any idea if the Sporeans gamers with Sg launch units facing similar ratio of breakdowns? mb its a bad batch from a botched production line? yup, i'll also pray for all those unlucky fellas here. i'm one of those who postpone my purchase after reading all those overheating problems.

hope they launch in M'sia soon. warranty FTW!

may i know what was bro metalgrindsolid's assessment of the problem? did the heatgun treatment resurrected it?

IIRC, ur set was upgraded with cool&quiet fans & pampered with 24/7 air-conditioning, was it not?


regarding air-con, maybe the cure is worse than the problem? a few bob posters with 3RoD was worried the excessive humidity in raining season finally tapaued their sets.

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 3 2007, 04:43 PM

sorry.doubled.

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 3 2007, 04:43 PM

3RoD (mati katak) is there to remind us mortals that life is precious. enjoy & live every moment to the fullest!!

maybe 3RoD xenon owners will be compensanted with new shiny zephyrs coming soon

edited. oops.

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 6 2007, 11:23 PM

do u read bob forums??

i do read abt how SGP gamers deal with the warranty & RMA there. pretty smooth, as long as u follow the procedures (call 1st to get service number than go exchange at appointed time), only thing is they will replace with a 'tested' set.

the thing is sets exported here wont have proper warranty info linked to a SGP address, perhaps that's complicating the RMA procedure?

hm, not sure if djinn supplier will ever read this, but the 1st SGP distributor who treats ori gamers over here properly and help with any RMA will monopolize all the grey export market

maybe email jacky (bob creator and G3 boss) for help

hehe, ask him prepare lists of valid singapore addresses to rent out to M'sians for warranty & RMA purposes for a service fee. LoL.

eh? just read u actually have relatives residing there. should have ask them represent u buy 360 from Courts.M SGP for 2 years warranty.

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 8 2007, 12:33 AM

hmm....perhaps our hot & humid equatorial climate doesn't agree well with a 360.
i know ppl here will laugh at me, but i wrap my set in P-A bubblewrap when its cooled down & not being played

^ LoL the wrapping is because of dust factor. my 4 yr old ps2 damn dusty both outside & inside. those P-A bubblewrap is the perfect size, just cut some space for the power cord, i unplug the video cable everytime

also i seldom switch off the set right after a game, i leave it on dashboard for a few minutes b4 shutting it down (the air coming out at the back is cooler when it's idle)


i think if u r ready to game for a few hours (4~6h), just play it in 1 session. playing and stopping for frequent cooling breaks might introduce extreme hot-cold cycles and further stress those weak solder points.

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 9 2007, 10:41 PM

its funny how my little xbox has turned me into a superstitous freak.

my set barely 3 mths old and yes its modded. ( i know the risk of banhammer and 3RoD when i did this) i even joked with andy when i bought it that i hoped it'll tahan until an official Msia launch when i can get a core set with warranty

i dont have aircon or ceiling fan, only a measly tabletop fan on a corner of room. i just make sure the box & power brick gets plenty of room. i elevate it using chinese chess pieces on the floor in front of the tv, and put it away nicely when not in use. (hence, the bubblewrap pyjammas to take care of dust & humidity ) sometimes, i even check & feel the temperature of its exhaust air.

i just try reading some xbox-scene forums fr time2time and see how they doing with their heatgun treatment and dunno what reflow solder process (i actually have no technical clue what's that abt). actually the failure rate here is pretty similar to the bob.sg forums. dunno whether is environment related or purely hardware related? like someone said, we seldom hear a jpn gamer b****ing abt 3RoD or 90 days warranty. mb becos, jpn gamers only b**** in jpn forums which most of us dont understand?

its not all doom & gloom. many always-gaming owners celebrate their box 1st anniversary. those demo units at GH practically work around the clock. hopefully, 3RoD is not majorly threatened by old house electrical wiring or TNB power supply issues.

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 10 2007, 12:11 PM

some choice quotes from bob.sg

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 10 2007, 12:48 PM

erm, so either we stick lead-free solders for a better future environment and risk 3RoD, or we replace them with lead-based solders and further poison our planet. decisions...decisions...

i think the small shop is not the MS' official replacement centre. many products company sub-contract their RMA services to that small office. and yeah, the replacement tested sets are always out of stock read bob. monsoon season is 3RoD retirement time


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on another topic, do anyone remember some forumer talking about the 360 leaking some AC current? i think there was a previous discussion on that in one of the forums. is leaking = the power supply is not grounded?



This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 17 2007, 02:33 PM

http://bob.com.sg/forum/showpost.php?p=345872&postcount=392

^ i'm evil but i cannot help laughing inside at his/her mis-fortune. cheap SDTV FTW!?

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 18 2007, 03:39 PM

hm, wondering if we can discuss this situation with some of them bob gamers in SGP for help. as u know, SGP gamers get to claim warranty much easier if they claim the sets was bought by them (no SN registration/receipt necessary). i wonder if any of them gamer/technopreneur will open a RMA help service for a fee. there's even someone working at the service center posting at bob

if there's any technical guru who has a proper workshop & can invest in some equipment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflow_soldering

^collect all the 3RoD coffins and start a refurbish xbox360 factory

thanks for translating that interesting article.

2 points to note - how much work is involved in re-soldering the GPU/CPU chips? i wonder if normal technicians can perform it?

- that small internal fan can lower the temp form (60-70 deg) to (35-40 deg)!? sounds hard to believe




even if u buy 360 at SGP even with proper receipt, 1 to 1 exchange is not without hassle. the RMA procedure is easier if the S/N is registered to a SGP gamertag. also the whole process can take anywhere from 2 days to 2 weeks depending on availability of replacement sets. another bad point is that alot of bad rumors saying some untrustworthy JB shops have been carefully tampering with those warranty stickers. so can understand why their service center might have a certain bias if those RMA requests are coming in from JB

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 24 2007, 02:33 PM

haha, pls dont worry too much abt 3RoD before it happens, u r only allowed to worry abt it after u have it, LoL

more here;
http://bob.com.sg/forum/showthread.php?p=345442#post345442

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 25 2007, 12:50 PM

sorry to hear ur set also kena. i was hoping ur working on it - replacing the thermal paste & polishing the heatsink would improve the situation. do u have any know-how & equipment to resolder/reflow solder/reball/etc the GPU/CPU chip?

also, thanks for ur chess piece advice i still using them.

This post has been edited by acougan: Jan 25 2007, 02:58 PM

u mean taping over all the airvents on the sides/behind? wonder if we should buy & test a "dehumidifier" gadget. maybe move to a dry climate country and resurrect it!