So I'm going over to the UK to do my degree.

Anyone currently (or has been) studying there?

Is the style of lecturing very different as compared to Malaysia? Do they place a lot of importance on coursework? How do Malaysians generally cope?

I need tips on living wise as well. The must-haves, the dos, the don'ts.

Thanx

Yes. Lecturers explains more but you need to learn the art of writing fast.

It depends on what course you are taking.


Make sure you are able to mix well with other people. Be friendly and

Dos:
1) Don't afraid to ask during lectures. They are very helpful.
2)
3) Bring more Milo and Maggi Mee if you dun know how to cook or you don't like western food.
4) Bring some cash (not too much) along with you for a few days expenses.
5) Be thrifty BUT not too thrifty (kiam-siap)
6) Enjoy your life there
7) Always walk with another partner during the night. Safety first.
8) Don't waste your luggage weight by bringing 10-inch thick notepads.

Don'ts:
1) be a snob
2) show-off, wannabe or whatever falls in that category


Will add more later.

This post has been edited by goliath: Jun 22 2006, 06:41 PM

be self confident.
i find it useful to mix more with the locals there instead of hiding in your comfortable cocoon... meaning mixing with malaysians.
not to say that do not mix with the malaysian... but try to mix with other races more.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=302542&hl=INTEC

Here are some things that you may find useful...:

1) Don't multiply the price of everything by 7. If you do, you wouldn't eat anything.
2) Get a part-time job. Extra money is always a good thing. Try avoiding working in call centres. Best jobs are the ones on campus.
3) Party every weekend. You're a student, enjoy it while it lasts.
4) Join societies. It's the best way to make new friends, and it looks good on your CV.
5) Do volunteer work. Makes you feel good, and it's a bonus on your CV as well.

That's it from me. Above all else, studying abroad is a great learning experience. For the first time in your life, you'll have to manage your time, finances, accommodation and social life all by yourself. It's great fun, trust me

Thanx, everyone. Keep 'em coming!


Btw, wat's this link for? I glanced thru the first page and it didn't seem relevant

you can visit at ....

http://www.thes.co.uk

http://www.educationuk.org

http://education.guardian.co.uk

http://www.studylondon.ac.uk

silent scream ure goint to uk...congrats...
btw ure from where actually...?stpm?matric?
what is ur result...?do u active in ko ku?
u got the scholarship?frm who?
eheh..just wanna know...

erm, i'd like to ask...is it too late for me to apply to any of the Unis in the UK? 30th June's the closing date I know but I'm worried that places in Unis are filled by now. sigh.... been procrastinating due to heavy workload at work..now that i've resigned i'm finally free to to all these..UPU's results are out but i'm not that keen to go..so erm, help please? I'm so dead...

oh..with 3A- and a B+, do I stand a chance to get into Pharmacy at any UK Unis?

I'm afraid that you'll need to go for the next round of application(intake 2007). Pharmacy is a competitive course, most if not all universities would have had a complete file since january or so.

actually i juz wanna know how u apply for UK uni???

You would know if you have visited the repsective unversities' website.

In any case, UCAS and MABECS are places to start.

Thanx loads to those who helped. Though links to websites are good, I'd prefer those who has first-hand experience. I mean, those websites don't tell me things like

"Don't multiply the price of everything by 7. If you do, you wouldn't eat anything"

Haha...yeah. Keep 'em coming

wow..filled in by january? dang..

oh, well...i'll try the next best thing..nottingham malaysia..am i too late to apply for that? pls don't tell me the closing date for application's on the 30th of June as well...

You can give it a try to apply at nottingham malaysia.
When you come here for the first time, I'm sure most of the things you see are expensive (food, accessories and other stuffs)
Once you get a part time job or get used to the environment here, you'll know how to budget yourself already!

i applied to NZ, auckland university. hope still in time to get a place for the 2nd semester which is on 17th of july.. or else nid to wait till next yr. ''' 2006 will be a blank yr for me.

yea, i have frens in uk too..
u can try to work part-time, to help supportin urself..
minimum wage in UK 1 hr is 5.5. U can work 20hrs per week.
for holidays, u can work full day..

so if u work 20hrs a week, it's definitely enuff for lodging + food.
ur parents jus hav to pay for tuition fees. but u nid to hav a fren
whois familiar with uk, so it will be easier to get a job.

for NZ, 10.25 per hr.
they hav minimum wage, unlike msia... work until like a bull...
no human rights!!! Lolx

Hi .... for your information, the will be a LAST ROUND enrollment around July-August. This is called final clearence. Most of the representatives from UK uni will come over to M'sia to collect students, but still depends on their uni policies. The actual date of this clearence can be clarified with the British Councelor. Just keep your eyes on the Adv of newspaper & TV. Wish u all the best! *CHEERS*

Updates:

Dos:
1) Apply Railcard for cheap train tickets (in UK)
2) Bring easy-to-wash clothes (e.g. t-shirt, jeans, etc.) which doesn't require much attention.
3) Bring a few pieces of winter wear (1-2 would do) ONLY because Malaysia sells sucky winter wears. Out of fashion and not thick enough > Get it over there.
4) Yes, you can work part time. But do not spend too much time in that until you neglect your studies.

Don'ts:
1) Waste your time on applying HSBC saving accounts. They are very fussy though they are famous/good/international/professional. Go for Natwest for instant approval. Barclays (not recommended) requires you to have a ertain amount of cash in your saving account or else you'll get penalty.
2) Bring dry products ONLY to avoid quarantine by Immigration department.

This post has been edited by goliath: Jun 27 2006, 03:41 PM

I have HSBC, Natwest and Lloyds bank.
Well if you get into UK universities that is in a major city, eg: birmingham, you'll only get a Step account from Natwest (which is quite useless)
I have friends who are studying in Uni of Leeds and Uni of Glasgow. They manage to get Student Account from Natwest. Try to ask natwest first if they offer Student acc to you or not because Student Accoun is only applicable to LOCAL students. If you get a student account, you'll get a 5 years young person railcard. That's cool man!
If natwest offers you a normal Step account, you can try lloyds (which I did) and I luv Lloyds. 1) high interest, cheque book, visa debit card, visa credit card, internet banking.

I'm not sure if you're interested with HSBC but HSBC sucks!!!! I hate that!! But I know some think HSBC is good. Depends on which branch I guess. The branch in my university sucks!! lousy service!!!

Yes! Those are the things I need to know. Hehe...thanx

And oh, I'm going to Uni of Sheffield. No, NOT Sheffield Harlem. Sheffield.

congrats!!! My bro was from sheffield uni.
Quite nice city!! Lots of hill and high areas for you to climb. Good for you to exercise! hehe
Are you doing law or engineering? Most malaysians go there for these two courses.

coming to sheffield?

i'll be waiting for u here, then.

Going to Uni of Sheffield! Cool .... nice place ah ...... been there long long time ago ...

Good for u if u like to play snooker ... haha ...

This post has been edited by chin_kh: Jun 27 2006, 11:26 PM

Hhhmm.. I was given a Savings/Student and Step account when I registered with Natwest. Maybe they have changed their policies now.

And yes, HSBC (in Sheffield, one of the branches) has snobbish staffs. And they have strict rules to get a good local student account (which is better than international student account)

Hail University of Sheffield. Me graduated from there too. Goooooood place to study . Btw, where are you staying? Broadlane? Halifax Halls? Tapton Halls? Enjoy it because it is goooood especially the student unions Probably azarimy could show you around

This post has been edited by goliath: Jun 28 2006, 08:40 AM

Anyone coming to birmingham uni to study?
So many people are from sheffield uni..

Dos:

Get high.......life is short. College only comes once in your lifetime....

Don't:
Get killed. That's all i can say.

Oh yeah.. If you need to know more information about UK for students:
http://www.intersites.co.uk/students/

Hahaha! That's me!
Don't worry dude! I'll be bringing my class over to Birmingham this Sept!
It's a twinning program anyways! LOL

Oh from Taylors is it?
Are you guys coming for Welcome Week this September??
One week before university starts!! If you do, you'll see me there!!
You should come because I think it's free and you can meet lots of different people and get free stuffs!! hehehe

looks like there is a predepature briefing in British Council early next month.Do look for the ad in todays Star Paper

So many ppl from Sheffield/UK, yet so little advice given.

Come on la, don't kedekut tips

advice what?

not much to advice ler... really. if u come here sehelai sepinggang also can survive. waaaayyy too many malaysians in sheffield. about 600+ registered this year, and that does not include their families. add a few more for sheffield hallam. generally u cant walk around the city without bumping into a msian (exaggerate! exaggerate!).

mental preparation is most important.

Perhaps you might wanna ask questions so that we answer it with what we know. That's easier. As azarimy said, there are alot, i repeat a lot, of Malaysians in Sheffield. So no worries. It is like your second home. One more advice I could give to you. If you love your stuff (expensive ones like electronic gadgets) so much, please go to Student Union and purchase Insurance from a company called Ensleigh (or something like that). I've lost 2 laptops within 6 months (amazing, rite???!!) but thank god, I insured my laptop. So the insurance company paid 90% of the amount that I insured (10% goes to processing fees). Please take care of your stuff properly. Lock the windows even if you go out for toilet visit. I'm not joking. That time when my laptop got stolen, I was in my friend's room for 5 freaking mins only!! . Other than that, nothing much to tell. There's Pound shop in The Moor. £1 for freaking BIG Toblerone.. Get your hangers and laundry bag from there too.

And yes, please don't be an @ss making false police report so that you could get a brand new phone (and having the thought of selling the current one to make money). A lot of people are doing that . What a humilating act.....

This post has been edited by goliath: Jun 29 2006, 11:37 PM

Dude you forgot Meadowhall .

well, for food related stuff, it's quite easy to get asian food in sheffield.

a couple of chinese, indian, thai restaurants near the university. havent found any malaysian restaurants yet, surprisingly. there are lots of malaysian restaurants in other places, but in sheffield, i couldnt find one!

asian grocery stores are also strewn about in sheffield. u can get from mee maggi to kicap habhal to belacan. what more do u want? all made in msia one! hahahaha.

u dont really need to bring dry food. just enough to survive for about a month or so, until u can familiarize urself around sheffield. for muslim it'll be a little harder to find halal butchers, but all the kebab stores serve halal food, so not a big deal.

and meadowhall... aiihh... the current attraction to sheffield. one of the biggest shopping complex in the midlands.

Oh, here's another thing I just though of. In M'sia, everyone drives everywhere. Even if you're just going to the shop you drive. Don't deny it.

Well, time to get used to walking. Your 'selamba' walking style will change within 2 weeks I assure you.

Yes, Meadowhall. The famous shopping complex in Sheffield. Shopping paradise.

For chinese groceries, go to The Moor. There's a shop named Tai Sun. It is located opposite of Golden Dragon (chinese restaurant). That's where I got most my cooking stuff (Bak Kut Teh ingredients, noodles, soy sauce etc)

For muslim groceries, my friend told me there's shop in Filey Street or Bramhall. Check it out.

Cheap western food, go to pubs (Varsity or Cavendish). (Last time, not sure about now) They offer 2 main dishes for £5. And the dishes are reasonable size.

If you are lazy to cook, get frozen food from Sainsbury or Tesco. Frozen foods are my supper usually

As for duvet (a.k.a. blanket in Malaysia), bedsheets and pillow casing, get it from TJ Hughes. You could try Mark & Spencers but they are pricy because their stuff are quality ones.
Yes. I'm suprised that I could walk pretty much in UK compare to here. Probably is the heat factor. However, get a walking shoes for comfortable reason .

This post has been edited by goliath: Jul 2 2006, 02:17 AM

yes... tai sun. but i usually get distracted by forbidden planet just opposite the street. hahaha



hah! i just live upstairs a few lots away on monmouth street.

I always went to Budgens for a quick shopping. . Anyway ASDA is much cheaper compared to Sainsbury or Tesco


Yeah dude. Heat is the number one factor. Cycling is quite fun too.

Forbidden Planet is a good source for manga . Anyway I enjoyed my 3 months stay in Sheffield.

I haven't been to ASDA b4. I think it's quite far away. So, I opt for Sainsbury as my main supermarket coz it is walking distance . Budgens is the place where I get my wines

Forbidden Planet. Is it the one located opposite of Tai Sun? I know there is a shop selling scary dolls. A white girl doll with long black hair; like those japanese ghost stories. Eerie..

Source for clubbing : Gatecrasher and Kingdom (if it is still exist)

However be warned that clubbing in sheffield is AIN'T the same as what you see in KL. . Just imagine, you are dancing to the tunes of Bon Jovi or Michael Jackson

3 months is short, man. I can't get enough of it even I stayed there for 2 years. It is so peaceful 'cept for at night where drunkards shouting and cursing 'Fook you'

This post has been edited by goliath: Jul 3 2006, 08:46 AM

not forgetting the occasional riot when the local team loses. or ENGLAND. yesterday was pretty scary. lotsa drunks on the streets. anti riot police with dogs, police car/van everywhere. and the best part, a helicopter hovering over sheffield watching the streets like big brother.

Yeah, ASDA is quite far. Budgens is near to my place I stayed which is Wilkinson street.


Actually I studied in Stafford and after graduation I moved to a friend's place in Sheffield. I work partime there before I came back home.

Once, there's riot at the park opposite Budgens (year 2005). Protesting against the government for something. Not sure what it is. At times, police will have horse riders too.

I stayed in Gell St.. An apartment opposite Wilkinson St. Stuffs in Budgens are quite pricy too. The funny thing is they are selling pack of 6 eggs for 85 pence while pack of 12 eggs for £1.60

This post has been edited by goliath: Jul 2 2006, 05:10 PM

The fans are too extreme

Even in normal EPL, some of the train schedules were postponed.

True lol.

For toiletries (is this the correct spelling ), head to The Moor (yes.. again..!!). Look for Body Care (or something like that) . Cheap stuff over there. Or maybe you could buy from Boots too. Boots is something like Watson or Guardian in Malaysia. Therefore, please bring minimal toiletries by all means. They take up space as well as weight.

1. Print all the past year papers for all subjects eventhough it costs 10p per page. Why? because lecturers LOVE to repeat questions, they have used the same method for many years and see no reason to change it.

2. They don't care at all what you do as a student, you want to hand in coursework or don't it's up to you. If possible write good english.

3. You WILL meet absolutely horrible lecturers or tutors or project supervisors. There will be lecturers who will teach like they don't care if you pass or fail and lecturers who give their exams scripts to PHd students to mark which they aren't supposed to.Don't be suprised if you get an unexpected poor mark and then expect the lecturer to entertain you they might just brush you off.

4. Try not to be late for class as some lecturers might tick you off if you get in late, it depends a lot on your lecturer, some really don't mind.

5. Expect to be the receiving end of racist comments or calls. Just WALK AWAY, even if they are saying terrible things about your GF or BF, just walk away.

6. ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE it will be the best thing ever to happen in your life. Don't let petty things get you down, if you feel lonely or homesick do call home.

Do's

1.bring your mini rice cooker along if rice is the main reason you're still alive until now...

2.smuggle your pir*ted stuff like ps2 or pc games or software coz evrythings there are original stuff with of course 'original' prices...careful tho esp during the checks in the airport...but all ppl i know(that includes me) escaped unscathed

3.check out ebay.co.uk for online shopping.i know most malaysians arent familiar with online shopping but once u get the taste of it,u`ll find it hard to resist bidding for an item you like,or in my frens case,bidding just for the sake of it.

4.cross the roads without looking left or right beforehand coz the britons will politely stop their cars for you(slightly exaggerated but hopefully ur bright enuff to get my point)and warning-this tips as not been tried on London Underground trains yet..if u wish to do so,do at your own risk

5.save money and go to europe

6.shut the window if your british fren asked you to 'shoot' the window

7.check out ARGOS.

Donts

1.shoot the window if your british fren asked you to shoot the window

1. If ya wanna save money on printing, get a cheap printer (from here or there). I bought a portable printer which seves me well.
2. Agree
3. Yes. Your examination papers are most likely to be marked by PHd student. However the horrible lecturer n etc., just a small fraction of it. But do bear in mind that there are lecturers from other countries. So you have to get used to their English accent.
4. Yeap. I got one lecturer who locks the door when the lecture commences.
5. Yes. Sometimes you will experience this.
6. To call back home, you can use Skype. Else, try Telco Asia (one of the cheapest calling cards. If you need the website to purchase calling card, pm me.)

1. Very true.
2. You can get good deals in UK game shop. I bought my Warcraft 3 + TFT for £30 or less
3. It is an ADDICTION!! Trust me..
4. Hardly acceptable in Sheffield especially trams passing by.
5. Agree
6. WTF is this??!! 'shoot' what??!!
7. Argos is an electrical appliances store. You select what you want from the list, write the code down, and pay. They will give you a ticket and you have wait they call you to collect your stuff. Fun way to buy stuff.

2. I love their method of selling games. Since they have 'no piracy' most of the game shops offer refurbished consoles and pre-owned games. Pre-owned games is quite cheap compared to new. Both are same so why spend more ?

7. I prefer Dixons than Argos esspecially when they make stock clearance you can get almost 60% discount. The salesperson are friendly too.

Yeap. I bought Worms : Armageddon for only £3.99 . Original but pre-owned. Best of all, you can return if you are not satisfied with the game or anything else. But again, please don't be an idi*t exploiting all these privileges. Dixons are good. There are alot of electronic gadgets in there. Argos is more too bigger stuffs like fan, tables, etc. I bought a fan from Argos because it is blardy hot during summer.

Another thing, for coffee lovers, there are Starbucks (behind West St.), Costa (in the city) and Utopia (in front of Budgens). My favourite is Utopia because I could sit inside OR outside and smoke . Starbucks are infested with asians

Thanx to those who provided me with useful tips and advice

Btw, I know Sheffield is a pretty quiet place.....very peaceful etc, so would u say it's.....boring? My cousin sis painted me a picture and from what I gather, it's full of hills and lots of sheep.

This post has been edited by Silent_scream: Jul 3 2006, 11:04 AM

Sheep?? I guess that would be outside of Sheffield . But, it is indeed peaceful place. I would not say it is boring because it is city campus. Provided you are staying in Halifax Halls, then you have to walk quite far to the city. Where are you staying?

Btw, Sheffield is near to Peak District. Peak District is a tourist place with hills and cottage farms etc.

This post has been edited by goliath: Jul 3 2006, 11:25 AM

All towns in the UK are boring except london or places where there are amusement parks. Oh and do visit Alton Towers, the rides there are really fun.

haha... yup... remember to buy a large hard disk and fill it up with all anime, drama or movie before u go... those will be ur entertainment... while u are in UK, malaysian frens are very good in downloading dramas and movies using torrent... get those from them... hehe... do u drink beers? if no, learn to drink cause it's cheap there... Don't forget to TRAVEL

just remembered another thing:

there'll be a time when u find urself holding a patched up british pound note using selotape, or notes with scribblings on it. those are still valid money. dont throw it away. in malaysia, conteng sikit terus kedai tak terima. here, even if it's torn in two, just patch it up, and u can use it.

if u're not confident, u can exchange it at any banks.

it's not that their notes are high-quality. it's the mentality. ringgit note is high-quality also. but kedai would only accept "mint" condition notes

The English, when it comes to speaking English:

Bird = chick, babe, girl... not your d***. So when someone asks you, "Where's your bird?", don't point at your trousers.

Pants = underwear (both male and female underwear).

Peckish = slightly hungry.

Chips = french fries.

Crisps = potato chips (such as Pringles).

That's all I can think of right now. Hopefully someone will continue the list if they have more to add.

Also, be warned that until you get used to white people, it will be quite hard for you to tell the difference between a teenager and a young adult (I know it was for me anyways). Young girls love to sneak into clubs. If you're unsure of how old they are, just walk away. Don't end up sleeping with a teen, otherwise the next bed you'll be sleeping in might be behind bars.

Furthermore, don't be offended when cashiers over there take a highlighter and scribble on your cash. It's their way to check the authenticity of the note. And they don't really like £50 note. They will stare at you when you present £50 to them . So, if you have any of those, bank in and withdraw in smaller amount. Try to bring £5 or £10. I think I only bring £15 when I go out. It is sufficient to last for about 2-3 days. I'll bring more if I visit pubs.

Love = friend.

It is South Yorkshire's the 'Word' . Don't be akward because it is their way to be polite. E.g. "Thank you, love.", "How can I help you, love?", The total will be £3.99, love"

Yeap. Some look really mature but their age gave them away. Their physical could be as old as 23+ but their age is only 18~19 years old.

talking about gaming, in london, there's this shop in tottenham court road where i used to buy pre-owned games. after i'm done, i sell it back to them. but they dont have that kinda shop here in sheffield (either that, or i havent found one). kinda like rent-a-book principle.

me , but in this year's intake. study civil engineering. what course are u studying? and HSBC bank at birmingham sucks? cause i plan to apply soon . and i'm blur about the fee payment of the university especially when pays in term.

This post has been edited by kelvinbongcn: Jul 4 2006, 02:14 PM

Hmmm...the last time I checked, I was a girl. Haha, so yeah, wouldn't be needing those tips

1. For my university, they never take exactly the same past year paper questions but they just have similar ones only. I'm doing Computer Science and I have 500 pages allowance per term. hehe

2. Well that's true but if you're doing Engineering or Science related subjects, they want to see facts because my English is not that good but I manage to get 70++ for assignments bcuz they see how well I understand the question and do the assignment.

3. That's true. Whatever it is, if you get worst lecturer, good luck in studying that yourself.

4. I'm not sure about that. MAny students nowadays always turn out late in class. I do that sometimes too hehe.. For the first few weeks, everyone is punctual but after that everyone went missing but you can't control them. There are 100++ students in a lecture theatre. What can you do? You can't lock the door because students have rights to enter the theatre room whenever they want. Students are actually paying to study in uni so lecturers sometimes cannot do anything also. Usually lecturers do not care much!

5. These usually apply to those black ppl. They like to say 'ni hao ma' for chinese want. Quite irritating but true, just walk away whatever ppl say.

6. I do get lonely sometimes. But if you really coming to UK to study, you gotta be lonely!! I mean even though you've friends, there'll be times you'll be lonely as well.

1. Well you can cook using saucepan want. Well, if you depend on rice only, then bring one with you.

2. Oooh.. luckily I'm not really big fan of ps2. However, I do know they have cheap Game dvds. I bought LOTR special edition extended DVD for just £24.00 and it cost around RM300++ in Malaysia.
Look out for winter or summer sale. They really sell cheap stuffs!!

3. yeah nice!!! lots of online UK websites are usually good cause they have free delivery!!!

4. haha, you gotta be careful sometimes too.

5. True also!!! But try to visit the whole UK if possible. Im sure Interenational office offers daytrips.

6. Well not sure what this means!

7. Well I bought some of my stuffs from ARGOS such as kitchen utensils.
However, for cheap cheap stuffs, you can go to 99pence or poundland where you can get tupperwares, cups and other things you need while you're in UK.


Hey there Kelvin. I'm doing Computer Science gonna be final year this year.
When they said ' pay in term ' means you pay every term. There's gonna be a date where your account will be credited.
You've to set up a direct debit with the bank when you come here.
No worries, if you're confuse with this, you can ask around when you come to UK!!

LAST TIPS: NEVER BE SHY TO ASK FOR HELP!!! Eventhough they speak fast, as long as you speak SLOW, LOUD and CLEAR, I'm sure they are willing to help you!!

If you drink, drink less.

If you smoke, smoke less.

If you do neither, now's not the time to start.

Ignore everything above if you're
-Loaded
-Don't care when you die
-But mostly if you're loaded and can afford the habits.

cheers

EDIT:
-ignore that. it's cold and you need a drink
-Sheffield's in Yorkshire I remember and that whole damned place is peppered with different accents and slangs.
-pissed means drunk/wasted. it'll save you the confusion i got.
-catch concerts there. the uk is a more fertile ground for musical acts than malaysia.
-Europe

This post has been edited by minority: Jul 5 2006, 12:42 AM

So expensive? I bought the extended trilogy in january 2005 for £45 only

You misunderstand me.. I bought the extended trilogy DVD for £24 which is around RM160.
But when I see in Malaysia, they are selling the same thing for RM300++

You bought £45 eh? That's expensive!!

Ah okay wait I misunderstood. Sorry, I shouldn't post replies when I'm too sleepy; I thought you were saying you paid the 24 quid for each of the three LOTR extended versions. LOL sorry.

Well during that time, almost everywhere the LOTR special extended DVD trilogy boxset (12 DVDs to watch, woooot!) was being sold for 60 quid (it got released december 2004), so 45 quid was literally a steal! Of course now after a year and a half, the prices would have dropped some!

This post has been edited by elb: Jul 5 2006, 09:02 PM

I think only one video shop that has £24 though.. Most shops like hmv, amazon or virgin are selling £40++ still.
I bought it from musiczone.
That's really cheap!!

just a question,which would be the mobile phone provider in London in terms of deals?

^ Vodafone, T-Mobile, O2 and 3G. These are the main ones. However, I couldn't say which one is good because each year, they will offer different type of deals. For example, I used T-Mobile when I first got there (because they offered Samsung E700 first). After my T-Mobile contract ended, I switched to O2 (for better deal). So, I for one, don't really stick to one telco provider. I go for the best rates and best package that I need. One more thing, UK telco providers allow you to bring your hp number along to another telco brand (if you have the thought of changing). Practically, it save the hassle of telling everybody your new hp number. That's what I like the most.

Note: By all means, try to avoid 3G (the brand) even though they offer good packages. Their coverage is quite bad because they are still new in the market.

This post has been edited by goliath: Jul 6 2006, 01:19 PM

That's 3 network by Hutchison. Yeah I bought their 3g prepaid package lol. The phone is damn cheap. For contract phones I reccomend Vodafone since they always have latest product offering.

here's something msia still doesnt have: good phone deals. here in the UK, u dont buy phones. u buy the package. every now and then, mobile companies will offer u excellent packages which includes hundreds of free minutes, text & video messages and FREE mobile phone for about GBP 15++ a month.

free mobile phone.

u dont buy em. the contract is a year. u just pay for the free minutes/messages. and after a year, they'll offer a better package with newer phone, and u keep the old phone. sell it if u want. i gave it to my sister back in msia.

it's a good wedding present/hantaran too! just spend GBP15 a month, and u'll get a RM2500 worth of mobile phone to show off to ur wife-to-be's families. that's what i'm doing right now

^ Yeap. That's the thing that I like the most. Each year, you'll get new FREE phone. If you want to have the latest, you might have to pay a little bit more. Else, you'll get a nice decent phone.

I did the same thing as you last time. Subscribed a line, pay till I go back Malaysia, and give my phone to my sister because I am going to get a new one when I get back there .

Another note, I was told that if you (a student) purchase an Apple laptop there, you'll get an iPod for free. I'm not sure it applies right now or not.

This post has been edited by goliath: Jul 6 2006, 03:53 PM

Wah, tat's pretty cool. And my cousin sis told me they offer good phones, too

Anyhow, not many ppl answered the few questions in my 1st post. Do help me out

And one more thing, how much is a haircut there? I know "it depends", but agak-agak?

Well, you're a girl, so haircuts are gonna cost you. I think 20 quid is the going average now. If you're studying in London, I think you can get it done in Chinatown for a tenner.

actually if we buy the notebook at Malaysia and bring to UK, will it cause any problem. especially the voltage... will UK be the same as malaysia?

Note:
If you wear spectacles, remember to bring an extra pair along. To get a pair over there will cost you a bomb. Not only that, they require you to do eye test with their specialist first (which cost a lot too).

Well, I think most of forummers mentioned about the way lecturers teach and how lectures are conducted.

Average students per lecture : 150 ~ 200 students

Lecturer explains while you are copying their notes. Some lecturers will distribute their notes before the lecture commence. Some will tell you where to download so that you could print it out before attending their lectures. A significant difference between lecturers over there and here, that is they don't spoon feed. They don't tell you what to study for exam. They would just tell you which topic is not in the exams (but most likely all that you studied will be in the exams). IF you don't understand anything, please don't hesitate to ask even though it is a stupid question. They are very helpful and friendly.

And as I said earlier (I think), some of the lecturers are foreigners. Like mine, I got a lecturer from China and one from Korea. So, you might find it hard to catch what they are trying to say. But no worries, you will understand within 2 weeks or so.

I did engineering in Sheffield. 100% based on exams every semester. 20 to 30 credits are denoted to labs and reports every semester. How Malaysians cope? Hhhmm... I guess it is easy to cope up. But it all depends on you.

A haircut in Sheffield will cost around £20 or more for ladies. Mens could go to the barber located at West Street. Cost around £8 to £10. They might give you discount so, show your student card if it applies to student.

No problem at all. The voltage regulation is the same as Malaysia.

This post has been edited by goliath: Jul 9 2006, 12:36 AM

is there any way i can go to sheffield ( or wherever place that provide good engineering course)? i mean through wat college and wat programme? now i'm still a diploma.. gonna plan my future very soon enough...

hope i can go to study at uk but the chances nearly impossible as my family is not rich enough to send me there + i have 6 siblingls...

at 1st i never thought of going oversea but suddenly feel that it's going to be a very good experience as every forumer gives a very good response..
somebody help me!!!!! guide me to UK!!!!!!

Engineering sure must be popular in Sheffield...

yeahs4.1, to apply to UK universities, go thru UCAS. I think u shud create a new thread and I'm sure many ppl will be helpful.

the route i'm taking now is inti college --> diploma in civil engineering 2+2 --> to UK's universities --> i choose U of Birmingham --> total cost for another two years BEng (tution +living cost) is RM 220K (this cost is not included your working income in UK and scholarship).
the route i'm taking has more choices . i can apply through a lot of universities include AUS universities also. currently i spot the cheapest offer is from U of Plymouth which is about 180K. if u got work that will help u alot also.
but one thing is very "Ma Fan" that is the UK Visa application. this means u need to show them u have this amount RM220K if u want to study in Birmingham. i.e from your mother, father saving, OD, fix-D and so on. so this u need to plan earlier. birmingham offer scholarship for international student also which is worth total about 3000 each year. subject to your performance .

This post has been edited by kelvinbongcn: Jul 9 2006, 10:30 AM

but now i'm taking electronic engineering.. is this course available there?

inti have 3+1 programme right? wat is the cost?

after i graduate there, can i work there?

Yup, some of my friends also take E&E. INTI has two types, one is 2+2. another one is 2+1. for the first route u have more choices. more UK and australia universities u can apply to include the famous one. but for the second one u only can apply to three universities in UK if i'm not mistaken. that u have to check with inti for the degree program. for my 2+2, two years is about 18K~19k. for 3+1 one i'm not sure

working, i heard most of my senior said so far so good. easier to find compare to other country. but some say different word . so need experience people to tell us

This post has been edited by kelvinbongcn: Jul 9 2006, 02:27 PM

18k ~ 19K ?
cost for the 1st 2 years in malaysia ?
if i take 3+1 degree programme, how much it's gonna cost me at the oversea? ( tuituion fees,visa, cost of living and everything)

Yeah. But the average per lectures will vary because some are not from engineering course. For example, one of my subject consists of E&E, Mobile Comm. and Aerospace students (if I'm not mistaken). So, will sum up to hundreds of students per lecture. I heard that there are at least 350~400 students in Law lectures . Could be more too.

I think that one is called bursary. Some of universities offer that to attract more student to study in their university.

Yes. I agree on this. Immigration authorities are quite strict on those who are first time in UK. They worried that some are there to work instead of study. Therefore, you need to show the amount of money you have when you are at Immigration department. And not to forget the accomodation contract too.

Note : I've seen Immigration authorities hold up a student because he did not produce sufficient evidences to show that he is there for study purposes. Or perhaps, Immigration department is not convinced that he is there to further his studies. Not only that, Immigration officers facing difficulties in conversation with him. Probably, he can't really speak English . In the end, they (the autorities) decided to hold him up and interrogate him further. I'm not sure what happen to him after that.

Yes, you can. But chances of landing a job (Electronic Engineer) there is quite slim provided you have a darn good results. It is down to hard work.

1 year tuition fees = £11,000 (or less. It varies on where you are studying)
Accomodation = £3,000 (reasonable place includes electricity and gas bills)
Food = £2,500 (also depends what you eat, where you eat. If you cook, it is cheaper)

The cost above is rough estimation. Could go more or less.


This post has been edited by goliath: Jul 9 2006, 04:05 PM

how if i work there to support myself? how much cost that i can cover by myself?
means that my family jz need to pay for the tuition fees only?

Science and engineering graduates are allowed to stay back a year to do an internship or whatever. However, once the one year is up, you MUST leave the country unless a company sponsors your work permit.

No, it is not easy to get a job in the UK. In order to get a work permit, your employer must submit evidence that you are the only one suitable for the job, you are the only one qualified for the job. Mind you, it is not an easy process. Why?

Firstly, you're an international which means there mustn't be a local or an EU citizen suitable for the job in order for you to be hired. You can be sure that there will be locals and EU citizens who are exactly like you or better than you. So why you?
Secondly, you're not the only international student in let's say Sheffield. There are lots of international students who are intellectually your equal and there are many who are smarter than you too. So why you?
Thirdly, Sheffield is a good university, but when we consider other universities, in the same league as Sheffield and a league above Sheffield, you sure get one darn big group of capable internationals, locals and EU citizens. So why you?

Like it or not, some companies are prestige conscious and only go for famous universities. In the UK, the famous ones are Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial, LSE, UCL, King's and a few more. If you're not from one of the above, you will find it hard to make it into the shortlist.



It won't hurt you if you display some resourcefulness. Don't you know that there is something called 'the homepage of the university'?

As a guide, expect fees to be roughly GBP11k-9k per year for an engineering degree at charter universities. Living cost, GBP500-600 a month outside London. To be safe, have at least RM120k-100k per year.

This post has been edited by feynman: Jul 9 2006, 06:44 PM

part time......You can only work 20 hours a week during term time. However, it is unlikely that you're able to work 20 hours a week. Don't you need to study? Don't you need to attend classes? Your classes start at 9 and ends at 5 or the earliest 3, do you go straight to work after that? No assignments? No projects? Weekends? Are you going to work for the whole day, don't need to clean your room? cook? study? Won't you be tired since your weekdays last from 9am to 9pm?
You should be proud of yourself if you can complete 10 hours.

I think the minimum pay per hour is GBP7 or so.

This post has been edited by feynman: Jul 9 2006, 04:52 PM

thx dude...

ya this only for the tuition fees not include living cost. recently i not sure the tuition fee have any change or not u can check from them. Btw, where are u studying now?

tarc.. 2nd year diploma in electronic engineering... gonna change to other college/uni after finishing this course...

so, any recommendations?

Cheh...when I log on and saw so many replies, I tot there were more tips and stuff...tengok-tengok, doesn't apply to me.

yeahs4.1, tumpang thread ka? I think it would be better if u created a new thread with the appropriate title so more ppl can help u out.



This post has been edited by Silent_scream: Jul 10 2006, 10:26 AM