, hope you got better luck with the tools. Snakes on the Plane in 1 hr. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Aug 24 2006, 09:18 PM)
Ajak bro, hope you got better luck with the tools. Snakes on the Plane in 1 hr. tongue.gif
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hehe bro dark....u mesti frust menonggengkan laugh.gif .....u got magic touchla bro windows....come touch my console la...usap2.... laugh.gif laugh.gif ...lucky u...
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Frust giler!!! vmad.gif tongue.gif

But takpelah....at least dpt a new console, that hopefully will be OK for a while....
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No prob Ajak bro, tadi test market tgk movie best ke tak. Snakes On A Plane fcukings rawks! It's like Speed on steroid, in a muthafakin' (to quote Samuel L Jackson's character, Agent Flynn) plane! Very hard edged movie!

Ko simpan dulu XCM tool tuh, bleh guna masa bedah siasat ngan Goodspeed nanti.
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 24 2006, 09:28 PM)
hehe bro dark....u mesti frust menonggengkan laugh.gif .....u got magic touchla bro windows....come touch my console la...usap2.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif ...lucky u...
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kadanglakan... terasa macam red light tuh macam yg selalu jadi dekat xbox lama. on je lampu jadi merah lip lap lip lap. sepuluh kali cuba mesti jalan macam biasa. hmmmm. kalau problem macam ni tadahal la kan.

semoga yg mati itu akan hidup kembali. amennnn!!
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Aug 25 2006, 12:29 AM)
No prob Ajak bro, tadi test market tgk movie best ke tak. Snakes On A Plane fcukings rawks! It's like Speed on steroid, in a muthafakin' (to quote Samuel L Jackson's character, Agent Flynn) plane! Very hard edged movie!

Ko simpan dulu XCM tool tuh, bleh guna masa bedah siasat ngan Goodspeed nanti.
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waaaa.... drool.gif drool.gif tempting aa nih....shud joined u la just now....ask andy to join also haha laugh.gif laugh.gif ....btw i've already finished tanggaling my broken 360nyer baju....seems like i still need that T7 torx screwdriver to open d cover to reveal d lower circuitboard...but ur XCM tools really helps thumbup.gif ...easy as 123...but to reassemble it again would be a fuss sweat.gif ....have took some pics but will kumpul till everything finished n will do a nice report..if success la wink.gif
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Who woulda thoght the simple diagnostic tool can revive my console? tongue.gif Patut aku dengar cakap ko la ajak.....aku malas nak try diagnostic tu eventhough ko bagitau aku itu hari laugh.gif

Ohoho....Djinn c'mon bro, give me my new console so that I can forget all about this.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 25 2006, 08:56 AM)
Who woulda thoght the simple diagnostic tool can revive my console?  tongue.gif Patut aku dengar cakap ko la ajak.....aku malas nak try diagnostic tu eventhough ko bagitau aku itu hari  laugh.gif

Ohoho....Djinn c'mon bro, give me my new console so that I can forget all about this....  laugh.gif
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hehe....nak buat camne bro...its ok..ur new baby ade kat djinn now...take it...open it...pasang it...njoyyyyyyyy it rclxm9.gif ....forget all d kisah lame laugh.gif ....jgn letak vertical..letak horizontal like bro jino said....
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ajak...

you manage to revive your 360 yet ???

this weekend macam mana ?? cancel ???




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QUOTE(goodspeed @ Aug 25 2006, 10:28 AM)
ajak...

you manage to revive your 360 yet ???

this weekend macam mana ?? cancel ???
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ugpm bro... icon_rolleyes.gif ...eh on...just very tempted yesterday when got d tools frm bro string...just wanna have a look inside d broken 360...bought some nanofusion(coolermaster) thermal compund n articleaner as well if u want to change d thermal paste..share it with me laa...can split d cost hehe tongue.gif ..i'll be seeing u this sunday around 3...so at ur house or office?
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 25 2006, 10:26 AM)
ugpm bro... icon_rolleyes.gif ...eh on...just very tempted yesterday when got d tools frm bro string...just wanna have a look inside d broken 360...bought some nanofusion(coolermaster) thermal compund n articleaner as well if u want to change d thermal paste..share it with me laa...can split d cost hehe tongue.gif ..i'll be seeing u this sunday around 3...so at ur house or office?
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just pm you

no problem we can share.... biggrin.gif


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Ehem....ehem...how to begin??

rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif yeaaaaaaaayyyy rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif...i've successfully gave my xbox360 a kiss of life...
As planned...I went to bro goodspeed house at 3 to start our special op on our bloody dead xbox..we've done both HOT AIR GUN FIX & THERMAL PASTE MOD..first we need to prepare all d tools required:

1. XCM tool
2. Torx allen key (to open all d silver screws) 'star head allen key'
3. Torx screwdriver size 8 (T8) (to open all d black screws) 'star head screwdriver'
4. Alcohol or desolvent or Articlean or Wine (us using wine sponsored by bro goodspeed laugh.gif laugh.gif )
5. Heat gun (black n decker)
6. Tin Foil
7. Nanofusion Thermal Paste

First use the xcm tools n torx allen key to open d xbox case.Follow the tutorial here Opening The Console..d tools used by them are quite incorrect...so use d size we've mentioned.

The XCM tools:

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After done opening the case,use d T8 screwdriver to screw open all d 8 black screws ...then use it again to unscrew another 3 blackscrews on d RF unit (power button).Then detach the RF unit from the main board.Now unplug the fan then push the back of the console a bit to give some space for the fan to come out.

Then you will have to remove the X heatsink holder (X clamps) underneath the circuit board.Use a plyer to unclip it.This process would be a bit hard n really pain in d a**.Will put the videos up later.

After that you guys can detach the heatsinks and voilla...there are your CPU n GPU being smeared all over by d thermal paste.Very poorly done by MS.Some of the thermal paste even get between the ic's legs like bro jino said and might cause some problem.This might be the root to the 0102 error codes.

So using xbox live prepaid card or any unused card of course...use ur credit card for better results laugh.gif ,scrape away all d thermal paste then clean it up using alcohol. We used wine to clean it...not that efficient though laugh.gif ..hopefully after this no red ants will come n hunt my 360 sweat.gif sweat.gif .

Follow this tutorial for better results:
Thermal Paste Clean.

Do not follow the thermal paste appliance step...just the cleaning steps.In other words dont apply the thermal paste first la.

After your CPU n GPU have been cleaned,prepare your circuit board for hot gun session.Follow the video tutorial.

Hot Air Gun Fix

After 20 mins then its time to apply a new thermal paste on both CPU n GPU.We used the nanofusion (coolermaster) thermal paste...now follow the thermal paste appliance steps.But dont put too many...put even smaller amount than suggested.This is because when u put the heatsink back n tighten it,it will squeeze the thermal paste and if u put too many,it will ooze out again and cause problem again for the ic's.

Now,assemble everything back together and cross ur fingers n pray it will work.It worked for me though thank God. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Conclusion,Hot Air Gun Fix will help the loose solder back in place and the Thermal Paste Mod will help you to clean some of the original thermal paste that oozed out and blocking several IC's and replace them with a better thermal paste.The 0102 error code might have been caused by the loose solder or by the blockage on certain IC's legs.

So now i can confirm that the hot gun fix and thermal paste fix both will help revive ur dead console. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Tribute to bro goodspeed for the hot air gun and space to work..his roomla...very messy now..hehe sorry bro x sempat kemas la just now..u were in a hurry..and also to bro String for the XCM tools..owe u one bro...

Hope this tutorial will help those facing or will face the same problem.Goodluck!!

If not then,send the console to me la...me and goodspeed will be opening a repairshop soon ahahaha...u guys will get special discount icon_rolleyes.gif ...no lah..kidding only heheh

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good job bro ajak rclxms.gif rclxms.gif , bila nak datang rumah?
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good job bro ajak  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif , bila nak datang rumah?
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I've done a test run last night just to see whether there will be any problems or not.

1st test = 2 hours of gaming
All went fine without any lockups,hanging and graphic error thumbup.gif .

2nd test = 6 hours marathon - normal mode
Switch it off....let it rest for 2 hours then switch it back on again...all went fine..boot up first time. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Further test coming soon.Will keep u guys updated.

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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 28 2006, 08:18 AM)
I've done a test run last night just to see whether there will be any problems or not.

1st test = 2 hours of gaming
All went fine without any lockups,hanging and graphic error thumbup.gif .

2nd test = 6 hours marathon - normal mode
Switch it off....let it rest for 2 hours then switch it back on again...all went fine..boot up first time. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Further test coming soon.Will keep u guys updated.
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excellent... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 28 2006, 08:18 AM)
I've done a test run last night just to see whether there will be any problems or not.

1st test = 2 hours of gaming
All went fine without any lockups,hanging and graphic error thumbup.gif .

2nd test = 6 hours marathon - normal mode
Switch it off....let it rest for 2 hours then switch it back on again...all went fine..boot up first time. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Further test coming soon.Will keep u guys updated.
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so project nak sumbat watercooler bila plak.. notworthy.gif

INFO = yesterday gaming for almost 5 hours non-stop still stable...darkchaser i think i know what is wrong with ur x-console la..ur AV cable sangat sensitif.. notworthy.gif

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AV cable? Don't think so..... Aku pakai 3rd party VGA cable dulu, skrg pun masih lagi pakai VGA cable yg sama, no probs. Maybe the AV port on the console?
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AV cable? Don't think so..... Aku pakai 3rd party VGA cable dulu, skrg pun masih lagi pakai VGA cable yg sama, no probs. Maybe the AV port on the console?
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2nd day of testing = successful

8 hours running non-stop downloading.....still goin strong...enuf testing hehe...now simpan... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Aug 27 2006, 09:57 PM)
So using xbox live prepaid card or any unused card of course...use ur credit card  for better results laugh.gif ,scrape away all d thermal paste then clean it up using alcohol. We used wine to clean it...not that efficient though laugh.gif ..hopefully after this no red ants will come n hunt my 360 sweat.gif  sweat.gif


if u get red ant then use my recipe. kompem takde red ants punya. ahhaha laugh.gif

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I got Condemned Criminal Orgins like 2 months back. Even when I first played it after 40 minutes or so system shuts off and two red lights appear. What's going on here. I spent 210 bucks on something i cannot play for more than half an hour? rclxub.gif

Other games i can spend 6 hours non stop and still a-okay...
can someone please tell me whats going on.The game is in mint condition. vmad.gif
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2 red lights usually mean overheating
hows the ventilation of ur 360 and just wanna reconfirm, which quadrants showed the red lights?
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Well ventilated in an open space, its just Condemned every other game works just fine for long periods of time.
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helllpppppppppppp me my console go crazy waaaaaa... three red lights come out waaaa........ cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif from yesterday night till now ...help me plezz... window sux how diagnos dude ??? help meeeee.... waaa i want to play game sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 3 2006, 12:45 PM)
helllpppppppppppp me my console go crazy waaaaaa... three red lights come out waaaa........  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  from yesterday night till now ...help me plezz... window sux how diagnos dude ??? help meeeee.... waaa i want to play game  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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oiitt bro...aduuhh...kesian ko..huhu...xpela aku paham perasaan ko...mmg x best rasenyer....well actually the one I revived last week also gone dead again on friday...so will go to bro goodspeed's house again to borrow his father's hot gun....will probably go there sometimes nex week...so kalo ko nak join...contact aku 0133658381....rasenyer if hot gun pun it will revive ur xbox for a certain limit of time...im selling my xbox now..too many problems lah...will wait for newer batch then buy again...
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How come nowadays I see mostly everyone having this RED blinking light of death, last time I heard when this happen mostly is due to faulty HDD, izzit true or now there more towards other stuff.
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then i think i just send to the shop la they did said they give me bout 1 year waranty.. btw what is the exact amount of waranty time for asian console ?????
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Sep 3 2006, 10:44 PM)
How come nowadays I see mostly everyone having this RED blinking light of death, last time I heard when this happen mostly is due to faulty HDD, izzit true or now there more towards other stuff.
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nowadays many factors can coz problem to 360....nyko intercooler..thermal paste oozing out...loose av port...solder joint loose....etc etc....almost giving up for xbox...
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Sep 3 2006, 11:01 PM)
nowadays many factors can coz problem to 360....nyko intercooler..thermal paste oozing out...loose av port...solder joint loose....etc etc....almost giving up for xbox...
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and in US this guy kena red lights bcoz dont have enough power supply so when he plug it to main switch can play..hahahah microsoft..i love u... notworthy.gif
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if i cannot revive my box it will be a long wait till next one ......my my im so sad
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quite saddening..
when most of us here pay our hard earn money to support 360.. and then all these things happen..
its not like any of you were using pirated stuff or anything that will spoilt it.. even some of u bought nyko and take really good care of it like your baby.. but yet it still spoilt..
microsoft is spoilling their own reputation and also trust..
what the hell!
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QUOTE(prazole @ Sep 4 2006, 03:15 AM)
quite saddening..
when most of us here pay our hard earn money to support 360.. and then all these things happen..
its not like any of you were using pirated stuff or anything that will spoilt it.. even some of u bought nyko and take really good care of it like your baby.. but yet it still spoilt..
microsoft is spoilling their own reputation and also trust..
what the hell!
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all i can say is just minimize ur gaming time and just put 3-4 standfan around ur 360 each time u play....then d 360 will be quite happier to live longer than usual laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 4 2006, 01:10 AM)
if i cannot revive my box it will be a long wait till next one ......my my im so sad
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dont loose any hope yet. you still got warranty from the shop so still got chances.

QUOTE(prazole @ Sep 4 2006, 03:15 AM)
quite saddening..
when most of us here pay our hard earn money to support 360.. and then all these things happen..
its not like any of you were using pirated stuff or anything that will spoilt it.. even some of u bought nyko and take really good care of it like your baby.. but yet it still spoilt..
microsoft is spoilling their own reputation and also trust..
what the hell!
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well about this i really lost hope already!
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Sep 4 2006, 07:40 AM)
all i can say is just minimize  ur gaming time and just put 3-4 standfan around ur 360 each  time u play....then d 360 will be quite happier to live longer than usual laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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ajak u know this is not possible right?
how long it takes to download a demo or a trailer from the marketplace?
probably overnight!

and how long u use to play? sometimes u play 24 hours non-stop..
it is a console afterall.. i dont remember ps1 spoilt this fast..
in fact mine still working up to now..


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QUOTE(prazole @ Sep 4 2006, 10:50 AM)
ajak u know this is not possible right?
how long it takes to download a demo or a trailer from the marketplace?
probably overnight!

and how long u use to play? sometimes u play 24 hours non-stop..
it is a console afterall.. i dont remember ps1 spoilt this fast..
in fact mine still working up to now..
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ihihihi i know....its ok i think to let ur console on overnight for downloading coz ur GPU n CPU are in lazy mode at that time laugh.gif ...so no extreme heat will be produced by them....what i meant was dont play games overnight coz that just gonna makes ur console go kaboom for those who unfortunatela.. biggrin.gif ..coz ur GPU n CPU work like hell when u play games...
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QUOTE(prazole @ Sep 4 2006, 03:15 AM)
quite saddening..
when most of us here pay our hard earn money to support 360.. and then all these things happen..
its not like any of you were using pirated stuff or anything that will spoilt it.. even some of u bought nyko and take really good care of it like your baby.. but yet it still spoilt..
microsoft is spoilling their own reputation and also trust..
what the hell!
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i got the sympton quite often too but not that serious lar...(touch wood). in my case, whenever the sympton pops out, i just change my battery and magically, i can play my games again. happened to me last nite, and all i did was change the battery in controller. is this normal? by the way, i am using the wireless controller, these 3 blinking red lights occured on the console and not on my controller.

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QUOTE(miniacs @ Sep 8 2006, 11:53 AM)
i got the sympton quite often too but not that serious lar...(touch wood). in my case, whenever the sympton pops out, i just change my battery and magically, i can play my games again. happened to me last nite, and all i did was change the battery in controller. is this normal? by the way, i am using the wireless controller, these 3 blinking red lights occured on the console and not on my controller.
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so bascially when u change ur battery that red lights is gone? if so, dont worry bout that...not a major problem... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(windows_sux @ Sep 8 2006, 11:59 AM)
so bascially when u change ur battery that  red lights is gone? if so, dont worry bout that...not a major problem... icon_rolleyes.gif
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yup. well i hope so.
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QUOTE(miniacs @ Sep 8 2006, 12:06 PM)
yup. well i hope so.
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i gonna sent the item to the shop pray for meee
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i gonna sent the item to the shop pray for meee
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okay we will do that too..if still cannot..let us open it for u... notworthy.gif
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Yeah good luck man..hope you get it fixed

You know its strange the 360 is such a powerful piece of tech and yet people have the three red lights of death. Maybe its the fact that is so powerful it can cause it to act in strange ways....but the thing is three red lights are not that common...okay okay i know there are guys here who will think different..but out of the five million 360s sold most of the problems are from the launch batches. This one usually ranges from the first five months after a console has been launched.

What im trying to say is the first batch of consoles which range from NOvember 05 to April 06. Have the highest number of complaints. Those who bought it later usually are the lucky ones. Ofcourse there are some unlucky ones who buy the console later and still suffer from it.

Which is way whenever a new console comes out its better to wait. Launch consoles will always have problems not just the 360.
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heating problem is a worst problem that microsoft had ever create...for me its a failer for them..i dont mind if the problem because of OS or software problem..but hardware problem... shakehead.gif
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they should have come with liquid cooler instead~!! thumbup.gif
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any idea if the Sporeans gamers with Sg launch units facing similar ratio of breakdowns? mb its a bad batch from a botched production line? yup, i'll also pray for all those unlucky fellas here. i'm one of those who postpone my purchase after reading all those overheating problems.

hope they launch in M'sia soon. warranty FTW!
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Sep 9 2006, 01:08 PM)
they should have come with liquid cooler instead~!! thumbup.gif
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me and bro judge just baru balik from bro metal's house, got a big project. the project's name is "how to gangbang the 360s", jk jk only. very tired to typo, so i try upload the pictures first icon_idea.gif

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Hardisk cooler fan just RM15, shared with judge, so only pay RM7.50, need the kipas only

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good good~ more pictures to see..

now my xbox 360 got problem pulak doh.gif.. not three read light

its the stupid 8007012b download problem,
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brother princeofpersia is ur 360 already dead (red lights) or still good when u done that..? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(windows_sux @ Sep 9 2006, 04:06 PM)
brother princeofpersia is ur 360 already dead (red lights) or still good when u done that..?  notworthy.gif
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still good la, but very scared ramai yang dah kena, better "sediakan payung sebelum hujan". the heatsink memang very-very hot, 30 seconds after u switch on the machine, u can "goreng telur" atas ur 360's heatsink laugh.gif

EDIT: all jobs bro Metal yang buat thumbup.gif . i and bro judge only know how to cabut the faceplate & harddisk laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Sep 9 2006, 04:40 PM)
still good la, but very scared ramai yang dah kena, better "sediakan payung sebelum hujan". the heatsink memang very-very hot, 30 seconds after u switch on the machine, u can "goreng telur" atas ur 360's heatsink  laugh.gif

EDIT: all jobs bro Metal yang buat  thumbup.gif . i and bro judge only know how to cabut the faceplate & harddisk  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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yup true...hot like reactor..lol..in the future, hoping 3rd party will come out better heatsink/watercooler for 360...zalman ke..thermaltake ke...hehehe laugh.gif
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hehehe bro pop show them the pic of my 360 empty steel casing inside! forgot to tell you guys that 360 in the pics is mine lah hehehe...

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ok dude will do aaaaaa... my luck just got luckier just dislocate my shoulder yesterday cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 9 2006, 06:46 PM)
ok dude will do aaaaaa... my luck just got luckier just dislocate my shoulder yesterday  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Those pic looks damn scary ar ... i dun even dare do it. Btw, I oso dunno how to pull out the faceplate ... how ??
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QUOTE(windows_sux @ Sep 9 2006, 06:48 PM)
whoa..shoulder terkeluar?  shocking.gif
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yeh ... slip in the bathroom landed awkwardly...argghh so painfull.... mc for two weeks..... got cuti two weeks btut no xbox to playyy sad.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 9 2006, 09:00 PM)
yeh ... slip in the bathroom landed awkwardly...argghh so painfull.... mc for two weeks..... got cuti two weeks btut no xbox to playyy sad.gif
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ouch! doh.gif sorry to hear that bro...
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aiyoo. jatuh dlm bilik air ka. selamat menyembuhkan diri abang.
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bro kabadi, take a rest please biggrin.gif

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tested it, works great rclxms.gif , smooth and silence

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yesterday too tired lah cannot post anything. suffered 6 hrs of brain tortured session in my class. only before and after my class was fun doing our project smile.gif

just wanna thank bro metal for helping us! so bro djinn when your shop open, any 360 problems just look for our bro metalgrindsolid.

actually we found out 1 thing yesterday during our project, all dvdrom are locked to the motherboard. that means if your dvdrom KO you just cant simply go buy a replacement dvdrom from shops/ebay and replace it. it wont work!

our next project... transparent casing hehehe...
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 10 2006, 09:01 AM)
yesterday too tired lah cannot post anything. suffered 6 hrs of brain tortured session in my class. only before and after my class was fun doing our project smile.gif

just wanna thank bro metal for helping us! so bro djinn when your shop open, any 360 problems just look for our bro metalgrindsolid.

actually we found out 1 thing yesterday during our project, all dvdrom are locked to the motherboard. that means if your dvdrom KO you just cant simply go buy a replacement dvdrom from shops/ebay and replace it. it wont work!

our next project... transparent casing hehehe...
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 10 2006, 09:01 AM)
actually we found out 1 thing yesterday during our project, all dvdrom are locked to the motherboard. that means if your dvdrom KO you just cant simply go buy a replacement dvdrom from shops/ebay and replace it. it wont work!
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all 360 dvd-drive have their own keys in the firmware, and only specific model from specific manufactures can be used on 360. so if you wanna use another same model drive, you have to flash the firmware with the keys extracted from your ori drive.
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brother princeofpersia can u show us where u got power for that fan? thank u notworthy.gif oh and how u stick that fan anyway?

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brother princeofpersia can u show us where u got power for that fan? thank u notworthy.gif oh and how u stick that fan anyway?
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the fan got its power from the 360 motherboard. you need to pm bro metalgrindsolid for full information on it... he knew where to gets power and where to solder it. well just screw the fan onto the heatsink smile.gif
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 10 2006, 02:07 PM)
the fan got its power from the 360 motherboard. you need to pm bro metalgrindsolid for full information on it... he knew where to gets power and where to solder it. well just screw the fan onto the heatsink smile.gif
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thanks bro..will pm him later.. notworthy.gif

oh i have another silly question can we use CPU (pc) heatsink... sweat.gif

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just the phone with the the kedai game man ...apperently the problem of my baby cant be handle by their technician ...now they are sending it to 'specialice" ....i said wuaaaa... ada speacialice kaa ... kalo macam tu manyak cantik laa..( in my heart i pray thank god still can be done something).... he said for that matter your xbox360 will be taking about 2 weeks of holiday in klinik pakar....that the news... hope everything okay or else i will stuck playing suikoden forever.......

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 15 2006, 08:07 PM)
just the phone with the the kedai game man ...apperently the problem of my baby cant be handle by their technician ...now they are sending it to 'specialice" ....i said wuaaaa... ada speacialice kaa ... kalo macam tu manyak cantik laa..( in my heart i pray thank god still can be done something).... he said for that matter your xbox360 will be taking about 2 weeks of holiday in klinik pakar....that the news... hope everything okay or else i will stuck playing suikoden forever.......
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 15 2006, 08:07 PM)
just the phone with the the kedai game man ...apperently the problem of my baby cant be handle by their technician ...now they are sending it to 'specialice" ....i said wuaaaa... ada speacialice kaa ... kalo macam tu manyak cantik laa..( in my heart i pray thank god still can be done something).... he said for that matter your xbox360 will be taking about 2 weeks of holiday in klinik pakar....that the news... hope everything okay or else i will stuck playing suikoden forever.......
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bro, did they told u where that "specialice" located? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 15 2006, 08:07 PM)
just the phone with the the kedai game man ...apperently the problem of my baby cant be handle by their technician ...now they are sending it to 'specialice" ....i said wuaaaa... ada speacialice kaa ... kalo macam tu manyak cantik laa..( in my heart i pray thank god still can be done something).... he said for that matter your xbox360 will be taking about 2 weeks of holiday in klinik pakar....that the news... hope everything okay or else i will stuck playing suikoden forever.......
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you sent to which shop?
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"Welcome Kabadi, im Dr.360, PhD Xbox360 specialist. Oh ... about ut Xbox360 .. she will survive. I have gave it a HD-DVD transplant to keep her getting better everyday .. all u have to do is feed here games as often as possible"

Just kiddin bro. Hope ur Xbox360 baby get back to u safe and playable ASAP.

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dude i sent to the shop which have and indian that can speak chinese name stanley.... i dont know where the specialist is ... if my xbox turn out oka maybe ....maybe there will be hope for the curse of blinking red light ....hey gnome that transplant maybe not bad ..huhuhhhh
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 17 2006, 02:39 AM)
dude i sent to the shop which have and indian that can speak chinese name stanley.... i dont know where the specialist  is ... if my xbox turn out oka maybe ....maybe there will be hope for the curse of blinking red light ....hey gnome that transplant maybe not bad ..huhuhhhh
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hmmm that shop in sg wang... indian that can speak chinese... should be wegamaju's branch.

sorry bro but i got very bad experience with them before. they told me same thing same line... need to send to speacialist!

the story goes like this. last time i tried to install evox in my xbox1. ended up ter-unlock my hdd. xbox1 cannot boot up so sent my xbox1 to this wegamaju shop. that time CONFIRMED my hdd still working! the elder brother told me small matter his technician can fix it. waited week by week by week. called them up then he said his technician cannot fix so send to specialist in PJ after 1 week said sent to speacialist in JB to fix it. he said must wait he also dont know the progress. then called me back have to change modchip... i said fine... waited 1 month then they said my hdd KO so now must change modchip and new hdd. they quoted me a new 80gb hdd with an extra 50% more than normal lowyat price. i told them dont do anything give back my xbox. went and collected my xbox from that stupid shop. my xbox's case all with scratches... asked him why like this that guy just pretend dont know. i screwed him in front of his shop he just buat tak tahu and walked away. no sorry at all from him!

my advise to you if you really sent to wegamaju please collect it back. this shop BS ppl. remember our (bro pop, metal & me) field trip in sg wang asking about that 360 modchip... this shop told us big BS about modded 360!
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oh no.......what have i done ....
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Wow I feel for you bro..

Listen everybody we all care for our 360s so its wise to choose a retailer who you can trust. Me I go to Ampang Park (yeah its old) but the gameshop there is reliable(the one near the jewelry shop) when it comes to fixing your stuff. I broke my xbox some time back I gave the shop owner my xbox to fx it and a week later he returned it to me and ensured me any other probs just come back. There was no problem after that.

Some retailers can cheat you for cash (wizshop for example)


Always ask the retailer what they are gonna do to your 360 before you hand it to them. After that get their ensurance that if they break they buy it.


Other than that cheating retailers are always powerless when it comes to the Consumer Protection Act. Bro if they do anything wrong with your 360 you can sue....only if you wanted to ofcourse. tongue.gif tongue.gif




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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 17 2006, 11:12 AM)
oh no.......what have  i done ....
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just wait and see loh... icon_rolleyes.gif

now my 360 got this 0001 error code lol..PSU meletup/merah hahaha..i think i accidentally tercabut that PSU cable while playing game...very..very sensitive hish..hish shakehead.gif main xbox1 game ajelah...or wait for Wii

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yah i now can only pray....
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QUOTE(windows_sux @ Sep 17 2006, 12:45 PM)
just wait and see loh... icon_rolleyes.gif

now my 360 got this 0001 error code lol..PSU meletup/merah hahaha..i think i accidentally tercabut that PSU cable while playing game...very..very sensitive hish..hish  shakehead.gif main xbox1 game ajelah...or wait for Wii
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bro, u punya PSU meletup? i think the new one will cost u bomb shakehead.gif

bro kabadi, we all here already pray for ur 360 icon_rolleyes.gif
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judge....... if uncle stanley start make nonsense can i bring u along to belasah him mjaybe your daughter will give a flying kick to him make him repair nice2 to my baby.....
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 18 2006, 01:54 AM)
judge....... if uncle stanley start make nonsense can i bring u along to belasah him mjaybe your daughter will give a flying kick to him make him repair nice2 to my baby.....
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yeah, u must bring judge, he's taiko at Bandar Seri Putra and Bangi area flex.gif

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Jugde's new picture rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 18 2006, 01:54 AM)
judge....... if uncle stanley start make nonsense can i bring u along to belasah him mjaybe your daughter will give a flying kick to him make him repair nice2 to my baby.....
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If u r going to the shop again Kabadi .. could I tag along, only if u r going between this tue-sun. Please LMK.
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 18 2006, 01:54 AM)
judge....... if uncle stanley start make nonsense can i bring u along to belasah him mjaybe your daughter will give a flying kick to him make him repair nice2 to my baby.....
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Sep 18 2006, 07:57 AM)
yeah, u must bring judge, he's taiko at Bandar Seri Putra and Bangi area  flex.gif

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Jugde's new picture  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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that wegamaju shop is untouchable lah! they are very big in sg wang and from my previous calculation long time ago they got 4 shops. now should be more... most of the games shop in sg wang got "DARK connection" so cannot simply cari gaduh with them.

well just pray lah maybe got miracle later. just make sure dont let them drag you too long or drag you again and again and again. if this happen then my advise to you is collect your 360 immediately.

bro pop, me only taiko when comes to table talk with gals in bangi and bdr seri putra lah hehehe...
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the indian shop already change to other location already lo` it looks a lot of bigger ...
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Sep 18 2006, 08:07 AM)
If u r going to the shop again Kabadi .. could I tag along, only if u r going between this tue-sun. Please LMK.
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oh no im dealing with MAFIA ... djin help mee..... sure dude if could i will bring tons of xbox live soldier huhuhuhuhuh smile.gif pj assemble the troops.... where is the bocp when u need them icon_question.gif....boch ?????

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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Sep 17 2006, 10:39 PM)
bro, u punya PSU meletup? i think the new one will cost u bomb  shakehead.gif

bro kabadi, we all here already pray for ur 360  icon_rolleyes.gif
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hahah yeah...yellow color once i push on button red color for couple of sec then back to yellow color..check code..hehehe power problem...hehehe.. laugh.gif ..i love microsoft.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(windows_sux @ Sep 18 2006, 02:56 PM)
hahah yeah...yellow color once i push on button red color for couple of sec then back to yellow color..check code..hehehe power problem...hehehe.. laugh.gif ..i love microsoft.. laugh.gif
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look for bro metalgrindsolid. he can modify pc power supply for 360. in fact he's using pc power supply for his 360.
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 18 2006, 03:05 PM)
look for bro metalgrindsolid. he can modify pc power supply for 360. in fact he's using pc power supply for his 360.
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whoa really... rclxms.gif thanks bro..
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QUOTE(windows_sux @ Sep 18 2006, 04:25 PM)
whoa really... rclxms.gif  thanks bro..
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a new power brick will easily cost you rm300 lah! just buy a new pc power supply wont cost you that much then plus together with metalgrindsolid's labour cost also still cheaper hehehe... you just pm him and nego or introduce a cun awek to him lah. he's still single smile.gif
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 18 2006, 04:31 PM)
a new power brick will easily cost you rm300 lah! just buy a new pc power supply wont cost you that much then plus together with metalgrindsolid's labour cost also still cheaper hehehe... you just pm him and nego or introduce a cun awek to him lah. he's still single smile.gif
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bro windows, if u can introduce awek cun to me, i also can settle the problem laugh.gif , prefer asian gals drool.gif
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metalgrindsolid can also install kipas for me ka? I do not have the guts to open the 360 myself la. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(necromanser @ Sep 18 2006, 07:30 PM)
metalgrindsolid can also install kipas for me ka? I do not have the guts to open the 360 myself la. biggrin.gif
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jom kita buat gathering pasang kipas seMalaysia rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Sep 18 2006, 07:41 PM)
jom kita buat gathering pasang kipas seMalaysia  rclxms.gif
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tunggu saya la........... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 18 2006, 07:45 PM)
tunggu saya la........... sad.gif
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Baik. Kami menunggu kepulangan 360 tuan. Semoga dia sihat dan kicking!!!
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Pasang kipas in my 360 ... im crazy but not that crazy. I already got 2 kipas blowing the back on my 360 .. cupuk lah tu.
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Sep 18 2006, 10:12 PM)
Pasang kipas in my 360 ... im crazy but not that crazy. I already got 2 kipas blowing the back on my 360 .. cupuk lah tu.
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bro xeno, not cupuk but cukup laugh.gif


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ala. pasang kipas dekat heatsink le. to kurangkan 3 ROL. itu aje!!
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believe me if u could do something before it happen better do it dude ....because if it happen only tears will come from your sad eyes
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 18 2006, 04:31 PM)
a new power brick will easily cost you rm300 lah! just buy a new pc power supply wont cost you that much then plus together with metalgrindsolid's labour cost also still cheaper hehehe... you just pm him and nego or introduce a cun awek to him lah. he's still single smile.gif
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Yes, that's right. No need to pay me. Just introduce awek cun is enough laugh.gif.

Bro Judge, your PS2 belum 'buka baju' lagi...sorry.
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you meta grind i got some awek cun for ya but the thing is their dont have some sort of legitimate certificate... can u consider that huhuhuhuhhhh..gurau saja dude do you do everything u can repair ps2???xbox???
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 19 2006, 01:29 AM)
you meta grind i got some awek cun for ya but the thing is their dont have some sort of legitimate certificate... can u consider that huhuhuhuhhhh..gurau saja dude do you do everything u can repair ps2???xbox???
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TV PLASMA, DLP, LCD, CSI semua pun dia boleh repair laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Sep 19 2006, 07:20 AM)
TV PLASMA, DLP, LCD, CSI semua pun dia boleh repair  laugh.gif
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CSI... hehehe...

let me add some also lah... ATM, UiTM, UPM, UKM, UTM, USM... even PDRM also boleh... hehehe...

bro metal can fix ps2 and xbox also. my faulty ps2 is with him now.
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dude the wegamaju shop just phone me ........ sigh... they said software sudah lari alahaaii..... they said no spare part ...will have to wait for a long time before have ...what u think a judge wheter i take my xbox360 or just leave it there for their exploit... or just give bro metal
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 19 2006, 04:02 PM)
dude the wegamaju shop just phone me ........ sigh... they said software sudah lari alahaaii..... they said no spare part ...will have to wait for a long time before have ...what u think a judge wheter i take my xbox360 or just leave it there for their exploit... or just give bro metal
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my personal opinion take it back. since when software sudah lari can cost that 3 red lights? try get some other opinions too because if you asked me i sure hentam2 that wegamaju shop.

try pm bro metalgrindsolid ask for his opinion.

* if you wanna take back your 360 make sure everything complete inside. last time their technician took my modchip!
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yah i think i will take back the xbox maybe tomolo .....okay will do taht
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 19 2006, 04:02 PM)
dude the wegamaju shop just phone me ........ sigh... they said software sudah lari alahaaii..... they said no spare part ...will have to wait for a long time before have ...what u think a judge wheter i take my xbox360 or just leave it there for their exploit... or just give bro metal
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software sudah lari? pergi mana? i think u should take back also la bro.. they'll give u all sorts of excuses, software lari la.. software kaput la.. led hijau takda menyala, cuma merah saja la.. doh.gif prolly ask bro metal.. ask the experts.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 19 2006, 04:02 PM)
dude the wegamaju shop just phone me ........ sigh... they said software sudah lari alahaaii..... they said no spare part ...will have to wait for a long time before have ...what u think a judge wheter i take my xbox360 or just leave it there for their exploit... or just give bro metal
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how the hell the software can lari? shakehead.gif
first time i heard such story, the shop sounds full of BS.

and spare part for software? when did software need spare part?

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 10 2006, 10:42 AM)
all 360 dvd-drive have their own keys in the firmware, and only specific model from specific manufactures can be used on 360. so if you wanna use another same model drive, you have to flash the firmware with the keys extracted from your ori drive.
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awak telah memusnahkan impian saya untuk memulih kan DVD-rom I.....

die lah die lah... one of my xbox now dead.. cuz my hand gatal on trying to 'flash' it...

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QUOTE(chinsc @ Sep 19 2006, 06:00 PM)
awak telah memusnahkan impian saya untuk memulih kan DVD-rom I.....

die lah die lah... one of my xbox now dead.. cuz my hand gatal on trying to 'flash' it...

ahem...
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you are serious or joking?
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 19 2006, 06:15 PM)
you are serious or joking?
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im not joking lah bro judge~~ cry.gif

my sammy drive die... cuz lost the backup firmware.

now luckily still have one original set~
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QUOTE(chinsc @ Sep 19 2006, 09:19 PM)
im not joking lah bro judge~~  cry.gif

my sammy drive die... cuz lost the backup firmware.

now luckily still have one original set~
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without the original firware your 360 cannot do anything already lah
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 19 2006, 09:50 PM)
without the original firware your 360 cannot do anything already lah
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yah loh...

but i found out ebay got sale the flash ic, same with the samsung drive one... donno can be replace it or not.

and also, with the mod chip install, can it by pass this stupid 'key'???

aiyah... out of topic already... mod don ban me..
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QUOTE(chinsc @ Sep 19 2006, 10:09 PM)
yah loh...

but i found out ebay got sale the flash ic, same with the samsung drive one... donno can be replace it or not.

and also, with the mod chip install, can it by pass this stupid 'key'???

aiyah... out of topic already... mod don ban me..
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mana ada modchip lagi lah... now only flash firmware. well worse come to worst just keep that 360 till got modchip lah and fix it then make your 360 as media center... consider as future investment smile.gif
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no lar i dont want it just sit there do nothing ... mane stringfellow melancong kaa?? does andy tnl got good technician?? can i just send it there
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QUOTE(chinsc @ Sep 19 2006, 10:09 PM)
yah loh...

but i found out ebay got sale the flash ic, same with the samsung drive one... donno can be replace it or not.

and also, with the mod chip install, can it by pass this stupid 'key'???

aiyah... out of topic already... mod don ban me..
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the thing is, the key in the dvd firmware are also stored in the CPU/dashboard. it will validate if the key is same or not before it load any games from the drive.

without a backup of your ori firmware, your dvd drive is screwed. maybe if hacker manage to create a de-crypted software then you can extract the keys, but with encryption that take equivalent of 100 years of computing to break it, i don't think it will happen.

or you can somehow damage the dvd drive then send it back to MS and say it's spoiled? tongue.gif
but how about the warranty sticker?
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 20 2006, 02:04 AM)
the thing is, the key in the dvd firmware are also stored in the CPU/dashboard. it will validate if the key is same or not before it load any games from the drive.

without a backup of your ori firmware, your dvd drive is screwed. maybe if hacker manage to create a de-crypted software then you can extract the keys, but with encryption that take equivalent of 100 years of computing to break it, i don't think it will happen.

or you can somehow damage the dvd drive then send it back to MS and say it's spoiled? tongue.gif
but how about the warranty sticker?
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i think chinsc's 360 still not open yet and didnt void the warranty sticker yet. so far only 3 crazy person opened their healthy good working coniditon 360 smile.gif

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didn't open the console cannot flash the firmware. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 20 2006, 08:44 AM)
didn't open the console cannot flash the firmware. tongue.gif
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So bro what's gonna happen now to you 360. Is it kaput or there's a chance it will pull through?


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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 20 2006, 07:58 AM)
i think chinsc's 360 still not open yet and didnt void the warranty sticker yet. so far only 3 crazy person opened their healthy good working coniditon 360 smile.gif
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he he... now is 4 ppl included me....


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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 20 2006, 02:04 AM)
the thing is, the key in the dvd firmware are also stored in the CPU/dashboard. it will validate if the key is same or not before it load any games from the drive.

without a backup of your ori firmware, your dvd drive is screwed. maybe if hacker manage to create a de-crypted software then you can extract the keys, but with encryption that take equivalent of 100 years of computing to break it, i don't think it will happen.

or you can somehow damage the dvd drive then send it back to MS and say it's spoiled? tongue.gif
but how about the warranty sticker?
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i found out there is some website at US selling the refurbished unit of samsung T943 and LG xbox360 DVD-rom....

i wonder how can this be... cuz the firmware got lock by the security key or not..

strange... how does it work?
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oi, u opened the 360 ar??wah lau eh
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QUOTE(xboxnerd @ Sep 20 2006, 10:22 PM)
oi, u opened the 360 ar??wah lau eh
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oi~~~ it's very easy to open up ur xbox360... it's too easy..
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mai gu liu, buy saint row also cannot mer?
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QUOTE(xboxnerd @ Sep 20 2006, 10:32 PM)
mai gu liu, buy saint row also cannot mer?
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nyai tiao~~

too bad my copy been borrow by my friend. else can online to have some fun with u.

how's there? break with ur GF already?

ha ha ha~

(joke la~ notworthy.gif )
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no lar, still with my gf, she is doing good,chin, come over here lar, can see real 500++hp 5500cc corvette..hahaha
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QUOTE(xboxnerd @ Sep 20 2006, 10:36 PM)
no lar, still with my gf, she is doing good,chin, come over here lar, can see real 500++hp 5500cc corvette..hahaha
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no $~ safe $ for PS3~

even if i go there, the corvette is not my target...

ill only go to the beach..... wub.gif
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talk to you later, i need to go to class
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u no need to go to the beach, come to my university enough liaw
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QUOTE(chinsc @ Sep 20 2006, 10:01 PM)
i found out there is some website at US selling the refurbished unit of samsung T943 and LG xbox360 DVD-rom....

i wonder how can this be... cuz the firmware got lock by the security key or not..

strange... how does it work?
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bro chinsc... we already conducted an experiment that day. bro metal installed my dvdrom into bro pop's 360 and it wont read any games. we tried few games all same refused to read lah.

you buy those refurbished dvdrom from ebay also no use lah. you must have the original firmware.
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http://www.gamersreports.com/news/3938/


is this true????
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 22 2006, 01:20 AM)
hope it's true... well msoft should do it lah because so many 360 gen1 KO all of a sudden. not our fault at all it was hardware failure. well on other side, not sure lah for some ppl like me that already opened up my 360 and cut off the msoft warranty sticker... hmmm
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ALohaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

wassup guys.....hurmm seems like another 2-3 of our members faced the red lights thingy sad.gif sad.gif ...sorry to hear that....just settled down now..bought myself the XCM high speed cooler icon_rolleyes.gif ..will let u guys know the results...bro kabadi n windows sori tak dpt nak gather hari tu..too busy settling matters before goin back...to others..dont forget to 'generate money' for upcoming games...n of course Wii...already had it preordered for 179.99 pounds...cheaper than 360 premium but same as 360 core...yeay rclxm9.gif

bro judge just pray that kipas on d heatsink will help a lot.....hopefully it will.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Sep 22 2006, 08:35 AM)
ALohaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

wassup guys.....hurmm seems like another 2-3 of our members faced the red lights thingy sad.gif  sad.gif ...sorry to hear that....just settled down now..bought myself the XCM high speed cooler icon_rolleyes.gif ..will let u guys know the results...bro kabadi n windows sori tak dpt nak gather hari tu..too busy settling matters before goin back...to others..dont forget to 'generate money' for upcoming games...n of course Wii...already had it preordered for 179.99 pounds...cheaper than 360 premium but same as 360 core...yeay rclxm9.gif

bro judge just pray that kipas on d heatsink will help a lot.....hopefully it will.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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hoho, our brother is back rclxms.gif . bro ajak, if u have time, please help me to find that thing ok icon_idea.gif . anything PM la biggrin.gif
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Ok guys.....mr postman delivered this cute small little package downstairs n i picked it up full of excitement..cant wait to install this XCM high speed cooler into my 360....

So the work begins....

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Opened the cute colourful box and took out all the stuffs in there...just to check everything present as described...

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Everthing seems to be present...so lets tear apart my 360 virginity... tongue.gif

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10 mins...finished ripping of my 360 skirt....looking at the ugly black fan(but still dah byk berjasa to me) hehe...

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20 mins...finished installing the new XCM High Cooler Fan....

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how it looks like when attached with the external LCD display speed controller...

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Again...looks pretty cool when switched on....

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This was the temperature after 2 minutes switched on and the RPM of the fan...and in Dashboard mode

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This was after inserting GRAW...n let it play the intro video...

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When playing games the MAX temperature GPU will go is up to 60 degrees
CPU temp stays fluctuating around 43-46 degrees

And Voilla there u go.....absolutely far more better than stupid nyko...the fan is so strong u can feel the air blows out at almost every ventilation holes around d 360...

U can set it up manually or automatically...just set how fast u want the fan to blow or just let it adjust automatically...superb...

Totally recommended......bought for 32 pounds including shipping from divineo.co.uk..

lastly..njoy gaming guys!!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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^how much is that thing?

nvm just saw the price

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bro ajak, that lcd samsung ke yang u cakap 600++pound? shocking.gif shakehead.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Sep 22 2006, 07:19 PM)
bro ajak, that lcd samsung ke yang u cakap 600++pound?  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif  laugh.gif
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ha ah.... tongue.gif ....tapi bro pop..i recommend u to buy the XCM fan..coupled with ur ps2 kipas...ur 360 will be sejuk cam ice...hehe
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Sep 22 2006, 07:23 PM)
ha ah.... tongue.gif ....tapi bro pop..i recommend u to buy the XCM fan..coupled with ur ps2 kipas...ur 360 will be sejuk cam ice...hehe
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yup, waiting for my bonus la next month, btw if the machine sejuk like ice, nanti kena beli selimut 360 pulak laugh.gif laugh.gif
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bro ajak... does the 2 fan suck air out from the case? or does it suck air into the case ?
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QUOTE(calvin @ Sep 22 2006, 07:31 PM)
bro ajak... does the 2 fan suck air out from the case? or does it suck air into the case ?
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bro calvin...it sucks out air from the 360..therefore u can feel d cold air being sucked in from the ventilation holes and the hot air came out at the back....I played GRAW just now..the temp. reached 60 degrees...when i stopped playing n back to the dashboard..the temperature went down to 55 degrees in 1 mins....at thats the normal operating temperature for GPU while CPU temp remains the same....

oh yeah forgot to mention that the fans come with blue LED...just noticed...so a transparent case would make ur 360 looks pretty wicked!!!....bro judge...tempting?? drool.gif drool.gif hehe
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ooo..thats nice...how much did u bought it for ? and how is the noise level compared to the default fans and the nyko intercooler ? smile.gif
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abang ajak. boleh tolong bikin untuk saya tak. Saya kurang berani la nak buka Xbox 360 saya. Telor Takde. Boleh tak?
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 22 2006, 07:51 AM)
hope it's true... well msoft should do it lah because so many 360 gen1 KO all of a sudden. not our fault at all it was hardware failure. well on other side, not sure lah for some ppl like me that already opened up my 360 and cut off the msoft warranty sticker... hmmm
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I made blind assumption ni. SInce dia kata all Consoles prior to 2006. Ada ke sesapa yg ada console Tahun 2006 yg kena 3 Red ROL? Mungkin MS sudah adjust sikit unutk 2006 nye konsol.
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QUOTE(calvin @ Sep 22 2006, 08:34 PM)
ooo..thats nice...how much did u bought it for ? and how is the noise level compared to the default fans and the nyko intercooler ? smile.gif
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hurmm i guess its slightly quieter than nyko...but depends much on the rpm really....the more hotter it gets the more it will spin n the more noise it will make as u all already know....but for me its ok though...there are few fans on sale as well that have been claimed to be :

Producer: Talismoon

Reincarnation. An unusual philosophy if you are developing new products. But Talismoon knows what OEM fans want when they get reincarnated - to be better performing and better looking. The new Talismoon Whisper Xbox 360 Replacement Fan moves 58% more air than the original, yet is 7% quieter. And the stellar blue lights are enough to seduce any Xbox 360 into doing something it definitely won't regret in the morning. Let your Xbox 360 hear the secrets of a new Whisper.

Cooling Stuffs

check em out...

but i do really hope this investment will prolong my 360 life..if not then its just a waste of money n time...i'll make a note of today's date n we'll c how it goes...
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QUOTE(necromanser @ Sep 22 2006, 09:11 PM)
abang ajak. boleh tolong bikin untuk saya tak. Saya kurang berani la nak buka Xbox 360 saya. Telor Takde. Boleh tak?
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buleh saja...tapi gue 11000km away maa....wishh i can help....jgn takut..nothing will happen coz tak involved bukak d inner parts pon n usik2 d sensitive parts...just attach d kipas n the sensor..thats all.... flex.gif ...bro windows sux can open..bro metal....goodspeed...n ramai lg also can oledi open d console...ask for their help... biggrin.gif ..bro pop n bro judge olso have experienced the naked truth laugh.gif laugh.gif ...they will be able to open olso kan??
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Sep 22 2006, 09:21 PM)
buleh saja...tapi gue 11000km away maa....wishh i can help....jgn takut..nothing will happen coz tak involved bukak d inner parts pon n usik2 d sensitive parts...just attach d kipas n the sensor..thats all.... flex.gif ...bro windows sux can open..bro metal....goodspeed...n ramai lg also can oledi open d console...ask for their help... biggrin.gif ..bro pop n bro judge olso have experienced the naked truth  laugh.gif  laugh.gif ...they will be able to open olso kan??
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yup no problem to open the machine, but me and bro judge only expert how to cabut the harddisk and faceplate, other thing u can cabut by yourself tongue.gif

bro necro, come to kajang la, bro metal can tolong pasang that kipas
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Sep 22 2006, 09:44 PM)
yup no problem to open the machine, but me and bro judge only expert how to cabut the harddisk and faceplate, other thing u can cabut by yourself  tongue.gif

bro necro, come to kajang la, bro metal can tolong pasang that kipas
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lol. ajak ada di UK ka. ceh. Sungguh memalukan. hahahahha. igtkan dia ada di Malaysia. cukup memalukan.
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bonus hari raya.. beli xbox 360 punya stuff. heheheh. org pergi raya kita main xbox 360. hahahha. ini tahun, takmo balik kampong. main game saja. biggrin.gif
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Excerpt from this following link>>> http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2006/09/m...soft_dismi.html

Here's Microsoft's statement:

As part of our standard and ongoing process of analyzing repair data, we recently noticed a higher than usual number of units coming in for repair. Upon further investigation, it was further discovered that the bulk of the units were isolated to a group that was part of the initial manufacturing run of the console. Returns for repair are coming in for a variety reasons and it's a higher rate than we are satisfied with. We've made the decision to comp repairs for consoles manufactured before January 1, 2006, and provide refunds to the small group of customers who have already paid for repairs.

"Selamat Berpuasa"
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QUOTE(necromanser @ Sep 22 2006, 10:44 PM)
bonus hari raya.. beli xbox 360 punya stuff. heheheh. org pergi raya kita main xbox 360. hahahha. ini tahun, takmo balik kampong. main game saja. biggrin.gif
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betul tu bro, silap silap when people go to sembahyang raya, we syok playing TDU, splinter cell and many more laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 19 2006, 10:54 PM)
no lar i dont want it just sit there do nothing ... mane stringfellow melancong kaa?? does andy tnl got good technician?? can i just send it there
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Yup baru balik CDG, bro. Specifically Marnee la Vallee Chessy, or more well known as Disneyland Paris. Next trip end of this year, covering Disneyland LA/Anaheim, Disney California Adventure, Universal Studios Hollywood, San Diego Zoo and SeaWorld San Diego, all for USD199.00 including transportation to USH and the two Disney parks. Cant wait!
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 24 2006, 12:34 AM)
Yup baru balik CDG, bro. Specifically Marnee la Vallee Chessy, or more well known as Disneyland Paris. Next trip end of this year, covering Disneyland LA/Anaheim, Disney California Adventure, Universal Studios Hollywood, San Diego Zoo and SeaWorld San Diego, all for USD199.00 including transportation to USH and the two Disney parks. Cant wait!
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dah jumpe itu holy grail...aka sang greal..aka mary magdalene ???

bytway dude i think i want to send to microsoft la .... i will be help by terra ...any body is this a good idea??? sad.gif it will probably cause a bom but it will surely help a lot i think ... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 24 2006, 02:53 AM)
dah jumpe itu holy grail...aka sang greal..aka mary magdalene ???

bytway dude i think i want to send to microsoft la .... i will be help by terra ...any body is this a good idea??? sad.gif  it will probably cause a bom but it will surely help a lot i think ... sad.gif
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thats the only safest way if MS HK agrees to deal with it smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Sep 24 2006, 02:53 AM)
dah jumpe itu holy grail...aka sang greal..aka mary magdalene ???

bytway dude i think i want to send to microsoft la .... i will be help by terra ...any body is this a good idea??? sad.gif  it will probably cause a bom but it will surely help a lot i think ... sad.gif
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Make sure the Microsoft's warranty sticker still intact. And make sure your Xbox 360 manufactured before January 1 because here comes the good news.

Microsoft is now offering extended warranties to Xbox 360 owners whose units were manufactured before January 1, 2006, therefore extending the warranty from 90 days to a full year. This service will be considered as an "out of warranty repair" and will be free of charge rclxms.gif . Available worldwide.




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guys, i've made up my mind to get the XCM high speed air cooler.

checked the price in divineo UK website but its more expensive than the price in divineo China. lik-sang also now selling but its more expensive by USD10 !!. any other good website that got this product? smile.gif
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Microsoft is now offering extended warranties to Xbox 360 owners whose units were manufactured before January 1, 2006, therefore extending the warranty from 90 days to a full year. This service will be considered as an "out of warranty repair" and will be free of charge rclxms.gif .  Available worldwide.
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Hmm.. please note that worldwide here means whereever the Xbox 360 is OFFICIALY sold.. also know as NOT APPLICABLE IN MALAYSIA hahahahahah...

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Well guys, my house went some renovations and i forgot to to take my 360 with me. As a result i now have the three red lights. I'm hoping to get it fixed though in the next two weeks. Wish me luck!!
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Received the package today, installed already. when full speed, the noise is like the Vantec Tornado biggrin.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Hitman190 @ Oct 5 2006, 04:40 PM)
Well guys, my house went some renovations and i forgot to to take my 360 with me. As a result i now have the three red lights. I'm hoping to get it fixed though in the next two weeks. Wish me luck!!
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like that also can kena... got warranty?
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This is an update on my 3 red lights problem. I started having the problem about 4-5 months ago. Mine was an early Japanese import (manufactured 12/05). I open up the xbox and cleaned out the thermal paste junk and got it working temporarily. Then it went kaput again. I then used the heat gun method but the fix never lasted more than a day. I was using a high end heat gun (borrowed SATA, I think similar to the Bosch). It had 3 settings on it. I always used setting 1 & 2. After more than 15 attempts to zap it, I decided to buy my own heat gun. Got a cheap one from Tesco with 2 heat settings (330C & 510 C), I finally got it working for almost 2 weeks now!!!

I think previously I didn't have the heat gun hot enough to melt the solder properly. With this new heatgun, the 510C settings seems to be the right temp....

So, for those who tried the heat gun method and didnt get it to work for long, look at increasing the heat... But be careful not to fry any components icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(alkt @ Oct 10 2006, 01:07 AM)
Received the package today, installed already. when full speed, the noise is like the Vantec Tornado biggrin.gif thumbup.gif
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got any photos?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alkt @ Oct 11 2006, 03:11 PM)
will post once i get back home but after installed nia. it's pretty easy to open the xbox360 though. i will need to open mine again due to the sensor for the CPU not properly placed smile.gif
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aih alkt.....got that XCM oledi?? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif ...nice innit??but when its hot....phew the roaring sounds makes me a bit scared tho...but its a pretty wicked add on to ur 360...got blue led summore.... drool.gif
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QUOTE(ajak25 @ Oct 15 2006, 04:41 AM)
aih alkt.....got that XCM oledi?? rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif ...nice innit??but when its hot....phew the roaring sounds makes me a bit scared tho...but its a pretty wicked add on to ur 360...got blue led summore.... drool.gif
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I had my scare too yesterday.. laugh.gif

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just unplugged everything and lift up the harddisk..

say some magical words, wave it around and put everything back and thank God its Ok now... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Merdeka @ Oct 15 2006, 07:39 AM)
I had my scare too yesterday.. laugh.gif

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just unplugged everything and lift up the harddisk..

say some magical words, wave it around and put everything back and thank God its Ok now... tongue.gif
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haha.. same here tongue.gif i had a carnival lights goin on yesterday.. red, green, red, green... in a circle..

the cause: terlanggar my electrical plug.. kinda think of it.. my 360 was telling me: im having a headache rclxub.gif haha... doh.gif
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QUOTE(huss_wuss @ Oct 15 2006, 07:46 AM)
haha.. same here tongue.gif i had a carnival lights goin on yesterday.. red, green, red, green... in a circle..

the cause: terlanggar my electrical plug.. kinda think of it.. my 360 was telling me: im having a headache rclxub.gif  haha... doh.gif
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report another 3ROD victim since yesterday.
am looking for any DIY solution on net but the international link are all down.
this is really not good~
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QUOTE(sentlon @ Dec 29 2006, 12:39 AM)
report another 3ROD victim since yesterday.
am looking for any DIY solution on net but the international link are all down.
this is really not good~
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sorry bro consider you are out of luck already if you kena 3ROD. if yours is unmodded asian set then send it back to msoft singapore for warranty. but if yours is modded then your chance is very slim already.

you can try pm metalgrindsolid but according to him success rates is 50-50. he repaired few ok till now but another few cannot and kena again 3ROD.
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Dec 29 2006, 12:46 AM)
sorry bro consider you are out of luck already if you kena 3ROD. if yours is unmodded asian set then send it back to msoft singapore for warranty. but if yours is modded then your chance is very slim already.

you can try pm metalgrindsolid but according to him success rates is 50-50. he repaired few ok till now but another few cannot and kena again 3ROD.
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received this in my yahoomail early this morning... might be useful for arguments with msoft for those unmodded 360 that kena 3ROD.

Xbox 360(tm) Warranty Announcement

Effective December 22, 2006, the Xbox 360 console warranty has been extended to one year from the date of purchase. The extended warranty applies to new customers and existing Xbox 360 owners.

If you experience hardware issues with your Xbox 360 console within one year of purchase, your console will be repaired at no cost*. For those who already paid for repairs within their first year of ownership you can expect reimbursement checks for the amount of the console hardware repair in approximately 10 weeks. These will be automatically distributed. You do not need to contact Microsoft(R).

To find out more information on the Xbox 360 warranty change, please visit: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support. Should you have questions regarding this policy change or experience any hardware issues, you can also visit: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/contact/ or call 1-800-4-MY-XBOX and speak with an agent.

Now, that's a holiday gift, indeed. Play with confidence and enjoy the best of next generation gaming. Celebrate the holiday season with a catalog of over 160 high-definition games, the freedom of wireless accessories, and the online entertainment you can experience with your friends on Xbox Live(R).

Remember to register your Xbox 360 console and sign up for more great information from Xbox(R) at My Xbox!

Spread the holiday cheer and let your friends know about this important announcement.

* (standard warranty exclusions still apply)


* bro silencer, aku nak jadi mcm engkau lah... tak payah tidur... kerja jadi boss... staff semua cun gals!!!
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erm...that one i think for US consoles rite...?....previously they only have like 90 days....

...so..rite now they are matching european and asian warranty T & C....thats what US people argue abt the warranty......
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Try to PM bro metalgrindsolid for help. If it is a GPU problem that causes the 3 ROD, then I'm afraid you're out of luck.
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well sometimes the 3ROD can be cause by the power brick too~. so .. test a power brick before you opening (voiding) your microsoft warranty.
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my xbox 360 dashboard sumtimes stuck or freeze especially when i wanna check the friendlist..so i have to turn off back when its stuck..is this the symptom of 3ROD?
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QUOTE(solidsnake_84 @ Dec 31 2006, 01:53 PM)
my xbox 360 dashboard sumtimes stuck or freeze especially when i wanna check the friendlist..so i have to turn off back when its stuck..is this the symptom of 3ROD?
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Does it occur only when u check friendlist? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(solidsnake_84 @ Dec 31 2006, 01:53 PM)
my xbox 360 dashboard sumtimes stuck or freeze especially when i wanna check the friendlist..so i have to turn off back when its stuck..is this the symptom of 3ROD?
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Nah....it's just the 360 hanging because of slow connection to LIVE, trying to load your friend's gamerpics....

Happens to me all the time, sometimes after a few seconds it unhangs, sometimes it just continues to hang. Especially now with the Internet disruptions, it happens more often...
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QUOTE(solidsnake_84 @ Dec 31 2006, 01:53 PM)
my xbox 360 dashboard sumtimes stuck or freeze especially when i wanna check the friendlist..so i have to turn off back when its stuck..is this the symptom of 3ROD?
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i hope not....coz i had that this past 2/3 days.......i think its because the connection not that stable...
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Thinking to get Xbox360 tomolo, but i read some post from this thread, Unmod n mod also got this 3ROD problem.... so b4 i get it, how to avoid this problem... get what kind of version xbox360?
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 1 2007, 12:11 AM)
Thinking to get Xbox360 tomolo, but i read some post from this thread, Unmod n mod also got this 3ROD problem....  so b4 i get it, how to avoid this problem... get what kind of version xbox360?
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Get it from Gamers Hideout...1 year free of headache....anything happen...DJinn ill ship it to singapore...by the way..pls get unmodded 1....so have troublefree to play in lives..happy new year to u too...

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 1 2007, 12:11 AM)
Thinking to get Xbox360 tomolo, but i read some post from this thread, Unmod n mod also got this 3ROD problem....  so b4 i get it, how to avoid this problem... get what kind of version xbox360?
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what bro silencer said is true... please get unmodded 360 because you will never know when that 3ROD will strikes. if you want more kisah benar please pm bro metalgrindsolid... he received many modded 360 for repair due to the 3ROD... according to him... it's hardware failure... some lucky ones their 360 ok after he cleaned up the mess inside but some unlucky ones gone for good... totally gone!

so conclusion... only gets the asian version... unmodded asian version so that you are entitled for the 12 months warranty period.

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It seems Xbox360 are quite a fragile system.
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 1 2007, 01:19 AM)
It seems Xbox360 are quite a fragile system.
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no choice at all...
but ppl that interested buying 360 should just buy the asian set only... really pity those ppl that bought their socalled modded 360 from sg wangs shops and ended with 3ROD...
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Jan 1 2007, 01:23 AM)
no choice at all...
but ppl that interested buying 360 should just buy the asian set only... really pity those ppl that bought their socalled modded 360 from sg wangs shops and ended with 3ROD...
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I got ask alor star game shop, the shop owner tell me that 3ROD is bcoz of hacker hack ur system when u r using Pxrxx version to play game online........ it is true?
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 1 2007, 06:55 AM)
I got ask alor star game shop, the shop owner tell me that 3ROD is bcoz of hacker hack ur system when u r using Pxrxx version to play game online........ it is true?
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If that would make you support original games, then yes, its true
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 1 2007, 07:55 AM)
I got ask alor star game shop, the shop owner tell me that 3ROD is bcoz of hacker hack ur system when u r using Pxrxx version to play game online........ it is true?
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Hahahaha...the shop owner is a funny guy i guess...anyway, support ORI!!!

Well...from my experience....few of my frens encounter the 3ROD n there goes their console...some of them send bak HK or SG for warranty(till now not yet bak)...another fella straight buy a new unit.....tis happens on both Asia/Jap version... my jap console can b consider lucky coz im from the 1st batch...so far onli the power brick burn...tat cost me RM200 for a 2nd hand unit....sigh...
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 1 2007, 06:55 AM)
I got ask alor star game shop, the shop owner tell me that 3ROD is bcoz of hacker hack ur system when u r using Pxrxx version to play game online........ it is true?
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no such thing lah! 3ROD is hardware failure...
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Jan 1 2007, 09:00 AM)
no such thing lah! 3ROD is hardware failure...
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it also cuase by the "fall updates" as well.. guess that staff thought is a "virus" or something tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jan 1 2007, 07:02 AM)
If that would make you support original games, then yes, its true
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I m not decide about to get Mod or unmod, i m just wanna know why this "3rod" happen, it is bcoz of hardware or software... can avoid from this or not..... since unmod also got this problem..... sweat.gif .. i m confuse now... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 1 2007, 10:17 AM)
I m not decide about to get Mod or unmod, i m just wanna know why this "3rod" happen, it is hardware or software only... can avoid from this or not.....  since unmod also got this problem.....  sweat.gif .. i m confuse now...  rclxub.gif
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no need to get confuse anyway~.

mostly 3 rings of death are mostly cause by hardware failure..
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jan 1 2007, 10:19 AM)
no need to get confuse anyway~.

mostly 3 rings of death are mostly cause by hardware failure..
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 1 2007, 10:21 AM)
So... it is heat problem?
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yup. heat is the main factor.

but there is other hardware failure as well.. power brrick,, thermal got "melted"
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trust us here... better go for the 360 comes with 12 months warranty from msoft singapore... not shops warranty ok!
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jan 1 2007, 10:24 AM)
yup. heat is the main factor.

but there is other hardware failure as well.. power brrick,, thermal got "melted"
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Ic... thx... so thats still no way to avoid it... right? Depend the luck again ??
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 1 2007, 10:27 AM)
Ic...  thx...  so thats still no way to avoid it... right? Depend the luck again ??
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jan 1 2007, 10:30 AM)
yup. random luck my fren.
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Jan 1 2007, 10:27 AM)
trust us here... better go for the 360 comes with 12 months warranty from msoft singapore... not shops warranty ok!
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Bro.. thx... i trust u all....
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Buy it from GH la....
mine dead last month because of 3ROD
reason? = bad luck! no heat problm no nothing sad.gif
Djinn help me send to Singapore for the warranty claiming smile.gif

better buy from a place where you can get help 100% from because 3ROD is common
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KL can also go to DjiNn la... Depends where in KL.

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aiseh, got back my box from bro metalgrindsolid. 1st day tested ok. 2nd day test again kena 3ROD again. i think no hope la my 1st box doh.gif
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QUOTE(alkt @ Jan 3 2007, 04:34 PM)
aiseh, got back my box from bro metalgrindsolid. 1st day tested ok. 2nd day test again kena 3ROD again. i think no hope la my 1st box doh.gif
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may i know what was bro metalgrindsolid's assessment of the problem? did the heatgun treatment resurrected it?

IIRC, ur set was upgraded with cool&quiet fans & pampered with 24/7 air-conditioning, was it not?


regarding air-con, maybe the cure is worse than the problem? a few bob posters with 3RoD was worried the excessive humidity in raining season finally tapaued their sets.

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QUOTE(alkt @ Jan 3 2007, 04:34 PM)
aiseh, got back my box from bro metalgrindsolid. 1st day tested ok. 2nd day test again kena 3ROD again. i think no hope la my 1st box doh.gif
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same here, received my 360 from bro metal.1st day working fine then 2nd day kena 3rod again.... sienz doh.gif
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Damn. Reading all these posts scares the shit out of me.

Looks like I'll have to invest in an AC for my AV room, but since it also seems random how la to escape?
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QUOTE(acougan @ Jan 3 2007, 04:38 PM)
may i know what was bro metalgrindsolid's assessment of the problem? did the heatgun treatment resurrected it?

IIRC, ur set was upgraded with cool&quiet fans & pampered with 24/7 air-conditioning, was it not?
regarding air-con, maybe the cure is worse than the problem? a few bob posters with 3RoD was worried the excessive humidity in raining season finally tapaued their sets.
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according to him, the fan might be the culprit also. yes its under air-conditioned all the time when playing.

QUOTE(jaylike7 @ Jan 3 2007, 04:40 PM)
same here, received my 360 from bro metal.1st day working fine then 2nd day kena 3rod again.... sienz doh.gif
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maybe i'll ask him take a look again...weird man doh.gif
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Do remember that, when you have your air cond on, it's cold, but the moment you turn your air cond off, the room warms up. If the cold air hasn't escaped your 360 by then it'll condense and turn into water in your box.
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Jan 3 2007, 06:06 PM)
Do remember that, when you have your air cond on, it's cold, but the moment you turn your air cond off, the room warms up. If the cold air hasn't escaped your 360 by then it'll condense and turn into water in your box.
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Wao.. terrible... under aircond also a problem, no aircond also the problem...
I just go survey around alor star game shop again, all only sell mod machine, doh.gif
Some of them tell me they also got sell recon machine too... but only less about rm1xx. sweat.gif
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Djinn if I don't buy 360 from your shop but buy somewhere else, if I pay you some money(maybe RM300?) to help me repair the 3ROD will you help me do the warranty?
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 3 2007, 07:49 PM)
Wao.. terrible...  under aircond also a problem, no aircond also the problem...
I just go survey around alor star game shop again, all only sell mod machine,  doh.gif
Some of them tell me they also got sell recon machine too... but only less about rm1xx.  sweat.gif
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it's luck lah... very hard to say or predict. my room no aircond and my japanese set just turned 1 year old 3 days ago... hopefully all smooth all the way. cant afford for 3ROD at all.
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Jan 3 2007, 07:58 PM)
it's luck lah... very hard to say or predict. my room no aircond and my japanese set just turned 1 year old 3 days ago... hopefully all smooth all the way. cant afford for 3ROD at all.
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If it's really the heat thatt causes the problem then in trouble edy. My hall has a very big TV(which I'm planning to use to play my Xbox 360 in the future). My hall has air-con, but my parents always advise me not to off it. I can already bet my 360 will die soon if I keep it there cry.gif
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QUOTE(samus_ng @ Jan 3 2007, 08:01 PM)
If it's really the heat thatt causes the problem then in trouble edy. My hall has a very big TV(which I'm planning to use to play my Xbox 360 in the future). My hall has air-con, but my parents always advise me not to off it. I can already bet my 360 will die soon if I keep it there cry.gif
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wow.. i was so close of grabing one yesterday, but after reading these horror stories.. im so holding my purchace..

when will xbox 360 launch in Msia?! at least we'll get proper support.. sigh..
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QUOTE(samus_ng @ Jan 3 2007, 07:57 PM)
Djinn if I don't buy 360 from your shop but buy somewhere else, if I pay you some money(maybe RM300?) to help me repair the 3ROD will you help me do the warranty?
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arlo,

this services I only deal with consumer/customer who purchase the xbox 360 from Gamer's Hideout Sdn Bhd only~. I don't give others people warranty (if th machine is not purchase from gamer's hideout Sdn Bhd) no matter how much you paid.

do remember that all my xbox 360 barcode are in my supplier hand. Giving them another machine won't do the trick. Some might repair (depends on situation) and some just return back to me. (hence you have to paid go-comeback transport for nothing)

QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jan 4 2007, 12:15 PM)
wow.. i was so close of grabing one yesterday, but after reading these horror stories.. im so holding my purchace..

when will xbox 360 launch in Msia?! at least we'll get proper support.. sigh..
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haih...i am really bored. i am 1 of the 3ROD victims
my xbox360 is fully original and games are all original too...
holiday just started a few hours ago...but then i dont get to play sad.gif
my console is still in Singapore...under warranty repair or what ever they doing sad.gif

already nearly 1 month d still no news sad.gif....

why cant MS just speed up the things they do...i am getting more and more pissed off d...i sent my console in early December...its the season of holidays
arent season of holidays are important to their sales on games?
why cant they just quickly do what they can to save the console and give it back...
they just spoiled my season holiday and now...spoil my sem holiday...

i just dont get why...
play original cannot
play pirated cannot

stupid MS with the stupid workmanship on their consoles...so much cases on 3ROD...
somemore they dont officialy launch the console in Malaysia...
making people here buy and worry so much...
and my Xboxlive 12 months reload is running...wasting 1 month of xboxlive subscription...

i am just a student managing so hard to play original stuff on it...
still it dies on me... rclxub.gif
got a 1.4k brick after 2 months...
missed so much of GOW!!! after the console sent to Singapore MS

i really hope they do their job nicely and get it done asap...
if come back once more with the 3RODafter awhile...i am gonna make MS pay for it...
better getting a PS3 and Wii...

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take it easy la Syuji. mine teruk also. got back from bro metal, 1st day working fine so i go get another GoW so that can play with my bro. 2nd day test again....the thing 3ROD again vmad.gif

sigh... cry.gif
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Haih...i tried to take it easy la...
but when i feel like playing...i dont get to...and i feel that i missed a lot in gaming on GOW and others...that feeling really sucks mad.gif
but alkt...you got so many consoles to play...all next gen console...if i were you, i would be very happy smile.gif

Djinn...when is my console coming back?!!! cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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same here, received my 360 from bro metal.1st day working fine then 2nd day kena 3rod again.... sienz doh.gif
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wah so many kakis here, mine also the same, after i got it back from bro metalgrind the 1st day its working fine, played few hours GOW no problem, 2nd day 3rod came back... cry.gif
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@syujisy,

try check with Jason? or get the serial code from Jason and check with MS directly? i think once your case sent to them they should have another code for recording purpose? try to get jason's supplier to get the code for you then you follow up yourself, this is what you can do at the moment..or else wait for Gamer's hideout to update you..i think thats the only choice at the moment...

another choice is get another 360 if possible...or else can't do anything but wait.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 4 2007, 11:39 PM)
Haih...i tried to take it easy la...
but when i feel like playing...i dont get to...and i feel that i missed a lot in gaming on GOW and others...that feeling really sucks  mad.gif
but alkt...you got so many consoles to play...all next gen console...if i were you, i would be very happy smile.gif
Djinn...when is my console coming back?!!!  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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well,sometimes having all 3 consoles isn't a good idea as well. i tend to stick more towards xbox360 cos GoW is a fast paced game and i like that. PS3 no killer games yet, Wii a bit tiring for me to play.i'd rather play the wii when my gf is around smile.gif

QUOTE(REsuperG @ Jan 4 2007, 11:48 PM)
wah so many kakis here, mine also the same, after i got it back from bro metalgrind the 1st day its working fine, played few hours GOW no problem, 2nd day 3rod came back... cry.gif
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QUOTE(jaylike7 @ Jan 5 2007, 12:01 AM)
@syujisy,

try check with Jason? or get the serial code from Jason and check with MS directly? i think once your case sent to them they should have another code for recording purpose? try to get jason's supplier to get the code for you then you follow up yourself, this is what you can do at the moment..or else wait for Gamer's hideout to update you..i think thats the only choice at the moment...

another choice is get another 360 if possible...or else can't do anything but wait.... doh.gif
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sigh, MS is really taking their own sweet time. when i claim mine from HK, they just change straight 1 to 1. perhaps Syuji should ask Jason to blow his supplier a bit. i suspect the supplier is still keeping in his storeroom while wait for more xbox360 before sending them together... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 4 2007, 08:53 PM)
haih...i am really bored. i am 1 of the 3ROD victims
my xbox360 is fully original and games are all original too...
holiday just started a few hours ago...but then i dont get to play sad.gif
my console is still in Singapore...under warranty repair or what ever they doing sad.gif

already nearly 1 month d still no news sad.gif....

why cant MS just speed up the things they do...i am getting more and more pissed off d...i sent my console in early December...its the season of holidays
arent season of holidays are important to their sales on games?
why cant they just quickly do what they can to save the console and give it back...
they just spoiled my season holiday and now...spoil my sem holiday...

i just dont get why...
play original cannot
play pirated cannot

stupid MS with the stupid workmanship on their consoles...so much cases on 3ROD...
somemore they dont officialy launch the console in Malaysia...
making people here buy and worry so much...
and my Xboxlive 12 months reload is running...wasting 1 month of xboxlive subscription...

i am just a student managing so hard to play original stuff on it...
still it dies on me... rclxub.gif
got a 1.4k brick after 2 months...
missed so much of GOW!!! after the console sent to Singapore MS

i really hope they do their job nicely and get it done asap...
if come back once more with the 3RODafter awhile...i am gonna make MS pay for it...
better getting a PS3 and Wii...
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i'd rather spend my time in Naza testing those supercars whistling.gif
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*cough*
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baru *cough* taruk *cough* surat berhenti *cough*

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Haih...now i holiday...like nothing much to do without the box
Silencer...you need any part times?
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 6 2007, 03:20 AM)
Haih...now i holiday...like nothing much to do without the box
Silencer...you need any part times?
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I'm doing the best I can here boss~ been kacauing and cursing already.. but hopefully next few days they can talk to me~ (talk too much liaw.. waiting the "higher rank" guys to talk to me and maybe need to apologies to them sweat.gif )
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Sorry la Bro Djinn to put you into so much trouble...
but if i can get my console back as early as possible...i will be damn happy...
i dont think its your problem now...its MS's...anyway i can follow up and screw them myself?

i can call them 24/7 and kacau them to the max and make them regret on selling me 1 of their faulty console vmad.gif
i can drive down to Sinagapore and ask for my console or what so ever i can do...

looks like i am gonna wait for another month...omg if this is true sad.gif

i appreciate what you have done Djinn...Thank you...hope everything goes well and send back to me next week...



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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 6 2007, 04:00 AM)
Sorry la Bro Djinn to put you into so much trouble...
but if i can get my console back as early as possible...i will be damn happy...
i dont think its your problem now...its MS's...anyway i can follow up and screw them myself?

i can call them 24/7 and kacau them to the max and make them regret on selling me 1 of their faulty console  vmad.gif
i can drive down to Sinagapore and ask for my console or what so ever i can do...

looks like i am gonna wait for another month...omg if this is true sad.gif

i appreciate what you have done Djinn...Thank you...hope everything goes well and send back to me next week...
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QUOTE(silencer @ Jan 6 2007, 05:01 AM)
Like I said..spend more times with your gf..... drool.gif
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what kind of job....start your own bizz..much better maaaa....by the way, what's your previous job..quaker....
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 6 2007, 03:20 AM)
Haih...now i holiday...like nothing much to do without the box
Silencer...you need any part times?
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bro ailencer aku pun nak kerja part time
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Jan 6 2007, 08:04 AM)
bro ailencer aku pun nak kerja part time
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QUOTE(izaman @ Jan 6 2007, 08:26 AM)
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got any job? please count me in. got some clue from my wife that i will get the third person in my family around this year. that will surely increase my expenses. so, if you got any, please inform me too.
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Me too... my third new member of my family also will arrive on this March... wub.gif
Anyway i think i will get my xbox360 tomolo, but still in decide get either M or non M ... rclxub.gif
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Any tips on how to prevent this 3ROD from happen for the newcomers like me (play for about 2 hours and rest for half an hour?).

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SYUJI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I MISS YOU.................................On Live !!!!!!!! cry.gif
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Any tips on how to prevent this 3ROD from happen for the newcomers like me (play for about 2 hours and rest for half an hour?).

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Ya.. for who got this 3ROD, r they play in long hour?
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This problem sucks. Wii doesn't have big blue light of death, PS3 doesn't have making crabs sounds problem. Why 360 like that wan! Btw, is the new batch of 360s that will have no 3ROD problem be a redesign or the same thing?
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QUOTE(samus_ng @ Jan 6 2007, 01:11 PM)
This problem sucks. Wii doesn't have big blue light of death, PS3 doesn't have making crabs sounds problem. Why 360 like that wan! Btw, is the new batch of 360s that will have no 3ROD problem be a redesign or the same thing?
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QUOTE(samus_ng @ Jan 6 2007, 01:11 PM)
This problem sucks. Wii doesn't have big blue light of death, PS3 doesn't have making crabs sounds problem. Why 360 like that wan! Btw, is the new batch of 360s that will have no 3ROD problem be a redesign or the same thing?
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hardware aka layout aka design failure..thats why...microsoft rushing...if they can wait like release it 2006 like sony or nintendo problem will be less... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jan 6 2007, 02:35 PM)
hardware aka layout aka design failure..thats why...microsoft rushing...if they can wait like release it 2006 like sony or nintendo problem will be less... sweat.gif
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what kind of job....start your own bizz..much better maaaa....by the way, what's your previous job..quaker....
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errr, tell u when we meet or PM? laugh.gif

QUOTE(izaman @ Jan 6 2007, 08:26 AM)
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got any job? please count me in. got some clue from my wife that i will get the third person in my family around this year. that will surely increase my expenses. so, if you got any, please inform me too.
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congrats biggrin.gif
dun play too hard, play safe after the 3rd 1 else no xbox360 for u laugh.gif

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 6 2007, 09:30 AM)
Me too...  my third new member of my family also will arrive on this March...  wub.gif
Anyway i think i will get my xbox360 tomolo, but still in decide get either M or non M ...  rclxub.gif
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get non M, better life smile.gif

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SYUJI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I MISS YOU.................................On Live !!!!!!!! cry.gif
Waaa..u call and kacau them lar...everyday !!! Tell them u send them last month already but no news till now......
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QUOTE(samus_ng @ Jan 6 2007, 08:47 PM)
Actually, the 360 launch in 2005 is OK what. Never heard of this problem until seen people talk about it. Now I have to choose, Halo or MGS Hmm hmm.gif
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choose Halo heheheh notworthy.gif

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3RoD (mati katak) is there to remind us mortals that life is precious. enjoy & live every moment to the fullest!! tongue.gif tongue.gif

maybe 3RoD xenon owners will be compensanted with new shiny zephyrs coming soon icon_rolleyes.gif
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I"m guessing they should make the memory ram with headsink la~. or shouldn't put to near to the processor and vga chip so near~..

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Silenser...my gf everyday looking at how unhappy i am without the freaking 360...she also hope i get it back soon
kakakakakaka....
she saw how happy i was on GOW.but missing on GOW after a few weeks on its release really sucks...missing a lot of action...then feel like when i get back the box...start new sem and i dont get to play much already...
maybe less people will be playing GOW already...:(sad

but no other way i can follow up myself...Djinn?



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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 6 2007, 10:27 PM)
Silenser...my gf everyday looking at how unhappy i am without the freaking 360...she also hope i get it back soon
kakakakakaka....
she saw how happy i was on GOW.but missing on GOW after a few weeks on its release really sucks...missing a lot of action...then feel like when i get back the box...start new sem and i dont get to play much already...
maybe less people will be playing GOW already...:(sad

but no other way i can follow up myself...Djinn?
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 6 2007, 10:27 PM)
Silenser...my gf everyday looking at how unhappy i am without the freaking 360...she also hope i get it back soon
kakakakakaka....
she saw how happy i was on GOW.but missing on GOW after a few weeks on its release really sucks...missing a lot of action...then feel like when i get back the box...start new sem and i dont get to play much already...
maybe less people will be playing GOW already...:(sad

but no other way i can follow up myself...Djinn?
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i felt helpless and just spamming here only...

feel like getting a PS3...lost hope in 360 sad.gif

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Uhuhu cry.gif .....if u buy ps3 then i bored already playing GoW without you... sad.gif
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smile.gif i will still play 360 la because of you smile.gif and a lot of others...i miss you guys so much
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aisey, still now news meh ??...Freaking MS !!!!...i think they goyang kaki only lar they..they wait until u faddup then u buy new 360.... sweat.gif

Btw...any of u guyz that send ur warranty back to MS got back ur console or not ???...and till how long it last until 3ROD comes back again ?
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QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ Jan 7 2007, 11:48 PM)
aisey, still now news meh ??...Freaking MS !!!!...i think they goyang kaki only lar they..they wait until u faddup then u buy new 360.... sweat.gif

Btw...any of u guyz that send ur warranty back to MS got back ur console or not ???...and till how long it last until 3ROD comes back again ?
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Wanna know that all X0 that got 3rod are asia version, right? Got any japan version got this problem?
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try google "Microsoft Singapore"

then the search result is
"The Singapore site of the biggest software company in the world"

they cant even get my console done.....sian
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 8 2007, 12:07 AM)
try google "Microsoft Singapore"

then the search result is
"The Singapore site of the biggest software company in the world"

they cant even get my console done.....sian
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do u read bob forums??

i do read abt how SGP gamers deal with the warranty & RMA there. pretty smooth, as long as u follow the procedures (call 1st to get service number than go exchange at appointed time), only thing is they will replace with a 'tested' set.

the thing is sets exported here wont have proper warranty info linked to a SGP address, perhaps that's complicating the RMA procedure?
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 8 2007, 12:07 AM)
try google "Microsoft Singapore"

then the search result is
"The Singapore site of the biggest software company in the world"

they cant even get my console done.....sian
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HAHHAA..i told you, they goyang kaki only one... whistling.gif ...u got call and kacau them or not ??? tongue.gif
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yupe...guess so
should have ask my relatives there to help
didnt know that it will take that long...maybe not that long compare to others...but i really cant stand it anymore...i need games!!!!

i dont dare to do that yet...not because i dont have to guts...its just Djinn is helping me to his best to get it for me...maybe a lot of complication i have to go through...maybe i am not supposed to talk to them...cause we Malaysian were not supposed to have this console....

arghhhhh....i can drive down to Singapore this few days...but it doesnt seem that easy to be done when i get there...
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 8 2007, 12:17 AM)
yupe...guess so
should have ask my relatives there to help
didnt know that it will take that long...maybe not that long compare to others...but i really cant stand it anymore...i need games!!!!
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hm, not sure if djinn supplier will ever read this, but the 1st SGP distributor who treats ori gamers over here properly and help with any RMA will monopolize all the grey export market

maybe email jacky (bob creator and G3 boss) for help icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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Thanks Acougan...maybe i will try...
but i also dunno what i should say...they are not part of MS...tell them also no use

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Syuji !!! if u go to SG go saturday or sunday !!! i wan follow...heheheh cry.gif
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what you want to do there la?...
kakakkaka buy games?

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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 8 2007, 12:26 AM)
Thanks Acougan...maybe i will try...
but i also dunno what should i say...they are not part of MS...tell them also no use
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hehe, ask him prepare lists of valid singapore addresses to rent out to M'sians for warranty & RMA purposes for a service fee. LoL.

eh? just read u actually have relatives residing there. should have ask them represent u buy 360 from Courts.M SGP for 2 years warranty. icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

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that's too late for me...bought the thing 2 months ago sad.gif
haih...maybe gonna visit Djinn tomoro and pay deposit for lost planet
then ask him what can i do sad.gif

then what about my lost on 1 month xboxlive subscription?
who is gonna pay for that? MS? sian...
they care nothing for their customers la

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QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ Jan 7 2007, 11:48 PM)
aisey, still now news meh ??...Freaking MS !!!!...i think they goyang kaki only lar they..they wait until u faddup then u buy new 360.... sweat.gif
Btw...any of u guyz that send ur warranty back to MS got back ur console or not ???...and till how long it last until 3ROD comes back again ?
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Wanna know that all X0 that got 3rod are asia version, right? Got any japan version got this problem?
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QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 8 2007, 12:17 AM)
yupe...guess so
should have ask my relatives there to help
didnt know that it will take that long...maybe not that long compare to others...but i really cant stand it anymore...i need games!!!!

i dont dare to do that yet...not because i dont have to guts...its just Djinn is helping me to his best to get it for me...maybe a lot of complication i have to go through...maybe i am not supposed to talk to them...cause we Malaysian were not supposed to have this console....

arghhhhh....i can drive down to Singapore this few days...but it doesnt seem that easy to be done when i get there...
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take bus down cheaper leh smile.gif

QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 8 2007, 12:29 AM)
what you want to do there la?...
kakakkaka buy games?
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SG games aren't that cheap as far as i remember. normal retail price nia smile.gif

QUOTE(Syuji @ Jan 8 2007, 01:04 AM)
that's too late for me...bought the thing 2 months ago sad.gif
haih...maybe gonna visit Djinn tomoro and pay deposit for lost planet
then ask him what can i do sad.gif

then what about my lost on 1 month xboxlive subscription?
who is gonna pay for that? MS? sian...
they care nothing for their customers la
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Anyone here familiar with the "Unable to read disc. Please wipe with a clean cloth... restart your console" (can't remember exactly, but it's something like that) error?

FYI, my games are as clean as new.

Initially I thought this error is only exclusive to my GOW disc... but I got it when playing Oblivion as well (so far only once).

A sign of 3ROD, maybe?


Btw, I have a friend who bought a 2nd batch PAL console, and he's experienced this error as well. Plus on certain occasions he even had his discs scratched by the machine!
According to him upon inserting the disc the drive would sound really noisy and the next thing you know, the disc have scratches.

But since he's in the UK, he can simply get a 1-to-1 exchange from the stores there.



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i dont think that's the sign for 3ROD

3ROD is when the 360 keep hanging and you have to restart the thing....
after you restart and keep on doing that...then after awhile it will not boot...then 3ROD lights flash...then bye bye

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*touch wood* Just now tried playing online NFSC match and twice also made my 360 hang. Damn scared, the new game update must have screwed up some stuff doh.gif
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[QUOTE][quote=cannavaro,Jan 8 2007, 02:02 AM]
Anyone here familiar with the "Unable to read disc. Please wipe with a clean cloth... restart your console" (can't remember exactly, but it's something like that) error?

FYI, my games are as clean as new.

Initially I thought this error is only exclusive to my GOW disc... but I got it when playing Oblivion as well (so far only once).

A sign of 3ROD, maybe? [/QUOTE]

I also have this error only if i left my Disc overnight in my console..but this only happens to my GoW and PGR3 only...


[QUOTE]Btw, I have a friend who bought a 2nd batch PAL console, and he's experienced this error as well. Plus on certain occasions he even had his discs scratched by the machine!
According to him upon inserting the disc the drive would sound really noisy and the next thing you know, the disc have scratches[/QUOTE].

Mine will have a scary sound like the disc was stuck inside but no scratches..if im not mistaken MUNKY also got this problem...


Syuji...i juz wan go SG for fun lar...if u go alone i can juz company u lar..not buy games lar..buy from DJINN is good enough for me...consider cheap already lar his games...

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QUOTE(scpt @ Jan 8 2007, 03:48 AM)
*touch wood* Just now tried playing online NFSC match and twice also made my 360 hang. Damn scared, the new game update must have screwed up some stuff doh.gif
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Well guys, I have officially join this topic. My 360 just died on me last week, took it to Bro Djin's shop hoping there's a solution to it. Wat happen was the machine keep on freezing on me regardless weather im playing arcade games, let the machine run or any particular discs. The machine just keeps on freezing.

I've decided to get a new one, sending my problematic one back to Japan (for repair).Haiiii...there goes my intention to grab Wii and PS3.

Oh if you guys are wondering it's Jap set, I think 1st batch. Shit man feel so crappy and lost now. And on top of that Lost Planet on the way.......shiiiiiiiittt.

Cheers guys!

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QUOTE(Seeking Peace @ Jan 9 2007, 12:37 PM)
Well guys, I have officially join this topic. My 360 just died on me last week, took it to Bro Djin's shop hoping there's a solution to it. Wat happen was the machine keep on freezing on me regardless weather im playing arcade games, let the machine run or any particular discs. The machine just keeps on freezing.

I've decided to get a new one, sending my problematic one back to Japan (for repair).Haiiii...there goes my intention to grab Wii and PS3.

Oh if you guys are wondering it's Jap set, I think 1st batch. Shit man feel so crappy and lost now. And on top of that Lost Planet on the way.......shiiiiiiiittt.

Cheers guys!
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Well if you were in USA, then you will get a new xbox 360 as they were extended their warranty on it due to manufacturer defective issue.
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QUOTE(Seeking Peace @ Jan 9 2007, 12:37 PM)
Well guys, I have officially join this topic. My 360 just died on me last week, took it to Bro Djin's shop hoping there's a solution to it. Wat happen was the machine keep on freezing on me regardless weather im playing arcade games, let the machine run or any particular discs. The machine just keeps on freezing.

I've decided to get a new one, sending my problematic one back to Japan (for repair).Haiiii...there goes my intention to grab Wii and PS3.

Oh if you guys are wondering it's Jap set, I think 1st batch. Shit man feel so crappy and lost now. And on top of that Lost Planet on the way.......shiiiiiiiittt.

Cheers guys!
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Somebody here that kena ROD, how many hour per day u 'lenjan' ur xbox360? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 9 2007, 01:24 PM)
I though all the first batch of Japan set sure dun have this problem....  sweat.gif
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How long I play ahhh...wah very hard to say. On weekends memang puluh habis til next morning. Weekdays 2-3 hrs only. But i think its quiet relative la guys. Macam bila I kena this problem....I baru start my console 1-2mins dah kaput.

Last week was not so bad, bila freeze i reboot/restart a few times then ok.Yesterday no matter how many times i reboot/restart always hang and now and then keluar the stupid red light.

Haiiii...........tension sial............

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QUOTE(Seeking Peace @ Jan 9 2007, 01:55 PM)
How long I play ahhh...wah very hard to say. On weekends memang puluh habis til next morning. Weekdays 2-3 hrs only. But i think its quiet relative la guys. Macam bila I kena this problem....I baru start my console 1-2mins dah kaput.

Last week was not so bad, bila freeze i reboot/restart a few times then ok.Yesterday no matter how many times i reboot/restart always hang and now and then keluar the stupid red light.

Haiiii...........tension sial............

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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jan 9 2007, 01:30 PM)
i guess not... sweat.gif
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My friend's 360 hangs while playing RV6 online..happened a few times already. When it hangs, sometimes the red light will blink. He bought it from Connie, Asian version in March I think.

We're not sure if it's the update that's the issue or the ROD is impending..sigh. So tonight he's going to try another game to see if it hangs, failing that, clearing all updates.

Wish us luck.
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QUOTE(Seeking Peace @ Jan 9 2007, 12:37 PM)
Well guys, I have officially join this topic. My 360 just died on me last week, took it to Bro Djin's shop hoping there's a solution to it. Wat happen was the machine keep on freezing on me regardless weather im playing arcade games, let the machine run or any particular discs. The machine just keeps on freezing.

I've decided to get a new one, sending my problematic one back to Japan (for repair).Haiiii...there goes my intention to grab Wii and PS3.

Oh if you guys are wondering it's Jap set, I think 1st batch. Shit man feel so crappy and lost now. And on top of that Lost Planet on the way.......shiiiiiiiittt.

Cheers guys!
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bro, ur 360 kaput? so sad to hear that... how u send back to japan? ace settle for u? this gives me the shivers... my jap unit like tunggu masa nak mati je... sweat.gif
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Hikaru...yah Hin mention 2 me 2 pass it back to him.He said he will send it back on my behalf.I kena bear the shipping cost la...

You better jaga man!Ur machine sama time dgn I.

Im getting a new set from GH hopefully by this week.Cannot tahan leh!Hows Penang I dengar naik air all,betul ke?
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QUOTE(Seeking Peace @ Jan 9 2007, 12:37 PM)
Well guys, I have officially join this topic. My 360 just died on me last week, took it to Bro Djin's shop hoping there's a solution to it. Wat happen was the machine keep on freezing on me regardless weather im playing arcade games, let the machine run or any particular discs. The machine just keeps on freezing.

I've decided to get a new one, sending my problematic one back to Japan (for repair).Haiiii...there goes my intention to grab Wii and PS3.

Oh if you guys are wondering it's Jap set, I think 1st batch. Shit man feel so crappy and lost now. And on top of that Lost Planet on the way.......shiiiiiiiittt.

Cheers guys!
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sorry to hear about your 3ROD... i am just praying hard my 1st batch japanses set also healthy... support originals but everyday also living in fear
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Jan 9 2007, 03:43 PM)
sorry to hear about your 3ROD... i am just praying hard my 1st batch japanses set also healthy... support originals but everyday also living in fear
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Jan 9 2007, 03:43 PM)
sorry to hear about your 3ROD... i am just praying hard my 1st batch japanses set also healthy... support originals but everyday also living in fear
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Wah..Bro.. why we need to play like that lah..... no feeling safety at all.......... aiiiiiii mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 9 2007, 05:53 PM)
Wah..Bro.. why we need to play like that lah.....  no feeling safety at all.......... aiiiiiii  mega_shok.gif
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x360 is veri hot la...i purposely open casing to let my fan blow it lol~!
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QUOTE(InLove @ Jan 9 2007, 08:19 PM)
x360 is veri hot la...i purposely open casing to let my fan blow it lol~!
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Me also thinking to do that too... just now i play every 45 minute will stop for 10 minute.... set my alarm ring every 45 minute... then my table fan non stop working for it.... sweat.gif
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Well it's official. As of half an hour ago, my friend's Asian 360 flashed the ROD.

It's dead. Not modded, well ventilated, and it still died.

Tomorrow we're taking it to Connie to see what (if anything) she can do. Now I'm looking at mine and thinking if I should tell my fiance it may not have been a good idea to get me one...
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Jan 9 2007, 09:21 PM)
Well it's official. As of half an hour ago, my friend's Asian 360 flashed the ROD.

It's dead. Not modded, well ventilated, and it still died.

Tomorrow we're taking it to Connie to see what (if anything) she can do. Now I'm looking at mine and thinking if I should tell my fiance it may not have been a good idea to get me one...
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Another X0 die !!! sweat.gif Still virgin !!

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Jan 9 2007, 09:21 PM)
Well it's official. As of half an hour ago, my friend's Asian 360 flashed the ROD.

It's dead. Not modded, well ventilated, and it still died.

Tomorrow we're taking it to Connie to see what (if anything) she can do. Now I'm looking at mine and thinking if I should tell my fiance it may not have been a good idea to get me one...
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someties, I do wonder why several of unmodded user get 3rod after updating their machines???? Is there any possibility that those sellers modifying the firmwares of 360 according to the market demands...if there ares more demands for modded version, they will mode the machine...but if it happen otherwisw, they will try to revert back to the original firmware...the question now, would it leave any trace of modification to the prying eyes of microsoft authority????
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hmm....perhaps our hot & humid equatorial climate doesn't agree well with a 360.
i know ppl here will laugh at me, but i wrap my set in P-A bubblewrap when its cooled down & not being played sweat.gif

^ LoL the wrapping is because of dust factor. my 4 yr old ps2 damn dusty both outside & inside. those P-A bubblewrap is the perfect size, just cut some space for the power cord, i unplug the video cable everytime icon_idea.gif laugh.gif

also i seldom switch off the set right after a game, i leave it on dashboard for a few minutes b4 shutting it down (the air coming out at the back is cooler when it's idle)


QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 9 2007, 08:50 PM)
Me also thinking to do that too... just now i play every 45 minute will stop for 10 minute.... set my alarm ring every 45 minute... then my table fan non stop working for it....    sweat.gif
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QUOTE(acougan @ Jan 9 2007, 10:33 PM)
hmm....perhaps our hot & humid equatorial climate doesn't agree well with a 360.
i know ppl here will laugh at me, but i wrap my set in P-A bubblewrap when its cooled down & not being played  sweat.gif

also i seldom switch off the set right after a game, i leave it on dashboard for a few minutes b4 shutting it down (the air coming out at the back is cooler when it's idle)
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hi guys maybe ur guys donno me coz i one of the victim 3 deadly RoLight....
mine i purchase from eddy old shop sg set n warranty means sg oso rite

past 2 month adi eddy help me sent my 360 to sg for warranty but still no reply from sg. actually i really pissed off but donno who to blame the shop i beli from or sg Microsoft for late warranty my account almost expired adi again same like my old xbox renew account box problem now again renew june play for awhile same thing happen shit man xbox360 rosak.....

what is our right as a malaysian consumer i hope some one with brilliant ideas come out with solution or piracy will be the solution............

just want to share my painful journey with fellow 360.......
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Hai guys just got a new set of 360 from Bro Djinn,not plannin 2 play 2nite still phobia leh. Waitin 2 give a proper burial for my first console (she serves me well!).Goin 2 hantar for 'medical checkup' do no bila boleh baik.

Meanwhile waiting patiently for Lost Planet.......to be con't

Cheers!
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QUOTE(fendykoston @ Jan 10 2007, 12:26 AM)
hi guys maybe ur guys donno me coz i one of the victim 3 deadly RoLight....
mine i purchase from eddy old shop sg set n warranty means sg oso rite

past 2 month adi eddy help me sent my 360 to sg for warranty but still no reply from sg. actually i really pissed off but donno who to blame the shop i beli from or sg Microsoft  for late warranty my account almost expired adi again same like my old xbox renew account box problem now again renew june play for awhile same thing happen shit man  xbox360 rosak.....

what is our right as a malaysian consumer i hope some one with brilliant ideas come out with solution or piracy will be the solution............

just want to share my painful journey with fellow 360.......
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syuji also sent to SG and already more than a month still nothing. yours 2 months already... how come so bad... we all here spent every penny available on originals and yet got this kind of treatment from them


QUOTE(Seeking Peace @ Jan 10 2007, 02:06 AM)
Hai guys just got a new set of 360 from Bro Djinn,not plannin 2 play 2nite still phobia leh. Waitin 2 give a proper burial for my first console (she serves me well!).Goin 2 hantar for 'medical checkup' do no bila boleh baik.

Meanwhile waiting patiently for Lost Planet.......to be con't

Cheers!
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you sending it back tp japan? update us later
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Yeah bro judge, my friend's 360 and mine came from the same shop (Imbi Mario) although he bought his in May or June 2006. Last night I spent some time just looking at the console, not daring to play it cause if there's a bloody random 6 month life expectancy for it I pity my fiance for spending so much money on something like that sad.gif We'll be going to Imbi today to see if we can still send it to sg...damn.

I don't know if this will ever change my stance towards originals - I know it's MS' inexperience at manufacturing at work, but come on! People spend hard earned cash on this!

OT: Sony still has manufacturing mastered. No doubt.

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yet another victim....sometimes i feel that even i bought a new one, i still live in fear. maybe it's time to migrate to other console....PS3 perhaps. but the console is quite expensive, maybe i have to wait until the next gen price war start.

OFF-TOPIC: is there any serious problem like this in PS3 and wii? i dont think wii have because the hardware is not that powerful if compare to 2 other console.

p/s feel like very pasrah...
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Pasrah is the word my friend, and also PARAH.

Yeah, OT: I have not heard of the PS3's Weak Point Crabs of Death or Wii Sexy Blue light of death either.

So now everytime I turn on the 360, it's with a little prayer...
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Jan 10 2007, 11:00 AM)
Pasrah is the word my friend, and also PARAH.

Yeah, OT: I have not heard of the PS3's Weak Point Crabs of Death or Wii Sexy Blue light of death either.

So now everytime I turn on the 360, it's with a little prayer...
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yeah yeah...true...it's feel like counting the green light. i do like this everytime i boot my x360: 1....2.....3....4.....yeahhhh...it's booting.

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PS3 also got lar. read about it somewhere smile.gif
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Jan 10 2007, 11:00 AM)
Pasrah is the word my friend, and also PARAH.

Yeah, OT: I have not heard of the PS3's Weak Point Crabs of Death or Wii Sexy Blue light of death either.

So now everytime I turn on the 360, it's with a little prayer...
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Lucky i m still not sell off my ps2 yet, at least if my X0 die mega_shok.gif , ps2 still can comfort for me... anyway hope this 3ROD will not happen anymore for all X0 player....... GOD BLESS notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 10 2007, 11:10 AM)
Lucky i m still not sell off my ps2 yet, at least if my X0 die  mega_shok.gif  , ps2 still can comfort for me... anyway hope this 3ROD will not happen anymore for all X0 player....... GOD BLESS  notworthy.gif
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X0 ....is it xbox360 aka x360? sorry...i'm a noobie as shown in my post count. wink.gif
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QUOTE(acougan @ Jan 9 2007, 10:33 PM)
hmm....perhaps our hot & humid equatorial climate doesn't agree well with a 360.
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also i seldom switch off the set right after a game, i leave it on dashboard for a few minutes b4 shutting it down (the air coming out at the back is cooler when it's idle).
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i think if u r ready to game for a few hours (4~6h), just play it in 1 session. playing and stopping for frequent cooling breaks might introduce extreme hot-cold cycles and further stress those weak solder points.
its funny how my little xbox has turned me into a superstitous freak.

my set barely 3 mths old and yes its modded. ( i know the risk of banhammer and 3RoD when i did this) i even joked with andy when i bought it that i hoped it'll tahan until an official Msia launch when i can get a core set with warranty tongue.gif tongue.gif

i dont have aircon or ceiling fan, only a measly tabletop fan on a corner of room. i just make sure the box & power brick gets plenty of room. i elevate it using chinese chess pieces on the floor in front of the tv, and put it away nicely when not in use. (hence, the bubblewrap pyjammas to take care of dust & humidity tongue.gif) sometimes, i even check & feel the temperature of its exhaust air.

i just try reading some xbox-scene forums fr time2time and see how they doing with their heatgun treatment and dunno what reflow solder process (i actually have no technical clue what's that abt). actually the failure rate here is pretty similar to the bob.sg forums. dunno whether is environment related or purely hardware related? like someone said, we seldom hear a jpn gamer b****ing abt 3RoD or 90 days warranty. mb becos, jpn gamers only b**** in jpn forums which most of us dont understand? tongue.gif

its not all doom & gloom. many always-gaming owners celebrate their box 1st anniversary. those demo units at GH practically work around the clock. hopefully, 3RoD is not majorly threatened by old house electrical wiring or TNB power supply issues.

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Good point bro.

I also am a bit at a loss as to how to improve the positioning of the xbox. Observe my setup:

So got wind, got ventilation from outside, some more got so much space around the 360. How else? Howwww?

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